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May 11, 2011

Syrian Army Shells Civilians, Obama Administration Might Slowly Ratchet Up Rhetoric
— DrewM

Remember when we started a war because we were afraid Gadaffi might slaughter civilians? Well, what do we do when the Syrians actually do it?

The Syrian army shelled residential areas in the country's third-largest city Wednesday, sending people fleeing for cover in a sharp escalation in the government's attempts to crush a popular revolt against President Bashar Assad's autocratic rule, according to activists and witnesses.
Heavy tank- and gunfire rocked at least three residential neighborhoods in the besieged city of Homs, which has seen some of the largest anti-government demonstrations during the seven-week-long uprising.
"There were loud explosions and gunfire from automatic rifles throughout the night and until this morning," a resident told The Associated Press by telephone, asking that his name not be used for fear of government reprisals. "The area is totally besieged. We are being shelled."
More than 750 people have been killed in a crackdown on the unrest and thousands of Syrians have been detained, with about 9,000 still in custody, said Ammar Qurabi, who heads the National Organization for Human Rights in Syria.

But fear not! Bill Richardson says some talk might be on the way!

Bill Richardson expects Obama admin to slowly ratchet up rhetoric against Syria but slowness due to lack of Mideast allies being anti-Assad

Well, I'm sure that has the Syrians shaking in their boots!

I'm not saying that a military campaign against Syria would be a great or even good idea at this point but it shows the fecklessness of the Obama administration. If you're going to talk about protecting civilians in Libya, why not Syria? Everything Obama said about Libya applies to Syria....

In the face of the world's condemnation, Gadhafi chose to escalate his attacks, launching a military campaign against the Libyan people. Innocent people were targeted for killing. Hospitals and ambulances were attacked. Journalists were arrested, sexually assaulted, and killed. Supplies of food and fuel were choked off. Water for hundreds of thousands of people in Misurata was shut off. Cities and towns were shelled, mosques were destroyed, and apartment buildings reduced to rubble. Military jets and helicopter gunships were unleashed upon people who had no means to defend themselves against assaults from the air.
Confronted by this brutal repression and a looming humanitarian crisis, I ordered warships into the Mediterranean. European allies declared their willingness to commit resources to stop the killing. The Libyan opposition and the Arab League appealed to the world to save lives in Libya. And so at my direction, America led an effort with our allies at the United Nations Security Council to pass a historic resolution that authorized a no-fly zone to stop the regime's attacks from the air, and further authorized all necessary measures to protect the Libyan people.
Ten days ago, having tried to end the violence without using force, the international community offered Gadhafi a final chance to stop his campaign of killing, or face the consequences. Rather than stand down, his forces continued their advance, bearing down on the city of Benghazi, home to nearly 700,000 men, women and children who sought their freedom from fear.
At this point, the United States and the world faced a choice. Gadhafi declared he would show "no mercy" to his own people. He compared them to rats, and threatened to go door to door to inflict punishment. In the past, we have seen him hang civilians in the streets, and kill over a thousand people in a single day. Now we saw regime forces on the outskirts of the city. We knew that if we wanted Â— if we waited one more day, Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.
It was not in our national interest to let that happen. I refused to let that happen. And so nine days ago, after consulting the bipartisan leadership of Congress, I authorized military action to stop the killing and enforce U.N. Security Council Resolution 1973.

Actually, there are two big differences between Libya and Syria.

The first is we have a far greater interest in seeing regime change in Syria than we ever did in Libya. Syria hosts and supports terrorists groups, has nuclear ambitions and is one of Iran's most important allies. Undoing that is worth the risk of instability that would follow.

Second, as Richardson points out above, there's no international interest in doing anything about Syria. That puts the lie to the idea that Obama created some great international coalition in Libya. He followed Sarkozy and Cameron into Libya and either can't get them to do anything about Syria or he's not really even trying.

Where's this great leadership? Where's the Obama charm that would get other countries to follow us? Syrians dying for their freedom don't even get a speech, just a paper statement a week after business hours on Fridays? "Leading from behind" looks not so much like leadership but a craven attempt to avoid responsibility at all costs.

I admit that just because we can't do everything, doesn't mean we should do nothing. We can't invade Iran or North Korea but that didn't mean we had to take a pass on Iraq. It's precisely because you have to pick your battles carefully that you can't make sweeping pronunciations like a lot of liberals did about some supposed "Responsibility to Protect" and you damn well better be sure when you do play the war card, it's for a vital interest.

Obama simply fails at all of this.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:39 AM | Comments (132)
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Arab Spring!

Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2011 06:44 AM (gDNQt)

2 Bill Richardson expects Obama admin to slowly ratchet up rhetoric against Syria but slowness due to lack of Mideast allies being anti-Assad.

I'm sure he will followup with a strongly worded letter to the U.N.

Posted by: Vic at May 11, 2011 06:44 AM (M9Ie6)

3 You're expecting consistency?

Posted by: long toss at May 11, 2011 06:44 AM (PXe0J)

4 Obama has no overarching world view to guide his actions. All he thinks are his squishy thoughts about social justice and the inequity in the world perpetuated by American hegemony.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 11, 2011 06:44 AM (LH6ir)

5 Oh, and getting reelected. That's always on his mind.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 11, 2011 06:45 AM (LH6ir)

6 Obama believes in kindness to enemies and severity to friends. And if you kinda did what we want once, we kinda launch a few missiles at you.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 11, 2011 06:45 AM (FkKjr)

7 Posted by: garrett at May 11, 2011 10:44 AM (gDNQt)

The destruction of the Egyptian Copts has already begun. Who's next?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 11, 2011 06:46 AM (LH6ir)

We don't have time for this silliness.

Amnesty for illegals is what's for dinner. Oh, and hosting rappers at the WH who compose lyrics honoring a cop killer.

Posted by: long toss at May 11, 2011 06:49 AM (PXe0J)

This blog isn't helping!

It's bad enough innocent people are being killed in Syria -- now you're encouraging the White House to condemn them, too?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 11, 2011 06:50 AM (Rq1/g)

10 There's no way the JEF does anything detrimental to the chinless opthamologist. He's concentrating on mooooooooooooslim outreach to the fucking palis and their Hamas buds. Read Farid Ghadri's blog if you want a sane voice coming out of Syria. I'd link it but I don't do tinyurl.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 11, 2011 06:50 AM (wX23+)

11
I'm too intelligent to worry about such trivia.

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 11, 2011 06:52 AM (SBjsJ)

12 Woah. Hold on there. Did I hear someone say that Obama was going to make another speech? STOP THE SHELLING!

/s

Posted by: Bashar Assad at May 11, 2011 06:54 AM (/izg2)

13 Bill Richardson expects Obama admin to slowly ratchet up rhetoric

Kinetic diplomatic message action!

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2011 06:54 AM (fsGgs)

14 While the Baathists certainly are an oily bunch, there aren't enough of them to squeeze to sustain the illusion of an International Humanitarian Energy Policy^Â©.

Plus, the Obama Administration is all about reprimanding the Jews.

Posted by: Fritz at May 11, 2011 06:54 AM (GwPRU)

15 But Obama got Osama, as the doodahs chant says. That is the standard reply for everything the god-king does now.

Economy? Obama got Osama.
Uneployment? Obama got Osama
Oil drilling/gas prices?Obama got Osama
Immigration? Obama got Osama
Debt ceiling? Obama got Osama
Social Security? Obama got Osama
Foreign policy? Obama got Osama
Midewest flooding?Obama got Osama
Texas wildfires?Obama got Osama

Yeah, how's my ass taste America?

Posted by: Marcus at May 11, 2011 06:55 AM (CHrmZ)

16 O/T: What do the numbers 46/29/4 mean to you?

To me, it means we no longer have a free press.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 11, 2011 06:57 AM (GBXon)

17 The first is we have a far greater interest in seeing regime change in Syria than we ever did in Libya.

You're confused. The US has a greater interest in removing Assad than in removing Gaddaffi. Obama has no interest in removing either, which he appears to be accomplishing quite well.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 11, 2011 06:57 AM (ZJ/un)

18 I refused to let that happen.

President Narcissus to the rescue!

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 11, 2011 06:57 AM (fsGgs)

19
To me, it means we no longer have a free press.

It's cute that you think that's new. The press has been fluffing the Democrats for at least 50 years.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 11, 2011 06:58 AM (ZJ/un)

20 Yeah, but don't you see, Obama is awesome and Palin is dumb!

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 06:59 AM (hbKCI)

21 President BamBam gains 10 points in the polls for every guy he caps

Posted by: Cherry π at May 11, 2011 07:02 AM (+sBB4)

Not so much oil in Syria.

Huh.

Posted by: Bat Chain Puller at May 11, 2011 07:03 AM (SCcgT)

23 Hey, stop, over here, looky... Bin Laden is dead! Did you know Barry killed Bin Laden personally? I'll bet Bin Laden wishes he never heard of Obama. Let's talk about important matters. Say, isn't Barry a real war hero for murdering Bin Laden?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 11, 2011 07:04 AM (AZGON)

24 If you don't put Marines in Ajdabiya and then do some CAS it's a fail.

Bambi has no balls

Posted by: Zakn at May 11, 2011 07:04 AM (zyaZ1)

25 Wait. I thought Drew M favored military action in Lybia. Or was that Gabe?

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 07:04 AM (K/USr)

26 Syria knows we don't have enough interest in freedom there to risk direct conflict. They know that we know fucking with them means an all-out ME war. Sometimes the bear gets you. Does this excuse Ebola? Hell no. It convicts hims of being a lying, Cairo-speech weasel.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 07:05 AM (hbKCI)

27 I haven't read all the comments but, has anyone noted that Barry is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure yet?

Posted by: that guy that doesn't read all the comments at May 11, 2011 07:07 AM (GTbGH)

Bill Richardson expects Obama admin to slowly ratchet up rhetoric against Syria but slowness due to lack of Mideast allies being anti-Assad

Please disregard post #9 and clear something up for me: Is Obama pro-Assad or anti-Assad?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 11, 2011 07:07 AM (Rq1/g)

29 60% approval, mother fuckers! 60%!

Posted by: Barry O at May 11, 2011 07:07 AM (yvnG3)

If we weren't flat broke--but we are flat broke, so it doesn't matter--I'd favor regime change in Syria and Labia, too.

Its hard to put military assets in every corner of the globe when the credit card is maxed.

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 07:07 AM (K/USr)

31 Maybe the Present should mock the Syrians. That might help. What ever happened to Libya? Once the Present pulled the birth certificate out of his ass and killed Osama, I haven't heard much about it. Oh, that's right he is focusing on jobs, jobs, jobs down there on the border mocking the Republicans.

Posted by: kansas at May 11, 2011 07:08 AM (mka2b)

32 Hey, never mind Syria, did you know Discovery Channel already has a Killing Bin Laden show? Everyone's watching it. You're not hip and cool if you don't. Must see TV. The second season will be even more awesome, with a huge opening three-hour special in late September 2012. They will rerun it every three days. Did you know Barry killed Bin Laden not with his bare hands but only his steely gaze?

Posted by: George Orwell at May 11, 2011 07:08 AM (AZGON)

33 Barack Obama hates white people because he had the Corps of Engineers blow up (actually blow it up, not imaginary blow it up as in New Orleans) the levee on the Mississippi to flood Missouri farmers and save Cairo, Illinois.

And, when the Mississippi crests at New Orleans and floods it again in a few days, he'll hate black people too.

Posted by: Sphynx at May 11, 2011 07:09 AM (fEmj2)

34 I don't think Nobel Peace Prize means what we thought it meant.
_{Mmmmm Mmmmm Mmmmm, unh unh}

Posted by: ontherocks at May 11, 2011 07:10 AM (HBqDo)

35 Too bad W didn't also take out Syria in 2003.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 07:10 AM (hbKCI)

36 Who's up for a no fly zone? France? England? The Arab coalition? The UN Human Rights Commission?......Oopsie

Posted by: long toss at May 11, 2011 07:10 AM (PXe0J)

We need a good meaningless speech from obama - promising to "cut red tape and add transparency" - and "get tough with Syria."

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at May 11, 2011 07:12 AM (0fzsA)

38 Syrian civilians are a leading cause of Global Climate Disruption.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 07:12 AM (hbKCI)

39 If the Arab Spring started in January that must mean that we are now in the Arab Summer--when its permitted to put artillary on your own people. Can't wait for the Arab fall--disembowling,beheading,stoning,cutting off the right hand and left foot a la the profiteer mohammid (umpah) After all, gotta keep that Alawite thing going on--otherwise its cameltime in Latakia once again.

Posted by: HULUGU at May 11, 2011 07:13 AM (ID1ra)

40 We can solve this. Do alligators like the taste of Syrians? YES WE CAN!

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at May 11, 2011 07:15 AM (JKe0g)

41 Those Syrians are clinging to their religion.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 11, 2011 07:15 AM (+sBB4)

42 I don't care. Obama is awesome!

Posted by: Librul Cock-Gobbler at May 11, 2011 07:15 AM (+xJ/0)

43 You're confused. The US has a greater interest in removing Assad than in removing Gaddaffi. Obama has no interest in removing either, which he appears to be accomplishing quite well.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at May 11, 2011 10:57 AM (ZJ/un)

Absolutely, when the chinless opthamologist is hung by his pencil neck, Lebanon's problems go bye-bye and the pali cocksuckers lose a major enabler.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 11, 2011 07:18 AM (wX23+)

44 Words can be very hurtful, wingnuts. Just look how badly I injured you with my moat zing yesterday.

Posted by: His Eminence at May 11, 2011 07:19 AM (1fanL)

45 And yeah, I kinda noticed the slant long ago, it's just sad to see such a total lack of even trying to maintain the facade now.

The media will be the end of us all.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 11, 2011 07:20 AM (GBXon)

46 A cruise missile attack that decapitates the Syrian military and security forces would move the chess pieces a bit.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 07:20 AM (hbKCI)

47 Not doing anything about the wholesale murder of defenseless civilians?
gutsycall.com.

Posted by: Jimmuy at May 11, 2011 07:20 AM (+xJ/0)

48 Republicans want the Syrian Army to shell civilians. And gas them too. And rape their women with alligators. Or something.

- O

Posted by: Cherry π at May 11, 2011 07:20 AM (+sBB4)

49 Lighten up on President Gutsy. He's getting ready for Rapper Night at the WH.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 07:21 AM (UOM48)

50 The Snow White's favorite dwarf, Sleepy, simply hasn't had enough time yet for a decision. It'll be a month, tops, for his initial reaction.

Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2011 07:21 AM (FcR7P)

51 You're gonna need a bigger Nobel.

Posted by: Chief Brody at May 11, 2011 07:23 AM (HBqDo)

52 Republicans put in these sand traps because they are racists and don't like brown people. Fore!

- O

Posted by: Cherry π at May 11, 2011 07:23 AM (+sBB4)

53 The Snow White's favorite dwarf, Sleepy, simply hasn't had enough time yet for a decision.

It'll be a month, tops, for his initial reaction.

Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2011 11:21 AM (FcR7P)

Quit with the name-calling and grow up.

Posted by: President Dopey at May 11, 2011 07:24 AM (1fanL)

54 Syria? You mean Syriana. It was a great film. You woke me up just for that?

Posted by: Ditherer-in-Chief at May 11, 2011 07:24 AM (FcR7P)

55 Barry needs another sixteen hours to sleep on whether to issue a sternly worded letter to Assad. Plus another round of golf, to loosen up. It's tough being gutsy and stuff.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 07:24 AM (UOM48)

56 Maybe Hillary's Thighs of Justice can bring peace to Syria.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 11, 2011 07:25 AM (hbKCI)

Please disregard post #9 and clear something up for me: Is Obama pro-Assad or anti-Assad?

Posted by: FireHorse at May 11, 2011 11:07 AM

Yes.

Posted by: huerfano at May 11, 2011 07:25 AM (IN2A4)

Quit with the name-calling and grow up.

Posted by: President Dopey at May 11, 2011 11:24 AM (1fanL)

Can't a man just eat his waffle?

Posted by: President Grumpy at May 11, 2011 07:25 AM (FkKjr)

59 Ghadafi cooperated with Dubya in giving up nuclear ambitions, Barry would still have not have the spine to go in without urging from France et al but he wanted to punish Ghadafi for that. OTOH Syria has been a good anti-Israel anti-america regime and will be left alone unless Russia or China decides they have an interest in intervening. Heck even authorizing the OBL strike -- Pakistan had at least pretended to cooperate with Dubya, Barry was happy to give them the finger for it.

Posted by: palerider at May 11, 2011 07:26 AM (ql12X)

60 Quick, someone get President Kinetic Action the Super Assassin on a plane to Syria so he can personally put in some regime change and juice his poll numbers with his lapdog media some more.

Posted by: brak at May 11, 2011 07:26 AM (CJbON)

61 57
Maybe Hillary's Thighs of Justice can bring peace to Syria.

thanks

That, after listening to Beck and crew making vomiting sounds over Meggy Mac's "Getting Naked for Skin Cancer" campaign.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 07:26 AM (UOM48)

62 Which Gutsy Call should I make today? Wangyu Beef or the Eggplant Parmesan for lunch? uhhh.....uhhhh......uhhhhhh......Wangyu Beef it is! That's going to boost my skewed poll numbers even higher baby!

Posted by: Trillionaire-in-chief Barry at May 11, 2011 07:27 AM (tUq+p)

63 Hey, never mind Assad, did you know the teachers' unions and the national associations of librarians have decided to rewrite some of our time-honored children's stories to reflect our modern times and help educate our very young? It's truly wonderful how they care. For example, they have updated "The Little Engine That Could" to "The Good President That Could Kill Bin Laden With His Bare Hands." Other newly freshened stories include "Goldilocks and Obama's Seal Team Six," "Barry Brown and The Six Dwarves with High-Powered Assault Rifles," "Jack Obama and the Pakistani Beanstalk," and "The Princess and the Organically Farmed White House Pea."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 11, 2011 07:27 AM (AZGON)

Sorry, I can't concentrate on anything today, I'm too distracted by Bearded Ben Stiller in the sidebar. I'm going to have nightmares.

Posted by: Lord of the Flies at May 11, 2011 07:28 AM (9BzDU)

65 Words?! Not words!!!

Posted by: The Terrorist Nation at May 11, 2011 07:28 AM (TXKVh)

66 Other newly freshened stories include "Goldilocks and Obama's Seal Team Six," "Barry Brown and The Six Dwarves with High-Powered Assault Rifles," "Jack Obama and the Pakistani Beanstalk," and "The Princess and the Organically Farmed White House Pea."

Posted by: George Orwell at May 11, 2011 11:27 AM (AZGON)

The Lyin' King.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 11, 2011 07:29 AM (1fanL)

67 You can borrow the comfy chair if you like.

Posted by: The Spanish Inquisition at May 11, 2011 07:29 AM (AZGON)

68 Arab Spring is a lot like Irish Spring, it just smells funkier.

Posted by: negentropy at May 11, 2011 07:30 AM (27KAF)

Maybe the Present should mock the Syrians.

What do they want me to do, build a moat around Syria?

Posted by: Prez O at May 11, 2011 07:30 AM (XdlcF)

70 Try to imagine:

The 1943 Merrie Melodies short Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs, directed by Bob Clampett, parodies Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by presenting the story with an all-black cast singing a jazz score.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 11, 2011 07:30 AM (1fanL)

71 I suppose when the Lybia authorization ends in 10 days the President will be able to turn to Syria? Probably not.

Posted by: BigDaddy1964 at May 11, 2011 07:33 AM (nO0Br)

72 Did you hear someone say something?

Posted by: That terrorist at May 11, 2011 07:34 AM (TXKVh)

73 No - I can't hear a thing over all these screaming civilians!

Posted by: That other terrorist at May 11, 2011 07:34 AM (TXKVh)

74 (giggle)

Posted by: That terrorist at May 11, 2011 07:34 AM (TXKVh)

75 (tee-hee-hee)

Posted by: That other terrorist at May 11, 2011 07:34 AM (TXKVh)

76 The 1943 Merrie Melodies short Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs heh... such transgression reminds me of a picture I wish I could find. It was a xerox copy of a very polished and professional piece of line art, clearly done by Disney artists, that featured nearly every Disney character gathered in a magical landscape. All clean and rendered, not sketchy, so people took their time to do it. It featured every single character doing something appalling. Mickey was smoking while shooting up, the Seven Dwarves were buggering each other, someone had his head under Tinkerbell's dress...

Posted by: George Orwell at May 11, 2011 07:34 AM (AZGON)

77 We are bombing Libya for France's oil. Don't kid yourself about the humanitarian bullshit.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 11, 2011 07:35 AM (YCzaP)

78 The 1943 Merrie Melodies short Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs, directed by Bob Clampett, parodies Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs by presenting the story with an all-black cast singing a jazz score. Posted by: FUBAR at May 11, 2011 11:30 AM

I am old enough to actually remember that. It was excellent.

It was racist, though, like Little Black Sambo and Amos and Andy. And republicans.

Posted by: huerfano at May 11, 2011 07:36 AM (IN2A4)

79 Yeah, obama flapped his lips about people rising up, now that they did he leaves them to be slaughtered.

I guess obama lied and people died.

Posted by: Berserker at May 11, 2011 07:38 AM (FMbng)

80 Every action of Obama is predictable if you keep the following maxim in mind:

Support every Foe, oppose every Friend.

We need that on bumper stickers, perhaps contrasted with JFK's original for those Dems too dim to remember the original.

Posted by: John Morris at May 11, 2011 07:40 AM (sCRhB)

81 Let's see if I can approximate Obamalogic:

-Syria is pwned by Iran
-Iran hates the U.S.
-Barry hates our allies

so...I'm guessing...

-Barry will come out with a strongly worded message that urges restraint on the part of the Syrian citizens who are obviously taunting the army and deserve to die.

Does that sound about right?

Posted by: shibumi at May 11, 2011 07:40 AM (OKZrE)

82
"Stop!!!"

or.... I'll say "Stop!!" again

Posted by: Our President at May 11, 2011 07:41 AM (C8hzL)

83 Those "civilians" are watching pr0n. They deserve to die.

Posted by: Ken! at May 11, 2011 07:45 AM (c45xH)

84 I single handedly boom headshotted Bin Laden and fed him to the sharks. What more do you want from me?

Posted by: Obama Bin Golfin at May 11, 2011 07:45 AM (/Mla1)

85 Barry has more important things on his agenda, like traveling to Europe May 23, and another stay at Buckingham Palace (from USA Today):

The White House has officially announced that President Obama's next scheduled foreign trip will be to Europe on May 23-28, with stops in the United Kingdom, France, Ireland and Poland.

Obama's trip to the U.K. is a formal state visit, and he and first lady Michelle Obama will reportedly stay at Buckingham Palace in London.

--------------

Wonder if he'll embarrass us again with more tacky "gifts" to the Queen?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 07:45 AM (UOM48)

86 The next strongly worded speech will be in all caps so be forewarned and tremble in fear of the all caps speech.

Posted by: harleycowboy at May 11, 2011 07:46 AM (wSTfB)

87 For reasons unknown (other than Assad promised to be a reformer) the administration thinks that Syria is the key to ME peach---especially between Israel and the Palestinians. Their whole strategy is to 'flip' Syria, thereby isolating Iran and Lebanon. Slow the arming of Hezbollah, then Israeli peace. Morons. And not in a good way.

Posted by: MJ at May 11, 2011 07:47 AM (BKOsZ)

88 TOTUS quakes in fear of the power of Gutsy Call's words.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 07:47 AM (UOM48)

89 Does that sound about right?

Of course not. Which is why it's a perfect example of Obamalogic...

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 11, 2011 07:49 AM (GBXon)

90 Oh, shit. No sign of Leon and there's trouble in the papers. Hey, can somebody get a big-boy chair and put it in that TV room we were in? Thanks, I want to be ready.

Posted by: President "Gutsy" at May 11, 2011 07:50 AM (FcR7P)

91 Why should we have had any interest in regime change in Libya at all?
Daffy had made and the families accepted restitution for the bombings.
Daffy totally rolled on WMDs after Iraq and as a result we restored diplomatic relations and Libya was removed for the list of countries aiding terrorism.
The protests in Libya were a violent rebellion from the gitgo.
We should never have done shit in Libya. It's the equivalent of a pimp strangling his ho to death AFTER she's coughed up the cash she was hiding and blew him. An asshole like Daffy doesn't hang on for 40 years by being unpopular at home. Any rebellion never had a chance without massive aid and no one ever had any intention of doing that. We learned from Iraq that you can't do regime change on the cheap so why we even attempted it in Libya is beyond me.

Posted by: Rocks at May 11, 2011 07:53 AM (Q1lie)

92 Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 11:04 AM (K/USr)

FWIW- I was in favor of military action during the first part when the rebels were at the gates of Tripoli. I was against it once the rebels were pushed back and had almost no chance of breaking out. As we see, any help we give now is far more complex and involved than it would have been had we done it the first time and not waited 3 weeks.

After that...no, I was opposed to the current operation under UN sanction/NATO control.

Not sure what anyone else here thought.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2011 07:54 AM (sPao2)

Drew

Number Three Clue / Difference for you between Libya and Syria ...

Syria has a new BFF, Mother Russia, who has a shiny new naval base at Tartus. That plus their old BFF Iran means that 'Bongo ain't goin' near ... nahmean ? Noamsayin ?

Russia won't stand for any of that "humanitarian" bolshoi fronted by a weak NATO and their increasingly weak sponsor - Amerikwa - led by the Great Kikuyu Warrior.

We sent a cruise vessel to get Americans outta Egypt.

China sent a missile frigate. Compare and contrast.

Posted by: OhioDude at May 11, 2011 07:54 AM (KwqTw)

94 What do you want me to do? Put alligators in the Mediterranean?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at May 11, 2011 07:54 AM (c45xH)

Remember when we started a war because we were afraid Gadaffi might slaughter civilians? Well, what do we do when the Syrians actually do it?

Diddly squat. The British / French juggernaut is tapped out and only works when the enemy is just across the lake anyway, and Obama ain't never gonna pick up that second Nobel if he starts another war, right?

Posted by: sherlock at May 11, 2011 07:54 AM (TQbuA)

96 Why should we have had any interest in regime change in Libya at all? Who said anything about regime change? Well, I mean, I might have, but it's not on TOTUS anymore. Anyways, have you seen my approval ratings?

Posted by: President Forty Winks at May 11, 2011 07:56 AM (FcR7P)

97 The hell with what Obama is doing, Assad should worry about Bibi.

You know the Israelis have to maintain a 24/7 target lock on the Assad family and assorted henchmen. If their (the Assads) numbers get much worse in the Arab world; Bibi could slap a missile into them with little regard for the backlash.

Posted by: Jean at May 11, 2011 07:57 AM (WkuV6)

98 Why should we have had any interest in regime change in Libya at all?
Posted by: Rocks at May 11, 2011 11:53 AM (Q1lie)

To keep the oil flowing into and the refugees out of southern Europe.

Posted by: huerfano at May 11, 2011 07:59 AM (IN2A4)

99 President Kinetic Action the Super Assassin

Love this. Kinda reminds me of Super Elastic Bubble Plastic.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 11, 2011 07:59 AM (XK4nA)

100 Stay the hell out of it. There are 1.4 billion Muslims in the world. Why the hell would anybody think of complaining when they start killing each other off? When I read the Muslim death toll the only thing that upsets me about it is the use of the word thousands as opposed to millions. Good fucking grief, butt out.

Posted by: ThePaganTemple at May 11, 2011 07:59 AM (as9LP)

101 "Russia won't stand for any of that "humanitarian" bolshoi..."

Posted by: OhioDude at May 11, 2011 11:54 AM (KwqTw)

Russia is a paper tiger, or maybe a rusted bear. Their military is all show and no go. Their maintenance since the fall of the USSR has been nonexistent, and their development of new weapons systems has been a similar farce. They are very good at bluster and bullying, but they are not a legitimate threat.

Of course that doesn't matter when the current occupant of the oval office is a blustering, bullying cocksucker.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 11, 2011 08:00 AM (LH6ir)

102 29 60% approval, mother fuckers! 60%!

The internals tell the tale. 46/29/4, really?!?

_{/I know it's a sock.}

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 11, 2011 08:00 AM (P+zzG)

103 Look you wingnuts, you are lucky I'm not shelling Texas! You know the problem with Texas? It's full of Republicans.

Now someone hand me my 9 iron.

Posted by: Barky, Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers at May 11, 2011 08:02 AM (ENKCw)

104 I was first wif "Leading fwom Behind"

Posted by: Bawney Fwank at May 11, 2011 08:03 AM (/FqjZ)

105 Fuck! I just got stung on the tit! Motherfucker. I question the timing.

Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 08:05 AM (penCf)

106 Ace:

Re. Meggie Mac's new PSA, you might wanna run an intervention on your buddy Allah before he bleeds himself out, IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Just.Saying at May 11, 2011 08:05 AM (gQLr2)

107 "" Kinda reminds me of Super Elastic Bubble Plastic.""

Wow thats a blast from the past.

Posted by: Berserker at May 11, 2011 08:06 AM (FMbng)

108 See, if we had freaking alligators in our moat, this never would have happened!

Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 08:06 AM (penCf)

109 Posted by: momma at May 11, 2011 12:05 PM (penCf)

It's Bush's fault.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 11, 2011 08:08 AM (LH6ir)

110 106 Fuck! I just got stung on the tit! Motherfucker. I question the timing.

You weren't doing a nekkid PSA for skin cancer, were you?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 08:09 AM (UOM48)

111

93, Drew

I'm opposed. Not on phony legal or moral grounds. We're broke. Until that changes (not likely in my lifetime) I'm going to be opposed to military efforts other than defending the homeland and borders.

The 3 ongoing ME wars, talk of action in Syria, the continuing presence in Korea--it all seems like parallel universe stuff to me now. You know, the old USA with a healthy, vibrant economy. The reality is, we have a European economy now, but in foreign affairs, we are still livin large, as if nothing has changed.

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 08:10 AM (K/USr)

112 I really want one of Rush's new shirts!

Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 08:10 AM (penCf)

113 ZOMG!1! Daddy, like, those meanie conservatives are like making fun of me again and hating on young republicans, - just because they're jealous of my breasts and hate tattoos and bikers. Haters.

Posted by: Titsie McCain at May 11, 2011 08:10 AM (GwPRU)

114 You weren't doing a nekkid PSA for skin cancer, were you?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 12:09 PM (UOM4

Nope I was in my yard on Elm Street . . . .

Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 08:11 AM (penCf)

115 OT: House panel approves Libya measure

"The House Armed Services Committee on Wednesday approved a resolution directing the Pentagon to provide information about consultations with Congress before President Barack Obama launched airstrikes against Libya.

The resolution, approved without dissent, is a sign that lawmakers have not let go of concerns that they were not adequately notified when Obama ordered U.S. military forces into action on March 19. It now goes to the full House for a vote."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 11, 2011 08:11 AM (P+zzG)

116 115 You weren't doing a nekkid PSA for skin cancer, were you?

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 12:09 PM (UOM4

Nope I was in my yard on Elm Street . . . .

lol

Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 11, 2011 08:12 AM (UOM48)

117 See, if we had freaking alligators in our moat, this never would have happened! Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 12:06 PM (penCf) Say what?

Posted by: Hamat Gader at May 11, 2011 08:13 AM (7wmOW)

118 106--pix or it didn't happen

Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 08:13 AM (K/USr)

119 Here's the new Rush shirt:

"Obama Killed Osama" emblazoned on front. Obama target shots of "10 Somali Pirates, 3 Khadafy Grandkids, 2 Osama Wives, The U.S. Economy And Got A Peace Prize For Doing It" emblazoned on back. Club Gitmo logo on left sleeve

Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 08:14 AM (penCf)

120 See, if we had freaking alligators in our moat, this never would have happened!
Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 12:06 PM (penCf)

Say what?

Posted by: Hamat Gader at May 11, 2011 12:13 PM (7wmOW)

Obama made fun of moats manned by alligators but if we had some in there, my titty wouldn't have been attack by a bee. It is all about security (for my boobehs) and BO just doesn't get it.

Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 08:15 AM (penCf)

121 Posted by: momma - my titty was stung by a bee at May 11, 2011 12:15 PM (penCf) I guess you never visited me ha?

Posted by: Hamat Gader at May 11, 2011 08:17 AM (7wmOW)

122 87 The next strongly worded speech will be in all caps so be forewarned and tremble in fear of the all caps speech. Personal pronouns will be in ALL CAPS BOLD.

Posted by: Lord of the Flies at May 11, 2011 08:17 AM (9BzDU)

123 Posted by: glowing blue meat at May 11, 2011 12:10 PM (K/USr)

We're going to have to deal with Iran/Syria at some point. Helping topple Assad now by helping the Syrian people (not necessarily with military force) do it may make it easier and cheaper in the long run.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2011 08:18 AM (sPao2)

124 We're going to have to deal with Iran/Syria at some point. Helping topple Assad now by helping the Syrian people (not necessarily with military force) do it may make it easier and cheaper in the long run. Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2011 12:18 PM (sPao2) Maybe? But it really depends on who takes over?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 11, 2011 08:20 AM (7wmOW)

125

No Barry, we can't use Mossad Sharks since you've pissed off the Joos! We'll have to use alligators from the Katrinaites.

Posted by: Hillary to the Rescue at May 11, 2011 08:21 AM (9BzDU)

126 Posted by: nevergiveup at May 11, 2011 12:20 PM (7wmOW)

Someone worse for the US than Assad? Like who?

The danger from chaos in Syria is to Turkey, Lebanon and the Kurds. But everything has potential dangers. Unless you're willing to accept a permanent Iranian outpost in Syria, you're going to have to take some risks.

Nothing is for free.

Posted by: DrewM. at May 11, 2011 08:25 AM (sPao2)

127 92 It's the equivalent of a pimp strangling his ho to death AFTER she's coughed up the cash she was hiding and blew him insisting that a pharmaceutical company fire its CEO after paying the fine and agreeing to penalties.
_______

FIFY

Posted by: Anachronda at May 11, 2011 08:37 AM (NmR1a)

128 Obama won't lift a finger against Syria until the French tell him he can.

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129 106--pix or it didn't happen

*cough*

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