September 11, 2011
— Ace Not only Krugman, writing about the "Years of Shame" post-9/11, but also the anti-conservative liberal the media loves to quote as a conservative, Kathleen Parker.
An America that no longer knows itselfThe legacy of 9/11 canÂ’t be fully measured even now, but perhaps the most damaging aspect can be found in our national discourse.
Taking the long view, it is possible to see the roots of today’s political dysfunction — the hate, fear, anger and resentment — firmly planted in the soil at Ground Zero.
Did Osama bin Laden envision such a thing when he plotted the attacks? Probably not. He might have imagined that we would retaliate, and this would cost us lives and treasure. But he couldn’t have known that we eventually would lose our common sense of who we are. This has been the big surprise of 9/11 — an ongoing, self-perpetuating act of American self-destruction.
Something was unleashed 10 years ago that bears our scrutiny. It wasnÂ’t only evil, though the attacks were certainly that. The event was so cataclysmic and horrifying that it caused a sort of emotional breakdown in the American constitution. Simply put, it damaged our collective soul and seems to have released a free-ranging hysteria that has contaminated our interactions ever since.
No matter how many prayers uttered; no matter how many hands held or pledges made; no matter how many bombs dropped or coffins draped. A nation cannot heal itself without self-awareness. On this score we have fallen short. We seem not to want to recognize that we donÂ’t have a problem; we are the problem.
Putting it bluntly, Sept. 11 caused us to go temporarily insane. Being for or against the war, first in Afghanistan and later in Iraq, divided us as wars do, but this time was different. Friendships ended, marriages suffered, people crossed the street to avoid those with whom they disagreed. Ten years later, we are still at war. Tack on the global financial crisis, stagnant unemployment, the further dissolution of trust in our institutions, and we have all the ingredients for moral panic.
And now, alas, another election season is upon us with all the froth and spittle we love to loathe. President Obama understands that the nation has a psychological problem, but no president in his right mind can afford to speak publicly of such things. If Jimmy Carter was brought down by his “crisis of confidence,” a.k.a. “malaise,” speech, imagine if Obama, who already suffers an image of elitist condescension, mentioned that the nation could use a little time on the couch.
We stumble at last upon a purpose for columnists — to say that which no one else dares.
Note that Parker writes in her typical passive-aggressive way, and a superficial reading might suggest she's saying "a pox on all houses." But her previous history suggests to me she has a firm idea about which people went "temporarily insane," and which people remained steadfastly the voices of reason.
It's interesting, to me, that neither Parker nor Krugman feel the need to pretend they supported the War in Afghanistan any longer. This used to be a standard trope of the left, to feign support of one war to prove one's general credibility on the subject; they've now dropped that act, and no longer parse between Afghanistan and Iraq.
They don't quite confess the truth, but they no longer bother with the lies they once told. And, by the way, Miss Parker -- since you're casting about for some purpose for columnists that may make them seem more important than they are, confessing that truth that none on the left dare mention would more useful.
For a certain dominant strain of liberalism -- the liberalism of the bien pensant class -- the most attractive element of the creed is the self-deception. The self-deception I write of the moral vanity of supposing, by mere embrace of a political creed, that all "hate" and lizard-brain desire for vengeance has been purged from their minds.
Hatred has lived in the heart of men for 40,000 years. It is a natural response to the evils of the world. To say it is "natural" does not suggest it is good (despite the bien pensant's unexamined assumption of Rouseau's daffy conception of man as an untainted, virtuous angel absent the corrupting influence of society). But it is natural, in the sense of instinctual and innate.
To truly purge oneself of hatreds and a thirst for retribution would require the majority of a lifetime in philosophical self-denial and religious (or at least metaphysical) devotion and training. As a monk, whether a Western monk, giving his heart to god, or an Eastern monk, training himself to abnegate the self and its selfish passions in favor of a harmonic synthesis with the universe itself.
And yet, for the bien pensants, they seem to imagine they've accomplished this great feat simply by mouthing support of the Civil Rights Movement ("You know, if I were alive then, I'd've been a Freedom Rider") and by thrownng scorn and venom -- hate, in other words -- at those who show the temerity to disagree with them.
With all due respect: I'm absolutely certain this purging of hatred from one's heart is a much more difficult undertaking than the bien pensants imagine.
They profess to hate hate itself. That, for a start, indicates necessarily a more comfortable relationship with the emotion of hate than they generally acknowledge. But this is all for the purpose of constructing a have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too loophole, in which they can both hate hate, and yet may indulge, freely and without shame, in the emotion of hatred, so long as they can contrive a pretext for it.
And that pretext is always the same: Yes, they do hate. But those they hate are themselves hateful, so indulging in hatred is not a shameful act, nor a hypocritical one, but in fact a necessary and good campaign against hate.
But this is all, obviously to anyone standing outside this "because I said so" mock-philosophical loophole, just a bit of psychological transference. Those of us not smitten with this Only Hate Hate Itself dodge can admit we hate. We may not be proud of it, and may question ourselves when we give license to it, but we can in fact admit this ugly emotion lives in our hearts.
And we can admit then that we do in fact hate the murderers who killed 2,996 on 11 September 2001, and we hate their allies, and we hate those who dance in the street at the thoughts of men on fire plummeting a quarter mile through the air to their deaths.
But to the bien pensants, this won't due. This sort of hatred is base, and crude, and obvious; lower working class, is what they would really call it, if they had the supposed courage Kathleen Parker imagines they do in speaking uncomfortable truth. Not Quite Our Class, Dear, as the old saying goes, lacking in manners and savoir faire (knowing how to "do," and by "do," we mean comport oneself with the expected manners and opinions of the privileged class).
And what does a bien pensant in good standing about these these uncultured yobbos who feel no twinge of class-inculcated shame in hating mass-murderers?
Why, you hate them, of course. For what else can a good bien pensant, who has purged all hate from his heart by simple act of subscribing to Mother Jones, do when confronted with some benighted hatred, but to pour enlightened hatred on it?
We have never really been arguing about whether we should go to war, or whether we should hate. The only contention of these past 10 years has been whom we should go to war with, and whom we ought to hate.
The bien pensants are quite insistent that we must not hate some External Other who serves as a bogeyman exciting our darker passions.
Rather, they urge, we must direct these darker passions at an Internal Other, the vast majority of Americans who do not consider themselves a type of latter-day digital order of Jesuits.
Apparently we all have the right basic emotional take on things; some of us have just chosen the wrong bogeymen to fear and hate.
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Posted by: Jick Gibbles at September 11, 2011 10:48 AM (McymZ)
Hey, how about a day of civic responsibility ?
This is as bad a using “Gunwalker” to complain about illegal guns.
... oh, never mind the man behind the curtain.
Posted by: James Loughner at September 11, 2011 10:48 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: mike at September 11, 2011 10:48 AM (uVOkf)
And now this month's fantasy hypothetical question. Twenty-five percent of Americans think the world would be a better place if Al Gore had won the 2000 presidential election and 16 percent think it would be a worse place. Predictably, the former group had more Democrats and the latter more Republicans (surprise!). The majority of Americans (56 percent) led by Independents did not think that the world would be very different at all.
Posted by: James Loughner at September 11, 2011 10:53 AM (e8kgV)
I'll say no more.
Posted by: toby928© at September 11, 2011 10:53 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at September 11, 2011 10:54 AM (M0NzJ)
Posted by: Chesa Boudin at September 11, 2011 10:54 AM (BEjYW)
3 Krugman asks, why is this 9/11 subdued ? Because our President has done everything to make it that way.
Huh? George Bush hasn't done anything to make it that way.
Oh. You were talking about the guy who thinks the White House is a vacation timeshare? Oh, yeah, he has done everything he can to make it that way. I thought you were talking about the President, though.
Posted by: Jay Guevara at September 11, 2011 10:55 AM (BIzKS)
Posted by: The Great Satan's Ghost at September 11, 2011 10:55 AM (UrPTC)
Posted by: UGAdawg at September 11, 2011 10:55 AM (H6JHE)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 11, 2011 10:57 AM (ehEyA)
Posted by: SCoaMF at September 11, 2011 10:57 AM (gjsMD)
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at September 11, 2011 10:58 AM (ehEyA)
You know, I'm really really really fucking comfortable with hating anyone who wants to lop my head off. In fact, I would argue that it is morally repugnant to not hate jihadists.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 11, 2011 10:58 AM (Gk3SS)
At the risk of sounding bossy: America, heal thyself. Please.
At the risk of sounding vulgar; Parker, fuck thyself. Please
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 10:58 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Chesa Boudin at September 11, 2011 10:59 AM (BEjYW)
Posted by: Kortezzi at September 11, 2011 11:00 AM (3+X7l)
We don't "get rid of" people like Paulie Krugnuts and Kathleen Park-whore. Jesus Christ told us "the poor will always be with you", and to humbly paraphrase the Son of God, the vulgar 'bien pensant' journo class will also always be with us.
It's an easy gig if you have the right parents, credentials and the ability to mouth or write the correct platitudes and bromides of the day, at the appropriate time. Just ask Jonathan Chait, who elicited his reasons why "I hate George Bush".
The easy targets are out of the picture: Emmanuel Goldman, George W. Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld. So it's really "all you reactionary hateful rednecks" that are preventing Obama from being the Incredible President they think he should be, that are the objects of criticism.
Kathleen Park-whore or any random bien pensant journo-list fellow traveler:
Why are you so mad that unemployment is so high, that your 401K plans are shrinking, that your home values are in the tank? I don't understand this anger?!
This has been going on for as long as the Republic has existed. When I was a kid and Barry Goldwater was in the ascendancy within the Republican Party, CBS cooked up a TV hit piece made by Daniel Schorr called "The Thunder on the Right" to conflate every random nut-job they could find with Goldwater.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at September 11, 2011 11:00 AM (sJTmU)
Posted by: Pinch Sulzberger at September 11, 2011 11:00 AM (kD+se)
Posted by: mike at September 11, 2011 11:00 AM (uVOkf)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at September 11, 2011 11:01 AM (0fzsA)
We seem not to want to recognize that we donÂ’t have a problem; we are the problem.
Oh I C, it's sort of like our chickens have come home to roost.
Thanks Kathleen Parker, National Psychologist.
You can DIAF now. have a nice day
Posted by: robtr at September 11, 2011 11:01 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: mare at September 11, 2011 11:02 AM (A98Xu)
They have been driving the car of divisiveness since Bush's election , we had a reprieve for a while after 9/11. They acted like they cared about all americans and the pain suffered.
This tripe/among a gazillion other comments from the Liberals of this country are why it is impossible to have unity.
every damn thing to them is worth smearing, even the grief of that horrible day and the response to the attack.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 02:59 PM (h+qn
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 11:02 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Kortezzi at September 11, 2011 03:00 PM
Therein lies her contempt for the proles. Her column is forced on people, her TV show could be and was completely ignored, exposing her as a well connected dipshit with nothing to say
Like Jimmy Carter, her hate is for those who rejected her
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 11:02 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Nobel Prize Committee at September 11, 2011 11:02 AM (/Cz3M)
Posted by: Pinch Sulzberger at September 11, 2011 03:00 PM
Stupid argyle sock. With garters.
Posted by: huerfano at September 11, 2011 11:03 AM (kD+se)
As the Sarge said in Hamburger Hill, "they take sides, you just take pictures"
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 11:04 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2011 11:05 AM (X6akg)
President Obama understands that the nation has a psychological problem
Duh, of course he does. How in the hell else could he have been elected without at least 52% of the voters being delusional.
Posted by: robtr at September 11, 2011 11:05 AM (MtwBb)
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 03:04 PM
and Parker, Krugman, Rich, Dowd, Chait, Chopra, wherever you are out there ....
FUCK YOU TOO !!!!
Posted by: Lt Col Frank Slade at September 11, 2011 11:05 AM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at September 11, 2011 11:06 AM (BuAsv)
This type of article is more proof they are losing.
She is angry that people are not keeping Barry in the 60s in approval.
Hey KaPa I got an offer for you, I'll hold your hand if you tell me why it was okay for you to try to paint Bush as a war criminal and side with a guy who campaigned against the horros of 'gitmo and rendition and the PATRIOT act and kept them when they were his m'kay?
until then you're looking for us to throw you and yours a lifeline and sacrifice our views to keep you in power....."no"
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:07 AM (AEIYh)
Duh, of course he does. How in the hell else could he have been elected without at least 52% of the voters being delusional.
Posted by: robtr
THIS!!!!
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes..... at September 11, 2011 11:07 AM (sJTmU)
What utter bullcrap. What reality do these people live in?!?
With all that money this ignorant woman gets paid to drivel on, you'd think she could afford some common sense and a dose of reality from normal sane Americans.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at September 11, 2011 11:07 AM (ACkhT)
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 11:08 AM (UZuc4)
You touched on a theme that I would like to see you explore more completely, Ace.
Contrivance: amongst the left it is a symptom of their love of Consequentialism.
An understanding without which you can't hope to explain their hatred for causality and logic.
At least Rosseau understood Aristotle. That bears noting when you read his works.
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2011 11:08 AM (PqyOZ)
Posted by: Darth Rove at September 11, 2011 11:09 AM (BEjYW)
Ironic part, they have no idea how much advertising they are doing for no longer being a democrat, they are driving people away from their liberal insanity more they will ever realise.
Posted by: johnc_recent_EXdem at September 11, 2011 11:09 AM (ACkhT)
"We stumble at last upon a purpose for columnists — to say that which no one else dares."
Such as, the Koran and Allah are driving people to murder?
In 2011, that can get a columnist killed.
Blaming conservative Americans for the downfall of the republic? That's not daring, that's job security.
Posted by: CJ at September 11, 2011 11:10 AM (9G+G5)
Posted by: alexthechick at September 11, 2011 02:58 PM (Gk3SS)
I'll go one further and I'll probably get ripped but I view Islam in general as the enemy. That might make me a bigot but at least I know who represents a potential threat.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:10 AM (biYc0)
And by we, of course, I mean you.
Posted by: Kathleen Parker at September 11, 2011 11:11 AM (6TB1Z)
My mother in law, turned anti-Obama, still doesn't get it. She, a second generation immigrant whose earliest tongue is peasant even in her own language and who thinks earth is the closest planet to the sun, likes Jon Huntsman. She dislikes Perry because she finds him "crude".
Sigh. Not only do these people who think they are the elite turn up their noses at the ethos of this country-- they lure the unthoughtful, the naive, the simple along with them.
To exist in a place where Perry, an american, a farmer, a governor is crude while Obama, a bastard son of a Kenyan alcoholic and a radicalized promiscuous communist is somehow not puts my grasp on how far we've fallen into wonderland in chaos.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:11 AM (4e7+E)
Posted by: goat lover at September 11, 2011 11:14 AM (gMRHu)
Kathleen Parker, Paul Krugman, Andrew Sullivan, and the rest of the cerebrally challenged left need to understand one thing: Al Qaeda hates them, too. Osama Bin Laden himself recognized that they are pliable and cowardly. They should at least pay respect to the dead with silence and not clog the media with snotty elegies of how they know better.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 11:15 AM (7utQ2)
Posted by: izoneguy at September 11, 2011 11:16 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 11, 2011 11:16 AM (qvify)
Posted by: Bob Saget at September 11, 2011 11:17 AM (dBvlk)
Yup. I'm educated and have options so I can recover from a lot of stupid things. There are a lot more folks who have little margin for error. They can't recover from the consequences of liberal stupidity. The nonsense pushed by liberals ruins lives, lots of them. That I can't forgive.
Posted by: pep at September 11, 2011 11:17 AM (6TB1Z)
I'll go one further and I'll probably get ripped but I view Islam in general as the enemy. That might make me a bigot but at least I know who represents a potential threat.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 03:10 PM (biYc0)
My bff holds that view. For a long time, I thought it was too harsh. The more I learn about the Quran and that pig-fucking pederast Mohammed, though, the closer I get to his way of thinking.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 11:17 AM (/ybwc)
I'll go one further and I'll probably get ripped but I view Islam in general as the enemy. That might make me a bigot but at least I know who represents a potential threat.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 03:10 PM (biYc0)
Ten years after the attacks, that is not an irrational stance. Western Muslim leaders have done little to deserve trust. I don't know what the average Western Muslim thinks. I know the young ones, about one in four, support suicide bombings. The rest, I'd like a little bit more than a passive 'I don't support terrorism.'
Posted by: CJ at September 11, 2011 11:18 AM (9G+G5)
Mark Steyn had the definitive column today on how insane shit this has gotten in regards to 9-11's remembrance. The left is desperately doing their best to turn this all into some politically-correct, we-caused-this, no-islamists-here horseshit.
Posted by: El Kabong at September 11, 2011 11:21 AM (sBkx9)
Posted by: richard mcenroe at September 11, 2011 11:21 AM (qvify)
Well, this has happened before. Remember the accusations that Republicans were waving the bloody shirt a number of years after the Civil War?
There are things that mark a nation's soul permanently. The scars fade but never really go away. 9/11 is one of them, and no "columnist" or "pundit" is going to change that fact. What happens will happen in spite of the Slugmans or Parkers of the world. The country will work its way through this tragedy just as they did after the Civil War and Pearl Harbor. And we will remember the dead and take them into our hearts just the same.
How does one become a pundit, anyway? Is there some minimum IQ requirement that has to be met? Do you need to prove you have an extra chromosome or extra toes?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 11, 2011 11:21 AM (AF1jB)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 03:15 PM (7utQ2)
Regarding the Soviets, it is worth repeating that the Left made a little boo-boo when it came to assessing how we should respond to the last ideology that sought the demise of the United States: They were wrong about the greatest global struggle of the 20th century, the Cold War.
If they had any dignity they'd shut up, lest drawn attention to their prior slip up.
Posted by: CJ at September 11, 2011 11:23 AM (9G+G5)
Posted by: Ingrown Pube at September 11, 2011 11:23 AM (o7r33)
Parker and Krugman, two of a kind.
I was having a relatively good day until I read Krugman's little turd of an article. He is a shitstain who deserves to have his ass beaten, and well.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 11, 2011 11:24 AM (d0Tfm)
Kathleen Parker, Paul Krugman, Andrew Sullivan, and the rest of the cerebrally challenged left need to understand one thing: Al Qaeda hates them, too.
>>> It would almost be worth them winning if Krugman and co. would be led to the beheading block first, and I can see their faces when they realized the strike was about to fall.
Posted by: Trump at September 11, 2011 11:24 AM (hK2Ya)
whoa...that sentence made my brain hurt.
Posted by: proudonkey at September 11, 2011 11:25 AM (NadeK)
Stolen from support your local gunfighter
Pics from NYC today
Posted by: hutch1200 at September 11, 2011 03:20 PM (fdokL)
The 3rd pic from the bottom? The one that they don't understand....that's Sybok.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:25 AM (gT2r2)
Posted by: Darth Rove at September 11, 2011 11:26 AM (BEjYW)
My bff holds that view. For a long time, I thought it was too harsh. The more I learn about the Quran and that pig-fucking pederast Mohammed, though, the closer I get to his way of thinking.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 03:17 PM (/ybwc)
I believe we're in a full blown Holy War. Not necessarily Armegeddon but definitely a battle for our souls.
I know, I probably just lost credibility with a bunch of fellow Morons but when the enemies of Jesus declare war, I take their word and I take them seriously.
Today is a reminder of what we're up against.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:27 AM (biYc0)
Like Rome, our true enemy is internal.
Posted by: Holger at September 11, 2011 11:27 AM (zaVyn)
Posted by: Steph at September 11, 2011 11:27 AM (C7YP+)
Posted by: Guy Who Talks About Gentrifed Left at September 11, 2011 11:27 AM (fN9ue)
Posted by: Darth Rove at September 11, 2011 11:28 AM (BEjYW)
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 11, 2011 11:28 AM (GE1+K)
they are in panic and trying to lay the emotional groundwork for quitting the war.....
it will be interesting to see what happens when they throw in the towel on Iraq and 'ghani...
it'll tell us a lot about the middle.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:29 AM (AEIYh)
people at the memorials somber and at times weeping.
they find it a time instead of somberness and holding a hurting soul , a child of a dead parent , or soldier ...instead to be a time to slap at those that suffer.
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 11:29 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at September 11, 2011 11:29 AM (bxiXv)
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:29 AM (gT2r2)
Posted by: John Goodman's Cartoonish Conservative Character at September 11, 2011 11:30 AM (fN9ue)
Posted by: John Goodman's Cartoonish Conservative Character at September 11, 2011 11:30 AM (fN9ue)
Hate? No, I don't hate, but I have little tolerance for the left and their blame America strategy, and I have little tolerance for the Muslims that won't speak out against the Muslims who perpetrate these attrocities. There are very few in this country who will speak out, and that silence speaks volumes. Why? Simply because of all the places in the world, the United States is the safest place to speak out against the terrorism perpetuated by Muslims. I can understand Muslims in the West Bank, Egypt, Lebanon, Iraq, etc., not speaking out against terrorism. I wish they would but they would be putting their lives at risk. But here? No one's life will be on the line. And yet, crickets, for the most part. That is the most disconcerting effect. And then we do hear about Imam's speaking out, but they are speaking out in favor of the terrorists. They are the ones leading their mosques and their followers, and the so-called "moderate" muslims seem to not even exist, except as dry ink in the New York Times, while simultaneously castigating people like me as terrorists tea party types. So you tell me how we "bridge that gap".
Posted by: Jon in TX at September 11, 2011 11:31 AM (lRqIF)
Just remember that, if liberals ever supported the death penalty it is we whom they feel are the most deserving.
The left adores death.
Why?
They believe in the state, in the system NOT in the individual. The individual means nothing so death means nothing. That's why abortion is their sacrament.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:31 AM (gT2r2)
Posted by: johnny (John E.) at September 11, 2011 11:32 AM (8rEeD)
epic post.....
seriously.....
that was why I brought up "wider audience exposure"....
regards,
sven
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:33 AM (AEIYh)
these people dare to think they are our betters?
they can gth
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 11:33 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: John Goodman's Cartoonish Conservative Character at September 11, 2011 11:34 AM (fN9ue)
Or the Manhattanites nibbling on endangered Russian sturgeon caviar while bragging about how they helped stop the water flow in CA's Central Valley to save a worthless bait fish.
Or the tax return of a certain US leader showing less than 1% charitable giving, while busy exhorting the government to give more tax dollars away for 'good causes'.
Or the campaign to give Africans mosquito nets to cower behind, instead of exterminating the malarial plague that kills more people than the US ever has in its entire history.
Ahh, to be a progressive liberal and live conscience free. Nah, I'll pass.
Posted by: GnuBreed at September 11, 2011 11:34 AM (ENKCw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2011 11:35 AM (rAzGJ)
Like Rome, our true enemy is internal.
Posted by: Holger at September 11, 2011 03:27 PM (zaVyn)
Yes, we are threatened by internal political forces but make no doubt, Islam is a huge threat to our way of life. The two are working in concert with each other.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:36 AM (biYc0)
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at September 11, 2011 11:36 AM (AF1jB)
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:37 AM (gT2r2)
Imagine a group of 3 people walking together that have an argument the two main arguing people walk 10 steps apart with the "moderate" in the middle.....
The moderate was drifting towards one side or the other....
the left won by getting the moderate to walk towards him and the moderate has now drifted to the right one....
that is what this is the left trying to shame the moderate into embracing their kabuki theatrics and walk towards them again....
The proper response is to restate your case and use the kabuki against your foe and tell the moderate, "if we need unity let him move to the middle".......
like I said I refuse to reward the left for their shite in the earlier phases of the war.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:39 AM (AEIYh)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2011 11:39 AM (rAzGJ)
Posted by: section9 at September 11, 2011 11:39 AM (H6lGz)
The two are working in concert with each other.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 03:36 PM (biYc0)
Using each other as a means to disparate ends?
Unwise.
Categorically so.
Posted by: Immanuel Kant at September 11, 2011 11:40 AM (PqyOZ)
Well said, Ace.
We are the focus of hatred of the bien-pasant: The unenlightened, those who disagree with the elite. Us. To them we are haters, racists, homophobes and worse than Hitler!!!, and should be hated. EVERYONE other than we-who-deserve-hatred is either misunderstood, misguided, or reacting to injustice. They are to be excused.
That attitude colors everything the progressives say. You've opened a window into their wizened, darkened souls.
Posted by: theCork at September 11, 2011 11:40 AM (iSyWd)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 11, 2011 11:41 AM (7Ahkq)
Like Rome, our true enemy is internal.
Posted by: Holger at September 11, 2011 03:27 PM (zaVyn)
Exactly. Not the fanatics, but our response to them. A nation that doesn't think it is worth defending is just not long for the world. We're to apologize for our response to the attacks. Just was we are to feel shame in insisting that our border be respected.
There's the internal rot right there.
Posted by: CJ at September 11, 2011 11:44 AM (9G+G5)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 11:44 AM (fyOgS)
Funny though, the "elite" spends all of its time trying to lure the actual peasants into their moat.
The least equipped to survive are the most likely to be attracted to the elitest enlightenment. They either don't understand the shit the elites are peddling or they somehow think they are elites themselves and so must "join up" to show their stature.
Posted by: dagny at September 11, 2011 11:45 AM (3dYi7)
Using each other as a means to disparate ends?
Unwise.
Categorically so.
Posted by: Immanuel Kant at September 11, 2011 03:40 PM (PqyOZ)
It's how they will be ultimately defeated. How long that will take, I don't know.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:46 AM (biYc0)
Posted by: gerbil at September 11, 2011 11:46 AM (IsfUm)
like I said I refuse to reward the left for their shite in the earlier phases of the war.
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 03:39 PM (AEIYh)
hear, hear
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 11:47 AM (h+qn8)
I don't think of my life as strange. I'm screwed up, of course, but my days aren't. I probably watch about 75% less TV than the average person (not because I'm awesome, but because I was busy all the time when I was young, so I never caught the habit), but other than that, at any moment, I'm just a randomly selected dude, doing some normal thing. And here's what I saw this week, Monday through Saturday:
Number of "Remember 9/11"-type mass-cultural things: one. An episode of "I Survived..." I saw about half of by accident was about people who survived the WTC and Pentagon attacks. It was a rerun, I think, because it had Obama's "I got Bin Laden" podium announcement thingy very awkwardly pinned to the ass end of it, cutting off half the credits. Kinda ruined it, "politicization," etc. But, good stories, reminded me of some things, 9/11 among them.
Meanwhile... Number of people I know, saw on TV, or read announcing via mass email, or broadcasting on the 'tubes, that they're among the very select few who dare to say that which no one else dares and whip out a "This relentless blast of redneck kill-Ayrabs 'remembrance' from all media and all directions is making me crazy (or making me wish Gore was President so we wouldn't be at War-Slaves To Israel, or I wish more "red" people were killed, how 'bout today?—and especially Palin and her fucking dysgenic kids!, or it's reminding me how much admire Osama's amazing mental mastery over all the world even in death, or whatever)!": ...I can't count. I'd estimate...oh...a million billion.
The pre-reaction to today's— ...To today's what, by the way? There are some Prominent Citizen speeches, of course (it's an anniversary of a thing), and some crying people in the audience shots (because it was a bad thing), but aside from that, what? The occasional flag or sticker or shirt glimpsed in passing? (I haven't seen any.) Some memorial blog posts? A sad-looking dude somewhere, and you don't know why, but you know? A picture of a couple storm-drain runoffs passed off as a 'memorial'? —the pre-reaction to today's apparently not-at-all-world-consuming remembrance was crazy.
And today is the day everyone dares. It's fuckin' Dare Day. That's what it is. Really, deep-down, everywhere is.
Boned.
Posted by: oblig. at September 11, 2011 11:47 AM (xvZW9)
Posted by: meleager at September 11, 2011 11:47 AM (GIeBA)
Posted by: Marybel at September 11, 2011 03:41 PM (Hic+o)
Nice! Thanks Marybel.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:47 AM (biYc0)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 11:49 AM (IsfUm)
Posted by: tasker at September 11, 2011 11:50 AM (AE6KY)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 11:52 AM (IsfUm)
dang, it almost seems like the one day all year We The People on the right side of things decide to not say anything bad about anyone. The left comes out with the first string of stupid just to poke us with a stick.......
i left a comment on krugmans last post, they havent posted it yet and i dont think they will. so here it is for you.
(Mr, Krugman, why not allow comments on your last post? You dont want to hear what some of us people might have to say about it. You should have closed the comments here as well. You Sir and the Stuttering Clusterfuck or a Miserable Failure we have to call a President just do not seem to understand the common working man. Now get your shine box and get your ass to work at a real job.)
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 11:52 AM (VJBDN)
Posted by: David Rodaxel at September 11, 2011 11:53 AM (kKWmw)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 11:53 AM (IsfUm)
Posted by: sTevo at September 11, 2011 11:53 AM (VMcEw)
It wasn't unleashed, the Left's delusional hatred for this country, and at least half of its citizens, was uncovered. The facade fell down. Because liberalism is a cognitive disorder, they are the last to find out.
Posted by: Joe Bidenmytime at September 11, 2011 11:53 AM (KeRgi)
Posted by: liberals at September 11, 2011 11:54 AM (fnndg)
they can't use the plane as a field expedient ALCM from the john the most they can do God please don't let it happen is crash a plane....
that's the brave new world 9/11 brought....
and as Ace pointed out we are supposed to hate ourselves for it...
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:56 AM (AEIYh)
Posted by: Mindy at September 11, 2011 11:56 AM (1ms9m)
That info came from a commenter. Here's the full message:
Just came over NYC BNN: NY| Manhattan| *Aircraft Incident*| New York| american airlines 34 (boeing 767-200) has 3 passengers locked in a restroom refusing to come out. Fighter Jets are assigned for an intercept. aircraft is reported “300 miles out”| BNN | BNNDESK/NJC691 | #419232
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 11:56 AM (VKD8C)
Here's a site collecting posts for Krugman. The comments section is easy to use. Give it a try....
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 11:56 AM (UZuc4)
Posted by: no good deed at September 11, 2011 11:57 AM (mjR67)
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 11:57 AM (AEIYh)
You dont know half the insanity the left is spewing today
Not included is Noam Choamski on Al Jazzera pointing out that the 1973 Chilean coup was worse than 911
Oliver Stone's son defends Iran's right to get nukes
Jimmy Carter "We never fired a shot or went to war when I was president'
Cynthia Mckinney with Black Panther Honor guard defends Khadaffi.
Posted by: William Amos at September 11, 2011 11:57 AM (HcYmo)
Posted by: liberals at September 11, 2011 03:54 PM (fnndg)
Fuck off, dickbag.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 11:57 AM (biYc0)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 11:58 AM (fyOgS)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 11:59 AM (IsfUm)
No, seriously Erick. Sorry that was the worst accidental sock hang on of all time, but what I posted is what I read @ hotair.
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 11:59 AM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at September 11, 2011 11:59 AM (yQxD9)
in all likelihood they are just hysterics or nuts looking for attention....
grain of salt, and if in fact 3 nuts can use a plane on 9/11/11 to inflict their will on us....what's changed this decade other than exchanging clown a as the libs called him for clown b as we think of Obama?
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 12:00 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 12:00 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: robtr at September 11, 2011 12:01 PM (MtwBb)
there is an ongoing airline incident. AA flight 34. 3 passangers locked in a bathroom refuse to come out.
Is it the Frank or the Beans?
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2011 12:01 PM (PqyOZ)
We stumble at last upon a purpose for columnists — to say that which no one else dares.
I imagine Mz Parker, that people that belong on the couch are those dreadful war mongers that retaliated against the evil? That the rage directed at Bush for being one of the dreadful People that responded against the other was a Moral failing? that He had a huge % of our country's Hicks and others INCLUDING those kindly back stabbing DEMS behind him? Yes we have not forgotten about them Mz. Barker supporting Him in His efforts, Until they had an election to win..
The moral failings are yours and your friends leave us out of it to mourn and hope for peace for those families left .
Posted by: willow at September 11, 2011 12:01 PM (h+qn8)
Hey Famous, good to see you.
You think this is a sign they know they are losing?
Winners don't lecture with this much risk....
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 12:01 PM (AEIYh)
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 03:59 PM (VKD8C)
Crap, sorry. I thought Average Joe was back again.
Sorry Lauren!
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 12:02 PM (biYc0)
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 11, 2011 12:04 PM (i0App)
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 12:04 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 04:04 PM (VKD8C)
Actually, it lists the estimated ETA as 3:57, but shows the status as "en route." Nothing about this anywhere else that I can find, though.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 12:06 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: Clubber Lang at September 11, 2011 12:07 PM (QcFbt)
Posted by: MissTammy at September 11, 2011 12:07 PM (SsG4J)
in all likelihood they are just hysterics or nuts looking for attention....
grain of salt, and if in fact 3 nuts can use a plane on 9/11/11 to inflict their will on us....what's changed this decade other than exchanging clown a as the libs called him for clown b as we think of Obama?
Posted by: sven10077 at September 11, 2011 04:00 PM (AEIYh)
Military escorts have been dispatched to follow this plane. Apparently, this is a real story, and the plane is in the process of landing somewhere right now.
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 12:08 PM (UZuc4)
Perhaps someone here, who can do the Tiny Url thing can post the link to Bin Laden's letter to America.
Just google/Bing "Bin Laden letter to America" and read the results in his own words.
As far as I know, there has never been any credible proof that the letter was not from Bin Laden, but if someone knows otherwise, please say so.
Reading his explanation, it is very evident that there is nothing that America, in it's current form can do to appease him.
I often said, it is eerily similar to the scene in the Will Smith movie, Independance Day where the President is confronted by the alien, and attempts to find a common ground for peace between the aliens and the human race.
The President is desperately searching for and answer, and asks the alien what they want from us. And the aliens simple reply was "We want you to die"
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 11, 2011 12:08 PM (TAjA/)
We threw the first punch; we got hit back.
Simple.....(except for those with a missing gene for logic)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 12:08 PM (oA4y0)
Hopefully it was just some ill timed mile-high threesome.
It was Isaac, his friend 'Gopher' and I working on my PTSD treatment.
Posted by: Mac Mclelland at September 11, 2011 12:09 PM (PqyOZ)
Fighter jets were launched to escort a flight from Los Angeles to John F. Kennedy airport after passengers refused to come out of an airplane bathroom.
New York City has been under heightened alert since intelligence was picked up overseas indicating a possible plot to coincide with the 10th anniversary of 9/11.
According to a security official, the three passengers on American Airlines Flight 34 went into a bathroom and were “not compliant.”
The official says the passengers are now back in their seats.
The flight is set to arrive at JFK at 4:25 p.m.
-Whatcat @hotair, though I have no idea where he got that info.
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 12:11 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 12:12 PM (VJBDN)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:14 PM (fyOgS)
Posted by: William Amos at September 11, 2011 12:14 PM (HcYmo)
Simple.....(except for those with a missing gene for logic)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 04:08 PM (oA4y0)
Fuck you. You are a fucking tool.
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2011 12:14 PM (PqyOZ)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 12:14 PM (IsfUm)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at September 11, 2011 12:15 PM (cbyrC)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 12:16 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: nerdygirl at September 11, 2011 12:16 PM (IsfUm)
Not just Ace
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 12:17 PM (Y+DPZ)
There is stupidity and then there is willful stupidity. You exhibit the second type.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 12:18 PM (7utQ2)
Fuck you. You are a fucking tool.
Posted by: garrett at September 11, 2011 04:14 PM (PqyOZ)
It might be Average Joe. Just sayin.'
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 12:18 PM (biYc0)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:18 PM (fyOgS)
we didn't go insane; they already were
Posted by: Group Capt Lionel Mandrake at September 11, 2011 12:18 PM (UqKQV)
I am equally sure that her opinion of who is insane and mine differ greatly. Especially considering that I still think the left (and democrats in general) are clinically insane and in desperate need of mental help.
Posted by: Deathknyte at September 11, 2011 12:19 PM (qdNOW)
Compare and contrast 2001 Chile with 2001 Afghanistan. Tough call.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 12:19 PM (7utQ2)
3 muslims seeing what they can get away with.
My guess too. I just pray that they didn't get themselves wired with explosives while they were in there.
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 12:20 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: steevy at September 11, 2011 12:20 PM (fyOgS)
a bat-shit crazy Frog, also a terrible writer
Posted by: Group Capt Lionel Mandrake at September 11, 2011 12:21 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: gm at September 11, 2011 12:21 PM (K0tm3)
Posted by: Deathknyte at September 11, 2011 04:19 PM
When you're in a mental hospital, everyone around you is normal, it's everyone outside who is nuts
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 12:22 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 12:22 PM (7utQ2)
I think they said "passengers." Which doesn't completely discount the possibility that at least one of them was a hapless goat.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 12:23 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 04:08 PM (oA4y0)
here, ladies & gentlemen, is the passive-aggressive Internet Coward, spewing hate from Mom's basement
Posted by: Group Capt Lionel Mandrake at September 11, 2011 12:23 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: gm at September 11, 2011 04:21 PM (K0tm3)
That's an interesting statement.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 12:23 PM (biYc0)
Don't put that finger in your ear! You don't know where it's been.
Posted by: McCroskey at September 11, 2011 12:23 PM (WMRVn)
Posted by: Group Capt Lionel Mandrake at September 11, 2011 12:25 PM (UqKQV)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 04:22 PM (7utQ2)
Three ewoks board a plane..... nah... couldn't happen.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2011 12:26 PM (rAzGJ)
Posted by: joe dagostino at September 11, 2011 12:26 PM (TUXol)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 12:27 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 04:27 PM
I've noticed that the muzzies are always demanding, and never offering
Posted by: kbdabear at September 11, 2011 12:30 PM (Y+DPZ)
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 04:23 PM (/ybwc)
dang it, where is PITA when we need them?
Posted by: Racefan at September 11, 2011 12:30 PM (VJBDN)
Posted by: Blaster at September 11, 2011 12:30 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Lauren at September 11, 2011 12:31 PM (VKD8C)
AFTER he had the nomination.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 12:33 PM (7utQ2)
Regarding Chile 9/11 1973, our cowardly CIA overthrow of Allende resulted in the deaths of tens of thousands of college students, labor leaders, idealists ... more deaths than 3,000 Americans 9/11 2001. Do the math.
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 12:35 PM (oA4y0)
what more do they want us to do to show our tolerance??? Muslims demand respect, and demand that it is given to them, and we do.
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 04:27 PM (6IV8T)
Slit our own throats.
Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2011 12:35 PM (GULKT)
Dear Mr. Krugman,
I cannot quite decide wether it should be a pike or a meat hook.
Do you have a pregerence?
Posted by: mghorning at September 11, 2011 12:36 PM (I4/a/)
Posted by: Blaster at September 11, 2011 12:36 PM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Osama, sleepin' with the fishes. at September 11, 2011 12:38 PM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Chuckit at September 11, 2011 12:38 PM (5eW1z)
Posted by: Blaster at September 11, 2011 12:38 PM (Fw2Gg)
Let me take your argument with all the consideration it deserves. Fuck you sideways with the barbed cock of Satan for thinking I need to admit I'm wrong for having the audacity to be a woman with a brain and a clit who dares to use both. Fuck you triple sideways with a pineapple for believing I need to have the emotional and mental courage to let people lop off my head.
Posted by: alexthechick at September 11, 2011 12:39 PM (Gk3SS)
Finally made it to what's left of his brain.
Posted by: spirochete bacteria Treponema at September 11, 2011 12:41 PM (rZ3UV)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at September 11, 2011 12:42 PM (dow7k)
Posted by: Drew in MO at September 11, 2011 12:42 PM (UtAjU)
Slit our own throats.
Posted by: buzzion at September 11, 2011 04:35 PM (GULKT)
Whoa now, that's what Muslim fathers do to their own daughters who have been raped. That's just crazy talk.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 12:44 PM (biYc0)
Posted by: cantankerous at September 11, 2011 12:47 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 04:35 PM (oA4y0)
The Chileans overthrew Allende on their own, after their Parliament and Supreme Court demanded he stop violating the Chilean Constitution. In doing so, they prevented tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, of deaths that would have occurred if he had been able to secure power for himself as dictator and establish a communist regime. This doesn't excuse the human rights violations of the Pinochet regime after the coup, but it was useful idiots like yourself who gave Allende sufficient power that he couldn't be removed by peaceful means.
Posted by: SCoaMF at September 11, 2011 12:47 PM (gjsMD)
Posted by: Holger at September 11, 2011 12:47 PM (zaVyn)
The Mumbling Stutterfuck of a Misanthropic Phlemspewer
Runs interference and attacks the enemies of
The Stumbling Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.
Posted by: West at September 11, 2011 12:48 PM (NCWs1)
Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 11, 2011 04:43 PM (Lt/Za)
We only take people with lot's of money or some skills we can use here.
We already created a society of unmotivated do nothings so thanks but no thanks for the offer.
Posted by: Cuba or Yemen at September 11, 2011 12:49 PM (rZ3UV)
Posted by: cantankerous at September 11, 2011 04:47 PM (k1rwm)
Wha...?
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 12:49 PM (UZuc4)
Posted by: the last patriot in Chicago at September 11, 2011 12:49 PM (Uw9Le)
Sigh
Could you please tell me why you are buying into the notion that hate is not "good"?
Sheesh.
If you don't hate evil, you are a fucking fool.
All I would need to do is crush your child's head like a grapefruit while you watched and you would know what hatred is, and you would know it was good.
Posted by: Pastorius at September 11, 2011 12:51 PM (h+zY8)
Last Yellowstone caldera eruption? America's fault. Google it!
Posted by: alexthechick at September 11, 2011 12:52 PM (Gk3SS)
Krugman, Obama. MSoaMP, SCoaMF.
The Mumbling Stutterfuck of a Misanthropic Phlemspewer
Runs interference and attacks the enemies of
The Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.
Posted by: West at September 11, 2011 12:52 PM (NCWs1)
ace,
Excellent, excellent, excellent article. As always you are able to articulte in a precise way things I only sort of grope after.
Oh, and sorry if this is not quite appropriate to say on this solem day, but Barrak Obamma is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: Annoying guy what talks like Yoda at September 11, 2011 12:54 PM (q177U)
Posted by: Pastorius at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (h+zY8)
Just unfortunate that with ones like Parker and Krugman no one stepped on them in the nest.
And Walter? SOMEONE could have stomped on his rock.
Posted by: irongrampa at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (ud5dN)
Posted by: DKCZ at September 11, 2011 12:55 PM (gjsMD)
This "coming together" thing that all the Democrats and media (birm) are telling us that they gave to America, only to have GWB somehow throw away again... I do not think it means what they think it means.
In my mind, the Democrats in the government, the media, and academia pretending to love America more than their party for a few days is not "coming together": it was merely a temporary disguise they had to assume for their continued security and popularity.
Posted by: sherlock at September 11, 2011 12:58 PM (CkxJi)
And yet....today Chile is a vibrant democracy with the highest per capita GDP in South America.
The problem with your "logic" about U.S trespasses is that your definition of "trespass" would subject whole countries and religions to oppression--I remember the Cold War and the empty values of your kind. Let's talk about Salvador Allende, Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro, and Che Guevara being in your pantheon of supposed heroes. Carter's fecklessness resulted in Iran being subsumed under the yoke of people who would make the Shah blush were he still alive. People like you are as predictable as the sunrise--so is your cowardly moral relativism.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at September 11, 2011 12:59 PM (7utQ2)
Krugman ought to stick to economics, which is his "forte". At least, it's the thing he's least worst at.
Posted by: Roy at September 11, 2011 01:04 PM (tiOTz)
All of Parker's thoughts are about how see sees herself through her cracked mirror.
The bitch, she is messed up. In the head.
Posted by: Doug S at September 11, 2011 01:06 PM (bGgEi)
Posted by: Drew in MO at September 11, 2011 01:07 PM (UtAjU)
America no longer knows itself
---because of the whining PC pussies who have forced us to give up our own culture (by adopting anything/everything but what our traditional values and morals would deem acceptable) and let our enemies walk all over us (because otherwise we're racist or intolerant or isolationist or whateverTF)...
--because justice is no longer 'blind'-- it must now know whether you belong to a protected class.
--because the acid-dropping, tree-hugging, crybaby dope-dreamers have taken control of our government and f*cked it all up.
Let's start drug-testing in DC. I wonder how many of them show positive for heroin?
Posted by: Stillwater at September 11, 2011 01:17 PM (0GpN4)
Posted by: DKCZ at September 11, 2011 04:55 PM (gjsMD)
Read Jonah Goldberg's book, he didn't abandon anything.
Posted by: AmishDude at September 11, 2011 01:21 PM (73tyQ)
I think using "goodthinkers" instead of "bien pensant" is more mocking.
Posted by: meep at September 11, 2011 01:21 PM (EiBu7)
All of Parker's thoughts are about how see sees herself through her cracked mirror.
The bitch, she is messed up. In the head.
Posted by: Doug S at September 11, 2011 05:06 PM (bGgEi)
She has a self-portrait in her attic that is just fabulous!
Posted by: AmishDude at September 11, 2011 01:22 PM (73tyQ)
We threw the first punch; we got hit back.
Simple.....(except for those with a missing gene for logic)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 04:08 PM (oA4y0)
It's so easy for some fucker who lives his life sitting on the bench to say this; too fucking easy.
Posted by: Darth Rove at September 11, 2011 01:22 PM (BEjYW)
American Thinker blog.
Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 11, 2011 01:37 PM (6IV8T)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 01:45 PM (oA4y0)
American Thinker blog.
Reading it now, and it is excellent, thanks for the link, chillin. And I would just like to pause in my reading to say that SCoaMF is too kind. This shitbird is a festering pustule of ignorance and hatred that has somehow attached itself to America. He makes me want to puke.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 01:47 PM (/ybwc)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 01:49 PM (oA4y0)
Am I really supposed to give a shit about your moral altruism, i.e., "the CIA killed more people than 9-11 ever did?" It's. weak. You're such a great altruist but yet I bet you'd be the first to try and fuck my old lady if you were left alone with her for five minutes.
Posted by: Darth Rove at September 11, 2011 01:54 PM (BEjYW)
Posted by: NY Betsy Rose at September 11, 2011 01:56 PM (a/wJb)
Ron Paul has it right!!
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 02:02 PM (oA4y0)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 06:02 PM (oA4y0)
Why does it not surprise anyone that you are a fuckin' Paultard? Go away, you are not only stupid, but boring as well. Plus, I'm pretty sure you have woefully inadequate genitalia.
Posted by: Peaches at September 11, 2011 02:07 PM (/ybwc)
With all due respect: I'm absolutely certain this purging of hatred from one's heart is a much more difficult undertaking than the bien pensants imagine.
************
I think you're right. Just take a look at the behavior of lefty New Age guru Deepak Chopra. He sells millions of books telling people that they must be "non judgmental" because they can never know what is in another person's heart. Then he goes on t.v. (and writes columns for print media) and suggests that former AK Governor Sarah Palin is, among other things, cowardly, materialistic, dumb, a nativist bigot, etc.
So apparently in Leftyland, it is terribly wrong to hate (and to judge) others . . . unless those others have a different political philosophy from your own, in which case it's perfectly acceptable, and maybe even mandatory, to loathe them (but only because it's for their own good, or something).
Posted by: AZC at September 11, 2011 02:08 PM (0oi10)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at September 11, 2011 02:10 PM (cbyrC)
Posted by: walter at September 11, 2011 02:14 PM (oA4y0)
Posted by: Nicholas III upside down in the 8th circle of hell at September 11, 2011 02:18 PM (/u3tX)
<i>we have no right to impose our way on Chileans, Guatemalans, Iraqis, etc</i>
Nor do those who would impose Socialism, even if they have 50.1% popular support, have the right to impose socialism on the sizable portion of their population that is unwilling. No right whatsoever. Popular call of a majority is not justification for removing rights of a minority. The ever overused "well if they want to try it why should we" totally forgets the fact that only some of the people, and perhaps only a vocal and insistent minority, may want to try socialism.
Do not stand back with your lazzis faire attitude and stand in moral judgement that inaction due to lack of moral authority to act is somehow a virtue when faced with another lacking a moral authority to act, moving to enslave the unwilling.
The world is more complicated then black and white. And we will never know what would have happened had we not acted. But to claim it was somehow morally superior to allow a country to fall to hard socialism, when we know how that has ended in every case, is to not even grapple with the real tough questions of morality. And is an indicator that someone is not ready to participate meaningfully in world politics.
Posted by: MikeTheMoose at September 11, 2011 02:23 PM (GE1+K)
Posted by: robtr at September 11, 2011 04:01 PM (MtwBb)
This.
Kathleen Parker is an insecure, menopausal mess who became unglued when her fairly new 3rd or 4th husband liked Sarah Palin's legs. She has not been the same since. I used to like her before she became the unhinged liberal sycophant trolling for readers. Her columns, prior to her crazy train, were milquetoast but readable little ditties on raising children, family values, etc. Rarely original or complex thinking, but I read her for years over my coffee.
She attempts to appeal to the masses for readership numbers, but managed to get kicked out of conservative Townhall after her Palin rabid hissy fits. CNRO rarely links her drivel except on weekends when her sweet friend, Kathryn Jean Lopez, links her. Jonah Goldberg washed his hands of her when she went with Client 9 and wondered how quickly that show would be off the air. After her Palin unhingement she also was one beat behind the news or any type of original thought, sort of like Mitt Romney, testing wind direction. She won the Pulitzer with the cost of her conservative readers. Her complete downfall was her show with Spitzer, where she publically showed the country how low she would limbo for attention.
I will be happy whenever the MSM finally considers her one of them. She is no conservative, that is for sure. She is a fake conservative at best, who changes her color as fast as a chameleon with each face lift.
Posted by: ChristyBlinky at September 11, 2011 02:32 PM (baL2B)
Wha...?
Posted by: joejm65 at September 11, 2011 04:49 PM (UZuc4)
sorry, posted and then went to church.
It seems like the two of them are putting in print what their cohorts have been whispering about for awhile. When people start with stuff like this they sound just like the truthers to me.
Posted by: cantankerous at September 11, 2011 02:47 PM (k1rwm)
Posted by: NC Mountain Girl at September 11, 2011 03:42 PM (dow7k)
Posted by: Art Rooney at September 11, 2011 04:07 PM (/q/kQ)
Posted by: Zombie FDR at September 11, 2011 04:19 PM (2ptZ1)
Posted by: Zombie LBJ at September 11, 2011 04:25 PM (gakCe)
Parker, Krugman, et. al. are responsible for all the mindless American hand-wringing and islamophobia pc about what is otherwise perfectly justified...outright hatred of those who wish us wiped off the face of this earth.
Intense longterm fear of anything or anyone will ultimately lead to hate for same thing/one if allowed to be expressed appropriately. If fear and hate are not recognised, expressed, and managed externally and appropriately both emotions will be turned inwardly towards self or outwardly to an inappropriate target. The purpose of terror is to strike fear in people. Consequently, the corresponding hate for and targeting of terrorists and their actions is completely justified, especially in a self preservation sense. What Krugman and Parker express, encourage, and justify is the inappropriate repression or expression of terrorist fear/hate that has lead to naive dismissal, ambivalence, and destructive self blame, both individually and collectively.
Posted by: inatizzy at September 11, 2011 04:32 PM (+vVib)
Posted by: ExExZonie at September 11, 2011 05:02 PM (HhqrH)
Yes, we are threatened by internal political forces but make no doubt, Islam is a huge threat to our way of life. The two are working in concert with each other.
Posted by: ErikW at September 11, 2011 03:36 PM (biYc0)
Yeah, they are commanded by the same entity. The one with the barbed cock.
Posted by: ExExZonie at September 11, 2011 05:04 PM (HhqrH)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at September 11, 2011 05:13 PM (gakCe)
Kathleen et al. Let me keep it simple. No words longer than eight letters. You attack me or mine. I kick your ass from here to sundown. Next day I start again--rinse and repeat until done.
See how simple that was? Nothing more than two syllables. Good Advice for Morons.
Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 11, 2011 05:19 PM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: philmon at September 11, 2011 05:23 PM (omF6C)
Posted by: philmon at September 11, 2011 05:33 PM (omF6C)
Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein at September 11, 2011 05:44 PM (ndu11)
Posted by: P at September 11, 2011 05:55 PM (A9Zvy)
Posted by: Rip Van at September 11, 2011 07:11 PM (u+8qs)
Kathleen and President Obama are exactly right. I blame the vast right wing conspiracy for splooging all over the blue dress body politic.
Posted by: Hill Clinton at September 11, 2011 07:13 PM (u+8qs)
Kathleen Paker is a douche bag. ( How's that? )
Posted by: Occam's floss at September 11, 2011 07:17 PM (u+8qs)
Posted by: jeannebodine, sum b*tch at September 11, 2011 07:26 PM (nvlAW)
Posted by: joeindc44 at September 11, 2011 09:16 PM (u9B7L)
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate, thatÂ’s our creed.
Wipe out Violence, Intolerance and Greed.
WeÂ’re gonna start right now, tomorrow is too late.
WeÂ’re gonna stamp! Out! Hate!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate, stamp it in the ground
And then take Happiness and spread it all around
WeÂ’ll put an end to Grief, we can hardly wait
WeÂ’re gonna stamp! Out! Hate!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate, sock it in the eye
Shoot it in the stomach, yelling Die! Die! Die!
WeÂ’ll pull its insides out, and look at what it ate
WeÂ’re gonna stamp! Out! Hate!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate, lash it with a switch!
Amputate its arms and legs and see how long they twitch!
We’ll put its toes on hooks and dangle ‘em for bait!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp! Out! Hate!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate, show it whoÂ’s the boss
Take it up a lonely hill and nail it to a cross
WonÂ’t it be kicks to watch the blood coagulate?
WeÂ’re gonna stamp! Out! Hate!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate. Poke it with a pick.
Chill it til itÂ’s solid, then weÂ’ll sell it on a stick.
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate. Kill without a trace.
Stick a finger up its nose and pull it off its face!
WeÂ’re gonna stamp out Hate. Lynch him with a rope.
Find a Nazi doctor who can boil him down for soap.
WeÂ’ll pull his teeth right out and sell the silver plate . . . . .
(A door opens — footsteps approach…)
(spoken) Ladies and Gentlemen. In these troubled times
I think thereÂ’s a lesson to be learned from these dedicated young peopleÂ…
(whispered “okay, get the door.”) …
getting together on a, uh, eh?
(whispered “hold him still.”)
(The singers garrote the speaker, drop him to the ground,
and then walk away nonchalantly,
as they whistle the final bar of the song.)
WeÂ’re going to staaaamp Â…. ouuuut Â…. haaate Â…..
Posted by: Sistrum at September 11, 2011 10:08 PM (0ohaR)
What an utter dumb shit. When the Revolutionary War ended with freedom for the former colonies, many Americans who supported the British cause picked up and moved to Canada.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at September 12, 2011 05:41 AM (1hM1d)
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Posted by: Paul Krugman at September 11, 2011 10:45 AM (zyaZ1)