June 22, 2011
— Dave in Texas Because four minutes will put you in a coma.
If you got less that 6 hours of sleep last night, I suggest you skip this video.
Posted by: Dave in Texas at
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No need to watch it. Here's what Huntsman said:
"I am Jon Huntsman and I do not want to defeat Barack Obama in 2012."
Posted by: Soothsayer at June 22, 2011 05:18 AM (zgxcs)
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 05:18 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: GGE of the Moron Horde at June 22, 2011 05:20 AM (f4gk9)
It actually is a pretty serious question as to how a Muslim chick like Huma could have married a Jew who hadn't converted to Islam.
Technically speaking, if Weiner really didn't convert, then Huma should have been beheaded by now.
Unless maybe the Muslims think that Huma is such a good intelligence asset that they don't want to blow her cover.
[BTW, most people who have studied the matter believe that Grover Norquist secretly converted to Islam when he married his Muslim wife.]
Posted by: yazoo at June 22, 2011 05:21 AM (nfn9A)
Posted by: Cherry π the unbanned at June 22, 2011 05:22 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: wiserzzzzzzzzzzzz at June 22, 2011 05:23 AM (3Okgs)
Posted by: Fravid Dum at June 22, 2011 05:24 AM (pZX2t)
Did I doze off during Huntsman's clip? Is this a troofer thread now?
Posting a link to the Free Republic doesn't add much credibility.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 05:24 AM (TFxd0)
He's not even meat. He reminds me of a piece of limp celery.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 22, 2011 05:25 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Mr Pink at June 22, 2011 05:26 AM (gCjSv)
he has the support of the No Labels crowd, so there's a few dozen votes right there. At least until the general, when they'll vote for the D labeled guy. Just like they always do.
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 05:26 AM (SBIko)
Looks like the DNC selected loser for 2012.
And the RNC would rather lose than be taken over by the tea party.
Fuck 'em both.
He'll drop out next after Newton, and T-Paw.
Unfortunatley, Paul will continue to the bitter end.
Posted by: HoundOfDoom at June 22, 2011 05:27 AM (CFrIf)
Huntsman would be just fine. Compare him with 'Salamander" Gingrich or "Manson Lamps" Bachman or some guy with the moniker "T-Paw." Ouch.
Sarah I bet can make us kids some great Cheese Whiz sammiches, but even "Skeezicks" Obama would do a 49 state sweep on her.
Herman Cain, Mitt R., anybody from Seal Team 6, and even Jon Huntsman - better than even.
...and who does not like Monument Valley?
Posted by: Bobby Ahr at June 22, 2011 05:28 AM (tOjxl)
High school grade elocution skills- emPHAsis on THE wrong syllaBLEs through OUT......his SPEECH.
Very obviously reading from notes, one would think his fiery announcement speech would be well rehearsed. AppaRENTly not.
Weird "gaaaaaaahr" smile.
Disjointed robotic movements- almost lifelike!
As for the content of his "speech". Yaaaawn.
The deck is stacked against this Jagoff. Buh bye.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 22, 2011 05:29 AM (XyjRQ)
I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords....
Oh, wait....
I for one wlecome our first "I'm just here to run for VP" candidate...
Posted by: rhaubib at June 22, 2011 05:29 AM (q32Ly)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 22, 2011 05:30 AM (i6Neb)
Yes, as a greeter at a funeral home, or the 3rd shift desk staff at a YMCA.
No, no, no.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 22, 2011 05:31 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: izoneguy at June 22, 2011 05:31 AM (i6Neb)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2011 05:32 AM (Rlz/P)
Posted by: Bob Saget rides the short bus at June 22, 2011 05:33 AM (F/4zf)
A statement analogous to saying water can catch fire.
Combine Huntsman with John Boehner and Mitch McConnell in DC and you get the Voltron of Quislings. We may as well declare Harry Reid king.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 22, 2011 05:34 AM (FkKjr)
Wow, up to 2%?
Sounds like someone's got some Huntsmentum happening!
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 22, 2011 05:34 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 05:35 AM (SBIko)
He's a serious candidate. America needs a boring, serious adult.
Posted by: Goerge Wilt at June 22, 2011 05:36 AM (K/USr)
Even the applause was half-hearted and dull.
Jon Huntsman reminds me of Chelcie Ross when Ross is playing some weasely character.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 22, 2011 05:38 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: DarkLord© apparently didn't sleep very well last night at June 22, 2011 05:39 AM (GBXon)
I got three hours of sleep last night, so I shall skip the video.
I will, however, say that John Huntsman is a waffling windbag progressive plant. He's got as much chance at winning the nomination as the athlete's foot my co-worker had back in 2003.
Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 05:39 AM (4df7R)
HAH! Exactly! Nice one, Kratos.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 22, 2011 05:39 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at June 22, 2011 05:40 AM (lbo6/)
I'm Jon Huntsman, and the dominate liberal media likes me. So, If I win, you lose. If Obama wins, I win. Why? Because the liberal media will continue to like me. Dutiful me.
see how that works?
Posted by: Jon at June 22, 2011 05:40 AM (0fzsA)
OT: Over 60 Al Qaeda Operatives "Escape" Prison in Southern Yemen
Link is to The Australian. Hat tip Weasel Zippers. Quotation marks are mine (and so richly deserved).
Posted by: MWR at June 22, 2011 05:42 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: MSM at June 22, 2011 05:42 AM (iLoeh)
Interesting idea though. Time to shift gears on Weiner? (And nobody would be paying attention to this if it wasn't for the Typo from Hell...)
Posted by: DarkLord© apparently didn't sleep very well last night at June 22, 2011 05:43 AM (GBXon)
He's in the race to help Mittens pass himself off as a conservative.
Posted by: Ken at June 22, 2011 05:43 AM (fFh95)
Posted by: dogfish at June 22, 2011 05:43 AM (NuPNl)
He is not the only thing Mika is tongue bathing..........IYKWIM
Are you insinuating that DC's Mother of the Year has been going to the Scarborough Fair to ride the Himalaya? I disagree. I think that vacuous, starry-eyed look is her best imitation of deep thought.
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 05:44 AM (SBIko)
Posted by: dfbaskwill at June 22, 2011 05:45 AM (71LDo)
Nah. He hates Mitt. He thinks he's going to siphon votes off from him. I don't see that strategy working.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 05:46 AM (TFxd0)
And anyway, his head is too large. He looks like he's going to fall over.
I don't think this country needs a president with a poorly balanced head that requires a giant pillow to sleep on. I want a well proportioned president that doesn't need a larger than average pillow. I want to look at my president and think, "Hey, if he ever showed up at my house and needed a place to crash I got the perfect sized pillow for him." And he'd be like, "This pillow is so soft! Dude tomorrow, just for you...tax cut!" That shit would be so cash.
Posted by: Robert at June 22, 2011 05:46 AM (4q6A5)
Posted by: Dick at June 22, 2011 05:46 AM (Tj88Z)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 22, 2011 05:47 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 05:50 AM (SBIko)
His dad is worth ~$1 billion. Not Soros level (>$14 billion), but still a lot (5x what Mitt is worth).
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 05:51 AM (TFxd0)
Let's go tin foil hat. He's a Chinese mole that has gone native, a la Tom Friedman.
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 05:57 AM (SBIko)
I really think it was for three reasons.
1. Personal ambition - I don't think he really believes he'll win the nomination. I think he thinks that he has a shot at being given the VP slot. This is a guy who may have won the governorship in Utah (although my bet is that was primarily owing to the esteem Utahns feel for his dad), but for the most part he has had made his career off of appointments (ambassadorships, WH positions), not elections. To give you insight into the guy's personality, his hatred for Mitt stems from Jon Jr. expecting the SLC Olympic Cmte to hand the reins over to him, without him applying for the job. Mitt beat him out for the job which is why the mom and Jon Jr. hate Mitt.
2. Hatred of Mitt - see above. This will not work, imho. The people who know him best (Utahns) chose Mitt 3:1 over Huntsman in a head-to-head POTUS poll a few months ago. His Lt. Gov., Herbert (now our governor), has made it pretty clear he's not endorsing Huntsman.
3. Desire to push the party to the left - I think he finds the conservative/tea party crowd "distasteful." He was quite comfortable settling into the Obama administration. He would be more upset if Bachmann won than if Obama won re-election.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 05:58 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Book Geek at June 22, 2011 05:59 AM (1+OO5)
Yeah, he increased his support 100% from the previous poll. But that is the latest Zogby (see my post on the headline thread).
Posted by: Vic at June 22, 2011 06:03 AM (M9Ie6)
Oh, news flash from his Hannity interview -- Cap'n Trade is bad for the economy. Global warming is real, though. So I guess as soon as President Huntsman gets the economy back on its feet, he can whack it with some regs.
Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 06:05 AM (cSLvr)
Posted by: Minnie Rodent at June 22, 2011 06:06 AM (S3rrR)
It's not a very good strategy by Soros et al, if that's what it is. I would think they'd have groomed some governor with no direct connections to the administration as the plant. That could have worked. If they picked some "moderate" (read: liberal) Republican governor, the admin could have spent the past couple of years helping out that state so the gov would look good. Annointing that person as the Great GOP Hope (only to know that the person would run an even more anemic campaign than McCain) would have been a great strategy. Perhaps that's what they'd planned to do with Charlie Crist.
I'm sure they're happy Huntsman is running, but I don't think they planned it.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 06:06 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 09:58 AM
Convenient the way he discovered that Obama isn't a foreign policy genius. It only took him two years.
Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 06:08 AM (cSLvr)
Is it any surprise that talking heads on both sides of the aisle are touting this guy as one of the few serious contenders? T-Paw and Romney being the others, Bachmann and Perry not even in the conversation.
Fuck it. Perry/Bachmann 2012. Sarah on the cabinet, I don't care where.
Posted by: arhooley at June 22, 2011 06:11 AM (cSLvr)
Yup!
When his name was first floated, several months ago, I was willing to consider him. I thought a candidate who had been a successful governor and had left the Obama administration could have conducted a powerful campaign against Obama. It seemed like on paper Huntsman had the foreign policy bases covered that our other governors/former governors lacked.
But after reading up on him and talking with a lot of Utahns and seeing that Salt Lake Tribune (complete liberal rag) is pushing his candidacy... well, he is clearly a cravenly ambitious prick.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 06:14 AM (TFxd0)
The only ones talking about this guy are liberals..
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 22, 2011 06:15 AM (f9c2L)
A- Having worked for Obama he has a chance as a...Republican?
B- Being the point guy on China gives him...credibility?
C- Telling us, US???, to be civil will get him some votes?
He does know the last guy Obama beat had a very similar "I am a liberal too, only different!" act- right?
Posted by: Marcus at June 22, 2011 06:16 AM (CHrmZ)
Huntsman would be just fine.
Posted by: Bobby Ahr
Let's see.
MFM? check
Harry Reid? check
Bobby Arr matey? check
Dear god. It's a Huntsman juggernaut!
P.S. He should reach across the aisle and select John Kerry (D-Cambodia) as his VP choice. Between Heinz and Hunts, they could at least have a deathmatch ketchup fight or something. That's all I can conjure up for this guy.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 22, 2011 06:17 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: d_fitz
Who didn't she sleep with?
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 22, 2011 06:18 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Guy who got less than six hours of sleep last night at June 22, 2011 06:18 AM (v+QvA)
Right. People prefer a pea-head. BB-brain.
Posted by: Chi-Town Barry at June 22, 2011 06:20 AM (K/USr)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 22, 2011 06:21 AM (Rlz/P)
He hates him because of the Olympics. There was an in depth profile of Huntsman in some place like Vanity Fair (I know!) a while back explaining the animus. I wouldn't take it seriously except that I've spoken with several people in the know here in Utah who confirm the basic points. The mother is apparently a nasty piece of work as well, so she may be egging Junior on. The sad thing is that the father is by all accounts a wonderful man. He's given away $1.2 billion to charity (not just to the Church, but to schools, hospitals, and the like) while his net worth is a bit under $1 billion.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think that Romney is a person of basically sound character. His policies may be wrong, but I basically respect him as a person (doesn't mean I want him to be President). I think Mitt has handled the personal attacks on him over his faith with dignity. Unlike Huntsman, Mitt doesn't spend tons of time back-pedaling from being a Mormon. (If I were a Mormon, I'd be utterly disgusted by Huntsman Jr's behavior.)
Huntsman, in contrast, is a really opportunistic weasel. I've spoken with folks who worked on his campaigns who really felt betrayed by Huntsman over changes in positions that he made after being elected. The school choice issue was one in particular that really lost him support.
Romney is really well-respected here because of what he did with the Olympics. I've only met one person who did not sing Mitt's praises over how he brought them back from the brink of disaster.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 06:27 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: TheJotus at June 22, 2011 06:28 AM (JKTeS)
You guys are deluzional. Harry Reid likes him - heh - what more could you ask? BTW, didn't watch the video, 2 minutes and 59 seconds too long. Harry Real Estate Reid likes him, and that's all I need to know.
Isn't there another Mormon out there somewhere who can run and siphon votes off both Romney and Huntsman? Just askin'.
Posted by: Carmelita at June 22, 2011 06:30 AM (7CEIi)
Thanks, from the bottom of my rotting black heart, thanks!
Posted by: JT2 at June 22, 2011 06:32 AM (3hezO)
Huntsman has no chance to win the nomination. If there is any sign of a "danger" of that, I think conservative candidates like Cain and Bachmann will drop out so that Perry will get the nomination handily.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 06:34 AM (TFxd0)
Jon Huntsman loves him some Barry O. Oh wait, he was just trying to be nice:
In an interview after his presidential announcement Tuesday, former Utah governor and ambassador to China Jon Huntsman tried to downplay a letter he wrote to President Barack Obama in August 2009 calling him a "remarkable leader."
Huntsman told Fox News that he was only alluding to the fact that the president would appoint a Republican to "a position as important and sensitive as the U.S. ambassadorship to China."
"You are a remarkable leader," Huntsman wrote in the note, which was leaked to reporters earlier this year. He underlined the word "remarkable."
Asked if he was referring to the president's policies with those kind words, Huntsman claimed that he wrote the letter "early in his administration." http://tinyurl.com/6c8bqcm
Judgment. It's other name is Huntsman.
Posted by: Cicero at June 22, 2011 06:34 AM (Txl/u)
On the show, he lost big time to a Latino congressman whose big winning issue with the voters was to massively jack up education spending played by Jimmy Smits
Jon Huntsman = Arnold Vilnick
Posted by: kbdabear at June 22, 2011 06:34 AM (so1xa)
Book it.
Posted by: Billy Jeff at June 22, 2011 06:39 AM (m/tN9)
But when that fails, what will he do for a job? I mean, most of this guy's career comes from his family connections (from Jon Sr's global chemical company). I'm sure that's why he got the various WH trade appointments. If he runs as a spoiler, he loses all support from the GOP - possibly even loses his dad at that point as I'm pretty sure Jon Sr is a conservative (Sr's business partner, Bob Gay, certainly is). No more sweet appointments. He'd be a pariah in the GOP, in Utah, and possibly in his own family and his usefulness to the Democrats would be over.
The guy's psychological make up is that he never wants to have to work for anything.
I still think his primary motivation is for the VP slot.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 06:47 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: mark c at June 22, 2011 06:48 AM (SBIko)
He has no balls. I want someone who is gonna kick some ass for a change and not apologize all the time. Enough of this so called "civility."
Posted by: mpfs at June 22, 2011 06:55 AM (iYbLN)
They should make Palin the Secretary of Fucking with the Media
Posted by: beedubya at June 22, 2011 06:58 AM (AnTyA)
This guy is McCain 2.0 and should be treated as such.
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 22, 2011 07:02 AM (GBXon)
Press Secretary. Watch the entire WH Press Corps die of simultaneous aneurysms.
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 22, 2011 07:03 AM (GBXon)
But first she should be Secretary of Your Department Is Now Closed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 22, 2011 07:05 AM (LH6ir)
I think the "Rich Kid" psychology play right into a third party run. He is NOT going to be the Republican nominee, he never has to worry about where his next vacation home is coming from, and the media attention (especially the way the MSM will fawn over him as a "reasonable" Republican) will turn this guy on. Families rarely ostracize to the point of disinheriting a son or daughter over politics. He will couch this as an attempt to appeal to the centrist and attempt to paint the Rs as outside the mainstream with all of the heavy lifting done by the press. They will LOVE him, solely as a means to protect their boyfriend. And beleive me, he will have myriad opportunities both withe the Dems, and as a pundit or "statesman". The MSM adores "Republicans" who show disdain for conservatism.
In the immortal words of Tim the Enchanter, "I warned you......"
---Accidental sock in previous post, sorry----
Posted by: Alamo at June 22, 2011 07:06 AM (m/tN9)
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 22, 2011 11:02 AM (GBXon)
Yeah -- McCain without the military background or bravery.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 22, 2011 07:07 AM (LH6ir)
Athletes Foot/Crabs 2012!!!
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2011 07:08 AM (pdRb1)
The Morning Joe crew tongue bathes this guy every day. That alone makes me not trust the guy.
He is not the only thing Mika is tongue bathing..........IYKWIM
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If Mika would STFU, she's be seriously fuckable.
Perhaps she's into ball gags...
Posted by: houndofdoom at June 22, 2011 07:10 AM (CFrIf)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 22, 2011 07:13 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 22, 2011 07:15 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 22, 2011 11:08 AM (pdRb1)
Yeast Infection / Jock Itch 2012
...catch it!!
Posted by: beedubya at June 22, 2011 07:17 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 22, 2011 07:21 AM (mHQ7T)
Posted by: Marie at June 22, 2011 07:27 AM (H50jQ)
Fuck you Midget.
"Huntsman at least makes you cavedwellers look like you give a shit about the economy and foreign policy."
Perhaps the stupidest tripe I've read all week- and that's an accomplishment. O's Ambassador to China, and he speaks fuckin' Mandarin- there's credentials for you. Any one who is not all over federal spending is not serious on the economy, and this guy wants to be the "reasonable one" as defined by the MSM. Serious about the economy? Hardly. The folks who are serious about the economy are the ones who will look directly into the camera and say tougher times are coming, particularly if you depend on the government for your bread.
The American people are going to stomp your boyfriend right back into a tenured professorship at the University of Chicago, regardless of Huntsman.
Posted by: Alamo at June 22, 2011 07:30 AM (m/tN9)
Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2011 07:44 AM (lSuMX)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 22, 2011 07:44 AM (GTbGH)
Doesn't anybody remember the cartoon, The Huntsman? It was part of the Freakazoid show, put out by Kids WB... early/mid 90s??
Surely some of you were that age at the time, or had kids that age. Youtube it, morons. It works real well in context, so I can't guarantee you'll find it funny if you just watch the shorts that are available now.
Anyway, I think (unless there are copyright infringement issues) the theme song should run every time Jon Huntsman's name is mentioned. It already does in my head.
Posted by: Mr. Fire at June 22, 2011 08:01 AM (TOk1P)
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 22, 2011 08:04 AM (GBXon)
Obviously I don't know what's going on in that family, but it's not just politics. Junior spends a lot of time proclaiming how un-Mormon he is.
His dad is a respected member of the LDS Church (maybe even an Area Seventy or something). Junior clearly is not. I think the double whammy of enabling an Obama victory and being an asshole anti-Mormon to boot (don't forget, this guy just hired someone from Huck's team for pity's sake), knee-capping the favored candidate [Mitt], might be enough to do serious damage to his relationship with his dad. His mom: probably not. But I'm guessing Jon Sr. controls the purse strings.
It'll be interesting to see whom Bob Gay (Huntsman Sr's business partner at Huntsman Gay Global Capital) supports. I saw Gay speak recently. He seemed really conservative. And, he was Mitt's mentor, I think.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 08:14 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at June 22, 2011 11:21 AM (mHQ7T)
---
That was uncalled for.
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 08:17 AM (TFxd0)
Thanks!
Where are you? I'm in Utah County. 'Still learning the ropes here, but enjoying it so far.
I was asking a friend of mine here in Utah why the legislature pushed through that immigration bill. She speculated that the Church wanted it to go through and went on to speculate that President Monson is a Democrat. Do you think that's true?
Posted by: Y-not at June 22, 2011 08:19 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 22, 2011 08:20 AM (rS3u3)
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 22, 2011 08:27 AM (rS3u3)
Wow, Tattoo, what got into you? I didn't read anything racist or embarrassing in the thread before your post. If you were trying to be snarky, you failed; if you were serious, you still failed.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop at June 22, 2011 08:57 AM (S2+uh)
Posted by: No Whining at June 22, 2011 09:00 AM (UzjcV)
I've been here, wow, 14 years now; love it but as a city transplant it took some getting used to. A big culture shock, but I love the laid-backness of it all.
Yeah, I was surprised by the immigration bill too. As someone who is LDS I can kind of speculate as to why, my two cents. I think they support it because they think it will help with missionary work. In the church's mind a convert is a convert, it doesn't matter where they come from, and having them come to the US and Utah makes it easier for the missionaries here to find them. I know there are a ton of Spanish speaking US missions now, especially in CA, and the bulk of new converts are often latino/hispanic. So the church sees that as a demographic they want to pursue.
However, a ton of Mormons in Utah are hard core tea partiers, which I'm sure you know, plus one of the Articles of Faith of Mormonism is to "obey, honor, and sustain the law," and the bill kind of flies in the face of Federal law. So a lot of LDS members are torn about that. I always suspected Uchtdorf (one of Monson's counselors in the church presidency) of being a Dem, actually, and Monson being conservative, but they keep their political beliefs really close to the vest so I honestly have no idea.
Have you ever listened to Rod Arquette on 105.7 FM? He's definitely conservative/has tea party leanings, but he is fair, and he gets great guests on. One of my faves on my drive home in the evenings.Posted by: LizLem at June 22, 2011 09:07 AM (lSuMX)
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Posted by: Megan McCain at June 22, 2011 10:34 AM (mQMnK)
Unfortunately, Voinovich (from the Serb, meaning "pale green pants with no one inside them") is too old, and screwed the pooch besides with the whole tearful breakdown thing. The press loved to paint him as a "deficit hawk," though: his answer to deficits was to raise taxes, every time.
Posted by: Ken at June 22, 2011 04:58 PM (fFh95)
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