1 Someone posted this article over the weekend.  The money quote(no pun intended):

We have arrived at the endgame of what was an untenable doctrine: to pay for the kind of entitlements that populations have been led to expect by their politicians, the wealth-creating sector has to be taxed to a degree that makes it almost impossible for it to create the wealth that is needed to pay for the entitlements that populations have been led to expect, etc, etc.

2 First?

3

Yeah, but what about Amy Winehouse and Kim Kardashian and, like, people with things like that?

Can't we just live and forget about stuff? Hard stuff, like math, and junk?

4 Please don't cut the kitteh!

5 I don't trust anyone in Washington currently, for the most part, to fix this.  When do we say 'we're fucked' and actually start living in fear of the future?

6 The Tea Party faction within the Republican party was demanding that, before any further steps were taken, there must be a debate about where all this was going. Chloe, there's no time! We have to pass it NOW!!!

7 What I find funny (in a sad way) is that people are now seriously talking about "tax the poor." Of course, I largely believe that no one should be totally exempt from taxes, but even a year ago you would never have heard that in any serious tone anywhere. If there is any good thing about this current situation, perhaps it is that the people (not the Politicians, but I hope they'll be replaced when the people catch on) are starting to see that a Nation has to be able to pay its bills just like any family does. And maybe, just maybe, they're starting to see that the whole thing only really works when everyone contributes, or those who don't don't benefit from the system.

8
Debate = wrangling.

S&P no like the wrangling.

9

Heh, haircuts indeed.

I'm investing in swords, axes, and high quality tempered steel for the coming surge in guillotine production.

10

Somewhat OT, but how did the word 'haircut' get the connotation it has now? 

F'ing slang, how does it work?

11 Ace,
This is, in microcosm, one of the major issues with our current society. We have delegitimized competition and disagreement to such an extent that all of our children are "winners" in the local little league playoffs, and we have discarded the idea of a valedictorian, or for that matter contests of any kind. But without the tussle and struggle and fight to succeed, we all lose.

12 Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 08, 2011 05:33 PM (s3JuV)
I have a good tumbril design if you are interested.

13
just a euphemism for 'trim' I think

14 Moscow, 1953. Stalin calls in Khrushchev.
“Niki, I’m dying. Don’t have much to leave you.
Just three envelopes. Open them, one at a time, when you get into big trouble.”
A few years later, first crisis. Khrushchev opens envelope 1: “Blame everything on me. Uncle Joe.”
A few years later, a really big crisis. Opens envelope 2: “Blame everything on me. Again. Good luck, Uncle Joe.”
Third crisis. Opens envelope 3: “Prepare three envelopes.”

15 You know what else you'd never have heard a year ago?

Talk of primarying his incompetent ass.

They won't, but it's now okay to openly suggest that Pharoah is not a god, and maybe just a shitty politician.

16 What cannot continue, won't.

17 Smell that? You smell that?

Napalm Butthurt, son. Nothing else in the world smells like that.

I love the smell of napalm butthurt in the morning. You know, one time we had a hill the Tea Party bombed, for 12 hours. When it was all over, I walked up. We didn't find one of 'em, not one stinkin' dink Rethuglican body. The smell, you know that gasoline butthurt smell, the whole hill. Smelled like...

...victory. Someday this war's gonna end...

18 This is exactly what I've been saying, we need a balanced approach in solving this crisis.

19  A debate you say? Thats easy because capitalism and socialism both have track records. Which end result would you chose?

20

Hrothgar,

I don't want to completely corner the market, gotta leave some room for other profiteers, otherwise they might come for me for my vertical monopoly...

21

As long as Toonces comes at this issue with that "fair share" bullshit, there's going to be acrimony. How he can ask for more from those who are paying virtually ALL the taxes while half pay fuck-all under the premise it's their "fair share", well, shows you how far we've sunk into this.

With a little more of that famous Obama economic good fortune, however, he may be irrelevant to the coming "wrangling". Who listens to a miserable failure?

22 /sock

23 But Susan Rosegen told me that Obama cut taxes, and that none of the stimulus, bailouts, and government spending would have any effect on me? WTF happened?

24
Krazy Kat reminds me of something I've been thinking about.

25 Yeah, somebody is going to get a haircut, but it shouldn't be us sane, responsible, hard-working, patriotic, productive types who have been doing all they can at the ballot box. No, those getting the haircut need to be welfare loafers, individual and corporate. Basically any entity that survives on the government tit, excepting the military.

26 Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 08, 2011 05:38 PM (s3JuV)
Well, I must admit, there is going to be a wide open opportunity for us entrepreneurs in this niche field.

27 Hmmm.... passing a 1/6 economy altering entitlement in the middle of the night, only to be told we need to pass it to find out what's in it ----- I suspect that make S&P real happy cookie monster. 

28 the only dysfunctional is zero, who thinks Americans are all for slavery ...

29 16: LOL, I'm nerdy enough to translate that. Its cake OR pie for dessert. No being able to have both. Or we can have SS or welfare but not both (no one is admitting that yet though)

30 You know, we could always print some cash...

31 Ace - will you run for president?

32 Universal suffrage is a bad idea.

33 Shared Sacrifice.  You sacrifice, I share.

34 At least we at this site have been having the debate for quite a while. And as I have told my apolitical friends, I *had* to get involved and so will you.
 
As some wise politico said, the secret isn't to elect the right people, but to get the wrong people to do the right thing. We've elected plenty of  'the right people' that have refused to do the right thing.
 
Of course there could be lots of wrangling over what 'the right thing' is.

35 Posted by: Dave at August 08, 2011 05:39 PM (Xm1aB) Well, there's "should" and then there's reality. I expect there will be plenty of hair shears to go around, when all is said and done.

36 Bob Beckel is a huge assbag.

37

Didn't Futurama have a robot version of the Miracle Worker where the teacher was talking to Helen Keller in binary?  And after Keller finally got the right binary sequence for water, the teacher started shouting, "01!  01!"

Ah, nerd humor.

38
What we're witnessing before our very eyes is the conflict of two very different economic schools of thought.

Trickle Down Economics vs Trickle Up Economics.

Reagan vs Obama.

Obama's Trickle Up Economics cannot work. Taking from the producers and giving it to the non-producers nets less-than-zero. Because of govt inefficiency, it results in a debt burden.

In other words, Obama is destroying wealth by fairly distribute wealth. But non-producers, by definition, can never produce wealth or jobs.

39 Sidebar posters,

While you're about to clean up Rd's double sidebar post, can you tell us what the China poster says?

40 You know, once the numbers were explained, I understood that if you took everything the rich have, it would fund the government for about an hour. And I suck at math. So when in the hell is a Republican going to get a posterboard and marker and get this fuckin message out so we can dispense with this "tax the rich" bullshit?" I mean, doesn't the RNC solicit money to get the message out? Or are they still spending it at strip clubs?

41 Debt and population growth have long permitted America to avoid making difficult, binary-type decisions about which path to choose: low-tax, dynamic capitialism or high-tax, redistributive socialism.

You're right about that, and my fear is the Democrats have managed to get enough people hooked on the government money drug that the choice will be door #2.

42 My only rebuttal is that, by no means will we have a serious debate. All this talk of "changing the debate" will be upended or ignored or demonized or merely fall on deaf ears once true cuts in entitlements appear to be the inevitable outcome. Cuts will only take place by withering away the value of services offered. No one is likely to vote away their bennies. As Monty has often implied, there is no likely political solution to this problem, only the solution imposed by outside forces. Such as the scarcity of goods and the lack of viable money.

43

You know what will be fun? When we all get to decide who's gettin' fucked in this mess.

That'll be a real party.

44
What's the return for every dollar the govt spends in stimulus? Something like 0.8?

45

You guys want cake?

Fuck that, unless you're Dutch, you'd better start drinkin!

46 Flash: Obama to sell Alaska back to Russia to solve debt problem

47 Marco Rubio is right - the real way to stimulate the economy is to get more people back to work paying taxes. Obama's endless whining for high taxes is going to kill off that plan. Obama is a dumb reckless ideologue. (Obama is, after all,  led by former John Edwards advisor David Axelrod)  America is not in the best of hands.

48 @38 AllenG No doubt they'll come at me with the pruning shears, but fuck them. I'll do whatever I can to avoid the "haircut" they have planned for me. I want people going to prison. Politicians going to prison. They are fucking my kids and grandkids and I've had about fucking enough.

49

But is it really time for debate? Is a debate possible with these people? I think not. It is time to reinforce our convictions and move forward in this fight, which is what it is. I pray the Tea Party gathers strength and numbers in the coming years.

50

Yep, we've hit the debt wall. Peak Debt. It's the same thing that happened in the first Great Depression. Hell, there total debt (public + private) to GDP hit 200% in '29. It's now at 350%. It hit 200% in 2000, and that's when the .dot com crash started. But Greenspan managed to pull out a save by blowing another credit bubble, the housing bubble, which kept the Ponzi going on until 2008. The crash then was worse than it would've been in 2000. This time, they didn't manage to blow another bubble (save govt. debt), just stave off the collapse. Now that is failing.

     After WWII, total debt to GDP hovered around 150%. That seems to be the best level. In the late 80s, it started taking off, and went parabolic with the housing bubble.

     The time for choosing is indeed upon us. The choice is either take a deflationary, debt destroying depression or take a Weimar, debt inflating to nothing depression.

51

I thought it went like this:

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

52 ace, don't worry yourself with this. Top men are working on it. Top men.

53 @54 I agree with your sentiments. The time for debate is over. We've already won. Anyone disagreeing, get the fuck out of the way. We're talking about my kids' and grandkids' futures.

54 "Speekin Troof to Powr n-Shit"

55 53 (Dave) They are fucking my kids and grandkids and I've had about fucking enough.

Me, too.
If you say that surrounded by a group of liberals (say in Boulder, Colorado) -- those liberals shut the fuck up, too.

56 Posted by: soothsayer at August 08, 2011 05:45 PM (sqkOB) Not to pick at nits, but Thomas Sowell would point out that there's no such thing as "Trickle Down" economics. He recently wrote just such an article, in fact (I could probably track it down, but don't have it off hand). In real terms, Reagan's was the "trickle up" economics- since, before a single boat or airplane can be sold, and before the owners of that business see one penny, a space has to be purchased or leased, equipment and material have to be purchased and/or leased, and workers have to be hired and paid. Only after the boat or airplane has sold, and only if it sold for more than it cost to produce, does the owner see any return on his or her investment. I'll expand on what Dr. Sowell said: When you consider your labor a product to be sold, you do not see any money until you have secured food- to keep you relatively healthy and productive, clothing, and shelter. Only after all of these things are taken care of can one find a job that pays "a living wage." Obama would have people believe that, if only those mean rich people would share, everyone else could have plenty of money. It's capitalism vs communism- nothing more or less.

57 The time for the professional talkers to honor themselves and each other is nearly at an end.

Debate on Sunday morning shows full of old people who can't change a tire is not going to fix this.

58 What's the return for every dollar the govt spends in stimulus? Something like 0.8?  Posted by: soothsayer

"The Harvard economists Robert Barro and Charles Redlick estimate that the multiplier for stimulus spending is between 0.4 and 0.7. In another study, the Stanford economists John Taylor and John Cogan concluded that the stimulus package couldn’t have had a multiplier much greater than zero. Even the multipliers used by Christina Romer, the former chairwoman of the White House Council of Economic Advisers, and Jared Bernstein, economic adviser to Vice President Joseph Biden, in their January 2009 paper “The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan,” ranged from 1.05 to 1.55 for the output effect of government purchases. More recently, the Dartmouth economists James Feyrer and Bruce Sacerdote, who supported the stimulus, acknowledged that it didn’t boost the economy nearly as much as the administration models claimed it would."

59 56 There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

It does.
Some people's grasp of binary, though, goes all the way to eleven.

60 I hate getting a financial haircut...

61 @53 As pissed as I am (and we are) the one group of liberals I can tolerate and forgive are those temporarily insulated-from-the-real-world bright-eyed college kids. Their professors and anyone over 30? Fuck them.

62 I am starting to wonder if we are the children and grandchildren who we've been warning about.

63

Some people's grasp of binary, though, goes all the way to eleven.

I'm a hexidecimal kind of guy, so crank it all the way to B!

64 @67 Guy Fawkes Ain't that the truth?

65 I'm a hexidecimal kind of guy, so crank it all the way to B!

AA+.
Or I'm walking out.

66 Funny thing is though, as old as I am, I concluded long ago not to rely on Social Security or any other government program to support me. But now, they've done fucked my retirement portfolio. It's war.

67

Who would have ever known that giving this job to a preening effete douchebag who was used to ripping people off for everything would be such a poor idea.

68 55 ...The time for choosing is indeed upon us. The choice is either take a deflationary, debt destroying depression or take a Weimar, debt inflating to nothing depression.

What's a good example of the former?

69 But are you so nerdy to publicly admit that in an array you have only nine fingers 'cause they start counting with zero? Heck, no. I have 1023 fingers, thank-you-very-much.

70 I hope our nominee understands what is at stake.

71

They want my IRA and 401(k) next.

HA!  I lost about 1/8 of those in the past 2 weeks.  So they can't get that money!

Never, ever did I think we could have a President as bad as Jimmah Carter.  I was wrong.

72 OT I apologize for my zealous use of the F-bomb today. I'm pissed, it's Monday, and the damn air conditioning is out so I've been sweating out the weekend's beer in my office all day.

73 The Five are naming Obamas Bus

- One Nation Under Debt

74
Allen:

GWB put it best and succinctly: The economy is better off when people are able to keep more of their own money. In other words, people, rather than govt, are the best economic simulators, which means: lower tax burden.

Obama wants to raise the tax burden (on the top earners) and give that money to the non-earners. The non-earners, in turn, do not produce enough wealth to match the wealth seized by Obama. So it's a net loss for our GDP.

75 Downgrade One

76 Brazil was down 8%, we were down 6.66%.  I have created or saved 1.34%.  You should be thanking me.

77 I have not expected anything from anyone, and will not be getting a financial haircut.  I believe in the Republic of the US, and have invested in such. 

The media and politicians cry crisis, when there is usual business going on. 

How much of this is political crisis mongering?  How much of it is real?

78 Posted by: Kortezzi at August 08, 2011 05:58 PM (zAZNI) In the same way that we're never more than 2 generations away from complete tyranny, we're never more than 1 generation away from a Jimmy Carter. Simply the fact that so many people now into their Forties only vaguely remember "the Carter Years" meant they were destined to return- especially since it seemed (superficially) that he had done no permanent harm.

79 Community Organizer.

Who thought this was a good idea?

80 @82 Well Dianne, let's start with I couldn't sell my house now for what I paid for it 10 years ago. How's that for a start?

81

73:

 An example of a debt destroying deflationary depression was the Great Depression, in the 30s.

   The trick is to look at total debt, not just public debt. You'll hear the Keynesian Klowns say that it was massive federal borrowing for WWII that got us out of the hole.

    But if you look at total debt, you'll see it was coming down. Federal debt to GDP was going up, but private debt to GDP was coming down, and coming down hard.

      The Depression destroyed that bad debt. The reason debt destruction is so bad is because one person's debt is another's asset. Debt destruction equals asset destruction.

     Total debt to GDP now stands at 350%. It must be destroyed. And that is gonna mean a lot of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth.

82 Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:01 PM (+tzv7) I'd say approximately 8% drop in the last two business days is pretty freaking real. Regardless of its putative cause.

83 What really pisses me off is that the downgrade and today were totally avoidable.  Assholes, the lot of them.  ~spit~

84

In Communist China, debt owns you!

85 That we should arrive at this point illustrates the failure of Democracy.  Democracy was what the founders hated more than monarchy, and over time we have slowly transitioned from a Democratic Republic into a full fledged Democracy.

Democrats are the ones who ran up this bill, mostly (but not always) with strident opposition from Republicans. Democrats should be the ones who should be forced to pay this bill. I feel no moral obligation whatsoever to pay for something which was created against my strident opposition since I was old enough to vote.

The last five words of the 24th amendment were a big mistake.

86 What's a good example of the former?

Japan?

87 83  (Posted by: Kortezzi at August 08, 2011 05:58 PM (zAZNI) )

Your post reminds me of my reaction to losing 20-odd special forces in A-Stan.

Tragic.

Squat compared to what my dad saw and went through in WWII, though.

I'm a genuine official Vietnam vet.

It's all perspective.

88 87 73: An example of a debt destroying deflationary depression was the Great Depression, in the 30s.

The trick is to look at total debt, not just public debt. You'll hear the Keynesian Klowns say that it was massive federal borrowing for WWII that got us out of the hole.

But if you look at total debt, you'll see it was coming down. Federal debt to GDP was going up, but private debt to GDP was coming down, and coming down hard.

*double facepalm* I learned that in 4th grade.

89 Posted by: Lemon Kitten at August 08, 2011 05:48 PM (0fzsA)

So who is supposed to go out and get a job? My grandmother, who has diabetes? Or maybe all of those lazy people on disability who can't walk? OH, I know! All of the people in institutions. They can work for their medication!

it seems like the cruelest people on this blog are the women. I'll bet they are all sitting around the pool, clipping their coupons and ordering drinks, while their maids take care of their children.

This can't continue. President Obama will soon have the political power to change the tax system so that all of you won't be able to leech off the working man. You will be taxed so that you pay your fair share!

90 Democrats and liberal Republicans have been lighting their cigars with our tax money for a good half century and they have the gall to label me a terrorist because I think we shouldn't spend more than we take in. Terrorist? If they keep it up, they'll really have something to be worried about.

91 Posted by: Dave at August 08, 2011 06:02 PM (Xm1aB) I can't sell mine for what I paid 5 years ago.

92 @96 Really morons, your socking skills are lacking.

93 Fuck working.  I'm at the casino.  On the taxpayer's dime!  Suck that!

94

DO NOT RESPOND TO NJ CONSERVATIVE @96

 

95 All I can say is that you were were stupid enough to fall for an over-priced house.

I lived in a neighborhood where I sold my $30,000 house (when I bought it 15 years ago) for $250,000.  Because at the time I sold it, it was the IT neighborhood to be in.

96
This can't continue. President Obama will soon have the political power to change the tax system so that all of you won't be able to leech off the working man. You will be taxed so that you pay your fair share!

Posted by: Sally's nipple pinchers at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (LH6ir)

Either satire or an idiot.

97 Either satire or an idiot.

both

98 Posted by: Grandmother with diabetes at August 08, 2011 06:10 PM (TXKVh)

Watch them free fruity drinks with the sugar.
It's how the man sneaks up on you and steals your SS check.

99

Posted by: Sally's nipple pinchers at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (LH6ir)

Just to be disturbing, next up Snoopy's Peanut Butter?

100

On a lighter note:

More misadventures with Ms. Technologically Challenged.....

101

@102

Dianne,

Well....what year did you sell it?

 

102 48: Oh no I am a fortran person. We start counting at 1 instead of 0.

103 @105

I re-cent that!!!

104 104
This can't continue. President Obama will soon have the political power to change the tax system so that all of you won't be able to leech off the working man. You will be taxed so that you pay your fair share!

Posted by: Sally's nipple pinchers at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (LH6ir)

Either satire or an idiot.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (t3mKS)

Sock.  and you're about the 87th person to bite (me included) lol

105 #56 "

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand binary, and those who don't."

You know, back in the mid-70s when I was in highschool, I went through a weird interlude in math class.  For several weeks, we did NOTHING but binary math.  There were no numbers but 1 and 0, and we had to do everything by manipulating them.  I survived, but I never really understood it, except fitfully.  Now I wonder if everyone did this, or if it was some strange, drug-fuelled experiment our teacher decided to try on us.

106 *double facepalm* I learned that in 4th grade.

RINO.

107 "Dianne's" diction reminds me of "Peggy" from those credit card ads. 

108 er....@105

109 @102 Point well taken. I'm the only moron in the country who can't sell my house now for what I paid 10 years ago. You're brilliant, I'm and idiot, and the government had nothing to do with the value of my home dropping. You're right, this is all political crisis mongering, nothing is really happening that is bad. (You have no idea how hard it was to write this without using the F-word)

110 Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (+tzv7) Five years ago, every house was overpriced. It has nothing to do with stupidity. Obviously, the house you sold was overpriced, and you couldn't have sold it unless someone "stupid" bought it.

111 We built for more than our house is currently worth.  Calling me a moron because the market was what it was makes me want to head-butt you.

112

@117

C'mon dude.......drop a couple F-Bombs! Go Anola Gay on their asses!

113 #109, I sold the house in in 2007.

114

I thought it went like this:

There are 10 kinds of people: Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

Posted by: FireHorse at August 08, 2011 05:51 PM (gTGz3)

I'd think it would be "There are 0 or 1 kinds of people. Those who understand binary, and those who don't." because two digits gives you the four options - 00, 01, 10 and 11 which doesn't make sense.

It makes me happier to think about this than everything else right now.

Oh, by the way, Britain is burning. Not that I'll care much until they fight back and show som of the survival instinct people are supposed to have....

115

Sock.  and you're about the 87th person to bite (me included) lol

Posted by: tangonine, Tea Party Terrorist at August 08, 2011 06:14 PM (x3YFz)

Socks need slapping down!

116 Posted by: Sally's nipple pinchers at August 08, 2011 06:07 PM (LH6ir)

You left out Shame on us.

117 Media Matters will have to work overtime, now adding S & P to fox news and the list of all the other enemies.

118
There is going to be acrimony, because at some point someone is going to take a haircut.





My Filipino barber Juan in Scranton does a really great job. Only $18! That's a bargain!

119

@119

It doesn't matter if plan on staying there and are happy with it.

120

To see what I mean about total debt to GDP, here's a quick graph I put together from FRED (St. Lous FED econ database).

   http://tinyurl.com/3ezm67f

  Their debt data only goes back to 1953 or so -- before that, economic data gathering and methods weren't as good as it is today, and you have to reconstruct it from other sources.

    I've got the graphs here, but I don't see how to post them here.

121 I'm a hexidecimal kind of guy, so crank it all the way to B!

So do you see DEAD people?

122 Why all the h8rz on strip clubs? What else can Mountain-deers do? Can't count, can't read, can't graduate. love them peelers!!1!!!!

123 >>I have not expected anything from anyone, and will not be getting a financial haircut. Apparently you are unaware of the affects of inflation. You're getting a haircut whether you like it or not.

124 You know, back in the mid-70s when I was in highschool, I went through a weird interlude in math class. For several weeks, we did NOTHING but binary math. There were no numbers but 1 and 0, and we had to do everything by manipulating them. I survived, but I never really understood it, except fitfully. Now I wonder if everyone did this, or if it was some strange, drug-fuelled experiment our teacher decided to try on us. What kind of drugs go with binary?

125 Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:16 PM (+tzv7)

What's your point? 

If you are insulated from the downturn in the US economy - congratulations.  You're in select company with the tribesmen of the Kalahari and George Soros. 

126 @127 That's exactly right, the home I am in is the last one I intend to purchase. But this Dianne fruit comes aboard and wonders if this is all political crisis mongering as if home values haven't REALLY plummeted across the nation. But, I forgot, she's smart, and I'm stupid.

127

@121

Dianne,

The recession didn't offically start till December 2007. The Houseing Market, Stock Market, Bond Market, Oil and Interest Rates didn't begin to respond until early summer of 2008.

Your way out of the loop, and makes your original comment....BUNK! 

128

Oh, by the way, Britain is burning. Not that I'll care much until they fight back and show som of the survival instinct people are supposed to have....

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 08, 2011 06:16 PM (GKQDR)

I feel sorry for Britain, but they did bring it on themselves. I have been gravitating towards the conclusion that merely tolerating Socialists is an offense worthy of punishment by the Invisible hand.

129 It is a nice house.  In the neighborhood it's in, it is probably worth more now..  I should have held on to it for a million.

130 114 *double facepalm* I learned that in 4th grade.

RINO.


I sometimes ask incredibly dumb questions when I'm really tired, including ones to which I already know the answer and have studied.

131

What kind of drugs go with binary?

Posted by: fluffy at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (4Kl5M)

Uppers and downers?

132 @138 Should have held onto it? So, you're stupid.

133 OT:  I love that govt Dept of Innovation logo with the total gear lock in the sidebar.

134

@138

If you held on to it, and didn't plan on staying there, you would have lost your Ass.....you were lucky to have gotten the price you did when you did, but again......that has nothing to do with the curent conversation? 

135 140

What kind of drugs go with binary?

Posted by: fluffy at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (4Kl5M)

Uppers and downers?

Thread winner.

136 Large wager on Socialism to win by knockout.  The elites all want it, and so does a large portion of the rabble.

137 But this Dianne fruit comes aboard

Gotta be a sock or a troll.

Right now we've got a lot of Progressives who are itching to start class warfare.  Lots of incentive to appear on threads and sow dissension. 

138

That's brilliant. 

I'd love to see someone show this to Barky and watch his reaction!  I'd be laughing forever.

Posted by: progressoverpeace at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (G/MYk)

Did you see the video where people went around asking passerby's if they thought Obama was a Keynesian?  They all said "No! He was born in America!" or some such drivel.

139 I knew a math genius in high school who got a full ride to MIT. He preferred Jack Daniels and qualudes, together.

140
A binary toy for all you math/computer geeks.

141 #136-Jimi, that's what I'm saying.  People, prior to the bubble, were paying WAY TOO MUCH for the real estate in my neighborhood, and I took advantage of it.

142 Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (+tzv7) See, "Dianne" what we call that is "luck." Because when you bought your house 15 years ago (really, 15 years ago, a house of decent size when for 30K?) you weren't in "the IT" neighborhood- that neighborhood kind of migrated. For the rest of us, there are a lot of things that went into purchasing our homes (I happened to know I was buying at a bad time, but didn't have a better option) and one of those things (depending on when we purchased said homes) was the fact that all the "experts" (including our Realtors and mortgage brokers) were playing up the 'investment' part of buying a home. So, you'll excuse me if I think taking a hair-cut on a home bought 10 years ago (really, before the bubble had really begun) is a sign that things really are that bad. Now, if you'd like to play the part of Mrs. Ostrich and bury your head in the sand, go ahead. There will be no room for you in the survival zones. Or, you can get a freaking clue, realize that all of the stories of Doom that Monty posts every morning are real (and often buried so they're not easily found) and start trying to convince others of the rapidly approaching debt-pocalypse and help us prevent it, or at least mitigate the worst of its effects.

143

@145

Probably right....I don't it is salvageable at this point. Just because we get a few more conservatives in power, and a RINO President doesn't mean anything is changeing direction.

Most people in this country have been brainwashed into believing they need it. It is not until you tell them you are talking about "Socialism," that they claim they don't want it.

We're Screwed!

144 @146 Y-Not Probably right. They can start what they want, but I tell you, today I am in a mood to finish it.

145 Apparently you are unaware of the affects of inflation. You're getting a haircut whether you like it or not.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (TMB3S)

If you have transferred all your financial assets in to tangible assets, you will be getting the benefit of inflation.  The only difficulty is figuring out what kind of stuff you can buy a lot of, and need during a depression. Guns and bullets are easy, but after that I recommend liquor.

146 OMG - I'm a sock or a war troll! LOL

147 I'd think it would be "There are 0 or 1 kinds of people. Those who understand binary, and those who don't." because two digits gives you the four options - 00, 01, 10 and 11 which doesn't make sense. --------------- It does. But those four options translate to (respectively) 0, 1, 2, 3.

148 sock off.

149 Posted by: Dave at August 08, 2011 06:25 PM

Hang in there, buddy.

150 @47: "You know what will be fun? When we all get to decide who's gettin' fucked in this mess.

That'll be a real party."

The pro-socialism side is well-organized.  The opponents aren't, and as a bonus, are led by folks who will sell them out at the drop of a hat.

151 @156 Na, just a bitch.

152 Five years ago, every house was overpriced. It has nothing to do with stupidity. Obviously, the house you sold was overpriced, and you couldn't have sold it unless someone "stupid" bought it.

Posted by: mrscorpio at August 08, 2011 06:15 PM (sVB51)

 

Well, there are all of those 52%ers. 

153

Checks and balances on my power are nothing more than racist attempts by white fiscal terrorists to keep an intellectual giant of a black man on the plantation. 

Corporate jets, dammit!

154 156 OMG - I'm a sock or a war troll! LOL

Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:26 PM (+tzv7)

--

Mostly, you're an uninteresting, smug asshole.  And you still haven't made a point relevant to this thread. 

155 @165 
But keep giving your man those bj's otherwise you might find yourself affected by this pretend bad economy too, sugar tits. 

156

@151,

Dianne,

This is your original comment:

"All I can say is that you were were stupid enough to fall for an over-priced house. I lived in a neighborhood where I sold my $30,000 house (when I bought it 15 years ago) for $250,000.  Because at the time I sold it, it was the IT neighborhood to be in."

People who bought a house similar to you, but liked and decided to stay...then the bubble burst...some of those people ran inot financial trouble, and realizing that their house was no longer a "valuable asset" took huge losses, and large changes in lifestyles...they weren't stupid...you were just lucky!

157 @118 I think she is a case of sheer bloody minded refusal to admit we are all boned.

158 @165 Y-not Thank you for that, it's much better than "bitch."

159 >>If you have transferred all your financial assets in to tangible assets, you will be getting the benefit of inflation. Really? I bought my refrigerator for cash. Same for my stove and my car. Yet I still need to buy gas to fill my car to go to the grocery store and buy food. Both of those are escalating and not dropping any time soon. Inflation hurts everyone even the wealthy. They are just insulated by more layers of padding.

160 It does. But those four options translate to (respectively) 0, 1, 2, 3.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at August 08, 2011 06:26 PM (KxyHe)

Thanks. Apparently, I that binary lesson I took years ago didn't take. If only I had a caring, union teacher to drill binary into me for months.

AllenG, you said above "help us prevent it" You definitely get the optimist award today. I liked DOOM when it was more theoretical.

161 Do we know if Dianne has a gun permit?  'Cause her place sounds SWEET and I bet she's got a lot of great, movable assets, IYKWIM. 

162 I will say that I put a lot f'n money into rebhabilitating that house.

163

Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:26 PM (+tzv7)

Oh my gosh, do I have to go all Nazi on her too?

164 Future generations, who will never know what it's like to have anything to lose, will look back on us in sheer wonderment.

165 @172 is a joke, btw. 

166 @173 And just who the fuck cares?

167 168 @118 I think she is a case of sheer bloody minded refusal to admit we are all boned.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 08, 2011 06:30 PM (agD4m)

and without a condom

168

@173

That's not the point! You sold it before the Bubble Burst...that has little relevance to the conversation!

169
Really? I bought my refrigerator for cash. Same for my stove and my car. Yet I still need to buy gas to fill my car to go to the grocery store and buy food. Both of those are escalating and not dropping any time soon.

Inflation hurts everyone even the wealthy. They are just insulated by more layers of padding.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2011 06:30 PM (TMB3S)

If you can go Galt, I highly recommend it. Country living has it's advantages. I'm converting my vehicles to run on Natural gas. 0.50 cents per Gallon BABY!

170

and without a condom

and without hydrocarbon-based lubrication.

/In the end, there will be only chaos.

171 I don't have a gun permit. But I'm thinking about getting one.

I am one of the least.

172 You know... I've been working since I was 11 years old - standard summer jobs, thank you detasseling!  Worked part-time jobs through high school, college, etc., until I entered the "real world".  I've been contributing to this "Trust" for a long time.  Yet, ever since I can remember, I've been told to never expect a dime from Social Security.  That, it won't be there for you.  That, its "broke".

This problem's been around for a long time, and everyone's been aware of it.  It' like some stupid, little "inside" joke.  Well, I'm not laughing about it.  And, if this means retirees get there entitlement cut in half, then so be it.  I don't give a fuck.  You may say I'm a little cold-hearted about it, but I don't care.  Simply put, I don't care.  I think its complete bullshit, and full-frontal jackassery, to continue having me contribute to a "Trust", for your benefit knowing full well I'll never see a dime of it.

173 176 @172 is a joke, btw.

You'd be surprised.  Eventually things are going to get to the point that people will be raiding their neighbors' houses and killing them for what they have.

Oddly, I don't get too worked up at that thought; I always hated the neighbors anyway.

174 Well, Ace said there would be acrimony, and he was right.

175 Supergenius Homeflipper is right.  Nothing to see here.  Move along. 

176

and without a condom

and without hydrocarbon-based lubrication.

/In the end, there will be only chaos.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 08, 2011 06:35 PM (c0A3e)

nor penicillin

177 175 Future generations, who will never know what it's like to have anything to lose, will look back on us in sheer wonderment.

Posted by The War between the Undead States at August 08, 2011 06:32 PM (/8/iw)

Do you get the feeling that you are living in a Charles Dickens Novel about two cities? 

178 @188 Bear Stearns LOL Needed that

179 Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 08, 2011 06:31 PM (GKQDR) Well, I still believe the absolute worst can, more or less, be prevented. Nothing is going to stop some kind of correction from happening- and, at this point, a huge one- but we may, yet, be able to salvage the United States. One of the lessons of history is that when a people's standard of living completely crashes is the easiest time for a tyrant to come "save" the people. One of the things that made the American Revolution so unique is the fact that the colonist's standard of living was actually getting better- and they revolted anyway. If the DOW flatlines, and the infrastructure starts failing (not an impossibility) rioting in the streets may be the least of our worries.

180 169 @165 Y-not Thank you for that, it's much better than "bitch." Posted by: Dave at August 08, 2011 06:30 PM (Xm1aB) Yeah, I mostly lurk, but fuck Dianne. The housing market crashed, and I stupidly got screwed. Now I've been out of work for 8 months, because I stupidly got hurt on the job. And now I'm stupidly trying to hold on to a house that I can't afford and that I can't sell. I sure am stupid.

181 This problem's been around for a long time, and everyone's been aware of it.  It' like some stupid, little "inside" joke.  Well, I'm not laughing about it.  And, if this means retirees get there entitlement cut in half, then so be it.  I don't give a fuck.  You may say I'm a little cold-hearted about it, but I don't care.  Simply put, I don't care.  I think its complete bullshit, and full-frontal jackassery, to continue having me contribute to a "Trust", for your benefit knowing full well I'll never see a dime of it.

WHY do you hate the M&Ms' parents and grandparents??????1?

182

If you can go Galt, I highly recommend it. Country living has it's advantages. I'm converting my vehicles to run on Natural gas. 0.50 cents per Gallon BABY!

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at August 08, 2011 06:34 PM (t3mKS)

 

I have my car connected directly to my descending colon.  My only expense is the 3cans for the price of 1 pork 'n beans at the thrift mart.

183 i really wish i could have believed in Unicorns and skittles, I would not have had to have spent the next 3 years sweating bullets, being skeered witless, i could have just gotten a little uncomfortable, about now, like liberals.

184 @193 Sucks being stupid, doesn't it? I wish we could all be as smart as Dianne. Hang in there.

185 So you all are saying that paying too much for a house can be excused because you were just going along with the culture?"

And you're mad at ME for that?

186 Does anyone remember when questioning someones patriotism was beyond the pale? Good times good times. Now calling someone a fucking terrorist is A OK.

187 @194  I don't hate them.  They should have been better prepared.  Plan B should have been something better than...  but, you can't touch my entitlement.

188 I will say that I put a lot f'n money into rebhabilitating that house. Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 06:32 PM (+tzv7) Then I'll point out you didn't sell the house you bought for 30K. You sold the house you bought for 30K and renovated for x. While I doubt X was 220,000 that's not an impossible sum either (sadly). So I'd say your (as others have pointed out) inconsequential personal success story just got a little less successful.

189 I'm a joiner.

I'd like to join the line of people saying "Fuck You, Dianne, you insensitive smug ass-gasket."

Bragging about how much money you made on your fucking house is kinda inappropriate today.

190 Dianne are you hot?

191 Social Security, medicare and medicaid have all been grouped together by Obama.  It might help to separate them.  Also to get all of the new additions to SS, like disadvantaged and mental people removed.  Remember that Big Baby and his girlfriend/babysitter?  Get peoplr like that off the dole.

192


You'd be surprised.  Eventually things are going to get to the point that people will be raiding their neighbors' houses and killing them for what they have.

Oddly, I don't get too worked up at that thought; I always hated the neighbors anyway.

Posted by:The War Between the Undead States at August 08, 2011 06:36 PM (/8/iw)

Dilbert anticipated you.



http://tinyurl.com/3t44sr6

193 Can someone explain to me why the House hasn't returned and made repealing obamacare job 1?

194

@196

Yeah....but Liberals hate themselves and they are filled with Jealousy and Envy. Sometimes your posion isn't any worse than the next guy's....it about stepping back for a second and concentrating on the good things in life!

195 I seem to remember discussions in unionized public school in the '60s and '70 where it was pushed that the discussion need not be "Guns OR butter", but "Guns AND butter".

All that butter's gonna make it hard for the libtards to hold those few guns they have...

196 Anyone know where I can buy an empty suit with nicely creased pant legs?

197

Again:  If the Tea Party are terrorists for saying there is no more money when in fact there is no more money, then the statists are pedophiles for fucking over our children in perpetuity by spending the money that has not yet been earned and taken.

 

That is all.

198

Posted by: Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 08, 2011 06:40 PM (VidfH)

Now calling someone a fucking terrorist is A OK.

 

Nononono, didn't you get the damn memo? We are a Naziblog now

199 @198 I didn't pay too much for my home at the time I purchased it, and I'm not mad at you for my home purchase decision. I'm mad at you because you're an insufferable piece of shit.

200 Eventually things are going to get to the point that people will be raiding their neighbors' houses

Everyone around me has a year's worth of food stored up. 

^{_{*rubs hands and cackles evilly*}}

201
  Being among the group who worked, saved,etc as is considered the right way, this talk of "haircuts" is really disturbing.  I'm not at all sure what the reaction from here will be, if what we have is endangered. Gut reaction is "like hell, it's mine, and I'll keep it". I have stated as much here, a few times. For those of us 70 and older, losing all or much of our retirement nest egg is a worst case scenario. Few of us can recoup even a part of those funds, which would mean a pitiful end time to look forward to. Got no desire to see our lives finish out in grinding poverty.

202 I would bet my stash of silver rounds (that I bought at 12$ oz)  that they just inflate inflate inflate.  Its like prisoner dilemma neither party is going to jump into austerity like what is needed.  Republicans arent going to take on SS and Medicare and Left aren't going to touch a dollar of entitlement/government employment. (outside of defense)

My Dad and stepmom lived in Zimbabwe for 2 years on a mission.  (helping them start small businesses)  They used to say don't exchange any more money then you need to because by the next few weeks it will be worthless. 

Hyperinflation presumed, short term, deflationary effects will be harsh since their will be so many broke people, but our currency related to international goods like metals, grain, and oil etc. will to skyrocket.  Domestic goods like labor and vacant houses will continue to crash while being bought up my overseas investors.

In 08 I would say if China invades now it would be as a repo man rather then a foreign invader... that joke is much to true now to be funny.

203 Dilbert anticipated you.
http://tinyurl.com/3t44sr6

Indeed.  Never show your hand. 

204  Speaking of debate,  looks like the Fairness Doctrine is back in play.

"Commissioner Robert McDowell tells Power Play Live that gov't may decide what content is deemed 'appropriate'."

From FoxNews.com

Ain't that just lovely?

205 Oddly, I don't get too worked up at that thought; I always hated the neighbors anyway.

Reminds me of this Dilbert cartoon.

206 Those last three paragraphs of the Daley peace sum this situation up as well as any three-volume tome.

Wealth is not something to be plundered.  It is something to be encouraged.

Until we get back to that central premise of capitalism, we will not find the way out of the looming inevitability.

207 203 Dianne are you hot?

No, but she swallows. 

208 205 Can someone explain to me why the House hasn't returned and made repealing obamacare job 1?

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 06:41 PM (k1rwm)

What fantasy world do you live in that Harry Reid let's that come up for a vote and Obama signs it?  Oh wait its you.  You exist in nothing but fantasy.

209 >>Everyone around me has a year's worth of food stored up. Everyone around me IS a year's worth of food. Go big or go home.

210 Well I guess S&P heard Obama say "Don't call my bluff"--and figured the sumbitch was both too dumb to play poker, and to  play at POTUSA.

211 Is this where all the nazis blog?

212 @222 JackStraw Crackin' me up.

213 "Commissioner Robert McDowell tells Power Play Live that gov't may decide what content is deemed 'appropriate'."

My guidebook is wrong.  I thought we were the fascists.

214 Damn, scooped again!  Well played!

215 Dianne strikes me as that insufferable bitch who can't wait to get on the phone and tell everyone how much she paid for everything she bought at the store today.

Or the one who calls you on the way home from the car lot to tell you how much she paid for her new car.

After you have repeatedly told her that you are broke.

216 I'm buying this, Michael Savage said I'm going to need it to buy a loaf of bread.

217 All that butter's gonna make it hard for the libtards to hold those few guns they have...

Posted by: Fla Chuck at August 08, 2011 06:41 PM (ub6p6)

 

All that butter has been a god-send. 

218

i just can't see them doing anything but borrowing & printing until the whole thing blows up.

 

that's what addicts do, they don't stop until they are lying face-down in the gutter.

219 Dave, Dave.... I can't help it if I see the shit storm on the horizon and no one listens to me.

220 Hi, girlfriend!

221 205 Can someone explain to me why the House hasn't returned and made repealing obamacare job 1?
Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 06:41 PM (k1rwm)

SCHVEINHUND!  YOU VILL BE SILENT!!!

222 Hey, I made everyone forget about the drop last Thursday. I am indeed magical!

223 Everyone around me has a year's worth of food stored up.

Everyone around me IS a year's worth of food.

Go big or go home.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 08, 2011 06:45 PM (TMB3S)

We had several months worth of food  etc. But being un-employed for  months took care of that.

However i do have some herbs that might make the neighbors dog taste better, think rosemary -garlic dog would be appetizing?

224 Is this where all the nazis blog?

Nein.  Zey go here: http://tinyurl.com/fx7bv

225 curious, you were right!  This place is neck-deep in nazis. 

226

We are living in the future. We are the future generation that was going to get screwed by the previous ones living beyond their means. Obama & Co. accelerated the process by years.

It's like the Three Stooges cake that wasartificially inflated with natural gas from the oven. The candles have been lit and the blinding explosion is moments away. At a bare minimum I want the cooks to get a face-full of hot icing and blown across the kitchen like the rest of us.

227 We only have three ways out of this mess:

Tax our way out of it

Print our way out of it

Tariff our way out of it

The first one cripples our economy, the second one destroys our savings and buying power, the third one?

When Hoover signed Smoot-Hawley in 1930 the United States was the world's greatest creditor nation and the world's manufacturing center.  Today China is the world's greatest creditor nation and the world's manufacturing center.

If we ever want to reverse current trends we must tariff manufactured goods from third world countries who are not close military allies.  Period.  Before it is too late.

Nobody has the guts to cut our way out of it.  Let's just admit that to ourselves.  Besides, what good does cutting do if we have no manufacturing base?  We must return jobs to the USA.  The developing world can go to hell because they would screw us over in a heartbeat if they could.  We owe them nothing.

228

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 06:47 PM (k1rwm)

Cheese louise, you don't give up, do you?

229 Nononono, didn't you get the damn memo? We are a Naziblog now Fuck. I can barely keep up.

230 It's not money that the poor need to succeed, it's a work ethic.  It's not that whitey up on the hill has all the money - it's just that the poor have done nothing to earn it yet.  That's why trickle up economics will never work.

231 However i do have some herbs that might make the neighbors dog taste better, think rosemary -garlic dog would be appetizing?

I'd go sage on game meet.

232 @198 No, scrunt.  We're saying that your smug and asinine assertion that this current crisis is all just some political kabuki play, based solely on your own, unique experience with your house, is...smug and asinine.

P.S. And I am about to buy into the market now that it is way down, and I'll be paying a really low interest rate, since I've got good credit and can get a VA loan.  It doesn't make me any smarter or better than everybody else here. 

"Me so smart, me bought low and sold high, so me better than you..."  Yeah, fuck off.

233 Cooter likes inflation.

234 Or the one who calls you on the way home from the car lot to tell you how much she paid for her new car.

With her husband's money.  Just sayin'. 

Anyone who feels financially secure right now doesn't have to work.  And the numbers she's tossing aren't big enough to suggest Soros territory (or even close to that, frankly) so odds are there's a sugar daddy or feeble parents in the equation. 

235

Cheese louise, you don't give up, do you?

Posted by: Ma Bell, TeaNazi at August 08, 2011 06:49 PM (H/MnC)

You're in big trouble.  I just texted curious what you said!

236

Jesus........Dianne,

Could you please be a little bit more clueless....

 

 

237

 

 

 

238 Circa, thank you for the tip.

239 Everyone around me IS a year's worth of food.

Only after you run out of 4 legged protein sequestration units right?

240 Don't know if I can be a tea-nazi too.
I don't think I have the room in my schedule for parades and shit.

241 Hey, curious, when we get our checks from Media Matters, want to go for a latte at Starbucks? 

242 205 Can someone explain to me why the House hasn't returned and made repealing obamacare job 1?

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 06:41 PM (k1rwm)

Tell, us, Cat-Pee: Which party controls the Senate and the the Presidency? Ask your 'friends.'

243 @232
If you are a sock, you are really unfunny. 

244 _{Anyone who feels financially secure right now doesn't have to work.  And the numbers she's tossing aren't big enough to suggest Soros territory (or even close to that, frankly) so odds are there's a sugar daddy or feeble parents in the equation.}

Or the far more likely scenario that she is a fuckin weirdo making it all up.

245 I might come off as an ass but I have to say that all these entitlements should go- no means testing, no freaking 20 year plan to get them stable- cut them off NOW! I am 40 now, been paying in to SS for 25 years and I have never been under the impression that I would see any of that money again. Pres Johnson put the SS funds into the general fund before I was born. Anyone that is currently receiving SS has had the better part of 50 years to fix the problem! I am ready to take my parents in and take care of them in their twilight years- everyone else should as well. The Dem voting blocks that get all the benefits of citizenship without the cost (welfare recipients) can get bent- you cannot squeeze blood from a turnip.

246

Tell, us, Cat-Pee: Which party controls the Senate and the the Presidency? Ask your 'friends.'

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 08, 2011 06:52 PM (w41GQ)

I've got your back, curious.  These people really are nazi douches.  G. Soros will be proud of your work here.

247 Have to admit:  I like Rand Paul.  He father is still scary, but Rand did good during the debate.

248 The Senate?  What do they have to do with repealing Obamacare?

249

if everyone here is thought of as a nazi, then aren't those that hang out with them nazi sympathizers?

?

250 Don't know if I can be a tea-nazi too.
I don't think I have the room in my schedule for parades and shit.

Go virtual.  Maybe a Youtube Nuremberg clip with an MP3 of goosestepping jackboots.  Or you can just substitute SEIU material for either.

251 MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW SIEG HEIL MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

252 Bob Beckel must have some nasty pictures of Roger Ailes.  How does a dunce like this get on TV at all, much less everyday on several shows?

253 >>Only after you run out of 4 legged protein sequestration units right? Four legs good, two legs better.

254 Bob Beckel must have some nasty pictures of Roger Ailes.  How does a dunce like this get on TV at all, much less everyday on several shows?

Incomprehensible and balanced:  I ask the same about Fred Barnes.

255 On bad news days the ankle biting weirdos seem to come out of the woodwork.

The sound of Obama stepping on his little dick must be like the Bat Signal to these retards.

256 @260

The problem is his father placed #3 in the Iowa straw poll.
I think that's a problem, anyway.

257 *frantically working on super secret comment filter....fail*

258 I sold my house several years ago because I saw it all coming,  Me so smart.

259

260 I don't understand all the military stuff.  But Savage has a whole bunch of military calling him about the deceased navy seals. 

There is a huge controversy.

261 Oh noes, it's a...

Hitler Rap.

/Don't be stupid, be a smartie.
Come and join the Nazi Party!

//sarc

262

Mr. Pink,

it is inexplicabel that the Dems thought calling half the country these type of names was a good thing. The half the country that send many of our own to fight for the freedom of All americans , and those being crushed by dictators.

honestly if they hadn't started right off the bat calling detractors racist, knuckledraggers ignorant fly over folks, I personally might not have had such anger and repulsion anytime i see them.

How could working together have ever been a thought?

How could that be a good thing for Americans? Division every step of the way.

263 Nobody has the guts to cut our way out of it.  Let's just admit that to ourselves.  Besides, what good does cutting do if we have no manufacturing base?  We must return jobs to the USA.  The developing world can go to hell because they would screw us over in a heartbeat if they could.  We owe them nothing.

Posted by: Cooter at August 08, 2011 06:49 PM (C06Qq)

 

There's a lot we could cut.  Cut the capital gains and corporate taxes.  Or, better yet, a flat tax (15-17%) for everyone (yes, I mean everyone).  Repeal Obamacare (big-ass cut).  Cut 10 -20% of government.  Cut regulation.  See.  There's a lot that could be cut to which a majority of Americans would agree.

264 <sub>I don't understand all the military stuff.  But Savage has a whole bunch of military calling him about the deceased navy seals. 

There is a huge controversy.</sub>

Ask your fucking cats about it and shut up.

265 think about it: elderly tea party lady with a flag lurching up our driveway today.  It took her forever!  Is that not the funniest shit you ever saw?  Me and my mommy just laughed and laughed and laughed.

266 274 I don't understand all the military stuff.  But Savage has a whole bunch of military calling him about the deceased navy seals. 

There is a huge controversy.

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 06:58 PM (k1rwm)

Of course you don't.  If you're going to write about the military, it's Navy SEALs.

I hope your many, many friends from NYC who told us are serving in Afghanistan are all okay.  Seriously.

267 There's a lot we could cut.  Cut the capital gains and corporate taxes.  Or, better yet, a flat tax (15-17%) for everyone (yes, I mean everyone).  Repeal Obamacare (big-ass cut).  Cut 10 -20% of government.  Cut regulation.  See.  There's a lot that could be cut to which a majority of Americans would agree.

Drill.  Drill now and exempt the earnings from taxation.  We'd be off foreign oil in about a month.

268 Ask your fucking cats about it and shut up.

Kitlers. 

269 I'm trying really hard not to beat my head on my desk. 

270 Curious working out the kinks in her filter.

271

Y-not lost her shirt in California


Pics or it didn't happen.

272 A lot of the folks on this blog bought homes this year.  Did you all buy with Cash?  Cause I notice you are bashing this dianne person.

273 I beat my head on my desk all the time.  It helps make the creepy head movies go away.

274 So,  what happens when BHO has to come back and ask for more cash in a month?

275 @222 +71 internets!

276
Anyone watch Jim Cramer tonight?

277 285 A lot of the folks on this blog bought homes this year.  Did you all buy with Cash?  Cause I notice you are bashing this dianne person.

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 07:04 PM (k1rwm)

Headline at Media Matters:

Nazi Home Ownership on Rise

278 Drill.  Drill now and exempt the earnings from taxation.  We'd be off foreign oil in about a month.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here)

Fast track nuclear plants while you're at it.  And coal.  And fracking in the mid-west.  And pipe lines.  And cut the number of government regulated blends of gas.

279 @285 Another deliberately obtuse non-sequitur.  The scrunt is being "bashed" for her smugness, not buying or selling a house.  Dunce.

280

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2011 07:02 PM (UOM4

.  That feeling is well-known.

How's your son, if you don't mind me asking? 

281

@285

Curious,

Don't beat around the bush. What is it your trying to say. All you have to do, is go back thru the comments and catch up...otherwise....what is the point of your comment?

 

282 285 A lot of the folks on this blog bought homes this year. Did you all buy with Cash? Cause I notice you are bashing this dianne person.

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 07:04 PM (k1rwm)

How would you know?  Most of the people going after Dianne are people you should have filtered.

283 There's a lot we could cut.  Cut the capital gains and corporate taxes.  Or, better yet, a flat tax (15-17%) for everyone (yes, I mean everyone).  Repeal Obamacare (big-ass cut).  Cut 10 -20% of government.  Cut regulation.  See.  There's a lot that could be cut to which a majority of Americans would agree.

Drill.  Drill now and exempt the earnings from taxation.  We'd be off foreign oil in about a month.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 08, 2011 07:02 PM (7utQ2)

 

And there's probably dozens of other things that could be done besides starting a world trade war (which would more than likely start a shooting war). 

284

@193: "Yeah, I mostly lurk, but fuck Dianne. The housing market crashed, and I stupidly got screwed. Now I've been out of work for 8 months, because I stupidly got hurt on the job. And now I'm stupidly trying to hold on to a house that I can't afford and that I can't sell. I sure am stupid."

Not to make light of your situation, but um....1) what are your feelings about Allah; and 2) can you drive a truck?

285 sigh.

286 Most of America is morally bankrupt, why shouldn't it be financially bankrupt?

287 It all depend on what the Reichstag Media tells us it is all Boooshes fault.  And the evil tea baggers of course.

288 285 A lot of the folks on this blog bought homes this year.  Did you all buy with Cash?  Cause I notice you are bashing this dianne person.

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 07:04 PM (k1rwm)

shut the fuck up

289 Kratos, I guess he's fine.  Pre-deployment training, and all that.

290 Curious working out the kinks in her filter. I think this is what she looks like.

291 Anyone watch Jim Cramer tonight?

I think I would rather let Michael Moore run over me with a Cub Cadet lawn mower.  Twice.

292 I like that the several dipshits that are curios have finally stopped pretending to be anything other than some form of troll.

293

Posted by: curious at August 08, 2011 07:04 PM (k1rwm)

Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn, geh und füttere deine Katzen und laß die Erwachsenen reden

294 So I remember "Dianne" now.  She's/it's the one who descended on the Cain mosque thread and declared beloved regular professor chemjeff to be a dumbass. 

It's consistent, anyway.  (Unlike curious.)

295 304 Curious working out the kinks in her filter.

I think this is what she looks like.


First glass of wine, spewed on keyboard.  Thanks!

296 306 I like that the several dipshits that are curios have finally stopped pretending to be anything other than some form of troll.

Posted by: sifty, Knight Teamplar and Tearrorist hobbit at August 08, 2011 07:07 PM (ECjvn)

She's demanding links to the "rumors" about the poor guy with 4 kids that is the cause of the riots in London in the previous thread.

297 Jesus Christ on a Garbage Barge, I am so glad I am leaving this shithole soon.  No more "NYC is the center of the universe" twats to deal with anymore.

298
I don't know who's worse, Cramer or the goofs who call his show and yell "booyah!"

299

"Most of America is morally bankrupt"

This is true...and we can reinforce this analysis with (3) data points:

1.) Barack Hussein Obama is CEO of America

2.) Curious

3.) Dianne  

300 I think curious is the worlds stupidest Homeland Security agent, patrolling blogs for great justice.

301 First glass of wine, spewed on keyboard. Thanks! Ich bin here to help.

302 303 Kratos, I guess he's fine.  Pre-deployment training, and all that.

*nods*.  God bless him, along with everybody else serving in the Armed Forces.  Best wishes to you as well. 

303 curious, ask your "friends" who "monitor" this blog what this means (hint:  it's in Nazi):

abschrauben

304 309 304 Curious working out the kinks in her filter.

I think this is what she looks like.


First glass of wine, spewed on keyboard.  Thanks!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2011 07:09 PM (UOM4

someone should do a subtitle video, a la Hitler's bunker, to that.

305 and come to think of it where IS the Hitler Bunker video for the downgrade???

306

Himmel, Arsch und Zwirn, geh und füttere deine Katzen und laß die Erwachsenen reden

Posted by: Ma Bell, TeaNazi at August 08, 2011 07:08 PM (H/MnC)

 

Ach du liebe zeit!  Sie spechen gutes Deutsch.  Wo is der Bahnhof?

307

"So we wonder: Does Obama actually think he needs to avoid offending the bond vigilantes? Does he think the bond markets represent America's source of risk?

If so, he really needs econ advisors."

308 311 Jesus Christ on a Garbage Barge, I am so glad I am leaving this shithole soon.  No more "NYC is the center of the universe" twats to deal with anymore..

I would like to win the lottery.  I'd by happy dying in my sleep tonight.

309 Have to run out to the store. My family stupidly ran out of milk because we couldn't see the running out of milk shit storm over the horizon. Or something.

Idiots like Dianne and curious here crack me up. Cute like a stomach pump.

310 FEGELEIN!

311

@208: "All that butter's gonna make it hard for the libtards to hold those few guns they have..."

The one with the rifle shoots!  The one without, follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots!

Worked well enough for us...

312 323 Have to run out to the store. My family stupidly ran out of milk because we couldn't see the running out of milk shit storm over the horizon. Or something.

Idiots like Dianne and curious here crack me up. Cute like a stomach pump.

Posted by: sifty, Knight Teamplar and Tearrorist hobbit at August 08, 2011 07:14 PM (ECjvn)

yeah.  cute like a perforated ulcer.

313 319 and come to think of it where IS the Hitler Bunker video for the downgrade???

As you wish:
Hitler and the S&P downgrade

314

I forget, is teh JEF a miserable clusterfuck of a stuttering failure, or a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure?

 

315 327 319 and come to think of it where IS the Hitler Bunker video for the downgrade???

As you wish:
Hitler and the S&P downgrade

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at August 08, 2011 07:15 PM (c0A3e)

you sir, are madman, a MADMAN!

316 @321 Cut.  Jib.  Newsletter.

317

However i do have some herbs that might make the neighbors dog taste better, think rosemary -garlic dog would be appetizing?

Posted by: willow at August 08, 2011 06:48 PM (h+qn

When teaching in Korea, the topic one day was dog stew. I asked the kids if anyone ever tried it and how it tasted. I'm told it's delicious.

There a house in our small town that would advertise "Muskrat meat for sale" on a cardboard sign. I'm wondering what that would taste like.

318 Look, I'm sorry if you people couldn't tell that real estate was way over priced in some areas. 

Not.My.Fault.

319 The Dems return to Mediscare:

http://tinyurl.com/3zw36k3

320 Thanks for sharing Dianne.  Really.  Why don't you and curious go have a latte together and hug?

321 OK, time for new content so Gotham Princess can have a nice dead thread on which to argue amongst themselves.

322

 

@232  Dianne

 

Yeah Dianne, home values haven't plummeted, gas prices haven't gone up, and the stock market hasn't taken a dive.

 

It's all a figment of my stupid imagination.

 

Thanks for all the enlightenment, you're a true gem.

323
The local tea party leader gal was on the radio today. She laughed at the silly accusations about the Tea Party being responsible for the downgrade.

(btw, Al Sharpton, on his stupid new show today, not only pinned the downgrade on the Tea Party, he blamed Obama's entire shitty economy on the Tea Party.)

So the local Tea Party gal countered with something that was actually plausible: the world's markets reaction today was a referendum on Geithner staying on a SecTreas.

Sounds good to me. The Republicans should run with it.

324

@332

Dianne,

Have you seen the "Crazy German Kid" video? Well.... that's what i look like when I read your comments....Please don't say anything anymore! You just are not a crediable conversation partner!

325 Posted by: Otto Von AssGas at August 08, 2011 06:11 PM (JMsOK)

Blow me. Get a sense of humor.

326 @332 'cuse us, Nostradamus.  Too bad everyone could did not also predict they were about to lose their jobs and see their other investments shit the bed concurrently.

My God, they were so stoopid.

327

Look, I'm sorry if you people couldn't tell that real estate was way over priced in some areas. 

 

Shouldn't you be blowing the pool boy?

328 tornado warning going off here....for real

329 332 Look, I'm sorry if you people couldn't tell that real estate was way over priced in some areas. 

Not.My.Fault.

Posted by: Dianne at August 08, 2011 07:17 PM (+tzv7)

you can take your sanctimonious attitude and shove it sideways up your ass.

330 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at August 08, 2011 06:16 PM (t3mKS)

And when Otto is done you can give me a rim-job.

331

Posted by: Public Service Message at August 08, 2011 07:18 PM (IhHdM)

My favorite poster is the Playboy Centerfold from November 1981...

Gene, you'd better take good care of her!

332

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2011 07:22 PM (UOM4

Stay safe.

333 Posted by: buzzion at August 08, 2011 06:13 PM (GULKT)

Snoopy is a tough one.

334 343 tornado warning going off here....for real

Stay safe.

335

@342

 

Hey, I just want my fuckin check, keep that skanky bitch away from me!

336 so is dianne the idiots nazi hunting blog monitor?

337 I wonder what would happen if people could resist the urge to feed the attention trolls. I suspect they would starve in a few days and move elsewhere. But I know many of ya'll enjoy feeding them shit sammiches and I have no sway; I'm just wondering how long it would take them to move elsewhere to search for attention if they were flat ignored by everyone.

338 I was so resistant to calling IT a troll! Like an idiot. But what other type of poster goes to dead threads and posts tons of links out? That is not normal; that is a job.

339 Get off that computer!

And then you will blow me. 

340 352. IT is not just a troll; it is spamming search algos too. IT is, you know, a paid poster or posters, whatever.

341 Whew.  Tornado siren if off.  The hell?  It's raining and a tad windy.

342

There a house in our small town that would advertise "Muskrat meat for sale" on a cardboard sign. I'm wondering what that would taste like.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at August 08, 2011 07:17 PM (GKQDR)

where's the Love

343 @352 We'd just get new ones.  And it's not like this is the Algonquin Round Table. 

344

@331: "There a house in our small town that would advertise "Muskrat meat for sale" on a cardboard sign. I'm wondering what that would taste like."

If you value your nads, you'll drop that line of thought right quick, pally.

345 351 so is dianne the idiots nazi hunting blog monitor?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 08, 2011 07:24 PM (eOXTH)

probably just another hippie.  wave some soap at her until she leaves.

346

I don't believe Dianne is a troll, just seems to have a very unpopular opinion right now.

Of course I AM always the last to know.

347

 

Here in Missouri, we've had a good rain most of the day and last night.

 

Temp is 79 right now, feels wonderful.

 

I'm enjoying the evening on my deck that I stupidly purchased.

348

@363

 

Not really the pool boy, just Dave.

349 Looking at old threads, Dianne is a moby.  Posts somewhat normally for a bit as one of "us," then gets a fight started. 

Another one to add to the sekret filter!

350
I wonder what Japan thinks of Obama constantly using their tsunami as a scapegoat for his failures?

351

NJ,

"Blow me. Get a sense of humor."

Pull my finger first!

352 356 Whew.  Tornado siren if off.  The hell?  It's raining and a tad windy.

Pop-up [cell] on radar?

353 I've started giving my friends the link to this blog.  They are hysterical at what you are saying about me.  They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts.  But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

354 These "Masters of the Universe, let's talk about my money" dunces are probably the worst.  It's like reverse class warfare.

355 361

I don't believe Dianne is a troll, just seems to have a very unpopular opinion right now.

Of course I AM always the last to know.

Posted by: willow- carpenter at August 08, 2011 07:27 PM (h+qn

The gist of it:  mizzuz Dianne is touting her financial superiority over folks that own houses that are now valued at less than what they payed for them, i.e., all of America.  As if we had a fucking say in our home values.

356 /sock off

357 Jane D'oh - I love you - I have never disagreed with anything you have said.

I am just trying to make the point that even before the shit hit the fan, it was plain to me that real estate was way over priced.  There has to be a reckoning at some point.  And we are there.

I can't be that much smarter than everyone else.  I have always considered myself to be less so.  So to hear people on this thread saying that I am otherwise, or that I think I am, is strange.

Maybe I'm smarter than I thought I was.  And if you people hate me for it, screw you.

358

@361

 

Her opinion is not problematic.

 

Her self-righteous, smug, and offensive attitude is unpopular.

 

And actually, her opinion that there is nothing wrong in the country, it's just all crisis-mongering that us stupid idiots can't recognize, is problematic on second thought.

359 Temp is 79 right now, feels wonderful.

If I'm not mistaken, that's mighty nice weather for MO in August, isn't it? 

We're hitting the low 90s this week, but we benefit from low humidity, so the temp drops 30+ degrees over night. 

360
Me: chicken
Obama: chicken fucker

361

@372

Dianne,

Obviously...you are not that bright, because you have yet to get the point of the conversation. The only person here that thinks you are bright ....is you!

I can't believe that you are still commenting...Go AWAY!

362 368 --->

363 And actually, her opinion that there is nothing wrong in the country, it's just all crisis-mongering that us stupid idiots can't recognize, is problematic on second thought

She started with "Just asking questions."  Classic moby. 

364 368 I've started giving my friends the link to this blog. They are hysterical at what you are saying about me. They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts. But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good. Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 07:29 PM (k1rwm) fuck off

365 @368 Uh-huh.  Real World.  Right. 

Hey everybody, all us folks who spent twenty-odd years deploying overseas, or running a business, or working in are chosen careers, or raising our kids have missed out on this "Real World" inhabited by cossetted urban douchebags.  If you haven't rode the N-train to go to a trendy Thai restaurant, you are just a nutty old bastard.

366

@372

 

I like smart people Dianne.

 

In fact, I have done quite well hiring people who are smarter than me.

 

What I don't like is smug bitches who think they're the smartest hump in the room and lord it over everyone else.  People like you.

 

It's not good manners.  And it's why you don't have any fucking friends.

 

Now, screw you.

367

Tangonine, Yeah i got that.

Like i said unpopular, i should have mentioned wrong.

most/many  of us didn't know things would blow up, or to what extent. some were lucky to get out while it was good. some of us are stuck with homes we are renting  out  helping to pay the mortgage and some of us have lost homes, so it is insensitive  , some have lost jobs then their homes.

but we all have opinions  even wrong ones.

368 368 I've started giving my friends the link to this blog.  They are hysterical at what you are saying about me.  They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts.  But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 07:29 PM (k1rwm)

I don't care who you are, that is some funny shit.

369 368 I've started giving my friends the link to this blog. They are hysterical at what you are saying about me. They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts. But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 07:29 PM (k1rwm)

Yeah, we enmasse went nuts.  It not like you declared New York the moral center of the universe and sole arbitators on if photos of bin laden will be released.  Called people selfish bitches for disagreeing with you.  And then quadrupling down on your idiocy by claiming only New York suffered on 9/11 and only New York remembers what happened that day.

Go fuck yourself you lying little shit.  I dare your pussy cowardly friends to comment here.

370 But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 07:29 PM (k1rwm)

I've always been nice to you but that will stop unless you make your friends stop sitting on the top of my monitor staring at me. They look like hipsters and have skinny legs.

371 Time to add a few more to the list.

"31 facts Obama fans should ponder" (ponder = to question and think about)

http://catchkevin.com/31-facts/

372

@381,

Don't believe Curious....he doesn't have any friends! Unless you consider his fake Tits to be Firends.

373 381 @368 Uh-huh.  Real World.  Right. 

Hey everybody, all us folks who spent twenty-odd years deploying overseas, or running a business, or working in are chosen careers, or raising our kids have missed out on this "Real World" inhabited by cossetted urban douchebags.  If you haven't rode the N-train to go to a trendy Thai restaurant, you are just a nutty old bastard.

Posted by: Hans Guderian at August 08, 2011 07:34 PM (agD4m)

I want to give you a big wet kiss, with tongue, but my husband wouldn't approve.

374 Dave, what did I say that made you think I thought I was smarter?

375 358: But IMO regular trolls are more fun than attention whores. Oh well I'm off to get some food and I don't really mind ya'll playing with them. I don't have a super sekrit software filter but I am pretty good at 'manually' catching the sig and skipping posts, including replies to trolls.

376 Wasn't it obvious there was a housing bubble?  I remember talk about its imminent burst for several years before it happened.

Remember the days of 'house-flipping?'

377

@375  Y-not

 

Very nice for southern Missouri during August.  We had the 7th hottest July on record, temps around 100 with high humidity, so 79 feels like sweater weather.

378

curious,  i really don't get you. so  you are angry at the commentators of this blog . so you call them nazis .,

then you invite your friends saying , "well conservative ideas are good so listen to them."

 then you laugh at your friends insulting the blog, which is what YOU did that made enemies on the said blog.

so what is the point?

379

Hey,

Let's all play nice against the backdrop of a collapsing economy.

 

380 We're getting heavy rain, that is evaporating almost as soon as it hits the ground.  I could turn our screened porch into a sauna right now.

381  If you haven't rode the N-train to go to a trendy Thai restaurant, you are just a nutty old bastard.

Posted by: Hans Guderian at August 08, 2011 07:34 PM (agD4m)

I took a rickshaw to a skeezy Thai restaurant in Bankok once.

382 Women are Smarter

383 They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts. But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

You get all that from 'Meow!' ?

Screw this shit, I'm gonna eat a MLT with the nice lean mutton.

384 368 I've started giving my friends the link to this blog.  They are hysterical at what you are saying about me.  They think you are a nutty bunch of really old people with no clue about the real world but I defended you and said you were all nice for over a year to me and then suddenly en masse went nuts.  But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good.

Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 07:29 PM (k1rwm)

No.  You should fear us.  You should lock your doors and pray we don't find you.

385 When we get a fresh batch of dumbass trolls, I guess we'll have curious to thank.

386 368 You're obviously young. You know why you're "Curious"? Because you let everyone else dictate your emotions. You have no thoughts or opinions of your own; it's all bitching about what people say here, or what your friends say, and then posing usually useless off topic comments and/or links. That's why people here hate you. If you actually read the blog, you'd see people who are strong and confident in their opinions, even when they disagree, and as such these morons run in a pretty tight circle. Get the hell off the computer, look at yourself in the mirror, and find some damn self confidence. Or just shut the hell up and keep letting people walk all over you and have a miserable life. Your choice.

387 #377 - OK - I am not that bright and don't belong here.

You are no better than someone at KOS.

Buh bye.

388 Conservatives DO realize that 'not pushing off debt to our children and grandchildren' means that YOU'RE going to have to help pay off this $14 trillion right?

389 Very nice for southern Missouri during August.

You know, with economic and political news so bad and annoying, it's nice to be able to fall back on simple things like appreciating nice weather.  I had to run some errands today and I was really enjoying the sunshine while bopping around town in my car. 

390 Question: What does anyone here think of the idea of trading a repeal of the Bush tax cuts for passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment? (the bill should be worded so that if the states don't pass the BBA, the tax cuts stay) The idea occurred to me earlier, but I'm not really keen on it. On the other hand, I'd really like to see a BBA...

391

@400

It is a real shame there was not a way to track down somebody like Curious.........or is there?

392 And curious, you haven't answered my very sincere question.  How are your NYC friends fighting in Afghanistan doing?

393 But, hey, you are providing hours of entertainment to my friends and maybe they might learn something and not fear conservatives so much so it's all good. I think one of your friends blew me for smack money at the bus station. I'm pretty sure it was one of your friends because she said she was from the West Village and only did heroin "ironically."

394 Seems the Democrats love every minority except for the Tea Party. I'd that is because they learned how to fish rather than saying "Geez, I just don't get it. Could you show me that again?" in order to get some more fish in exchange for votes and cushy and powerful gubmint jobs

395 395

Hey,

Let's all play nice against the backdrop of a collapsing economy.

 

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 07:37 PM (Fb9Q0)

ugh, good idea. I guess I'm just so frkn mad i am prone to swing at someone today.

 

maybe i  will go hit the calgon . 

396 395

Hey,

Let's all play nice against the backdrop of a collapsing economy.

 

Posted by: journolist at August 08, 2011 07:37 PM (Fb9Q0)

All weapons clean, mags checked. Gear adjusted, straps tightened.  Now, we wait.

397

"Buh bye."

See ya....don't the door hit you in the Ass on the way out!

398

"Conservatives DO realize that 'not pushing off debt to our children and grandchildren' means that YOU'RE going to have to help pay off this $14 trillion right?"

Nope never crossed our mind....Get the hell out here Moron!

399

>>..On bad news days the ankle-biting weirdos seem to come out of the woodwork.

The sound of Obama stepping on his little **** must be like the Bat Signal to these retards.

Yeah, tell me about it.

 

400 I've given the dumb c nt a lot of hell. But now I've seen her.

I feel sorry for curious. Her life must be so very, very sad.

401

Obama should just accept that his life is a complete fraud...maybe he is pondering this right now.

It is the end result of every propped up individual...propped up, in a gauzy dream-like state, not attached to reality.

It's the liberal way. Non-reality. they don't accept reality...some drive that towards good ends, like Jobs and Apple (for the most part), and become productive.

Most just sponge.

The entire university system is a make-believe world made up by adult liberals to study stuff on the dime of the taxpayer.

it's really devious when you think about it...

402 Well this is interesting. One of curious' "friends" just texted me. She says that curious is 5'1", 310 lbs, Richard Simmons-type looks, but with more bacne. And that in her group, she's known as "the pretty one."

403 JEA, we'll begin the process by cutting up the credit cards.

You leftards do realize that the gravy train is over, right?  That your side of the aisle is finished, since its business model is based on confiscating money from the private sector to line your pockets and buy your votes?

404 I have no time for curious.  One of my friends was just like Gushka, waiting and scared to death her husband was one of the dead troops.

405

@377  Otto

 

Thank you sir.

406

Willow - I'm just trying to inject humor. Don't listen to me.

It is very surreal watching a country collapse in real time.

You are an asset to this here blog so don't apologize for a thing.

This world is literally falling apart.

 

407 @418
Pix or...

408

conservatives DO realize that 'not pushing off debt to our children and grandchildren' means that YOU'RE going to have to help pay off this $14 trillion right?

 

It also means that we can stop spending right the fuck now. 

No more Free Rides.

No Aunt Zetunies.

No WIC Cards.

No NPR.

No EPA.

It's a trade we are certainly willing to make.

409 Curious.  Maybe you need to back off commenting here for awhile and then come back with a different nic.  You know, like, That Girl from NYC or Liza Minelli.

410 I've been such a fool.  I've wasted my life.

Instead of a career serving my country, marriage and children, I could have embraced the "Real World."

If only I were a Brooklyn art fag with a collection of distressed denim and knit caps.

If only I had refused to embrace bourgeois sentimentality.

If only my parents would have fronted me $500,000 for a postage-stamp sized condo slapped together by Guatemalans.

It is clear to me now.  Everything I have done, every sacrifice I have made was all for naught.

411 Pass CCB

They did.


and Ryans budget

They did.


and scream that the agencys said this was the cure.

The agencies told us there was a 50/50 chance of downgrade no matter what we did at this point.


Send it to the Senate.

They did.  The Senate tabled and filibustered the plan and the budget, respectively.  Winning elections and getting rid of the obstacles matters.

Cycle, rinse, repeat?

412 Question: What does anyone here think of the idea of trading a repeal of the Bush tax cuts for passage of a Balanced Budget Amendment? (the bill should be worded so that if the states don't pass the BBA, the tax cuts stay)

The idea occurred to me earlier, but I'm not really keen on it. On the other hand, I'd really like to see a BBA...

Posted by: Chris at August 08, 2011 07:41 PM (c3tTB)

I would but only with the BBA and government spending capped at 20%. We might like to think different but we are all going to have to pay more taxes to get rid of this debt. PS> I would only agree to it after spending was capped otherwise they will just piss it away too.

413

@405   Y-not

 

So true.

414 404 Conservatives DO realize that 'not pushing off debt to our children and grandchildren' means that YOU'RE going to have to help pay off this $14 trillion right?

Posted by: JEA at August 08, 2011 07:40 PM (J8+/z)

No, we're just not going to fund your dependent ass anymore.  Kill the NEA (both of them), cut unemployment benefits to the bone (99 weeks? are you fucking KIDDING?).  Kill Obamacare with a shovel.

Liberal, you DO realize you're going to have to get a fucking job, right?

415 425 Curious. Maybe you need to back off commenting here for awhile and then come back with a different nic. You know, like, That Girl from NYC or Liza Minelli.

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 08, 2011 07:45 PM (lAPTg)

That wouldn't work.  Constantly talking about her friends or Batchelor and we'd peg her in a second as a lying troll.

416

And for all of the military families out there, thank you for your family's service. This administration does not represent the heart of our country and you are always in our prayers.

Signed,

Teary eyed journolist

417 @404 One troll leaves, another troll enters.

418 journalist, i understand , i never thought i'd live to see this in my lifetime, I fear for everyone whatever country  they happen to live in. this is going to be a horror.

419 One phrase that I have learned not to say while Obama is POTUS - It can't get any worse than it was yesterday.

420 @ Balrog With every sentence, you sliced like a fuckin' hammer.

421 But the future is now. There's no one else to shift the losses to.

Well said.

422 I think curious burned her bridges with her post that "one of my friends who monitors the blog" crap.

Really? 

423

Rule #36

All trolls are the same person.

Surely you all have seen the movie Catfish...

424

@412: "Now, we wait."

Speak for yourself!

425 One troll leaves, another troll enters. That's not how it works.

426 Steppin' away from the computer.  Major lightning.

427 Willow,   Are you a spirtual person?    

 

428

@404

 

Hey dickwad, I'll gladly do what I can to pay it off even though I've done everything right.

 

I want my kids to live in a great America, and my grandkids too.

 

What kind of attitude it that anyway?  The same lazy-ass, mememememe attitude that's helped get us in this mess.

429

It's funny how the left see's it. They want Obama to call our bluff no realizing that would spell economic disaster, and no more government and state police force to protect them ...How foolish!

As if we would have mercy on them...Ha!

430 432 Hear hear.

I spend my time beating up on a WORTHLESS troll as, well I dunno, I suppose a form escapism. The rest of the world news is too much to take.

Someone here said it best earlier today. I feel like lowly scum when I think about my life in comparison to one of our troops. Okay so I'm paraphrasing but I think you get the gist.

Bless them all and forever keep them safe.

431 434 journalist, i understand , i never thought i'd live to see this in my lifetime, I fear for everyone whatever country  they happen to live in. this is going to be a horror.

Posted by: willow- carpenter at August 08, 2011 07:48 PM (h+qn

Fear not.  Seriously.  The US is loaded with brave men and women.  We know how to dig in, we know what we stand for.  There are more of us than you might think. 

Our communities, our small towns (yes if you live in LA or NYC yer fkd) will always get through.  Us country boys can survive, and there's a shit ton of us.

432 and state police force to protect them ...How foolish!

As if we would have mercy on them...Ha!

Posted by: Jimi at August 08, 2011 07:50 PM (JMsOK)

Uh... yeah...

433

Tangonine - awesome comment. Just awesome!

 

434 Agreed.  My prayers for our fighting men and women and their families.  God bless them all.

435

Even jugears couldn't ruin my day...I got nm copies of 'the hitchhiker's guide' on lp and an unused mfsl copy of 'waiting for columbus'

new records trumps dipshit

436 I usually don't comment much, but this morning I already woke up pissed off (any one here ever heard of "Eager Tiger"). Then this "curious"person starts spouting her useless comments and idiotic links and I just lost it. Specially after being called a Nazi

437

@418: "Well this is interesting.

One of curious' "friends" just texted me. She says that curious is 5'1", 310 lbs, Richard Simmons-type looks, but with more bacne.

And that in her group, she's known as "the pretty one.""

Well, it IS New York.  Remember, Sex and the City posited that Sarah Jessica Parker was a desirable piece of ass in NYC.

438 New thread up, but it's a sad topic. 

439 This is shaping up to be a boom time for us!

440

I would but only with the BBA and government spending capped at 20%. We might like to think different but we are all going to have to pay more taxes to get rid of this debt. PS> I would only agree to it after spending was capped otherwise they will just piss it away too.

Posted by: robtr at August 08, 2011 07:46 PM (MtwBb)

 

That is pure leftist horseshit.  Give us back a free market without confiscatory taxes, no Obamacare, and a minimum of regulation and this economy would take off like a fucking rocket.    You stealth trolls piss me off more than curious does. 

441 You have to remember:  the last 10 years of constant war has had one single positive outcome:  we now have a group of men, aged 20-30, who are warriors.  True warriors in every sense, and there's millions of them. 

Hardened in the streets of Baghdad and the hills of the Hindu Kush, there has never been so great a number of deadly dangerous patriots in the history of mankind.  Take that to bed with you.

442

journalist,

I'm at a low point in my spirituality, i have lost a lot of faith my own fault of course.

Tangonine, I believe that to be true, and i hope we hang together and give strength and meaning through the  toguh times ahead.

443

@447  Tang

 

Remember that story last year about how there were more armed men in the woods of Minnesota and Maryland during deer season than were included in our entire armed forces?  Reassuring somehow.

The parents of a fallen Seal were interviewed by Matt Lauer this morning and I caught part of the Dad's tearful comments essentially warning Obama to not politicize this tragedy.

 

I can't imagine the morale problems in the military serving under Obama.  I'm not there, but I can't help but think this is a problem.

444

@445: "As if we would have mercy on them...Ha!"

We'd have to hope they would have mercy on us.  We only exist to surrender.

445 The problem with Democrat economic policies is that eventually you run out of other people's money to buy votes with.

446 You know how you know you're an old fart?  When it's the end of a long day, you're waiting for the hubby to come home so you can make supper, and you wind up making yourself a "snack" of SOUP.  And not some sort of fun bad-for-you soup from a can, but g-damn pureed vegetable soup. 

447 and no  soldiers in this world have the integrity that ours do. Support the Troops!

448 Today at AoSHQ:

JEA, drives by to ask if conservatives realize they will be taking it up the butt, on a thread where conservatives are discussing how unfun it is to take it up the butt.  Thank you, Captain Obvious.

Diane, mobys through, claiming that we all should have seen it coming because she sold her house and this whole thing is just some political side show and, did she mention she sold a house before the bubble popped?

The Cat Lady and her Thousand Friends Who All Sponge off Mumsy and Daddums While They Work off Six-Figure School Loans has weighed us, tested us, and found us wanting.  Poor us. 

449 460

@447  Tang

 

Remember that story last year about how there were more armed men in the woods of Minnesota and Maryland during deer season than were included in our entire armed forces?  Reassuring somehow.

The parents of a fallen Seal were interviewed by Matt Lauer this morning and I caught part of the Dad's tearful comments essentially warning Obama to not politicize this tragedy.

 

I can't imagine the morale problems in the military serving under Obama.  I'm not there, but I can't help but think this is a problem.

Posted by: Dave at August 08, 2011 07:57 PM (HPcQF)

My wife threw her commission in the garbage because it was signed by Bill Clinton.  I can only imagine what she'd done if it'd been signed by obama... human sacrifice is not off the table.

450

That is pure leftist horseshit.  Give us back a free market without confiscatory taxes, no Obamacare, and a minimum of regulation and this economy would take off like a fucking rocket.    You stealth trolls piss me off more than curious does. 

Posted by: Soona - Tearorrist at August 08, 2011 07:55 PM (lAPTg)

Let me say it to you politely you freeloading fuckwad.

When the fuck has this country ever taken in enough in taxes to pay off $16 Trillion? It hasn't. Now go back to your regularly scheduled program of the leaving it for someone else to pay for.

What a fucking freeloader.

451 ok i'm off to that calgon dip.

452 Have a nice bath, willow!


Oh, and I bet the morons would appreciate some pix.

453

Willow - I understand.

454

the morons would appreciate some pix.

Now is a good time to recalibrate those light meters!

455 438>> I think curious burned her bridges with her post that "one of my friends who monitors the blog" crap.
Really? 
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2011 07:49 PM (UOM4

Especially after threatening to turn us into the FBI for not playing nice.

Cuz as a regular here she knows we just can't get enough government intervention to keep us all happy. It's an AoS core principle, don't ya know.

456 Speaking of pix, I haven't seen Twice Blessed Mom post since "the picture."  I guess she's too busy jet setting on those modeling gigs to bother with us! 

457 you guys are all extra grouchy today, I'm guessing you didn't make money in the market?

458 416

Reminded me of Jesse in Breaking Bad last night - "Smoke it up, bitches"

459 @475 I'm still up from where I was when it started its latest slide, and not everybody here plays the market.

Maybe most of the posters are upset over things beside their immediate short term finances.  I realize that is probably way outside your "Real World."

460
If you are insulated from the downturn in the US economy - congratulations.  You're in select company with the tribesmen of the Kalahari and George Soros. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 08, 2011 06:19 PM (5H6zj)

click muhliah tao wataah click  

translation: "I wonder if it is too late to learn how to sponge dive and live in a sleepy village on the Mediterranean?"

461 Not to make light of your situation, but um....1) what are your feelings about Allah; and 2) can you drive a truck? Posted by: Hassan bin Detonated at August 08, 2011 07:06 PM (xy9wk) That depends...do I get my 72 virgins? I won't do it for a virgin less than 72.

462 Had to go out to make a 2 p.m. appointment, and caught maybe the back third or fourth of fuckwit's address today, you know, the one where one reporter was yelling "downgrade" something as a question when the 'prompter went blank.

Was it just me, or did the world's greatest orator sound really really flat and totally un-inspirational?

As far as debate goes, I think we're in for a really long period of what we just witnessed in the last week or so, with the parties at polar opposites.  I've no hope that entitlement reforms of the type needed will even get discussed, much less made.

463 Posted by: The Long-Term Japanese Investor Weekly

You need a snappier title. Maybe "Boned".

464 I'm guessing you didn't make money in the market?

Did your "monitor" "friend" ever get around to supplying a definition of "Nazi", you clueless fuck?

465 <<<475 you guys are all extra grouchy today, I'm guessing you didn't make money in the market? Posted by: curious, your favorite poster and you know it.... at August 08, 2011 08:15 PM (k1rwm) Because you called us nazis and everyone here is sick of your bullshit you stupid little troll

466

What a refreshing change in tone and focus.  Concise, well thought out and using examples to demonstrate the author's points. 

 

Janet did an outstanding job in demonstrating how Americans have systematically used borrowing to cheat future hgenerations and have been doing this for the past seventy years.  It was also a good idea to contrast socialist policies in Europe with American financial policies to demonstrate what is now obvious to the casual observer.

 

First rate.  Hope we see more analysis like this.

467 > 7 Now, finally, we are having to choose. Heh, if you say so. My prediction is that they just inflate it all away (the option that requires precisely no action beyond printing money), ... Posted by: Percy Flage Inflation is one of the choices. The general public is now aware enough and riled up so that inflation won't be implemented without it being an intentional choice. (that is, voting Dems back into office)

468 ROM 8:28

My car is worth less than I paid for it. Was the moment I drove it off the lot, especially with the interest I had to cough up. I know my house is worth less too. But, it doesn't hurt so bad when I realize that I knew I was paying more than it was worth (over time) cus for the 150ish value I agreed to, I was paying 300ish, and that was at like 6 % over 30 years (great rates). Plan to stay a while. Dad and FIL lived adult lives in the nice niche wherein the "your fifth house is free" adage was still working, basically. I bought in a scary time too, prices gave me sticker shock, and it sucks financially, but I am hoping to give people a bit of decent feeling about this shit by saying it is a roof/tangible asset and place to fuck, drink, sleep, shower & eat. Would be nice to do that "Hey, your fifth one is free!", but, seeing that that probably ain't gonna happen, having a place to fuck, drink, sleep, shower & eat ain't bad. Hope those of you struggling to make mortgage can figure it out and stay put. I figure, if shit hits the fan and we have to go back to renting or move to a trailer park, i'll find some way to sunny-side it. First off, the payments will be less and I won't have to fix the fucking plumbing anymore, right?

And this debt ceiling credit rating fiasco just might take the national debate and mindset of normal people toward what is the purpose of our Federal Government? Democrats seem to think that the President is the CEO of the American economy and vote that way. Kinda mind boggling that Barakalypse Obamageddon was their best choice, isn't it? Seems Republicans think the President is the Commander in Chief and that he should keep the fuck out of the way of our economy. Protect our economy and let it Promote the the General Welfare. That might have fit McCain pretty well. But he is a modern GOP that falls into Providing General Welfare. The era of "compassionate conservatism" is gone. I thought it made sense, and could sway independents and some blue dog dem types to the GOP, but it it simply impossible. Give a millimeter and those progressive fuckers want a thousand miles. I was wrong about that and learned my lesson. It is 100% fiscal conservatism or death by a thousand slices. We need a solid conservative candidate more than ever. A RINO will only delay the inevitable.

Scary shit. But, read Romans 8:28 and try to have faith. Oh, one more thing that helps me.. Jack Kinsella's essay on maintaining faith while fearing the end times is good. At omegaletter somewhere. Linky thing might work.

469 Just when you thought things could not POSSIBLY get any worse: http://tinyurl.com/3hk26cp

470 491 Just when you thought things could not POSSIBLY get any worse:

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I'm gonna look at this, but it better not be Helen Thomas!!

471 Ouch!  Well at least it wasn't HT...

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473 85  Dave   Well Dianne, let's start with I couldn't sell my house now for what I paid for it 10 years ago.

How's that for a start?

Dave, Dave, Dave.  What makes you think you can sell the house.  The banks and lenders are foreclosing on them all the time, and they can't give them away now!

474 Dianne   Are you really this stoopid?  I was a loan officer at a bank for years.  Both mortgages and loans (credit cards, car loans, personal loans, etc).  I knew it was coming when the started the dumbass loans pushed by the gubmint for people who could not afford them.  They can't pay there maxed out credit cards, their delinquent personal loans and credit cards.  Then they apply for a car loan for a new Caddy Escalade and get turned down by us.  But a home loan?  Sure!  Better to get the "poor"out of the apartments and into houses to make them more "responsible" Americans.   Yet you blame people who are REAL responsible adults.

475 .