August 29, 2011

The DNC's Daily Newsletter "Politico" Wonders: "Is Rick Perry Dumb?"
— DrewM

Let me save you the trouble and skip to their conclusion...yes.

Among the bits of evidence?

China policy, for example, has surely not been much on PerryÂ’s mind during his time in Austin.

And that showed when, in an interview last week with Laura Ingraham, he responded to a question about whether a rising China is good for the United States with platitudes that prompted the conservative talk show host to complain that he was only offering “broad generalities.”

Anything beyond "hope' and "change" is far more detailed than Obama offered curing his campaign. Just a reminder, when Obama did dare to tread beyond platitudes in his campaign he failed miserably until he was able to cheat off John McCain's work.

Apparently flying planes in the military is for idiots.

Trained as an Air Force pilot right out of A&M, Perry was “taught to trust your information,” said Johnson.

And associates say the same lessons that Perry learned when he was flying C-130s apply now.

“Pilots execute flight plans,” said Miller. “They have a plan, they fly a certain pattern and that’s the way he’s always operated — he has a flight plan for what he’s trying to do and he executes.”

Where exactly does this guy think a flight plan comes from if not the pilot who has ultimate responsibility for the flight? I don't think being a pilot means you are a genius but it does mean a couple of things...

To fly a plane like a C-130 you have to understand how multiple systems work and interact with each other. You don't have to be an electrical engineer but you have to have a working knowledge of electrical systems. You don't have to be physicist but you have to have a passing familiarity with the physics of flight. You don't have to be a meteorologist but you have to have an understanding of weather and the mechanics of the environment you are going to fly into.

When you learn to fly, you get to learn a good bit about a lot of things. You might not be an expert on any one of these things but you have to be able to grasp the basics, how they interact with each other and how to balance competing challenges and limitations.

More importantly, as an intellectual exercise learning to fly (especially at the military level) means havi8ng a disciplined mind. You get hit with a lot of information and you have to be able to retain it, prioritize it and most importantly, when push comes to shove, be able to use it in the proper way.

That's actually not bad training for an executive when you think about it.

Mike Baselice, Perry’s longtime pollster, said his client is of the Ronald Reagan school of management: “Trust people and manage well.”

“His job is to go meet voters,” said Baselice. “We’ll figure out the details of the messaging.”

This of course has David "Big Brain" Frum in tizzy.

Voters would do well to ask: Who’s this “we” that will really be running the country during a Perry presidency?

Good advice to follow when considering voting for any candidate. This may come as news to Frum, but every President, Governor, and executive of any kind relies on advisers. No one can possibly master every bit of expertise required to run a large organizatio, especially one as large and complicated as the US government. Anyone who tries to do that is a fool who would be terrible at their job. (For more on the genius that is David Frum, here's a post I did at my little blog on his ideal health care plan. Short version...it's ObamaCare)

But even a presumed genius like Barack Obama has advisers (Tim "Turbo Tax" Giethner ring a bell?). Why just today the President nominated a new chairman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, Alan Krueger. Krueger's big idea a few years back? A $500 BILLION a year VAT. If that's smart, I'll take the so-called "idiot", thank you very much.

A lot of this comes down to what a person means by intelligence. Everyone just assumes Obama is a bright guy but there's precious little proof of it.

He hasn't released his college transcripts, so we have to take his academic genius on faith. Not that they would prove much beyond measuring his ability to regurgitate that approved liberal talking points to liberal professors.

We are told he's a "constitutional scholar" but his one bit of writing is a Harvard Law Review student note.

Even if you accept the premiss that Obama is a brilliant guy and we are lucky to have a man of such a singular intellect willing to lower himself to serve us, shouldn't we consider what that's gotten us? 9.2% unemployment when it was supposed to go no higher than 8%, an exploding deficit when he promised to cut it in half and yet..

Yet we simply are to accept on professions of Obama's mental genius on fatih (because you can be damn sure Politico will never do an investigation into Obama's intelligence).

This is the same garbage the press pulled on Reagan back in the day. He was the big talking, dangerous fool while Jimmy Carter was the thoughtful , well meaning intellectual. Which was the more successful President?

Politics is a results oriented business not a college faculty debating club. By that measure Obama has repeatedly shown he is an idiot that is in way over his head.

If Obama wants to be judged on the quality of his thoughts without the pesky problem of actually having to produce results, he should skip the reelection bid and get a cushy job at the college of his choice. The rest of us would be better off for it.

BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a sweat.

Posted by: DrewM at 06:53 AM | Comments (557)
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1 Give me a pilot as Commander in Chief vs. an ACORN lawyer any day!!!

Posted by: izoneguy at August 29, 2011 06:56 AM (i6Neb)

2 It's amazing how so many "smart" people keep coming up with nothing but dumb ideas

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 29, 2011 06:56 AM (1Jaio)

3 A C-130 is huge. It's the Texas of airplanes.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 29, 2011 06:57 AM (RZRz9)

4 Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 06:58 AM (UOM48)

5 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

And his political career is looking more and more coyote-esque every day.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 06:58 AM (8y9MW)

6 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 10:58 AM (UOM4

Well, direct them here.  I'm sure we can help with therapy.

The therapy may involve a rhetorical Louisville Slugger across the metaphorical cranium, but still.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 06:59 AM (8y9MW)

7 A malapropping multiscrewing of a morose disappointment. Or something like that.

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 29, 2011 06:59 AM (+JhHG)

8 what's amazing to me is that a person who proclaims himself a journalist (how smart do you have to be to be a journalist) is questioning the intelligence of a man who was educated at a great university, and trained as a pilot, and who has been a very effective governor of the most successful state in our union.

Posted by: raddave9 at August 29, 2011 06:59 AM (P8519)

9 Frum is such a horse's ass. A self-proclaimed conservative, yet the only thing he ever does is run down conservatives. That's it. That's his entire schtick. During 2008, he prefaced all his drivel by saying he was voting for McCain, then spent the rest of his time wailing about Palin and sucking up to Barky.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 07:01 AM (OK/vv)

10 Liberal meme:

Marching with a bullhorn >>> Pilot Training

Makes sooooooooo much sense.

Hey, where's that donkeydunce a-hole that's been trolling the blog the past few days. I'd like to see him defend this.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 07:01 AM (pLTLS)

11

I thought , going back to 2007, that we could not question the people/advisers/mentors with which a presidential candidate had chosen to surround/immerse himself.

Calvinball rule change?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2011 07:02 AM (4q5tP)

12 Has he ever taken charge of a Hurricane Command Center?  Huh?  Has he? 

Well.  There you have it then.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 07:02 AM (jx2j9)

13 I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a sweat.

I heard Obama is good at Superbowl picks.

Posted by: EC at August 29, 2011 07:02 AM (GQ8sn)

14 Oh good God, the genius is on TV now.
So much for the Dow.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 07:02 AM (p+mzQ)

15

A lib/left propagandist portraying a conservative Republican as "dumb"? Wow, we've never heard THAT one before.

Good Lord these are some of the most intellectually tedious and lazy people on the planet.

Posted by: SGT Ted at August 29, 2011 07:02 AM (arV2e)

16 Somebody ought to make that Politico reporter sit and watch that video compilation of the JEF speaking gobbledygook, then do a similar piece on him.

Somebody?  Somebody?

What's the use.  They have their theme and they will stick to it.

Posted by: I'm in a New York state of mind at August 29, 2011 07:03 AM (4sQwu)

17 Is politico now insinuating that being a C130 pilot is somehow inferior to being a community organizer?  Is that a fact...hmmmm,according to Obama's own damn book,he was a C AND D  student in high school,mostly just spent his time snorting coke. the "conservatives are stupid "meme is so maxed out it reminds me of Obama's credit card balances before he got into the race for the senate-remember that. and OT, what a completely saran wrap see through piece of bullshit photo op that picture of Obama at the FEMA headquarters was. The rolled up shirt sleeves, the phone, the place card- with Barack Obama-president of the United States- as if there is a still a fucking idiot left who hasn't seen his mug on the t.v. in one of his plethora of bullshit speeches? Seriously, that picture was pinned to the office bulletin board this morning,by the coffee pot and as gross as it is someone had impaled a dead fly on a pin and stuck it by his nose.

Posted by: sayoung at August 29, 2011 07:03 AM (k8Uie)

18 Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

Jane -- I joined the Tea Party because they didn't get into this sort of thing.

I've been noticing similar things in my (local area) mailings.
I hope it doesn't dilute or destroy the movement.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:03 AM (Qxe/p)

19 Obama is so smart he can put a flyer for a community rally onto a telephone pole using only 2 staples.

Let's see Perry do that.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 07:04 AM (p+mzQ)

20 You don't have to be an electrical engineer but you have to have a working knowledge of electrical systems. You don't have to be physicist but you have to have a passing familiarity with the physics of flight. You don't have to be a meteorologist but you have to have an understanding of weather and the mechanics of the environment you are going to fly into.

... but you do have to be a "climate scientist" in order to lie your ass off in exchange for federal grant money.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (e8kgV)

21 Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 11:02 AM (p+mzQ)

Which speech?  I've figured out he only has a few of them.

1) Life would be grand if it weren't for 'X'
2) Look at me and what I did.
3) Hey, this stuff is hard, I don't think you could do any better.

So, which one is this, and on what topic?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (8y9MW)

22 My late dad was an Air Force test pilot.  So by Politico's standards, I guess he was dumber than a sack of hammers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (UOM48)

23 These libtards are phoning it in. Anyone could see this from a mile away. Perry --> conservative --> stupid! Just as Dennis Prager says. SIXHRB. Sexist Intolerant Xenophobic Homophobic Racist Bigot It is all they have, being devoid of fact.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (AZGON)

24 Gee what a surprise.  They're starting on page one of Progressivism for Dummies.

Palin - dumb
W - dumb
Reagan - dumb
Goldwater - dumb
Eisenhower - dumb

Posted by: rockhead at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (ZMHGo)

25 BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a sweat.

And don't give us any of the "were it not for his stimulus package, unemployment would have risen to { 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, ... } percent" crap.

Posted by: No Whining at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (vM/sb)

26 I don't care about someone's IQ.  I care about their functional intelligence.  They need to be able to communicate their goals clearly, assemble and lead a good team of advisors, map out a plan of actions to achieve the goal, and actually accomplish their goals. 

Obama fails on every front. 

Perry has succeeded more often than he fails -- his two biggest failures being the Gardasil vaccine where he failed at communication and had to back off and the Trans Texas Corridor where he also failed at communication and lost. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (5H6zj)

27 Trained as an Air Force pilot right out of A&M, Perry was “taught to trust your information,” said Johnson.

And associates say the same lessons that Perry learned when he was flying C-130s apply now.

“Pilots execute flight plans,” said Miller. “They have a plan, they fly a certain pattern and that’s the way he’s always operated — he has a flight plan for what he’s trying to do and he executes.”

Making and following a plan is so stupid particularly when compared to Obama's  life is like a box of chocolates approach to government.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:05 AM (Hx5uv)

28 Perry is making all the right enemies.

Posted by: Bob Saget at August 29, 2011 07:06 AM (F/4zf)

29

I seemed to recall during the 2008 campaign that DNC media members would say that obama will overcome inexperience deficiencies by surrounding himself with the best and brightest.

So Republicans having advisors= retarded

Democrats having advisors= gravitas.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:07 AM (wuv1c)

30 ... I care about their functional intelligence. ...

I'm going to steal that phrase.  It's been hard to put into words.  "Common sense" doesn't work any more, because that's been buzz-word-ized.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:07 AM (Qxe/p)

31
Palin - dumb
W - dumb
Reagan - dumb
Goldwater - dumb
Eisenhower - dumb

Al Gore - genius
John Kerry - genius
Pelosi - genius
Barney Frank - genius
Maxine Waters - genius

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:08 AM (Hx5uv)

32 18 Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

Jane -- I joined the Tea Party because they didn't get into this sort of thing.

I've been noticing similar things in my (local area) mailings.
I hope it doesn't dilute or destroy the movement.

---

The Tea Party seems to be developing a bad reputation here in Utah with traditional Republicans for being fringe-y.  I've been asking folks about the caucus process that we have here and so far everyone I've asked about it has rolled their eyes and complained that it is dominated by fringe people -- and they are including the TP with the Paulbots in that category. 

I denounce myself. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:08 AM (5H6zj)

33 Their purported hypothesis is that Perry's dumb.

However, all of their evidence just points to the fact that Perry's not as knee-jerk, desperately narcissistic as The One- and therefore doesn't try to take sole credit for team accomplishments.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at August 29, 2011 07:08 AM (Jbj03)

34 Obama is a dangerously stupid asshole.

He has done nothing in his life that is of any merit or
note.

Other than the pigmentation of his skin, he will be just about the most unremarkable man to ever attain the Presidency.

Posted by: McLovin at August 29, 2011 07:08 AM (j0IcY)

35 Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)

Actually, this kind of thing was only a matter of time.  People can't focus on just one thing, to the exclusion of all else, for very long.  At some point, other things will factor in.

Now, as far as it goes, the Tea Party being anti-jihadi is fine (I'd prefer they stick to domestic things, like the AGW and other forms of Government over-reach, but it's not my call).  What I tend to think, though, is that too many Tea Party types are Fanatics of the first order (not a bad thing to be a fanatic about, after all), and so are more susceptible to being deceived when they get outside the zone they know, but are still in an area they care about.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (8y9MW)

36 18 Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

Jane -- I joined the Tea Party because they didn't get into this sort of thing.

I've been noticing similar things in my (local area) mailings.
I hope it doesn't dilute or destroy the movement.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 11:03 AM (Qxe/p)

Sadly, I'm hearing more and more negative crap from tea partiers about Perry.  It's wearing me out defending him and de-bunking the crap the Establishment and mainstream media are feeding them.

Dammit, do your own damned investigating!  I just sent Drew's post to several people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (UOM48)

37 Making and following a plan is so stupid particularly when compared to Obama's  life is like a box of chocolates approach to government.

Remember, Barky said a few months ago he was sick of listening to his advisers (who, Michelle assures us, actually learn more about their subject matter by listening to the Mentat-Emperor lecture them) , and was going to start relying on his gut instinct more often now. The mind boggles.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (OK/vv)

38
21 - it was running in another room, but it must've been #2 because it was short.

1 & 3 usually need long, drawn out elaborations, because well, we're so dumb we don't get it.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (p+mzQ)

39
And his political career is looking more and more coyote-esque every day.

As legal representative of Wile E. Coyote and Acme Corporation, this is bordering on libel. While Mr. Coyote is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, he is has not achieved the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure level of fail.

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (1hM1d)

40 This may come as news to Frum, but every President, Governor, and executive of any kind relies on advisers.

I seem to be thinking of a President who needs an army of experts to make every decision for him, then take all the credit for the successes then blame the experts for the failures.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 07:09 AM (0q2P7)

41

This actually goes deeper.

This is the credentialed class (reporters, the academy, pundits, etc) trying to push the notion that formal education, degrees and clearly defined knowledge is necessary for sucess or higher office.

They are mad that there is still a party which occasionally let's people who don't meet that criteria run for office.

It's kinda funny considering the original democrats, the Jacksonian democrats, had the exact opposite mindset from modern democrats.

 

 

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:11 AM (wuv1c)

42 37 ... Mentat-Emperor ...
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 11:09 AM (OK/vv)

Priceless!

Posted by: No Whining at August 29, 2011 07:11 AM (vM/sb)

43 Barkey's jobs plan that he promised us the moment he got off the golf course is to hire another leftard Keynesian economist?  Heavens to Mergatroid, I'm so impressed!@  I feel hope and change already. 

Posted by: Aunty Entity at August 29, 2011 07:12 AM (FU3yL)

44 Even better - some liberal show us how, if it is so that President Obama is such a brainiac - it has been of good to the Presidency and the United States?

Posted by: blaster at August 29, 2011 07:12 AM (l5dj7)

45 Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 11:08 AM (5H6zj)

My local Tea Party (Arlington, TX) seems the same way to me.  Everything seems to be "end of the world!" Joe Barton, of all people, is being called not conservative enough (Joe Barton is not exactly weak-tea, here, people).

So, I keep abreast of their emails, and take a look at issues they raise, but that's about it.

Like I said, the ones who have kept the actual organizations going tend to be (from what I've seen) fairly fanatical.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:12 AM (8y9MW)

46 So Perry is going to get pummeled by the media labeling him "dumb."  How original.......

Seriously, I'm amazed at how easy it is to read and predict the left.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 29, 2011 07:12 AM (ycuSb)

47

Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

The Tea Party is an organic movement of individuals getting together of their own free will.

Every organization that has Tea Party in it's name or sends out mass e-mail shouldn't be considered Tea Party, but rather late comers hoping to co-opt a grass roots movement.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:12 AM (wuv1c)

48 Sadly, I'm hearing more and more negative crap from tea partiers about Perry.  It's wearing me out defending him and de-bunking the crap the Establishment and mainstream media are feeding them.

I think it may be good to just let it lie for a bit.  If Palin jumps into the race, they will have to shift their attention to defending her record and if she doesn't jump into the race, they will have to actually find a candidate.  Right now they don't have a candidate so they don't have to defend their candidate, they only have to attack other peoples' candidates. 

Plus, Perry needs to do some debates, which I think are coming up this week or next iirc.  Once he does that, you can direct them to those clips and let Perry refute their charges in his own words, as it were. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (5H6zj)

49 "“Pilots execute flight plans,” said Miller. “They have a plan, they fly a certain pattern and that’s the way he’s always operated — he has a flight plan for what he’s trying to do and he executes.”" That is so dumb. This guy makes it sound like flying a plane is the same thing as "driving" a car on the mini-freeway at Disneyland, where you can't possibly go off the track. My younger brother is training to be a military pilot right now. He has a degree in a technical field and he does really well on the academic side of his flight instruction, but flying is really, really hard to learn. I expect that once he's mastered the skills, it's going to be easier, but the cognitive burden of the training process is just incredible.

Posted by: Amy P at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (yOQ4W)

50 I just read the article, and I thought it wasn't that derogatory. 

In fact, the part about being a pilot was laudatory.

I took it as a profile of someone who is considered a very successful politician.

Posted by: cdm at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (eRGf1)

51 Barkey's jobs plan that he promised us the moment he got off the golf course is to hire another leftard Keynesian economist?

That's one job created, wingnut!

Posted by: Barky O'Economics, Counting Expert at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (OK/vv)

52 "I would therefore agree with the suggestion that in the future, our concern in this area ia [sic] most appropriately directed at any employer who would even insinuate that someone with Mr. Chen's extraordinary record of academic success might be somehow unqualified for work in a corporate law firm, or that such success might be somehow undeserved. Such attributes speak less to the merits or problems of affirmative action policies, and more to the tragically deep-rooted ignorance and bias that exists in the legal community and our society at large.

Barack Obama
President, Harvard Law Review
Published November 16, 1990"


Here's one sample of the idjit's own work (from the American Thinker).  Cashill takes it apart quite well (link on name)

Posted by: observer at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (efCl9)

53 *success

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:13 AM (wuv1c)

54 I thought Rick Perry was an Islamofacist because Aga Khan's ancestor during the Crusades was an assassin.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 29, 2011 07:14 AM (FkKjr)

55

Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!!

But how does ho feel about big, fake, titiies?

Posted by: Pam Geller at August 29, 2011 07:14 AM (2P5tX)

56 Of course they were going to throw out the dumb card. They've done it to every Republican President since day one. They are so used to it that if Romney becomes the nominee they will even attempt it with him, they will just use the opposite tact. He's book smart but has no common sense or street smarts.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 07:14 AM (s0uvO)

57 41 It's kinda funny considering the original democrats, the Jacksonian democrats, had the exact opposite mindset from modern democrats.
Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 11:11 AM (wuv1c)

Jacksonian Democrats would smack today's Metrosexual Grievance-Mongering Democrats alongside the head several times with extreme prejudice, crack open a keg of whiskey, and play stud poker while sitting on the corpses.

Posted by: No Whining at August 29, 2011 07:14 AM (vM/sb)

58 @48
Of course, I stupidly forgot about Bachmann.  I suppose she's pulling a fair number of TPers. D'oh!

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:15 AM (5H6zj)

59 Oh, and Insty had a link to a story that Colin Powell is undecided on who he will vote for in 2012. Now, I guess people are talking to him because they want him to say bad things about Cheney, but, seriously, who the hell cares who he is planning to vote for at this time? My guess is that my prediction that Powell be named VP has been investigated to the point of somebody asking him about it, at least by proxy, and he is answering no, at least by proxy.

Posted by: blaster at August 29, 2011 07:15 AM (l5dj7)

60 @janed'oh-us too, we are in savannah and there is a small,yet persistent few people in our tea party who keep putting out all of the same Rick Perry loves Muslims bs,problem is these are nice,decent people,but some get their news from WND and sites like that.  I get the feeling they are backing a different candidate and are looking for stories that fit their narrative Ask for proof and they give out links to these places. This is why I don't think the tea party should pick a single candidate to back,it devolves into a debacle, just better for us to back conservative causes in our own way and vote for our choice in the primary, THEN get behind the nominee if they so choose

Posted by: gapeach at August 29, 2011 07:16 AM (k8Uie)

61

But is he a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?

I think not.

Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2011 07:17 AM (2P5tX)

62 Barack Obama is a sluttering gutterskank of strumpetting disease. Also a Stuttering Clusterfuck of Miserable Failure.

Posted by: Vercingetorix at August 29, 2011 07:17 AM (N8eC4)

63 Oh, and Insty had a link to a story that Colin Powell is undecided on who he will vote for in 2012. 

Colin Powell, Colin Powell, hmmm that name seems vaguely familiar.... Wasn't he Norman Schwatzkoph's second banana?

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:17 AM (wuv1c)

64 This isn't evidence of intelligence, but is evidence of his socialist/Marxist intent to deconstruct our capitalist system, and to replace it with a model of wealth redistribution and the rule of man versus the rule of law.

In summary, then, it's basically his intelligence.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:17 AM (Qxe/p)

65 Posted by: gapeach at August 29, 2011 11:16 AM (k8Uie)

Remember: Request primary sources.  They almost never actually have them.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:18 AM (8y9MW)

66 Rick Perry's toenail fungus > Barry Soetoro

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 07:18 AM (GTbGH)

67 The only people who think pilots are stupid are democrats and aircraft mechanics.

Posted by: huerfano at August 29, 2011 07:18 AM (kD+se)

68 The CinC wouldn't last one day in flight school.

Posted by: CDR M at August 29, 2011 07:19 AM (Ybl9g)

69 yeah right.  If Rick Perry likes Muslims beyond being as civil to them as he would to an Episcopalian, then I am a Chinese typewriter.  This guy is a real Texican.  Texicans are not Muslim-loving jihadis.  worry about something else.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at August 29, 2011 07:19 AM (/Sgtl)

70

A C-130 is huge. It's the Texas of airplanes.

A C-5 is the Texas of airplanes.  A C-130 is the Ohio of aiplanes

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 07:19 AM (sbV1u)

71 The "Republican guy is stoopid" meme is as predictable as it is tiresome as it is wrong.  Bill Whittle had a brilliant takedown of the tactic as applied to Bush.  It applies equally to Perry.  Only the aircraft differ.  

Posted by: Orville at August 29, 2011 07:20 AM (Xv7f/)

72 "“Pilots execute flight plans,” said Miller. “They have a plan, they fly a certain pattern and that’s the way he’s always operated — he has a flight plan for what he’s trying to do and he executes.”"

Yes no pilot ever actually makes his (her) own flight plans. No pilot ever has to re-route in flight. No pilot ever has to deal with emergencies of any kind especially geese in his engines.

Pilots are just overpriced bus drivers, right?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 07:20 AM (0q2P7)

73 If Barry had been a pilot of a rubberband airplane, he'd would be the bravest and smartest man in recorded history.

Posted by: Honey Badger at August 29, 2011 07:20 AM (GvYeG)

74 "We are told he's a "constitutional scholar" but his one bit of writing is a Harvard Law Review student note." He's a constitutional scholar in the same sense that William Shatner is captain of a starship. Except that Shatner got laid a lot and didn't ram his ship into a planet at lightspeed.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:20 AM (AZGON)

75 Everyone just assumes Obama is a bright guy but there's precious little proof of it.

Barry was not even a National Merit Semi-Finalist.

Barry a genius?  Case closed.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 07:20 AM (GTbGH)

76

This is the credentialed class (reporters, the academy, pundits, etc) trying to push the notion that formal education, degrees and clearly defined knowledge is necessary for sucess or higher office.

They are mad that there is still a party which occasionally let's people who don't meet that criteria run for office.

It's kinda funny considering the original democrats, the Jacksonian democrats, had the exact opposite mindset from modern democrats.

I think that the reason that the progressives despise us as much as they do is not that we are racist, homophobic imperialists but rather that we refuse to recognize their obvious superiority.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:21 AM (Hx5uv)

77 A C-5 is the Texas of airplanes.  A C-130 is the Ohio of aiplanes

The DC-10 is the California of airplanes.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 07:21 AM (0q2P7)

78 ultimately he could have wrote an article that was only a few sentences long,

"if you oppose ear leader your dumb.

if your a republican your dumb"
its obvious your dumb if you are against liberals, and finnaly--

we're smart becuase we're libs, and we asteem ourselves highly alll evidence to the contrary be damned...

this is the worn out attack meme they have trotted out for as long as I can remember, they even did it to reagan.and we still have to keep taking it appart...

Posted by: rumcrook at August 29, 2011 07:21 AM (60WiD)

79 Come on fellas. My friend Rick may not be the sharpest tool in the shed but as FDR stated in his television address right after the market crash , who am I to judge except to the extent of my fear of fear or something like that.

Posted by: Joe 'brainiac' Biden at August 29, 2011 07:21 AM (s0uvO)

80 The CinC wouldn't last one day in flight school.

wingman:  BAMMER -- bogey at your three o'clock.
bammer:  umm, ahh, umm, MAYDAY! heads up display non functional.

... punches out, blames it on wingman

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:22 AM (Qxe/p)

81 Who gives shit what Politico's opinion is, considered or not (and this article obviously comes under the heading "Not"). Those of us worried about getting the unemployed work, reducing the size and scope of governmental interference in our lives and reducing the unfathomable financial commitments the smart guys made without, you know, thinking can come back to worrying about Politico's extra-editorial partisanship after we've cleaned up the frigging mess.

Posted by: MTF at August 29, 2011 07:22 AM (BkWdZ)

82 Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 11:20 AM (GTbGH)

Actually, they're just using a long discarded definition of genius.

Today, we might say (to keep up with the times a little better) Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:22 AM (8y9MW)

83 The only people who think pilots are stupid are Democrats and aircraft mechanics.


Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 07:22 AM (eEfYn)

84 Pilots are just overpriced bus drivers, right?

Maybe if he had been a high speed rail engineer we could respect him.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2011 07:23 AM (Hx5uv)

85 Well ya know anyone stupid enough to have joined the Military must be an idiot? At least that is what liberals think.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:23 AM (i6RpT)

86 I like the "flying an airplane is the same as reading a teleprompter" thing they got going there.
Remember the "Jesus was a community organizer" bs? Same shit, even weaker.

Posted by: Jimmuy at August 29, 2011 07:23 AM (6KlT6)

87 A little nugget from that toolbox Kathleen Parker today:

Perry’s campaign strategy is to talk only about jobs, jobs, jobs, no matter what the question. That’s both smart and necessary, but jobs-jobs-jobs isn’t the money trinity with his base. Perry already hit that station with his prayer rally and various dog whistles to the congregation: He’s not sure anyone knows how old Earth is, evolution is just a “theory,” and global warming isn’t man-made.

Perry understands that his base cares more that the president is clear on his ranking in the planetary order than whether he can schmooze with European leaders or, heaven forbid, the media. And this is why Perry could easily steal the nomination from Romney.

And also why he probably canÂ’t win a national election, in which large swaths of the electorate would prefer that their president keep his religion close and be respectful of knowledge that has evolved from thousands of years of human struggle against superstition and the kind of literal-mindedness that leads straight to the dark ages.

Faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, but Perry makes you think they are.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 07:23 AM (UOM48)

88 Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 11:17 AM (wuv1c) I'd still like to see Powell grilled on his past statements on Obama and how they fit with his record because I sure as hell haven't seen anything from Obama that comes remotely close to what Powell talks about. If Powell was truly an "impartial" voter as he repeatedly states, he'd address this. He comes off as afraid to say that Obama is SCOAMF. Until he can criticize Obama, his words don't mean shit.

Posted by: CDR M at August 29, 2011 07:24 AM (Ybl9g)

89 @66-you got that right,it's always linked right back to either WND or Gellar. No matter how many times you try and explain, you get told things like "Muslim's lie,it's in the Koran" and crap like that. Luckily, I am backing Perry- I know he ain't perfect but that makes him more acceptable to me and like someone above said-he's made all of the right enemies. I'm a dedicated researcher, always have been-others aren't and buy this crap

Posted by: gapeach at August 29, 2011 07:24 AM (k8Uie)

90 Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 11:23 AM (i6RpT)

And, worse, after leaving the military, he went back home to work the family farm.  Must be a complete imbecile.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:24 AM (8y9MW)

91 "Every organization that has Tea Party in it's name or sends out mass e-mail shouldn't be considered Tea Party, but rather late comers hoping to co-opt a grass roots movement.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 11:12 AM (wuv1c)


Sorry, Ben, but it's the original Tea Party group here (that I was a part of) that is chasing people away. It's their way or the highway - everybody's a RINO - the world is coming to an end..blah, blah, blah.  They no longer want to advocate for a candidate, they just want to scream about fringe issues.  Seriously, they've gone from 300 people down to 50.  It's actually very sad. 

Posted by: prettypinkfluffypanties at August 29, 2011 07:24 AM (/uJoK)

92 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 11:19 AM (sbV1u)

Heh.

That said, C-130s don't get enough credit for being a remarkably flexible and reliable aircraft. They really are the fixed wing workhorse of the military.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 29, 2011 07:25 AM (dXPup)

93 Jeebus, another dumb Republican. When will America ever produce a smart one? Rick Perry bitches. That goes double for the Ivy Leaguers. God I hate smarmy metrosexuals.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 07:25 AM (0M3AQ)

94 "The DC-10 is the California of airplanes." Given Clownifornia's finances and politics, perhaps it is the Spruce Goose. Or de Haviland Comet.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:26 AM (AZGON)

95 On picking advisors, Machiavelli said the first and best way to judge a "prince" (and by that he meant a political leader) was to examine the quality of their advisors.

Good advisors mean the leader has good judgement and is getting good counsel, with the converse being true as well.


Posted by: looking closely at August 29, 2011 07:26 AM (gFHcn)

96 Barry wouldnt have the balls to fly a kite ... well OK ... maybe a kite ...

Posted by: Honey Badger at August 29, 2011 07:26 AM (GvYeG)

97 The DC-10 is the California of airplanes.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 11:21 AM (0q2P7)

The DC-8 is the Teegeeack of airplanes.

Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at August 29, 2011 07:26 AM (FkKjr)

98

If the radar goes out...er...uhm...and you have no radar...well, then...uh...you're going to have to...ah, you know...if you just gave the pilot a thermometer...I mean, er...uh barometer...then you know, he could...uh, land the plane.  You know?

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at August 29, 2011 07:27 AM (2P5tX)

99 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 11:23 AM

Oh, dear Lord, save us from "friends" like this.

I love the "dog whistles" barb there: we can't remind people that southerners in general, and southern conservatives specifically, are racist often enough.  (Inasmuch as people only use the term "dog whistles" when race-baiting, I don't feel bad pointing that out at all).

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:27 AM (8y9MW)

100 The DNC and their assorted media hordes ('hos) are setting themselves up to "misunderestimate" Rick Perry.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 07:27 AM (9hSKh)

101 Faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, but Perry makes you think they are.

Faith in God and Jesus:  obvious moron.

Faith in Marx and Lenin:  obvious genius.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2011 07:27 AM (Hx5uv)

102 "The DC-10 is the California of airplanes."

Given Clownifornia's finances and politics, perhaps it is the Spruce Goose. Or de Haviland Comet.

The Osprey.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:28 AM (8y9MW)

103 Seriously, bash Perry on foreign policy chops? Who was it that needed to hire someone to validate his campaign's foreign policy creds... And picked Joe Biden?

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:29 AM (AZGON)

104 Obama won't release his transcripts because he's too modest!

Posted by: Typical Libtard at August 29, 2011 07:29 AM (niZvt)

105 98 Barry wouldnt have the balls to fly a kite ... well OK ... maybe a kite ...       I've seen Sparky pitch. Can you imagine him running to get a kite airborne? Would he wear a helmet? Special Olympics indeed.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 07:29 AM (0M3AQ)

106 BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a sweat.

I also note that we're nearing 45 minutes, and not one of our resident trolls (or even the few principled lefties who drop by from time-to-time) have commented on this part of the post.

I wonder why that is.

Oh.  Yes.  Because Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:31 AM (8y9MW)

107 Just as I'm sick of the liberals intelligence=vindication credo, I'm getting tired of our response of "but your guy's not reeeeely smart." I think Obama does have a fair amount of brains, but it's been so highjacked by his narcissism that all it's used for is manufacturing blames and rationalizations to shore up his ego. The greater the schism between reality and his internal image, the more intricate the sophistries have to be. The result is that paradoxically it takes an immense amount of intelligence to continue to be that stupid.

Posted by: Sistrum at August 29, 2011 07:31 AM (0ohaR)

108 Well, I'll be Obama's uncle.
- Omar

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 07:31 AM (OhYCU)

109 1) The Politico article lies about the Ingraham interview. She asked him about China. He responded. She then challenged him to go beyond generalities. WHICH HE THEN DID. This is the same sort of "black cloud" selective editing that you're going to see a whole lot more of between now and November.

2) For those who want to argue that it "could have been worse" on the economy, you need to first explain why the normal business cycle suddenly ceased existing the moment Obama took office. Throughout history, economies have gone up and down with recoveries following recessions/depressions.

For all of Obama's rhetoric about the "next Great Depression," the past recession lasted exactly TWO MONTHS longer than the average recession. If you look at the rate of GDP growth, the pattern is very obvious: It hit bottom in 2008 Q4. EVERY QUARTER following that one the rate of GDP growth improved.

Right up until ObamaCare passed in March 2010. From that point on, the GDP growth DECLINES every quarter.

The ONLY impact Obama has had on the economy has been the passage of ObamaCare, and the impact of its passage is undeniably clear.

Posted by: Jim B at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (QD3//)

110

Ok let me get the calculus Straight:

Dumba$$ from Texas + Mediocre College +Hair = Air Force pilot.

Something doesn't add up.  I love it when my intelligence is insulted with this tripe.

 

Posted by: rob at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (RDhnw)

111

The problem isn't that Obama is stupid.

It's that he THINKS he's so incredibly smart he can run the entire US economy and the lives of 310 million people better than they can do so for themselves.  And he THINKS he's so smart that prolonged 9%+ unemployment, a terrible housing recession, and pathetic economic growth MUST be due to someone else's mistakes, and not to the government's failed policies which he has prescribed.

It takes brains to know that NOBODY is, or ever can be, that smart. 

So by that standard, Perry is much smarter than Obama.

Posted by: Kortezzi at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (piR98)

112

The Tea Party is an organic movement of individuals getting together of their own free will.

Every organization that has Tea Party in it's name or sends out mass e-mail shouldn't be considered Tea Party, but rather late comers hoping to co-opt a grass roots movement.


This - if they're collecting dues and claiming to represent me, they're just some out of work asshole looking for a community organizer position. Are you listening Arme and Hannity?

Posted by: working man's PhD at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (le5qc)

113

There is an easy way to settle this.

Someone needs to tell Perry that if your hand is bigger than his face, he's an idiot....

 

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (wuv1c)

114 Pshop wish list: Barry driving a C-130 in mom jeans and a bike helmet. Down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:32 AM (AZGON)

115 Hey Perryheads, you don't really think you're going to avoid having your candidate Palinized, do you? Think he's "too good" for that?

They already showed us what levels they will stoop to to destroy someone. There's no limit, because you are dealing with power-hungry fucks who have no moral compass and zero compunction with regards to fucking their enemies. Many in the conservative movement sat back and let it happen to Palin and even helped it along by agreeing that they "had a point" with some of their dreadful bullshit, not realizing it was us and not she who was actually under attack.

Some of you have now latched onto Perry, thinking it will somehow be different because he's so amazing or something. It's not going to be pretty and I genuinely hope he skates through it with minimal damage, especially because Bambi is so weak right now. But you were warned.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 07:33 AM (2MjOo)

116 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 11:28 AM (8y9MW)

Actually, the Osprey has improved tremendously in recent years.

Maybe it's the Wisconsin of aircraft.

Posted by: DrewM. at August 29, 2011 07:33 AM (dXPup)

117 So it's ok to discriminate against people for their accents and for their region, is it? Check out old NASA footage from Apollo-days, check out how many southern accents you see there! And when Hillary and Obama start dropping their g's for certain select audiences - WTF is that? Are they dumbing it down for those audiences? I wonder what those audiences think about that?

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 29, 2011 07:33 AM (JNqU9)

118

It should also be noted that the media was floating that Perry was a Dominionist just a few weeks ago.

So in July he's a Christian Supremicist and in August he's a Muslim. I can't wait until they say he's a Jew or Zorastrian.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:34 AM (wuv1c)

119 Something doesn't add up.  I love it when my intelligence is insulted with this tripe.

Last time around we had a NAVY pilot.
So there's that ...

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:34 AM (Qxe/p)

120 Barry O is magnificently trained.  He can operate quite effectively when he sticks to his training.

When he has to vary from what he's trained for, or when his trained processes don't match up with what reality calls for...well, I think the record speaks for itself.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at August 29, 2011 07:34 AM (GBXon)

121  be respectful of knowledge that has evolved from thousands of years of human struggle against superstition and the kind of literal-mindedness that leads straight to the dark ages.

Faith and reason are not mutually exclusive, but Perry makes you think they are.


 

Follow up question for Miss Parker :  So, assuming you ascribe to the Theory of Evolution - What is the bennefit to the species of Homosexuality?  If it isn't an inherited trait, is it an aberration / negative mutation?  How does it help a species select for its enviornment?

Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2011 07:34 AM (2P5tX)

122 Here is how Perry is Amazing compared to Palin.  He never quit his job.

Posted by: rob at August 29, 2011 07:35 AM (RDhnw)

123 "He is not an ideas man. Perry hasnÂ’t spent his political career marking up the latest Cato or Heritage white papers or reading policy-heavy books late into the night. Advisers and colleagues have informed much of his thinking over the years."

So? Policy wonks are only one subset of politician. Further, they are not always skilled communicators and/or doers.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 29, 2011 07:35 AM (o2lIv)

124 So Perry is stupid for having flown an Air Force Jet in the defense of his country but obama/michelle are smart for having figured it takes 2 757 Jets to get to Martha's Vineyard?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:35 AM (i6RpT)

125

BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a sweat.

How's this? He got himself elected to the most powerful  position in the world without a track record demonstrating even  a shred of competence, before or after. Surely, that counts for something.

Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 07:36 AM (uVnnt)

126 120 Hey Perryheads, you don't really think you're going to avoid having your candidate Palinized, do you? Think he's "too good" for that?

So what's your point? 

Seriously.  Are we traitors to Palin, who was qualified three years ago to be VP but not to be POTUS, for not backing her for an office she is not running for today?  Is your recommendation that we should back her, despite her shortcomings, out of principle? 

What's your plan? 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:36 AM (5H6zj)

127 I would bet a tidy sum that Obama's IQ would not exceed 115.

Posted by: Joe 'brainiac' Biden at August 29, 2011 07:36 AM (s0uvO)

128

>>How's this? He got himself elected to the most powerful position in the world without a track record demonstrating even a shred of competence, before or after. Surely, that counts for something.

This is his only accomplishment, and it isn't even his. The credit should go mainly to his production team, campaign team, George Bush's Presidency of Errors, and the MSM.

All he did was show up and read the lines on the teleprompter.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:37 AM (wuv1c)

129 "I can't wait until they say he's a Jew or Zorastrian." Anton LaVey is looking forward to a lurch on book sales next year.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (AZGON)

130 Reliable sources have confirmed that Perry has an alter to the god Jupiter in his office and regularly sacrifices goats on it.  Some suspect that the fire in the governor's mansion was the result of a goat sacrificial fire burning out of control.

Posted by: MBM at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (Hx5uv)

131 This is the same sort of "black cloud"


RAAACIIISSSST!!!!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (0q2P7)

132

>>>>What's your plan? 

1.Alienate everyone within and outside of the party

2.?????

3. President Palin

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (wuv1c)

133 Other than the pigmentation of his skin, he will be just about the most unremarkable man to ever attain the Presidency.
Posted by: McLovin at August 29, 2011 11:08 AM

If only this were true!

I guess if someone who is executing a vengeful campaign of willful destruction against the country that has, at every step in his life,  given him far more than he ever earned is "unremarkable," then the SCoaMF-in-C qualifies.

Posted by: MrScribbler at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (YjjrR)

134 All he did was show up and read the lines on the teleprompter. Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 11:37 AM (wuv1c) Well and look clean

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (i6RpT)

135 The article has a good closing:

“The political graveyard in Texas is buried full of people who have underestimated Rick Perry,” he said. “We had a U.S. senator who did that and she didn’t even make the run-off. Sooner or later, they’re going to figure out that he’s not just lucky, he’s good.”

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (o2lIv)

136

Barack Obama once defeated Vizzini in a battle of wits woithout an immunity to iocane.

He also beat the WOPR at tic-tac-toe.

Posted by: Baron Von Ottomatic at August 29, 2011 07:38 AM (VoetP)

137 Didn't see THAT coming

Posted by: every Republican candidate since Chicxulub rung the Earth like a gong at August 29, 2011 07:39 AM (/EsON)

138 Maybe Perry is a follower of Kali Ma.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:39 AM (wuv1c)

139 Some of you have now latched onto Perry, thinking it will somehow be different because he's so amazing or something. It's not going to be pretty and I genuinely hope he skates through it with minimal damage, especially because Bambi is so weak right now. But you were warned.

Two minor (so minor I hesitate to mention them) differences.

1) Unlike too many of the Palinistas, we're not decrying this as OUTRAGE! but, rather, laughing at it and pointing out how stupid they must think the rest of us are.

2) So far, Rick Perry is skating through relatively unscathed.  Virtually every time a piece like this (well, not like this, because it's so transparently a hit-piece, but you know what I mean) came out against Palin, her popularity dropped further.  The exact opposite (for the moment, at least) appears to be happening to Rick "Hey, I'm the current front runner, and it's making the establishment foam at the mouth" Perry.

Now, might they manage to damage him anyway?  Yeah, it could happen.  But it's a lot less likely with Rick Perry (who has a huge record of accomplishment on which to run) than it was with Sarah "Who?" Palin 4 years ago.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:39 AM (8y9MW)

140 "Hey Perryheads, you don't really think you're going to avoid having your candidate Palinized, do you?"

Oh, I completely believe Perry will escape much of the effects.

Sure, the left will try as hard as they can, but I think Perry will manage to overcome it.  Not by magic, but simply because he's got that long and great record that points to Jobs Jobs Jobs.  It's a coherent and simple reply to attacks that makes the attacker look petty and dishonest.

Too many voters will come to see Perry as serious and the attacks as an attempt to change the topic.  That's how he'll avoid being Palinized.

Posted by: Dustin at August 29, 2011 07:39 AM (fF625)

141 Don't blame me, I'm voting for Sarah!

Posted by: Homer at August 29, 2011 07:39 AM (2P5tX)

142 DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review, taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Anyways, I would agree Perry is not a dimwit, as his piloting experience and political history would reveal (just as bush was no idiot).

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 07:40 AM (NadeK)

143 Obama is the Barney Fife President

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 07:40 AM (OhYCU)

Posted by: Chuckit at August 29, 2011 07:40 AM (AV436)

145 The single thing that will realign the Tea Party is when Palin endorses Perry.

Bank on it.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 07:41 AM (Qxe/p)

146 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you? Adolph Hitler comes to mind

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:41 AM (i6RpT)

147

"BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence."

 

He's black. You're not. 

Posted by: Louis Farrahkhan at August 29, 2011 07:41 AM (T1boi)

148

>>>DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.
Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review, taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

1. You're first point is idiotic. There is no such thing as an unbiased person. Every person has biases.

2. Bush graduated from Ivy league schools too, but I seem to recall that meant nothing between 2001-2009.

3. He was a politically appointed adjunct professor at Chicago. Getting a good government or university job in Chicago has little to do with merit.

4. It's odd that he was editor of Harvard Law Review and managed to write nothing of consequence.

 

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:42 AM (wuv1c)

149 Sorry, but Perry strikes me as a stuttering governor over his head when he leaves the realm of his state  (SGOHWLRS).

Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 29, 2011 07:42 AM (kfz40)

150 This is going to be a long 14 months. We haven't seen anything yet. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist and Perry supporter at August 29, 2011 11:41 AM (qjUnn) And with the most "Transparent" admin in history in charge, you AIN"T gonna see all that much!

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:42 AM (i6RpT)

151

>>>His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Really? How do you figure that?

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:42 AM (wuv1c)

152 DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

Unintentional comedy.  Gotta love it!

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at August 29, 2011 07:43 AM (GBXon)

153 "His speaking ability has moved billions across the world," Damn autocorrect. "Billions" was supposed to be "bowels," obviously.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:43 AM (AZGON)

154 It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

I doubt that.

Posted by: Descartes at August 29, 2011 07:43 AM (0q2P7)

155
Even I noticed and commented last week about how poorly Gov Perry responded to the China question.

All he had to say was the first thing he was going to do is stop borrowing from China because it makes us weaker and China stronger.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 07:43 AM (sqkOB)

156 Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 29, 2011 11:38 AM (o2lIv)

Somebody mentioned that, just before she took on Rick Perry in the Primary, some polls showed Kay Bailey as "the most popular politician in Texas."

Now, personally, I believe that was true in the Halcyon days of the Bush Presidency- Rick Perry (all of Austin, really) was just kind of there, making sure things worked, and Kay Bailey was "bringing home the bacon."

Then we realized what that bacon was costing, and said, "How about you just let us slaughter our own hogs?"  She didn't get the message, and crashed and burned in the Primary.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:43 AM (8y9MW)

157 I hear Rick Perry is establishing a Texlamic Caliphate in Austin. Thank God for Leathertits' Juggite minions coming here to put us some fuckin' knowledge.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 29, 2011 07:44 AM (p/mfs)

158 Seriously.  Are we traitors to Palin, who was qualified three years ago to be VP but not to be POTUS, for not backing her for an office she is not running for today?  Is your recommendation that we should back her, despite her shortcomings, out of principle? 

What's your plan?

My point is exactly what I said... those of you who sat back during the Palin takedown and then jumped on the bandwagon with the liberal horde because it was easier when the tide starting flowing that way, ought to get ready to watch it happen to your guy and then take it like big boys.

Meanwhile, my plan is the same as always. I'm going to work and vote for the candidate I want in the primary, then I'm going to work and vote for whoever is up against scoamf.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 07:44 AM (2MjOo)

159 Only three candidates Republican candidates have extensive, proven leadership and experience (if that is important).

Gingrich
Perry
Romney

Gingrich quit immediately following election when he could have just resigned as Speaker.  - LOSER

Likely Republican primary voters seem to have made the same analysis. The republic may survive, yet.

Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 07:44 AM (eEfYn)

160  His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (NadeK)

Mind if I take a whack at that?

Al Gore.

Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 07:44 AM (uVnnt)

161

Does Rick Perry have any rambling speeches available for download at $9.99 a pop on iTunes?

http://tinyurl.com/3t73qs3

Huh?

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (wIVOB)

162

>>Sorry, but Perry strikes me as a stuttering governor over his head when he leaves the realm of his state

And Mitt Romney's policies are indiscernible from Barack Obamas.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (wuv1c)

164 It's very amusing seeing the left freak about evolution, as though Perry said something wrong about it.  I believe he noted the textbook covered both.

Why would liberals want to censor common ideas from education?  Right or wrong, kids should understand all the major ideas in play today.  I should understand behaviorism and Newtonian physics even if they are not accurate.

I think they are falling into a trap... not one Perry set, but one of their own making.  They will act hysterical no matter what Perry says, to insist he is weird and crazy, but in this case, they only show that it's they who are crazy and unreasonable.

Does anyone really think it matters that the President agree with the left on their various theories?  Global warming?  Seriously?  No, the voters just want a president who can do their job.  If Perry believes in zombies and aliens, he still managed to do his job, while Obama completely failed at his.

And every time they go this route they are building up to the moment where Perry pulls a Clinton playbook move and 'defends' himself by noting his opponent's religious views (CIA is murdering black people with AIDs and 9/11 was justice, etc etc).

Posted by: Dustin at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (fF625)

165 Meanwhile, my plan is the same as always. I'm going to work and vote for the candidate I want in the primary, then I'm going to work and vote for whoever is up against scoamf.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 11:44 AM (2MjOo)

--

Who's your candidate?

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (5H6zj)

166 Sorry, but Perry strikes me as a stuttering governor over his head when he leaves the realm of his state

No, you're not.  And cite some evidence, please.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (8y9MW)

167 Obama strikes me as intelligent, but lazy.  He strikes me as the type who floats through school without doing any real work.. constantly getting breaks along the way.

He can speak well and has a good grasp of the English language and a superficial grasp of many subjects when he speaks about them.

But he lacks substance.  He only has textbook knowledge of anything he knows.. or what an advisor tells him.  It seems to me like he has no real grasp of the underlying concepts.  He is the textbook "empty suit".

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2011 07:45 AM (f9c2L)

168 BTW- I'd love for any of our liberal friends who read the blog to offer some evidence of Obama's intelligence. I hear so much about it, I'm sure you guys will be able to rattle off three to five bits of evidence without breaking a swea

Exactly.

I've been asking this for years.

Show us. In *any* one area. Prove it.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (pLTLS)

169 but Perry strikes me as a stuttering governor over his head when he leaves the realm of his state (SGOHWLRS). Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 29, 2011 11:42 AM (kfz40) Well 52% of the American Populace don't see that as any bar to the Presidency?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (i6RpT)

170

DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

You mistake actually getting in to those schools as a serious intellectual achievement unto itself.  They are not the same.  But we fully understand why you keep pitching that line.

Moreover, once you get into one, then the whole process becomes a self-licking ice cream cone. 

"Oh?  You went to Columbia?  Well, that you must be smart enough of Harvard."

Obama has produced not a single product which indicates his supposed genius.  Not one.  Ever.

Getting into the school is not the same as demonstrating one is smart.

See Kennedy, Edward.

Or any one of a thousand trust fund babies.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (sbV1u)

171 147 ...Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

He's a better speaker than Former British PM Tony Blair? I think not.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (o2lIv)

172

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (NadeK)

Hitler moved millions too by giving pretty speeches. So what's your point, donkeydick?

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (H/MnC)

173 Well I guess we better get used to  the "Obama is brilliant and Perry is an idiot." meme.If Perry were to get the nomination I'm sure he will be caught up in all kind of "gotcha" moments. About Barrys grades. Expect them to be rolled out a couple weeks before the election. They of course will be perfect, at least as perfect as they can manufacture.

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (OVCfn)

174 "Leathertits' Juggite" That sounds like the trade name of a Kevlar substitute.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (AZGON)

175 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world

Retching is a movement, yes?  So I guess I can agree.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 07:46 AM (GTbGH)

176

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (NadeK)

Certainly you can direct us to Obama's college transcripts and the vast body of scholarly work Obama has penned...

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (9hSKh)

177 Now, might they manage to damage him anyway?  Yeah, it could happen.  But it's a lot less likely with Rick Perry (who has a huge record of accomplishment on which to run) than it was with Sarah "Who?" Palin 4 years ago.

I hope you're right. But remember they're not going to get started on anyone properly until they're the nominee. Low info voters who can be swayed by the garbage ain't even close to paying attention yet.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (2MjOo)

178 Obama has produced not a single product which indicates his supposed genius.  Not one.  Ever.
-----
^This. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (5H6zj)

179 Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age.

You spelled "reader" wrong.

Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (0nqdj)

180

why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

Don't blem me, I'm not the Racist!

Posted by: Proud2BDonkeyPunched at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (2P5tX)

181

>>>My point is exactly what I said... those of you who sat back during the Palin takedown and then jumped on the bandwagon with the liberal horde because it was easier when the tide starting flowing that way, ought to get ready to watch it happen to your guy and then take it like big boys.

Yeah, all that happened because we "sat back". We totally then jumped on the liberal band wagon to "take her down".

I totally remember that. Good times, good times.

BTW, is there still room in your bunker?

 

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (wuv1c)

182

And Mitt Romney's policies are indiscernible from Barack Obamas.

And which policies, arguendo, other than Romneycare, are those?

Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 29, 2011 07:47 AM (kfz40)

183 taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

Cornell Wilde taught at both Harvard and Yale between recording rap albums and he is the only person other than Ralph Wiggum to use the word "unpossible."   Yeah, they only hire the best at those elite schools.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:48 AM (Hx5uv)

184 I do have to say that though I believe Perry to be smarter than the average person my beef against him was that I believe he made bad decisions based on not thinking through them sufficiently.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 07:48 AM (s0uvO)

185 Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 11:12 AM (wuv1c) ---------------------------------------------- Great point. I get Tea Party literature in the mail and it goes right in the garbage with other political mailings.

Posted by: Spiker at August 29, 2011 07:48 AM (4t9J5)

186 Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age.

I'm sorry, but virtually every British MP is a better speaker than Obama.   We just have extremely low standards here in America.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 07:48 AM (wuv1c)

187 Toby928 --

OBVIOUSLY Photoshopped.
None of the dials point in the direction you're headed.

Posted by: Pilot Major Barky at August 29, 2011 07:48 AM (Qxe/p)

188 4. It's odd that he was editor of Harvard Law Review and managed to write nothing of consequence. Posted by: Ben People involved in the selection of Obama as editor openly admitted that it was a PC choice rather than one based on merit.

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at August 29, 2011 07:49 AM (JNqU9)

189 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Name a single memorable quote, palin steele.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 07:49 AM (OK/vv)

190

A C-130 is huge. It's the Texas of airplanes.

A C-5 is the Texas of airplanes.  A C-130 is the Ohio of aiplanes

Posted by: Sean Bannion

 

Strangely enough, many C-5s are based at Dover AFB in Delaware, which is the..well, Delaware of states (small).

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 29, 2011 07:49 AM (326rv)

191 re 170:

The teleprompter has been programmed to push and dial all the correct buttons as needed on all models after the C-130B. A monkey (or dog or cat) could pilot the plane.


Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 07:49 AM (eEfYn)

192 Who's your candidate?

If Palin gets in, I will be voting for her in the primary. I don't have a solid second yet. It was freakin' Romney in 2008 and suffice it to say, that ship has sailed.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 07:50 AM (2MjOo)

193

I doubt that.

I second that.

 

Posted by: Thomas at August 29, 2011 07:50 AM (2P5tX)

194 Certainly you can direct us to Obama's college transcripts and the vast body of scholarly work Obama has penned...

Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

This is the birther crap all over again...haven't you guys had enough egg on your face?

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 07:50 AM (NadeK)

195 Poor Romney supporters. It's as if everyone else but them gets how this will go down.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 07:50 AM (pLTLS)

196

"Voters would do well to ask: Who’s this “we” that will really be running the country during a Perry presidency?"

Hey frum, when obama is sitting around with his thumb up his ass, who do you think is "running the country"?

Well, we had at least one Maoist "running the country".

And didn't Obama try to get that Communist idiot Van Jones a nice cushy job "running the country"?

the thing that has me most concerned about dimbulb Barry is that he has given up all power to these czar assholes and they are feeding us into gigantic chipper shredders that will eat at us for many years...and that's the way people like Frum want it.


Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at August 29, 2011 07:50 AM (tcSZb)

197 Name a single memorable quote

"All wee weed up"

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (Hx5uv)

198 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.


*cough*

Posted by: affirmative action at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (GTbGH)

199 Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 11:48 AM (s0uvO)

Find me anyone in the world, past paragons of presidency included, who haven't done that.  If that's a disqualifier, then it's time to give up.

The fact is he completely screwed up with the HPV vaccine (I don't think anyone will try to argue otherwise), but then wised up, said "My bad," and took his licks like a man.  I don't agree that TTC was a bad call.  It was defeated politically for political reasons.  There isn't actually (that I can see) any argument that suggest the policy itself was bad (other than it got defeated), or not conservative enough.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (8y9MW)

200 Name a single memorable quote

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (NadeK)

201

A monkey (or dog or cat) could pilot the plane.

So you are saying your average Democrat voter (even the dead ones) could pilot a C-130?

Ok then.

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (wIVOB)

202 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

Oh hi!

So you're privy to these credentials then?

Fantastic! I've been looking for those. Please link them.

Thanks in advance donkydunce!

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (pLTLS)

203
I don't know if pud-donkey is legit or someone just funnin with us.

 Pointing out Obama's 'speaking ability' is interesting, and it's a common belief among his supporters.

But the interesting part is it shows that Obama is a Seminar President, an Informercial President.

Obama is Tony Robbins -- a salesman who blows smoke up your ass while picking your pocket.



Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (sqkOB)

204 My point is exactly what I said... those of you who sat back during the Palin takedown and then jumped on the bandwagon with the liberal horde because it was easier when the tide starting flowing that way, ought to get ready to watch it happen to your guy and then take it like big boys.
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 11:44 AM (2MjOo)

I happen to recall lots of people here defending Palin from liberal attacks.  It's tremendously dishonest to claim otherwise.  What they didn't do was say they would vote for her in the primary.  And that's what pisses you off.

Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at August 29, 2011 07:51 AM (FkKjr)

205 I'm too lazy to look it up again, but at the time that Bambi's academic chops were being touted I did a search on the tenure requirements for law schools, some of which are ascertainable on the web.  I found that Presidebt Smartypants would not even make the grade at a mid-tier law school.  The reason being: he had no scholarly accomplishments. 

U Chicago inviting him to join their ranks as a tenure-track faculty member (which they did a couple of times, iirc) was purely an act of affirmative action and political pandering.  Anyone who has any inside knowledge of academe recognizes this.

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:52 AM (5H6zj)

206

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (NadeK)

 

Is this average joe again?

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 29, 2011 07:52 AM (6rX0K)

207 NASA announces that ISS will have to be abandoned this fall if the Russian Rockets keep crashing. Well at least NASA can still make announcements

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:52 AM (i6RpT)

208 "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

That actually moved you to something other than laughter, or cringing at its awful construction?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (OK/vv)

209

Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

You do realize that both Obama's, besides profiting from affirmative action, got in on account of legacy admission. Do you know what that is, donkeydick?

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (H/MnC)

210 Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:50 AM (NadeK)

Then you haven't checked in 20 years, at least.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (8y9MW)

211

A monkey (or dog or cat) could pilot the plane.

So you are saying your average Democrat voter (even the dead ones) could pilot a C-130?

Ok then.

NO. I specifically excluded donkeys from my statement. They could crash one easily enough. Of course, that would be the fault of the pilot of the previous flight.


Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (eEfYn)

212 I'm sorry, but virtually every British MP is a better speaker than Obama.   We just have extremely low standards here in America.


Bwaahahahahaha....thats why ppl around the world would die to listen to british PMs speak right?? riiight?

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (NadeK)

213 Yeah, all that happened because we "sat back". We totally then jumped on the liberal band wagon to "take her down".

Hey, I didn't fucking say that. I was talking specifically to people out there who are easily lead and swayed, not everyone who has ever had a bad thing to say about Palin or who doesn't support her. They know who they are. And they're going to get a big fat surprise when it happens to their guy or gal (be it Perry or anyone else dangerous to the lefty mob machine).

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (2MjOo)

214 Do you know what that is, donkeydick? Posted by: Ma Bell at August 29, 2011 11:53 AM (H/MnC) Ever actually seen a donkey's Dick?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:53 AM (i6RpT)

215 >> Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you? He reads off a TelePrompTer. At all times. This means he is not a good Orator, he is a good reader with good speech writers. His words would not be nearly so moving if the media didn't have his balls so firmly lodged in their mouths at all times. And this is why most people don't recognize what awesome speeches G.W. gave during his presidency. Too busy worshipping the god king. Outside of campaign sloganeering Obama sucks. He will never deliver a line on par with "the soft bigotry of lowered expectations" .

Posted by: E.M. August at August 29, 2011 07:54 AM (zeBNm)

216 "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

Yep.  That's pretty much it from the Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.  That and "Eat our peas".

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 07:54 AM (GTbGH)

217 People involved in the selection of Obama as editor openly admitted that it was a PC choice rather than one based on merit.

Care to back up that lie?

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 07:54 AM (NadeK)

218 "And Mitt Romney's policies are indiscernible from Barack Obamas."

This statement is indiscernible from "I'm a fucking idiot".

Posted by: Lincolntf at August 29, 2011 07:54 AM (Qjh0I)

219 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

Or if you match the racial quota qualifications.

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 07:54 AM (wIVOB)

220 "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

----

O/T, but this reminds me of a phrase we used to say back in my wild misspent youth: "We are the people our parents warned us about."

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 07:55 AM (5H6zj)

221 Seems we have a couple of worms on this blog. I guess the word is out - we destroyed Weiner and now have targeted SCOAMF. Send in the brown shirts.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 07:55 AM (0M3AQ)

222

NO. I specifically excluded donkeys from my statement. They could crash one easily enough. Of course, that would be the fault of the pilot of the previous flight.

Awesome.


Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (wIVOB)

223 168, "Listeners also bought... The Best of Malcolm X"

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (OhYCU)

224 We are the ones we've been waiting for"

That actually moved you to something other than laughter, or cringing at its awful construction?

Posted by: Waterhouse

 

That was special. I keep wondering where were we  when we were waiting for ourselves? Were we crusing the subways or bars? Were we late and keeping ourselves waiting? Were we dissappointed when we saw ourselves? Why does my head hurt? Why is someone in a white coat approaching me carrying a syringe?

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (6rX0K)

225

Palin - floatplane pilot

McCain - aircraft carrier fighter-bomber pilot

Bush - supersonic interceptor pilot

Perry - multi-engine heavy transport pilot

Eisenhower - planned Normandy invasion

Obama - planned Martha's Vineyard evasion, golf-cart co-pilot

Posted by: sherlock at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (BaQuW)

226 It really doesn't matter what his College/ Law School transcripts look like, because we can evaluate him on all the Bills he sponsored in the Senate?

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (i6RpT)

227 Granny is a racist was the best speech on race in the history of the world.  I know because Chris Matthews said so.

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (Hx5uv)

228

Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

Yes, stellar academic credentials such as being a National Merit Scholar.

Ooops!  He wasn't one.

Hell, he wasn't even a semi-finalist.

Can we have your next illogical assertion please?  We'll try to pick up the pace in disposing of them, if you could just keep throwing them out there a little faster.

When the bane of liberals 2000-2008, yes, that dim bulb George W. Bush can bother to release his less than stellar grades, and yet the intellectual giant of our age one Barack Hussein Obama cannot, well, it's just a logical assumption to wonder why not.

Hell, even marginally qualified John Effin' Kerry released his underwhelming grades.

Yet, curiously, Obama has not.

I wonder why.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (sbV1u)

229 Do you realize that Perry is from Texas? What a racist moron!

Posted by: Democrat voters at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (jeLTI)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (jx2j9)

231 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

Thank you for not directly answering my question.  But allow me to retort - please provide these "tremendous academic credentials" that Obama possesses that allowed him to enter these "elite" academic institutions.

In other words, put up or shut up. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (9hSKh)

232 DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review, taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Anyways, I would agree Perry is not a dimwit, as his piloting experience and political history would reveal (just as bush was no idiot).

At last I checked, being able to read a teleprompter well does not make someone a "great speaker" take away his training wheels and a someone from a high school debate team could show him up.

As far as "teaching"; As far as I know he never did hold down a permanent position, and was simply their to guest lecture. Also as far as I know the yard stick by which you measure intelligence in Academia; since that is where you purport he existed, is through published work.

It would be like me an engineer, had I not in the 15 or so years of my career, never actually designed *anything*; Though I held positions where I *should* have designed something. I would be laughed at by a potential employer, if I told him I graduated from a good school, but refused to show him my grades, AND couldn't produce one major work over years of being in the industry. The presumption of intelligence and competence that is first garnered by a college degree has an expiration date. Because all schools can graduate marginally intelligent students, even with academic honors, given the right circumstances.

Posted by: Descartes at August 29, 2011 07:56 AM (0q2P7)

233 181 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world... ------------------------------------------------------ Why yes, he certainly is the McDonald's of speech making. Billions served..............appetite sated temporarily..........and a very unsettling feeling afterwards that you really should not have purchased the product.

Posted by: Spiker at August 29, 2011 07:57 AM (4t9J5)

234 Here's El JEFe's great tenure at Harvard Law Review:

[W]hen he was at the HLR you did get a very distinct sense that he was the kind of guy who much more interested in being the president of the Review, than he was in doing anything as president of the Review.
...
Barack Obama was nowhere to be seen. Occasionally he would drop in he would talk to people, and then he'd leave again as though his very arrival had been a benediction in and of itself, but not very much got done.

Read it and weep, donkeyshow.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 07:57 AM (OK/vv)

235

"We are the ones we've been waiting for"

Banality.

Next?!?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 07:57 AM (sbV1u)

236
Obama is not just the greatest speaker in modern times; he is the most powerful writer since Julius fuckin Caesar.

Rocco Landesman, the chairman for the National Endowment for the Arts (NEA) explained in 2009:

"This is the first president that actually writes his own books since Teddy Roosevelt and arguably the first to write them really well since Lincoln. If you accept the premise, and I do, that the United States is the most powerful country in the world, then Barack Obama is the most powerful writer since Julius Caesar. That has to be good for American artists."

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 07:58 AM (sqkOB)

237 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

He wasn't in elite academia.  At most, he was an adjunct but more likely just a lecturer.  They're basically just subcontracted work.

Posted by: Slublog at August 29, 2011 07:58 AM (0nqdj)

238

Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

So you are acknowledging that George W. Bush was smarter than average because he went an Ivy League school.

 

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 07:58 AM (wIVOB)

239 Evidently making a flight plan and following it is for idiots, whereas jumping into a plane with no idea how you're going to get where you want to go is for smart people. Like Obama.

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2011 07:59 AM (/ijYB)

240

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:50 AM (NadeK)

Would you say Barack Obama is like Captain America?

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 07:59 AM (GULKT)

241 That was special. I keep wondering where were we  when we were waiting for ourselves? Were we crusing the subways or bars? Were we late and keeping ourselves waiting? Were we dissappointed when we saw ourselves? Why does my head hurt? Why is someone in a white coat approaching me carrying a syringe?

And why did we keep us waiting?  Did we come across a bottle of ValueRite with our name on it?  Forget where we put our car keys?  Set the alarm for PM instead of AM?  What?

Posted by: WalrusRex at August 29, 2011 08:00 AM (Hx5uv)

242

Would you say Barack Obama is like Captain America?

I like Kaptain Kenya myself.

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 08:00 AM (wIVOB)

243

Posted by: Socratease at August 29, 2011 11:59 AM (/ijYB)

^5

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:00 AM (sbV1u)

244 He wasn't in elite academia.  At most, he was an adjunct but more likely just a lecturer.  They're basically just subcontracted work.

Which would explain the dearth of academic work Obama has scribbed, correct?  Along with his lackadaisical attitude toward things?

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 08:00 AM (9hSKh)

245 Read it and weep, donkeyshow.

That said absolutely nothing regarding his law review appointment as being AA. But nice try...not!

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 08:00 AM (NadeK)

246
Obama won a Nobel Prize for Awesomeness.

Enough said.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (sqkOB)

247 AllenG his recent decisions to sign two different pledges is one of not thinking things through.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (s0uvO)

248 Evidently making a flight plan and following it is for idiots, whereas jumping into a plane with no idea how you're going to get where you want to go is for smart people.

Like Obama.

Posted by: Socratease

 

Actually, the Obamas are sooper geniuses, because they took TWO planes. When's the last time you did that wingnuts!?!

Posted by: Blue Hen has gone blue, and feels the need to wash at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (6rX0K)

249 He clearly has them scared shitless

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (LyOUH)

250 Would you say Barack Obama is like Captain America? --------------- Mor like Crapped on America.

Posted by: 3,876,883 Hobbits at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (jeLTI)

251

>>>>Bwaahahahahaha....thats why ppl around the world would die to listen to british PMs speak right?? riiight?

who has died to listen to Obama speak? That doesn't even make any sense?

People don't even show up at his campaign events anymore.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (wuv1c)

252 So you are acknowledging that George W. Bush was smarter than average because he went an Ivy League school.

Of course. George W. Bush is much smarter than average. Anyone who is able to win Presidency is very phuckin smart. I don't agree with Bush, but I don't question his intelligence.

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 08:01 AM (NadeK)

253 >>Poor Romney supporters. It's as if everyone else but them gets how this will go down. Oh I think I have a pretty good idea how this will go down. I told ace the other day that Perry was enjoying being the shiny new toy and hadn't really had the press go after him yet. Not only is it happening, it's happening on both sides of the aisle. The liberals are being the liberals the Tea Party and associated bloggers are being bat shit nuts. None if it is helpful to Perry. Perry is going to have the msm crawling in and out of every one of his orifices over the next few months and every decision he has made will get the microscope. Every time he opens his mouth it will be front page news. I keep saying this but what worked for Perry in Texas is not necessarily going to be seen as a big win everywhere else. That Gallup poll that he did so well in, if you look at the regionalization he absolutely crushed Romney in the south and the west but he tied in the midwest and lost to Romney in the east. Pretty easy to see the lines of attack on Perry, he's dumb, he's a cowboy, he's got crazy religious beliefs, etc.. The dumb Islam thing is a sign how crazy is going to get. And he's only been a candidate for 2 weeks in the dead of summer. Better buckle up, it's going to get even bumpier.

Posted by: Matt Damon at August 29, 2011 08:02 AM (TMB3S)

254 Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 12:01 PM (s0uvO)

Okay, I know about the tax pledge.  What's the other one, and why do you think they are, specifically, bad decisions?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:02 AM (8y9MW)

255 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia.

This is the birther crap all over again...haven't you guys had enough egg on your face?

Last I checked Columbia and Harvard were very flexible about Academic requirements in some cases. Where it is probably safe to say he wasn't terrible, it isn't safe to say he was above average.

I really think that thanks to the Gentleman's B almost all of Obama's grades are fine. But, I would really like to see the curriculum at both schools. And there are a few key grades I'd like to see.

Posted by: Descartes at August 29, 2011 08:02 AM (0q2P7)

256

Obama won a Nobel Prize for Awesomeness.

Enough said

Reminds me of:

"First Annual Montgomery Burns Award for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence"

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 08:02 AM (wIVOB)

257 This punching down is discouraging work.  In the end, the idiot trolls remain idiots.  I think that donkeykong has reached the PS level and continued digging.  A simple STFU, Dunce in reply will probably suffice in the future.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 08:02 AM (GTbGH)

258 He can speak well and has a good grasp of the English language

Only when he's reading from the 'prompter.


Posted by: Andy at August 29, 2011 08:03 AM (5Rurq)

259 Read it and weep, donkeyshow.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 11:57 AM (OK/vv)

For some strange reason, this strikes me as oddly familiar.  Can't put my finger on it.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 08:03 AM (jx2j9)

260 "Anyone who is able to win Presidency is very phuckin smart." And post turtles can climb like ninjas.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 29, 2011 08:03 AM (cbyrC)

261 DrewM., why do you harp on Obama's intelligence? It is unquestionable to most rational, unbiased folks.

Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review, taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Mr, donkeydunce, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 08:03 AM (pLTLS)

262 I happen to recall lots of people here defending Palin from liberal attacks.  It's tremendously dishonest to claim otherwise.  What they didn't do was say they would vote for her in the primary.  And that's what pisses you off.

Posted by: L. Ron Hubbard at August 29, 2011 11:51 AM (FkKjr)

Don't be stupid, I know there's lot of good folks in here. I want to beat scoamf and if she can't get enough people in the primary, then she wouldn't in the general. Meanwhile, you haven't the foggiest clue what pisses me off, but "people not voting for Sarah Palin in the Republican primary" doesn't even crack the top million.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 08:04 AM (2MjOo)

263

That said absolutely nothing regarding his law review appointment as being AA. But nice try...not!

At the time, they had changed the standards at HLR at the time to make it more, ahem, "accessible" to minorities.

So, that didn't happen either?

Not only can you bend truth, you can bend the time-space continuum!

Wow, if I remove my capacity for critical thought and become a "progressive" will I be able to do that too?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:04 AM (sbV1u)

264 That said absolutely nothing regarding his law review appointment as being AA.

No, it said everything about just what kind of a lazy, vain, incompetent fucktard you voted for.

Got another hilarious moving banality of Obama's to share with us as an example of his extraordinary speechifying ability, which is somehow correlated with insanely-high intelligence, because you say so, Dum-Dum?

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 08:04 AM (OK/vv)

265 Breaking:

Obama blames drug dealers who supplied him with bad cocaine for his dismal performance as president.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 08:04 AM (jx2j9)

266

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 12:01 PM (NadeK)

Are the Jew Chinese Indian doctors out to steal your tonsils?

When did you last fellate a woman?

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 08:05 AM (GULKT)

267

Yes, it's Jonathan Martin, one of the infinite monkeys at Politico,who get 2/3 stories wrong, because that is what the Journolistrequires.  We saw the way they painted Texas in the W era, a polluted wasteland out of  DUNE'S Gledi Prime. His Yale and Harvard Business credentials, cut no slack for him, except when they tried to ding him for insider trading at Harken

 

 

Posted by: captain smith at August 29, 2011 08:05 AM (1kwr2)

268 I'll take an airforce pilot over a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure who can't even work a fucking umbrella.

Posted by: Berserker at August 29, 2011 08:05 AM (FMbng)

269

>>>Hey, I didn't fucking say that. I was talking specifically to people out there who are easily lead and swayed, not everyone who has ever had a bad thing to say about Palin or who doesn't support her. They know who they are. And they're going to get a big fat surprise when it happens to their guy or gal (be it Perry or anyone else dangerous to the lefty mob machine).

Fair enough. I'm just on edge as of late for Dan Riehl types that are declaring everyone who doesn't support a Palin candidacy to be something less than conservative.

I'm sure you're right that the MSM will try to destroy Perry, but I don't think they'll be successful. He's a fairly savvy politician who has successfully run one of the largest states in the union. He's been dealing with media scrutiny for a long time.

Palin didn't have that luxury being from a backwater state the MSM doesn't care about and most Americans don't know much about. So when she was thrown into the limelight, she didn't have the neccessary experience to draw from.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (wuv1c)

270 Quit reponding to Mr. Donkey.  Instead, do something to support your candidate.  It's pretty clear at this point that Obama is going to be a one-termer.  But what's not clear is how resounding his defeat will be.  It needs to be a huge LANDSLIDE, all-but-three-states defeat, with Congress flipping, so the Democrats are killed off for eight or more years.  The whole Dem/Euro outlook needs to be send into hibernation.

Do something to help your candidate.  Because that ultimately helps kill off the Dems, and their toxic socialism.  Mr. Donkey:  not worth the time.

Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (kfz40)

271 You know you are a stuttering dumbass, when Obama is your role model.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (OhYCU)

272
So you are acknowledging that George W. Bush was smarter than average because he went an Ivy League school.

... you're forgetting the standard liberal reply to this: HIS DADDY GOT HIM IN!!1!! I CAN'T PROVE IT BUT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!1!!

Posted by: weew at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (7RbIF)

273
Obama 2012
Because He Works Very Hard...Sometimes

.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (sqkOB)

274

A C-130 is huge. It's the Texas of airplanes.

A C-5 is the Texas of airplanes.  A C-130 is the Ohio of aiplanes

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 11:19 AM (sbV1u)

Astute and succinct; I didn't think you Air Force boys could think this good--not without someone holding up pictures and feeding you dialog.

The UH-1H is the Chuck Norris of hello-copters:  Aging, but Bad Ass

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 29, 2011 08:06 AM (UqKQV)

275 "Who is this We", not thee Mr Frim, not thee

Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2011 08:07 AM (UIE9v)

276 268 He can speak well and has a good grasp of the English language

Only when he's reading from the 'prompter.


Posted by: Andy at August 29, 2011 12:03 PM (5Rurq)

Are you sure of that?

Posted by: corpseman at August 29, 2011 08:07 AM (GULKT)

277 Rush just said "Brattleboro is underwater"

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:07 AM (OhYCU)

278
yeah, VT got wacked


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:08 AM (sqkOB)

279
lots of VW buses and Lesbarus under water

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:08 AM (sqkOB)

280 A lot of this comes down to what a person means by intelligence. Everyone just assumes Obama is a bright guy but there's precious little proof of it.
. . .

This is the same garbage the press pulled on Reagan back in the day. He was the big talking, dangerous fool while Jimmy Carter was the thoughtful , well meaning intellectual. Which was the more successful President?

Politics is a results oriented business not a college faculty debating club.

Your pilot comparison shows that a good leader has to be able to assimilate data from a huge range of sources and cobble that into consistent good judgements.

Reagan did that.  George Washington did that.


Posted by: rdbrewer at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (3PWwL)

281

So you are acknowledging that George W. Bush was smarter than average because he went an Ivy League school.

... you're forgetting the standard liberal reply to this: HIS DADDY GOT HIM IN!!1!! I CAN'T PROVE IT BUT YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE!1!!

"After the last eight years, it's great to have a president who knows what a library is."

Posted by: Paul McCartney - Super Genius at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (wIVOB)

282 I don't agree with Bush, but I don't question his intelligence.

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 12:01 PM (NadeK)

Well, good for you.  Have a cookie. 

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (UqKQV)

283 Captain Downgrade makes sense. Captain Trips is probably most accurate.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (niZvt)

284

Anyone who is able to win Presidency is very phuckin smart.

Sorta reminds me how Obama listed running a presidential campaign as being a qualification to be President.

Seriously, dude forget his academic career.  You might want to re-examine some of your "going in" assumptions about Obama's intelligence based on his track record alone.  I mean, the record is there.  His inability to change course when his approach isn't working marks his mind as inflexible - and therefore clearly second-rate.

Bill Clinton he's not.

If you want to keep being a suck-up that's fine.  But this probably isn't the place to do it.

Oh, and the ironic hipster use of "ph" in place of "f" is soooo 2004.  You might want to update your game a bit.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (sbV1u)

285 Palin didn't have that luxury being from a backwater state the MSM doesn't care about and most Americans don't know much about. So when she was thrown into the limelight, she didn't have the neccessary experience to draw from.

In addition, because she was not running for POTUS, she had to follow McCain's "my friends" lead on countering the attacks.

Perry is running his campaign.  For good or ill the strategies he employs to counter the attacks will be his own.  He'll be more committed to them and more comfortable with them. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:09 AM (5H6zj)

286 Remember that Obama was a university professor who taught Constitutional Law.

Posted by: Kool-Aid Guy at August 29, 2011 08:10 AM (lH6z9)

287
This crap from Politico is just a prelude of what's to come from TIME:

Is Rick Perry Bad For America?

They ask this question about all popular Republicans.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:10 AM (sqkOB)

288 177...

Or any one of a thousand trust fund babies.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 11:46 AM (sbV1u)

Otherwise known as trustafarians.

Posted by: Piñon Farmer at August 29, 2011 08:10 AM (IzuWw)

289

"Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review,"

 

Yet his grades were so terrible they were sealed. Interesting.

It's almost like he was given admission and a position based on some other criteria.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 29, 2011 08:11 AM (kaOJx)

290 Captain Kangaroo...

Guest lecturer of law par excellence

Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 08:11 AM (eEfYn)

291 PH instead of F is a Harvard thing.

Posted by: 3,876,884 Hobbits at August 29, 2011 08:11 AM (jeLTI)

292 Heh. Rush just said Brattleboro, VT is flooded. Hey Cloggenstein, has your messiah made the waters recede yet?

Posted by: Spiker at August 29, 2011 08:11 AM (4t9J5)

293 OBAMA 2012: YOU'RE WELCOME!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:11 AM (niZvt)

294 This crap from Politico is just a prelude of what's to come from TIME:

Is Rick Perry Bad For America?

If by "Bad" you mean "Will drag America, kicking and screaming, out of the Recession" or by "America" you mean "Liberals," the answer is yes.  If you don't mean either of those things, the answer is "no."

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.  How much worse does that make everyone who is still sticking up for him?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:12 AM (8y9MW)

295 Obama 2012
Because He Works Very Hard...Sometimes
When he's not golfing.
Or on vacation.
Or trying to eat waffles.
Or at campaign events.
Or on date night.
Or ...

Posted by: Descartes at August 29, 2011 08:12 AM (0q2P7)

296 Obama was a part-time 'lecturer' who taught Nothing as a favor to his puppet-masters and the God of Affirmative Action ( who must be appeased )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 29, 2011 08:12 AM (UqKQV)

297 Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM (NadeK)

First, thanks for trying. What you wrote was argument by assertion (and credentials) but it was and honest attempt.
 
Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review, taught Con law at Chicago (do you realize how smart one needs to be to teach law at an elite school?)

Meghan McCain graduated from Columbia. Enough said about that.

Harvard Law is prestigious but lots of people graduate from there. Are they all towering intellects? I knew a guy with a Harvard School of Business MBA...was an absolute fool.

You need to be quite accomplished to be a professor of law at a place like the University of Chicago but he was an adjunct lecturer. Very different things. The real measure of intellectual brain power at that level is published scholarship. Where's Obama's impressive list of law review articles?

Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Anyways, I would agree Perry is not a dimwit, as his piloting experience and political history would reveal (just as bush was no idiot).

Fair enough of you but it's not what the majority of liberals say, is it?

Posted by: DrewM. at August 29, 2011 08:12 AM (dXPup)

298 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

;">...Our gathering today is being broadcast throughout Western Europe and North America. I understand that it is being seen and heard as well in the East. To those listening throughout Eastern Europe, a special word: Although I cannot be with you, I address my remarks to you just as surely as to those standing here before me. For I join you, as I join your fellow countrymen in the West, in this firm, this unalterable belief: Es gibt nur ein Berlin. [There is only one Berlin.]

;">Behind me stands a wall that encircles the free sectors of this city, part of a vast system of barriers that divides the entire continent of Europe. From the Baltic, south, those barriers cut across Germany in a gash of barbed wire, concrete, dog runs, and guard towers. Farther south, there may be no visible, no obvious wall. But there remain armed guards and checkpoints all the same--still a restriction on the right to travel, still an instrument to impose upon ordinary men and women the will of a totalitarian state. Yet it is here in Berlin where the wall emerges most clearly; here, cutting across your city, where the news photo and the television screen have imprinted this brutal division of a continent upon the mind of the world. Standing before the Brandenburg Gate, every man is a German, separated from his fellow men. Every man is a Berliner, forced to look upon a scar.

;">President von Weizsacker has said, "The German question is open as long as the Brandenburg Gate is closed." Today I say: As long as the gate is closed, as long as this scar of a wall is permitted to stand, it is not the German question alone that remains open, but the question of freedom for all mankind. Yet I do not come here to lament. For I find in Berlin a message of hope, even in the shadow of this wall, a message of triumph...

...General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!



Posted by: Deety at August 29, 2011 08:12 AM (tydO9)

299 I feel like this post should be accompanied by the Saturday Night Live Reagan "Mastermind" skit.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2011 08:13 AM (wuv1c)

300 Meghan McCain graduated from Columbia.

Best one-line rebuttal I've seen to date.

Posted by: Pilot Major Barky at August 29, 2011 08:13 AM (Qxe/p)

301 SOCK OFF!

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 08:14 AM (Qxe/p)

302 I would pay big money for the notes of anyone in his ConLaw class

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:14 AM (OhYCU)

303 I think Waterhouse might be right and proudonkey is Palin Steele.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 08:14 AM (GULKT)

304 Perry is running his campaign.  For good or ill the strategies he employs to counter the attacks will be his own.  He'll be more committed to them and more comfortable with them. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 12:09 PM (5H6zj)


I think he's already demonstrated an excellent ability to deflect loaded Left-biased questions.  Be they from Mom's egging on their offspring to ask them, or reporters.  I'm afraid that is something Palin was never able to do very well, and virtually hiding out from the main network anchors and reporters on FNC and local stations does not say much about her confidence that she will ever be able to.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:14 AM (niZvt)

305 Hurricane Obama

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:14 AM (OhYCU)

306 Barry basically went from low level Chicago ward heeler to the Presidency.  The result was predictable.

Posted by: The Peter Principle at August 29, 2011 08:15 AM (GTbGH)

307 I would pay big money for the notes of anyone in his ConLaw class

Too late.  I think HE paid big money for the notes.
... apparently he got what he paid for, too ...

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 08:15 AM (Qxe/p)

308 Hoen-door-az.

Posted by: President Speak-&-Spell at August 29, 2011 08:15 AM (OK/vv)

309 AllenG I was referring to the anti-abortion pledge and gay marriage pledge. Each sounds harmless at least to the base but the details of the pledges puts Perry in a position where he may have to break them. For instance it is my understanding that the abortion pledge restricts who he would appoint to government positions.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:16 AM (s0uvO)

310 Rush equates Obama to Irene.  Many heads explode; others nod in affirmation


Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 29, 2011 08:16 AM (UqKQV)

311 18 Just checked my e-mails, and a member of our tea party is fretting that OMG Rick Perry loves muslims!!111!!!! Crap that Pamela Geller is spreading... Little Green Jugs - Obama IS A MUSLIM!!!

Posted by: izoneguy at August 29, 2011 08:17 AM (i6Neb)

312 Deja fucking vu. Military pilots dumb. Dopesmoking, cocaine snorting, douchebags, smart.

Posted by: kansas at August 29, 2011 08:17 AM (mka2b)

313 think he's already demonstrated an excellent ability to deflect loaded Left-biased questions.

I, too.  Especially his tendency to answer every question with "Jobs, Jobs, Jobs."

I half expect him to have this exchange with his wife (or personal chef- he's not a poor man, after all) every morning.

"What do you want for breakfast?"
"Texas has created 40% of the net jobs in America over the last two years."
"Yes, that's nice.  But your choices are an omelet or pancakes."

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:17 AM (8y9MW)

314 DrewM,

Ok, Meghan went to ivy. But Meghan's a celebrity with a senator for a dad. Obama isn't. Also, Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing.

Yes, many liberals think Perry, Palin are dumb, as they did Bush. I disagree with them. But I understand it because I believe Perry and Palin give off the perception that they're not intelligent...which i think is deliberate on their part because they're trying to attrach THEIR base, which doesn't like intellectualism.

I think you, as a serious blogger, should not go down to the level of some of the posters here to question Obama's intelligence. It would be beneath you.

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 08:17 AM (NadeK)

315 As much as a I hate to say it, Perry's immigration policy seems quite dumb.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 08:17 AM (psns8)

316 300

"Graduated from Columbia, Harvard Law, served on Harvard Law Review,"


Translation: Got accepted and pushed through Ivy League schools as an Affirmative Action Token; held a no-show, no-write any articles Affirmative Action Job with the Harvard Law Review to make all the rich white preppie kids feel better.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:18 AM (niZvt)

317 I just took charge of my 'kitchen center'.  The oven was a struggle, but I triumphed after much gnashing of teeth and heroic struggle

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 29, 2011 08:18 AM (UqKQV)

318 Yeah, remember when the MSM came out and asked if Ronald Reagan was dumb?

Posted by: izoneguy at August 29, 2011 08:19 AM (i6Neb)

319 I think you, as a serious blogger, should not go down to the level of some of the posters here to question Obama's intelligence. It would be beneath you.

See, this kind of shit is pure Dum-Dum.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (OK/vv)

320 BTW, are these reporters of the same stripe as the same ones that stand out in sucking down raw sewage?  Does that shit taste a little sandy?  We've never seen anything like this.  Dumbasses.

Posted by: kansas at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (mka2b)

321

Deja fucking vu. Military pilots dumb. Dopesmoking, cocaine snorting, douchebags, smart.

"Every man thinks meanly of himself for not having been a soldier, or not having been at sea."  - Samuel Johnson

 

That's really why they do it kansas.  Self-loathing.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (sbV1u)

322
After college, Obama went on to starting a business, Apple Inc.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (sqkOB)

323 You can look up the exams and syllabi from the courses he taught at U Chicago, from Jodi Cantor, July 29th ,2008; in the Times

Posted by: captain smith at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (1kwr2)

324 325 DrewM,

"Ok, Meghan went to ivy. But Meghan's a celebrity with a senator for a dad. Obama isn't. Also, Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing."

No; but he IS black, and coasted on that his whole life.

Anyway, no one would need to stoop to anything if he simply released his transcripts, his thesis, etc.  Really, it is astonishing how little this guy has ever released about himself.  Even a stupid birth certificate had to turn into a knockdown melodrama before he finally let it out.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (niZvt)

325 AllenG I was referring to the anti-abortion pledge and gay marriage pledge. Each sounds harmless at least to the base but the details of the pledges puts Perry in a position where he may have to break them. For instance it is my understanding that the abortion pledge restricts who he would appoint to government positions.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 12:16 PM (s0uvO)

Yep, it sure limits his choices. Rudy, for example. 

Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 08:20 AM (uVnnt)

326
After law school, Obama started his own law firm.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (sqkOB)

327 Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 12:16 PM (s0uvO)

Ah. 

Okay, the abortion pledge just says (as far as I know) that he'll only appoint strict construnctionalist (or, as some say: intentionalist) justices.  No problem there.

The Gay Marriage pledge... well, over 50% of the nation agrees with that.  The mainstream position is that homosexuals shouldn't get married.  Add to that the very rapid evidence we've had (since SCOAMF decided, unilaterally, that DOMA was unconstitutional) that the "gay lobby" is really the "sexual deviancy" lobby- and they're already trying to make pedophilia "normal."

I'm not seeing a problem with either of those pledges.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (8y9MW)

328 284
Obama 2012
Because He Works Very Hard...Sometimes

OBAMA 2012: Because He Means Well

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (0M3AQ)

329

Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing.

Again, what is the track record?

Produce it.

 

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (sbV1u)

330

Yeah, remember when the MSM came out and asked if Ronald Reagan was dumb?

When that didn't work they came up with, he wouldn't be to the right enough for today's Republican party.

Posted by: madtechie at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (wIVOB)

331 Hey, where's Perry?

Posted by: Phineas at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (DrWcr)

332 On another point it's ridiculous how the left uses wikipedia to spread their half truths and misinformation. They have been very busy on Perry's entry. Freaking scum drinkers.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:21 AM (s0uvO)

333 Ok, Meghan went to ivy. But Meghan's a celebrity with a senator for a dad. Obama isn't.

OK What that is supposed to demonstrate is that those admission standards aren't carved into diamond.

Here is what I am going to call an "unbiased rational check"
Granted Obama's parents probably don't have the pull to get him into Columbia on their own.

Did the student Obama have *any* other leverage that would have helped him get into college that the average student did not have?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 08:22 AM (0q2P7)

334
After college, Obama went on to apply his economic expertise on Wall Street.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:22 AM (sqkOB)

335
After college, Obama decided to give back to the community by helping poor people in a third world country.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:23 AM (sqkOB)

336 George Bush without brains. Nominating Perry is too stupid to contemplate

Posted by: Winning at August 29, 2011 08:23 AM (yFHtF)

337 329 Yeah, remember when the MSM came out and asked if Ronald Reagan was dumb?

Posted by: izoneguy at August 29, 2011 12:19 PM (i6Neb)



EVERY Single Republican to run for President is "dumb" per the Media, and EVERY Single Liberal, a SHEER GENIUS.


Clinton was a "policy wonk" and "brilliant," until the Media decided Obama was the Second Coming of Einstein.


Reagan was stupid, Bush was stupid, McCain was a vampire (remember that idiotic magazine photo that was doctored by some liberal cunt?), Palin was Stupid, now Perry is The Stupid.


It's just amazing how consistent the Media is.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:23 AM (niZvt)

338 As much as a I hate to say it, Perry's immigration policy seems quite dumb.

Sadly, this is probably true.  I understand where he's coming from on this, I really do.  I just also disagree.

That said, he's not "open borders" as some would suggest, and he's not exactly "pro-amnesty" either.  I kind of think he hopes that "secure the border" will sell well enough, and take long enough, that he never has to answer the question of what we do with the 12m+ illegals we already have.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:23 AM (8y9MW)

339

Did the student Obama have *any* other leverage that would have helped him get into college that the average student did not have?

Why yes, yes he did.

He had an high melanin count.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:23 AM (sbV1u)

340

338
After law school, Obama started his own law firm.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

 

From what little we are allowed to know, he never worked as a lawyer. Amazing fact given his "Harvard Law Review Editor" resume. I wonder why all those powerful, rich, Demo Law Firms decided to pass on Sparky? Shit, they normally would pick up a middling lawyer if he were black just to make quota. So why didn't they bring him in? Too dumb?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:24 AM (0M3AQ)

341 Obama/Stephen Hawking 2012: I'll Get It Right This Time, You'll See

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:24 AM (AZGON)

342 OBAMA 2012: AA PLUS!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:25 AM (niZvt)

343

Again, what is the track record?

 

Affirmative Action aka Academic Eaz-E Pass

Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2011 08:25 AM (2P5tX)

344 Is it true Barry and Michelle both gave up their law licenses?

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 29, 2011 08:25 AM (OVCfn)

345
I think Obama supposedly did work briefly for a private law firm. But as far as I know he never litigated any cases.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (sqkOB)

346 Governor of the largest state in the lower 55 vs. a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure with multiple social security numbers who had to surrender his license to practice law for lying on his bar application.

Yeah, libtards are apoplectic at the concept of President Perry.

Buy futures in duct tape now.

Posted by: TexBob at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (7cXE7)

347
Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing.

Yep. He fucks up everything he touches.

Posted by: mpurinTexas, Evil Conservanatrix, supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (J4Pnx)

348 OBAMA 2012: HARD PIVOT!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (niZvt)

349

Ok, Meghan went to ivy. But Meghan's a celebrity with a senator for a dad. Obama isn't. Also, Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing.

Look Schlappschwanz, both Obama's got in the same way: legacy. In the case of SCoaMF it was his Daddy, In Moochelles case it was her brother, who was on a basketball scholarship.

I apologize to the morons for calling this twit donkeydick. From now on he shall be known as Schlappschwanz. Go look it up

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (H/MnC)

350 Obama 2012.... Bless his heart

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (OVCfn)

351
I think Obama did hold one private sector job and that was it (the law firm). Not sure on that, though.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (sqkOB)

352 Again, what is the track record?

proudonkey, schooled in credentialism uber alles, doesn't understand that "graduating" isn't really an accomplishment, per se.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 29, 2011 08:26 AM (OK/vv)

353 Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 29, 2011 12:25 PM (OVCfn)

I believe (could be wrong, though) that they "suspended" them.  That is, there is (if I understand correctly) some amount of "maintenance" you have to do to keep an active law license, and by suspending it, you don't have to meet those requirements until you're actually ready to practice again.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:27 AM (8y9MW)

354

Rick Perry single-handedly filled and stacked 500 sand bags to save my small lake community yesterday.

And serviced my wife.

It was the least I could do.

 

 

 

 

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 08:27 AM (8ieXv)

355  Is it true Barry and Michelle both gave up their law licenses?
Don't know about him but her's is on inactive status. She didn't give it up nor was it taken from her.

Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (uVnnt)

356 Rick Perry is so stupid he managed to pilot the C-130, become Governor of Texas for ten years, and preside over nearly half the jobs created nationally since 2008 without performing fellatio on Richard Daley or cashing in on Ivy League affirmative action programs. Fool.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (AZGON)

357 355 OBAMA 2012: AA PLUS!
  OBAMA 2012: HE'S LEARNED TO RIDE WITHOUT A HELMET!!

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (0M3AQ)

358

"Also, Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing."

 

He never even had the one time thing until he was elected to office.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (kaOJx)

359 Meghan McCain graduated from Columbia. Enough said about that.

Don't forget I be teaching at the Cornell, yo.

Posted by: Cornel West, that's Doctor West to you at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (pLTLS)

360 It's the second principle of the pledge that says he would appoint only pro life people to relevant Cabinet and executive branch positions.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (s0uvO)

361 OBAMA 2012: MARTHA'S VINEYARD
OR BUST!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (niZvt)

362 Thanks for the answer about the law licenses...

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 29, 2011 08:28 AM (OVCfn)

363 Obama had a consistent track record, ...according to his own words, in the Special Olympics.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:29 AM (AZGON)

364

You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the internal polling has Obama in deep trouble for next year's election.  Ergo the left believes it has to preempt Perry's candidacy.  (To a lesser extent they're also simply engaging in standard leftist projection.)  The personal attacks on Perry's intellect were predicable.  As we get closer to the key primaries they'll increase in scope and in viciousness too.  They'll go after his wife.  They'll go after his kids.  So on, so forth. 

Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 29, 2011 08:29 AM (f8XyF)

365 After college, Obama went on to apply his tremendous intellect to finding a "Church" that perfectly matched his Philosophy.

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 08:29 AM (i6RpT)

366 I wish Perry's web site would update where he is going to be.  They started out with a great Events section, but then they eliminated it, and now it only occasionally has things listed.  Maybe it's just that his schedule is fluid, but it would be nice to be able to track his appearances. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (5H6zj)

367 Uh, make that Princeton.

Posted by: Cornel West, that's Doctor West to you at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (pLTLS)

368
After college, Obama undertook a career in the auto industry.

oh wait, no he didn't

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (sqkOB)

369 I wish Perry's web site would update where he is going to be.

Thank.You. I've been bitching about this for two weeks now.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (pLTLS)

370 After college, Obama went on to apply his tremendous intellect to finding a "Church" that perfectly matched his Philosophy.

OH WAIT -- YES HE DID!
You forgot the important part.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (Qxe/p)

371
After college, Obama paid all his outstanding parking tickets.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (sqkOB)

372 "We are the ones we've been waiting for"

who is we?, and  we've been waiting for what?

i mean , what??

the oceans to lower? the musicians to play?

what does that even mean?

what idea  is he speaking to?

that whole messianic crap with halo, creeped alot of people out.

you set Him up to fail, because there was NO way He could deliver.

Posted by: willow at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (h+qn8)

373

I think you, as a serious blogger, should not go down to the level of some of the posters here to question Obama's intelligence.

Questioning President Obama's intelligence can take many forms. Is he smart? Yes, of course he is. Anyone with the wherewithal to become the President of the United States is very smart in a few important capacities. As such, it's foolish to underestimate him.

How is he smart? In what ways is he smart? In what capacities is he smart? I still don't know. At this point, I'd say one of his greatest skills is his abilitiy to hide things, especially about himself.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 29, 2011 08:30 AM (RZRz9)

374 Hey, Barry and my unemployment rate completely kicked Bush's ass!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (7BU4a)

375

I have a family friend who was (and still is) very well connected to the Obama campaign.  As in so well-connected that he was writing some of his speeches in 2008.  If I gave this guy's name, about 80% of you would recognize it.

(And you'd all say "I hate that motherfucker!")

He made a comment to my wife in 2008 about how Obama was being "groomed" for this since he was 20.  It was a very cryptic comment then and he would not expand on it.  But looking back, I think he was saying that there was a network of friends throughout academia who knew Frank Davis Marshall and were there to ease young Barry's journey through the Ivies and beyond.

If that's even remotely true, it explains everything.

I would also point out this guy now has serious buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (sbV1u)

376 After college, Obama undertook a career in the autopilot industry. Fixed it for ya.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (AZGON)

377 Yes, many liberals think Perry, Palin are dumb, as they did Bush. I disagree with them. But I understand it because I believe Perry and Palin give off the perception that they're not intelligent...which i think is deliberate on their part because they're trying to attrach THEIR base, which doesn't like intellectualism.

I think you, as a serious blogger, should not go down to the level of some of the posters here to question Obama's intelligence. It would be beneath you.

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 12:17 PM (NadeK)

We're not against "intellectualism."  We're against malignant narcissism parading as "intellect" because we see where that has gotten us.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (UOM48)

378 Does Jonathan Martin look like Lard Lad from The Simpsons?


Why yes, yes he does.

Posted by: RWC at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (fWAjv)

379 Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 12:28 PM (s0uvO)

Okay.  So which "relevant" positions would those be, and why would he not do so in the first place?

Look, we know that, for instance, Condoleeza Rice is pro-choice.  But she was, what NSA and then Sec State?  Not exactly "relevant" to the abortion debate.  FDA Head might be relevant, but why shouldn't "pro-life" be a qualification there, under a Republican president?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (8y9MW)

380 "That said, he's not "open borders" as some would suggest, and he's not exactly "pro-amnesty" either." But why wouldn't he support the border fence? I mean, you don't get any simpler and effective than a border fence. And reduced tuition rates for illegals? COME ON!!! This has got to be some kind of cruel joke.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (psns8)

381 OBAMA 2012: THINGS CAN'T GET WORSE!!!

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:31 AM (0M3AQ)

382

Don't forget I be teaching at the Cornell, yo.

Obama/(Cornel) West 2012

"Because when you're gonna go crazy, go all out."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:32 AM (sbV1u)

383
After college, driven by a deep love for his country Obama enlisted...

oh wait..... no he didnt.


excellent!

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (sqkOB)

384 His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Hi!

Posted by: I'm Billy Mays, bitch! at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (MMC8r)

385 So, if Bam-Bam did so amazingly well at Columbia and Harvard, why hasn't he released his college records? I have two theories: 1. Miserable grades 2. A class schedule that consisted entirely of "Marxist Theory" and "Studies of Gender Issues in Contemporary African-American Literature."

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (PLvLS)

386 OBAMA 2012:  I'M NOT, UM, DONE YET!!!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (UOM48)

387 After college, driven by a deep love for his country Obama enlisted... oh wait..... no he didnt. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist and Perry supporter at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (qjUnn) Yeah like her would ever have gotten a security clearance????

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (i6RpT)

388 A republican is in your way, call him:

1. stupid

or

2. evil

If anyone objects, repeat.  If still not working try the other option.  Repeat as necessary.

Personal comment - Democrat propaganda is so hard because our people are so culturally aware, smart, tolerant, and nuanced.  That's why we have to follow this complicated list to know how to turn them against republicans.

Posted by: Leftist propoganda organ at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (v8Pb8)

389 The Legend of Obama's Great Intellectual Prowess boils down to this: growing up, he watched  Sydney Poitier movies until he learned his facial expressions and to talk like him.

And that, folks, is pretty much IT.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:33 AM (niZvt)

390 So I spent my entire professional career in academe.  I can tell you one thing.  Intellectuals (or academics) rarely mention their undergraduate schools and infrequently bring up where they went to grad school.  They talk about what they did.  Where they pursued their postdoctoral work.  What papers they published.  What scholarly lectures they gave.  In other words, what they accomplished. 

It is truly bizarre that Obama's supporters keep clinging to where he went to school a couple of decades ago. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:34 AM (5H6zj)

391
Obama is the most unremarkable man in history.

His bio is paper-thin. Yet he is sold as 'accomplished' and 'experienced.'

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:34 AM (sqkOB)

392

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (sbV1u)

I am pretty sure you then know who Emil Jones is. If not, look into it. A nasty piece of work

Posted by: Ma Bell at August 29, 2011 08:34 AM (H/MnC)

393 Yeah like her would ever have gotten a security clearance????

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 12:33 PM (i6RpT)

I have no doubt whatsoever he couldn't get a security clearance for an inside tour of the WH.  We had to have a Secret Service background check three weeks before our tour.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (UOM48)

394 We're against malignant narcissism parading as "intellect" because we see where that has gotten us.

Anyone notice that Bam-Bam would rather go on ESPN to explain his basketball picks than C-SPAN to explain his economic policies?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (PLvLS)

395 It is truly bizarre that Obama's supporters keep clinging to where he went to school a couple of decades ago. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 12:34 PM (5H6zj)



Well, he did win the Nobel Peace Prize! 



Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (niZvt)

396

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (0M3AQ)

oh yes they can!

Posted by: Historically Bad 2nd Terms For Presidents at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (3XDPM)

397

Obama is the 8th wonder of the world. That's for sure. Because none of us can figure out why he is in the White House right now.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (sqkOB)

398

I am pretty sure you then know who Emil Jones is. If not, look into it. A nasty piece of work

I do indeed.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:35 AM (sbV1u)

399

It still just astonishes me that this man, this petulant, child-like man, has reached what many in the world would consider the very pinnacle of success.

There are many, many milionaires in this world and  quite a few billionaires. There are people who lead enormous corporations with tens of thousands of employees. There are great humanitarians and leaders of nations far and wide, but there have only been 44 presidents in the history of this nation.

There is no position higher in status or influence in this world.

And, still, HE is who was chosen to hold that hallowed post.

 

I weep.

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (LyOUH)

400 <i>So, if Bam-Bam did so amazingly well at Columbia and Harvard, why hasn't he released his college records? I have two theories: 1. Miserable grades 2. A class schedule that consisted entirely of "Marxist Theory" and "Studies of Gender Issues in Contemporary African-American Literature."</i>

How bout all of the above.

Posted by: TexBob at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (7cXE7)

401

"But why wouldn't he support the border fence?"

Predator drones. More bang for the buck. Perry supports using them on the border.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (kaOJx)

402 That's the point AllenG the pledge does not define those positions. It's up to interpretation. Are you going to vet every low level hire at Health and Human Resourses to make sure they are not pro choice?

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (s0uvO)

403 Obama is the most unremarkable man in history. His bio is paper-thin. Yet he is sold as 'accomplished' and 'experienced.'
Posted by: Soothsayer

He must be smart. He got elected President of the United States based on nothing. The first Seinfeld President.

Posted by: kansas at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (mka2b)

404 His bio is paper-thin. Yet he is sold as 'accomplished' and 'experienced.' Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 12:34 PM (sqkOB) Paper thin? Shit it's non-existent. No one knew him, No one remembers him, No stories about him, No Record of him, No Nothing!

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 08:36 AM (i6RpT)

405 I watched a video this morning from a guy who's a US Marshall and has lots of friends in the Secret Service.  He said that SCOAMF is a two face liar to everyone and Michelle Antoinette is a racist bitch.

I guess that means the Secret Service guys are racist liars.

Posted by: © Sponge at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (UK9cE)

406 Harry Reid said that when he remarked to Barry on his speaking skilz, Barky replied, "It's a gift."

And "corpseman" from the CiC will never get old.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (UOM48)

407 Also, Obama had a consistent track record, not just a onetime thing.

You know Donkey; I was an undergraduate, in the middle of my class, and I still was published in a major professional journal while I was at school. And my academic performance was a whole lot milk soaked toast made into a nothing burger topped with bland sauce. The Neutral Planet called and asked if I was interested in a internship and I said "meh". And I have published work. And that's just while I was at school. Professionally I've produced many work products that are representative of my design history.

I have a hard time with the void, and the "IVY!!! GRADEZ!!!" argument. You say Obama was consistent. Well that is one huge inconsistency for an academic.

Bush was an Oil guy. If you went to him and said show me the oil, trust me he could. He could describe the where's and how's of his operation and show you where he drilled and why, and what he had produced.

Obama; the academic, with good credentials but nothing to show for it.

And FTR I'm far more interested in his thesis than I am in his grades.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (0q2P7)

408
Right out of Columbia, Berry's strict training and superior intellect allowed him to roll a joint with one hand and chop up a line of coke with the other.

Can Perry do that?
I think not!

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (p+mzQ)

409 I'm seeing ample evidence that proudonkeyshow is Palin Steele (formerly 'donkeyhotay,' 'member that?).

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (MMC8r)

410

A: Washington, Lincoln, and Obama

Q: Name two presidents and a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Couldn't you actually extend that to, "name 43 presidents and a SCFoaMF"? Okay, maybe 42.

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (LyOUH)

411 Could Obama get enuff of a security clearance to work as a clerk down at the Post Office 30 years ago?

With friends like Bill Ayers and attending a church like Wright's??

Christ, odds are the reason he won't cough up his own Master's thesis is a) it was written FOR him by Ayers, AND b) it was about the coming Revolution.

So... NO, Obama couldn't get clearance to use a parking meter in downtown New Haven.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:37 AM (niZvt)

412 Barack Obama is so cultured that when the Pope offered him the communion cup at Mass, the President recalled the story of the hapless woman who drank out of the fingerbowl. So he washed his hands in the chalice.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:38 AM (AZGON)

413

Questioning President Obama's intelligence can take many forms. Is he smart? Yes, of course he is. Anyone with the wherewithal to become the President of the United States is very smart in a few important capacities. As such, it's foolish to underestimate him.

How is he smart? In what ways is he smart? In what capacities is he smart? I still don't know. At this point, I'd say one of his greatest skills is his abilitiy to hide things, especially about himself.

That is a good point. I was always amazed when the left continually argued Bush was an idiot, or even mentally retarded. You do not get to the Presidency if you are are an idiot. 

But intelligence is only one requirement to be a successful president, and honestly not an overly important one. Far more important is the ability to choose good subordinates and set overarching themes of critical importance to the country for those subordinates to work on. Most of our great presidents had these abilities - Washington, Lincoln, Reagan. 

Even viewed from an ideologically neutral viewpoint, Obama has failed on both counts. His best picks have been merely competent, and his high level choices decidedly incompetent - Biden, Geithner, etc.

And the themes he has pursued? The country needs process on economic growth and deep spending cuts while Obama has focused on intentionally damaging the economy (in the interests of environmentalism and "fairness") and opening the budget spigots.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2011 08:38 AM (7BU4a)

414

Perry doesn't need three teleprompters to speak to 6th graders.  Obama does.

End of discussion.

Posted by: zane at August 29, 2011 08:38 AM (sQnt4)

415 At what point can the last few Obama supporters be called bitter clingers?

Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2011 08:38 AM (C/Pop)

416
After college, Obama founded a charity for cancer research.

Oh wait, no he didn't.


Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 08:39 AM (sqkOB)

417 Barack Obama is so cultured that when the Pope offered him the communion cup at Mass, the President recalled the story of the hapless woman who drank out of the fingerbowl. So he washed his hands dick in the chalice.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 12:38 PM (AZGON)


FTFY

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:39 AM (niZvt)

418 OBAMA 2012: POST TURTLES FIRST

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:39 AM (0M3AQ)

419

At what point can the last few Obama supporters be called bitter clingers?

When they pull the level for him again.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:39 AM (sbV1u)

420

After college, Obama founded a charity for cancer research.

Oh wait, no he didn't.

I hear he once healed a blind girl.

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (LyOUH)

421

Did Perry go to the hurricane command center?  Yeah, check out how Ike affected Galveston Island and the Texas coast.

Did Obama go to the hurricane command center?  Yeah, he heard there was going to be a big blow party.

Posted by: zane at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (sQnt4)

422 Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (psns

Because a 2000+ mile fence is a lot more problematic than the one Israel uses, and, as currently designed, isn't all that good anyway.  Moreover, there are parts of the border (go down to Big Bend, Texas, sometime) where a fence just isn't going to work, but sufficiently determined people can still cross.

He does support the use of drones to patrol the borders, and an increase in the border patrol and the national guard presence on the border.  So, not exactly open borders, he just doesn't think the border fence is the best way to secure the border (not sure I agree with him, there, but, as I said before, I can see where he's coming from).

As for the "instate tuition for illegals" a: Not actually his policy- the legislation started the process under GW.  b: (because I know a is weak tea), we have a very different relationship with Mexico in Texas than most other states.  As a result, our politicians often have nuanced views, shall we say (I don't agree, but I'm a hardliner).  That said, the "in state tuition for illegals" stipulated 3 things that make it less bad (not good, just less bad):
1- said illegal had to enter as a minor (that is, they couldn't be held criminally culpable for their entry).  2- They had to have spent at least the last 3 years in Texas schools, and must have graduated (I believe with a C+ GPA, but I could be mistaken there).  3- They had to apply, normally, for citizenship.

Like I said, I can't (and won't) completely defend him, but as I've done more research, I've actually become more sanguine with his positions.  They're still not strong enough for me, but they're miles better than anything any Democrat would ever come up with.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (8y9MW)

423 Seriously, that picture was pinned to the office bulletin board this morning,by the coffee pot and as gross as it is someone had impaled a dead fly on a pin and stuck it by his nose.

Posted by: sayoung at August 29, 2011 11:03 AM (k8Uie)

CONFESS!

Posted by: kathysaysso at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (ZtwUX)

424 432 At what point can the last few Obama supporters be called bitter clingers?

Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2011 12:38 PM (C/Pop)


I prefer to think of them as liberal Dead Enders.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (niZvt)

425 Wait...Freddy Krueger is OdipO's new economic advisor.  Seems about right.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 29, 2011 08:40 AM (4nfy2)

426 The Legend of Obama's Great Intellectual Prowess boils down to this: growing up, he watched  Sydney Poitier movies until he learned his facial expressions and to talk like him.

And that, folks, is pretty much IT.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 12:33 PM (niZvt)

Before he was elected, I'm sure I read somewhere that he used Rev. Wrights sermon tapes as a learning aid in his public speaking approach. Probably where he learned to selectively drop his 'g"s when transforming into black Southern preacher mode.

Posted by: long toss at August 29, 2011 08:41 AM (uVnnt)

427

432 At what point can the last few Obama supporters be called bitter clingers?

 

You mean those who cling to their Das Kapital and watch TeeVee shows for spiritual and intellectual reassurance?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:41 AM (0M3AQ)

428
Barack Obama: Proof that donkey punching is not okay.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (p+mzQ)

429 Frum - the killjoy gift to libtards everywhere.

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (0fzsA)

430 If Obama was so damn smart, wouldn't he have some ideas that are new and original?  All he ever offers is boilerplate liberalism, and regurgitations of programs and policies that have been around forever.  He deferred to Pelosi to craft the Stimulus and ObamaCare.  Never even offered a budget.

Where's the genius, exactly?

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (MMC8r)

431 In other news tonight, Debbie Wasserman Schultz freaked out at Reagan International this morning when a TSA pat down caused her merkin to fall off and land on the floor...

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (niZvt)

432 After college, Obama founded a charity for cancer research. Oh wait, no he didn't. Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 12:39 PM (sqkOB) Well he does smoke

Posted by: nevergiveup at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (i6RpT)

433 But why wouldn't he support the border fence? I mean, you don't get any simpler and effective than a border fence. And reduced tuition rates for illegals? COME ON!!!

What I read from Perry's own words on the fence was that he thought it was impractical.  IIRC he favored fencing select areas (I think he said high-density metro areas), with border patrols making up the rest of the difference.

The tuition thing is disappointing, but I think several states have that now, even if Texas was first.  And when I read the law, it was not targeted specifically at illegals.  It was a regional thing.  My recollection is that it included bordering states (or counties from bordering states), including Mexico.  I've also read that it has been tightened since it originally passed (back when Perry first assumed office), but I haven't bothered to read up on it. 

As of April of this year, these are the states with in-state tuition for illegals: Texas, California, Utah, New York, Washington, Illinois, Kansas, New Mexico, Nebraska and Wisconsin.  I think Maryland was considering a similar measure this year. 

So if that is the extent of his softness on immigration, I am ok with that, particularly given that he has clearly stated a preference for enforcement first before even considering a "path to citizenship."  In addition, him billing the feds for the costs Texas incurred incarcerating illegals was a nice touch that indicates he thinks it's a federal issue. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (5H6zj)

434 'intellectualism'.

Do libs even understand the concept? Or is it all knee-jerk association with attendance at the Ivy's?

I have more respect for the 'intellectualism' of the person that created the Pajama Jeans. At least it's a good that was created. And in theory patented. That's no easy feat.

Libs love to tout the 'intellectualism' in this particular administration.

Yes, here's that brain trust that's oh-so-intellectual.


Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (pLTLS)

435

Before he was elected, I'm sure I read somewhere that he used Rev. Wrights sermon tapes as a learning aid in his public speaking approach. Probably where he learned to selectively drop his 'g"s when transforming into black Southern preacher mode.

 

The same manner of speaking which found Hillary nailed to to wall.

Then again, Hillary's hillbilly-speak was really, REALLY bad!

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 08:42 AM (LyOUH)

436 Debbie Wasserman Schultz freaked out at Reagan International this morning when a TSA pat down caused her merkin to fall off and land on the floor... Merkin? Wall-to-walleye carpeting.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (AZGON)

437 I'm going to compile all the "Oh Wait, no he didn't" comments and make a page on my website.

Keep 'em coming!
Some things are priceless.  For the rest, we have normal AOS posts.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (Qxe/p)

438

         After college, Obama founded a charity for cancer research.
         Oh wait, no he didn't.
         I hear he once healed a blind girl.

If you call giving a hit off of a crack pipe "healing", then yes, yes he did.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (p+mzQ)

439 Greatest surprise of the day...

Gibson Guitar CEO is a GOP donor

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (OhYCU)

440 I have a theory. Democrats, like our friend here, glom on to Obama's Columbia and HLS credentials because it offers them one of their few opportunities to engage in school snobbery despite having mediocre credentials themselves. You could see this in journalists attacking Palin's background in '08. Many of the people we attacked as being elitists went to places nobody ever heard. This was their opportunity to live vicariously through Obama, to be elitists. It doesn't change the fact they've accomplished little academically to brag about. "265 Last time I checked, you needed tremendous academic credentials to get into Columbia and Harvard law. And even more stellar credentials to get into elite academia." Not really. Of course you wouldn't know because you fall into the category I listed above, but with affirmative action, Obama was able to get into Harvard Law without even graduating cum laude. Now, I actually don't think he's the idiot everybody else here says he his, but if you've known many Ivy Leaguers, there's nothing particularly impressive about graduating in the middle of your class (at best) in the humanities, much less at the genius level.

Posted by: AD at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (j9EGH)

441

Then again, Hillary's hillbilly-speak was really, REALLY bad!

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 12:42 PM (LyOUH)


Ahhh shooh enuff wahs taaahhhed of it!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (niZvt)

442 431

Perry doesn't need three teleprompters to speak to 6th graders.  Obama does.

End of discussion.

Posted by: zane at August 29, 2011 12:38 PM (sQnt4)

This.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 08:44 AM (9hSKh)

443 425 I'm seeing ample evidence that proudonkeyshow is Palin Steele (formerly 'donkeyhotay,' 'member that?).

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 12:37 PM (MMC8r)

Don't forget Cain's Pizzeria.  You know what one of the biggest indications is?  He just completely ignores any reference to the fact that he is Palin Steele and he hopes that will be enough to keep up his charade.  He actually thinks his idiocy doesn't just burn through his words.

So where did you move to Palin Steele?  Or did you get another unpaid internship where you could waste their time trolling a blog?  Or maybe you managed to get another girlfriend who will dump you once she realizes you are just using her for her bandwidth instead of her personality.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 08:45 AM (GULKT)

444 Fox News alert:  Megyn Kelly just brought up the Politico hit piece she'll be covering.

And shoot me now:  the same tea partier who sent me the OMG Rick Perry is a Muslim!!!  Just sent one that OMG Rick Perry is a RINO and supports open borders!!!!!!11111

If this keeps up, I'm leaving the tea party.  Seriously.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 08:45 AM (UOM48)

445

Anyone notice that Bam-Bam would rather go on ESPN to explain his basketball picks than C-SPAN to explain his economic policies?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at August 29, 2011 12:35 PM (PLvLS)

 

As usual its the path of least resistence for him... 

http://tinyurl.com/3ryqbla


 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 08:45 AM (8ieXv)

446 Can you imagine if George W. tried mimicking a southern black accent?

My GOD, the accusations of "Putting on a Minstrel Show!" would be screeched on every liberal blog and magazine cover!

Hypocrites.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:45 AM (niZvt)

447 2nd surprise...

Gibson Guitar is non-union

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:45 AM (OhYCU)

448

458 Greatest surprise of the day...

Gibson Guitar CEO is a GOP donor

 

Can someone determine the CEO of Martin Guitars political contributions?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:46 AM (0M3AQ)

449 Are you going to vet every low level hire at Health and Human Resourses to make sure they are not pro choice?

Seriously?  This is your problem?  The President doesn't appoint low level anything.  He appoints his cabinet advisers and the top-level positions.  They then set policy.

Believing otherwise is like John Carry's "Edward Nigma" in the stupid franchise of Batman movies, "You hired me.  Well, you weren't there, but it was your name on the hiring slip."

It doesn't matter how pro-choice some low level HHS employee is; if they know the policy is "life first" and that they'll be s-canned if they don't comply, they'll comply.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:46 AM (8y9MW)

450 Like the race card, the "dumb" card is dog-eared, frayed and pretty torn. It's nearly impossible to deal any longer. Like the "not another Texan" quip. Right now many people look at the years under Teh Texan and think that is worth a second look.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:47 AM (AZGON)

451 The C.E.O., Chris Martin IV, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of election cycles. According to C.F. Martin’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood.” In case you were wondering, that is the exact same wood in at least ten of Gibson’s guitars.

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:47 AM (OhYCU)

452 I do give Obama great credit for getting his fellow Democrats and the Media to stop referring to Conservatives as Terrorists and Hostage Takers.

Oh, wait... He didn't!

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 29, 2011 08:48 AM (niZvt)

453

I will give the Left points for consistancy: they always START with "the conservative candidate is stewpid".

But from Carter forward  inlcluding Slick Willie, John Kerry, Al Gore and The SCOAMFTM, the combined IQ of their candidates has totaled....a single cretian. No wonder they're into name calling if this is all they've had to offer.

Posted by: MrObvious at August 29, 2011 08:48 AM (qwhLZ)

454 "Not actually his policy- the legislation started the process under GW. b: (because I know a is weak tea), we have a very different relationship with Mexico in Texas than most other states . . . " Bush started this? What a shock. Thanks for the info, but I'm still perturbed. (And it isn't a pretty sight.) The "special relationship" is precisely the problem. I hope Perry sees the light after he gets some more political incentive to do so -- presiding over a nation that wants mass deportations.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 08:48 AM (psns8)

455 My GOD, the accusations of "Putting on a Minstrel Show!" I'll take season tickets. Like Empire of Jeff, I have learned to embrace my innate racism.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:48 AM (AZGON)

456

Can someone determine the CEO of Martin Guitars political contributions?

Big Democrat and doner to Demos.

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 29, 2011 08:49 AM (0OJd9)

457 Paging Issa

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 08:49 AM (OhYCU)

458 Klaatu nikto Obama.

Posted by: Gort at August 29, 2011 08:50 AM (AZGON)

459 469 The C.E.O., Chris Martin IV, is a long-time Democratic supporter, with $35,400 in contributions to Democratic candidates and the DNC over the past couple of election cycles. According to C.F. MartinÂ’s catalog, several of their guitars contain “East Indian Rosewood.” In case you were wondering, that is the exact same wood in at least ten of GibsonÂ’s guitars.     The funny thing is rosewood is usually used on the cheaper guitars - ebony is reserved for the quality ones. So it would seem our Fed Gov't is being used by the connected to further thier business interests. And this differs from fascisim how?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:50 AM (0M3AQ)

460 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a mis...  Oh, wait...

Posted by: Barak Obama at August 29, 2011 08:50 AM (niZvt)

461 Give the man some credit.  Obama went to the Hurricane Center and personally turned Irene into a tropical storm. Imagine what he could have done with Katrina.

Posted by: kansas at August 29, 2011 08:50 AM (mka2b)

462

I'll take season tickets. Like Empire of Jeff, I have learned to embrace my innate racism.

So have I.  Because as I recently discovered thanks to ourmoral betters on the left, the definition of "racist" is, "a person who believes everyone should be treated the same."

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:51 AM (sbV1u)

463 Thanks for the info, but I'm still perturbed.

I don't blame you, really.  I've admitted he's weak on the border for my tastes.  He just (in my opinion) blows all the other candidates out of the water in at least one way, so that it makes him the best of the crop.  Not perfect, not a messiah, not "the One," as some have accused, but the best of the currently available options.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:52 AM (8y9MW)

464 I hope Perry sees the light after he gets some more political incentive to do so -- presiding over a nation that wants mass deportations.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 12:48 PM (psns

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Which candidate is running on this platform?  Even non-candidate Palin is not going near that one.  She falls firmly into the squishy "path to citizenship" position most of them adopt. 

I don't think running on mass deportations is a winning strategy. That's simply reality. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:52 AM (5H6zj)

465 It's worse than the ESPN stuff. If Ulsterman is to be believed (and I'm not sure I buy it with his no sourcing bullshit) Obama is so zoned out he doesn't do much but obsess over news coverage of him all day and he reads shit like People Magazine.

Posted by: lu at August 29, 2011 08:53 AM (pLTLS)

466 As an old Marine F4 pilot and a retired airline pilot I can tell you one quality a pilot has that many other members of our society do not have. That is the ability to make a decision quickly based on  the information you have and your own intelligence. The presidency may not require quick decisions but it would surely help when debating your own cabinet. Pilots do not get many second chances like our esteemed leader has. The other thing that makes a good pilot different from many others is that he knows the consequences of his action may prove fatal. Do any of you think Obama feels that way about his terrible decisions? GWB was a pilot. No matter how you feel about him he was steady and did what he said he would do. Was he known as a flip/flop president? Hell no! Is Obama a flip/flop president? Hell yes!

Posted by: inspectorudy at August 29, 2011 08:53 AM (KOOZL)

467

You have to give him props for spanking his acolytes when they tried to frame Sarah Palin for causing the Gabby Giffords shooting.

 

Oh wait, he didn't.... 

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 08:53 AM (0M3AQ)

468 OT: Congressional news:

(1) Cantor memo on some House legislation for this fall

(2) RSC Looks to Advance ‘Growth’ Agenda, Mend Fences

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at August 29, 2011 08:54 AM (o2lIv)

469 " . . . the same tea partier who sent me the OMG Rick Perry is a Muslim!!! . . . " I appreciate Pam Geller's efforts, but I suspect she is a libertarian and has it in for Rick The Evangelical Perry for other reasons. Can you guess what THOSE would be?

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 08:54 AM (psns8)

470 You know what one of the biggest indications is?  He just completely ignores any reference to the fact that he is Palin Steele and he hopes that will be enough to keep up his charade.

Palin Steele also had the big investment in the 'Ivy League Constitutional Law Professor' meme.  Probably because of his own 'Harvard Law degree' (LOL).

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 08:54 AM (MMC8r)

471 I don't think running on mass deportations is a winning strategy. That's simply reality.

Certainly not until the border is functionally secure- and that's a job that will take at least a generation.

Even then, I'm not sure I'm for across the board, no-second-look, deportation.  Life happens, and it's messy.  Anyone who doesn't acknowledge, accept, and work with that is trying to live in a fantasy world.

All I can say is I hope their hot chicks all wear chainmail bikinis.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 08:55 AM (8y9MW)

472

It's worse than the ESPN stuff. If Ulsterman is to be believed (and I'm not sure I buy it with his no sourcing bullshit) Obama is so zoned out he doesn't do much but obsess over news coverage of him all day and he reads shit like People Magazine.

Ulsterman's "source" is not real, and all of his posts are fantasy.

But let's face it, it does not require one to stretch the imagination very far to think Barky likes spending most of the day in sweats and flip-flops watching ESPN.

It has a certain ring of "truthiness" as Ace said.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:55 AM (sbV1u)

473 Obama would never use cheap theatrics like dressing staffers in doctors' coats to push socialized medicine or hand out campaign t-shirts at a memorial ceremony after a bloody shooting. Oh, wait, yes he did.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:55 AM (AZGON)

474 AllemG you sound like you would ignore the Pledge just like Perry will have to that's why he should not have signed it. His pro life bonanfides were stellar already. As I said it's been my opinion for a decade that he doesn't think things through as well as he should.

Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 08:55 AM (s0uvO)

475

I suspect she is a libertarian and has it in for Rick The Evangelical Perry for other reasons. Can you guess what THOSE would be?

He doesn't like boobehs?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 08:56 AM (sbV1u)

476

Palin Steele also had the big investment in the 'Ivy League Constitutional Law Professor' meme.  Probably because of his own 'Harvard Law degree' (LOL).

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 12:54 PM (MMC8r)

The one he couldn't get a job with and pretty much admitted wasting his parents money getting.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 08:57 AM (GULKT)

477 Probably because of his own 'Harvard Law degree' (LOL). Hey, that Epson printer came free with his discount netbook.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 08:58 AM (AZGON)

478 He doesn't like boobehs?

I guess you haven't been keeping up with the "Rick Perry is ghey" whisper campaign. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:58 AM (5H6zj)

479

'Rons, are we of general consensus that this "Proudonky" is NOT a sock, but is actually a true infiltrator model Troll?

It's confusing both the Sock-dar and the Troll-dar.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at August 29, 2011 08:58 AM (sGtp+)

480 The whole Gibson guitar fiasco proves one thing:  There's a lot of power and money to be cut from the budget if the Federal government spends its time regulating trivial shit like this.

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 08:59 AM (MMC8r)

481 492 I appreciate Pam Geller's efforts, but I suspect she is a libertarian and has it in for Rick The Evangelical Perry for other reasons. Can you guess what THOSE would be?
___________

Are you trying to say that Rick Perry was the one pushing the Atlas Jugs meme in the moronsphere?

Posted by: Anachronda at August 29, 2011 08:59 AM (IrbU4)

482 What's with the bagels pic in the sidebar?  It's making me hungry!

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 08:59 AM (5H6zj)

483 Y-Not, what was his communication failure with the Gardasil vaccine?

Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at August 29, 2011 08:59 AM (MyByM)

484

Apparently flying planes in the military is for idiots.

We fify'd it for ya!!

Posted by: Democrat Eleetes What Love SCOAMF at August 29, 2011 08:59 AM (8DdAv)

485 I'm still guessing Average Joe. Not enough mistakes in spelling and punctuation to be a real troll. Or, perhaps it is just a really, really sentient spambot.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (AZGON)

486 Hell no! Is Obama a flip/flop president? Hell yes!

Obi's flip/flops are actually quite few in number as he never really takes a position on anything. More of a 'present' and 'I told Congress they need to get this taken care of' kind of a "leader".

Posted by: RioBravo at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (eEfYn)

487

I guess you haven't been keeping up with the "Rick Perry is ghey" whisper campaign. 

Frankly I wouldn't care if he was. 

Anyone.  But.  Obama.

But I figured that must have been the case since Pam is very proud of her rack.

If she'd be very prooud of some skin care products she'd be better off.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (sbV1u)

488 Posted by: polynikes at August 29, 2011 12:55 PM (s0uvO)

Say again?  I have just pointed out that he will not "have to" ignore the pledge in any way.  That, indeed he can keep it with a completely clear conscience, and probably would have abided (abode?) by its terms even without signing it.  I'll say again: I fully believe that anyone Rick Perry actually appoints (remember: that's cabinet positions and senior-level policy staff) who would be "pertinent" to the abortion discussion will be pro-life.  That's exactly what the pledge says anyway.

So, for signing something that says he'll do what he was going to do anyway, he gets to mark a check-box with his base.  I'm not seeing how that is less-than-sound decision making.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (8y9MW)

489 Y-Not, I'm not saying anyone is running on mass deportations. That would be dumb. But some of them seem more open to them than others. Mass deportations, by the way, don't have to be that massive to discourage future illegals and incentivize current illegals to just go home. It's just part of a larger attrition strategy.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (psns8)

490 They already showed us what levels they will stoop to to destroy someone. There's no limit, because you are dealing with power-hungry fucks who have no moral compass and zero compunction with regards to fucking their enemies. Many in the conservative movement sat back and let it happen to Palin and even helped it along by agreeing that they "had a point" with some of their dreadful bullshit, not realizing it was us and not she who was actually under attack.

Some of you have now latched onto Perry, thinking it will somehow be different because he's so amazing or something. It's not going to be pretty and I genuinely hope he skates through it with minimal damage, especially because Bambi is so weak right now. But you were warned.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 11:33 AM (2MjOo)

Ok, so what is your suggestion? Give up, because any conservative we put out there is going to be savaged?

Posted by: KG at August 29, 2011 09:00 AM (LD21B)

491 504 The whole Gibson guitar fiasco proves one thing:  There's a lot of power and money to be cut from the budget if the Federal government spends its time regulating trivial shit like this.
    What, you don't want to tokenize the entire world and punish American citizens? You must be a racist. Who but the enlightened left can protect another country's resources?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 29, 2011 09:01 AM (0M3AQ)

492 Posted by: USMC 8541 at August 29, 2011 12:58 PM (sGtp+)

I'm going with "troll."

I'm also ignoring it's posts as much as possible.  It's a cloudy day (with some rain, earlier) here in Texas, so I'm in a good mood.  I don't want to spoil it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 09:01 AM (8y9MW)

493 509 Y-Not, what was his communication failure with the Gardasil vaccine?

He admitted he failed to communicate with Texans before acting.  In that case, I'd say 75% of his failure was to listen (which he admitted himself), but it does also seem as though he failed to explain why he wanted to make it "opt-out" instead of "opt-in."  Had he done a better job of that, he might not have had so much push-back.   

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 09:02 AM (5H6zj)

494 Those aren't bagels in the sidebar, they are doughy, baked symbols of our noble President. Empty in the center, surrounded by golden brown calories.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 09:02 AM (AZGON)

495

 I don't care about someone's IQ.  I care about their functional intelligence.  They need to be able to communicate their goals clearly, assemble and lead a good team of advisors, map out a plan of actions to achieve the goal, and actually accomplish their goals. 

Obama fails on every front

 

IMHO, Dick and his regime are succeeding in every one of their goals for this nation.  One just has to be thinking in terms of the destruction rather than the defending and protecting the US Constitution and the sovereignty of this country.  

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 29, 2011 09:02 AM (ipxOT)

496 but it does also seem as though he failed to explain why he wanted to make it "opt-out" instead of "opt-in."  Had he done a better job of that, he might not have had so much push-back.

Actually, he went one further than that and said (this may even be a real quote): I should have made it an opt-in.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

497

Those aren't bagels in the sidebar, they are doughy, baked symbols of our noble President. Empty in the center, surrounded by golden brown calories.

Thread winner.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 09:03 AM (sbV1u)

498 It's been too long.

Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 09:03 AM (8y9MW)

499 First saw proudonkey dick yesterday while lurking on the same thread that averagejoe was sock-trolling AGAIN. Could immediatley tell it was averagejoe but proudonkey balls is the real deal. Flame on.

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 09:03 AM (8ieXv)

500 As an old Marine F4 pilot and a retired airline pilot I can tell you one quality a pilot has that many other members of our society do not have. That is the ability to make a decision quickly based on  the information you have and your own intelligence.

Posted by: inspectorudy

 

I'd imagine keeping straight what each airplane can and cannot do is an important detail as well? Treating the 707 like a phantom could lead to exciting times.

Semper fi.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 29, 2011 09:04 AM (326rv)

501 If this keeps up, I'm leaving the tea party.  Seriously.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 29, 2011 12:45 PM (UOM4


Oh quit with the drama. Last I checked Perry lead in the polls amongst self identified tea partiers ahead of MB or Cain. Everyone is going to throw out the RINO tag for the next 9 months.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 09:04 AM (0q2P7)

502 If Perry is dunb, Zero has a paramecium turd for a brain.

Posted by: Gun Dick Stroking Nutter at August 29, 2011 09:04 AM (OlN4e)

503
Bozo & Obama

Name 2 clowns and 1 stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 09:05 AM (p+mzQ)

504

Zero has a paramecium turd for a brain.

You say that like it's new news.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 09:05 AM (sbV1u)

505 "He just (in my opinion) blows all the other candidates out of the water in at least one way" That's where I am. I am hoping the Milton Friedman principle will play itself out after he gets into office: Voting the right people into office is less important than making it politically rewarding for the wrong people to do the right thing.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 09:05 AM (psns8)

506 If Rick Perry is so great, why hasn't he made it rain in Texas?  MY BARACK brought a whole HURRICANE to the eastern seaboard just to water Michelle's roses!  Eat that, wingnutz!

Posted by: proudonkeyshow at August 29, 2011 09:06 AM (MMC8r)

507 518 Posted by: USMC 8541 at August 29, 2011 12:58 PM (sGtp+)

I'm going with "troll."

I'm also ignoring it's posts as much as possible.  It's a cloudy day (with some rain, earlier) here in Texas, so I'm in a good mood.  I don't want to spoil it.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at August 29, 2011 01:01 PM (8y9MW)

Definitely Troll.  Almost certainly Palin Steele.  Based on his comment style.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 09:07 AM (GULKT)

508            533 Zero has a paramecium turd for a brain.

           You say that like it's new news.

It is news.

This is a huge improvement.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 09:07 AM (p+mzQ)

509 is the real deal. Flame on.

I've been waiting so patiently for the new batch of trolls for 2012. Are they here at last?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 09:07 AM (0q2P7)

510 Anne Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. Name a stuttering clusterfuck and a miserable failure.

Posted by: George Orwell what knows Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure at August 29, 2011 09:08 AM (AZGON)

511 Actually, he went one further than that and said (this may even be a real quote): I should have made it an opt-in.

Well, my question there is if that's because of necessity (to avoid getting his EO overturned) or because he really reconsidered his position.

As I understand it, the opt-out was a way to get the insurers to pay for it.  I could be wrong, but I think that's what I've been reading here.  If that's the case, then I can see sticking with the opt-out mode.  He simply should have spent more time persuading people and not done it by EO. 

Personally, I would not have been a fan of administering the vaccine through the schools simply because there is very weak evidence that it is transmittable via casual contact.  But in a ten-year term of office, any governor is going to make decisions I don't favor.  There's nothing about that decision that worries me in terms of how Perry would function as POTUS. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 09:09 AM (5H6zj)

512 539
bwahaha.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 29, 2011 09:09 AM (p+mzQ)

513 Stanley stuttered?

Posted by: nickless at August 29, 2011 09:09 AM (MMC8r)

514 I guess you haven't been keeping up with the "Rick Perry is ghey" whisper campaign.

Rick Perry...is a closet lesbian, thereby making the skirt-chasing and ghey slurs correct,

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 29, 2011 09:10 AM (9hSKh)

515

No, Perry ain't from Harvard. Here is a very incomplete list of Harvard elites who have done so much to lead the US to whee we are now.

Harvard Public Servants, Economists & Business Titans

Sandy Berger,Zbigniew Brzezinski,  Lloyd Blankfein (Goldman), Michael Bloomberg,  J. Paul Bremer,Stephen Breyer, George H W Bush, George W Bush, Kenneth Chenault,Michael Chertoff,Henry Cisneros,Christopher Cox (SEC),Jim Cramer, Zoe Cruz, Brad Delong,Jamie Dimon (Morgan), W H Donaldson (SEC), Douglas Feith ,  Edward C. Forst ,Roger W. Ferguson,Patrick Fitzgerald  Barney Frank, Al Franken,Ruth Bader Ginburg, Alberto Gonzalez,   Al Gore, Jamie Gorelick , (Fannie Mae), Michael Huffington, Jeff Immelt (GE), Alger Hiss, William "Freezer" Jefferson, Robert Steven Kaplan, Ted Kennedy,  Henry Kissinger, Harold Hongju Koh ,  Alan Krueger,Anthony Lake, Lawrence Lindsey,Daniel Mudd (Fannie Mae), Barack Obama,, O'Neal (Merrill Lynch),Hank Paulson,Samantha Power,  Franklin Raines (Fannie Mae), Robert Rubin (Citibank repeal of Glass), Paul Sarbanes, Chuck Schumer, Klaus Schwab,Bobby Scott,  Joe Sestak,  Brad Sherman, Larry Sommers, Elliot Spitzer,Cass Sunstein, Willard Tom, Chris Van Hollen, Paul Volker, Harry Dexter White, James Wolfensohn,Robert Zoellick (Fannie Mae-World Bank).

Media Types (A-list)

Fred Barnes, James Fallows,David Frum, Al Gore, David Gergen,Todd Gittlin,Donald Graham,Walter Isaacson, Michael Kinsley, Charles Krauthammer,Nicholas Kristof, William Kristol, Anthony Lewis, Suzanne Malveaux,Ken Mehlman, Grover Norquist, Soledad O'Brien, Bill O'Reilly, Bob Shrum, Cornel West, Mortimer Zuckerman

Rogues and Crackpots

Amy Bishop. Doris Kearns Goodwin, Al Gore, Michael Greenberg Theodore Hall, Alger Hiss, Theodore Kaczynski, Alfred Kinsey, Timothy Leary,Hassan Nemazee, Charles Ogletree, Lawrence Tribe, Oded Aboodi, Eugene Plotkin, David Rockefeller, Andrew Schliefer

Just a public service announcement.

Posted by: Hahvahd boo-ster at August 29, 2011 09:10 AM (1SmCr)

516 Evidence of Obama's brilliance:

He successfully avoided a grease stain by rolling up the presidential mom jeans while on a bike ride in MV.

Evidence of Obama's retardation:

He could have worn shorts. 

Posted by: SCOAMMJ at August 29, 2011 09:10 AM (BKOsZ)

517
nood post

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2011 09:11 AM (sqkOB)

518 Not to mention, he's arguably the greatest speaker of the modern age. (please don't bring up silly gaffes as rebuttal) His speaking ability has moved billions across the world, I can't remember the last time someone was able to do that, can you?

Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 11:40 AM

"We Are The Ones We've Been Waiting For" is a campaign t-shirt slogan, and very shallow one at that

Name a line from one of his speeches that you remember other than "Yes We Can" or "let me be clear" and "make no mistake"

Even his fanboys in the MBM admit that they can't remember what he said in his speeches

Posted by: kbdabear at August 29, 2011 09:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

519

Wild Bill for America.  Neat little vid.

Play this for your leftist fake friends if you want little fly specks of lefty brain mush on your ceiling.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 09:13 AM (jx2j9)

520 537 is the real deal. Flame on.

I've been waiting so patiently for the new batch of trolls for 2012. Are they here at last?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 01:07 PM (0q2P7)

Oh this one makes Palin Steel and Honest Cloud look like a RNC booster.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 09:13 AM (8ieXv)

521

Ok, so what is your suggestion? Give up, because any conservative we put out there is going to be savaged?

Posted by: KG at August 29, 2011 01:00 PM (LD21B)

Yes. Give up. Give up now and vote Democrat for Life. They won. We lost. It's over.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 29, 2011 09:13 AM (2MjOo)

522 For the record, I don't think Rick Perry has any interest in Pam Geller's frontage. But you have touched on a HUGE pet peeve of mine: Skanky Conservative Women Activists. My point was that Pam Geller and many, many prominent bloggers are actually libertarians (see: Breitbart) who want a fiscal con to get the nomination so they can complete the purge of social conservatism from the Republican Party. If they can't get a fiscal con, they'll take a social con squish (Romney on a good day) who will allow them to run roughshod over him. Rick Perry doesn't seem like he'd allow that. Hence, Geller's opposition.

Posted by: NotALibertarian at August 29, 2011 09:14 AM (psns8)

523 At least Obama never raised taxes on the middle class by "One thin dime!"

Oh, wait... He DID!

Posted by: Barak Obama at August 29, 2011 09:15 AM (niZvt)

524

Oh dear Lord.

I had forgotten how truly, unforgivably horrible her hillbilly accent really was.

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 09:15 AM (LyOUH)

525 Just remember, Barack Obama is the greatest intellect of all time.  Smarter than Aristotle.

And look what a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure he is.

It's almost as if socialism doesn't work, no matter who's in charge.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 29, 2011 09:16 AM (T0NGe)

526

AllenG and dananjcon- 

ah..excellent! I was leaning towards true infiltrator model Troll because it's posts don't have the flavor of our regular Trolls.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at August 29, 2011 09:16 AM (sGtp+)

527 I wish Geller would brutally punish my face with her tits....

Posted by: Gun Dick Stroking Nutter at August 29, 2011 09:16 AM (OlN4e)

528 prouddonkey, I'm LAUGHING at the superior intellect

Posted by: Admiral James T Kirk at August 29, 2011 09:17 AM (Y+DPZ)

529

I've been waiting so patiently for the new batch of trolls for 2012. Are they here at last?

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 29, 2011 01:07 PM (0q2P7)

Unfortunately its just a rehash of an old troll.  The one that thinks Obama is Captain America.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 09:17 AM (GULKT)

530

Obama was once incredibly magnanimous in giving credit where credit was due.

 

No. No he didn't do that either.

Posted by: Clueless at August 29, 2011 09:18 AM (LyOUH)

531 Someone was asking up thread where Perry is.  He spoke at the VFW convention

Posted by: Y-not at August 29, 2011 09:19 AM (5H6zj)

532 We should change it from GOP to DOP, Dumb Ol' Party.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 29, 2011 09:20 AM (3PWwL)

533

Play this for your leftist fake friends if you want little fly specks of lefty brain mush on your ceiling.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 29, 2011 01:13 PM (jx2j9)



That's the vid I mentioned seeing earlier.

Thanks for posting the link.


Posted by: © Sponge at August 29, 2011 09:20 AM (UK9cE)

534 560 prouddonkey, I'm LAUGHING at the superior intellect

Posted by: Admiral James T Kirk at August 29, 2011 01:17 PM (Y+DPZ)

OMG, that's it.

That's it!

Perry is Kirk and Obama is Khan.  True, a whiny metrosexual Khan, but an arrogant asshole who wants nothing more than murder and revenge.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 29, 2011 09:21 AM (T0NGe)

535

Oh this one makes Palin Steel and Honest Cloud look like a RNC booster.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 01:13 PM (8ieXv)

Nah.  Proudonkey = Palin Steele.  The writing style is the same.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 09:23 AM (GULKT)

536 Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (sbV1u)

Franklin Marshall Davis was also a pedophile that played for both teams.  Methinks Barky was a victim.

Posted by: just saying at August 29, 2011 09:24 AM (ecmEP)

537

Quoth the smartest man alive:

UNDERGROUND

Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance,
Tumble in the
Rushing water,
Musty, wet pelts
Glistening in the blue.

Posted by: Blacksheep at August 29, 2011 09:26 AM (8/DeP)

538

Nah.  Proudonkey = Palin Steele.  The writing style is the same.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 01:23 PM (GULKT)

Mommy must have bought it a new computer.

 

Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2011 09:27 AM (8ieXv)

539

I'm not worried about the Tea Party.  In every large movement there's going to be fringe elements.  And guess who the MFM is going start showcasing?  It's part of the the leftist demogogue and harangue. 

Just remember the that the Tea Party is a movement, not an organization.  It contains people of all parties.  It has left of center, right of center, center, conservative, and, yes, the "War of the Undead States" types. 

The goal should not be diminished though.  And that's to get rid of Dick Obama and return this nation to a more sane government.

 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 29, 2011 09:28 AM (ipxOT)

540 new thread, first post

Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 29, 2011 09:28 AM (OhYCU)

541 I think you, as a serious blogger, should not go down to the level of some of the posters here to question Obama's intelligence. It would be beneath you.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 29, 2011 12:17 PM

This comment seals the deal that proudonkey is indeed dum-dum. The "you're too smart to say that" appeal to ace and the co-bloggers was signature palin steele

I bring you this classic from the height of palin steele's time here;

palin steele uses the "dum-dum" name that ace gave him, but the hash of vd74 id'd it as him;

39 ace....I see you're really exploiting the current climate and tossing A LOT of red meat to your followers lately...3+ posts on the townhall violence in the past 4 hours.

I warn you to proceed with caution...you have a bigger effect than you imagine. Use your power for good...not evil.

Posted by: Dum Dum (an even bigger dummy than Lamont) at August 07, 2009 08:09 PM (VDj74)

Then a classic reply from a moron;

I warn you to proceed with caution...you have a bigger effect than you imagine. Use your power for good...not evil.

Yes, ace.  With great power, comes great responsibility.
Posted by: ace's Uncle Ben at August 07, 2009 08:25 PM





Posted by: kbdabear at August 29, 2011 09:28 AM (Y+DPZ)

542

Unfortunately its just a rehash of an old troll.  The one that thinks Obama is Captain America.

Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2011 01:17 PM

But the one that was the most fun.  I would have thought that as SCOAMF's poll numbers went down, the troll comments would rise.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 29, 2011 09:32 AM (Y+DPZ)

543 Obama is a fucking moron no matter how you slice it. An affirmative action recipient all the way. A dude who was told he was "special" all his life. the only reason anybody thinks he is intelligent is because the media said so. The dude is an assclown, period.

Posted by: Berserker at August 29, 2011 10:04 AM (FMbng)

544

The usual troll memes are, and have been since the times of us:

 

He's stupid.

He can't win.

He has no experience.  ( Ignore Lincoln, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, the Wright Brothers, Ford etc).

He isn't made of the right stuff.

He's out of the mainstream (translation doesn't belong to the Yale Club).

Too extreme  (he's not a charter member of the country club).

He's a racist.  (None of the other libels and slanders seem to work so we'll jus throw some mud)

Posted by: Molon Labe at August 29, 2011 10:11 AM (e36+G)

545 Where exactly does this guy think a flight plan comes from if not the pilot who has ultimate responsibility for the flight? DrewM

Hm. A flight plan comes through the chain of command from the commanding officer who orders the pilot to responsibly carry it through. Contrast being given a template to follow, compared to creating your own template to complete. How much leeway is a pilot granted to improvise during a flight plan without specific authorization given regulations and protocol? The author was stating that its one thing to be given orders and to execute them, and quite another thing to be the CinC.


Posted by: maverick muse at August 29, 2011 10:11 AM (lpWVn)

546 Ronald Reagan school of management: “Trust people and manage well.”

Trust but Verify seems more the resolution after getting caught with pants down rather than a policy from an onset. 

Perry is no Reagan who knew how to humbly compliment his harshest critics admitting their assessment to be honest, accurate and helpful.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 29, 2011 10:27 AM (lpWVn)

547 Ivy League does not mean quality education

Brown is the leading purveyor of the Uncurriculum or as they call it the "New Curriculum", where students are allowed to enroll in any class they wish to and given a degree no matter what classes they took.  And as far as grades go, At the initiative of the instructor, courses may be designated to be graded on a Satisfactory/No Credit basis for all students enrolled.  And given the curriculum standards, you know classes are chosen based on the grading policy of the professor.

If you are talking to an Ivy Leaguer and they were pre-med, they're very well educated, but otherwise not so much...

kore kourses are for chumps

Posted by: phreshone at August 29, 2011 10:28 AM (T3vCe)

548 Jonathan Martin of Politico sucks with the persistence of Obama.

Posted by: maverick muse at August 29, 2011 10:35 AM (lpWVn)

549 I'm seeing ample evidence that proudonkeyshow is Palin Steele (formerly 'donkeyhotay,' 'member that?).

There is a familiar whiff of naivete and chubby failure about it.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 29, 2011 10:35 AM (GTbGH)

550 Everyone just assumes Obama is a bright guy but there's precious little proof of it.

It's da way he talks, n' shit. He doan' do dat ghetto sound, ya know?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 29, 2011 10:38 AM (1rHeD)

551

577 When obama personally executes anything close to an op order ... let me know.

Posted by: Honey Badger at August 29, 2011 10:47 AM (GvYeG)

552 HEY! When I ask a politician a surgically precise question like whether a rising China is good for the US or not, the LAST thing I expect in response is BROAD GENERALITIES!!!

Posted by: Dave M at August 29, 2011 11:24 AM (Ur7vs)

553
The SS Titanic is the California of airplanes.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 29, 2011 11:58 AM (fEmj2)

554 Still no takers. Sad Even his base is abandoning him.

Posted by: mueller at August 29, 2011 12:34 PM (QO+2f)

555

He made a comment to my wife in 2008 about how Obama was being "groomed" for this since he was 20. It was a very cryptic comment then and he would not expand on it. But looking back, I think he was saying that there was a network of friends throughout academia who knew Frank Davis Marshall and were there to ease young Barry's journey through the Ivies and beyond.

If that's even remotely true, it explains everything.

I would also point out this guy now has serious buyer's remorse.

Posted by: Sean Bannion at August 29, 2011 12:31 PM (sbV1u)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

But I bet he votes for Obama again, doesn't he? And hates on Perry at every public opportunity. Because anything else would hurt the cause.

Posted by: Average Jen at August 29, 2011 01:55 PM (JdwfN)

556 I donÂ’t usually add my comments, but I will in this case. Nice work. I look forward to reading more.

Posted by: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People AudioBook at August 29, 2011 03:38 PM (pCCk4)

557 thanks a lot
hard job

Posted by: CCcam at August 29, 2011 08:06 PM (Nij6I)

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