1 Europe is about to crash and burn and take another 500B of our printed fiat money with it.

2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

3 Europe is about to crash and burn and take another 500B of our printed fiat money with it.

Oh, is that all?  Why are we worried then?

4 A song for Europe.

5 I am not holding my breath for any public apology to Thatcher, or any of the other intelligent politicians who foresaw this.

6 The EU is a Stuttering Clusterf*ck of a Miserable Failure.

Barky as well.

7 The problem is that these weenies have won and they've effectively shut down most of the opposition.  It's no different from the old feudal system and, I'm afraid, it will take the same skills and tool kit to change.

8

You know, for all the justified bitching we Yanks do about the MFM, I can only imagine what would happen if we had to pay a tv tax for the privilege of owning a tv with that tax going directly to MSNBC.  Fire pretty tv tax bad.

I've always thought it hilarious that those on the Left who think they are so smart cannot be arsed to exercise the slightest intellectual curiosity to determine the philosophical underpinnings of the beliefs of those of an opposing political view.  OMG RACIST ELEVENTY is so much easier, after all.

9 I'm more solvent than Solyndra!

10 The BBC is Nationalist Peoples republic Radio (NPR) on crack.  See what eating shitty food does to your brain?

blood pudding my ass.

11 We'll be happy to help out with any discomfort caused by the current situation.

12 What is telling is that the Spectator brings this up now, before the official end of the Euro.  Usually, the press waits until after the fact (or election) to point out reality.

13 He's picking on the BBC but I submit that we have many worthy media outlets as well.  Take CBS, for example, their eye logo is a clearly reminiscent of the Eye of Mordor and yet the elite continue to believe them.

14 The EU, in general, is a failure.  I could write a dissertation on it, but if I was awarded a PhD in political science or economics (either would be warranted), I'd place it right next to the roll of toilet paper in the engineering building where I teach as it would be put to better use there.

15 "The Euro Crisis?  Oh yes, that.  How do we get in Europe get machines for the elites to have our trousers pressed like Obama's?  We are currenlty bullocksed on that but my Minister are currently working on that crisis."

16 It will be good when the EU collapses and I sincerely hope it does.  The sooner the better.  It reinstates pre-20th century monarchical totalitarian rule only with a higher number of totalitarians.  Of course our own political class might still ignore the lessons of this evil system just as they've done with socialism in which case we're boned anyway.

17 "I can only imagine what would happen if we had to pay a tv tax for the privilege of owning a tv with that tax going directly to MSNBC." We have something similar: It's collected by cable companies and paid to ESPN. Matter-of-fact hard leftism permeates their broadcasts, and that shifts sports fans without much awareness about politics to the left.

18 Speaking of CBS, incidentally, did you notice a few days ago that in their story about the Gunwalker tapes that they proudly mentioned that they had broken the Fast and Furious story back in February?  Yeah, CBS has been on Fast and Furious like Ace on Wanker Wiener.

19 From the sidebar:

SCOAMF Prepares To Revamp No Child Left Behind. By waiving requirements like ensuring every child be proficient in reading and math.

Ah, so he wants to make it more like an Ivy League law school. \oblig

Sorry.  Had to be done.  Carry on.

20 Why are you so against the Euro, ace? Why is it such a bad idea in principle? It'd be the same as if I opened a joint checking account with the 30 Mexicans squatting in the abandoned house next door, the crack whore on the corner and the retarded boy who bags groceries down at the Piggly Wiggly. We could all write checks, sure. But we could also all make deposits! Oooooooh. Never mind.

21 Never forget that educated and wise are not the same thing.  Just ask Prezadent Short Bus.

22 Socialism is failing in Europe because they didn't do it right.

- John F. Kerry (Vietnam Vet)

23 Come on, Cohaagen! You got what you want. Give those people air!   -435.97 (-3.92%)

24 Spengler in Aisa Times Online said it best, when he pointed out that the Euro would survive until the German taxpayer realized he was paying for the inflated public pension of the Greek, and had no vote in the matter.

25 14 The EU, in general, is a failure.  I could write a dissertation on it, but if I was awarded a PhD in political science or economics (either would be warranted), I'd place it right next to the roll of toilet paper in the engineering building where I teach as it would be put to better use there.

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:48 PM (x3YFz)

I believe I have dryer lint that has earned a PhD in polisci.  I really have to clean out that trap before I do laundry again.

26 You little people should really learn to respect your betters.  Now where'd that little firecracker of a maid run off to?

27 Come on, Cohaagen! You got what you want. Give those people air!   -435.97 (-3.92%)

Don't worry.  Bernanke's on it.

28 You wrote "euro" and "swindle" like they were 2 different things.

29

You know, for all the justified bitching we Yanks do about the MFM, I can only imagine what would happen if we had to pay a tv tax for the privilege of owning a tv with that tax going directly to MSNBC.  Fire pretty tv tax bad.

I've always thought it hilarious that those on the Left who think they are so smart cannot be arsed to exercise the slightest intellectual curiosity to determine the philosophical underpinnings of the beliefs of those of an opposing political view.  OMG RACIST ELEVENTY is so much easier, after all.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 22, 2011 01:42 PM (VtjlW)

Sounds like National Public Radio

30

Yeah.  What he said.

31 The sooner Europe collapses the faster our own politicians and the clueless zombies in academia have to reckon with the fact socialism doesn't work. They've had a raging hard on for three quarters of a century for us to "be more like Europe", thus when Europe implodes there has to be a catharsis on their part or at least a major discrediting of anyone pushing Euro-fetishism.

32

It was said best by Bertold Brecht after the 1953 East German rising was put down.

The government should simply dissolve the people and elect another one.

That is exactly what the English government did. It completely opened its doors to immigrants who then voted for Labour or Lib Dems.

 

We should be so wise to learn from this before it is too late.

 

33 OT: If you took away the factories, would you still have police forces?

If you took away the police forces, would you still have factories?

Logic is not a class in the Social Justice Department at Harvard

34 But the Euro is a perfect example of the liberal's ignorance of the world around him.

We have borders and fences and various languages because people are different. Society has spent tens of thousands of years creating itself, and these super-national fanbois want to change it into something foreign and uncomfortable and destabilizing. The Franc is different than the Mark which is different than the Lira -- because the French are different than the Germans who are different than the Italians. Not better or worse necessarily, but different nonetheless.

35

The Buffet Rule – a synopsis:  All you can eat shit.

36 The sooner Europe collapses the faster our own politicians and the clueless zombies in academia have to reckon with the fact socialism doesn't work. They've had a raging hard on for three quarters of a century for us to "be more like Europe", thus when Europe implodes there has to be a catharsis on their part or at least a major discrediting of anyone pushing Euro-fetishism.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 01:54 PM (ijjAe)

No, they don't have to reckon any such thing.

Its failure in every area it has been tried is well documented for two hundred years at least.

37 Seriously, EVERYONE CLICK THROUGH AND READ THIS.

Especially today, as we see yet another major Eurozone market meltdown.

Great stuff.  Read it this morning, from Instapundit. (Incidentally, the Telegraph has its own daily, minute-by-minute DOOM blog that's must-read for anyone interested in the financial crisis...they've really become the go-to UK online newspaper these days, since the Times hid itself behind a paywall.)

38 I imagine the German people were getting pretty tired of the whiny, spoiled, petulant Greeks - not to mention the juvenile angst of the PIIGS

39 In other news:

"UNITED NATIONS (AP) — American diplomats walked out of the U.N. General Assembly as Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivered a fiercely anti-American speech.

More than a dozen diplomats from other countries, including France, left the chamber soon afterward.

Ahmadinejad attacked the United States for history of slavery, causing two world wars, using a nuclear bomb against "defenseless people," and imposing and supporting military dictatorships and totalitarian regimes on Asian, African and Latin American nations."

It would have been a totally different world if we hadn't assassinated the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and bombed Pearl Harbor.

40 SCOAMF Prepares To Revamp No Child Left Behind. By waiving requirements like ensuring every child be proficient in reading and math.

Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2011 01:50 PM (73tyQ) 

So if you drop the "Left Behind" part you are left with "No Child"

Sounds like their abortion policy.

41

The Buffet Rule – a synopsis:  All you can eat shit.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 22, 2011 01:55 PM (jx2j9)

That picture......does he fucki*g take the teleprompters to BED with him?

42 I say we take the troops out of Iraq, and invade France.  They will surrender, and we get the French girls.  Viva la armpits!

43

I've always thought it hilarious that those on the Left who think they are so smart cannot be arsed to exercise the slightest intellectual curiosity to determine the philosophical underpinnings of the beliefs of those of an opposing political view.  OMG RACIST ELEVENTY is so much easier, after all.

Posted by: alexthechick at September 22, 2011 01:42 PM (VtjlW)

They are simply not capable of intellectual curiosity. They are mentally lazy to the point of atrophy, and intend to stay that way.

44 >>>A song for Europe.

Nah, that's bullshit.  Here's the REAL "Song For Europe": http://tinyurl.com/cenz4k

45 "I could write a dissertation on it..."

Posted by: tangonine at September 22, 2011 01:48 PM (x3YFz)

And it would be easy, because there wouldn't be much in the way of data and experimentation and analysis.

Sort of like dropping a deuce and then smearing it onto some paper -- and almost as valuable.

46 "Sounds like their abortion policy." Heh. Reminds me of that Captain Ramius "one ping only" joke.

47

Ahmadinejad attacked the United States for history of slavery, causing two world wars, using a nuclear bomb against "defenseless people," and imposing and supporting military dictatorships and totalitarian regimes on Asian, African and Latin American nations."

It would have been a totally different world if we hadn't assassinated the Archduke Franz Ferdinand and bombed Pearl Harbor.

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 22, 2011 01:57 PM (Hx5uv)

So, he's thinking that HE wouldn't be speaking German right now would we not have dropped those bombs?

Oh, and F*CK him.

48 the French are different than the Germans who are different than the Italians.

It's like a mosaic.  The French supply the wine, the Italians the pizza, and the Germans the ovens. 

49 @43 Ok iced sweet tea thru my nose

50 #44, It's always easier to quote Marx than to actually have any real understand of economics.

51 So, he's thinking that HE wouldn't be speaking German right now would we not have dropped those bombs?

Oh, and F*CK him.

Posted by: © Sponge at September 22, 2011 01:59 PM (UK9cE)

Yawn.  You can put a thug in a nice suit and pretend he's a diplomat but he's still a thug.

Even he doesn't believe that stuff. If he did, he would be more afraid of us.

52 Next Headline:  The Great Dollar Swindle

53 It's always easier to quote Marx than to actually have any real understand of economics.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:00 PM (ijjAe)

It worked for Karl, didn't it?

You may fool other people, you may fool yourself, but you can never fool reality. It will hold you to account.

54

The left is like a frilled lizard, going around all huffing and puffing goading people to do their bidding. The question is how far are we willing to be goaded?

55 Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:00 PM (ijjAe)

Amazing, isn't it? Marx's theory of the value of labor is so fucking stupid and counter-intuitive that the first time I read it I was honestly surprised that anyone would actually think he was a real thinker.

Yes, I was young and naive.

56 It's always easier to quote Marx than to actually have any real understand of economics.

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:00 PM (ijjAe)

That's the best tastin pickle I evah hoid......

57 If he did, he would be more afraid of us.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 22, 2011 02:01 PM (z1N6a)

Amanutjob has nothing to fear from us until 2013 (and maybe beyond that if the 52% stay true to form).

58 14 The EU, in general, is a failure.  I could write a dissertation on it, but if I was awarded a PhD in political science or economics (either would be warranted), I'd place it right next to the roll of toilet paper in the engineering building where I teach as it would be put to better use there.

A dissertation? You could get multiple higher degrees in economics and the various social sciences by writing dissertations on how the EU is a failure, even from merely describing the rationale for the EU's very existence. 

Forgive me for repeating this ad infinitum (kudos to the Apostle Paul for writing this in Revelation), but I love this rough summary of why the EU was doomed to fail from the start - you cannot mix iron (countries like Germany) with clay (countries like Greece). 

59 People should sue these media types that create the atmosphere of swells that promote bad ideas like the Euro or Obama for the trillions of dollars in damages that they've done.

60

The left is like a frilled lizard, going around all huffing and puffing goading people to do their bidding. The question is how far are we willing to be goaded?

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 02:03 PM (I/MzF)

HEY!!!!!  Leave me OUT of this!!

61
Funny thing.

If I put Achmadinijihad, Elizabeth Warren, Michael Moore, and Al Franken in a bag and shook 'em up, they'd all come out the same.

There is no difference from the bile spewed from Achmadinijihad's mouth than the shit you hear from Democrats.

62 thus when Europe implodes there has to be a catharsis on their part or at least a major discrediting of anyone pushing Euro-fetishism.

The left has a disease similar to Tourette Syndrome. At first glance they look like everybody else and suddenly they start yelling commie talking points. There won't be a catharsis since there is no known cure.

63 I have a simple question for leftards: If you have a bottle of fine wine, and a bottle of piss, and you pour yourself half a glass of fine wine, then top it off with piss, did you ruin the wine, or improve the piss?

64 Forgive me for repeating this ad infinitum (kudos to the Apostle Paul for writing this in Revelation), but I love this rough summary of why the EU was doomed to fail from the start - you cannot mix iron (countries like Germany) with clay (countries like Greece). 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at September 22, 2011 02:04 PM (9hSKh)

I think Aesop beat even that with the Ant and the Grasshopper

65
and here we gooooooooooo

66 So, he's thinking that HE wouldn't be speaking German right now would we not have dropped those bombs?

Remember,  Hitler had a pretty big Muslim outreach thing going - the Mufti of Jerusalem actually came up with the idea of the "final solution".

67 63

The left is like a frilled lizard, going around all huffing and puffing goading people to do their bidding. The question is how far are we willing to be goaded?

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 22, 2011 02:03 PM (I/MzF)

HEY!!!!! Leave me OUT of this!!

Posted by: Charles's Johnson at September 22, 2011 02:05 PM (UK9cE) 

 

I tried but your frills gave you away.

 

68 The Euro paid my tuition at Harvard !!   Obama speaks for me !!!

69 I'm doing you a favor as I'm taking all your money.....

70 50 the French are different than the Germans who are different than the Italians.

It's like a mosaic.  The French supply the wine, the Italians the pizza, and the Germans the ovens. 

Posted by: WalrusRex at September 22, 2011 02:00 PM (Hx5uv)

 

And Jews the Soap and Lampshades!  This is fun...

71
here's our new plan:

We invest a trillion dollars to manufacture thousands of corporate jets. It will provide good union jobs with good union wages.

Here's the best part. We tax these jets at 95%.

Win win!

72

Europe is essentially Germans and a smattering of everyone else.

They are the lynchpin of Europe. The Euro will be done when they decide they no longer wish to bankroll the EU

73 2 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 01:40 PM (8y9MW)

FIFY. Morons need it spelled out. 

I really wish we'd have commie trials like we had nazi trials. And hold the greenies to account for all the people who have died because of their policies too.

74 The Euro's have a sweet deal. We pay for their Defense and they fuck us at every turn. Sweet deal

75 Hitler would have let the English keep their language--and most of their Empire

Adolf had a serious Schadenboner for the Brits; wanted them to continue carrying the White Man's Burden in the dusky countries, while he was busy colonizing Eurasia

76 Next time you see a liberal, ask them if they have any money.  If they say yes, then tell him to give it to any random guy walking along at the time.

If they complain, ask if why not?  If it's good enough for Obamanomics, why not you?

I like that.

77 Keep diving like this, and the Dow Jones will find Davy Jones.

78 Get to the chopppaaa!!! DJIA -440.78

79 "I've always thought it hilarious that those on the Left who think they are so smart cannot be arsed to exercise the slightest intellectual curiosity to determine the philosophical underpinnings of the beliefs of those of an opposing political view. OMG RACIST ELEVENTY is so much easier, after all." Posted by: alexthechick at September 22, 2011 01:42 PM (VtjlW) You know, it's not that really. They do investigate the philosophical underpinnings of opposing points of view. But they really truly and honestly think that racism (or actually, fear of the OTHER) is THE underlying psychobabble reason for every action and belief, so when they do examine the underpinnings they ask "how is it that those right-wingers turned this belief into racism?"

80 kudos to the Apostle Paul for writing this in Revelation

*ahem*

81 Italians don't eat pizza, except maybe as an appetizer

so, watch out for guys in Italian cities yelling, "Pizza, pizza" at passing tourists

82 Casey Jones

83 7 The problem is that these weenies have won and they've effectively shut down most of the opposition.  It's no different from the old feudal system and, I'm afraid, it will take the same skills and tool kit to change.Posted by: rabidfox at September 22, 2011 01:42 PM (K3LDv)

Investing in longbow futures are looking real good right now ...

84 The drudge headlines are more scary than usual today.

And speaking of headlines, the sidebar about the yellow cake;  is it just me or does anybody else secretly wish that it is yellow cake and it was transferred there by saddam hussein.

Not that BBC or NBC would ever let us know.

85 Marx's theory of the value of labor [...]

You know what's even more amazing? Adam Smith rebutted the whole argument 70 years before.

Research ... how does it F'ing work?

86

Investing in longbow futures are looking real good right now ...

Posted by: No Whining at September 22, 2011 02:15 PM (Wqfrr)

You mean crossbow futures....

87 87 kudos to the Apostle Paul for writing this in Revelation

*ahem*

My apologies, John.  In my defense, you guys have both 4 letters in your name! 

88 Investing in longbow futures are looking real good right now ...

I'm spending Sunday learning how to assemble arrows. No lie.

89 Just in time for Bernanke's latest printing press release of more fraudulent fiat fiasco financial fuckyou "funds" (F⁶). 

But of course, bail-out bernanke to the globalist pirates "rescue".

90 even at the Daily Telegraph it was difficult to get non-tainted news

There was one good columnist, whose name I forget, and one stringer in Harare, Zimbabwe who mostly complained about the rising price of Scotch

91 19 From the sidebar:
SCOAMF Prepares To Revamp No Child Left Behind. By waiving requirements like ensuring every child be proficient in reading and math.
Ah, so he wants to make it more like an Ivy League law school. \oblig
Sorry.  Had to be done.  Carry on.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 22, 2011 01:50 PM (73tyQ)

Since the requirements will be waived, teachers will have less onerous work and their pay raises ought to be waived, also.

92 Adolf had a serious Schadenboner for the Brits

So did Kaiser Bill.

German's naval buildup prior to World War One was an attempt to forge an alliance with Britain to screw over France and forge a greater colonial empire. Of course Britain wasn't happy with sharing the seas and in the meantime uncharacteristically became best friends with their old enemy France. So this plan naturally backfired. Germany thought they could be allies with the British and Russian Empires, but successful French diplomacy, SCOAMF quality German diplomacy, and Kaiser Bill's unstable personality pretty much doomed that idea, thus setting the stage for World War One.

93 At least when you owned worthless stock certificates or currency, you could wipe you backside with them. Now, it's just figures on a screen. I do not recommend wiping away your skidmarks with a laptop.

94 I'm John AND Paul  ( not a Beatle )

95 You know, for all the justified bitching we Yanks do about the MFM, I can only imagine what would happen if we had to pay a tv tax for the privilege of owning a tv with that tax going directly to MSNBC.  Fire pretty tv tax bad.

GE is still a major stakeholder in AMessNBC.


....and why again did GE get that "rebate" on taxes from the SCoaMF??

96 My apologies, John.  In my defense, you guys have both 4 letters in your name!

Hey, Man, I was one of the founders! Paul was a neo-apostle.

97 Lizzy Warren has everybody fired up today.  I think parts of that thread will show up in every post today.  I guess that happens when libs forget themselves and actually tell what they really think.  She hasn't learned yet, you can do that on the Haaavaad campus, but not as a candidate.

98 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!


Sorry.  Tension breaker.  Had to be done.

99 I'm John AND Paul  ( not a Beatle )

Yeah. Weren't you in Led Zeppelin?

100 Dow is on track for a 500 point dive today. Ow!

101 John Paul

That's a 2 X 4!  They are showing up more the closer we get to Mayan 2012.

102

For those of you saying "it will be a good thing when the EU collapses"....keep in mind that there's been massive muslim migration into Europe now that any reformation will have to deal with. Expect entire communities (ie: suburbs of Paris) to demand Shari law. To hell with tradition, or history, or right and wrong.

Like divorce from someone you used to love, there's no going back and starting  over with expectations of making it work this time or sidestepping the mistakes that led to failure the last time. The reality of the failure will insure that moving forward is totally cut off from whatever worked before as well as whatever caused the failure.

The opportunity for new starts will be paid for with the lost value of property, and pensions and whole lives. God help them all.

103 Sorry.  Tension breaker.  Had to be done.

I thought it was supposed to be spelled, KHAAAAAAAAAN!

104 Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:19 PM (ijjAe)

much truth there is in this...    I think, though, that the Brits and Frogs had united against Germany by the whole Morocco Unpleasantness in the early 1900s, and even earlier than that while cooperating in divvying up Africa

Like most relationships, the Germans loved the Brits more than vice versa

105 Mebbe' a little off topic...

I just heard a Jim-Dandy reason, on FOXNews, for taxes.. You know, all the services provided by gov't and so-forth.

But, it didn't answer the question, why we need to RAISE taxes.

106 110

For those of you saying "it will be a good thing when the EU collapses"....keep in mind that there's been massive muslim migration into Europe now that any reformation will have to deal with. Expect entire communities (ie: suburbs of Paris) to demand Shari law. To hell with tradition, or history, or right and wrong.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 22, 2011 02:22 PM (2uovW)

Zis is nothing new... a whiff of grapeshot is all zat iz needed..

107 I'm John AND Paul  ( not a Beatle )

Yeah. Weren't you in Led Zeppelin?

I get around, Pal.

108 Yeah. Weren't you in Led Zeppelin?

Posted by: Meiczyslaw at September 22, 2011 02:21 PM (bjRNS)

ask me when The Drugs finally wear off...

109 Posted by: Apostle John gettin' uppity at September 22, 2011 02:21 PM (4Kl5M)

So, if John was "The Disciple Jesus Loved" was there a Disciple Jesus merely tolerated?  If so, doesn't that give the Great Commission a whole different tone?

"GO! Ye therefore into all the world..."

110 But, it didn't answer the question, why we need to RAISE taxes.

Posted by: franksalterego at September 22, 2011 02:23 PM (7/sDI)

Well, because they need to spend MORE, silly.

111 @ 106 A "Summer School" reference. Exquisite.

112 108 Dow is on track for a 500 point dive today. Ow!

Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:22 PM (ijjAe)

457.09 and falling. It's about to fall beneath the low for the year.

113 I love this rough summary of why the EU was doomed to fail from the start - you cannot mix iron (countries like Germany) with clay (countries like Greece).

Tell that to the dream interpreter Daniel in Nebuchadnezzar's ancient Iraq.

114 I thought it was supposed to be spelled, KHAAAAAAAAAN!

Different movie.

115 Dow is on track for a 500 point dive today. Ow! Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston training for the ONT mudwrestling match at September 22, 2011 02:22 PM (ijjAe) That oughta be good for obama's re-election????

116 Wolverines!!

(Still enjoying the re-watch of that last night and wondering why no one's done a remake but replaced the Russians/Cubans with the government.) Wasn't it someone here who first made that suggestion?

117 122 I thought it was supposed to be spelled, KHAAAAAAAAAN!

Different movie.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) is tired beyond tired of the trolls at September 22, 2011 02:26 PM (8y9MW)

ADDDRRRRIIIIAAAAAAAAANNNNNN!!!!

118 Tell that to the dream interpreter Daniel in Nebuchadnezzar's ancient Iraq.

You do remember where the rock struck the statue, yes?

119 ALDERAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!!

120 So, if John was "The Disciple Jesus Loved" was there a Disciple Jesus merely tolerated?  If so, doesn't that give the Great Commission a whole different tone?

Peter? Is that you?

121 REMEMBER when that band EUROPE played that song called THe Final Countdown?

122 93 You mean crossbow futures....
Posted by: KG at September 22, 2011 02:17 PM (LD21B)

No, longbows ... Crecy and Agincourt ... of course it helped that the adversaries were the French.

123 128 So, if John was "The Disciple Jesus Loved" was there a Disciple Jesus merely tolerated?  If so, doesn't that give the Great Commission a whole different tone?

Peter? Is that you?

Posted by: THE Apostle John at September 22, 2011 02:28 PM (4Kl5M)

Screw you guys.

124 I've got about 40 Euro in spare change at home so I'm hoping it holds out until Nov. 28 (the day after I return from Thanksgiving in Munich).  40 Euro will take care of 2 nights at my favorite Munich goth club.

125 You do remember where the rock struck the statue, yes?

Yep. Daniel 2:

43 And just as you saw the iron mixed with baked clay, so the people will be a mixture and will not remain united, any more than iron mixes with clay

34 While you were watching,

    44 In the time of those kings,

a rock was cut out, but not by human hands. It struck the statue on its feet of iron and clay and smashed them. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver and the gold were broken to pieces at the same time and became like chaff on a threshing floor in the summer, but the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth. The God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms. The wind swept them away, but it will itself endure forever.

[On the refiner's fire, check out Jeremiah and Isaiah: None shall be spared. Whether that's the so-called "rapture" is another speculation. Those who flee into the mountains will cry for the stones to fall on them. Perhaps one could speculate that the refiner's fire applies to a saving/gaining eternal life by laying down the mortal.]

126

SFGoth....you have a "favorite" Munich Goth Club?

There's actually more than one???

I think  the US got over Goth right after.....Disco.

127 I've got about 40 Euro in spare change at home...

not worth the monetary value I got in the trade.

128 131 128 So, if John was "The Disciple Jesus Loved" was there a Disciple Jesus merely tolerated?  If so, doesn't that give the Great Commission a whole different tone?

Peter? Is that you?

Posted by: THE Apostle John at September 22, 2011 02:28 PM (4Kl5M)

Screw you guys.

 

I thought it was James, his brother. WTF do I know?

129

@136, 131, 128

I am hearing Robin Williams in my head  "Is is me, Jesus?"

130 I thought it was James, his brother. WTF do I know?

James wasn't a Disciple until after the Ascension.

131 I thought it was James, his brother. WTF do I know?

James wasn't a Disciple until after the Ascension.

Unless you meant James the brother of John.  Dang, the fact that so many had the same name gets confusing some time.  I mean, really- to Judas up there: Which Judas?  I can think of 3 off the top of my head.

132 Posted by: MrObvious at September 22, 2011 02:42 PM (2uovW)

Teutonic thrash metal bands come to mind, along with the Norse mythology in pop culture. Just a guess, but Goth has a lot more to do with Bavaria's heritage given its role in the Holy Roman Empire than Goth's neo architectural style revisited by an homage to vampires by teenybop freaks would have permanently impacted the US.

133 James wasn't a Disciple until after the Ascension.

Or at least, so says tradition surviving the usurper Constantine with the Sword to dictate scriptural conformity.

As if Jesus' brother wasn't part of Jesus' inner circle. Don't quote Roman Catholic dogma that Mary didn't have Joseph's children, as if that would have been evil or a threat to God. There's no scriptural reference from God's Angel telling Mary that she would only bear Jesus and no other babies.

Besides, following the Ascension, Jesus' Disciples were known as Apostles.

134

For those of you saying "it will be a good thing when the EU collapses"....keep in mind that there's been massive muslim migration into Europe now that any reformation will have to deal with. Expect entire communities (ie: suburbs of Paris) to demand Shari law. To hell with tradition, or history, or right and wrong.

Posted by: MrObvious at September 22, 2011 02:22 PM (2uovW)

They already do...the Euros don't go into those areas now

135

Sad, substitute in the word Euroskeptics" for "birther" or Reichstag fire" and you have thesame deal here.  We are no better than the Europeans.  How long ago was it that anyone who denied global warmoing was considered crazy?  How many people who question Darwin's theory are painted as idiots by people who don't even understand the word theory?

 

Commonsense is in short supply among people that have little real world experience or don't wish to admit they engage in magical thinking.

 

If you doubt it ask yourself how the majority of voters could elect a man without accomplishment or achievement of any note to the office of the president of the USA despite the evidence he was nothing but a race hustler.

136 Molon Labe - or Climate Change Denier

137 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

138 People have asked why I am so against a world currency. Think of the Euro on steroids with the volume knob turned up to 11. That's why.

139 There is no difference from the bile spewed from Achmadinijihad's mouth than the shit you hear from Democrats.

One minor difference is that he is a kidnapper who almost has control of nuclear weapons - a target to aim at - the motivation to use them and the means to deliver them. Other than that there is not much difference. Our domestic foes are not quite like our foreign enemies - close but not quite.

140

"I'm John AND Paul  ( not a Beatle )"

You got nothing on me.

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