1 The law of unintended consequences is one law even the Congress can't alter.

2 Does the whistleblower law apply to the government? That would be a good way to cut the budget...

3 You know how to whistle, don't you Steve?

4

All the comments at the site seem to be for it. It's another sign of people assuming the title of the bill accurately represents what is inside the bill.

 

I think we should have termed call the Paul Ryan Plan the "Everybody Gets a Puppy Act of 2012".

5 But that last bold part in the quote about not requiring internal reporting first ... that's a huge problem.

yeah and it really goes to show what Democrats really think about businesses - that they are just out there raping the consumer and they can't be trusted to deal with problems honestly and fairly

6
**incoming transmission from Moonbat One**

7 I think we should have termed call the Paul Ryan Plan the "Everybody Gets a Puppy Act of 2012". How about the "Fuzzy Puppy with Big Wet Eyes and Undying Loyalty Act of 2012?" Can't be too understated.

8 I think we should have termed call the Paul Ryan Plan the "Everybody Gets a Puppy Blowjob Act of 2012".

FIFM

9 And once again, Congress shows its prowess at making rules that only serve to undermine economic growth.  After all, nothing grows business by having this Sword of Damocles hanging over their heads.   Congratulations, cretins! 

10 think we should have termed call the Paul Ryan Plan the "Everybody Gets a Puppy Steak and a Blowjob Act of 2012".

11
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12 Lets save Media Matters some trouble.

Andy@AOSHQ SAYS "MURDER CORPORATE WHISTLE BLOWERS!"

13 Posted by: chemjeff at May 27, 2011 12:08 PM (7mSYS)

Everybody Gets a Puppy Blowjob And a Six-pack Act of 2012".

Now I'm in.

14 the Dodd-Frank financial reform legislation

The problem distilled to just 6 words.

The irony is astounding.

15
Notice how Gov Snyder did not "inherit a mess" left by Jennifer Granholm.

16 >> The law of unintended consequences is one law even the Congress can't alter.

Unintended, you say?

17 Posted by: Soothsayer at May 27, 2011 12:09 PM (uFokq)

How do you not get banned from Kos?

18 But, but, but... Retaliation!!!!

Really, I've been at a lot of companies where heads butted (over things that wouldn't get someone thrown in jail) and I have never, ever seen a true case of Retaliation.  Which is not to say that they don't exist, just that they're a lot more rare than some would have us believe.

That said, I can also see why, in certain cases, you wouldn't want to take your whistle blowing to someone internal- if the person you've caught dipping into the till is the CFO, I can understand being a little bit hesitant to take that to said CFO (or to people who report to him).

Now, I think that could be remedied, but it would take some kind of mandate for an internal anonymous tip-line to allow internal reporting while protecting informant privacy. 

So, pick your poison- an additional mandate on business, or an easy out for people just looking for a pay-day?

Frankly, if businesses want to avoid this kind of thing, they can (and, I believe, should) offer their own internal bounties on this kind of thing.  Then you get the benefit of the cash (less than the government would send you, but still) AND you get the benefit of not being "strategically reassigned" to Siberia for sicking the Government Goobs on the CEO.

19 OT - Michelle Obama really loves "Common" rappers:

Michelle Obama Can't Let Criticism of Her Rapper Go
And then we had a poetry night and Common was there. He's very cute. But everybody from poet laureates to hip-hop folks, being able to mix up the world in that very interesting way, the White House allows you to do that.

20
My Presidential plank: "I say we repeal any law or executive order issued from 2009-2012"

21 Speaking of evil corporations, we all know that corporations are only too willing to ruin their customers' lives and perhaps cause their deaths by selling them dangerous and deceptive products that cannot be used for their intended purpose safely.  Their customers' lives are forfeit in pursuit of filthy lucre.  We know this because the entertainment  industry constantly portrays evil corporations doing exactly that.

The only problem is that that there is no legal industry in this country that has less respect for its customers nor is less concerned for the well being of its customers than the entertainment industry.  From gangster rap to movies glorifying criminals to a bunch of commie propaganda the entertainment industry pours poison into the veins of America's youth.

Now, where's my 300 large?

22 Hey, why not offer whistleblowers a reward AND a government job with full benefits and pension? It's an incentive to help simple citizens crack down on corporate malfeasance, right?

23
Congress shows its prowess at making rules that only serve to undermine economic growth.

Which is yet another reason this economy will never recover nor see significant expansion. What's the incentive to hire and make profits when business owners are fighting the most anti-business anti-profit administration ever?

24 Personally, I think we should call virtually every legislation the "making lawyers rich" act.

As to the Ryan plan, we just do the following: Medicare is done in 9 years. Done.  No more.  If you're on Medicare now, the Democrats want you to die before then.  They have no plan to save it, they'll put you out on the street. They also want to take money from Medicare so that they can give it to their buddies in the [NPR/NEA/unions/legal profession/other unpopular program]

25 I have ordered Ms. Obama's poetry readings books.  They are quite joyful.

26 I have ordered Ms. Obama's poetry readings books.  They are quite joyful.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 27, 2011 12:16 PM (+sBB4)

Looks like your lobotomy went well.

/

27
I'm on Kos' mailing list. I registered over there years ago and never made a post.

28 Wait, doesn't "whistleblower" sound a lot like "racist dog whistle"? I think this post should be taken down so Ace and his girlfriend, curious, don't feel all bad and icky and stuff.

29

What's up with the Scott Brown snark? He's better than Coakley, we're told. Though I can't exactly see where.

And why do the libtards come up with annoying terms like "whistle-blower"? I keep picturing a football ref making a bad call.

30
Michelle Obama Can't Let Criticism of Her Rapper Go
And then we had a poetry night and Common was there. He's very cute. But everybody from poet laureates to hip-hop folks, being able to mix up the world in that very interesting way, the White House allows you to do that.

Wow.  Everybody (of the right color) from the far left to the extreme far left was represented.  Now that's democracy in action!

31 Now that Commie rat-bastard husband of hers... that's another story.

/

32 Why are libtards always wanting to blow something?

33 The law of unintended consequences is one law even the Congress can't alter. --- Unintended, you say? Does this naivete make me look fat?

34 If it was up to me the SEC and all its attendant regulations would be disbanded and repealed. Simple laws against fraud would be enough.

As for Dodd that worthless SOB should be in jail being buggered daily by Bubba.

35 Want to protect your firm's assets from whistleblower judgements? Raise money for the Democrats...

36 I have ordered Ms. Obama's poetry readings books.  They are quite joyful.

I'm poor, not rich, and I tire.
Throw another Bush on the fire.

Yeah, keepin' hope alive.

37 #19 She is just being inclusive, as befits a First Lady of such exquisite talents.

38 qui tam actions

River Tam's younger, hotter sister's fight scenes?

39 This this thread is totally hawt!!

40

OT: Link at hotair saying perry is leaving the door open for running. I cant see him and Palin running at the same time. They are tight. I guess it'll be who announces first and sets up an org. The more the merrier in the primary. Unless your huckabee

41 Of course it will become necessary to install commissars in companies that receive a large number of complaints. It's for the good of the nation, comrades.

42 Qui whistleblowiet ipsos whistleblowers?

43 #40 Maybe they run as a package deal.

_{Slow, hanging curve ball, for anyone who wants it.}

44 I am sure the First Lady will be helping the flood victims, and the tornado victims in AL and Joplin soon.  She will bring them some needed poetry to soothe their clinging souls.  I can't wait to see photos of her in her lovely gowns.

45 Qui whistleblowiet ipsos whistleblowers?

It's turtles all the way down.

46 #42 One can watch that sort of thing for free online.

47 Slow, hanging curve ball, for anyone who wants it. Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at May 27, 2011 12:24 PM (R8y66) What, "they are tight" wasn't easy enough for you?

48 Lat: who as well. A "qui tam" action is a lawsuit under a statute, which gives to the plaintiff bringing the action a part of the penalty recovered and the balance to the state. The plaintiff describes himself as suing for the state as well as for himself.

IOW, another golden crook award for lawyers.

49 #42 One can watch that sort of thing for free online. Lots of... pop-up... ads, though.

50 >> Now, I think that could be remedied, but it would take some kind of mandate for an internal anonymous tip-line to allow internal reporting while protecting informant privacy.

It would be hard to find a public company that doesn't already do exactly this. And the anonymous tipsters have a direct line to the board of directors (usually the audit committee).

51 #49  Use cock err Ad Blocker and um...stuff like that.  If you go places like that, which I don't...of course.

52 OT

Ben,

This is a follow up to your SWAT vid. link.

Oath Keepers Rally to Honor Jose Guerena and Oppose SWAT Searches

Video has the horrific 911 call his wife made.  Damn.  Brought me to tears.

53 This Andy guy is pretty good.  He should put up more threads.

54 34 If it was up to me the SEC and all its attendant regulations would be disbanded and repealed. Simple laws against fraud would be enough.

This is why I have to laugh at Dems who blame "deregulation". The financial industry is, and has been for many years, the most regulated industry in the country, perhaps apart from nuclear energy.

55 In the nuclear industry whistle blowers were protected but not "rewarded".  In addition, in order to receive that protection they were required first to report their concerns and allegations to management and then to government authority if management ignored those findings.

I can I can tell you, those reports were taken extremely seriously by the management toads that I am familiar with.

56 So if I blow the whistle on GM and Chrysler, which are half owned by Big Gubmint, do we initiate some sort of recursive loop? Gubmint steals from citizens to give the money to GM, GM pays whistleblower fine to Gubmint, which shovels said money back into GM... It's like a black hole of fiscal stupidity.

57 I think we should have termed call the Paul Ryan Plan the "Everybody Gets a Puppy Blowjob EATS PIE Act of 2012".

Now it truly represents the morons. Win win!

58 It's turtles lawyers all the way down.

Posted by: Waterhouse at May 27, 2011 12:25 PM (jPPat)

FIFY

59 Of course the Dems blamed deregulation. They love regulation and it would kill them to have an honest investigation that assigned the blame for the real cause of the collapse.

And that would be their regulation and Dems in general that were running F&F into the ground for personal profit.

60 Wait till we hear who gets "exemptions" on this due to some bullshit "national security" excuse. You know, like General Motors, Chrysler, General Electric, Goldman Sachs, Google, Apple, and whomever else goes the "pay to play" route.

61 HA! Rush is talking about the DSK/Michelle Obama pic right now!

62  
speaking of clean and efficient nuclear energy...

Massachusetts has filed an amicus petition to join Vermont in permanently shutting down VT's Yankee Power Plant.

63 It's lawyers all the way down. FIFY Well, lawyers have hard shells, reptilian minds, and live far too long, so maybe turtles wasn't that inaccurate.

64
HA! Rush is talking about the DSK/Michelle Obama pic right now!

We are not allowed to discuss that here.

65 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 27, 2011 12:12 PM (9hSKh)

First Lady's Office Holds ‘Listen Only’ and 'Invitation Only' Conference Calls for Reporters

66

61 That's what I was going to say! "Obama clearly knew the reputation of DSK".

Sorry I missed yesterday's thread

 

67

Suck on your SOX fail bitches!!!

 

 

68 So what do whistle blowers that out the commie shit going on in the White House get, outside of destruction?

69 This Andy guy is pretty good. He should put up more threads. Bullshit. I think he has been pocketing subscription fees. I'm calling the SEC.

70 HA! Rush is talking about the DSK/Michelle Obama pic right now!

We are not allowed to discuss that here.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 27, 2011 12:36 PM (uFokq)

He mentioned it and went on to something else, just like Ace wanted

71 There's a bunch of goldbricking government "workers" I could blow the whistle on, but unfortunately there is no reward and plenty of retaliation for that.

72 I once asked Janice Rand to "blow my whistle, I'm a bad boy." It's tough to get respect from your staff officers, sometimes.

73 For the record, Andy's a fucking moron.

74 O/T - Here's the pix in case you  missed what Rush was talking about.  Read BigFur Hat's caption. 

75
/takes out wet noodle

come over here, momma, and assume the position

76 73 For the record, Andy's a fucking moron. Posted by: XBradTC at May 27, 2011 12:37 PM (0xrtx) In a good way?

77 Andy also makes a fine hostage.

78 come over here, momma, and assume the position

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 27, 2011 12:38 PM (uFokq)

That is so HOT!

79 52, I'm a member of the Oathkeepers and another related org. At some point we have to fight back. This is pushing tword third world death squads. Add in the Indiana law and we are getting to a point of no return. I pray every day for politcal victory and plan every day for the alternative.

80
I did not see the pic.

But my caption would include the words "hive" "scum" and "villainy."

81

As for Dodd that worthless SOB should be in jail being buggered daily by Bubba.

How was the universe not imploded by the blackhole created by the density of irony of the two scum most responsible for this economy daring to claim they were fixing it?

82 Perry now says he will consider running

Perry used to be a Dem (cue the "I didn't leave them, they left me" bit), but has served as a GOP governor for ten years.

Texas has a balanced budget, billions in rainy-day money in the bank, and spends less per capita then any state in the country.

Change you can believe in.

83 Massachusetts has filed an amicus petition to join Vermont in permanently shutting down VT's Yankee Power Plant.

Both of these actions are nothing more than serial ligation to drive up operating costs. The VT action was brought about to accuse the NRC of failing to take into account the Clean Water Act when granting VY a license extension. The NRC has nothing to do with enforcing the CWA. One wonders WTF MA would have to do with that. It just shows you how hog wild they can run with lawyers when you have regulations to the extent we have now.

84 Two Losers: Companies that get dragged through the mud in public because their internal control procedures are being undercut by this ill-conceived rule, and Consumers, who ultimately wind up paying for all this. Another reason to pack my shit and relocate overseas.

85

This Andy guy is pretty good. He should put up more threads.

Bl-zer prophesized Andy's coming.

86 72 I once asked Janice Rand to "blow my whistle, I'm a bad boy."

It's tough to get respect from your staff officers, sometimes. Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 27, 2011 12:37 PM

We had a jam up in the fecal disintegrator system, and one of my engineers found out that it was clogged because of a sexual assault complaint to Starfleet that for some reason never got signed by you.

It will stay lost provided that a case of Chivas Regal finds its way to my quarters every Friday.

87 >>I've prepared and signed more SEC filings than I can count So what's it worth to you for me not to blow the whistle on you?

88
One wonders WTF MA would have to do with that.

These Democrats in blue states want to shut down nukes and coal because they want to eliminate the competition for their silly (and corrupt) wind power projects.

89

It's turtles all the way down.

Okay, what's that from?  All I can think of is Disc-world, and I'm pretty sure that isn't it.

90
Why do the blue states make being a 'motorist' such a hassle?

Because they want to steer people into public transportation. The big prize (for the unions) is high speed rail.

91 It will stay lost provided that a case of Chivas Regal finds its way to my quarters every Friday. Cutting back on the drinking, Lt. Sporran-and-Kilt?

92 The bill for the absolution from white liberal guilt keeps getting bigger doesn't it.

I don't have the money to pay for any more guilt trips.

93

OT:  In the sidebar about the Marine being executed by Pima County SWAT Team and I meant what I said....executed.

 

Sheriff Dupnik is a dangerous, incompetent douchebag and should be thrown out of office ( I would prefer jail) and have the shit sued out oh him, the sheriff's department and the county.  God save us from the real morons in this country.

94

It's turtles all the way down.

Okay, what's that from?  All I can think of is Disc-world, and I'm pretty sure that isn't it.

A decent summary.  Even if it is from Wikipedia.

95 91 It will stay lost provided that a case of Chivas Regal finds its way to my quarters every Friday.

Cutting back on the drinking, Lt. Sporran-and-Kilt? Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at May 27, 2011 12:45 PM

Make that TWO cases, Capt Smart-Ass, or the surveillance video of Rand's quarters will become uncorrupted too.

96

Sheriff Dupnik is a dangerous, incompetent douchebag and should be thrown out of office ( I would prefer jail) and have the shit sued out oh him, the sheriff's department and the county.  God save us from the real morons in this country.

Posted by: mpfs at May 27, 2011 12:46 PM

It breaks the irony meter that the white leftists and La Raza are either silent or still supportive of their buddy Dupnik. Didn't they wail that if it weren't for Dumnik, the state of Arizona would impose a fascist regime with jackbooted police arresting kids for going out for ice cream without their ID?

97 You'll get one case of Chivas, and you'll like it, Lt. Hardliver McTartan. Unless you want Starfleet to mysteriously receive a "whistleblower" report of a certain engineer playing caber toss with the quartermaster's bookkeeping and the price of dilithium crystals.

98 Posted by: Andy at May 27, 2011 12:28 PM (5Rurq)

This is the problem, though.  The companies that take these things seriously would never have been the problem.  It's the companies that don't (or, probably slightly more often) when the person involved is a high-level employee and the company decides that it would "look bad" if the bad behavior was openly acknowledged.

And I grant that such things are rare- but they do happen.  Thus: needing some kind of law.  Now, I tend to side with those who say "we already had plenty of regulations, how 'bout we just enforce those?" but, if you are going to set up special legislation to protect whistle-blowers (I'm of two minds about that), you have to acknowledge that, if they're bringing it to the Gov't in the first place, they believe their employer is breaking the law.  Given that they believe their employer is already a criminal, why wouldn't they believe that the employer would break any laws against retaliation?

It's kind of in the same category as "gun free zones."  Anyone who has decided to kill people isn't going to be dissuaded by one.  Well, it is not at all hard to believe that someone who has decided to embezzle money would not be dissuaded from firing an employee just because the law says they can't.

99 "A campaign to recall Michigan Governor Rick Snyder is underway. If 806,522 valid petition signatures are submitted to the Michigan Secretary of State before August 5, then Snyder will face a recall election in November. With an approval rate hovering around 30%, he'd be in big trouble."

10,000 sunrises is all we humans get, give or take.

10,000 chances to clamor for ruinous fiscal policies, pursue quasi-legal actions to get our infantile way, and drive businesses from our state. To enjoy the clean lonely howl of the wind blowing through abandoned factories, stores, and office buildings. To watch the unemployment claims stack as high as an elephant's eye, and shuffle in sullen silence through breadlines and the halfway houses of the indigent poor.

Pure liberalism. Pure insanity.

Pure Michigan.

100

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 27, 2011 12:47 PM (GBXon)

Thanks.  I feel a little better since Discworld did get mentioned at the end, including a version of the quote.

101 99, A tragic soliloquy, beautifully written.

102

First Lady's Office Holds ‘Listen Only’ and 'Invitation Only' Conference Calls for Reporters

Congress should defund the First Lady's office completely. 

103

Like with anything the Obama administration does these days, the best way to understand it is to identify the winners and losers.

That's a good way of looking at it. Another way is is through the lens of that adage, "Uncle Sam is your partner."

At the risk of some of my conservative street cred, I always used to think this. I believed it more strongly the older I got. That all changed in February 2009. Now, I see the government as a sponsor, a customer, an employer, a competitor, an obstacle, an adversary, -- anything except a partner.

I guess that's to be expected when we have a government that does everything except govern.

104 20 My Presidential plank: "I say we repeal any law or executive order issued from 2009-2012" Tame it back to 2000 and you've got my vote.

105 @101- Actually, it was a piss take on an ad campaign put out by the Michigan Tourist Board. Do a youtube search on "Pure Michigan".

106

Actually, it was a piss take on an ad campaign put out by the Michigan Tourist Board. Do a youtube search on "Pure Michigan".

You signed your post Chariots of Toast but I heard Brian McNamara's voice wile reading it.

107

18 But, but, but... Retaliation!!!!

Really, I've been at a lot of companies where heads butted (over things that wouldn't get someone thrown in jail) and I have never, ever seen a true case of Retaliation.  Which is not to say that they don't exist, just that they're a lot more rare than some would have us believe. ...

Well, what exactly are the stories of retaliation?

I put in an ethics complaint against my boss, who was reassigned because of it (where he wasn't in charge of anybody any more), and then I was persona non gratis with management until finally being laid off. This same outfit had me assigned in a way where they were charging the govt a high rate for me to do the job of a summer intern - on a "cost plus" job. Which means they were running up the tab, and ripping off the govt, instead of having me sitting around doing nothing (if you can image, these clowns were lacking for business). I would have blown them in, but I wondered if I could end up blacklisted.

I've seen genuinely crooked things practically every place I've worked. Sometimes people report things, and nothing happenes to them, but it seems like if it involves them being the direct victim of unethical action by a member of management that it ends badly for them.

108 You signed your post Chariots of Toast but I heard Brian McNamara's voice wile reading it.

Thought Tim Allen did the voiceovers for Pure Michigan ads?

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