August 30, 2011
— Ace It's not Allah's fault -- the prognostication he's forced to link are just stupid.
I have to link it too. It's really dumb.
A guy called Lichtman is calling the race, and he says Obama wins.
There are 13 keys to victory, he says, and whoever grabs six wins.
Now this guy claims Obama has nine in his pocket:
1. No contested primary2. Incumbency
3. No third-party candidate
4. Major domestic-policy changes in his first term
5. No social unrest
6. No major scandals
7. No major foreign-policy failures
8. Major foreign-policy achievements in his first term (killing Bin Laden)
9. Little charisma by his likely opponent
Um, "no social unrest"? Does he mean rioting? Well, the public's in a riotous mood.
"Major domestic policy changes?" Let me explain something, that's because such changes are usually popular. ObamaCare has been unpopular since it was snuck through the Senate in the dead of night and has only become more so.
Shouldn't this indicator actually flip the other way when the domestic policy changes in question are extremely unpopular?
"No major scandals" -- We'll see. He's probably right because the one thing the media can definitely do is refuse to report a scandal.
"No major foreign-policy failures" -- This one's debatable.
"Little charisma by his likely opponent" -- Going to take that one to the bank? I assume he means Mitt Romney, but the problem there is 1, Mitt Romney is sorta growing on me, personality wise, 2, Romney appears to be a stronger-than-usual challenger, and 3, it's not even super-likely to be Romney, given Perry is leading him and not by a little bit.
Lichtman claims he doesn't know what the short-term economic situation will look like in 2012, so he can't assign that one either way. Oddly, he is a precognitive psychic on seeing the future and knowing that Obama will not see Gunwalker blossom into a major scandal, and that Obama's opponent will have low charisma.
He also knows that, say, Libya won't blow up in Obama's face. Or Iraq. Or Afghanistan. Or... Iran.
But on the economy? Gee, who could guess on that one, huh?
Allah writes:
All of which assumes, of course, that this will be an ordinary election like the past seven were. Maybe it will; maybe there’s no such thing as an extraordinary election. But the state of the economy is surely extraordinary, poised as it is for a double-dip, and unemployment is extraordinary compared to any other era over the past 75 years. That is to say, we’re assuming that these “Keys” are equally weighted in election after election, no matter the circumstances, when basic awareness of the current political climate suggests the two economic Keys will be weighted way more heavily than any of the others.
There are keys Licthman could have never anticipated -- like a $16 trillion dollar debt, which we're adding to at the rate of $1.5 trillion per year.
How about the US credit downgrade? Unprecedented, so you can't even include it as a predictive variable.
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Employment? GDP growth? Stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?
These things are inconsequential.
Posted by: toby928™ Texan in Exile at August 30, 2011 01:34 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928™ Texan in Exile at August 30, 2011 01:35 PM (GTbGH)
One of "professor" Alan Lichtman's 13 points is about unemployment.
And I'll argue that that point carries more weight than all the other points combined.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 01:36 PM (sqkOB)
Oh, and Obama remains a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
If only I had some way to automatically note that when I commented...
Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada! at August 30, 2011 01:36 PM (GBXon)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2011 01:37 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 01:37 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: harrison at August 30, 2011 01:38 PM (MtuBU)
I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss Lichtman's 13 Points.
The points are subjective but good. It's Lichtman's conclusions that are wrong. But, again, some of the points are purely subjective.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 01:38 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 01:38 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: Dick Morris at August 30, 2011 01:39 PM (QKKT0)
btw, the average American probably regards the Obamas vacation habits as scandalous.
At the very least, it is seen as obscene.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 01:39 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: blaster at August 30, 2011 01:40 PM (l5dj7)
People would know more about the actions of this criminal administration if only we had a more responsible news media besides conservative and right-leaning outlets who are covering scandals like fast and furious, etc.
Posted by: Theresa D., TPT--SCOaMF is one and done! at August 30, 2011 01:40 PM (Zgfnd)
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 01:41 PM (4CSeG)
Lichtman's success is due to the points' subjective nature. It allows him to go in after the fact and claim that it was his fault in assigning the wrong Boolean value to it, and then he can come back in the next election and look good.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 01:41 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: gride at August 30, 2011 01:42 PM (7Iqhu)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 01:42 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2011 01:42 PM (FcR7P)
EPIC.FAIL.
Fuck this guy, the horse he rode in on AND the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure in the WH.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Magic 8 Ball, Whose Accuracy Record Is Better Than Some Guy Named Lichtman at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: EC at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (f4TZ2)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (OVCfn)
Watching Perry hang Obamacare and jobs around Barry's (figurative) neck will prove those two items deserve special ratings in a general election.
Posted by: Dick Nixon at August 30, 2011 01:43 PM (kaOJx)
He wouldn't have posted her inanities for as a running gag or anything, right?
Posted by: Mike Gallagher at August 30, 2011 01:44 PM (s1vtf)
How the fuck is THAT a major foreign policy achievement? He pissed off 3/4s of the mid east with that move. He communicated nothing, went into a sovereign nation (*cough*) and assassinated someone without their permission, then gloated about it for a month.
That's NOT a foreign policy achievement, douchebag.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 30, 2011 01:44 PM (UK9cE)
Posted by: Flash Mobs -- Comign to a City Near You! at August 30, 2011 01:45 PM (pLTLS)
There are 13 keys to victory, he says, and whoever grabs six wins.
Seriously? 6 > 7?
You said he was a mathematician, right?
Posted by: Entropy at August 30, 2011 01:45 PM (KeJbA)
Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor at August 30, 2011 01:46 PM (4sQwu)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 30, 2011 01:46 PM (s1vtf)
Posted by: Keith Arnold at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (Jdtsu)
"He also knows that, say, Libya won't blow up in Obama's face. Or Iraq. Or Afghanistan. Or... Iran."
Don't forget our upcoming Global Contagion World Tour! We're gonna rock the house down!
Posted by: Europe feat PIIGS. at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Mark Hanna at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (u+8qs)
So be it. No criticism of HA or the owner or editor is made or implied.
But boy, you should see what those Michigan results say about HA. Whew.
Posted by: Billl McInntturrrfff at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (QxSug)
Are you kidding?
Killing Osama bin Laden was the best thing ever!
I wouldn't trade it for anything -- a job, affordable heating fuel, $2/gal gas, or even the losses in my 401K.
Posted by: long time republican at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (sqkOB)
It's Lichtman's conclusions that are wrong.
#6 -- Operation Fast and Furious is getting slower and chickener as we speak.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (3n2lK)
yeah but History says otherwise:
- less then 50% of our Presidents have served more then one term and that's even when you count none-elected Presidents and terms they were elected to as incumbents (Teddy Roosevelt, Coolidge, LBJ, etc)
- we haven't had 3 straight Presidencies that were elected to 2 terms since Jefferson, Madison, Monroe
- high unemployment since WWII = no re-lection
- Presidents w/ approvals below 47+ = no re-election
- Presidents who win a new term as incumbents tend to GAIN support by winning states they lost the last time around and gain in popular vote (FDR in 40, Madison in 1812 being the exception to that)
we are due for a 1 termer
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 01:47 PM (yAor6)
"No major foreign-policy failures" -- This one's debatable.
Honduras, Iran, Egypt, Libya, for starters. Lichtman is wishcasting and sounds like he is trying to prevent a democrat primary challenge, not predict the general.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell is tanned, rested, and ready at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (0N5pL)
Posted by: Scott J at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (/bVuS)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (TMB3S)
This guy Lichtman, is he cognitively delayed?
The only reason Obama doesn't have any 'failures' is because the media refuses to call a spade a spade.
(I condemn my dog-whistle blowing racist self.)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (HksrE)
Posted by: that guy that compliments other's obscure cultural references at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (GTbGH)
heheh, my boss is shutting the doors because it's not worth keeping the business open, anymore.
But Osama is dead.
Woo hoo!
Posted by: long time republican at August 30, 2011 01:48 PM (sqkOB)
@2: "Employment? GDP growth? Stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?
These things are inconsequential."
Fool! Everyone knows that "these" is singular. These things is inconsequential.
Posted by: Barack "Strunk & White Ain't Got Shit On Me" Obama at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor
I'll see you your 13 points, you SCFOAMFOTUS, and I'll raise you my impressive two points
Posted by: Old Geller at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (le5qc)
Electoral is another thing entirely.
Posted by: Barry, your Law Review editor at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (4sQwu)
Go over to Gateway Pundit. There are a number of stories of flash mobs in various cities, as well as attacks on "whites" by "blacks" that the media WILL NOT TOUCH.
There is unrest. The media is just protecting their creation.
Posted by: shibumi at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (z63Tr)
P.S.
LONGBOW BEATS EVERYTHING.
Longbow vs. cruise missile?
For the purposes of this comparison, a rail gun is a type of longbow.
LONGBOW WINS.
Posted by: Entropy at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (KeJbA)
9 Agree re: foreign policy "success."
I suppose we'll have to wait for October 2012's Hollywood opus to discover how Obama personally re-made the strategy and tactics of killing Bin Laden in his own image and how this led to immediate success after years of Dummy Bush's dithering.
In truth, we all know Obama simply let the Bush era manhunt proceed and events fortuitously played out on his watch. I'd entertain the argument that Obama might have been more willing to go into Pakistan than W, but I'd need to see some strong evidence that W wouldn't have seized the same opportunity before I gave it any traction.
Other than that very debatable point, his foreign policy has resulted in no benefits discernable to either the well-informed or casual observers.
Posted by: SocietyIs2Blame at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (yK8YH)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 01:49 PM (ZxiLK)
I really think obvious domestic unrest cancels out everything else. Americans aren't exactly famous for understanding anything about foreign policy or appreciating anything about it.
Lisa Ling's shoving microphones in North Korean faces and asking them on camera to admit their "Dear Leader" can make a mistake sure comes to mind.
Posted by: William at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (dE2JB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: gride at August 30, 2011 05:42 PM (7Iqhu)
Edited for accuracy.
Posted by: CAC at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (vciTG)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 05:47 PM (QxSug)
Heh. Then Perry is a shoo in.......
REX.GROSSMAN.
Posted by: © Sponge at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (UK9cE)
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Are you hoping for Obama to create a scandal?
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (NadeK)
There are 13 keys to victory, he says, and whoever grabs six wins.
That doesn't even work mathmatically.
Posted by: Randy M at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (vI8R6)
Are you kidding?
Killing Osama bin Laden was the best thing ever!
I wouldn't trade it for anything -- a job, affordable heating fuel, $2/gal gas, or even the losses in my 401K.
Posted by: long time republican at August 30, 2011 05:47 PM
Same here! Why, the minute I heard the news, I felt 78.3% safer! (margin of error +/- 156.6%)
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 01:50 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 01:51 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 01:51 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 05:47 PM (QxSug)
not really because they lost in 04 and Bush still won
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 01:51 PM (yAor6)
It's funny how Lichtman completely ignores the emergence of the nationwide grassroots Tea Party movement.
That's not social unrest, professor Lick-man?
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 01:51 PM (sqkOB)
He and his MBM propagandists are on an active campaign to make sure that Gunwalker stays out of the papers, and they have the means to make that so. They're also going full blitz on Perry and any other crowd drawing conservative to get a wet rag squish like Huntsman as an opponent
That said, SCOAMF's supposed charisma has worn out by overexposure and the destruction of the myth and aura. He's now a known commodity and he can't hope to get by just on his personality anymore.
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 01:52 PM (Y+DPZ)
There are 13 keys to victory, he says, and whoever grabs six wins.
That doesn't even work mathmatically.
Posted by: Randy M at August 30, 2011 05:50 PM--------------
Let's see, the Repub grabs six, the Dem grabs six, that leaves -- brb
Posted by: genius pundit of the day at August 30, 2011 01:52 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Dave at August 30, 2011 01:52 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Trevor at August 30, 2011 01:52 PM (aVJFq)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 01:53 PM (14jKX)
What the hell is this supposed to mean?
This means his sycophants refuse to call out his massive failures as a leader.
He's nearly as retarded as those who blindly support him.
Posted by: PunchedLikeaDonkey at August 30, 2011 01:53 PM (HksrE)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 01:53 PM (+61wI)
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 05:33 PM (sqkOB)
Who?
Posted by: Every Other Normal American at August 30, 2011 01:53 PM (Xak0I)
Don't mention Seldon's name unless you want Krugman to get all hot & bothered.
Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (QMtmy)
Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (ZxiLK)
Posted by: Dick Morris at August 30, 2011 05:39 PM (QKKT0)
A fuck me pump, as it were.
Posted by: That girl in the next cubicle at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (u+8qs)
He and his MBM propagandists are on an active campaign to make sure that Gunwalker stays out of the papers
Honestly? I think they don't even know about it yet. I fight with a bunch of lefties at the Politics room of a writing/literary forum and they never heard of it until I told them a day or two ago. One of them ran off to CNN to look it up and came back eye-rolling and saying there's no there there.
They won't know what hit them.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (OhYCU)
he should make his prediction come nextyear at this point HW Bush was FEARED by the left and they thought he would be r-elected in a landslide
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Rick Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 01:54 PM (yAor6)
Posted by: Fucking Hari Seldon at August 30, 2011 01:55 PM (GTbGH)
I wouldn't trade it for anything -- a job, affordable heating fuel, $2/gal gas, or even the losses in my 401K.
Yeah, every time I look at my hungry kids whining for a second glass of milk that I can't afford, I smile to myself and think suck it, bin Laden!!!
Posted by: Another Typical Voter at August 30, 2011 01:55 PM (QKKT0)
I agree. Obama's a shoe-in for re-election. A shoe like saucy little sequined pump with a strappy back and a three-inch heel, say.
Posted by: Dick Morris at August 30, 2011 05:39 PM (QKKT0)
You forgot the most important thing: open-toed
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 01:55 PM (3n2lK)
I actually know Lichtman. Don't worry about it.
we adults here at AosHQ are requested to refrain from negative ( truthful) comments concerning HA.
What?
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2011 01:55 PM (zrSw4)
try this one: Candidate Obama: If Iran gets nukes that's a game changer.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 01:56 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Professor Lickin'aHalfBlackMan at August 30, 2011 01:56 PM (HksrE)
15. Americans discover their President is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?
Posted by: formerly known as cherry pi at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (OhYCU)
Posted by: dagny at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (zrSw4)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (ZxiLK)
No third party candidate? Whaddaya call Ron Paul? Donald Trump?
Wishful thinking is all it is. What an idiot. I'm glad he's not on our side.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (a/SeY)
Hey, I bumped into a hobo at the railyard and he said there was only one point needed to determine outcomes: Is he a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?
I'm going with the hobo.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 30, 2011 01:57 PM (r4t7/)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 01:58 PM (bjRNS)
>>crossbow beats rocks.
>>Only if the rocks aren't fired from orbit.
>>Trebuchet.
Those are all pussy weapons. Try a Beehive round fired from a 105mm howitzer in direct fire mode. Fuck up everybody's medical records for a long, long time GI.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 01:58 PM (+Uv5V)
The Republicans will then nominate John McCain II, I mean, Mitt Romney. End result, Trump splits the vote, Romney fails to excite any voters, and Obama wins.
1992 all over again.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 30, 2011 01:58 PM (i0App)
Posted by: Rex the Wonder God at August 30, 2011 01:58 PM (NHeC0)
Posted by: Cicerokid at August 30, 2011 01:58 PM (7q8S/)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 01:59 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 01:59 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: NfromNC at August 30, 2011 01:59 PM (MbeEN)
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Are you hoping for Obama to create a scandal?
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 05:50 PM
Operation Fast and Furious, chump. No, I never hoped for it; in fact I'm damn mad about all those deaths.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:00 PM (3n2lK)
@68: "Heh. Then Perry is a shoo in.......
REX.GROSSMAN."
I am properly referenced as The Cumslinger.
Posted by: Sexy Rexy at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (xy9wk)
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (ZxiLK)
Oooooh did I miss something? Is donkeydunce the artist f/k/a dum-dum??
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 05:59 P
It appeared last night. Palin Steele? Someone new? Whatevs, it's the same old b.s.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (3n2lK)
Just a note on common sense: subjective criteria is never wrong, you just have to wait and find out how the subjectives score the test. Most of his criteria is subjective. Subjective criteria example: If the economy sucks and a racist scold with the maturity of 13 year old is presendentin, what are his chances for re-election? See, you could add this as the 14th Key.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (0M3AQ)
That's not really a scandal.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 02:01 PM (NadeK)
gotta go for a bit
But just remember this: Obama promised to "halve" the budget deficit by the end of his term.
I'm not sure but I think it has tripled. But Obama still has a another year to keep his promise. Heh.
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 02:02 PM (sqkOB)
Oooooh did I miss something? Is donkeydunce the artist f/k/a dum-dum??
I renamed him: Schlappschwanz
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2011 02:02 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:02 PM (14jKX)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 02:02 PM (OW0nw)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 02:03 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Dave at August 30, 2011 02:03 PM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 02:03 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Yojimbo at August 30, 2011 02:03 PM (akKXh)
Obama's many many lofty unfulfilled promises from 2008 will hurt him more than the GOP candidate in 2012.
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 02:04 PM (sqkOB)
Posted by: notion at August 30, 2011 02:04 PM (MwTP4)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 02:04 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 06:01 PM (TMB3S)"
That's a good observation. I also note that on many blogs where I'd see an occasional democrat spar with conservatives, the democrats have vanished almost entirely.
As have 99% of the lefty trolls. All that's left is the occasional troll, and they are usually way too drastic and over the top. Their heart isn't in it.
The left doesn't really have the stomach to take up for Obama.
Though I am sure they will be fueled by hatred for whoever the GOP nominates.
Posted by: Dustin at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (fF625)
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (q177U)
Those are all pussy weapons. Try a Beehive round fired from a 105mm howitzer in direct fire mode. Fuck up everybody's medical records for a long, long time GI.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 05:58 PM (+Uv5V)
Truly. My dad said he saw guys basically nailed up to trees by the flechettes in 'Nam.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (4nbyM)
More like hoping that the SCoaMF's smacktarded and illegal decisions stack up and start stinking so much that even the unicorn-fuckers in the MFM can't ignore all the scandals he already has.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: snowcrash at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (T/g1q)
That's not really a scandal.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:01 PM
And now I'm leaning troll-impersonator ala Average Joe.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: jpintx at August 30, 2011 02:05 PM (hYSSS)
Lichtman developed his 13 Keys in 1981. They test the performance of the party that holds the presidency. If six or more of the 13 keys go against the party in power, then the opposing party wins.“The keys have figured into popular politics a bit,” Lichtman says. “They’ve never missed. They’ve been right seven elections in a row. A number that goes way beyond statistical significance in a record no other system even comes close to.”
Anyone study statistics?
How can you call something statistically significant and draw any big conclusions when your sample size is essentially seven?
I could be full of it but that smells, doesn't it? Minimum sample size is 3. Confidence is at best in the 70% with a sample size of 3. However, that assumes objective measures - his are not objective.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 02:06 PM (0M3AQ)
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 30, 2011 02:06 PM (lH6z9)
Posted by: Dave at August 30, 2011 02:06 PM (Xm1aB)
I haven't read the comments, but has anyone told this guy that 6 is less than 50% of 13?
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 06:04 PM
Heh, yup. gmta
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:07 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 02:07 PM (mLUZH)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:07 PM (14jKX)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 02:07 PM (QxSug)
No, you can do stats on that small of a sample.
The thing is, though, that his criteria are so subjective, and there are so many other ways to predict who wins elections (such as polls), that unless he's been living in an underground dome for the past thirty years, I have no confidence in how he has been scoring the candidates.
Saying someone has no major scandals. What makes it major? The effect on your polls, of course!
So it's bullshit.
Quantifying subjective criteria does not make the analysis objective!
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (5H6zj)
Egad, you're a twit.
Posted by: Slublog at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (xdyuk)
Posted by: lu at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (pLTLS)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: Perfesser Lickme at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (u+8qs)
As have 99% of the lefty trolls. All that's left is the occasional troll, and they are usually way too drastic and over the top. Their heart isn't in it.
And after you challenge them for a bit, all they have left is.......but, but he killed bin Laden
It's even starting on all of the talk shows now, when they have nothing left those lefty pundits start screaming bin Laden
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:08 PM (14jKX)
"No major foreign-policy failures" -- This one's debatable.
Honduras, Iran, Egypt, Libya, for starters. Lichtman is wishcasting and sounds like he is trying to prevent a democrat primary challenge, not predict the general.
Posted by: Christine O'Donnell is tanned, rested, and ready at August 30, 2011 05:48 PM (0N5pL)
Don't forget Venezuela and our BFF Hugo.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 30, 2011 02:09 PM (Hx5uv)
Nice retort. But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 02:09 PM (NadeK)
It has dum-dum's tells, and the stink of failure, but mostly, the stink.
Posted by: toby928™ at August 30, 2011 02:09 PM (GTbGH)
All Obama's government-financial terrors are an electoral wash. Half of Americans would say Palin did 'em, if you put her name in the poll.
Oddly, he is a precognitive psychic on seeing the future and knowing that Obama will not see Gunwalker blossom into a major scandal, and that Obama's opponent will have low charisma.
Oblig.trade has "no NPR-in-the-car/CNN-at-the-airport/Newsweek-at-the-dentist rube will ever know what Gunwalker is (except a 'racist right-wing conspiracy smear')" by 80, and "charisma is a media-chorus effect that Republicans don't have access to" by...all the points.
Posted by: oblig. at August 30, 2011 02:09 PM (xvZW9)
My dad is Mr. Middle America. He has voted for every presidential winner since 1980. He leans conservative, but obviously isn't much of a partisan.
His stance on Obama right now? "Fuck him, I was an idiot for voting for him."
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (HksrE)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (TMB3S)
It is my first 49th birthday. I went out and bought myself a rocking new dress to celebrate. Very snug in the right places.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (5H6zj)
1. No contested primary -- just 15 million elephants in the room screaming HILL-AH-REE! HILL-AH-REE!
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:10 PM (3n2lK)
I wouldnt dismiss Lichtman out of hand. Nobody except for us wingnuts, who visit the usual blogs, knows about Gunrunner and F&F. If you asked people on the street they would think you were talking about a bad movie. And keep in mind that Clintons scandals didnt caught up with him until after his reelection, actually in the middle of his second term, despite the fact that words like "whitewater" and "Paula Jones" were already known when he came into the White House '93.
Its similar with Obamas foreign policy. He steps into it everywhere, its a bunch of little catastrophes, but the media report it very selectively. We dont hear much about Egypt anymore, because its getting ugly there and the media shift attention to Lybia where they can sell it as a lil victory for Obama. Or have we heard something about Iran from the (liberal) big players in the news-media lately?
Obama can still win 2012 and we should keep in mind that while he is a scoamf, campaigning is the only thing that he is actually good at.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at August 30, 2011 02:11 PM (CC3z6)
That's not social unrest, professor Lick-man?
Or, if you like your social unrest violent, how about them Wisconsin union thugs?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 30, 2011 02:11 PM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 02:11 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:11 PM (14jKX)
Did I say twit? Must have spelled that wrong.
What I meant to say was sub-literate assclown of a fanboy loser.
Posted by: Slublog at August 30, 2011 02:11 PM (xdyuk)
Q: What do you call someone who voted for Obama in 2008, but refuses to vote for him in 2012>
A: Racist!
(Get it? If you oppose Obama you're a racist, no matter what. Even if you voted for him before.)
Posted by: Janeane's turkey baster at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:09 PM (NadeK)
He almost acts straight enough to be the father.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Maxmbj at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (deaac)
A major key to victory.
Unremitting, unquestioning, unwaivering, unequivocal, unyielding, unrelenting, and unending support from the Main Stream Media.
(notice the Chicago Serial Oxford comma?)
Posted by: Mister Money at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (wN82N)
I am sure there are fellow travelers in academia willing to float them on the internet for the peoples cause.
Not to bitch, but who, exactly, has stepped up to the podium and said they went to class with the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure? Who's said they dated him? Hell, somebody must've shared a joint with him in kollidge, right? His drug dealer, mayhaps?
How about all those radicals he said he hung around with so he wouldn't look like a sellout? Shouldn't they be proudly announcing their allegiance and friendship to Litte Lord SCoaMF?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (d0Tfm)
Nice retort. But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:09 PM
Nice try at changing the subject. In fact, the perfect dad spends every weekend golfing and he's fucking up his daughters' future.
The perfect husband, really? Does he sleep on the wet spot?
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:12 PM (3n2lK)
Moving the goal posts, check!
btw, what did you think of the Captain America movie? I thought it was pretty decent.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (c0A3e)
I seem to remember hearing about unrest in Chicago near the lake shore over the summer.
Posted by: Rip VanBullwinkle at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (L0Pac)
167 Egad, you're a twit.
Nice retort. But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
This might be the ultimate scandal - gay man love on the down low. Nobody respects a Mac Daddy who tosses salads.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (0M3AQ)
But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
Because great Dads always spend their birthday celebrating, alone, with their manservants.
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (HksrE)
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Well, maybe he's a good dad, but with that scowl Michelle walks around with all the time, there ain't no way he's doing his husbandly duties properly IYKWIM.
Posted by: Y-not usually has a smile on her face at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (5H6zj)
Nice retort. But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:09 PM (NadeK)
How the hell is he the "perfect dad"? He spends every spare moment on the golf course. My husband loves golf, but spent time as our son's Scout leader, helped teach Sunday School, took him fishing, etc. He would never have spent the amount of time whacking a little white ball the way Barky has.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 02:13 PM (UOM48)
Posted by: ace at August 30, 2011 02:14 PM (nj1bB)
Oh yes, I'm sure his girls are just thrilled when he tells the world they got a C or complains that one of them is getting chubby. Father of the year material right there. Why, he evem manages to get Michelle to not scowl at him 8% of the time. He is the picture perfect family man.
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 02:14 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: A440Hz at August 30, 2011 02:14 PM (QxhpV)
Posted by: Maxmbj at August 30, 2011 02:14 PM (deaac)
You know what Lt. Col. Frank Slade would advise.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:15 PM (4CSeG)
What the hell is this supposed to mean? Are you hoping for Obama to create a scandal?
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 05:50 PM
It means what he said it means. Even though you've found a new name, you're still dum-dum to us.
palin steele, if you've got problem listening, don't play in the rain when the news says a storm is coming
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 02:15 PM (Y+DPZ)
In truth, we all know Obama simply let the Bush era manhunt proceed and events fortuitously played out on his watch. I'd entertain the argument that Obama might have been more willing to go into Pakistan than W, but I'd need to see some strong evidence that W wouldn't have seized the same opportunity before I gave it any traction.
Just like when the Berlin Wall came down on Bush 41's watch but we all know who swung the hammer.
Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 30, 2011 02:15 PM (lH6z9)
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 30, 2011 02:16 PM (0OJd9)
Well, if the repub nominee (Perry) doesn't make a big deal of the economy, the foreign policy flubs, and the F & F scandal, then that would be his fault.
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 02:16 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:16 PM (4CSeG)
No. That would be Paul Ryan and Chris Christie whose duty to family supersede their personal ambitions.
Obama essentially abandoned his family for two years to pursue his ambition; leaving his two young children to essentially be raised by their grandmother.
Posted by: Janeane's turkey baster at August 30, 2011 02:16 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 02:17 PM (QxSug)
Considering that those two freeloaders can't even stand to be on the same plane, nice marriage. And as for Dad? I have my own suspicions about that. Just look at a picture of Jesse Jackson Jr. and look at Sasha Obama. Ahem
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2011 02:17 PM (H/MnC)
Well, maybe he's a good dad, but with that scowl Michelle walks around with all the time, there ain't no way he's doing his husbandly duties properly IYKWIM.
I'd imagine it's hard to be content when your penis is bigger than your husband's.
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 02:17 PM (HksrE)
My dad is Mr. Middle America. He has voted for every presidential winner since 1980. He leans conservative, but obviously isn't much of a partisan.
His stance on Obama right now? "Fuck him, I was an idiot for voting for him."
Thank you Lauren. Your admission must be embarrassing but its accuracy is perfect. I have neighbors whose body language tells the same tale but their hubris prevents them from admitting the mistake. Crushing landslide in the making.
Posted by: Sub-Tard at August 30, 2011 02:17 PM (0M3AQ)
Hey, congrats, Y-not!
Garcón! *Snap* Your finest five-gallon gasoline can of Valu-Rite to that table with my compliments.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 02:17 PM (d0Tfm)
That's not really a scandal.
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:01 PM
No, the scandal is that for all the taxpayer dollars spent on your education, you're still dumber than a pile of hair
That's why you'll always be dum-dum to us
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 02:18 PM (Y+DPZ)
But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad.
Really? Don't give it much thought, but I would suspect his is as detached from his family as he is from his job. Maybe I'm not a conservative.
Which daughter could he not remember her age?
Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2011 02:18 PM (3SvjA)
Posted by: observer at August 30, 2011 02:19 PM (KVUlI)
Had his daughters baptized in and raised in Rev. Wright's "church."
That right there is child cruelty/neglect.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 30, 2011 02:19 PM (UOM48)
Q: What do you call someone who voted for Obama in 2008, but refuses to vote for him in 2012?
A: Racist! A majority. ( If we all get off our asses.)
Posted by: Doorbell ringing in 2012 at August 30, 2011 02:20 PM (u+8qs)
Yeah, could be.
Now don't jump all over me for saying this, but I think we need to make it as easy as possible for them to do the right thing. Let's not rub their noses in it -- until after the election results are certified.
I think our nominee should stick to business and try to avoid getting personal with Obama. And even his (or her) surrogates should try to keep the attacks about policy and results as much as possible.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:20 PM (5H6zj)
But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad
he doesn't give his daughters x-mas presents, I'll take another Dad if I was them
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:20 PM (3XDPM)
Wow...so did I.
To be honest, though...I thought W would win the popular vote
...but I still fucking got it right..thank you SCOTUS
Posted by: beedubya at August 30, 2011 02:21 PM (AnTyA)
Apparently, Kloppenberg isn't the only lib who is unable to think about what will constitute a win and what will constitute a loss, in the future ... they need, much like chimpanzees, to be shown current data ...
Posted by: Arbalest at August 30, 2011 02:21 PM (x5Kr2)
And now I'm leaning troll-impersonator ala Average Joe.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 06:05 PM (3n2lK)
Nah, Definitely the "woman" fellater.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 02:22 PM (86JC8)
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 02:22 PM (4nfy2)
he doesn't give his daughters x-mas presents, I'll take another Dad if I was them
Muslims don't give their kids Christmas presents either. For obvious reason. Makes you kind of wonder.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 02:22 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: settman at August 30, 2011 02:22 PM (jeLTI)
Posted by: Shawn, but not lower-cased shawn at August 30, 2011 02:23 PM (D9Yhc)
Posted by: Barky O'Genius, Father of the Year at August 30, 2011 02:23 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:23 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 02:23 PM (Y+DPZ)
how new is this "prouddonkey"?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:23 PM (3XDPM)
But ... but ... stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure!
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:24 PM (bjRNS)
That's a weird comment. It's so random. It's important to leave Obama's kids out of our political talks. The right has done much better about this than the left did with Bush's family or Palin's or really any republican family.. That's not an admission that Obama's family is perfect. We just don't care about that. But for the record, anyone putting their family through a presidential election or lifestyle is being kinda selfish. Obama's kids will never know a normal life. They will always be elites, and probably politicians too, but it's sad. I'd wait until they were adults before running myself, but then, I would never make it in politics since I have a soul.
Posted by: Dustin at August 30, 2011 02:24 PM (fF625)
Obama has fathered two legitimate children. How many points for that?
One looks suspiciously like Glen 'Big Baby' Davis.
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 02:24 PM (HksrE)
I have neighbors whose body language tells the same tale but their hubris prevents them from admitting the mistake.
They can spill their conscience in the comforting anonymity of the voting booth.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:25 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: mpfs, TPT at August 30, 2011 02:25 PM (iYbLN)
All I need is a meat thermometer stuck in my eye and this day will be complete.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 02:25 PM (4CSeG)
Because it's personal, he is a liberal JEW. How many times can one be shamed by their group?
Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (cdCC7)
For a long while there, Ace would finish posts with the line,
"Thanks to Allah."
I laughed at that a lot, knowing some wouldn't understand. Also, I imagined them thinking "peace be unto him" would be more appropriate.
Posted by: rdbrewer at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (SleRV)
Crushing landslide in the making.
That's what I'm hoping. My dad's rationale for voting for Obama was that he was a bit pissed at Bush's last few years and thought "what the hell, let's give the First Black Presidenttm a shot. "
Obviously I have no way to prove it, but I have a feeling that a lot of people felt the same way, and are no ready to say that they gave Obama a chance, but he was a SCoaMF.
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (VKD8C)
The ones on the front or on the back?
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (14jKX)
Oh my, this reminds me of a scoring system they used in the MD prison system where my dad worked before retiring. He was working in a program that was trying to rehabilitate really serious offenders -- rapists, murders, real scum. To qualify for the program the guys had to have X number of "successes" in their lives: GEDs, high school diplomas, (formerly held) steady jobs, and, iirc, stable relationships. I don't remember if fathering legitimate kids was one of the "successes" but it sure could have been!
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (5H6zj)
I noticed that there was a recommendation for carpooling (3 person minimum) because of the parking. Do we have a thread for coordinating that?
(No commitment from me, yet -- I'm getting a tooth yanked later this week, so probably won't be able to get away from work next week, sadly.)
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:26 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 02:27 PM (TMB3S)
He'd better watch it then, lest he is apt to appear on a future episode of a 1000 Ways to Die.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 30, 2011 02:27 PM (c0A3e)
Well, money gifts aren't everything. My dad used to leave $20 on my mom's night table, and he wouldn't come back till the next weekend.
He always looked different for some reason too.
Posted by: proudonkey, AKA palin steele but always dum-dum to us at August 30, 2011 02:27 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: AndrewsDad at August 30, 2011 02:27 PM (C2//T)
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 30, 2011 02:28 PM (8kT0g)
Posted by: hughie at August 30, 2011 02:28 PM (+56Bh)
Anyone study statistics?
How can you call something statistically significant and draw any big conclusions when your sample size is essentially seven?
I work in a field where I deal with this issue. You need a minimum sample size of 30 to determine statistically significant differences. Of course it is possible to perform calculations on smaller sample sizes, but they are subject to such great variability that you can't determine statistical significance.
Posted by: Mayday at August 30, 2011 02:29 PM (TRgli)
I haven't read through all the comments yet, but I think one thing that wasn't listed is the whole class war issue. Never have I seen a president and congressional leaders make absolute enemies of at least half of the voting bloc in this country. Probably more than half if it's true that conservatives outnumber liberals.
Maybe it should be listed as "Public Unity" or something. Or maybe it would be under Social Unrest. Regardless, I have never before been pushed to the point of openly disliking people simply because they are liberal. Thanks to teh SCOAMF and Pelosi and Reid, et al, I am at that point.
When Joe Bite-me and Dem leaders called the Tea Party terrorists, that was the last straw for me.
Liberals can go fuck themselves.
Posted by: Marmo at August 30, 2011 02:29 PM (Tm9Vp)
Man, can you imagine what will happen to us Morons if we DO lose in 2012? It's going to be all food insurance/gardens/gold storage/ammo tips all the time around here.
Well, Ace will continue to see bad movies and then post 2000+ words on them. But otherwise.
Posted by: William at August 30, 2011 02:29 PM (dE2JB)
But Obama still has a another year to keep his promise.
Just cough up your entire life savings, including anything you've got hiding under your mattress and sign your house and life insurance over to the govt.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2011 02:30 PM (a/SeY)
I saw on one of the otehr threads that baldilocks read the post. You might check over at her blog and see if she's going.
I think Mr Y-not might be alarmed if I drove from Orem to the OC next week, so I can't go! :-)
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:30 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2011 02:30 PM (FcR7P)
Truly. My dad said he saw guys basically nailed up to trees by the flechettes in 'Nam.
Posted by: Reactionary at August 30, 2011 06:05 PM (4nbyM)
It's all a part of the Army's "Basic Carpentry Techniques" course at Ft. Sill.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 02:30 PM (qOTYB)
can you give us a "cite" or a "link"on that one proudHonkey
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at August 30, 2011 02:31 PM (UrPTC)
I think we need to make it as easy as possible for them to do the right thing. Let's not rub their noses in it -- until after the election results are certified.
Hmmm, good point.
But afterwards we can shove our shrunken 401ks and skinny bank accounts in their faces and call them fucking naive suckers who were responsible for putting the biggest stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure in office ever, right?
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:31 PM (3n2lK)
So I am too early then?
Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 02:32 PM (4nfy2)
how new is this "prouddonkey"?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 06:23 PM (3XDPM)
He's not. Its Palin Steele/DonkeyHotay/Cain's Pizzeria. Known to al as dum dum
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 02:32 PM (86JC8)
I think one thing that wasn't listed is the whole class war issue.
This is a + for liberals and a ? for the 52%.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:33 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 06:32 PM (86JC
how do we know this? I never knew he returned, is he still mocking commenters' miscarriages and making racist comments?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:33 PM (3XDPM)
The sad thing is I know the exact place where he's holding the meet-n-greet. My wife's grandparents shop there.
The timing just stinks, though. Besides my dental fun, the wife's got a booth at a SF con that weekend, and I'll need to help out there, too.
Now I'll shut up, 'cause I'm turning into That Guy.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:33 PM (bjRNS)
Oh, absolutely.
I have one relative, an elderly godmother, who is a New England lib... but who did actually vote for Scott Brown, fwiw. She's clearly casting about looking for an alternative to Obama. She was asking about Huntsman a few months ago, but I tried to steer her clear of him.
My dad and I were talking about her and trying to figure out how to steer her to a viable Republican. I'm not sure if she'll go for Perry, but I'm going to give it a go.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:33 PM (5H6zj)
Ya know who else was an almost perfect husband/dad? Jimmy Carter. He even asked his daughter for advice on nuclear weapons.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 06:27 PM
Apparently he followed it, too.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:34 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 06:33 PM (5H6zj)
my self-loathing conservative brother who was a Romney guy is becoming a Perry guy, I'M STUNNED. I still don't understand as my bro was anti-Perry before he jumped in.
my gf is all in on Perry, she found Romney robotic and creepy.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:36 PM (3XDPM)
Posted by: izoneguy at August 30, 2011 02:37 PM (i6Neb)
Posted by: t-bird at August 30, 2011 02:37 PM (FcR7P)
2. Incumbency = Dud duh
3. No third-party candidate = We'll see
4. Major domestic-policy changes in his first term = Yes, the one that polls at 38%, 33% of independents
5. No social unrest = Coming to a Liberty Square near him
6. No major scandals = Resignations of the head of the ATF and the US Atty in AZ?
7. No major foreign-policy failures = Wait for it. Arab Spring will be Jihad Summer next year
8. Major foreign-policy achievements in his first term (killing Bin Laden) = Europe implodes, Libya goes the way of Egypt, and he continues to bow at the feet of China
Much of this can be covered-up by media cheerleaders, but the cheerleaders only further discredit themselves.
Posted by: Cooter at August 30, 2011 02:38 PM (h2/5o)
how do we know this? I never knew he returned, is he still mocking commenters' miscarriages and making racist comments?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 06:33 PM (3XDPM)
His writing style is pretty obvious and consistent. He's got various statements that really give him away, like a comment he made in DrewM's thread yesterday that was classic dum dum idiocy.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 02:38 PM (86JC8)
2. Incumbency
I'm kinda slow but don't nos. 1 and 2 kind of go together. If you have the incumbency doesn't that by definition mean you don't get no. 1. Maybe there's an example in the past of a sitting incumbent being challenged but I don't remember. Otherwise this seems like stacking the deck a little. or am I missing something?
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 02:38 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: mugiwara at August 30, 2011 02:38 PM (KI/Ch)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 30, 2011 02:39 PM (eMPxE)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 30, 2011 02:39 PM (TMB3S)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 02:40 PM (P4jkT)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 02:40 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 02:40 PM (14jKX)
He's not. Its Palin Steele/DonkeyHotay/Cain's Pizzeria. Known to al as dum dum
Did he ever go to that job fair?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 30, 2011 02:40 PM (3AuGS)
Jimmy Carter.
That was the year my mom registered Democrat just so she could vote against Teddy Kennedy.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:41 PM (bjRNS)
how new is this "prouddonkey"?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 06:23 PM
He's not. Its Palin Steele/DonkeyHotay/Cain's Pizzeria. Known to al as dum dum
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 06:32 PMJust call it dum-dum. The reason why will become apparent soon enough.
Some history;
58 Can I ask everyone a favor? Please?
Can everyone call Palin Steele only either "Dummy" or "Dum-Dum" from now on?
Say it respectfully, as if it's a genuine name. But always Dummy or Dum-Dum.
Please. I want this. For *me.*Posted by: ace at July 30, 2009 01:07 AM
Posted by: proudonkey, AKA palin steele but always dum-dum to us at August 30, 2011 02:42 PM (Y+DPZ)
"I'm not sure if she'll go for Perry, but I'm going to give it a go." [~ Y-not]
Rick Perry is hotter than Scott Brown..... Has she ever watched any of his speeches?
That's the thing. So many people have not really even seen Rick Perry in action yet, giving one of his great speeches. And he's already leading in the polls with conservatives who have heard of him.
Perry gave a great speech at the VFW convention yesterday.... But it's like it didn't even happen. It has been largely ignored by the media (even Fox), and even the big conservative blogs are ignoring it.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 30, 2011 02:42 PM (8kT0g)
>>Maybe there's an example in the past of a sitting incumbent being challenged but I don't remember. Otherwise this seems like stacking the deck a little. or am I missing something?
not only that but an incumbent has even been kicked out as a President in a primary:
Cleveland, Pierce, and Wilson all lost primary bids as President but to be fair Cleveland and Wilson weren't too serious as they were aiming for a 3rd term. LBJ was also primaried in 1968 but he dropped out before it could go on. FDR was primaried in 1940 by his own VP! and of course there was Taft, Ford, Carter, and HW Bush
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:42 PM (3XDPM)
Posted by: kbdabear at August 30, 2011 02:42 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: mojo at August 30, 2011 02:44 PM (sTyWw)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 06:40 PM (P4jkT)
Michelle Malkin and AllahPundit, the 2 righty bloggers I despise the most
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:45 PM (3XDPM)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 06:42 PM (3XDPM)
oh I forgot Benjamin Harrison and Lincoln himself had a primary challenge
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:46 PM (3XDPM)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 02:46 PM (+Uv5V)
Posted by: Miikeb at August 30, 2011 02:46 PM (zvsJ6)
Michelle Malkin and AllahPundit, the 2 righty bloggers I despise the most
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 06:45 PMHey, I'm supposed to be the top bitch!
Posted by: Pamela's Bra Clasp at August 30, 2011 02:47 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Greg at August 30, 2011 02:47 PM (ohd8M)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 30, 2011 06:40 PM (P4jkT)
Mostly they come out to whine & screech about Palin-- mostly
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 30, 2011 02:48 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Pamela's Bra Clasp at August 30, 2011 06:47 PM (Y+DPZ)
well Gellar is getting up there
if I said my least fav righty talk radio guys heads would explode so I'm keeping quiet on that one
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (3XDPM)
He is toast. Perry is the next president. We get one or two more supreme court justices.
Jump on the bandwagon people! We can make America great again!
Posted by: Cooter at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (h2/5o)
Reminds me of that scene in Casablanca:
Lorre: You despise me, don't you?
Bogart: I might, if I gave it any thought.
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (bjRNS)
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 30, 2011 06:48 PM (UqKQV)
don't forget the bible verses battles
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (3XDPM)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (d0Tfm)
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I doubt it.
I haven't started working her yet.
His vulnerability as far as she's concerned is going to be the "anti education, anti science" smear. She's the widow of an academic (my godfather, a former dean), she is an continuing lecturer at a university (doing good work, actually, helping teach English as a second language), and she's got the whole upper crust (by my family's standards, most of whom are pretty modestly off financially, no old money) Catholic New Englander thing going.
So that fact that he is from the South, Evangelical (?), and being slammed as being anti-intellectual/anti-education will be what gets her the most.
But the ace in the hole is that I've got the academic credentials thing locked up. So if I sit and explain to her how I, a scientist/academic type, can back Perry, she might listen.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 02:49 PM (5H6zj)
This is not the same ol', same ol'.
Posted by: As If! at August 30, 2011 02:51 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 30, 2011 02:51 PM (eMPxE)
That's an odd thing to say. (So odd I'm not sure we aren't being had.)
I really haven't spent any time worrying about what kind of husband or dad he is. Hopefully a good one. (He's got to be good at something, right?) His kids always seem happy and good-natured.
In fact, he's probably such a good husband and dad, I think he should do it full-time. Vote Republican... do it for Michelle and the kids.
Posted by: sandy burger at August 30, 2011 02:52 PM (eBOHR)
Posted by: Christopher Taylor at August 30, 2011 02:54 PM (r4wIV)
why didn't Hillary go to China?Isn't that her job as secretary of state?
I imagine she's asking the same questions, but she's probably just as glad she doesn't have to stick her neck out for the SCoaMF.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:54 PM (3n2lK)
"Little charisma by his likely opponent"?!
The teleprompter has more charisma than this stuttering dumbfuck.
Christ Almighty.
He's only considered charismatic because he has sychophants slavering over him in the media.
Posted by: soulpile is... at August 30, 2011 02:55 PM (Mk/IQ)
Yeah, that's just weird. (And wasn't Huntsman ambassador to China before?) What's Clinton been up to lately, anyway?
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 02:55 PM (bjRNS)
KOB Eyewitness News 4 has obtained surveillance pictures of a State Police officer having sex with a woman on the hood of a car in broad daylight.
State Police aren't saying anything about the photos, but KOB Eyewitness News 4 is pressing for answers.
Two weeks ago KOB reported a story about an officer caught on camera having sex while in full uniform, an act shown on security camera at the Santa Fe Canyon Ranch.
KOB has blurred out the woman's image, but you can see it's during daylight hours and the officer is still wearing his utility belt.
We got reaction from people who saw the photos.
"It's an inappropriate use of time," said Cate Campbell of Albuquerque.
"Inappropriate use of our tax money, I mean we pay these guys," added Jacob Powers.
A inappropriate use of time?, I don't know, maybe.Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 30, 2011 02:55 PM (4nfy2)
Posted by: sifty with his Carnac Hat on at August 30, 2011 02:55 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 02:56 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 02:57 PM (VKD8C)
That's not too far a leap. Scott Brown is creepy. Yet, even given that, Perry (as someone said here a couple of weeks ago) has to be careful not to look like a used-car salesman.
Posted by: As If! at August 30, 2011 02:57 PM (piMMO)
Several popular fitness websites advocate some form of aerobic exercise during lunch breaks instead of eating.
Posted by: sifty with his Carnac Hat on at August 30, 2011 02:57 PM (4CSeG)
What's Clinton been up to lately, anyway?
Posted by: Meiczyslaw at August 30, 2011 06:55 PM
Growing her hair out.
She's getting started now on her 2016 makeover.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 02:57 PM (3n2lK)
1. No contested primary
2. Incumbency
3. No third-party candidate
4. Major domestic-policy changes in his first term
5. No social unrest
6. No major scandals
7. No major foreign-policy failures
8. Major foreign-policy achievements in his first term (killing Bin Laden)
9. Little charisma by his likely opponent
10. HeÂ’s a fucking arrogant prick who is living high on the hog while the countryÂ’s economy burns because of his policies, and everyone, even the stupid fucks who voted for him last time, know it. How does that calculate into this analysis?
Posted by: Sharkman at August 30, 2011 02:58 PM (wMsKw)
Shit.
Now we have her to look forward to. Again.
Posted by: As If! at August 30, 2011 02:58 PM (piMMO)
I know there are liberals who think that forced abortion is no big deal, but that type of policy tends to not go over well with the average American in the fly over zone.
Posted by: nerdygirl at August 30, 2011 06:51 PM (eMPxE)
Excellent observation. I've always contended that Dick being the 2012 nominee is not a sure thing.
The only thing getting in the dems way is that if they primary the SCOAMF, won't they be putting themselves in the position of being considered racist and losing the black vote?
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 02:59 PM (qOTYB)
heh. ObamaGirl
We can only hope the bitch had the same luck with Hopenchange as everybody else. She probably lives in a cardboard box under the overpass and steals aluminum from construction sites to buy meth.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 03:00 PM (4CSeG)
" But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad."
Taking them on expensive vacations paid for with my taxes. No points.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2011 03:01 PM (a/SeY)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:02 PM (d0Tfm)
The only thing getting in the dems way is that if they primary the SCOAMF, won't they be putting themselves in the position of being considered racist and losing the black vote?
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 06:59 PMI bolted a couple shots of tequila the other week and watched Markos Meatballs on Keith Olbermann's new Countdown, and they flat-out declared that there can be no primary of the first Black president.
Operation F&F complicates everything, though. Hillary will be hard-pressed to escape its taint, since there is evidence of State Department complicity. Will Mama Rat jump ship before it goes down?
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:03 PM (3n2lK)
"But the ace in the hole is that I've got the academic credentials thing locked up. So if I sit and explain to her how I, a scientist/academic type, can back Perry, she might listen." [~ Y-not]
Sounds like you've got your work cut out for you there. Good luck. One of the good things that Perry said today on Hannity, was something about how 'Wisdom cannot be taught by books'...I wish I could remember it exactly. That might be of some help to you.
Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at August 30, 2011 03:03 PM (8kT0g)
" But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad."
Taking them on expensive vacations paid for with my taxes. No points.
Posted by: katya, the designated driver at August 30, 2011 07:01 PM (a/SeY)
We are talking about the man who called his children burdens, right? Whose wife calls her children fat?
So, what? They seem ti get along. Good for them. And I mean that. Even if you have a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure for a father doesn't mean you should have a stuttering clusterfuck of a father.
Posted by: soulpile is... at August 30, 2011 03:04 PM (Mk/IQ)
I don't think anybody wants to hang their hat on the marriage fidelity (or parenting skills) of a politician. Remember when John Edwards was the dutiful awesome husband?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 03:04 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: jewells45, tea party terrorist at August 30, 2011 03:04 PM (Z71Vg)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 03:06 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:07 PM (d0Tfm)
dammit. Can't type today. Slow cursor in the comment box.
So, what? They seem to get along.
I had another thought in that "so, what" but have forgotten it. The rest stands.
Posted by: soulpile is... at August 30, 2011 03:07 PM (Mk/IQ)
Posted by: cp4three2 at August 30, 2011 03:08 PM (V6XjS)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 03:09 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:09 PM (niZvt)
The article is little more than a 'rah rah' piece for the crack smoking lefties who are beginning to get nervous that the Boy King isn't looking all that hot these days.
AP is notorious for posting bull-crap polls to:
1. Tweak the Palinistas.
2. Tout Romney
3. Tweak 'believers'.
4. Tweak conservatives in general.
5. Drag the Paulbots out of the wood work.
6. Drive up the 'hit-count' at Hot Air.
This steaming pile of an article/poll falls more into the #6 category, with an additional hope that the usual lefty trolls that lurk at HA will come out and get into a poo-flinging match with the regulars who post comments there.
BTW, I cross-posted the earlier (MI) piece over there to mix things up a bit.
Besides, who in their right mind thinks Lichtman even remotely believes in the substance of what he wrote?
All things considered, this is a serious 'non-event'.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised you're wasting 'brain-bandwidth' even thinking about it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at August 30, 2011 03:10 PM (1GunI)
Posted by: city gal at August 30, 2011 03:11 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:11 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 07:06 PM (i6RpT)
Many of the people who'll vote for the SCOAMF won't give a shit. Most of them don't know how to spell "Iran" let alone know where it is or what it means.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:11 PM (qOTYB)
O/T: Sorry to go off topic.
What!? It's a mere 352 posts into this topic. Is nothing sacred?
(and I suppose you haven't read the whole thread yet, either, slacker)
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:13 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 03:13 PM (vG00k)
Posted by: Johnny (John E.) at August 30, 2011 03:13 PM (nRTou)
Posted by: Typical Leftist at August 30, 2011 03:13 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: city gal at August 30, 2011 07:11 PM (k1rwm)
Have you ever been on topic?
Posted by: Ma Bell at August 30, 2011 03:14 PM (H/MnC)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 03:14 PM (vG00k)
Happy Birthday Y-not!
Posted by: ontherocks at August 30, 2011 03:15 PM (HBqDo)
Posted by: Typical Leftist at August 30, 2011 07:13 PM
Yes, Americans think they own the whole periodic table of elements. Share the plutonium!
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:15 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:15 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 07:14 PM (vG00k)
The man in the black pajamas. A worthy adversary.
Posted by: Walter Sobchak at August 30, 2011 03:15 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:15 PM (QxSug)
Krauthammer just pointed out that Obama is super-duper smart.
Posted by: sifty at August 30, 2011 07:14 PM
Here's something funny: I'm watching MSNBC, and Howard Fineman and Eugene Robinson aren't so sure.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:16 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:17 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 07:14 PM (vG00k)
The Vietnam vets here have been closely monitering you.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:17 PM (qOTYB)
They must have applications for jobs submitted at Fox.
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:17 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2011 03:17 PM (YhI7X)
Quite frankly, I'm surprised you're wasting 'brain-bandwidth' even thinking about it.
It's well worthy of derision and laughter. Plus, I'm having a blast.
14. Respects the Supreme Court.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:18 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Call Me Ishmael at August 30, 2011 03:18 PM (+g/Xl)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:18 PM (4CSeG)
Historically, the second is more reliable.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:19 PM (jx2j9)
They must have applications for jobs submitted at Fox.
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 07:17 PM
Or at Hillary's 2016 campaign.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:19 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:20 PM (4CSeG)
PIVOT
Time Travel.
and...
parenting.
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 07:15 PM (QxSug)
Don't forget - styrofoam Greek columns.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:20 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:21 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 03:21 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:21 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:21 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:22 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:22 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 03:23 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Eugene Robinson at August 30, 2011 03:24 PM (KXJjY)
Posted by: Marmo at August 30, 2011 03:24 PM (Tm9Vp)
Posted by: city gal at August 30, 2011 07:11 PM (k1rwm)
If you're so sorry why is it all you are capable of doing you pathetic trig truther linking gay porn loving troll.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 03:25 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Zombie Ed McMahon at August 30, 2011 03:26 PM (PcoXF)
"Bitchslap in Beantown", in which Allah Photoshopped a Red Sox/Yankees bench-clearing brawl into the Israel/Palestinian conflict (signature line: Don Zimmer saying "Bury me at Entebbe!") is the single funniest bit of political humor I've ever seen on the Internet.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 30, 2011 03:26 PM (WXhxA)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:27 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 07:21 PM
CoolCzech, the word for "America" in Hangul is "Miguk," pronounced "me-gook." Even now, you're walking around in the backwaters of Korea and they yell "Mikuk salam!" (an American!)
I'm sure that's how it started.
Korea: "Me gook!"
GI: "You gook? Okay."
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:28 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:28 PM (4CSeG)
Remind me to carry an umbrella if I ever visit.
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:29 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: proudonkey at August 30, 2011 06:09 PM (NadeK)
This is probably dum dum because he never knew what a "fact" was; although he's not the only witless troll that, for lack of a better term, thinks that way.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 30, 2011 03:29 PM (UMH09)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 30, 2011 03:30 PM (c0A3e)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:31 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:31 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:31 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:31 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 07:31 PM (4CSeG)
In Austrian.
Posted by: LC LaWedgie at August 30, 2011 03:32 PM (PcoXF)
Nice retort. But you can't pretend that conservatives hate the fact that Obama is almost the perfect husband/dad
Lt Worf won't even ride on the same f'ng plane w/him. And all he got from all her extravagnance is grief and shitty poll numbers.
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:32 PM (m9TjP)
Of course, Liberals will insist that "gook" is a gross, gross example of Caucasian racism, no matter WHAT, though.
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 07:30 PM
They ought to take a trip to the Far East sometime if they want to see what racism is.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:32 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Piñon Farmer at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (IzuWw)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (YhI7X)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 30, 2011 07:33
Yeah, but that's for his own self. No Dick.
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:34 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:35 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: President Dick at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: OCBill at August 30, 2011 03:36 PM (YJvVE)
Posted by: dogfish at August 30, 2011 03:37 PM (N2yhW)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:37 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 03:37 PM (i6RpT)
Uh.... both Iraq and Afganistan are becoming MORE violent again.. Press is just not covering it.
Egypt is about to go full retard Islamic... (yes, I condemn myself)..
Libya does not look good for the West... UN is talking boots on the ground, which means longterm US involvment in another Mideast Stinkhole.
EPA Ozone rules are about to hit... and hit the economy VERY hard.
Californias new Large vehicle enviro law is about to hit, and further tank Californias economy... (California consturction companies can't afford to comply with the new regs, and are sellling off equipment out of state).
And the Electorate is angry.... and Washington is clueless... almost as much as this author.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 30, 2011 03:37 PM (NtXW4)
14. plans to pivot to focus on jobs like a laser beam after 2 years of totally not focusing on jobs.
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 07:35 PM
Doesn't he plan to pivot like a laser? Or focus on a divot? Maybe it was dive like a loser.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (3n2lK)
I mean, what's next- linking to Daily Kos?
for fuck's sake just cuz some blogger throws out a sack of shit doesn't mean you gotta pick it up
Posted by: Jones at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (8sCoq)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:38 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:39 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: Jones at August 30, 2011 07:38 PM (8sCoq)
WordPress makes is easy to create and manage a personal blog.
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:39 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (4CSeG)
Breaking News: Liberals write highly partisan piece and Ace of Spades covers it by calling out bullshit.
Commenter Jones thinks this is just wrong.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (QxSug)
almost understands basic umbrella operation
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 07:37 PM (4CSeG)
Couldn't find his ass with both hands...
and written directions...
on a fucking teleprompter.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:40 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: madtechie at August 30, 2011 03:41 PM (wIVOB)
Posted by: guy who really really has to take an Obama at August 30, 2011 03:41 PM (wAQA5)
Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2011 03:41 PM (YhI7X)
14. Wags finger at corporate jet owners, then takes 30-minute flight in largest corporate jet on planet.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 03:42 PM (vG00k)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:42 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:43 PM (m9TjP)
no divot, pivot!
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 07:40 PM
Oooh, there's an idea. Lefties* should demand Obama present his jobs plan before he hits the links again.
No pivot, no divot!
*righties just as happy if he keeps his SCoaMF mouth shut
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:43 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Robert17 at August 30, 2011 03:43 PM (LaaRT)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:44 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: working man's PhD at August 30, 2011 03:44 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 03:44 PM (QxSug)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at August 30, 2011 07:36 PM (d0Tfm)
Except police because they obviously act stupidly.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (jx2j9)
Remember the Redskins were wrong in 2004.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (0q2P7)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (KXJjY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:45 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 03:46 PM (14jKX)
not good at it; not able to see the Obvious; no sense of direction
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 30, 2011 03:46 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:47 PM (m9TjP)
Iowahawk will vote for him, because he is a blog goldmine.
The staff of 'The Onion' will vote against because they hate the competition.
Posted by: fluffy at August 30, 2011 03:47 PM (3SvjA)
...Romney should just offer to drop his campaign if Perry gives him the VP slot...
Would you like that ticket? I would.
But I still think Palwenty is on the ticket with Perry. They are in cahoots.
Posted by: soothie at August 30, 2011 03:48 PM (J0tQ5)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:48 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:48 PM (qOTYB)
Let's have Perry do some debates and prove his mettle first, but, yeah, I'm for that plan. I would like Perry to not have to run too far right, which is what he'll have to do if it comes down to basically him, Romney, and Bachmann.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 03:48 PM (5H6zj)
14. Who can turn the world on with his smile?
Oh dear me. Never mind Photoshop -- we need someone with Camtasia skills.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:48 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:49 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 30, 2011 03:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 03:49 PM (14jKX)
not good at it; not able to see the Obvious; no sense of direction
Hey, you would've been distracted too when that busty nubile gal posed nekkid for that guy .
Posted by: Midnight Watch, RMS Titanic at August 30, 2011 03:49 PM (vG00k)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:49 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (KXJjY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (14jKX)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: guy who really really has to take an Obama at August 30, 2011 07:41 PM (wAQA5)
Are you able to carry a tire rim, and don't mind that people know you need to use the men's room?
Posted by: Guy Who Really Doesn't Want His Shithouse Key Stolen at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (jucos)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 03:51 PM (14jKX)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:51 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: Barney Frank at August 30, 2011 03:52 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 07:50 PM (KXJjY)
That never happened! Are you drunk?
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:52 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 03:52 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: typical Leftist at August 30, 2011 03:52 PM (niZvt)
Whoa I just found this story at Daily Kos! Only 56 comments so far.
When it comes to dead conversations that trail off miserably until the ONT puts us out of our misery, WE RULE.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 03:52 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:53 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: typical Leftist at August 30, 2011 03:53 PM (niZvt)
14. Knows how to put that baby in "D", while slack-jawed yokels hold on to their Slurpees in wonder.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 30, 2011 03:54 PM (vG00k)
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2011 03:54 PM (q177U)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 03:55 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:55 PM (qOTYB)
If Captain Abysmal wins re-election, this Lichtman fella' can pull down his pants in the middle of the intersection of Sprague and Division in downtown Spokane, and I'll kiss his ass, in broad daylight.
Posted by: franksalterego at August 30, 2011 03:56 PM (7/sDI)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 03:56 PM (m9TjP)
I guess he doesn't "have to" post at Hot Air, does he?
I don't think he deserves quite the level of venom he sometimes draws, but he is a prick to his readership based on what I've heard of his Twitter taunts.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 03:56 PM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Peaches at August 30, 2011 03:57 PM (aMAEM)
Posted by: ontherocks at August 30, 2011 03:57 PM (HBqDo)
Follow through needs work.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 03:57 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 03:58 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 30, 2011 03:58 PM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 03:58 PM (KXJjY)
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 03:58 PM (qOTYB)
Posted by: Fritz at August 30, 2011 03:58 PM (YhI7X)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:00 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 04:00 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: Sheriff Joe, ScoutPac #457 at August 30, 2011 04:01 PM (PcoXF)
along with others who act like they actually have a clue about what the fuck that boneheaded vacuous statement actually means.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 04:01 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:01 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 04:01 PM (KXJjY)
1. Rip another shred off The Constitution and burn at the special MBM altar
2. Place the ashes under my pillow in the special container provided by Uncle George S. and Bill Ayers ( and forged at Rev Wright church )
3. Hope that the clusterfuckery fairy pays a visit !
Posted by: The Clusterfuckery Fairy at August 30, 2011 04:02 PM (7U2lm)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 04:02 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 04:02 PM (HksrE)
14. Would feel comfortable in a debate with Spongebob Squarepants.
Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 30, 2011 04:03 PM (qOTYB)
We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart
Posted by: H.L. Mencken at August 30, 2011 04:03 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 04:03 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 04:03 PM (5H6zj)
14. Would feel comfortable in a debate with Spongebob Squarepants.
15. Makes Patrick feel as intelligent as him
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 04:04 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: Peaches at August 30, 2011 04:04 PM (aMAEM)
Actually, the man is on his way home. I think we're going out for dinner.
Posted by: Y-not at August 30, 2011 04:06 PM (5H6zj)
Check in the fridge, Mom keeps it in the fake mayo jar...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 04:06 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:06 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:06 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Rollory at August 30, 2011 04:07 PM (aGtNd)
does LBJ factor into this brainiacs equations anywhere?
A couple of posters here caught that, but then again the brainiac thinks that 6 is more than half of 13. His scope of history is probably Ezra Klein-esque.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:07 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: ontherocks at August 30, 2011 04:07 PM (HBqDo)
14. Down with the Palestinian cause.
Posted by: Rashid Khalidi at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (HksrE)
Posted by: Racefan at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (GuLJ9)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (m9TjP)
Sent Biden to China.
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 08:04 PM
Biden came back; deduct point.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: sifty, about what you'd expect at August 30, 2011 04:08 PM (4CSeG)
I rate him as the same level as Howard Zinn. Oh, and Matt Damon! MMAAAATTT DDAAAAMMOOON
Posted by: Matt Damon at August 30, 2011 04:09 PM (+oucB)
Posted by: garrett at August 30, 2011 04:09 PM (HksrE)
I remember the halcyon days when dum dum was a curious moderate, earnestly trying engage us in a meaningful debate. That lasted, what, a week?
Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 30, 2011 04:10 PM (9CM5J)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:11 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:12 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jimmah at August 30, 2011 04:12 PM (Ky8qS)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (+oucB)
I remember the halcyon days when dum dum was a curious moderate, earnestly trying engage us in a meaningful debate. That lasted, what, a week?
Yeah, he got a little sideways after his inflatable girlfriend sprung the first leak. He was a lot more fun than this latest crop of humorless douchenozzles, though. It was so easy to get him all foaming at the mouth. Good times.
Posted by: Peaches at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (aMAEM)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 08:08 PM (14jKX)
Single handedly ruined the credibility of every institution of high learning that he attended.
(I'm actually kind of snickering out the side of my mouth at all of the parents who will be forever wondering what their quarter million dollar investments in ivy league educations for their children actually bought.)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (jx2j9)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at August 30, 2011 08:11 PM
We never did get the flight manifest for that scary bullshit move, did we?
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (niZvt)
I'm thinking not bending the economy over a pinball machine is going to be added to the list.
Another might be substantially raising the cost of living for the majority of Americans.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at August 30, 2011 04:13 PM (0q2P7)
Say what!?
Posted by: Ambiguously Gay Duo at August 30, 2011 04:14 PM (r4t7/)
If you will subscribe to my newsletter, I will suck your dick.
Posted by: Allan Lichtman at August 30, 2011 04:14 PM (9CM5J)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:14 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: 1 * at August 30, 2011 04:16 PM (UkR09)
Posted by: Peaches at August 30, 2011 04:18 PM (aMAEM)
Posted by: Allan Lichtman at August 30, 2011 08:14 PM
Titled "How to suck the Barbed cock of satan, and pole people with as much bullshit as allowed by Law". With eyes closed and ears plugged.
"Stypud shtt r us, inc"
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:18 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 04:18 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 30, 2011 04:19 PM (QKKT0)
They were just planking. Or is that flanking?
Posted by: Ronster at August 30, 2011 04:19 PM (4fcWw)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: The Piñon Farmer formerly known as NM Hick at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (IzuWw)
That officer sure has a penetrating investigative style.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (+Uv5V)
The dumbest things I've ever read are people who criticize Romney for RomneyCare, and then support a guy who supported HillaryCare and mandated Gardisal.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 04:21 PM (OAzB1)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:23 PM (m9TjP)
KOB Eyewitness News 4 has obtained surveillance pictures of a State Police officer having sex with a woman on the hood of a car in broad daylight.
That officer sure has a penetrating investigative style.
Her fluid levels were low and he was just offering roadside assistance. Gettin' her fluid levels topped off and stuff. Nothing to see here. Move along.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 04:23 PM (+Uv5V)
HAL! New Thread!
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 08:16 PM
I think we'd better just proceed. So: Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:23 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:24 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 30, 2011 04:24 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 04:24 PM (NmR1a)
Posted by: HAL9000 at August 30, 2011 04:25 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: city gal at August 30, 2011 04:25 PM (k1rwm)
Open the thread bay door, please, HAL! Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 08:24 PM
Not until you tell me what the hell the end of this movie means, Dave.
Posted by: HAL at August 30, 2011 04:26 PM (3n2lK)
Looks like The Man was sticking it to her.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 04:26 PM (+Uv5V)
Did I miss any of the women?
Posted by: city gal at August 30, 2011 08:25 PM
Hillary . . . more or less.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:26 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 30, 2011 04:27 PM (QKKT0)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:27 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 08:23 PM (3n2lK)
When does the odometer roll over
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2011 04:28 PM (q177U)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:28 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Racefan at August 30, 2011 04:28 PM (GuLJ9)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:29 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: tasker at August 30, 2011 04:29 PM (14jKX)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 04:29 PM (i6RpT)
His MIL, His Wife, His two daughters, His Valerie Jarrett.
He spends weekends playing golf so he doesn't see his daughters. He and Michelle are probably sleeping in separate suites by now. His MIL is probably confined to her quarters. His VJ wants to suck his dick, so he likes to have her around.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:29 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: The Cop Screwing a Woman on the Hood of a Car in Broad Daylight at August 30, 2011 04:29 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (niZvt)
When does the odometer roll over
Posted by: Max Power at August 30, 2011 08:28 PMWhen Ace mumbles "You're snoring."
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at August 30, 2011 04:31 PM (i6RpT)
The dumbest things I've ever read are people who criticize Romney for RomneyCare, and then support a guy who supported HillaryCare and mandated Gardisal.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 08:21 PM (OAzB1)
Good job sir. Your smart-assed comment has convinced me that in spite of his two terms as a solidly Republican governor I should abandon Perry in favor of the guy who strapped a dog to the roof of his car.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 04:32 PM (uhAkr)
Ok, Ace. You want to talk dumb? I'll give you the most mind numbingly dumb thing you will ever read in your entire life.
What was more important in the past decade 9/11 or Facebook?
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 04:32 PM (OrWka)
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:32 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 04:34 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 08:28 PM (niZvt)
Uh, one of these cops?
Posted by: The Piñon Farmer formerly known as NM Hick at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM (IzuWw)
Then, in the "story" one finds the following sentences:
"No one was injured and there was no damage to either vehicle," the department said in a press release.
The extent of the damage to either car was not known.
I smell Pulitzer, LA Times!!
Posted by: Peaches at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM (aMAEM)
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM (niZvt)
I dont care about the PETA vote.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 08:33 PM (OAzB1)
I hope you like Scientologists, cause that's all that'll vote for the guy whose favorite book is Battlefield Earth.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 04:35 PM (uhAkr)
Posted by: Lauren at August 30, 2011 08:32 PM
2. The Failure to Address Global Warming
Hmmm, maybe true. We saved the world several zillion dollars.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:36 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: Racefan at August 30, 2011 04:36 PM (GuLJ9)
They are wrong.
So far, Obama has dodged the bullet when it comes to:
A) major disasters. No Katrina or Ike, just Tropical Storm Irene. Will this last? Hurricane season is not even half over.
B) Foreign policy disasters. The usual motley crew of thugs will be tempted to push for what they can get from a weak indecisive president than wait for an unknown, and probably much less tractable successor. While Obama looked like a cinch for reelection, there was little incentive to make trouble -- why not get four years to push him around after reelection -- but now they are figuring they need to get what they can when they can get it.
C) Social unrest raised its ugly head this summer. Riots in UK and the Middle East, flash gangs and ugly incidents here in the US. Next summer could be far worse, especially with election season and political mischief makers on the left who might not be able to stop what they start.
Obama's is an extremely fragile administration. Even when everything goes right, he just barely keeps it on the rails, and the least unexpected crisis seems to result in chaos. This next year will be interesting, and not in a good way.
Posted by: Sweet Lou at August 30, 2011 04:37 PM (4LmN/)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 04:37 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:38 PM (niZvt)
The dumbest things I've ever read are people who criticize Romney for RomneyCare, and then support a guy who supported HillaryCare and mandated Gardisal.
You fuckin' stud. You are the butchest one so far.
Posted by: sifty, Foo Pitying Teahadi at August 30, 2011 04:39 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: David Bowman at August 30, 2011 04:41 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Paris Paramus at August 30, 2011 04:42 PM (kfz40)
Posted by: Racefan at August 30, 2011 04:42 PM (GuLJ9)
Posted by: Leeotis at August 30, 2011 04:42 PM (WHzcT)
Posted by: Beavis at August 30, 2011 04:42 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: sifty, Foo Pitying Teahadi at August 30, 2011 04:43 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:43 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: sifty, Foo Pitying Teahadi at August 30, 2011 04:44 PM (4CSeG)
Please to try and remain on this moron blog. Many comments will to find very much of inerest, such as SCOAMF.
Posted by: SCOAMF iPad download at August 30, 2011 04:44 PM (q177U)
One word: My internet was down today and I sure am glad it's back up now because I was housesitting for my sister.
Posted by: arhooley at August 30, 2011 04:44 PM (3n2lK)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:45 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:47 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: joejm65 at August 30, 2011 04:47 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: Cop Screwing the Woman on the Hood of the Car at August 30, 2011 04:49 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: hutch1200 at August 30, 2011 04:50 PM (m9TjP)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 08:44 PM (niZvt)
Kind of like enacting a personal mandate in Texas and supporting open borders and HillaryCare.
Except Romney governed liberal Mass voters with 85% Dem majorities in both houses. Perry is just a slick panderer, who made those liberal decisions in a conservative state. Perry is the biggest phony going.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 04:50 PM (OAzB1)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 04:50 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Palinista at August 30, 2011 08:45 PM (3n2lK)
try "HotAir". Ask 'the Boss'. fapfapfapfap
Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 30, 2011 04:51 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 30, 2011 04:51 PM (+Uv5V)
Except Romney governed liberal
Mass voters with 85% Dem majorities in both houses. Perry is just a
slick panderer, who made those liberal decisions in a conservative
state. Perry is the biggest phony going.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 08:50 PM (OAzB1)
It's not working. Keep trying.
Posted by: sifty, Foo Pitying Teahadi at August 30, 2011 04:52 PM (4CSeG)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 04:53 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Cop Screwing the Woman on the Hood of the Car at August 30, 2011 04:53 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Racefan at August 30, 2011 04:53 PM (GuLJ9)
They have no idea how badly Obama fucked up the economy because they've felt no pain. Right when Obama came into office and started ratcheting up the fear with his stimulus package, absolutely everyone went into a 'no hire' bunker mode that we've never came out of.
If you've been unemployed for over a year, like many here no doubt have, you'd crawl over broken glass to vote against him. Hell if union thugs realize that he's cooked and try to prevent people from voting by using some mob intimidation at polling places (totally possible in todays atmosphere), I'll buzzsaw my way through them. I'm well beyond the 'anger' phase now. If we don't win in '12 its over folks. Another 4 years of "uhh uhhh uhhh private jets errr uhhh for the rich errr uuhhh new jobs bill uhhh errr uhhh"
If the millions of unemployed don't get jobs soon, they may be unemployable forever unless we have a boom. We'll only have a boom under a Republican President.
Posted by: Bob Jerkoff at August 30, 2011 04:54 PM (Tv6z3)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:54 PM (niZvt)
Except Romney governed liberal Mass voters with 85% Dem majorities in both houses. Perry is just a slick panderer, who made those liberal decisions in a conservative state. Perry is the biggest phony going.
Posted by: winning at August 30, 2011 08:50 PM (OAzB1)
Well Iguess that will really annoy you when he's the fucking president. Sorry about that.
Posted by: Losing at August 30, 2011 04:54 PM (q177U)
I am anispeptic, frasmotic, even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation.
I shall henceforth endeavor to tone down my sesquipedalian rhetoric.
Well there goes my free time for the next six months. Thanks much.
Posted by: Ronster at August 30, 2011 04:55 PM (4fcWw)
Posted by: CoolCzech at August 30, 2011 04:56 PM (niZvt)
Except Romney governed liberal Mass voters with 85% Dem majorities in both houses. Perry is just a slick panderer, who made those liberal decisions in a conservative state. Perry is the biggest phony going.
And in 2008, those Dem majorities in the legislature got larger. Romney did nothing to try to help the Republican Party grow in Massachusetts.
In 2010, I spent 7 months volunteering for campaigns. Word on the street: Romney is not a team player.
Posted by: fluffy, Masshole at August 30, 2011 04:56 PM (3SvjA)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 04:57 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 30, 2011 05:04 PM (bxiXv)
Posted by: Acceptable Loss AudioBook at August 30, 2011 05:07 PM (TiSe5)
Something that bugs me about the hardcore Mittbots - you guys are all so convinced that all things being equal, people will choose Romney.
But that's not the case. Because when it comes down to it, his record isn't impressive. Before you launch into the bullet points, let me remind you a chubby governor from Arkansas who pardoned a thousand people kicked his ass three years ago.
He ran an Olympics and Bain Capital. Who. Cares.
His term in Massachusetts sucked. He was impotent and latched on to RomneyCare so he could have an accomplishment.
Perry actually has won re-election. Before that he was Lieutenant Governor. His record is better. He's a more capable politician.
But you guys spend all your time trying to 'prove' that Candidate X is a flip flopper like Mitt, thinking that we'll all just finally fall to our knees and recognize Mitt's divinity.
It's not happening.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 05:10 PM (uhAkr)
Something that bugs me about the hardcore Mittbots - you guys are all so convinced that all things being equal, people will choose Romney.
But that's not the case. Because when it comes down to it, his record isn't impressive. Before you launch into the bullet points, let me remind you a chubby governor from Arkansas who pardoned a thousand people kicked his ass three years ago.
He ran an Olympics and Bain Capital. Who. Cares.
His term in Massachusetts sucked. He was impotent and latched on to RomneyCare so he could have an accomplishment.
Perry actually has won re-election. Before that he was Lieutenant Governor. His record is better. He's a more capable politician.
But you guys spend all your time trying to 'prove' that Candidate X is a flip flopper like Mitt, thinking that we'll all just finally fall to our knees and recognize Mitt's divinity.
It's not happening.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 30, 2011 09:10 PM (uhAkr)
What I find interesting, it doesn't actually bug me, is how they have reacted to Perry. Before he entered they just felt like Romney was the inevitable candidate, sure most didn't care for him but as other dropped out their support would eventually default to Romney. So they never really went after other candidates and would mostly just defend Romney. Perry enters and they are on the ATTACK with him. I think they subconsciously know that Perry is a more appealing candidate for supporters to default to once their preferred one drops out and that definitely threatens Romney's standing.
Posted by: buzzion at August 30, 2011 05:20 PM (GULKT)
Hmmmm ... do flashmobs committing racial hate crimes count as social unrest? (The MSM is doing its best to downplay this story too. Nothing to see here folks. Just another white guy with his face smashed in.)
Posted by: Disaffected Yute with a $400 iphone at August 30, 2011 05:37 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: James Carter at August 30, 2011 05:42 PM (iRlbA)
Posted by: steevy at August 30, 2011 05:42 PM (1Nzoh)
Posted by: joeindc44 at August 30, 2011 06:18 PM (u9B7L)
Posted by: Stig at August 30, 2011 06:23 PM (EG/p1)
Posted by: ben at August 31, 2011 05:51 AM (k8v1W)
2. Incumbency
3. No third-party candidate
4. Major domestic-policy changes in his first term
5. No social unrest
6. No major scandals
7. No major foreign-policy failures
8. Major foreign-policy achievements in his first term (killing Bin Laden)
9. Little charisma by his likely opponent
10. Styrofoam Greek Columns in storage and ready for use again
Posted by: Spell Caster at August 31, 2011 07:09 AM (z82lw)
I'm experiencing an odd sensation of deja vu.....
Posted by: Clueless at September 08, 2011 07:06 AM (LyOUH)
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Lichtman's 13 points is well known.
Posted by: soothsayer at August 30, 2011 01:33 PM (sqkOB)