1 Salon? People read that site?

2

The Left is going to lose it's mind when they lose the election to Perry. 

 

 

3 Rick Perry is another religious fanatic on the Right.

4

First! 

Suck it Ace, you commie-cuddler! 

5 So how will their tactics be different regarding whether they face Romney or Perry? My thinking is that with Romney, they will try to keep conservatives at home, and convince independents that he would be worse than Obama. With Perry, they know they don't have a chance in hell of keeping conservatives at home, so they will spend millions of dollars concentrating on making him "scary" to independents. I hope Perry's ready.

6 Justin Elliot is just another libtard cockholster who's going to run out of duct tape when Perry is inaugurated. I look forward to the repeated meltdowns leading up to his head bursting from PDS and the massive depression at witnessing the unprecedented landslide against the JEF'er.

7 There are some libertarians freaking out about him, already, too. Jacob Sullum at Reason trying to call his support of the amendment process "anti-federalist" because the focus of the amendments in question doesn't agree with Sullum's social politics.

8 Wow, Cornell West talks about how Brother Martin preached love and we have to as well, while we demonize conservative teabaggers and the 'rich', or something. As "Professor" West goes on to explain, Brother Martin was killed for this. The strange part was Mika's almost orgasmic, "yesssss" right after Brother West lamented Brother Martin getting shot...

Mika you bobbleheaded idiot, you're not supossed to squirt all over the set when someone talks about MLK's assassination.

9 Obama would be called "open minded" for having friends in both the Evangelical and Muslim communities.. go figger..

10 Hmmm....link fail... http://tinyurl.com/3bprhus

11 This is the "Palinization" of any primary candidate who may have a possibility of being conservative. Note that ALL the big news organizations are consistently pushing Romney right now.

Once the primary is decided they will shift to ruthlessly attacking the winner regardless of whether they are a conservative or a RINO squish.

12 Perry's response: Scoreboatd, bitches

13 A week or so ago, the network news shows were really bashinf Perry for his participation in some prayer meeting..  They are going to make him out like a crazy religious nut.

14

Next up for Justin Elliot:

Rick Perry is a womanizing homosexual! 

15 Hopefully he will spell it correctly, being a poor student and all

16 3 Rick Perry is another religious fanatic on the Right.

Posted by: tadcf at August 11, 2011 07:39 AM (CYfhH)

If this is sarcasm, leave the sarcasm to professionals, because you suck at it.   Oh, and if you are a troll, bounce off.

17 Rick Perry will not play in other states because he is from Texas, unlike Ron Paul who all my liberal and independent friends think is awesome and you guys should like totally support.

18 He clammed up real quick, though, when I noted that this was a dodge as he would never write an article "Is Obama pro-Sharia?" just because Obama knows Muslims and has said nice things about them. Thus: hack.

Oooohh...

This is the Malor I know from whence he was sweating his bar exams!

AWESOME!!!*

* I am agreeing from more than 36 NM off of the Atlantic Shelf, incase this sentiment transmission is questionable.*

19 Scoreboard Bitches!

20 What I recommend for the Morons is to disregard ANYTHING the liberal MFM says about any Republican candidate in this primary.

Since they are ALL nothing more than PR rages for the Demo-commie Party they should have no say in the Republican race what-so-ever.

IOW don't believe anything they say.

21 13 A week or so ago, the network news shows were really bashinf Perry for his participation in some prayer meeting..  They are going to make him out like a crazy religious nut.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 11, 2011 07:50 AM (UTq/I)

Praying proves you're an intolerant religious zealot!!! Unless of course you pray five times a day on a little rug facing Mecca...

22 Teh fear, it only makes me stronger

23 Nice libtard smackdown, my friend. Very efficient use of 140 characters.

24 Posted by: Bitch A New Beginning iBooks at August 11, 2011 07:54 AM (uLcvj)

Looks like the spambots are starting to pick up on our high-brow vernacular...

25 Just watched CNBC roundtable having fun at Obamas expense. They had Trump on the phone and really going after him. They will be getting a phone call soon.

26

Next month it'll be the Bilderberg Group.

After that, the People's Temple, and Branch Davidians.

Funny how guilt by association only works one way, not 20 years of listenin to Jeremiah Wright and hanging with Bill Ayers.

I guess those weren't "interesting"

27

A simple word swap shows that Elliot's not just a hack, but a *racist* hack.

"He said he was just pointing out how "striking" it is that Perry is friendly with some Muslims and that Perry had praised some Muslim scholars."

Try: "He said he was just pointing out how "striking" it is that Perry is friendly with some Blacks and that Perry had praised some Black scholars."

Or: "He said he was just pointing out how "striking" it is that Perry is friendly with some Jews and that Perry had praised some Jewish scholars."

Or: "He said he was just pointing out how "striking" it is that Perry is friendly with some Christians and that Perry had praised some Christian scholars."  

28 3 Rick Perry is another religious fanatic on the Right. Posted by: tadcf at August 11, 2011 07:39 AM (CYfhH) He's got an accent! Besides, he's just governor of a tiny, underpopulated and insignificant state... it's simply outlandish to think that a governor of Texas could ever be elected president! Oh, wait...

29 If we elect a Texan President of these United States, why... why... the Obamabots will all head for the Canadian border! Starting with Matt Damon!!!

30 Rick Perry's toenail fungus > Barry Soetoro.

31 Rick Perry is another religious fanatic on the Right.
Posted by: tadcf at August 11, 2011 07:39 AM (CYfhH)

For those keeping score, holding a prayer breakfast = religious fanatic

Building a mosque near where your religion massacred three thousand innocent people = freedom of speech.

I don't know why the left considers the right more of a threat to them than Muslims, but they do.

32 Amateur Webzine Salon.com

33

So being friendly with "some Muslims" makes one suspect.

Having an actual terrorist ghost write your memoirs is a sign of enlightenment.

The worst outcome of Watergate was not the political trauma done to the nation, it was the legacy of dipshits like Elliot thinking that they are going to be the next Woodward or Bernstein.

34 What was that DiT? Some sources in the Texas Democratic party say Perry frequented the Waco compound for gay sex with underage boys, escaping hours before the final assault having set the pyrotechnics and satisfied his unholy urges one last time, whats even worse his parting shot at a coyote may have triggrred the ATF assault.

35

IowaHawk question for Obama during his Twitter Town Hall

When you create jobs, why do always create them for Texas?

 

 

36 I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.

37 35Rick Perry's toenail fungus > Barry Soetoro.

Posted by: toby928™ at August 11, 2011 08:05 AM (GTbGH)

 

You're setting the bar pretty low. 

38 A week or so ago, the network news shows were really bashing Perry for his participation in some prayer meeting..  They are going to make him out like a crazy religious nut.

Uhm...

(As an agnostic)

What's that whole thing about atheists and fox-holes?

I'll bet there are WAY more average people praying to God right now to keep them an theirs safe, than are discussing whether or not Sartre and the Existentialists were correct that Hell is other people and therefore we ALL deserve to smoke in ennoui..

So long as you don't support Sharia or MARXISM, I don't give a rat's ass about your theology!

Really, least of my fuckin' concerns...

"Bible thumping 'American Taliban'", my ASS!

I don't believe it.

Not for a second!

39

Some sources in the Texas Democratic party say Perry frequented the Waco compound for gay sex with underage boys, escaping hours before the final assault having set the pyrotechnics and satisfied his unholy urges one last time, whats even worse his parting shot at a coyote may have triggrred the ATF assault.

He also drinks Coors and not Shiner Bock.  Might have once watched a French movie without subtitles.  Does not know who the President of Zanzibar is.  Presides over devastating droughts.  Is governor of a state where the Houston Astros play.  Is a rabid mysoginist as his refusal to lsoe to Kay Bitchy Hutchison indicates.

40 33 Looks like the spambots are starting to pick up on our high-brow vernacular...
Posted by: mugiwara, jihobbit extremist at August 11, 2011 07:57 AM (KI/Ch)

You're mean Curious?

41 39 What was that DiT? Some sources in the Texas Democratic party say Perry frequented the Waco compound for gay sex with underage boys, escaping hours before the final assault having set the pyrotechnics and satisfied his unholy urges one last time, whats even worse his parting shot at a coyote may have triggrred the ATF assault.

Finally a candidate Barney Frank can wholeheartedly support. Well as long as Perry was smoking pot at the time.

42 Uhm...

(As an agnostic)

What's that whole thing about atheists and fox-holes?

I'll bet there are WAY more average people praying to God right now to keep them an theirs safe, than are discussing whether or not Sartre and the Existentialists were correct that Hell is other people and therefore we ALL deserve to smoke in ennoui..

So long as you don't support Sharia or MARXISM, I don't give a rat's ass about your theology!

Really, least of my fuckin' concerns...

"Bible thumping 'American Taliban'", my ASS!

I don't believe it.

Not for a second!

Posted by: Dejah T. Baggins at August 11, 2011 08:12 AM (R1GFN)

 

I KEELL YOU!!!

 

43 Blue Falcon, A hundred Carnegie-Mellon professors will jump out of windows if a spambot or porn site passes a Turing test.

44 47Uhm...

(As an agnostic)

What's that whole thing about atheists and fox-holes?

I'll bet there are WAY more average people praying to God right now to keep them an theirs safe, than are discussing whether or not Sartre and the Existentialists were correct that Hell is other people and therefore we ALL deserve to smoke in ennoui..

So long as you don't support Sharia or MARXISM, I don't give a rat's ass about your theology!

Really, least of my fuckin' concerns...

"Bible thumping 'American Taliban'", my ASS!

I don't believe it.

Not for a second!

Posted by: Dejah T. Baggins at August 11, 2011 08:12 AM (R1GFN)

I WILL KILL YOU.

45 I'm starting to get the impression that AoS is becoming a Perry Fan Club; a fair claim? If so, it's of substantial concern as there's a strong element in the tea party that would not back a profound evangelist who seeks adoration for his good Christian manners by immersing in tent revivalism and public celebrity.

Perry's neo-RINO credentials also appear to be alarming; not without a radical personality shift does one go from embracing a full-out Progressive poster boy like Al Gore, to pretending to embrace small government values. And even if Perry had a "come to Jesus" hyperradical realization, that extent of instability in his psyche alone should warn most off.

I'll preface that I know very little other than some of these fundamentalist revival tendencies (and indeed observed that if my god required 6+ hours of calling on a populist party line, dressed to the hilt with a few thousand other callers, merely to get a prayer through, I'd probably be looking for another god). But I'd suggest caution before suggesting this highly suspect candidate would be tolerable to all but the affluent, RINO country club types who want a faux populist.

46 I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.  Your strange modern comments confuse and frighten me.  I sense the urge to wear my wife's silky underwear and pretend I have boobies in front of a mirror.  Your thoughtful comments made me realize I may have a thing for little boys... and hamsters.

47 Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:22 AM (ijdDW)

I see.  Your preference is Barry.

48 Jeebus, the spam seems to be embracing the AoSHQ lifestyle...

49 Can't trust that Rick Perry. Why once he bought paint thinner at Home Depot. He's a huffer fer sure.

50 Hacktastic, huh?  Would he have been more pleased with his essay described as libelous, specious, full of tangents and followed by even stupider comments, many of which include bigotry?

You were being kind to him.

51 47Uhm...

(As an agnostic)

What's that whole thing about atheists and fox-holes?

I'll bet there are WAY more average people praying to God right now to keep them an theirs safe, than are discussing whether or not Sartre and the Existentialists were correct that Hell is other people and therefore we ALL deserve to smoke in ennoui..

So long as you don't support Sharia or MARXISM, I don't give a rat's ass about your theology!

Really, least of my fuckin' concerns...

"Bible thumping 'American Taliban'", my ASS!

I don't believe it.

Not for a second!

Posted by: Dejah T. Baggins at August 11, 2011 08:12 AM (R1GFN)

I'll pray for the Holy Spirit to help you see the truth of God's Divine Providence in the complete and eternal work of Jesus and his sacrifice for you on the cross at Gethsemane.  

 

52 That Rick Perry, he's a planet raping eco freak!

53

If so, it's of substantial concern as there's a strong element in the tea party that would not back a profound evangelist who seeks adoration for his good Christian manners by immersing in tent revivalism and public celebrity.

Your're right.  I remember that time Rick Perry broke down my door and baptized me against my will.

 

54 Good on you, Gabe.

55 Ya know I'm a Jew and I don't really give a G-D Damn if we elect an evangelist. Now we're talking an evangelist who loves America ( Unlike what we got in the White House) aren't we?

56 Gabe, please take a look at post 61 on the previous thread. I think it needs deleting.

Thanks,

JK is grossed out

57 Rick Perry. Yeah, that coyote incident? It's proof that he's a gun grabber. No seriously. You just can't trust that guy.

58 Personally, I want my candidate endorsed by Father Zakhira. All of those death fatwas give him some gravitas.

59 I see.  Your preference is Barry.

Posted by: dogfish at August 11, 2011 08:23 AM (N2yhW)

Isn't it amazing that as we draw nearer to the Iowa caucuses the number of "first time posters" who have negative shit to say about Republican candidates goes up.

60

Ya know I'm a Jew and I don't really give a G-D Damn if we elect an evangelist.

I'm just trying to figure out who our concern troll, who calls Perry an evangelist, a RINO, and a country club Republican simultaeously supports.

Seriously, Mr. Axelrod--up your troll budget because the current group are the intellectual equivalent of a slug in the presence of salt.

61 Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:22 AM (ijdDW)

What a pile of BS.  You sound like an Obama speech writer - lots of words, no substance.

62 Never mind, Gabe. It's just CoolCzech playing with his sock.

63

Gabe, he aspires to being hacktastic. 

Is it worth it to support Perry just to piss off the right people?  *taps chin*  Well, we all know what a kind, decent, generous, noble spirited person I am so the answer is obviously duh yes. 

Also, random thought of the moment, why is it that those Ebil Evangelicals are so horrible because they are against Islam but those precious little members of the Religion of Peace who lop off the heads of Christians are never portrayed as being against Christianity?  That's a mysteryriddleenigma it is.

 

64 60 Ya know I'm a Jew and I don't really give a G-D Damn if we elect an evangelist. Now we're talking an evangelist who loves America ( Unlike what we got in the White House) aren't we?     I will take an evangelist for Jesus over an evangelist for Marx anyday. Why does the left invest spiritual capital into secular decisions? They pose the greatest risk of establishing a national church in this country. They are irrational and selfish and extremely destructive.   

65 You morons need to lay off Multitude.
Huntsman needs a speech writer.

66 Listen to Multitude. He seems like a smart fellow.

67 the legacy of dipshits

That's a title keeper.
Where does the word dipshit come from?

68 @52: Oh. I see we've come to the RINO Progressivism now. "Either my candidate X (whom in my strange mental landscape where small animals others cannot see follow me, I have concluded that X is the only electable candidate), or the evil bad guy wins!"

We heard the same tactic from Obama the prior week: "Either tax increases or default." Yawn. False equivalency. Lame technique. Only tells intelligent voters that your candidate can't stand up to rational scrutiny.

Seriously, if you're unable to engage critically and thoughtfully, don't bother. You apparently don't need (and won't get) those voters who have these concerns. You can pretend all you want, as the McCaineites did, to not hear legitimate questions and serious concerns. To thinking people, such misdirection, mental absurdities, and other failures to deal with meaningful questions only further reinforce that the candidate and his supporters are intellectually and psychologically diminished.

Can anyone here explain why Perry, who openly celebrates his revivalist, fundamentalist credentials, and has a history of progressive association, should be of interest to non-bible belt tea party member? Hint: we protestants a little north of ya'll will need to be convinced.

69 67 Never mind, Gabe. It's just CoolCzech playing with his sock.

Posted by: Josef K. terrorist boggie at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (7+pP9)

I was about to fess up... I thought it was a pretty good parody of the spam...

70 70, Huntsman needs a personality.

71 Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:22 AM (ijdDW)

How's that rectal itch going? Still smearing shit all over your keyboard?

72 75 70, "Huntsman needs a personality."

Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ZDUD4)

Well, actually he has one... but it sort of flames.  All he needs is a lisp.  He gets just WAY too much attention.

73 70 -- after tonight's debate, Huntsman might pick up most of Pawlenty's staff, so there's that ...

74 You callin' Salon biased??

Matt Welch at Reason, once (that I know of) composed a sentence that contained the phrase "centrist publication Salon".  A flame war ensued when I called him on it.

75 So when will the "concerned Christian Conservatives" start posting nonstop, like in 2008, about Perry somehow not meeting their standards and the need to capitulate to Obama instead?

76 it's of substantial concern as there's a strong element in the tea party that would not back a profound evangelist who seeks adoration for his good Christian manners by immersing in tent revivalism and public celebrity.

Ooooh!

Substantial concern you say?

A "strong element" in the tea party?

Goodness!!

Not just an "evangelist" but a "profound" one ?

Oh, my!

I am curious to hear more about your views and would like to subscribe to your...

*Hey!  Check This Out!  If you stick your finger inside of your belly-button, it feels totally weird.  Eww.  No. It's weird but do it, anyways.*

77 That's a mysteryriddleenigma it is.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (VtjlW)

Excellent point.  They'll have credibility with me when we start hearing terms like Judeophobia and Christophobia thrown out towards muslims, atheists and seculars.  Until then, it's bigoted BS.

78 The Sons of Confederate Veterans are about as subversive as the Boy Scouts of  America.  This Salon guy is way off in left field.

79 Perry/Palin 2012 Now that could work!

80 Barack Obama, black racist church?  Not a problem.

81 Multitude, okay fine - You don't like his "revivalism"? Why? And try to answer without coming off as a bigot.

82 Posted by: nevergiveup at August 11, 2011 08:29 AM (i6RpT)

Bullshit. You aren't Jewish.

1. I distinctly recall a positive comment you made about guns: Jews don't like guns.
2. This is a smart military blog: Jews are anti-war.
3. Jews think that Evangelists are evil and only like Jews because of their crazy religion.
4. You didn't vote for Obama, and you don't feel guilty and racist for criticizing him.

QED

You are a filthy poseur.

83 Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ijdDW)

I'm so not wasting my time with you.  We'll just let your argument stand on its own.

84 80 So when will the "concerned Christian Conservatives" start posting nonstop, like in 2008, about Perry somehow not meeting their standards and the need to submit capitulate to Obama instead?

FIFY

85 Barack Obama, black racist church? Not a problem. Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (MMC8r) Church?

86 Can anyone here explain why Perry, who openly celebrates his revivalist, fundamentalist credentials, and has a history of progressive association, should be of interest to non-bible belt tea party member? Hint: we protestants a little north of ya'll will need to be convinced.

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ijdDW)

Well then vote for who the hell you want in the primary, *Republican*.  We'll see where the numbers go.  My guess is other 'northern protestants' aren't as terrified of 'evangelicals' as you are.

87

Some sources in the Texas Democratic party say Perry frequented the Waco compound

And then he rented a mansion just for them!!!1!

88

If you play Rick Perry's prayer rally speech backwards you hear the Beatles' song Yellow Submarine.  This phallic symbolism, blatant militarism, and racist stereotyping of asiatic peoples can mean only one thing:

Rick Perry is a warmongering sexist who desires to wipe China off the face of the planet.

89 Multitude--state your candidate or piss off.

90 84 Perry/Palin 2012 Now that could work!

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (A23u6)

I was thinking more along the lines of Perry/Pawlenty or - if Perry really wanted to go out on the edge - Perry/Bachman.    I doubt Perry would want to be "edgy," though.  He'll go with the least offensive, milquetoast option.  Pawlenty seems a natural.

91 Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ijdDW)

You're a damned liar.  You're not here to be convinced.  The reasons for voting for Perry exclusive of his religious beliefs are as stark as the reasons why Barry is unfit to be president.  Take your BS lying ass elsewhere.

92 Never mind, Gabe. It's just CoolCzech playing with his sock cock.

Posted by: Josef K. terrorist boggie at August 11, 2011 08:33 AM (7+pP9)

FIFY

93 Can anyone here explain why Perry, who openly celebrates his revivalist, fundamentalist credentials, and has a history of progressive association, should be of interest to non-bible belt tea party member? Hint: we protestants a little north of ya'll will need to be convinced.

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ijdDW)

I'm not sure why revivalist fundamentalist credentials should be a problem? 

I would like to hear more about his "history of progressive association" though.  If you mean years ago when he was a democrat, then that is not going to bother me that much, as even the most RINO republican still tries to court conservative groups.  But if you mean he has pursued "progressive" (which I read to mean liberal/socialist) policies recently and as governor I would want to know about it.

94 Can anyone here explain why Perry, who openly celebrates his revivalist, fundamentalist credentials, and has a history of progressive association, should be of interest to non-bible belt tea party member? Hint: we protestants a little north of ya'll will need to be convinced.

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:35 AM (ijdDW)

 

Let's start with half the job increase in the recession in my state, bitch

95 91 Barack Obama, black racist church? Not a problem.
Posted by: nickless at August 11, 2011 08:40 AM (MMC8r)

Church?       Yeah, some churches are otay with teh tossed salad media. If your church hates the right things, then they tend to ignore the hate or make excuses for it, or usually just ignore it.

96 Seriously, if you're unable to engage critically and thoughtfully, don't bother.

You new here, aren't you.

97 Posted by: CoolCzech at August 11, 2011 08:43 AM (kUaEF)

Perry/West 2012

98 Link to Rick Perry eval for those who haven't see it.

http://is.gd/dRZAZq

99 I saw Ron Paul last night on Fox. He went straight to the Perry was a liberal and worked for Gore meme. Most of us know that is not of consquence. However, I can see the less informed biting on that one.

100

I'm like, concerned about Rick Perry because he believes in Jesus.  I believe in Jesus too, but the way he does makes me think he's going to raise my taxes, and I'm a TEAbagger, and as we all know, TEAbaggers don't like taxes.

So seriously, shouldn't we all be afraid of Rick Perry?  Can't you all assure me he isn't the awful Christian I think he is?  Maybe we should get behind that wondeful Mitt fellow.  He looks like he could win the general!

101

and has a history of progressive association, should be of interest to non-bible belt tea party member? Hint: we protestants a little north of ya'll will need to be convinced.

I'm not even a protestant and live way north of Texas but i'd like to know why "fundamentalist" religion is a deal breaker.

 

102 From Gabriel: [Elliott] said he was just pointing out how "striking" it is that Perry is friendly with some Muslims and that Perry had praised some Muslim scholars. According to our progressive betters, we're supposed to be more tolerant and understanding of religious minorities. So here we have a Texas governor who is friendly with some people who are definitely (in the U.S.) a religious minority. For which he's slammed, of course. I'm sure the progressive mind can reconcile Elliott's apparent hypocrisy. I can't, but I'm sure they can.

103 Note to the Morons, club for growth has added Rick Perry to their list of candidates for a white paper eval. But they have laced him at the tale end of the list.

104 <<<<80 So when will the "concerned Christian Conservatives" start posting nonstop, like in 2008, about Perry somehow not meeting their standards and the need to capitulate to Obama instead? Posted by: Blue Falcon in Boston at August 11, 2011 08:39 AM (ijjAe) Well I think jeff b has dibs on this for bachmann

105 Gabe, your link to L I is broken.

106 Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 11, 2011 08:46 AM (ZDUD4)

So play up his supposed centrist leanings with the independents and the squishy undecideds. Fine. That will get him 2% in the general, enough to push him over the top.

He is right of center, is an aggressive campaigner, doesn't fuck little boys, and he hates Obama.

What's not to like?

107 107 I'm not even a protestant and live way north of Texas but i'd like to know why "fundamentalist" religion is a deal breaker.

Did you miss the comment about Rick Perry breaking a door down and baptizing the poor guy against his will?

Perry will have Air Force One and a squad of Sekrit Service Agents.
Imagine the horror.

108 Posted by: Mama AJ at August 11, 2011 08:50 AM (XdlcF)

What are you...new here?

You aren't supposed to read the links. The proper technique is to assume that you know what they say and then make wildly unsupported statements.

109 Perry scares the dog piss out of the Liberal Media - that alone is a reason to vote for him.

Of course some smart ass will point out that Charles Manson scares the dog piss out of the liberal media - should we vote for him then?

No - the reason to vote for Perry is that he scares the MFM far more than old Charlie ever did.

110 To boot Teh Bamster from office, I would vote for a Ham Sammich. Dead serious.

111 Geez, this election is going to be ugly.  Since O has nothing to run on.  They're going to go with the Big Lie.

112

To boot Teh Bamster from office, I would vote for a Ham Sammich. Dead serious.

Ham Sammich/Bind Meth-Amped Meerkat '12!!!

113

Here's the problem.  Some people say that Perry is only posing as a conservative.  That may be true.  But what is the other option?  Romney?  He is also only posing as a conservative, and he isn't even posing as all that conservative.  So, you have 2 guys both pretending to be conservative.  Who is going to stick with the "conservative" the most in office?  The guy who can't even bring himself to pretend to be any more conservative than the 1st Bush?  Or the guy pretending to be as conservative as Reagen?  My money would be on Perry staying the most conservative in office.

So who?  Pawlenty?  I just can't see that milqtoast winning (and I think he would govern as a moderate if he won, not a conservative - I don't see him standing up to the media/democrats - he just wants to be nice, for everyone to like him).  Bachman?  I like her, but am not convinced she could win or that she could handle the job.  Huntsmen?  He's not even pretending to be conservative.  Paul?  He's too wacky for my tastes.  Palin isn't running yet (and I doubt she will).  Cain?  I don't think he can win, he's way to gaffe prone and inexperienced as a politician, although I like him, but again, I'm not convinced he could handle the job. 

I don't like the field we have.  But right now, for my money (although still not officially running) Perry is the best option.

114 From the article:

Two years later, Perry spoke warmly at a dinner in Houston hosted by the Aga Khan.


Well, certainly couldn't vote for someone having dinner with those awful Aga Khan people. Whoops:


The White House

Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release
August 10, 2011
Expected Attendees at the White House Iftar Dinner

This evening, the President will continue a White House tradition of hosting an Iftar celebrating Ramadan in the State Dining Room. This is the third Iftar hosted by the President. The Iftar is the meal that breaks the day of fasting, when Muslim families and communities eat together after sunset.

Below is a list of some of the expected attendees at tonightÂ’s White House dinner celebrating Ramadan:

COMMUNITY MEMBERS
Dr. Mahmoud Eboo, Aga Khan*


*Dr. Mahmoud Eboo is the President of His Highness Prince Aga Khan Shia Imami Ismaili Council for the United States, Australia & New Zealand.

115 I am an rural Western Iowan, a life-long registered Republican who voted for Sarah Palin last election and is driving up to Ames tomorrow. We live in a community with about 1,000 people, drive Ford trucks, and increasingly battle a stinking Missouri River that hasn't been too kind to our levies. We're in Steve King's district and love him dearly (particularly when he goes a bit off script and gives people like Helen Thomas a bit of deserved humorous hell). There? That good enough for the paranoid Perry types here? Crap, you'll soon make me wear an armband and present my papers before allowing someone to post and question your candidate.

Back to the candidates, I'm not happily settled with a candidate yet for Saturday's vote. I've found Cain to be interesting but not of sufficient momentum. Bachmann seems interesting as well but I have questions. I thought I'd ask some of the Perry supporters that appear to be en masse here on the fundamentalist question as you can most certainly expect we protestants to have significant skepticism. My family and I attend a small town Congregational church and are of the type of midwestern values that there is great concern and alarm at those who parade their church participation. As one who does have a post-secondary education in critical theory (yet works in the corporate world), I am personally cautious around those who show profound needs to proclaim their religiousness to others, and do so in what appears to most others as strange excess. History has shown there is a great proclivity for such fundamentalist orientations to facilitate rather oppressive societies, and you Perry supporters have to understand that your fierce pride and big tent rallies remind a lot of us northerners of imagery from films like Mississippi Burning.

Are these accusations I'm making of Perry? Of course not! But I'm pretty sure the media has (given my prior questions), and as someone who has questions over his open revivalist orientation and progressive history, I'd sure as hell appreciate a decent answer. Otherwise, just don't worry about us outside of the bible belt for support. Or perhaps there aren't comfortable, rational answers to these questions. That's a fair answer in itself.

116 Did you miss the comment about Rick Perry breaking a door down and baptizing the poor guy against his will? Next up - Rick Perry with a water canon, a water canon filled with * holy water * -

117 Peeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyyy!!!11!!11!!

118

You aren't supposed to read the links. The proper technique is to assume that you know what they say and then make wildly unsupported statements.

Ah, you are clearly the noob here. The addendum to the rule is that if there are over 100 comments and no one has noted the broken link, you have to pretend to be polite 'n helpful while really showing your superiority and ability to use an opposing thumb to actually click on a link.

119 So multitude sucks on the ethanol tit

120

You aren't supposed to read the links. The proper technique is to assume that you know what they say and then make wildly unsupported statements.

Are the unsupported statements supposed to come in the original post or Ace's double post?

121 Posted by: kdny at August 11, 2011 08:47 AM (5dBwQ)

The fundamentalists work toward a country in which theirs is the only religion.

Religion should be completely detached from government.

Only people who believe in Christ the way they say can go to heaven?

Laws in this country are derived from the Constitution, not the bible.

Love thy neighbor, but convert him or kill him is an awful way to live.

122 Thai tranny crack whore / Dude from Deliverance 2012!

123 Next up - Rick Perry with a water canon,
a water canon filled with * holy water *

I will state my complete support for the use of water cannons filled with bourbon.

124

Hi, I'm a northeastern tea party member and Rick Perry scares the birkenstocks off me!  I am so worried that he will force me to wear a burka and black is so not my color!  I also just purchased a new Prius and the thought of not being able to drive(sharia law) to the supermarket with my burlap shopping bags just infuriates me!! Oh......and I'm also worried about out of control government spending.  Almost forgot that one!

Can someone here convince me, a northeastern tea party member, that Rick Perry is truly Christian, and that he will keep his beliefs to himself?

125

Next up - Rick Perry with a water canon,
a water canon filled with * holy water *

And that's why there were no riots in Texas.

 

Crap, you'll soon make me wear an armband

Yeh, it doesn't go around your arm, I'm afraid.

126 The title of this post is a non-sequitur. The left already lost its collective mind and did so decades ago. You can't lose what you don't have. Regarding Perry, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out the genesis of the left's obvious and increasing fear and discontent. They've already conducted internal (not for public consumption) polling of a Perry-Obama contest. Obviously the results are none to kind to their man. Hence the incessant Perry bashing from the left. They need to preempt his candidacy or, failing that, they need him not to be the nominee. Tactically speaking the left has known for decades that the demographic that votes in GOP primary contests largely is very naive, very fickle and easily can be discouraged and manipulated. As we get closer to Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina you'll begin to see "stories" and to hear "rumors" concerning Perry, all of which will emanate from the left. There'll be the obligatory "he had an affair" and "he fathered a child out of wedlock" bilge. There'll be the inevitable "his wife had an abortion" meme. They'll go after his kids, suggesting drug abuse. There'll be "anonymous sources" who will "reveal" that he accepted graft in exchange for political favors. So on, so forth. The left fears and despises Perry because Perry poses a grave threat to the media-academia-union cabal. It's literally that simple.

127

It should be noted that Perry has a much better back story than Romney.

He's essentially come from nothing and turned himself into something.

Whereas Romney was born wealthy and has remained wealthy. Don't get me wrong, Romney is an extremely intellegent and successful guy, but maybe running someone valued at several hundred million dollars in this economy isn't a good idea. Remember 2008 when such a big issue was made over john mccains 5-6 homes or in 2004  with Kerry's multiple homes.

Whereas Perry can easily relate to people who are struggling as his parents were poor texas farmers and up without money or privilige.

Everything he has, he earned on his own.

I think we shouldn't overlook cadidates backstories. They can be extremely helpful in the campaign narrative. Just look at what Obama's did for him.

128 Anyone ever tell you you have a purty mouth, Multitude?

129

History has shown there is a great proclivity for such fundamentalist orientations to facilitate rather oppressive societies, and you Perry supporters have to understand that your fierce pride and big tent rallies remind a lot of us northerners of imagery from films like Mississippi Burning.

A.  Thanks for the sterotyping of the South for things that happend 50 years ago.  You might be interested in knowing that we have the electricity, the internet, and shoes now. 

B.  I can think of a great many adjectives to describe Texas, but "oppressive" is not one of them.

C.  Get out much, Mr. Critical Thinker?

130 I hate to say this, but all the people claiming they wouldn't vote for Rick Perry b/c he is an evangelist can't possibly vote for a mormon?  If you think Rick Perry's beliefs are weird, what would you think of sacred underwear and secret temple ceremonies.  Of baptising the dead?

131 The Left only knows that it hates.  Who it hates, and why, is always a surprise to them.

132 Posted by: Mama AJ at August 11, 2011 08:57 AM (XdlcF)

You have an opposable thumb? I think you are on the wrong site.

133 And do you realize that typically fundamentalists are protestants idiot?

134 112, I can support Perry. There is something that Coolczech wrote about Palin that I somewhat agree with. That is she needs to Shit or get off the pot. I feel the same way about Perry. If you want to be POTUS, Stand your ass up and say, "I'm Running For POTUS, I'm getting my shit together right now and will be with you soon" I am sick of the Political games. Meanwhile you have a half dozen candidates that have declared and are slogging through the bullshit. I am looking hard at them right now. I think they deserve the attention.

135 Multitude - fine so you are afraid of the evangelist bogeyman. Are you an evangeliphobe?

136 Thank you for the excellent cockholster article. It is easy to come a croper fucking shinebox if you are not vigilant.

137

Are the unsupported statements supposed to come in the original post or Ace's double post?

Only a RINO would ask that. Real conservatives know the answer.

138

Rick Perry ate my homework.

 

139

Perry's Three Goal if Elected President in 2012

1. Cut friolous spending.

2. Reform Medicare and Social Security

3. Lead a new Crusade to sack Jerusalem.

140

Perry needs to be politically smart and stay away from the tent revivals.  He's going to be painted as a religious fanatic just like President Bush was.  We don't need that BS for another campaign season.

I really can't brush off Perry's college performance.  Anyone running for president should be able to AT LEAST break into the top 25% of their class at a public college.  His transcripts are terrible. 

 

141

Only a RINO would ask that. Real conservatives know the answer.

Posted by: Mama AJ at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (XdlcF)

Real conservatives wouldn't reveal that information you commie RINO.

142

You have an opposable thumb? I think you are on the wrong site.

I took it from a hobo. Duh.

143

Perry's Three Goal if Elected President in 2012

1. Cut friolous spending.

2. Reform Medicare and Social Security

3. Lead a new Crusade to sack Jerusalem.

Posted by: Ben at August 11, 2011 09:06 AM (wuv1c)

Nobody expects the American Inquisition.

144 Sorry I asked. No ethanol subsidies here; of all our farmland I've bought, we've taken it off of CRP and refused government welfare. Conservativism and small government begin at home, as does compassion.

I'm really sorry I tried here, but actually I did get an answer. When all you find around a candidate are brownshirted thugs, particularly around a candidate who appears to be uncomfortably close to first generation progressivism, it helps frame the candidate. We can't expect anything but anger, nationalist fervor, hatred and general unthinkingness from these kinds. Let's just say that from the Perry types here, I'd have to believe that their favorite day of the year is the sheet sale at Dollar General.

America's problems won't be solved by a totalitarianist post-progressive like Obama, nor will they be by any return to an earlier form. To fellow AoS'ers in Ames Saturday, best wishes!

145 ~ tap tap tap tap tap ~ Is this on? The microphone? Yes? So, you can hear me? and so, The Republican governor Rick Perry, the Democrat President Barack Obama and Aga Khan walk into a bar - who gives Aga Khan the money to place in the underwear of the strippers? President Obama - he always gives money away. Please to laugh, that is - as you say - teh funny. President Obama hosted a dinner to celebrate the start of Ramadan - that is very nice. Hadji was there to warm up the audience. This joke, it beheaded the room. What is the difference between the President's position about the gays and marriage and Islams? ... not much. thank you thank you thank you. Distribute alms to the servers.

146

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 08:55 AM (ijdDW)

Wow, you're bad at this.

Iowa, the place that propelled Huckabee to the national spotlight like a rocket propelled grenade, is going to judge Rick Perry to be too dangerous of an evangelical?

147 154, Calling them Clansman? Really? Go fuck yourself.

148 Multitude is Average Joe. Joe, you magnificent bastard! I recognized your hash! Plus, people from Iowa don't consider themselves "northerners."

149

His transcripts are terrible. 

Real conservatives know he was drinking heavily then, so it's a plus.

 

(I'm making that up, not actually claiming knowledge...but y'all knew that already, didn't ya?)

150

Anyone running for president should be able to AT LEAST break into the top 25% of their class at a public college. 

Can you incline your head a little more on the "public college" part?  I can't see your flared left nostril.

Since he has totally screwed up Texas becasue of a lack of smarts, I can see where you are coming from.  Try again.

151 Ben, you forgot : 4. Tax reform 5. Kill the Papists 6. Cut subsidies for ethanol 7. Start the next Inquisition

152 When all you find around a candidate are brownshirted thugs, particularly around a candidate who appears to be uncomfortably close to first generation progressivism, it helps frame the candidate. We can't expect anything but anger, nationalist fervor, hatred and general unthinkingness from these kinds. Let's just say that from the Perry types here, I'd have to believe that their favorite day of the year is the sheet sale at Dollar General.

America's problems won't be solved by a totalitarianist post-progressive like Obama, nor will they be by any return to an earlier form. To fellow AoS'ers in Ames Saturday, best wishes!

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 09:08 AM (ijdDW)

Do people really believe such nonsense?  And I love the claim that we are all racists.  this is just a "concern troll", concerned that we conservatives are going to pick the wrong candidate and lose the election.

Has concern trolling ever worked?  Particularly when insulting other people's religion adn calling everyone you disagree with racist and a nazi?

I guess this guy is "intelligent" and "thinking" and "conservative".  You can tell b/c he hates religious people and thinks all conservatives are racist.

153 I care less about the fact that Perry is a Bible thumper than I do about the fact that Perry is an open borders Bible thumper. 

154 I could give a shit how a candidate did in college. Those Cum in some dumpster laude harvard boys have done such a great job with the country. Show me some honor and Integrity from a life well lived and some private sector success, even if you have a GED, I'll look at you.

155 "When all you find around a candidate are brownshirted thugs, particularly around a candidate who appears to be uncomfortably close to first generation progressivism, it helps frame the candidate."

Posted by: Multitude at August 11, 2011 09:08 AM (ijdDW)

Very impressive. You have demonstrated a startlingly small and undeveloped intellect, and a well developed religious bigotry. Please be extra careful around farm machinery.

Or...well done! Whose sock is this?

156

I don't grasp why anyone would have trouble with Perry's "revivalist, fundamentalist credentials"?

Who cares? How does that affect you? Did the "revivalist fundamentalist" christians suddenly become statists or communists? Did I miss something where these "revivalist fundamentalists" want me to wear a burka, are doing honor killings, promote abortion, support communism? What's the problem?

Oh, and I would appreciate facts, not feelings.

157 @7

Yeah, well I discount anything I read from a Libertarian at this point. 

This is their last, best gasp at becoming relevant.  Their god-head is retiring and the country is as close to latching onto their misguided philosophies as they'll ever be.  I think half of the trolls and mobies we get around here are Libertarians trying to sow dissent within conservative ranks and urge people to go third party. 

158 Multitude is Average Joe.

Joe, you magnificent bastard! I recognized your hash!

Plus, people from Iowa don't consider themselves "northerners."

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 09:10 AM (lbo6/)

God damn it, Average Joe! I even did a hash search.  I should have known better.  Every time I open my heart...

159 Quit humping Average Joe's sock, people. He's laughing at you. That's how the gook laughs.

160 @166   I don't grasp why anyone would have trouble with Perry's "revivalist, fundamentalist credentials"?

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I am a Perry backer.  However, if a lot of anti-Catholic and anti-Mormon stuff surfaces from him or from his inner circle, I will have a really hard time voting for him. 

161

I really can't brush off Perry's college performance.  Anyone running for president should be able to AT LEAST break into the top 25% of their class at a public college.  His transcripts are terrible. 

Having had experience with both, it's actually easier to make good grades at the Yales, Harvards, Princetons, Dukes and Standfords of the world than at your local public college. For example, right now Princeton only has 8 week semesters at $25000 each with most classes having two tests and a paper. West Virginia has a 13 week sememster for $4000 with weekly tests, 2 exams, and multiple papers and projects. The system is set up to reward those who worked hard in 10th grade.

162

Next up for Justin Elliot:

Rick Perry is a womanizing homosexual! 

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+1, lol

163 The system is set up to reward those who worked hard in 10th grade.

Heh.  9th grade, dummy.

164 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 09:19 AM (lbo6/)

I think multitude is a relatively new sock, or a troll.

165 However, if a lot of anti-Catholic and anti-Mormon stuff surfaces from him or from his inner circle, I will have a really hard time voting for him. 
I don't know about his inner circle but I would agree. I can't imagine that Perry would stand up and bash Catholics? That would be weird; I grew up in a catholic bashing house and I'm a catholic convert who teaches rcia and often has to explain doctrine to confused evangelical types.

166 Rick Perry turned me into a newt.

167 Anyone running for president should be able to AT LEAST break into the top 25% of their class at a public college.  His transcripts are terrible.
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Even if their major has nothing whatsoever to do with what they did later in life? 

When I look at Perry's transcripts I think two things:
1. I could have helped him improve his grades
2. He chose the wrong major

168 For example, right now Princeton only has 8 week semesters

Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 09:22 AM (E5UEE)

I understand your point, but fall semester starts on September 15 and ends on December 16th, with finals in January. That's a bit more than eight weeks.

169 @ CDB It also posts as "Western Hawk." I'm pretty sure I've seen AJ use that hash, though. It's hard to associate his socks with his name because he only posts from his real hash as Average Joe, and I refuse to play his faggoty DaVinci Code game. But usually, the key indicator is that he out-trolls our regular trolls. Guys with that kind of skill at prevarication should be leaving a trail of broken vaginas behind them, not wasting it playing trolls on the internet. Homo.

170

Anyone running for president should be able to AT LEAST break into the top 25% of their class at a public college. His transcripts are terrible.

This doesn't phase me in the least especially compared to his post graduate career. Some of the most brillant people I know never set foot in class. In fact, I knew a Rhodes Scholar who made it a policy to NOT go to class to see what would happen. That can work in the upper tier schools but would kill you in the lower tier. In the state schools I hear they actually take attendance.

171

I understand your point, but fall semester starts on September 15 and ends on December 16th, with finals in January. That's a bit more than eight weeks.

Full week off for fall break full week off for Thanksgiving. My niece is there.

172 I don't know about his inner circle but I would agree. I can't imagine that Perry would stand up and bash Catholics? That would be weird

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Yeah, I am not expecting it, but I admit I have a little anxiety about it.  I guess the Huckabee stuff really got to me last time. 

I have an LDS friend who loathes Huntsman and has said she won't vote for Romney this time (last time around she and her husband donated to his campaign) because he's too liberal.  She seems to be hunting for a candidate and I've mentioned Perry.  She doesn't know anything about him, so I've told her some things to try to get her interested in his candidacy.  But I confess that I cringe at the prospect of some tape of one of his ministers railing against Mormons.  I've done some checking and I can't find anything, fortunately.  I would like to work on the Perry campaign, but I will not be able to do it here in Utah if he turns out to be bigoted against Mormons. 

I don't think it's going to happen and I really think it unlikely that Perry himself will be found to have those sorts of bigoted sentiments.  He seems too professional and practical for that. 

I will say when we moved to Texas we were surprised to encounter a fair number of people who felt it necessary to remark on our religion (Catholic).  So it's a cultural thing, I guess, that a lot of folks down there think of Catholics differently. 

173 I am an atheist through and through, and I LOVES me some Perry!

174

Funny how guilt by association only works one way,

Oh no, it goes both ways.

Rick Perry is friends with racists, therefor he is a racist himself.

Rick Perry's friends are friends with Rick Perry, therefor they are racist.

175 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 09:30 AM (lbo6/)

So the most highly developed use of one's intellect is to get laid?

I like it!

I stopped reading AJ's comments because they are incoherent and boring. Multitude was more aggressive, and slightly more interesting. Western Hawk also claimed to be a farmer who rejected subsidies, so at least this one is being consistent.

But I have to take a crap now, and that is far more important than either of them.

176 Rick Perry is a Mormon Muslim Papist!

Fight the Utah/Rome/Mecca Nexus!

177

Average Joe should do something useful with his time.

Like writing propaganda leaflets to drop on the Taliban.

Damn you, Average Joe! 

178
For example, right now Princeton only has 8 week semesters
Posted by: dagny at August 11, 2011 09:22 AM (E5UEE)

I understand your point, but fall semester starts on September 15 and ends on December 16th, with finals in January. That's a bit more than eight weeks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Princton has a week long Fall recess Oct 29 thru Nov 6.  Also, Thanksgiving week, since many students skip classes at the beginning of the week to beat the rush.

That's two weeks out.

179

There must be a liberal troll machine out there that zooms in on any blog discussing Rick Perry, our next President. The trolls, the spam and/or the sock puppets are up early.

The Obummer machine is focused on Romeny. Perry will come at them and they will scramble to then crucify him. Rick Perry is ready. The media and the liberals are going to wet their pantaloons and it will be a lot of fun.

I like his unorthodox-go-against-the-grain timing in not entering this race too soon. The herd needs to be culled, and it might as well be now. I like his record in Texas, I like that he is a Christian who prays. I like that he does not appear to care what people/press/trolls think of him, unlike The Won, who is so light in his loafers he probably weeps over the polls and gets anorexia. I like that Perry executed a Mexican rapist on death row with everyone, including the UN, begging him not to. I like his swagger. I like his accent. I like his hair. I like Texas.

I am ready for Rick to shake things up and tell it like it is, gloves off. The bases are loaded and his timing is perfect. I will find the liberal freak-out hilarious. Bring it on.

180 I will say when we moved to Texas we were surprised to encounter a fair number of people who felt it necessary to remark on our religion (Catholic).  So it's a cultural thing, I guess, that a lot of folks down there think of Catholics differently.  The Deep South is not as culturally homogeneous as everyone thinks. Southern Louisiana is heavily Catholic. You'll even see fast-food joints with Lenten menus.

181 Rick Perry juggles kittehs. 

182 185 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 11, 2011 09:30 AM (lbo6/)
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So the most highly developed use of one's intellect is to get laid?

I like it!
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So does my husband.  (I have a Ph.D., IYKWIM.)


To me the Average Joe schtick is too much like a practical joke.  A passive-aggressive gesture by someone who enjoys tormenting others.  It's particularly popular amongst 3rd grade boys so that's where I'd put the "intellect" of our friend. 

183 Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 09:37 AM (FnRYN) This should be followed by, "I'm Rick Perry and I approve this message." Love it!

184 The Deep South is not as culturally homogeneous as everyone thinks. Southern Louisiana is heavily Catholic.

I know.

TX != LA

Nevertheless, my point stands.  We got a fair number of "Oh, you're CATH-o-lic?" remarks when we lived down there.  Part of it may also be that my husband (French-Italian) is sometimes mistaken for a Jew. 

It wasn't a biggy, but just something we noticed and something that never happened to us any other place (except here in Utah, obviously). 

185   And so it goes. Easy to see the left recognizes that Perry, like Palin, represents an enormous threat.  Good, I hope they shit their collective pants at the thought of one or both jumping in the fray.

  BTW, thanks again, Vic for the eval, maybe this deserves it's own thread. I think you did a really objective job here.

  Personal preference here is and has been Palin. If both decide to run, the outcome, (for me, at least is a win-win) and wouldn't mean holding the nose like McCain was. Tired as hell of the "least objectionable" candidate crap.

186 My theory is Average Joe has a bizarre sexual kink where he can only attain an erection when conservatives are screaming at him.  Whenever I find out I was arguing with one of his socks I always feel a bit used.

187 @186 Rick Perry is a Mormon Muslim Papist!

Fight the Utah/Rome/Mecca Nexus!

OK, I lol'd at that one! 

188 Whenever I find out I was arguing with one of his socks I always feel a bit used.

At least you didn't feel damp.

189 If there really were such a thing as a James Bond super villain would an average person have standing to sue that villain for disrupting their life?

Wait, there really have been two James Bond super villains - Bin Laden (deceased be his name) and George Soros.

I saw on Drudge where Soros' ex - a Brazilian soap star - is suing him for $50 million because he choked her etc.  Gee - an admitted Nazi collaborator is abusive toward women - who would have guessed that?

Soros is too big for any individual to take down financially - however, not even he could fight a million little law suits. For instance somebody could sue him because his dog's barking keeps them awake at night. Or somebody else could sue him because the foul stench of six million dead Jews coming out of his apartment lowers the value of the neighborhood housing or... You get the idea - a Flash Mob of law suits - the death of a million paper cuts.

If police officers can be prohibited from owning weapons by a history of domestic violence  - surely even one such as Soros has to abide by that same law.

 

190

Average Joe's concern-troll-foo-sock is weak this morning...

OMG...get out of the house!!11!! Average Joe IS Curious!!!

191

Did you miss the comment about Rick Perry breaking a door down and baptizing the poor guy against his will?

Then he banned the guys heterosexual marriage just so he could have forced gay sex with him without adultering!

And then he threatened to kill him if he didn't convert to Islam.

And then he sent the guy the Guantanamo because he said he was muslim.

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193

Rick Perry beat me with his Bible and dragged me to the river.

 

194 And so it goes. Easy to see the left recognizes that Perry, like Palin, represents an enormous threat. Good, I hope they shit their collective pants at the thought of one or both jumping in the fray.
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Personal preference here is and has been Palin.

Personally, I don't think Palin is running. I do, however, think she'll endorse Perry again (she endorsed him for TX Gov over Kay Bailout Hutchinson).

I am a fan of Sarah Palin, but for 2012 I'm firmly in the Perry camp. He's got the most experience, best economic record, and represents our best chance to throw Obama out of office.

195 Soros is too big for any individual to take down financially - however, not even he could fight a million little law suits.

You know how the JEF's regulatory agencies are basically acting as extra-legal politburos, issuing edicts and regulations to control and destroy industries and businesses?

I'd like to see a Perry or Palin Administration agency take a very big interest in the regulated activities of the Soros organizations...even to the point of driving them out of the country rather than submit to the prominent investigations, etc.

196 I am a long time registered moby who pretended to vote  for Ronald Reagan 37 times and am concerned about the direction of the extremist mobys whose transparent bullshit is causing independents to be turned off to addle brained 20 year old sociology majors trying to pose as conservatives on sites like this.
This like totally frosts my flakes.

197 OK, here's my 2 cents. I grew up without religion, bought into the "religion is evil" meme, and now at 50, I see what destruction that the left has wreaked on the family unit because of that meme. I believe it's all connected. So Perry being religious does not scare me off.

I speak as someone who voted for the first time in 2010 because I *finally* felt informed enough to vote. I identify with and call myself a Tea Partier. I don't think I'm alone, but reading through the comments, it seems to me that meme is still causing some to recoil.

If the R puts up a palatable candidate to the indies, the R's WILL lose. See McCain.

The TP is about gov't being too big/intrusive. Fear that an openly religious candidate would usher in a Christian type of Sharia is what the meme has lead us to believe, and I think they L is wetting their pants over Perry, thinking he would be *so* easy to destroy, but they don't take into account those like me who see through their lies.

IF Perry proves out to more interested in reining in gov't. and getting us back on our feet vs. big gov't.  nanny statism, he'll have my vote! 

198 But if the U.S. Government goes after Soros personally, what if he tries to attack our currency on the forex market? He could seriously devalue the US dollar. HAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!! Sorry. Sometimes I'm too silly for my own self.

199

Y-Not. While I don't speak for the entire South--although I should be elected for that office someday as I have all the credentials--I have to chirp up here. I was raised literally in the heart of Dixie (Mississippi) during all kinds of a mess with civil rights, riots, you name it. Solid generational Presbyterian. I wear my redneck badge with pride. Some of my best friends were Catholic from elementary school through high school. My father had Jewish friends growing up. Perhaps you met an ignorant bunch of Protestants, but I truthfully cannot think of anyone thinking it was a big deal. They usually had big families, but otherwise no biggie and they were popular. So I am sorry you had that experience, as Mississippi, rural Mississippi mind you, in the nation's eye should be a bunch of racist, inbred, bigoted, ignorant rednecks. Some are, as some are the same in Boston, who had a much more violent intergration of public schools than we did. The convoluted point is this: you met some idiots. By the way, I married a Catholic from NY and he was welcomed into the family as if he were General Lee...so, go figure.

Fast forward to my decade in Salt Lake City, Utah, which is where you are now. I was the only Southerner in college classes. I had no trouble finding friends Mormon or non-Mormon. Granted, they were mostly "Jack-Mormon" in college as they drank booze, but they all returned to the church and Temple and all that requires (the underwear). I love them. Romney was my guy last election. This time? Meh. He is always one beat behind any issue, waiting to see how the wind blows. I like Romney's business skills (well, except for Romneycare which will be tied to his neck with the Mormon thing---which should not matter to people). I would still vote for Romney or anyone against JEF, but I hope I will be voting for someone who gets me excited.

By the way, y'all, stinkin' Jeb Bush, who I liked and supported as he can run a heck of a hurricane here in Florida (compared to that stupid crying woman in LA during Katrina, Blanco)....well, Jeb blew himself up yesterday in supporting, wait for it: Huntsman, who I would not recognize in a line up. Very bizarre. Whatevah.

200 I do, however, think she'll endorse Perry

I hope she does. 

I know some folks think "the more the merrier," but what I'd like to see is a selection of candidates with pretty distinctly different approaches and records who run positive campaigns.  I think we kind of already have that.  I'd like the GOP primary process to have as little drama as possible.  Let's just all sit down and decide on what is most important to us and go with the candidate that gets us there.

If Gov. Palin is happy with Perry's policies overall, which I *think* she is, I hope she helps reinforce those ideas by supporting him, rather than making him tack right (or left) in the primary.  I don't think it's the right time for Palin to run because I don't see what she's done post-Alaska that has really enhanced her readiness for the presidency.  In my opinion, she needs to do some more public policy or organizational leadership work to prepare herself.  I would vote for Pawlenty before Palin and I am not a fan of Pawlenty. 

What encourages me a bit is that the big candidates (Romney, Pawlenty, Bachmann) have not gone negative on Perry.  There's no point in doing that outside of contrasting records in a debate setting. 

201 Via HotAir...Perry is in, bitches!

202 I will say when we moved to Texas we were surprised to encounter a fair number of people who felt it necessary to remark on our religion (Catholic).  So it's a cultural thing, I guess, that a lot of folks down there think of Catholics differently. 

Naw, they're just surprised that your Catholic and yet not Mexican.

203 Something the left is ignoring at their peril. Perry is good looking, dynamic and gives a hell of a speech. Mccain was old and a bore and still a 3.5 point swing the other way and he beats Obama. Obama is going to lose badly. His negative coattails will be terrible. Obama will become the most hated man in the democrat party. Even blacks will turn on him because they made them look bad by association.

204 Via HotAir...Perry is in, bitches!


He's officially announcing on Saturday.

205 He's officially announcing on Saturday. Awesome. This is gonna be great!

206 213

By the way, y'all, stinkin' Jeb Bush, who I liked and supported as he can run a heck of a hurricane here in Florida (compared to that stupid crying woman in LA during Katrina, Blanco)....well, Jeb blew himself up yesterday in supporting, wait for it: Huntsman, who I would not recognize in a line up. Very bizarre. Whatevah.

That was Jeb Bush JR. Not Governor Jeb Bush.

Thank you... I overheard it cooking dinner but was not looking at the teevee. I feel better now and life can go on. Thanks for that. My bad.

207 Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 11, 2011 10:00 AM

Don't misunderstand me.  We loved Texas.  It's just that we noticed that we were the minority, as we are here in Utah.  And we noticed that we were mainly because people we would meet would remark on it, not because of what we were doing. 

I guess my only point is that if in a casual encounter a significant number of folks feel it necessary to remark on your religion, it might be an indication that there are cultural forces at play that might mean we could wind up seeing something unpleasant from Perry's circle vis a vis Catholics or Mormons.

Although my extended family are from a very Catholic part of New England, I grew up in a very integrated (socioeconomic, ethnic, religious) community outside DC, so I have limited experience with what is considered normal in some more close knit communities.  I confess I was completely shocked by what I saw in 2008.  I literally had no idea that there were preachers who spent any time telling their congregants to revile Mormons or whoever. 

So that's all I'm saying.  I'm just saying that I think there is a non-zero possibility that sometime when Perry was growing up he was exposed to that sort of thinking at church or wherehaveyou.  And if a lot of that comes out to smear him, I won't be able to work on his campaign.  I might still vote for him, but it would be too hard for me to live in this community if Perry is effectively tarred with that brush.

208 O doesn't have time to turn things around.  (Not that he would if he did.)  So it's going to be all bullshit all the time.

I'm glad Perry doesn't take any shit.

209 Mccain was old and a bore and still a 3.5 point swing the other way and he beats Obama.

Let's face it.  We ran an albino against mocha jesus.  We were doomed.

210 Obama is going to lose badly. His negative coattails will be terrible. Obama will become the most hated man in the democrat party. Even blacks will turn on him because they made them look bad by association.

Posted by: bill

 

I'll agree to the first three. Blacks will never turn on him. Even after OJ went to jail for stupid, violent crimes, he wasn't spurned or loathed by the community that raved when he literally got away with murder. They simply changed the subject and he became largely an unperson. But if pressed, they will prevaricate and spew lies. If you don't believe me, test the assertion. Obama will get some bizarre legacy attached to him, and he'll likely be a higher dollar version of Jackson or Sharpton.

211 Is there any serious reason to not support him? From what I've read, there are a few small issues but nothing to keep me from doing my best to help him become President. What say you guys? Oh, and I would like to take this moment to mention that it's my 4th wedding anniversary, so there's that lol

212 The way one establishment minded northern Republican operative described it to me - "And Perry? No one is going to vote for another Texas yahoo." He went on to say that it is all about Romney because he is the only one who is able to get the republican machine behind him quick enough (think ground game). fwiiw.

213 Too bad I'm pretty sure that average Joe actually does have anti Perry feelings. So its much less socking a troll and hiding his actual views of the guy.

214

Y-not...yeah, I get it re: if/big if Perry should smear the Mormon issue. I don't think he will. Huckabee would, but not Perry (at least I hope not).

Blue Hen...blacks would turn on him if Jesse tells them to, and Jesse was yapping about the unemployment rates (15%?) of blacks the other day. One thing that would turn them totally would be if he turned out to bat for the other team. A girl can dream, can't she?

On Weasel Zippers blog there was a video of a crazy bunch of union thugs attacking Rep. Boehner's Ohio campaign office the other day. Kicking the door and screaming. Signs saying "where are the jobs." Totally loco, and they call the Tea Party folks terrorists! Almost wanting to go London in full riot, aren't they? These were teachers screaming for jobs. Ok, if you are a teacher out of work it is probably because you are a crappy teacher or should move elsewhere. Honestly, I despise these people.

215 Once again the left demonstrates that their fundamental flaw is not that they are wrong, but that they are dishonest and driven by malice.

In other words, they are evil.

216 Perry is the only one on the radar right now that can bitch slap Obama.

And when, not if, Palin throws her support his way, it will be a landslide.

217

IowaHawk question for Obama during his Twitter Town Hall

When you create jobs, why do always create them for Texas?

Thread winner! :-D

218

While having the Commiecrats hate Rick Perry is a good sign, I fear that, like George W Bush, he just does not get it about immigration.

 

 

219

Blue Hen...blacks would turn on him if Jesse tells them to, and Jesse was yapping about the unemployment rates (15%?) of blacks the other day.

Jesse Jerkson will grumble and even be dragged kicking and screaming into supporting the Obamunist, but he will nonetheless. Hating Whitey is all important to him, regardless of jealousy and resentments Jerkson may have about this half-Kenyan usurper.

220 Just remember folks, it's Congress that makes the laws, whether it be immigration, whatever. So we've got to elect a conservative Congress as well.

221

The Sons of Confederate Veterans are about as subversive as the Boy Scouts of  America.  This Salon guy is way off in left field.

Ah but to the Commiecrats, the Boy Scouts *are* subversive....Reverent and all that.

222 Cain screwed up by saying he wouldn't allow a jihadi in his cabinet.  Perry needs to take note:

He should immediately invite the services of Dougie Hooper as his White House Press Secretary.
Dougie's ego would whore him out, now that CAIR isn't going anywhere that puts him in the spotlight.
The press briefers would be hilarious as he slams his "fellow" journalists with outrage. Right wingers could only marvel and chant, "Go, Dougie, Go" as he spittled the microphone in his little white dog bowl hat.
Not only that, him having to explain a pro-Israel stance would be funnier than LBJ trying to pronounce the word "Negro."

223 Good evening, I'm Chris Matthews, welcome to Hardball.  With us tonight is noted atheist Christopher Hitchens.  Let's get right to it, Chris.  Rick Perry and this Jesus thing, what's that all about?  Does this guy put on a crown of thorns and a shroud and dance around or something?  I mean, should jews and muslims leave the country right now?  When Rick Perry castrates homosexuals will that be the end of gay adoption?  What is it about Texas that gives us these people.........Bush, Perry, Koresh............your thoughts? 

224

Echoes of Uncle Ron. The Left's constant themes are (1) religion boogeyman, (2) War boogeyman, (3) "Kill The Poor" boogeyman, (4) "Scare the darkies" boogeyman (their thoughts, not mine).

 

225

To me the Average Joe schtick is too much like a practical joke. A passive-aggressive gesture by someone who enjoys tormenting others. It's particularly popular amongst 3rd grade boys so that's where I'd put the "intellect" of our friend.

Posted by: Y-not at August 11, 2011 09:38 AM (5H6zj)

Punk'd is a retarded show and emulating it is equally as retarded.

226 As mentioned/suggested: If there be a nick against Perry regarding religion, it'll be that he has associated with a pastor who has held a sermon on the evils of Mormons/Catholics. Yeah, there are churches down here who will hold Bible studies or have special meetings to "warn" their members on how those people aren't Christians/won't go to heaven/are crazy/etc.
The Huckabee thing was not a fluke, wasn't an accident and wasn't slipped in by some over-zealous staffer--that shit was signed off on from the top by Fuckabee himself because his type of "church" is the very type that has held those "bash other religions as children of Satan/ours is the one, the only and the pure Christianity (and you need to give us more money so we can fight their evil)" type meetings.

227

Can you incline your head a little more on the "public college" part?  I can't see your flared left nostril.

Since he has totally screwed up Texas becasue of a lack of smarts, I can see where you are coming from.  Try again.

I think you misinterpret what I was saying.  I don't look down at public colleges--I have engineering degrees from two of them.  That being said, public colleges aren't as selective as private colleges--getting into the top 25% at MIT is a lot harder than doing the same at A&M.

It takes a certain amount of mental horsepower to be a good president.  President Clinton had it (although I disagreed with many of his policies).  President Bush didn't have it.  President Obama is so far out in left field that I don't know whether there's anything in his head when he looks around the room. 

In college, Rick Perry sucked at almost everything.  I can understand getting a D in Organic Chemistry, but getting a D in economics and a C in US history?  That's pretty bad.  I'm not convinced he has what it takes.  Other than Gardisil and the trans-Texas corridor I agree with most of Perry's policies, but I'm just not convinced of his level of intelligence.  Advisors can only go so far--the man matters.

228

239 As mentioned/suggested: If there be a nick against Perry regarding religion, it'll be that he has associated with a pastor who has held a sermon on the evils of Mormons/Catholics.

Hasn't that pastor actually apologized for that sermon?

229 And really I'd love to have a preacher-off between all of the pastors that Perry has associated with versus Jeremiah Wright and Father Pflegar.  Who do you think would come out looking better?

230

As mentioned/suggested: If there be a nick against Perry regarding religion, it'll be that he has associated with a pastor who has held a sermon on the evils of Mormons/Catholics. Yeah, there are churches down here who will hold Bible studies or have special meetings to "warn" their members on how those people aren't Christians/won't go to heaven/are crazy/etc.

I still think it is mainline Southern Baptist that Catholics and Mormons are in religious cults.  Catholics can still go to heaven; Mormons I'm not sure about.  Jews need not apply at the Pearly Gates--faith in Christ is still required for entry into heaven. 

Note that I'm not saying that's right or wrong.  It isn't my responsibility to pick who goes and who doesn't, so it isn't something I worry about!

 

231 I still think it is mainline Southern Baptist that Catholics and Mormons are in religious cults.

I am a "mainline Southern Baptist" and grew up going to a small country Southern Baptist church. I never once heard a single sermon that downgraded another religion, or any Mormon.

I heard a LOT of hellfire and brimstone about our own sins.

232 And really I'd love to have a preacher-off between all of the pastors that Perry has associated with versus Jeremiah Wright and Father Pflegar. Who do you think would come out looking better? Exactly. I can not wait for people to bring this up again! I said this last night, Obama has given us a gift. We need to use it.

233

I am a "mainline Southern Baptist" and grew up going to a small country Southern Baptist church. I never once heard a single sermon that downgraded another religion, or any Mormon.

I heard a LOT of hellfire and brimstone about our own sins.

I also grew up in a small Southern Baptist Church in a tiny Arkansas town.  I still have my membership there, although I go to a Methodist church with my wife.  I don't know your background, but based on my experience (church camps, bible studies, etc.) it is more common than not to view Catholicism as a cult.  That was mostly in the '80's, so things may have changed.  I personally don't agree with that view, so please don't think I'm supporting it.

Regarding Mormons, try explaining the LDS church to any Protestant and watch their reaction.  One of my good friends is Mormon, but I'd never asked him about it their religion.  I visited the Temple area in Salt Lake City a few months ago and one of the missionaries explained the basics to me.  Wow, WTF?

234

Yes, that is right. A 4. I think you get 8 for spelling your damn name right. Somewhat shocked at this, I asked “with that, how did you get in, your grades must have been killer…..did someone die the day you took the exam?” Her response: oh, I don’t know. My dad went here, so I guess that helps. My next question: “who is your dad”. She points over to the new library and replies “oh, that is his name on the building over there.”

 Please do not claim private schools are more selective.

Anyone can get into any school if they donate enough money!

235

When Rick Perry attacks Romney it will be for Romneycare not his religion. I hope that statement will be true, at any rate. I do not care that Romney is Mormon. I do not care that Rick is whatever he is. I do care that JEF gets his butt out of the White House forevermore.

236 "Perry's neo-RINO credentials also appear to be alarming; not without a radical personality shift does one go from embracing a full-out Progressive poster boy like Al Gore,"

Al Gore was not a full out progressive poster boy in 1988.

Hell, he was actually well to the right of many Republicans today.  

Al Gore changed, or I guess I should say, took his mask off.  A whole lot of decent Republicans actually switched from the democrat party.  Ronald Reagan, for example.

Perry doesn't need to be judged on something so petty as that because he has been making thousands of decisions as a Governor for eleven years.  You can just him on that.  It shows he is a true fiscal conservative, a reasonable leader, listens to the right when it's pissed off.  It's not perfect.  His is clearly not a philosophical libertarian or pure in any respect.  He's just a solid, hard working, fiscal conservative, with results.

Al Gore's mental illnesses have nothing to do with it.

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238 Naw. He's gay. Everybody here in DC says it and laughs about it. So he must be gay right? If they are all saying it here in DC.?

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