November 12, 2011
— andy #OccupyEndZone will be on my TV tonight, but if you're interested, there's a foreign policy debate on CBS tonight at 8pm Eastern.
Also, word on Twitter is that the Denver police are cracking down on Occupy Denver, so Ace, Gabe and the rest of the BlogCon attendees should have some good stories.
Helpful suggestion for Denver P.D. below the fold.
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Posted by: alexthechick at November 12, 2011 03:42 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: Jimmah at November 12, 2011 03:42 PM (fJM+V)
-a fool
-a flip flopper
-to dumb to be president
-lying/pandering
youtube
http://tinyurl.com/7ddxq5x
Posted by: Shiggz Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:43 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 03:45 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: poljunkie at November 12, 2011 03:45 PM (XuiJf)
NYT link
http://tinyurl.com/7g58k9v
Posted by: Shiggz Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:46 PM (I9fXA)
Posted by: Joe S at November 12, 2011 03:46 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 03:46 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: poljunkie at November 12, 2011 03:46 PM (XuiJf)
Decent probably wont save him.
Probably not.
But doing great would.
He is so articulate, earnest and likable in his interviews.
I just with that would come through tonight.
What he has done in Texas he could do for the whole US.
That is why I would like for him to win the nomination.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 03:48 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: poljunkie at November 12, 2011 03:49 PM (XuiJf)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 03:50 PM (oMY/5)
Since they (the MFM) said she was a Democrat, they didn't have to follow up with any more details!
Posted by: Hrothgar 4 Perry/Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:50 PM (i3+c5)
Why we allow Republican debates to be run by hard-core leftards is beyond me. The friggin' Democrats aren't that dumb.
We all know what the reactions will be: Even if Mutt Romney whips out his schlong and pees on the other candidates, he'll be "smooth," "polished," "presidential" and "inevitable."
Rick Perry will be a fumbling loser, no matter what he does. Ditto for Herman Cain.
Ron Paul will be crazy. So will Bachman, but she has nicer boobehs than Ron Paul.
Rick Sanitarium and Stanley Huntsman will be losers.
That is all.
Except to say that Osama Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 12, 2011 03:52 PM (HkOAc)
It has to be hard for Perry to realize that regardless of his record, because he isn't the king of the 30 second soundbite answers he will probably not get the nomination.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 03:53 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: Triumph the insult comic dog at November 12, 2011 03:53 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 03:53 PM (i6RpT)
Perry will pick a Saturday Night when no one is watching to have a gaffe free debate.
Newt's Callista mentions will be under 2.
Cain, will get me really fud up in the 999 drinking game.
Santorum will look more douchtastic than usual. I mean it's Saturday night for chrissakes. I'll feel weird seeing him tonight.
Bachmann will make me want to throw my support to Marge Simpson.
Huntsman's daughters are hot
Mittens will make Jeff B's gina tingle.
Buddy Roemer will make my gina tingle.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 03:54 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Herman "One Note" Cain at November 12, 2011 03:54 PM (GULKT)
We don't call our establishment RINO buds the stupid party for no reason at all.
Posted by: Hrothgar 4 Perry/Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:54 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 03:55 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Herman "One Note" Cain at November 12, 2011 07:54 PM (GULKT)
No, Herman, the answer tonight is Nein, Nein, Nein to show off those multi-lingual chops!!
Posted by: Hrothgar 4 Perry/Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:55 PM (i3+c5)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 03:56 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 03:56 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 07:56 PM (Qjh0I)
We--? Who is this we you speak of?
Posted by: Hrothgar 4 Perry/Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:57 PM (i3+c5)
Is there really tear gas in Denver? Damn, we get more Third World every day
You should see Cinco De Mayo in Denver!
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 03:58 PM (+97oS)
30Is there really tear gas in Denver? Damn, we get more Third World every day.
----
Its the only thing proven to negate the smell of those dirty hippies.
Posted by: Jimmah at November 12, 2011 03:59 PM (fJM+V)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 03:59 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Hrothgar 4 Perry/Newt 2012 at November 12, 2011 07:54 PM
Jeebus Crisco, I forgot to put The Newt in my in-depth, penetrating analysis.
All I can say is: the commenters at Tepid Air are fapping like mad over Newt the wonder Dog. He's the perfect Ed "Poppin' Fresh" Morrissey candidate (now that T-Paw bailed). I'd take him over Romney, but prefer him as he is, which is a sender of give-me-money emails and a guy who knows where (at Sean Hannity's show, of course) to get his knob polished.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (HkOAc)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Skunks at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (i6RpT)
Bheir me o, o horo ho
Sad am I, without thee.
Beautiful.
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (Czjwt)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:00 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:01 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:01 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:01 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: NfromNC at November 12, 2011 04:02 PM (MbeEN)
Saturday Night Fever or the debate? Hmmm
I guess I'll go with the debate. Mittens is a great tap dancer at least.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 04:02 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:02 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:03 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:03 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:03 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:04 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:04 PM (6K81O)
Dood, even 10 hits of 60's vintage blotter couldn't erase my nausea.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 12, 2011 04:04 PM (Czjwt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:04 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:04 PM (6K81O)
Newt 2012
Because its time we got a potus whose first name sounds like "nude"! We are all Newtists now!
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:05 PM (P/F96)
CBS Moderator: Our first question will be answered by each candidate and they will have thirty seconds in which to answer,
"The President is trying to save America AND the entire world; Why do you oppose that?"
Posted by: Mark Steyn at November 12, 2011 04:05 PM (lpWVn)
Bachmann looks......uh... nevermind.
And yeah! Santorum looks like a stuffed shirt.
Cain, yellow tie as usual.
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 04:05 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Bob Ronulan Saget at November 12, 2011 04:05 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:05 PM (FY+2h)
1948...Roswell crash, Israel founded....hmmmmm.
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 04:06 PM (cBVAS)
Posted by: Mark Steyn at November 12, 2011 04:06 PM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:06 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:06 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 08:05 PM (FY+2h)
I hear the guy say the first hour is going to be on tv, and the full thing is available online.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (GULKT)
BTDT, the last election. The Paultards are quite adept at packing audiences for the media.
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (Czjwt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Purple Avenger at November 12, 2011 08:00 PM (Czjwt)
--Have you ever tried to eat an upside-down pizza? That's hellish.
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2011 04:07 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Palandine at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (g7D8V)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Bob Ronulan Saget at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (dBvlk)
Probably blimped them in.
Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (cBVAS)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:08 PM (FY+2h)
Right Romney, if the Ayathollas see your phony grin in the Rose Garden, they will immediately stop their nuke program.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:09 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:09 PM (niZvt)
God I hate the moderators in every debate. I get it. You want to keep them around 30-60 seconds, but let them finish their thoughts
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:09 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:09 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:09 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:10 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:10 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:10 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (6K81O)
Ron Paul. Everything in life is easy. I wish I could live in Ron Paul's world in which everything is simple.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Holger at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (zaVyn)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:11 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Ron! Paul! at November 12, 2011 04:12 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 04:12 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:12 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:12 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:13 PM (6K81O)
Perry: Strong tie, strong answer.
Gaffe free. Tell War to get used to a VP Jindal?
(Yeah, I'm ust baiting at this point)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 04:13 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:13 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:13 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Ron Paulpatine at November 12, 2011 04:13 PM (cBVAS)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Andy at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (XG+Mn)
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: Rick Perry at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (oCMdU)
Our company frequently refers to what great interviewers so and so new hires have been. They continue to believe that pop quizzes are indicative of intelligence and skill.
Most of those new hires don't last 2 years because they have oversold themselves in their interviews.
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Delta Smelt at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (+97oS)
Posted by: Rick Santorum at November 12, 2011 04:14 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:15 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:15 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:15 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:15 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:15 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 04:16 PM (EL+OC)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:16 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 12, 2011 04:17 PM (mZg6B)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 12, 2011 04:17 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:17 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:17 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:17 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (oMY/5)
sheesh, he is a Dem plant after all
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 12, 2011 04:18 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:19 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:19 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 12, 2011 04:19 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:20 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 12, 2011 04:20 PM (xWkom)
Peace through Victory! That is the answer.
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:20 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at November 12, 2011 08:20 PM (hXJOG)
I'm timing. He was under a minute.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:20 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 04:20 PM (cBVAS)
Posted by: Mitt Romney For Senior Class President at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (lNGfM)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (mZg6B)
And of course, Cain is cribbing off of Newt's answer.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:21 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 12, 2011 04:22 PM (I49Jm)
I love Newts condescending tone towards the moderators.
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:22 PM (D0Svx)
WTF did Cain just say???? I understand those words, they are English, but they made no sense in the order they were said in.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (oMY/5)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:23 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: Rick Perry at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (I49Jm)
How would a Newt VP impact the view of a Romney ticket?
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: chas at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (xAq1C)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:24 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:25 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 12, 2011 04:25 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:25 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Michele Bachmann at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (oCMdU)
Perry's good before he winds down..lol
I sometimes have that problem too. I keep talking after I've made my point. It's hard to stop sometimes.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 12, 2011 04:26 PM (mZg6B)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:27 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:27 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:27 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:27 PM (niZvt)
You may as well start reconciling yourself to Huntsman: if we crap out next year, it'll Be His Turn in 2016. You can just see that one coming.
uhh let's hope not. I like the idea of pulling out of A-stan and just bombing the fuck out of them at will, but then again I never served and no nothing.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (i6RpT)
I just feel so bad for Perry. I really really liked Perry. Shit why does he suck at speaking. God
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:28 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (oCMdU)
If we lose this time around, 2016 will be too late. If, however, the democracy is still in place, 2016 would see a Rubio or Rand run. Perhaps Rick Scott.
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (piMMO)
No, no, no... Pakistan doesn't have to be a "friend" of the US just because they have nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Rick Santorum at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: spypeach at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (hyUyU)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:29 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Andy Bernard at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (v85We)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 08:29 PM (Qjh0I)
OMG, you nailed it.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (FY+2h)
Well, that's an improvement over the marching band she had to meet up with after a prior debate.
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 04:30 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 08:29 PM (D0Svx)
Obama doesn't have any baggage, just ask the Media. But Newt has baggage up the wazoo, just ask the media.
Posted by: Holger at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (zaVyn)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: willow at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: Jimbo at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: nickless, back with the banned (99.174.64.43) at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (cBVAS)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 04:31 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: BSR at November 12, 2011 04:32 PM (BH4RQ)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 04:32 PM (oMY/5)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:32 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: dagny at November 12, 2011 04:32 PM (zcH1d)
Unfucking believable!
Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC
Wow, don't we already have the smartest guy in the room is also a Dick? He resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
I want these two to go head to head. It should be on pay-per-view.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:32 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (niZvt)
Who does Rick Santorum appeal to?
I don't get it. I see who Paul is appealing to, same with Romney, Perry, Newt, Cain and to a lesser extent Bachmann and Huntsman.
But Santorum?
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (hC5jI)
Some months ago I sent an email to Rick Perry's office, "Your Country is calling you, Sir".
Now all I can think of is "Thank you for your resume".
My cat, Prissy, understands more and is more trainable in domestic and foreign affairs than Rick Perry.
Crap.
Posted by: Doug S at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (bGgEi)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (6K81O)
Newt in a debate with Obama: "Mr President, my academic records are open for everyone to see. In fact I'm very proud of them. What possible reason could you (unlike any other president or candidate in history) have, to seal yours?"
End of the personal baggage meme.
NEWT!!!!
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:33 PM (LnQhT)
Oh and CBS sucks big green diseased Obama dicks.
Posted by: Bob Saget is ready to change the channel at November 12, 2011 04:34 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: willow at November 12, 2011 04:34 PM (h+qn8)
Yea, but can Newt really win? I'm not so sure. I chose Newt before everybody until Perry, then Perry imploded, so I went back to Newt.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:34 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: dagny at November 12, 2011 08:32 PM (zcH1d)
he doesnt suck at speaking, he sucks at debates. his speeches and interviews are money,
Posted by: chas at November 12, 2011 04:34 PM (xAq1C)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:34 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Andy Bernard at November 12, 2011 04:35 PM (v85We)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:35 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:35 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (i6RpT)
I'm voting for the philandering dickhead.
He's smart.
If I were choosing a boss, I'd pick Herman. Love to go drinking with that dude.
Posted by: stickety at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (FUDwf)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (UR5vq)
"surround yourself w/ the right people" so explain mark block??
Posted by: chas at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (xAq1C)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (nw06r)
Posted by: grognard at November 12, 2011 04:36 PM (xMJlE)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (i6RpT)
I hate that everyone says Newt isn't electable, But He's the only one that can articulate the problems and resolutions.
The problem is that the Newt you see isn't the real Newt. It's a show.
Most of us remember the real Newt in 1996 and 1998. He's an egotist. He's a mean person and he's no very good at executive type positions.
He's a good speaker as are most Senators and Congresspeople. It's what they do. They talk. Governors do.
That's why Governors make better Presidents.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Cooper at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (55LLq)
From The Office:
Santorum = Michael Scott
Ron Paul = Creed
Michele Bachmann = Angela
Newt = Dwight Schrute
Mitt = Toby Flenderson
Cain = Stanley Hudson
Perry = Andy Bernard
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Herbs Cainfusion at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Rick Santorum at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:37 PM (i6RpT)
well it's pretty clear who has a command of the issues and who doesn't. The question is, can we all get behind him, in spite of his screw ups?
Newt/ ?
Posted by: spypeach at November 12, 2011 04:38 PM (hyUyU)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:38 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:38 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:38 PM (6K81O)
Santorum
Posted by: grognard at November 12, 2011 04:38 PM (xMJlE)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (ZHPDT)
Perry going away and the morons are taking NEWT!
A leap of faith!
i want to see Newt on the bench for either Perry or Romney.
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: NfromNC at November 12, 2011 08:02 PM (MbeEN)
Looks like you were wrong.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:39 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Hermain Caine at November 12, 2011 04:40 PM (3OB8J)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:40 PM (niZvt)
Imagine a Biden v. Newt debate.
Posted by: Eric Cartman at November 12, 2011 04:40 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Bob Saget is ready to change the channel at November 12, 2011 04:40 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 04:40 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: grognard at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (xMJlE)
I don't really care if he's a dick or not, to be honest. I'd rather work with a brilliant asshole than a dumbass nice guy.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Twinklemier at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (14jKX)
omg. Cain it's a fucking Democratic Republic. You're not running to be side kick to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. You will have to make decisions.
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:41 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Jimbo at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (O3R/2)
Posted by: Skookumchuk at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (btzPD)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:42 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Cooper at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (55LLq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Hermain Caine at November 12, 2011 08:40 PM
At least Newt didn't seal his academic records
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Hermain Caine at November 12, 2011 04:43 PM (3OB8J)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Hollowpoint at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (mZg6B)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (6K81O)
And of course, Ron Paul gets the concept of waterboarding wrong. We never waterboarded every detainee, sir, or came even close to do so!
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (nw06r)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:44 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Truman North at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Mr. Mackey at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 12, 2011 04:45 PM (nw06r)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:46 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 12, 2011 08:45 PM (nw06r)
EVERYBODY just waits until they ask Newt a question
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:46 PM (D0Svx)
No you're not the only one who just waits now for a Newt question.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:46 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 04:46 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:47 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:47 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:47 PM (6K81O)
Newt speaks the fucking law! Tell'em Newt!
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:47 PM (oCMdU)
18
Another "debate" for me to miss!
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 12, 2011 07:52 PM (HkOAc)
I’m not watching either – can catch the high-lights tomorrow by certain bloggers susceptible to “whisper campaigns” who will expound over how candidate ‘x’ pooched it by using a common word in the most common meaning.
Posted by: Romney Voter at November 12, 2011 04:47 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: Bob Saget is ready to change the channel at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (6K81O)
Funny how every question-- even the ones from the internet- are from far-left liberals.
Well, no, not funny. Typical.
Posted by: Truman North at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (I2LwF)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (gYySJ)
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (eHIJJ)
Crikes, is the fucking GOP stupid??
I'll repeat it one more time: Mainstream media is nothing more than the propaganda arm of the Democrat Party. If you want to debate, do it where the forum and the moderators have nothing to do with the mainstream media.
Posted by: Blacque Jacques Shellacque at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (9r32i)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Mr. Mackey at November 12, 2011 08:45 PM (piMMO)
Rand may actually be as bad as his daddy, just more cautious and with less baggage, because he has no trackrecord yet.
Posted by: Herbs Cainfusion at November 12, 2011 04:48 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (6K81O)
He got hardly any of the Contract with America into law. He completely undermined the fight against Clinton and put our entire movement in jeopardy by: 1.) having an affair and making himself vulnerable to intimidation by the Dems (and it's always been a hunch of mine this actually happened) and 2.) breaking in the budget fight just when polls were starting to go our way, acceding to increased spending, and robbing the Republicans of any claim to be the party of small government.
It's like an dysfunctional relationship where you know your ex-boyfriend is going to cheat on you; he has always cheated on you in the past; but he keeps talking a good game, so you keep going back.
That said... everybody else sucks so bad, I'm actively considering it.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 08:48 PM (UvdzB)
Imagine Newt pummeling Barry in a debate.
Any questions?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (D0Svx)
I have alot of Newt's quasi history books, now if I just had time to read time all, I could give you a review.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Hermain Caine at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (0eGys)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:49 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: jjshaka at November 12, 2011 04:50 PM (nw06r)
Posted by: Bob Saget is ready to change the channel at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (dBvlk)
How about a Perry/Gingrich slate? I would be sooo down with that.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (D0Svx)
Until he reveals himself as such, I will continue to adore him. He is far more skilled than even Newt at piping an opponent. He does it in such a way that he sticks them and still looks like a nice guy while doing it.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:51 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Trucker from Southpark at November 12, 2011 04:52 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:52 PM (D0Svx)
I'll give Newt a pass on the couch deal, cause there are a lot of people who were fooled by the global warming bullshit and he was probably trying to be likeable or something.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:52 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 04:52 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jon Huntsman at November 12, 2011 04:52 PM (I49Jm)
As would I. I even think he'd make Romney more palatable for many.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (i6RpT)
Huntsman just fucking rambling. Why is he there?
The Republican Commander in Chief debate? What?
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (6K81O)
Romney/Huntsman...yawn. Did that fuck answer a question just then?
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: The Chinese Hung Lo Masses at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (niZvt)
Nice tie, Elton.
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (Qjh0I)
Yeah, I don't trust him even one little bit. He can prove me wrong, and I hope he does. Had he denounced that fuckin' nutjob from whose loins he sprang, that would have gone a long way with me, but he's out there campaigning for him. So, no, Rand, you need to get off my lawn.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 04:53 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (6K81O)
Not the people who were paying attention.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: lauren at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 08:53 PM (6K81O)
Goats and such...
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (dBvlk)
Rand ALSO knows his daddy doesn't have a shot in hell.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Willy at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (eoZuM)
He's got Ron's isolationist tendencies without the goofy bullshit about silver dimes and antisemitism
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:54 PM (6K81O)
I'll give Newt a pass on the couch deal, cause there are a lot of people who were fooled by the global warming bullshit and he was probably trying to be likeable or something.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 08:52 PM (ZHPDT)
I actually really liked the explanation he gave on Fox the other day. In short, you can still be an extreme right-wing terrorist and recycle.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 04:55 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 04:55 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:55 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:55 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 04:55 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 12, 2011 04:56 PM (gYySJ)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:56 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Hermain Caine at November 12, 2011 04:56 PM (0eGys)
Jesus fucking Christ. Why is aid to Israel always a question at these debates??
(As a jew I know the answer, but I'm getting tired of it.)
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:56 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (oCMdU)
Please?! With a cherry on top!
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Steff McKee at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (XNQh3)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Mindy at November 12, 2011 04:57 PM (Is5Ig)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: logprof (for the benefit of those watching the debate) at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (LnQhT)
They could sell tickets to the morning press briefings.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 04:58 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (I49Jm)
The moderators are horrendous
Actually, major garrett is alright. Scott Pelley is a dick "It's the rule of law"
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 08:57 PM (Qjh0I)
He did that as a twitter reference because the question came from twitter.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 04:59 PM (GULKT)
I realize we have to pick one and I guess I'll coming to terms with that fact, but let's just go into it with open eyes and not gloss over that fact.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: William Amos at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (HcYmo)
Where is the rest of it playing?
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (piMMO)
I'm still holding out from Rumsfeld.
Posted by: AnonymousDrivel at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (eHIJJ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (oMY/5)
Posted by: Lincolntf at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (Qjh0I)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:00 PM (6K81O)
Romney, Gingrich at GOP debate: We'd go to war to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Mindy at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (Is5Ig)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:01 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 08:59 PM (FY+2h)
I'm all over that.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 09:01 PM (7vA7k)
sucks big time. all herky and jerky
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:02 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:03 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 05:03 PM (qNqsS)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 12, 2011 05:03 PM (gYySJ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:03 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:03 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Herman Cain at November 12, 2011 05:04 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 05:04 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: dr kill at November 12, 2011 05:04 PM (le5qc)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 05:04 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:04 PM (piMMO)
Daughter Cheney. She has the same effect, and gets lots of exposure so she can become the first female president.
Her, or Empire of Jeff.
Posted by: MissTammy hates hippies and is none too crazy about debates, either at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (3inkD)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (D0Svx)
That so so hot.
I'd actually pay for that.
And to watch him decimate Barry in a debate.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: logprof (for the benefit of those watching the debate) at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Willy at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (eoZuM)
Donald Trump could beat BO - maybe he'll ride in and save the country in the end.
Posted by: Heartlandvoter at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (AkFx3)
Posted by: Chris at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (FMjOm)
Posted by: lauren at November 12, 2011 05:05 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 09:04 PM (piMMO)
I'm on CBS and it sucks
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:06 PM (D0Svx)
Jesus, you're going to have the last 30 minutes online and you can't have a fucking functioning feed?
I feel like I am ordering at the drive throught at a fast food joint
Posted by: Ben at November 12, 2011 05:06 PM (UvdzB)
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 05:06 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: sunny black at November 12, 2011 05:06 PM (0dyYY)
Posted by: Exile on Wall Street ePub at November 12, 2011 05:06 PM (BtIhb)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 09:05 PM (6K81O)
Sites that use a "quality" determination for live feeds are much better. I'd rather have a reduced quality of the video than to have it choppy and freezing every second.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (GULKT)
You can't be serious. I think it's entirely possible that Trump is a sleeper agent for the left.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (i6RpT)
Ooooo, yes, I love her!
And, whoever said it (sorry), let's just show Huntsman, Santorum, Bachmann and Paul the door. And, as far as I'm concerned, they can take Cain with them. Time to cut the shit and get down to brass tacks.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (FY+2h)
Obama doesn't have any baggage, just ask the Media. But Newt has baggage up the wazoo, just ask the media.
Posted by: Holger at November 12, 2011 08:31 PM (zaVyn)
I'd rather let Newt ask Obama AND the media- during the debate.
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:07 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:08 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Willy at November 12, 2011 05:08 PM (eoZuM)
What a bunch of assholes.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:08 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:08 PM (6K81O)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:09 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 05:09 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: lowandslow at November 12, 2011 05:09 PM (GZitp)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:09 PM (D0Svx)
People never learn, grow or repent?
Ronald Reagan come to mind?
Posted by: JB at November 12, 2011 05:09 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: CBS News at November 12, 2011 05:10 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 05:10 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: nevergiveup at November 12, 2011 05:10 PM (i6RpT)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:10 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:11 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:11 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: sunny black at November 12, 2011 05:11 PM (0dyYY)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:11 PM (enpXK)
Both feeds suck ass. I've moved onto watching the first season of the Walking Dead since I missed it.
Later all.
Posted by: jaimo at November 12, 2011 05:11 PM (ZHPDT)
Posted by: steevy at November 12, 2011 05:12 PM (7WJOC)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:12 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:12 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (6K81O)
“His focus was disrupted and some emotion was conjured up, and that emotion took the place of whatever he was trying to process in his brain,” Miller said. “Maybe it was a look on Ron Paul’s face, or maybe it was just the sight of Ron Paul in general. I don’t know.”"
LOLOL the sight of Ron Paul certainly flips a mental switch in my brain. The switch labeled DO NOT WANT.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: Holly at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (nqctR)
Posted by: lauren at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: Bob Saget at November 12, 2011 05:13 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:14 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: alexthechick at November 12, 2011 05:14 PM (Gk3SS)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:14 PM (enpXK)
You know you were all thinking it......
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:14 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:14 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 09:13 PM (UR5vq)
MUCH BETTER thanks.
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:15 PM (7vA7k)
And, yeah, Shrimp, Perry is looking very smokin' tonight and I think he's acquitting himself very well. Certainly compared to his previous performances.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:15 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:15 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Romney. at November 12, 2011 05:15 PM (VKD8C)
Lowered expectations will serve him well.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:16 PM (piMMO)
Sorry, but Perry reminds me of Al Gore in 2000, when he tried all these different personalities in the debates against Bush.
Btw: Willard, your smile is creepy and the height of insincerity.
Posted by: Elize Nayden at November 12, 2011 05:16 PM (P/F96)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 09:13 PM (UR5vq)
Much better. Thanks!
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:16 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:17 PM (ZDUD4)
Imagine Newt pummeling conservatives after he's elected!!!!!!!!!!
Any Questions?????
Posted by: Concealed Kerry or Submit at November 12, 2011 09:15 PM (tHnoW)
How's Barry been working out for you?
Any questions?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:17 PM (D0Svx)
It's working fine for me and I'm on FF.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:18 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:18 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:18 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: My Friend Michael epub at November 12, 2011 05:19 PM (7wLtR)
Imagine Newt pummeling Barry in a debate.
Any questions?
Imagine Newt pummeling conservatives after he's elected!!!!!!!!!!
Any Questions?????Yeah. Go back to that boyfriend comment earlier in the thread. ALL of them will eventually betray us one way or another, sooner or later.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:19 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 12, 2011 05:19 PM (gYySJ)
Good stream, not choppy at all.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 05:19 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (D0Svx)
I think she is attending a cotillion after the debate.
Or maybe a debutante ball.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 05:20 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Mac at November 12, 2011 05:21 PM (HVq21)
Hey, stop calling Ron Paul an idiot.
It is clear he's on the autism spectrum. It's not nice to make fun of the mentally challenged.
Posted by: JB at November 12, 2011 05:21 PM (7T+Mz)
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2011 05:21 PM (FcR7P)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 12, 2011 05:21 PM (gYySJ)
I didn't realize that Bachman had a lazy eye. Crazy eyes, yes, but lazy crazy.
Cain is sucking. It's clear that he doesn't know jack about foreign policy. I guess if he can't work 9-9-9 into a conversation, he doesn't have anything smart to say.
Posted by: Havedash at November 12, 2011 05:21 PM (JfvbF)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 05:22 PM (UR5vq)
Victory is when you kick the shit out of the other guy and he is dead. Seems pretty clearly defined to me, Herman.
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:22 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:22 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:22 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:23 PM (ZDUD4)
OTOH, Gingrich will let you know that he's the smartest person in the room, and then, if he doesn't like you, will publicly humiliate you.
Posted by: shibumi at November 12, 2011 05:23 PM (z63Tr)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 05:24 PM (NadeK)
its a trick question
thats apples and oranges
i misspoke
i didnt understand the question
perry's campaign did it
9-9-9
Posted by: Herb Cain at November 12, 2011 05:24 PM (xAq1C)
With the economy and unemployment where they are now, I'm guessing network news might be the only news some folks are getting these days. At least they now have the occasional opportunity to see a debate.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:24 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Rick Santorum at November 12, 2011 05:24 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:24 PM (NadeK)
Little early to be doin' crack ain't it?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:24 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: elizabethe at November 12, 2011 05:25 PM (gYySJ)
He could be planning a new one!
Posted by: Dick Cheney at November 12, 2011 05:25 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:25 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (oCMdU)
And it's still going on?
But not on TV?
Huh.
So how's Perry done tonight?
He still boned?
Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (F79HU)
Joe Six Crack:
You're a racist a$$hole - and an imbecile.
Posted by: stickety at November 12, 2011 09:25 PM (FUDwf)
Nahn Nahn Nahn
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (D0Svx)
Newt only does well in a friendly audience. Obama would utterly devastate him in a balanced audience.
hahahahaha
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 09:22 PM (loM0R)
You know, I thought the Perry campaign idea of how they might sit out some of the debates was a horrible idea. Then I heard that there were 5-6 more debates before Iowa, and it sounded less bad.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:26 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: robtr at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Huntsman at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: lauren at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: logprof (for the benefit of those watching the debate) at November 12, 2011 05:27 PM (QaKuj)
Except Rummy did it in a satirical manner.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:28 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: tdpwells at November 12, 2011 05:28 PM (7vA7k)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:28 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: sunny black at November 12, 2011 05:28 PM (0dyYY)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:28 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: logprof (for the benefit of those watching the debate) at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:24 PM (NadeK)
This is the key sign that Newt is back--the Democrats switch back to not liking him.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (enpXK)
Obama wasn't particularly impressive in debates.
McCain was fricking awful, so I guess that made Obama look good.
Newt would be the PERFECT guy to debate Obama. He would piss off that arrogant dunce in about two seconds. And when Obama gets angry, he lets his petulant stupidity shine through.
Posted by: stickety at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (FUDwf)
Posted by: Shockaholic Audiobook at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (xR+oi)
Much improved.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 09:27 PM (piMMO)
That's good.
Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (F79HU)
Posted by: sunny black at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (0dyYY)
Posted by: Freddie Mac at November 12, 2011 05:29 PM (z0HdK)
How many stammering uhms ahs ohs and uhmmm uhs would Barry have to use just to keep Newt from destroying him?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:30 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 05:30 PM (UR5vq)
Oh joy.
They'll be able to slice and dice the rest of it for their own benefit and few people are around to witness what is really being said.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 05:30 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:30 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 09:29 PM (enpXK)
--Don't let the name fool you. It's ironic and stuff; dum-dum agrees with 60% of our policies so he's one of us!
Posted by: logprof (for the benefit of those watching the debate) at November 12, 2011 05:30 PM (QaKuj)
Newt rocked it.
Newt has rocked them all. He MUST be the VP. I'm imagining the sadistic pleasure of a Newt / Slow Joe debate.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:31 PM (GTbGH)
If any of them gave a strategy you'd be complaining that they were stupid to give too much info to the dems.
This was like walking a tight rope. And, boo on CBS and the National Journal.....where were the female moderators and could they have pulled Governor Haley in to ask a question too???? What they did was highlight that Michelle Bachman is the only female candidate.
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:31 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Willy at November 12, 2011 05:31 PM (eoZuM)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 05:31 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: willow at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (h+qn8)
Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (PYxvn)
Posted by: robtr at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: Bob Saget expert girlfriend fellator at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (dBvlk)
Newt rocked it.
Newt has rocked them all. He MUST be the VP. I'm imagining the sadistic pleasure of a Newt / Slow Joe debate.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 09:31 PM (GTbGH)
You're saying he's seen a million faces, and he's rocked them all?
Posted by: Jon Bon Jovi at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (QaKuj)
I know, huh? Why did they even ask the fuckin' question? Governor Perry, your answer? Oh, I think . . . Hey, shut the fuck up, time's over. Clowns.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:32 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: stickety at November 12, 2011 05:33 PM (FUDwf)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:33 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Perrybot at November 12, 2011 05:33 PM (oCMdU)
Posted by: Hvy Mtl Hntr at November 12, 2011 05:33 PM (JyF4j)
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 09:32 PM (xeVap)
I think you might be right.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:33 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 09:22 PM (loM0R)
And on the UFC, Dos Santos is coming out to the Rocky Theme.
It was more awesome when one fighter came out like Apollo Creed though.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:34 PM (GULKT)
We all assume Newt would kick Obama's tail in a debate, right? And I'd love to see it. But YOU JUST KNOW Obama and the MSM will find some way to gum up the works.
They'll make it all 30 second responses.
They lighting will make Newt look bad.
It'll be ALL leftist commentators, and they'll all get snippy with Gingrich. Gingrich will get snippy back, and then the meme will be: "Newt Gingrich or Grinch?" "Obama Soars With Positivity and Reaganesque Optimism to Gingrich's Mean Old Man Routine"..
There will be no Lincoln-Douglas debates. There will be maybe 2 debates (because Obama is sooooo busy and can barely focus his time).. Gingrich won't get the chance to shine like you assume he will. Obama won't allow it.
Posted by: sunny black at November 12, 2011 05:34 PM (0dyYY)
It was the first Mondale debate where he struggled
Posted by: The Q at November 12, 2011 05:34 PM (LnQhT)
Posted by: Winning at November 12, 2011 05:35 PM (80nuu)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at November 12, 2011 05:35 PM (ZDUD4)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 05:35 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at November 12, 2011 05:35 PM (UR5vq)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 05:36 PM (oMY/5)
Cain is a dunce. I still think he made it in the business world due to factors other than his intelligence.
Perry did great. I loved his quick retort, "me too" in reference to him having thought about his brain fart last week. That was really good. I was hoping to hear him say he supported waterboarding because those damn terrorist, not unlike the OWS hippies, could stand a little bit of water!
Posted by: Havedash at November 12, 2011 05:36 PM (JfvbF)
He always tried to refer back to the prior question rather than answer the one asked of him. I think his mind is to slow to think on the spot, so he can only answer questions given a 1minute lag time.
Romney was polished as usual. And Huntsman showed thoughtfulness.
Bachman showed some knowledge but nothing more. Newt's stupid bash the moderators while playing kumaya with the other candidates is getting old...and lame...much like himself.
Cain was mediocre.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 05:36 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 05:36 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: John Edwards at November 12, 2011 05:36 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at November 12, 2011 05:37 PM (21lBC)
Would you like to come over for a beer sound thrashing?
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:37 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:37 PM (loM0R)
You should. Independents such as myself will ultimately decide who goes to 1600 pennsylvania ave. And if you don't elect romney or huntsman, Obama is guaranteed another 4 years.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 05:38 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Dark Inside ePub at November 12, 2011 05:38 PM (dNKrF)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:38 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Winning at November 12, 2011 09:35 PM (80nuu)
Only if the lights are out and he doesn't smile.
What?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:39 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 05:39 PM (I49Jm)
I remember him literally muttering to to himself in the first debate whenever McCain caught him in something. McCain didn't go after him much before that debate or after, but, for that one debate, Obama was challenged and he looked like an amateur.
It was too late. He already had an image of being more likeable. However, there was nothing impressive about his performance then or even in the following two when McCain eased up.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (enpXK)
Cain was mediocre.
Posted by: proudonkey
Hello Mr Axlerod
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (D0Svx)
Independents such as myself will ultimately decide who goes to 1600 pennsylvania ave.
See if you can determine yourself an income, fool.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Blue Hen at November 12, 2011 09:39 PM (c9Ivb)
Double Rainbow
Posted by: robtr at November 12, 2011 05:40 PM (MtwBb)
Posted by: awkward davies at November 12, 2011 05:41 PM (YCW1b)
They are bragging at how challenging the questions are and it makes you think about how so not challenging the obama/mccain debate questions were for one of the participants.
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:41 PM (oZfic)
Debate assessment.
Upside
Perry did much better this time. Even had some good humor and hit Paul on the waterboarding issue.
Ron Paul would be right if we assassinated an American citizen without the use of a court of law. Problem is that once you take arms against this country you lose that citizenship
Bachmann seemed very knowledgible on many of the issues. Good grasp of factgs
Huntsman said he would use the US military to seize rogue nukes
Santorum did try and make the distinction between waterboarding and torture
Cain seemed very willing to trust American military commanders and not be so willing to assume he knows more than they do.
Newt was very strong on not allowing the debate to spin off of what is best for America into launching attacks on his fellow debators.
Downside
Perry does seem to give simplistic answers
Ron Paul continues to think that if america tucks its tail between its legs the rest of the world will ignore us. very dangerous.
Bachman needs to tie her facts together better. Was lots of openings into how budget and policy effect each other. Lot left unsaid.
Huntsman is like Obama wants to sing We are the world too much.
Santorum really seem to lack knowledge in key areas.
Cain is far too willing in foriegn policy to avoid making decisions. He seems very unwilling to make more than basic stances.
Newt has to watch about giving too much info. Stating a strong policy susinctly is better than giving a lengthy detailed answer at times.
Posted by: William Amos at November 12, 2011 05:41 PM (HcYmo)
Posted by: Kansas at November 12, 2011 09:41 PM (c9Ivb)
Who Want's To Live Forever?
Posted by: Queen at November 12, 2011 05:42 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:38 PM (NadeK)
The guy who calls himself proudonkey is trying to pass himself off as an independent?
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:42 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: naturalfake at November 12, 2011 05:42 PM (I49Jm)
Posted by: dmandman at November 12, 2011 05:42 PM (WpVgB)
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Horse at November 12, 2011 05:43 PM (piMMO)
Posted by: poljunkie at November 12, 2011 05:43 PM (XuiJf)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 05:44 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: Winning at November 12, 2011 05:44 PM (80nuu)
*sigh*
Posted by: KG at November 12, 2011 05:45 PM (LD21B)
Fuck me? You little fat pompous fuck, you are going to hell for being married 125 times.
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 05:45 PM (4ezPk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:45 PM (niZvt)
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 09:32 PM (xeVap)
I think you might be right.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 09:33 PM (FY+2h)
I think so too.
I think Newt moves up as well
Posted by: Scorpions at November 12, 2011 09:37 PM (qjUnn)
I'm going to mildly disagree. Mildly, cause I missed the debate, and while I'm sure he did good it's a Saturday night and no one is watching and the media is going to spin it any which way they want.
Take Perry's New Hampshire speech. I sat down yesterday morning and watched it. It was really good. I thought it was a really good speech and, over-animatedness aside, he came across as sincere and was affable and fairly well spoken. But no one actually watched it and the media spun it like, "Look at this damn fool! What a fool this man is! Look at his foolish mannerisms and such. Is he drunk? No but by God we're throwing it out there anyway."
News only happens on Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. If it happens on a Saturday night it may as well never happened at all. Perry needs to do well when people are watching.
Posted by: Robert gettin' a bit cynical at November 12, 2011 05:45 PM (F79HU)
Perry sounded out of his league on foreign affairs. I felt the "cowboy" commentary coming back as the zero foreign aid thing will only create more tumult and uncertainty and he'll get the name "another Texas cowboy".
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:45 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:46 PM (niZvt)
Skimming commentsÂ…
Six Sigma. Drink!
WTF? Even Lean Six Sigma is dated business speak (BS, a la Dilbert).
Is going through the gas chamber in Basic Training torture? You're scared, you can't breathe, you're being held against your will once the gas hits,...
Do not forget that Basic Training lesson – if captured you will be tortured and you will speak, and then you probably tortured some more – better to go down fighting.Posted by: Romney Voter at November 12, 2011 05:46 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: CoolCzech at November 12, 2011 05:47 PM (niZvt)
Perry's expectations are now so utterly low, they have to be fracked to the surface.
Yep. He's playing to be the last !Romney besides Nor Luap. Romney isn't moving his own numbers so the sale just isn't made.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:48 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:49 PM (oZfic)
The guy who calls himself proudonkey is trying to pass himself off as an independent?
My name is meant to be ironic and humorous. I share many conservative beliefs.
Also, it amuses me how low the bar is set for Perry now...as long as he doesn't majorly phuck up, he's had an astounding night.
I really am beginning to think you conservatives are not too bright...you have an awesome candidate in Romney, and you continue to refuse to accept him...in the end sealing your own fate.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 05:49 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 05:49 PM (oMY/5)
Posted by: Freddie Mac at November 12, 2011 05:50 PM (z0HdK)
I really am beginning to think you conservatives are not too bright...
and yet, we're gainfully employed. Ponder this, young fuckwit.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:50 PM (GTbGH)
OTOH, Gingrich will let you know that he's the smartest person in the room, and then, if he doesn't like you, will publicly humiliate you.
Posted by: shibumi
I would like to point out that I am the squishiest of squishy moderate types, and I cannot abide Romney. I like the current incarnation of Newt, though I somehow keep hearing a John Cleese voice in the back of my mind saying, "I got better!".
Squish and Romney are not necessarily going to be a match. Squishy doesn't trust Romney; at least with Newt, you know you're going to end up sorry and sore and abandoned in the morning, but the night before will be one to remember.
Posted by: Dianna at November 12, 2011 05:50 PM (mKMj1)
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 05:51 PM (hC5jI)
Posted by: Romney Voter at November 12, 2011 05:51 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: Bob Saget habitual troll feeder at November 12, 2011 05:51 PM (dBvlk)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:49 PM (NadeK)
Oh, have you finally unsealed Barry's academic records?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:52 PM (D0Svx)
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 09:48 PM (GTbGH)
And that weird hissing sound, you guys hear that? I think dum dum's fiance has sprung another leak. So sad.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:52 PM (FY+2h)
Kind of bad for the sport, great for America.
Posted by: Big T Party at November 12, 2011 09:51 PM (hC5jI)
Eh, he probably would have liked it to go longer, but at least it wasn't a long snoozer like a fight with Anderson Silva at the top would have been.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:53 PM (GULKT)
You're pathetic to keep on pulling the unemployment card on me. I won't be jobless forever and at least I'm working hard to secure employment.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 05:53 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:53 PM (oZfic)
Perry didn't suck!!! Perry didn't suck!!! = We're back. He knocked it out the park!!! He was way better than that. Too bad you can't see it.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 05:53 PM (xeVap)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:53 PM (NadeK)
"Shovel Ready"
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:54 PM (D0Svx)
Get your ass over here now, ya little shitstain. My 9-iron is going rusty from lack of use.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:54 PM (FY+2h)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 05:54 PM (ro0Bw)
Perry didn't suck!!! Perry didn't suck!!! = We're back. He knocked it out the park!!! He was way better than that. Too bad you can't see it.
Posted by: TypicalWhitey at November 12, 2011 09:53 PM (xeVap)
Its hard for him to see through Romney's thighs and groin.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 05:54 PM (GULKT)
I won't be jobless forever
Until you adjust your attitude, you will be. Seriously, who would hire you? Despite a complete lack of life experience and accomplishment, you know more than they do. I doubt you can hide this.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 05:55 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:53 PM (NadeK)
--Did you get kicked out of Harvard Law, dum-dum?
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 05:55 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: yankeefifth at November 12, 2011 05:55 PM (loM0R)
Posted by: Ralph Wiggum at November 12, 2011 05:55 PM (l57Cl)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:53 PM (NadeK)
Bawny Fwank has a position for you.
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:56 PM (D0Svx)
1. fuck polynikes, I just wanna put that out there for fun and +1 to that
2. Romneybots stop picking on Perry and go after Cain for me because Cain = 4 more years of Obama
3. Perry's done. Get over it. You guys can keep being in denial. I was for him, I gave him money, I defend him, and I shut my brother up when he goes fapping on how much he hates him personally as a man; but it's over. it's gonna be okay, it's not the last time a good guy with a good record couldn't win a campaign.
4. Newt must keep rising. He's starting to poll better against Obama and he's the only anti-Romney available that I believe can beat Obama. If Cain wins the nomination, well look up the 1940 election...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Commenting This One Time During Vacation, And Yes Its Been Great at November 12, 2011 05:56 PM (psVqd)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Commenting This One Time During Vacation, And Yes Its Been Great at November 12, 2011 05:57 PM (psVqd)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 05:57 PM (oZfic)
4. Newt must keep rising. He's starting to poll better against Obama and he's the only anti-Romney available that I believe can beat Obama. If Cain wins the nomination, well look up the 1940 election...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Commenting This One Time During Vacation, And Yes Its Been Great at November 12, 2011 09:56 PM (psVqd)
Hear! Hear!
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 05:57 PM (D0Svx)
--I agree with all that, but especially, sadly, #3.
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 05:58 PM (QaKuj)
Well, stick with what you know, dum dum. But, I gotta tell you, the stink of your mom's basement rolls with you everywhere you go. Not gonna help.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 05:58 PM (FY+2h)
hehehe, yeah, the irony comes through all the time... along with your consistent espousal of conservative beliefs here.
You have many conservative beliefs? Name them.
I really am beginning to think you conservatives are not too bright...you have an awesome candidate in Romney, and you continue to refuse to accept him...in the end sealing your own fate.
Wow, the candidate you think is awesome is the same guy who at one point or anothervoiced just about every Democratic position. I'm stunned. I couldn't have predicted that at all. (see, that's irony)
Why is Romney an awesome candidate? And I'll concede the "he could beat Obama" part, which is why I might wind up sucking it up and voting for him at some point, but that makes him tolerable...barely...not awesome.
Why is he awesome?
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 05:58 PM (enpXK)
It worked out well for all.
Posted by: Newt at November 12, 2011 05:59 PM (z0HdK)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 06:00 PM (6K81O)
Anti-illegal immigration
Anti-entitlements
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:59 PM (NadeK)
--So why do you support King Barry then? Or are these issues in the third quartile of your priorities?
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 06:01 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: Elvis/Nixon 2012 at November 12, 2011 10:00 PM (6K81O)
aha....now you know how we feel....why there is before play and cuddling!
Posted by: American women at November 12, 2011 06:01 PM (oZfic)
He's intelligent. Can't say that about anyone else on the republican ticket other than Huntsman.
He's had a record of success (in business and public sector).
He's good looking and a good speaker.
He can win.
The clowns here who are licking Newt's nuts are suicidal idiots!
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:02 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Gloop and Gleep from The Herculoids at November 12, 2011 06:02 PM (l57Cl)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 06:02 PM (oMY/5)
You are *not* anti-entitlements.
If a poor feminist lesbian African-American rape-survivor single mother gets sick and needs health care, is that person *entitled* to health care? Yes or no?
Your answer: yes.
Posted by: Huntsman at November 12, 2011 06:02 PM (s7mIC)
Anti-entitlements
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:59 PM (NadeK)
--So why do you support King Barry then? Or are these issues in the third quartile of your priorities?
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 10:01 PM (QaKuj)
Well this right here shows his full on idiocy. He claims to be anti-entitlements, but he's all for increasing taxes on the rich to pay for the government. I'll go ahead and let you take that standard half second to figure out why that's absolutely stupid.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:03 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Jose at November 12, 2011 10:02 PM (oMY/5)
--Not a fan of the sport, but after hearing Chael Sonnen a couple times on Levin's show, I'm definitely a Sonnen fan.
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 06:04 PM (QaKuj)
You are *not* anti-entitlements.
He means Social Security. Dum Dum's all good with unearned payouts.
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 06:04 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 06:05 PM (QaKuj)
---
Well, death penalty isn't really a presidential issue.
Immigration was a wash between McCain and Obama.
And Obama was inspirational to me personally.
Also, I don't really care about abortion or gay marriage.
I liked one thing Perry said tonight...start budgets at 0....that goes for Israel too. Lets not give out American dollars unless we get shit in return.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:05 PM (NadeK)
4. Newt must keep rising. He's starting to poll better against Obama and he's the only anti-Romney available that I believe can beat Obama. If Cain wins the nomination, well look up the 1940 election...
Posted by: AuthorLMendez Commenting This One Time During Vacation, And Yes Its Been Great at November 12, 2011 09:56 PM (psVqd)
Newt is moving up in terms of his performance vs Obama.
Cain never really budged even when he bounced. Newt ran upwards of 12 points behind Romney in relative performance, that gap has halved in Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, and New Hampshire.
Technically, that's all you need anyway to win the election (with Pennsylvania OR Ohio to spare).
For not-Romney, he is doing well versus the President.
Posted by: CAC at November 12, 2011 06:05 PM (Sa+S2)
Anti-illegal immigration
Anti-entitlements
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 09:59 PM (NadeK)
Which entitlements and what else? If that's it, that doesn't count as an independent.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:05 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (X6akg)
Posted by: The Dude at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (M8yfa)
These idiots think with their hearts instead of their brains. They have no problems handing out other people's money to support a basket case, even if they are a basket case by their own hand, and even if supporting the basket case means enabling bad behavior.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: dum-dum's girlfriend at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (QaKuj)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 12, 2011 10:05 PM (JKNDp)
And if you're a fan of Jennifer Aniston you'll need to watch it alone with a box of kleenex handy.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: Bob Saget habitual troll feeder at November 12, 2011 06:06 PM (dBvlk)
You could say he was kinda like a Captain... a Captain of America... right?
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:07 PM (s7mIC)
I would actually recommend increasing taxes on the bottom 50% who don't pay anything (although that's obviously politically untenable position that Newt wouldnt even take) . I think everyone should have some skin in the game, our country will be better for it.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:07 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: toby928© at November 12, 2011 06:07 PM (GTbGH)
Posted by: TheThinMan at November 12, 2011 06:08 PM (/2ODN)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 12, 2011 10:05 PM (JKNDp)
--Just saw it last week. Jennifer Aniston was actually hot in it. Colin Farrell also played a good douchebag, if that even requires much acting.
Posted by: logprof at November 12, 2011 06:08 PM (QaKuj)
All of them, SS, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, welfare, etc. I would make people work for them or have to pay them back. Nobody should get anything for free (provided they're able to contribute to society)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:09 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: stillers at November 12, 2011 06:09 PM (gVUg0)
Don't you even care that your girlfriend is deflating as we speak? Heartless bastid.
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 06:09 PM (FY+2h)
And Obama was inspirational to me personally.
So screw the whole entitlement thing. Screw the budget. Screw everything, he makes me fell so good. *up twinkles*
Posted by: Proud Dumbass at November 12, 2011 06:09 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 06:10 PM (vZQGS)
HAHA I don't believe you.
The very first time the leftist propagandists drag out some sob story about poor widdle single mom who was FORCED to choose between paying those meanie taxes or paying for BABY FORMULA FOR JUNIOR (never mind the X-box, big screen TV and new iPhone sitting in the background), your supposed principle will melt and you will be banging the drum for more taxes on the rich and eliminating taxes on the poor.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:10 PM (s7mIC)
Colin Farrell was the best character in the movie. Too bad he had so little screen time.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:10 PM (NadeK)
Nobody should get anything for free (provided they're able to contribute to society)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 10:09 PM (NadeK)
Says the shithead that let mommy and daddy blow all their money on law school for him
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:11 PM (GULKT)
Nobody should get anything for free (provided they're able to contribute to society)...
but on the other hand, have you looked into Obama's eyes? Theye are just dreamy!
Posted by: Proud Dumbass at November 12, 2011 06:11 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: TheThinMan at November 12, 2011 06:11 PM (/2ODN)
Why do Romney and Huntsman count as intelligent and Gingrich and Paul (though I hate him) don't?
He's had a record of success (in business and public sector).
One term as governor counts as success in the public sector? Is this the kind of success that led to you being an Obama supporter?
BTW, I don't count as "success" a term where he passes major liberal legislation.
He's good looking and a good speaker.
You have got to be kidding me. Again, is this the kind of thing that led to you being an Obama supporter?
He can win.
This I've already conceded.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:11 PM (enpXK)
TomPaineLives: No 99%ers on the titatanic , just the rich lackies of the 1% with thiergold tiolets , all sitting on the bottom of the Atlantic
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Horse at November 12, 2011 06:12 PM (piMMO)
lol...that was funny gotta admit. But no, I just thought Obama was the more competent of the two. Also, Obama is very centrist/moderate...hence why alot of liberals hate him.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:12 PM (NadeK)
A lot of liberals hate Obama because Obama hasn't actually nationalized the banks and executed Bush & Cheney for war crimes.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:14 PM (s7mIC)
Now that there is funny!
Posted by: Hvy Mtl Hntr at November 12, 2011 06:15 PM (JyF4j)
No, actually its because Obama:
- kept bushes tax cuts
- kept guantanamo
- did not push for gay marriage
- agreed to entitlement cuts
- killed american terrorist abroad
etc etc. if I just told you that list, you'd think it was a republican president.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:17 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:17 PM (s7mIC)
All of them, SS, medicare, medicaid, food stamps, welfare, etc. I would make people work for them or have to pay them back. Nobody should get anything for free (provided they're able to contribute to society)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 10:09 PM (NadeK)
So what do you mean? How would people work for them and pay them back and who would be barred from them? (Sorry, but this doesn't sound so much like a conservative issue so much as Dem trying to voice what they think a conservative issue would be. I can't remember any conservative voicing this.)
And, again, what other issues besides those three? Anti-entitlements = Daniel Patrick Moynihan (at least early Moynihan). That doesn't make you an independent.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:17 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: Mindy at November 12, 2011 06:17 PM (Is5Ig)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 06:18 PM (oZfic)
Rather, we remember the media portrayal of Newt. They've slandered and lied about every other R, but they surely told the whole truth about Newt, right? No misrepresentations there, right? No omitted information in reports about him, right?
I'm looking at him and the race in the age of the conservative blogosphere, and Newt's looking good to me. I'm still on Team Perry, but I'd love to have Newt for VP/Press Sec. And if Perry implodes, Newt's in the running for the top slot on my ballot.
Posted by: Queen Hotchibobo at November 12, 2011 06:18 PM (KGZqU)
You got it. Dum-dum is just trying to fit in here, and trying badly.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:19 PM (s7mIC)
My main issue at the moment is the economy: So I would like a President who can balance the budget, cut spending, and raise revenues. I'm not sure what that makes me, but I doubt it makes me a liberal.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:20 PM (NadeK)
*rolls eyes* yeah, I'm just dying to fit in. /s
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:20 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: Peaches at November 12, 2011 06:22 PM (FY+2h)
It makes you a dem cause you used the democrat/liberal/communist approved word "revenue" instead of saying "taxes".
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 06:22 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 06:22 PM (ro0Bw)
- kept guantanamo
He was FORCED to accept these positions by Congress. If it were entirely up to him they would all be gone.
- did not push for gay marriage
DADT repeal. Close enough.
- agreed to entitlement cuts
Empty words. He never put on the record any proposal to cut entitlements. Except Medicare, of course, which was to be eventually replaced by ObamaCare, his brand new entitlement that you supposedly hate.
- killed american terrorist abroad
If this pisses off the left then they are truly stupid.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:23 PM (s7mIC)
Of course plenty of liberals are in favor of those things. The difference is what spending you want to cut and what taxes you want to raise.
So, what spending do you want to cut?
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:24 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: lauren at November 12, 2011 06:25 PM (VKD8C)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 10:20 PM (NadeK)
Proudonkey, the only specifics you offered there were cutting spending and raising taxes. What is there about that which keeps you from being a liberal?
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:25 PM (enpXK)
We should ban him, because I don't like what he says.
Posted by: Ron Paul at November 12, 2011 06:25 PM (1rA2i)
AD, liberals are not in favor of cutting entitlements in general. I am in favor of across the board cuts. I would also like a stricter immigration policy. I believe those push me clear out of the liberal camp. My stance on abortion and gay marriage push me out of the conservative camp. On taxes, I'm kinda mixed.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:29 PM (NadeK)
Again, it really doesn't. That makes you Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
Hell, even Clinton came around to signing welfare reform. The question is how much to cut in entitlements, how much to cut elsewhere, and how much, and whether, to raise taxes.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:34 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:34 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:34 PM (enpXK)
So what, I never said I was conservative. I am sure I am independent. I'm tired of having to prove my bonafides to you.
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:36 PM (NadeK)
Real mature, buzzion. Are you sure you're not 12?
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:36 PM (NadeK)
Posted by: David Axelrod at November 12, 2011 06:37 PM (rJVPU)
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:37 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:38 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 10:29 PM (NadeK)
So you agree, Obama sucks?
Posted by: Joe Six Crack at November 12, 2011 06:38 PM (D0Svx)
"liberals are not in favor of cutting entitlements in general."
is a false statement. Obama & the liberals in Pelosi's Congress were more than happy to cut the Medicare entitlement... to help fund the even BIGGER entitlement of ObamaCare.
It is all about incrementalism. In the end we will all be in the care of one giant omnipotent entitlement (according to them). But you have to create and destroy littler entitlements along the way.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:43 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 10:36 PM (NadeK)
You don't have to, dude, I'm just explaining the snark. Anti-entitlements, immigration, the death penalty, and being on the left on every single other issue does not make somebody an independent.
This is why a lot of liberals will honestly think they're moderates. Just because you're more to the right than everybody else you deal with doesn't make you an independent. What you're describing is at best center-left.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:43 PM (enpXK)
Get a phucking life, you damn old codger!
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:43 PM (NadeK)
Oh come on, take that back! Miller was cool.
Posted by: AD at November 12, 2011 06:45 PM (enpXK)
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 06:45 PM (GULKT)
And, sincerely, he's not even that.
From a principled POV, how can one be "anti-entitlement" but "mixed on taxes"? WTF? He is just trying to split the difference in some bullshit utilitarian manner.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 06:46 PM (s7mIC)
lol...those are not completely connected. You do realize our military needs to be paid for, and bridges too...and guess what, we need taxes to pay for that GASP!
Posted by: proudonkey at November 12, 2011 06:48 PM (NadeK)
805 Herman
Cain: There are things I know that I know. There are known
unknowns. That is to say there are things that I now know I don't
know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things I do not
know I don't know
Except Rummy did it in a satirical manner.
Posted by: Susan Sarandon's Saggy Boobehs at November 12, 2011 09:28 PM (piMMO)
Actually that is a fundamental mathematical/logic problem, a meta-problem. Cain knows precisely what that he meant (use of "I" actually means "anybody"), provided you related it accurately. Rummy may well have been satirical, but I doubt it. In either case, assuming you have a basic HS knowledge of algebra, it would take about three years in your average college hard science program before you would grok it.
Per your comment - Cain needs to talk down the voters.
Posted by: Romney Voter at November 12, 2011 06:48 PM (7MFxV)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 06:49 PM (oZfic)
[raised eyebrow]
Meh.
Posted by: Senator Blutarsky at November 12, 2011 06:51 PM (FXkD/)
That is a fucking copout and you know it.
Conservatives aren't opposed to taxation for paying for the military or for bridges. The fact that you consider taxation for these things to be "mixed" just shows how much you've bought into the leftist spin of the issue.
Go fellate Elizabeth Warren while you are at it.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 12, 2011 07:08 PM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 12, 2011 07:10 PM (JKNDp)
Posted by: Ohio Dan at November 12, 2011 11:10 PM (JKNDp)
Oh its certainly enjoyable even if you don't specifically have a thing for her. The office scene I didn't even know if they showed her face.
But if you are a fan you'll definitely need a box of tissues.
Posted by: buzzion at November 12, 2011 07:13 PM (GULKT)
Posted by: SpiritCrusher at November 12, 2011 07:23 PM (qa4Nt)
Posted by: macintosh at November 12, 2011 07:36 PM (oZfic)
Posted by: Vonnegut at November 12, 2011 07:45 PM (w9vb/)
This is true. Newt has held his ire for the media and the mods in these debates, but he'd unload on Obama, and Obama is so thin-skinned and unable to take criticism of any sort, that he'd lose it.
Posted by: holygoat at November 12, 2011 07:46 PM (2ptZ1)
Newt would be awesome in a debate against Obama.
Then he would have to do retail politics across the whole country, get tired, have heart palpitations, and spend months of the campaign "campaigning" at cantina's in Hawaii.
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Posted by: Boone at November 12, 2011 10:45 PM (Jl3Mu)
Conversely, Herman Cain's behaviour since the (non)-"scandal" broke has been extremely unimpressive.
Posted by: mike bell at November 12, 2011 10:51 PM (Kz6PE)
Posted by: Zakn at November 12, 2011 11:02 PM (zyaZ1)
Posted by: Boone at November 13, 2011 02:45 AM (Jl3Mu)
I so wanted to like Cain, but he's been clueless from the start, and looks worse, the more you see of him. Honestly, a lot of that "stellar career in private business" stuff about him is screaming "affirmative action" to me at this point.
I sure didn't expect to be saying this, but if Perry is out (or still in single digits) by the time we vote in Virginia in March, I'll be voting for Newt. He definitely #2 on my perference list now, baggage train or not.
Perry/Newt in 2012!
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 13, 2011 04:09 AM (haFNK)
The debate was odd as there was no female moderator so that was initially distracting since I began thinking "does CBS have no female journalists of note?" And, while Major Garrett was "just ok", I'd never seen the other moderator, Scott until tonight and I realized he would make a lovely example of a pompous ass. I'm told that the pompous ass replaced katie "core ik" and I laughed and laughed because I guess CBS has indicated that they don't care to have viewers of or ratings for this broadcast by their recent choice of anchors, both male and female. But, then again, it shows when you go for the cheapest item on the shelf, sometimes you get lucky and sometimes you don't. CBS didn't but considering that he must be making minimum wage and "core ik" made millions, he's made the broadcast instantly profitable and that's probably all they care about since their audience for their evening news is slowly dying away, literally.
By doing the bulk of the debate on television and then going to the computer I discovered that those watching on the computer, from the beginning, fared much better than the unexpected throng who suddenly jumped onto the computer, en mass, when the televised part of the debate ended. Essentially, you had to have the national journal and the CBS feed on simultaneously with the sound off on one site in order to have the live stream behave and be viewable. The live stream was so horrendous that I imagine a lot of people just gave up.
The debate was poorly run. The moderators did not hide their democratic liberal preferences and each and every time one of the candidates said anything even slightly critical of the President, the moderators called time. They did however try in several spots to pit the candidates against one another and have a"bar brawl" but. for the most part, the candidates rose above the poor moderation and didn't bite.
A lot of people felt the debate was useless in that the moderators seemed to be demanding foreign policy and what the candidates would do and the way the world moves so fast, what a candidate would do now, with circumstances now, may not be what they would do in over a year when they'd be president. So, some folks seem to think that the candidates realizing that they might have a very different world, were not so willing to just spout out a course of action.
Cain was criticized as not knowing what he was doing but his answers were spot on. In watching I got more of the "thinking, planning, executing" vibe from Cain than the "he didn't know what he was talking about" vibe. From Perry I got the "ok, here's another texas cowboy to drag us into another war" vibe. Yes, most Americans would like to see our money spent at home and left at home and not given away for nothing to other countries. However, they particularly discussed the Pakistan situation which is wrought with nuances. Not the least of which is the fact that they have nukes. It's worse to see someone present simplistic solutions to complex problems when we already have that person in the White House. I felt Perry did this. But, Perry has a throng of disappointed supporters all over the internet who see a little bit of life left in his campaign and think Cain is the only candidate standing in his way. Guess they don't see Newt and Mitt. If you like Cain, should he not become viable as a candidate, you aren't switching to Perry, you are switching to Newt.
But to send you minions out onto the internet to call Cain stupid, unprepared and disappointing, is going to prove to be a huge mistake for the Perry camp.
Posted by: macintosh at November 13, 2011 05:54 AM (oZfic)
Posted by: Evan at November 13, 2011 06:36 AM (O3OlP)
No. Newt will backstab us again. I've always thought Newt was great at ideas and presenting them - then he goes and sticks a cold knife in the back of conservatives. I can forgive his cheatn' ways with his wives (he's a politician) but I don't think I could stand to see someone that talks such a good game - turn and stab us conservatives in the back - again.
To the Perry folks - give it up. He is not half as good as Newt in this debate and even though he did stay ahead Cain - that's not much of win. It's more like a special olympics win.
Posted by: Evan at November 13, 2011 07:08 AM (O3OlP)
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Posted by: macintosh at November 13, 2011 08:57 AM (oZfic)
How much of that includes pauses?
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