October 04, 2011

Today's Schedule:
Chris Christie Presser at 1:00pm;
Bill Kristol Suicide at 1:05pm

— Gabriel Malor

All sources say that Big Man is once again going to announce that he is not running for the presidency. All sources except for Fox News, which spent a good 30 minutes suggesting that it had sources who said he would be running for the presidency. Guy Benson's take is probably the best I've seen.

The announcement will take place at 1pm EASTERN (just under half an hour from now). You can watch it live on the web and probably on every news channel in the United States.

Confirmed: Christie says "now is not my time." Note that unlike the President Christie managed to show up just when he said he would.

So . . . second look at Paul Ryan?

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 08:39 AM | Comments (388)
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1 Should read: Bill Kristol, Ann Coulter double suicide at 1:05 PM.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2011 08:40 AM (GQ8sn)

2 Well, Perry's still my man, but I would have enjoyed Christie in the debates.  He would have crushed Mitt. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (5H6zj)

3 This just in: Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Posted by: Nighthawk at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (OtQXp)

4 YAWN.......Fox will have a group orgasm if he jumps in the circle-jerk!

Posted by: giftogab at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (SPVfc)

5 Dear Dinosaur Media

Aren't you tired of covering for the SCOAMF?

Posted by: The Public at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (kPT11)

6 Let's list all the suicides.

I can add Joe Scarborough.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (OhYCU)

7 I'm not watching

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 08:41 AM (OhYCU)

8 Anyone but Mitt Huntsgrich.

Posted by: Bob Saget at October 04, 2011 08:42 AM (F/4zf)

9 1 Should read: Bill Kristol, Ann Coulter double suicide at 1:05 PM. Posted by: EC at October 04, 2011 12:40 PM (GQ8sn) Christie eats ham at 1:06.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 08:42 AM (RD7QR)

10 I keep going OT so early today - sorry!

But this really is your feel good story of the day.

"It's all revolutionary fun....until some homeless drunk starts vomiting near your tent."

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 08:42 AM (Angta)

11 I'll be so glad to quit hearing about Christie. Get lost, RINO fat man.

Posted by: The Thing (unreduxed) at October 04, 2011 08:43 AM (OlN4e)

12 @ 10

I like the idea of sewer rats in their tents.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (kPT11)

13 Christie eats ham at 1:06.

Even better:  Christie eats a small, fried pig at 1:06.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (GQ8sn)

14 Can I still give him bl-w j-bs?

Posted by: Bill Kristol at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (VxqUc)

15 I'm hoping he'll announce his support for Nucky Thompson's candidacy.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (umH4+)

16 12, That's kind of redundant is it not?

Posted by: GM creditors. at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (ZDUD4)

17 Since Tepid Air posted a Richard Cohen screed from WaPoo saying that Christie would make Cohen wet his pants and cry because he's such a big meanie and bully, I'm having second thoughts about Big Chris running.

Seems to me this is EXACTLY what we need!

In fairness -- as "Poppin' Fresh" would say -- Perry or Cain might make Cohen dissolve in girlish tears, too. I sure as hell hope so.

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 04, 2011 08:44 AM (YjjrR)

18

Someone remind me why Christie is more qualified for the Presidency now than Palin was for the Vice Presidency in 2008.

I'm not trying to start a fight (okay, I am, because you're ugly), but I thought we decided that first-term governors weren't generally the best bets?

Long story short, there's no Great Conservative Hope out there now, so we're going to have to muddle through with the field we have.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 04, 2011 08:45 AM (zgHLA)

19 as a Christie guy who just keeps quiet when the cries of "RINO!" start I'm leaning towards a sad no. Christie obv. has many clamoring for him to run but alas unlike Washington & Eisenhower he's gonna stick to "no". We're stuck with the field we have and it's coming down to Cain - Perry - Romney

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:45 AM (3XDPM)

20 RINO rhino, go away already.

Posted by: fava beans and a nice chianti at October 04, 2011 08:45 AM (QDOTY)

21 14, Sure, after you wrestle my skinny ass for his glorious flubber.

Posted by: Ann Coulter at October 04, 2011 08:45 AM (ZDUD4)

22

The RINO field we have, I should say.

Well, that's not fair to Romney.  (He's a Socialist.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at October 04, 2011 08:46 AM (zgHLA)

23 Christie can get back to hyping Global Warming now.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 08:46 AM (OhYCU)

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 04, 2011 08:46 AM (TVvXc)

25

10...."It's all revolutionary fun....until some homeless drunk starts vomiting near your tent."

O/T? ....Oh, I don't know. ....Vomiting seems somewhat appropriate for this topic.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 04, 2011 08:46 AM (63L/a)

26

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 12:41 PM (5H6zj)

Y-Not join me in the neutral field, it's fun, Perry is imploding faster then the 2011 Red Suxs

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:47 AM (3XDPM)

27 In fairness -- as "Poppin' Fresh" would say -- Perry or Cain might make Cohen dissolve in girlish tears, too. I sure as hell hope so. Posted by: MrScribbler at October 04, 2011 12:44 PM (YjjrR) Little old ladies who accidentally step on his foot make Cohen dissolve into girlish tears. Florence King used to call him the WaPo's "resident oh dear."

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 08:47 AM (RD7QR)

28 Christie hyped his fake candidacy to help Palin, by tricking the RINO pundits into writing that he had enough experience.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 08:47 AM (OhYCU)

29 Y-Not join me in the neutral field, it's fun, Perry is imploding faster then the 2011 Red Suxs

  With a little help from the media... They loves them some Mitt....

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (5Wl/f)

30 Christie guy who just keeps quiet when the cries of "RINO!" start

He doesn't like the concept of a weight comparison.

Posted by: WalrusRex at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (TVvXc)

31 Honestly, other than Ann Coulter......Who cares?

Posted by: © Sponge at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (UK9cE)

32 Maybe once he gets this presser out of the way, he can go back an appoint another terror-supporting muzzie judge.

Posted by: fava beans and a nice chianti at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (QDOTY)

33 28, Christie helping Palin? Thats new.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (ZDUD4)

34 My only regret about Christie not running is that he'd take Mitt out and that would be worth it.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (nxptv)

35 Bill Kristol pimps Guiliani presidential chances in 5...4...3...

Posted by: phreshone at October 04, 2011 08:48 AM (T3vCe)

36 35 Bill Kristol pimps Guiliani presidential chances in 5...4...3...

  Attack at will..... I like Rudy....

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at October 04, 2011 08:49 AM (5Wl/f)

37 All sources say that Big Man is once again going to announce that he is not running for the presidency.

LOL, that's what I said 2 hour ago. We'll know soon.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 08:49 AM (M9Ie6)

38 With a little help from the media... They loves them some Mitt....

Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at October 04, 2011 12:48 PM (5Wl/f)

agreed plus both the far right and RINO part of the party

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:49 AM (3XDPM)

39 35, Kristol sux more rino pecker than a homely lonely female zoo keeper.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 08:50 AM (ZDUD4)

40

In my view, the Republican attack on Obama has to be focused on four main issues:

1.   His extraordinarily poor record on job creation.

2.   Repealing Obamacare.

3.   Reining in federal spending.

4.   His lack of executive experience/incompetence.

We already have a leading candidate (Romney) who, if nominated, would make us give up on one of these issues (Obamacare) because of his prior positions.   We don't need another candidate (Christie) who would make us give up on another issue (Obama's lack of executive experience).   Sure, Christie is competent as a governor, but it's only been less than two years.   He's just not ready.

We've tried "not ready" already.   Let's try "ready" for a change.   That means Romney or Perry in the current field, or else someone better put the thumbscrews on Mitch Daniels' wife and get him back in the race.

Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 04, 2011 08:50 AM (qHCyt)

41 Krispy Kremes in Iowa hit hardest

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 08:50 AM (136wp)

42

Maybe Rupert Murdoch finally convinced Christie to run?

I mean.....why do this big presser event just to say "No" again.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 04, 2011 08:51 AM (63L/a)

43

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 12:48 PM (nxptv)

Romney fears the fat man, even if Christie loses he'd take Romney votes away like Huckster did to him in 08

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:51 AM (3XDPM)

44
But this really is your feel good story of the day.

"It's all revolutionary fun....until some homeless drunk starts vomiting near your tent."
Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 12:42 PM

"As I headed to my tent at 3 a.m., I noticed a number of homeless people had joined the camp. They looked delighted to have the new donated pillows and blankets, but they didnÂ’t appear to support the strict no-drugs, no-alcohol policy."

Dude, no beer or bongs? But man these protesting chicks are fat and hairy!

Posted by: kbdabear at October 04, 2011 08:51 AM (Y+DPZ)

45

I mean.....why do this big presser event just to say "No" again.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 04, 2011 12:51 PM (63L/a)

don't get me excited now...

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:52 AM (3XDPM)

46 Oh well.  Looks like it's Romney or bust.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 08:52 AM (hIWe1)

47 We already have a leading candidate (Romney) We? you got a socialist mouse in your pocket?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 08:52 AM (ZDUD4)

48 Woman on from The Hill now saying he is NOT going to run.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 08:53 AM (M9Ie6)

49

...or else someone better put the thumbscrews on Mitch Daniels' wife and get him back in the race.

no to Daniels, that bandwaggon was over months ago

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:53 AM (3XDPM)

50

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 12:52 PM (hIWe1)

really? i'm shocked you'd take that position/s

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (3XDPM)

51

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 12:52 PM (hIWe1)

really? i'm shocked you'd take that position/s

I love you Jeff, your my fav squish on the blog

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (3XDPM)

52 No surprise, if he ran he wouldn't win the nomination anyways plus he'd lose the Governorship. This way he still has a chance to win re-election.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (SR3Ru)

53 Thank God he's not running. Don't want another POTUS get stuck in me.

Posted by: White House bath tub at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (xZmRN)

54 May we queer Pataki now?

Posted by: icepick at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (o0Uno)

55 46 Oh well.  Looks like it's Romney or bust.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 12:52 PM (hIWe1)

 

Yay!  More big government and guilt-driven spending.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 08:54 AM (nxptv)

56 Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 12:52 PM (hIWe1)

If Romney is the nominee, he will lose to Obama.


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (FkKjr)

57 Maybe if we gave Fred Thompson uppers and his wife promised a blowjob every day of the campaign.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (RD7QR)

58 Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 12:55 PM Yep.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (ZDUD4)

Posted by: The Thing (unreduxed) at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (OlN4e)

60 Kudos on the headline, Gabriel.

Posted by: ExurbanKevin at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (JGF5l)

61 Newt!

Posted by: The Guy Who Says Newt! at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (kPT11)

62 Mitch Daniels... lol.

What a disappointment that guy. Beta loser that couldn't check his wife.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 08:55 AM (R11sw)

63 house to ask for special counsel to investigate Holder perjury

Posted by: Ma Bell at October 04, 2011 08:56 AM (kzFnw)

64 >>>Maybe once he gets this presser out of the way, he can go back an appoint another terror-supporting muzzie judge.

Um...in what world, in what universe, was the guy Christie appointed "terror supporting?"  And by the way, it's pretty obvious that you use "muzzie" pretty close to the way old racist '50s Dixiecrats used to use "n*gger." 

You're an embarrassment to the conservative coalition.  But then you're not really a conservative, are you?

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 08:56 AM (hIWe1)

65

If Romney is the nominee, he will lose to Obama.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 12:55 PM (FkKjr)

as a anti-Romney guy, I respectfully call BS on that

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (3XDPM)

66

#21  Ann Coulter at October 04, 2011 12:45 PM (ZDUD4)

It's so on.  It's on like Godiva on a strawberry.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (VxqUc)

67 Bob Dole hasn't had a turn yet.  Or did he?

Posted by: Bob Dole at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (QKKT0)

68

I suspect Christie is a RINO. However, since he's not a big government progressive like Romney or a "compassionate conservative" like Rick "You're All Heartless" Perry, I don't think he'd act on it, which is what I care about.

Case in point: It wouldn't surprise me if Christie was, deep down, pro-choice. However, he de-funded Planned Parenthood because New Jersey couldn't afford it.  Our economy is boned. We need someone who'll shrink the size of government. I think the big man would have been willing to do that.

Having said that, I don't think he's running.

Posted by: Palandine at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (g7D8V)

69 But man these protesting chicks are fat and hairy!

Zombietime shows us that lefty protest chicks work hard to make sure the words "I'd hit that" are never uttered at pics of them.

Posted by: EC at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (GQ8sn)

70

I hope Christie endorses one or the other.  Then I will bag on that one.

He could go wildcard and endorse Cain. 

Christie is the King maker here.

My hope is that he chastises the media and political hay makers for continuing to drag him into this shit when he has expressed his decision to not run.

 

 

Posted by: Harsh at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (BvcRQ)

71 JeffB, the only real conservative in the world.

Posted by: The Thing (unreduxed) at October 04, 2011 08:57 AM (OlN4e)

72 57 Maybe if we gave Fred Thompson uppers and his wife promised a blowjob every day of the campaign.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 12:55 PM (RD7QR)

 

I got that covered.  I love Teh Fred even after he broke my heart with that half-hearted campaign.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (nxptv)

73 If he isn't running he should shut his fat yap and get back to doing his job.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (NFRLh)

74 Yay!

Jeff's here to tell us who is and who is not a true conservative.

Exactly what the thread needed. Did I say 'yay!' already??

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (R11sw)

75 >>>We already have a leading candidate (Romney) who, if nominated, would make us give up on one of these issues (Obamacare) because of his prior positions.

Romney has promised to repeal Obamacare.  Of course, it's not under his direct control, which is why we need the House and the Senate to act, but even on Day One he's promised to halt it in its tracks by granting a 50-state waiver.

So why again do you insist he won't?  Is just because, if you say it enough, it will psychologically justify in your mind not supporting him in the general election?

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (hIWe1)

76

46 Oh well. Looks like it's Romney or and bust.


Romney is the exception to the meme "anyone could beat Obama".  ...Too many people would just stay home, just like they did in '08.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (63L/a)

77 Of course I've heard of Chris Christie! Van Jones, not so much...

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (90BnA)

78 I think there is a damn good chance that Romney would lose to Obama. It would be because of the same reasons McCain lost. A significant percentage of the base in the South and Midwest are likely to stay at home.

There are a lot of Bedubuas(?) out there.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 08:58 AM (M9Ie6)

79 I Like JeffB, yes he's a predictable squish I disagree with a lot, but his points are good and mostly accurate. Piss him off and you'll get a pissing match back.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 08:59 AM (3XDPM)

80 63 house to ask for special counsel to investigate Holder perjury Posted by: Ma Bell at October 04, 2011 12:56 PM (kzFnw) The WH will stonewall, the MSM will ignore the story, and the House GOP will quietly shuffle off. Alas.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 08:59 AM (RD7QR)

81 Didn't have much time to comment today, but want to say there were some great posts today.  I especially like the post from Domenech, excellent.

Oh, and it looks like we will finally get a special prosecutor in the F&F.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 04, 2011 08:59 AM (jiVmv)

82

He can still be the VP and

I can add Joe Scarborough.

 

Silver lining?


Posted by: dagny at October 04, 2011 09:00 AM (f6bS8)

83

I am glad Christie is not running. It's too early for him. Maybe after a 2nd term as governor of NJ, having built a solid unimpeachable record of turning a state economy around.

And people need to quit labeling everyone to the ideological left of Attila The Hun as a 'RINO'. Remember Bill Buckley's advice about voting for the most conservative candidate who is electable.

You will never find a candidate who shares each and every one of your positions. Find a candidate who gets the big things right and support him or her.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:00 AM (8sCoq)

84 Yay! Jeff's here to tell us who is and who is not a true conservative. Exactly what the thread needed. Did I say 'yay!' already?? Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 12:58 PM No shit, the Islam apologist asshole know it all schtick has grown tiresome.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:00 AM (ZDUD4)

85 2 "Well, Perry's still my man, but I would have enjoyed Christie in the debates.  He would have crushed Mitt." 

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 12:41 PM (5H6zj)

I think - assuming it's true he's not running - that he just felt it was too late to master the issues and prepare the ground plan for a campaign this late in the game.  I think what is happening to Perry is a symptom of what can happen when you decide to jump into the Big Leagues half-assed.

I can respect his decision for knowing his limits... but seriously question why people like him and Perry didn't start prepping 3 years ago.  Were they all so dazzled by Obama, they didn't see the amazing SCOAMF Meltdown coming from a mile off?

 

 

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:00 AM (Iaxlk)

86

If Romney is the nominee, he will lose to Obama.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 12:55 PM (FkKjr)



My friendshh, victory can most surely be achieved with a candidate approved by the entire editorial staff of the New York Times and who won't embarrass David Brooks.

Posted by: Sen. John McCain, Architect of Victory at October 04, 2011 09:00 AM (QKKT0)

87

and the House GOP will quietly shuffle off. Alas.

Take OFF! those bedroom slippers. We must MARCH!

Posted by: dagny at October 04, 2011 09:01 AM (f6bS8)

88 Maybe he'll now have time to start a foundation with Herman Cain to highlight how the black man is still kept down by whitey. That would dovetail nicely with his global warming and sharia-friendly positions.


Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 04, 2011 09:01 AM (ED4oz)

89 The business end of this here toilet plunger has 'Jeff B' all over it. Dibs.

Posted by: icepick at October 04, 2011 09:01 AM (o0Uno)

90 >>>really? i'm shocked you'd take that position/s

Hey, LMendez, you yourself said Perry was imploding at a record rate.  I mean, yes -- I'm making my accommodations with Romney, I'm getting into that "settling" phase, but what other option is there?  Perry seems semi-retarded, lacks any sort of policy vision, and continues to insult my intelligence on the one issue Romney (who vetoed in-state tuition for illegals in MA) can plausibly get to his right on.  Cain isn't a serious candidate given his complete lack of experience, tendency to frequently gaffe, and silly 9/9/9 plan.  Christie isn't running.

It's process of elimination and that leaves Romney.  If Perry magically picks up his game, then Perry will get an INSTANT second look from me.  But I'm afraid that would require him to essentially become a different canddiate than who he is.  I'm still holding out hope, but I'm pessmistic.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:01 AM (hIWe1)

91 So why again do you insist he won't?  Is just because, if you say it enough, it will psychologically justify in your mind not supporting him in the general election?

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 12:58 PM (hIWe1)

Because looking back on his history, Romney has a long history of promising lofty goals and not delivering on them.

Suspension of disbelief is required to believe he actually will bother repealing it.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (FkKjr)

92 The ghosts of Camden,  Salem,  and Harrison New Jersey are wondering what all the fuss is about.

Posted by: Dang at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (TXKVh)

93 83 Didn't have much time to comment today, but want to say there were some great posts today.  I especially like the post from Domenech, excellent.

Oh, and it looks like we will finally get a special prosecutor in the F&F.

Posted by: Guy Fawkes at October 04, 2011 12:59 PM (jiVmv) 


F&F??? Never heard of it...

Posted by: Charles Gibson at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (90BnA)

94 It would be great if the conference was called so he could do his best rendition of "fat guy in a little coat".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (zL3sb)

95 But, but, but....I'd already printed up 10,000 bumperstickers!

CHRISTIE 2012!
TOO BIG TO FAIL!!!

Posted by: proudvastrightwingconspirator at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (hyRD4)

96 And tomorrow, another unamed source close to Cristie says he is still considering. The media will continue to speculate so they can avoid Holder lying to Congress about F&F.

Posted by: The Schwalbe : © at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (UU0OF)

97 Christie: No means no.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 09:02 AM (RD7QR)

98 It's a no.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (ycuSb)

99 He says I am NOT going to run!

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (M9Ie6)

100 85 You will never find a candidate who shares each and every one of your positions. Find a candidate who gets the big things right and support him or her.

Yep. At this point, my priorities are:

1. Shrinking the Federal behemoth
2. Stopping Islamic supremacists aborad and creeping Sharia at home.

I don't trust Romney to do either one.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (kPT11)

101 If he isn't running he should shut his fat yap and get back to doing his job.

No.  He's an effective communicator- we need as many people espousing conservative principles as we can get, even if delivered by someone who isn't particularly conservative.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (Jl4kG)

102 When Christie says he's not running, he really doesn't mean it.

Posted by: kansas at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (mka2b)

103 And that's that. Back to watching Romney bore his way to the nomination.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (RD7QR)

104 Says "not my time."

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (ycuSb)

Posted by: kbdabear at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (Y+DPZ)

106 Where's that 5:2 payoff?

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (M9Ie6)

107 Fat man bows out...

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (136wp)

108 Nearly 100 posts and no one has pointed out that Obama is a stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure? Moron horde is slipping, man. I'm glad the big man isn't running yet. He needs more time doing the do in NJ. If he can get that mess in shape, Washington would be a cakewalk.

Posted by: MDH3 at October 04, 2011 09:03 AM (NMxmz)

109 109 Where's that 5:2 payoff?

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 01:03 PM (M9Ie6)

present your chit, sir.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 09:04 AM (136wp)

110 Chris Christie?

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 04, 2011 09:04 AM (zL3sb)

111 He says I am NOT going to run!

Phew!

Posted by: tectonic plates everywhere at October 04, 2011 09:04 AM (xZmRN)

112

Romney has promised to repeal Obamacare.  Of course, it's not under his direct control, which is why we need the House and the Senate to act, but even on Day One he's promised to halt it in its tracks by granting a 50-state waiver.

So why again do you insist he won't?  Is just because, if you say it enough, it will psychologically justify in your mind not supporting him in the general election?

I wasn't saying Romney wouldn't repeal Obamacare.   He's actually pretty good on the substance.   It's just that as a campaign issue he wouldn't be able to use his opposition to Obamacare as effectively as another candidate who didn't have the Massachusetts version as baggage.

And, believe me, I'll support Romney whole-heartedly if he's the nominee, just as I'd support any Republican.

 

Posted by: The Regular Guy at October 04, 2011 09:04 AM (qHCyt)

113

Vic at October 04, 2011 12:58 PM

Anyone who stays home this time regardless of who the GOP nominates is a Obama supporter period.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 09:04 AM (kaOJx)

114

Christie- I'm absolutely not running for president.  Move on.  Get over it.  Seriously.

Bill Kristol- So you're saying there's a chance...

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (nxptv)

115 Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (wnbjH)

116 88

If Romney is the nominee, he will lose to Obama.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 12:55 PM (FkKjr)



No, no he won't: a Ham Sandwhich could beat Obama in 2012.  Come to think of it, President Sandwhich would do a better job of running the country, simply by not getting in the way of the American people.

The real tragedy of Romney getting the nomination - and I'm slowly resigning myself to him getting it - is that we conservatives will have missed the best chance we'll have for the rest of our natural lifetimes since Reagan of seeing a true conservative elected President.  It always vexes me the Democrats went hard, hard left in 2008, and WON.  Meanwhile, we psyched ourselves into believing we could win only by being more like Obama. 

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (Iaxlk)

117 102 He says I am NOT going to run!

Wait..if the reporter says that he's not going to run and then the Big Man says he's not going to run, that's a double negative (not not) and hence...he's going to run!!!

Yippie!!!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (9hSKh)

118 I'm not a Christie fan, but I think he is doing the right thing and in the future if he wants to run, barring he doesn't die from congestive heart failure, he has improved his chances with this decision.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (ZDUD4)

119 Chris Christie is ready for lunch!

Posted by: Dave in Texas at October 04, 2011 09:05 AM (PjVdx)

120 You will never find a candidate who shares each and every one of your positions. Find a candidate who gets the big things right and support him or her.

It would be nice though to have one that shares at least ONE.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 09:06 AM (M9Ie6)

121 Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

Yo.

Posted by: Lyndon Baines Johnson at October 04, 2011 09:06 AM (QKKT0)

122 111 Nearly 100 posts and no one has pointed out that Obama is a stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure? Moron horde is slipping, man.

5

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:06 AM (kPT11)

123 This just makes Romney's nomination more likely.   Perry, and even Cain, ACTUAL CANDIDATES, were overshadowed by a rumor.

Posted by: ParisParamus at October 04, 2011 09:06 AM (A70ed)

124

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 01:05 PM (nxptv) 

Like that scene from Dumb and Dumber.

Lloyd: "You mean not good like 1 out of 100?"

Mary: "I'd say more like 1 out of a million."

Lloyd: "So you're telling me there's a chance. Yeah! I read ya."

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 04, 2011 09:06 AM (9hSKh)

125 Thank God, I can breathe again!

Posted by: Ann Coulter's vibrator at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (Y+DPZ)

126 Even with Obamacare and the northeastern handicap Romney is not as unattractive a figure as McCain.

Posted by: dagny at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (DgwVe)

127 Romney has promised to repeal Obamacare.  Of course, it's not under his direct control, which is why we need the House and the Senate to act, but even on Day One he's promised to halt it in its tracks by granting a 50-state waiver.

So why again do you insist he won't?  Is just because, if you say it enough, it will psychologically justify in your mind not supporting him in the general election?

My concern- a very well founded one I believe- is that he'd only try to repeal aspects of Obamacare that were unpopular.  Mitt lives and dies by focus groups and poll testing so I could easily see him going squishy if 51% of the public went the other way.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (Jl4kG)

128 Water still wet.

Posted by: Waterhouse at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (umH4+)

129 Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

Yo.

Posted by: Lyndon Baines Johnson at October 04, 2011 01:06 PM (QKKT0)

Lol

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (wnbjH)

130 If anything, as president, it would've been fun to hear him take on the press.  He's quite a personality.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (ycuSb)

131 It ain't over until the Fat Lady sings...just sayin'

Posted by: Dandy Don Merideth at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (90BnA)

132

as a anti-Romney guy, I respectfully call BS on that

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban Curious) at October 04, 2011 12:57 PM (3XDPM)

Mitt Romney's track record on elections is very, very bad, and Obama is going to have a billion dollars to capitalize on Mitt's numerous gaffes.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 09:07 AM (FkKjr)

133 "Did not feel right in my gut". hmmm

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 09:08 AM (136wp)

134 AoS is like a daytime drama.....you can step away for three months and come back fully caught up with the plot as things don't never change from day to day.

Some will act as if they really wanted to go out on a limb and not elect the big money man RINO, but gosh darn it!  There's just not one single electable person in the field. So they'll make their point in underscore or ALLCAPS. Because YOU'RE RETARDED AND YOU JUST DON'T GET HIS (WHOOPS, DID I SAY 'HIS' - OH WELL), HIS POINT SO ALLCAPS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GO TO GET THROUGH TO THE UNWASHED RETARDS ON THE BLOG.

Commence the pile-on.

Rinse and repeat.


Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:08 AM (R11sw)

135 Pointless press conference is pointless

Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 04, 2011 09:08 AM (SB0V2)

136 You know who this helps?


Mitt Romney




(Sorry, had to be done and I haven't read all the responses if somebody beat me to it...)

Posted by: Uncle Mikey at October 04, 2011 09:08 AM (umot9)

137

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 01:01 PM (hIWe1)

dude I know where your coming from but like you feel about Perry I feel about Romney. Yo tend to go squish so i'm poking fun at it. Look I like you, i've always said your my fav squish to read on this blog. and your a much better Romney guy then most clowns on here.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:08 AM (yAor6)

138 No, no he won't: a Ham Sandwhich could beat Obama in 2012.

Would you like to hear my views on wheat subsidies?

Posted by: Hamilton Sandwich at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (Y+DPZ)

139 Someone call Marco Rubio

Posted by: Dave at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (Xm1aB)

140 If Romney is the nominee and does win in 2012, what good is it? Really? Will he advance conservatism any? Probably not.

Will he be able to solve or work on the entitlements in a conservative way? Probably not.

I'm not sure why people are all "Romney can win" - so what if he does?

Posted by: lorien1973 at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (usXZy)

141 Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

Someone whom the press refuses to believe when he says "no".

Listening to him, it does sound like the reports that he was reconsidering his decision were true though.  He reconsidered, but decided to stick to his original decision not to run.


Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (Jl4kG)

142 64 >>>Maybe once he gets this presser out of the way, he can go back an appoint another terror-supporting muzzie judge.

Um...in what world, in what universe, was the guy Christie appointed "terror supporting?"  And by the way, it's pretty obvious that you use "muzzie" pretty close to the way old racist '50s Dixiecrats used to use "n*gger." 

You're an embarrassment to the conservative coalition.  But then you're not really a conservative, are you?

Here ya go: http://tinyurl.com/3ukx297

Maybe you don't believe that Hamas is a terror group. RINO much? You, sir, are certainly no conservative.

Posted by: fava beans and a nice chianti at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (QDOTY)

143 Sarah Palin will be co-hosting (with Glenn Beck) the "Defending The Republic" event in St. Louis, MO this Friday LINK

With Christie out, the table is set ...

Sarah Palin 2012
For The Win

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (HjPtV)

144 Well.. that's settled now..  Now, if Sarah would just officially bow out, we can get down to getting a nominee.

I think it will end up being Romney, who will beat Obama handily - contrary to the naysayers around here.  I'm still hoping Perry bounces back, but I doubt he can get enough votes to take the nomination.. well see.

One interesting possibility is that neither candidate gets enough.. that would make for a wild convention!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (f9c2L)

145 Bobby Jindal!

Posted by: The Guy Who Says Bobby Jindal! at October 04, 2011 09:09 AM (kPT11)

146 It would be nice though to have one that shares at least ONE.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 01:06 PM (M9Ie6)

 

so you're saying that no candidate in the current GOP field shares even one of your political beliefs...

If you're not engaging in internet hyperbole, which I suspect you are, I would suggest your standards and expectations may be just a tad high.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (8sCoq)

147 @ 126,, but I feel so much better when I see it all written out.

Posted by: MDH3 at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (NMxmz)

148 No, no he won't: a Ham Sandwhich could beat Obama in 2012. 

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 01:05 PM (Iaxlk)

Mitt Romney is not a ham sandwich.  But he will try to pretend he is one if he thinks that's what people want.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (FkKjr)

149 Rush is killing me. Says Barbara Bush told Mrs Christi that you don't have to dress up weird and go to target or plant gardens. It's really fine.

Posted by: dagny at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (DgwVe)

150

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 01:08 PM (R11sw)

 

YOU'RE RETARDED AND YOU JUST DON'T GET IT!

You forgot the italics and bolding.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (nxptv)

151

Note that unlike the President Christie managed to show up just when he said he would.

Now that is some prime, prime bitchiness.  I approve. 

Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

Someone who keeps saying no and about whom people keep saying that no means yes and who is really truly and utterly fed up about it?  Just a random stab in the dark.  I'm still trying to get those who claimed that Christie was being coy about his intentions to provide me anything that Christie said himself that was anything other than a no to justify blaming him for the speculation. 

Posted by: alexthechick at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (VtjlW)

152 With Christie out, the table is set ... hey look at him. With Christie the table is always set

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (i6RpT)

153 "Sarah Palin 2012
For The Win"

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 01:09 PM (HjPtV)

 

*Eyes Roll*

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (Iaxlk)

154 That means Romney or Perry in the current field, or else someone better put the thumbscrews on Mitch Daniels' wife and get him back in the race.

I think Daniels got out because he was deferring to his wife; as I understand the back story, they got back together after she left him so that some other dude could put the thumbscrews to her ... and the ball gag, etc.  At least he didn't get cuckolded ... that we know of anyway.

Seriously, if your old lady runs off on you for another guy, and then comes back to use you as the backup plan when Plan A doesn't turn out the way she hoped it would, and then puts the kibosh on the political dream of a lifetime, then she's far more trouble than she's worth.  She must give toe-curlers or something.

Posted by: Max Hitpoints at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (8/DeP)

155

And people need to quit labeling everyone to the ideological left of Attila The Hun as a 'RINO'.

hear! hear!

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:10 AM (yAor6)

156 Alas, all the "El Jefte" jokes I had planned will now go unused.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (mg08E)

157 With Christie out, the table is set ...

With Christie the table is always set.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (kPT11)

158 Paul Ryan?? Fuggedaboutit.. he ain't running.. and he isn't prez-level material.. vice-prez? yeah!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (f9c2L)

159 Y'know the folks we should be pissed at are the liberal teachers that put this shit in those poor things heads that are gathering everywhere but don't know why, when we have had enough and start culling the herd they should be the first ones to cull, not the dopes on the streets hell we can just run over them they don't have enough sense to get out of the way.


Happy Tue. boys and girls, making a big pot of off the boat yesterday jumbo shrimp gumbo mmmm, mmmm, mmm!

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (UjnTk)

160 @ 159 Dang, beat me

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (kPT11)

161 160 "Sarah Palin 2012
For The Win"

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 01:09 PM (HjPtV)

 

*Eyes Roll*

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 01:10 PM (Iaxlk)

 

I forgot the underlining.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (Iaxlk)

162
Look, Senator, if you win, you'll get the Secret Service, and live in the White House behind that big fence. There's no way in hell I'd be able to get into your garbage anymore.

Isn't it worth running (and winning) for that alone?

Posted by: Ace's appeal to Marco Rubio to run for POTUS at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (xZmRN)

163 >>>My concern- a very well founded one I believe- is that he'd only try to repeal aspects of Obamacare that were unpopular.  Mitt lives and dies by focus groups and poll testing so I could easily see him going squishy if 51% of the public went the other way.

Don't think this hasn't occurred to me.  It's my biggest fear with Romney as well. 

But my biggest fear with Perry is "second term of Obama," which trumps that wholesale.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:11 AM (hIWe1)

164

With Christie out, the table is set ...

AHOY!

Posted by: PALINISTO! at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (NFRLh)

165

Well.. that's settled now..  Now, if Sarah would just officially bow out, we can get down to getting a nominee.

I think it will end up being Romney, who will beat Obama handily - contrary to the naysayers around here.  I'm still hoping Perry bounces back, but I doubt he can get enough votes to take the nomination.. well see.

I agree with this whole analysis

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (yAor6)

166 Being Barack Obama means never having to be on time. Or care about how he keeps employees in the private sector waiting. It's a govt. thing.

Posted by: Barack Obama at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (XhzTz)

167 Earlier I was saying 'yay!'

And then I read this --

Sarah Palin 2012
For The Win

And now I'm saying 'Weeeeeeeeeeeee!!!1!!!1!!!!'


Posted by: lu saying Weeeeeeeeee!!!!1!1!!!!! at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (R11sw)

168 149 Sarah Palin will be co-hosting (with Glenn Beck) the "Defending The Republic" event in St. Louis, MO this Friday LINK With Christie out, the table is set ... Sarah Palin 2012 For The Win Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 01:09 PM (HjPtV) God's teeth. She really needs to go away.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (RD7QR)

169 Cain has 9-9-9, Christie has "Nein, Nein, Nein".

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (zL3sb)

170 I'm not sure why people are all "Romney can win" - so what if he does?

I've been pretty firmly opposed to Romney, but while I don't believe he'd make a particularly conservative President, there's little doubt that he'd be more conservative than Obama.

Better a "moderate" (like most Republican presidents we've had) than a hardcore leftist.  Given the massive deficit and debt, I don't believe that Romney would go on trillion dollar spending sprees.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 09:12 AM (Jl4kG)

171 Commence the pile-on.

Rinse and repeat.


You left out the longbows. 

Posted by: alexthechick at October 04, 2011 09:13 AM (VtjlW)

172 God's teeth. She really needs to go away. Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 01:12 PM (RD7QR) I'm G-D's Dentist, what do you want to know?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2011 09:13 AM (i6RpT)

173 I am somewhat concerned about turning off the Jewish vote

Posted by: Hamilton Sandwich at October 04, 2011 09:13 AM (Y+DPZ)

174 The nation turns it's lonely eyes to Alaska.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 04, 2011 09:14 AM (bAL0J)

175 150 Well.. that's settled now..  Now, if Sarah would just officially bow out, we can get down to getting a nominee.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2011 01:09 PM (f9c2L)

 

Sarah has become the biggest cock tease.  I used to think she was pragmatic but now I think she's just reveling in the attention.  It's hard to take her seriously at this point, especially after the tv shows.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 09:14 AM (nxptv)

176 Scary other news:

Assad is desperate, Achmedthedickhead is a murderous nutjob and the hezbos are homicidal, suicidal religious fanatics.  All three together in a murder/suicide pact, wellÂ…

ItÂ’s scary.


Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 04, 2011 09:14 AM (jx2j9)

177 so you're saying that no candidate in the current GOP field shares even one of your political beliefs...

That was in response to Romney being touted. There are at least 4 candidates who support most of my positions, but:

One is a crazy libertarian who couldn't get elected dogcatcher and I wouldn't vote for anyway.
One went off the deep end over gardicil and regulary stepped on her crank
One can't avoid stepping on his dick every time he talks to Kommie Wallace (but I am still giving him a chance)
And one is being systematically being destroyed by the MFM and a lot of the Morons are listening to them.

Romney doesn't support ANY of my positions by his deeds. I do not trust his rhetoric.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 09:14 AM (M9Ie6)

178

The nation turns it's lonely eyes to Alaska.
Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 04, 2011 01:14 PM (bAL0J)

GOD NO!

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (yAor6)

179

You left out the longbows. 

 

I'm out of range for those.

Posted by: Skylined Caribou at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (NFRLh)

180 Five Dollar Footlongs for Everyone!

Posted by: Hamilton Sandwich at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (Y+DPZ)

181 Who holds a press conference to say no, again?

That's a great idea! Maybe you will finally get the message.

Posted by: That Hot Chick You Think Is Just Being Coy at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (0q2P7)

182 Christie strongly hints at a Romney endorsement there without quite saying it.  Says he'll go with "the candidate with the best shot at winning" and go whole-hog.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (hIWe1)

183

Late to the thread again.

 

Has Jeff B. come out for Palin yet?

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (qeYI9)

184
What's for lunch?

Re-hash.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (G/zuv)

185 And people need to quit labeling everyone to the ideological left of Attila The Hun as a 'RINO'.

Attila the Hun was totally into asset redistribution.  He was worse than a RINO.

Posted by: The Byzantines at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (QKKT0)

186

One is a crazy libertarian who couldn't get elected dogcatcher and I wouldn't vote for anyway.

we're not all crazy dude

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:15 AM (yAor6)

187 When all seems lost, when all is in chaos. She will come from the north. A shotgun in one hand and a copy of the constitution in the other, riding a Polar Bear named Liberty

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:16 AM (ZDUD4)

188 I can see Katie Couric's Colon From Here!!

Posted by: Sarah Palin at October 04, 2011 09:16 AM (Iaxlk)

189 Is Kodos still running?

Posted by: Homer Simpson at October 04, 2011 09:16 AM (Y+DPZ)

190

Sarah has become the biggest cock tease.  I used to think she was pragmatic but now I think she's just reveling in the attention.  It's hard to take her seriously at this point, especially after the tv shows.

Posted by: Ms Choksondik at October 04, 2011 01:14 PM (nxptv)


Word!!!

Posted by: Sarah Palin's first boy friend at October 04, 2011 09:16 AM (90BnA)

191 I really did expect him to at least endorse an R candidate at this thing. Otherwise not sure what the point was. Weird.

Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 04, 2011 09:16 AM (SB0V2)

192 Christie holds more pressers than Obama.

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (OhYCU)

193 I think it will end up being Romney, who will beat Obama handily - contrary to the naysayers around here.
-----
The media has yet to lay a glove on Mitt, but it's coming.  This myth that Romney is pre-vetted is wish-casting.  If you think Perry has problems with rocks and the Confederacy, wait 'til you see what they do with Romney. 

At the end of the day, none of the smears against Perry change his record and his record is very good, particularly when compared to the rest of the field. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (5H6zj)

194

141 You know who this helps?


Mitt Romney

No!  Not the evil super-communist Mitt Romney!

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (b68Df)

195

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 01:15 PM (hIWe1)

if Christie doesn't back Romney i'll be more shocked then when Flake did

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (yAor6)

196 I'm out of range for those.

Ballistas

Catapults

Discuss!

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (0q2P7)

197
Welcome to Ace's Bar & Grille & Nudie Theater

Today's menu features: fried re-hash, boiled re-hash, and grilled re-hash.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (G/zuv)

198 I've been pretty firmly opposed to Romney, but while I don't believe he'd make a particularly conservative President, there's little doubt that he'd be more conservative than Obama.

Biden or Reid would be more conservative than Obama.  That doesn't mean we should give them the nomination.

Half a loaf (or in Romney's case, a quarter) just ain't good enough for the problems we are facing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (FkKjr)

199 >>>Sarah has become the biggest cock tease.  I used to think she was pragmatic but now I think she's just reveling in the attention.  It's hard to take her seriously at this point, especially after the tv shows.

Quite simply: she's not running.  You know it, I know it, even her hardcore fans know it deep down inside.  It's all about playing for attention now.

The field is set.  It is who it is.  Romney vs. Perry vs. (maybe) Cain.  Maybe Cain fades and Santorum or Gingrich makes a run, I dunno. 

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (hIWe1)

200 we're not all crazy dude

Didn't say you were but he is.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (M9Ie6)

201

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM (5H6zj)

well whoever the nom is will be turned into a devil by the media

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:17 AM (yAor6)

202 Otherwise not sure what the point was. Weird. Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 04, 2011 I think it was to keep his wife from shooting Ann Coulter in the face for stalking him.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (ZDUD4)

203 197 Is Kodos still running? Posted by: Homer Simpson at October 04, 2011 01:16 PM (Y+DPZ) I ate him, so you might as well vote for me.

Posted by: Cthulhu at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (RD7QR)

204 I really don't think Christie was behind the rumors, unlike some non-declared candidates.  It's a little unfair to complain when he addresses the rumors with "no, I'm not running" but has to do so repeatedly.  Should he just sit there and not say anything? 

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (5H6zj)

205 Perry's problem doesn't start with the media. It started with his stupid "You're a heartless bastard" routine. While I despise the MFM, it's hard for me to get any more worked up about their treatment of Perry than usual. Perry's just not that interesting anymore.

Posted by: Dave at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (Xm1aB)

206 You know, it's not too late for the man everyone loves and some fap to ...

Pawlenty!

Posted by: Poppin' Fresh at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (Y+DPZ)

207

Is Kodos still running?

 

Kang has a better chance.

Posted by: garrett at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (NFRLh)

208

Posted by: Sarah Palin's first boy friend at October 04, 2011 01:16 PM (90BnA)

 

Mr. Bleu Bauls?  Is that you??

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (Iaxlk)

209 Christie holds more pressers than Obama.

The difference? He actually shows up on time and doesn't stutter through them like a bumblefuck.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (R11sw)

210

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM (M9Ie6)

I wasn't offended lol we get that rap, so I was poking at myself

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (yAor6)

211

Christie didn't feel prepared to run for President and was honest with himself.

Perry obviously isn't prepared to run for national office, but is apparently oblivious to that fact.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (b68Df)

212 if Christie doesn't back Romney i'll be more shocked then when Flake did

Flake's endorsement was entirely predictable. 

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 09:18 AM (5H6zj)

213 Today's menu features: fried re-hash, boiled re-hash, and grilled re-hash.

As long as there is no Spam.

Posted by: Mrs. Bun at October 04, 2011 09:19 AM (136wp)

214 Christie isn't running? You know who this benefits? That's right...Willard Romney!

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at October 04, 2011 09:19 AM (y07gN)

215
Andrew Breitbart shoulda went to Christie's press conference and spoke before him.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:19 AM (G/zuv)

216 Today's menu features: fried re-hash, boiled re-hash, and grilled re-hash.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM (G/zuv)

Ummm... I'll have some rehashed rehash, please!

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (Iaxlk)

217 To the Palinistas:

It's one thing to say some bloopers--every candidate does. It's quite another to act in a way totally inconsistent with presidential potential, as in:

1. Quitting her term early to end those pesky lawsuits and make $--this is leadership?
2. Reality TV show. Really tacky. Not presidential.

Your gal had a chance but blew it. Get over it.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (kPT11)

218 224, That would have been ron worthy.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (ZDUD4)

219

" it's hard for me to get any more worked up about their treatment of Perry than usual. "

Considering since Perry first entered you have been pro Romney no one expects you to.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (kaOJx)

220

Posted by: Y-not at October 04, 2011 01:18 PM (5H6zj)

I know! that's what i'm alluding to, Christie backing Romney is no big deal like Flake backing him was. Christie backing someone else would be a shocker but i'm not holding my breath

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (yAor6)

221 212 He could just simply issue a statement or release each time saying "uh, still no." Actually I think he had nearly been convinced to run, and in his mind his "new" decision not to be cajoled by whomever was important enough for a presser.

Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (SB0V2)

222 Quite simply: she's not running.  You know it, I know it, even her hardcore fans know it deep down inside.  It's all about playing for attention now.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM (hIWe1)

Great, so let's make a deal. If she doesn't run, I won't mention her on here again, and if she does run, you won't mention her on here again (every two seconds).

Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 04, 2011 09:20 AM (zL3sb)

223 Should he just sit there and not say anything?

He also didn't decide to go unconventional! and rogue! and shit all over another candidate's formal announcement.

That to me will always stick in my craw. Classy broad that one.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (R11sw)

224 Has anyone interrupted Paul's mouring for Alwaki to ask him for his reaction?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (Iaxlk)

226 Sarah has become the biggest cock tease.  I used to think she was pragmatic but now I think she's just reveling in the attention.

Look, Sarah's never going to be President, but I don't begrudge her cock teasing.  It's a good teasing, and ultimately she's just executing a business model.

By dabbling around the edges and looking good doing it, all the while appealing to every conservative in America with an IQ under 90 who hasn't already committed to Ron Paul, she's managed to get paid and leave herself in a politically relevant position despite her shortcomings.  There will be some races in 2012 where she is a real asset for the GOP.  All in all, I think she's played things pretty well given the hand she's holding.

In short, she's cool, it's her fanatical supporters and attackers I'd like to burn at the stake.

Posted by: Max Hitpoints at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (8/DeP)

227 Palin , and nothing else matters.

Posted by: Temper Tantrum at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (bAL0J)

228 Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 01:20 PM That Quit meme will not fly. Everyone knows why she resigned and she was wise to do so.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (ZDUD4)

229 @228 You're just a prick, aren't you?

Posted by: Dave at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (Xm1aB)

230 And people need to quit labeling everyone to the ideological left of Attila The Hun as a 'RINO'.

And people need to stop pretending that no spine squishes more can actually turn this country around. We don't have a few decades to grind on this anymore. We chewed them all up following your lead.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 04, 2011 09:21 AM (0q2P7)

231 205
Welcome to Ace's Bar & Grille & Nudie Theater

Today's menu features: fried re-hash, boiled re-hash, and grilled re-hash.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM

Spam eggs and spam, spam bacon eggs and spam, spam lobster cheese and spam ...

Posted by: Monty Python at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (Y+DPZ)

232 Did anyone spot Palin's book tour bus in the parking lot outside Christie's presser?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (Iaxlk)

233

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at October 04, 2011 01:19 PM (y07gN)

gotta give props to Hugh, he's been great at defending Perry and Cain even as a Romneybot. he's shown more class then Romneybots here.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (yAor6)

234

No shit?


I shit you not.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (G/zuv)

235
Today's menu features: fried re-hash, boiled re-hash, and grilled re-hash.

I'll have the Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam

Posted by: Chris Christie at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (136wp)

236 Great, so let's make a deal. If she doesn't run, I won't mention her on here again, and if she does run, you won't mention her on here again (every two seconds). Posted by: The Mega Independent at October 04, 2011 01:20 PM I also wish to make that pledge.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (ZDUD4)

237 >Romney doesn't support ANY of my positions by his deeds. I do not trust his rhetoric.

Posted by: Vic at October 04, 2011 01:14 PM (M9Ie6)

 

To paraphrase Rumsfeld, 'you hit the campaign trail with the candidate field you have'. Do I wish there were a Reagan-esque candidate to support? Of course. Is there a 'perfect conservative' in the current GOP field? Of course not. But if we're lucky, the campaign process will winnow the field down to the most electable conservative. But I think you would agree that we must keep our eyes fixed on the common goal: making Obama a one-term President.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:22 AM (8sCoq)

238 Biden or Reid would be more conservative than Obama.  That doesn't mean we should give them the nomination.

Half a loaf (or in Romney's case, a quarter) just ain't good enough for the problems we are facing.

Nobody would be "good enough" if they lost the general.

I'm still holding out hope for Perry to up his game, but let's face it- Perry and Romney are the only two legitimate choices we have.  The rest of the field consists mostly of unelectable vanity candidates.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (Jl4kG)

239 and nothing else matters.

Yeah, not the country apparently.

*golf clap*

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (R11sw)

240 Rand Paul! Rand Paul!

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (LyOUH)

241 Whenever someone starts a sentence with "Everyone knows," that's a fair indicator that that person has no clue what he's talking about.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (kPT11)

242

"You're just a prick, aren't you?"

No, a Dick. And you have shit on Perry since he entered the race. You are pro Romney, we get it.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (kaOJx)

243 Spam eggs and spam, spam bacon eggs and spam, spam lobster cheese and spam ...

Posted by: Monty Python at October 04, 2011 01:22 PM (Y+DPZ)

I DON'T LIKE SPAM

Posted by: Mrs. Bun at October 04, 2011 09:23 AM (136wp)

244

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 01:23 PM (R11sw)

+1000

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (yAor6)

245 Andrew Breitbart shoulda went to Christie's press conference and spoke before him.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 01:19 PM

He's busy here stealing Ace's commenters and replacing us with Pod People

Posted by: kbdabear at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (Y+DPZ)

246 @252 A prick and a liar, nice combo.

Posted by: Dave at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (Xm1aB)

247 For God's sake just finish it!

Posted by: Sarah Palin's next boyfriend at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (RD7QR)

248 251 Whenever someone starts a sentence with "Everyone knows," that's a fair indicator that that person has no clue what he's talking about.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 01:23 PM (kPT11)

Everyone knows that!

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (136wp)

249

Posted by: Sarah Palin's next boyfriend at October 04, 2011 01:24 PM (RD7QR)

+1

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:24 AM (yAor6)

250 Jeebus, did anyone actually think he would annouce? Can we have a real thread now? How about racist rocks in Perry's backyard?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (0M3AQ)

251 So...slow news day, then?

Seriously?

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (GBXon)

252

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at October 04, 2011 01:14 PM (jx2j9)

While it is scary, ballistic missile capabilities are all these three fanatical nutjob factions have to counter Israel's military prowess.  The Israelis know the terrain of the Golan Heights very well (so well that the IDF, facing 10:1 forces at times, was able to use the ground there to stall off the Syrian advance for several days during the Yom Kippur War) so the minute Syria started transferring missiles to their side of the Golan Heights, the missile sites would be wiped out by the IAF in a very short amount of times.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (9hSKh)

253 But if we're lucky, the campaign process will winnow the field down to the most electable conservative.

I'd rather see it narrowed to the most conservative electable personally.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (0q2P7)

254 Whenever someone starts a sentence with "Everyone knows," that's a fair indicator that that person has no clue what he's talking about. Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 01:23 PM Your right, I'm sorry. Everyone but you.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (ZDUD4)

255 Ann Coulter to campaign for Romney in 3...2...1..

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:25 AM (yAor6)

256
...served in a Provençale manner...

That should be our motto.

Ace of Spades

Insight & wit served in a Provençale manner since 2004.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (G/zuv)

257 Bob Dole is still here to tell you that Bob Dole will not run.

Posted by: Bob Dole at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (Y+DPZ)

258 Ron Paul, Rand Paul, I'd trust RuPaul first...

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (GBXon)

259

Dave at October 04, 2011 01:24 P

Like a good Mittens fan, you don't like the truth do you?

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (kaOJx)

260

Should read: Bill Kristol, Ann Coulter double suicide at 1:05 PM.

Nah. She said on the weekend talkies that she was already convinced that he wasn't running and was now hoping for a Romney/Cain ticket.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (LyOUH)

261 OT: christ Tampa Sports radio is the worst

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (yAor6)

262 Folks it's 14 months away and don't forget about the asteroids that are screaming towards us according to the fucktards, best to have good food in your stomach and a cold beer in your hand keeps the BP down.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 04, 2011 09:26 AM (UjnTk)

263 How about racist rocks in Perry's backyard?

Right.

Or better yet, why that was worth a day and a half of media attention when they've yet to even discuss the current fuckstick in office holding a g'damn rally with the pukes of the Black Panther party. In the same year as he's running for POTUS. This is fucking unbelievable to me. I know, I know I really shouldn't be surprised, and yet I am.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:27 AM (R11sw)

264 She will come from the north. A shotgun in one hand and a copy of the constitution in the other, riding a Polar Bear named Liberty

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 01:16 PM (ZDUD4)

I don't think Christine O'Donnell knows how to ride a polar bear.

Oh,  you were talking about her long lost twin sister.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2011 09:27 AM (D5iHx)

265 Jeebus, did anyone actually think he would annouce? Can we have a real thread now? How about racist rocks in Perry's backyard?

Posted by: Sub-Tard at October 04, 2011 01:25 PM (0M3AQ)

I read on the intewebs that Mitt Romney has Muzzihead written on the coping of his pool.

Posted by: robtr at October 04, 2011 09:27 AM (MtwBb)

266 267 Bob Dole is still here to tell you that Bob Dole will not run.

Posted by: Bob Dole at October 04, 2011 01:26 PM (Y+DPZ)

Hey, how's Liddy doin'

Posted by: Kay Hagen at October 04, 2011 09:27 AM (136wp)

267

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 01:26 PM (LyOUH)

didnt Romney say he wanted Rubio as VP?

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:28 AM (yAor6)

268 236.

Ooooh!  Violence. 

Well, I oppose burning Perry and Mitt supporters.  Our country will  need them when it's time to vote for Palin in the general.

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 09:28 AM (HjPtV)

269 Ya'll know, I haven't ruled anything out and Jeri still has a great rack

Posted by: Teh Fred! at October 04, 2011 09:28 AM (Y+DPZ)

270

Why hasn't Perry been on any of the Sunday morning shows the past couple of weeks?  You would think after such poor debate performances he would want to immediately seek out that kind of exposure to reassure people that he has a firm grasp of foreign and domestic policy.

 

 

Posted by: Reggie1971 at October 04, 2011 09:28 AM (b68Df)

271 Arms Merchant, why are you afraid of a person entering the race?

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 09:29 AM (OhYCU)

272 272 Folks it's 14 months away and don't forget about the asteroids that are screaming towards us according to the fucktards, best to have good food in your stomach and a cold beer in your hand keeps the BP down.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 04, 2011 01:26 PM (UjnTk)

We're headed to your house for the food....we'll bring the beer.

Posted by: Tami at October 04, 2011 09:29 AM (X6akg)

273 Well, I oppose burning Perry and Mitt supporters.  Our country will  need them when it's time to vote for Palin in the general.

Posted by: mrp at October 04, 2011 01:28 PM (HjPtV)

LMAO keep the jokes coming

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:29 AM (yAor6)

274 Jeebus, did anyone actually think he would annouce? Can we have a real thread now? How about racist rocks in Perry's backyard?

It doesn't end there.  We have it on good authority there's a deer living on Perry's property that goes by the name Jemima.

Posted by: The New York Times at October 04, 2011 09:29 AM (QKKT0)

275 Romney/Cain ticket

MittCain 2012

You know, I like this.

Posted by: Totally Mega McKane at October 04, 2011 09:29 AM (xZmRN)

276 272 Folks it's 14 months away and don't forget about the asteroids that are screaming towards us according to the fucktards, best to have good food in your stomach and a cold beer in your hand keeps the BP down.

Excellent advice, good sir.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (9hSKh)

277 It's so sad to see full-on psychosis on display at the HQ.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (R11sw)

278

didnt Romney say he wanted Rubio as VP?

I don't know. I didn't hear it. Coulter said that she had originally thought that, without a Christie option, she would want a Romney/Rubio ticket, but she now believes that Cain fills in the soft spots for Romney.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (LyOUH)

279 But you do have a choice. You can watch the non-announcement or you can watch the Boeing 747 flying through the clouds with Amanda Knox on board.

Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (NRygI)

280 Well, I oppose burning Perry and Mitt supporters.

Good thing, too.  The smoke from burning them is unbearable.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (GBXon)

281 NIIIII*********EEEEEERRRRR!!!!!!!

Posted by: Rick Perry's Racist Rock at October 04, 2011 09:30 AM (D5hxK)

282 Oh and, btw, I think Christie is making a smart decision. AND...he's perfect just where he is.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:31 AM (LyOUH)

283 I'm not sure she's going to get in, but if she does I see the end game being Palin vs Romney. It's fun to talk shit but the decision is going to be, business as usual, or blow the shit up and start over.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:31 AM (ZDUD4)

284
Have you heard the story about Mitt and his dog? Seriously.

I don't know if people outside of MA know about it.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:31 AM (G/zuv)

285 It's not my time...

Posted by: Zombie Barry Goldwater at October 04, 2011 09:31 AM (90BnA)

286

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 01:31 PM (ZDUD4)

if that's the choice I'm really gonna be pissed when I vote Jan 31st

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (yAor6)

287 283 272 Folks it's 14 months away and don't forget about the asteroids that are screaming towards us according to the fucktards, best to have good food in your stomach and a cold beer in your hand keeps the BP down. Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 04, 2011 01:26 PM (UjnTk) We're headed to your house for the food....we'll bring the beer. Posted by: Tami at October 04, 2011 01:29 PM (X6akg) Yes, I'll be there and Tami will bring the beer.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (RD7QR)

288 291 Well, I oppose burning Perry and Mitt supporters.

Good thing, too.  The smoke from burning them is unbearable.

Put up a smoke tent around your house, burn a dozen of them inside. You'll never have termites again.

Posted by: The Robot Devil at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (136wp)

289 264 Your right, I'm sorry. Everyone but you.

[rim shot]

Even if "everyone knows" why she quit, who cares? She might have had the best reason in the world. Irrelevant. She resigned for personal convenience, betraying the voters who elected her, and depriving herself of additional experience (and know, being a commenter on Fox News doesn't count as executive experience.)

Who would trust that she wouldn't get a bug up her ass and quit the Presidency, in the highly unlikely event she were elected?


Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (kPT11)

290 You know I've coded a new program that determined that the numbers on Perry's license plate translate to a racist word

Posted by: Dr Charles Martin Luther Johnson, Jr at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (Y+DPZ)

291 Sorry to interrupt the tea and shitcakes here but

"House Republicans are calling for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned."

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (kt1UQ)

292

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 01:32 PM (kPT11)

+1

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:32 AM (yAor6)

293 #10
lu,
That was hilarious.  The chick in the picture should get to a dermatologist stat.  That mole is looking pretty nasty.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (iYbLN)

294 300 And that is only one disqualification.

Posted by: Arms Merchant at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (kPT11)

295 Half a loaf (or in Romney's case, a quarter) just ain't good enough for the problems we are facing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 01:17 PM (FkKjr)

 

Look. You've seen the GOP field. These are the people we get to choose from. In a nation of over 300,000,000 people, you'd hope more talent would rise to the top, but these are the people we have to choose from. You don't get to vote for Reagan again.

Anyone who says 'the nominee isn't conservative enough for me- I'm taking my vote and going home' isn't being realistic.

Beat Obama. Just Beat Obama. It can't help but being better than where we're headed right now.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (8sCoq)

296 But I think you would agree that we must keep our eyes fixed on the common goal: making Obama a one-term President. Posted by: Jones
...............
This is where I'm at, Jones.

And.. if you read Romney's platform on his issues pages, he reads very conservative.  The problem is though, with his past record, no one believes him.

Well.. if he's the guy, we'll just have to pressure him to live up to those promises - even if it is against his nature!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (f9c2L)

297 "House Republicans are calling for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned."
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Almost had a orgasm after reading that post.

Posted by: mpfs, TPT at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (iYbLN)

298 Posted by: In awe/panic of what machines can do at October 04, 2011 01:30 PM (NRygI)

I'm hoping for a tasteful Playboy pictorial -- those legal bills won't pay themselves!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at October 04, 2011 09:33 AM (xFdca)

299
here's a quick version of the story:

Many years ago the Romney family went on a road trip.
They brought along their old dog. But Mitt didn't want the dog in the car.

So Mitt put the dog inside the roof container on top of their station wagon. Kinda like the Griswolds in the movie Vacation.

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 09:34 AM (G/zuv)

300

"House Republicans are calling for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned."

 

Right. He is AG and will say he "misunderstood" the question. He misunderstood a question at a hearing....and he didn't ask for clarification....

Attorney General

No shame at all.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:34 AM (LyOUH)

301

Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 01:34 PM (G/zuv)

LOL

Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Ban k1rwm) at October 04, 2011 09:34 AM (yAor6)

302 298,

Y'all are always welcome at Chez Nam's, we can shoot feral hogs cook good food and solve all the Republic's problems.

Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at October 04, 2011 09:35 AM (UjnTk)

303 278 didnt Romney say he wanted Rubio as VP?

He has. Also, Rubio had/has some former Romney staffers working for him.

Posted by: Miss80s at October 04, 2011 09:35 AM (d6QMz)

304 288 It's so sad to see full-on psychosis on display at the HQ.
Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 01:30 PM

I've been coming here for years for the full-on psychosis

Posted by: kbdabear at October 04, 2011 09:35 AM (Y+DPZ)

305 I know, she says that like full-on psychosis is a bad thing!

Posted by: HeartlessBlackOrchid at October 04, 2011 09:35 AM (SB0V2)

306 Eric Holder is Attorney General?  Well, I'll be...

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 04, 2011 09:36 AM (90BnA)

307 nooooo thread

Posted by: cherry pi, terrorist hostage taking SOB at October 04, 2011 09:36 AM (OhYCU)

308 > It's so sad to see full-on psychosis on display at the HQ.

Posted by: lu at October 04, 2011 01:30 PM (R11sw)

 

and every thread needs a holier-than-thou poser. Welcome!

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:36 AM (8sCoq)

309 And this just in....  Reagan is still dead.

Posted by: dfbaskwill at October 04, 2011 09:36 AM (71LDo)

310 314 278 didnt Romney say he wanted Rubio as VP? He has. Also, Rubio had/has some former Romney staffers working for him. Posted by: Miss80s at October 04, 2011 01:35 PM (d6QMz) Well, Romney/Rubio does kinda trip off the tongue. Sounds like the name of a left-handed cuban pitcher in the AAA leagues or something.

Posted by: joncelli at October 04, 2011 09:36 AM (RD7QR)

311

So Mitt put the dog inside the roof container on top of their station wagon. Kinda like the Griswolds in the movie Vacation.

At least he didn't tie it to the bumper.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:37 AM (LyOUH)

312 Why hasn't Perry been on any of the Sunday morning shows the past couple of weeks?  You would think after such poor debate performances he would want to immediately seek out that kind of exposure to reassure people that he has a firm grasp of foreign and domestic policy.

In a fantasy MSM scenario, maybe.  But he would just be assaulted with more gotcha questions relevant to nothing other than to make him out to be a racist stooge. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 04, 2011 09:37 AM (ycuSb)

313

So Mitt put the dog inside the roof container on top of their station wagon.

That's nothin'.

This one time, at Dog Fightin' Camp, I shoved a Pit Bull into a Hot Tub and tried to drown it.  Then I lynched it after I tried to electrocute it with an extension cord or some shit like that... 

Good Times.

Posted by: Michael Vick at October 04, 2011 09:37 AM (NFRLh)

314 Almost had a orgasm after reading that post.

I can help you finish. What's your Twitter handle?

Posted by: A. Weiner at October 04, 2011 09:37 AM (4Kl5M)

315 How does this impact his run for the presidency in 2012?

Posted by: franksalterego at October 04, 2011 09:38 AM (7/sDI)

316 Sorry to interrupt the tea and shitcakes here but

"House Republicans are calling for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned."

Look who just volunteered to be the lamb with blemishes.

Posted by: MikeTheMoose Camellia Sinensis Operative at October 04, 2011 09:38 AM (0q2P7)

317

and every thread needs a holier-than-thou poser. Welcome!

 

Uh, yeah.

Don't go there. Miss LU is not to be toyed with and is damned sure not a poser.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 09:38 AM (LyOUH)

318 Chris Christie just basically called Michael Kinsley an ignorant prick on national TV.   Awesome!

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:38 AM (hIWe1)

319 Actually, racist Mitt Romney said if he were POTUS of course he'd have Rubio work for him...

... to take care of the White House lawn... as cheap undocumented labor.

No really, it's true.

Posted by: MFM at October 04, 2011 09:39 AM (xZmRN)

320

You know, Michele Bachmann hasn't said or done anything stupid in at least two weeks.

Which may make her the most attractive candidate at the moment.

Posted by: Truman North aka Nose Tra Dumbass at October 04, 2011 09:39 AM (I2LwF)

321
Many years ago the Romney family went on a road trip.
They brought along their old dog. But Mitt didn't want the dog in the car.

So Mitt put the dog inside the roof container on top of their station wagon. Kinda like the Griswolds in the movie Vacation.
Posted by: soothsayer at October 04, 2011 01:34 PM

Then there was the story going around about Christie on a camping trip pinching a loaf in the woods. He sees a rabbit dropping a pellet near him and asks him if shit sticks to his fur. The rabbit says no, so Christie wiped his ass with the rabbit

Posted by: kbdabear at October 04, 2011 09:39 AM (Y+DPZ)

322 Now that the fat man is out, the latest Intrade prices are:

Romney bid $5.67 - ask $5.70
Perry $2.05 - $2.09
Cain $0.55 - $0.60
Palin $0.40 - $0.45
Huntsman $0.38 - $0.40
Paul $0.24 - $0.25
Gingrich $0.15 - $0.18
Bachmann $0.14 - $0.17
Giuliani $0.11 - $0.12

Everyone else is below 10 cents.

Posted by: Bob Saget at October 04, 2011 09:40 AM (F/4zf)

323 Ur doing it wrong Chris!

Posted by: Sarah Palin (TM) at October 04, 2011 09:40 AM (1ZnS9)

324 Cain isn't a serious candidate given his complete lack of experience, tendency to frequently gaffe, and silly 9/9/9 plan.



Ah yes, the "lack of experience" bullshit.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 04, 2011 09:40 AM (6IReR)

325 Who would trust that she wouldn't get a bug up her ass and quit the Presidency, in the highly unlikely event she were elected? That would not happen. DNC lawyers would not storm the white house and sue her into bankruptcy. But you know that already don't you? If you don't like her that's fine. Even understandable, There is an inherent risk with all candidates. I think it comes down to how much risk are you willing to take? I think the biggest risk is another compasionate conservative. I love GWB, I think he is a good man. But the government interferance with the private sector was ramp up by him and turbo charged by Obama. The country will not survive another one of those.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 09:41 AM (ZDUD4)

326 I'm hoping for a tasteful Playboy pictorial -- those legal bills won't pay themselves!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at October 04, 2011 01:33 PM (xFdca)

Funny, that's how I see the Palin story unfolding as well.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at October 04, 2011 09:43 AM (D5iHx)

327 It's so sad to see full-on psychosis on display at the HQ.

AoSHQ:  Come for the psychosis, stay for the flashbacks.

Posted by: DarkLord© sez Obama is a stuttering clusterf--- of a miserable failure
Oh, and F--- Nevada!
at October 04, 2011 09:43 AM (GBXon)

328 Van Jones? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 04, 2011 09:44 AM (BkQvr)

329 >>>Ah yes, the "lack of experience" bullshit.

Wasn't a bullshit critique when applied to Obama, now was it?  It wasn't *just* that The One was a horrible liberal, he also turned out to be an utterly craptacular politician, negotiator, consensus-builder, etc. etc.  He could actually perform the MECHANICS of the job of President because he simply lacked any experience as a political executive. 

Now I don't hate Cain -- quite the contrary, other than his weird mosque remark I really, really like him and have been thinking for awhile about how he can serve in the next GOP administration (my bet is Secretary of Commerce or perhaps Treasury) --  but the fact is that he's never run for office before in his life AND IT SHOWS.  It shows in all the gaffes he makes, the stuff that takes him off-message every single time it looks like he's threatening to 'break out' of the pack.  This election is too fucking important to put a rookie up against the Obama Machine in 2012 and pray. 

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:45 AM (hIWe1)

330

Don't go there. Miss LU is not to be toyed with and is damned sure not a poser.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 01:38 PM (LyOUH)

 

Thanks, I can take care of myself.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 09:48 AM (8sCoq)

331 But my biggest fear with Perry is "second term of Obama," which trumps that wholesale.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 01:11 PM (hIWe1)

Um, what?

Posted by: KG at October 04, 2011 09:48 AM (LD21B)

332 Would this be the same Paul Ryan who voted for TARP? I'm not sure I want that Paul Ryan.

Posted by: EvilRedScandi at October 04, 2011 09:49 AM (M+Vm5)

333 Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 01:45 PM (hIWe1)

When is it that you're going to stop equating political experience with real life experience? Have you actually ever read the man's resume?

I'll take Herman Cain's lack of "experience" over any fucking career politician's "experience" all day long. In case you haven't noticed, it's that career politician experience that's gotten us exactly where we are.

Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing at October 04, 2011 09:50 AM (6IReR)

334 Cain is a nice guy and I like his ideas, but his mouth tends to get a head of his brain.  I expect some serious Newtonian-like gaffes in the next few months that will disqualify him.

Looks at this point like a Romney/Rubio ticket and although not what I had hoped for from the beginning, I could easily live with.  With a Republican House and Senate behind him, I'm sure Romney will do a fine job.

SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND:
As it becomes apparent Republicans will take large majorities in the House and Senate, the fact that Romney is somewhat moderate will give Independents some comfort about turning the keys to government over to a single party.

Evangelicals need to get over it and vote for a Mormon.

Not perfect, not terrible.


Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 04, 2011 09:50 AM (uVlA4)

335 By the way, Conservative4Palin is now pushing for Palin to run as a third party candidate.  I'm not kidding: http://tinyurl.com/4345zra

Given that C4P is in direct coordination with Rebecca Mansour and Palin's political team, anyone want to speculate whether this is a 'trial balloon'?

By the way, if Palin runs as a third party candidate then fuck her, forever. 

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:50 AM (hIWe1)

336 Palin as 3rd party just hands election to Obama - dumbest move EVER.  Won't happen.

Posted by: Bill Mitchell at October 04, 2011 09:51 AM (uVlA4)

337 Good on Christie. We need him here in NJ.

Posted by: sauropod at October 04, 2011 09:51 AM (14aF6)

338 Don't make Michael Vick choke a bitch!

Posted by: Michael Vick at October 04, 2011 09:54 AM (NFRLh)

339 I tend to think Palin isn't stupid enough to run third-party.  If nothing else she has been a canny steward of her 'brand' within the certain niche she appeals to, and this would ultimately destroy her forevermore with the very folks she relies on for money and support.


Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 09:54 AM (hIWe1)

340 I'll take Herman Cain's lack of "experience" over any fucking career politician's "experience" all day long. In case you haven't noticed, it's that career politician experience that's gotten us exactly where we are.
Posted by: Unclefacts
..........
The point is, he has no experience running for office.  That part about him is an "unknown".  It maybe be a minor unknown variable, but don't scoff at anyone wanting to take it into consideration.

But let me be the first to say this:  Herman Cain cannot be elected as a GOP president at this point in time because he is black.  It is my belief there are enough conservative voters who will never, ever vote for a black man for president.  Sorry, but that's the truth.  We may disagree on the percentage of potential GOP voters who would sit out electing a black man, and whether it would cost us the presidency. But I think the number is significant enough to do just that.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 04, 2011 09:55 AM (f9c2L)

341 Nobody would be "good enough" if they lost the general.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at October 04, 2011 01:23 PM (Jl4kG)

Nobody would be "good enough" if they didn't repeal Obamacare and cut spending either.  Those things are going to be unpopular.  A moderate or anybody who cares about winning the next election over what is right for the country won't do them.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 09:57 AM (FkKjr)

342 ""Good on Christie. We need him here in NJ""


My thoughts exactly. There is alot of evil left in jersey that the big man needs to step on with all his weight. Corzine and Mcgreevy almost made is a 3rd world country.

Posted by: Berserker at October 04, 2011 10:00 AM (FMbng)

343

Anyone who says 'the nominee isn't conservative enough for me- I'm taking my vote and going home' isn't being realistic.

Posted by: Jones at October 04, 2011 01:33 PM (8sCoq)

We aren't talking about the general.  We're talking about selecting a nominee.  These calls to unite behind a shitty candidate before the process is over are not helpful.

He isn't a good nominee, both because he's a lousy campaigner and lousy executive.  We can - and need - to do better in selecting a candidate. 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 10:02 AM (FkKjr)

344

Has Jeff B. come out for Palin yet?

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2011 01:15 PM

Woo-HOOOOOO-ha! This is going to be fun.

Posted by: arhooley at October 04, 2011 10:02 AM (ymPoE)

345

I'm still waiting for the tasteful Playboy pictorial of Christine O'Donnel riding a vibrating toy broomstick with nothing on but her witch hat.

But I guess that is just too much to hope for.

 

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 10:05 AM (Iaxlk)

346 CC, She's a born again Christian, don't count on the witch hat.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at October 04, 2011 10:08 AM (ZDUD4)

347

Honestly, I donÂ’t know what JeffBÂ’s problem is.

 

Some guest author at C4P writes about the possibility of a third party run and is totally ripped in the comments section. Even the most ardent Palin supporters think thatÂ’s a recipe for disaster and quote Palin herself saying that whatever she does she will work inside the republican party.

 

Jeff, youÂ’re as bad as a democrat with all that bullshit.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2011 10:09 AM (qeYI9)

348 Taking bets on how long it will be before another article runs here about rumors of Christie running anyway despite him sayi8ng over and over he's damn well not going to in no uncertain terms.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 04, 2011 10:11 AM (r4wIV)

349 >>He isn't a good nominee, both because he's a lousy campaigner and lousy executive. We can - and need - to do better in selecting a candidate. Can you define lousy campaigner and lousy executive?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 10:20 AM (TMB3S)

350

Cain is a nice guy and I like his ideas, but his mouth tends to get a head of his brain.  I expect some serious Newtonian-like gaffes in the next few months that will disqualify him.

I am concerned with his stance on the Perry-rock non-issue. He should have said that it was a non-issue instead of saying that he was "disappointed" that the word had remained there for so long.

Other than paying someone to haul off athe rock entirely I don't know what else Perry could have done.

Posted by: Clueless at October 04, 2011 10:29 AM (LyOUH)

351 "Can you define lousy campaigner and lousy executive?"

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 02:20 PM (TMB3S)

Lousy campaigner (so far, anyway): Perry

Lousy executive: Obama

I know which I prefer...

 

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 04, 2011 10:33 AM (Iaxlk)

352 Can you define lousy campaigner and lousy executive?

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 02:20 PM (TMB3S)

You mean explain why he's a lousy campaigner?  He's won 33% of the elections he's run for so far.  He lost Iowa to a guy he outspent ten to one.  He lost New Hampshire - his backyard - against a guy who was politically dead six months beforehand.

He proudly informed the media that his favorite novel was Battlefield Earth and he described an example of his executive decision making as the time he washed off his rear view window after the dog strapped to the roof had diarrhea all over it.  He accused his opponent in Iowa of using a floating cross to spread anti-Mormon hatred.  Recently he commiserated with millions of Americans when he, a multi-millionaire, said he was also unemployed.

If Mitt were a true wunderkind of campaigning, why do so many Republicans outright despise him?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 10:33 AM (FkKjr)

353 #363He could have found another hunting lease. It's unfair that he would have to but if you want to be a narional politician you have to be aware enough that this would be terrible optics.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 04, 2011 10:35 AM (8c9g6)

354 >>I know which I prefer... I think he was referring to Romney. I don't get the claim that he is either a lousy campaigner or a lousy executive. He's been in 3 races. He lost to Ted Kennedy in the 1994 Senate race. It was Romney's first political campaign and he gave Kennedy the closest race he ever had. Kennedy. In MA. He won the 2003 governors race. Again, in MA. He lost the nomination to McCain in 2008. That's it. 3 races. 2 in one of the most liberal states in the country. He's now winning the current nomination process. Added up, I don't see how that makes him a lousy candidate. As to a lousy executive, even a casual look at his actual record, not the stuff the msm puts out but the factual record, shows that he is an outstanding executive. He cut spending dramatically in MA. He helped reverse the trend of jobs leaving the state. He closed a $3 billion dollar hole in the budget and left the state with a surplus in 4 years. Now you can disagree with some of his positions but to say he is a lousy campaigner and a lousy executive is just not factually accurate.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 10:40 AM (TMB3S)

355 >>If Mitt were a true wunderkind of campaigning, why do so many Republicans outright despise him? Because many of them buy the msm spin and don't bother to look at the actual record. I live in MA. I've lived here most of my adult life which is getting to be a long frigging time. I lived here before during and after Romney was governor. I know the facts. Is he the smoothest campaigner? No. Does he make occasional gaffes? Of course. Show me a politician who doesn't. But the outright distortions of his record are silly and don't help anyone who is serious about looking at all the candidates.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 10:43 AM (TMB3S)

356

" He's now winning the current nomination process."

By how many votes and or states? He is polling higher than the other candidates, but hasn't won anything yet.

Based on Romney's awesome record, he should have been a shoe in for re election. How did that work out for him?

 

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 10:44 AM (kaOJx)

357 2 in one of the most liberal states in the country.

Yeah, and he wasn't going to get re-elected in that liberal state either.

As to a lousy executive, even a casual look at his actual record, not the stuff the msm puts out but the factual record, shows that he is an outstanding executive. He cut spending dramatically in MA. He helped reverse the trend of jobs leaving the state. He closed a $3 billion dollar hole in the budget and left the state with a surplus in 4 years.

And none of that is still around because his successor undid it all.  The only thing that is left from Mitt's days is Romneycare.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 10:47 AM (FkKjr)

358 Romney did do one thing straw that makes him 10 times better than Palin. He never quit during his term.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at October 04, 2011 10:48 AM (kaOJx)

359 Because many of them buy the msm spin and don't bother to look at the actual record. I live in MA. I've lived here most of my adult life which is getting to be a long frigging time. I lived here before during and after Romney was governor. I know the facts.

I live in MA too.  I have since I was born.  I remember Mitt Romney claiming he was an ardent defender of a woman's right to choose and that he would clean up Beacon Hill if elected.  I don't like voting for pro-choicers.  Especially ardent ones.  But I did.

You can imagine my shock when three years later he was pro-life and visiting Iowa, and when people were describing him as some kind of god.  He sure didn't seem like a god.  He kinda seemed like Weld.  Except not as popular.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 10:51 AM (FkKjr)

360 You Christie-is-a-RINO-guy folks are kinda funny.  The country did not elect Obama because he was a Conservative, or even conservative, but because he claimed to be able to fix the pressing problems of the day, which do not include gays, guns, abortion, illegal immigration, or anything else that Conservatives are hot for.  The folks who have woken up to Obama's flim-flammery are not looking for The Next Great Conservative, they are looking for someone who actually can apply moderately-conservative ideas to the Leviathan that's been unleashed.  Christie would probably crush -- in name only -- any Next Great Conservative if they ran against each other w/o Obama.  It's not what you want, it's what crossover voters in the battleground states want.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 04, 2011 11:01 AM (dZ756)

361 Bevel if you lived in MA then you know Romney was endorsed by MA Citizens for Life because he supported parental consent laws, opposed tax payer funded abortion and was against the Freedom of Choice Act. Romney advised he would not let his personal views of abortion effect the law of the land at the time which was Roe v Wade. He never signed any legislation that promoted the pro choice view and in fact did just the opposite.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 04, 2011 11:04 AM (8c9g6)

362 >>You can imagine my shock when three years later he was pro-life and visiting Iowa, and when people were describing him as some kind of god. He sure didn't seem like a god. He kinda seemed like Weld. Except not as popular. See that's the part I mean about not being factual. If you remember that campaign and that famous debate that has been on youtube ever since supposedly showing what a flip flopper Romney is then you know what really went down. What Romney said (and what is edited out of many of the videos I have seen) is that he has always been pro-life but since the law of the land both nationally and particularly in MA which you know as a resident is heavily pro-choice, he would support those laws. To say otherwise in MA was political suicide and you know it. He then came out in 2004 after meeting with an embryonic stem cell researcher and said he changed his position in that he would actively push his pro-life position in public life. Is that a real flip flop? Not to me. If he had said he would institute pro-life legislation in MA while running he wouldn't have gotten elected and if by some miracle he got appointed to the office he never would have gotten it passed and you know that as well. Are politicians expedient sometimes when running for office? Of course. They do it every day. But this ranks pretty low on the heresy scale for me. As to why his popularity went down in ultra-liberal MA at the end of his term, I can't believe I have to even write this. He went against the liberal majority everyday. He fought them on spending, gay marriage, cuts to pet projects and yes, even with his public pro-life stance. They hated him for it. If you need proof, go read excitable Andi Sullivan. He's hated Romney ever since the gay marriage battles here in MA.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 11:05 AM (TMB3S)

363 Oh and that was in 1994.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 04, 2011 11:06 AM (8c9g6)

364 polynikes, JackStraw --

Why are you wasting your time citing facts and the actual record?  People like Bevel Leminsk have their narrative and they're sticking to it.  The more you demonstrate that it's constructed out of lies and distortions, the more fervently they'll hold to it.  It's not about what's actually true, it's about what they WANT to be true.

Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 11:08 AM (hIWe1)

365 And to add to JStraw's point that he fought the liberals tooth and nail is that he had almost 1000 vetoes. Unfortunately a big majority were overridden by a legislature that was 90% Democrat. One that did not get overridden was In-State Tuition for Illegals.

Posted by: polynikes - Texan for Romney at October 04, 2011 11:10 AM (8c9g6)

366 Bevel- As a MA resident, you must know Barbara Anderson. She helped establish Citizens for Limited Taxation. She was around long before Grover Norquist. She had a "Tea Party" attitude long before it became cool. And she did it in MA. She is an ardent supporter of Romney and has written very favorable op-eds for him both in '08 and now. She has forgotten more about taxes and spending in MA than most people will ever know. Now why would she support a guy like Romney unless he was an outstanding fiscal conservative? Easy answer. She wouldn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 11:14 AM (TMB3S)

367 Now, if Herman Cain will just bow out while he still has even a shred of decency left.

"I must announce today I am withdrawing from my bid for the GOP nomination. During the course of the campaign, I've realized that I'm too hung up on race to be a good president for this nation. We have a black guy who can't see past skin color or resist race baiting at every opportunity in the White House now, and we don't need to follow him with another one...like me. Thank you all for your support, now let's go get a pizza!"


Posted by: davidinvirginia at October 04, 2011 11:14 AM (ED4oz)

368 Why are you wasting your time citing facts and the actual record? Because I think a lot of people are interested in the facts, not just what they get spoon fed from the msm. Some may not be persuadable but some may be. Romney isn't perfect, he has flaws. All of the candidates do. But I really want to both win the next election and have someone with a demonstrated record of fiscal excellence and a demonstrate ability to fight against liberals. Romney has that record.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 11:18 AM (TMB3S)

369

>As a MA resident, you must know Barbara Anderson. She helped establish >Citizens for Limited Taxation. She was around long before Grover Norquist. >She had a "Tea Party" attitude long before it became cool. And she did it in >MA.

>Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 03:14 PM (TMB3S)

Yes, I know Barbara Anderson.  She also commended Romney on 'taking charge' on the Healthcare issue. 

You certainly must know Howie Carr and his opinions on Romney.  I also can appeal to authority.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 11:21 AM (FkKjr)

370

>Why are you wasting your time citing facts and the actual record? People >like Bevel Leminsk have their narrative and they're sticking to it. The more >you demonstrate that it's constructed out of lies and distortions, the more >fervently they'll hold to it. It's not about what's actually true, it's about what >they WANT to be true.

>Posted by: Jeff B. at October 04, 2011 03:08 PM (hIWe1)

Jeff, shut up.  You're on record saying that you would go 3rd party if Palin were the nominee.  You're so committed to winning elections you'd rather throw one so long as the 'purists' you truly hate would lose.

You are adding nothing to this conversation.  As always.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 11:23 AM (FkKjr)

371 >>Yes, I know Barbara Anderson. She also commended Romney on 'taking charge' on the Healthcare issue. Yes, she did. And she also noted that premiums she paid for her employees at CLT actually went down after the law was passed. You also know that as polynikes and others have noted, many of the things Romney wanted in the law were overridden by the liberal legislature or added by Deval Patrick, Obama clone. Do you really think that's going to be a campaign hinderance as opposed to Perry's action on healthcare in a general? Here's what I see happening with Perry in the general: Obama: Well Gov. Perry I noticed you don't like my healthcare plan. Let's see what you have done in TX. Nothing. And you have the highest number of uninsured people in the country and the highest number of uninsured children in the country. My law may not be perfect but doing nothing as you have done is worse. The end. >>You certainly must know Howie Carr and his opinions on Romney. I also can appeal to authority. Howie Carr is an entertainer. He doesn't do policy. I like Howie but he is an authority on newspaper columns and talk radio. Anderson does tax policy everyday. I think I'll go with the policy expert over the entertainer.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 11:27 AM (TMB3S)

372 Anyway, I've got a meeting. I'm sure we will continue this conversation over the next few months.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2011 11:29 AM (TMB3S)

373

polynikes - Almost every Republican is endorsed by Mass Citizens for Life.  Scott Brown was.  That does not make them pro-choice.

Jackstraw - Mitt's position on abortion was the exact same as John Kerry's.  He was not a closet pro-lifer.  He was pro-choice until it was politically necessary to switch.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 11:31 AM (FkKjr)

374

>Yes, she did. And she also noted that premiums she paid for her employees at CLT actually went down after the law was passed. You also know that as polynikes and others have noted, many of the things Romney wanted in the law were overridden by the liberal legislature or added by Deval Patrick, Obama clone.

Yes, this fig leaf gets held up all the time.  Everything good in Romneycare was Mitt's doing, everything bad was the legislature's.

Mitt signed off on the finished deal and ran around the country saying how awesome it was.  Even now, he's still doing that.

We also know now that RomneyCare cost 18,000 jobs and increased costs.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 04, 2011 11:36 AM (FkKjr)

375

So . . . second look at Paul Ryan?

---------

Seriously hope this is a joke. If not, let's just start working on the time machine and bring see if we can bring George Washington to the 21st century and let him run. It's about as useful as continuing to pine and beg for candidates who ahve said upwards of 74 times that they are, in fact, not going to run. It's a waste of time to keep asking.

Posted by: Rich at October 04, 2011 11:39 AM (ldOlo)

376  Sarah Palin will be announcing in a couple of days. Most likely at the Glen Beck rally on Friday. Her attorneys are getting the paperwork together as we speak for the primaries. Thousands of reporters will then descend on Seoul So. Korea to see her speech on October 10th, 2011. Massive power move onto the political landscape by Sarah Palin.

Posted by: blogforce one at October 04, 2011 11:51 AM (a/yG6)

377 Now that he's ended his Rocky Balboa-like training regimen, you just know Christie's blowing it out tonight. He's going to be chowing down like a condemned inmate with 8 hours to live.

Posted by: Spiker at October 04, 2011 12:05 PM (0f+SI)

378 Sarah Palin will be announcing in a couple of days.

Yeah, that she's not running. I think Palin's stunts lately have basically ruined the momentum and media draw she used to have guaranteed and now she's not any positive use to the conservative movement as a spokesman any longer.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at October 04, 2011 12:15 PM (r4wIV)

379 $1 imaginary tip jar for Mallamut

Well, I hope the kids enjoy giving the media a wedgie, proving they can keep a secret.

6/28 Bristol Palin stated that her mother knows definitely whether she's to run '12 campaign, that the family knows and in agreement, but at that time some things are better left in the family. To date, Palin's said there's still room for more, and that she'll announce when the time's right for her.

Politico revels with news that another GOP's legal counsel made calls regarding early state filing deadline.

...considering the decision was made after '08 to Little Red Hen it herself, this egg's so hard boiled, expect a stink bomb when it finally cracks open. 

Posted by: didn't take long at October 04, 2011 12:17 PM (lpWVn)

380 Thousands of reporters will then descend on Seoul So. Korea to see her speech on October 10th, 2011. Massive power move onto the political landscape by Sarah Palin.

She's preempting Obama's November thunder in Hawaii, AsianPacific trade.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 04, 2011 12:20 PM (lpWVn)

381 On interventionist wars, Palin is Santorum without the gruff. I doubt that there's really much difference on foreign policy between the candidates excepting Paul. If her debut announcement is in S.Korea, I'm betting it's fighting communism, beating the Reagan war drums to denounce the evil empire. That would be odd and eery, her taking on China like that, as if she has to prove she's tough. She's been doing the international circuit of speeches this past year. I heard her India address and the question/answers. Sounding like a politician, she didn't reveal anything brilliant, just placating non-committal positions regarding US/Pakistan war on terror influencing US/India economic alliance. LOL, her specialty, the non-committal candidate.

Still, Palin never infringed upon Americans' Constitutional Rights. So on that, I'd vote her rather than Perry. And she's not mandated or legislated bankrupting socialized health care, so I'd vote her rather than Romney. Cain earned and proved his education and business successes on his own merit, and he's actually formulated a tax platform that people understand. I don't think there's a different energy policy or labor policy between the candidates. Correct me if I'm wrong. But they'd all "Drill, baby, Drill!" for Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. So between her and Cain, I'd most likely vote Cain.

Posted by: didn't take long at October 04, 2011 12:43 PM (lpWVn)

382 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2011 01:50 PM (fyOgS)

383 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Beat that meme until the gluons squeeze out from between the quarks.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent at October 04, 2011 02:24 PM (PMGbu)

384 Good. That's one less RINO in the running.

Posted by: Glenn Frey at October 04, 2011 04:34 PM (2DuGp)

385 I am not clear if I totally understand the full thought pattern behind this.

Posted by: Robert B. Parker’s Killing the Blues AudioBook at October 04, 2011 05:16 PM (wFpoL)

386 Bill Kristol or Bill Crystal?

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