1 Washington Post did a pretty damning story on how the administration considered politics before all else on Solyndra. I guess that is why they ran it on Christmas. I mean they wouldn't want anyone to actually read it.

2 First!

3 Darn it . . . Second!

4

Obama is a SCOAMF

5 Oh yea - First and Obama is a SCOAMF.

6 Arhhh...it's Monday.

7 The day after Christmas: when teens awaken early in order to bogart my pre-dawn time on the xbox.

8

Good morning all!

Have to wrap more presents today and get a bday cake for tomorrow for my girl. Wheeee...

9 Mr Fever, I read that WaPo piece too. I'd say they took pains to stress it was a legitimate loan and not crony capitalism. The company failed due to 'bad luck'.
 
The blogosphere has written on on Solyndra far more critically. I'd give that WaPo piece 1.5 stars maybe.

10 Morning all and still a Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all. I did not realize that today was a Federal Holiday and there is NO mail. If I had I would have taken today off. No mail, No money, No fun, No reason to be here.

11 Fresh meat!

12 It's a federal holiday today?

13 The company failed due to 'bad luck'.

'Bad luck' is the escape clause that makes it nobody's fault. 'Stupid decisions' can be pinned on somebody and the SCOAMF is against that.

14 Anyone know if that kid got ever two front teeth for Christmas?

15 Have to travel from my  20's something year old sons place in D.C. back to Massachusetts. Not looking forward to it. Even though D.C. is a liberal hotbed, my sons are both conservatives so conversation was fabulous. Books, politics, music...lively discussions. Most interesting was their take on Republicans and gay marriage. They find this a non issue and wonder why the right continues to see this as a bridge to die on, the same way the left looks at abortion.

16

It's a federal holiday today?

Yep. Can't give 'em enough time off...

17 From one of Monty's favorite DOOM sources here are
 
The 7 most illuminating economic charts of the year

18 Happy Boxing Day everyone! I am anxious about the ridiculous lines today as I try to run errands, not looking forward to it.

19 It's a federal holiday today? Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 09:09 AM (zLeKL) Yeah, since Xmass falls on a Sunday, as HH said above, ya can't give the Feds enough days off. If a Post Office that is going into the crapper

20 I notice the WaPo reported that the loan was started during the Bush admin but somehow left out that it was also denied by the Bush Admin. Funny that.

21 The rediculous lines are already out as I type. You should have seen Target just a half hour ago. Looked like Black Friday.

22 #15 have you and your sons considered that every state that has voted on gay marriage they have voted against it. Even liberal California. I don't remember being able to vote on abortion.

23 I see our dear SCOAMF is blowing smoke up military family asses this morning. That is easy work for someone as lazy as he is

24 Solyndra was a "stupid" decision by its officials. They got exactly what they went into buisness for; free government cheese.

All of these government subsidized businesses have always been the same. They are never capable of making it on their own. If they were, someone would have already started the buisness and would be making money.

These so-called businesses are in buisness for one thing only, getting government money. And the ones who are "cronies" are the ones who get the money until dries up. What is unusual about Solyndra is that their buisness model was so bad it went bankrupt even before the government money dried.

25 My stomach isn't sure whether it wants to throw up again. Place your bets!

26 Linked down thread. Ron Paul has been getting a lot of support from Stormfront. Oh and CDR-M is in the hospital with pnu...pneu... Noo-moan-ya.

27 So, you all think you've got it bad with liberal relatives?

I had the honor of sitting across the Christmas dinner table from: "I don't think people should cut down trees for Christmas." and "I don't think people should lie to their kids about Santa Clause."

I open the news this morning with a story about 6 family members shot dead on Christmas in Texas.

I nod my head, knowingly.

28 How do you pronounce "crayon"? The wife pronounces it "cran." She's from Buffalo and kinda has the Chicago accent.

29 I see our dear SCOAMF is blowing smoke up military family asses this morning. That is easy work for someone as lazy as he is Posted by: The 4th bestest blogger since Lincoln, FDR and that other guy at December 26, 2011 09:15 AM (YeLNv) Makes me wanna puke

30 How do you pronounce "crayon"?

Crayola...

31 Posted by: Vic at December 26, 2011 09:15 AM (YdQQY)
Interesting to me that even if all Solyndra business had been conducted completely in the open and was totally compliant with existing federal, state, and corporate law, it still stinks to high heaven that there is such an ability to suckle at the government teat in support of such a questionable technology.  It the concept/product were truly viable, it would already be in production and cleaning the clocks of its competitors.
Then I think, Gingrich's dealings with F&F were in the open and consistent with existing laws and federal regulations.  So if it stinks for Solyndra, then it stinks for Newt.

32 After 207 years, there's renewed pressure to bring remains of Navy crew home The U.S. Navy crew with a captain from South Jersey perished more than 207 years ago, but an effort to repatriate their remains is getting new attention in Washington. U.S. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta, center, laying a wreath Dec. 17 with U.S. Ambassador to Libya Gene Crets, second from left, and Gen. Carter Ham, left, Commander U.S. Africa Command, at the grave of 13 U.S. Navy sailors in Libya. The soldiers died during the First Barbary War in 1804. In the wake of the liberation of Libya, members of Congress are pressuring a reluctant Defense Department to bring home the bodies of Capt. Richard Somers and his 12 shipmates. But the Navy has resisted, saying that a graveyard in Tripoli is their final resting place. Somers' mission during the First Barbary War was to sail the explosive-filled ketch Intrepid into Tripoli harbor on Sept. 4, 1804, and blow it up amid the fleet of pirate corsairs Bring them HOME

33 I had the honor of sitting across the Christmas dinner table from: "I don't think people should cut down trees for Christmas." and "I don't think people should lie to their kids about Santa Clause."

So you got stuck with a genius who has never heard of tree farms or 'let's play pretend'? Did you give him (her, it?) a lump of coal?

34 Anyone know if there is a blog covering Iran's war games?

35 I guess most people took today off and are still in bed and I'm one of the only schmucks that decided to work?

36 Day after Christmas, and after being out of work for just over 10 months, I'm starting my new job today!!!!!

Oh, and Obama's a SCOAMF

37

Mama AJ, tell your daughter, in case she doesn't know yet, that two days after Christmas is way, way better than two days before.  I've done it 54 times, so I should know.  Happy birthday tomorrow to us both!  My birthday present is a full hour massage and my cake will be a very expensive steak.

38 Congrats, My Sharia Moor, on your job. And on your awesome sock!

39 My Sharia Moor, CONGRATULATIONS!  That's wonderful news.  I was out of work for 15 months so I know how you feel.  I hope you like your new job as much as I like mine.

40 Retread at December 26, 2011 09:25 AM

I'm still trying to figure out, what kind of bug has crawled into their brain.

41 Harry Reid is a f*king liar. Why is this man in charge of anything? Oh right... his senate seat gives him access to graft. He should be laughed off the stage.

42 42 My Sharia Moor, CONGRATULATIONS!  That's wonderful news.  I was out of work for 15 months so I know how you feel.  I hope you like your new job as much as I like mine.

Thanks so much, Tonestaple!! They're great people, and as much as I hated these past 10 months, I'm actually kinda glad it worked out this way, given that my previous employer was a world-class mircromanager incapable of trusting the people he hired to do their jobs.

43 Like your definition of non issue, Blue Hen. I didn't say I agreed with them about the social issues and the Republican party. Their point seems to be the image that the media continues to place on conservatives because of this issue conflating it with racism and other pc incorrect attitudes  keeps their generation from supporting the right. Makes it seem like we are all old and out of touch. I am hoping that this new blood with people like Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan(my own personal hero), Alan West, will create a dynamic which will turn this around.

44 Congrats Sharia!

45 These open threads are like the blank tiles in scrabble. Intellectually lazy and worth no points. Give me some content. I deserve it.

46 I open the news this morning with a story about 6 family members shot dead on Christmas in Texas.

Link to the story.  Happened in Grapevine, Texas.  Not much detail yet.  7th body found at scene believed to be the shooter.  He had 2 guns.

47
  Bless micro-managers. They always ultimately fail, but the damage they do along the way is sickening.

48 Bring them HOME

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 09:25 AM (i6RpT)

Should we bring home the fallen from across the world? For example, we have many thousands of men buried across Europe, yet there are no calls to bring them home. What's the difference?

49 I'm still trying to figure out, what kind of bug has crawled into their brain.

It's the urge to ruin it for everybody else as payback for their own disappointment. Their emotional maturity got stuck at about seven years old and there it stays. The only solution I've discovered is to run away from such people. Quickly.

50

Every Christmas it seems like there is at least one heart breaking story like this.

51

Here is why you can not trust even seeing shit on TV "news"

 

Ron Paul did not storm out of CNN interview. They just made it look that way. Recall ABC editing the Sarah Palin interview in 2008 trading answers to questions to make her look stupid.

52 I hope you all got through the most interrupting, and therefore annoying, holiday of the year in one piece.

53 In before the spam!

54 Should we bring home the fallen from across the world? For example, we have many thousands of men buried across Europe, yet there are no calls to bring them home. What's the difference? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 26, 2011 09:52 AM (nEUpB) They are some of the first, if not the first, American Military personal to die on foreign soil. They are buried in what was, and will probably be in the future, a very unfriendly country to the United States of America and Western Values.

55 So I was just wondering. If today is a Federal Holiday, is next Monday also?

56 Morning All Happy second day of Christmas to you PG. I am have the day off and am hoping for snow.

57 Blue Hen,

The issue is the relentless push to redefine 'normal' in our culture. Ask them to look at any number of dire mistakes we've come to accept as 'normal' because they were forced on our forebears and few of their children questioned it growing up.

This isn't to say our world should remain a static, cast in stone, monoculture. But it says a lot when the people who claim the title 'progressive' are plainly communists who dropped the label in favor of a vague euphemism. Freedom is a rarity in human history but highly desired and the spread of it makes Reagan easily the most progressive President in my lifetime, if words were not twisted to mean new things as it serves the agenda.

Ending the Cold War in our favor. Progress.

Expanding corrosive welfare state influence. Not progress.

58 Every Christmas it seems like there is at least one heart breaking story like this.

Yeah. There are 312 million people in the country -- more than in the entire world during time of Jesus.

59 Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 09:56 AM (i6RpT)

So using that rationale we should bring home everyone in Europe too!

Seriously, are their graves being desecrated or in any way disrespected?

60 They are some of the first, if not the first, American Military personal to die on foreign soil. They are buried in what was, and will probably be in the future, a very unfriendly country to the United States of America and Western Values.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 09:56 AM (i6RpT)

But we can be sure the practitioners of the religion of pieces will always treat the graves of our servicemen with respect.

/sarc (hope this is not needed, but just to be sure)

61 I guess most people took today off and are still in bed and I'm one of the only schmucks that decided to work?

I'm heading to the office for a few hours as well.

62 It's a federal holiday today?

Yes,

This is the day we get to pay these paper-pushing panhandlers to not work on a day they don't even believe in.

63 Have to concede, Vic, it doesn't look like Ron Paul stormed out of anything. Any characterization to the contrary is a flat-out lie. CNN owes the Paul campaign a much-deserved apology (even though Paul was lying).

64 To retrieve 200 year old corpses we could have gotten without effort 60 years ago? Posted by: Blue Hen at December 26, 2011 09:59 AM (c9Ivb) Muslims have no respect for the Dead of infidels. They have, and will in the future, desecrate graves when they feel the urge. There is a huge difference in leaving our Honored Dead in sacred, and sometimes ceded sovereign USD Soil, as has been done in Europe and this situation. And we have in the past brought home the remains of US Military personal killed in action: as in the huge repatriation of those who died on Iwo Jima.

65 So using that rationale we should bring home everyone in Europe too! Seriously, are their graves being desecrated or in any way disrespected? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 26, 2011 10:02 AM (nEUpB) See my # 70. You want to trust a radical muslim gov, which is what is likely to come in the future in Libya.

66 29 Jagger, more than a breakfast drink.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at December 26, 2011 09:20 AM (hXJOG)

JAGGERMEISTER!!!

67 Sorry you are sick Joffen Crayon crayun Congratulations on the job MSM

68 And we have in the past brought home the remains of US Military personal killed in action: as in the huge repatriation of those who died on Iwo Jima. Posted by: nevergiveup We did that because we returned Iwo Jima to Japan. It was a political gesture. Posted by: Blue Hen at December 26, 2011 10:07 AM (c9Ivb) So? The point is we have in the past brought home the mortal remains of our honored dead

69 Have you ever been so drunk on Christmas eve that you're texting one girl late at night, after stumbling to bed, and that's going really well, and another girl sends you a late "Merry Christmas" text, and you get them confused, and end up texting the second girl, thinking she's the first girl, and next morning read that you were texting girl #2 wildly inappropriate things --- which then causes girl number two to be really into you and want to hang out?

I'm never drinking that much again. Or I'm always drinking that much again. One or the other.

70 Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 10:06 AM (i6RpT)
The muz don't respect muz funerals, so I have a problem with expecting that they will honor graves of our service men.

71 See my # 70. You want to trust a radical muslim gov, which is what is likely to come in the future in Libya.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 10:06 AM (i6RpT)

Of course not, but Qaddafi held power for years, and we never did anything about them. What is the impetus for this call for repatriation? The change in government? Are they expected to be more anti-American? I find that hard to believe. Maybe even crazier, but Qaddafi was not a huge fan of America.

72 Sausage gravy and cathead bisquits (SOS), are down the shoot best I ever made, maybe because I used Bambi sausage. I hope Christmas was good to everyone.

73 The muz don't respect muz funerals, so I have a problem with expecting that they will honor graves of our service men. Posted by: Hrothgar at December 26, 2011 10:11 AM (i3+c5) I agree. And while the Department of the Navy does not seem anxious to repatriate these remains, I know the rank and file Sailors and Marines I know are.

74

The muz don't respect muz funerals, so I have a problem with expecting that they will honor graves of our service men.

Wasn't it Arafat's solemn respectful funeral that broke out into a street riot?

75 and end up texting the second girl, thinking she's the first girl, and next morning read that you were texting girl #2 wildly inappropriate things --- which then causes girl number two to be really into you and want to hang out?

JACKPOT!!!

76 Of course not, but Qaddafi held power for years, and we never did anything about them. What is the impetus for this call for repatriation? The change in government? Are they expected to be more anti-American? I find that hard to believe. Maybe even crazier, but Qaddafi was not a huge fan of America. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 26, 2011 10:12 AM (nEUpB) Qaddafi was crazy, but in many ways he was more secular than Islamic. I don't think we wanted to get into a bidding war with him, if we might have asked to repatriate those remains while he was in office. Now there is an opportunity, but that window may close soon.

77 And while the Department of the Navy does not seem anxious to repatriate these remains, I know the rank and file Sailors and Marines I know are.

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 10:13 AM (i6RpT)

What do these rank and file people know about respect for the honored dead?

78 >>I had the honor of sitting across the Christmas dinner table from: "I don't think people should cut down trees for Christmas."

That cracks me up. I live next to a Christmas tree farm.

79 The company failed due to 'bad luck'.

'Bad luck' is the escape clause that makes it nobody's fault. 'Stupid decisions' can be pinned on somebody and the SCOAMF is against that.

Posted by: Retread at December 26, 2011 09:09 AM (ALZZ7)

What was it that Don Shula said about there being a lot of luck involved in football "If you don't have a good quarterback, that is bad luck."

The country has a crappy quarterback who keeps handing off to the dirt and tossing easy passes right to wide open defensive backs. That is the definition of "bad luck".

The Obama presidency is the equivalent of taking the whinny kid from a Jr. high band and starting him at quarterback in the super bowl just because he could sight read sheet music. Who could have predicted that wouldn't work out well?

80

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2011 10:13 AM (4q5tP)

I think it was Khomeni's. Word is the body was torn to shreds by the crowds wanting souviners.

And no, I'm not kidding.

81 For cripes sakes.. we bombed Libya how many times?  Even possibly killing Gadaffi's daughter..  If that didn't give them cause to desecrate American graves, why are you so afraid of it now?

There are tens of thousands of American military buried throughout the world.  Let them rest in peace.  After 207 years..

82 I think it was Khomeni's. Word is the body was torn to shreds by the crowds wanting souviners.

Jerky?

83
The wheels on the bus went round and round right over the JEF's Green Jobs Czar too. That was also bad luck too, I suppose.

84 There are tens of thousands of American military buried throughout the world. Let them rest in peace. After 207 years.. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 26, 2011 10:17 AM (UTq/I) Mostly in Europe.

85 Good quote. Since we are on the subject, Holder sure has been bad luck for a lot of peaple, eh? Especially the dead ones...

86 There are tens of thousands of American military buried throughout the world.  Let them rest in peace.  After 207 years..

I'm with you, although I've never served so I'm not so sure how much my opinion bears weight. However, as a Christian, I can tell you that the bastards have absolutely no access to the souls of the dead. It's only the living that will care.

87 >>Especially the dead ones...

I have lost count. What is the body count for the JEF's collection of world leaders up to anyway?

88 Fast and Furious?

Bad luck. After all the precautions we took, who would have thought the end result would be violence?

89 Lady behind me on the plane just coughed so hard it lifted my hair. My face was turned sideways at the time. So if I get SARS, at least I'll know where.

90 Lady behind me on the plane just coughed so hard it lifted my hair. My face was turned sideways at the time. So if I get SARS, at least I'll know where.

So then she made no attempt whatsoever to cover her mouth.

91 michael sneeze on her

92 We all hope the Presdent Obama, Michelle, Sasha and Malaria had a great Holiday in  Hawaii. Take care of yourself and come back rested to help us Presdent Obama!!!!!

93

Posted by: DOJ at December 26, 2011 10:24 AM (piMMO

There should be a law against that...

94 62 So I was just wondering. If today is a Federal Holiday, is next Monday also?

Posted by: HH at December 26, 2011 10:00 AM (KB0hv)

When I was at NASA that was how it worked.

95 We all hope the Presdent Obama, Michelle, Sasha and Malaria had a great Holiday in  Hawaii. Take care of yourself and come back rested to help us Presdent Obama!!!!!


Yes. Help us Obi Wan Obama.



_{Dang! Try saying that three times fast!}

96 101 We all hope the Presdent Obama, Michelle, Sasha and Malaria had a great Holiday in  Hawaii. Take care of yourself and come back rested to help us Presdent Obama!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, Vermont at December 26, 2011 10:26 AM (Te1S

Shhhhhh, SILENCE!...I'm, ummmm-uhhhh, puttin'.  This preznittin' thing is hard!

97

Posted by: DOJ at December 26, 2011 10:24 AM (piMMO

There should be a law against that...

We'll get right on it. TSA nasal swabs?

98 89, you're absolutely right.  I've never forgotten that because Dave Barry described it as trying to turn the Ayatollah's body into "corpse McNuggets."  I've also never forgotten the bizarre gesture of mourning that consisted of alternating hands slapping oneself on the top of the head.  I still don't get that; I think they borrowed it from a Monty Python Gumby sketch.

99

I think it was Khomeni's, who was TIME Magazine's Man Of The Year for 1979. Word is the body was torn to shreds by the crowds wanting souviners.

And no, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: HH at December 26, 2011 10:16 AM (KB0hv)

Your memory is excellent.  Went and bing!-ed around and found it.  And found the little added factoid for the AoSHQ Manual of Style.

100 Cretz, was 'burned' by one of these German successor sites to Phil Agee some years ago, as CIA when he was in  Cairo, doesn't matter that he was or wasn't we found from the Wikileak though, he made very thorough reports about everyone he came in contact with,

101 and end up texting the second girl, thinking she's the first girl, and next morning read that you were texting girl #2 wildly inappropriate things --- which then causes girl number two to be really into you and want to hang out?

JACKPOT!!!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2011 10:15 AM

 

Reminds me a little bit of when I was 18 and wanted to save the quarter to use the payphone ... so I walked into McDonald's and waited in line to ask the Window (cashier) girl if I could use the phone.

She ran off to the back, which left me a little surprised (at that time, they had a customer courtesy phone right by her below the counter), and I figured she was asking the manager for permission.

Instead, she came back with a piece of paper with "Maria" and her phone number written on it.

She was a hot immigrant from Costa Rica, and I guess had misheard me.

After standing there dumfounded for only a moment, you can bet I told her I'd call her, that we went out, and that I took my cheap ass outside and used a quarter for the payphone.

102 you're absolutely right.  I've never forgotten that because Dave Barry described it as trying to turn the Ayatollah's body into "corpse McNuggets."  I've also never forgotten the bizarre gesture of mourning that consisted of alternating hands slapping oneself on the top of the head.  I still don't get that; I think they borrowed it from a Monty Python Gumby sketch.

I'm Gumby, damnit!

103 the continued assault on for profit education takes a different turn. unions are behind it. http://bit.ly/vkdo1w

104 Sen. Charles Schumer’s brother-in-law was quietly nominated this month to a federal judgeship in New Jersey — a move that has some in the Garden State crying political foul, The Post has learned. Democratic politics at it's best

105 Oh, and after Christmas sale at the NRA site.

106

Mama AJ, tell your daughter, in case she doesn't know yet, that two days after Christmas is way, way better than two days before

Ha, that's true! Well, happy "in between day" as we're calling it.

107 95

bingo

108

Heh.  Go read the Ayatollah's Wiki entry, especially the sections "Life Under .." , "Emigration and Economy," and "Suppression of enemies and opposition."

Here's a taste.  The Shah and his family left Iran and escaped harm, but hundreds of former members of the overthrown monarchy and military met their end in firing squads, with critics complaining of "secrecy, vagueness of the charges, the absence of defense lawyers or juries", or the opportunity of the accused "to defend themselves."  In later years these were followed in larger numbers by the erstwhile revolutionary allies of Khomeini's movement—Marxists and socialists, mostly university students—who opposed the theocratic regime.

SCOAMF synchophants and OWS types most confused.

109

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2011 10:29 AM (4q5tP)

I have no beef with the Times' Man of the Year. Their criteria (then) was the person who most influenced world events. Good or Bad. But I gave up on Time when the Person of the Century came up. How Hitler didn't rate #1 just seemed to me cowardly. His awful legacy lived waay beyond WWII. At least until the fall of Communism in East Europe at the end of the '80's, or as some will say, the current anti-Semitism of many Arab countries that were under Nazi control in the '40's.

110

President Obama is trying to put some distance between himself and the wreckage of bankrupt brokerage MF Global. But not too much distance.

After returning more than $70,000 to Jon Corzine, the CEO who led MF Global into bankruptcy, the presidentÂ’s re-election organizations are still hanging onto nearly $150,000 connected to the firm, The Post has learned.

111

So the garbage probably isn't getting picked up today, I'm thinking.

Heaven forbid the city think this might be useful info to have on their web site.

112 I should have stated that I "had" no beef with Time. That, of course, has changed.

113 As regards the New York Times looking into Romney's Harvard education, and questioning his statement about repeal and replace Obamacare, . . . Anyone recall them vetting Obama in this way?

114 Anyone recall them vetting Obama in this way?
Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 26, 2011 10:51 AM (L3lHg)

You're just being stupid and playing with us now....aren't you?

115 122 As regards the New York Times looking into Romney's Harvard education, and questioning his statement about repeal and replace Obamacare, . . . Anyone recall them vetting Obama in this way? Posted by: I am the walrus, goo-goo-ga-joo at December 26, 2011 10:51 AM (L3lHg) Well YEAH! Don't you remember they agreed he was Sort of Like God?

116 ...over at Breitbart -- 'California to stop towing Unlicensed Drivers'...what could possibly go wrong?

117 Anyone here an iMac user? If you have an OS X Leopard operating system, just how much $ does it take to upgrade to the Lion system - and is it worth it? Is iCloud worth it??

118 Don't you remember they agreed he was Sort of Like God?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 11:03 AM (niZvt)

And God don't make no mistakes!...soooooooo, no need to actually DIG into any of his writings, grades and stuff...they were (no doubt) perfect anyway!

119 If you have an OS X Leopard operating system, just how much $ does it take to upgrade to the Lion system - and is it worth it? Is iCloud worth it?? Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 11:05 AM (niZvt) 1) iCloud is nice. Is it worth it? You can do what iCloud does manually 2) I like Lion but if your old Mac is right on the borderline of Ram and Processor speed, I would be real careful. Not sure in that case you should upgrade.

120 ...over at Breitbart -- 'California to stop towing Unlicensed Drivers'...what could possibly go wrong?


I remember way back, 30 years or so ago, the law in Louisiana was that if a car was left by the side of the road for more than a certain number of days, a person could file a claim and take possession of it. There were no cars on the side of the road back then.

If a person left their car, it wasn't for long.

I wonder if that's still in place.

121

...they were (no doubt) perfect anyway!

Yeah, I'll bet his 'compare and contrast' essay concerning Washington and Marx was a stunner! Too bad we can't read it...

122

Got to spend Christmas with my brother's Spawn-of-Satan^tm grandson from his first marriage at our parents' house.  After enduring the little shithead for several hours, I finally grabbed him and handed him to his father and told the father to control his kid.  After the fiasco ended, I had to tell my mother that I will not be in the same house with that boy ever again.

Good times.

123 <"That's Not an Open Thread. This Is an Open Thread." All Open Threads are alike. They're all vertical, part easily for comments if you use the correct sign in, and once in a while produce a queef like Random.

124

The Obama administration won't be bound by a gun control ban in the $1 trillion spending bill for 2012, the president said Friday.

The funding provision for the federal health agency says that "none of the funds made available in this title may be used, in whole or in part, to advocate or promote gun control." The language aims to ban taxpayer dollars from supporting gun safety research.

"I have advised the Congress that I will not construe these provisions as preventing me from fulfilling my constitutional responsibility to recommend to the Congress's consideration such measures as I shall judge necessary and expedient," Obama said in a statement as he signed the bill into law.

The president's signing statement also says he could end up ignoring a provision that bars taxpayer funds for paying for the "salaries and expenses" of so-called White House czars, including the director of the White House Office of Health Reform. The office was abolished earlier this year.

That provision "could prevent me from fulfilling my constitutional responsibilities, by denying me the assistance of senior advisers and by obstructing my supervision of executive branch officials in the execution of their statutory responsibilities," Obama said. "I have informed the Congress that I will interpret these provisions consistent with my constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed."

via instapundit

125 2) I like Lion but if your old Mac is right on the borderline of Ram and Processor speed, I would be real careful. Not sure in that case you should upgrade. Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 11:07 AM (i6RpT) Yeah, I think I'm in that position - I meet the system requirements, but that's about it. It's a 3 year old Mac now (dual core), and I bought the mid-level capability one. It's still great for browsing, so maybe I'll just let it be. I got an iPad2 for Christmas and they really push the iCloud thing, but I'm not sure it really is necessary. Thanks for the advice, nevergiveup.

126 @ 27 I am the original "My Sharia Moor" on this blog, and have been for many months now. I have been gainfully employed all year long, and in fact have never been jobless for the past 30 years.

Congrats to the faux-My Sharia Moor on your new job, but please stop using my handle.

Thanks.

127 Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 26, 2011 11:11 AM (M0NzJ)

RBC -- how old is the little shit?

128 Retired Buckeye Cop
a real , get off my lawn moment?

129 That should be @39, not @27...my bad.

130 137 Retired Buckeye Cop
a real , get off my lawn moment?

Posted by: willow at December 26, 2011 11:17 AM (h+qn

...sounds like a grab the bottle and drink moment!

131

Of all things to jump to shark over, redstate really needs a head check for doubling down on Virginia ballot conspiracy kooks.

I cant even fathom the craziness over there.

132 Ron Paul Xmas Gift Makes Republican Girl Cry

133 billygoat, i presume it was a teen. but maybe a terrible two's scenario

134 Two interesting articles this morning, I thought. 1) On Ron Paul, from a former 20-years-long aide to him, interesting stuff I've never read before (from RightWing News): http://tinyurl.com/cs4snkl 2) A really classic story on Newt Gingrich, from the WaPo (Woodward), an interesting look back at the 1990 House GOP budget revolt, featuring new quotes at the time from Cheney and Kemp: http://tinyurl.com/6ock442

135 RBC -- how old is the little shit?

Posted by: billygoat at December 26, 2011 11:17 AM (6DDE+)

He's a bit over two years.  His mother is my brother's girl -- she's a complete disappointment, dropped out of high school, etc.  Kid's father is also an imbecile.  They ignore their kid so he acts out to get some kind of attention.

It's so bad that our dad doesn't want them in his house but mom won't kick them out. 

Yeah, after Mrs. Cop and I got home, I broke into the single-malt Scotch.

136
Ignore all of the comments above this one.

This thread starts anew.

137
Fisrt.

138 That's not a third leg,  THIS is a third leg!

139 but maybe a terrible two's scenario

Posted by: willow at December 26, 2011 11:25 AM (h+qn

...nice guess, Willow!

140 >I had the honor of sitting across the Christmas dinner table from: "I don't think people should cut down trees for Christmas."

After the 2000 mile trip we just took down through Illinois, Kentucky, the Smokies, and Georgia, the 'we're deforesting the Earth' people can kiss my ass.

Where the hell do these people live their lives??

141

Florida wants a new law because it has DAs who are incompetent

Hey FL, you can't cure stupid with a law.

142 @143: Liberal aoshq reader? Are you really liberal? What are your thoughts on Obama?

143

Yeah, after Mrs. Cop and I got home, I broke into the single-malt Scotch.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 26, 2011 11:29 AM (M0NzJ)

...and a nice guess for me also!...Holidays...takes all kinds of moments to make the world spin!  My best (adult) Christmas was spent in the BVI's...sailing.  It took a while to get used to; like 5 minutes!  I've only one niece (now 19) so the whole Kids and Christmas thing was minute and short-lived...

144 He's a bit over two years.  His mother is my brother's girl -- she's a complete disappointment, dropped out of high school, etc.  Kid's father is also an imbecile.  They ignore their kid so he acts out to get some kind of attention.

I had a run-in with a similar hellion. Ordinarily, I would be majorly pissed. The last time it happened I tried something different, I gave the kid the attention he was craving. I grabbed him and hugged him and tickled him. Of course, that made him annoy me more so that he would get more hugs and tickles but, after a while, he would listen to me better than anyone else. From there on, I was the last person he wanted to disappoint.

145 Merry Christmas to all.  Except of course, to the Religion of Peace that apparently bombed a bunch of churches in Nigeria. 

All I want for Christmas next year is a giant, radioactive, smoking hole where Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, etc, are right now.

146 heh, yes i remember barely surviving my children's terrible two's.
fcol, it was barely..
but nothing compared to the 17-11 month to 24 year old year old, i'm almost an adult and I know everything age..

147 but maybe a terrible two's scenario

Posted by: willow at December 26, 2011 11:25 AM (h+qn

It's more a case where this kid's parents don't know/care how to be parents.  The father of Spawn-of-Satan^tm frequently went outside to sit in his car and smoke while his mother told the little shit that if he didn't behave, his uncle (me!) was going to spank him. It was a fucking nightmare.

148 Hey FL, you can't cure stupid with a law.

Dude, you have clearly forgotten that we are the state that outlawed mama pigs being separated from their piglets and made it a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to have a bullet train.

149 "That's not a third leg,  THIS is a third leg!" He ain't got nothin'.

150 My experience has been that the "terrible twos" are actually the terrible threes.

151 Captured from twitter:

I want to share with you these rules from the Sons of Liberty, a militia in northern Alabama:

1. You can't kill a Hydra by cutting off its head. Militia groups seem to find one another sooner or later.

2. Small things are harder to find. Keep the group size down. If you've got more than 10-12, spin off another group & keep it compartmental.

3. Keep quiet & you're harder to find. Beware of loose cannons & braggarts. Likewise beware of wives & sweethearts. "Hell hath no fury."

4. Keep it legal. You may be offered a great deal on a load of M-16s. DON'T! Entrapment is the way of all feds.

5. Don't keep all your eggs in one basket. If you have more than one rifle, store it in a hideaway spot. Remember to store ammo & web gear with it, enough ammo for at least one combat load.

6. Hide your best eggs from prying eyes. Destroy any documents or discs that become unnecessary. Leave no clues.

7. Bojangles Robinson ain't the only one who can tap. Avoid the phone as much as possible & never speak in plain English about the club.

8. A rose by any other name smells just as sweet. Most groups meet under cover of another activity: gun club, Bible study, even bowling.

9. Remember you're not alone. There are an estimated 1,500 militia groups scattered across the 48 states and Alaska.

10. Remember your principles. Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have war, let it begin here.

Ron Paul Newsletter
Previous tweets about the "10 TEN MILITIA COMMANDMENTS" [above] were written Jan. 1995, 3 months before Oklahoma City bombing. -RPN

152 I had the honor of sitting across the Christmas dinner table from: "I don't think people should cut down trees for Christmas."

Amazing.

I'm at the point in life where I just say FU...or FOff...many stories to relate about being chastised for being a conservative (as if I'm the devil).  The amount of stupid hurled at me is maddening...hence, FU and FO.

153 Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at December 26, 2011 11:38 AM (piMMO)

I don't remember those but I do remember something to do with weapons stored in a house with children that they made a felony. Can't remember the particulars though.

154 '"That's not a third leg,  THIS is a third leg!" He ain't got nothin'.' I agree.

155 Spawn-of-Satan^tm frequently went outside to sit in his car and smoke while his mother told the little shit that if he didn't behave, his uncle (me!) was going to spank him. It was a fucking nightmare. Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop

haha, whew, yes a drink was well deserved, and the kid will likely grow up and be o.k

one can hope.

Neidermeyer. hell it can last well into age 4.
i think that is why warm baths :calgon, glass of wine , door lock and another parent were invented.

156 140 Of all things to jump to shark over, redstate really needs a head check for doubling down on Virginia ballot conspiracy kooks.

I cant even fathom the craziness over there.

Posted by: Moe Lane Lost His Mind

Bullshit. Moe Lane has not lost his mind.

The stinky doo doo smell coming out of this Virginia ballot-gate is getting stronger, as details come out.

Romney's campaign chairman for VA is the one in charge of determining who gets on the ballot.....Lt. Gov. Bill Bolling. ....Bolling should have recused himself from this. This is a huge conflict of interest.

The rules were also changed....last month. .....This is apparently the first time that the signatures have been subjected to this new scrutiny.

Romney turned in over 15,000 signatures.....so he gets a pass on this new scrutiny. .....Ron Paul also gets a pass, even though he didn't turn in over 15, 000.

So anyone who turns in over 15,000 sigs....whether they are bogus or not....gets a pass from the line-by-line scrutiny?

Like I said.....the smell coming off this is strong, and getting stronger.

157

Good to see redstate doing ACORN's work.

I hope that they realize the longer this strory hangs around the more it drags there candidates down. I hope he keeps it alive for Iowa.

 

158

I had a run-in with a similar hellion. Ordinarily, I would be majorly pissed. The last time it happened I tried something different, I gave the kid the attention he was craving. I grabbed him and hugged him and tickled him. Of course, that made him annoy me more so that he would get more hugs and tickles but, after a while, he would listen to me better than anyone else. From there on, I was the last person he wanted to disappoint.

Yeh, probably the best thing that can happen for a kid like that is for relatives to spend lots of time with him AWAY from his parents. Even if they don't change, he will learn that things are better when he and the adults are behaving, IYKWIM. And there's always a faint chance that the parents will notice how much better he behaves around other people.

159 Since when can't you buy beer the day after Christmas, a Monday, in CT? Is Boxing Day some sort of religion here?

160

164

Willow:  I really wasn't mad at the boy, I was frustrated that his parents are such a pair of idiots.  The boy is only behaving the way he is taught by his parents.

Things got ugly when the three different two-year-olds starting snatching gifts from each other.  Oh well, Happy Boxing Day to all the 'rons & 'ettes.

That's it for now, signing off.

161 Under "Imagine if Bush Did This" via JWF:

Surprise! Obama Still Pocketing Corzine Cash

162 @Joffen 151 - Yes, I'm really liberal. Raised Jewish in the northeast so I was genetically predisposed to voting D. :-) Then I went on a journey of sorts, reading a LOT of lib and con political lit and columns, testing my assumptions, checking myself. I ended up back where I started, but coming from a deeper (I'd like to think, anyway) and more grounded place than just "those stupid rightwingers are just wrong wrong wrong!" I'm pretty solid on my first principles at this point, but I keep up my conservative reading habits to this day, as you can see. IMHO it's essential to seeing the whole picture on any issue, and admittedly, interesting for political junkies like me as well. I like Obama personally and politically. He's as good a representative of what I believe as anyone else, probably better despite his aloofness. He's disappointed me in some ways and exceeded my expectations in others. I supported him in the primaries over Clinton and Edwards, something I'm proud of (no dynasties for me, thanks...and Edwards, yuck). I'll support him again. But I don't worship him, nor do I expect miracles. I'll take moving the ball a few yards down the field. That's all anybody can really do in either direction nowadays.

163 @ 168

   Wait until after 12AM. Betcha can buy it then.

164

Willow:  I really wasn't mad at the boy, I was frustrated that his parents are such a pair of idiots.  The boy is only behaving the way he is taught by his parents.

Things got ugly when the three different two-year-olds starting snatching gifts from each other.  Oh well, Happy Boxing Day to all the 'rons & 'ettes.

That's it for now, signing off.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 26, 2011 11:54 AM (M0NzJ

I understand, take that much deserved rest.

165 "If you have an OS X Leopard operating system, just how much $ does it take to upgrade to the Lion system - and is it worth it? Is iCloud worth it??"

Working out OK for me, but I have some older hardware that don't work under OSX Lion. 10 year old printers and an digital audio converter. Driver problems I guess. So, the conversion did force me to buy some new stuff, which I had not expected.

Other than that I like the upgrade.

166 @171

  Liberal. you like Obama personally and politically???

  Maybe you need to retrace some of that journey.

167 Yes, I'm really liberal. Raised Jewish in the northeast ...
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at December 26, 2011 11:55 AM (pVE7Y)

As a Jew, I don't know how you could like Obama...in any way, shape or form.

He's disappointed me in some ways and exceeded my expectations in others

...please enlighten us...in what ways has he exceeded and disappointed?

168

That's it for now, signing off.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at December 26, 2011 11:54 AM (M0NzJ

RBC -- enjoy the rest of your day!

169 So I'm a broke ass grad student and never have money to donate to ace. However, I shop for pretty much everything on Amazon. If I change my Amazon bookmark to the link provided, will ace get a few shekels everytime I shop there?

170 @171: What books have you read from the conservative viewpoint? What articles? So you're happy with Obamacare?

171 Today is Boxing Day....

All my Canadian friends are posting it on facebook!

172 #171

So, 'no real accomplishments but means well' is a big selling point?

Go figure.

173 What's that smell?

174 You know, I have to say that if the Virginia ballot signatures issue is something cooked up by the Romney campaign . . . GOOD FOR THEM!

Callous, yes, but that means they might actually be able to go head-to-head against Obama's electoral fraud machine with a chance of at least holding their own. Too many nice decent honest Republicans are like a Faberge Egg in a wood chipper when dealing with the Democrats. (I don't understand why, exactly: the Dems have used the same playbook since the Andrew Jackson administration.)

175 Look how clever I am

I will sell you my $99 Newsletter (marked up from $50) for the amazing price of $49.50.

We already have a con-artist in the White House.. Why do we need Ron Paul?

176
#50
These open threads are like the blank tiles in scrabble. Intellectually lazy and worth no points.

Give me some content. I deserve it.



Ed, for someone who complained the other night about someone bitching about their plight in life, and then continued on to complain about how much more YOUR plight in life sucked, and now today I see this?

177 All my Canadian friends are posting it on facebook!

Posted by: the girl from New York at December 26, 2011 12:02 PM (oZfic)

Boxing Day, it is!...this from a Half-Canadian...my Mum mentioned it today on our phone conversation...

178 Well I've got a few extractions to do and one impression and I am outa here for the day.

179 Boxing Day, it is!...this from a Half-Canadian.. --- Where's your mom from? I'm from Toronto, but I live in the States now.

180 So, 'no real accomplishments but means well'...

Don't you know?...means well, means EVERYTHING!!!11eleventy!!11!!

181 Let's be nice to our liberal friend. Maybe we can convince them to come over to the Dark Side.

182 So if Perry, Gingrich, et al had submitted a few thousand more legit sigs then they would've foiled all the evil machinations of the Establishment? Gee whiz, maybe they should have done that. Conspiracy tards never think things through.

183

If I change my Amazon bookmark to the link provided, will ace get a few shekels everytime I shop there?

That's the idea!

I hope it's working out well. I bought a lot from there and have been starting from the search link every time...

184 Hey Joffen!...she's from 'tertiary' cottage country -- Haliburton Highlands area...really close to Algonquin...raised a conservative (Welsh/Scot/Indian) on a farm up there...........God's country.

185 'PLO might revoke recognition of Israel' Executive Committee Member Hanan Ashrawi says Palestinian leadership may renege on its recognition of Israel if peace process continues to falter And then Israel should kick your terrorist lying piece of shit asses right out of the West Bank

186 ...Joffen, I'm BEING nice!

187 Mum went to university in Trono, btw!

188 Hey Joffen!...she's from 'tertiary' cottage country -- Haliburton Highlands area...really close to Algonquin...raised a conservative (Welsh/Scot/Indian) on a farm up there...........God's country. ----- Cool. I don't know much aboot that area, although I lived in Sudbury for about 8 years...roughly the same landscape, I expect.

189 And then Israel should kick your terrorist lying piece of shit asses right out of the West Bank

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 12:14 PM (i6RpT)

Works for me. And how about a nice 50 mile buffer on the eastern shore of the Jordan?

190 Oh yea! The ten day forecast says sunshine and more sunshine!!! I know we needed the rain, but 7.5 inches for the month is plenty, me thinks.

191 Joffen...you're up in the Buffalo area, right?

192 IronGrampa and BillyGoat: I admit that I am pretty hesitant to get too deep into the typical lib vs. con conversation here, because I have visions of the Burly Brawl from the second Matrix movie, except I'm in there as a 40-year-old schlub instead of Neo! :-) I just wanted to give Joffen the courtesy of a reply. But I'll do my best here. Regarding the "how could Jews vote for Obama" question: A majority still support him, so you'll have to ask a lot of folks. Since I can only speak for me, I'm in a complicated spot on it: I firmly believe in the right of Israel to exist in peace and defend itself. The question is, what policies best bring that about? I think it's a combination of a strong, unyielding defense and some kind of two-state solution in the future. I don't think new settlements help, but I don't think they're the dealbreaker either, nor do they justify violence by anyone. I don't think Netanyahu has the answer other than to fight and muddle through, but then I clearly remember 2000 when Arafat walked away from Ehud Barak and Clinton on a pretty damned good deal as well. I think what makes me "liberal" on this is that I think that, as we fight the muslim extremists who really wish to kill us, we have to find a way to separate them from the muslims who just want to raise their families in peace and make a decent living. Somehow we have to win the allegiance of the latter and destroy the former. To some cons that's pie-in-the-sky "nuance" - to me, it's the essential component of the winning strategy: divide and conquer. That is, unless we're willing to turn the whole place to glass, which we're not (and telling, neither is Israel). It's sticky. Smarter people than me have screwed it up, and will likely continue to do so. Ultimately I'm center-left on foreign policy, a little further left economically, and pretty damned left on social issues. My replies are also too long, something I'm working on, lest they become a movie review...

193 Via Redstate, Perry and Newt would have qualified for the VA primary ballot under the rules as they stood THIS NOVEMBER.

194 Joffen...you're up in the Buffalo area, right? --- Niagara Falls, specifically.

195 I hope Christmas was good to everyone.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at December 26, 2011 10:13 AM (LqRsT)

The empty tequilla and triple sec bottles tell me it was so.

Not making the ballot because not enough signatures? Didn't stop SCOAMF in South Bend, now did it?

196 It's beautiful there -- lots of Sodalite, Uranium and metals mines...we used to spelunk in them...and ride our dirt bikes on the fire roads.  Great lakes and times...don't get back near enough...

197

Posted by: willow at December 26, 2011 11:14 AM (h+qn

When a WZ post gets 70 responses, you know it has hit a nerve.  They deserve credit for having this up so fast.

198 Sadly for Redstate they made it clear during their purges earlier in the year that they have no interest in hearing/posting anything that doesn't directly harm Romney (to save America from George Soros or something...). Anything they report on has to be looked through the lens that they've insisted on using, making it all but useless.

199 a little further left economically...

I'm a fiscal conservative and for me everything 'roots' here.  I'd like to read your thoughts here specifically...really.

200 Ultimately I'm center-left on foreign policy, a little further left economically, and pretty damned left on social issues. ---- Thanks for the reply. You have me intrigued. I don't like to get into brawls online with someone in "enemy territory", I will go to Kos and TPM for that lol --- Is there any way you can be more specific? I love talking with liberals and picking their brain. I'm interested to know why liberals don't see the utter failure in the things they advocate. For instance, LBJ's Great Society was a failure on most counts (I'm being generous). Yet liberals want more of that. It's hard to comprehend.

201

I love the tradition of Boxing Day. Giving away stuff we no longer want or need to someone who can use it. Recycling before it was cool. Charity that comes from the people directly rather than filtered through the government strainer of corruption and waste.

For our liberal readers; If the waste, corruption and plain ignorance of this administration hasn't shocked you to the point of being outraged..... you aren't paying attention. Just sayin'.

 

202 Niagara Falls, specifically.

Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 12:21 PM (zLeKL)

Yeah, that's it.  We had my Mum's 80th at a winery in NOTL...love the Falls...but especially the Ontario side.

203 Yeah, that's it. We had my Mum's 80th at a winery in NOTL...love the Falls...but especially the Ontario side. ---- Yes, Canada is a beautiful country. I also lived in Calgary, one of the most beautiful cities next to the Rockies.

204

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at December 26, 2011 11:55 AM (pVE7Y)

I've seen your posts from time to time and appreciate your honesty and congeniality.   Question: since you support Obama and plan to support him in the future can you tell me if you support ObamaCare.  If so, please tell me how that squares with being a "Liberal" at all. 

To my understanding a Liberal believes in maximum individual liberty/minimal coercion.  Mandating that I now must purchase a product to be a citizen in good standing is antithetical to the concept of individual liberty.   I also can't find these powers granted to the federal government in the constitution.

The same goes for the left's tax-and-spend fiscal policies that are enslaving our kids and grandkids.  How would you rate Obama's handling of the economy this past 3 years? 

And finally, as someone who obviously stays abreast of current events how do you feel about things like Fast and Furious, failed solar companies, and military action in Libya and Uganda, and this administration's chilly relationship with Israel?  Sorry if that's too many questions.  "Liberals" intrigue me.

I had this conversation with my gay cousin over the weekend.  She's a social / wedge issues voter, nothing more.  It's frustrating.

Merry Christmas/Happy Hanukkha

205 Arab League observer: Assad committing genocide in Syria Around 50 Arab League monitors, headed by Sudanese General Mohammed al-Dabi, began arriving in Syria to start inspecting areas gripped by violence. Genocide? Not even close. Try buying a dictionary

206 A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! I think the question on all our minds is, "why do you hate freedom?" Heh.

207 For instance, LBJ's Great Society was a failure on most counts (I'm being generous). Yet liberals want more of that. It's hard to comprehend.

Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 12:26 PM (zLeKL)

J...I have a very good friend who is an extreme social-Liberal...yet when I scratch that surface to dig I find she has some extreme views re: Great Society issues...bordering on Fascist ideals/thoughts; it's quite shocking.  Most Liberals I know seem to think it hasn't worked because enough of it hasn't been tried...hard to wrap my head around that one.  Especially having grown up in/near a major (CLE) US urban area.

I too like to find out more though, I must admit...

208 Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 12:28 PM (zLeKL)

Western Canada is phenomenal.

209 @Joffen - thanks, but no need to ask for mercy on my behalf, I'm here of my own volition. :-) @BillyGoat & @epobirs - I'm trying not to write a book in every post...I don't think I actually said "I like Obama because his intentions are good." I like Obamacare. I'm glad it passed. I like the mandatory coverage for basic woman's preventative health services and children under parents' policies to age 26. I'm a sole-prop self-paying for insurance and making it work, but I'd like to collectivize with other individuals in an exchange so I have the same shot at the much lower rates as those employed by large companies. (Tell you what else - I think employer-based health care should be scrapped and we should ALL be in an individual market because we'd have a better shot at knowing what everything actually costs, but that's "radical", right?...). Until and unless the day comes that Medicare is scrapped, which I don't think is coming and I'm not in favor of anyway, we all have skin in the game of the overall cost of health coverage, and I think everyone should have access to basic insurance or make a small contribution to the pot. I realize this is not a conservative position. I can already see I'm not going to be able to keep up with this! But I'm trying to be respectful in answering your questions. Pat Buchanan's "Right From The Beginning" was a big book in my youth, and I read a couple of Buckley essay compilations...I admit, I haven't read "Amercia Alone"! More essentially, I've read nearly every issue of National Review going back to 1992, along with The New Republic, up until about 2004, when everything became about blogs. I'll tell you this - being online makes it MUCH easier than before.

210 Western Canada is phenomenal. ---- You ever been to the West Edmonton Mall? It's the largest shopping mall in North America, which is weird because you would think the largest would be in the States. Heh.

211  Let's be nice to our liberal friend. Maybe we can convince them to come over to the Dark Side.

Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 12:13 PM (zLeKL)

Don't forget to mention the cookies.

212 Joffen @215 - LOL, nicely done. When I start saying stuff like "God, why are your cons so raaaaaaacist?", then y'all can go crazy on me. :-)

213

Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! at December 26, 2011 12:36 PM (pVE7Y)

I'll help you with the book form posts:

He'd be a conservative (at least re: Obamacare) except LBJ's Great Society forces him to be a communist.

Pretty much explains why he's a lib, got the same incongruous "nuanced" thoughts of every liberal I've ever known.

Chappy Chanukah bub, hope you keep coming through.

214 219 Western Canada is phenomenal. ---- You ever been to the West Edmonton Mall? It's the largest shopping mall in North America, which is weird because you would think the largest would be in the States. Heh. Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 12:38 PM (zLeKL) Well where else can all the polar bears hang out at, with all the ice melting and all?

215 Don't forget to mention the cookies. ---- I came to this blog because someone told me you had punch and pie. That's the only reason I keep coming back. Still waiting...!

216 Just one question for our liberal friend:

Why do you support borrowing from China and giving the I.O.U. to your kids and their kids?

You had to believe that, if you believed in raising the debt ceiling.

217 "I like Obama because his intentions are good."

It's a Liberal meme...you get used to (think you've) hearing them...in fact, it seems like that meme is intertwined through many Liberal talking points.

218 Well where else can all the polar bears hang out at, with all the ice melting and all? ---- It also has one of two fully-functional submarines from the Canadian Navy. The other one is in a museum or something.

219

202 Via Redstate, Perry and Newt would have qualified for the VA primary ballot under the rules as they stood THIS NOVEMBER.

Yeah, boone. .....It's looking like Romney operatives changed the rules last month, to benefit Romney.

If this is allowed to stand, then the stench is all over Romney. 

This could explain why Romney has had such an insufferable attitude. ....He and his operatives have been acting like it is 'inevitable' that he will be the nominee.......and that we should just 'lie back and not resist' having him forced upon us.

The fatal flaw in this thinking is that they are ignoring how much people will be turned off by having him forced on us. ....Even though the 'ABO' feelings are strong....it won't be enough for Romney to overcome the outrage.

220 Well where else can all the polar bears hang out at, with all the ice melting and all?

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 12:43 PM (niZvt)

They have to go somewhere!!!

221 227 "I like Obama because his intentions are good."

It's a Liberal meme...you get used to (think you've) hearing them...in fact, it seems like that meme is intertwined through many Liberal talking points.

Posted by: billygoat at December 26, 2011 12:46 PM (6DDE+)

The road to hell is paved in Obama's intentions.

222 @  A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! - We're all liberals.  We just have different definitions of liberty.

223 and children under parents' policies to age 26.

...children aged 26...an oxymoron only a Liberal could come up with and then justify.

224

"I like Obama because his intentions are good."

It's a Liberal meme...you get used to (think you've) hearing them...in fact, it seems like that meme is intertwined through many Liberal talking points.

Haven't you people absorbed anything I've told you all these years?  Libs can't be held to account for failing policies because their intentions were good.  It's all about FEELINGS, not facts.

225 Lincolntf, I don't have the time to debate you on the validity of RedState, but it is also on Ballot Access News.

226 Libs can't be held to account for failing policies because their intentions were good.  It's all about FEELINGS, not facts.

Posted by: R. Hudson Limbaugh at December 26, 2011 12:50 PM (qxsyW)

Pretty much nails it RushBabe!

227 Hey all: I made a much better "three-legs-of-the-stool" post a couple of weeks ago...I'm going to violate my own attempt to be short here, but it was a response to a very thoughtful inquiry from chemjeff from the CAC poll dump thread a couple of weeks ago - he asked me if I favored "maximilist individual liberty" as he did, or "fairness for all", which is a typical liberal aim as he saw it. Here it is: ********** Abortion (my big social issue): I'm solidly pro-choice. I believe it's a woman's right to decide if she carries a baby to term or not, and more than that, I believe in her "negative right" to keep the government from telling her she must. But some people believe that because life begins at conception, this is immoral at best and murder at worst. What is the "maximum individual liberty" position on this issue? I say it's liberty for the mother, others might say it's liberty for the fetus. That's a pretty big one for me. Taxes/economics: I'm for the best balance between a capitalism that rewards entrepreneurship and success (I'm a sole prop business making it happen on my own every day, most days 12-14 hours, and I love what I do) and provides some sort of social safety net for those unable to work, laid off, elderly, or severely ill and broke, while having clear regulations so everyone knows the rules of the game and the penalties for breaking them. I wouldn't call this "fairness for all" - some people just don't get it and aren't going to do as well as others. I'm fine with that. But I'm not philosophically opposed to some of my tax dollars going to the safety net I described above. I don't see that as an infringement on my individual liberty. I still get up every day and do pretty much whatever the hell I want, and have a good life, better than most people on earth, and I'm grateful. YMMV, but again, calling this "fairness for all" I think distorts simple language. I want what works best for as many as possible. It can never be "all." Foreign policy/national security: "Maximum individual liberty" means what here? Does a fairly large government entity like DHS provide maximum liberty for Americans? Some say it does - after all, we haven't had a massive attack since 9/11 (yes, correlation doesn't equal causation, noted). Others (libertarians, pacifists) would argue differently. I'm a moderate on these issues. I'm pro-Israel, yet anti-neoconservative. I supported the Iraq War on WMD's basis as a threat to Israel's existence, not on a geostrategic or democracy-mission basis. I do believe that what we do has an effect on others in the world (no, this isn't Ron Paul saying "we caused 9/11!"), but that we have to protect ourselves first and foremost, and when we take action, we should weigh possible reactions as best we can - then act and deal with it. I do believe there are radical Muslims who want to kill us. I believe our strategy should be to find the radicals and incapacitate them without turning more regular-folk Muslims against us, which is admittedly difficult, but something I think we need to figure out better ways to do unless we're prepared to turn the whole region to glass. Which we're not. It's fucking sticky, and smarter people than I haven't figured it out yet. Look at Pakistan. ****** I admittedly owe Joffen a better and deeper economic explanation...but I really do have to hang with family now or I'm going to get in trouble with the wife! Joffen, I'll get there, promise. Confession: I'm also not nearly as smart or informed as I make myself sound (insert joke here). I'm just some schlub who reads a lot.

228 I'll try to refrain from being a complete asshole but since when did we start chumming around with an individual who's ideals match those in power who want to destroy this country?

229 232 @ A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really! - We're all liberals. We just have different definitions of liberty. Posted by: bernverdnardo at December 26, 2011 12:48 PM (xXhWA) ***** This. You read my mind, actually - see post 237 above.

230 Typical liberal who through lifestyle choices has expensive insurance choices and wants her medical supplemented by me. I have no desire to help her.

231 My lovely wife got me a Playbook for Christmas. There's an App called iObama that I installed. You can type in anything, including SCOAMF (in full), and an animated Obama will repeat it in his voice. Hours of fun.

232 Genocide? 

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 26, 2011 12:32 PM (i6RpT)

Worse than the holocaust, which never happened anyway.

233 I admittedly owe Joffen a better and deeper economic explanation...but I really do have to hang with family now or I'm going to get in trouble with the wife! Joffen, I'll get there, promise. ---- Fair enough. There are glaringly obvious holes in your basic philosophy and what you say you want, but you are a liberal after all. Heh. Anyway, have fun with the family and Merry Boxing Day.

234
It's pronounced Cholocaust.

235 It's not up for debate Boone, RedState has made their position perfectly clear. Doesn't mean that nothing they write is true, just that it's been through the anti-Romney mill before Redstate will allow it on their site.

236 "I like Obama because his intentions are good."

No..no they're not. He's the fucking anti christ. He is a suicide bomber on his run to destroy the country, because nobody in their right mind with an inkling of how to build a strong prosperous nation would do the things he is doing.  There isn't a god damn benevolent thing inside him.

237 Hey, a fellow Moron is a celebrity on youtube!

238
Posted by: A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really!






You misspelled Romney.  R-O-M-N-E-Y, not R-E-A-L-L-Y.

However, we're sure he appreciates the enthusiastic support indicated by the trailing exclamation point.

239 "I like Obama because his intentions are good."

No..no they're not. He's the fucking anti christ. He is a suicide bomber on his run to destroy the country, because nobody in their right mind with an inkling of how to build a strong prosperous nation would do the things he is doing.  There isn't a god damn benevolent thing inside him.

Posted by: Berserker at December 26, 2011 12:59 PM (FMbng)

^^^This

240 Posted by: Berserker at December 26, 2011 12:59 PM (FMbng)

This.

With the addition of:

Thank God Obama isn't nearly as smart as he thinks he is, and that he is also incredibly lazy and ignorant, or we would be even more fucked than we are already.

241 Which is worse?  Finding a lump of coal or a Ron Paul book in your stocking?

Hint: It's the one that makes you cry.

242 Ahem..... On the first day of Xmas my crazy wife gave to me.. A death threat On the second day of Xmas my crazy wife gave to me... 2 grey hairs and a death threat

243 @232: You're definitely unto something, there. So-called Conservatives are the true Liberals, because WE "conserve" the hard-fought liberty won for us by the American Revolution. The Left are nothing more than the Loyalists that today, as then, look down on the masses as the "rabble," the "peasants," the uppity ignorant "bitter clingers" that don't defer to their "betters." In other words, the Statists that hated American liberty then and hate it now. They wish to "progress" straight back to the days the benevolent Lords told the peasants where to live, what to eat, what to believe, and even what words they were allowed to use. Or, what light bulbs they are allowed to use. In other words, the Left are the Reactionaries that Strive to reassertion the power of the State over the free men that won the war to preserve their rights that was their birthright as Englishmen in 1783. Don't think it's a coincidence Canada is more "liberal" than America: after all, that is where the Statists fled after they lost the War for American Independence.

244 "252 Ahem..... On the first day of Xmas my crazy wife gave to me.. A death threat On the second day of Xmas my crazy wife gave to me... 2 grey hairs and a death threat Posted by: Navycopjoe at December 26, 2011 01:03 PM (Rw4Ik)" No poon for Christmas, eh?

245 254. Nah, I'm still in the frozen tundra know as providence RI Can't wait to get back home tonight

246 247 Hey, a fellow Moron is a celebrity on youtube!

Posted by: Joffen at December 26, 2011 01:00 PM (zLeKL)

Ain't it a bitch when gravity punches the NoX turbo boost?

247 I've started to resign myself to the idea of Romney and am looking at the upcoming US Senate primaries.

First up is Florida on Jan 31st. Rep. Connie Mack appears to be a heavy favorite. He seems like a solid conservative.

248 On the third day of Christmas my crazy wife gave to me...
3 poison cocktails
2 grey hairs and a death threat.

249 Don't think it's a coincidence Canada is more "liberal" than America: after all, that is where the Statists fled after they lost the War for American Independence.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 01:09 PM (niZvt)

Pretty much, CC -- and I lay the blame at the feet of Trudeau.

250 fixed link

251
  I submit to you that Liberal is a greater threat to conservative stance than the bomb throwers. His agenda is "nuanced"and cloaked in feelgood.  But it remains unchanged. The analogy is William Ayers--his agenda remains unaltered, its merely being pursued sans bombs.

  Dig below the surface here, and out it pops. So spare me any more explanation.

252

237

1. As you yourself describe it, abortion is a choice between the death of an infant, premature as it may be, for the convenience of the mother.

2. We've hear that argument before, usually from someone who takes every deduction, exemption, and credit they're entitled to.

3. Do you grasp the importance of not having to fight a war on our own soil?.. Even after the horror of 9/11? The idea of waiting for an attack is utterly insane. I do not want to see my fellow countrymen and women lying in pools of blood.

253 Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 01:09 PM (niZvt)

There is a fundamental ignorance in their belief that the collective can have any freedom. It is the individual, and only the individual, that is free. The collective is antithetical to freedom, but it is alluring for many.

And this is exactly why I look at my small (and dwindling) number of liberal friends and think, "Wow, you are just really fucking clueless and stupid!"

Unfortunately, I am saying it out loud more and more.

P.S. At least they aren't 2001: A Space Odyssey fans.

254 Insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over, hoping for a different result. Liberal policy is pretty much the same. They never bother to think that the thing they did to fix the last problem caused the current one.

255 Good afternoon (well, morning here and on the west Coast) morons.  'Hope you had a wonderful holiday. 

We had a nice day yesterday, despite Mr Y-not's (really bad) cold.  Fortunately, his taste buds were still functional so the wild boar stew I made (which took about four hours to make as I braised it) was not wasted. 

He loved his Phil Esposito framed jersey and even seems to be looking forward to going to the IHL game next Saturday.  (Or he hid it well.)

Wonderful gifts from him as well, but one of my favorites is a high altitude baked goods cookbook. 

Take care and enjoy the day!  If you feel like being mildly irritated (and are a Perry or Gingrich supporter) go over to RedState and read Moe Lane's article explaining how VA GOP did change the rules last month. 

256 Lincoln, sorry you ate so butthurt for Romney.

257 "I like Obama because his intentions are good."

No..no they're not. He's the fucking anti christ. He is a suicide bomber on his run to destroy the country, because nobody in their right mind with an inkling of how to build a strong prosperous nation would do the things he is doing.  There isn't a god damn benevolent thing inside him.

Posted by: Berserker at December 26, 2011 12:59 PM (FMbng)

^^^This

Posted by: ErikW at December 26, 2011 01:01 PM (kg9Aj)

Concur.  Obama is the Nightrider.  He ain't here to help old ladies cross the street:

"You should see the damage, bronze. Huh? metal damage, brain damage. Heheheh. You listen bronze. I am the Nightrider. I'm a fuel injected suicide machine. I am the rocker, I am the roller, I am the out-of-controller! I'm the Nightrider, baby, and we ain't never coming back!  The Soros Toecutter - he knows who I am. I am the Nightrider! I am the chosen one. The mighty hand of vengeance, sent down to strike the unroadworthy! I'm hotter than a rollin' dice. Step right up, chum, and watch the kid lay down the rubber road, ride to freedom!"

258 Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2011 01:19 PM (5H6zj)

Wild boar stew?

That's just cruel. One of my all-time great taste sensations was a ham made from a sow that a friend shot on his ranch. That was followed closely by the bacon he had made from it.

259
Is their a law that says all vending machines must be stocked with 75% of stuff nobody likes?

260 "P.S. At least they aren't 2001: A Space Odyssey fans." It could be worse; they could be Dune fans.

261  (Tell you what else - I think employer-based health care should be scrapped and we should ALL be in an individual market because we'd have a better shot at knowing what everything actually costs, but that's "radical", right?...)

Yes, for guys on your side of the aisle, trying to come up with an accurate assessment of costs based on the market is completely radical. In fact, I'd say that you've embarked on a dangerously conservative line of thinking that will eventually have you reading (and appreciating) Hayek and Friedman.

Just keep at it. You'll be over here with us on the Dark Side before you know it. And more thing: we have cookies.

_{^{Paid for by the Koch brothers. Heh}}.

262 Man, that dude in that video had to be right on the edge of lethal BAC. --- True.

263 Wild boar stew?

Yep, it was wild boar agro dulce.  The version I made had apricots and currants in it.  The boar was from Fossil Farms (an online supplier of game meats). 

I hadn't made wild boar before.  It was a darker meat than I'd expected.  Almost more like beef than pork, imho.

I think I'll braise the rest of the roast in port.  Seems to like the sweeter flavors. 

264 "Is their a law that says all vending machines must be stocked with 75% of stuff nobody likes?" Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2011 01:24 PM (G2mAp) We're working on it!

265
And the jerkoffs who stock the supermarket bread shelves.

Why do they always buy the same amount of the types of bread that nobody likes and everybody likes?

Every week they run out of the good/popular bread and all that's left is a bunch of loaves of stupid bread. I know they end up throwing it all out. So why do they keep stocking it?

266 Would have been much cooler if you had shot the wild boar with a long bow. That's really love...

267 I submit to you that Liberal is a greater threat to conservative stance than the bomb throwers. His agenda is "nuanced"and cloaked in feelgood. But it remains unchanged. The analogy is William Ayers--his agenda remains unaltered, its merely being pursued sans bombs. Dig below the surface here, and out it pops. So spare me any more explanation. -------- It's only dangerous for those that aren't well-versed in logic and reason, aka conservatism.

268
I think old ladies are in charge of this stuff.

My grandma was always out of touch with what people liked. She always bought crappy candy and the worst cookies.

269 278 Would have been much cooler if you had shot the wild boar with a long bow.

I know!

One of my husband's employees (a woman) is a crossbow hunter.  I don't know if she's brought down a boar, but I know she gets deer with it. 

270 Well, now we learn that as the global insolvency wave finally moves to China, a bankruptcy is now called something even less scary: "deferred loan payments"

2012: Year of the China Syndrome

271 #218

What other basis do you have? There is no articulated philosophy, just a lot of happy horseshit slogans and emotional button pushes.

You want to move towards a genuine open market for medical services but like Obamacare, which does everything possible to further obfuscate and distance health care from free market principles? And is by Obama's own admission a trojan for complete nationalization?

I don't know about where you're from but where I come from a 26-year old is far into adulthood. The idea that the average able bodied 26 year old should be a dependent upon his parents is absurd. A formula for an infantilized society. If you want a legal provision for dependency by young adults with serious medical conditions, it needs to be specified as such. Without a situation meriting special mitigation it's just a really, really bad policy.

Ask yourself, why did this need to be such a doorstop mound of paper. Why not several dozen separate bills that could be reasonably debated on an individual basis. Gosh, you don't suppose it's because they don't want anyone to be able to read it all and find all of the interesting little 'other' items buried in there?

I regard any doorstop legislation as suspect, no matter who proposes it. I would arbitrarily reject any proposal that cannot be laid out in in fewer than a hundred pages, not counting listings of pure data that wouldn't introduce any surprises.

272 One of my husband's employees (a woman) is a crossbow hunter. I don't know if she's brought down a boar, but I know she gets deer with it. --- My mother-in-law is a bow hunter. She and my father-in-law always get competitive during deer season.

273
Rum cake really pisses me off.

274
It's soggy and tart.

Can't stand it. They knew I hated it, yet they still bought it for my birthday cake a couple of times.

275 It's soggy and tart. Can't stand it. They knew I hated it, yet they still bought it for my birthday cake a couple of times. --- Maybe they hate you.

276
Yellow or Marble cake with chocolate frosting.

That's what I like. But no, they bought the friggin rum cake.

a.k.a. italian cake

277   Grin and bear it, soothie.

  Or accidentally drop it on the floor.

278
They did it on purpose.

279 "It's only dangerous for those that aren't well-versed in logic and reason, aka conservatism." Spoken like a true Tory, Joffen. You just hate all the rabble that owe their loyalty to George Washington and spout all that stuff about unalienable rights endowed by God, don't ya?

280 The boar was from Fossil Farms (an online supplier of game meats). 

Posted by: Y-not at December 26, 2011 01:26 PM (5H6zj)

From Boonton, New Jersey.

281
Once in a while they'd bring home chunky peanut butter and sometimes raspberry Fluff just to force me to have something different.

I cannot work with chunky peanut butter.

282 It could be worse; they could be Dune fans.

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 01:24 PM (niZvt)

The movie (unwatchable) or the book (a truly great novel)?

283 "Butthurt"? You conspiracy tards are the ones crying like little bitches because your candidates failed to meet the basic requirements to be on the ballot.

284 I cannot work with chunky peanut butter.

That's the only kind I can eat on a sammich.  We can trade.

285 Spoken like a true Tory, Joffen. You just hate all the rabble that owe their loyalty to George Washington and spout all that stuff about unalienable rights endowed by God, don't ya? --- You sure got my number! Kinda related...I was looking into my family tree and found something really cool. My ancestors were Loyalists and moved to Upper Canada (Ontario) after the War. They helped settle Canada and for that they have an honorary Title. Not only that, but each successive generation from the 1770's to today is bestowed with that same title. So, you can call me Sir Joffen from now on.

286 ""they bought the friggin rum cake.

a.k.a. italian cake""


Yikes, my family must be bad italians, because nobody on either side of the family has anything to do with rum cake. It never makes an appearance...ever.

287

Every week they run out of the good/popular bread and all that's left is a bunch of loaves of stupid bread. I know they end up throwing it all out. So why do they keep stocking it?

Could be worse. My mom lives in the boonies and lack of competition makes the local store try to get away with interesting tactics. They keep things like bread on their shelves even when it's starting to go bad.

They might have the fresh stuff in the back, but they won't put it out until they've gotten rid of the old stuff.

And by the time they put out the "new" stuff, it's only got a couple days left til it goes bad...

 

288 I've got to say, this whole "26 year old 'children' on their parents insurance" thing just weirds me out.  Liberal Thought Process:

14 year olds should be able to get an abortion whenever they please without parental permission. After all, their dad might 'kill' them.

18 year olds should have the right to vote, since they 'might' be drafted and they ought to have a say in that.

25 years old?  Poor little baby, how can he possibly get a job and pay for his own health insurance?  I mean, he graduated HIGH SCHOOL seven years earlier, if he went to college he should have graduated that THREE years ago, hell there's a decent possibility that he is out of grad school.  But poor wee tot can't be expected to pay his own way vis a vis health care. 

Fuckit, if the bastard can't manage that he clearly can't manage the franchise. Voting and drinking ages ought to be raised to 26.  Driving?  Nope, not till you're 21.  If we're gonna infantilize, let's go all the fucking way.

As far as I can tell, liberal/progressive policy seems to lead to turning everyone, from age 6 to death, into perpetual teenagers. Eternal partying, never a trace of responsibility, all under the benevolent gaze of Big Daddy Gubmint. 

289
That's the only kind I can eat on a sammich.

Then you must be making your sandwiches on a kaiser or bulkie roll or something, because chunky don't spread on soft slices

290 So Dune the movie was crap?  That's a relief.  I couldn't follow it and thought it was me being dense or something.  I'll try the book.

291 The MOVIE, Charlie brown's butt plug! Painful to watch: ponderous, full of ugliness, a plot understandable only to the fans, and bad acting. Only thing missing was Jar Jar Binks.

292 As far as I can tell, liberal/progressive policy seems to lead to turning everyone, from age 6 to death, into perpetual teenagers. Eternal partying, never a trace of responsibility, all under the benevolent gaze of Big Daddy Gubmint. --- Not only that, they accept more government control over their lives without question. Why do you think Canada had the Occupiers but never the Tea Party? Ontario got hit with a 13 percent sales tax. You bet your ass they took it lying down! Canada makes me sick sometimes. I'm glad I don't live there anymore.

293 worst candy ever? horehound candy , or maybe sen sens?

294 Also: feh!

295

And by the time they put out the "new" stuff, it's only got a couple days left til it goes bad...

This is what I mean. Why don't they adjust their order to fit their customers' demand schedule???

296 and fruit cake? just use as a door stop as originally intentioned

297 Ace has awoken.

298
It never makes an appearance...ever.

I think it's an invention of Boston-area ginnees.

299 Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2011 01:46 PM (4q5tP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 26, 2011 01:46 PM (niZvt)

I haven't done a careful analysis, but Dune may belong in the Top Ten Worst Movies Of All Time.

Although Sean Young looked nice in a stillsuit.

300 thanks Joffen. i wonder where all the un read sentences go? is there a graveyard specifically designated for them?

301 Sure, right after I post a rant, the Big Cheese posts.  It's a plot I tells ya!

302
  Either/or, Willow. Neither meet the criteria of edible.

303

Ace has awoken.

 

Just keep him away from water and whatever you do, don't feed him after midnight.

304

This is what I mean. Why don't they adjust their order to fit their customers' demand schedule???

Posted by: soothsayer at December 26, 2011 01:47 PM (G2mAp)

Sorry. Sold out of TurboMan weeks ago.  How about his sidekick Booster instead?

305 I'll try to refrain from being a complete asshole but since when did we start chumming around with an individual who's ideals match those in power who want to destroy this country?

Posted by: ErikW at December 26, 2011 12:53 PM (kg9Aj)

Epic fail on the asshole part, Erik. I don't agree with much of what he said, but I have no problem having a respectful discussion with him, and I'd definitely chum around with him.

306 OK, Joffen, I can't figure you out: what IS your political orientation? Are you Canadian but currently in America??

307 thanks Joffen. i wonder where all the un read sentences go? is there a graveyard specifically designated for them? --- You ever have a good discussion going and you make (in your opinion) a good point and that's when everyone goes to the new thread? Happens to me all the time.

308 183 You know, I have to say that if the Virginia ballot signatures issue is something cooked up by the Romney campaign . . . GOOD FOR THEM!

Callous, yes, but that means they might actually be able to go head-to-head against Obama's electoral fraud machine with a chance of at least holding their own. Too many nice decent honest Republicans are like a Faberge Egg in a wood chipper when dealing with the Democrats. (I don't understand why, exactly: the Dems have used the same playbook since the Andrew Jackson administration.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 26, 2011 12:03 PM (rCEvh)

Not really. Cheating against the stupid party is one thing, but you'll never be able to out-cheat the evil party. Worse, you're conceding the battlefield to them by joining them on it.

Even worse: It shows a guy who utterly despises the 11th Commandment of Reagan and is willing to deploy any and all tactics to take down fellow Republicans. In short: More proof that Romney could not give a shit less about the GOP.

309 "I like Obamacare. I'm glad it passed."

Well congratulations, you've just taken over enough of the private sector that you won't be generating enough taxable income to fund our government, even before this massive expansion.

Gee, If you really think health care is a human right, that sounds like something we should have a Constitutional amendment about.  Otherwise, none of this is legal.  Unfortunately, Democrats don't believe in laws.

Kid, you're not liberal. I highly doubt your youth looked anything like mine did.  You people are obviously something else entirely if you suddenly think "The Man" is your best friend.   

310 "I've got to say, this whole "26 year old 'children' on their parents insurance" thing just weirds me out."

Extra weird: lefties don't think of children as humans (with human rights) until they can have sex with them.

311 "Although Sean Young looked nice in a " Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 26, 2011 01:48 PM (nEUpB) I'll bet back in the day she looked even better in a birthday suit. Crazy, yes, but even crazy can sound pretty good right after you shot pecker snot all over her uvula! (Was that insensitive? )

312 And the most ridiculous thing about the "don't cut down Christmas holiday trees" is, when you point out the existence of tree farms, they will respond with, "Yes, I know, but you just shouldn't cut them down."  How do you defeat people to whom logic means nothing and wishful thinking means everything?

313

Re A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really!

I have a liberal friend who is committed to fiscal conservativism in his personal finances, (unnecessarily) encourages me to vote for fiscally conservative candidates in local elections, yet votes Democrat (here in California, no less!) in statewide and Federal elections. (He's also indicated he's thinking about joining us in fleeing CA for AZ, to escape the former's financial and regulatory Armageddon brought on by 30 years of liberal policies. Go figure.)

This makes my head hurt. I truly cannot understand the dissonance between his views on things he can see and influence directly (personal and city finances) and those he cannot (state and Federal finances). I have hopes of getting him to see the contradiction, and ultimately to come over to the dark side.

Last, I really appreciate A Liberal AoSHQ Reader, Really!'s open-mindedness and courtesy in expressing his views. Usually we conservatives get compared unfavorably with Judas Iscariot, so it's refreshing to encounter someone from the other side of the aisle who doesn't think we want to BBQ babies and push granny off a cliff simply because we point out that we can't afford everything we might like to do.

314 Rum cake really pisses me off.

It's soggy and tart.

Can't stand it. They knew I hated it, yet they still bought it for my birthday cake a couple of times.

There, there.. Come to mama.. She'll kiss it, and make it all better.

*sigh*

That someone would bring me a rum cake.

315 237 thanx for your thoughts, I will be brief You say that you don't believe taxes to fund the welfare state are a restriction of your liberty. You don't believe legal abortion infringes on the liberty of the unborn. Fine. Honestly this sounds like a rationalization for your policy preferences by simply declaring that these things are somehow harmonious with the principles of liberty. They aren't. It is more correct to say that you favor infringing on people's liberty if it means your policy goals are achieved. If I am wrong then I challenge you to come up with a self consistent definition of liberty that does justify your policy preferences. I don't think you can.

316 So, I'm at my parents' house.  Thought I'd stay a couple of days longer than was absolutely necessary, since I don't see them much, but they're out buying my ingrate pinko brother a car (the guy he gay-married in June tried to kill his cat, so he and the cats moved into the basement last week and has done nothing but bitch about them since).  I asked if I could have a key to the house so I could go for a walk while they're gone--sun's out, I like to take pictures--and it set off a major shitstorm about keys disappearing that I don't quite understand.

Whoops.

I didn't bring anything to read or sew because I was planning on spending time, and now I'm bored.  Dammit.

317 Voting and drinking ages ought to be raised to 26.  Driving?  Nope, not till you're 21.  If we're gonna infantilize, let's go all the fucking way.

I need a "J Random Dude for Congress" bumpersticker.

318 Heather,

That sucks that you are caught up in the drama.  I hate to say it, but it sounds like you may need to keep your valuables where your brother can't get to them.  There may be more that your parents haven't admitted.

319 My cousin lasted 9 days before being thrown back in jail for a parole violation.  I win the pool.

320 HeatherRadish, the holidays can be a lot of fun, yes?

chemjeff, missed you on the ONT last night, but throwing my 2 cents worth in, the Ruger is a fine little gun and the .380 is quite capable if she is using hollowpoints. Kudos to the bf for getting it for her, shows that he trusts her and he means her no harm. B-I-L bought Younger Sister a Ruger in .40 for Christmas.

321 they bought the friggin rum cake

Yow, soothsayer, who peed in your cornflakes this morning?

322 I just called my mom to tell her soothies story of the rum cake. In our family everyone has "their" birthday cake. Mine is boiled date with coconut broiler frosting. (Please do not judge) Mom's  was mystery cake, with coffee chocolate frosting. Fairly easy to make. Aunties was Sour cream nut cake of some kind thats hard to make. For a while, every year gramma woul.d get mixed up and make aunties cake for mom, going to a shitload of extra trouble but gauranteed to make mom cry as she hated sour cream nut cake. HATED IT. And nobody seemed to retain this knowledge as anything but "SHe made a big fuss over the cake she must love it."

I ahd to make repeated calls to keep that sour cream nut cake from happening. Finally had to put a note on the recipe M-- HATES IT!!!! DO NOT MAKE!!! ONLY CLAUDIA LIKES!!!!

Soothie you are not alone. It made her cry, and it was done out of love.

323 @328 - Hey chemjeff. Returning to the scene of the crime here... I'll be brief too - I'm not trying to one-up you on the "liberty!" front. I said right off the bat that I didn't think one single overarching first principle of mine accurately informs every single one of my policy choices, and that the details matter. You set up the "liberty vs fairness" question, which was a bit of a loaded frame, I thought - I was just responding to it as best I could because I appreciated the engagement. But in the case of abortion, there are competing liberties at stake: the mother, and the fetus. It's not the only case. One person's "liberty" can be another person's government tyranny. That's all I was saying, ultimately. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

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There's several e-reader forums, and lots of free collections sites http://www.gutenberg.org/.

There's been lotsa discussion here Sunday Mornings, you'll find them with the "while you were passed out after discussing Ron Paul with a hoboes skull" box checked.
Please note before reviewing that >90% of the crap people complained about simply is not true.

325 Oops, wrong thread.

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