1 New piece on Loughner, Palin, and the media at my blog:

http://www.kronosphere.com/kronology/?p=8

2 If you listen very, very closely you can hear vast numbers of Americans still not calling John Lewis a racial epithet.

How can we live in such a world?  Seriously, between all the non-namecalling and not being able to explain how magnets work, this whole thing should just collapse into the quantum dust from whence it came.

3 OT. I went to the Golden Corral Buffet and they only charged me $5.99. That is the price for the senior sunrise. That little senorita thought I was a senior and I am only 42. I almost had a Boehner  moment.

4 Racist!

And please try to cut down on the violent rhetoric (refudiation!) presented here..  it makes me feel all ooky inside.. Hey! Where's my Colt?

5 Together You Can Bite Me

6 That is the price for the senior sunrise.

The really bad part, Flavius?  That is not, unfortunately, a euphemism.

7 I've been a little amused over the past couple of days where people have been having these rallies about taxes ...you would think they would be saying "thank you."

I'm feeling incited by those words.

8 If you listen very, very closely you can hear vast numbers of Americans still not calling John Lewis a racial epithet.

And "boy." Don't forget -- you can always hear "boy."

9

What a good reminder on MLK Day - John Lewis is now seen as the face of today's 'Civil Rights' movement.

Good job, progs.

10 In related news, Ross Douchehat is a fucking scumbag.

Seriously, have these establishment RINO suckers of cock been living under a rock for the last decade? How did that whole "don't fight back thing" work out for BOOOOSHITLER?

11 Obama gave me $13! I told you he was gonna put gas in my car. Now, pay my motherfucking mortgage.

12 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 17, 2011 11:17 AM (GZITd)

Yeah, that'd be nice, but it won't.  Its why we have to fight them every step of the way until even the 52% even realize that a large portion of the blame for the current state of civilization should be laid at the feet of the MFM.

We have to start fighting the propaganda war, because we're leaving that front unguarded (mostly) while trying to take "the high road."

You know what Audie Murphy called Germans who took the high road?  Good targets.  You know what I'd call Republicans who "take the high (rhetorical) road," (If I were the MFM)? Stupid.

13 Hearing voices is a classic symptom of schizophrenia.

14 We have to eliminate the Tea Party to find out who's in it.

15 ARE YOU NOT RECONCILED?!

16 Sarah Palin told me to say "f**king" on live TV.

17 Sorry, he wasn't a paranoid schizophrenic. Like any loser with ideas and no job, Jared Loughner was an anti-Bush activist.

18 When people were shouting "STOP!" to their representatives regarding Obamacare at town hall meetings across the country, the Speaker of the House engaged in this classic piece of slander with a healthy dose of projection thrown in ... And it wasn't just Pelosi. Yep, let's not forget Harry Reid calling us all "evil mongers": Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, was having second thoughts – or was he? – about the way he had characterized people who are disrupting town halls with "lies, innuendo and rumor," and not letting others speak. They are, he said, "evil-mongers." A day after tossing out the term "evil-mongers" in the closing speech of his annual clean energy conference, Reid was alternating between pride in his coinage and knowing that he probably should be trying to defuse, not escalate, the turmoil erupting at town meetings across the country on health care reform. "It was an original with me. I maybe could have been less descriptive," Reid said. He also said, "I doubt that you’ll hear it from me again." But a few minutes later, he couldn’t resist a sardonic little joke. "I feel I haven’t done anything to embarrass them," Reid said of his children. "Except maybe call somebody an evil-monger." Of course, the piece of excrement was still reelected despite this. Pathetic.

19 The only thing missing from this post is a noose.

20 Posted by: ol_dirty_/b/tard at January 17, 2011 11:25 AM (IoUF1)

Why do I ever click over to the NYT?  Why do I do it?

Every time I think: well, maybe it'll at least be humorously bad... but it's not.  It's just bad.  Or, as Whoopi might say: "bad-bad."

And RD has been an idiot for a long time, so that really didn't surprise me.

The Editorial about how awesome it was for Illinois to raise it's taxes?  That one was pathetic.  I get it that the CBO uses static analysis.  I even sort of get it that Congress does (it's stupid, but when you're doing paper-napkin calculations, it's easier: and heaven forbid a CongressCretin's job be anything but easy).  The NYT with Nobel Prize winning Paul Krugmann?  Really?  How about exercising some of that research ability you're supposed to be good at and see what raising taxes really does to treasury income.  How about that?

21 I will not allow a sucker of the barbed cock of Satan to bite me. They can kiss my butt,high and deep,however.

22 I HAD a dream......

Now it is a nightmare.

23 Yes, let's soften the debate and cut the rhetoric.  And whatever you do, try not to notice the daggers we're holding behind our backs.

24

the Speaker of the House engaged in this classic piece of slander with a healthy dose of projection thrown in:

I don't think there is such a thing as a healthy dose of projection.

Projection ain't healthy at any dosage.

25 Since Douchehat closed his comments in a right hurry, let's revisit the Palin - media marriage he talks about. Here are prominent members of Journolist developing a strategy on how best to attack McCain's likable veep choice.

“Honestly, this pick reeks of desperation,” wrote Michael Cohen of the New America Foundation in the minutes after the news became public. “How can anyone logically argue that Sarah Pallin [sic], a one-term governor of Alaska, is qualified to be President of the United States?”

“Q: Sen. McCain, given Gov. Palin’s paltry experience, how is she qualified to be commander in chief?,” Stein asked hypothetically. “A: Well, she has much experience as the Democratic nominee.”

“What a joke,” added Jeffrey Toobin of the New Yorker. “I always thought that some part of McCain doesnÂ’t want to be president, and this choice proves my point.  Welcome back, Admiral Stockdale.”

“This seems to me like an occasion when the non-official campaign has a big role to play in defining Palin, shaping the terms of the conversation and saying things that the official [Obama] campaign shouldnÂ’t say – very hard-hitting stuff, including some of the things that people have been noting here – scare people about having this woefully inexperienced, no foreign policy/national security/right-wing christia wing-nut a heartbeat away Â…Â… bang away at McCainÂ’s age making this unusually significant Â…. I think people should be replicating some of the not-so-pleasant viral email campaigns that were used against [Obama],” noted Daniel Levy of the Century Foundation.

“Her decision to keep the Down’s baby is going to be a hugely emotional story that appeals to a vast swath of America, I think,” Donmoyer wrote.

Politico reporter Ben Adler, now an editor at Newsweek, replied, “but doesn’t leaving sad baby without its mother while she campaigns weaken that argument? Or will everyone be too afraid to make that point?”

26

10 In related news, Ross Douchehat is a fucking scumbag.

 

She was libeled in connection with a murder!!!  But hey, let's have Sarah turn the cheek.

27

Projection ain't healthy at any dosage.

 

I used to watch projections at the drive-in after my friends let me out of the trunk.

28

If you like the temerity of your Tea Party...

 

29 You bitter, racist, Bible-clinging wingnuts better tone down your violent rhetoric!  Now, excuse me while I deftly give McCain and Palin the finger on national television.

30 And RD has been an idiot for a long time, so that really didn't surprise me.

RCP was more truthful in advertising his headline than TepidAir. I clicked on it knowing full well what I was getting into but still came away shocked at the lengths Douchehat went to blame the victim.

31

--I favor Don Surber's response. Bite me!

What does the crazy VP have to do with this? He's more stupid than nasty.

32 We have to start fighting the propaganda war, because we're leaving that front unguarded (mostly) while trying to take "the high road." You know what Audie Murphy called Germans who took the high road? Good targets. You know what I'd call Republicans who "take the high (rhetorical) road," (If I were the MFM)? Stupid. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at January 17, 2011 11:25 AM Bill Whittle was spot-fucking-on with this in July of 2009: Alinski could see that moral people have to be held to moral standards when immoral people do not. We’d better learn a lesson from this, right quick. Here’s an example of the kind of lesson good and decent people must learn about people like Saul Alinski and his followers: The Battle of Guadalcanal was the first real test of the US Marine Corps in World War II. There was real anger toward the Japanese after Pearl Harbor and the atrocities they had committed in China and to American prisoners at Bataan, but the Marines had not yet dealt with them face to face and still reserved a professional soldier’s decency towards surrendering troops. A Marine recon unit reported seeing Japanese troops flying a white flag on an isolated spit of land near Guadalcanal, and so A Marine named Frank Goettge asked for volunteers to help rescue these surrendering Japanese soldiers. 25 men stepped forward, and when they reached the beach the Marines warily went ashore to help the trapped Japanese. Once they were all within range, the Japanese opened fire with machine guns, and after hours of fighting only one Marine was able to escape. As he swam away he looked over his shoulder, and saw the flashing Samurai swords of the Japanese officers as they hacked at and beheaded the survivors. When reinforcements returned they found that their buddies had been mutilated and dismembered, and any Marine corps tattoos had been hacked off their arms and stuffed into their mouths. The Marines never treated the Japense the same way after that. Alinski and his followers want you to believe that if you fight dirty in response to people fighting dirty with you, then you have lost your morals and in fact your identity. But that’s a lie. We are in a political fight to the death with people who will stop at nothing – and I’m not talking about your average decent Democrat, but rather these Alinski radicals. And if we don’t face the same realization as those Marines on Guadalcanal and give back as brutally as we have taken, then we will lose. Which is what they want. And if we do lose to these kind of tactics, there will be no more decent people left in politics. As of today, we’re one short already.

33 Pick up trucks are racist!

34 And "boy." Don't forget -- you can always hear "boy."

Posted by: Big Lefty Media at January 17, 2011 11:23 AM (cHqVb)

Did someone call "Joy"?

35 related subject... saw on taranto's BOTW an incident of supposed tea party violence. it was a short clip from msnbc of election night in the popaditch-filner election. jim geraghty has longer videos and a different take. http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign- spot/257070/filner-tries-tie-popaditch- supporters-giffords-shooting

36 I think this is why I appreciated Sarah's "un-presidential" you tube response. It resonated so much with me. She was the only one, THE ONLY ONE that has anything close to a national stage to defend not only herself, but ME. I am a conservative-tea party attending-talk radio listening-happily married mom of two. In less than an hour after the shootings, I was accused of murder. Then instead of that ridiculous meme being quickly squashed, it grew and grew and grew into some kind of new tone bullshit where we might have congressmen sitting together at the SOTU because the visual will be a great picture on the front of the NYT. This new tone is now the focus which amounts to a win for the left and the right quietly sat by and let it happen. It's easier to discuss how un-presidential Sarah Palin is.

37 Apparently, Palin's video response successfully humanized her to a small degree. She will be on Hannity tonight, too, so they can't shut her up.

38 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at January 17, 2011 11:43 AM (NITzp)

Exactly.  Bite me, you immoral hypocrites. You will not rule my country.

39 And don't forget: There are large parts of the GOP that agree with the post title.

This is a two-front war . . . .

40 She was the only one, THE ONLY ONE that has anything close to a national stage to defend not only herself, but ME. Posted by: Trish at January 17, 2011 11:51 AM Well, her and Rush. I went all over reading right-of-center blogs last week and was less than impressed with the analysis. But Rush probably had one of his best weeks of analysis in all his time on air, at least since 2001, since I have been listening to him. I didn't get to listen to him last week, as I am back to work now, but in the evening after work I scoured the blogs and then went to his website to read the transcripts and there were plenty of times I found myself shouting "HELL yeah! Damn right!" at what he and many of his callers were stating. Thank GOD for people such as Rush and Palin, who are not so cowed into fear of censoring what they say to be PC, and who speak the words that many of us wish we had the opportunity to say.

41 NY Slimes tries to weasel out of their role in this, as in "we had no role in it"

The question left unanswered: which journalists and pundits?

While there was plenty of debate in newspapers, and on radio and television about the effects of a toxic politic environment, most of the direct accusations against conservative talk radio and pundits were leveled by people online, not members of the mainstream media.

“Besides the senseless violence, there is another disgusting display sweeping America, and that is the exploitation of the murders by political zealots,” Bill O’Reilly opened his show on Monday night. “The merchants of hate who are peddling this stuff should be accountable. So let’s begin with The New York Times.”

Mr. O’Reilly went on to cite a column by the Times Op-Ed columnist Paul Krugman and a Times editorial as evidence that The Times and others were blaming Sarah Palin for the killings and portraying those on the right as “accessories to murder.”

The Times editorial did not actually blame the right for Mr. Loughner’s actions, saying, “It is facile and mistaken to attribute this particular madman’s act directly to Republicans or Tea Party members.” Mr. O’Reilly, who did not read that sentence on the air, did read the section of the editorial that said “But it is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger” that has produced an increase in the number of threats toward members of Congress and the judiciary.

42 Clyde Shelton - Yes Rush too. However, I was referring more to the MFM and the republicans who showed up on the political talk shows.

43 The extra-norml teddies go through the process of how illogical accusations against are: http://tinyurl.com/6hqdlve

[link goes to blogprof]

44 It may seem like smart strategy for Dem's to now try to take away the "tool" of "angry rhetoric", when the tide as shifted against them.

But Republicans have always been more polite, so this will probably just make the angry and violent left stand out.  Not that the MFM will ever notice, but many will.

What the hell is BIRM?

45 Sarah.  The only R with guts.

46

The sickest part of this last week were libtards complaining that Palin was trying to inject herself into the story with her video. I'm pretty sure she would have LOVED not to have been called a murderer from every fucking TV anchor because she had a map with campaign targets on it for 5 days. And that idiot McVain sat back quiet, and now even wants to sit with Dems during the SOTU speach, effectively saying 'Yes, we need to be more civil so more murders dont happen.' F.U. McVain

And then the Fuckwit Krauthammer saying she should have kept quiet, that Big Bill Oreilley already ended the argument for her. Well Chuckles, the argument is STILL going with death threats during an ABC show (which they failed to note on their own program) so shove it up your ass. All of Fox is now sucking Barry's dick because Bill OReilley has a Super Bowl interview/fellating show to do, and we don't want to make Ø mad before that.

47 What the hell is BIRM?

But I Repeat Myself.

48 >> What the hell is BIRM?

But I Repeat Myself

49 acronymically, yes you did

50 The MFM puts the lie out there about the shooter and assigns the blame to the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. Then when the facts come out the bastards stop talking about it. Now they are acting all innocent about starting all the of blame game and they want "civility". They throw the mud and then when it's discovered their accusations are bullshit then they want everyone to wear white gloves and play nice. If North Korea started a war the MFM would blame the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. The sooner the MFM goes out of business or becomes more irrelevant the better

51 Not only was no video found proving the n-word claim, several videos that actually DISPROVED it were:

tinyurl.com/2ga26pl

Breitbart tried to get the MFM to show those videos, but none of them would.

52 plz keep it away. good luck.

53

Republican senators are a bunch of goobers, especially if they fall for this civility charade. Maybe we need to lock them in a room and run a never ending spool of the campaign ads their "friends" broadcast. "Sen. DumbAss voted to ship all of our jobs to China!!!!!" Then some voter fraud statistics and then some more lies during restroom breaks.

These doofuses don't understand that they have political enemies. They must understand that the MFM is an enemy.

In short, what Clyde said about Guadacanal. That is all.

54 Thanks ... I added BIRM to the Free Dictionary list.  I didn't think "Bridge Inspector's Reference Manual" made sense.

55 I think that Loughner was another leftwing loon who, thanks the left's culture and climate of hate-filled, dangerous rhetoric exploded, like Amy Bishop or James J. Lee. I mean, he's a truther, so believing that the US govt is evil enough to do 9-11 surely filled him with anger. Plus, Obama has legitimized violence, from his eerily prescient "bring a gun" comment, to legitimizing Bill Ayer's terrorism, as well as adopting Rev. Wright's hate-filled racism. And, you know, Obama is the only thing standing between business leaders and people with the pitchforks...that sort of code-word for violent action has consequences. I mean, he sent ACORN and SEIU goons to the houses of bank presidents who didn't support his agenda. Furthermore, hate filled lefties frequently call their foes racist and unpatriotic nazis, like Nancy Pelosi did. The DailyKOS said that Giffords was dead to them because of her vote against Pelosi. No, when you look at it, it's quite clear that leftwing hate drove Loughner to murder a blue dog democrat who strayed from the reservation (see also, the DailyKOS diarist who said she's dead to him). I won't even mention left-wing films filled with violent extremest eliminationist rhetoric like Machete or Death of a President. Hell, according to some lib's logic, Fahrenheit 9-11 is also extremest anti-government stuff. Anyway, I think the long suffering wife of Bill Clinton said it best "I'm sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and disagree with this administration, somehow you're not patriotic. We need to stand up and say we're Americans, and we have the right to debate and disagree with any administration" Palin was in her right to debate this administration. If anything, on a scale of 1-10, 1 being super pacifist climate of hate to 10 being super hatefilled climate of hate, I'd put Palin in about a 3 and the left at about a 6. So, even though Loughner was vaguely a leftist who bought into 9-11 conspiracy theories but was generally apolitical, that lefty environment, where people who deny climate change are equivalent to holocaust deniers and opponents to illegal immigration are worse than hitler, he was definately motivated by that climate.

56 I believe that the proper response to these faux calls for civility from the left is to use violent and military language and metaphors as much as possible. Hit back. Strike on their weak flank. Put them in the bullseye. Encircle them and crush them. Shock and awe. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

57 So, even though Loughner was vaguely a leftist who bought into 9-11 conspiracy theories but was generally apolitical

Loughner's school accepted grant money to participate in a small schools workshop program that was part of the Ayers-Obama Annenberg Challenge. The maniac was in their program from grade 9 until he dropped out during his senior year. Did anyone think it was coincidence that a favorite YouTube video was a flag-burning? That the Communist Manifesto was a favorite book? In the video that got him expelled from community college, he ranted about "genocide" and "torture." All this violent rhetoric came from the left.

58 Hit back. Strike on their weak flank. Put them in the bullseye. Encircle them and crush them. Shock and awe. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Joynny Utah: Okay. I get it. This is where you tell me that "locals rule", and that Yuppie insects like me shouldn't be surfing the break, right?

Bunker:  [smiling] Nope. That would be a waste of time... We're just gonna fuck you up!

59 When the facts come out the bastards stop talking about it. Now they are acting all innocent about starting all the of blame game and they want civility.

This was their strategy from the get go. Obama declines to comment aka "stays above the fray" and "lets cooler heads prevail" while his surrogates saturate the media with his lies. Meanwhile, he conducts polling as to whether the public is buying his spin or not. From there, he decides what his response will be. By that time, the dirty work is done and his hands are clean. But his aim has not changed since he waged war on FOX and Limbaugh (never Palin directly, because that raises her profile and engenders sympathy for her), that is to silence his critics. He has accomplished this with his memorial pep rally. He doesn't want civility; little dead Christina splashing in heavenly puddles does. Giffords opened her eyes (chorus 3X), so do it for her. Just disgusting.

60 worse than hitler

This was Obama's Reichstag. There, I said it.

61 Stage 1 - Lies, abuse, false accusations.
Stage 2 - Claim the middle ground, demand civility (especially from the people you lied about)
Stage 3 - Carry on with the assumption that your lies are the truth, refuse to discuss it, claim that anyone who wants to discuss it is prolonging the conflict.

They do this over and over and over - it's become a habit, that's how they all jumped into it immediately this time, they don't even have to coordinate.

Stage 1 is pulling on the ratchet handle, stage 2 and 3 are resetting for another pull.

We have to stop going along with it, we need to document it, describe it, and throw it back in their faces, because we're running out of time. We're broke.

We *can't* reconcile with them, they won't let us. We have to go past them, around them, because the "progressives" aren't going anywhere.

62

The comparison to Hitler's Germany doesn't seem as apt as comparisons to Communist China.

Mid oughts US - dissent is the highest form of patriotism

late 1950s China - 100 Flowers Movemeent - Mao encouraged his countrymen to criticize, in order to make stronger, the Communist Party

2011 US - dissent is racism, dissent is violence, dissent is Islamaphobic, you wingnuts almost got a Congresswoman killed!

early 1960s China - Anti-Righist Campaign launched, all that criticism we solicited previously?  Just kidding!  Now your name is on a list.

Obviously we're nowhere near the Chinese Anti-Rightist campaign.  Palin walks free, but there's a significant percentage of the country that wishes this were not so.  Once that fraction hits 50+1, it's done.  Imgaine if crazy killer said he was doing it for Palin?  I don't think that would get them to 50+1 but who knows?  Once they arrest one for encitement to violence all that operate in the same 'space' face the same 'music'.  If Obama's popularity returns I can see it. 

 

 

 

 

63

1.  Doesn't anyone else get a little tired of the conservative pundits lauding about Obama when he makes a speech of unity after the left creates the problem. 

2.  The t-shirts at the memorial service may have been given out by the university but the slogan was one Obama used in 2008.

3.  If the applause at the memorial service was the result of the spontaneous outpouring of sympathy for the victims, why was the Jumbotron does flashing applause.

(I have links but can never get the link to take on this site)

4.  With all the kumbaya, and lets show a united front for our President at the State of the Union, we might as well change the name of Congress to Politburo.

64 How's that normal mid-winter dip in gas prices working for you racists, while you whine about the Democrats calling you names, just like they've been doing for the past few decades?  We can't drill for our own oil, something bad might happen.  You'll just drive more if Obama doesn't stop you.

Ignore those trillion dollar deficits, fools.  Your betters know how to spend your money for you.

It's still Tea Party time.

65 It's still Tea Party time.

Indeed.