1 until I see an uncensored hayley pic this is all just conjecture.

2

Ace, you sir fricking rock.

3 What do you expect??  She's a pale skanky assed looking ginger...she has no soul and is probably a whore....

4 Haley's pic gave me an Anthony.

5 This is quite cogent.  I had thought you were drunk already,

6 Well, like an Anthony, but much, much bigger.

7 She deserves our justice, after waiting for her hacker to be exposed for all this time.

Hayley Williams doesn't deserve only justice.  Hayley Williams deserves HOT STEEL WEINER JUSTICE.

8 Ace, did you get me email postulating that Weiner had a second, anonymous, twitter account? That would explain how the yfrog thing happened... He switched devices to take a camera shot because his laptop, whatever, didn't have a camera... But he goofed and hit send instead of transferring the dic pic to his laptop. It's not hard to believe he had the yfrog account set up for quick posts of picttures from his blackberry. I dunno... It just seems reckless that he would use his official account for these cyber-cheating sessions.

9 I'd hit it, like a hacker accessing a Congressman's social media accounts.

10 Every time Weiner opens his mouth he is digging the hole deeper and deeper.  Just doesn't know when to quit. He is an arrogant media whore who stuck his dick out and got caught.  Honestly, it's not much of a dick at all.

11 Great song.  Great album.

12 What I would like to know is if all the watercarriers for Weiner really, truly think that he was the victim of a hack.. And what steps are being taken to right this wrong?

13
are on the hunt for hackers, ex-girlfriends, horny staffers and who knows what else

Oh deer lord. May I suggest another suspect? Occham and his razor?

No, of course not. I didn't go to an Ivy League school, so my betters inform me that I'm stupid. Fine, but I can do math, so there.

14 All this because Weiner typed "@" instead of "d"

That's it.  One letter.  One teenie, weenie fuckup.

There is no goddamned X-Files mystery here.

15 It's like Tommy Lee Jones said to Wesley Snipes in U.S. Marshals: "Give it up, Anthony.  You're caught."

16 Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 10:49 PM (bAySe)

No need for second account. you don't even need a yfrog account as it's the default for twitpic. The person would have to have known Weiner's yrag email which is randomly generated and we don't even know if he had one because it isn't required to post pics to yfrog.

17 I must be a good judge of character or something because I always disliked him. He comes across as a know-it-all who is unjustifiably in love with himself. Awhile back, someone on this blog, probably Ace, said that he would be the next Alan Grayson. Because that's just what an obnoxious little creep he is. Every time he appears on a national tv show over this wienergate thing, he looks like a bigger asshole. I'm not a fan of Jon Stewart, but if I were Stewart, I wouldn't brag about the association.

18 I read where Kruiser will be pushing for a Pulitzer for you.....

...it's in the bag, bay-beee

19 I dunno... It just seems reckless that he would use his official account for these cyber-cheating sessions.

But Weiner is a super-genius.  He would never, ever get caught by we proles.

20 Meh,those are minor league titties even without the censoring.

21 Remember a couple days ago when only Ace and a couple others were keeping this story alive? Well done, you magnificent bastard.

22

Looks like ace had that drink or 5.

11:30 am

Coad.

23 not for nothin'...but Haley has a nice little set

24 All this because Weiner typed "@" instead of "d"

--one-handed.

25 I wanna see what picture was DM'ed to Weiner that caused him to need to show his, er, um, approval.

26 It's obvious that whoever hacked Hayley Wiliams also hacked Anthony Weiner. We have a serial hacker on our hands here!

27 I volunteer to be part of the waitstaff at his 1st wedding anniversary dinner in July.

I love a good horror movie.

28 Ace: Stop pranking us with your simple logic.

29 Hannity is really going to town on this, and is trying to hide his absolute glee.

30 25 I wanna see what picture was DM'ed to Weiner that caused him to need to show his, er, um, approval.

THIS!

31 Give it up Ace...I'm telling you it's not going anywhere

32 Agree with #21.  Well done,  Ace.

Be sure you always use your powers for good!

Night,  all.

33 25 Yeah,too bad the coed didn't make any mistakes.

34 http://t.co/vPSxVRL

I didn't do it.

35 That was a nice post.

36 I wanna see what picture was DM'ed to Weiner that caused him to need to show his, er, um, approval.

That's another thing.  Getting the cops involved w/ subpoenas and whatnot mean that they can get their hands on who-knows-what from yfrog and twitter's servers.

37

wow, interesting example Ace, I enjoy Paramore's music btw

38

I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

This story seems to follow occam's razor.

 

A powerful arrogant man with a sense of invincibility sends a picture of his Hanes repressed hard on to a 21 year old girl he may or may not be having an affair with.

He made a typing error on twitter and sent it out publically, then tried to rescind it. He then told several stories, all of which were proven to be lies not only by evidence, but by the fact he moved onto another story/excuse.

And now he's at the point where he's saying, in so many words, that it is in fact his dick..

What more is there to be had? Why are we even debating the hacking issue. It's Wednesday, we got over than hump days ago. Why back track over something that's been disproven by weiner's statements?

39 I'm not as think as you drunk I am, Wolf.

Pussy cane.

40
Little story I posted on another thread about this business of overthinking the technical AND conspiratorial aspects of this story.

Friend of mine was once conned by one of America's top conmen -- a guy who's been on all the t.v. shows, notorious guy in law enforcement. Funny thing is, she had him credit-checked and even investigated by a very wily detective, and tested CLEAN.

But the thing is, I knew from the moment I met him that he was bad news. How? I took one look at him. Sleaze and lies dripping from every pore.

My friend had essentially picked a dead stinking rat out of the gutter and sent it off to the DNA lab to test whether it was a golden goose. Never mind the maggots, the rot, the stench, the slimy fur, the ringtail -- let's send it out for some high-tech investigation.

Sometimes a dead rat is just a dead rat.

(By the way, yes, my friend was a bit of a gold digger and wanted to believe this guy was her ticket to riches. It's that wanting to believe thing.)

41 25 Yeah,too bad the coed didn't make any mistakes.

Cheer up my man, I call 3 months before she poses for Playboy.

Good times, baby.  Good.  TIMES.

42 I really thought that it would be Rachel Maddow tweeting a pic of her dick first...

43 25 I wanna see what picture was DM'ed to Weiner that caused him to need to show his, er, um, approval.

Posted by: snookered at June 01, 2011 10:54 PM (jchJh)

One might not have been sent.  You need to consider this.  Yeah I fully believe this is a "tit-for-tat" situation.  However the "tat" may have been sent before the tit.

44 wanna see what picture was DM'ed to Weiner that caused him to need to show his, er, um, approval.

Yeah, i wonder what a girl with breast the size of beach balls could possibly have sent him to ellicit a dick pick

45 Watch the video of Michelle on Hannity when she gives Ace a shout out.

I think she has a creamy right then

46 I've gotta truck of horses here. Who's gonna sign for them?

47 I'm more impressed with the tits than the wiener.

48

I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

Isn't he a liberal?

49 Rocks, Well, if it was ME who was messing around... I sure would have set up a second account. If the Comley Coed had not have nuked her account, we could check the theory by looking at who else she was following. I suspect Weiner is scared shitless that 2nd account could be discovered and the world would learn what other adventures he's taken his little friend on.

50
Occham just DM'd me to say that Hayley Williams is much hotter than Weiner's weiner. And gave him a raging weiner. I certainly wouldn't kick her out of my bed...

51
It just seems reckless that he would use his official account for these cyber-cheating sessions.
Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 10:49 PM

As Weiner very defensively stated to Wolf Blitzer, this was NOT his official account. He's using that as an excuse to not get the FBI involved.

52 Wait.  Wait!  WAIT!!11!  Was Hayley Williams boyfriend none other than...Anthony Weiner?!!?

He jilted her.  For Huma.  She waited, and plotted, for revenge.  Until finally, at the perfect moment, when he was watching hockey, she tweeted the dicpic, which she already had, using his account, which password she already had!!

Case closed, bitches!!!11!

53

I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

He's been writing at the Bigs complaining about media bias..

Ace will have him running back to HuffPo

54 Well, if it was ME who was messing around... I sure would have set up a second account. If the Comley Coed had not have nuked her account, we could check the theory by looking at who else she was following.

I suspect Weiner is scared shitless that 2nd account could be discovered and the world would learn what other adventures he's taken his little friend on.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 10:58 PM (bAySe)

Maybe he has 30 accounts. They aren't needed to explain what happened.

55 I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

This story seems to follow occam's razor.
...
Posted by: Ben at June 01, 2011 10:56 PM (DKV43)

I don't get Strahan's obsessing either - he seems unable to accept the simplest, most likely scenario and has his tinfoil hat on. His constant repeating of 'just following the facts wherever they lead me' is Sullivan-esque.

56 What would it take to toss him off of any committees that require a security clearance? I know the D's aren't going to oust him and he probably won't resign but can the GOP kick him off committees? Dude invited mild blackmail sending junk pics off to what he thinks is a comely coed. OR even if one buys the #hacked theory he didn't bother to keep his password(s) secure. Come on GOP surely you can make the case that Weiner is now too compromised to maintain a high security clearance?

57 So, Weiner is okay with people thinking he takes pics of his little thingie and has the pic or pics on his Blackberry. As if this is a common and ordinary thing to do. So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

58 Outstanding Ace! You are a friggin pit bull, taking no bs from the story tellers.

59 While you wingnuts are obsessing over underwear, the globe is warming, the economy is tanking, and there are people dying in wars.

60 49 Rocks,

Well, if it was ME who was messing around... I sure would have set up a second account. If the Comley Coed had not have nuked her account, we could check the theory by looking at who else she was following.

I suspect Weiner is scared shitless that 2nd account could be discovered and the world would learn what other adventures he's taken his little friend on.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 10:58 PM (bAySe)

Oh I bet he nuked that account already.

61

I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

He's been writing at the Bigs complaining about media bias..

Ace will have him running back to HuffPo

Maybe he's just trying to be too thorough.  Too cute by half, i think is a saying that applies here.

It's solved Lee, accept it and move on. You don't need to keep digging at an angle for something that Weiner's statements have disproved.

62

I'm not sure why Strahan went off on this odd tangent.

he prob had a talk from some lefty friends, remember the guy is still an avowed lefty, Breitbart supporter or not, and we know how lefties are

63 I don't get Strahan's obsessing either

Maybe he's just bored with the mundane tawdriness of the weiner.

64

While you wingnuts are obsessing over underwear, the globe is warming, the economy is tanking, and there are people dying in wars.

It's cool man. Obama has a handle on that shit.

We're going to go back to this if that okay with you.

65 new webpage coming soon..........  REAL BIG DICKS, ACE AND ANDREW dot com

66 In  other news,

About Ben Shapiros new work,  whats the Jewish term for  "Uncle Tom?" (other then being a "Soros") That's all the only cards the left has since every pillar of their redistributitive authoritarian statist model has imploded from Stalin-Mao-Soviets-Cuba-S. America-Greece-Euro-Obama (to name only some).  Everywhere their ideology has been tried to any real degree bankruptcy and bloodshed soon follow.  So you can hardly blame them for playing the

*your a traitor
*your a hater/phobe/idiot/evil/bought off

cards because they really don't have anything else they can say that hasn't been thoroughly proven false-wrong-dangerous over and over and over again.

67 Btw, whatever came of the AmEx twitter hack about the planned parenthood Retweet?

68 37

wow, interesting example Ace, I enjoy Paramore's music btw

Posted by: YRM (Go Heat, Go Canucks) at June 01, 2011 10:56 PM (UzBwz)

Yeah I enjoy their music too.  Yep, the music.  It definitely has nothing to do with the cute girl with red hair dancing around in tight clothes.

69 Zebras? This ain't friggin' Africa, you know!

70 That's not exactly the one we've been awaiting

71 So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

If he was an orgy guy, with the robes and lotions and whatnot.  Or a trucker, since a girl I know showed me a p-shot that a trucker guy sent her.

72

From Star Chamber Maid on Twitter,

 

YFrog CEO says he has no reason to believe there was a hack.

73

#Hacked! #HomeSexTapesStolen!

@TommyLee&PamelaAnderson, @PamelaAnderson&BretMichaels @ParisHilton, @KimKardashian, @RobLowe, @DustinDiamond, @JohnEdwards, @AmyFisher, @TonyaHarding, @VinceNeil, @CarriePrejean,  @KatiePrice, @KidRock, @GeneSimmons, @TomSizemore, @TilaTequila, @VerneTroyer, @Chyna

 

It's an epidemic I tells ya!

74
What I would like to know is if all the watercarriers for Weiner really, truly think that he was the victim of a hack..

Lurking Kos is pretty sickening, but you can get your answer there. Creative self-delusion is their current pastime.

75 Posted by: Serious Cat at June 01, 2011 10:58 PM (bAySe) Oh I bet he nuked that account already. Posted by: buzzion at June 01, 2011 11:02 PM (oVQFe) Oh, but at least we'd know it existed... when it was nuked... and who else he was tweeting.

76 G*ddammit, Alice....would you quit using it to shave your legs. I fucking cut myself again

77 Ace, this dovetails nicely with your piece about the new aristocracy. The swells should be allowed a few indiscretions with out YOU nosing into it. The left has established it is ok to lie about sex with Barney and Bill and Ted...... The lie is kabuki theater for the sake of the voters who might be offended by this behavior. Just my opinion. Good job afflicting the comfortable!

78 Stranahan is gazing deep into his navel.  And a certain Oronmay OggerBlay might be coming down on him a little too hard.  Especially since he's a recent convert.

79 What are you doing in this Occam guy's shower, Alice?!

80 My conspiracy? It was the Jews.


Well, it was. Well, one anyway... and we all know how crafty they are.

81
Lurking Kos is pretty sickening, but you can get your answer there. Creative self-delusion is their current pastime.

Posted by: arhooley at June 01, 2011 11:06 PM (+/eKV)

Yeah.  Completely delusional true believers plus completely cynical game-players.

82

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Repeat as necessary.  The simplest explanation is typing a "@" instead of a "d" in Twitter and sending the dicpic to the world instead of the 21 year-old Comely Coed that you would like to bone.

This is the simplest explanation possible.  Nothing else is close.

Really.  That.  Simple.

83 So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

It's a funny thing about men.  They assume that, because naughty nudity turns them on, that flashing their hideous genitalia is an equal turn-on to women.

Overall, I've not found women to be that way, but horny men aren't noted for their complex thinking ability.

84

Oh I bet he nuked that account already.

Posted by: buzzion at June 01, 2011 11:02 PM

Unfortunately for him, it's not like in Aliens. In real life, there's a big mama alien called the yfrog server, and she has a clone of every egg she's ever hatched.

85

Posted by: Rocks at June 01, 2011 10:44 PM

The second link....scroll down

86 I got dibbs on Huma after the meltdown.

87 "Yes, I know it's not as exciting as the Realization Montage in The Usual Suspects, but life usually isn't. That's why we pay clever people a great deal of money to make shit up for us to watch on a movie screen." Beautifully put! This is a major problem with our world. We are so hooked on the situational irony that pervades popular entertainment that we forget what makes it ironic in the first place: The fact that shit like that rarely happens in real life.

88 As Weiner very defensively stated to Wolf Blitzer, this was NOT his official account. He's using that as an excuse to not get the FBI involved.

Posted by: arhooley at June 01, 2011 10:59 PM (+/eKV)

Bret Baier asked him if it was his official account and he said no.   Then Bret reminded him that it said Rep. Weiner.   Of course, little weiner changed the subject as quickly as possible.   The fucker lies, and his buddies lie for for him.

89 The simplest explanation is typing a "@" instead of a "d" in Twitter and sending the dicpic to the world instead of the 21 year-old Comely Coed that you would like to bone.

This is the simplest explanation possible.  Nothing else is close.

Really.  That.  Simple.

Posted by: J.S. Bryun at June 01, 2011 11:09 PM (rqKB1)

You left one small fact out of your "explanation," Mr. Genius Razor.  The Moon was 2 days past the Last Quarter!!1!  Stick that in your theory and smoke it!

90
So, Weiner is okay with people thinking he takes pics of his little thingie and has the pic or pics on his Blackberry. As if this is a common and ordinary thing to do.
So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

I wouldn't - I'm actually horrified by the thought*. But I'm not most people. If you want to see some vile photographs, trot on over to "hot chicks with douchebags".

* Unless I lose my job and am forced to revive my pr0n career, in which case it's a job hazard. Ever hear of Wee Willy Winkler? that was me.

91 According to John Stewart, Weiner's junk isn't that big. Weiner bought a realistic dildo to place under his briefs for the flirty pics he sent out to young coeds.

This is why he doesn't want to admit anything. Its the only thing that explains why a man of his intelligence would willingly make such a PR hash of the tweet incident.

92

This whole situation just reminds me of a South Park episode for years ago.

"I didn't kill anyone, it was just some Puerto Rican Guy, what really!? Some Puerto Rican guy killed MY wife!?!! WE NEED TO FIND HIM!"

But there is no "Puerto Rican Guy." Just like there is no hacker.

93

Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 11:11 PM (TMB3S)

she ain't what she seems

94 I got dibbs on Huma after the meltdown.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 11:11 PM (TMB3S)

Shyeah, right

95 Weiner told Maddow that the photo 'maybe started out being a photo of his' but was manipulated. I'm gonna facepalm, if it turns out that a modest crop and zoom qualifies as devious manipulation.

96 Occam's Razor.

97 23 not for nothin'...but Haley has a nice little set Posted by: beedubya at June 01, 2011 10:53 PM (AnTyA)>>>>>> Meh. I've seen nicer breasts in a bucket of KFC.....

98 @86 "I got dibbs on Huma after the meltdown." You'd better go for a two-legged takedown or a leg sweep unless you got dickbeaters big enough to wrap my cankles. Oh. You said MELTdown? Nevermind.

99 still

100 "What I would like to know is if all the watercarriers for Weiner really, truly think that he was the victim of a hack.." At this point, I'm not sure it matters that all the usual suspects in the media are making up convoluted stories to cover for him. We Americans loves us a juicy scandal. And Weiner's name just makes this one even better. I'm not sure we can count on him leaving office, because the democraps are perfectly okay with smutty, stupid behavior of this type. The idea that he is behaving with worse judgement than a 12 year old, doesn't bother them at all. But we get to watch him become a national laughingstock. Manhattan liberals won't care because they are sophisticated (meaning they have no standards of conduct), but regular Americans, including some who for dem, are going to view him as the creepy, little, prick that he is.

101 I Suggest it was Congressman Wiener, in the Entertainment Room, with the iPod.

102 >>Shyeah, right >>Hillary at June 01, 2011 11:14 PM (AnTyA) I can fix her. What's your email, I'll send you a pic.

103

Ace, the legal standing issue hasn't even been discussed here.  There exists a question of fact in so much as the Twitter account in question was likely being supported by a server, phone lines and an electronic computing device i.e. a blackberry... items procured for official use with funds from the U.S. Treasury.

There is a legal nexus to the greater public here that would suggest legal standing to sue not in tort but rather to enjoin Congressman Weiner from missusing public property; property that is at Mr. Weiner's avail to assist him in his official duties as a federal employee.

If we gotz standing, we gotz subpoena.

104 Why doesn't anyone ever mention me?

105 An obnoxious progressive attack dog is now reduced to fielding questions about his penis.

Good times. 

106

KosKids' contrived theories on Weinergate hacking remind me of Rosemary Wood's explanation for the 18-1/2 minute gap on the tape with accompanying contortionist photo.

107

While you wingnuts are obsessing over underwear, the globe is warming, the economy is tanking, and there are people dying in wars.

Hey, its not our fault the Diversity Hire can't multi-task. 

DHOTUS.  Diversity Hire Of The United States

108 Even among conservatives, or those who initially doubted Rep. Weiner's bizarre story like Lee Stranahan, we're now seeing baroque theories about jilted ex-girlfriends seeking revenge.

This is why I think it's likely that Obama will be re-elected. We live in a country in which someone as repulsive, corrupt, and obviously guilty as Weiner makes people scratch their beards and go, "Hmmm. Are we entirely sure that...?"

It's something akin to battered-wide syndrome, but applicable to the ruling class. These monstrosities spend their careers screwing us, generating massive personal wealth through insider trading, and partying, and then when they bring destruction down on their own heads, the idiot serfs reflexively give them the benefit of the doubt or even defend them.

109 Ace, if you're here, I just wanna say, you are the shit!!  If I hadn't hit your tip jar last night, I'd be doing it now.  If I don't rein in my intake of cheap swill, I still may.  But, dude . . .

You.  Are.  The.  Shit. 

I love you.  I really, really do.  Even CBS just had a "the Wiener scandal" promo just now. 

Kudos.

We are not worthy.

110 What bugs me most about this is that the little shit does not hesitate to spew his fucking lies about the GOP and his collectivist party's looting of this country from the floor of the House, but he has to get all Clintony about *this*? WTF? Perhaps he actually believes the collectivist shit he spews? These pieces of shit are dangerous.

111

"The guy almost wants us to know it's his penis. That's how proud he is of it."

Is there, then, an expectation, soon, of a picture of Tony and His Trident?

112 #100 Too bad his constituents do not reside in Manhattan.  Too bad for him, that is.  It is a Democrat district, but not a no-fucking-way-he-could-lose type Democrat district.

113 This is the most fiendish set-up since Mary Jo Kopechne implicated Ted Kennedy in her suicide.

114

Attention troops;

Lee Strahan is not a conservative. He's a liberal who works for Breitbart--but a liberal all the same. Just so we are clear.

115 Boy, are those Republicans like Weiner ever disgusting.

116 112 #100 Too bad his constituents do not reside in Manhattan.  Too bad for him, that is.  It is a Democrat district, but not a no-fucking-way-he-could-lose type Democrat district. Posted by: The Cad at June 01, 2011 11:21 PM (agD4m)>>>>>> That's true for House elections, but if Cocktail Weenie runs for Mayor, Manhattan becomes a major playah....

117

For all of those who really know just how nefarious and truly disgusting Congressman Weiner has been in the media, you will hit Ace's tip jar big time.

Congressman Weiner is the Rook on the DNC's chess board and he's being taken out by the ACE of SPADES.

Hit the tip jar folks. Our ACE is peforming the most intricate and exacting political punditry Kung fu that has taken place on a political blog.

Hit the tip jar folks.

Thanks,

Ace's official Tip Jar Scowler

118 BIG difference between those two stories, Ace. We WANTED to see the Williams pic. The wiener one, not so much...

119 What Ace said.

120 It's not a curious case; it happens hundreds of thousands of times every single day.

121 I don't want to answer your questions. They are a distraction. My band released a written statement regarding the matter. I have important songs to sing. What if at a concert a member of the audience threw a pie on stage. Would I spend the next two hours singing about pies? Jackasses!

122 We WANTED to see the Williams pic. The wiener one, not so much...

Posted by: thirtyandseven at June 01, 2011 11:26 PM (xtVAI)

Speak for yourself, Francis.

_{Okay, I might be a little drunk.}

123

Weiner is using an interesting and gutsy strategy here. Under the surface he's admitting he did the deed. At the surface he's performing a stonewall as best he can. Delay is victory for him as other events will soon knock him off the radar screen.

I think he could pull this off except...what are the odds of more suggestive pics and dark-haired babe-ettes showing up?

     

124 I'm pretty good at cleaning up convoluted arguments too.

125

_{Okay, I might be a little drunk.}

Posted by: Peaches at June 01, 2011 11:28 PM (afUO

If you're saying you might have wanted to see teh weiner, you're shit-faced.

126 92

This whole situation just reminds me of a South Park episode for years ago.

"I didn't kill anyone, it was just some Puerto Rican Guy, what really!? Some Puerto Rican guy killed MY wife!?!! WE NEED TO FIND HIM!"

But there is no "Puerto Rican Guy." Just like there is no hacker.

Posted by: Cashin at June 01, 2011 11:13 PM (wY3Ne)

The better comparison is O.J. searching for the "real killer."

127 Does Emily Miller make sense?

128 ACE - YOu my friend deserve a Nobel Award for COmmon Sense. And the follow up Elvis COstello. BRILLIANTLY PLAYED! Mr Mustard in the Library with the candlestick, some tapioca, an open wifi and an intent after too much vodka in the AM to be nefarious salutes ya mate!

129

Goddamit.  I swear I did not read one single comment before posting as Sir Wm. of Ockham above (note teh spelling <> Occam).  I mean, WTF, am I just slow, or am I just unimaginat... um, okay wait.

Big Tony, I need some help here...

130 Weiner should just blame it on a 'scary looking black man.'

131 Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

no, if anyone wants to see it, they see it in person.

132

Really.  That.  Simple.

Posted by: J.S. Bryun at June 01, 2011 11:09 PM (rqKB1)

You left one small fact out of your "explanation," Mr. Genius Razor.  The Moon was 2 days past the Last Quarter!!1!  Stick that in your theory and smoke it!

Posted by: FUBAR

Furthermore, the correct expression of Occam's Razor is in Latin! "Quando podeces te regi eorum fecerunt!"

133 Sure would love to see Barney Miller tackle this investigation.

134 The best part of that south park vid, was the camera panning to OJ and Gary Condit while Mr. Stoch's monologue was shouting "MURDERER!!!!" and "LIAR!!!"

135 Are we doomed as a country? Clinton couldn't define the word "is" and the msm gave him a pass and by extension so did the country. Weiner can't even identify his own junk and he is also going to get a pass. Worse, we let people like this define our future. The economy is literally about to implode and nobody seems to give a fuck about anything accept who is the next American Idol. This country is circling the bowl.

136 When will be the best time to inform Huma that she and Weiner were never
legally married?

137 by vid i mean episode, damn booze

138 Weiner's district likely won't turn GOP, but it can sure turn Not Weiner. See, that's the step beyond just diminishing his arrogant prickitude such that he's ineffectual. Surely he has developed enemies (or competitors, at least) from the Left. You think they wouldn't like his job in this upcoming double-dip recession?

So he gets replaced by another Lib. At least this dishonest, smart-mouthed, acid-tongued Progressive doesn't enjoy the fruits of his assholery.

139

#137

 ... about 7 days ago ...

140 Hmmm...the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one? I like it! Maybe it oughta become a razor or something.

141 137: Thats a good point, under what fucked up religion is BJ Clinton an ordained minister?

142 "Thats a good point, under what fucked up religion is BJ Clinton an ordained minister?" Islam.

143 When will be the best time to inform Huma that she and Weiner were never legally married?

Posted by: Slick Willie

After the press conference with his boyfriend?

144 Well said #141

145

Posted by: JackStraw at June 01, 2011 11:38 PM (TMB3S)

Its natural to react less to things that happen again and again. Even a stupid horse eventually ignores a gun going off near its head.

146 127 92

This whole situation just reminds me of a South Park episode for years ago.

"I didn't kill anyone, it was just some Puerto Rican Guy, what really!? Some Puerto Rican guy killed MY wife!?!! WE NEED TO FIND HIM!"

But there is no "Puerto Rican Guy." Just like there is no hacker.

Posted by: Cashin at June 01, 2011 11:13 PM (wY3Ne)

The better comparison is O.J. searching for the "real killer."

Posted by: J.S. Bryun at June 01, 2011 11:30 PM (rqKB1)

O.J. shows up in that episode.

147 142 137: Thats a good point, under what fucked up religion is BJ Clinton an ordained minister?   Captain of a ship at sea?

148 Yeah, I remember /b/ used to be obsessed with her. Once they saw her topless, she totally fell off their radar.

149

I hope and pray that in the next democrat primary, for his house seat or mayor, somebody uses clips from the Weiner's press appearances in a commercial, and the photo in direct mail.

Could be a really fun campaign to watch.

150 113 This is the most fiendish set-up since Mary Jo Kopechne implicated Ted Kennedy in her suicide.

Posted by: nickless at June 01, 2011 11:23 PM (MMC8r)

I am so stealing that.

151 57 So, Weiner is okay with people thinking he takes pics of his little thingie and has the pic or pics on his Blackberry. As if this is a common and ordinary thing to do. So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people? Posted by: nerdygirl at June 01, 2011 11:01 PM (j/5DA) We're Morons, it's a given.

152

Not enough people seem to be pointing out the hilarious contradiction between Weiner not pursuing justice and his crying over the innocent girls he followed on twitter being named in newspapers.

We get it, Anthony, it was just a silly prank because your name is a slang term for a penis. And as we all know, a prankster would obviously post a tame, clothed image, not a graphic nude shot of a hard, throbbing member.

But guess what? Innocent people who have done nothing wrong are being dragged into this. Where's your sense of justice on their behalf?

You aren't worried about it personally, OK, fine. But you're just going to sit there and let these poor girls -- these poor, hot, young, big-breasted girls -- be treated this way?

I can't understand it.

153 What is most delicious of all is how Charles Johnson has been defending Weiner from the very outset, never doubting a word coming out of the babe's mouth. At this point, he looks like the guy who got cheated on but can't admit it to himself or anyone else, left with the bag firmly in hand. Johnson surely has fallen quite a long way since his Rathergate days.

154 Hit the tip jar, cheeseballs.  Ace really earned your remittances with this one.

155 "What is most delicious of all is how Charles Johnson has been defending Weiner from the very outset, never doubting a word coming out of the babe's mouth. At this point, he looks like the guy who got cheated on but can't admit it to himself or anyone else, left with the bag firmly in hand." Shit. You've just described Slick Willie's entire fucking cabinet after the Lewinsky story hit the news.

156 Okay, seriously, people, these twists with hackers and jilted girlfriends are starting to get a bit too far-fetched. I can only suspend my disbelief so far before it becomes ridiculous.

157 Ace refers to Weiner as "formerly, a player". But Weniner and Abedin have been married for not even one full year- since last July,11.

Since we can safely assume that Weiner's inappropriate relations with female twitters did not begin yesterday, that means that he never stopped the skirt chasing that he was know for. Which has me asking: Why, if he seems to enjoy that kind of freedom, did he marry Abedin in the first place?

Which brings us back to the rumours that were swirling since the announcement of their relationship. Was this a sham marriage, arranged merely for the purpose of quieting the rumours about the nature of Abedin's relationship with Hillary? If so, what happens now that Weiner's escapades are having the opposite effect than the marriage was supposed to, in that he's now going to bring more scrutiny on Huma and Hill?

158 I married Wiener and Huma even though I'm not licensed to do so.
I'm sure it'll be no problem for me to preside over their divorce also.

159

So, is the wife's name pronounced

Humma Weiner

or

Hooma Weiner?

Either way, I giggle like a 12-year-old girl when I think of it. Did she keep her maiden name?

160 There's gotta be a logical explanation for how the dic pic made it onto the internet.  I just can't think of it.

161 "If so, what happens now that Weiner's escapades are having the opposite effect than the marriage was supposed to, in that he's now going to bring more scrutiny on Huma and Hill?" Cankles will send him down to Fort Marcy Park to check on Vincent Foster.

162 Look, this whole thing was just a botched joke.

163 There's gotta be a logical explanation for how the dic pic made it onto the internet.  I just can't think of it. Posted by: Wolf Blitzer,

Not dissimilar to the whole Jeopardy experience, eh, Wolf?

164 I am sure political calculations had nothing whatsoever to do with that marriage.  Shucks, it's not like we have a new aristocracy or anything.

165 Okay. After all this, I kinda been wonderin' if and who Wasserman-Schultz might be tweetin'.....

166 Which brings us back to the rumours that were swirling since the announcement of their relationship. Was this a sham marriage, arranged merely for the purpose of quieting the rumours about the nature of Abedin's relationship with Hillary? If so, what happens now that Weiner's escapades are having the opposite effect than the marriage was supposed to, in that he's now going to bring more scrutiny on Huma and Hill?

These are all good questions I could have asked if I wasn't so struck by Weiner's courage and forthrightness. And if I wasn't mildly retarted.
Next time.

167 Cankles will send him down to Fort Marcy Park to check on Vincent Foster.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 01, 2011 11:54 PM (Pzf4N)

Hope they learned from VF and will ensure AW's car keys are in his pocket.  For the car that will be placed in the parking lot.  After witnesses begin to show.

168 Ace, your twitter feed is hilarious.

BTW, I'm sure there has been a jump in hits to the site, but hopefully more. I made sure to mention on FB to all my con friends, who just *TODAY* are linking to Glenn Beck and others, that Ace of Spades HQ had the scoop long before any other media types did.

Great work and keep it up.

169 "There's gotta be a logical explanation for how the dic pic made it onto the internet. I just can't think of it." Heh. Wolf Blitzer. Affirmative Action Jeopardy! contestant.

170 Sort of doubtful a President or ex-President needs a freaking license to perform a wedding.

171 Shucks, it's not like we have a new aristocracy or anything.
Posted by: The Cad

The heck you say ....

172 For those who find this a tad too boring, with not enough thrills and chills or surprise twists and unexpected 11th hour entry by exciting new suspects, let me bore you some more and note this isn't even the first time this mystery has ended this way.


Fuck you.

173 Thanks everyone. I really appreciate it. I also appreciate the slack you cut me when I'm not doing a very good job, which frankly is a lot of the time lately.

174 You're welcome and, ace, I know exactly how you feel.

175 So where are all Weiner's pies? I brought my spork!

176 "Yes, I know it's not as exciting as the Realization Montage in The Usual Suspects, but life usually isn't." Saw film last night; saw new stuff, again. Such a great film; Weiner may watch his bs tonite and see what he's been missing; that he ain't nearly as smart as the fools who voted for him let him think he is.

177

Yes, I know it's not as exciting as the Realization Montage in The Usual Suspects, but life usually isn't. That's why we pay clever people a great deal of money to make shit up for us to watch on a movie screen.

Now, if you want to explain to me that some jealous ex-boyfriend of Hayley Williams was "the real perp," or maybe it was a disgruntled staffer, or maybe even it was a conservative who hated her, fine.

No one wants to listen to a boring monk, even when he's right.

178 HOW ABOUT A NICE CLEAN SHAVE, DOCTOR OCKHAM?

179

There's a simple way to tell if a subject is guilty.

Examine his demeanor. Listen to what he says when first confronted with the crime.

Does his reaction read genuine?

You know ace,  if this sort of stuff does interest you, then you might really want to check out L.A. Noire, the game you talked about a while ago.  Because you are right, you do actively participate in interrogations and have to be watching the people you're talking to in order to determine if they're lying or not.  And the story will progress even if you are wrong but with some alterations.

180 Can someone explain to me why he would upload the pic to the same yfrog account?  Aren't all of the pics visible to whoever browses your photos?  Is there a "For Your Eyes Only" option?

181
When will be the best time to inform Huma that she and Weiner were never
legally married?

Posted by: Slick Willie at June 01, 2011 11:38 PM

The way things are going, I think she would love it as a first anniversary gift.

182 I fucking love Ace's Weinergate postings.  THIS IS YOUR TIME, ACE.  THIS IS YOUR MOMENT.

183
"Thats a good point, under what fucked up religion is BJ Clinton an ordained minister?"

Islam.
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 01, 2011 11:42 PM

Don't forget the hyphen. I-slam.

184 "I also appreciate the slack you cut me when I'm not doing a very good job, which frankly is a lot of the time lately." Thank god my camera was nowhere nearby when MM gave you hattip on FoxNews tonite. I'd have been so tempted to take a shot of burgeoning b... not really, but it was exciting to see you get a portion of cred you deserve for bringing down such a pain in the ass.

185 #139 And another liberal running against him and winning, would be a plus, because I get annoyed every time I see a video clip of his weasel face speaking on CSPAN. I'd loooove to see him taken down a peg.

186 >>>You know ace, if this sort of stuff does interest you, then you might really want to check out L.A. Noire, the game you talked about a while ago. Yeah I know. Odd coincidence, the guy who tipped me to Hayley Williams was raving about LA Noire to me three days ago. I'll get it. (he doesn't want a hat tip by the way.)

187 Which of these requirements to perform marriages does BC fall under?
        

188 I also appreciate the slack you cut me when I'm not doing a very good job, which frankly is a lot of the time lately.
Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:00 AM (nj1bB)

What? This wasn't a good job? This was the job, all of it. Far more important then another Trump, Huckleberry will they or won't they thread.

189 Don't be too hard on Lee Ace.  He is just brainstorming through various ideas.  Patriot has a robust twitter life, and I struggle with the "Patriot is manchurian candidate - jilted lover" theory.  But, it is just that: a theory he is currently limiting to twitter and his own website.

Why no mention anywhere about the discussions in Patriots timeline regarding a forthcoming NY congressional sex scandal being tweeted and re-tweeted between patriot and those who were following him. He taunted both Rangel and Weiner, asking, "Is it you?" But, to hack the account? Am struggling with that concept a bit.

My opinion is that Patriot was just the messenger. BUT, there is something very big going on and the NY sex scandal and Anthony's pic may just be connected. 

190 Sock

191 heh, followed Ace's twitter link to an archive... scrolled down to a different post and found this right here  amazing

192

You know ace,  if this sort of stuff does interest you, then you might really want to check out L.A. Noire, the game you talked about a while ago.  Because you are right, you do actively participate in interrogations and have to be watching the people you're talking to in order to determine if they're lying or not.  And the story will progress even if you are wrong but with some alterations.

Posted by: buzzion

---

It would be pretty funny if someone did a spoof where they spliced in Anthony's nutty responses into the game's interrogation scenes.

193 Which of these requirements to perform marriages does BC fall under?



   http://tinyurl.com/7fll2

194 Kudos, Ace, on being ahead of the curve on this one. I very much underestimated the trajectory of the story.  Still, every "scandal" needs a careful factual vetting before it hits the presses.  The reputations of innocent people may be at stake.    When accuracy is sacrificed for the sake of a scoop, your credibility is damaged. You got most of it right this time.  The ending hasn't been written yet, although you've apparently closed you mind to any culprit but Representative Weiner. American journalism is at a crossroads.  An open-minded approach by bloggers could bring them mainstream respectability. Unfortunately, every recent post of yours seems headed to the same predetermined conclusion.

195 From Tepid Air post on Weinergate:

ItÂ’s a good thing he hired that private security firm to rubber-stamp his allegation that he was hacked, or else that could have been quite the sticky wicket.

Weiner's had a problem with a sticky Wicket from the beginning. Thanks the efforts of a certain honey badger-esque Ewok, Weiner is being exposed for the prick most of us new he was.

196 "But you're just going to sit there and let these poor girls -- these poor, hot, young, big-breasted girls -- be treated this way?" Gawd. that's funny.

197 >>I also appreciate the slack you cut me when I'm not doing a very good job, which frankly is a lot of the time lately. You're doing a great job when most of the msm ignored this story. The liberals will continue doing the Jedi mind trick shit and the only way to overcome it is to keep pounding the obvious. Weiner has been reduced to telling lame dick jokes and pretending he doesn't know if this specific pic is the one he took of his dick. No matter what happens, he is forever diminished. Nice work.

198

It would be pretty funny if someone did a spoof where they spliced in Anthony's nutty responses into the game's interrogation scenes.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 02, 2011 12:09 AM (bAySe)

That would be pretty good.

199
Weiner sent the pic.  End of story.

Now if we just had some repubs that would ask for his resignation and/or start code of conduct hearings, it sure would be nice.

200 Posted by: Howard Kurtz at June 02, 2011 12:09 AM (KIFT6)

----

*double face palm*

201 I promise to get to the bottom of this Wiener story. I will not rest until I complete the investigation. I will take it as deep as it requires.

202 Ace nailed this from the outset. Weiner is the culprit, the perv, and the philanderer. QED.

203 Shouldn't the video/song be Pump it Up?  Oy!

204
Weiner told Maddow that the photo 'maybe started out being a photo of his' but was manipulated.

Yes, he was taking pix of the pattern in his bathroom floor tile so he could make an exact match at Home Depot. And it all went downhill from there.

205 OK, I'm not getting the letters A.V.E.R.A.G.E. J.O.E. out of #195.  Is my decoder ring busted?

206 Question for the Ette's.. 

At what point in a relationship with a guy would it be okay for him to text you a picture of his wang? (Or at least a close up him in his speedo.. and not a head shot either)

And what if the guy was Hugh Jackman or whoever is your flavor of beefcake?

Just for a point of reference as to why Weiner felt it was okay to send the comely coed a picture of his wang.. 

207 Can someone explain/deconstruct this from Cannonfire? Re: Weiner was not hacked but spoofed with a picture that wasn't his.

Not being a twitterer, I have no experience to do so myself but it sounds plausible except for the assumed behaviour of yfrog.

208 >>>Posted by: Howard Kurtz at June 02, 2011 12:09 AM (KIFT6)

Waitasec, is Average Joe trolling us again?  The real Howard Kurtz picked a bad time to suddenly post this reasonable-sounding missive if so.

209
Posted by: Howard Kurtz at June 02, 2011 12:09 AM (KIFT6)

Holy shit, are you forgetting a sock?

210 I fucking love Ace's Weinergate postings.  THIS IS YOUR TIME, ACE.  THIS IS YOUR MOMENT.

DO NOT STOP! TAKE THIS WIENER DOWN! HARD!

211 "Now if we just had some repubs that would ask for his resignation and/or start code of conduct hearings, it sure would be nice." I love the way they're playing it. Hell, let his Dem competition for NYC Mayoral candidacy bring him down; the same way Hillary almost caught Obama with her dropping the right Rev Wright into conversation. Circular firing squads are best viewed from afar, when arranged as well as this will be once the Dem machine see's Anthony as a detriment. [Anyone else queezy about what seems to be the guts of his strategy - hoping for a national calamity to change conversation, cause he ain't got nothing else.]

212 8==>,

The hole in that theory is that the email you need to make that happen itself is sorta like a password, random characters, and is not publicly available.

213 I also appreciate the slack you cut me when I'm not doing a very good job, which frankly is a lot of the time lately.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:00 AM (nj1bB)

Ace, on your worst day, you are head and shoulders above the rest.  Where the fuck would we all be without you?  Too hideous to even contemplate . . .

214 "OK, I'm not getting the letters A.V.E.R.A.G.E. J.O.E. out of #195. Is my decoder ring busted?" Yep. "A" in "Ace" "v" in "every" "e" in "needs" "r" in "reputations" "a" in "accuracy" "g" in "damaged" "e" in "been" skip a line blank line "j" in "journalism" "o" in "approach" "e" in "respectability" skip a line end message

215 well jeff if you think I'm on your wavelength now wait till you see the second on-point video I added.

216 Re 195:

Look at the first letter of the second word in each sentence.

217 If it is Kurtz, we should reverse engineer his hashtag and use it to hack his computor!

218 Weiner may or may not be able to recognize his own dick in a picture, but you'd think after this sort of incident, he'd at least remember which underwear he was wearing that day!

219
Can someone explain/deconstruct this from Cannonfire? Re: Weiner was not hacked but spoofed with a picture that wasn't his.

Not being a twitterer, I have no experience to do so myself but it sounds plausible except for the assumed behaviour of yfrog.
Posted by: 8==> at June 02, 2011 12:14 AM

It's all explained in a front page thread here. Go to the main page and scroll down.

220 D'oh. 

221 McGee, what does #thats545inseattleithink mean?

222 First letter of second word of each sentence: Ace, on being ahead of the curve on this one.  Very much underestimated the trajectory of the story.   Every "scandal" needs a careful factual vetting before it hits the presses.   Reputations of innocent people may be at stake.     Accuracy is sacrificed for the sake of a scoop, your credibility is damaged.  Got most of it right this time.   Ending hasn't been written yet, although you've apparently closed you mind to any culprit but Representative Weiner. Journalism is at a crossroads.   Open-minded approach by bloggers could bring them mainstream respectability.  Every recent post of yours seems headed to the same predetermined conclusion.

223 Has he dropped that whole, "If I was in front of 45000 people and someone in the back threw a pie..." bullshit? BTW, The correct analogy would be if he was giving a speech in front of 45k people and someone ran onstage and pants'd him. He would have the option not to press charges but you know the cops would tackle, kick the shit out of, and book the perpetrator. Ol' Anthony went full-on Jim Morrison with this one.

224 Where the fuck would we all be without you?  Too hideous to even contemplate . . .

Posted by: Peaches at June 02, 2011 12:17 AM (afUO

--My work productivity would increase ~30%, for sure.

225 I don't want to push down this post, which I'm proud of and would like to leave up all night, but in fact Anthony Weiner is playing for a draw, and that's all he needs. The media is only covering this because of the embarrassment of not covering John Edwards. But they want him to survive, obviously. Best case scenario for the media? They cover it, they say "we can't go any further," he survives. That was the point of Wolf Blitzer's interview today -- to ask the 'tough questions" and let him escape. That's why he CONGRATULATED him at interview's end-- he was telling him he'd answered all questions to his satisfaction. Do you notice Weiner appears cockier than you'd be? That's because he knows the fix is in. He only needs to throw up a little doubt and the media will run with it.

226
Ace, I'll add my voice to the throng: you da man. I can't tell you how often I mention "this conservative forum where I participate" and I have more facts than anyone else in the room.

227 Boy, are those Republicans like Weiner ever disgusting. –––––––––––––––––––––– It's the official tipping point!

228 Would Weiner technically be lying by saying  "I did not send that to the girl" if he meant to send it to someone else, but it went to Genette N. by accident?  Only, he has no idea how it happened and is guessing a hacker/prankster somehow caused it to redirect?

He seems pretty adamant that he did not send the tweet to her.  He may actually be ignorant how it got to her.

229 Once there was a man named  Wiener
who saw a picture and went all a-Twitter
He meant to privately post his crotch
but one letter did he botch
and wishes he'd never seen her...

230 But that fellow Charles Johnson says Rep. Weiner does a very good job of defending himself against an increasingly predatory media and says Rep. Weiner says very clearly that he did not post the photo and did not send the tweet.
And it would appear that many (most?) on his blog agree with him.  I don't know, Mr. Johnson's blog just seems to have a certain je ne sais quoi about it....

231 Oh and Peaches, thank you so much! I appreciate the tip jar hits, almost as much as statements of support, or, actually, even more. A lot more. I buy beer with them.

232 "At what point in a relationship with a guy would it be okay for him to text you a picture of his wang? " Never. As I said the other night, here is how pretty much everyone would respond to a photo of a guy's genitalia: 1. Show your friends and laugh, say things like, ick, ew, gross, yuch. 2. Make a lot of jokes about how small it is, about 30 minutes worth. 3. throw out some Lorena Bobbitt references If she likes you a lot, nature will take its course. But.It. Does. Not. Look. Good. In. Pictures.

233 >>>well jeff if you think I'm on your wavelength now wait till you see the second on-point video I added.

I fucking love "Uncomplicated."  The entire Blood & Chocolate album, really.  You're playing to the cheap seats with that one, Ace, but I'm sitting in the cheap seats so hell yeah.

234 Any opinions on whether Dan Wolfe has grounds for a defamation suit against that prick at Cannonfire?

235

Do you notice Weiner appears cockier than you'd be? That's because he knows the fix is in. He only needs to throw up a little doubt and the media will run with it.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:22 AM (nj1bB)

Yeah, all he needs to do is to get the people on the left to stop with their cries for the blood of the "hacker" and then they can drop it.  They really don't give a shit about what we're saying, as you've put it so well in a previous post.  Even when given the opportunity to hear our views they aren't interested.

236 >>>He seems pretty adamant that he did not send the tweet to her. He may actually be ignorant how it got to her. Yeah probably. I forgot we were living on Truth World, where no one ever lies, and we have to torture ourselves to make their statements fit the facts, because, again, no one ever lies.

237 Im in ur hedz

Skrambling leterz

238 I honestly am suspecting to believe that people are simply painfully naive, and that this shit I'm talking about is a rude surprise.

239 Ace nailed this from the outset. Weiner is the culprit, the perv, and the philanderer. QED.

Agreed..

240 Ace, thanks for a Memorial Day weekend I will not soon forget.

241 sorry to attack, Serious Cat. I am just get a weird feeling of "What planet am I on?" I have people actually telling me stuff like this. "Well, Weiner said x and y, and the Comely Coed said z..." Ohhhh, they SAID that? Oohhhhhh, I didn't realize they said that. Let me tear up the obvious conclusion here because two people caught in an illicit sex act say they weren't engaged in an illicit sex act.

242 But.It. Does. Not. Look. Good. In. Pictures.

Note to self: delete pic tweeted to nerdy girl.

243 This whole incident is like a bunch of country club members seeing one of the board officers defecate on the 18th hole in broad daylight. To avoid the embarrassment the entire club is desperate to convince each other that it must have been an outsider, a prank, an accident. The whole time, the one thing the country club refuses to admit is that their officers are... perverts.

244 Ace, I really think you're beginning to sound a bit like Andrew Sullivan or Charles Johnson at this point, if you know what I mean.

245 oh and it wasn't even under oath? And they're deliberately avoiding any police involvement where their statements would be subject to legal penalty, if they were false? oohhhhh, right, let's really make their statements the building blocks of our knowledge of the case.

246 This whole thing is straight out of Dilbert.

247 I honestly am suspecting to believe that people are simply painfully naive, and that this shit I'm talking about is a rude surprise. That people are, by and large, willing to lie in order to weasel out of culpability for bad or foolish behavior? Nah. I think that's pretty universally accepted. Maybe I'm just cynical.

248 Yeah probably. I forgot we were living on Truth World, where no one ever lies, and we have to torture ourselves to make their statements fit the facts, because, again, no one ever lies.

Posted by: ace

---

But then why the heck would he be truthful about the underwear shot?  Its a lot harder to prove that is him than to find out the tweet came from his IP address.

249 Shark Divebomber Donkey Cumslurper

250 "Well, if we assume what they're saying is true--" whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm a-gonna stop you right there. Rewind and reexamine this conclusion. Weiner is being advised by lawyers on how to lie in the best manner possible and without wanting to bring in the Comely Coed, let's just say I suspect she might have been given some advice as well.

251
Anthony Weiner is playing for a draw, and that's all he needs.

Exactly. If Weiner doesn't report this to LE, how much further can it go? It would take some of those Comely Followers to produce more dicpix or something, and that hasn't happened yet, so I don't see it happening at all.

I can only hope Breitbart is right: Dana Bash is a bitter PUMA woman who will take down Weiner for disgracing Huma.

252 >>>But then why the heck would he be truthful about the underwear shot? Best guess? Because he's sent that shot to other people and if he denies it's him he's proven a liar. He wants to avoid specific claims, to the extent he can, because it is on that, the LIES, he'll fall. On trying to cyber a 21 year old, he skates. It's the provable lies he dies on. So he attempts to commit himself to as little as possible.

253 Wizard's First Rule: People are sheep, they will believe something because they want it to be true; or they're afraid it's true.

254 I know y'all are all cable/satellite-centric, but I get my tv over the airwaves and 3 times now, tonight, I have heard the teasers "Weiner scandal at 11."  I don't think this is gonna die down all that fast.  It probably doesn't hurt that the shitbird has such a catchy name.




P.S.  Valu-Rite makes a beer?  Who knew!!  How does it compare to Natty Lite, pricewise?

255 Not to go off topic (but I'm going off topic) and not to pimp my own shit (but I'm pimping my own shit):  I just today finally got all the wires together and managed to make a VIDEO!  Of me.  Being a lame gamer.  Shah-i-Kot valley 0, me 1. 

256

So when does Weiner go to the notarized affadavit and polygraph test to "prove" his ridiculous statements?

On MadCow he just repeated that he did not know the ComelyCoed^TM

257 248 I honestly am suspecting to believe that people are simply painfully naive, and that this shit I'm talking about is a rude surprise.

That people are, by and large, willing to lie in order to weasel out of culpability for bad or foolish behavior? Nah. I think that's pretty universally accepted. Maybe I'm just cynical.

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at June 02, 2011 12:32 AM (q1/Wn)

Yes people are very naive.  And also incredibly ignorant about technology.  Even those that claim to be tech savvy, solely because they post online or use twitter.  I think a lot of those you start talking about IPs and whether they are static or dynamic and they'll get a glazed look across their eyes and go "Huh?"  They probably have no clue how incredibly simple it would be to determine whether the dicpic originated from a computer or smartphone used bye weiner.

258 Alright, this shit has gone on long enough. There have been no signs of remorse or capitulation, and thus, this little fuckstick needs to be wrangled down, inoculated, and have his nuts clipped.

Why are Americans playing this game?   This guy is a fucking dirtbag.

Where's O'Reilly?  With all due respect, get his ass on the phone!

259 Incidentally, for what it's worth anecdotal evidence tells me that Weiner has already done himself in.  I mean the question really isn't whether he'll resign or not -- he was NEVER going to resign, he's the Democratic representative from Brooklyn, for god's sake -- but whether he would be neutered as a spokesman for the Dems (and as a mayoral candidate) going forward.

And I think that damage is now done.  Weiner can "wait this out" or "play for the tie," as Ace puts it, but I haven't spoken to a SINGLE LIBERAL -- that is, out in the real world (where I know tons) or even on the internet (where I visit other forums populated by typical lefties) -- that thinks Weiner isn't transparently guilty.  The interviews he gave yesterday and today sealed it.  Now some of them say things like "oh big deal," but I'm not even hearing much of that.  Just a lot of embarrassment and face-pulling, and "gee Congressmen are scumbags, aren't they?"

Pretty much only the Kos Kiddies still believe that this is all a huge misunderstanding, and that Weiner is somehow innocent.  But then they were going to no matter what.  So I don't really see how the ball is going to be moved much forward from here (though I look forward to more awkward interviews), but I consider this a big "win" for us as it is, and much more than I expected at the outset: he's really torched himself something fierce, and even though this will eventually die down it's never going away for him.

The big wild card: Huma.  She hasn't said a word since the jump.  Now she's very media-shy as it is, so that isn't a huge shock, but I'm a bit surprised Weiner hasn't talked her into a "stand by your man" appearance yet.  If that doesn't happen, or if shit breaks bad (look for a whisper campaign!) it may get worse.  Other than that, I think we can be satisfied with what we've accomplished.

But then what do I know?  I've been playing the wet blanket about this affair from the get-go.  I just love being proven so wrong.  Never would've thought Weiner would self-destruct so spectacularly on that CNN interview or today.  His media rounds are NOT GOING OVER WELL in Washington today, despite what Ace says about softballs from Wolf Blitzer.  Special Report's panel savaged him today, Politico's all over his shit (you give Ben Smith crap, but he's reporting all sorts of great stuff, like how Pelosi's shop basically has hated him for years and now they're comparing his newsers on background to Charlie Sheen's meltdown), and even Salon's tossed him to the wolves.  Toasty.

260 So buzzion, you're saying I'm more cynical than most?

261 Wieners initial response claim of "hacked" and odd humor complaint about tivo etc wreaked of desperate, sloppy, and erratic a lot like that Ashley Simpson deal on SNL when she got caught lip syncing.

262 ace: "I honestly am suspecting to believe that people are simply painfully naive..."

Part true. Naive and stupid. And disingenuous. Hacks are clearly the latter. And politicians, especially a-holes like Weiner, conflate the topic to exploit the former. Bide for time, throw in wiggle words, selectively parse terminology and events, deflect, and accuse others. Pretty much boilerplate politics with the Bell Curve of Voter IQ's determining the outcome of events.

Your task was to move the curve Right. You succeeded. How far yet to be determined.

263 this shit I'm talking about is a rude surprise.

LOL!!  Puts me right in mind of Citibank's "Economic Surprise Index" that was all over the news today.  Yup, it's all so surprising.

264 Okay what I don't get is why isn't Weiner sending his own dickpic to Gennette the null hypothesis in this whole dealio?

It was sent from his account to her - so the logical presumption ought to be that he was the sender until proven otherwise. And so far no one has been able to. And the one guy who could - Weiner - refuses to.

So why go looking for complicated sting conspiracies when the simplest, most likely explanation hasn't been disproved?

265 "But then why the heck would he be truthful about the underwear shot?" Please note he is not strictly being truthful. He gave a Clintonian answer with the certitude remark; an answer that screams with inside voice "it's my dick!!!" but the outside legalistic voice says "I take the Fifth."

266

On trying to cyber a 21 year old, he skates. It's the provable lies he dies on.

So he attempts to commit himself to as little as possible.

 

Dude has no poker face.  He comes accross as anything but a 'victim' in this, making his claims all the more ludicrous. 

I do find it funny how he immediately appealed to victimhood, though. Tellingly funny.

 

267
Weiner's office today:

http://twitpic.com/55irkk

Maybe it comes down to who will win the chicken fight.

268 251 "Well, if we assume what they're saying is true--"

whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm a-gonna stop you right there.

Rewind and reexamine this conclusion.

Weiner is being advised by lawyers on how to lie in the best manner possible and without wanting to bring in the Comely Coed, let's just say I suspect she might have been given some advice as well.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:33 AM (nj1bB)

< Damn straight Ace.  Follow your instict on this.  This shit is the thing and will not dampen down. This fool is steeped in foolishness and cannot play the volley. Ace don't let this down. Keep advancing this and keep reinventing it in genre because this feller will resign once big uncontrollable mo gets cookin.  The DNC ain't gonna want their rook grilled up on the cusp of the next cycle.

Ace, keep moving this forward through your genius.

 

269 "But then why the heck would he be truthful about the underwear shot?" That's exactly what is killing me about this libtard and libtards in general. WTF? They lie about every other fucking thing. They lie to their retarded fucking selves. They lie as they rob us fucking blind. What compels them suddenly to feel twangs of conscience over stuff like this? Is it that these fuckers think themselves so brilliantly godlike that shit like, "that depends on what the definition of the word, 'is,' is," and "can't say with any certitude," and just about any fucking thing that scrolls past on Princess Barry's teleprompter will fly? Who do these fucking weasels think they are?

270 1) One of the problems with the Internet News Cycle is that we ovverrun ourselves and end up like a dog chasing its tail. It's not too much information, it's the same information over and over.

2) Hayley Williams - it's sad that had to get dredged up again, poor lady. Also, I would *so* hit that like the K-T Extinction Event.

271 I can't believe all you guys buying into the "Magic" woody. Obviously there was a Second Wiener in that hairy knoll.

272 This whole situation is almost as fake as when Breitbart staged the moon landing.

273 261 So buzzion, you're saying I'm more cynical than most?

Posted by: Dumb_Blonde at June 02, 2011 12:39 AM (q1/Wn)

Yes, but less cynical than me

274 #260.  Well said.

275

"1. Show your friends and laugh, say things like, ick, ew, gross, yuch.
2. Make a lot of jokes about how small it is, about 30 minutes worth.
3. throw out some Lorena Bobbitt references."

 

Or variations thereof.  Like not showing the picture, but describing it, and getting the same reaction as #1.

Laughing at the fact that he felt that it was okay to send a dick pic and 20 minutes on 'you can't be serious about going out with him again' which directly follows 'omg, you won't believe this..."

Any self respecting woman would receive something like that and either be pissed off/offended, or left incapacitated by peals of laughter, neither of which is the reaction that a guy is looking for.

For the more savvy, then there is the gross speculation as to how many OTHER women to whom he's also sent pictures of his wang to. Suddenly, he becomes globally UNAPPEALING.

No wang pics, ever.

 

 

 

276 Ace, you're probably right.  My theory doesn't explain the Girl nuking all her online accounts.  She is probably terrified that this will kill her chance at a career in Jornalism. 

Btw, is it now kosher to use her real name.  Fox News was reporting both her name and photo tonight.

277 >>So why go looking for complicated sting conspiracies when the simplest, most likely explanation hasn't been disproved? I know you're not really confused by this but let me say the obvious anyway. Because he's a liberal.

278 "255 I know y'all are all cable/satellite-centric, but I get my tv over the airwaves and 3 times now, tonight, I have heard the teasers "Weiner scandal at 11."  Ace may take a bow for his hand in this. It is real... And it is fabulous!!!

279 I avoid her name as a favor. It's not like I'm so invested in squashing her.

280 Do you notice Weiner appears cockier than you'd be? That's because he knows the fix is in. He only needs to throw up a little doubt and the media will run with it.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:22 AM (nj1bB)

That's undoubtedly true but it's also getting out of control. The whole "context" thing with Maddow? That just creates more questions.

281 Do you notice Weiner appears cockier than you'd be? That's because he knows the fix is in. He only needs to throw up a little doubt and the media will run with it.

You know Dave Chappelle's bit about his super-high white friend getting pulled over by the cops and scaring him by acting like it's no big deal? My partner-in-teenage-misdemeanors was like that, because he knew that saying his father's name had the power to make crimes disappear. A rearview full of blue and red lights made him smile. Weiner's got the same thing going.

I've always had to make do with sociopathic cool (which works, but not in the same way, and can backfire freakishly). I thought Weiner would resort to that, and use the lie that fits all known knowns here (while allowing all his fans and enemies to know he was lying and get off on or be shamed and infuriated by his getting off), but he knows he doesn't have to.

I've only once been in a situation where the world was against me, and rightly so, but I outranked the world, so I could just "...And?" it. Fine fucking day that was. And if all my days were like it, you'd all know exactly what my dick looks like.

282 Thinking about it some more... he is probably doing is darnedest to steer the press away from the girl.

283

This story is beyond ridiculous. He's an idiot and so is anyone that believes his cockamamy story.

 

284 >>>Ace, keep moving this forward through your genius. I did a victory lap on twitter about predicting the "private security firm" gambit. I baited the MSM by asking them if they thought I was simply psychic, or maybe there was some other reason I was living in Weiner's head. I tweeted to him on Saturday and Sunday that he was huddled up in a boardroom in an office of a crisis communications (Spin SWAT) firm. I am confident that when I addressed him that's exactly where he was. I doubt I've gotten anything wrong, including the baiting speculation.

285 BTW this is what I posted in response to @Stranahan's implausible  theory:

There is nothing implausible about how Patriot saw it in the 1-5 seconds.
Timeline:

1. Patriot, obsessed for some reason, has 2 tabs open. One to his feed and one to WeinerÂ’s. But I think Patriot saw Weiner tweet in his own feed as he follows Weiner.

2. Twitter says “new tweet” and Patriot clinks on “new tweet” which shows Pic tweet to coed.

3. Patriot right clicks on link to Yfrog pic and selects “Open in new tab”

4. Patriot see pic in new tab.

5. Clicks on tab for Patriot feed & retweets WeinerÂ’s tweet.

6. Retweet updates page which shows Weiner tweet gone.

7. Total time so far? Under 5 seconds for someone who uses a computer regularly.

8. Patriot goes back to tab with pic and tries to save or download but canÂ’t since it has been deleted.

9. Grabs screen grab of window with Weiner pic in it.

Leaving a tab open for 3 hours to WeinerÂ’s feed is nothing for someone obsessed with him for some reason. I think even Patriot would admit he was obsessed about following Weiner.

The odd thing is that Patriot states twice what a coincidence it is Weiner is there to delete tweet in under 5 seconds. This would be no coincidence if Weiner had just sent it, seen it was public, and immediately deleted it.

286 This guy is a U.S. Representative??

This country is toast when crap like this can get elected.

God help us all. 

 

287 Weiner is turning the tables on you, Ace.  You and we laughed at him.  Now he's making a joke of it.

This actually might work for him.

288
Where's O'Reilly?  With all due respect, get his ass on the phone!
Posted by: Fritz at June 02, 2011 12:38 AM

I don't have t.v. where I am. Wasn't Bill-o supposed to have some "answer" for us tonight as to why the FBI isn't involved?

289 Mætenloch: "So why go looking for complicated sting conspiracies when the simplest, most likely explanation hasn't been disproved?"

That's just crazy talk, that's what that is. Haven't you been listening to @Stranahan et al.?!

290 I should have added, not just a liberal but liberal aristocracy and aire to the Clinton throne. He's married to Hillary's bitch at a wedding presided over by the big swinging liberal dick hisself. And people wonder why he is getting a free pass over what is obvious to normal people?

291 @282 That sounds like the psychology at work inside the Weiner junk.

292 >>>I've only once been in a situation where the world was against me, and rightly so, but I outranked the world, so I could just "...And?" it. Fine fucking day that was. And if all my days were like it, you'd all know exactly what my dick looks like.

Now this was some well-written shit.

293

It's a cover-up!!!

Weiner actually sent his dick-pic to Barney Frank.

 

294 The world is ending Duke Nukem releases on Jun 14.

295
I tweeted to him on Saturday and Sunday that he was huddled up in a boardroom in an office of a crisis communications (Spin SWAT) firm. I am confident that when I addressed him that's exactly where he was.

Then tell him he won't get away with it. Tell him no one is going to let it die. Get Edgar Allen Poe on his ass. "It was the beating of his hideous heart!"

296 252
Anthony Weiner is playing for a draw, and that's all he needs.

Exactly. If Weiner doesn't report this to LE, how much further can it go? It would take some of those Comely Followers to produce more dicpix or something, and that hasn't happened yet, so I don't see it happening at all.

I can only hope Breitbart is right: Dana Bash is a bitter PUMA woman who will take down Weiner for disgracing Huma.

Posted by: arhooley at June 02, 2011 12:34 AM (+/eKV)

< Simply put... Bull Shit.  This thing is now uncontainable. Weiner is a verbose spiteful hypocrite and the beclownment factor is a mighty toxin.  

297 I think @Stranahan bought into the email Weiner's Yfrog account theory which has pretty much been debunked at this point. The problem with the theory is the person would need to know Weiner's Yfrog email which is randomly generated. So @Stranhan invents a reason for Patriot to know it. The other problem with the theory is a yfrog email is not something you get automatically with an account, your have to request it. On top of that you don't need an email account to post to Yfrog.

298

So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

nerdygirl

Totally normal, but only shown to coeds.  I do it all the time.

299 On Maddow's show, he started off by saying he blamed her.  As in he was on her set Friday night, tweeting about the hockey game, when he saw the nefarious tweet appear in his Twitter stream.  He clicked it, which took him to the yfrog account he'd never seen before (per him), then deleted the pic in question and all the other heretofore unseen (by him) pics held in the heretofore unknown (to him) yfrog account.  And that's how it happened.

300 Btw, is it now kosher to use her real name. Fox News was reporting both her name and photo tonight.

Posted by: Serious Cat at June 02, 2011 12:42 AM (bAySe)

Clearly, the word "kosher" does not mean what I think it means.

301
Simply put... Bull Shit.  This thing is now uncontainable. Weiner is a verbose spiteful hypocrite and the beclownment factor is a mighty toxin.

Okay, thanks for talking me out of my trough. I've been up and down on this with lightning speed.

302 "Leaving a tab open for 3 hours to WeinerÂ’s feed is nothing for someone obsessed with him for some reason. I think even Patriot would admit he was obsessed about following Weiner." This would be a great time to suggest to any other obsession-oriented folks out there hoping to have their own day in the sun that every libtard piece of shit that made it a point to carry Weiner's water in the last few days is probably most likely has something to hide. It's only a matter of time before one of them slips, so please be sure to be watching for it.

303 Remember the endgame here is not Weiner resigning, but making him an impotent laughingstock. Halfway there.

304 290 Mætenloch: "So why go looking for complicated sting conspiracies when the simplest, most likely explanation hasn't been disproved?"

That's just crazy talk, that's what that is. Haven't you been listening to @Stranahan et al.?!

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at June 02, 2011 12:47 AM (1yViP)

Well see that's the problem - I have been listening @Stranahan and now I'm beginning to doubt non-leftards' ability to use basic logic.

I think there's a certain percentage of people who deliberately look for the convoluted and complex in things because that's how the world makes sense to them - simplicity is just unsatisfying. So the obvious explanation - meth found in the car of the thin, nervous guy with bad teeth actually belongs to him -  must in fact be a puzzle that they must unwrap, dig into  and solve.

305 So clue me in morons, is this something a guy would do? Use a phone to take pics of his genitalia, and then, presumably, show them to various people?

Oh, hell, no.  Where would you even get such a ridiculous idea?

306 >>>Weiner is turning the tables on you, Ace.  You and we laughed at him.  Now he's making a joke of it.

>>>This actually might work for him

No.  No it won't.  I don't think you realize how poorly his "joking" about this today was received by the DC press corps.  Awkward laughs?  Sure.  But the reaction was generally one of "gee, this is creepy." Normally they'd be all okey-dokey laugh-in with Weiner, but now?  Now they smell blood and they ARE journalists after all, with bullshit-detectors, and those are attuned to this sort of stuff pretty well.

Again: look at the coverage of this on every major news site (absent the NY Times, of course).  Politico?  Say what you will about them, all you need to do is look at their front-page coverage (as well as Ben Smith's blogging) and not even read between the lines very hard to know that they think he's a lying bastard.  Salon put him out to pasture by mid-afternoon.  Fox, after being initially ginger, is all-in on him (even Juan Williams was skewering him tonight).  CNN has done its damage already, Wolf Blitzer softballs or no. 

I'll reemphasize: I don't see how the ball moves forward from here.  Weiner will stonewall, there won't be an official investigation that could prove the matter, and nobody will confess, so it's over except for the exceedingly awkward questioning (and even that will die away necessarily in a week or so).  But Weiner has permanently damaged himself here.  Except for the happy haunts of MSNBC, he's a back-bencher again while he remains in Congress, and is suddenly very vulnerable in a Dem primary for mayor.

307 285 >>>Ace, keep moving this forward through your genius.

I did a victory lap on twitter about predicting the "private security firm" gambit. I baited the MSM by asking them if they thought I was simply psychic, or maybe there was some other reason I was living in Weiner's head.

I tweeted to him on Saturday and Sunday that he was huddled up in a boardroom in an office of a crisis communications (Spin SWAT) firm. I am confident that when I addressed him that's exactly where he was.

I doubt I've gotten anything wrong, including the baiting speculation.

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 12:46 AM (nj1bB)

< You are spot on brother... I will personally fund your enterprise (although the wife is sick of my funding enterprises) but I am living a life right now of going for it. Ace, it's liberating.  Don't back down ever on this. You have a multitude of support beyond your wildest imagination with some well dialed in salty bastards who know we are operating in unchartered waters who are all in at this point.

308 I'm OUTRAGED that the FBI won't say if it's involved, and I'm staying on this huge story. Hacking a congressman is a national security issue!

Yes, I'm a putz, but you gotta hand it to me for pounding my well-watched fist on the importance of this.

Word of the day: putz.

309
And that's how it happened.
Posted by: Count de Monet at June 02, 2011 12:52 AM

Any clue as to how he had Delete privileges at a yfrog account he didn't know existed?

310 Did Hayley take that midnight train to anywhere?

311 This would be a great time to suggest to any other obsession-oriented folks out there hoping to have their own day in the sun that every libtard piece of shit that made it a point to carry Weiner's water in the last few days is probably most likely has something to hide. It's only a matter of time before one of them slips, so please be sure to be watching for it.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 02, 2011 12:53 AM (Pzf4N)

Well I sure hope Breitbart or somebody out there is logging every Democrat politician's tweets and FB update 24/7. It wouldn't be hard to do.

312 Any clue as to how he had Delete privileges at a yfrog account he didn't know existed?

Posted by: arhooley at June 02, 2011 12:55 AM (+/eKV)

Magic. He's a magician.

313 "On top of that you don't need an email account to post to Yfrog." And, on top of that, one report to the FBI, a warrant for yfrog's SMTP logs, a warrant for Weiner's BES or BIS SMTP logs, and the alleged cyber-stalker/hacker gets to room with the fuck who broke into Governor Palin's email account. If Weiner didn't do this, law enforcement would have perp-walked whoever did before the weekend was over.

314 Did Hayley take that midnight train to anywhere?

Posted by: Steve Perry at June 02, 2011 12:56 AM (fpgkJ)

Get off my lawn. 

Ain't nothin' worse than a punk-ass white boy.

315
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 02, 2011 12:53 AM

Maybe we ought to have an Adopt-a-Congresscreep program. Everybody pick one and get some Firehose app or something that downloads everything from the Twitter account including the associated content at any tweeted URLs.

316 Mætenloch: "...and now I'm beginning to doubt non-leftards' ability to use basic logic."

That's the left side of the Bell Curve I mentioned earlier. Plus, they desperately want an out for Weiner. The implausible becomes plausible - especially if you can't disentangle the spaghetti getting tossed out by Team Weiner and the hacks.

317 Oh, and let me make a fearless prediction: regardless of any future developments, short of an actual resignation/suicide-on-live-TV, Dave Weigel will claim this is a "non-scandal," and that Weiner is "probably innocent." 

Because that's what Dave Weigel, Conservative Media Reporter, does.

318 Crikes, two really really nice ones in a row, Jeff B. 

319 "I think there's a certain percentage of people who deliberately look for the convoluted and complex in things because that's how the world makes sense to them - simplicity is just unsatisfying." I think that percentage is much larger than can be sustained. I blame it on situational irony in popular entertainment. It's like drug addiction or pr0n creep.

320 All we need now is a - and sorry for metaphor.. a charles johnson throbbing graphic so to speak
...and the undoing is complete.

Hardest hit.

Charles Johnson by Weinergate and going all in on insanity of desperation.

BWAHAHAHA!

321 >>>I'm OUTRAGED that the FBI won't say if it's involved, and I'm staying on this huge story. Hacking a congressman is a national security issue!

>>>Yes, I'm a putz, but you gotta hand it to me for pounding my well-watched fist on the importance of this.

Mock Bill O'Reilly all you want, he's played the Weiner scandal brilliantly.  I fucking love his deadpan "this is a national security issue" angle.  It's perfect.

322 #318 Unless I've missed it, Dave Weigel is the Dog Who Did Not Bark, on this one.  Where the fuck is Dave?

323 I LOVE you Tony Weiner!  Thanks for talking to me over and over again about feminism.  I love feminism.  Especially in my latest film, 'High School Sluts with No Hope 3', which really speaks to diversity!

324

Never understimate the currency of beclownment... it don't depreciate.

325 'Night, Weinerfiends! 

326 Quesiton...

Why is it that there are two versions of the dic pic?  One cropped and another larger version where you can see a table leg in the background?

327 >>>Unless I've missed it, Dave Weigel is the Dog Who Did Not Bark, on this one.  Where the fuck is Dave?

Apparently he's on vacation.  I thought it was only for the holiday weekend, but he seems to have "conveniently" extended his stay or something. 

I've known Weigel for years, and he's gotten progressively more turdish with each passing one.

328 Excuse me Congressman Weiner, I was wondering if I could get some information on your agenda for Medicare.  I was hoping for some kind of solution from the democrats.

I've called your office three times and can't seem to get a response.  Who are you talking to all day?

329
Remember the endgame here is not Weiner resigning, but making him an impotent laughingstock. Halfway there. Posted by: George Orwell at June 02, 2011 12:53 AM

he's a back-bencher again while he remains in Congress, and is suddenly very vulnerable in a Dem primary for mayor.
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 02, 2011 12:54 AM

Well gentlemen, I'd like to pose a concrete objective: he never gets further than where he is now. Jeff B, "very vulnerable" isn't enough for me. I'm counting on some cannibalistic New York Dems to see his implosion as their entree to mayoral victory. Hell, I'll donate to their campaigns. I'll donate if there's some dog-eat-dog bastard who ventures to primary his ass in 2012.

330 "One cropped and another larger version where you can see a table leg in the background?" Heh. Table leg. Fucking runt has Olive Oyl's gams.

331 Alright, that's it. Enough. I've decided that not only was Weiner hacked, pics faked, yfrog hijacked, and whatever else, but this whole thing is some sorta massive psyop arranged by Bill Clinton, and Weiner's in on it. Why? I dunno, I don't care. I'm gonna leave such speculation to men more brilliant than Ace or myself, like @stranahan, for the time being.

332 The table leg is for scale

333 Yay!  Congressman Weiner just followed my twitter!

He keeps sending my pictures of a teddy bear called pedro.  Pedrobear! 

I hope you take me to the prom.

Nice jockeys, btw!

334 333 The table leg is for scale

Posted by: KZnextzone at June 02, 2011 01:08 AM (ZUWaD)

<LOL

335 Dave Wiegel is a personal acquaintance?  Better you than me.  And you really did write some salient stuff in the posts above.  I'll try to be more chivalrous next time I disagree with you.

336 Can you prove that Anthony Weiner exists at all?  What if every image and report of him is an elaborate hack!!!!!

Prove me wrong!

Clearly he's been framed because it's not possible to prove me wrong!!!

337 I think there's a certain percentage of people who deliberately look for the convoluted and complex in things because that's how the only way the world makes sense to them - simplicity is just unsatisfying. So the obvious explanation - meth found in the car of the thin, nervous guy with bad teeth actually belongs to him -  must in fact be a puzzle that they must unwrap, dig into  and solve.

Posted by: Mætenloch at June 02, 2011 12:54 AM (TU3mr)

Spot on!  FIFM

What? I just need to ask Jesus to come into my heart and be my Lord and Savior?  But I don't have any Faith in Him.  What?  He'll give me Faith, and Forgiveness, and Acceptance, and Eternal Salvation just for the asking?  That's completly idiotic!  The Scientology Church has a much cooler spiritual path as do the Buddhists with reincarnation.

338
I tweeted to him on Saturday and Sunday that he was huddled up in a boardroom in an office of a crisis communications (Spin SWAT) firm. I am confident that when I addressed him that's exactly where he was.

Quoted again. For goldenness.

339

There is a simple explanation two words:

 

 

"Dick" Cheney

340 Give O'Reilly a break on this one. Like Jeff B. said, he's actually taking a good, "responsible" take on this. This is how you push the official methods to move the ball. It's the tack I'd take if I wanted to appeal to the uninformed moderates: let some analyze the "common man" response to an incident while I address the "honorable" Congressman. Take the "victim" at his word, at first, and push for legal, binding action. Then start asking the third parties for their response to the incident since they were drawn in, too (i.e. Twitter, Facebook, yfrog, Capitol security, etc.).

Reasonable people will get drawn in to the story in an official manner with a ratcheting of events.

341 Spot on!  FIFM

What? I just need to ask Jesus to come into my heart and be my Lord and Savior?  But I don't have any Faith in Him.  What?  He'll give me Faith, and Forgiveness, and Acceptance, and Eternal Salvation just for the asking?  That's completly idiotic!  The Scientology Church has a much cooler spiritual path as do the Buddhists with reincarnation.

Posted by: Count de Monet at June 02, 2011 01:12 AM (XBM1t)

It also explains the long running appeal of Gnosticism.

342 I still think he's toast next Monday. Something's gonna blow up this weekend. I just feel it in my bones, or gut, or wherever. Yeah.

343 Don't stop, believin,
It wasn't my junk they I was tweetin,
computer hacks,
stole my package oooo-aaaaaaah....

344 Any clue as to how he had Delete privileges at a yfrog account he didn't know existed?

Posted by: arhooley at June 02, 2011 12:55 AM (+/eKV)

Old woman!  I order you to be quiet!  No follow up questions to implausible answers!

345

"Dick" Cheney

Posted by: KZnextzone at June 02, 2011 01:14 AM

In which case, Weiner brought a toothpick to a swordfight.

346 You know, this place is too small for all our stuff.  Anthony's can just go in the front yard, am I right? 

347 >>>Well gentlemen, I'd like to pose a concrete objective: he never gets further than where he is now. Jeff B, "very vulnerable" isn't enough for me. I'm counting on some cannibalistic New York Dems to see his implosion as their entree to mayoral victory. Hell, I'll donate to their campaigns. I'll donate if there's some dog-eat-dog bastard who ventures to primary his ass in 2012.

Well here's the big secret about Anthony Weiner: nobody really likes him at all in NYC (or NY state) politics.  He's seen as a fake, an opportunistic.  Within the world of NYC Democrats, he was viewed for years as sort of a center-right guy (you have to understand...this is NYC we're talking about, but do note that Weiner's district is the most GOP-leaning of the Five Borough's outside of Mike Grimm's actually Republican one on Staten Island), in the mold of his predecessor in the Congressional seat he holds, Chuck Schumer.  (Again, yes: there was a time when Schumer was seen as a moderate of sorts, and not just a dependably liberal sleazebag.) 

And NYC politicos dislike him for the same reason they disliked Schumer: they saw them as outsiders, not "real" liberals, but canny opportunists who leveraged their centrist crossover appeal and media-whoring antics (Weiner was Schumer's aide when Schumer was Congressman -- he learned from the best) into a national profile that vaulted them ahead of fellow Dems who had actually "paid their dues." 

You have to remember -- again in the world of NYC politics, which is significantly to the left of the country as a whole, so adjust your visor accordingly -- prior to 2009 and push for Obamacare, Weiner had actually spent his career carefully acquiring credentials as being a moderate in the NY Dem caucus: voted for the Iraq War, very VERY pro-Israel, muscular foreign-policy guy, pro-Wall Street and business, etc.  Sure he's 100% pro-choice and anti-gun, but that's New York for you. 

It was only after Obamacare got rolling that he made the (brilliant) tactical decision to fight a battle that he knew was lost from the get-go: for the Public Option in the healthcare package.  He demagogued the issue up and down the halls of every single cable TV station on the planet, if you recall...and prior to that he wasn't very well known.  Now Weiner KNEW that there was never any chance of actually getting a public option into the bill, which is exactly why he chose that issue: he wanted to raise his national profile and become a hero to the left (specifically the Kos/online Left, which drives media buzz), so suddenly he pivots from being a "centrist Dem" to being a "hard left crusader."  Don't think for a moment that this didn't piss off a bunch of NYC politicos who understood exactly what Weiner was doing, and what his reasons were.  He lost the battle, but then he never intended to win.  He was playing for a different victory, and he won that one.

Finally, Weiner's a notoriously mean person.  I mean, this isn't even much of a secret anymore -- you keep seeing hints of it bubbling up in press accounts over the last few days -- but I'll just lay it out straight: he's easily one of the nastiest, rudest, most prickish cockholsters on Capitol Hill.  He's arrogant, shouts all the time, berates EVERYONE from staffers (an even higher turnover than Michele Bachmann, and that's saying something!) to fellow congressmen (ask Pete King!) to reporters.  Nobody really likes him, except of course the nutroots and the future voters of NYC whose opinion of him is formed by his newfound media celebrity.

That's why there is a lot of schadenfreude (as reported by Politico) right now in Dem circles, watching Weiner implode professionally.  He had no real allies, no real friends.  He's angered a lot of people, and his only real friends are in the MSM.

348 347 You know, this place is too small for all our stuff.  Anthony's can just go in the front yard, am I right? 

Posted by: Huma Abedin at June 02, 2011 01:20 AM

You sure are hon.

I'll be over with some lighter fluid and Haagen Das

Rocky Road?

349 Dr Ray Stantz: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid was shut off by dickless here.
Walter Peck: They caused an explosion!
Mayor: Is this true?
Dr. Peter Venkman: Yes it's true. - This man has no dick.

350
I still think he's toast next Monday. Something's gonna blow up this weekend. I just feel it in my bones, or gut, or wherever. Yeah.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 02, 2011 01:15 AM

Huma.

351 I still think he's toast next Monday. Something's gonna blow up this weekend. I just feel it in my bones, or gut, or wherever. Yeah.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at June 02, 2011 01:15 AM (UsjBj)

Maybe.  I just hope the story doesn't step on the toes of AoSHQ's E3 Coverage.  :/

352 Wow, Andrew Breitbart sure does attract the lunatic libtards, don't he?  Seeing what they are saying to him on twitter is like watching a ten-burrito shit swirl around the bowl.

353 Congratulations, Ace. Well done!

354
Finally, Weiner's a notoriously mean person.

I had the feeling this was so -- in the vein of Olbermann and Spitzer. May his mastication and digestion by fellow Dems be glorious.

Everything else I had no idea, except the part about his destined-for-defeat campaign for the Public Option. Thanks for the long post. You're on a roll tonight, Jeff B.

355 Jeff B.,

I think ace ought to seriously consider letting you do a post pretty much re-capping what you've been saying re:Weiner.

I sort of knew who Weiner was and what he was thanks to an opportunity to briefly observe him in person several years ago.  A lot of people know or think they know what a nasty P.O.S. he is, but you laid it all out...at 1:30 AM on a Thursday morning, when not many will see it

356

Howard Kurtz is now a girther:

"At the outset, I argued that Weiner was entitled to the presumption of innocence. ...  But after listening to Weiner bob and weave and talk about how photographs can be manipulated, and how heÂ’s called in experts to determine whether that is or isnÂ’t his junk, I have to say: heÂ’s not acting very smart. The explanations seem increasingly bizarre. In the court of public opinion, at least, Weiner has forfeited the presumption of innocence."

"Sending a young woman a lewd photo is not an impeachable offense, but it is monumentally bad judgment. Saying youÂ’re not sure if thatÂ’s you in the gray underwear is unimpeachably stupid."

357 "Finally, Weiner's a notoriously mean person. I mean, this isn't even much of a secret anymore -- you keep seeing hints of it bubbling up in press accounts over the last few days -- but I'll just lay it out straight: he's easily one of the nastiest, rudest, most prickish cockholsters on Capitol Hill. " I just realized yesterday that I met Weiner's older brother, Seth, a couple of times in the mid-to-late 90s. He was friends with my brother, and Seth seemed like a nice guy--somewhat shy and go-out-of-his-way polite. He was killed by a hit-and-run driver in 2000 (years after I last saw him). One funny thing: Seth was an FFL on the side. I vividly remember his handing me a business card with his name and FFL license number on it and saying, "Give me a call if you're shopping for hardware."

358 356 Jeff B.,

I think ace ought to seriously consider letting you do a post pretty much re-capping what you've been saying re:Weiner.

I sort of knew who Weiner was and what he was thanks to an opportunity to briefly observe him in person several years ago.  A lot of people know or think they know what a nasty P.O.S. he is, but you laid it all out...at 1:30 AM on a Thursday morning, when not many will see it

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth (Jeff B.'s New Fanboi) at June 02, 2011 01:31 AM (agD4m)

Agreed. Jeff's comment is post-worthy - especially in explaining the background for why pursuing weinergate is worthwhile even if Weiner doesn't resign.

359 Ace is on fire.  This Hayley Williams story is much more interesting.

360 Maet. Can you post Jeff B's analysis?

361 They say I'm a Weiner
But I'm not the only one
Here's a picture of my hot dog
Send me one of your bun.

362 >>>I sort of knew who Weiner was and what he was thanks to an opportunity to briefly observe him in person several years ago.  A lot of people know or think they know what a nasty P.O.S. he is, but you laid it all out...at 1:30 AM on a Thursday morning, when not many will see it

Thanks, Balrog (and coming from you I know it's a real compliment).  Care to share your personal anecdote?  Was he bigfooting people at a bar/club/restaurant?  Shouting at subordinates?  Just giving off general douchechills?

363 I guess since there is now some disagreement as to the veracity of the photo being Weiner's weiner, based on the size, we'll just have to start calling those defending him by saying its too big to be Weiner's,  the GIRTHERS.

364 361 Maet. Can you post Jeff B's analysis?

Posted by: journolist at June 02, 2011 01:43 AM (QM8jX)

Sure...unless Jeff B has an objection.

365 Hm, I like Jeff's post, but I tend to be anxious about posting stuff that is potentially defamatory that I can't confirm myself. I know he's a public figure. I like it, but I don't know.

366 Maetenloch -- you can feel free to frontpage what I wrote if you want. 

367 Ace -

I completely understand your reluctance to post anything potentially defamatory, of course, but I will point out that nothing in that post I wrote is defamatory.  It refers to his political record and his reputation among fellow NY politicos.  And THAT can be easily confirmed, in fact it's on my mind because I noticed that Politico was finally reporting about it tonight.

368 Ace -

Here's a guilt-free link to Politico (Ben Smith) basically confirming everything I've written:  http://tinyurl.com/4yn2xlr

369 isn't it kind of already posted?  I'm not an attorney but..

370 I would say all but the last paragraph of Jeff's comment is fairly standard political analysis. The last paragraph is harsher but doesn't seem defamatory if it was made clear that it's just Jeff's opinion.

371 Okay, Jeff, how about Friday? I need posting stuff on Friday. Maybe clean it up for a post instead of a comment, which is looser, obviously. I sort of want this post to be on top for tomorrow a.m. I'm about to bump it ahead of Arthur's DC comics reboot post.

372 The part about his high staff turnover: link to the NY Times: http://tinyurl.com/3l7o2h4

"Never shy about belting out R-rated language, he enjoys challenging staff members on issues, even at parties. And, in a city saturated with transient career hoppers, Mr. Weiner has presided over more staff turnover than any other member of the New York House delegation in recent years, according to an analysis of congressional data."

Another link on the same subject, to HuffPo: http://tinyurl.com/5hyvaa

373

While I like Jeff B's analysis, this is Ace's house and deference should be maintained to house trump. If it's OK with Ace and Jeff B. I can have it cross posted at Clarion Advisory and if the punk Weiner want's to sue me I'll be more than happy to submit a few interragatories in re. Weinergate.

If I have Jeff B's clearance, I'll have this posted on Clarion and perhaps a side bar post on AOSHQ if Ace is OK with it.

 

374 In the past 5 days: Lockheed Martin: Hacked Northrup Grumman: Hacked Google: Hacked Anthony Weiner: Hacked My guess is the Chinese are looking for things that are "stealthy".

375 From the great HuffPo article (back in 2008!):

"It started as a routine conference call. But at some point during the call, Representative Anthony D. Weiner became furious, convinced that his scheduler had not given him a crucial piece of information.

His scheduler, John J. Graff, who was in the next room, suddenly heard the congressman yelling at him through the wall.

Then, Mr. Graff recalled, Mr. Weiner started pounding his fists on his desk, kicked a chair and unleashed a string of expletives.

Two weeks later, Mr. Graff, a Navy veteran, became the latest of a sizable number of staff members who have resigned after an abbreviated stint with Mr. Weiner, a Democrat who represents parts of Brooklyn and Queens."

Yeah, this guy's a fucking prick and a half.

376 Seriously, just google "Anthony Weiner staff turnover" and a whole host of stories about what a raging cockmunch this guy is come up from all sorts of reputable sources.  It ain't exactly a state secret.

377 #363 Was he bigfooting people at a bar/club/restaurant?

 No, nothing as profound as all that, and I do not recall the details as well as I would like.  He was the featured VIP at the graduation/commissioning ceremony of the NROTC unit where I was then an instructor.  Dude shows up about halfway through, says a few words (that left me with the impression he had his eye on Gracie Mansion), then just leaves, trailed by his assistants.  Total driveby.

Maybe that's typical for him, but I've never seen anyone make a cameo appearance at a commissioning ceremony.  It's just not done.

To revisit a point you made earlier, i.e. he's a recent convert to moonbattery since he is looking to win a citywide race rather than just his district:  Amen.  The Progtards in Astoria and Long Island City would have backed some Working Families Whackjob before they would have supported the old Anthony Weiner.

378

Jeff B. I will cross-link your AOSHQ redacted analysis to Clarion on Friday when it's posted here.

 

379 Human behavior is a something most people just live with and don't think about day to day. Some people understand why chicks, cops, teachers, bloggers, reporters act the way they do. They tend to compartment their thoughts with their surroundings. Ace isn't doing that here. Ace has been around and learned (and read) enough to put his finger on a behavior that is explainable. This Congressman wanted to be a congressman for power.

380 And as for yelling at other congressmen, well that's a matter of public record: remember his major dust-up with Pete King last year over the 9/11 First Responders bill?  That was on live TV! 

381
Pajamas also has a story up about what a nasty prick and target for ambitious NY Dems Weiner is: http://tinyurl.com/3c594fu

382 This makes me a geek, but I feel like Dorfman in Animal House... "this is gonna be great!"

383 Lots of fun - exciting - watching this story develop from it's inception. Thanks!! 

2 questions (or maybe 1):
1) What is up with the patriot76 May 11 assertion that there would be some damaging pic or something coming out?
2) Same with Breitbart saying (early on) that more was on the way?

Is Weiner going to get hit with dic pic number 2 to another honey that Breitbart will disclose in Acorn-story-like fashion? 

I wonder if coeds will start coming out of the woodwork... kind of like Tiger's ladies - in which most people lost count after about 431 or so.

384 Ace --

I'll clean it up for Friday.  Send it to you tomorrow, I guess.

Funny, after posting on AoSHQ for like, eight years, this would be my first front-page post.  I guess I just always felt like I was born to haunt the comments.

385 #370 Yeah, but maybe it's something the 99.5% of the moron who are not here at !:30 AM on a Thursday morning ought to see, savvy?

386 Wow. Even Democrats don't like Weiner and his drama queeniness.

387 383 This makes me a geek, but I feel like Dorfman in Animal House... "this is gonna be great!"

Posted by: George Orwell at June 02, 2011 02:06 AM (AZGON)

Say...mind if we borrow your brother's car for the weekend? Don't worry - we'll gas it up before we bring it back.

388 Jeff B. you rock dude.

389 #385 Well, I'm just happy I finally managed to say something that Teh Bosses actually noticed...that had nothing to do with former Knicks basketball players, that is.

390 @382 Ooof... That PJM article has the ring of truth. There are probably lots of ambitious NY Democrats who want to see Weiner out of the way.

391 I'm gonna be seeing Breitbart in a week in SoCal. Oh, this is gonna be fun. Teh, heh, teh, heh.

392 >>>I'm gonna be seeing Breitbart in a week in SoCal. What occasion?

393 Jeff B's exegesis perfectly describes why this flatworm ought to be segmented. He's a firebrand for the hard Left, and needs a cool dip in a pool of obscurity.

394 #394.  Amen.

395 We see this blathering idiot on every news program.  Some people here insist he is intelligent.  I don't see it.  Quite the opposite.

396 If I could meet any one political "celebrity" from Our Team and hang out over drinks, it would be Breitbart (and maybe Gutfeld & Levy after him).  I admire that guy so fucking hard.

As in "diamond hard and photographed on Blackberry-cam through my boxer-briefs."

397 393 >>>I'm gonna be seeing Breitbart in a week in SoCal.

What occasion?

Posted by: ace at June 02, 2011 02:19 AM (nj1bB)

< Book signing and happy hour in Newport Beach.

398

I admire that guy so fucking hard.

 

That's not admiration.

399 Everyone do yourself a favor and download the Adam Carolla podcast with Breitbart last month. You will be pleased, very.

400 >>>We see this blathering idiot on every news program.  Some people here insist he is intelligent.  I don't see it.  Quite the opposite.

Oh I have absolutely no doubt that he's smart.  Stupid people don't survive and thrive in the meat-grinder of NYC Democratic politics, and furthermore his public appearances prove well enough to me that he's got a brain. 

But there's a difference (and I would know from experience!) between being smart and having good judgment.  Or being smart and being an irredeemable, arrogant asshole.  (In fact, those two often tend to go hand-in-hand, especially in politics.) 

I don't think a psych-profile of Weiner is particularly hard to figure out.  He fits the pattern of a lot of chip-on-the-shoulder politicians who suddenly find themselves "sexy" and "in demand" after years of being passed over by the opposite sex.

401 Hey... did you see that Drudge put some links up!?!?!?!  Wheh - Thanks for the timely help! 

Sheeesh....

402 #401 He fits the pattern of a lot of chip-on-the-shoulder politicians who suddenly find themselves "sexy" and "in demand" after years of being passed over by the opposite sex.

The change of circumstances must have been particularly jarring in his case since, were he to pull the back of his shirt collar up over his head, he's pretty much "Cornholio."

Look at a profile of Anthony and tell me he's not separated at birth from Beavis.

403 400 Everyone do yourself a favor and download the Adam Carolla podcast with Breitbart last month. You will be pleased, very.

Posted by: George Orwell at June 02, 2011 02:29 AM (AZGON)

Yes that was excellent. I was going to stick it on the ONT but totally forgot. You can listen to it here.

404 Everyone do yourself a favor and download the Adam Carolla podcast with Breitbart last month. You will be pleased, very.

already heard it.. laugh out loud funny..

405

We just put up a Phot Essay of Congressman Weiner over at Clarion Advisory.

Teh, heh, teh, heh.

406 Yeah... smart people are often found to also be really really dumb (lacking judgment as you said). I almost felt sorry for Weiner during some parts of this episode... but then of course, I remember who he is and what he represents.

Also, felt sorry (almost) for Huma.  Obviously, it is a poor-quality marriage when Weiner is looking for e-jollies with 20 year olds.  Just when her glow is fading fast, too... 

407 We just put up a Photo Essay of Congressman Weiner over at Clarion Advisory. Really? Is it truly Weiner? With certitude?

408 408 We just put up a Photo Essay of Congressman Weiner over at Clarion Advisory.

Really? Is it truly Weiner? With certitude?

Posted by: George Orwell at June 02, 2011 02:41 AM (AZGON)

< A dick for sure.

409 Let us not confuse smart with cunning. For example, Barry is very, very clearly not smart. He may remember lots of stuff, if in the wrong order and category, and he may be able to enunciate words if on TelePrompter. He can recite by rote post-modern pablum, like a ventriloquist dummy on the hand of someone reading Cliff Notes to PoliSci 101. However, he is not smart. Cunning, yes. Extremely cunning and clever, like a con man.

410 Haha opening on Red Eye includes "When will Arnold send Anthony a thank you note?"

411 Anyone think Drudge was just testing the power of the blogs?  Maybe hoping they could or couldn't do it on their own. 

412 DrewM gets a shout out on Red Eye.

413 Drew from Ace of Spades mentioned on RED EYE!

414 And the 'Stache is on too.

415 415 And the 'Stache is on too.

Posted by: buzzion at June 02, 2011 03:07 AM (oVQFe)

< NICE!!!!!

416 Eh, as unbiased as I can be... even when taking away all the aspects of Barry that I DON'T like, I just don't see what there is to be impressed about.  He can act kinda uppity pretty well and he can read the teleprompter, I guess.  All the wonderful characteristics attributed to him by the media is just that.

But back on topic with the likely similarity between Hayley Williams and Antony Weiner, from the very start it seemed open and shut to me (going completely by what Ace was reporting).  It was never really a question of did he do it,  but rather will this find traction over the long weekend.  Then, of course, the interviews totally confirmed it.  And, the "journalists" just couldn't keep from delving into it a little... I mean, when a US Rep is so obviously lying about sexting a young journalism major.  It's like he left them no choice, and now we'll see where it goes!

I think he'll weather it somewhat, but it will be a significant black-eye, and for the rest of his life people will smile to his face and laugh at his jokes... you know nice political laughter... and then as they walk away they will laugh at him.  And, when he hears the whispers, he should know that they are commenting under their breath, "sick uncle pervy weiner... actually thinks he's funny when he's actually equal parts of geek, desperate, power-hungry, and liar." 

His sway is forever seriously damaged.

417 His sway is forever seriously damaged.

Posted by: pud at June 02, 2011 03:12 AM (u6K6A)

< He will resign.

418

OK, 'IF' this was sent from his Gov owned Blackbury, using Gov paid for airtime, even on a Private Twitter Account...  it gets interesting.

There is NO Expectation of Privacy on Twitter, and the Rest is all Gov owned and thus open to Freedom of Information Act requests...

419 I still believe there must be someone savvy enough to prove this case with the uncropped photo that shows the unique flooring (if there is a real estate site or photos of his/neighbors condo).

420 Wait, can someone explain the context of the shoutout to DrewM on Red Eye?

421 420

OK, 'IF' this was sent from his Gov owned Blackbury, using Gov paid for airtime, even on a Private Twitter Account...  it gets interesting.

There is NO Expectation of Privacy on Twitter, and the Rest is all Gov owned and thus open to Freedom of Information Act requests...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 02, 2011 03:19 AM (NtXW4)

<Good call.

422 Apparently, London will kick off the 2012 Olympics by having Muslims blow the city up: Life-sized replica of Noah's Ark to sail up Thames for 2012 games

423 Oh, and a final cherry on the sundae that I'll put in the Weiner post going up on Friday: if he resigns (and he won't, but say if he did), his district isn't necessarily a slam dunk for the Democrats to hold.  I mean, it's still more likely than not, but Weiner only got 55% of the vote in 2004 (a Presidential year) and IIRC only 59% in 2008, which is particularly bad given that he's a decade-long incumbent and he was facing a no-name opponent with no money.  NY-9 has never gone GOP in its history, but it's gotten more GOP-leaning than any other district in the United States since 2000.  We could at least make it a race.

Something to chew on.

424 Greg mentioned him in the Gregalogue and part of his post on Weiner. "Drew from Ace of Spades Blog said..."

425 Oprah-Huma-Huma-Oprah: I still believe there must be someone savvy enough to prove this case with the uncropped photo that shows the unique flooring (if there is a real estate site or photos of his/neighbors condo). – - – - – - – - – - – Just scan it in and uncrop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUFkb0d1kbU

426
Also, felt sorry (almost) for Huma.  Obviously, it is a poor-quality marriage when Weiner is looking for e-jollies with 20 year olds.  Just when her glow is fading fast, too... 
Posted by: pud at June 02, 2011 02:40 AM

I just thought of something. What if that poor thing is pregnant? I realize I invite many jokes by posing this question, but I'd feel very sorry for her if this was the case.

427 Ace, the blog is fricking on fire. My compatriots over at the Daily Caller just mentioned AOSQH.  Check out Kaus files right sidebar.  Weinergate story.

428 lol @ davidr.  I have never seen that before but I did recently see a YT video that obviously stole their idea. 

The more I think about it the uncropped photo is probably the reason Weiner is taking the "could be manipulation" route because people (namely Huma) have seen that flooring before. 

429 Ace, I hope you get tons of traffic and link-love for this Weiner-takedown.

430

Ace, here is my tribute to you:

http://tinyurl.com/3t73yap

Keep 'em flying, Big Guy--you're the best!

431 Mr. Weiner has presided over more staff turnover than any other member of the New York House delegation in recent years,

Staff turnover. Is that like a wiener knish?

432

OK, just read Breitbart's Twitter Feed the Mickey Kaus wrote about over at the Daily Caller.  Question why is Breitbart seemingly now inquiring about this Wolfe guy's credibility. 

Someone explain this to me.

433 I think that Wolfe guy is just some dude that does trollish things on twitter.  I could be wrong, but I don't think he has anything do with any of this minus the left (or the coed) trying to use him as a scapegoat. 

434 Don't twee t. Don't have Twitter. But for those who do, couldn't you tweet something like "Anthony Weiner raped my chickens" from @farmerinthedell - or - "Anthony Weiner has been following my daughter's school bus", and then say "I'VE BEEN HACKED!"

435 I mean, according to lawmakers, pranksters are above the law, aren't they? Give me all your money and none of those ink-exploding rolls either! Great prank! Let's do another!

436 I mean, according to lawmakers, pranksters are above the law, aren't they?

see this is the thing - just assuming for one moment that his account WAS hacked, Weiner's reaction only guarantees that there will be more hackers, because he's demonstrated that he won't go after them.

437 Settle down, wingnuts.  Weiner hired some crack sleuths to get to the bottom of this.  Justice will be served.

438 see this is the thing - just assuming for one moment that his account WAS hacked, Weiner's reaction only guarantees that there will be more hackers, because he's demonstrated that he won't go after them.

Posted by: chemjeff at June 02, 2011 06:45 AM (7mSYS)

Dems don't understand incentives in government policies and laws.  Why do you think they'd understand them in their "personal" lives?

439

Justice will be served.

In his case it will be served as a cocktail frank.

440

Are you being trolled by any of Wiener's "media advisors " yet ace?

 

Surely you must be.

 

I submit that many of the se theories are originating with these advisors and then being propagated amoung the tubes by trolls.

441 It is time to take this to the next level: 

Is that a Tony in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?
Nine inches of steaming Tony......
There's a Tony in my pants and your invited.
Tony Trout, it's what's for dinner.
And then she grabbed my One Eyed Tony....
AW Root Beer has just taken on a new meaning.  But it works my friends!  It works!

We should cast Anthony Weiner as Young Frankenstein

442 Ace...if you are asking a certain commenter to write something up based on one of his extended comments, you may want to check this out..

It may violate Fair Use laws

443 Ace -

Here's a guilt-free link to Politico (Ben Smith) basically confirming everything I've written:  http://tinyurl.com/4yn2xlr

Posted by: Jeff B. at June 02, 2011 01:57 AM (hIWe1)

Funny how he "confirmed" what you wrote about 8 hours before your comment...and in remarkably similar language

444 " Weiner's reaction only guarantees that there will be more hackers, because he's demonstrated that he won't go after them."  chemjeff at June 02, 2011 06:45 AM

One can only hope.  If Weiner's accounts are actually hacked, wouldn't that put him between a rock and a hard place?  I mean, he'd almost have to report a real hack but that leaves him open to "exposure" on the fake one. 

445 Weenie has been on NY 880 radio every morning this week.  Amazing how the news readers can discuss the hack/prank and the listener can hear the 'wink, wink, say no more' in their voices.

446

 

But Cheeze Jonsin obsessively HATES Andrew Breitbart - so that means none of what you say, Ace, can be true. Cheeze Jonsin's hatred creates its own reality!

447 By what legal authority can Willie preside at a wedding?

448 This is an excellent post. It is very informative. Thank you so much. I'll be a regular viewer. wholesale lingerie Replica Handbags

449 It''s a short subject, but the crazed  weeny gate fans will keep milking it for all it's worth.  Certainly good for a couple of weeks of chuckles.

450 No no no! It was Glen Beck and Andrew Breitbart!

451 They caught the perp. It was his own right hand, caught during a sexual assualt on Weiner himself. His left hand was unavailable for comment.

452

If you are a Republican - this would sink you.

If you are a precious and corrupt welfare state democrat? Praise Jesus on the Maddow show!

453 re 461 Not even Republicans would be sunk by obviously fake scandals. Seriously. When Limbaugh and BillO think you're being stupid, you gotta take a look at yourself and realize that, hey, you've been bogarting that shit for far too long.

454 Beedubya --

You are such an irredeemable scumbag prick.  Thank you for accusing me of what, plagiarizing my insights or something.  But of course if you'd bothered to read my earlier post, I wrote just this:

"And THAT can be easily confirmed, in fact it's on my mind because I noticed that Politico was finally reporting about it tonight."

I mentioned the Politico article several times in this thread.  But of course all you want to do is deny me credit for something, I guess.  You're a worthless person.  You're so full of hatred that you can't even think.

455 Sorry .. I wondered .. how does Stewart know the real size of the tent pole?

456

462

Sure

457 Oh and Beedubya, did I plagiarize the stuff about Weiner being a rude nasty prick from Politico too?  Even though I provided links to old articles from the NY Times and the Huffington Post from 2008 and 2009?

In fact, what the fuck did I plagiarize at all?  You schmuckishly cited "Fair Use" in an effort to impugn my integrity -- because you're an aspersion-casting sack of crap -- but that would suggest I've just stolen someone's article word-for-word.  Guess what?  We covered similar subjects, OBVIOUSLY, so we said similar things about the matter.  But everything I wrote is my own language, for fuck's sake.  For you to accuse me of stealing someone else's words is lower that whaleshit, which coincidentally is exactly what you are. 

Seriously: between the attacks on my friends and family and now this (which in a way is worse), you're dirt.

458 I mentioned the Politico article several times in this thread.  But of course all you want to do is deny me credit for something, I guess.  You're a worthless person.  You're so full of hatred that you can't even think.
Posted by: Jeff B. at June 02, 2011 10:10 AM (hIWe1)

Go easy there , Skippy

Gee, the rest about weenie and the public option verbiage...and the Schmucky Schumer stuff look awfully damned familiar too.

Are you going to include in your post your reaking news aout the Joo parties and the Joo banks that all the political class Joos go too also

459 Within the world of NYC Democrats, he was viewed for years as sort of a center-right guy (you have to understand...this is NYC we're talking about, but do note that Weiner's district is the most GOP-leaning of the Five Borough's outside of Mike Grimm's actually Republican one on Staten Island), in the mold of his predecessor in the Congressional seat he holds, Chuck Schumer

Hmmmm........

Anthony Weiner, who spent most of his career as a media-friendly center-right (by local standards) outer borough Democrat in the Chuck Schumer model,

460 We own sex. 

461 In fact, what the fuck did I plagiarize at all?  You schmuckishly cited "Fair Use" in an effort to impugn my integrity -

Your integrity?? Huh?

No...Smith happens to read this blog and I'm sure he would have mentioned the fact to Ace that something from a post here is really, really, really close to something he has the rights to.

462 Anthony is such a dick.

463 Holy shit, Beedubya: Weiner worked for Chuck Schumer for years as an aide in his DC office and his Brooklyn field office.  He took his seat upon Schumer's leaving it for the Senate.  He patterned himself after his media style, TRANSPARENTLY.  And he spent his career prior to 2009 building centrist credentials, a fact which anyone who follows congress in DC knows about.  (Guess what?  I know reams and reams of crap about a TON of congressmen and senators...I blather about it all the time on this moronblog!)

And yet mentioning these things in a paragraph is like, plagiarizing from anyone else who makes the same well-known points?

You are beneath contempt. 

464 I guess you don't understand just how fucking mad accusations of plagiarism make me.  Leaving aside the fact that your understanding of the term from a legal perspective is childish (your use of "fair use" and citing of "having rights to" is ridiculous), morally the accusation is revolting to me. 

And yes, it's about fucking integrity.  I write what I write because it comes out of my head and onto the page.  Suddenly popping up in the comment thread here -- after a long history of attacking me in every savage and inappropriate way possible on this blog -- with the accusation that I simply stole (or cynically recycled) everything from Ben Smith...what, that's not an attack on my integrity?  Fuck you, buddy.  Seriously.  That gets people fired at the jobs I've worked in. 

You haven't proven your point, and you've hugely insulted me.  I know you don't care, because you almost certainly didn't even care about this "accusation" anyway (just another opportunity to give me shit, of course).  But you should know you're a worm.

465 Oh, and I almost forgot, fuck you forever for the casual accusations of anti-Semitism.

Hey Beedubya, why do you hang out on this blog anyway?  Is it just to stoke your rage against RINOs or something?

466 Posted by: Jeff B. at June 02, 2011 10:57 AM (hIWe1)

Oh, shut up, you imbecile

467 Oh, and I almost forgot, fuck you forever for the casual accusations of anti-Semitism.

No, I didn't call you anti-Semitic..or even imply it, you nitwit.

I ridiculed your  ridiculous statement that Podhoretz and Weiner have to know each other socially because they are both Jews from NY

468 Ace -

Did you get to see Costello at the Beacon this time around?  He was in great form!

- Z

469 Cliff Notes version of Ace's brilliant tome:  Occam's Razor

470

Okay, then why did he (& why do they) lie about it? If it's all good and life is an orgy, why lie about it? Just having fun anyway, right? Because of lying, y guess is that there is a moral compass in there somewhere, cuz he is protecting someone. no. I take that back. It is much more likely the thought process was , "man, this might hurt my reputation" rather than "dammit, this might hurt MY WIFE". 

 

471

The most compelling evidence that it was Weiner himself that sent the tweet is his lack of any call for a real investigation.  If, as Weiner claims, it was his political enemies that hacked the offending tweet, then why isn't he loudly calling for an FBI investigation.  The security implications of hacking a congressmens account, even for a trivial thing like this, would definitely justify an investigation.  Most repubs not only agree, but are calling for one themselves.

If an enemy hacker did this, wouldn't Weiner be eager for the FBI to find this enemy, and jail them for criminal hacking.  Launching his own investigation, outside of the FBI, and solely under his control, only makes sense if he, or someone close to him, was the one that did it, since he knows his own investigation would never charge him, and it provides a cover excuse for not calling in the real investigators, the FBI hackers unit.

The many leftists that still beleive that Briebart did the hack are almost as stupid as the farm animals in Animal Farm that continued to beleive Squealers ever more outlandish stories.  If Briebart actually did it, Weiner would be demanding the FBI investigate, since he would be delighted if Briebart was convicted of criminal hacking.  Weiners silence, in not calling on the FBI, can only be explained because he knows any FBI investigation would either implicate him, or somebody close to him.  I know some leftists are willing to swallow almost any lie from their fellow leftists, but in this case it is not only a lie, but an incredibly stupid lie.

As for those who say this is not worth worrying about, we have a case where a US congressmen is publically claiming he was criminally hacked.  Dont we need to find out the identity of this criminal hacker, so we can deter future hacks, or if their is none, find out whether this congressmen is lying to us?  When O'Reilly was hacked, he called in the FBI, and they promptly caught the hacker.  Is O'Reilly more deserving of protection than a US congressmen?  (Well maybe he IS more deserving than this lying weasel, but in normal cases my answer would be no.)