1

Since you mentioned misogyny in Muslim culture...

People say itÂ’s hard to put a value on life.  Not in this case it isnÂ’t.

2 I would modestly eat Chris Buckley but I still have the shits from eating Ted Kennedy.

3 Christopher Buckley isn't funny.  T. Coddington Van Vorhees is funny.

4

"But, heck, is it that far of a step from bureaucratic rationing of life-prolonging procedures to rewarding people for voluntarily killing themselves?"

 

I'm currently reading Richard Evans' three volume history of Germany and the Nazis (halfway through third volume).  One thing that struck me was his depiction of how the Final Solution began by switching over the units and techniques employed for eugenics purposes to genocide.  It seemed a soft and casual transition.  So no, it really isn't a far step, and people who believe it is will be unpleasantly surprised.

5
heh, I just quoted from that old post, the other day

6 Thank You for Smoking was mildly amusing. Chris Buckley is not. He needs to repudiate his previous support for the One and then shut up.

7

the legislation in question is [minor spoiler] legislation allowing significant tax breaks and other financial incentives for retired Boomers who agree to voluntary assisted suicide by a given age...

Why would anyone need to commit suicide?  Why not just agree to opt of of SS for the good of the nation?  I'm a Boomer and I would rather have no SS then to see the nation disintegrate economically and live the rest of my life in a scenario like the movie "The Postman".

8 "Thank You For Smoking."  Get it from your public library.  You're welcome.

9 Let me be clear.  I like the cut of his jib.

10 Stupid book by an incredibly stupid clown with almost new redeeming characteristics

and you want me to buy and read his book...............

11 almost NO redeeming....

stupid typist, me

12 OT
Don't know if anyone has brought this up yet.  There seems to be a connection between spending taxpayer money and stupidity. The proof. And we wonder why gubmint programs don't accomplish the goals they're supposed to.

13

The rationing of health care for the elderly won't be the only thing that speeds up the inevitable. The quality of care also goes down for many elderly patients depending on the doctor. A family doctor in town here is notorious for being horrible with older patients. I've heard an anecdotal story from another family member whose father was coughing up blood. She went with her father to see the doctor or else the doctor would have most likely sent her father home telling him "You're just getting old."

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 19, 2011 02:58 PM (jx2j9)

She's not truly free until she's in Hustler and we can see her kidneys.

14 How many times does it take to say the SS is not the problem? We are throwing away half a billion dollars a year on SSDI which is largely fraud and Medicaid/medicare which is the real money eater.

Besides that, the evil babyboomers paid for their SS with increased withholding and later retirement age (twice). All that extra money was enough to get SS past the hump.

Too bad the comiecrats spent it all. Now they are talking about another "fix". That at the same time they refuse to backoff on their insane spending levels now.

So yes, we are doomed. If everyone over the age of 60 committed suicide tomorrow we would still be doomed.

15 Maybe Logan's Run had it right.

16 We have much in common with the chicken.

17 It would be one thing if Chris Buckley just went about his business and quietly voted for the JEF.  But that's not what happened; he made it clear that he was voting for the JEF because of how fucking brilliant he was and that we were a crew of dumbasses if we believed otherwise.  So fuck him to death and after with the barbed cock of Satan.

18 You have to wonder how he feels now,

Like he deserves to rule you. And if he can't do it personally, someone like him should. Obama, for example.

He'd also think you're a chump for furthering his cause, if he thought about it. But he doesn't have to.

19
Can I get me one of them there butt plugs huntin' license?

-Senator John Kerry, D-Moonbattery

20
I'm really for those tax breaks for the elderly.

21 Ace calles Christopher Buckley Bill Buckley's retarded offspring. I concur.

22 Haven't read any of his books, nor do I see myself reading them anytime in the future.

23 Ace must be hitting the Valu-Rite early this week.

24 public record now

25

Christopher Buckley is my kind of man!

26 Anybody stupid enough to be taken in by The One is too stupid to listen to.
But I'm sure he's a funny guy.

27 I found Christopher Buckley's writing very amusing. Too bad I'm never going to read him again...

28 Christopher Buckley is well-known (well, not really, but to the extent that he IS known) solely because of who his father was. No other reason. If he was Christopher Dingleschmidt, he'd be an aspiring author making lattes at Starbucks.

29 Maybe Logan's Run had it right.

Hard to argue with nekkid Jenny Agutter.

30 I didn't know he was a writer. He never got a mention on the Sunday book thread.

31 I'm sure I'll find time to read Buckley's crap after we've defeated the left, and righted this ship. And all the other stuff I have to do. Note, changing the air in my tires always comes before reading Chris Buckley's books.

Yeah, I'm in a bad mood.

32

OT, but you know, just in case anyone's forgotten about the kinetic military action over in Libya, I saw this over at Weasel Zippers and figured I'd share:

British Military Officers Will Join Ground Fight in Libya

So...

How's that no-fly zone working out? 

*sigh*

33 OT: This is worrisome, but I think these numbers could change with a massive PR blitz. Still, it's not what I wanted to hear.

34 Lawrence of Libya!

35 Maybe Logan's Run had it right.

Don't forget to add Soylent Green into the equation.

Because Gaia wants us to recycle human bodies and eat them.

/the future seems depressing. It's a good thing that I'm mouthy and will be pretty quickly after I get into the FEMA internment camps.

36 Is Chris doing a little Ronnie Reagan to fit in with the right people? Seems so.

37
Soylent Green is old people.

38 Seems like Buckley fils throws in just enough mockery of PC to keep riding Buckley pere's coat tails, but that's it. When push comes to shove he's all in with the DC cocktail circuit crowd.

39

Miss 80s Baby:  No kidding.  It makes me think a lot of people who say they are conservative or TEA people don't really know what they're standing for.  We're so fucked.

 

40  Lawrence of Libya!

Posted by: joncelli at April 19, 2011 03:33 PM (RD7QR)

 

In these days and times it would be; Larry of Libya.

41

"But, heck, is it that far of a step from bureaucratic rationing of life-prolonging procedures to rewarding people for voluntarily killing themselves?"

I would posit that this message will be carefully crafted over time until the population will be in the position of being grateful to choose the time, place and method of their death:

"I was really hoping I'd have the opportunity to live till my daughter's college graduation, but the government's telling me they need my kidneys for transplant purposes within the next year.  I have a week to respond or they'll assume that I have no argument and will come to do the harvest next Monday...

"Hmm...

"Well, I guess I'll ask for a waiver to allow me to kill myself after the holidays.  That gives me a few more months.  Phew!  Glad I didn't book that Aruba vacation for next spring like I was considering!  Dodged a bullet there!  Sorta..."

42 Miss80'sBaby, I've pretty much given up on Glenn Beck, but for a while he was telling us something important: Get your own shzt together, because this is not going to be fun. When we have people on "our side" (whatever the hell that means anymore) being willing to vote for "anyone but Obama," we're in serious trouble.

So I'm getting the Boogie Southern Compound together, and planning for a long, bad period. I'm even buying materials to make, "Stay Off My Lawn" signs.

43 33 OT: This is worrisome, but I think these numbers could change with a massive PR blitz. Still, it's not what I wanted to hear. Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 19, 2011 03:33 PM (uVLrI) The fact that it was done by McClatchy makes me immediately skeptical.

44 I don't mind the spoilers, I wouldn't even buy one of his books used. I guess having a famous dad is difficult, but that was no reason to shit on his legacy.

45

I used to wonder why people like Buckley, Frum, et al could support Obama. Or how anyone who considered himself a Republican or Conservative could back Obama or an Obama-type.

The only answer I can come up with is that there a large percentage of the of the Republican Party, and ever some conservatives, who don't want a reduced government that doesn't interfere with our lives, but rather they simply want to rule from the right.

I think Buckley falls into that category.

Had you asked me ten years ago I would have said I was a Republican, had you asked me in 2004 I would have said I am a conservative, however now I find myself more and more leaning toward libertarians, however they seem to have their fair share of problems as well.

46 see the nation disintegrate economically and live the rest of my life in a scenario like the movie "The Postman".

You mean laughing hysterically at Kevin Costner trying to "act"? Or saving the world by delivering some mail. Or wanting to slap Tom Petty for agreeing to be a lever-throwing gondola monkey.

47 [ding dong ding dong]

MR. BROWN: Yes?

MAN: Hello. Uhh, can we have your liver?

MR. BROWN: My what?

MAN: Your liver. It's a large, ehh, glandular organ in your abdomen.

ERIC: [sniff]

MAN: You know, it's, uh,-- it's reddish-brown. It's sort of, uhh,--

48

"In these days and times it would be; Larry of Libya."

 

I thought his name was Steve?

49

Ace calles Christopher Buckley Bill Buckley's retarded offspring. I concur.

I think "Minor Spoiler" has a nice ring to it.

50 I wanted to beat him with a sock full of D-cell batteries for writing "rara avis.". Fucking cock knuckle. Replace "rare bird" with the almost identical Latin? If anyone suspected you were a powdered douchestocking totally smitten with your own perceived erudition, they're sure of it now. * *Oh, yes! I was an English major before I drank myself into the Army, where I learned that violence solves everything. All things that you want to die, anyway.

51 39 Miss 80s Baby:  No kidding.  It makes me think a lot of people who say they are conservative or TEA people don't really know what they're standing for.  We're so fucked.

From watching the Luntz special and reading about some of the town halls, I think people can understand if someone explains this all to them. But it's going to take a lot of education for them to understand that you can't just cut foreign aid or waste and balance the budget. The entirety of the Republican House was taught how to sell this (for several months in fact), so they all need to get on this and get ahead of this DCCC ad buy.

52

"Well, I guess I'll ask for a waiver to allow me to kill myself after the holidays.  That gives me a few more months.  Phew!  Glad I didn't book that Aruba vacation for next spring like I was considering!  Dodged a bullet there!  Sorta..."

Posted by: MWR at April 19, 2011 03:38 PM (4df7R)

 

"Also been thinking of the afterlife a lot.  The muzzies say I could have 72 virgins.  I don't know.  I think I'd rather have an experienced Thai hooker with big tits.  The good lord provides, as they say.  Uph, there's the doorbell.  I guess they're here.  Well, gotta go". 

53

The only answer I can come up with is that there a large percentage of the of the Republican Party, and ever some conservatives, who don't want a reduced government that doesn't interfere with our lives, but rather they simply want to rule from the right.

 

It's statists, all the way up.  The limited-government types are few and far-between, and tend to term limit themselves out, out of a sense of decency unfelt by the brazen tyrants that end up ruling for life.  See: Boehner, John

54 43 33 The fact that it was done by McClatchy makes me immediately skeptical.

Me too, and they did some push-polling, but the difficulty is I haven't seen numbers much different. Still waiting for Ras but this was always going to be an uphill battle. That's one of the reasons why so many in the House never wanted to touch a number of these things, is because it's so incredibly dangerous politically. But I really do believe that these polls could change if every conservative in the House was out there talking about these issues and helping people to understand what's at stake.

55 I liked Florence of Arabia, too. 

I'll never understand how someone with enough raw intelligence to write a good book can have the stupidity and lack of insight not to have seen exactly what Obama was going to be like as President.  The guy was completely readable during the 2008 campaign to anyone with a brain and two open eyes.

56 You know what?  There are plenty of other authors out there.  Eff that frickin douche Buckley.

57 I think we need to keep pumping up Trump so that Zero will focus his fire on him while he burns in on an awesome kamikaze candidacy. Then with the shields down, the real guys go in for the attack: We can't be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution -- but from annihilation. We're fighting for our right to live, to exist. And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice: "We will not go quietly into the night! We will not vanish without a fight! We're going to live on! We're going to survive!" Today, we celebrate our Independence Day! I could see Trump as Randy Quaid. Or the other way around.

58 Miss80'sBaby, that's a good point, and it harkens back to my drumbeating, boring rant about "our side" being lame as all-get-out when putting on a show.

It's all "a show." Even one person in front of a room with only thirty people is still a show (of sorts), and should be run as such. You don't need the speaker to be aware of it, you just need the setup folks to be aware of it.

Get the lights right. Get a good PA, with a good mic. Make sure everyone can see the speaker. Make sure the speaker is able to control the room with the mic.

And then have people with the guts to talk straightforwardly to the people on that stage.

59
OT
Don't know if anyone has brought this up yet.  There seems to be a connection between spending taxpayer money and stupidity. The proof. And we wonder why gubmint programs don't accomplish the goals they're supposed to.

Posted by: nerdygirl at April 19, 2011 03:06 PM (SfSiO)

Depends on who made the capes and their relationship to the person who wrote the check. Corruption, while evil, isn't necessarily stupid.

60 To hell with Trump.

We're talkin' embarassing children in this thread.

61 58 Miss80'sBaby, that's a good point, and it harkens back to my drumbeating, boring rant about "our side" being lame as all-get-out when putting on a show....

I agree. It's also a great advantage the Dems have because they combine fear tactics with great presentations and it's easy for uninformed voters to fall for that because the logic of the situation was dwarfed by the level presentation. So I wish we lived in a society where people were able to just focus on substance but that's not been true for some time now. Thus, our side needs to make a logical presentation of facts in an appealing and relatable way.

62 There is another Asia Minor chick doing Hardees commercials. Free free Constantinople.

63
Nothwithstanding what may have happened to Christopher since, Buckley's No Way Treat a First Lady is flat out hilarious, combining the best elements of the Clinton marriage and the OJ trial.  <spoiler alert, but its okay since Buckley once gave away the ending to one of Tom Clancy's novels> Imagine that just after drilling Barbra Streisand in the Lincoln Bedroom, Bill comes back to the residence only to be beaned by Hilary in the coconut with an antique spittoon.  Bill is discovered ... ahem ... stiff ... in his bed the next morning.  Hilary is charged with murder and is defended in the latest trial of the century by the long lost law school love she threw over in favor of Bill. <end spoiler alert>  Pretty damn funny stuff.

64 Fuck Christopher Buckley.

65 "I'll never understand how someone with enough raw intelligence to write a good book can have the stupidity and lack of insight not to have seen exactly what Obama was going to be like as President."

It runs in  the family actually.
Google Edgar Smith, a man who murdered a 15 year old girl, and WFB's role in getting him out of prison.  Edgar Smith almost succeeded in killing another victim.
Who knows how many girls he killed before he got caught.

I always admired WFB but he has a lot of blood on his hands.

66

"I was really hoping I'd have the opportunity to live till my daughter's college graduation, but the government's telling me they need my kidneys for transplant purposes within the next year.  I have a week to respond or they'll assume that I have no argument and will come to do the harvest next Monday...

"Hmm...

"Well, I guess I'll ask for a waiver to allow me to kill myself after the holidays.  That gives me a few more months.  Phew!  Glad I didn't book that Aruba vacation for next spring like I was considering!  Dodged a bullet there!  Sorta..."

Posted by: MWR at April 19, 2011 03:38 PM (4df7R)

"I suppose its only fair, after years of discrimatory health care mal-distributions , that my organs be harvested so an alcholic, 85 year old diabetic minority woman can have a second chance. She should probably receive my estate too."

"See, Sarah Palin was wrong. There are no death panels. There are organ harvest panels. Boy was she stupid!"

"Death panels, my foot. Amputation Panels please."

67 Perhaps all of Buckley's good books are from the period of time before the check from his dad's estate cleared.

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