1 got nothing

2 Heartbreaking reminder.

3 It is sad.

I hope that one day our unmatched skill in engineering will return, and we can create a space program worthy of our country.

4 Wow, that's a lucky find after all this time. 

Anyone remember an old movie called "Flashpoint" with Treat Williams and Kris Kristofferson?  Similar deal:  two Texas cops uncover an old jeep, skeleton with a headshot, $800k, a scoped rifle and links to the JFK assassination.

5 Sad, but interesting. There's all kinds of stuff that pops up when lake levels drop. Several years ago, they partially drained Lake Travis here so folks could do repairs to retaining walls and what not. They found dozens of cars, and one with a body in it, IIRC.

6 Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (ignDe)

Probably one of Rick Perry's victims. You do know that he is a serial killer?

7 Sad, but interesting. There's all kinds of stuff that pops up when lake levels drop. Several years ago, they partially drained Lake Travis here so folks could do repairs to retaining walls and what not. They found dozens of cars, and one with a body in it, IIRC.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch

 

I know that some missing aircraft have been found in such situations.

8 Probably one of Rick Perry's victims. You do know that he is a serial killer?




Yes, but like Dexter, he only kills those who deserve it.

9 Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 03, 2011 10:21 AM (ignDe)

Probably one of Rick Perry's victims. You do know that he is a serial killer?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

 

Actually, I wound up there when a perfectly good theory went awry. There's a story here......

10

People have been going into space for 50 years. We forget that they're still pioneers who go on dangerous trips.

God bless them all.

11 NASA?

Aren't they the Muslim-outreach bureau of the Global Warming Ministry?

They used to do something with space?  Who knew?

12
You'd think that every single scrap was recovered a long time ago.

13 Ah, Nagadouches. I had a friend in the Navy from there. Wonder how he is doing now.

14 Sad, but interesting. There's all kinds of stuff that pops up when lake levels drop. Several years ago, they partially drained Lake Travis here so folks could do repairs to retaining walls and what not. They found dozens of cars, and one with a body in it, IIRC. Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch Another grizzly unintended consequence of the Garmin boom, I'd wager.

15 Hell they found a Flying Fortress in a lake in SC awhile back. Had all its armaments too. How come I can't find anything cool?

16 Blood bath on Wall Street.  Cheap porterhouse bull steaks.

17 Hell they found a Flying Fortress in a lake in SC awhile back. Had all its armaments too. How come I can't find anything cool?

Posted by: Sub-Tard

 

why would any B-17 have armament stateside? Was it lost during gunnery training?

18 The way all those who perished should be remembered, heading for the stars:

http://tinyurl.com/3lqdjhz

19 No one wrecked the shuttle more than Precedent McBumbles and his Muslim Outreach.

20 I remember that Saturday morning.  I stood in my front yard and stared at the sky.  Very sobering.

21
you guys read the piece by Bret Stephens?

Pretty damn good.

He uses letters in the alphabet to tell the story of Obama's failed presidency.

“Z is for zero, which is the likelihood that one of the current GOP hopefuls will defeat Mr. Obama in 2012.” Correction…Should be zero chance for reelection……rsk

H is for Hillary, who would have made a better president."

22 40 tons of wreckage rained out of the sky?

I never knew Oprah's ass was even in orbit.

23 That's a sad reminder.  Almost all of the women of my family were at Toledo Bend when the shuttle broke up.  Pieces of it were falling all around them, but it was too foggy to see what was going on.  We were living in Bossier City, LA just outside the gate at Barksdale.  All of the news trucks were parked just outside of our neighborhood for weeks while the recovery was ongoing. 

24 It's probly a lot more than that. Shuttles weigh about 225,000 lbs on re-entry so it's more like 110 tons minus some amount from vaporization...

25 Really- this was so long ago. Let's talk about my birthday instead!

What are you all getting me? ME!!!!11!!!

26 They found an airplane in a lake here in the Texas panhandle a few years ago that disappeared sometime in the 80s, I think.  No telling what's at the bottom of a lake.

27 Speaking of things in the water.  Any of you ever hear of the Tybee Bomb?  In l958 an Air Force plane was forced to drop a nuclear bomb into the water of Wassau Sound, just off Tybee Island (east of Savannah, GA).  From an article in the LA Times in 2004:

In this beach community east of Savannah, the lost bomb has been a legend for so long it's hard to separate fact from folklore.

For the first time in 46 years, the Air Force last week led a team of experts to investigate reports of radiation traces that might reveal the bomb's location.

"I thought it was over here, and then I kept hearing it was over there," said handyman Harold Michael, pointing in several directions from his seat at the bar at Cafe Loco.

"You listen about and there's probably a thousand stories out here," he said.

Islanders remain divided over whether the Air Force should recover the bomb or leave it. The government says the Mark-15 device is incapable of an atomic explosion, though it still contains about 400 pounds of conventional explosives.

Three years ago, island Mayor Walter Parker and the City Council sent a resolution to the Air Force, asking that the bomb be found before the military declared it nonthreatening. Five months later, the Air Force rejected a renewed search.

Now, Derek Duke, a retired Air Force pilot who has privately sought the lost bomb for five years, says he has detected radiation patterns that he believes might mark the bomb's resting place near the southern tip of uninhabited Little Tybee Island, which is about four miles south of the Tybee Island beach community.

So the military sent a team of 20 experts to gather water and soil samples Thursday. A final report will not be ready for several weeks.

28

O/T, maybe lighten the mood here or just another sad reminder...this just in to my in box:

In honor of the 44th President of the United States, Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream has introduced a new flavor: "Barocky Road."

Barocky Road is a blend of half vanilla, half chocolate, and surrounded by nuts and flakes.  The vanilla portion of the mix is not openly advertised and usually denied as an ingredient. The nuts and flakes are all very bitter and hard to swallow.

The cost is $82.84 per scoop....so out of a hundred dollar bill you are at least promised some CHANGE..!

When purchased it will be presented to you in a large beautiful cone, but after you pay for it, the ice cream is taken away and given to the person in line behind you at no extra charge.

You are left with an empty wallet, holding an empty cone with no hope of getting any ice cream.

Are you stimulated?

 

29 Are you stimulated?

No, but I am entertained.

30 I did notice a couple of new islands in a lake near me the other day. I know a plane from Carswell AFB crashed there years ago, but I always figured they had recovered all of it. Now I wonder.

31 Which shuttle disaster was caused by having to go EPA-PC on components?

32 Which shuttle disaster was caused by having to go EPA-PC on components?

Columbia (the one this thread's about).

33

32 That's what I thought.

Someone should start a death-clock for all the people liberals kill.

34 When I saw this story on Fox with the addition of the current temps in Texas DiT was the first person I thought of. Hope you are enjoying the pool Dave. (Do you guys have to install pool coolers down there like we have to install heaters up here in New England?)

35 32 Which shuttle disaster was caused by having to go EPA-PC on components?

Columbia (the one this thread's about).

Posted by: Ian S. at August 03, 2011 11:02 AM (tqwMN)

One hopes there is a dedicated circle in Hell for these career bureaucrats.

36 Well its good that NASA stopped giving rides to school teachers and instead gave teh muslums a ride.

37 The skull pop-up advertising Final Destination V was an unnecessary enhancement to the photo page.

38 36 Here is one of those situations where I have something to say about shuttles and muslims yet I won't say it because it could potentially make Ace look bad. *Golf clap for my descretion*.

39 OT:  Can anyone explain to me how changing a pressure valve on the boiler would cause the hot and cold water faucets all over the house to reverse?

40 The Columbia disaster was the thing that made me go all negative on NASA.  The problem they had with that shuttle was a problem they'd had from the very first flight, and they'd never prepared even a half-ass plan to deal with it.

Their approach was 'let's hope it doesn't happen,' so, when it finally did, they had nothing to do but send that crew on a straight flight to death.  That was unforgivable, that, after 20 years of a known problem, the organization that was supposed to be about 'solving problems, doing the impossible, blah, blah, blah' didn't have even a remote backup plan, but they just kept flying it.

41 Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2011 11:08 AM (X6akg)

I don't know, but clearly it is Bush's fault.

42

kevlarchick (thanks for the tip!) I was at work that Saturday morning, somebody came to my desk and said "pull up CNN" and I watched the images captured.  I was heartsick, I knew what it meant.

 

Have Blue, we have a lot of shade around it, and a water feature that cools with evaporation, so it's about 84 right now, still feels good.  But most pools here are runnin 95 or so, and that sucks. 

43 Posted by: nickless at August 03, 2011 11:09 AM (MMC8r)

Politics and engineering are not a good mix.

44
Which shuttle disaster was caused by having to go EPA-PC on components?

From killing Astronauts to making sure that the paint peels off of our cars and our clothes and dishes will never come clean again - we have so much to thank our bureaucrats for, it's hard to know where to start.

I tried to secure the domain for torchesandpitchforks.com (or any possible variant) years ago - too late.

It's comin' guys.

45 Actual temp here is going to be 101 today, and 103 tomorrow.  However, we've got Emily heading our way this weekend.  I'd love the rain, but the thought of even a close brush with a hurricane, and the damage it would do to our house and community, is too awful to contemplate.

46
OT:  Can anyone explain to me how changing a pressure valve on the boiler would cause the hot and cold water faucets all over the house to reverse?

Tami, it can't. Not "reverse" anyway.

47 Lisa Malone, a spokeswoman for NASA's Kennedy Space Center, said the shuttle debris is no hazard to the public.

No doubt. But that wasn't the official word when the shuttle exploded. Granted, NASA wanted its pieces back to fill in the puzzle. So the public was warned not to touch shuttle debris because it could pose a health risk.

Well, no more shuttle. And soon enough thanks to Bluffy Obama, no more NASA. Beg a ride with the Russians who call you parasites of the world. Give away whatever space travel technology to the Muslim Brotherhood. As if our open borders aren't vulnerable enough as things are.

48 45 Lets hope for a near miss with enough push to break up the weather system.  We've been near 100s every day for a month and our hot weather usually sticks around for up to eight more weeks...

49 Well, no more shuttle. And soon enough thanks to Bluffy Obama, no more NASA. Beg a ride with the Russians who call you parasites of the world. Give away whatever space travel technology to the Muslim Brotherhood. As if our open borders aren't vulnerable enough as things are.

Space shuttles are evil.  Barky's masters told him so.

50 Dave - You have a waterfall, right? I thought that the whole setup looked cool when you put up shots on your blog long ago. Didn't know whether high humidity would interfere with the cooling effects.

Remember when I was back in High School we had a swim meet at the Southington YMCA. For some ungodly reason they had the pool at 94 degrees Fahrenheit. Compettitve (or any kind of) swimming at that temp is just awful.

51 Tami, it can't. Not "reverse" anyway.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 03, 2011 11:14 AM (p+mzQ)

Then someone leaned on a lever or something because my hot is now cold and my cold is now hot.  Friggin'A! 

52 We did have ways to save Columbia but for want of spy satellite pictures (caused by certain people who will remain un-named cuz I like my job) we couldn't implement them.

Columbia had the EDO (Extended Duration Orbiter) package in the Mid-Body meaning it could have stayed up for 20+ days. That would have been just enough time to get Atlantis into orbit with 2 people on board and transfer the crew.

Barring that, there was a last ditch method of landing in alternate site and keeping the wings banked to the right. That would theoretically have kept the damage zone out of the worst of the re-entry plasma. If it was too damaged to land, the crew could have bailed. That one's a little hare-brained but like I said, last resort.

Bottom line is that we could have saved her if only we were allowed to.

53 44
I tried to secure the domain for torchesandpitchforks.com (or any possible variant) years ago - too late.
It's comin' guys.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 03, 2011 11:12 AM (p+mzQ)

Did you try to secure tumbrelsandpikes.com?

54 Tangent OT: My dad has been watching some HI shows. Show premise is that space aliens have landed on earth before because of various advanced technologies they have found. I was watching one episode and it struck me that the shows producers want to believe aliens came in with the cool stuff because it is so sad and in some ways scary that civilizations get quite advanced and then they crumble under the weight of bureaucracies etc and get overrun by barbarian neighbors (or perhaps outlaws ala Mad Max)

55 (Do you guys have to install pool coolers down there like we have to install heaters up here in New England?)

LOL, I had no shade for my pool and in July and August it would get up in the 90s.  I couldn't stand it but wife loved it.

One July we were going to have a party for our company softball team. I went to the ice house (which we no longer have) and bought 300 pounds of crushed ice and dumped it in the pool.

It melted as fast as I could get it in there. Knocked the temp down 2° for an hour. IOW it was a waste of time.

56 I guess Barky felt that, since Texas still had parts from the Columbia scattered hither and yon, there was no need to award the state with one of the remaining intact vehicles. Deep thinker, that one.

57 Watching the market and reading about teh won's birthday reminds me of Stalingrad. Is this what our country has come to? We live, work and fight for the glorious leader. I am so tired of this hump I could scream. Remember to provision your bunker with lots of food and ammo, its a long winter coming.

58 Vic - Saw on Fox today a story about a waterpark doing a publicity stunt where they dumped a ton of ice into the big wading pool. Don't think it would have had much real effect.

59 OT:  Can anyone explain to me how changing a pressure valve on the boiler would cause the hot and cold water faucets all over the house to reverse?

Tami, it can't. Not "reverse" anyway.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 03, 2011 11:14 AM (p+mzQ)

How hot is it outside? Right now my "cold" water comes out of the facet warm. When they changed the pressure control valve they probably had to shutdown the boiler/heater which allowed the water to cool, especially if it is inside the cooled portion of the house.

Once the water heats back up the hot water should be "hot" again.

60 Don't think it would have had much real effect.

Probably didn't.

61 OT, Clint demos how to drink PBR (is it Beer o'Thirty yet?)

http://tinyurl.com/3esgb49

62 Well,  NASA is now flying a prop plane up the DC-Baltimore corridor to sample air pollution. 

It was a feature on the NPR morning show this morning.  Not one trace of irony in the story,  either.

Very sad.

63 If you want to see the extremes to which bodies of water may be drained and what turns up when that happens, run a search for "Aral Sea" or "Salton Sea".

64 Just wait until Obamacare kicks into high gear and you start finding grandmothers in the Hudson Fjord.

65 Clutch Cargo,
What's this paint peels off of our cars about?

66 60
Probably didn't.
Posted by: Vic at August 03, 2011 11:25 AM (M9Ie6)

But, but, but ... there are dozens of stranded polar bears fixin' to drown in the Arctic that could have been saved by that ice!

67 64 Just wait until Obamacare kicks into high gear and you start finding grandmothers in the Hudson Fjord.

Posted by: Fritz at August 03, 2011 11:28 AM (/ZZCn)

But she's pining for the fjords....

68

Then someone leaned on a lever or something because my hot is now cold and my cold is now hot.  Friggin'A! 

It's prob the cold is hot because of the heat outside. However, it they are truly reversed you can have infinite fun with guests.

69 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 03, 2011 11:16 AM (UOM4

Upon his initial election, GWBush knew the shuttle was to be phased out in 10 years. It had reached its potential and had innate weaknesses even before wearing out. Bush announced two ten-year plans; return to the moon, then send man to Mars. Problem with that was timing goals with new administrations. Bush's 10-year return to the moon plan (timed with departure from office if given two terms) had no public interest during hard times; leaving no grounds achieved towards the real NASA goal to get man to Mars. So it was too easy for Obama to cancel Bush's plan. And all along, Obama meant to take funding from NASA to spend on his own pets. Dr. Robert Zubrin made the case that Bush should have initially directed NASA to time the goal to get man to Mars within 15 years so that by the end of the first decade, measurable achievement would have made dropping NASA very unpopular by a new president with the public taxpayer.

Obama just wanted the tax funds to divert into his own fraud, rubbing salt in the wounds by ordering NASA to tutor Muslim theocracies with what had been considered national security secrets when NASA began.

As for the Russians, America had the space station going and invited them to throw in with us, not visa versa. So the entire "parasite of the world" insults from Putin apply to the Russians, as so often malicious insults describe the person hurling them rather than the intended target.

70 Well,  NASA is now flying a prop plane up the DC-Baltimore corridor to sample air pollution.

Interesting. While sitting at a red light last Wednesday I saw a four engine prop plane making lazy circles. Wonder if it was NASA.

71 OT:  Can anyone explain to me how changing a pressure valve on the boiler would cause the hot and cold water faucets all over the house to reverse?

Posted by: Tami at August 03, 2011 11:08 AM (X6akg)

Sounds impossible, the boiler only handles hot water. The cold water branches off before the water supply reaches the boiler then the hot water supply runs out of the boiler.

If they had to unhook the boiler and take it out to change it then maybe when they hooked it back up they could have switched the supply pipes but that doesn't even sound possible, but it would be the only way it could happen IMO.

72 Well,  NASA is now flying a prop plane up the DC-Baltimore corridor to sample air pollution.

So Goddard, which sits in the middle of the DC-Baltimore corridor, and could collect samples by opening a window, and who employs a large segment of the people commuting in that corridor are sampling their own air because........................

73 Well,  NASA is now flying a prop plane up the DC-Baltimore corridor to sample air pollution.

So Goddard, which sits in the middle of the DC-Baltimore corridor, and could collect samples by opening a window, and who employs a large segment of the people commuting in that corridor are sampling their own air because........................

Posted by: dagny

You think that's bad? They've got me measuring my own farts.

74 If the water level drops low enough, maybe we can find the bottom of the double dip.

75 If the water level drops low enough, maybe we can find the bottom of the double dip.

Posted by: WalrusRex

 

It's keeping me company.

76 #73 dagny,  yes,  it's Goddard.  They are collecting air samples at altitude to see how much pollution gets into the upper atmosphere. 

Seemed to me to be a "make-work" thing and not exactly inspiring.

Also,  on the program,  they experienced a delay because one of the air-intake pumps wasn't working. 

All in all,  it was a depressing feature for someone like me,  who thought I would get to travel into space.  I have lived to see both the very beginning and end of manned space flight.

77

NASA had to do something to celebrate Ramadan; give them a break.

78 I just took a shower and they are definitely reversed.  Had to put temp. control handle in the exact opposite position it is usually in.  And I've let several faucets run on both hot and cold...they're reversed too.

This has been going on since Monday night....right after the valve was changed.

It's only about 85 degrees here right now, so it's not likely the outside temp.

79

I just took a shower and they are definitely reversed.

The only way to figure it out is if you post some pics of your shower.

80

I just took a shower and they are definitely reversed.  Had to put temp. control handle in the exact opposite position it is usually in.  And I've let several faucets run on both hot and cold...they're reversed too.

Did you take your laptop in with you? That was very important.

81

The only way to figure it out is if you post some pics of you in your shower.

Posted by: robtr

 

FIFYA.

Fixed It For You. Amateur

82
T-Mobile sucks, it stinks, and it sucks.

83 Why do I set myself up like that......

84
anyway, that Bret Stephens piece is pretty good. Most of you won't like "Z" but you'll like A-Y.

85 Number of Space Shuttle disasters on Bush's watch? 1 Number of Space Shuttle disasters on Obama's watch? Zero Clearly Republicans are terrorists....

86 Why do I set myself up like that......

Posted by: Tami

 

Don't think that way. What you did was perfectly reasonable. We're simply morons.

87

O/T but BREAKING!!!!!

Obama gave a speech!!!!!!!!!!!

88 /T but BREAKING!!!!!

Obama gave a speech!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: FireHorse

 

FML

89 Well,  NASA is now flying a prop plane up the DC-Baltimore corridor to sample air pollution.

Interesting. While sitting at a red light last Wednesday I saw a four engine prop plane making lazy circles. Wonder if it was NASA.

Posted by: Retread at August 03, 2011 11:33 AM (G+7cD)

I live in Baltimore and I saw that plane coming in at about 1000' and it scared the shit out of me.  It honestly looked as if it was going to crash into the field where I was walking.  It had no marks and since I don't read any of the local trash papers I had no idea what it was. 

90 run a search for "Aral Sea" or "Salton Sea".

Posted by: No Whining at August 03, 2011 11:28 AM (0AClR)

Coincidentally, I looked at Uzbekistan the other day when Britain's former ambassador there, Craig Murray, blamed the Norway massacre on the American Tea Party.

Russia traditionally fished a lake there whereas the USSR planned (and accomplished)  the lake's drainage in favor of irrigating agricultural regions elsewhere. So much for 5-year plans end on end. Except for diverted tributaries, how does one irrigate from a empty lake? Satellite photos show what looks like a crater. Aside from losing livelihoods and food source, no more fishing, the region's human population now suffers from toxic chemical environmentally polluted illnesses and cancers living in a dried contaminated dust bowl with no fresh water.

91 Not to be disrespectful or anything, but didn't they find body parts of the astronauts?  I thought I'd read about a helmet being found with a head inside.  In other words, I'm asking if the bodies vaporized during re-entry, or did they at least partially survive?

92 I knew a couple who moved into their first home and discovered a warming sensation while on the throne.  Seems the builder idjits had plumbed the hot water supply line to the toilets.

93

Tami, like these guys said, the cold water feed bypasses the boiler. You should go down to the basement and follow the water from where it comes into the house. You should see the it divert into two lines, one up into the house and the other into the boiler.

Check if any of the pipes after the fork look new or repaired. Check the line out of the boiler also. That would mean the plumbers screwed something up, didn't tell you about it and then re-attached the feeds backward. No way should a new pump have required those feeds to be tinkered with.

94

  We were living in Bossier City, LA just outside the gate at Barksdale. 

Wow, I didn't realize they'd handled that here.

95

#28 - Posted by: dananjcon at August 03, 2011 10:58 AM

Excellent!  If you don't mind I'm going to email that to some of my saner friends.

Last night I had dinner with a very liberal friend of mine who still thinks Obama walks on water.  She brought up the debt debate, etc. and I started slamming her with actual facts - not feelings.  She got really upset and left the table to go cool off.  A 20 ish something man with his family came by my table and said

"We heard the political debate you just had and we agree with everything you said"  I said how glad I was that someone was sane around here and he said "America now agrees with us".   From his lips to God's ear.

96

... blamed the Norway massacre on the American Tea Party.

Obviously. The Tea Party was also responsible for slavery, the Holocaust, the Titanic disaster, the Pompei eruption, the 2004 tsunami, Scott Norwood's kick at the end of Super Bowl XXV, global warming, Darfur, Crystal Pepsi and Margaret Cho. But since this thread started about the Columbia, does anyone know whether the Tea Party is to blame for that?

97 Earlier that week, we were finishing youth soccer practice under the lights and had moved to the parking lot to await seeing Columbia traverse the night sky.  One and all looked up and followed the fast moving dot of light.

98 @Tami,

I'll bet you didn't use a union plumber! All of you Republicans want unregulated free enterprise, but get all pissy when something goes wrong with that free enterprise. If you had used a union man or woman, the work would have been done correctly, by someone who knew what he or she was doing.

So you you used some unlicensed guy who probably doesn't have any idea what he is doing. It will cost you more in the long run, but you will still vote against your best interests in 2012 and vote against the best thing that has ever happened to the working man and woman in this country: Barack Obama. He is looking out for you, and you are too selfish to see it. You keep trying to break the unions, and all they want to do is the best job possible for their customers. I'll bet you hate the teachers union too!

You should be ashamed!

99 Good Lord I hope that was sarcasm @ 100

100 Wow, thanks Mama AJ.  How sad and tragic.  I've always had the uptmost respect for those brave men and women who dare to explore space.  What an honor it is for those who have done so.  Our space program has always been extraordinary and something for our Nation to be very proud of.  I guess it's fitting that Obama ground it as he also grinds the country into the ground.

101

Check if any of the pipes after the fork look new or repaired. Check the line out of the boiler also. That would mean the plumbers screwed something up, didn't tell you about it and then re-attached the feeds backward. No way should a new pump have required those feeds to be tinkered with.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 03, 2011 12:12 PM (rplL3)

I just checked everything.  No new looking pipes (although, the house is only 3 1/2 years old....so the pipes are pretty new anyway.  Thank God for dust!).  The only thing that is different is the valve.

I've called them..they're going to check it.

Thanks for all your help!

102

Speaking of things in the water.  Any of you ever hear of the Tybee Bomb?  In l958 an Air Force plane was forced to drop a nuclear bomb into the water of Wassau Sound, just off Tybee Island (east of Savannah, GA).  From an article in the LA Times in 2004:

Ha! When I read the first paragraph I laughed and thought "Yes! And I bet Jane D'Oh has heard of it too!"

103

Not to be disrespectful or anything, but didn't they find body parts of the astronauts?  I thought I'd read about a helmet being found with a head inside.  In other words, I'm asking if the bodies vaporized during re-entry, or did they at least partially survive?

 

You would think they couldn't possibly survive but I remember that they did find one of the dead in someone's yard. Beyond the tragedy of that awful day are millions of miracles in the form of 40 tons of debris that did not land on someone's head. Imagine if the debris had fallen on a city such as Phoenix or Dallas.

104 Re: Stark's story above, I heard that from someone associated with Mission Control a few years after, made me sick to hear it. In Folsom Lake, near Sacramento, there's a B-52 bomber. They say the avionics were recovered at the time.

105 I'll reserve judgement until the conspiracy theorists weigh in. That looks nothing like the space shuttle and everything like an evil monster eggshell.

106 95  Yes, they staged the recovery effort from Barksdale.  All of the wreckage was taken to a hangar on the base. 

107 Shuttle is haram!
Problem fixed!

108 #95, there's an area southwest of Redleg Impact Area on Fort Polk where part of Columbia came down, and it's still off limits. Some of the wreckage was apparently unrecoverable according to some guys from Range Control who were there at the time.

109 I have been quite impressive with your posts, keep up the great work.

110 Just wanted to go out of a comment. I really enjoyed reading this article. Continue the awesome effort.

111 Nonetheless, they are often asking for nuisance.