1 Doom has expired?!

2 doom thread with an Easter hangover sucks.......

3 Kitteh pic fail?

As for the welfare State, it will continue right up until the government collapses because the Dems own it and the Repubs are scared to mess with it.

4 Doom kitteh link has expired, . 

5 Is this post modern kitteh art?

6 did the kitteh expire or just the link?

7 pixdaus the new doom kitteh.....

8

New York Times Headline November 11, 1918.

 

"The Spot of Bother in Europe Finally Comes to an End"

9 Ah,? good? news - DOOM has been renewed.

10 On the "defined benefit plans" most large private companies have elliminated them because they are too expensive in the long run.

Most have gone to the "cash balance" system (which is what I have). It sucks compared to the old system but it is better than nothing.

Guess which companies still have the old system? if you said union you would be correct and that includes the government.

11

Doom! DOOM! DOOOOOOM!

That's the scene from LOTR right? Where those guys are so totally bon...

Oh yeah, I see your point.

12 That'll learn me to find my whimsical cat photos on some site that's being run from a VIC-20....

13 RIP USDX .

14 Hey, if its a VIC-20 has to be good.

15 So glad that the $900B stimulus is only "disappointing."  We really skirted disaster on that one!  Just think if it had been a catastrophe sending us down the crap shoot.  Whew, that was close!  {swipes hand across forehead}

16 oh yeah WE are bad at predicting - yet people were predicting all this at least 5 yrs ago.  It's our eCONomists bureaucrats and media SHILLS who missed it!

17 Fuck it.  Have a beer.

18

They, the politicians from both sides, and the leftleaning spox and economists, that what we fear isn't going to happen.

It keeps happening!

The visual keeps popping into my mind where the Borg Queen tells Picard, “Watch your future’s end.”

WeÂ’re all Picard now!

19 We should be allowed to print our own money .

20 At this point we should just let oBama and the Dems have whatever they want budgetwise. Our fate is already written and no amount of half-hearted Repubs will stop it. You just know whatever pissant concessions the Dems will make for the Repubs will be used as the scapegoat when TSHTF. For me I'm going to max out the number of exemptions on my W4 and stop paying federal witholding.

21 it's not doom until the kitteh says it's doom

22

WeÂ’re all Picard now!

Not me. I still have hair.

23 i'm having a jelly bean problem here.......

24 17 Fuck it.  Have a beer.       Goober says have a grape Nehi and smile.

25 I'm ready to start storing supplies in a cave...but caves are hard to find here on the flatlands.

26 Message to our enemies including the Euro-Trash and Chinese; the assault on America guided by the current White House occupant ends in roughly two years. And while in that time he will continue to do all within his power to relegate our country to perpetual second-rate status and attempt install permanent structures to keep America there and divide our countrymen between the rich and poor, black and white, have's and have-not's to create everlasting disunity- it won't last.

When we fix it, we will have long memories, pointy sticks and will be coming for you.

 

27 We really suck at predicting the future. Yes, but I predict that in 6 to 8 years we'll be about to predict the future with 100% accuracy.

28 able to*

29

Congress is setting up hearings and committees to "investigate" gas prices as if the government had, and has, nothing to do with the swirling porcelain whirlpool we find ourselves descending into.

Well served.  That's exactly how I would describe us.

30

As I see it, the biggest failure of the stimulus (in all its forms) has been that it has been used to purchase nothing but overhead.  The token efforts at infrastructure improvements were largely waste projects (bike paths and other useless crap), or paying for projects already undertaken by the states.  Most dollars went to maintaining employment in government that already existed - not for creating anything new.  Had the state governments been forced to shrink and eliminate bureaucrats and other excess workers, and had the stimulus spending gone to something useful and productive, the results would have been better, at least short term, and given us a breather to work out the serious policy problems we're facing. 

The Fed is doing nothing more than using the very limited tools at its disposal to try (perhaps in vain) hold things together.  The real blame for our problems rests on the federal government and its inability to spend wisely. 

Regardless, I remain concerned that our leaders will do little other than fight over spending.  I see no progress being made to eliminate wasteful regulation, nor to improve our energy supplies, or any other improvement that will actually provide a better private economy.  That's the real problem.  Unemployment will remain bad until those corrections are made.  Even if we get the budget cuts we want, the confidence fairies will not be enough to prevent the additional leg down in employment that cutting off spending will create. 

31 Monty, we like your spirit, but you've still got a long way to go if you're aspiring to reach Krugman levels of doom and asininity.

32

via Drudge:  Lightning striking at White House on Easter night...

Jesus is coming and he is pissed.

33 When we fix it, we will have long memories, pointy sticks and will be coming for you.

Posted by: Marcus at April 25, 2011 09:47 AM (CHrmZ)

I like the way you think.  It's nice to have some hopeful words now and then.

34 Doom may have arrived. According to a piece at Hotair, the ChiComs are about to stop buying our debt. With Japan about to sell our debt to pay for Tsunami recovery, all options other than stop borrowing money are off the table.

35 I compare QE2 to spackling compound. It didn't really "repair" anything so much as just cover up various cracks and holes. The structural weakness is still there. In fact, it's worse because now it's hidden in many ways and therefore easier to miss or ignore.

36 Does anyone know of a pledge or something that can be signed by individuals making it known that the person signing will not be responsible for paying the federal debt?

37 Does anyone know of a pledge or something that can be signed by individuals making it known that the person signing will not be responsible for paying the federal debt?

Would be nice.  So of course, there's no way it can possibly be legit...

38 Doom! Yes the Chinese are signaling they aren't going to bend over and take it anymore from us. No matter how much Quantitative Easing we use.

39 Does anyone know of a pledge or something that can be signed by individuals making it known that the person signing will not be responsible for paying the federal debt?

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:53 AM (jT08R)

Yes, it's called a death certificate.

40 I can't see how an individual citizen is personally liable for government debts.

41 I can't see how an individual citizen is personally liable for government debts.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:58 AM (jT08R)

All you bases are belong to us. China.

42 I can't see how an individual citizen is personally liable for government debts. Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:58 AM (jT08R) Oh you don't hey? And your Social Security Number is ?

43

Posted this over in the Headlines thread, but seeing the mention of Paul Ryan above I thought it worthwhile to move it over here, too.  The left really DOESN'T understand anything, does it?  Like the fact that wanting to rein in spending and restore a little fiscal sanity doesn't make you evil.

----

HuffWatch has released a new report about death threats being posted in HuffPo comments by a serial lefty whackjob:

Our newest special report documents the fact that for the third time in two months, HuffPost has allowed one of its most long-term, threat-spewing, radical leftist Moderators to return to the site, after banning him. These bans occurred almost immediately after our reports on HuffPost's and his actions were published, in December 2010 and February 2011.

So much for new tone.

Disturbingly, this loon appears to have developed a particularly virulent hatred for Paul Ryan, and has intimated several times that he lives near Ryan's district and plans on "infiltrating" a Ryan event.  In light of the Tucson massacre, I think this psycho needs a visit from the police.

H/T PJ Tatler

44  I can't see how an individual citizen is personally liable for government debts.

Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:58 AM (jT08R)

No one individual will be fingered for any specific dollar figure.  But you can rest assured that no matter how you parse the semantics, we're all on the hook.  You can't escape taxes, and it's not like some portion of your personal taxes go to fund specific things, debt or otherwise.  They don't.

Go ahead and try to pay only part of your taxes.  I do wish you luck.  But personally I think you'll be disappointed with the results. 

45 Fareed Zakaria is still a boneheaded nincompoop.

46 That last DOOOOOOM! link to the NYT really hacks me off. "The top 1 percent own 35 percent of the nation's wealth and their share of income is 20 percent." WRONG, asshole. What is their share of the nation's wealth? ZERO. They own 100 percent of their wealth and you own 100 percent of yours. Quit fucking whining about what everyone else has and work on making your 100 percent larger.

47 Not to upstage the DOOM! thread here, but you may want to read how the good folks in Rankin County, MS handled the Westboro cocksuckers.

You'll want to read this!

48

You can't escape taxes...

 

Unless you're General Electric, of course...

49

You know what's particularly sad about the gas price map posted by sig over on the Headlines thread?  The fact that the low end of the scale is "< $3.50."  That's just... pathetic.  When the BEST you can hope for is still more than $3/gal, it's time to start hoarding ammo, food, and assless leather chaps.

50

Is that the same Fareed Zakharia who declared Paul Ryan's Debt Reduction plan an unserious proposal but then two days later declared Obama's debt reduction plan a serious proposal.

 

You see, when you raise taxes it means you're proposal is serious.

51 Yes, it's called a death certificate. But you'll still vote goddammit!

52 It's good to see a DOOOM kitteh that doesn't look like it just woke up from a four-day bender.

53 Help me out with this. Why is it that the ninnies the pollsters poll consistently give much higher "approval" ratings to the president as compared to the congress? Just wondering, is all.

54 Every Democrat that spoke out against Drill, Baby, Drill should have those statements repeated every time the price of gas goes up. Hinchey, Garamindi, Pallone and others will have  tough time defending their position in 2012 when gas is over $6.00 per gallon.

55

 it's time to start hoarding ammo, food, and assless leather chaps.

I think all morons know that chaps are by nature assless.

56 death does not release you from your estates obligation to pay taxes....

57 35 I compare QE2 to spackling compound. It didn't really "repair" anything so much as just cover up various cracks and holes. The structural weakness is still there. In fact, it's worse because now it's hidden in many ways and therefore easier to miss or ignore.

Posted by: Monty at April 25, 2011 09:53 AM (/0a60)

I compare QE2 to the Hindenburg. The only thing it is "easing" us towards is an economic disaster. Prices are soaring and the Dollar is so diluted it is getting dangerous. I think they have actually created the perfect storm.

The only thing left is for major debt holder to start shedding our debt and there are some signs that may be selectively happening.

58

Supreme Court Rejects Virginia Request for Review of Health Care Law

Breaking from Fox, no details yet...

59 If the little bit of money you have is being consumed by gas and food prices, this guy has some advice:  Get a better job.

via blogprof

60

"The top 1 percent own 35 percent of the nation's wealth and their share of income is 20 percent."

i hate this too. Wealth is made/created, not "owned" in the merchantilist sense.

It's not a pie static in size that we all take a slice from.

61 I expect one day our populace will elect someone to higher office that will promise not to pay back the federal debt, or maybe 25% on the dollar to no US holders. (I'm looking at you Trump).

62

Supreme Court Rejects Virginia Request for Review of Health Care Law

Breaking from Fox, no details yet...

So it's unconstitutional? If the supreme court won't hear it, does that mean the Florida and Virginia rulings stand?

63 54 Every Democrat that spoke out against Drill, Baby, Drill should have those statements repeated every time the price of gas goes up. Hinchey, Garamindi, Pallone and others will have tough time defending their position in 2012 when gas is over $6.00 per gallon. Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at April 25, 2011 10:08 AM (EcAS1) Yes, but it will take 10 years to bring newly drilled oil online.

64

Meanwhile - creepy democrats are doing what they do best - LIE.

San Fran leftwing luntic and destroyer of whole nations - Nancy Pelosi is out there lying that Paul Ryan wants to destroy medicare by... you know - trying to actually fix it.  and then she spews the same lefty lie about giving tax breaks to the rich. All while Obama doens't even pay his fair share.

65 It's not a pie static in size that we all take a slice from. Not to the political Left. "Wealth" belongs to the collective, not to the individual. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need", remember? There is no such thing as "your money"; there is only money that the government allows you to use. Hence the war on the "rich". It reminds me of that thing Ronald Reagan used to say about how leftists couldn't see a fat man standing next to a thin man without feeling as though the fat man had somehow taken advantage of the thin man in some way.

66 26 Message to our enemies including the Euro-Trash and Chinese; the assault on America guided by the current White House occupant ends in roughly two years. .....When we fix it, we will have long memories, pointy sticks and will be coming for you.

No offense, but why should they believe that? Your countrymen are ADD-afflicted and passive. they're happy being BONED. There will be no pushback.

67

So it's unconstitutional? If the supreme court won't hear it, does that mean the Florida and Virginia rulings stand?

Posted by: Ben at April 25, 2011 10:10 AM (wuv1c)

I don't know. Wasn't this a request for an expedited ruling? Maybe they are just saying they have to go through the whole process.

68 You see, when you raise taxes it means you're proposal is serious. I was revisiting the early budget debates in RCP's comment section on MTP, in which they invited Anita Dunn to deliver the Democrat talking points. Then the other guests were Alex Castellanos, David Brooks and Eugene Robinson. Someone pointed out that David Brooks is not really all that conservative, and I recalled when the White House actually dictated his column after an earlier one said the budget was liberal and irresponsible. He was contacted by four senior staffers and retracted everything he said, but he made an important distinction: higher energy costs were part of the plan all along, but they would be offset by "middle class tax cuts" which will now be tax increases on the middle class in addition to higher energy costs. Don't you love liberals?

69 Supreme Court Rejects Virginia Request for Review of Health Care Law Breaking from Fox, no details yet... Posted by: AoSHQ's worst commenter, DarkLord© at April 25, 2011 10:09 AM (GBXon) I'm just guessing that is the request for an expedited review. And that just means this will never get to the court before the 2012 election, but then I don't really know shit

70 NYT Chernobyl headline:

Shenanigans Result in Minor Mishap at Power Plant.

71 I don't know. Wasn't this a request for an expedited ruling? Maybe they are just saying they have to go through the whole process. Posted by: Rocks at April 25, 2011 10:14 AM (th0op) Yeah that's my guess also

72 Sidebar shows Ras has Precedent F*ckwit at -18?  What will it take to send this disaster of Biblical proportions down further?  Look at where we are, for crissakes.  He's been hovering around this number for, what, over a year??  At this point, are people just not going to budge on their opinion of his, give or take a small fraction?  It's really astonishing.  Polls being what they are and all that....but still.  I mean, COME ON.

73 Still trying to get other info on the Virginia thing.  Might need to wait a few before anything more specific hits the intarwebs...

74 53 Help me out with this. Why is it that the ninnies the pollsters poll consistently give much higher "approval" ratings to the president as compared to the congress?

Just wondering, is all.

Posted by: I'mWithStupid at April 25, 2011 10:07 AM (xhNbo)

That would be from fear of being called a RAAAAACISSST if you don't approve of Preznit Obammy.  But most people can't name 1/100th of Congress, let alone their racial makeup, so it's an approval free-for-all.

75 Courts Supreme Court Rejects Request for Expedited Hearing on Health Law Challenge By Lee Ross Published April 25, 2011 | FoxNews.com Print Email Share Comments (0) The legal fight over President Obama's health care overhaul will apparently go through normal legal channels after the Supreme Court on Monday announced it will not expedite a major lawsuit from Virginia challenging the controversial law.

76 36 Does anyone know of a pledge or something that can be signed by individuals making it known that the person signing will not be responsible for paying the federal debt?Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:53 AM (jT08R)

Yes, I believe it is called a renunciation of citizenship. And if I'm not mistaken, you have to pay to leave....

77

I think all morons know that chaps are by nature assless.

Posted by: Ben at April 25, 2011 10:08 AM (wuv1c)

This is true. 

78 If the supreme court won't hear it, does that mean the Florida and Virginia rulings stand?

Depends on what the appeals court rules. They didn't think expedited review would happen anyway.

79 Get a better job. And buy a new car!

80 But you're gonna have to give up some pie!

81 Ah, here it is...yeah, it just means no expedited process for that suit.  So June '12 if we're lucky, unless one of the other suits gets expedited, which seems kinda unlikely now.

82 Yeah SCOTUS is punting on the Virginia lawsuit for now.

83

Hence the war on the "rich". It reminds me of that thing Ronald Reagan used to say about how leftists couldn't see a fat man standing next to a thin man without feeling as though the fat man had somehow taken advantage of the thin man in some way.

Yeah, that was from his Time for Choosing speech, which was his best in my opinion.

84 But you're gonna have to give up some pie!

Posted by: Meanchelle at April 25, 2011 10:19 AM (mHQ7T)

You've had enough pie.  You can't have mine!

85

Thanks, SCOTUS!  *headdesk*

Well, an expedited hearing was just a dream made out of fairy dust and unicorn glitter anyway.  *sigh*

86 He's been hovering around this number for, what, over a year?? Because he's only 1//4 of the way into his first term! /

87 Has America already been taken over?

Is anything left but the lamentation of the women?

88 Fox says that the Virginia lawsuit will have to go through the usual channels, meaning no expedited review.

89 The 'How did Sarah Palin get it so right when she's a fuckin' retahd' story in the sidebar is a bucket full of laugh.

Who WOULDN'T see printing more currency to devalue the dollar so you can buy up the overspending and maintain your profligate waste in a shaky world economy as a GOOD idea? 

90 Australia will be fine. They are at the leading edge of a gigantic natural gas export boom.

91 I think that is a pretty good signal that Kennedy is on the fence and leaning right about the individual mandate though. If Libs thought they had the votes they would have pushed this.

92 Is anything left but the lamentation of the women? Posted by: Cherry π at April 25, 2011 10:21 AM (+sBB4) Well, there's always de lamentations of da vimmen. Which is subtly different.

93 The answer is modern nuclear power.

94 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt. I'm only half joking.

95 94 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt. I'm only half joking. Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2011 10:25 AM (IEZ0J) We would need to get about a billion tote bags, though.

96 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt. I'm only half joking. Offer a nifty Obama tote bag for donations over $100.

97 #95 we'd get the Chinese to make them. Win win.

98 89 The 'How did Sarah Palin get it so right when she's a fuckin' retahd' story in the sidebar is a bucket full of laugh.

Who WOULDN'T see printing more currency to devalue the dollar so you can buy up the overspending and maintain your profligate waste in a shaky world economy as a GOOD idea? 

Posted by: nickless at April 25, 2011 10:22 AM (i3VkX)

Heh, ain't it the truth! 

Of course, I'd like to direct everyone's attention to Zombie's blog post over at PJM from 4/23, chronicling Teh Won's trip to SanFran.  Allow me to quote Zombie's quote from one of the Preznit's supporters:

"Pay especial attention to the segment starting at 2:05, in which one Obama voter proposes, in all seriousness, her solution to the U.S. going into debt: 'ThatÂ’s an absolute shame. And I donÂ’t think we need to borrow any money. We print the money. So why do we need to borrow the money? Just print some more!' Why didnÂ’t I think of that? Economics 101!"

*HEADDESK HEADDESK HEADDESK*

99 Soon we will reach the point where this is not enough money on Earth to pay for our debts. [Insert Mars joke here]

100 In more good news Shell is abandoning drilling plans because the EPA has made it impossible

101 This new comment thingy is just swell.  Here's tiny to fox story about Shell

http://tinyurl.com/4373jlh

102 100 In more good news Shell is abandoning drilling plans because the EPA has made it impossible Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at April 25, 2011 10:31 AM (EcAS1) Wow. It's almost as if the government doesn't want anybody to explore for oil. Which is ridiculous, right? (RIGHT??!!??)

103 The Federal Government is Skynet.

104 103 The Federal Government is Skynet. Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 25, 2011 10:33 AM (x/Gxz) Right now I think life as a human battery would be less stressful.

105

Filed under, “Stuff You Already Know.” (Subtitled, “Smart Diplomacy”)

106 Here is how we get rid of this debt.

We take all of the douche-bags in congress and put them on a Japanese style game-show where they have to eat live bugs and get kicked repeatedly in the nuts amongst other things  to win prizes keep their jobs.  The event will last several years and be broadcast on world wide pay per view.

We just need a catchy name...

107 90 Australia will be fine. They are at the leading edge of a gigantic natural gas export boom.

Unless their own green-tards quell their natural gas production. 

108 94 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt. I'm only half joking.

Bake sale! 

109

From Christan Coalition Website:

OLD VERSION:The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter, so he dies out in the cold.

MODERN VERSION:
The ant works hard in the withering heat and the rain all summer long building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks the ant is a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while he is cold and starving.

CBS, NBC , PBS, CNN, and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to a video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast.

How can this be, that in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so? Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper and everybody cries when they sing, 'It's Not Easy Being Green.'

ACORN stages a demonstration in front of the ant's house where the news stations film the group singing, "We shall overcome." Then Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the group kneel down to pray to God for the grasshopper's sake. President Obama condemns the ant and blames President Bush, President Reagan, Christopher Columbus, and the Pope for the grasshopper's plight.

Nancy Pelosi & Harry Reid exclaim in an interview with Larry King that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and both call for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his fair share. Finally, the EEOC drafts the Economic Equity & Anti-Ant Act retroactive to the beginning of the summer.

The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the Government Green Czar and given to the grasshopper.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper and his free-loading friends finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he is in,which as you recall, just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around them because the grasshopper doesn't maintain it.

The ant has disappeared in the snow, never to be seen again. The grasshopper is found dead in a drug related incident, and the house, now abandoned, is taken over by a gang of spiders who terrorize the ramshackle, once prosperous and once peaceful, neighborhood. The entire Nation collapses bringing the rest of the free world with it.

110 Soon we will reach the point where this is not enough money on Earth to pay for our debts.

We're pretty close.

111 We just need a catchy name... Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 25, 2011 10:35 AM (pdRb1) The Punch Your Politicians in the Balls Show! (Not particularly catchy, but certainly satisfying.)

112 94 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt. I'm only half joking.

Posted by: polynikes at April 25, 2011 10:25 AM (IEZ0J)

I still say that we should start charging the rest of the world for every boot we put on the ground, plane we put in the air, ship we set sail, and piece of armament or tactical weapons technology we deploy on their behalf in any kind of combat situation.  The French and British want to use our military to bomb Libya?  Fine.  Pay us, or forgive our debt in corresponding amounts.  UN wants to use Americans as "peacekeepers" in some African hell hole?  Pay us.  Shipping lanes in the Indian Ocean want to depend on the US Navy to keep pirates at bay (not that this is working out all that great)?  Fine.  Pay us. 

I would, however, recommend NOT charging for humanitarian relief, such as our military has provided in Japan in the aftermath of the earthquake and tsunami.  We're a charitable nation by nature.  But if we're going to keep acting as the world's policemen we need to get compensated in one way or another.

113 103 The Federal Government is Skynet.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 25, 2011 10:33 AM (x/Gxz)

That would imply the Government is self-aware.  If only.

114

One thing I could never stand was to see a filthy, dirty old drunkie, howling away at the filthy songs of his fathers and going blerp, blerp in between, as it might be a filthy old orchestra in his stinking rotten guts. I could never stand to see anyone like that, whatever his age might be, but more especially when he was real old like this one was.

 

Goober'sreaction to Ed Schultz.

115 But if we're going to keep acting as the world's policemen we need to get compensated in one way or another.

Posted by: MWR at April 25, 2011 10:39 AM (4df7R)

And at a profitable rate, too. No getting 50% or 75% of the cost of military action. Especially for garrisoning Europe and South Korea. They can pay us or watch us leave.

116 Oops! Off with the old sock.

117

"ChinaÂ’s economy will surpass the U.S. in 2016"

118 It took the first black President to make the American people slaves.

119 Don't you need a super majority in SCOTUS for an expidited review? I know you only need 4 to accept a case for review in the first place. Sounds to me like the libs on the court are hoping someone dies first.

120 "51 Yes, it's called a death certificate. " Gotcha, smartass! Estate Tax!

121 I think President Obama is doing a fine job and Fox News, Limbaugh, Beck, and the other trouble makers are lying. President obama is trying to fix that IDIOT BUSH problems and we should support him 100%. Why are the republicans so mean and dasterly???

122 Heh.  Nice pic on Drudge of the White House getting hit by lightning last night.

Symbolic, indeed...

123

That botox pic has destroyed my morning wood.

Hopefully the effects are temporary.

124 Zakaria's not worth listening to. He's the prototypical liberal Toonce's ass kissing mouthpiece.

125 Americathon!

126

Symbolic, indeed...

I hope the rat is ok.

127 "51 Yes, it's called a death certificate. "

Gotcha, smartass! Estate Tax!

Posted by: millionaires defending the death tax at April 25, 2011 10:47 AM (cL0J2)

That isn't the dead guy's concern.

128 121 It took the first black President to make the American people slaves.

Posted by: Mr Pink at April 25, 2011 10:46 AM (50AER)

Place blame where blame belongs. The stupidity of the American electorate brought this plague. We earned it, we deserve it, we will endure it.

129 107 Here is how we get rid of this debt.

We take all of the douche-bags in congress and put them on a Japanese style game-show where they have to eat live bugs and get kicked repeatedly in the nuts amongst other things  to win prizes keep their jobs.  The event will last several years and be broadcast on world wide pay per view.

We just need a catchy name...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 25, 2011 10:35 AM (pdRb1)

THIS.

For a little cultural flavor, we could call it, "Batsu!"  The show's logo can be a couple of stick figures, one of whom (labeled "Constituent") is wearing a really big boot.  The other (labeled "Politician") can be huddled in a sniveling little ball, preparing to be booted by the Constituent. 

(Batsu has a few different meanings, but in most of the Japanese game shows and variety shows I watch it translates to "punishment."  One of the more common punishments I see is dropping a sturdy metal washpan on the offender's head.  The Japanese are... well, very Japanese.)

Or we could go for the Reality TV approach and call it something like "Dream Job!"  Because all these Congress Critters got elected and imagined it would be a dream job of endless perks and power, when in fact they end up getting kicked in the shins repeatedly by pissed off voters wearing steel-toed boots.

130 if you operate on the distaff side of the law-and-order divide from time to time

I always thought "distaff" meant "female."  Have I been wrong all these years?

131 I always thought "distaff" meant "female."  Have I been wrong all these years?

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 25, 2011 10:53 AM (081kp)

no, it refers to the female side of a family.

132 Posted by: iknowtheleft
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That's you kidding, right?  You're kidding.  Or insane?

Retaking control of the gulf oil fields ends all these problems.  It places a hard backing to the currency (if done correctly, though I have doubts about that being pulled off by the retards that inhabit Washington) along with taking out, in one fell swoop, just about 98% of all threats emanating from the arab/persian/muslim world, and that includes political as well as physical threats. 

I'm betting insane - or really naive.  We cannot even conduct a war in Afghanistan with no oil assets to protect.  You plan on drafting a few million young men to protect those oil fields?

133 Obama wanted to drag it out as long as possible so that it can in the implementation stages.

NONE of the justices excused themselves from the ruling.

134

it refers to the female side of a family.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at April 25, 2011 10:55 AM (6IReR)

To be fair, it's branched out in recent years to become a descriptor of the female side of just about anything, like sporting events, etc. 

 

135

I'm betting insane - or really naive. 

 

Wow.  ShyTownGerri calling IKtL naive...

never had popcorn with my coffee before.

136

I hope the rat is ok.

Posted by: garrett at April 25, 2011 10:51 AM (spbRY)

I wonder whatever happened to that little rodent?  I was rooting for it, whatever it was.  It looked more like a vole to me than a rat.  Either way I felt it had  more class and dignity than the actual rat in the Oval Office.

137 The stupidity of the American electorate brought this plague. We earned it, we deserve it, we will endure it.

No, it was the stupidity of the people who vot6ed for the 24th amendment with the BS all inclusive wording at the end.

That assured that the plunderers could vote themselves  a living. There will always be more plunderers than producers when the government is ruled by the plunderers.

138 128 Americathon!

Posted by: blaster at April 25, 2011 10:51 AM (l5dj7)

I forgot all about that movie.  Looking back now that seems like a prophecy. 

139

To be fair, it's branched out in recent years to become a descriptor of the female side of just about anything, like sporting events, etc. 

 

Posted by: MWR at April 25, 2011 10:58 AM (4df7R)

probably so, but I've tried to make it a habit the last couple years to stop helping the destruction of the language.

140 Ahh... more brilliance from this administration.

1. Announce we will not intervene in Syria.
2.  Syria starts the slaughter.
3. Send strongly worded letter.
4. Syria picks up the slaughter pace.

5.  So now we are considering.....OMG....sanctions!

6.  Profit.

141 So, if the CPI was truthful and included gas and food, what would it be? Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

142 WTF?

Clement firm drops DOMA case

The statement is silent on the reasons for the decision, but the firm faced protests at its Atlanta office and a national campaign against it. And now the House majority is looking for a new lawyer.

143

Kinda ot, but evidences another reason why we are doomed...

As with St. Pancake, “the narrative” is handily employed in the beatification of a new saint.

144 So, if the CPI was truthful and included gas and food, what would it be? Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

Posted by: PJ at April 25, 2011 11:03 AM (POf3u)

I think someone calculated that on a Doom thread last week.  I seem to remember they came up with 12%. 

145 145 WTF?

Clement firm drops DOMA case

The statement is silent on the reasons for the decision, but the firm faced protests at its Atlanta office and a national campaign against it. And now the House majority is looking for a new lawyer.

Posted by: Rocks at April 25, 2011 11:04 AM (th0op)

Everyone, hey!  Hey, come look!  Come see all these idiot protesters trampling the rule of law and order!  YAY!  Thanks, President Obama!  Thanks for opting to no longer carry out the duties of your office!  This is great!

146 Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

http://tinyurl.com/mg6z5

147 @145, is that the same firm who handled the Taco Bell beef complaint?

148 Fareed?  Wasn't that the kid on Our Gang?  Oh right, that was Farina.

149 147 So, if the CPI was truthful and included gas and food, what would it be? Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

Posted by: PJ at April 25, 2011 11:03 AM (POf3u)

I think someone calculated that on a Doom thread last week.  I seem to remember they came up with 12%. 

Posted by: Tami at April 25, 2011 11:05 AM (VuLos)

It's not inflation, it's the Fed de-valuing the dollar (same effect - different cause). By making dollars cheap, multi-national businesses can reap profits (ala GE) overseas.

150 I thought it was the DOJ and the solicitor general who were supposed to fight for laws that were passed.

But, I guess it is better to simply surrender above board than it is to put in one of those "non-defense defenses" like they have done in the past.

151

 Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

While we're at it...anyone got a link to my daughters porn?

152 @148 There you go again. Boasting of your ignorance of geography. You certainly are a bundle of strong opinions, aren't you?

153 150 Has anyone computed the real inflation rate for consumers?

http://tinyurl.com/mg6z5

Posted by: Vic at April 25, 2011 11:07 AM (M9Ie6)

I know most food items in Oregon have gone up 30-50% in the last 6 months.  Of course none of this has anything to do with our stoopid voters deciding to raise taxes on business owners and the rich.

"Oregon Voters Tax the Rich.....Poor People Hardest Hit"

154 Ok, naive it is.  You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Look at this map of Libya alone:  http://tli.tl/hetm44

Lybya - which is a fairly small producer compared to others - has oil fields spread all over the place.  Add to that the refineries which must be protected - as well as staffed, unless you plan on staffing all the oil fields with Americans as well - and the ports (same thing?).

Now - you are going to capture and hold all those locations - and keep the oil flowing without disruption?

And then you are going to repeat that with American personnel in all the other Middle East oil producing countries???

155

Just... ugh.

Good Friday in Rome: Muslims Illegally Pray at "Altar to the homeland"

 

156 My cousin Blaire thinks I'm funny!

157 @145, is that the same firm who handled the Taco Bell beef complaint?

Posted by: comatus at April 25, 2011 11:08 AM (W5ilH)

I don't know.

158 There is no inflation...This is another lye to hurt Presadent obama. Don't you Republa-Scrotum Heads ever give up. President Obama is going to change America to the better.

159

You guys see the light at the end of the tunnel?  I've got good news, and I've got bad news.

The good news is that's not a train.

The bad news is it's not sunlight either.  It may be related to sunlight, but its source is far closer than 93 million miles (or inches, or millimeters, though it's probably just a bit further out than 93 million microns given the heat wave didn't evaporate us).

160 This is where the end game will be.  It's only a question of how much crap we are willing to absorb before we end up doing what had to be done all along.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 25, 2011 10:45 AM (G/MYk)

As unpalatable as this may seem, it rings true.  The next 30 years is going to be a blood letting, head chopping lollapalooza.  This economic shit always ends in a WW. Our generation isn't gonna escape it, and we as a nation are ill prepared, unwilling even,  to do what is necessary to win.

161 Why do we have to take the blame for Obama?  Anybody here vote for him?  Go ahead and raise your hand...

I don't see any raised hands.  Blame the retards and waterheads who did vote for him.

162 >>Our generation isn't gonna escape it, and we as a nation are ill prepared, unwilling even, to do what is necessary to win. We were pretty ill prepared and unwilling to get involved with WWII, until we did.

163 . Our generation isn't gonna escape it, and we as a nation are ill prepared, unwilling even,  to do what is necessary to win.

Posted by: Derak

Oh bullshit.  How about not walking away from the table before the wheel has even stopped spinning?  Even a casual review of our history suggests we can move from unwillingness to fervor pretty damned quickly.

164 I do stand up!

165 The link to the story Jonah Goldberg mentions in Update #1 is rather theatrical-- it sounds like a Lifetime movie script. It would have been better to examine the man's dilemma without over-dramatizing both the town hall and his personal situation.

166 I got the fervor.

167 #166 Or we could just drill/frack our own fields and go All-in on nuclear power.

168 The Thursday morning DOOM thread should be fun.

169 We've got a shitload of coal, and even plenty of the really good stuff if we reverse Clintoon's executive order putting it off limits.

170

I love the Der Spiegel article in the sidebar.  You can FEEL the liberal gall at having to write about these "nationalist" parties that are springing up and "unexpectedly" making big gains in elections all over Europe.  I mean, this is just the teaser (emphases mine):

The success of the True Finns in last week's Finnish elections has shocked Brussels. They are just one of a number of right-wing populist parties currently flourishing in Europe. Their rise could threaten the euro bailout.

Ohhh, you mean Europeans are starting to think that maybe they don't want their hard earned money going to bailout countries like Portugal, with only a 25% high school graduation rate?  They're finally figuring out that letting some faraway bureaucrat in Belgium decide their nation's fiscal policy isn't a good idea?  And they're starting to listen to the people who have been saying this for a long time?  Gosh, what a shock.

Until now, the small country in the far northeastern corner of the continent was seen as a model member of the European Union. (MWR - That's some praise there, Der Spiegel. *gag*) It was known for its successful export-oriented companies, liberal social policies and the best-performing school students in the Western industrialized world. (MWR - That sentence reads so badly. It sounds like they've got the best students in performing schools, not the best-performing students, period.  The "school" is redundant.  But I digress.) It is ironic (MWR - Is it?) that it is here in Finland -- a part of Europe that always seemed eminently European (MWR - What?) -- that a movement is now coming to power that inveighs against immigrants and abortions (MWR - Oooh, scary!), considers Brussels to be the "heart of darkness" (MWR - Justifiably so) and rejects all financial assistance for what it calls "wasteful countries," like Greece, Ireland and Portugal (MWR - So-called because they are wasteful countries. Imagine that.) "We were too soft on Europe," says Soini, adding that Finland should not be made to "pay for the mistakes of others."

Ahhh, I love it.  I love the smell of left-wing tears in the morning.  Smells like victory!

(And also Lutefisk.  This is Scandinavia, after all)

171 169 I do stand up!

Posted by: ShyTown Gerri at April 25, 2011 11:23 AM (spbRY)

I was bummed out when she came out of the closet. I always wanted to be with a chick who would shake when I screwed her.

172 I know most food items in Oregon have gone up 30-50% in the last 6 months.

We spent the better part of an open thread last week discussing various items that have jumped in price. Some are huge.

173 #175 Things ought to be interesting at LGF if the Mad King was sufficiently distracted from photo essays of rusty nails and random pieces of wood to notice that story.

174 That Tiger Beat article on the sidebar is brilliant. The NYT reminds me of an old Vegas hotel. It's covered with glitz and glamor but inside it's dirty and old and full of losers who don't even play their games anymore with any relish. They slowly kill themselves as they go through the game mechanically.

175 Did you know I'm an expert on the Great Depression? That is, I know how to cause one.

176 Yeeah who is this we you are talking about? I didn't vote for this fuck, and I have never taken a government benefit in my life unless you count that home buyers tax credit I now I have to pay back.

177 #178 It would take a nuclear attack on the United States to get us to do something that far outside the box.  That's the only way we go caveman on the entire Middle East.

Not that I want a nuclear attack, obviously, though I could see the "silver lining of the dark cloud" utility of a failed attempt on one of our nests of libtardism to maybe wake some of those fuckers up to just what we are dealing with here.

178 #180 Atlantic City comes to mind.

179 WZ: Liberal Columnist Cynthia Tucker: High Gas Prices Are Our Fault for Opposing Obama . . . and Public Transit

180

You seem to prefer that the arab/persian/muslim world holds the tap on the lifeblood of the world and uses the money it derives from that tap in order to threaten and attack us and our interests and to destabilize the civilized world in order to make way for their primitive supremacy.  Okey doke.

Posted by: iknowtheleft
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Not at all.  But if you are really concerned about "our lifeblood", try getting some facts correct.

12% of US oil used comes from the middle east.  12%.  Most of the imports come from Mexico, Venezuela and Canada.

Rather than starting a world war and needing to defend widepsread assets for decades to come, why not simply drill more here.  12%.  Fuck 'em.  And fuck the rest of the world.  If they depend on the Middle East for oil more than we do, let them spend the money to defend and/or takeover those places.  It's not our fucking job.  Fuck England.  Fuck France, Germany and all the rest of 'em.  Let them stand up and protect their interests.  China too.  Where's China forces protecting the Middle East oil fields?  I bet they depend on that oil more than we do.

181

Hey, you know what's kind of awesome in the UK?  Even though polygamy is illegal, and bigamy alone is punishable by up to 7-years in jail, if you do happen to find yourself in a polygamous marriage (entered into in another country), you can get up to £$10,000 a year in financial assistance.

For breaking the law.

Of course, we can all guess which ethnic population is most prone to polygamy.

H/T Five Feet of Fury

182 If I just create a collapse big enough, I won't have to pay taxes ever again because of all the losses.

183 Oh yeah I almost forgot to mention Obama sucks a fucking cock.

184 173 The Thursday morning DOOM thread should be fun. Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 25, 2011 11:25 AM (x/Gxz) What's significant about Thursday?

185 To lighten up your day:

What the fuck is BO looking at and Can YOU Spot the SS?

Think there is a giant mirror on the wall?

186 Supreme Court rejects early review of Virginia healthcare challenge

187 Chi-Town Jerry, that was brilliant! I'm sick of paying for the whole world to be a bunch of lazy, ungrateful anti-American snot rags. Liberals have a problem with us giving money to Israel and Iraq. Let's show all the other countries that are our enemies or assholes who do business with our enemies the gravy train is over. Money for our allies, and everyone else can go to hell.

188 184 #180 Atlantic City comes to mind. Hey! Some of us are thinking about running for President here. Seriously. I mean it. I'm thinking.

189 12% of US oil used comes from the middle east. 12%. Most of the imports come from Mexico, Venezuela and Canada. Oil is a fungible commodity, though. We buy our oil, as does most of the world, on the generalized oil market, not from individual sellers. We don't buy "Canadian" oil or "Mexican" oil; we just buy oil.

190 "185 WZ: Liberal Columnist Cynthia Tucker: High Gas Prices Are Our Fault for Opposing Obama . . . and Public Transit" AH HAHAHAHA One need not even read the link. The libtarded opinion writes itself in one's mind. Next up: Cynthia Tucker Blames High Medical Bills On Ourselves For Opposing ObamaÂ… And His Panels Dictating Efficient Treatment No, she probably isn't going to write that. Probably.

191 Man Hijacks Plane Demands Flight to Tripoli
He's a UN employee

192 @199 Traditional Monday sock fail

193 That's the only way we go caveman on the entire Middle East. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 25, 2011 11:36 AM (oDMwn) I love W for doing that much. The present shit show would never have happened on his watch.

194

I would know nothing about that, Mr. Pink.

Now, let's take a shower.

195 >>What's significant about Thursday? Bernanke is set to give his first press conference. The first press conference by a Fed chief ever. We will get a real good idea after that pc whether or not we will have a QE3. Basically, it's a matter of which poison we are going to drink.

196 Two more DOOM! posts from JAWA:

Even More Good News: Hundreds of High Risk Terrorists Released From Gitmo...

Good News!! Hundreds of Taliban escape from southern Afghan Kandahar prison (Bonus: Email the Taliban)

197 I should clarify: we purchase our oil from sellers, of course, but since oil is fungible both buyer and seller are constrained in the transaction and thus this transaction can be said to be a market transaction. (Canada could decide to charge us a premium for their oil, for example, but since we have alternate sources, they are constrained in how much they can charge. We might pay a small premium because the oil is "sweeter" or easier to transport due to proxmity, but ultimately the prices are set by the market, not by the two principals in the transaction.)

198 "We will get a real good idea after that pc whether or not we will have a QE3. Basically, it's a matter of which poison we are going to drink." Given who is running things, probably we will manage to drink both.

199 This from Atlas Shrugged:

Detroit Transit Appeals Our Free Speech Victory Verdict on Freedom Buses
Seeks to Impose Sharia (Blasphemy) Laws on Dearborn Buses

200

Oil is a fungible commodity, though. We buy our oil, as does most of the world, on the generalized oil market, not from individual sellers. We don't buy "Canadian" oil or "Mexican" oil; we just buy oil.

Of course, if the refiner/seller of that crude pumped it from a field it owns, it wouldn't really matter how much it costs on the generalized oil market.  The problem is, the only places where that's possible are on a significant scale are the US and Canada, and we're so fucking stupid that we won't let anybody drill.

201 Can someone explain this in moron terms please?  I think I understand, but really, I'm just guessing.

We will get a real good idea after that pc whether or not we will have a QE3.

202 Bernanke is set to give his first press conference. The first press conference by a Fed chief ever. It'll be a waste of time. Fed honchos speak a weird dialect of bureaucratese that strives to sound oracular and important while at the same time committing to nothing. Fed speeches are meant to soothe investors and reassure bondholders, period. They are not meant to actually convey information. Especially when that information contains alarmingly bad news.

203 Cynthia Tucker lives in a nice single family house in what looks like a suburban neighborhood.  She can go fuck herself.

204 Good Friday in Rome: Muslims Illegally Pray at "Altar to the homeland" Assholes.

205 Ramadan in Mecca: Evangelicals Handle Snakes and Speak in Tongues.

I would pay to see that.

206 More Doom, from Jamie Wearing Fool: (read the whole thing - she has examples)

Teachers With Conviction Actually, let's call it teachers with convictions. But hey, they do it for the children or something:

More than 500 teachers convicted of crimes in the last five years -- from drunken driving to assault to manslaughter -- are still skulking around the schools because the Department of Education is hamstrung from getting rid of them.

Only those with sex-related convictions can be given the boot immediately -- but the rest of the rogues' gallery gets to continue teaching throughout the arduous process of disciplinary hearings, according to records obtained by The Post.

207 #216  There's 500 jobs Bloomberg can cut right now.  5,500 more to go.

208 In that maxed out link, we went from doomsday in 2021 to doomsday in 2017, all in the space of 1 year.  So by this time next year we will likely be at doomsday in 2014.  The debt spiral is increasing speed.  The math does not lie.  Boned.

So...Happy Easter Monday.

209 216 More Doom, from Jamie Wearing Fool: (read the whole thing - she has examples)

Teachers With Conviction Actually, let's call it teachers with convictions. But hey, they do it for the children or something:

More than 500 teachers convicted of crimes in the last five years -- from drunken driving to assault to manslaughter -- are still skulking around the schools because the Department of Education is hamstrung from getting rid of them.

Only those with sex-related convictions can be given the boot immediately -- but the rest of the rogues' gallery gets to continue teaching throughout the arduous process of disciplinary hearings, according to records obtained by The Post.

Posted by: momma at April 25, 2011 11:55 AM (penCf)

You don't understand. Unions protect the workers, the actual students - not so much. But it is "for the children"

210 Or we could just drill/frack our own fields



Nope.  The media in Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.  has declared all out war against fraking which is sad because Ohio could use the revenue.

211 "The Traveling Obama Show"

212 btw, I like "Avert your Eyes Cat"

213 Most important side Headline of the day? See Ben's post;
Rise of Right-Wing Populist Parties in Europe Could Threaten the EU

Those of us who have been saying the Euro is boned for some time saw this coming. The "Right Wing" which is in reality most often a nationalist movement holding many traditional values are on the rise, globally.

I think it is all a catastrophic push-back on liberal policies which have caused tremendous frustration to a previously silent majority, globally.

Both here and abroad, these "Right Wing" groups are the greatest threat to decades of relatively unchecked liberal policies. That is why universally the response had been to scare, cajole, obstruct, destroy and threaten any participants. It is interesting in the article they say formation of a European "Tea Party" will be the end of The EU.

But in reality, these groups have a vision of restoring traditional values and rescue us from the brink of our current liberal created malaise. That's a powerful vision that is catching on and stoking the imagination of common people everywhere. Ride the wave. Oh and John Boehner- that sound you hear is this giant tsunami. It wipes out everyone in it's path.

214 Video is about 9/11 health bill, but it is full of info I didn't even know.  First, people are bitching because to receive benefits they have to check you against terror watch list (big freaking deal).  It also says anyone is eligible for benefits, not just first responders.  How much of this $$ will end up in Dem campaign funds?

215 "The Traveling Obama Show" I saw the word "boy" at the end of every sentence.

216 Guantánamo leaks lift lid on world's most controversial prison

217 Oil is a fungible commodity, though. We buy our oil, as does most of the world, on the generalized oil market, not from individual sellers. We don't buy "Canadian" oil or "Mexican" oil; we just buy oil.
Posted by: Monty
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Price wise you are correct.  But oil is not a truly fungible economy, especially for the United States.  Much of the oil we import is geographically constrained.

The fact is, the oil we import would not be easily re-routed anywhere else.  Mexico has increased ownership interests in Texas refineries.  The US refining capacties exceed most other countries.  It would simply be impractical - and more expensive - for Mexican oil to go anywhere else.  Canadian oil doesn't even need to be shipped.  Pielines directly to the US means that oil is definitely not fungible.

So, for all practical purposes, US oil imports are mainly regional and will remain so.

Venezuelan oil comes to the US also because it is cheaper than shipping it halfway 'round the world, thus increasing profits for Venzuela.

Fungible market prices do not equal fungible supplies.

218 economy=commodity in that second sentence.

219 Did Kitteh steal $300 billion? - the NYT article has the number at 600, not 900.

220

94 What we need is a telethon to retire our debt

that's beautiful man, I'm inspired to reach back to the easter weekends of my youth with 3 channels:

"Suuuuuuu mmmmmmm where, ooooooooo vaaaaaaah the rainbow".

Bring out the gimps!

 

 

221
We will get a real good idea after that pc whether or not we will have a QE3. Basically, it's a matter of which poison we are going to drink.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 25, 2011 11:46 AM (TMB3S)

Silver has gone parabolic. Imagine what happens to precious metals if he announces another round of printing?

I woke up today scared.

222 but ultimately the prices are set by the market, not by the two principals in the transaction.)

Yes. There's this notion that the levers of control are held by the two parties engaging in said transaction, but as I've said before it all boils down to Profits and Earnings ratios.

Now, I know that this stuff gets pretty complicated for you folks so let me break it down--we need to balance the economy ... end the speculation ... make things more fair ... and that's what I intend to do.

223 76 36 Does anyone know of a pledge or something that can be signed by individuals making it known that the person signing will not be responsible for paying the federal debt?Posted by: Dr. Heinz Doofensmirtz at April 25, 2011 09:53 AM (jT08R)

Yes, I believe it is called a renunciation of citizenship. And if I'm not mistaken, you have to pay to leave....

Posted by: glowing blue meat at April 25, 2011 10:16 AM (K/USr)

$495 American and it takes 6 to 12 months to get the final certificate. And 2 interviews at the US consulate. You need to have citizenship in a second country before taking the oath. They won't let you be stateless.

And if you have many assets, expect a financial colonoscopy from the IRS on the way out as well as a final bill for all of your US assets. The IRS can be very tough if they believe you are leaving to escape taxes.

/since I knew......

 

224 Thanks for the info. Yeah, a good 12% and climbing seems about right for inflation these days.

Coupon clippin time!