August 07, 2011

The "Tea Party Downgrade" UPDATED
— Dave in Texas

I predicted this yesterday. And I'm just a moron.

"This is a Tea Party Downgrade"

It's "terrorism" to want to hold the line on taxes. It's "terrorism" to balk at a debt ceiling hike that doesn't increase taxes. It's "terrorism" to disagree with the Democrats as they struggle to continue their massive expansion of the federal government and shield the impact of this horrible economy from unions, their voters, and their complicit corporate cronies.

In short it's the fault of the Tea Party, all this malaise. Not the fault of Barack Obama and his 3 year policies. Which include subsidizing Brazilian oil exploration while choking it to death right the fuck here.

We're not done. We're just gettin warmed up.

UPDATE: We are ungovernable when we say "uhm, no". John F'n Kerry piles onto the meme.. Tea Party Downgrade. via andy.

via Treacher

Posted by: Dave in Texas at 01:06 PM | Comments (526)
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1 They haven't seen us when we're truly angry yet.

Posted by: cranky-d at August 07, 2011 01:12 PM (x4WAz)

2 Obviously it's the tea party's fault for bringing attention to the fact that today's federal government is an unsustainable lie.

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 01:13 PM (sOXQX)

3 Jeebus, is it Bush's fault or the Tea Party's fault?  They really need to make up their minds.  Oh, wait, their constituency doesn't have the power of reason, so any old bullshit will do . . .  spits

Posted by: Peaches at August 07, 2011 01:13 PM (XeuJD)

4

Just like Glenn Reynolds suggested, if revenue is what they want, let's give it to 'em. Revive the 20% gross excise tax on Hollywood. Let's give 'em revenue that hurts their own gravy train base, and put them in the position of being against tax increases.

     Think of all the ways to tax liberalism. Let's see, unions, Big Education, endowments for the artsy fartsy shit, tax exempt foundations that fund liberalism. Etc, etc.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 07, 2011 01:13 PM (VVB18)

5 I'm reposting this from this morning's open thread.  The Tea Party hate has begun, even in church:


 So after church this morning, we're having coffee in the fellowship hall.  A retiree from NYC starts talking about the down grade with me (my husband had walked away) and what a mess we're in. 

I mentioned I'm a member of the local Tea Party, and before I could say another word, he glared at me and said, "You and your Tea Party are the cause of the mess we're in.  Until we raise taxes on corporations and businesses, things will never get better."  I replied, "Do you see my husband standing over there?  He's a small business owner, who only in the past few months has been able to turn his company around and begin hiring again.  If you raise taxes on his business, he'll have to begin letter employees go."

The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

I'm still angry.  My husband said later he'd have given anything to have been with me when the guy went after me.  At least now I've identified another lib in the church.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:16 PM (UOM48)

6  Well, if I have my way we'll have the TEA Party unemployment after January, 2013. Whole government departments will be unemployed, Dept. of Education, EPA, BATF, The Obama Injustice Dept., NRLB, and far more. I will be glad to own it, too. They can name it after me, I'll laugh and laugh.

Posted by: Peter at August 07, 2011 01:16 PM (PH4SI)

7
They haven't seen us when we're truly angry yet.
Posted by: cranky-d at August 07, 2011 05:12 PM

I have not yet begun to fight. Don't shoot 'til you see the whites of their eyes.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:18 PM (PNrRc)

8 It'll play with the base but it's wasted on everybody else. It's been 2 plus years now, and at that point you get the responsibility for an economy. It's Barry's economy and Barry's fault, and people are waking up to that.

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 01:18 PM (RD7QR)

9   Think of all the ways to tax liberalism. Let's see, unions, Big Education, endowments for the artsy fartsy shit, tax exempt foundations that fund liberalism. Etc, etc. Posted by: publius

Game winner: 39% tax on all civil trial awards.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2011 01:18 PM (DEcmU)

10

Wait, what's this? You mean they'll still blame us no matter what happens? I could have sworn the two reason to pass the Boehner plan were as follows: 1. We won't win the media war if we don't, 2. We will get our credit downgraded if we don't.

So............

Posted by: Rich at August 07, 2011 01:19 PM (W5Go/)

11 Listening to these people only makes you / us Crazy

so, don't listed  ( or kinda listen but be totally aware that they only talk shit )

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 07, 2011 01:20 PM (UqKQV)

12 Can someone answer me this...

Why doesn't the Tea Party make inroads with the Democratic party?  What I am saying is, try to decouple the movement as a GOP centric group and instead recruit dem voters and politicians to call themselves tea party members.  Do something simple like start a "Tea Party Democrats" organization, which rounds up the names of the 10-20% of registered D /slash/ TP members.  Then run lots of "I'm a Democrat and a TP voter" advertisements.  I think that would go along way to bluinting these type of knee-jerk "extremist!" attacks.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 07, 2011 01:20 PM (bAySe)

13 The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

Most Wall Streeters couldn't find their asses with both hands. There are a colossal number of overeducated, overcredentialed, inbred dickheads running around Manhattan. They all hang out together, work together, go out to bars together, and fornicate together. That's why they're all retarded and wear the same stupid clothes*.

New York is a Democrat stronghold, and Wall Street is no different -- the notion that the world of high finance is dominated by Republicans is a myth.

*I stole this line from Terry Gilliam's The Fisher King. It's very apt.

Posted by: Monty at August 07, 2011 01:21 PM (FC+dS)

14 Game winner: 39% tax on all civil trial awards.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2011 05:18 PM

Ooooh.  That just gave me a tingle.

Posted by: huerfano at August 07, 2011 01:21 PM (iezIp)

15
The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

You just have to stand up to those arrogant bastards. "To repeat: WE'RE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS and I'll pit my knowledge against yours any day."

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:21 PM (PNrRc)

16 So let me make sure I understand this . . . it's because of the people who want government to spend less money that S&P is less sure than they once were that we'll be able to repay our debt?  Have I got that right?
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Please excuse me . . . I need to go shoot myself in the face.

Posted by: jeopardyjackson at August 07, 2011 01:22 PM (2gd6S)

17
Haha, O/T the Hillbuzz guys' nickname for Mitt Romney is "Mood Ring."

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:24 PM (PNrRc)

18 The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

No. Wall Streeters know how to make money on other people innovating and working.

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 01:26 PM (sOXQX)

19 I hate these despicable bastards. They are not misguided. They are malignant and must be defeated and denounced at every turn. They are the genital herpes of history.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 07, 2011 01:26 PM (UlUS4)

20 Big surprise, they're going to Sarah Palin the Tea Party. Anyone who doesn't get it that Obama's administration is a debacle is past hope. Has anyone called the greedy, rich fatcats who fly around in corporate jets terrorists yet? Because that's the kind of brilliant political rhetoric we get from the media, and from the Obama administration.

Posted by: nerdygirl at August 07, 2011 01:27 PM (fHjuj)

21 "So let me make sure I understand this . . . it's because of the people who want government to spend less money that S&P is less sure than they once were that we'll be able to repay our debt?  Have I got that right?"

Yes! And it's the Tea Party's fault that they stopped our preznint and the Dems from discussing all these wonderful ideas we have to jump start the economy. They wouldn't let us! No sir, none of that talk allowed by those Tearrorists!

Posted by: PJ at August 07, 2011 01:27 PM (FlVA8)

22 As mentioned, any excuse will do, their base will and wants to blame someone else. Hell, why do you think they threw out that bullshit about the $2tillion dispute? So the base could claim S&P had their numbers wrong. The fact that S&P came out and said the regime is full of shit and that $2trillion wouldn't have mattered anyway will never enter or impose itself upon their minds.

All that has to be said to blow this whole thing up in the faces of those who want to blame the Tea Party is say, "Why is bad credit the fault of the people who want to spend less money?" And, "How does spending more money give us better credit?"

Posted by: Jimmuy at August 07, 2011 01:29 PM (GXG5+)

23 I think it would be useful if someone compiled clips of Dem operatives uttering the exact same fucking thing everytime they come up with a new bon mot of a talking point.  Time stamp each instance and see how many time its repeated within a single news cycle.

You could come up with an effective political ad just repeating back their bullshit in rapid succession.  Without comment. 

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 07, 2011 01:29 PM (bAySe)

24 @5  My husband said if he'd been standing there he would have asked the guy, "If you really feel so passionate about raising revenues, why don't you just go ahead and write the government a check for half your accumulated wealth?"

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:29 PM (UOM48)

25 "Egregious mathematical error?" Liar! From Gateway Pundit: The man who leads one of China’s top rating agencies says the greenback’s status as the world’s reserve currency is set to wane as the world’s most powerful policy makers convene to examine the implication of S&P’s decision to strip the United States of its triple “A” rating. In comments emailed to CNBC, Guan Jianzhong, chairman of Dagong Global Credit Rating, said the currency is “gradually discarded by the world,” and the “process will be irreversible.”

Posted by: USA at August 07, 2011 01:29 PM (6Cjut)

26 DiT, I want to thank you for the fine work you have been doing. Keep on feeding us those talking points; your assistance has been invaluable.

Posted by: Grand Poobah of the Democrats at August 07, 2011 01:31 PM (KWRg9)

27 Yeah dickweeds, it IS terrorism to disagree with a democrat! Now as a democrat, I say Da Bears will win it all Disagree if you hate america

Posted by: Navy COP joe aka supercabbie!!! at August 07, 2011 01:31 PM (oay47)

28 The Tea Party brought us to the brink. 

It was not the unprecedented spending that pushed the debt to untenable proportions.  It was the Tea Party opposing that spending that caused the whole fucking thing.  Hell, even Bob couldn't swallow that shit sandwich.  Apparently, Axelturd believes you should shoot the messenger.

Posted by: huerfano at August 07, 2011 01:31 PM (iezIp)

29

8 People shot and killed in Ohio including a kid.

http://tinyurl.com/3n9wrym

 

Posted by: robtr at August 07, 2011 01:33 PM (MtwBb)

30 "This is a Tea Party Downgrade" Oh, you must have imagined this. It cannot have happened. Impossible. Because just Friday Ed Morrissey assured us on his show that We Changed The Debate and the debt deal prevented Republicans from being blamed for any crisis stemming from the deal. Yep, that is sure working out well. There is no strategy like pretending you can outflank the Make Believe Media. Just ask Cabin Boy Ed.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 01:34 PM (AZGON)

31 Again: As Rush has said, we have two options for dealing with the far left, 1) victory or 2) re-education camps--and we don't have time to re-educate them.

There is no negotiation.
There is no middle ground.
There are no common morals.
There are no common goals.
There is nothing they want that is compatible with any part of a free and prosperous society. Every word, every thing they say that sounds in support of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution is a lie.

Posted by: Jimmuy at August 07, 2011 01:35 PM (GXG5+)

32 HELL YEAH! Tax Big Trial Lawyers. 75% tax on all punitive damages from medical malpractice to go straight to Medicare/Medicaid. I love it.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 07, 2011 01:36 PM (VVB18)

33 So the blsoted federla government says it's the other guys fault. I say it's the spending downgrade.

Posted by: tarpon at August 07, 2011 01:36 PM (MoWf3)

34 Well, I will be "curious" to see if the repubs defend the tea party.  They claimed the tea party when it gave them the majority, so will the cowards defend us now?

BTW, and O/T,  Hillbuzz has thoughts on the Seal 6 team.  Hillbuzz.org.  I can't use tiny url.

Posted by: chillin the most at August 07, 2011 01:37 PM (6IV8T)

35 I could explain how all you terrorists caused this but look, Rick Perry failed Organic Chemistry in college. Don't you think that's the more important issue here? Don't be such a bunch of rage queens.

Posted by: Neal Marks - Washington Correspondent at August 07, 2011 01:37 PM (ZgvjV)

36 All of you Establishment types who wanted to claim the "compromise" a victory should have seen this coming.

They would have a lot harder time pushing this nonsense of a Tea Party downgrade if you had said it was a complete cave to the Left that it really was. It's not like we weren't warned that by not making any serious attempt at bringing the spending under control would lead to a downgrade.

Posted by: That's Mr Hobbit to you at August 07, 2011 01:37 PM (sbaXF)

37 As Jonah Goldberg said, To Hell with you people. As earlier noted, the argument for taking a bite of the Boehner shit sandwich was that if we didn't, the credit rating would get downgraded and conservatives would be blamed for it. Well la-di-fucking-da we took the compromise and the credit rating got downgraded and conservatives are blamed. Who could have seen that coming? Well, besides me and everyone else who was "unreasonable"

Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2011 01:37 PM (Fw2Gg)

38 You mean they'll still blame us no matter what happens? I could have sworn the two reason to pass the Boehner plan were as follows: 1. We won't win the media war if we don't, 2. We will get our credit downgraded if we don't. We have always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 01:39 PM (AZGON)

39 It's time for another massive Tea Party rally in Washington. One to counter the anti-Tea Party shit, and two, to demand proper fiscal responsibility in response to the credit downgrade.

Posted by: publius(NotBreitbartPublius) at August 07, 2011 01:39 PM (VVB18)

40

The kids always blame daddy when they don't get what they want.

Always.

This time is no different.

Posted by: pendejo grande at August 07, 2011 01:40 PM (BQEkS)

41 Oh and WTF John McCain was defending the Tea Party on the Sunday shows? Does he need lithium?

Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2011 01:40 PM (Fw2Gg)

42 I mentioned I'm a member of the local Tea Party, and before I could say another word, he glared at me and said, "You and your Tea Party are the cause of the mess we're in.  Until we raise taxes on corporations and businesses, things will never get better."  I replied, "Do you see my husband standing over there?  He's a small business owner, who only in the past few months has been able to turn his company around and begin hiring again.  If you raise taxes on his business, he'll have to begin letter employees go."

The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM4

Don't get angry.  Just continue to argue the details.  It's unlikely the guy you're dealing with knows more about this than the average political junkie and if you call him on broad statements while presenting facts in return, you'll have him in pretty short order.

A simple response of "then dispute what I just said" would be the easiest way to go.  Two basic points: point out that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid made up about $650 billion of the federal budget in 97 and made up over $1.4 trillion in 2010.  At the same time, revenue that the government takes in increased from $1.495 to $2.217 trillion.  It's, obviously, not as though were collecting less taxes.  Spending has just gone up far more.

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 01:40 PM (tZyw2)

43 well....we SHOULD have been downgraded because the stupid deal was FLAWED......EXTREME enough for everyone?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 01:40 PM (eOXTH)

44 by the way......a 1" white binder that used to cost $2 is now $8.99!!!!!!!!! i spent $384 in school supplies for my 4 kids in gov't school....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 01:42 PM (eOXTH)

45 Great messaging, libtards. Whatever. Call it the tea party downgrade. I dont give a shit. If it makes it harder for you dipshits to spend my money, I'll sleep easier. And that is my mother fucking right. And I ain't going to feel bad about you having less.

Posted by: Cut them off at August 07, 2011 01:43 PM (STTZD)

46 Fuck you buddy, fuck you in the mouth. So now let me get this straight fucker.... The tea party is responsible for the stimulus, the huge deficits, even though only like 2 republicans voted for them. The tea party is responsible for Obamacare killing jobs, even though not a single Republican voted for it. And the tea party, which tried to reduce spending and passed Paul Ryans budget which would have curbed spending and put us on the path to sustainability but meanwhile gets demonized as wantign to kill medicare, is responsible for our debt getting downgraded? Go fucking screw.

Posted by: Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 07, 2011 01:44 PM (VidfH)

47 in years past i would donate stuff on the "teacher's wish list" this year i'm sending in a note saying "you wish!" ....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 01:44 PM (eOXTH)

48 Notice how Axlerod shifted the word "downgrade" from off the credit rating to the Tea Party.  Now "downgrade" will be associated with the Tea Party-not Obama.  Asswipe, however, will be associated with Axelrod.

Posted by: chillin the most at August 07, 2011 01:44 PM (6IV8T)

49 Let's see if I understand this. I mean, I am just a bible thumpin gun hugger, so bear with me.

The Tea Party (a minority in DC) wanted significant cuts in government spending and were not that keen on raising the debt ceiling.

The debt ceiling was raised without spending cuts, so we got downgraded.

Yet this is the fault of the minority Tea Party.Because they wanted spending cuts that didn't happen? Wishful thinking caused the downgrade? Is the correct? Because from where I'm sitting, the Tea Party really didn't get that kind of massive win from this.

/but maybe I am wrong. I mean, I am kind of dizzy and woozy from thinking about this.


Posted by: shibumi at August 07, 2011 01:45 PM (z63Tr)

50

Wish they'd get their stories straight--isn't the "Tea Party" just a handful of kooks here and there, rather than any meaningful movement-- a....nontroversy?

 

Posted by: stillwater at August 07, 2011 01:45 PM (0GpN4)

51 Also Thaddeus McCotter is blasting S&P for the downgrade I actually think that is a good position for a Republican. The S&P message makes it easy to blame on Republicans and I don't believe we should be taking joy in things that harm the country merely becaue we think they cut against the current Administration or Democrats in general.

Posted by: blaster at August 07, 2011 01:45 PM (Fw2Gg)

52 Because just Friday Ed Morrissey assured us on his show that We Changed The Debate and the debt deal prevented Republicans from being blamed for any crisis stemming from the deal.

I wonder, how many people that were willing to settle for yet another shit sandwich like the taste?

Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at August 07, 2011 01:45 PM (UF15p)

53 All of you Establishment types who wanted to claim the "compromise" a victory should have seen this coming.

They would have a lot harder time pushing this nonsense of a Tea Party downgrade if you had said it was a complete cave to the Left that it really was.

The left operates in an echo chamber.  The only punditry they close attention to is from themselves and when they didn't get any explicit promise to raise taxes out of the deal (which Obama had promised them for weeks) they weren't going to paint it as anything other than a cave-in by their side.

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 01:45 PM (tZyw2)

54 Screw debate. It's like arguing with a rabid dog. Just call them names and mock them.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 01:46 PM (KbEJl)

55 Time for the next Liberal Dictionary Update:

Compromise: offer no proposal, counter-proposal, and take absolutely no action whatsoever, other than to criticize the other side's proposal (particularly by hurling unfounded accusations of racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia, and any other demographically centered accusation you can think of)

Terrorist: person who represents the views of their constituency and adheres to the laws and obligations set out in the Constitution.

Patriot: person who ignores the laws and obligations set out in the Constitution, economic theory, basic math, reasonable judgment, and common sense in favor of borrowing more money that we cannot afford to pay off supporters and targeted demographic groups, all in the name of "fairness" and "civility"... while hurling unfounded accusations of racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia, and any other demographically centered accusation you can think of against "terrorists".

BTW- How's that "days, not weeks" think in Libya going?

Posted by: Damiano at August 07, 2011 01:46 PM (A2+pr)

56

The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM4

Gee, a New Yorker thinking they are superior to you.  How shocking and odd.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 01:47 PM (GULKT)

57 Someday, Obama will be remembered as the second coming of Hoover.

Posted by: Gushka still hasnt settled down at August 07, 2011 01:47 PM (QNeKQ)

58 Paraphrasing the late Danny Greene of Cleveland:

Any of the members of this so-called Mafia Democrat Party want to come after me, I'm right here. I'm not hard to find.

Posted by: sifty the Tearrorist at August 07, 2011 01:47 PM (ECjvn)

59 50 in years past i would donate stuff on the "teacher's wish list" this year i'm sending in a note saying "you wish!" ....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 05:44 PM (eOXTH)

Yeah, when our son attended public elementary school up north, every.single.year we were given a list of stuff to give to the classroom.

boxes of tissues

rolls of paper towels

wet wipes

etc., etc., etc.

This in addition to the hours spent volunteering and fundraising.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:47 PM (UOM48)

60

Axelrod. Sociopathic liar. It's like watching a tapeworm explain why it should remain in your intestine.

Posted by: Wm T Sherman at August 07, 2011 01:48 PM (C0Z3w)

61 They are scared shitless!

The complete dismantling of our way of life was underway and then, lo and behold, a choir of common sense Americans stood up and said...

Wait! What?!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 01:48 PM (piMMO)

62 Axlerod is a lying sack of shit? Who knew? It remains to be seen whether independents buy what the Democrats are selling. Stock up on supplies things are about to get ugly. Nancy Pelosi cooter ring ugly.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 01:48 PM (ZgvjV)

63 Axelrod. Sociopathic liar. It's like watching a tapeworm explain why it should remain in your intestine.

I laughed...while saying EEEEWW!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 01:49 PM (piMMO)

64 4 Just like Glenn Reynolds suggested, if revenue is what they want, let's give it to 'em. Revive the 20% gross excise tax on Hollywood.

Oh, but that would be censorship!

Posted by: Otis Criblecoblis at August 07, 2011 01:49 PM (fjoLg)

65 I bet retired New York Wall Street types have as much discomfort from a kick to the nutsack as anyone else.

Posted by: sifty the Tearrorist at August 07, 2011 01:50 PM (ECjvn)

66 Posted by: Damiano at August 07, 2011 05:46 PM (A2+pr)

I blame O'Reilly for the confusion. Have you watched his Pinheads and Patriots segment?

WTF?!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 01:50 PM (piMMO)

67 57 Screw debate. It's like arguing with a rabid dog. Just call them names and mock them.

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 05:46 PM (KbEJl)

Pretty sure I didn't get that treatment

Posted by: Zombie 'Ol Yeller at August 07, 2011 01:50 PM (FIDMq)

68 (the true meaning of the 14th amendment).

Who was the shithead who wrote the 14th anyway?  Stupid idiot had no familiarity with the English language.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 01:51 PM (73tyQ)

69 I remember a Family Ties episode where the little kid was starting school and the teacher told them all his supplies would be put into a community closet to be shared, and Alex P. Keaton said, "What is this, the Karl Marx Preschool"?

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 01:51 PM (KbEJl)

70
Anyway Jane, good on ya for telling the guy to his face that you're a Tea Partier. A lot of people duck and run.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 01:52 PM (PNrRc)

71
Tim Geithner changed his name to Tea Party?

Posted by: soothsayer at August 07, 2011 01:52 PM (LmrWy)

72 I bet retired New York Wall Street types have as much discomfort from a kick to the nutsack as anyone else.

But to dream....but, Jane's from Savannah, so the worst he's gonna get is a "Bless your heart."

It's the inflection that does the most damage.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 01:52 PM (piMMO)

73 Jane, we just started our boy in preschool. They gave us a whole page of shit to send to school with him.

I asked the teacher if I would have to patch the roof if it sprang a leak.

She just stared at me like a cow watching a rock.

Posted by: sifty the Tearrorist at August 07, 2011 01:53 PM (ECjvn)

74 I think its time for a sammitch and a little debbie oatmeal cream pie. Theres only so much DOOM! a person can take. Then you gotta get lunch

and when i say sammitch, i mean a good one with lots of Turkey and cheese and Tomatoes  and nothing else.  Not an Obama Sammitch, which tastes like ... well... you know.

Posted by: Gushka still hasnt settled down at August 07, 2011 01:53 PM (QNeKQ)

75 Doomwich.


Posted by: sifty the Tearrorist at August 07, 2011 01:54 PM (ECjvn)

76 75
Anyway Jane, good on ya for telling the guy to his face that you're a Tea Partier. A lot of people duck and run.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 05:52 PM (PNrRc)

I'm taking names.  We're surrounded here by the type.  They love to retire here and tell us how great things were up Nawth and what retards we are. Some of them are good people.  It pays to know who the raging libtards are, though.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:55 PM (UOM48)

77
...shield the impact of this horrible economy from unions, their voters, and their complicit corporate cronies.

/nods to Dave's alliteration skill

Posted by: soothsayer at August 07, 2011 01:55 PM (z96ra)

78 50 in years past i would donate stuff on the "teacher's wish list" this year i'm sending in a note saying "you wish!" ....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 05:44 PM (eOXTH)

Have the precious union buy that stuff.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 01:56 PM (73tyQ)

79 Posted by: Gushka still hasnt settled down at August 07, 2011 05:53 PM (QNeKQ)

Gushka, I posted the recipe for the 'mater pie I'm making for dinner in the morning open thread.  It's easy and good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 01:56 PM (UOM48)

80 The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

I hope you laughed at him, called him a fucking retard, and kicked him in the gonads.

/that may be the Glenfiddich speaking.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 01:56 PM (ro15Z)

81 Just more p[roof that to a doctrinaire liberal that ignorance is the spice of life.

Posted by: Doc at August 07, 2011 01:57 PM (qR9y8)

82 Fuck S&P....Fuck Moody's ...Fuck Fitch

These ratings agencies bear a huge responsilbility for the financial meltdown. Seriously, they should be shut down and the execs that were there in the years leading up to the collapse should be arrested

It wasn't incompetence on their part...it was deliberate malfeasance and corruption.

From the linked article..

"So by almost all accounts inside the beltway, a downgrade in the federal governmentÂ’s credit rating would be catastrophic. But a closer look at who issues these ratings, how they do it, and the real-world impact of these ratings tells a different story.

The first clue that these ratings might not be highly calibrated, serious indicators of creditworthiness can be found in the 2008 economic collapse. The financial products created by Wall Street that were full of toxic mortgage securities were all blessed with gold-star ratings as safe investments from the countryÂ’s three main credit ratings agencies, MoodyÂ’s, Fitch and Standard and PoorÂ’s.

These products were so awful as to destroy Lehman Brothers, threaten many other trading firms, and plunge the economy into recession, but the rating agencies consistently told investors they were safe. As William Greider has noted here, this essentially made the rating agencies “unindicted co-conspirators” in the collapse.

Were these agencies just bad at their jobs? Maybe, but Greider offers another theory: since the banks pay the rating agencies to examine their financial products, a harmful rating would persuade the banks to just shop elsewhere for a more favorable outcome. “This is an outrageous conflict of interest at the very heart of the financial system,” Greider writes

If you have not read Reckless Endangerment, I can't strongly recommend it enough to see how the Democrats at Fannie and Freddie, the Democrats at Treasury, the Democrats in Congress, and the Democrats on Wall St destroyed the economy to make themselves filthy rich, or for blind ideological reasons


Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 01:57 PM (AnTyA)

83 44 I mentioned I'm a member of the local Tea Party, and before I could say another word, he glared at me and said, "You and your Tea Party are the cause of the mess we're in.  Until we raise taxes on corporations and businesses, things will never get better."  I replied, "Do you see my husband standing over there?  He's a small business owner, who only in the past few months has been able to turn his company around and begin hiring again.  If you raise taxes on his business, he'll have to begin letter employees go."

The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM4

Don't get angry.  Just continue to argue the details.  It's unlikely the guy you're dealing with knows more about this than the average political junkie and if you call him on broad statements while presenting facts in return, you'll have him in pretty short order.

A simple response of "then dispute what I just said" would be the easiest way to go.  Two basic points: point out that Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid made up about $650 billion of the federal budget in 97 and made up over $1.4 trillion in 2010.  At the same time, revenue that the government takes in increased from $1.495 to $2.217 trillion.  It's, obviously, not as though were collecting less taxes.  Spending has just gone up far more.

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 05:40 PM (tZyw2)


Better yet, tell him something along the lines of "wow, you seem passionate about this.  You should attend our next TP meeting.  We'd like to hear your ideas."  Then, if he takes the bait, you might actually have a ghost of a chance of converting him.  I've seen it said that the first step of persuading someone to your side is first agreeing with them.  Flattering helps too.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 07, 2011 01:57 PM (bAySe)

84 Whatever. The Obma sycophants are arguing both that it's the Tea Party's fault and that the downgrade wasn't deserved because S&P got the numbers wrong. It'll fool nobody except the those who are already surgically attached to Obama's ass in a giant conga line.

It's like the movie coming out in October of 2012 that'll try to exploit the bin Laden raid. Nobody actually saw The Hurt Locker, and nobody will see the bin Laden/Obama movie.

But those who see the movie will be sickened, and it'll backfire the way all Obama's decisions backfire. Obama is giving Kathryn Bigelow and Mark Boal access to highly classified information, some of which will no doubt make it into the movie, thus blowing our operational methods.

The fact that Obama thinks a Hollywood movie will save him is evidence of how incompetent he is and how he can't mount an effective campaign.

Posted by: Llarry at August 07, 2011 01:58 PM (K2nZ3)

85 I should've known a Tearrorist would beat me to the nut-kicking fantasy.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 01:58 PM (ro15Z)

86 oh, someone at a tea party rally had a sign saying keep your govt hands off my Medicare, so that means TP was all against entitlement reform. I mean how many times was that anecdote trotted out by the left?

Posted by: jeanne at August 07, 2011 01:58 PM (6BX6q)

87

Didn't Obama first push for a "clean" debt increase? Meaning, $0 in debt reduction?

If this deal didn't reduce the debt enought fo S & P, what would the rating have been dropped to wit $0 debt reduction?  B? L?

Posted by: CJ at August 07, 2011 01:59 PM (9G+G5)

88 24 @5 My husband said if he'd been standing there he would have asked the guy, "If you really feel so passionate about raising revenues, why don't you just go ahead and write the government a check for half your accumulated wealth?" -- Since your conversation was at church, I wonder how much Captain Wall Street tithes per week/year?

Posted by: Doc at August 07, 2011 01:59 PM (qR9y8)

89

By the way, how long before we get a poll that says "xx% of Americans blame the Tea Party for downgrade"?  That's coming next.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 07, 2011 02:00 PM (bAySe)

90 These fools are setting themselves up for a big loss. Arguing for more spending, when we have a spending problem ruining out credit rating, and more taxes, when most of the public can't afford to pay anymore, isn't a winning strategy. Their doubling down on teh stoopehd and hoping the fucking waterboys in the media will keep the home team going.


Posted by: The Donkey Show at August 07, 2011 02:01 PM (ijjAe)

91 @5  Obviously, he was a janitor...

Posted by: Brock O'Bama at August 07, 2011 02:01 PM (/WZ6r)

92
O/T on my favorite topic:

Major oh noes coming for Obama. HuffPo is talking about Operation Fast and Furious. First they ran the AP's long article, now they're doing their own spinning. And Daily Kos picked it up and actually linked to the Sipsey Street Irregulars (by way of argument, but still).

In brief, they're saying it was merely a botched sting but the Odministration is making the mistake of covering up instead of coming clean. They say it could be a Cat 5 disaster if the Odministration fails to get out in front of it.

Let the buzz begin.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 02:02 PM (PNrRc)

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 02:03 PM (lmcnR)

94 Jen Rubin assured me that everything was OK now that the "extremists", who demand such hopelessly radical ideas as government living within its means, have been thwarted.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 02:04 PM (ro15Z)

95 Gold up 27.00 in less than a minute .

Posted by: Bill D. Cat at August 07, 2011 02:04 PM (npr0X)

96

By the way, by the way, why don't the Republicans remind everyone that the Bush tax cuts cut them for all income groups?  W. was good at that, always making a point that it was a broad based decrease of rates as a first point, then moving onto the the bit about small businesses paying at the individual rate.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 07, 2011 02:05 PM (bAySe)

97  Have you figured out who's going in the cattle cars, yet?

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 07, 2011 02:05 PM (E7Z1r)

98 36 Well, I will be "curious" to see if the repubs defend the tea party.  They claimed the tea party when it gave them the majority, so will the cowards defend us now?

I thought the "Repubs" were a bunch of Ruling Class Northeastern Establishment RINO Suckers of Cock™ who all needed to be primaried out of office.

Why does the Tea Party want or need its support?  I thought the goal was to defeat the RINO Establishment right along with the Democrats.

Weird.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at August 07, 2011 02:06 PM (RMQ41)

99 This shit is going to backfire. Count on it. There has been zero accountability from this administration for nearly three years now.

Posted by: Johnny at August 07, 2011 02:06 PM (iT/Iy)

100

They say it could be a Cat 5 disaster if the Odministration fails to get out in front of it.

Wouldn't that kind of disaster require a media that wasn't on their knees in full inhale mode?

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 02:06 PM (KbEJl)

101 You have to be retarded to believe a lying Chicago Democratic Party hack like Axelrod.  Jusy look at John F'n Kerry for proof.

Posted by: Peregrine Took, Tea Party Mafioso at August 07, 2011 02:07 PM (SzxHJ)

102 95
Dr. Mark Siegel on Fox News:  "Schools should teach self-esteem."

What?  This dweeb's a doctor?

Saw that also.  I thought this had been pretty thoroughly discredited by now--that emphasizing self esteem has actually been shown to lead to more bullying (for a few reasons, but, among them, by not making it clear enough to the kids they aren't more important than everybody else).

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 02:07 PM (tZyw2)

103 Re school supplies. I first learned about 'shared sacrifice' in kindergarten.

I can remember getting the list of stuff buy. And most of it had two of everything on it. When we came home I remember getting half of it together in my bookbag and the other half in a brown paper sack from the grocery store. I remember my Dad calling it 'Kleenex communism'. He told me that some kids don't have money to buy supplies. Rather than the school asking if any parents wanted to sponsor a child or drop off supplies anonymously, the school was forcing kids to bring in supplies for the classroom. What was passed off as 'sharing' was nothing more than redistribution.
 
'Kleenex communism'. That always stuck with me and it makes me laugh when I think about it to this day.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 02:09 PM (lmcnR)

104 Preciously. Apparently they have more than enough in some schools.

Wait.

Is she actually claiming that some dumbass ordered a type of tape that can only be used with a specific $70 tape dispenser? What is their excuse for the glue? We don't use glue anymore but ordered it out of a sense of nostalgia?

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:10 PM (piMMO)

105 Better yet, tell him something along the lines of "wow, you seem passionate about this.  You should attend our next TP meeting

Better yet, kick him in the teeth and continue kicking his ass while he's on the ground

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 02:10 PM (AnTyA)

106 Dr. Mark Siegel on Fox News:  "Schools should teach self-esteem."

What?  This dweeb's a doctor?

Saw that also.  I thought this had been pretty thoroughly discredited by now--that emphasizing self esteem has actually been shown to lead to more bullying (for a few reasons, but, among them, by not making it clear enough to the kids they aren't more important than everybody else).

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 06:07 PM (tZyw2)


Ask the American Medical Association what they think about guns, too, while you're at it ... it's *astounding* the breadth of expertise these guys have  /sarc   /yak

Posted by: Steck at August 07, 2011 02:11 PM (RL7U1)

107 You call that a mustache David Assholerod? I bet it's made up of stray hairs gathered in the bus station men's room.

Posted by: John Bolton at August 07, 2011 02:11 PM (ZgvjV)

108 i used to write our last name on every donated "shared" item.....including the individual pencils, crayons and markers....i'm sure it irritated the teachers.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 02:11 PM (eOXTH)

109 Jen Rubin assured me that everything was OK now that the "extremists", who demand such hopelessly radical ideas as government living within its means, have been thwarted. John Podhoretz heartily agrees.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:12 PM (AZGON)

110 What is their excuse for the glue? We don't use glue anymore but ordered it out of a sense of nostalgia?


Teacher wants free glue to sniff.

Posted by: NC Ref at August 07, 2011 02:12 PM (/izg2)

111 Major oh noes coming for Obama. HuffPo is talking about Operation Fast and Furious.

This is the positive side of media bias. They bury stories but some stories just don't stay dead.  So rather than letting the story burn out or giving it the taint of "old news" it keeps threatening to simmer up and explode.

As it simmers, the Right ends up talking about it, so when people say, "Have you heard about F&F?" people like us have vast amounts of information at our fingertips.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 02:12 PM (73tyQ)

112 WORD!

Posted by: journolist at August 07, 2011 02:12 PM (Fb9Q0)

113 I just had a flashback.

Was it Baier who, in the last day or two, when on the attack about taxing the 51% of people who aren't paying anything?

I remember having a WHOA! moment, but then drifted off.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:12 PM (piMMO)

114 This is like blaming the hurricane on the people who boarded-up their homes.

Posted by: CMU VET at August 07, 2011 02:13 PM (ckP50)

115 That Kleenex communism shit pissed me off so badly last year when my oldest son entered Kindergarten.  I bought him nice, expensive school supplies and it was all redistributed to everyone else in the class room.Excuse me?

 That was my first clue that the school was not a good fit. We now homeschool.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 02:13 PM (HsfLZ)

116 I know what my 'betters' and the people who do politics for a living think. Fucking A, it's impossible to ignore them. They are fucking everywhere, from juice boxers to Juan Williams to jerk offs  Noonan, Will, Brooks and Krautchair. Fuck them and the rest of the leg tinglers and chicken chokers.
I intend to enjoy the next 16 months, I'm not going to be around for the next blowout 30 years from now. Any fucking retard can smell the fear on these butt wipes. Did you read that pathetic article from Jarrett? Look at Axeldouche. Just look at him. He can barely swallow his own bullshit. What a fucking ass-whipping these pretenders from Chicago will receive. 
It will be historic
It will be great

Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 07, 2011 02:14 PM (le5qc)

117

Saw that also.  I thought this had been pretty thoroughly discredited by now--that emphasizing self esteem has actually been shown to lead to more bullying (for a few reasons, but, among them, by not making it clear enough to the kids they aren't more important than everybody else).

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 06:07 PM (tZyw2)

Its because they are focused solely on self esteem, instead of focusing on things that can give self esteem.  So they aren't talking about things a kid is good at like art or music or science.  Instead its just that they should have self esteem without it tied to anything.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 02:15 PM (GULKT)

118 Ohhh My, the fear is ripe with these Dems and their various cheerleaders.  Their desperation is readily apparent.

Posted by: USNA1985 at August 07, 2011 02:16 PM (U3TDy)

119 "Terrorism" is the new "racism."

What'll be used when "terrorism" is burned out? That has to be worrying the Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, and the MFM (BIRM).

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2011 02:16 PM (r4t7/)

120 114 i used to write our last name on every donated "shared" item.....including the individual pencils, crayons and markers....i'm sure it irritated the teachers.....

OMG.  We must have been separated at birth.  I used to do the Same.Damned.Thing.  I know it pissed the teachers off.

Upside of private school (aside from getting an actual education and being free of liberal indoctrination), we didn't have to supply the class with supplies.

The only thing we had to supply was volunteerism and fundraising.  Our teachers weren't as well-paid as public school, union teachers, but they got big tuition breaks for their own kids PLUS....

....our school put up with ZERO bad behavior.  No political correctness, either.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:18 PM (UOM48)

121 Try this one out on liberals. Ask them how many years the GOP controlled the Senate under Bush. I guarantee 100 percent of them will get it wrong. The reflexive libtard will automatically say "8! Duh, idiot!" and the slightly less touched will come closer to the right answer with 6.

The answer is 4 years out of 8. After Jeffords defected in 2001, the Senate flipped to 51-49 Dims. In 2002, it flipped back to 51-49 R's, and increased to 56-44 in 2004. In other words, nothing Bush passed happened without Dim votes, and the Dimocrap minority was large enough to filibuster and block anything it wanted, which it did time after time. Unlike Obama, who got everything he wanted with entirely Dim votes and a 60-vote majority.

Tell the liberal that if s/he doesn't even know who ran Congress, they must not know much else about politics and their opinions are less useful than a steaming pile of monkey shit.

Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 02:18 PM (1h53u)

122 It's my belief that harping on and emphasizing self esteem produces very compliant, lethargic and uninspired students who will believe they have made great strides, when in fact they are average and prone to be underachievers.

I watched the first season of The Real Housewives of NJ and one of the teens was acting up. The stepfather, without the mother's consent, went out and bought a majorly jacked up Jeep Grand Cherokee for her. It was NOT the "basic" model.

It was to give her more "confidence".

I was literally screaming mad at the television. What the hell is wrong with parents today? $40k birthday parties. Sending their kids over-seas for Spring break.

We are headed for a major crisis with regard to the self-worth and self-control of this next generation.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:18 PM (piMMO)

123 This is like blaming Paul Revere for the British invasion.

Christie 2012! YAY!!!

Posted by: Ann Coulter's 4 O'clock Shadow at August 07, 2011 02:19 PM (EL+OC)

124 133 This is like blaming Paul Revere for the British invasion.

Ring those bells!

Posted by: Sarah Palin (TM) at August 07, 2011 02:20 PM (RMQ41)

125 Yep, as a fellow moron or two noted above: The first prints are in: ES down 31, DJIA down 274, and gold, natural, welcomes our new centrally planned overlords by hitting an all time high of $1692. Foolish me, thinking that the yellow juicy was overpriced at $1450.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:20 PM (AZGON)

126 I see in the sidebar our Potus went golfing this weekend.  31 dead soldiers and the economy downgraded and this c**ksucker goes golfing.  Bush's ass would have been in emergency session with his advisors and on the phone with troops and their families.  I hate this POS and the next lib assholle that tries to defend him to me is going to have shit rain down on him so bad he won't open his piehole to me ever again.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 02:20 PM (KdI6b)

127 Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 06:20 PM (KdI6b)


*standing ovation*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:22 PM (UOM48)

128

I couldn't listen past the "tea party downgrade" part.  My head was in danger of exploding.  What a slimy, lying, dirtbag this guy is.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2011 02:22 PM (v+QvA)

129 I'm pretty sure that when I went to school the only "kleenex communism" we actually had was kleenexes.  Everything else was individual and not shared by everyone.  I don't know if its still like that.  But at least it was that way for me.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 02:24 PM (GULKT)

130 Jimmuy: "And, 'How does spending more money give us better credit?'"

I have but one word for that silly question: "Are you out of your mind?"

Everyone knows the more you spend, the more money you have. We're the richest country on Earth!

Posted by: Scranton's Missing Idiot at August 07, 2011 02:24 PM (r4t7/)

131 31 dead soldiers and the economy downgraded and this c**ksucker goes golfing. Let's see. Bush gave up golf at some point during his stint because it seemed disrespectful. I think it is entirely fair to say, given how much Dick Soetero and his friends made hay out of Bush's golfing, that Dick himself has no respect for soldiers, or anyone else. Since the left made golf the benchmark for measuring a President's sympathies, this half-man has none, and frankly detests this nation.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:25 PM (AZGON)

132 Several years ago  my county was talking about instituting a school uniform policy in order to improve discipline and curb bullying. I did a paper about it for school and started out thinking, okay....maybe it will have some impact. By the time I did my research and applied some common sense to the concept, the paper I turned in was very, very different.

The reason that private schools have fewer disciplinary problems is NOT because the students wear uniforms, assholes. It is because they are held accountable. It is because their parents are forking over big money every month for their education. As for the bullying...

What? they think that if one student isn't wearing designer duds and the other isn't wearing Kmart there won't be self-esteem issues? They think that they will all just blend into one big pool of "we" versus "I"?

Pathetic fucking logic.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:25 PM (piMMO)

133 BTW, they are all on message. Debbie Wasserman-Woof was said via Twitter the TP 'tyrants' were responsible for the downgrade as they 'blocked the big deal'.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 02:26 PM (bawX2)

134
 No longer interested in trying to interact with the left. Losing battle. We have a lefty in our family--through marriage--and he's learned to keep his fat yap shut when I'm around. Being called an asshole liar in front of 20 people will do that. You will NEVER change the mind or viewpoint of a person who inhabits a fictional reality. Simply cant be done.
 
  What works is reducing them to impotence, plus insuring they never get to a position again that can influence events. Difficult, but doable.

 

Posted by: irongrampa at August 07, 2011 02:28 PM (ud5dN)

135 I see in the sidebar our Potus went golfing this weekend.  31 dead soldiers and the economy downgraded and this c**ksucker goes golfing.  Bush's ass would have been in emergency session with his advisors and on the phone with troops and their families.  I hate this POS and the next lib assholle that tries to defend him to me is going to have shit rain down on him so bad he won't open his piehole to me ever again.



I rained that shit storm down last night after a few beers and some Maker's out at the bar with some liberal chick I wouldn't have minded boning. I went off for a good 10-minute rant about how Obama was a piece of shit and he was getting our best and brightest killed just to make himself look tough in a war he has no intention of winning. I pointed out the difference between Bush fighting to win, and the difference between sacrifice in the name of victory and a waste in the name of political expedience. Even got choked up for a moment. The date ended soon after.

Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 02:28 PM (1h53u)

136 I don't know if its still like that.

Nope! Now it is everything. Literally everything. Right down to the pencils.  Remember how cool it was to have snazzy Lisa Frank folder as a kid? Well, those days are over. Now parents are forced to buy standard yellow/green/red folders, and they're redistributed to every kid in the class.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 02:28 PM (HsfLZ)

137 141 I'm pretty sure that when I went to school the only "kleenex communism" we actually had was kleenexes.  Everything else was individual and not shared by everyone.  I don't know if its still like that.  But at least it was that way for me.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 06:24 PM (GULKT)

When our kid was in public school (elementary) from '95 thru 2000, we literally had to supply the classrooms with everything except paper and pencils/crayons.  And we were taxed out the ass in Chicagoland, the teachers were tenured (including one who left campus every day to drink vodka in her mini-van), and our son got a crappy edumacation.


Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:28 PM (UOM48)

138 The teacher is basically begging to not have to reach into his/her own pocket to pay for children's nose wiping. That couple dollar box of Kleenex is cheaper then taking a day off, right?

I'm not so sure that the complaints about buying the tissues is the issue. It's that what you purchase for your own child ends up in the backpacks of all the other kids.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:29 PM (piMMO)

139
"Tea Party downgrade": What the fuck ever happened to "The buck stops here"?

Posted by: Brown Line at August 07, 2011 02:30 PM (DeHxA)

140

How dare the citizens participate in their participatory government!?

It's enough to ruin my whole afternoon on the SS Catsup.

Posted by: John 'KleverHans' Kerry at August 07, 2011 02:30 PM (u+WLb)

141 They are all out of love for Obama, faith in government is being ripped apart by reality, all the radical left has now is hate for us.

Posted by: Shiggz at August 07, 2011 02:31 PM (v8Pb8)

142 The Masters of the Universe are losing their ability to manipulate the world to their liking, they're losing their grip on the world, and their spin is becoming white noise that goes in one ear and out the other.

What's left but to scream about the barbarians at the gate.

Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 02:32 PM (Y+DPZ)

143 In short it's the fault of the Tea Party, all this malaise.

Prediction:  It aint gonna sell. 

Barry and company are going down next fall.

Posted by: nostradamus' 401k at August 07, 2011 02:32 PM (GTbGH)

144 The reason that private schools have fewer disciplinary problems is NOT because the students wear uniforms, assholes. It is because they are held accountable. It is because their parents are forking over big money every month for their education.

this this this

If Muffy or Christophe mouth off, bully or are just a pain-in-the-ass, after a warning and serious sit-down with the parents and it continues?  They're out.

And the parents are out of the tuition. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:33 PM (UOM48)

145
Wouldn't that kind of disaster require a media that wasn't on their knees in full inhale mode? Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 06:06 PM

As I said, the story's at HuffPo. That means it's spreading. Also, from the our-tickle there:

Although Fast and Furious hasn't garnered much attention so far in the mainstream press, it's become the talk of the gun rights community.

"Attention" is coming.

And AmishDude, you got it about the unexpected benefits of the MSM ostrich act. Lefties are gonna be blindsided by this one. It'll be fun when they burst into full denial like they did in the Weiner case and then have to wither in confusion, demoralization, etc.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 02:33 PM (PNrRc)

146

Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 06:28 PM (1h53u)

 

This is why you end all tirades with 'But first, you will blow me!'. 

Just in case she finds your passionate stance a turn on.

 

Posted by: Mel Gibson at August 07, 2011 02:33 PM (u+WLb)

147 Help us, Infamous Tax-Dodger John Kerry! You're our only hope!

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 02:34 PM (ro15Z)

148 Wow, Axlerod and Kerry - The democratic monkey B team comes out flinging poo. Who's next? Screamin' Howard Dean.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 02:34 PM (ZgvjV)

149 All of these attacks on the "tea party" are nothing more than classic deflection. They know that an honest press would be handing them their asses on a stick.

So they come up with this shit to give the press something to rant about.

And guess what.

Posted by: Vic at August 07, 2011 02:34 PM (M9Ie6)

150 It's no longer about fixing what's wrong if you have any grip on reality, it's about escaping blame and holding onto the wealth, privilege, and power

They still have the circuses, they're running out of bread

Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 02:34 PM (Y+DPZ)

151 What the fuck ever happened to "The buck stops here"? Wait. "Buck?" Like a big ten-point stag? The kind you shoot with a deer rifle? Racist assassination fantasy!!!

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:35 PM (AZGON)

152

Has anyone checked DOW futures, lately?

 Your public school woes are the least of your worries...

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 07, 2011 02:35 PM (E7Z1r)

153 "The meme seems to be that the people who were trying to slow the unsustainable rate of spending are somehow responsible for the rating agencies noticing that the rate of spending is unsustainable."


-Saw this somewhere, good but we need to shorten and simplify then repeat it.

Posted by: Shiggz at August 07, 2011 02:35 PM (v8Pb8)

154

 The date ended soon after.

Way to go.  I hope you threw a twenty on the bar and told her to take a cab home.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 02:36 PM (KdI6b)

155

I hate this POS and the next lib assholle that tries to defend him to me is going to have shit rain down on him so bad he won't open his piehole to me ever again.

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 06:20 PM (KdI6b)

Maybe I'm getting numb but Obama could have a family picnic in Arlington and it wouldn't really bother me.

The guy has already demonstrated that he cares nothing for this country, the people who defend her or its founding documents.

He's a nothing to me. Eventually we will get past his traitorous ass and move on but I can't stroke out over this shit anymore. My BP is already 120 over 190.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 02:36 PM (cCmIU)

156 From the sidebar piece linky to HA "Obama is Too Good For Us" from Daily Beast. 

This is the type of cretin we're up against in 2012.  A commenter from the Beast article:

No one wants to 'cuddle' Obama. He enjoyed his childhood, and never played victim. 
I can only speak for myself: I like Obama because he best represents to me the direction the US should be heading in a globalized world. 
Obama is a pragmatic leader who thinks before acting- he doesn't 'go with with his gut' like W.Bush did with predictable results (think: Harriet Maier). 
He's a true moderate without the religious overtones the Right's faith fanatics share. 
I also want Obama to appoint the next couple SCOTUS justices, which would rescue the high court from it's extreme rightwing bend. 
 
Man's not perfect, but I never said he was. 
It also helps that I am not embarrassed by him when he speaks or when I leave the country- quite the contrary.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:36 PM (UOM48)

157
Bush gave up golf at some point during his stint because it seemed disrespectful.

He gave it up when the first casualties were reported, out of deference to the feelings of their loved ones. This decision prompted Keith Olbermann's first historic Special Comment, in which he vomited ridicule all over Bush.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 02:37 PM (PNrRc)

158 As I said, the story's at HuffPo. That means it's spreading. Also, from the our-tickle there:

I checked Huffpoo. I didn't see it

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 02:37 PM (AnTyA)

159 As I commented at Stacy McCain's joint just the other day:

In the 1950's it was, "Who Lost China?"

In the 2010's it's, "Who Lost The AAA Rating?"

Let's start calling Geithner and company, perhaps even Obama, too, the "AAA Hands."

Posted by: K~Bob at August 07, 2011 02:37 PM (RgjFQ)

160 Parents would send their kids in sneezing three times a minute, their noses bright red, because they couldn't afford to take the day off and stay home with snowflake.


Yet another reason we homeschool. My 3 month old ended up in the hospital when my oldest son brought home the croup. Parents sent their sick kids to school all the time, and the school actively encourages that shit in order to boost their attendance numbers. 

During the 1 semester he was in school, my son was probably healthy a total of two weeks. I spent hundreds of dollars at the doctor, and literally thousands on lab work.  In the end, his doctor straight up said that the problem was that other parents were sending their kids to school sick and there was nothing that we could do, he'd just have to build up an immunity to as much as possible.

*scream*


Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 02:37 PM (HsfLZ)

161

This is why you end all tirades with 'But first, you will blow me!'. 

Just in case she finds your passionate stance a turn on.


I have come across liberal wimmins like this. Fucking a conservative is the equivalent of bringing the greasy biker "bad boy" home to meet daddy. They get off on it like it's jungle fever.

Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 02:38 PM (1h53u)

162 The problem isn't that the emperor has no clothes. It's that the tea party and S&P had the temerity to point it out.

Posted by: Andy at August 07, 2011 02:38 PM (veZ9n)

163 The problem isn't that the emperor has no clothes. It's that the tea party and S&P had the temerity to point it out. I'm going long on welding goggles.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:39 PM (AZGON)

164 This will not shock anyone.

Chris Matthews went full retard on his show the other day --

MATTHEWS: — everybody, all the big market places, clothing stores, everything would be booming down there. It’s not going to happen. But it would be job creation! If Boeing doubled its contract with Air Force planes, that would be great news in Seattle and some other areas where they’re operating. In Houston, it’s space. In the southwest of Virginia, it’s Bobby Byrd! Jack Murtha in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Why do people have this disconnect? They know that the government creates jobs. Every time in our life, we know that WWII saved us economically. All our experience locally and historically is the government creates jobs. And then you hear Eric Cantor, with this new cant of his, this religious notion of some kind, that somehow this belief in small business means that government shouldn’t do anything.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 02:39 PM (bawX2)

165 It also helps that I am not embarrassed by him when he speaks

This douchenozzle has obviously never actually heard the Child-Emperor speak.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 02:39 PM (ro15Z)

166 Wait. "Buck?" Like a big ten-point stag? The kind you shoot with a deer rifle?

No, those are 18-point bucks.  At least, all the ones I "caught" were.

Posted by: John "the hunter" Kerry, who by the way served in Vietnam at August 07, 2011 02:40 PM (RgjFQ)

167

Barack Obama is our Akhenaten. 

 It will take some time, but everything with his name or visage on it will be destroyed or forgotten by future generations.

Posted by: garrett at August 07, 2011 02:40 PM (u+WLb)

168 181 It also helps that I am not embarrassed by him when he speaks

This douchenozzle has obviously never actually heard the Child-Emperor speak.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 06:39 PM (ro15Z)


Yeah, plus libs are no longer "embarrassed" to be Americans when they travel.  That pisses my husband off the most at his libtard siblings, who've always said that the rest of the world (Europe, in particular) are sooooo much more sophisticated and enlightened. 

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:41 PM (UOM48)

169 Re the sick germy kids...

This is one of my favorite Bernie Mac shows ever. Bernie never, ever gets sick, but now he has kids to watch over. The fun begins at around the 1:50 mark.

Also note the asshole teacher taking liberties.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (piMMO)

170 Look.  Everybody know knows that Obama is an AA+sshole.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (73tyQ)

171 Since your conversation was at church, I wonder how much Captain Wall Street tithes per week/year?

Posted by: Doc at August 07, 2011 05:59 PM (qR9y

Considering libs' track record on charitable giving in general, my guess would be pretty far south of ten percent. 

Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (v+QvA)

172 I love the smell of liberal desperation on Sunday morning talk shows.

Posted by: mpfs TPT at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (3TjSM)

173 Re the sick germy kids...

This is one of my favorite Bernie Mac shows ever. Bernie never, ever gets sick, but now he has kids to watch over. The fun begins at around the 1:50 mark.

Also note the asshole teacher taking liberties.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (piMMO)

174 It also helps that I am not embarrassed by him when he speaks This is because "uh" and "um" are easy, digestible words, and some of Dick Soetero's favorites. If he used big words with complex syntax, it might embarrass his supporters in the unlikely event that, one, Dick could put such words together, and two, that his supporters could be expected to understand them.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (AZGON)

175 If you're not putting names on stuff they're gonna disappear and you're going to have to replace it.


I don't think you understand. It's not a matter of our school supplies just happening to end up in another kid's backpack. It's actively redistributed by the teachers.  "All" the parents buy identical school supplies at the beginning of the year. The teacher collects everything, and then redistributes it to everyone else.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 02:42 PM (HsfLZ)

176 Look. Everybody know knows that Obama is an AA+sshole. B+ullshit.

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:43 PM (AZGON)

177 111Better yet, tell him something along the lines of "wow, you seem passionate about this. You should attend our next TP meeting

Better yet, kick him in the teeth and continue kicking his ass while he's on the ground

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 06:10 PM (AnTyA)

This. There simply exists no common ground with these pricks and it is, therefore, an exercise in futility attempting to find it.

Posted by: Herr Blücher at August 07, 2011 02:43 PM (2HyAo)

178 If the Left and RINO's hate theTea Party now, wait till after the next election. 

Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 02:43 PM (KdI6b)

179 @ 169 The Democrats are saying the boy who points out the emperor has no clothes is responsible for being royally flashed. I always knew Dems were closet pedophiles. I deem it factual so I can't be uncivil.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 02:44 PM (ZgvjV)

180 Chris Matthews went full retard on his show the other day --

All our experience locally and historically is the government creates jobs. And then you hear Eric Cantor, with this new cant of his, this religious notion of some kind, that somehow this belief in small business means that government shouldnÂ’t do anything.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 06:39 PM

He's in the DT stages of alcholism now, isn't he

Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 02:44 PM (Y+DPZ)

181

Considering libs' track record on charitable giving in general, my guess would be pretty far south of ten percent. 

Posted by: Insomniac at August 07, 2011 06:42 PM (v+QvA)

In my experience, they pass the plate along with their nose in the air.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 02:44 PM (cCmIU)

182 This is what the libs wish for our military:

AMSTERDAM (AP) — Embracing a policy of "Do Tell," the Dutch military joined Amsterdam's annual Gay Pride parade for the first time, with uniformed men and women saluting the crowds from a boat chugging through a historic city canal.

A balloon-festooned barge bearing the standards of the service branches and sponsored by the Defense Ministry sailed among about 80 other floats, with music blaring from most of them and dancers dressed in flamboyant costumes — or very little at all.

The parade, watched by hundreds of thousands of spectators lining the Prinsengracht canal, capped a weeklong festival of around 300 parties and events. It included the popular "Drag Queen Olympics" with contests like the stiletto race and the long-distance handbag toss.

U.S. and British activists sailed with Dutch generals and other senior officers — some gay and others showing solidarity — among some 80 military and ministry civilian personnel.



Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 02:44 PM (UOM48)

183 Democrats are indescribably vile.

Posted by: real joe at August 07, 2011 02:45 PM (w7Lv+)

184 The Democrats are saying the boy who points out the emperor has no clothes is responsible for being royally flashed.

Heh.

Posted by: AmishDude at August 07, 2011 02:45 PM (73tyQ)

185 I have come across liberal wimmins like this. Fucking a conservative is the equivalent of bringing the greasy biker "bad boy" home to meet daddy. They get off on it like it's jungle fever. Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 06:38 PM (1h53u) I commented in the ONT last night about a similar experience I had at dinner with a lib chick who considered Bill Maher's program "news", which was the highlight of a laundry list of liberal talking points. I asked for the check so fast after she said that and she never figured out why. I'm pretty sure the date could've degenerated into what you are describing here (as some have in the past - the hallmark of web dating IMO), but I was beyond any boning interest by that point.

Posted by: Doc at August 07, 2011 02:45 PM (qR9y8)

186 Doomwich.

The Doomwich Horror!

Posted by: Not Drinking or Tearrorizing Nearly Enough at August 07, 2011 02:46 PM (JEvSn)

187

Posted by: Herr Blücher at August 07, 2011 06:43 PM (2HyAo)

 

Neeeiiiigh!

 

Posted by: John Kerry at August 07, 2011 02:46 PM (u+WLb)

188 He's in the DT stages of alcholism now, isn't he

Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 06:44 PM (Y+DPZ)

I'm working on him.

Posted by: Cirrhosis at August 07, 2011 02:46 PM (73tyQ)

189 @115---yeah, Fish, we are near the same age, and through your posts I see our military service was close. I also think we shared the same shitstorm from the left for years after the war.

  You have my utmost respect for your service, sir.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 07, 2011 02:47 PM (ud5dN)

190 If Muffy or Christophe mouth off,...

Muffy and Christophe!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:47 PM (piMMO)

191 And Axelrod and Kerry can burn in hell. I didn't have to watch those videos to know that.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 02:47 PM (cCmIU)

192 Way to go. I hope you threw a twenty on the bar and told her to take a cab home. Fuck that noise, let her get her own god-damned ride home. Women's lib, and all that. If she can afford to drink, she can afford transport.

Posted by: cheshirecat at August 07, 2011 02:48 PM (Tbrdh)

193 progressoverpeace: "...un-Constitutionally screaming about the US defaulting over and over and over."

The MFM and even FOXNews were doing this ceaselessly. Every debt story was introduced as "default" when there was no fucking way that would happen. The fearmongering to draw eyeballs and/or prep the battlefield narrative has been quite the enterprise.

And now I find myself watching FOX less and less. I wonder if maybe, possibly, there's a correlation?

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2011 02:48 PM (r4t7/)

194 Doomwich.

The Doomwich Horror!


Hmmm.

Chocolate covered donuts used as bread. Peanut butter and coffee ice cream for the filling. Whipped cream and sprinkles as condiments.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 02:48 PM (piMMO)

195 From the sidebar piece linky to HA "Obama is Too Good For Us" from Daily Beast. 

This is the type of cretin we're up against in 2012.  A commenter from the Beast article:


One thing to keep in mind--The guy who wrote that, Charles Fried, already bailed on us to vote for Obama in '08.  Like every other Republican who flipped on every single principle they held in '08 to vote for the guy just because of his background--I couldn't care less about his opinion.

This is as much a case of Fried covering his own a** as it is a defense of Obama.

Posted by: AD at August 07, 2011 02:49 PM (tZyw2)

196 blaster: "Oh and WTF John McCain was defending the Tea Party on the Sunday shows?"

Seriously? Well, I think you've spotted the most shameless politician in D.C. Hobbits will not be amused for the self-serving pander and CYA.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2011 02:52 PM (r4t7/)

197 Thank God my parents sent me to private school where we had to earn our grades and learned how to compete to be the best.

Posted by: mpfs TPT at August 07, 2011 02:52 PM (3TjSM)

198 Sounds like public school. Preparation for good little Comrades. Where I was, parents could and did label. I would have done more...I would have demanded recompense from any teacher "distributing" MY child's personal supplies.

Posted by: cheshirecat at August 07, 2011 02:53 PM (Tbrdh)

199 A very nice summary at 202. Which means I agree. Don't forget these rating fuckers are all Progs too.

Posted by: the Charlie Daniels of the torque wrench at August 07, 2011 02:53 PM (le5qc)

200 I'm sending my kids to school with nothing from the school list. They can use what everyone else provides. Consider it a lesson for everyone on why communism fails.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 02:54 PM (ZgvjV)

201

So let me get this straight. It's "terrorism" to not want taxes jacked up so the gov. goes on a ridiculous ending spree like a hooker with a credit card. What do the Dims think of 9/11 then, a "gross cultural misunderstanding?"

Posted by: Cheeseheadette at August 07, 2011 02:54 PM (6ljyH)

202 I'm sending my kids to school with nothing from the school list. They can use what everyone else provides. Consider it a lesson for everyone on why communism fails. Perfect, and if we could get all the other parents to do the same...

Posted by: cheshirecat at August 07, 2011 02:55 PM (Tbrdh)

203 Doomwich. The Doomwich Horror! ...From what black wells of Keynesian fear or feeling, from what unplumbed gulfs of extra-quantitative easing or obscure, long-latent insolvency, were those half-articulate thunder-croakings drawn? Presently they began to gather renewed force and coherence as they grew in stark, utter, ultimate frenzy. 'Eh-y-ya-ya-yahaah - e'yayayaaaa... ngh'aaaaa... ngh'aaa... h'yuh... h'yuh... HELP! HELP! ...ff - ff - ff - FATHER! FATHER! CLOWARD-PIVEN!...' But that was all. The pallid group in the road, still reeling at the indisputably English syllables that had poured thickly and thunderously down from the frantic vacancy beside that shocking styrofoam columned-stage, were never to hear such syllables again. A single lightning bolt shot from the purple zenith to the campaign stump, and a great tidal wave of viewless force and indescribable stench swept down from the White House to all the countryside. Trees, grass, and the Press Pool were whipped into a fury; and the frightened crowd at the Capitol's base, weakened by the lethal foetor that seemed about to asphyxiate them, were almost hurled off their feet. Lobbyists howled from the distance, green jobs and patronage wilted to a curious, sickly yellow-grey, and over field and forest were scattered the bodies of dead astroturfers. --The Doomwich Horror, by H. P. Lovecraft

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 02:56 PM (AZGON)

204 Fuck these fuckers.  I would like to see all of these inside the beltway maggots drawn and quartered when the SHTF. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 07, 2011 02:56 PM (jucos)

205 People who think things can keep going more-or-less the same way need to understand this: Unsustainable means it can not be sustained That is, it's not due to a lack of will power that future entitlements are a fantasy. It's not that taxes aren't high enough. THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY - PERIOD

Posted by: Comrade Arthur at August 07, 2011 02:58 PM (AEA92)

206 I believe, without question, that you are a dangerous asshole.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 07, 2011 02:59 PM (c6XLj)

207 There's another public school practice that I had had enough enough by the time my daughter was in 8th grade.

Fundraisers. I don't mean that I mind the fundraisers themselves, in fact, folks at work really loved the NY cheesecakes that were shipped in dry-ice. They were yummy and folks ordered them in advance.

The problem I had was with picking up my daughter at school and finding her standing on the curb with four big boxes of candy to sell. She would claim that I would sell it and they would load her up. Of course, if you don't sell it all, you still have to pay for it.

The last time they tried to do it I marched into the school and told them that by giving several hundred dollars worth of merchandise to my daughter, they had entered into an unenforceable contract with a 14 year old and that, if they did it again, I would donate the candy to Ronald McDonald house and dare them to come after me for it.

No more candy problems, but then the teacher took an attitude with my daughter.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:00 PM (piMMO)

208 I'm sending my kids to school with nothing from the school list. They can use what everyone else provides. Consider it a lesson for everyone on why communism fails.

Perfect. Of course, be prepared for endless notes home and perhaps a "friendly" visit from school officials.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 03:00 PM (HsfLZ)

209 Zerohedge reports: Geithner was on NBC and when discussing the massively overdue S&P downgrade of US debt, shared the following pearl of wisdom: "S&P decision to cut U.S. credit rating shows stunning lack of knowledge about basic U.S. fiscal budget math."

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 03:00 PM (AZGON)

210 I believe you deserve an upgrade to AAAAhole.

Posted by: ParisParamus at August 07, 2011 03:00 PM (c6XLj)

211 He's in the DT stages of alcholism now, isn't he Chris Matthews IS Ray Milland in the dark remake of... Lost Weekend

Posted by: George Orwell at August 07, 2011 03:02 PM (AZGON)

212 Every time I get irritated with the catholic schools I hear stories from the public ones and I remember to be grateful.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:03 PM (TKXCl)

213 Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM4

That's the problem with being Christian! You can't be sure who the idiot liberals are.

I don't have that problem: I'm Jewish and I know that everyone around me in synagogue is an idiot liberal. It makes it so much easier and calm!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 07, 2011 03:03 PM (LH6ir)

214 THERE'S NOT ENOUGH MONEY - PERIOD

We don't give a shit.
Posted by: 52%ers

Actually some of us can't read this --- what does it say?

Posted by: 52% - Probably ATL teachers that hold 'cheating parties' at August 07, 2011 03:04 PM (bawX2)

215 "S&P decision to cut U.S. credit rating shows stunning lack of knowledge about basic U.S. fiscal budget math." He's right!! We make the math. We print the bills. Problem solved!

Posted by: Alan Greenspan at August 07, 2011 03:04 PM (qR9y8)

216 JF'n Kerry in the senate for decades running up the debt now decides its the teaparty's fault, because of a lack of taxes.  Just where is that yacht parked these days Johnny boy?

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at August 07, 2011 03:04 PM (4nfy2)

217 What do the Dims think of 9/11 then, a "gross cultural misunderstanding?" Posted by: Cheeseheadette at August 07, 2011 06:54 PM

Did you forget? that was a "man caused disaster."

Posted by: real joe at August 07, 2011 03:04 PM (w7Lv+)

218 Dear Status Quo, Go fuck yourself. Sincerely, TheTea Party

Posted by: marie at August 07, 2011 03:05 PM (SEu+e)

219 Oh Dear Sweet Jesus. 

Fox is going to show interviews with the families of some of the fallen from the Afghanistan crash.

And in light of that, please check out what I posted at #198.

I already feel like crying.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 03:05 PM (UOM48)

220 When Rand Paul appears on C-Span carrying the head of Timmah Geithner then I'll believe he's a terrorist...

Posted by: Dave C at August 07, 2011 03:05 PM (cGNRP)

221
Haha, woops, I just accidentally deleted the wrong google account and now all my blogs are gone. Oh well.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 03:06 PM (PNrRc)

222 243 dave c that's when i'll officially join the tea party!!!!//////

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 03:07 PM (eOXTH)

223 When Rand Paul appears on C-Span carrying the head of Timmah Geithner then I'll believe he's a terrorist...

When he does that I will seek to destroy his marriage and supplant his wife!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:07 PM (piMMO)

224


That's the problem with being Christian! You can't be sure who the idiot liberals are.

We had Vietnamese nuns begging for money at mass today. When they, in broken english, said that they counseled women pre and post abortion, all the libtards got nasty looks on their faces. I wanted to pinch them.

After mass hubby said, "you could who the libs were." I said, "Ugly shoes, bad haircuts, bitter simpering faces?" He said, "Yes, but today by their nasty expressions who the libs were when the nuns mentioned abortion"

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:08 PM (ChHnu)

225 @230 "Perfect. Of course, be prepared for endless notes home and perhaps a "friendly" visit from school officials." I'll just say "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need." I suspect that will bring a tear to their union eyes.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (ZgvjV)

226 103: I will not go into the cattle cars. I will go down fighting.

Posted by: CMU VET at August 07, 2011 03:09 PM (ckP50)

227 Well, the S&P press release did specifically cite Congress's inability to reach an agreement on new revenue. The report was as honest an assessment of our problems as I've ever seen: we spend too much, revenue is too low, and political brinksmanship and bitter made larger deficit reduction impossible. There's enough blame for everyone.

Posted by: Jordan at August 07, 2011 03:10 PM (4z6KA)

228

In the Dutch Navy we're all gay,

That doesn't mean we swish and sway!

Posted by: USS Diversity at August 07, 2011 03:10 PM (KbEJl)

229 Fox is going to show interviews with the families of some of the fallen from the Afghanistan crash.

Everytime I think about their mothers I start sobbing.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:10 PM (ChHnu)

230 lol, my least organized child is helping my most organized child organize his backpack.....very sweet......he's letting her do it ......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 03:11 PM (eOXTH)

231 What do the Dims think of 9/11 then, a "gross cultural misunderstanding?" Posted by: Cheeseheadette at August 07, 2011 06:54 PM

Did you forget? that was a "man caused disaster."

We have a new, fancy-schmancy little turd of a description for genocide now, too. I went on a bit of a rant about it late on the ONT last night.

Mass Atrocities

My favorite outtake might be this:

The President's Proclamation fills this gap, and by enumerating these grounds for denying admission to the United States, policymakers will have a new tool to warn groups that have carried out, or may be about to carry out crimes against humanity, war crimes, and related abuses , that their conduct falls within explicit standing bans on admission to the United States.  As such, we will be able to more effectively shame those who are organizing widespread and systematic violence against civilians based on ethnicity, religion, or other protected characteristics. In banning would-be organizers of human rights violations as well as perpetrators, it allows the United States to act expeditiously before planned atrocities metastasize into actual ones.




Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:12 PM (piMMO)

232 Moby alert! Prepare depth charges.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 03:13 PM (ZgvjV)

233 I hate to be a debbie downer but who exactly should buy the crayons, pencils, paper et al? Are you guys pissed at the quantity? Maybe just by the exact quantity needed for your own student and no more? In private schools you always have to buy supplies, meals, uniforms, sports equipment, books, etc. I would balk at buying more than my own student would use.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:13 PM (ChHnu)

234

Everytime I think about their mothers I start sobbing.

Yeah same, but I keep getting distracted by this kink in my short game.

Brb, gotta putt from the rough.

Posted by: Delta Smelt channelling OWaffle the Merciful at August 07, 2011 03:14 PM (dWPyO)

235 Well, the S&P press release did specifically cite Congress's inability to reach an agreement on new revenue. The report was as honest an assessment of our problems as I've ever seen: we spend too much, revenue is too low, and political brinksmanship and bitter made larger deficit reduction impossible. There's enough blame for everyone.

Posted by: Jordan at August 07, 2011 07:10 PM (4z6KA)

For god's sake.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:15 PM (ChHnu)

236 To hell with these liberal/leftist morons.

Posted by: rplat at August 07, 2011 03:16 PM (4vq8i)

237

Has everyone else noticed that Bob Schieffer (think MSNBC & "Lemon") :

 1. Allowed Axelrod to talk at length without interruption
 2. Allowed Axelrod to use his talking points
 3. Really never cornered Axlerod (the "3-year"clip was  a game ended, yet Bob blew it)
 4. Barely tried to interrupt Axlerod (re-watch the video after the "3-year" clip ... "what ...", "what ...")

I think it's clear that JEF and Axelrod and Jarrett, and the rest of the dolts OWN their "AA+" grade, and everyone, even Bob Schieffer, knows it.

 - Spray paint this interview on JEF: "... these are the sorts of advisors and experts JEF relies on ..." ... call Earl Scheib if necessary

 - Get word to all Tea Party candidates: DO NOT TOLERATE interviewer interruptions. Bob Schieffer just set a precedent. Remind the interviewer if necessary.

 - Check on companies that use PR firms ... is Axelrod involved? Gee, trusting the companies ads & specs and guaranties ... too risky. Go to the competitor.  Spread the word.

 

 Wasn't John Kerry's yacht was bought with his WIFE's money?

  Something tells me it was, and that he registered it in RI because John HAS NEVER MADE ENOUGH MONEY to even pay the local slip fees, let alone Mass Taxes.

 Perhaps we should start asking ... publicly ... perhaps at Kos, maybe DU(mmy) Land, Fire Dog's Puddle ... again and again and again .......

 

 And finally, the retired Wall Street idiots (specifically, the local brokers): very few of them actually made money for their clients. Most of them made money by looking good to their bosses. getting clients to buy the company recommendations ...

... #5 Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (UOM4 ... you don't know me, but it's clear, even to me, that the retired Wall Street guy was actually talking to your husband.

 

Posted by: Arbalest at August 07, 2011 03:16 PM (qsiuq)

238 Anyone else have the sneaking suspicion that the three sibling bank-robbers have a more than sibling love for one another?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:17 PM (piMMO)

239 Reason 852 why I should not be president: I would load up every bomber we had and turn that part of Afghanistan into moonscape.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:17 PM (P4s5M)

240 252 Well, the S&P press release did specifically cite Congress's inability to reach an agreement on new revenue. The report was as honest an assessment of our problems as I've ever seen: we spend too much, revenue is too low, and political brinksmanship and bitter made larger deficit reduction impossible. There's enough blame for everyone.

Posted by: Jordan at August 07, 2011 07:10 PM (4z6KA)

"New revenue" is absolute bullshit anyways.  Because for liberals new revenue is never to be used for existing expenses.  Its always used to "pay" for a new program they want to enact.  Of course the "revenue" is never actually enough to pay for that new program anyways.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 03:17 PM (GULKT)

241 I hate to be a debbie downer but who exactly should buy the crayons, pencils, paper et al

Me. I should buy them for my own children. I should also be able to get my kid a Phineas and Ferb folder if that's what he wants. I should not be responsible for buying folders for everyone else in the classroom, especially when that means that my own child gets fewer options.

Look, it's not just about folders and pencils. It is setting up communism in the kindergarten classroom. It's teaching children that redistribution is normal. That's what I have a problem with.


Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 03:19 PM (HsfLZ)

242 Reason 852 why I should not be president: I would load up every bomber we had and turn that part of Afghanistan into moonscape.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 07:17 PM (P4s5M)


....and??.......I'm waiting for you to get to the part why you shouldn't be president

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 03:19 PM (AnTyA)

243 #263, Bob Schieffer is a good little waterboy. Don't expect anything out of that dupe.

Posted by: The Donkey Show at August 07, 2011 03:19 PM (ijjAe)

244 I just saw a couple of the interviews with the dead troops.

One guy had only been in Shitcanistan two weeks.

Which reminds me of a young Marine officer from here we lost a couple of years ago.  He volunteered out of Okinawa (like our boy has volunteered) .  He was killed three weeks after he arrived.

Three days before he was killed, he told his mother how much school materials (paper and pencils) meant to the kids he had met.

His sainted mother has set up the Mathew Freeman Project, and they've collected truckloads of school materials to send to the Afghan kids in his memory.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 03:20 PM (UOM48)

245 Reason 852 why I should not be president: I would load up every bomber we had and turn that part of Afghanistan into moonscape.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 07:17 PM (P4s5M)

Funny, I was thinking that would be reason number 1 why I WOULD want you to be president.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 07, 2011 03:20 PM (jucos)

246 swinging London

Fears that violence was fanned by Twitter as picture of burning police car was re-tweeted more than 100 timesShop looted and youths storm McDonald's and start cooking their own foodMail on Sunday photographers beaten and mugged by masked thugs

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 07, 2011 03:20 PM (UqKQV)

247 Are you guys pissed at the quantity? Maybe just by the exact quantity needed for your own student and no more? In private schools you always have to buy supplies, meals, uniforms, sports equipment, books, etc. I would balk at buying more than my own student would use. Posted by: dagny My folks always had to buy stuff for me when I was a kid.. My wife and I just finished buying a bunch of stuff for our kids just the other night... However we did balk a bit at the "12 glue sticks" and just bought our youngest 3.. If she needs more, we'll get them then.. I think some of the items they have some people overbuy to make up for those students who won't/don't buy supplies..

Posted by: Dave C at August 07, 2011 03:20 PM (cGNRP)

248 Roemer/ Dagny 2012

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:21 PM (dWPyO)

249 Posted by: Jordan at August 07, 2011 07:10 PM (4z6KA)

Are you animal, vegetable or mineral?

Posted by: Not Drinking or Tearrorizing Nearly Enough at August 07, 2011 03:21 PM (JEvSn)

250 ‘...Napoleon was there all right.’

‘What was he doing?’

‘Walking up and down— up and down all the time— left-right, left-right—never stopping for a moment... muttering to himself all the time. “It was Soult’s fault. It was Ney’s fault. It was Josephine’s fault. It was the fault of the Russians. It was the fault of the English.” Like that all the time. Never stopped for a moment. A little, fat man and he looked kind of tired. But he didn’t seem able to stop it.’

—C. S. Lewis, The Great Divorce

Posted by: ExExZonie at August 07, 2011 03:21 PM (9gvjb)

251 Reason 852 why I should not be president: I would load up every bomber we had and turn that part of Afghanistan into moonscape.

I hope you plan on using that as your campaign slogan. You've already earned at least one vote.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:21 PM (piMMO)

252 One of the first things a dictator does after confiscating all privately owned firearms is to seize control of communications. They must eliminate the truth. They send their thugs into radio and TV stations and dictate what can be said. The only ideas and information they want heard are the ones they approve of. If you study up on dictators you will see this is absolutely true. Look at what Hitler did in Germany, and recently Hugo Chavez. Communication services that do not disseminate the approved information are shut down, silenced. So we must be wary when politicians tell us someones ideas are invalid, AND SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE HEARD! Tea Party folks are not advocating violence, they are saying there is a different approach to the solving of the countries economic problems, their ideas are too radical to be heard? This is how some people would thwart Democracy in our country. They only want you to hear approved information. Any politician that advocates the silencing of political discourse should be fired. Guard against these people they are traitors!

Posted by: Emil at August 07, 2011 03:22 PM (pMICI)

253 #269, That would be quite wasteful of tax payer's dollar. A single nuke could probably do the job better, faster, and cheaper than utilizing the entire B-52 fleet.

Posted by: The Donkey Show at August 07, 2011 03:22 PM (ijjAe)

254 Jordan, the longer response would be to note that revenue is as low as it is because those of us sitting on capital (which isn't me, btw) are riding out the storm and not contributing to the economy. I'm sure that comments like yours will fly at the Coffee Party meetup, but for my part I'm not interested in "moderation" and "middle road" between those who produce and those who don't.

The shorter response is, suck my cock.

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 03:23 PM (C0L0L)

255 What great sin did we commit as a nation for which Jawah or the Great Spirit or whatever god you pray to decided we needed punishment.  And what was the punishment?  We find ourselves infested with a group of whining cocksucking weasels from Chicago who blame all problems on others.  They are nasty shape shifters and blame boosters.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 07, 2011 03:23 PM (3ESDJ)

256 Emil, take some money out of petty cash and buy a paragraph.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 03:26 PM (ZgvjV)

257 dagny i have no problem buying what my kids need , i have a problem with the "wish" list and the stuff they lure you into buying that you think is for just your kid but ends up in a pile for the class to use through the year.....the one comment from someone who was sending nothing with their kid to teach the school how communism doesn't really work.....was pretty funny

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 03:26 PM (eOXTH)

258 revenue is too low, and political brinksmanship and bitter made larger deficit reduction impossible. There's enough blame for everyone.

Posted by: Jordan at August 07, 2011 07:10 PM (4z6KA)

Jordan, do you like gladiator movies???

Posted by: SantaRosaStan at August 07, 2011 03:26 PM (UqKQV)

259 This came from an email I got a couple of days ago from John Mauldin, quoting a long post by Keith Fitz-Gerald, Chief Investment Strategist, Money Map Press:

“Factor in the evisceration of our national wealth, the debt debacle on both sides of the Atlantic, feckless leadership, and regulators who are trying to make up lost ground for having missed the crisis in formation, and we have a real witch’s brew, the results of which cannot be understated, especially when it comes to capital markets... [lots of analysis between called out quotes]... You can’t just wish away $202 trillion in unfunded liabilities, despite what those in our capital might think.”

http://is.gd/mSZwth

Posted by: ExExZonie at August 07, 2011 03:27 PM (9gvjb)

260 With Japan and Germany both we had to destroy an ideology. So much ruin had to be visited upon them that now 60 years later they are reticent to even try to defend themselves. They, by nature, now look to us who protected the survivors of their failed regimes from OUR enemies, lest they fall in thrall to another despot.

Posted by: Patton torabora at August 07, 2011 03:27 PM (Mvp1M)

261

By the time the MFM and the WH get done spouting the anti Tea Party meme millions more will have become Tea Partiers. It will be the same effect as the Oblowme Care shit storm. When the dust clears the only ones standing will be Tea Party conservatives.

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 07, 2011 03:27 PM (A23u6)

262 Anyone here read Matt Taibbi at Rolling Stone? He is a flaming Leftist, but he is a consistent one. Very entertaining writer too. He rips Obama and the entire Democratic Party a new asshole in his latest blog post: "The Democrats aren't failing to stand up to Republicans and failing to enact sensible reforms that benefit the middle class because they genuinely believe there's political hay to be made moving to the right. They're doing it because they do not represent any actual voters. I know I've said this before, but they are not a progressive political party, not even secretly, deep inside. They just play one on television. For evidence, all you have to do is look at this latest fiasco."

Posted by: rockmom at August 07, 2011 03:29 PM (lSyyU)

263 $202,000,000,000,000 in unfunded liabilities, did you say?

*turns pale*
*isn't kidding*

Posted by: Boulder Toilet Hobo at August 07, 2011 03:29 PM (C0L0L)

264 hahaha John F'n Kerry cracks me up. What a big boob hahaha he always comes out from under when he thinks it is safe to pile on. Kind of like a Lib Mitt Romney Yep

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 07, 2011 03:30 PM (A23u6)

265 The guy sneered, "I'm retired from Wall Street.  I think I know a thing or two about how the economy works."

I guess he left when he found God

Posted by: James Loughner at August 07, 2011 03:31 PM (e8kgV)

266 Jordan,

I didn't know they have interwebbby access at the Village Idiot's Convention.

Posted by: mpfs TPT at August 07, 2011 03:31 PM (3TjSM)

267 So, the Mexican military "accidentally" lands a chopper at the wrong airport. In the wrong country.

This is where they claimed they thought they were landing.

This is where they actually landed.

Compare and contrast.

Are they really that similar? And what kind of friggin navigation system are they using?

Yeah. I buy it.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:31 PM (piMMO)

268 Release the Biden!

Posted by: Obamus Slayer of Economies at August 07, 2011 03:33 PM (ZgvjV)

269 62 50 in years past i would donate stuff on the "teacher's wish list" this year i'm sending in a note saying "you wish!" ....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at August 07, 2011 05:44 PM (eOXTH)

Yeah, when our son attended public elementary school up north, every.single.year we were given a list of stuff to give to the classroom.

boxes of tissues

rolls of paper towels

wet wipes

etc., etc., etc.

This in addition to the hours spent volunteering and fundraising.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 05:47 PM (UOM4

Uh obviously you haven't been paying enough taxes or you wouldn't have to do all that stuff for free.

Now watch this drive!

Posted by: B+rry "I'm Part Irish" Ob+owmao at August 07, 2011 03:33 PM (Mvp1M)

270 I swear there have been so many lol'worthy quotes over the last few days but this one takes the cake --

"He (Perry) has a pretty poor record as governor of Texas on a lot of measures — on wage growth, on job growth, on health care," said Bill Burton, head of a new pro-Obama political action committee, Priorities USA, and until recently the deputy White House press secretary.

link

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:35 PM (bawX2)

271 $202,000,000,000,000 in unfunded liabilities, did you say?

Eh, I'll print it.

Posted by: Ben the terrorist suicide printer at August 07, 2011 03:35 PM (sOXQX)

272 I'm so Awesome!

Posted by: B+AA+rry at August 07, 2011 03:36 PM (GULKT)

273 I weep for our country.  And especially our military.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 03:37 PM (UOM48)

274 "He (Perry) has a pretty poor record as governor of Texas on a lot of measures — on wage growth, on job growth, on health care," said Bill Burton, head of a new pro-Obama political action committee, Priorities USA, and until recently the deputy White House press secretary.

When Perry runs I suspect there will be a number of big business leaders standing up to support him. The fella from Carls Jr. has a pretty compelling story as to why he left California for Texas.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:37 PM (piMMO)

275 So, the Mexican military "accidentally" lands a chopper at the wrong airport. In the wrong country.

The border has never been safer"
- Janet NapolitanoDirector of Homeland Security

Posted by: beedubya at August 07, 2011 03:37 PM (AnTyA)

276 Looks like the shills got their talking point.

Posted by: booger at August 07, 2011 03:37 PM (9RFH1)

277

Posted by: Comanche Voter at August 07, 2011 07:23 PM (3ESDJ)

We protected our own, which is alien to, well, alien cocksuckeers.

Posted by: ErikW at August 07, 2011 03:39 PM (cCmIU)

278 That Jordan is one smart cookie!...mow tell me, where do I get my free cellphone with 250 minutes per month?  Should I check my at local public assistance office?

Posted by: 52%er at August 07, 2011 03:40 PM (CdgsE)

279

They have tested our airspace security and it has passed their test.

Operation Red Dawn Mejico can be declared a success...

Posted by: KZnextzone at August 07, 2011 03:41 PM (ZUWaD)

280

So the public schools spend something like $15,000 per pupil or 2 to 3 times what the catholic schools spend and still don't have crayons?

I'd love to see a breakdown on where exactly that money goes.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:41 PM (CEc55)

281

Don't nuke it from orbit shoot 'til you see the whites of their eyes.

FIFY

Posted by: Reality-based moonbat at August 07, 2011 03:42 PM (K2wpv)

282

by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 07:31 PM (piMMO)

Do you have multiple personalities, or just like to be called by different names?

Kareem Abdul Jabaar, World, B. Free, Chad Ochocinco, Muhammad Ali, and Jared from Subway would like a word with you.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:42 PM (dWPyO)

283 @307 Union.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 03:43 PM (ZgvjV)

284

So the public schools spend something like $15,000 per pupil or 2 to 3 times what the catholic schools spend and still don't have crayons?

I'd love to see a breakdown on where exactly that money goes.

 

Shut up.  That's where it goes.

Posted by: Your Friends At The SEIU at August 07, 2011 03:43 PM (2wKsS)

285 Looters going crazy in London.  Soon to reach our shores.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 03:43 PM (UOM48)

286 "John Kerry Calls the U.S. Credit Change 'The TEA Party Downgrade.' " What does he know about anything? John Kerry called Boston Bruins goalie, Stanley Cup Finals MVP, and toast of New England Tim Thomas "Tim O'Brien." http://tinyurl.com/3n4n3wt

Posted by: BuddyPC at August 07, 2011 03:44 PM (nSkOL)

287

I'd love to see a breakdown on where exactly that money goes.

Solid to good wages, and lavish benefits for teachers. 80% at least.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:44 PM (dWPyO)

288 I'm so Awesome!

Posted by: B+AA+rry at August 07, 2011 07:36 PM (GULKT)

fapfapfapfapfapfapfapfap

Posted by: Steven Marche at August 07, 2011 03:44 PM (2wKsS)

289

Do you have multiple personalities, or just like to be called by different names?

Kareem Abdul Jabaar, World, B. Free, Chad Ochocinco, Muhammad Ali, and Jared from Subway would like a word with you.

Bobo Main is my very lame pron moniker.


You have one too, you know.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:45 PM (piMMO)

290 damn italics

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:45 PM (piMMO)

291 301 I don't doubt Perry has a poor record on wage growth in Texas.  Hmmm, now why would that be??  Could it be where Texas is located?  What country borders it?

Posted by: chris at August 07, 2011 03:45 PM (KDAAY)

292 Remember that lizard lady Anita Dunn?

She's baaaaaaaack. Now with 10% more stupid!

Leadership: Having the nation's first credit rating drop and staying mum while going golfing. Leadership. Indeed.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:45 PM (bawX2)

293

So the public schools spend something like $15,000 per pupil or 2 to 3 times what the catholic schools spend and still don't have crayons?

I'd love to see a breakdown on where exactly that money goes.



Vouchers! Vouchers! Vouchers!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:46 PM (piMMO)

294 Robert Reich: You Can Officially Blame The Double Dip On The Republicans

"It was never a debt crisis. The debt crisis was manufactured. ItÂ’s been a jobs, wages, and growth crisis all along. And that reality has finally caught up with us. 

Now that we’re slouching toward a double-dip recession, the only hope is voters will tell their members of Congress – who are now on recess back home – to stop obsessing about future budget deficits and get to work on the real crisis of unemployment, falling wages, and no growth."

(warning, don't read the entire article unless you want to have your bp go up and get furious)

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 03:46 PM (k1rwm)

295

You have one too, you know.

True. But only the babes lucky enough to get with The Smelt know it.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:46 PM (dWPyO)

296

OT, I just can't bring myself to feel too bad about the famine in Somalia.

If I recall, the last time we went in to try to help starving Somalis, their al Qaeda supporting local dirtbags murdered American soldiers and dragged their bodies through the streets.

Maybe their co-religionists in the Religion of Peace will feed them. Maybe the pirates they idolize will part with their stashes. As for America, we have suffering people at home.

Posted by: Palandine at August 07, 2011 03:47 PM (g7D8V)

297 laceyunderalls: "...Bill Burton, head of a new pro-Obama political action committee, Priorities USA..."

I wonder how much of Obama's stash he got? The worm really had a short official tenure. To think he and Axelrod had to leave the administration so early to get their astroturf going must indicate Obama's in some serious political hurt.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2011 03:47 PM (r4t7/)

298

Race riots in London and Wisconsin. So Pres McFuckstick is doin' a great job with race relations too. I guess he was too busy destroying the world order.

 

Recently ex super lib mother in law called this morning to say that 1. Barry is Gay, 2. George soros is directing the destruction of our economy on purpose and JEF is his puppet, 3. She can't use her cabana on the weekends because of the high surcharge

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:47 PM (lzAiJ)

299

It was surreal watching the Kerry video--he correctly identifies the underlying problems and then comes to the completely wrong conclusion.  But, if it's a tax raise the Democrats want, let's give it to them.  In addition to eliminating all the tax breaks for Hollywood and the media, the right should demand that any new income tax increase must be applied across ALL income levels, and the talking point should be that we are happy to see taxes increased on the rich so long as everyone else also bears some of the burden.  After all, it will cost the rich a lot more to be taxed an extra 5% than Joe the Teamster, so Joe's got no room to complain, right?  And all those people at minimum wage, surely paying a mere 5% to the government isn't significant.

When liberals argue that it is significant, the response is, "Oh, it is?"  What is that at current minimum wage, about $750 out of 15K?  For anyone making 300K+ a year, a 5% tax increase would be equivalent to an entire year's income at minimum wage.  Yeah, I'd say the rich would still be bearing the biggest burden at that point.

Force the left to vote on this, they can't win.  Either they oppose the tax increase because they say it disproporitionately hurts the poor (which the numbers above prove is false) and have to cut expenses, or they have to approve the tax and go on record as voting to tax the poor, which may cause a few of them to wake up and realize that liberals are not really the font of all that is good.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 03:47 PM (s3JuV)

300
hahaha John F'n Kerry cracks me up. What a big boob hahaha he always comes out from under when he thinks it is safe to pile on.

He's never given up on an executive-level political career. I'm sure he fumed when Hillary got SecState, and now he's angling for it in 2012. Assuming Obama wins, heh.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 03:48 PM (PNrRc)

301 True. But only the babes lucky enough to get with The Smelt know it.

What is the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on?

There were some pretty interesting results at the last thread.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:49 PM (piMMO)

302 I hate to be a debbie downer but who exactly should buy the crayons, pencils, paper et al.....

I was a single person that took responsibility for my son.
Perhaps the other children's parents [in the classroom] didn't, but, then again, maybe they are wealthy, corporate jet owners, now....because someone else's mom/dad worked more than one crappy job to pay for their crayons.

Posted by: Carolyn at August 07, 2011 03:49 PM (CQId4)

303 @319 That's some world record ugly on that clip. Call the Bronx zoo because their albino chimps escaped.

Posted by: Anonymoose at August 07, 2011 03:49 PM (ZgvjV)

304

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 07:46 PM (k1rwm)

Like Tony Montana, I'm going to let my wingman Manolo handle this.

Blast away, Mow Rons.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:50 PM (dWPyO)

305 "It was never a debt crisis. The debt crisis was manufactured. ItÂ’s been a jobs, wages, and growth crisis all along. And that reality has finally caught up with us.

Well, he's partially right.  Tax revenues are way down and stuff like unemployment comp, etc. ballooned the deficit.  But who's fault is it that, unlike all previous post-WWII recessions, we flat-lined instead of bouncing back?

Posted by: chris at August 07, 2011 03:51 PM (KDAAY)

306 When in doubt, blame it on Sarah Palin.  link

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 03:51 PM (k1rwm)

307

What is the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on?

Uh,

Sam Saratoga.  That ain't much of a porn name.

I prefer, like George Strait, to be referred to as The Fireman.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:51 PM (dWPyO)

308
Remember that lizard lady Anita Dunn?

She's baaaaaaaack.

I wonder where she is now. It's funny, Van Jones is trying to be the next Obama with some third-rate Green/Left movement.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 03:52 PM (PNrRc)

309

and still don't have crayons?

We're all expected to pay $10 to the school this year for things like paper towels and wet wipes and copier paper. As my friend pointed out, the same parents who always buy them when they are on the list will be paying the $10 and the same parents who never seem to get around to it (not for financial reasons) won't, so once again half of us will be subsidizing the other half.

I don't mind helping out those parents who do not have the financial means to pay for that kind of stuff-but at our school that's like one kid per classroom.

Plus, the moochie moochers don't provide pens, markers, pencils or any of that stuff for their kids either--so the teachers have to.

Once again, let me emphasize, these are middle to upper middle class cheapskates, not the needy.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 03:52 PM (RZ8pf)

310 What is the name of your first pet and the name of the first street you remember living on?

Snitchy Tara?

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:52 PM (lHKAM)

311 “What have they done? You’ve still got above 9 percent unemployment, we’re running record deficits and on Tuesday the president signed the largest increase of United States debt in history,” he continued. “Now, you tell me who’s terrorizing the country?”

Posted by: James Loughner at August 07, 2011 03:53 PM (e8kgV)

312 Snitchy Tara?

It has possibilities.

You had a pet named Snitchy?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:54 PM (piMMO)

313

Still no response from your retarded president about the downgrade. I think the "Blame the Tea Party" mantra is just a test-balloon sent out by the teleprompter to see if anyone buys it.

There's no way the Fail-In-Chief is going to take responsibility for this (or anything else for that matter), and the usual Blame-Bush plan is really getting old...

Posted by: NorthernX at August 07, 2011 03:54 PM (f31D4)

314

 the girls hickey team

heh.

Posted by: Palandine at August 07, 2011 03:54 PM (g7D8V)

315

OT, I just can't bring myself to feel too bad about the famine in Somalia.

Yes, what's up with that "starving baby in Somalia" article that's made the AP wire this weekend? I read it on 3 separate news websites, one from here, one from Colorado, and one national place.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 03:55 PM (RZ8pf)

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 03:55 PM (k1rwm)

317 Snitchy Tara?

!!!!!

Oh my lord.....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 03:55 PM (bawX2)

318 136 I see in the sidebar our Potus went golfing this weekend. 31 dead soldiers and the economy downgraded and this c**ksucker goes golfing. Bush's ass would have been in emergency session with his advisors and on the phone with troops and their families. I hate this POS and the next lib assholle that tries to defend him to me is going to have shit rain down on him so bad he won't open his piehole to me ever again. Posted by: Ohio Dan at August 07, 2011 06:20 PM (KdI6b) ---------------- Bumped because it's beautiful. Thanks Dan.

Posted by: Grandpa at August 07, 2011 03:55 PM (jeLTI)

319 Jeebus.  That idiot had to infect us tonight??

Didn't "curious" tell us she had "lots of NYC friends serving in Afghanistan?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 03:56 PM (UOM48)

320 OMG!   Midget porn!  My eyes!

Posted by: not clicking just to be safe at August 07, 2011 03:56 PM (RL7U1)

321

I didn't grasp that you guys were buying more than one child's worth of supplies. I wouldn't do that either.

Curious, you have to stop. We're on to you.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:56 PM (lHKAM)

322 Well, it's like deja vu all over again. How many weeks now have we been doing this?

WSJ live blog

the NIkkei which already closed down near 4 on Friday.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 03:57 PM (piMMO)

323 Downrated Upscale: "My local public high school just installed a lovely 100K plus carpet for the girls hickey team."

Man, times have changed.

Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at August 07, 2011 03:57 PM (r4t7/)

324 346 Snitchy Tara?

!!!!!

Oh my lord.....

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 07:55 PM (bawX2)

Snitchy with an "I", lace.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 03:57 PM (lHKAM)

325

Didn't "curious" tell us she had "lots of NYC friends serving in Afghanistan?

She meant "Little" Afghanistan.  A quaint section in Brooklyn.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 03:58 PM (dWPyO)

326 Italy could probably pay off their debt by churning out Monica Bellucci clones as pleasure robots.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 03:58 PM (ro15Z)

327

Dave Axelrod (the human pud) is as desperate as his boss to find a way out of being blamed for the mess they caused.  Fat chance, tubby.  You broke it, you bought it.

Posted by: JD at August 07, 2011 03:58 PM (WtMd2)

328  

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 07, 2011 03:59 PM (3h4rq)

329

dagny, our kids provide school supplies for the other kids whether we choose to or not, there are several sticky fingered kids who manage to "help themselves" to what they need the first couple of weeks of school.

I cannot begin to tell you how much I am not looking forward to another school year.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 03:59 PM (RZ8pf)

330 It's weird how they think they can say anything they want.

Posted by: rdbrewer at August 07, 2011 03:59 PM (3h4rq)

331

Do you have multiple personalities, or just like to be called by different names?

Kareem Abdul Jabaar, World, B. Free, Chad Ochocinco, Muhammad Ali, and Jared from Subway would like a word with you.

Bobo Main is my very lame pron moniker.


You have one too, you know.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 07:45 PM (piMMO)

Mine would be Willie Twyckenham. 

Posted by: PugBoo at August 07, 2011 04:00 PM (5nHLW)

332 358

dagny, our kids provide school supplies for the other kids whether we choose to or not, there are several sticky fingered kids who manage to "help themselves" to what they need the first couple of weeks of school.

I cannot begin to tell you how much I am not looking forward to another school year.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 07:59 PM (RZ8pf)

Do what someone else said they did.  Write your name on every single item your kid has to bring.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 04:00 PM (GULKT)

333 dagny, our kids provide school supplies for the other kids whether we choose to or not, there are several sticky fingered kids who manage to "help themselves" to what they need the first couple of weeks of school.

The same thing happens at my office. When someone is fired there is the mad rush to their desk to clean out all the supplies. It always seems the assholes who get fired are the ones hoarding the supplies too.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:01 PM (piMMO)

334

You had a pet named Snitchy?

It was the little rabbit my much older brother brought me at easter when I was 4 (to piss off my mother). The next september I went to his hutch to feed him and he was cold and hard. Not having any experience I brought the cold, hard rabbit upstairs to show my mother, who then proceeded to scream, stuff snitchy into a paper bag (pre-plastic) and then wash my hands for 30 minutes. I remember it well.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:01 PM (lHKAM)

335

buzzion, finally learned that trick last year. Because the school just won't seem to go for lobbing off the hands of the sticky fingered youts.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 04:02 PM (RZ8pf)

336 Snitchy with an "I"

C'mon that 'i' reading as an 'a' is just obligatory. Outstanding.

Re the school supply story again, we have an article in our local paper about the skyrocketing costs of supplies; which I do believe was p'girl's initial point. Anyway, you should read the comments. So typical.

Every child should start the year off right...
It's not fair that some kids have more than others....

The typical shit you'd expect to find braindead tards saying. These people just cannot grasp that this should be the parent's primary concern - not the other kids (by way of the parents) in the class.

Furthermore, how much do you want to bet some of these kids that have no school supplies have a lot of really  nice clothes? They may not be able to get the clothes for free, but yeah, they can afford another pair of nice jeans if they've been around the block and know some other parent will foot the bill for their kids' supplies.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:03 PM (bawX2)

337

dagny, our kids provide school supplies for the other kids whether we choose to or not, there are several sticky fingered kids who manage to "help themselves" to what they need the first couple of weeks of school.

Yeah, the catholic school kids have to take home all their supplies on Wed and Fri nights because the CCD (public school) kids steal them when they are in religion class in the school. It appears to be a cultural thing with the public school system.....take, take, take.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:03 PM (DpL+d)

338 Is there anything around here that needs squeezing?

Posted by: Putin at August 07, 2011 04:03 PM (3h4rq)

339 306

They have tested our airspace security and it has passed their test.

Operation Red Dawn Mejico can be declared a success...

Posted by: KZnextzone at August 07, 2011 07:41 PM (ZUWaD)

AHEM...they apparently forgot about me

Posted by: Chuck 'Invasion USA' Norris at August 07, 2011 04:03 PM (FIDMq)

340

As a polite conservative, when my (lib) friends would start with the usual BS I would smile nicely and move away.  Not anymore.  Now that I am (apparently) a brown shirt/al qaeda/terrorist/fool/idiot/clinger/bitter/neandertahl, et al, I decided it was time to fight back.  On Friday night it led to an argument so severe that I may have lost a friends, I nearly slapped someone, and what was the worst?  They actually truly believe it's all Bush's fault and we need to raise taxes?  I lost my shit.  Of course, the people who were speaking having been sucking on the public tit for 30 years and haven't worked in longer than that.  I'm still furious!

And everyone's been right:  you can't reason with them.  I saw all the junk employed:  changing the subject, disallowing facts, conflating issues (abortion & higher taxes, anyone?) before finally they got up and left the party.  Got in their car and drove away, because when they lose they go home.

Thanks, had to get that out.  It was awful.

Posted by: Biblio at August 07, 2011 04:04 PM (LNe4F)

341 Stupid tea party, if it weren't for them we'd all be living in a rose garden with lollipops, roses, dancing unicorns, and care bears. But, no, the tea party is too busy whacking grandma and frying kids for dinner to let America become Nirvana.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 04:04 PM (RZ8pf)

342 And yet the story of Snitchy somehow  manages to get better...!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:04 PM (bawX2)

343 The Teen Choice Awards are on Fox Network. For you pervs, I'm sure you can catch Miley Cirus doing a pole dance or a 13 year old humping a male dancer.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:05 PM (piMMO)

344 316 Do you have multiple personalities, or just like to be called by different names? Kareem Abdul Jabaar, World, B. Free, Chad Ochocinco, Muhammad Ali, and Jared from Subway would like a word with you. Bobo Main is my very lame pron moniker. You have one too, you know. -------------- Toonces (Google the video)

Posted by: Grandpa at August 07, 2011 04:05 PM (jeLTI)

345 I can squeeze grapes too.

Posted by: Putin at August 07, 2011 04:07 PM (3h4rq)

346

Most auto fellating awards show? The Vh1 change awards, or something like that, I don't know, it's something about giving awards to celebrities who are doing good works.

Posted by: ParanoidStillAGirlInSeattle at August 07, 2011 04:08 PM (RZ8pf)

347 One time I squeezed a geranium.

Posted by: Putin at August 07, 2011 04:08 PM (3h4rq)

348 Hedgehogs.  I wont squeeze hedgehogs.  So don't ask.

Posted by: Putin at August 07, 2011 04:09 PM (3h4rq)

349 I love Toonces but not as much as I love Comic.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:09 PM (piMMO)

350

The only people who will listen to these idiots are the hard left base types.  I think this kind of rhetoric will actually push people away.  It's like they are trying to defend their favorite NFL team when it has a losing record. Most people are not stupid.  They can say whatever they want but Obama owns this and the economy.  Most people are going to see it that way.  Seriously, when was the last time the democrats talked about a primary for a sitting democrat President more than a year out?

This what I have to believe.  It's the only thing keeping the rage at bay. }:< 

Posted by: PugBoo Tea Party Canine Sleeper Cell #4 at August 07, 2011 04:09 PM (5nHLW)

351

Alas, Poor Snitchy....I knew you well.

He/she was followed the next easter by 12 baby chicks, all of which I named "lassie". (That brother really had mom issues.) When they got big enough to start pecking each other, mom had to go out in the night and find a farmer who would take them (or that's what she said). I don't remember any tiny fried chicken.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:09 PM (DpL+d)

352 355 Italy could probably pay off their debt by churning out Monica Bellucci clones as pleasure robots.

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 07:58 PM (ro15Z)

Too old.

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at August 07, 2011 04:09 PM (Nvw83)

353 lifted from ZH

G7 Says Will Take Every Action to Stabilize Financial MarketsG7 says it will commit to secure liquidity in marketG7 will cooperate closely on currency market actionsG7 says it will be in close contact next few weeks

Posted by: I feel better already at August 07, 2011 04:11 PM (sOXQX)

354 Wait a minute...hold the phone...

I said that Dunn's comment was the stupidest of the week. Or was it that one about Perry? Maybe the Chris Matthews comment. Oh well I can't remember -- there have been too many.

Well this one, this is the big kahuna of liberal retardation right here.

Yup, you'll have to click it to see

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:11 PM (bawX2)

355 Just Friends on Comedy Central for you Ryan Reynolds fans.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:12 PM (piMMO)

356 This pissed me off enough to go  to the local Tea Party site and signed up for the $12 for 12 contribution plan.  I can't wait for the next begging call from the RNC.

Posted by: rockhead at August 07, 2011 04:12 PM (ZMHGo)

357

Posted by: Silvio Berlusconi at August 07, 2011 08:09 PM (Nvw83)

While Monica is a rare and special specimen, I do like the cut of your jib, and have already subscribed to your newsletter.

I do long for an alpha hetero as POTUS again as well.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 04:12 PM (dWPyO)

358 362 You had a pet named Snitchy? It was the little rabbit my much older brother brought me at easter when I was 4 (to piss off my mother). The next september I went to his hutch to feed him and he was cold and hard. Not having any experience I brought the cold, hard rabbit upstairs to show my mother, who then proceeded to scream, stuff snitchy into a paper bag (pre-plastic) and then wash my hands for 30 minutes. I remember it well. Posted by: dagny ___________________ Heretofore, Obama's economy shall be referred to as "Snitchy"!

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 07, 2011 04:13 PM (jeLTI)

359 Sugar Coated Satan Ribs are phenomenal.

I look forward to serving them to the M&M's some day.



Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:13 PM (ECjvn)

360 My questions for all of the asshats on the left is; How did we get here?  Did we not have enough debt?  Were we spending too little?  Was the deficit too small?  Have entitlement programs not been giving away enough money all of these years?  Should we be looking forward with glee to the violent riots that are happening in Greece and other Euro countries?  Logic would lead one to believe that is the case from the idiotic arguments they are making.
What's worse is that millions of people are going to believe this BS.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at August 07, 2011 04:14 PM (jx2j9)

361 386 Already there.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:15 PM (bawX2)

362

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 08:11 PM (bawX2)

You should lobby ace for a top headlines evening link thread.  Solid work.  Sadly, I don't have the energy, or the temperament.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 04:15 PM (dWPyO)

363 I'd take a few copies of Erika Bella in trade for helping Italy out.

High mileage, but built to last.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:15 PM (ECjvn)

364 And everyone's been right: you can't reason with them. I saw all the junk employed: changing the subject, disallowing facts, conflating issues (abortion & higher taxes, anyone?) before finally they got up and left the party. Got in their car and drove away, because when they lose they go home. Posted by: Biblio at August 07, 2011 08:04 PM (LNe4F) That's why they hold the beliefs they do. If they listened, did their homework, or could deal with facts they wouldn't, plain and simple. I've met maybe 2-3 "vague leftists" who, when confronted by the facts, actually began to reconsider their position and did their homework. Two of them are now fairly raging right-wing TEA Party types, the other I don't know. The rest stick their fingers in their ears and scream "LA LA LA LA I can't hear you," and then run back to the nearest leftist cocoon for reinforcement. Unfortunately that cocoon is as near as the nearest MBM outlet, keeping people stupid and dependent for 50 plus years.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 04:16 PM (bxiXv)

365 I have forgotten the 72 names of Baal. There will be some sore assed cats tonight I bet.

Posted by: furious at August 07, 2011 04:16 PM (ENKCw)

366

Just Friends on Comedy Central for you Ryan Reynolds fans

He's not bad.  The movie is mildly entertaining.  I've got it on myself in the background.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 04:16 PM (dWPyO)

367 I know 176 ways to make feeble arguments.

Posted by: spurious at August 07, 2011 04:17 PM (ENKCw)

368
Heretofore, Obama's economy shall be referred to as "Snitchy"!

I second the motion. Of course, you realize that poor Dagny will have to repeat the Snitchy story ad nauseum?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:17 PM (piMMO)

369 Y'all do know that Jordan is the same stuckinthemiddle, independent whatever its other nicks are concern troll we've had every night for the last few days?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 04:17 PM (bxiXv)

370 oh, and on that terrible Part D program we didn't pay for?

From the LAT:

Popular with beneficiaries, the program has also proven far less costly than budget analysts originally expected, in part because of competition among private plans and the growing use of less expensive generic drugs.

In 2012, the average Part D plan will charge seniors about $30 a month, the Department of Health and Human Services said.

That's down from $30.76 in 2011 and would mark the second time average premiums have declined since the drug benefit was initiated in 2006.

By comparison, overall healthcare spending in the U.S. is expected to grow by nearly 5% a year between now and 2014, according to the latest estimates by government actuaries. Premiums on many private medical insurance policies are rising even more sharply.

but competition won't work in Ryan's plan. Why?

An independent analysis of the House Republican proposal by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that the voucher system would force seniors on average to pay $6,000 more per year out of their own pocket for medical care.

so competition has made Part D cheaper than originally budgeted, but the same model applied to the broader program won't work because the same CBO that scored Part D says so.


Posted by: the dandy at August 07, 2011 04:18 PM (1h53u)

371 I cannot stop laughing at Snitchy. Sorry dagny, I know it was your pet and all, but, um, yeah it's funny.

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:18 PM (bawX2)

372 I'd take a few copies of Erika Bella in trade for helping Italy out.

High mileage, but built to last.


Who do you think you're kidding? You'd take Sophia Loren if given the opportunity.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:18 PM (piMMO)

373 Robert Reich: You Can Officially Blame The Double Dip On The Republicans

"It was never a debt crisis. The debt crisis was manufactured. ItÂ’s been a jobs, wages, and growth crisis all along. And that reality has finally caught up with us.

Every time Reich shows his troll mug, I think "Mickey Abbott"




Posted by: kbdabear at August 07, 2011 04:18 PM (Y+DPZ)

374 Invasion of the Snatch Bodiers

Posted by: inglorious at August 07, 2011 04:19 PM (ENKCw)

375 I cannot stop laughing at Snitchy. Sorry dagny, I know it was your pet and all, but, um, yeah it's funny.

At first I was laughing at Snitchy. Now I am laughing at you laughing at Snitchy!

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:19 PM (piMMO)

376 Just when you thought this fucker couldnt suck more, he goes golfing the same weekend we get downgraded for the first fucking time in history, and 32 SEALs die. And while he is golfing above the fray supposedly he sends out his fucking dickbag friends to fucking blame the downgrade HIS spending policies helped cause on me, my friends, and my family. So me and you are the terrorists. We are the fucking neanderthals. This mother fucker's president is fucking golfing, while blowing trillions on nothing, unemployment is well north of fucking 9%, and these pathetic pieces of human excrement are calling me a fucking terrorist responsible for downgrading our debt? What was the last spending bill I was for, because as far as my recolection goes I was against every fucking one. I signed up for the army 4 months after 911, and these fucking pieces of shit want to call me a terrorist? Fuck you asshole, fuck you right in the mouth. You and your fucking 3 fake ass purple hearts can go freaking screw.

Posted by: Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 07, 2011 04:19 PM (VidfH)

377 If the avg American falls for this tea party downgrade crap.. I will go insane. Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist at August 07, 2011 08:17 PM (qjUnn) Here are the keys to your own personal rubber room! "Average" is a scary place to be these days.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 04:19 PM (bxiXv)

378 I wonder if all the hipsturds and commies are gathering in vegan wine bars wondering how to divide up all our stuff when we go to the camps.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:20 PM (ECjvn)

379 I serve on my Tea Party committee.  How many of you have your own names out there?

I'm willing to be personally attacked.  You random morons?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 04:20 PM (UOM48)

380 My questions for all of the asshats on the left is; How did we get here? Did we not have enough debt? Were we spending too little? Was the deficit too small? Have entitlement programs not been giving away enough money all of these years? Should we be looking forward with glee to the violent riots that are happening in Greece and other Euro countries? I asked a liberal guy I know something akin to this and the answer I got back was "He had to fix Bushes mess"

Posted by: Dave C at August 07, 2011 04:20 PM (cGNRP)

381 If you know what's good for you, stay the fuck away from the Charmin, Putin.

Posted by: Mr. Whipple at August 07, 2011 04:20 PM (ro15Z)

382 Did I mention that Snitchy was mostly black with a white chest and paws?

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:21 PM (4Ou+6)

383 Yet this is the fault of the minority Tea Party.
Yes, because they're the most important 1/4 of 1/2 of 1/3 of the government.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2011 04:21 PM (oUG6f)

384 If the avg American falls for this tea party downgrade crap.. I will go insane.

Average American fell for a see-through dipshit named Obama. I'm not optimistic ...

Posted by: Waterhouse at August 07, 2011 04:21 PM (ro15Z)

385 Posted by: Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 07, 2011 08:19 PM (VidfH) Yep.

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 04:22 PM (bxiXv)

386 Finally home and oh fuck kerry and any other democrat who tries to blame the "tea Party".

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 04:22 PM (7wmOW)

387 I wanna lick your skin off....

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:23 PM (piMMO)

388 400 Y'all do know that Jordan is the same stuckinthemiddle, independent whatever its other nicks are concern troll we've had every night for the last few days?

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 08:17 PM (bxiXv)

Is he the one who's been giving us the friendly warning not to succumb to the racism inherent in conservatism, because hey, he's a Concerned Christian Conservative?

Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 04:23 PM (Nvw83)

389 Thanks for the keys.

Thanks for the keys.

Posted by: Tony Montana at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (1W/cK)

390 I have 547 friends that agree my nic is true.

Posted by: bootylicious at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (ENKCw)

391 Who do you think you're kidding? You'd take Sophia Loren if given the opportunity.

If Sophia Loren's ass didn't already have a crack in it I'd put one in it.
She has always been one hot woman.
I bet she could still suck start a B-29.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (ECjvn)

392 I don't know what you guys are watching, but EVERY Bret Baier show that included Steve Hayes and/or Charles Krauthammer had them both saying there would never be a default, for the same reasons we all know here.  

Chris Wallace, OTOH, yammered on and on about the "possibility of default".   Ditto Yawn Williams, who made the ritual claim that Republicans "wanted" to shut down the government and have us default, in order to punish Obama.


Posted by: Jim Sonweed at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (q9yZk)

393 Did I mention that Snitchy was mostly black with a white chest and paws?

Sounds like my cat, Steve McQueen. I call him Buddy.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (piMMO)

394 top headlines evening link thread

Nah, there's just a lot of good quotes this weekend. Plus, I hope to have more of a life next weekend!

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:24 PM (bawX2)

395 231
"S&P decision to cut U.S. credit rating shows stunning lack of knowledge about basic U.S. fiscal budget math."

Someone should hold little timmy down, and tattoo:

I AM THE MOST STUNNINGLY ARROGANT SON-OF-A-BITCH ON THE PLANET !!!

on his forehead.





Posted by: franksalterego at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (7/sDI)

396 1/4 of 1/2 of 1/3

DRINK!

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (ECjvn)

397 410
Just when you thought this fucker couldnt suck more, he goes golfing the same weekend we get downgraded for the first fucking time in history, and 32 SEALs die. And while he is golfing above the fray supposedly he sends out his fucking dickbag friends to fucking blame the downgrade HIS spending policies helped cause on me, my friends, and my family.

So me and you are the terrorists. We are the fucking neanderthals. This mother fucker's president is fucking golfing, while blowing trillions on nothing, unemployment is well north of fucking 9%, and these pathetic pieces of human excrement are calling me a fucking terrorist responsible for downgrading our debt? What was the last spending bill I was for, because as far as my recolection goes I was against every fucking one. I signed up for the army 4 months after 911, and these fucking pieces of shit want to call me a terrorist? Fuck you asshole, fuck you right in the mouth. You and your fucking 3 fake ass purple hearts can go freaking screw.
________________________________

If you could make this into a song, I'd sing it all day long.

Posted by: Nickie Goomba at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (jeLTI)

398 This is an excellent post. It is very informative. Thank you so much. I'll be a regular viewer.

Posted by: Extra Lives Audiobook at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (XYgaU)

399 Is he the one who's been giving us the friendly warning not to succumb to the racism inherent in conservatism, because hey, he's a Concerned Christian Conservative? Posted by: joncelli at August 07, 2011 08:23 PM (Nvw83) I prefer, given that we're on the internet, to use a non-specific pronoun because we don't know the gender of the poster. So I use one that combines she, he, and it together. S/h/it. As in "S/h/it just posted another concerned message."

Posted by: Merovign, Dark Lord of the Sith at August 07, 2011 04:25 PM (bxiXv)

400 I serve on my Tea Party committee.  How many of you have your own names out there?

I'm willing to be personally attacked.  You random morons?

Huh?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 04:26 PM (bawX2)

401 Finally home and oh fuck kerry and any other democrat who tries to blame the "tea Party".

Don't forget "Fuck the socialist RINO establishment types who will be blaming the tea party as soon as a poll tells them its popular with city people."

Posted by: Methos at August 07, 2011 04:26 PM (sOXQX)

402 Is it better to be loved or feared? That's a good question. It's nice to be both, but it's difficult. But if I had my choice... I would rather be feared. Fear lasts longer than love. Courtesy of "A Bronx Tale" And that is how we should handle the rest of the world- screw having them like us- make them fear us.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 04:28 PM (7wmOW)

403 The taste of my own taint is..... well, my nic says it all.

Posted by: delicious at August 07, 2011 04:28 PM (ENKCw)

404 these fuck sticks are retarded.

Posted by: sliderblaze at August 07, 2011 04:28 PM (1d0tk)

405 Fuck the socialist RINO establishment types who will be blaming the tea party as soon as a poll tells them its popular with city people.

All my friends are saying ...

Posted by: curiously mono-hashed at August 07, 2011 04:28 PM (1W/cK)

406 This is too confusing for me..first everything was GWB's fault..then Sarah's fault..now it's the Tea Party's fault. If I could only get my hands on this week's standard-issue dem talking points, I'd know exactly who to blame....

Posted by: Rondinellamamma at August 07, 2011 04:28 PM (165ZM)

407 435 I serve on my Tea Party committee.  How many of you have your own names out there?

I'm willing to be personally attacked.  You random morons?

Huh?

Posted by: laceyunderalls at August 07, 2011 08:26 PM (bawX2)



Sorry, I know a lot of people who claim to support the Tea Party.  But they don'tl

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 07, 2011 04:29 PM (UOM48)

408 I'm on so many fuckin Tea Party lists that Uncle Janet Napostanko's goons are carpooling around here.

Nobody here strikes me as the slinking and hiding type.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:29 PM (ECjvn)

409 Courtesy of "A Bronx Tale"

Huh?

Posted by: Machiavelli at August 07, 2011 04:29 PM (sOXQX)

410 There's an Obama movie? Somebody stop me from going to hotair.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:30 PM (/BdDF)

411 444 I'm on so many fuckin Tea Party lists that Uncle Janet Napostanko's goons are carpooling around here.

That's YOU?  I thought they were on to ME!

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 07, 2011 04:30 PM (Qxe/p)

412 "A Bronx Tale"

One of the all-time greats.



"Now you's can't leave."

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:31 PM (ECjvn)

413 Courtesy of "A Bronx Tale" Huh? Posted by: Machiavelli at August 07, 2011 08:29 PM (sOXQX) I guess you don't like Mob Movies?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 04:31 PM (7wmOW)

414 Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 07, 2011 08:19 PM (VidfH)

I think this needs to be etched in stone somewhere.

Posted by: Lauren at August 07, 2011 04:31 PM (HsfLZ)

415 OK, of all the bullshit I have seen in the last couple of months...THIS takes the cake:

Timmah says S&P's action was based on lack of knowledge about the country's finances.

Exactly what is it that everyone does not know, Mr. Secretary?  Since we live in a democracy with transparency (in theory), how about your educate us ignoramuses out here in the sticks and tell us what it is that we do not understand.  I'm pretty comfortable with my math skills, sparky.

We have to get these dolts out and get the indictments rolling shortly thereafter.  There is only one thing worse than a criminal and that's an incompetent criminal.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 07, 2011 04:32 PM (7utQ2)

416

Nah, there's just a lot of good quotes this weekend. Plus, I hope to have more of a life next weekend!

Are you saying people who comment here don't have a life?  Heh.

Good luck with that.  I hear there is room for one more in that limo curious tools around in.

As for me, this no life AOS commenter, well, I'll be here again next weekend...hopefully drunk unlike tonight.  Vic didn't come through on that bootleg whiskey. 

 

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 04:32 PM (dWPyO)

417 That's YOU?  I thought they were on to ME!

They mentioned you. Sleep lightly.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:32 PM (ECjvn)

418 402 Howdy all!

If the avg American falls for this tea party downgrade crap.. I will go insane.

Posted by: Jumbo Jogging Shrimp tea party terrorist at August 07, 2011 08:17 PM (qjUnn)

They'll claim this in the MBM, and have a poll to back it up too.  They'll just poll all New Yorkers.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 04:32 PM (GULKT)

419 I'm sure this has been discussed here before. If not check it out.
Amiyla Antonetti clip from Cavuto's show linked to Weasel Zippers

Posted by: sig at August 07, 2011 04:32 PM (0GV9m)

420 bet she could still suck start a B-29.

Since the bombs would've popped out already why start the engines.

Posted by: DaveA at August 07, 2011 04:33 PM (pnDL7)

421 Roemer/ Nevergiveup 2012

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 04:34 PM (dWPyO)

422 "Now you's can't leave." Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 08:31 PM (ECjvn) The saddest thing in life is wasted talent. And the choices that you make will shape your life forever. But you can ask anybody from my neighborhood... and they'll just tell you. This is just another Bronx tale.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 04:35 PM (7wmOW)

423 Predicted ABC/WaPo poll question:

Which is to blame for the downgrade:

A.  Intransigent tea party terrorists

or

B.  The President's balanced approach.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 07, 2011 04:35 PM (7utQ2)

424 Roemer/ Nevergiveup 2012 Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 08:34 PM (dWPyO) Well I certainly could use the money

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 07, 2011 04:36 PM (7wmOW)

425 brb...CONGA!

Posted by: Barry McDumbfuck at August 07, 2011 04:37 PM (LEcV+)

426 They'll just poll all New Yorkers Curious' "friends".

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:37 PM (/BdDF)

427

 They aren't watching current events around the world, let alone studying the history of populist movements.

 If they discredit the T.E.A. Party, the movement which replaces it will have a wolf's grin ...and it'll be howling for blood.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at August 07, 2011 04:38 PM (E7Z1r)

428 463 They'll just poll all New Yorkers Curious' "friends".

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 08:37 PM (/BdDF)

Like there's a difference.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 04:38 PM (GULKT)

429 There's an Obama movie?
Some Hollywood leftie (sorry for the redundancy, assless chaps) is making a killing Osama movie that'll probably feature the JEF as a major player. I read somewhere that military brass types were surprised to see the director at some closed event related to killing Osama. (Award ceremony??? I can't recall.) I'm sure Big Hollywood will have something up about soon enough if you want to avoid HA.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2011 04:38 PM (oUG6f)

430

It's crap like this that will increase the Tea Party numbers, so a silver lining.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at August 07, 2011 04:39 PM (FnRYN)

431 It would be Obama and the Democrat's fault if they busted the budget.  Since there is no budget S&P have to look elsewhere for the problem. Some body has to be held responsible.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 07, 2011 04:39 PM (hbAPu)

432 The Left wants tax increases, I say let's give them to them.  Let's tax the people who aren't paying their fair share.

A 15% tax on gov't union fees like the SEIU and the NEA.  These people get sweetheart benefits - they pay much less into their retirement plan than the vast majority of Americans do

Let's put a 15% surtax on all movie tickets and movie/television productions.   Hollywood people are rich.   They don't need all that money.  They won't miss it.

A 15% tax on all malpractice lawyers.   Has anyone seen the size of John Edwards' mansion?  These people are rich - yet they don't create any medicine or medical treatments.  By the way, this tax should specifically go to pay Obamacare.

Let's raise yacht taxes in all states, so that John Kerry can't sail off and dock in a tax haven.

And though this last one isn't a tax increase - let's make sure anyone who doesn't pay their taxes is disqualified from becoming Sec' of Treasury.

These are taxes increase I can support.

Posted by: Mike at August 07, 2011 04:40 PM (ptP00)

433 I'm sure the next argument I have all the libs will have switched from "Boosh" to "Tea Party" for blame.  I can't wait until it's blamed on "my dog ate the stimulus".

Posted by: Biblio at August 07, 2011 04:41 PM (LNe4F)

434 465 463 They'll just poll all New Yorkers Curious' "friends".

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 08:37 PM (/BdDF)

Like there's a difference.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 08:38 PM (GULKT)

New Yorkers exist.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 04:41 PM (abrv5)

435 I plan to pump you and dump you.

Posted by: usurious at August 07, 2011 04:42 PM (ENKCw)

436
He's never given up on an executive-level political career. I'm sure he fumed when Hillary got SecState, and now he's angling for it in 2012. Assuming Obama wins, heh.

Posted by: arhooley at August 07, 2011 07:48 PM (PNrRc

Good luck with that because todays pols are far removed from Kerry's elder statesman schtick! hahaha What a complete ass!

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (A23u6)

437 472 465 463 They'll just poll all New Yorkers Curious' "friends".

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 08:37 PM (/BdDF)

Like there's a difference.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 08:38 PM (GULKT)

New Yorkers exist.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 08:41 PM (abrv5)

Clearly you're just a mean old lady that should be writing her a check.

Posted by: buzzion at August 07, 2011 04:43 PM (GULKT)

438 Check out my smile. Cheshire would be proud.

Posted by: vainglorious at August 07, 2011 04:44 PM (ENKCw)

439 LOL. I thought your Bronx Tale reference was about the cartoo An American Tail not having seen the gangster movie.

Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2011 04:44 PM (oUG6f)

440 Posted by: Mike at August 07, 2011 08:40 PM (ptP00)

I think it was Bret Baier who was all over some Dem about that a couple of days ago. The Dem was left stuttering and  questioning the accuracy of the claim that more than half of eligible taxpayers pay none.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:44 PM (piMMO)

441 #469

I've been pondering what the reaction would be if a "compromise" were reached and anyone making > $1 million/year could not itemize deductions.

Technically, that wouldn't be a tax increase (ask Bush senior).
It would fall under the class of "closing some loopholes", and obviously would be wildly supported by all the millionaires (big O included) yammering about taxing the rich.

Posted by: jwb7605 at August 07, 2011 04:44 PM (Qxe/p)

442 cartoo = cartoon

Posted by: andycanuck at August 07, 2011 04:45 PM (oUG6f)

443 Do you know how many times I have to drive that bus up and down the street so we can afford to eat steak once a week?!



Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:45 PM (ECjvn)

444 I keep a few veggies in my 'inbox', if you catch my drift.

Posted by: parsinomious at August 07, 2011 04:46 PM (ENKCw)

445 The saddest thing in life
is wasted talent.
And the choices that you make
will shape your life forever.
But you can ask anybody
from my neighborhood...
and they'll just tell you.
This is just another Bronx tale.
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Lillo Brancato Jr.
Where Are They Now
(December 2005) Shot by off-duty New York police officer Daniel Enchautegui on December 10, 2005, while burglarizing a New York apartment. Enchautegui was shot by Brancato's partner, Steven Armento, and died shortly after. Brancato, who was unarmed, was also shot and left in critical condition.

One of many Sopranos actors who over-immersed themselves in the role.

Posted by: DaveA at August 07, 2011 04:46 PM (pnDL7)

446 This blaming of the Tea Party is designed to rile up the craziest of the hippies and ordered anarchists. The Democrats need violence for the next step.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:47 PM (ECjvn)

447 Do you know what time it is? It is time to wear your Tea Party moniker loud and proud.  I for one am going out and buy me a cool Tea Party bumper sticker. We ll need to get  Tea Party bumper stickers.

Posted by: Krazy Kat at August 07, 2011 04:48 PM (A23u6)

448 This blaming of the Tea Party is designed to rile up the craziest of the hippies and ordered anarchists. The Democrats need violence for the next step.

Their desperation is palpable and a desperate force is a dangerous one. They will resort to any tactic at this point.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 04:48 PM (piMMO)

449 I guess you don't like Mob Movies?

Cruelty vs. mercy (Chapter 17)

Posted by: Machiavelli at August 07, 2011 04:49 PM (sOXQX)

450 If you want to know the truth, the price of gigolos wearing cat costumes is waaay out of hand.

Posted by: atrocious at August 07, 2011 04:50 PM (ENKCw)

451 Robert De Niro looks so much like my Dad in Bronx Tale it makes me tear up a little when I see it. Dad could have been his brother in that movie. Spooky.

De Niro has gotten chubbier since, but he still looked like a workin man when he made that. Now he looks like a lib poofter.


Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:51 PM (ECjvn)

452 Wow. Axelrod. Funny how the "things we can do" to improve the economy in the coming year(according to Axelrod) could have been done at anytime in the last 3 years. Nice filibuster too by the Axe after Sheiffer nailed him with the Obama video clip.

Posted by: I'll Take Class Warfare For $200 Alex. at August 07, 2011 04:53 PM (4t9J5)

453 Their desperation is palpable and a desperate force is a dangerous one. They will resort to any tactic at this point.

Too bad our side can't get a fuckin' clue about how one does this.  GOP, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at every opportunity.  Motherfuckers.  Why aren't we AT WAR???  Why don't we play dirty?  Why don't we play to win?  Dammit!!!

Posted by: Peaches is pissed at August 07, 2011 04:54 PM (XeuJD)

454 Hey Axelrod.


Nice combover, Dickless.


Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:54 PM (ECjvn)

455 Cowards. Why can't Libs like Kerry call a tax hike a tax hike? What's this "revenue" crap? I cannot stand these filthy cowards.

Posted by: I'll Take Class Warfare For $200 Alex. at August 07, 2011 04:56 PM (4t9J5)

456 When you're a coward, everything looks like someplace to hide.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 04:58 PM (x3YFz)

457 I'm curious if I misspelled my nic or not. It's hard to type with 552 pounds of hot squirming man-love in your lap.

Posted by: supercatifragilisticexpealidocious at August 07, 2011 04:59 PM (ENKCw)

458 Too bad our side can't get a fuckin' clue about how one does this.  GOP, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at every opportunity.  Motherfuckers.  Why aren't we AT WAR???  Why don't we play dirty?  Why don't we play to win?  Dammit!!!


Because when they start having little Waco Standoffs all over the US for Tea Partiers and other "terrorists", George Will and Krauthammer and O'Reilly will be right there lapping up the blood and howling for our scalps right along with the Obama zombies.
They give less than 1/2 of 1/3 of a fuck about some Gadsden flag waving guy in Idaho and his family being the next Weaver family.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 04:59 PM (ECjvn)

459 I love how part of S & P's reasons for downgrade was the toxic political atmosphere in Washington D.C. And then here comes John Kerry......."well......it's not OUT fault.......it's the damn Tea Party!".............Stay classy, Kerry. You really aren't too f'n bright.

Posted by: I'll Take Class Warfare For $200 Alex. at August 07, 2011 05:01 PM (4t9J5)

460 The only surprise this weekend was that John McCain wasn't sitting on the couch agreeing with Kerry when he was slandering us.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 05:01 PM (ECjvn)

461 497 Too bad our side can't get a fuckin' clue about how one does this.  GOP, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory at every opportunity.  Motherfuckers.  Why aren't we AT WAR???  Why don't we play dirty?  Why don't we play to win?  Dammit!!!


Because when they start having little Waco Standoffs all over the US for Tea Partiers and other "terrorists", George Will and Krauthammer and O'Reilly will be right there lapping up the blood and howling for our scalps right along with the Obama zombies.
They give less than 1/2 of 1/3 of a fuck about some Gadsden flag waving guy in Idaho and his family being the next Weaver family.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 08:59 PM (ECjvn)

I have a Gadsden flag.  I live in Colorado, and I will end you if you come within 12.7 acres of my flag.  I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm not joking.  It's not funny.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:02 PM (x3YFz)

462

Axelrod's parents were card carrying commies (when it wasn't cool a la Anita Dunn and Van Jones) and we're supposed to listen to him in his role as chief adviser and ball licker and believe that what he says is good or bad for the pseudo-regulated-capitalist US economy is actually true????

Really? AND he looks like a serious PERV.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 05:04 PM (abrv5)

463 not you sifty, sorry if it came across that way, I'd guess I'd have to kit your ass up and give you a bottle of Jack, but I know which way you'd be shootin'

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:06 PM (x3YFz)

464 Lillo Brancato Jr.
Where Are They Now
(December 2005) Shot by off-duty New York police officer Daniel Enchautegui on December 10, 2005, while burglarizing a New York apartment. Enchautegui was shot by Brancato's partner, Steven Armento, and died shortly after. Brancato, who was unarmed, was also shot and left in critical condition.

Brancato and Armento are heroin addicts, they are both in prison now. Armento doing life for the murder, Brancato for a lesser offense.
Armento is from my old neighborhood, I grew up with his older brother.

Posted by: real joe at August 07, 2011 05:06 PM (w7Lv+)

465 The tea party was founded to stop the spending, stop givng people tax dollars if they couldn't pay their mortgage, and now these fuckers want to lay the blame for their spending on the tea party. I mean really it is probably the most dispicable shit I have seen in a while. They all met, and came out with this fucking talking point. To believe anything else is fucking retarded. They have called tea party people, racist, terrorists, extremists, fucking vampires, and now blaming the tea party people for debt, when they didnt even exist until fucking 2009. I mean wtf, in 2009 barry had a filibuster proof fucking congress of all Dems. This fucker could have done anything he wanted, and he did. They didnt even write a fucking budget. Since the tea parties started Barry has fucking added another 3 trillion to the national debt at least. How the fuck can these assholes go on TV and blame a political movement in a democracy for the shit they themselves did?

Posted by: Mr. Pink with nothing new to add at August 07, 2011 05:06 PM (VidfH)

466 I have a Gadsden flag.  I live in Colorado, and I will end you if you come within 12.7 acres of my flag.  I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm not joking.  It's not funny.

I feel the same way. But we are on our own from now on. Republicans hate us as much as the commies do.

They see Tea Partiers getting slandered, harassed, persecuted or even rounded up and they will break out the champagne.

I'll vote for them to get rid of Obama, but they won't get the support they once did volunteer-wise.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 05:08 PM (ECjvn)

467 The Tea Party, founded in modern times by Rick Santelli, is about not letting the government take our money and piss it away. 

Simple, really.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:08 PM (x3YFz)

468 I have 97 lawyer friends camped out at the emergency room entrance. Talk about a rough crowd. The ones with the sharpest hearing can detect an ambulance from 6 miles away; damn they put those brass nucks on quick.

Posted by: ferocious at August 07, 2011 05:09 PM (ENKCw)

469 not you sifty, sorry if it came across that way, I'd guess I'd have to kit your ass up and give you a bottle of Jack, but I know which way you'd be shootin'

This country bumpkin has done pretty well in the kitting up department since 9/11.

I will take the whiskey though.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 05:10 PM (ECjvn)

470 506 I have a Gadsden flag.  I live in Colorado, and I will end you if you come within 12.7 acres of my flag.  I'm not being sarcastic.  I'm not joking.  It's not funny.

I feel the same way. But we are on our own from now on. Republicans hate us as much as the commies do.

They see Tea Partiers getting slandered, harassed, persecuted or even rounded up and they will break out the champagne.

I'll vote for them to get rid of Obama, but they won't get the support they once did volunteer-wise.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 09:08 PM (ECjvn)

As Lt Gen Chesty Puller put it:  "We're surrounded.  That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them."

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:10 PM (x3YFz)

471 We fight back by staying calm and sticking to our principles.   No matter what the media says about the Tea Party,  the American people are closer to our beliefs than they are to the Democrats.   

The lousy economy will take care of Obama.   He's his own worse enemy.

Posted by: Mike at August 07, 2011 05:10 PM (ptP00)

472

Really? AND he looks like a serious PERV.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 09:04 PM (abrv5)

Every time his oily mug is on tv my dog starts scratching.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 07, 2011 05:11 PM (houma)

473 The Tea Party, founded in modern times by Rick Santelli, is about not letting the government take our money and piss it away. 

Simple, really.

That right there, tangonine.  And we really need to get the message to these RINO shitbirds that we will get this done with or without them.  This whole house of cards needs to come down, and soon.  All it needs is one little push. 

Posted by: Peaches is pissed at August 07, 2011 05:12 PM (XeuJD)

474 509 not you sifty, sorry if it came across that way, I'd guess I'd have to kit your ass up and give you a bottle of Jack, but I know which way you'd be shootin'

This country bumpkin has done pretty well in the kitting up department since 9/11.

I will take the whiskey though.

Posted by: sifty, Knight TEAmpler Crusader at August 07, 2011 09:10 PM (ECjvn)

When the balloon goes up, I need you here.  Bring yer youngins and your ammo.  We'll figure it out from there.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:12 PM (x3YFz)

475 Got my tit caught in a wringer today; I bet I don't let THAT happen again.

Posted by: incautious at August 07, 2011 05:13 PM (ENKCw)

476

Yeah, the catholic school kids have to take home all their supplies on Wed and Fri nights because the CCD (public school) kids steal them when they are in religion class in the school. It appears to be a cultural thing with the public school system.....take, take, take.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 08:03 PM (DpL+d)

Guess they haven't hit the Ten Commandments yet, huh?/

Posted by: not the droid you seek at August 07, 2011 05:13 PM (xc/va)

477 I guess I should Bing it, but just what are the industrial applications for silver?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 05:14 PM (piMMO)

478 thank you

Posted by: عراق توب at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (HH9XL)

479 Got my tit caught in a wringer today; I bet I don't let THAT happen again.

I really, really hope that's some sort of euphemism.

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (piMMO)

480 517 I guess I should Bing it, but just what are the industrial applications for silver?

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 09:14 PM (piMMO)

Killing Werewolves, Shapeshifters and Wraiths

Posted by: Sam and Dean Winchester at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (GULKT)

481 This place is dead anyway.

Posted by: Delta Smelt at August 07, 2011 05:16 PM (dWPyO)

482 I'd like to wish the world some pee
In perfect harmony

Posted by: harmonious at August 07, 2011 05:19 PM (ENKCw)

483 516 It's weird. It's not as if the public school kids come in and steal the stuff exactly. Some of it they do but mostly they destroy it. The catholic school kids have open desks which are left completely untouched all week and then, if they don't cart everything home, the ccd kids destroy or steal it all, even down at Kindergarten level. The eighth graders want to put mouse traps in the desks but know they would get in trouble. I personally think it's worth the penalty.

Posted by: dagny at August 07, 2011 05:19 PM (abrv5)

484 Our stalwart RINO pseudo-conservative spokespersons continue to let the Dems/Commies/Progs co-opt the language. 

Increased tax revenues are the same as tax hikes.
Infrastructure banks are the same as (non-)shovel ready projects that didn't work before.
Default is not the same as freezing the debt limit.
Kinetic military actions are the same as losing stupidly.
Extension of the Bush tax cuts is the same as maintaining the existing tax structure.
A tax cut is not the same as a minor decrease in the rate of programmed spending increases.
Compromise is not the same as always capitulating to the Dems/Commies/Prog agenda.
Terrorists don't believe in the US Constitution.

Posted by: Hrothgar at August 07, 2011 05:19 PM (yrGif)

485 Silver's application is mostly for being a conductor, IIRC it's even better than copper, but copper being much more plentiful and cheaper became the basis for most electrical applications.

Posted by: Conservative Crank at August 07, 2011 05:20 PM (s3JuV)

486 I liked the part where Axelrod said we should shut up because SEAL Team 6 would have wanted it that way. I found that very persuasive. I think he is a good person.

Posted by: Jim Treacher at August 07, 2011 05:21 PM (X3KAb)

487 The Tea Party, founded in modern times by Rick Santelli, is about not letting the government take our money and piss it away.  Posted by: tangonine


/Pedant
Those who became later know as TEA party started protesting right at the time of the first attempt at TARP. That was Sept.2008. Santelli didn't give his rant until Feb 2009. While he has been a clarion for a smaller, less ridiculous government, he wasn't the originator of the movement.
/Pedant

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2011 05:21 PM (DEcmU)

488 thank you for this topic this is very good

Posted by: مانشيتات at August 07, 2011 05:22 PM (UZ9dY)

489 Thanks, Crank

Posted by: Bobo Main at August 07, 2011 05:25 PM (piMMO)

490 That CCD thing is so not new. I remember having to do the same thing when I was a little Catholic schoolgirl meself (and I'm 41). AND they would write nasty messages on our desks!

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 07, 2011 05:26 PM (SB0V2)

491 527 The Tea Party, founded in modern times by Rick Santelli, is about not letting the government take our money and piss it away.  Posted by: tangonine


/Pedant
Those who became later know as TEA party started protesting right at the time of the first attempt at TARP. That was Sept.2008. Santelli didn't give his rant until Feb 2009. While he has been a clarion for a smaller, less ridiculous government, he wasn't the originator of the movement.
/Pedant

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 07, 2011 09:21 PM (DEcmU)

Welp, I was watching CNBC the day he said it, and I cheered, and that's what I'm about.  Never heard the term "Tea Party" prior to that and I've stayed pretty plugged in to the financial/political world for the last 4 years so I stick with Rick.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:27 PM (x3YFz)

492 well, aside from history class, of course.

Posted by: tangonine at August 07, 2011 05:28 PM (x3YFz)

493 Posted by: Hrothgar at August 07, 2011 09:19 PM (yrGif)

That's a great list you put together.  Orwell warned of exactly that and yet we have a bunch of Repukes sitting on their dead asses and not doing a fucking thing to counter it.  I understand the concept of not interrupting your enemy when he's in the middle of making a complete ass out of himself; but trusting "the undecideds" to get it right is putting your faith in a very flimsy container.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 07, 2011 05:30 PM (houma)

494 My ability to 'swallow' is well known.
 

Posted by: prodigious at August 07, 2011 05:31 PM (ENKCw)

495 wow selena zito just told batchlor that the president is arriving for the bus tour
on AF 1 and then getting on the bus and going to the St. Regis?   So she thinks with the closed roads and inconveniences people will be upset but, she also thinks he's not planning on shaking hands with the common man especially if he's going to the st. regis.

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 05:33 PM (k1rwm)

496 mona charon from national review online blamed the republicans saying they thought we were going to have recovery summer and that S&P was kidding.

Is it me or did no one really talk about S&P during the debt ceiling drama?

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 05:37 PM (k1rwm)

497
536

I demand to know the reason your sorry, annoying, dumber-that-ratshit ass is not yet roasting on a spit in hell.

Posted by: Peaches is pissed at August 07, 2011 05:38 PM (XeuJD)

498 I once outran MichelleO to a batch of French fries. I've got the lumps to prove it.

Posted by: bodacious at August 07, 2011 05:40 PM (ENKCw)

499 wow are all the moronnettes menopausal?

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 05:42 PM (k1rwm)

500 541 wow are all the moronnettes menopausal?

Fuck you, skank. 

Posted by: Y-not at August 07, 2011 05:45 PM (5H6zj)

501 wow are all the moronnettes menopausal?

What was it like for you 30 years ago?

Posted by: cherry π at August 07, 2011 05:47 PM (OhYCU)

502 Posted by: cherry π at August 07, 2011 09:47 PM (OhYCU)

You solved it!  We're being trolled by Maureen Dowd rolled in cat-shit.

Posted by: not clicking just to be safe at August 07, 2011 05:50 PM (RL7U1)

503 From Yahoo comments....
Lets say the tea party is to blame. What does that say about Obama's leadership that he let a minority rule? Presidents lead right? What does that say about the his inability to control a supposedly out of control minority? Who leads the senate?  Who is president?  Yet they complain this out of control, uncooperative crazy stubborn minority ran everything. What?

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 07, 2011 05:51 PM (lpWVn)

504 Why don't you try filtering Ace of Spades HQ right out of your links and favorites, curious. That ought to solve "your" problem.

Posted by: conscience at August 07, 2011 05:52 PM (Fz9vW)

505 Hitler and Lurch, lecturing us. They can both sux my massive sausage.

Posted by: Clutch1956 at August 07, 2011 05:53 PM (X67eL)

506 It's not just the moronettes that ate sick of your shit snookie. Now tell us, does Donald trump style his pubic hair the same as the hair on his head? You should know considering how much you blow him

Posted by: inquiring minds want to know at August 07, 2011 05:54 PM (qwDtK)

507 You should know considering how much you blow him

Don't involve me in this mess, sparky.  I may be a complete buffoon, but I think my standards for women-folk speak for themselves.  I wouldn't let that idiot blow my ex's dog.

Posted by: Teh Donald at August 07, 2011 05:57 PM (XeuJD)

508 All I have to say is Duffy Egelhof.

Posted by: Miss Marple at August 07, 2011 06:09 PM (Fo83G)

509 "US Treasury obligations are denominated in US dollars. The current US monetary base, (M0 or currency in circulation plus dollar-denominated bank reserves held at the Fed), is only about 19% of Treasury obligations. So, there is currently insufficient money to repay Treasury debt. Thus, a divided Congress or government may theoretically block further money creation, which would either increase pressure on Treasury to divert available funds towards meeting principal and interest obligations or eventually lead to outright default. We believe S&PÂ’s downgrade is legitimate in light of growing public sentiment, reflected increasingly in the House, not to raise the debt ceiling."

link

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 06:11 PM (k1rwm)

510 Tea party holdin a pair of deuces called the Lyin kINGS bluff. He was holdin aces and eights... the dead mans hand.
Now the  Lyin kings henchman are blaming the dealer and the Tea Party, while the kING puts some ice on it.



I dare anyone to argue with that!

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at August 07, 2011 06:11 PM (lpWVn)

511 It's Dowd-y doody !

Wipe off that doody, Dowd, you'll get infected (further).

Posted by: not clicking just to be safe at August 07, 2011 06:14 PM (RL7U1)

512

" He was holdin aces and eights ..."

I thought it was B+ and AA+ ....

Posted by: Arbalest at August 07, 2011 06:22 PM (qsiuq)

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 06:33 PM (k1rwm)

514 Dowd-y doody !
Dowd-y doody !
Dowd-y doody !
Dowd-y doody !

Posted by: not clicking just to be safe at August 07, 2011 06:59 PM (RL7U1)

515 Mark O. Hatfield, former Oregon governor and senator, died tonight

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 07:26 PM (k1rwm)

516 was that the old horn dog?

Posted by: D. Hopper Badger at August 07, 2011 07:39 PM (kBWjM)

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 07:59 PM (k1rwm)

519 this is going around in emails, it's pretty weak but you believe what you want to believe.

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 08:09 PM (k1rwm)

520 Someday, when one of these lying bastards is spewing their latest propaganda, I'd like the host to produce a big pair of heavy leather gloves, and slap the jerk silly while demanding some honest answers.

Posted by: epobirs at August 07, 2011 08:10 PM (3s9Gl)

521

"For the third quarter, a 1,200-point decline in the industrial average before 2 p.m. will cause trading to stop for an hour. If the decline occurs between 2 and 2:30 p.m., trading will stop for half an hour. If a drop of this size occurs at or later than 2:30 p.m., trading will not stop.

If there is a decline of 2,400 points in the index before 1 p.m., trading will stop for two hours. If this occurs between 1 and 2 p.m., trading will stop for an hour, and if this happens at or after 2 p.m. trading will be halted for the rest of the day.

If there is a decline of 3,650 points in the average at any time, trading will stop for the rest of the day."   link


worth the read.

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 08:35 PM (k1rwm)

522 tomorrow people like beck, whitney and schiff should be out there saying "we told you so" but they won't....

Posted by: curious at August 07, 2011 09:50 PM (k1rwm)

523 My senior Senator is like both ends of a horse.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) at August 07, 2011 10:27 PM (vfylY)

524

The last Republican budget was 2006 when unemployment was 4.6 and the deficit was 168 billion. In 2007 the democrats doubled the budget the first time upon acheiving majorities. In 2008 the democrats destroyed a fast three million jobs in the two months following the minimum wage hike. Republicans warned it was a job killer. In 2009 Bush never even SAW the budget because democrats were playing shenanigans in an election year and did their best to hide the budget from the public. The budget for 2009 was signed by Obama because it was so late. Now after almost five years of democrat budgets the deficit is 1.7 trillion and real unemployment (U6) is at 20%. Blame democrats.
Look up ‘Community Re-investment Act’, to see democrats forced banks to give loans to people who could never pay them back so much it overloaded the system with bad debt and the market crashed. Thank your leftist pals for this recession.
Thank Obama for the inflation created by the 'Quantitative Easing'
Thank Obama for high gasoline prices. And the higher cost of everything else as a result.
Obama is forcing 12 coal fired electric plants to shut down so your energy bills will be 40-60% higher.

Posted by: Pitt at August 08, 2011 04:12 AM (f7ylG)

525 My senior Senator is like both ends of a horse.

Posted by: Dave (in MA) at August 08, 2011 02:27 AM (vfylY)

 

And mine (Dickless Dirtbag Durbin) is what comes out of the back end of the horse

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 08, 2011 05:45 AM (1Jaio)

526 TEA Party is an UPGRADE compared to these assclowns

Posted by: KLH at August 08, 2011 08:21 AM (AtCn2)

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