August 12, 2011
— rdbrewer Found in Hot Air's headlines, Victor Davis Hanson talks about the need to go after Obama:
Obama is being blamed for not being liberal enough — after federalizing much of the health care delivery system, expanding government faster than at any time since 1933, borrowing more money in two and a half years than any president in history, absorbing companies, jawboning the wealthy, going after Boeing, reversing the order of the Chrysler creditors, adding vast new financial and environmental regulations, appointing progressives like a Van Jones or Cass Sunstein, and institutionalizing liberal protocols across the cabinet and bureaucracy, from the EPA to the Attorney General’s Office.
In other words, there is now an elite liberal effort to disentangle Obama from liberalism itself, and to suggest that his sagging polls are not a reflection of Obama’s breakneck efforts to take the country leftward — but either his inability or unwillingness to do so!
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Partly, the anger is quite savvy: if one suddenly blames Obama the man, rather than Obama the ideologue, then his unpopularity is his own, not liberalismÂ’s. There is a clever effort to raise the dichotomy of the inept Carter and the politically savvy Clinton, but in the most improbable fashion: Clinton supposedly was a success not because he was personable, sometimes compromising, and often centrist, and Carter was a failure not because he was sanctimoniously and stubbornly ideological, but just the opposite: Clinton is now reinvented as the true liberal who succeeded because of his principled leftwing politics; Carter like Obama was a bumbling compromiser and waffler.
(Emphasis added.) It can never be about the policies. It can never be the public's rejection of liberal ideas. It's always about the candidate or the packaging--i.e., the "messaging"--a communication problem. Ace has written about this several times. We saw it during the lead-up to the 2010 election and for some time thereafter. It wasn't that the public disliked or misunderstood liberalism; it was that the GOP's packaging was superior. And that if Democrats could simply package, brand, and message their ideas better, then they would be an Instant Hit with the public.
The unstated flipside of the messaging argument is that the public is simply too ignorant to get it. Unstated by some, that is. James Taranto writes about the collapse of "the Cult of Obama" and points out that some are lashing out at the American people for being unworthy of Obama. Taranto adds that there are still others who are experiencing moments of clarity. He mentions Drew Westen's op-ed in the New York Times yesterday wherein Westen acknowledged being "bewitched" and "enthralled" by the Obama candidacy. Westen didn't mention whether he thought Obama's pants were perfectly creased, though.
Dave in Texas called it a form of 
enial.
The need to round on Obama is likely to grow worse, especially if his polling doesn't improve significantly. Talk of a primary challenge will grow concurrently. But since many discount the feasibility of such a move, a serious primary challenge is unlikely. Likewise, although this liberal need to defensively attack Obama will grow, most of it will be saved for after the election--in the event of a loss.
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The plan would go like this:
1) Loudly claim that Obama is not actually liberal
2) Moderates are reassured that Obama is not actually liberal
3) Win 2012 Election so more Marxism can result.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 05:25 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Call me Ishmael at August 12, 2011 05:27 AM (hZqYp)
My Goodness, now I understand!
Epiphany!
I am not worthy of such a great leader. I am in humble awe of his magnificence, I worship at his alter, I believe fervently in his gospel and I wish only to humbly follow in admiration of his greatness.
Yet this is not enough, clearly I am not worthy, since I have not sufficiently supplicated to him and acknowleged his brilliant genius.
I will try to do better. Promise.
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 05:32 AM (wN82N)
Thanks to race-baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, plus a compliant media and far too many people who buy the whole "racist nation" meme, Obama is secure within his bubble and essentially invulnerable.
No other president -- yeah, that overworked phrase -- would have made it this far with the incompetence, law-breaking, disrespect for the Constitution and general jackassery that has characterized President Stuttering Clusterfuck's regime. Not one.
We have accepted a traitor within our midst and allow him to thrive for a single reason: affirmative action. Yes, the hard left may whine that the Chicago Jesus has not fully turned the nation into a third-world shithole yet, but when the SHTF they will be in lockstep behind him, doing his bidding and singing his praises.
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 12, 2011 05:32 AM (YjjrR)
Those of us who were bewitched by his eloquence on the campaign trail
I ask again - what eloquence? People who claim this are saying they were led astray by something which does not exist.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 05:33 AM (pdCUF)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 05:33 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 12, 2011 05:34 AM (iRlbA)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 05:36 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: dvdivx at August 12, 2011 05:37 AM (rBW4C)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 12, 2011 05:37 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: PaleRider at August 12, 2011 05:38 AM (ITaIZ)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 09:33 AM (pdCUF)
There's that blank slate again. They wanted him to be eloquent, therefore they say he is eloquent...and they all believe each other. Buncha saps.
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 05:39 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Al Gore at August 12, 2011 05:39 AM (eUj02)
True, but this also highlights the problem with the Republican party. While the Dems are relentless in their drive for unanimity in policy and public pronouncements, the Republican party is a hazy mix of seemingly competing ideologies. Cut entitlements...preserve them for our seniors...we need a strong military...the DoD is bloated....cut bureaucracy....we need another committee....and on and on. The Dems do this too, but their message is coherent, unlike the Republicans.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 05:39 AM (LH6ir)
This isn't rocket science. Leftism is a mental disorder, not a viable political ideology. If you're a grown adult and you actually believe in leftism then you're mentally ill. End of story. It's that simple.
How does it go, anyone under 30 who is a conservative has no heart and anyone over 30 who is a liberal has no brain? Luckily, being a ginger, I never had to worry about that pesky "humanity" and "soul of my own" thing.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 05:41 AM (VtjlW)
That wetness between your legs isn't arousal; it's your sphincter letting go.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 05:41 AM (LH6ir)
The genius of Obama!
What a great plan, by almost doubling the unemployment rate for all of us, and moreso for minorities, this humanitarian genius has made it possible for more and more Americans to spend quality time at home, if they still have one, with their familes and relatives and friends, to teach and guide them to follow the path of our greatest leader ever, President Barack Hussein Obama.
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 05:42 AM (wN82N)
The plan would go like this:
1) Loudly claim that Obama is not actually liberal
2) Moderates are reassured that Obama is not actually liberal
3) Win 2012 Election so more Marxism can result.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)
Doubtful. However, the result may be the same. if he gets an unserious leftist primary challenger (moonbat who scares the crap out of people and who can't get on most state ballots) then Obama gets to look like a centrist by comparison. Remember that idiots including Kristol were assuring themselves and us that he would be a centrist in November 2008. If he gets a Nader challenge like 2000, then he's done. Obama cannot afford for these people to even stay home; if he loses 1-3% to the far left challenger in states like Florida, then he'll not only lose, but be routed.
Admittadly, I'm already thinking about the general. What i said aout an unserious leftist primary challenger could help him craft a coherent centrist message going into the Dem convention. Lord knows the MFM will do their best to help. But with the economy tanking, and the Post office about to shed 120,000, Obama is likely to be the victim of events.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 05:43 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at August 12, 2011 05:43 AM (GMG6W)
- 'Liberalism' is wonderful
- Obama is not wonderful
- Therefore Obama is not 'Liberal'
The insanity is: that in the TSF, there are and have been people who meet the definition of a True Scotsman. The 'Liberalism' being advocated by our left wing however, is nothing short of crypto-socialism... and there has NEVER been a wonderful, non-bankrupt example of that in human history.
Posted by: No need to thank me- I enjoy being helpful at August 12, 2011 05:44 AM (gSR3m)
To steal from the old Disney Robinhood Cartoon (the one with the animals)
"To late to call him Barack the First, they're already calling him Barack the Worst!"
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 05:44 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 05:45 AM (ZDUD4)
Well, I admit, it would be a desperation tactic, but if nothing else is working, why not try it?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 05:46 AM (8y9MW)
Posted by: The Hare with Amber Eyes AudioBook at August 12, 2011 05:47 AM (mjfCE)
YMMV
Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist at August 12, 2011 05:48 AM (Ew27I)
I think that point of sarcasm has been made here many times at AoSHQ. VDH must be reader (of comments).
Posted by: dogfish at August 12, 2011 05:48 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: Tsar Nicholas II at August 12, 2011 09:34 AM (iRlbA)
I go back and forth between your theory, which has a huge amount of data to back it up, and my theory:
Liberals are simply too fucking stupid to understand that they are wrong.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 05:48 AM (LH6ir)
More Barack Hussein Obama Genius!
By causing inflationary price increases for food, he given us the opportunity to slim down and lose weight since many of us can no longer afford the food we wish to buy. I for one certainly thank him for this chance to lose a few pounds. My gratitude knows no bounds.
Great Job, Mr. President
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 05:50 AM (wN82N)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 12, 2011 05:50 AM (eOXTH)
Their form of leadership does nothing more than preserve benefits and, fro those, power. They don't improve anything. They don't solve anything. They hold together a selfish coalition of separate selfish interests by simply promising to keep feeding the beast. This is why and how the Democrat Party has become an intellectual and spiritual wasteland-- it's life blood is socialism, a government check, food for today. It doesn't ennoble, it doesn't enrich, save in direct redistribution. It doesn't enlighten. It plays on fear, jealousy, base avarice.
Obama is its perfect leader. He is all that to the core. The problem is that it's collapsing under its own weight now and the burden's becoming more and more on fewer and fewer and it's become too big a burden to keep carrying.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 05:51 AM (MMC8r)
Another sub-concept encompassed by collective narcissism is that of the “Charismatic Leader-Follower Relationship” theorized by PhD Jerrold Post. Post takes the view that collective narcissism is exhibited as a collection of individual narcissists, and discusses how this type of relationship emerges when a narcissistic charismatic leader, appeals to narcissistic “ideal-hungry” followers.
Posted by: gastorgrab at August 12, 2011 05:51 AM (sTBZu)
Well, I admit, it would be a desperation tactic, but if nothing else is working, why not try it?
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)
To steal from Dr Krauthammer, such a plan would credit them with far more intelligence than they've demonstrated thus far. I'd believe in a ploy to trick one of the moonbats into thinking they had a chance where none existed, but to openly convince one to go out and be the tethered goat? From what I've seen, their minds don't work that way. Look at what they did to Lieberman. The Soviets used to call it i'nsufficient enthusiasm for the revolution', punishable by forcible swimming in the Volga. What the Tea Party has done pales in comparison to the frenzied rage of the Kos kids or nutroots.
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 05:52 AM (6rX0K)
So, liberalism says to the average man, I'm going to give you a ton of free stuff if you just vote for me! No cost to you!
Well, the average American indeed likes the sound of that promise - and here is where liberals then claim their ideas are popular.
But when the liberal's free stuff agenda gets enacted, the average man notices his taxes go up, inflation goes up, and he and his friends lose their jobs.
When the costs of the "free stuff" come due, then the average man turns against liberalism, and here liberals argue the problem isn't the idea, but their advertising of it - when it fact the opposite is true.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2011 05:52 AM (7BU4a)
I don't think O will be primaried. But I'm crossing my fingers that some other leftist loon will go 3rd party on him. ALGORE seems to be nearing the brink of complete insanity, so maybe he'll take the plunge. In which case he would be my hero, if only until election day.
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 05:55 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 09:45 AM (ZDUD4)
This is a great idea and part of the Obama Genius! By causing teh prices of clothing to skyrocket due to inflationary spending, we will be less able to buy new clothes as our old ones wear out, and therefore we will wear less clothing. This plan is brilliant, as it will make the job of the TSA much easier and more effective, keeping us safe from the constant threat of terrorists. Soon airport nudity may become a reality.
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 05:55 AM (wN82N)
It's interesting that the women around here are constantly questioning President Obama's manhood and masculinity. This isn't the 1950s any more; you don't need men to take care of you! Trying to regress to an earlier time is the hallmark of an immature mind. Why don't you judge him on his merits? He is a loving husband and father; he is involved in his wife's and children's activities while still doing his job admirably well.
Typical reactionary Republican. You get all excited about Reagan sending the military to kill innocents around the world, and Bush probably made you giddy with him starting a world war against Islam.
Shame on you!
Posted by: Woodstock's pecker at August 12, 2011 05:56 AM (LH6ir)
How the hell can the spambots post multiple times already?
Posted by: Jimmuy at August 12, 2011 05:56 AM (JRjWw)
You mean when he said "Let me make this perfectly clear".......he didn't????
I thought I was the only one who didn't get it.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 05:56 AM (qwhLZ)
Liberals are simply too fucking stupid to understand that they are wrong.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 09:48 AM (LH6ir)
I'd disagree. The problem isn't that liberals can't understand the facts on the ground, the problem is they disagree with the facts.
Liberalism holds beliefs to not only be more important then reality, but able to shape and change reality.
So, when a liberal tells you Obamanomics failed because of conservative opposition, they don't really mean that the Republican minority stopped an even larger stimulus package - they mean that conservative pessimism alone has retarded the effects of Obamanomics. If we would all just think "correct thoughts" with them, the economy would currently be in good shape...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2011 05:57 AM (7BU4a)
NEW YORK (AP) -- Aligning himself with a public fed up with economic uncertainty and Washington gridlock, President Barack Obama declared Thursday: "There is nothing wrong with our country. There is something wrong with our politics."
He delivered a condensed version of that message at a fundraiser at the lower Manhattan home of movie producer Harvey Weinstein, where celebrities Gwyneth Paltrow and Jimmy Fallon, were among the approximately 50 guests who paid $35,800 each to attend.
Obama said he told his Michigan audience that it deserves better than what it's been getting from Washington.
Yep, Barry you're such an outsider. You have nothing to do with that Washington crowd. You're a regular man of the people.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 12, 2011 05:58 AM (1Jaio)
They'll plug every orifice in your body, and when you lie convulsing in the throes of death, they'll continue to violate you in unspeakable ways, much like a gang rape.
Posted by: A Typical Liberal Journalist Projecting Her Fantasies at August 12, 2011 05:58 AM (/ZZCn)
8 VDH quoting some idiot called Drew Westen:
Those of us who were bewitched by his eloquence on the campaign trail
As I recall, lefties were "fooled into supporting the Iraq war" by a president they routinely called an idiot. Now they've been "bewitched" by Obama's eloquence?
How does it help lefties when they sell themselves as such gullible saps? And if they self-identify as being so easily fooled, what does that say about their ideology?
Posted by: weew at August 12, 2011 05:59 AM (7RbIF)
Posted by: President Chet Roosevelt at August 12, 2011 05:59 AM (L9Bfu)
In all fairness to the left, we on the right do this too.
How many times have we (myself included) argued that Bush really wasn't that conservative (pointnig to NCLB, Medicare Part D, spending, etc)? Or that the GOP controlled house of the 1994 - 2006 wasn't conservative and that's why they lost? Again, plenty of arguments can be made that support that view.
But, the left can do the same thing - Obamacare didn't include the public option, Obama didn't force the end of the Bush tax cuts, Obama caved on tax cuts adn spending for the Debt Ceiling, etc.
No politician is going to be able to be perfect in the eyes of the ideologues and when a politican becomes unpopular, the ideologues will always claim it was because of their deviations from ideology, not because of the ideology.
Of course, I still believe that Bush would have fared better were he more conservative domestically and that Obama's problems stem from his liberalism.
But, let's face it, if the economy were coming back and Obama did everything he did, he'd still be fairly popular. And, if Iraq/Afghanistan gone better and more quickly, Bush would have remained pretty popular.
If ideologues learned from facts, the problems in every liberal program would cause liberals to re-think their ideas. The problems in Greece, Italy, Spain, Ireland, etc. would cause liberals to re-think their ideas.
Posted by: Monkeytoe at August 12, 2011 06:00 AM (sOx93)
Posted by: A Typical Liberal Journalist Projecting Her Fantasies at August 12, 2011 09:58 AM (/ZZCn)
Speaking of which, how'd you like a private interview with America's best loved ex-president?
Posted by: Bill Clinton at August 12, 2011 06:00 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:01 AM (ZDUD4)
Why don't the libs just blame it all on Barky's smoking? They blame everything else in the universe on smoking.
BTW, Barky isn't really a lib. He doesn't much give a shit about politics or political ideologies. All Barky is about is hating the West, looking to bring pain and destruction to us, and that is best achieved by his natural allies in the Hate America movement, which are the libs.
But Barky couldn't really give a shit who pays for whose health care, so long as the US suffers mightily in the process. Barky doesn't have the intelligence to even have much of an opinion about political systems, none of which he understands, anyway.
But, this is just like American blacks, who don't realize that Barky holds them in about the same level of contempt as he holds me - as they are Westerners, too, to Barky. Barky likes to use American blacks to achieve his goals, but other than that, he really couldn't care less about them. They are, like liberalism, merely the tools most readily available to Barky to help with his only real goal of harming America as much as possible (which he has been exceedingly successful at - as destuction doesn't take much in the way of skill or competence).
Posted by: Henry Harold Humphries, you can call me 'H' at August 12, 2011 06:02 AM (qMfi2)
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 09:51 AM (MMC8r)
True and truer of this great leader. And again this reveals the brilliance of his plans as to why he has added so many Czars to his offices. This allows him to spread the burden around, and often simply just discard it entirely! This lets him lead by example to concentrate on stimulating the economy by promoting the game of golf to the Nation in a time of need. After all, playing golf builds American Businesses and provides much needed spending on our home soi!
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 06:03 AM (wN82N)
In other words, there is now an elite liberal effort to disentangle Obama from liberalism itself, and to suggest that his sagging polls are not a reflection of Obama’s breakneck efforts to take the country leftward — but either his inability or unwillingness to do so!
And I'll tell you why this is. I don't think it's simply a matter of leftists struggling to distance their policies from Obama's sagging poll numbers. It is also due to leftists realizing that, by gum, they aren't happy. They got Obamacare. They got the repeal of DADT. They got grotesquely obese government spending. They got nonstop demonization of private industry amidst continual plaudits for unionized labor. These are all things that they've wanted - demanded - for a long time.
But... they aren't happy.
Despite having gained so much of the agenda they've worked towards for so long, the American Left feels hollow. For one thing, they've got 401(K)'s like everyone else, and they're seeing those 401(K)s sinking like a stone in clear water. They've got houses, too, and mortgages to pay. They've got children who are going to colleges at exorbitant costs and graduating with pitiful little hope of finding a job. These are all problems that should have disappeared in the course of Obama's inexorable march to the left, but instead they've gotten worse.
Of course, a conservative would say, "Hmm, something's not right. Maybe we need to go back and rethink this strategy." But not a leftist. Nope, to a leftist, the only reason they're unhappy is because things aren't far enough to the left. So despite the fact that Obama has advanced the most outrageously socialist/Marxist/Communist/other-terms-ending-in-'ist' policies this country has ever seen, he clearly hasn't gone far enough. If he had, then Susan Susquahanah and her "life partner" would be living happily together in their Manhattan apartment, summering in their little cottage on Lake George, living off Susanah's income as a Cultural Awareness consultant, and sending their son Bobbysox to the best schools in the country for free. Instead, they've had to move to a less expensive apartment in Queens; sold the cottage at Lake George for half its market value; Susanah's clients are spending money on paying the electric bill instead of cultural awareness consulting, and her "life partner's" attempts to find a job have been fruitless; and Bobbysox is going to a public school that is perenially among the "lowest achieving" schools in the nation, where he's learning all about inclusivity and social justice, but precious little about how to diagram a sentence.
But, that's not liberalism's fault. No, leftist ideology will cure all ills, once it's finally employed to the fullest extent.
This is what is known as "insanity."
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:03 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: A Typical Liberal Journalist Projecting Her Fantasies at August 12, 2011 09:58 AM (/ZZCn)
I am NOT doing that again.
Posted by: Isaac, formerly your rape for hire bartender at August 12, 2011 06:04 AM (326rv)
And you don't think that describes stunning stupidity?
Facts are facts; anyone who doesn't accept them doesn't understand the most basic rules of logic and post-enlightenment thinking.
However, in the interest of peace on earth and good will to man, I will accept the theory that liberals are both mentally ill and stunningly stupid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 06:05 AM (LH6ir)
44 99% of registered Democrats will vote for him no matter what; primary challenge or not. Unless you think there is some sort of new human out there that is willing to admit they were wrong. Because to not vote for the JEF is to admit they were wrong.
(Dons "Karnak" turbin to predict future..)
I'm thinking your not going to see 99% of democrats turn out to vote next time. In fact I'm thinking even among registered Democrats you're going to see a lot of staying at home and "what's for dinner?" come 11/2/12. I know some hardcore Democrat-for-life types that are already starting every arguement with "Admittedly Obama's been a pretty big disappointment....." The last time I heard that it had taken the MSM 8 years of pounding the Bush administration with made up scandles (Vallory Plame, The British Memo, etc...) and lots of republicans stayed home. O'blather reached that point in 24 months and is tanking among his base ever since. Watching the Uber-left distance themselves at this point almost guarantees neither Obama nor anyone else will be able to re-form the disjointed groups of the left to hold back the Conservative Tidal wave that is about to hit.
(takes turbin off)
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 06:06 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 06:08 AM (lbo6/)
Well, I certainly hope that in my last several posts I have proven I am now worthy of the brilliant genius that the strong leadership of President Barack Hussein Obama provides to us, his loyal serfs across the land of the eloquently bewitched.
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 06:09 AM (wN82N)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 10:08 AM (lbo6/)
Asthmatics can be hard to subdue sometimes.
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 06:09 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Harry at August 12, 2011 06:10 AM (bxnNg)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:10 AM (ZDUD4)
Sorry, I think I see the confusion.
I don't mean as a primary tactic. That is, I don't think there will be a primary challenge. I think (if it's what they're doing) you'll see the left get more and more shrill (who'd notice? but still) loudly demanding the President move to left. There will be more "Obama is a Centrist" articles, then, which point to the moaning and whining by the left-most contingent.
They'll keep screaming right through the convention. And then, suddenly, it'll be all "Party Unity," and "He's better than there guy," and such. This will give people like the NYT and TIME and ABC/CBS/NBC fuel to portray him as a Centrist (when he's no such thing) which would (if their tactic were successful) calm the moderates while simultaneously painting our Nominee (whoever it is) as "Extreme" (because if Obama is the Center, anything to his Right must be extreme) to try to convince the moderates to vote D, despite the fact they already know that Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.
The only thing that makes me think this even might be their possible tactic is that most liberals (even liberal "activists") are sheep. However much they claim we get our "marching orders" from Rush or Beck, or whoever, we know they're the ones who just accept whatever their party says without much (if any) skepticism. So, if Kos and Chuckles Johnson, and Marshmallow Moore, and Kobold Krugman, all go out telling their various followers and sycophants that BHO is not "left" enough- said followers and sycophants will believe it and will go out screaming that he's too Centrist (or even too Conservative) and start demanding a primary opponent. Then, when those same voices say, "okay, calm down, the election is here, and-however bad he might be- he's our guy and he's better for us than their guy," those same followers and sycophants will dutifully show up to vote.
It's a risky strategy on a number of levels- not least of which is that it might depress turnout- which is why I would think it would only be used as a desperation strategy.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 06:10 AM (8y9MW)
Facts are facts; anyone who doesn't accept them doesn't understand the most basic rules of logic and post-enlightenment thinking.
Well, that is part of the issue here. Not all post-enlightenment philosophy is grounded in the notion of objective reality, and liberals are deeply into this school of thought.
I'd indeed call it insanity, but it is the norm in thought on your average college campus these days...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2011 06:12 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 10:08 AM (lbo6/)
Asthmatics can be hard to subdue sometimes.
Posted by: Tami
Nonsense. All you have to do is fuck with their meds.
Posted by: FDA at August 12, 2011 06:12 AM (6rX0K)
So, when a liberal tells you
Obamanomics failed because of conservative opposition, they don't really
mean that the Republican minority stopped an even larger stimulus
package - they mean that conservative pessimism alone has retarded the
effects of Obamanomics. If we would all just think "correct thoughts"
with them, the economy would currently be in good shape...
Exactly. This is why they are so quick and eager to impose hate crimes, to shout down speech and to demonize anyone who dare disagree in the slightest. All, of course, in the name of tolerance, free speech and freedom.
Posted by: Jimmuy at August 12, 2011 06:13 AM (JRjWw)
Posted by: Typical Liberal w/a bag of excuses at August 12, 2011 06:14 AM (7/sDI)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 06:15 AM (lbo6/)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:15 AM (ZDUD4)
Conservatism doesn't believe in either, and is centered on protecting individuals against the excesses and abuses of others.
When you buy into the High-Speed Train to Utopia idea, it's a hard one to shake. Who wants to abandon their belief that Utopia is around the corner?
Utopianism also licenses 'the end justifies the means' and all the emanations from that penumbra. It produces gulags, killing fields, and purges, because it inevitably becomes necessary to get those in the way of Utopia out of the way.
Barry's become a liability because he's caused doubt that Utopia is achievable. He must have failed, therefore he becomes expendable because the individual is always secondary to the dream.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 06:15 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Chucky "Cheese" Johnson at August 12, 2011 06:16 AM (e8T35)
Posted by: Zombie Melanie Shouse at August 12, 2011 06:16 AM (Vwq6Q)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther)
A fair point. I still think that there's a great deal of cat herding going on. Therefore, as someone else noted, at the least, he'll suffer as some stay home or don't work or contribute. obviously I'm all for confusion and confustication to our enemies. I agree with you that their bleating, earnest or contirved, may serve Obama an opportunity to re-reinvent himself. His speech about politics proves that his pack of idiots are going to try for the outsider bit.
Posted by: FDA at August 12, 2011 06:16 AM (6rX0K)
I used the Enlightenment as a guidepost between the middle ages and the industrial revolution. But you are correct that their are schools of thought that carefully reject the scientific method, and accept the primacy of the theory. Hell, the French love doing that.
Anyone who discards facts because they do not fit the theory is stupid. They may also be mentally ill.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 06:16 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Chucky "Cheese" Johnson at August 12, 2011 06:16 AM (e8T35)
Nonsense. All you have to do is fuck with their meds.
Posted by: FDA at August 12, 2011 10:12 AM (6rX0K)
Nitrous oxide is an excellent choice. Not that I... would...
...actually I don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 12, 2011 06:17 AM (jx2j9)
I ask again - what eloquence? People who claim this are saying they were led astray by something which does not exist.
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 09:33 AM (pdCUF)
And it's not just the claims that are ridiculous; it's the breathless phrasing they use to describe Obama's "elocquence."
Weston claims he was "bewitched" and "enthralled" by Obama. Does anyone in the Real World(tm) ever use terms like that to describe their politicians? Does anyone outside of a fantasy novel or bodice ripper romance ever claim to be "bewitched" by anything? If Chris Matthews were to spew a reverential prayer from his pasty piehole about Obama's "eyes like windows to infinite wisdom, haunting in their ability to sear across the soul, breathtaking in their aspect, like twin pools of chocolate, inviting and indulgent," would it sound at all out of place, given the hyperbolic language that has surrounded Teh Won since his emergence on the national scene?
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:17 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 10:10 AM (8y9MW)
And that could be their tactic. Barry can't be liberal because the left wing is screaming that he's not liberal or radical enough and try to portray Barry as the rational man in the middle. The problem is Barry now has a record ( a poor one) to run against and he's nothing but a bigger government liberal who if he could would be another Chavez.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 12, 2011 06:17 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 10:15 AM (ZDUD4)
Hmmm....wonder how that squares with her recently joining the board of advisers of GOProud?
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 06:17 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Alex at August 12, 2011 06:18 AM (uMDy9)
Posted by: MisterMoney at August 12, 2011 09:55 AM (wN82N)
Posted by: San Fran Perv at August 12, 2011 06:18 AM (Ew27I)
Posted by: Jimmuy at August 12, 2011 10:13 AM (JRjWw)
That is one of the big "successes" of liberalism, redefining freedom. Traditionally it was not being coerced by some form of government. Now liberals define freedom as the government offering, and paying for, a small set of "good" choices.
So, being able to do what you want with your property, time, life, no longer freedom.
The government telling you that you can choose to pay for health care package A or B? Freedom.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2011 06:19 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: SurferDoc at August 12, 2011 06:19 AM (STdkO)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:19 AM (ZDUD4)
Then Rick Perry will drop out of the race and be his campaign manager! eleventy!11!!!
Posted by: Romneybot and Paulbot in unison at August 12, 2011 06:20 AM (5H6zj)
That is one of the big "successes" of liberalism, redefining freedom. Traditionally it was not being coerced by some form of government. Now liberals define freedom as the government offering, and paying for, a small set of "good" choices.
DUH! Where do you think the word freedom comes from? FREE. And we want to make everything FREE. Dumb wingnutz.
Posted by: Brilliant 52 percenter at August 12, 2011 06:20 AM (/Mla1)
Yeah, it's not the hand I'd like to play if I were in their shoes, either. But it's the hand they've been dealt, and that one gives them a chance to hope we miss a trick.
If they don't run him as the Centrist, above-the-fray, all-those-other-politicians-suck-but-not-me, candidate, what do they have? The middle (who they need more than we do, in reality, though we still need them) runs back to the Republicans as fast as they can, and their base still may not turn out.
Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 12, 2011 06:20 AM (8y9MW)
Yes, French and German philosophy have truly screwed the first world - Nietzsche, Rousseau, etc...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 12, 2011 06:20 AM (7BU4a)
Posted by: CAC at August 12, 2011 06:21 AM (JEVge)
Yeah, I don't deserve him either. I must have been one mean mofo in a prior life because this karma is a bitch.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 06:22 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 10:15 AM (ZDUD4)
Hmmm....wonder how that squares with her recently joining the board of advisers of GOProud?
Posted by: Tami
I've heard of a 69, but wow...just wow.
Posted by: moron who went there at August 12, 2011 06:23 AM (6rX0K)
Disapproval: 49%.
Oh, and that one is out of New York...
Posted by: CAC at August 12, 2011 10:21 AM (JEVge)
When you lost curious, you lost the nation.
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 06:23 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:23 AM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: CAC at August 12, 2011 06:23 AM (JEVge)
Why, 99 of the top 100 speeches in history were given by Obama. And that's just last week.
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 06:24 AM (Hx5uv)
FIFY
Average Joe, is that you?
Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist at August 12, 2011 06:24 AM (Ew27I)
93 Everyone write to algore and beg him to go third party.
Easy enough.....tell him it's time America needs a European style GREEN party.
He'll bite on that sh*t.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 06:24 AM (qwhLZ)
Posted by: England at August 12, 2011 06:27 AM (xAW84)
Posted by: Oldsailors poet at August 12, 2011 06:27 AM (ZDUD4)
93 Everyone write to algore and beg him to go third party.
Easy enough.....tell him it's time America needs a European style GREEN party.
He'll bite on that sh*t.
Posted by: MrObvious at August 12, 2011 10:24 AM (qwhLZ)
And in your closing, tell him you think AGW skeptics are "bullshit," too. He'll feel a kinship with you. With leftists and dogs, it's important to develop a bond lest they bite you.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:27 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 06:27 AM (Hx5uv)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 06:27 AM (I77az)
Easy enough.....tell him it's time America needs a European style GREEN party.
He'll bite on that sh*t.
Actually, the lefties would probably turn out for him. They're souring on Barry and might think 'he's going to lose anyway.' It might be a way to set up a third party to undermine the Left.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 06:28 AM (MMC8r)
#34 This is why, as much as I love Palin, I think Perry will be the nominee. He looks the way we want our presidents to look in the Age of Television. I know people think he is sort of squishy and that he used to be a democrat, but from all accounts he loathes Obama (a plus in my opinion) and is a hard-charging campaigner. Also, he looks good on TV. Look at Lucianne today to see what I mean.
#43 Obama's lack of masculinity is called into question because he seriously does NOT appear very manly. No, we women here don't think it's the 1950's. However, the president is charged with PROTECTING THE NATION and wimpy people like Obama end up being held in contempt by people like Putin. It is DANGEROUS to have a wimpy president.
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2011 06:29 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Miss Marple at August 12, 2011 10:29 AM (Fo83G)
This x1000
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:32 AM (4df7R)
... lower than the federal health and retirement plans.
Wow!
We were told during the ObamaCare debate that they were so efficient.
Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy at August 12, 2011 06:34 AM (e8kgV)
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:34 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Paul Krugman at August 12, 2011 06:35 AM (AnTyA)
How does it go, anyone under 30 who is a conservative has no heart and anyone over 30 who is a liberal has no brain? Luckily, being a ginger, I never had to worry about that pesky "humanity" and "soul of my own" thing.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (VtjlW)
Ginger women: Absolutely rock! My weakness, if you must know.
Ginger men: Should be hunted down and killed, just as a precaution.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 06:35 AM (Yv6gq)
Unless I missed it, I didn't see anyone mention that Barky is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
You're slipping, folks. To quote said miserable failure, you need to up your game.
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 06:37 AM (/Mla1)
Ginger men: Should be hunted down and killed, just as a precaution.
Bring me the head of Anthony Michael Hall.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 06:37 AM (MMC8r)
Ginger men: Should be hunted down and killed, just as a precaution.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 10:35 AM (Yv6gq)
Wouldn't you then, eventually, run out of ginger women?
Posted by: Tami at August 12, 2011 06:38 AM (X6akg)
Yes. Yes, you did.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 10:35 AM (VtjlW)
*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:38 AM (4df7R)
Ginger men: Should be hunted down and killed, just as a precaution.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 10:35 AM (Yv6gq)
I challenge you to try, you little bitch. If I would have been in Mad Max, the movie would have been over in 15 minutes.
Posted by: Chuck Norris at August 12, 2011 06:39 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 10:38 AM (I77az)
{{shudder}}
I saw him walking through our hotel in Vegas. That is one ugly, weird-looking dude.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 06:40 AM (UOM48)
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (VtjlW)
Full on ginger...not a daywalker?
Posted by: garrett at August 12, 2011 06:41 AM (Vwq6Q)
Ginger men: Should be hunted down and killed, just as a precaution.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 10:35 AM (Yv6gq)
I would have to request leniency for:
1) Prince Harry
2) The Weasley Twins
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:41 AM (4df7R)
He's Kathy Griffin.
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 06:41 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 06:41 AM (UOM48)
Obama's lack of masculinity is called into question because he seriously does NOT appear very manly. No, we women here don't think it's the 1950's. However, the president is charged with PROTECTING THE NATION and wimpy people like Obama end up being held in contempt by people like Putin. It is DANGEROUS to have a wimpy president.
Speaking of Putin - isn't it amazing that he went scuba diving and found those ancient greek urns - just laying there on the bottom of the ocean .... sigh.
Posted by: disenchanted commie obama voter at August 12, 2011 06:42 AM (AT52Q)
Posted by: Waterhouse at August 12, 2011 09:33 AM (pdCUF)
They wanted to hear eloquence and wisdom in a black man "who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy," as poet-laureate Joe Biden put it. Their subconscious filled in the blanks -- and there were a lot of blanks to fill in. Eloquence was one. Basic competence was another.
"Reality-based community" my ass. These people were delusional. And we're all paying for it.
Posted by: al-Cicero, Tea Party Jihadist at August 12, 2011 06:42 AM (2wKsS)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 06:42 AM (I77az)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 12, 2011 09:41 AM (LH6ir)
BOTH!
Posted by: Bawney Fwank at August 12, 2011 06:42 AM (OITDh)
Posted by: nickless at August 12, 2011 10:41 AM (MMC8r)
That's a good point, actually. Has anyone ever seen Carrot Top and Kathy Griffin in the same room together?
OH! And:
Ginger women: Absolutely rock! My weakness, if you must know.
Joy Behar is assumedly the exception that proves this rule?
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:43 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at August 12, 2011 06:43 AM (lbo6/)
Look! Just stop bashing the president! He created 150 jobs at this one plant alone!
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 12, 2011 06:44 AM (jx2j9)
The PC/Liberal/Keynesian/Progressive stuff is working out bloody well for us on the other side of the pond.
Oi! Get back to the batting tee, you! I'm goin' ta see if this Louisville Slugger I found in the mail cart gets better distance than this 2x4 with nails in!
Posted by: Chaos at August 12, 2011 06:44 AM (GBXon)
Oh the primacy of theory. Let's take my personal bete noire, deconstruction. It's a stunning, lovely, fantastic theory that is utterly, completely and totally wrong, not to mention destructive, when applied to reality. I love to steal Camille Paglia's line that the only true deconstructionists are the Marx brothers. Words do, in fact, mean things. It is impossible for humanity to function otherwise. Denying that is rejecting reality. That's all well and good in theory but reality will always, always win.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 12, 2011 06:45 AM (VtjlW)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 10:42 AM (I77az)
Yep. Don't go pulling that crap down here, either. You could get away with it in politically correct, gun-scared Atlanta, but not down here. Lots of folks carry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 06:45 AM (UOM48)
Well, if JugEars gets brutally primaried, it'll complete his journey to the Carter Side. Remember the knock-down, drag-out fighting between Swimmer Ted and Jimmah in 1980?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 12, 2011 06:47 AM (YUYZd)
O/T but funny:
The Prostate Exam: After experiencing the
discomfort and embarrassment of a prostate test by the National Health Service,
a guy decided to have this next test carried out while visiting friends in San Francisco, where the beautiful
nurses are allegedly much more gentle and accommodating. As he lay naked on his
side on the table the nurse began the examination. "Don't worry, at this stage
of the procedure it's quite normal to get an erection." said the nurse. "I
haven't got an erection," said the man. "No, but I have," replied the nurse.
Moral of This Story: Don't have this procedure done in San
Francisco!
Posted by: Velvet Ambition at August 12, 2011 06:47 AM (0OJd9)
Unless I missed it, I didn't see anyone mention that Barky is a stuttering, sibilant clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
You're slipping, folks. To quote said miserable failure, you need to up your game.
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 10:37 AM (/Mla1)
Had to put that extra descriptor in there. Carry on.
Posted by: MWR, proud Tea(rrorist) Party Hobbit at August 12, 2011 06:47 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Crying in the streets at August 12, 2011 06:48 AM (3ESDJ)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 06:48 AM (I77az)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 12, 2011 06:50 AM (jx2j9)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 10:41 AM (UOM4
Pffft. As if. Ace is resourceful. You think he can't find tools past security in case he sees some vagrants hiding out in an airport where they think they are safe?
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 06:50 AM (Yv6gq)
Posted by: yinzer at August 12, 2011 06:51 AM (/Mla1)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 10:27 AM
Sorry to say, but you're wrong, for the same reason AllenG is wrong.
You're thinking, and no part of liberalism involves such obsolete crafts as thinking, analysis or rationality.
Liberals FEEL.
And that is why, as in 2008, they play whoop-ass with us. They don't demand that the electorate make informed judgments, or strain themselves to make logical choices. All they ask is that voters look at a candidate and sense that he/she offers Hope & Change, plus of course a healthy dose of goodies from his stash.
I wish some conservative genius would figure out how to disguise the truth as feelings. It would be so much easier to defeat President Stuttering Clusterfuck if we could make the great unwashed feel that they were doing good by banishing him to to obscurity (and perhaps federal prison).
Posted by: MrScribbler at August 12, 2011 06:52 AM (YjjrR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 12, 2011 10:41 AM
Quick, everyone check the news. Need to make sure Ace isn't trying out his next Rubio line on a TSA agent.
Posted by: dogfish at August 12, 2011 06:53 AM (N2yhW)
Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at August 12, 2011 10:48 AM (I77az)
Are you on the gulf? Color me jealous. That sounds like a blast.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 06:53 AM (Yv6gq)
Shamelessly copied this quote from a poster on FreeRepublic:
What I find ironic is that they have to put in a socialist system in the first place, in order to collapse it to show how capitalism is a failure.
YouÂ’d think if these lefties had two brain cells to rub together, it would occur to them that if capitalism requires this much effort to destroy and discredit, then maybe it isnÂ’t so bad a system after all.
Of course, maybe theyÂ’re not interested in whatÂ’s the best system for everyone. Maybe theyÂ’re just interested in the system thatÂ’s most likely to result in incredible power and wealth for them and their minions at the expense of everyone else. The more I see, the more this is the only explanation that makes any sense.
4 posted on Friday, August 12, 2011 9:26:17 AM by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!) Great point. In order to show American capitalism is a failure, they have to first infect it with heavy doses of socialism.
Posted by: Lord Humungus Wasteland Teahadi at August 12, 2011 06:57 AM (Yv6gq)
Big applause for rdbrewer here. I have nothing better to add than what alla y'all's been writing in the comments.
This is perfect.
Posted by: Truman North, TPT at August 12, 2011 07:01 AM (K2wpv)
as my dear departed mom would say-
We need obama like a 3rd asshole.
Posted by: Berserker at August 12, 2011 07:02 AM (FMbng)
But, let's face it, if the economy were coming back and Obama did everything he did, he'd still be fairly popular.
This is what you'd call a dichotomy. Or a non-sequitor. Or something.
Posted by: Peppermint Patty's Leathery Pissflaps at August 12, 2011 07:04 AM (YmPwQ)
If so,
It should be a thing of beauty, with everyone running around holding their noses.
There's not enough lipstick in the Universe to hide THIS pig.
Posted by: franksalterego at August 12, 2011 07:06 AM (7/sDI)
It is certainly very creative philosophical gymnastics; attempting to separate the most prolific leader ever of their movement, from the movements ideas. But it won't work.
People see Obama as the head liberal, not just "some guy"ramming his own version of American society down people's throats. That is why last election almost every person on the ballot with a "D" next to their names was flamed.
As Obama goes, so goes the liberal brand. And it's about to become akin to the Ford Pinto.
Posted by: Marcus at August 12, 2011 07:07 AM (CHrmZ)
The only thing missing is a good ass end collision and the usual big fireball.
Posted by: Berserker at August 12, 2011 07:09 AM (FMbng)
Posted by: tsj017 at August 12, 2011 07:14 AM (4YUWF)
HEY!!@! Obama is not a foreigner!
Posted by: Typical Dem voter at August 12, 2011 07:17 AM (tqwMN)
Posted by: kansas at August 12, 2011 07:17 AM (mka2b)
Years back, while walking down a busy center city street at about 11:00 PM on a Friday, I was jumped by a group of group of 7 or 8 of what the MSM would simply describe as youths. Across the street was a major taxi stand that serviced the bar and hotel patrons so there were quite a few potential witnesses.The "youths" didn't care.
I had just walked by them then one came up and punched me in the back of the neck. Instincts kicked in and I turned around and just went at it. Everything was a blur until a point where I had one on the ground and was wailing on him and I was getting kicked and punched by the others. Then a car pulled over with two very large bad ass guys who got out and with the sides a little more evened up, the "youths" got the shit kicked out of them. A couple were knocked out cold, the rest were left dazed and staggering away.
The cabbies across the street said that they heard the cops sirens and told us just to get the hell out of there. We all probably would have been arrested.
This isn't braggadocio. The point is that these fuckers are fucking cowards and will only do this shit when they think they can get away with it. It's doubtful they'll try that again. Unfortunately the laws are moving more and more toward protecting the perpetrators making people less hesitant to protect themselves.
I know some people who say they won't fight back because any potential charges would negatively affect their lives especially their careers...or potential as job candidates.
The thing that really sucks about the whole thing is that I ended up with boxer's fractures on both hands which changed the settings of my fingers making barre chords a bitch
Posted by: beedubya at August 12, 2011 07:19 AM (AnTyA)
If you take the container for priming and drink it or throw it on the ground, Obamanomics, the pump will not work.
So instead of priming the private sector pump, Obamanomics gives the priming money away to cronies and the "needy" and the pump fails.
Much like if I had 200 to spend on advertising and instead of buying cards, or taking out a newspaper ad I took 200 dollar bills, and stepped out the front door and threw them into the air.
Posted by: kansas at August 12, 2011 07:22 AM (mka2b)
#41, Yinzer, there are rumblings that Bernie Sanders, nobody's further left than him, is saying that if he starts out with one million dollars in donations, he'll run. Didn't see him say it as to whether or not the pinkie finger came up to the edge of his mouth. Doubt he'll do it, though.
Posted by: Theresa D., your favorite TPT, and you know it! at August 12, 2011 07:23 AM (Zgfnd)
. . .Bush probably made you giddy starting a world war against Islam.
Fuck the spambots - when I can't tell the difference between a troll or a parody, it's time to drink. Gotta be 5 o'clock sunrise somewhere.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Clitoris at August 12, 2011 07:26 AM (zF6Iw)
Why does he think Texas chirren need to know the wonders of Islam?
That, the once-mandatory Gardasil vaccines for young girls for a handful of cancers that are spread by sexual transmission, the Hispandering, the Bush-like budgetary prowess (#1, 2, 3, 5), are no-go for me. He seems to support causes of rich donors (drug company that makes Gardasil, and the fabulously wealthy Aga Khan).
Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist at August 12, 2011 07:31 AM (Ew27I)
If I were to surrender myself to the raptures of joyous optimism, I would note that Obama also signals the failure of another liberal long-term tactic, the search for the candidate/politician/spokesperson who cannot be criticized. Poor Max Cleland got himself blown up in Vietnam unloading beer for a Bacchanalia when he picked up a hand grenade. That did not prevent him from being defeated for putting union interests above the national interest. Cindy Sheehan may have had about fifteen minutes of absolute moral authority because her son died in Iraq but that didn't keep her from becoming just another lunatic living in a ditch and gibbering incoherently. The Jersey girls were hoped to be immune since they had lost family in 9/11 but their left wing crap had no traction despite the best efforts of the MBM. Now they've pulled out their best card, a Halfrican Halfmerican president should be immune from criticism regardless of how irrational his policies and rationales are but, alas, no. His super powers of invulnerability are gone like Sheehan's absolute moral authority. What will the progs try next? A differently-abled transgender lesbian suffering from a mental disorder?
Posted by: WalrusRex at August 12, 2011 07:32 AM (Hx5uv)
Confidence among U.S. consumers plunged in August to the lowest level since May 1980, adding to concern that weak employment gains and volatility in the stock market will prompt households to retrench.
“The mood is very depressed,” said Chris Christopher, an economist at IHS Global Insight Inc. in Lexington, Massachusetts. “Consumers are very fatigued and very uncertain. In the short term, people are going to pull back on spending.”
All is well in Obamaland comrades, all is well
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 12, 2011 07:33 AM (1Jaio)
“The mood is very depressed,” said Chris Christopher, an economist at IHS Global Insight Inc. in Lexington, Massachusetts. “Consumers are very fatigued and very uncertain. In the short term, people are going to pull back on spending.”
The EU is slowly coming apart. Japan's debt is also likely to manifest itself and no one really knows what shape China is in. And our President is pretending that he just got to DC while both parties are trying to figure out how to extract more money to continue buying off the same coalitions and keep the sick elephant from dying on the doorstep on their watch.
And the Tea Party are regarded as being terrorists elsewhere and here regarded as being unrealistic (debt ceiling deal anyone?)
Posted by: Blue Hen at August 12, 2011 07:38 AM (326rv)
Posted by: Coincidence? I think not at August 12, 2011 07:51 AM (u+8qs)
By now, if you haven't realized that what they say to get elected and what they do once in office are two very different things, give it up.
Posted by: Time Magazine at August 12, 2011 07:54 AM (vD3Qu)
Why does he think Texas chirren need to know the wonders of Islam?
That, the once-mandatory Gardasil vaccines for young girls for a handful of cancers that are spread by sexual transmission, the Hispandering, the Bush-like budgetary prowess (#1, 2, 3, 5), are no-go for me. He seems to support causes of rich donors (drug company that makes Gardasil, and the fabulously wealthy Aga Khan).
Posted by: RushBabe, Pitchfork Wielding Teahadist
How's Obama, in your opinion?
Posted by: Coincidence? I think not at August 12, 2011 07:55 AM (u+8qs)
Posted by: The Mega Independent at August 12, 2011 07:55 AM (tUv2Y)
Janet Reno 2012 Presidential Exploratory Committee!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Twba at August 12, 2011 08:25 AM (R8SHg)
Posted by: The Bus at August 12, 2011 09:11 AM (VrNoa)
That's because if they were honest, and admitted that they DO get whatever they want, the public might suddenly ask, "Then it's your ideas that have gotten us into this mess? Let's get rid of you, then."
The Left is always angry and always complaining because they know they can push for more of their agenda that way.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 12, 2011 10:05 AM (/zYUh)
Posted by: Molon Labe at August 12, 2011 10:31 AM (g5MrG)
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Posted by: elspeth at August 12, 2011 05:25 AM (0AkWH)