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September 22, 2011

The Federal Debt Mess - Tea Party Perspective. [ArthurK]
— Open Blogger

A lot of zeros in a trillion. Hard to comprehend. The Gainesville Tea Party simplified the debt issue by chopping 8 zeros off all the numbers - creating family sized dollar amounts.

Why S&P Downgraded the US:
U.S. Tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
Federal budget: $3,820,000,000,000
New debt: $1,650,000,000,000

National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
Recent [April] budget cut: $38,500,000,000
Let’s remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:
Annual family income: $21,700
Money the family spent: $38,200
New debt (this year) on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Budget cuts: $385

Looking at it this way, there are few serious politicians in DC working on the problem.

(Published out of draft by Ace).

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1 Crap, Thadeous McCotter just dropped out. It would have been nice if the media would have let him debate.

I guess I go with my backup. Newt.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 11:29 AM (jiVmv)

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

I guess I go with my backup. Newt.
Do you enjoy disappointment?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 11:32 AM (8y9MW)

I want less of this, and more discussion of the precise terminology our candidates should be allowed to use when describing exactly how much of a complete and utter f*ckup SS is. Because that's what's important. Semantics.

Posted by: chazmartel at September 22, 2011 11:33 AM (wlSqE)

4 I'd like there to actually be a debate, instead of the media picking our guy this time.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 11:34 AM (jiVmv)

5 Sadly the bottom chart is the financial situation of many Americans right now.

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2011 11:35 AM (wuv1c)

6
in the top 10

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, anti marauder at September 22, 2011 11:35 AM (sqkOB)

7 I guess I go with my backup. Newt.

Will he be on the couch with Pelosi?

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 11:35 AM (M9Ie6)

8 math is sooooo racist.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 22, 2011 11:35 AM (QxSug)

9 How do I get a card like that? Do you have to live in DC?

Posted by: ontherocks at September 22, 2011 11:36 AM (HBqDo)

10 Chopping zeroes off of numbers is racist.

Posted by: The Mega Independent at September 22, 2011 11:36 AM (G4CrN)

11 Budget cuts: $385

This is why I give crying Boner so much shit for his deals.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 11:36 AM (M9Ie6)

12 Except there were no cuts, only reductions in the rate of growth.

Posted by: Bob Saget at September 22, 2011 11:37 AM (F/4zf)

13 These are the numbers our side should talk about.

The trillions and billions don't mean anything.

The debt is $131,000 per taxpayer - $260,000 per family!!!

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 11:37 AM (OhYCU)

14 This Dow meltdown is because of that kiss between the 2 obamas

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 11:38 AM (i6RpT)

15 When I was out of work earlier this year, I cut my spending significantly. Six months before it happened, I had warnings that it could happen. I cut my spending then, too.

That's what grown-ups do.

Posted by: Ima Wurdibitsch at September 22, 2011 11:39 AM (fk/lm)

16
All I'm hearing is anti-government anti-tax rhetoric.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warren, anti marauder at September 22, 2011 11:39 AM (sqkOB)

17 I was told there would be no math in this blog. Liars! Racists!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2011 11:39 AM (f9c2L)

18 http://tinyurl.com/3tgnue8 I made a google document like this, but more complex. Hope you enjoy

Posted by: David at September 22, 2011 11:39 AM (/0a60)

19 If we didn't already know that Tea Partiers were hobbit, homophobe, xenophobe, violent racists who wantonly kill children and old people, this would make sense.

Except for that.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 11:39 AM (jx2j9)

20 You don't get it. If we gun it, we can jump across.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, with all of us in the passenger seats at September 22, 2011 11:40 AM (SCcgT)

21 Shit. Do we at least get airline miles?

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 22, 2011 11:41 AM (cwKJC)

22 The bottom fell out of the market. I lost all $18.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at September 22, 2011 11:41 AM (jiVmv)

23 Ace there's only so much we can do. Obama is getting exactly what he is gunning for. The American people's prosperity is being held hostage. All we can do is wait him out, get power back then judge the GOP on performance. Undoing the idiocy, fraud, and abuse will take six years or so minimum.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 22, 2011 11:41 AM (AEIYh)

24 Yeah, you fuckers, what about the roads? Roads cost trillions of dollars, duh. signed XXOO your moral and intellectual superiors.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 22, 2011 11:42 AM (QxSug)

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 22, 2011 03:41 PM (hXJOG)

they're unpopularw/ the public. polls show they have wisen up w/ them

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 11:42 AM (yAor6)

26 This is a highly effective illustration.

Let's just keep doing this. Get those numbers down to a size the American people understand.

And then note that the problem is a hundred million times worse.

Posted by: Dustin at September 22, 2011 11:42 AM (fF625)

27 Dow Jones jumped off the Ohio bridge.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 11:43 AM (OhYCU)

Yup we need more big spenders and RINOs to solve the problems we have. Let's just spend more and increase the taxes then all will be like they are in Argentina and Zimbabwe!

Perry/Romney in 2012, living like they live in Argentina and Zimbabwe!

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 11:44 AM (S7K8x)

29 Dow Jones jumped off the Ohio bridge. Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 03:43 PM (OhYCU) I thought that was the Tallahache bridge?

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 11:44 AM (i6RpT)

>>>You don't get it. If we gun it, we can jump across.

okay, i almost cried laughing at that

Posted by: Ben at September 22, 2011 11:44 AM (wuv1c)

31 11 Vic, Just send him your mind control ray so he can cow Reid and Ogabe.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 22, 2011 11:44 AM (AEIYh)

32 Did you peasants checked out my wife's cool bracelets?

Posted by: King Barry the Scoamf at September 22, 2011 11:45 AM (+Fryi)

33 You aren't looking at the asset side of the ledger. That family also owns a couple Aegis cruisers and a shitload of F-16s. Plus they get to print their own money. When CapitalOne comes to collect, they better bring a lunch.

Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 22, 2011 11:45 AM (+lsX1)

This will do nothing to cure the ulcerative colitis in the White House.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 11:45 AM (jx2j9)

35 Well, we had the choice to raise taxes to create jobs.

Posted by: g. soros at September 22, 2011 11:46 AM (jiVmv)

36 Perry will have some serious 'splainin to do tonight. From what I have been reading his State has serious immigration issues he has yet to address while having the power to do so. Plus there are new alligations of him having his own Solydra type deal going on. I'm all for ABO but time is running out if we are serious about saving our country at the ballot box. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to elect a RINO or oppurtunist for President this cycle.

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 11:46 AM (I/MzF)

37 Budget cuts: $385

You're welcome.

Posted by: John Boehner at September 22, 2011 11:46 AM (FkKjr)

38 So according to this model, the Democrats are willing to shutter the government over $36.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 11:47 AM (o2lIv)

39 Tell everyone you know not join this bag of shit organization.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 22, 2011 03:41 PM (hXJOG)

They sign you up automatically for free when you turn 55. That is how the get so many members.

I sent back to them and told them to remove me from their rolls.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 11:47 AM (M9Ie6)

40 39 Budget cuts: $385

You're welcome.

Posted by: John Boehner at September 22, 2011 03:46 PM (FkKjr)

Of course, that was $385 off the total increases expected over the next 10 years...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2011 11:48 AM (Iaxlk)

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 03:46 PM (I/MzF)

wow I never seen you here before and suddenly you come in w/ the Michelle Malkin talking points? forgive me if I'm wrong but you sound like a prime example of a campaign hired troll. maybe i'm wrong, but that's what it seems.

Perry does have a big issue w/ his Dream Act-like stuff but he had to deal w/ the cards he was dealt by the federal Govt. As for Tardasil, i'm exhausted trying to explain the pros and cons with that. someone can do that for me?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 11:50 AM (yAor6)

W.C. Fields says that the U.S. shouldnÂ’t allow Israel to be a democracy. Clinton? No shit? Had me fooled.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 11:50 AM (jx2j9)

43 Obama is the happiest man in the country today. His plan is working.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at September 22, 2011 11:50 AM (OhYCU)

44 35 GEH, Bambi is wanting to cut defense to help them out....we'll be an episode of Op Repo.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 22, 2011 11:51 AM (AEIYh)

45 the precise terminology our candidates should be allowed to use when describing exactly how much of a complete and utter f*ckup SS is

"A hiccup in the demographics"

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 22, 2011 11:51 AM (Hx5uv)

46 what about the roads?

Drink!

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 11:52 AM (bjRNS)

47 W.C. Fields says that the U.S. shouldnÂ’t allow Israel to be a democracy. Clinton? No shit? Had me fooled. Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 03:50 PM (jx2j9) Bill Clinton has had a hard on for Netanyahu ever since that Wye River Conference

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 11:52 AM (i6RpT)

Of course, that was $385 off the total increases expected over the next 10 years...

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2011 03:48 PM (Iaxlk)

Give me some credit. Over ten years we were gonna cut $10,000, with $9,000 of that in the final year. Cause in ten years it would be easier to cut.

I'm playing four-dimensional chess here.

Posted by: John Boehner at September 22, 2011 11:52 AM (FkKjr)

49 State has serious immigration issues he has yet to address while having the power to do so.

What power would that be? Besides, you know, sending cops to the border (which he's done in droves)?

Plus there are new alligations of him having his own Solydra type deal going on.

Specifics w/ primary source or I'm calling a "curious" on this comment.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 11:52 AM (8y9MW)

Anyone planning on watching the debate tonight?

Between the probability of yet another disappointing Perry performance, that annoying Eat-shit smirk on Romney's pie-hole, and the Crazy Lady screeching bloody murder over vaccines or whatnot... I'm not sure I have the heart or stomach to watch.

I'm kind of in the dumps today. I have this feeling that Romeny will ultimately prevail, and while he may well win, we will have blown the best chance conservatives will have the rest of this century to elect a non-RINO to the White House.

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2011 11:53 AM (Iaxlk)

51 Right and the rehtoric Obadamy chose to use during the CR debate demonized Repubs like they were wrong for shining the light on this.

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 11:53 AM (I/MzF)

Now even if I earn a fraction of a penny, under Obama's tax plan I'm screwed.

Posted by: Roy at September 22, 2011 11:54 AM (VndSC)

53 Money the family spent: $38,200 Correction: Losses due to burglary, identity thest, and outright fraud: $38,200

Posted by: t-bird at September 22, 2011 11:54 AM (FcR7P)

54 Anyone planning on watching the debate tonight?

I can't, but I've already suggested the Live Blog take the form of Sock Troy Aikman and Sock Joe Buck providing commentary.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 11:54 AM (8y9MW)

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 03:52 PM (8y9MW)

curious has been silent for awhile. getting new ip adress?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 11:55 AM (yAor6)

56 Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to elect a RINO or oppurtunist for President this cycle. Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 03:46 PM (I/MzF) Sonnyspats, who do you support?

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 11:55 AM (RD7QR)

57 But, they're the smartest guys in the room, up there in that Washington DC place.......

Posted by: © Sponge at September 22, 2011 11:55 AM (UK9cE)

Those embarrassing rectal spasms at the White House? This isnÂ’t helping.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (jx2j9)

59 Oh, and that must have been one hell of a line of credit that family got! Awesome! Uh, wait...

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (RD7QR)

60 curious has been silent for awhile. getting new ip adress?

I wondered that myself.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (8y9MW)

61 This needs to be passed around. Even a moron like myself can understand it. Numbers and all.

Posted by: Bosk at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (n2K+4)

62 We need to clean house. How can life work in America with an idiots like Pelosi and Barney Frank in charge?

Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (0fzsA)

Anyone planning on watching the debate tonight?

from 9-9:30 i'll switch to "The Office"

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 11:56 AM (yAor6)

64 This demonstration would be more accurate if they also added that there were 4 union thugs living in the house, refusing to work and demanding to be fed caviar and Dom Perignon for breakfast.

Posted by: joeindc44 at September 22, 2011 11:57 AM (QxSug)

65 All of your Zeros belong to me!

Posted by: Barack Obama at September 22, 2011 11:57 AM (rJVPU)

66 Dow recovering, up to -381.

Posted by: joncelli at September 22, 2011 11:58 AM (RD7QR)

Anyone planning on watching the debate tonight?

I'm beyond caring. I'm going to vote Perry when the chance comes, and then for whomever is the R nominee. But I don't care anymore. It doesn't matter. It's well past tar and feather time.

Posted by: chazmartel at September 22, 2011 11:58 AM (wlSqE)

68 And the eggheads like Will, Ironsides, and Barnes keep making fun of the Tea Party as hopelessly ignorant of what is going on.

We know perfectly well how it is. And we know who drove us to Shitville and shot the radiator.

Posted by: sifty at September 22, 2011 11:58 AM (4CSeG)

69 This Dow meltdown is because of that kiss between the 2 obamas

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 03:38 PM (i6RpT)

I agree.

The teleprompter in the shot was jealous and sent word out to the other computers that things needed to change.

"I'm not going to be IGNORED, am I Barry!?!"

Posted by: © Sponge at September 22, 2011 11:58 AM (UK9cE)

70 62 AllenG, her droogs at the milk bar tried to drown her

Posted by: sven10077 at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (AEIYh)

71 ...so, when you look at it that way, the gov't gave $5.36 to some buddies at Solyndra. Not a big deal at all!

Posted by: The Cupbearers for a Styrofoam Demigode at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (FcR7P)

Posted by: sifty at September 22, 2011 03:58 PM (4CSeG)

you forgot Medved

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (yAor6)

73 42 39 Of course, that was $385 off the total increases expected over the next 10 years...

It was mostly over the course of two years.

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (o2lIv)

74 57
curious has been silent for awhile. getting new ip adress?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 03:55 PM (yAor6)

She's getting "fixed" - the whole "Chastity into Chaz" story inspired it to face itself.

Posted by: No Whining at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (Wqfrr)

75 Bill Clinton has had a hard on for Netanyahu ever since that Wye River Conference

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 22, 2011 03:52 PM (i6RpT)

Neither Bill or Hillary disguise their dislike for Jews in general very well, imo.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 11:59 AM (jx2j9)

76 and the Crazy Lady screeching bloody murder over vaccines or whatnot... You mean Rick Santorum? (I use to love that guy...jeebus-but he's just as bad.)

Posted by: tasker at September 22, 2011 12:00 PM (rJVPU)

77 I'm beyond caring. I'm going to vote Perry when the chance comes, and then for whomever is the R nominee.

Ditto. We'll see whether it matters when the primary reaches California.

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 12:00 PM (bjRNS)

Anyone planning on watching the debate tonight?

from 9-9:30 i'll switch to "The Office"

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 03:56 PM (yAor6)

Hopefully Ace and the Cob-loggers will live-blog it

Posted by: CanaDave ---Say Yes to Keystone Pipeline--- at September 22, 2011 12:00 PM (T3vxL)

79 Replayed part of that Warren woman's video from a previous thread and had to stop. That anti-business attitude IS representative of Obama's base. When people fell for the media view that Obama is centrist and voted for him, they gave us a guy who is anti-business, and now they are all shocked at the failure of his policies. I truly hope that the people who voted for him the last time wise up before Nov. '12.

Posted by: nerdygirl at September 22, 2011 12:00 PM (MEtbb)

80 40>> So according to this model, the Democrats are willing to shutter the government over $36.
Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 03:47 PM (o2lIv)

_{All that political savvy and you're a model too?}

_{You should be running for office.}

Posted by: ontherocks at September 22, 2011 12:01 PM (HBqDo)

81 38 Perry will have some serious 'splainin to do tonight. From what I have been reading his State has serious immigration issues he has yet to address while having the power to do so. Plus there are new alligations of him having his own Solydra type deal going on. I'm all for ABO but time is running out if we are serious about saving our country at the ballot box. Unfortunately we don't have the luxury to elect a RINO or oppurtunist for President this cycle.

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 03:46 PM (I/MzF)

Hate to sound like a Red State commentor, but your links? Bring on the information, sparky. BTW, if your answer contains the name Byron York, you're a dunce.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:02 PM (8DdAv)

82 On the 2012 CR:

UPDATE: IÂ’m hearing from aides that House Republicans will bring essentially the same CR to the floor for a vote tonight, the only major difference being an additional spending offset that cuts the Department of Energy loan program that funded Solyndra.

/Andrew Stiles, NRO

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 12:02 PM (o2lIv)

Perry sent cops to the border in droves? Which border might that be? The Louisiana one where they're laying in wait for speeders?

To know what a joke Perry is ask one question, "What has Perry done to punish those Texas towns and cities that have sanctuary policies like Houston.?"

Crickets. People who spout such nonsense have no knowledge of Texas nor Perry.

He opposed Arizona's efforts to restrict illegal immigration, he said they couldn't build a fence. But he can led the USA? Sorry if he can't secure the bortder because its soooo difficult he can't possible grasp anything so complex as correcting our economic policies.

What a putz.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:03 PM (S7K8x)

84 George HW Bush's legacy is the 'read my lips' moment.

Clinton was mostly the 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman' presser.

George W has his Mission Accomplished sign wrapped around him.

How the HELL are we going to pick a single dumb ass statement from this Commander Clust*rfuck?

"If you love me, pass this bill." "Shovel Ready wasn't so ready" "PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE"........

I'm voting for a new drinking game. When you hear 'fair share' come out of his piehole, drink.

Posted by: © Sponge at September 22, 2011 12:03 PM (UK9cE)

85 83 Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 03:46 PM (I/MzF)

Had a heapin' helplin' of Concernios for breakfast, did we?

Posted by: No Whining at September 22, 2011 12:03 PM (Wqfrr)

86 you forgot Medved

With luck I'll never hear that simpering little fuck's bass-less voice again. I listen to that guy for 3 minutes and the hair starts to fall out of my chest.

Posted by: sifty at September 22, 2011 12:04 PM (4CSeG)

87 22 The AARP, non profit arm of the DNC. They are running scare ads about cutting SS and Medicare on Fox.
Tell everyone you know not join this bag of shit organization.
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 22, 2011 03:41 PM (hXJOG)

They're nothing more than Big Insurance, masquerading as your BFF for the "golden years".

Posted by: No Whining at September 22, 2011 12:05 PM (Wqfrr)

We've long equated what's going on in Washington with household finances. It's an easy analogy to understand and it resonates with the public.

Which explains why teh Pubbies won't use it. They're not called The Stupid Party for nothing.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 22, 2011 12:06 PM (d0Tfm)

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 22, 2011 03:53 PM (Iaxlk)

Same here.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:06 PM (8DdAv)

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:03 PM (S7K8x)

Molon, who was your candidate again?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:06 PM (yAor6)

91 We need more big spenders like Perry and Romney! We need more legacy Republicans like McConnell and Cantor, to solve our economic problems. They've done so well.

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 12:06 PM (S7K8x)

92 >>I'm voting for a new drinking game. When you hear 'fair share' come out of his piehole, drink.
Posted by: Â© Sponge at September 22, 2011 04:03 PM (UK9cE)

You've got to eat your fair share of peas.

Posted by: ontherocks at September 22, 2011 12:07 PM (HBqDo)

93 DJIA settles out at -391, 10733. For reference the August low was 10719.

Posted by: Retread at September 22, 2011 12:07 PM (BO5ap)

94 82 40>>_{All that political savvy and you're a model too?}_{You should be running for office.

Very funny.}

Posted by: Miss80sBaby at September 22, 2011 12:07 PM (o2lIv)

95 /"""""""""""""""""

Posted by: Ed Anger's Cat at September 22, 2011 12:07 PM (7+pP9)

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:06 PM (S7K8x)

again, whos your candidate?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:08 PM (yAor6)

97 Kinda waiting to hear something positive about your favorite candidate there, LOLon.

No offense.

Posted by: sifty at September 22, 2011 12:08 PM (4CSeG)

98 Gonna make like a baby and head out. You kids save the world while I'm gone getting the Goob.

Posted by: sifty, member of the Perry anti-coyote posse at September 22, 2011 12:10 PM (4CSeG)

Money the family spent: $38,200

On Cheetos, root beer, and cigarettes.

Posted by: eleven at September 22, 2011 12:10 PM (7DB+a)

100 Vic, they send you a phony card, you are a member for a month free and then you get billed. It a marketing tool, I got three cards one month.

I never gave them a nickle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 12:12 PM (M9Ie6)

101 93

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:03 PM (S7K8x)

Molon, who was your candidate again?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 04:06 PM (yAor6)

Bachmann or Paul.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:17 PM (8DdAv)

102 The whole paragraph can be summed up with.....BONED!

Posted by: Red Shirt at September 22, 2011 12:18 PM (FIDMq)

103

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 04:17 PM (8DdAv)

ack! *ignores future comments on 2012 primary*

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Proud Perrywinkler Or w/e) at September 22, 2011 12:18 PM (yAor6)

104

Posted by: Molon Labe at September 22, 2011 04:03 PM (S7K8x)

Google is your friend.

Posted by: The Ghost of Kim Novak at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (8DdAv)

105 /"""""""""""""""""

Posted by: Ed Anger's Cat at September 22, 2011 04:07 PM (7+pP9)

That's the most astute analysis I've seen today.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at September 22, 2011 12:19 PM (W8W07)

106

and the Crazy Lady screeching bloody murder over vaccines or whatnot...

You mean Rick Santorum?

(I use to love that guy...jeebus-but he's just as bad.)

These candidates have such a target rich environment with the SCOAMF and his merry band of fuckups. I would attack this administration hard - mock their quotes such as " We have to pass this bill to know what's in it", ETC. I believe that this is what will resonate with the American people, not the mud slinging at each other.

Posted by: Cheri at September 22, 2011 12:24 PM (G+Wff)

107 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 22, 2011 12:26 PM (fyOgS)

108

This is what Perry is trying to do.

Posted by: eleven at September 22, 2011 12:28 PM (7DB+a)

109 And getting kicked in the nads for it.

Posted by: eleven at September 22, 2011 12:29 PM (7DB+a)

110 Posted by: Gristle Encased Head at September 22, 2011 03:45 PM

I hope you are being sarcastic, since you can say the same of North Korea. The deal is that if we continue to debase the dollar, our government's creditors will demand repayment in a hard currency (e.g., the soon-to-be-back-for-a-return-engagement DM) rather than our Monopoly money.

Posted by: Ken at September 22, 2011 12:32 PM (3ar4L)

111 Thank You ArthurK for posting this. I've long argued to no avail that most people simply do not know what billion or trillion even mean. Ask them and some will say a trillion is like 10 billion or so. No joke. I've had to train people for jobs that required some on the fly arithmetic, and to my horror, most people cannot do any kind of multiplication or division in their heads.. especially division for some reason. The calculator has actually made people butt stupid. Really damn stupid

Republicans should put this breakdown into their political ads. I think if average people saw this, they would be PISSED.

OT: but I hope with wikipedia, our society doesn't become information stupid, the way the calculator has made them math stupid. Unfortunately I see its already happening. People with wiki on their android are always the smartest people around.. without it, they couldn't tell you what year we declared independence.

Posted by: Billy Barty at September 22, 2011 01:00 PM (LqEzN)

112 The interest needs to be added to those figures, too, because it underlines just how unsustainable this is. I donÂ’t feel like doing math right now because I just got back from lunch. But I did it for $100,000 a while back (see link in name): Â“If this were an individual making the very nice salary of $100,000 a year, theyÂ’d be spending $175,000 a year, and $20,000 of that would be just interest on the debt. And theyÂ’d be $665,000 in debt.Â”

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (QF8uk)

113 Once you remove all the zeroes, the $16 donuts are really reasonable.

Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 22, 2011 01:12 PM (QKKT0)

114 Dave Ramsey would say that was soluble - but if the REAL indebtedness were to be revealed ($100 trillion for Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security), then he might say they were bankrupt, because they'd owe a million, not $150 K.

Posted by: ExExZonie at September 22, 2011 01:56 PM (f1xfk)

115 all it is really they want the money back in banks same goes for england noones in debt they just want the money back and it does not matter how much it costs for example people loosing jobs then homes then family breakups then on streets then crime goes up then people getting killed goes on a rise it is a skimming stone on water effect back to the 30s

Posted by: nigel halling at September 22, 2011 02:16 PM (rc9Gy)

116 Neither the Republican's or Democrats are going to really do anything to actually fix the problem. Heck, they won't even make a half-hearted effort to try and fix it.

The only thing to do is wait until it all collapses and try to begin the long painful generational process to recover.

Might as well learn to play the fiddle and enjoy the flames because we're in for a long cold night.

As a Stark might say,"Winter is coming."

Posted by: That's Mr Hobbit to you at September 22, 2011 03:54 PM (sbaXF)

117 Typical Dem Politician: Our real problem is that we aren't spending enough

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2011 04:37 PM (2DwHd)

118 Thanks for sharing, please keep an update about this info. love to read it more. i like this site too much.

Posted by: The Detachment AudioBook at September 22, 2011 05:56 PM (+uroR)

119 Actually that doesn't quite capture it, its not that serious, but it is still bad. It doesn't show US GDP, which really is the total income pool available and 38,000 for a family of 4 includes some real necessities and doesn't seem like there is a lot of wasteful spending going on.

I think this captures it exactly including the necessity of the spending:

Annual family income: $150,000 (US GDP 15t)
Daughter's budget for college: $21,700
Money the Daughter spent: $38,200
New debt (this year) on the credit card: $16,500
Outstanding balance on the credit card: $142,710
Budget cuts: $3

There may be enough money left in the pot to send the daughter more money for college, but that isn't the answer, its not going to help you, and its not going to help the daughter either.

Posted by: Kazinski at September 23, 2011 11:16 AM (HPhbp)

120 The Tea Party illustrated this well. We produced a similar short piece on what our budget deficit looks like compared to a monthly household budget. Either way, the numbers are astounding. More on my blog at http://bit.ly/p1iuQe

Posted by: Jason Griffin at September 27, 2011 05:21 PM (aOJnV)

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