1 So do we get the Orgasmatron or is that what a Fleshlight is for?

2 So this site is just going to pretend that Rick Perry's "oops" moment didn't happen?

3 Thailand is bad for you but lord it's fun!!!

4 Fun fact about Newt,

A witch (that looked like Pelosi)  once turned him into a newt, "he got better" but the name stuck.

5 How did you post this in the future?
Posted by: rdbrewer at 11:40 AM

6 I don't at all buy the one about diet soda. Definitely a situation where a correlation is confused with causation.

7 The "scientists" can bugger off.  Diet soda is one of nature's greatest gifts to mankind. 

8 I don't care about this food stuff. Just know this: global warming is here to stay and those who don't get with the program will have to pay the consequences. In blood if need be.

9 My favorite in link.


The evidence that dietary fat correlates with heart disease “does not stand up to critical examination,” the American Heart Association concluded in 1957. But three years later the association changed position — not because of new data, Mr. Taubes writes, but because Dr. Keys and an ally were on the committee issuing the new report. It asserted that “the best scientific evidence of the time” warranted a lower-fat diet for people at high risk of heart disease.

The association’s report was big news and put Dr. Keys, who died in 2004, on the cover of Time magazine. The magazine devoted four pages to the topic — and just one paragraph noting that Dr. Keys’s diet advice was “still questioned by some researchers.” That set the tone for decades of news media coverage. Journalists and their audiences were looking for clear guidance, not scientific ambiguity.
...
But when the theories were tested in clinical trials, the evidence kept turning up negative. As Mr. Taubes notes, the most rigorous meta-analysis of the clinical trials of low-fat diets, published in 2001 by the Cochrane Collaboration, concluded that they had no significant effect on mortality.

Mr. Taubes argues that the low-fat recommendations, besides being unjustified, may well have harmed Americans by encouraging them to switch to carbohydrates, which he believes cause obesity and disease. He acknowledges that that hypothesis is unproved, and that the low-carb diet fad could turn out to be another mistaken cascade. The problem, he says, is that the low-carb hypothesis hasnÂ’t been seriously studied because it couldnÂ’t be reconciled with the low-fat dogma.

10 I mentioned the findings on salt to my nutritionist and she hit me with some shit about salt being corrosive to arteries and veins, or something to that effect.  You call them on one fact and they just change the story.

11

Okay, it's totally awesome that a post referencing Sleeper is apparently posted from the future.

I have this wacky theory that the human body is complicated and that what works for one person may not work for another.  Just tossing that out there.  Insty has this on-going snark about how if a private health care provider gave patients the information that the gov't. gives and that leads to all the bad stuff that it does, that entity would be sued into oblivion.

You know what the best nutritional advice is?  You can eat anything you want.  You just can't eat all of it.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go shove my face into a bowl of cheetos. 

 

12 I'm waiting for the report that says the high cholesterol stuff is all baloney.  I was right about coffee and eggs.

13
And if we don't stop global warming now...

Floods AND droughts!

14 I would add salt to a saltlick.

15 Diet soda sucks...it's infused with the rat poison Aspartame...give me good old fashioned high fructose corn syrup any day.

16 I like Newt for the same reason Lincoln liked Grant

“I like him; he fights”

17 Global warming ??
Pay in blood ?
OK , I'm your huckleberry .

18 Here is what I know. Life causes death. Anything taken to an extreme will be bad for you. Most everything in moderation is not necessarily bad for you. We all end up Tango Uniform in the end.

19 I don't at all buy the one about diet soda. Definitely a situation where a correlation is confused with causation.

Artificial sweeteners raise insulin in some people, not all.

20 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

21 2 So this site is just going to pretend that Rick Perry's "oops" moment didn't happen?

Posted by: Palin/Cain 2012 at November 10, 2011 11:35 AM (uEVpu)

You obviously weren't in the live chat. It was much "oof"ed about.

22 P.S. Cain is still the worst candidate.

P.P.S. Palin is STILL unelectable. If she's lost my sympathy, she's a goner.

23 My grandparents lived into their 80s by eating meat, gravy, bacon, sausage, and lard.  I'm sticking with that.

24

The diet soda one I buy, but I don't know if the other sweetener-- the one in Coke Zero, Pepsi Max, and other non-diet diet drinks-- works (or doesn't work) the same way.

Have there been any studies that contradict the "balanced diet and some exercise" plan? 

25 19
Artificial sweeteners raise insulin in some people, not all.

Not as much as sugar does.   I'll stick to diet, but I don't drink it all day long either.

26 I have this wacky theory that the human body is complicated and that what works for one person may not work for another.

*uptwinkles*

27 I did a lot of research on diet after my heart attack. I read old book, I read new books, I went to internet sites of the major hospitals and health organizations.

What consensus I found was there is no consensus as to diet. However most of the newer research indicated that for the large majority of the population salt intake was not an issue. It is only an issue for people who are salt sensitive or who have congestive heart failure.

As far as the rest of the stuff goes fat is most bad for you because if you eat a lot of it and don't exercise it makes you fat.  That and lack of exercise drives up the bad cholesterol which some or questioning now for heart problems.

However almost all agree on these things for heart problems as causes.

1. Genetics/family history
2. Smoking
3. Age
4. Lack of exercise/overweight
5. High blood pressure (usually caused by 4)

28
Floods and droughts in the same place, i.e., the U.K.

29 Artificial sweeteners raise insulin in some people, not all. Oh I had not heard that! I was referring to the ones where supposedly people who drink diet coke are fatter, not that they have poor insulin levels. Knowing women - drink a diet coke and eat a giant Applebees lunch - I was talking about that

30 Eat what you want , die like a man ,, or woman .

31 You obviously weren't in the live chat. It was much "oof"ed about.

And obviously didn't look at the DOOM thread (post or comments).

Really, what more needs to be said: It happened, it sucked, and he's probably done.  Happy now?

32 15 Diet soda sucks...it's infused with the rat poison Aspartame...give me good old fashioned high fructose corn syrup any day.
_________

There are diet sodas that have no aspertame. My favorites are Pepsi One and Hansen's Diet Pomegranate.

(aspertame and I don't get along)

33

So this site is just going to pretend that Rick Perry's "oops" moment didn't happen?

Yes.  FYNQ.

On the salt thing, I have a thyroid that doesn't believe in that whole doing anything or keeping me alive stuff.  Iodized salt is a godsend for me.

 

 

34

Everything in moderation, said the ancient Greeks.

I think they took that literally, and thus moderated in moderation.

35

So my roughly half pound of bacon a day and the heavy whipping cream in my two cups of coffee day make me immortal, right?

Cue the soundtrack... Who wants to live forever

36 Here is what I know. Life causes death.

Life is a sexually-transmitted, terminal disease...

37 One thing I know, no one gets out of this Life alive.

38 Having the body of a greek god, I eat whatever I want ... just sayin' is all ...

39 Lard is good eats. Just sayin. Better than magarine.

40

Yeah, iodized salt is one of those great public health success stories.  It's like flouridated water, only more proven and with fewer fearmongering conspriracy theories.  Or cavity prevention.

41

<<However most of the newer research indicated that for the large majority of the population salt intake was not an issue. It is only an issue for people who are salt sensitive or who have congestive heart failure.>>

Yet, every time my husband has a stint put in, the first thing the hospital dietician tells him is to cut out salt.

42 A diet of pudding and flaming skulls wrapped in sizzling bacon will make you live to be 120 and give you a permanent hard-on. Now, to get money from the gubmint to research this.

43 Mitt Romney is also good for you.

44
Just read the words I bolded for you.


"There are no fewer than fifty days to set the course for the next few decades. So as we convene here we carry great responsibilities and the world is watching. If we do not reach a deal over the next few months, let us be in no doubt, since once the damage from unchecked emissions growth is done, no retrospective global agreement in some future period can undo that choice. By then it will be irretrievably too late, so we should never allow ourselves to lose sight of the catastrophe we face if present warming trends continue."

--Gordon Lying Asshole Brown
October 2009

45 Way off-topic:

Does someone have a round-up and bitch-slaps from Newt from last night? I was streaming off a bootlegged stream, and it was choppy at best.

46
So, then, fuck it, right?

47

'Conventional wisdom' used to be: "the Sun is good for you, getting a tan is healthy".

Then, that changed to: "the Sun is bad for you, it causes cancer".

So now, millions of people have a Vit-D deficiency to some degree because they avoid getting sun on their skin altogether.....thinking that they doing the right thing.

I think the Greeks had it right: ....'Nothing in excess'.

48 1. Genetics/family history
2. Smoking
3. Age
4. Lack of exercise/overweight
5. High blood pressure (usually caused by 4)

Posted by: Vic at November 10, 2011 11:45 AM (YdQQY)

The health effect elephant in the room that nobody talks about is the constant cloud of poison gas we live in...replacing our oxygen supply with unbreathable car exhaust is going to have an effect.

I'm not a moonbat, just saying.  If you put someone in a garage with a car, close all the doors and windows and start the engine, they'll die.  So what's the difference between that one car in that one garage and 150 million cars and the breathable atmosphere from zero to 10,000 feet, which is the only breathable part?

I'm pretty sure you need oxygen to burn fat.

49

One of the things that mapping the human genome was supposed to help with was understanding individual biochemisty, so that your doctor could prescribe-- or tailor-- better drugs based on an individual's quirks.

Like how aspirin works on some people's headaches, others swear by Alleve, only on a much bigger and more complex scale.

Also, I want to point out my theory about health books:  People usually read them to justify what they're already doing, or would like to.

50 What, you mean tweaking an ultra-complex system based on incomplete information and then telling others to do the same can have unintended bad consequences? No way! You should save that and use for the global warming post.

51 The diet soda study is complete b.s. -- correlation is not causation.

Coca-cola did research in the late 70s that showed people who consumed diet soda wanted a sweeter drink with less bite than regular Coke.  This is the reason why Diet Coke has a completely different formula than regular Coke, and why Coke Zero is a different drink.  Diet Coke was formulated to be sweeter, whereas Coke Zero is formulated to taste like regular Coke.  Remember "New Coke" in the 80s?  That was just Diet Coke with sugar instead of aspartame.

So if a consumer of diet soda tends to have a sweet tooth, chances are he's consuming more than just diet soda.  That's the reason diet soda drinkers are still getting fat.

52 Yet, every time my husband has a stint put in, the first thing the hospital dietician tells him is to cut out salt.

Yep, my cardiologist told me the same thing about 3 months ago. Keep in mind that most of these folks were educated 20 or 30 years ago. Some follow all the latest literature, but I have a feeling that most don't.

However, on the salt thingy I did an experiment myself. I did a full day of hourly BP readings and logged them with a normal diet in which I ate normal stuff, no salt worries. The next day I ate salted potato chips all day i.e. heavy salt diet. took hourly BP readings. Absolutely no difference. From that I took it that the recent research was correct.

53 Every other day, coffee is good, coffee is bad. Sugar is good, sugar is bad. High carb-low carb. Total BS. Life is way too short to worry about what I'm going to eat. Eat whatever the hell you want, just don't go nuts.

54 You can eat anything you want.  You just can't eat all of it.  Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go shove my face into a bowl of cheetos. 

 

Posted by: alexthechick at November 10, 2011 11:41 AM (VtjlW
sure sure, but what about that orange glow on your complexion!

55
If we don't stop global warming right now, some people will get fat and some people will die, and some people will need to wear eyeglasses.

56
Leaves will dry up and fall off the branches of trees if we do nothing about global warming.

57

Jim Fixx died while jogging.  Just.  Sayin'. 

58 Posted by: alexthechick at November 10, 2011 11:41 AM (VtjlW sure sure, but what about that orange glow on your complexion! Posted by: willow at November 10, 2011 11:56 AM (h+qn8 That explains Charlie "Cheetos" Crist.

59

sure sure, but what about that orange glow on your complexion!

There's a web comic out there with one of the characters eating cheetos with chopsticks and I was all . . . .   That would never have occurred to me in a thousand years.

60
People will drop dead while jogging if we continue on this path of destroying the planet.

61 Nothing will happen if we do nothing about global nothingness.

62

<<So, then, fuck it, right?>>

Pretty much.

63 The GF just got out of the hospital, she had some problems as a result of low sodium.  If you get most of your calories from cigarettes and beer you might want to get some supplemental salt.

64
Steve Jobs will die if we do nothing about global warming.

Do you want Steve Jobs to die?

65 The EPA is lowering the required PPM addition of fluoride in drinking water. Posted by: General Jack D. Ripper at November 10, 2011 11:59 AM (IhHdM) Well, we're getting British National Health so we might as well have their teeth.

66 A bunch of lab rats got together and decided men & women in lab coats cause cancer.

67

68 Speaking of delicious food, I can't decide what to have for lunch. Narrowed it down to an egg salad on rye from the hippie-run grocery store I just discovered or a big ass Italian grinder from Jersey Mike's. Both require about a 5 minute drive.

69 Skyrim is here early!

Nobody does immerse gaming like Bethesda

70 A diet of pudding and flaming skulls wrapped in sizzling bacon will make you live to be 120 and give you a permanent hard-on.



Now, to get money from the gubmint to research this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 10, 2011 11:51 AM (UlUS4)

Do you have a newsletter ?

 

71

66 sooth

 

i didn't do anything about global warming but i had no idea it was going to kill steve jobs........spoiler alert........he died............

72 Posted by: The Jackhole at November 10, 2011 12:02 PM (nTgAI) That's why I need that loan.

73 I would give up my wife before I gave up salt Sorry honey if you read this In my defense, my ass would be gone for a nice pair of heels

74 Oooh, egg salad. Bet you're popular in the office...

75 Speaking of delicious food, I can't decide what to have for lunch. Narrowed it down to an egg salad on rye from the hippie-run grocery store I just discovered or a big ass Italian grinder from Jersey Mike's. Both require about a 5 minute drive.

Posted by: Lincolntf at November 10, 2011 12:01 PM (Qjh0I)

Go for the egg salad and stink up the place

 

76

I knew my AoSHQ-approved-sedentary lifestyle would pay off!! 

Pass the BACON!!

77 This is an excellent example of why it is a monumentally stupid idea to segue from physicians to nurse practitioners and techs for health care.

The body is an incredibly complicated system, and seemingly simple changes like decreasing salt intake can have far-reaching effects.

78
I rest my case.

We must stop global warming now.

79 Everything in moderation, said the ancient Greeks. Mitt Romney

80

I'm not a moonbat, just saying.  If you put someone in a garage with a car, close all the doors and windows and start the engine, they'll die.  So what's the difference between that one car in that one garage and 150 million cars and the breathable atmosphere from zero to 10,000 feet, which is the only breathable part?

Modern exhaust catalysts are remarkable things. For the most part car exhaust is now reduced to CO₂ and water vapor. The other gasses are something like 1-5% combined.

Those trees the greenies are always hugging take that CO₂ and give us back Oxygen.

81 if you had only let me in on that little secret earlier....i could have done something........

82 The main reason I'm considering the egg salad sandwich today is that my day got washed out and I know I'll be eating alone.
My wife doesn't allow it (or any mayo-based salad) in the house. I have to pick my spots.

83 If you don't get enough salt, this is what happens to you: http://cheezburger.com/ukulelemike/lolz/View/3009200896 Take heed, my people.

84

84 lincolntf

 

why does your wife hate you?

85
Funny thing about the Earth's atmosphere: it's gi-frickin-normous.

86 This is why I believe the hottest corner of Hell is reserved for people like Mayer Bloomberg and Michelle Obama who use the force of government to institutionalize these dietary recommendations and lifestyle choices. Statistical medical studies are notoriously subject to errors and biases and are easy to manipulate to produce whatever result you want. We just don't know enough to be sure which theory is correct, or which theory applies to which people when individual metabolisms vary all over the map. It's one of the worst uses of government to overrule the market of ideas and lock out the improved knowledge that we'll have in the future.

87
PPM

Parts per million.

It's a funny thing, too. Look it up.

88  This is an excellent example of why it is a monumentally stupid idea to segue from physicians to nurse practitioners and techs for health care.

The body is an incredibly complicated system, and seemingly simple changes like decreasing salt intake can have far-reaching effects.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at November 10, 2011 12:04 PM (ES+yV)

I haven't seen my GP in years.. he is an old fart. I always see the nurse practioner, she keeps up on everything and actually talks to you .

 

89 Eat healthy or die? Oh come on that's old fashion thinking. Remember in the old days when it was thought that a Government should not spend trillions more than it took in?

90 And add me to the "put salt on a salt lick crowd". I have full blood work done annually (and have for 11 years now) and I don't have BP issues.

91 phoenixgirl,
I imagine she has a comprehensive list somewhere.

92 In my close to 50 years on this earth "scientists" have told me.

We're all going to freeze
We're all going to burn up
We're all going starve due to population
Margarine is better than butter
Butter is better than margarine
Eggs are bad
Eggs are good
Salt will kill you
Some salt is good
Etc

I've decided to just ignore them and do what I think makes sense based on experience.

93 Yes we greeks have it right ... Flex!!!!

94
Global Warmingism is just like the Jehova's Witnesses who kept moving up the date of the Rapture.

95 uh. this is off topic, but here it is anyway: Sandusky Rumored to Have Pimped Boys to Rich Second Mile Donors
http://tinyurl.com/8xlglr3

96

Modern exhaust catalysts are remarkable things. For the most part car exhaust is now reduced to CO₂ and water vapor. The other gasses are something like 1-5% combined.

Those trees the greenies are always hugging take that CO₂ and give us back Oxygen.

Posted by: Scott J at November 10, 2011 12:04 PM (/bVuS)

...and O₃ a..k.a. ozone?...you counting that as 'enhanced oxygen'?...cuz it's poisonous you know.

97 Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 10, 2011 12:05 PM (UlUS4)

Ok, I lol'ed.

98

I have the body of a god... Buddha

I am in shape... round is a shape  

99 I'm not a moonbat, just saying.  If you put someone in a garage with a car, close all the doors and windows and start the engine, they'll die.  So what's the difference between that one car in that one garage and 150 million cars and the breathable atmosphere from zero to 10,000 feet, which is the only breathable part?

You're not a moonbat really? You make an argument like one, ignoring known facts and using broad dissimilar situations.

The toxic gas in automobile exhaust is CO carbon monoxide, the highly reactive cousin to CO₂. It bonds with hemoglobin displacing oxygen and in this way causes death. It is highly reactive and shortly becomes CO₂ once it gets into the atmosphere. Once it is CO₂ it is reprocessed back to O₂ in photosynthesis. Buildup of toxic quantities of CO in the atmosphere is just not possible for this reason. Oh and the largest contributors to CO concentration are fires, and volcanoes, not combustion engine exhaust.

Your type of idiot childish analysis is why environmental regulation is overburdensom in this country; and a huge contributor to our manufacturing downturn.

CAR EXHAUST!!! Eventually it will KILL us all when it fills up everything!!!! No, no it won't.

100 Sandusky Rumored to Have Pimped Boys to Rich Second Mile Donors

Flash: "CNN announces new news anchor, Sandusky"

101 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

102 I knew my diet was excellent!!!

103 I get so sick of do gooders trying to preach about what is and isn't good for you. It is plain flat out common sense. Anything done to an extreme can be a problem. There is nothing wrong with eating reasonable amounts of bacon, beef, or pork. But if you eat a 3/4 lb t-bone steak 4 or 5 times a week you will probably get fat. There is nothing wrong with eating a serving of potato chips, but if you eat a 1 lb bag every night while watching tv, you'll probably get fat. We don't need food police, we need to get back to the days when parents expected their kids to exercise some self restraint.

104
Candadave, imagine if everyone, all 6B people, jumped up and down at the same time.

We'd have a global earthquake!

Now imagine if everyone farted at the same time...

105

The O₃ is again a tiny fraction.

The EPA's shakedown over ground level ozone is mostly nonsense. The areas where they are able to get away with it have geographic issues more than anything else.

Such as my hometown of Birmingham which sits in a big bowl essentially.

Are you old enough to remember real smog from the late 60's and early 70's? Our improvements have been simply amazing.

106
Rush is hitting it out of the ballpark right now.

107 I actually do a toxin flush every 3 months or so. Lots of fresh veggie and fruit juices, salads, lean meats. Only one cup of coffee and glass of wine per day. Do it for about 2-3 weeks. Tough but you really shit your brains out after a few days. Then start all over again with the bacon infusions.

108 Flash: "CNN announces new news anchor, Sandusky" Posted by: Cherry pi at November 10, 2011 12:12 PM (OhYCU) Actually as bad as CNN is that is more like in MSNBC's territory. With the likes of Al Sharpy Sharpton, Sandusdky would fit right in

109

Candadave, imagine if everyone, all 6B people, jumped up and down at the same time.

We'd have a global earthquake!

No, no. The continents would tip over first.

110
Actually potato chips are the worst thing for you. They are terrible for you. Complete junk.

111 A few years ago I lost sixty pounds on weight watchers. During that time I ate in restaurants from Friday through Sunday, ate beef and pork most days, ate potatoes, pasta, and bread, and went to a candy store almost every Saturday after being weighed at weight watchers. Moderation. Giving up bacon, beef, pork, and candy, just makes you want it more. Eat a nice serving of steak or pork chop, or candy,and you are less likely to feel the need to gorge.

112 I lost 45 pounds a few years ago, but a lot of fat chicks comment on how bad my diet is.

113

Buildup of toxic quantities of CO in the atmosphere is just not possible for this reason. Oh and the largest contributors to CO concentration are fires, and volcanoes, not combustion engine exhaust.

Really?...so that 40 million barrel a day habit the US has is going to have no. effect. what. so. ever.

Your type of idiot childish analysis is why environmental regulation is overburdensom in this country; and a huge contributor to our manufacturing downturn.

Your manufacturing downturn is because all your industry got shipped to China and India.

CAR EXHAUST!!! Eventually it will KILL us all when it fills up everything!!!! No, no it won't.

Well, let's put you in my proverbial garage and see

 

114 Posted by: soothsayer at November 10, 2011 12:15 PM (sqkOB) Yes, but Cape Cod chips make a great omelette. You have to let the chips soak in the eggs for a good while to soften up.

115
When I was on the wagon I got my first two bouts of gout.

Since I've gone back to drinking beer? No gout attacks.

116 My favorite scene in Sleeper was when he found the dusty old Beetle in the cave...and it still ran.

117 but here it is anyway: Sandusky Rumored

As much of a monster as he is, I guess it wouldn't surprise me.  But he's in enough hot water (and so are the Charity he founded, and PSU) without adding "rumor" to the mix.

I'm pretty sure he'd get the death penalty in TX (if convicted) (rape of a minor under 13), so I don't think he'll ever see the light of day again.

118

112
Actually potato chips are the worst thing for you. They are terrible for you. Complete junk.

No. I can do worse.

I've been known at times to make a cup of buttercream icing fromt he recipe on the side of a box of Domino confectioner's sugar.

Then just eat it with a spoon.

That's probably the most unhealty thing I can think of.

119 OT - The countdown has begun: (thanks to Weasel Zippers)

Report: Israel May Launch Strike On Iran As Soon As Next Month To Prevent Development of Nuclear WeaponsÂ…

120 you know if you sit in your recliner long enough...you can be fused to it...article at drudge...

121 Let's talk about Rick Perry's terrible debate performance last time!  After all, here at AoSHQ, we're so very hot to vet all of our candidates sufficiently, and it definitely could be a problem if our nominee ends up being an inarticulate buffoon who will get eaten alive by 0bama.

122 You know what?I don't really give a fuck what the "experts" say anyway.I'll eat and drink and smoke wwhat I want.It's my life to do with as I choose.

123 Every GOP candidate must pass the brain fart test.

This important test was added for the 2012 cycle.

124 Actually potato chips are the worst thing for you. They are terrible for you. Complete junk.

Maybe.  But they're tasty.

Your manufacturing downturn is because all your industry got shipped to China and India.

And the industry got shipped to China and India (at least in part) because of over-burdensome regulation.

125

117
When I was on the wagon I got my first two bouts of gout.

Since I've gone back to drinking beer? No gout attacks.

Interesting. My doc is evaluating me for gout.

My uric acid levels haven't gotten into the usual gout PPM but have been borderline for years.

Recently had some foot pain we could explain no other way so he's put me on meds to reduce the acid.

I might like the beer better

126 124 You know what?I don't really give a fuck what the "experts" say anyway.I'll eat and drink and smoke wwhat I want.It's my life to do with as I choose.

Besides, all these health gurus are going to feel stupid when they're all in the hospitals dying of nothing.

127 It's not the chips but the oil they are fried in. Chips fried in better quality oils are not so evil.

128 I am appalled at the lack of butter discussion in what's supposed to be a health thread.

129 I read a groundbreaking story that women who perform oral sex on a man at least once per day and swallow the jizz live an average of 20 healthy years longer than stingy uncooperative bitches. I swear it, I do...

130

And the industry got shipped to China and India (at least in part) because of over-burdensome regulation.

Have you seen that website with the pictures of the horrid polution over there?

131 Posted by: maddogg at November 10, 2011 12:21 PM (OlN4e) I also read the Oil of Olay is developing a pearl necklace cream.

132 China is going to collapse.It is going to be ugly.Very ugly.

133

The O₃ is again a tiny fraction.

Maybe if you live upwind...I don't...I find it ironic that places like Texas and Alberta say these kinds of things being upwind of most of it.  Try living in the US NE or Eastern Canada for a few years...we're downwind of all of it.

Anyway, I was just trying to point out a factor that's not ever considered in the obesity debate...we're stuck with oil till we get something better.

134
hahaha @ the recipes on Dominos boxes

you know it's bad for you, but you gotta do it

135 Have you seen that website with the pictures of the horrid polution over there?

No, but I can imagine.  I didn't say they're doing it right, just that we're doing it wrong.

136

Recently had some foot pain we could explain no other way so he's put me on meds to reduce the acid.

I might like the beer better

Posted by: Scott J at November 10, 2011 12:20 PM (/bVuS)

If your doc writes you a script for beer, can you then pay for it out of your health savings account?

137 I highly recommend the Fuck-like Rabbits-Diet. ....It burns calories, gives you something to do with your hands and mouth, instead of eating junk....good cardio workout too.

138
Even the "healthier" chips are pretty bad.

139 I am appalled at the lack of butter discussion in what's supposed to be a health thread. Posted by: David Frum at November 10, 2011 12:20 PM (zgHLA) Ever see "Last Tango in Paris"?

140 OT: I see by following the first abcnews.com link that Obama is just going to delay implementation of the Christmas Tree tax.

141 As much of a monster as he is, I guess it wouldn't surprise me.  But he's in enough hot water (and so are the Charity he founded, and PSU) without adding "rumor" to the mix.

I'm pretty sure he'd get the death penalty in TX (if convicted) (rape of a minor under 13), so I don't think he'll ever see the light of day again.

It's already one of the worst scandals in sports history. But if the latter is true, I think it may be THE worst scandal in sports history.

142 139.....oops, shoulda said "instead of eating junk food". ....Heh.

143

Chemtrails are the problem. They will make us all gay but no one listens to me.

144 What scientists fail to mention in their search for the perfect diet and perfect health is that everybody dies anyway. 

145 117 127 I am prone to gout as well. Beer is ESPECIALLY high in purines as are all spirits distilled from grains. Cocoa, beer, mushrooms, asparagus, spinach, organ meats can all trigger an attack. Even high doses of vitamin C. The key is eating a lot of each or in combination. Also, drink as much water as possible. I also take a water pill for my pressure and that can aggravate it.

146

If your doc writes you a script for beer, can you then pay for it out of your health savings account?

You know I hadn't thought about that. Hmmmm. I'll have to ask him about it.

147

Have you seen that website with the pictures of the horrid polution over there?

Posted by: Scott J at November 10, 2011 12:21 PM (/bVuS)

Yeah, all those Chinese wearing masks and stuff, like that's going to help...eventually they'll start doing exhaust gas reburn like we do to make it more invisible, then they won't worry so much about what they're breathing.

148 High-five for the Last Tango butter reference. Classic.

149 The diet soda thing is stupid.

Stop snacking, and learn what a portion is.

150
rdbrewer:

Thanks for the post. It reminded me to put the last three bottles of Blue Moon in the freezer.

151

137, here you go. Think of this the next time you see "made in China" on anything.

http://tinyurl.com/yly2v5r

I know it's next to impossible to avoid these days but I try to when I can.

152
Learn how to read nutrition labels.

153 "Tough but you really shit your brains out after a few days." Or just drink a couple of glasses of apple juice a day for two or three days. The same thing happens.

154 Tough but you really shit your brains out after a few days."

Or just drink a couple of glasses of apple juice a day for two or three days. The same thing happens.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 10, 2011 12:31 PM (AF1jB)

 

Or 4 or 5 taco Bell tacos with hot sauce.. best laxative there is

155 117 127
I am prone to gout as well. Beer is ESPECIALLY high in purines as are all spirits distilled from grains.

Cocoa, beer, mushrooms, asparagus, spinach, organ meats can all trigger an attack. Even high doses of vitamin C. The key is eating a lot of each or in combination. Also, drink as much water as possible. I also take a water pill for my pressure and that can aggravate it. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 10, 2011 12:26 PM

I have gout, as well.  I stopped drinking beer about a year ago, much beer anyway, and have had no gout attacks.  I'm torn between beer wonderful beer and suffering the worst pain I have ever felt in my life a couple of times a year.  It's a quandary.

156 Posted by: Scott J at November 10, 2011 12:29 PM (/bVuS)

Jeez, that is worse than I had imagined. Fuck those companies who move their business there to save a buck.

157 CanaDave,

CO is nasty stuff, but there's a certain threshold for it to do you harm.  The harm it causes doesn't scale with concentration (i.e., although one part per thousand will kill everyone who breathes it, one part per billion will not kill one person in a million, it'll kill no one).  It's been explained to you why its concentration can't build up in the atmosphere to the levels it does in your garage, but you didn't like that.

Irrespective of pollution, air is toxic.  Oxygen has unpaired electrons.  These cause radical damage to living systems.  We have evolved superb systems to repair that damage.  They catch almost all the mistakes.  The ones they miss will kill us eventually.

So the air we breathe is toxic to us no matter how pure it is.

158 OT: I see by following the first abcnews.com link that Obama is just going to delay implementation of the Christmas Tree tax.

I noticed the delay word, too. We're supposed to be grateful I guess.

On the diet topic, I remember a popular diet book from about ten years ago that argued the best diet is the one that closely resembles what humans have eaten for thousands and thousands of years: lots of meat, fruit and vegetables, but minimize processed foods. Makes sense to me since it's what we ate as we evolved.

159

It's really not that complicated ... our dietary requirements are encoded into our DNA - and they were put there by thousands of years of evolution.  Early man was a BIG GAME hunter and this cannot be denied.  He evolved to eat RED MEAT, White Meat, fish.  He had no agriculture though he did eat rabbit foods when he discovered them - and he didn't eat them in the winter at all because they didn't grow then.

 

Eskimos lived on a staple of whale blubber - pure fat.

 

The liberals got ahold of the diet science the same way they got ahold of the climate science.  In order to destroy Western Civilization - they created this myth that the stuff encoded into our DNA from our very origins is bunk - and we should all eat rabbit food. 

 

Rabbit food has reduced testosterone in western males - and we now see birth rates in steep decline.  Rabbit food makes you passive - and we now see western males being feminized into "beta males".  It's disgusting.  Eat Red Meat - builds testosterone - makes men ... men.

160 So what's the difference between that one car in that one garage and 150 million cars and the breathable atmosphere from zero to 10,000 feet, which is the only breathable part?

Clearly, nothing, which is why you're dead, and typing from beyond the grave, or something.

Oh, wait.

161

Have you seen that website with the pictures of the horrid polution over there?

Posted by: Scott J at November 10, 2011 12:21 PM (/bVuS)

I've made many  trips to China.  I can remember seeing a blue sky on only a handful of occasions.  Mostly its lead gray.  The smog is awful.

Water is even scarier.  When you fly over bodies of water, you can see plumes of yellow or brown material pouring into them.  I use bottled water but it probably is just the same.

162 On the diet topic, I remember a popular diet book from about ten years ago that argued the best diet is the one that closely resembles what humans have eaten for thousands and thousands of years: lots of meat, fruit and vegetables, but minimize processed foods. Makes sense to me since it's what we ate as we evolved.

Posted by: Retread at November 10, 2011 12:34 PM (nhPrE)

That does not apply to me. My wife always said I never did evolve, I just got old.

163 Never have anal sex with a gay Haitian drug addict.  Or at least do it in moderation.

164 "I remember a popular diet book from about ten years ago that argued the best diet is the one that closely resembles what humans have eaten for thousands and thousands of years: lots of meat, fruit and vegetables, but minimize processed foods. Makes sense to me since it's what we ate as we evolved." It's still popular. They call it the Paleo diet and I'm sure there's info on Google if you look it up.

165 So, maddogg, that makes you the proto-moron, huh?

166 The problem I see with the nomadic or caveman diet is that we would have to suppose that they knew what even we with our science and research haven't nailed down yet. And it is very likely that they simply ate what they could, when they could get it. I doubt they had that much of a choice, and I think, given a choice, they would rather eat our diet.

167 gout sucks. It's an old man disease, but I started getting it in my early 20s. Everyone in my family has it.

When I was 25 or so with the first attack I thought I'd kicked the bed post and fractured my toe during the night.  Limped to work, by mid-day I could barely walk.

Extremely painful. Although the kind of pain that is easy to bear since it's just a toe. I'll stress out more over a bad case of heartburn since I have a family history of heart disease. Start getting pains in your chest and head and, at least in me, it triggers more worry about something serious.

With gout it mainly just is extreme pain in my big toe. Like somebody smashed it with a hammer.

Red meat and red wine seem to be my main triggers. But I mainly eat chicken these days and haven't had an attack in years.

168 Check and see if the documentary "Fat Head" is still streaming on Netflix. It has a good history of the government-nutritional complex's follies in the interests of pseudo-scientific studies and cronyism. Eerily similar to the AGW scam.

169
I've got elevated cholesterol. At first it was so high the doctor gave me a raft of shit about it. So I just avoided most dairy products, ate lean meat and lots of oatmeal. My cholesterol dropped pretty quickly.

I switched doctors a few months ago and got tested. The new doc says I have an "elevated" cholesterol level but apparently not high enough to concern him greatly. So I went back on a low cholesterol regimine.

I can eat a daily diet with less than 50% RDA of cholesterol with little or any sacrifice. Occasionally I splurge (had pizza and stromboli for birthday dinner) but I expect my level to drop by my next test.

My sister gave me a 5.1 oz. bag of Lindor truffles yesterday. It'll probably last until Easter.

170

With gout it mainly just is extreme pain in my big toe. Like somebody smashed it with a hammer.

Mine showed up as pain on the outside of my right foot. But very much the smashed by a hammer feeling.

Let it go almost 2 weeks before I finally called the doc.

171

Lindor truffles

Little bits of evil temptation those are.

172

It's been explained to you why its concentration can't build up in the atmosphere to the levels it does in your garage, but you didn't like that.

That's good...lots of scientists have been trying to explain things to us for a while now, so your explanation is good but the global warming scientists are wrong?  I don't see how your claim is any more legitimate than theirs...a slick, scientific sounding explanation.

173 It's still popular. They call it the Paleo diet and I'm sure there's info on Google if you look it up.

What was interesting to me was it described pretty much what I grew up on, meat and a couple of veggies for dinner and fruit in season for dessert. Cake once in a while if we were lucky.

One other thing, salt and pepper shakers were always on the table.

174 One of these days, people will realize that sugar is good for you, completing the whole Good is Bad, Bad is Good cycle.

175
  Never did worry (and still don't) about diet. I consider anything, with few exceptions, that doesn't move quick enough as fair game.  Tofu being one of the exceptions.

176 Well, we're getting British National Health so we might as well have their teeth.

IMO, I don't believe fluoride has much of anything to do with cavity prevention.  I have great teeth.  I very rarely get cavities and when I get my teeth cleaned, my hygienist says that my teeth are extraordinary.  I use non-fluoride toothpaste and have for years.  I also filter fluoride out of my drinking water, so I ingest little to no fluoride.  Just brush and floss your teeth and you won't have Brit chompers. 

All four of my grandparents lived into their mid to late 90s.  All four ate lard, salt, bacon, sausage, head cheese (!)...two of them smoked.  I think genetics plays the biggest role of all in how an individual's innards handle things.

177 The documentary Fathead also talks about this, like how your body uses chloresterol to good purposes and how the old federal food triangle was devised by radical vegetarians (and probably communists).

178 147
  Cocoa, beer, mushrooms, asparagus, spinach, organ meats can all trigger an attack. Even high doses of vitamin C. The key is eating a lot of each or in combination.

Eat a lot of the triggering foods?  I'm so confused...hubby's got the gout thing.

179 178 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 10, 2011 12:51 PM (ycuSb)

Do you use Reverse Osmosis? Because that's about the only way to remove fluoride from water.

180
The problem I see with the nomadic or caveman diet is that we would have to suppose that they knew what even we with our science and research haven't nailed down yet. And it is very likely that they simply ate what they could, when they could get it.

Early humans ate plenty of fruit, nuts, berries, tubers and every other kind of edible vegetable they could find. Our dentition proves we are omnivores. There's nothing wrong with fish, fowl, pork or red meat, either. It's a matter of balance.

181

Cavemen also, you know, were typically dead by 40.

182  
   Kinds think living conditions had a bit to do with life expectancy as regards cavemen, imho.

183
All four of my grandparents lived into their mid to late 90s.  All four ate lard, salt, bacon, sausage, head cheese (!)...two of them smoked.  I think genetics plays the biggest role of all in how an individual's innards handle things.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 10, 2011 12:51 PM (ycuSb)

Genetics play a larger role than anybody is willing to admit.

As for gout -- a great home remedy is dark red cherry juice concentrate. It's expensive ($15.00/bottle) but if you start drinking it at the outset of gout symptoms (and elevate/don't use the affected joint) it works wonders.

184

No, they all died of cancer, heart failure, osteoperosis, and bad ergonomics, which they got from not eating hot dogs, boloney sandwiches, Twinkies, Cheetos, pies, and Snickers bars.

185 lincolntf- in a former life i was GM at jersey mike's in morrisville NC.  give in to the #13.  you deserve it.

186

Key is that either God, or Evolution, designed these bodies to survive.  I believe that if we LISTEN to our bodies, they will 'tell us' what it needs.

I'm 52, with a Family history of very high Cholestorol, and High Blood pressure, and I eat EVERYTHING they tell me not to.  I'm eat a LOT of Red Fattty meat, some Carbs, don't really like deserts... and take vitamins so I don't have to eat as many vegetables...

I do however, EXCERCISE.

I take NO medication.

I'm the only one in the Family, whose blood pressure, and Cholesterol, is in normal ranges...

Yet they keep trying to tell ME how I 'should' be eating...

187

Seriously, though, the paleo diets probably have some validity re: processed and refined foods, but I'm gonna continue cooking my food, thanks.

 

188

Also, have you seen the prices on saber-toothed tiger and mastodon meat?  They're pretty outrageous.

189
Time Magazine ... the guys who rejoiced when Muslim fanatics firebombed the offices of the French magazine Charlie Hebdo. Thanks for the tip, but I would rather have a vasectomy with a weed whacker than give Time a browser click.

190 183

Cavemen also, you know, were typically dead by 40.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 10, 2011 12:56 PM (zgHLA)

Thats because the Young ones are more tender... past 40 they had to much gristle...

191 Do you use Reverse Osmosis? Because that's about the only way to remove fluoride from water.

Yes, I do.  Actually, I specifically got this kind of filtration to get rid of the fluoride. 

192
  Like I said earlier, if it don't move quick enough, it's on the menu.

193 I don't see how your claim is any more legitimate than theirs...a slick, scientific sounding explanation.

Years and years of repeatable experiments? Something the AGW community has yet to produce, a repeatable result that concludes the world is warming. I know you think mankind is all that; But he ain't. All of our activities produce less than 5% of total CO₂ that is made. Our 40 billion barrel a day habit, not particularly new news. Yeah whatever it's going to do, it's done it.

China is your antithesis. You want to ban sh*t that won't harm anyone. China doesn't care enough to ban the really dangerous stuff.

Reality; in fact sanity, lies somewhere between your envirofascism and China's enviro-apathy, and quite a bit less draconian that what we currently have.

194

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at November 10, 2011 01:09 PM (0q2P7)

Watts worse? (pun intended)....

With the fact that the world is overdue for an Ice Age? You may wish the Man Made Global Warming folks had been correct... and Man COULD control the worlds Temp....

195 NASA: Climate monitoring, Muslim outreach and obesity epidemic police. It's coming soon. They have nothing else to do. Bacon, Italian sausage, pork sausage, eggs and cheddar. Isn't that what everyone had for breakfast?

196 I am adding my loudmouth opinion to the sodium/high blood pressure debate. When you ingest sodium above what your body needs, it attempts to bring the nutrient back into balance by making you thirsty. You drink fluids and they help bring the concentration of sodium in the body back into balance. One of the effects is an increase in your blood volume from the excess fluid. Since your blood vessels are the same size as before, the pressure has to increase. The study mentioned noted that they didn't think they got good results from the low-sodium group because they produced less urine. That tells me the scientists involved are stupid. If you take in less sodium, you will drink less. I am on a low-sodium diet because of kidney failure. Since I can't eliminate excess fluids from my body naturally, I have to be careful how much fluid I take in. Most days, I have a cup of coffee in the morning and nothing else all day. By keeping sodium low, I don't get thirsty, so I don't need to drink. I get all the fluids I need from the foods I eat.

197 Diet is religion. Proof denies faith.

198 CanaDave, 174:

"That's good...lots of scientists have been trying to explain things to us for a while now, so your explanation is good but the global warming scientists are wrong?  I don't see how your claim is any more legitimate than theirs...a slick, scientific sounding explanation."

Those were other scientists.

In the immortal words of Ed Koch: I can explain this to you.  I can't understand it for you.  Bye, now.

199 Recently the FDA declared black licorice to be dangerous for people over 40 and/or with heart problems. My ticker's fine, but yesterday for my 46th birthday I received around 5 pounds of black licorice in various forms (including doubly-deadly double salted licorice). Guess I'm a goner. Oh well, it's all downhill from here anyway.