1
Pawlenty should be careful because even with all of Mitt's faults, he's still smarter than Tim.

2 Free abortions for some, American flags for all!

3
in fact, I'll bet my Leftnut^tm that Romney does very well tonight and zings back anyone who zings him.

4 Did Mitt really refuse to answer whether or not he thinks homosexuality is a sin?

5

Shhh, ya hear that? If you listen closely you can hear the sound of Wolf Blitzer waxing his carrot.

 

6
What's most important for us is that all the candidates focus on Obama's failed policies.

If these shitheads start attacking one another, we'll never beat Obama.

7

Expect sixty bazillion questions about evolution, dinosaurs, abortion, and, of course, gay marriage.

Posted by Ace at 04:46 PM New Comments Thingy

How about a question as to whether it is ok for the Secretary Treasury to be a tax cheat and the head of the DOJ facing contempt charges?

8 Dude they didn't invite gary johnson :-( thats BS.

9 #6 I disagree at this stage. We're choosing our best shot at beating Obama so through debate we may be able to discern each candidate's weaknesses and strengths, at least in theory. For example, I want the others to attack Mitt on Romneycare and global warming so as to hopefully weed him out early.

10 I'm hoping for a question indirectly attacking Pawlenty's "Google Test" by way of "guess what happens if you google the term 'Santorum'?"

That would be supreme gayballz.

11

Mitt Romney

12 Pawlenty should be careful because even with all of Mitt's faults, he's still smarter than Tim.

Near as I can tell, the major difference between them is that Pawlenty got re-elected.

13
I may be able to pop off irrelevant asides, which is the extent of my contributions in most cases anyhow.

Welcome to the AoS Club for Men.

14 Sarah Palin totally fucking DOMINATED that deba- Huh? Fuck you, RINO!

15

Do these debates serve any purpose except giving fodder for the media to say "See, look how extreme those extreme extremists are!111!!"?

 

16 "Mr. Cain, why did you put that pube on Anita Hill's coke?"

17 This is one of the ways that the lefties are allowed to set the issues of the election; these TV debates...I'd discourage it by not watching it if I was you guys.

18 Prediction --
There will be a question about little willy weiner which somehow implicates republicans for scandalous behavior and/or being desirous of regulating sexual expression

19
Going negative is not helpful. I want to hear their plan to defeat Obama, not listen to catfighting.

20 Are either Ron Paul or Michelle Bachmann participating in this debate?

21 I suggest all you moron master debaters begin drinking heavily.

There will be comedy gold tonight at 8. Comedy. Fuckin'. Gold.

*Resigns self to voting for one of these chumps if necessary*

22 This is one of the ways that the lefties are allowed to set the issues of the election; these TV debates...I'd discourage it by not watching it if I was you guys.

RATINGS FOR GOP DEBATE IN TOILET - PROOF AMERICA REJECTS IMPERIALIST AGENDA!

23 I'm in class tonight.  Otherwise, I'd be there with a Bachmann T-shirt on.

24 That's funny. Why let the lefterationists turn this into a gayballz gaffefest? I guess we're in store for 100 questions on isn't it embarrassing to not hate Palin like we hate Palin, etc?

25 I want every Dem politician to have to answer uncomfortable questions about KSM's trial, GITMO, the GZM, Partial Birth Abortion, and every other thing they dont wanna talk about. since apparently divisive irrelevant social issues are the only thing GOP candidates are ever asked about.

26 "Sen./Mr./Gov., knowing what we now know about the unmitigated financial rape of the US known as TARP, what would you have done differently had you been President in Sept. 2008?"

27 Posted by: Soothsayer at June 13, 2011 04:54 PM (G/zuv)

Nope, Romneycare is on the table tonight to be mocked and torn to shreds.

28 @4 Did Mitt really refuse to answer whether or not he thinks homosexuality is a sin? Any candidate should refuse to answer that question, or any question of the sort "Is X a sin", regardless of X. The answer should be "I'm not running for pastor, I'm running for President. The presidency has important and well defined duties, ones that the current President is failing at performing."

29 "Mr. Romney, is your Mormon belief that Jesus and Satan brothers - a Mormon belief so extreme that evangelicals like Mike Huckabee refuse to stand on this stage with a Mormon you - something a Mormon like you expect the American public (which is overwhelmingly not Mormon) to embrace, following a Mormon as their leader?"

30 Of course, noone cares about gayballz except for leftists who won't vote for us none how. So, fuckem.

31 Who's bright idea was it to have a debate on opening night of hobo season?

32 I'd discourage it by not watching it if I was you guys.

Posted by: CanaDave at June 13, 2011 04:54 PM (ZpzZz)

No worries, it never crossed my mind.

If the moderator for any given GOP Presidential Debate were to be Uncle Ted, I'd be all over that!

33 "Mr. Pawlenty, you are known as boring and non-charismatic.  How do you think your boring and non-charismatic nature will equip you to be the leader of this country?"

34 If I can get my tech to work, I may be able to pop off irrelevant asides, which is the extent of my contributions in most cases anyhow. Posted by Ace at 04:46 PM
  Beware 'popping off' with tech.  That shit can burn you big time. Trust me!

35 1
Pawlenty should be careful because even with all of Mitt's faults, he's still smarter than Tim.

Posted by: Soothsayer at June 13, 2011 04:48 PM (G/zuv)

So you're saying T-paw is a goddamned fucking retard?

36 Vote - will (they urned me into a) Newt
a) double down on attacking the Ryan plan
b) Give Ryan a verbal nut/tongue massage
c) avoid the issue
d) develop a twitch

37 I think all candidates should commit to answer the gay question, "I am in agreement with the President's position on this issue".  And the evolution question, "I am more concerned that we have students are graduating and can't read their diploma's and we are ranked 23 out of 25 industrial nations on education.  That is where my priorities lie".  And the abortion question, "like the majority of America, I am pro-life".

Wouldn't it be awesome if they all answered EXACTLY the same?

38 #30 I disagree.

39 in fact, I'll bet my Leftnut^tm that Romney does very well tonight and zings back anyone who zings him.

Not only that, I'll be he gets you into a late model buick barely driven, with undercoating, at $500 under list price!

40 No one has done a Barney Frank sock?

Sad.

41

Please answer from left to right- yes or no only...

Have you stopped beating your wives?

42 @39 FTW "like it's cute and all to be gayballzing us but were here for realses to debate actual issues."

43

Again, yes or no answer here-

Are you still molesting minority children?

44

First to denounce Sarah Palin by name will be the "winner" of the debate and be the "one to beat" going into the primaries.

45 Wouldn't it be awesome if they all answered EXACTLY the same?

Posted by: tinkerbella at June 13, 2011 05:01 PM (veikD)

Maybe they'll read Ace's comments for their cues?

46 I say let them fight it out down and dirty. Whoever survives will be tuned up to handle da Zero, if he ever agrees to a debate, which I doubt.

47 If Alan Keyes isn't there, I ain't watching.

48 42 No one has done a Barney Frank sock?

Sad.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 13, 2011 05:02 PM (k0TKJ)

 

Stay away! You have no idea what he does to us when his boyfriend isn't around.

49

Q; What advice would you give President Obama?

A: I would certainly take into account the pitch of the fairway, the direction of the wind and the distance to the green before recommending a club.

(That's the guy I'd vote for.)

50 This is a question for all the candidates; Why are all of you such racists that you wish to deprive the First Black President (PBUH) his full 8 years in office? Oh, and to Mr. Cain, why are you such and Uncle Tom?

51 I'm officially announcing my campaign to make a buck.

52 I sure hope they do more of those "please raise your hand if..." questions, those are super enlightening.

53 IMHO Pawlenty just jumped down a few rungs on the ladder.

Attacking anyone at this point is destructive to Republican chances. Unity will sell better with our party and the voters we are targeting. Plus, he look's desperate. Really desperate this early.

I don't mind questioning Romney on the facts. In fact, I don't care if he politely asks what hairspray the guy uses.

I don't like Romney- at all. Period no question. But if Pawlenty starts throwing cutesy little Minnesota type insults and supposedly witty pet names that equate another Republican candidate with Obama, he can kiss my ass too.

54 Yeah, but everything Pawlenty said is true. Telling the truth isn't being nasty.

55 If I am not victorious ... let no one come back alive.

56 I may be able to pop off irrelevant asides........
It's a gift.  Own i t ace.

57

One more for all candidates- yes or no answer only

Have you stopped torturing kittens?

 

58 I have my money on one man...

59

"Why NH popularity? I don't know, because it's CNN."

Because CNN wants Romney to be the Democrat that Republicans are tricked into nominating.

Just like they were for McCain.

Remember John McCain. The Maverick. Media darling.

Yeah, let's not fall for it again.

60 This is a question for all the candidates; Why are all of you such racists that you wish to deprive the First Black President (PBUH) his full 8 years in office?

As a Constitutional scholar, I can tell you its a decade.

Why are you wingnuts so ignorant?

61 I would like to see Mitt shredded by the other candidates. We don't have to settle for a moderate.

62 I wish there was a way to call CNN on the gaybalz questions, but leave it to some retard on the right to stick up for such *important* issues.

63 Remember John McCain. The Maverick. Media darling.

He's the only one that can beat Obama (PPUH)!

64 Posted by: Marcus at June 13, 2011 05:05 PM (CHrmZ)

Connecting Romney to RomneyCare and then connecting him to Obama via ObamaCare is factually correct. If reality disturbs you perhaps you can head over to Kos or DU for your afternoon's entertainment.

65 Bonus points to anyone who asks Newt about campaigning in the Greek Isles or if he needs help finding a new campaign staff.

66 Keep it on the DL, but I love me some gayballz.

67 I want to hear some ideas about how to solve our problems. They don't need detailed plans at this stage, but they need to outline how they would do things differently. Avoidance of overuse of cheap slogans as answers would also be appreciated.

68 Guys you seem to forget. Romney sucks balls at debating. I extremely believe he will not lose. Just let Pawlenty, Santorum, Bachmann, Cain attack him. Palin and Perry are sitting pretty should they decide to run

69 If reality disturbs you perhaps you can head over to Kos or DU for your afternoon's entertainment.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 13, 2011 05:09 PM (LH6ir)

Reality is racist. And homophobic. And says I have to get a job or its kicking me out of the basement. Why can't reality be more like Mom?

70

Keep it on the DL, but I love me some gayballz.

Leave me out of it.

71 >>>>>How about a question as to whether it is ok for the Secretary Treasury to be a tax cheat and the head of the DOJ facing contempt charges? Ummm, we don't think so.

72 And the evolution question

They should answe: "evolution is necessary to adapt to a new environment or else the species will die out.  Sort of like your employers."

73 Keep it on the DL, but I love me some gayballz.

Posted by: Barack H. Obama at June 13, 2011 05:10 PM (tqwMN)

How'd you like to come over for some sliders?

74 I haven't been anticipating a display of blistering intellectual prowess like this since the last epochal GOP debate, which featured fucking political superstar heavyweight Grand Masters like Herman Cain, Ron Paul and Rick Santorum.

75 is it okay to answer a religious/moral question by saying "that's above my pay grade"?

76 So Romney is currently the favorite gladiator in Rome? Perform well, Romnius, and we will allow you armor. Fail not to entertain the Emperor...

77 48 I say let them fight it out down and dirty. Whoever survives will be tuned up to handle da Zero, if he ever agrees to a debate, which I doubt.

Posted by: maddogg at June 13, 2011 05:03 PM (OlN4e)

It is certainly possible that Obama will not agree to any debates.

For sure, he will put ridiculous demands on the conditions so as to ensure that either there is none or the only debate questions are the ones that Axelrod writes for the moderator.

78 44 @39 FTW
"like it's cute and all to be gayballzing us but were here for realses to debate actual issues."

Posted by: joeindc44 at June 13, 2011 05:02 PM (QxSug)

They only ask these questions so they can use them for ammunition at a later date.  The MSM knows the economy stinks and they are going to do everything to make the 2012 election about anything BUT the economy.  The Republicans need to be on the offensive and not let the MSM try to turn this into a bunch of right wing nutcases that want to peek inside your uterus.  Because that is their battle plan.  They are going to do everything in their power to keep Obama in office. 

Republicans need to stop pretending the MSM is neutral or fair.  They need to treat them exactly who they are - their political opponent.  I realize it is a risky move, but I don't see what we have to lose.  They will beat any and every Republican candidate in the ground.  Look how being nice to the media and kissing their ass worked for McCain.  You don't think the same thing will happen to the 2012 candidate?

79 Posted by: Dave at June 13, 2011 05:06 PM (Xm1aB)

There is a certain way to carry that type of doubt planting and explication. That will be very important in this election IMHO.

I don't doubt for a second what he is saying is true. But that type of attack makes Pawlenty look vacuous and ultimately hurts him, Romney and the party.

I want someone who can lead with their ideas and tell me how they are better than the next guy and why. I've had enough of empty rhetoric, silly, self-serving attacks and empty promises- haven't you?

80

let me get this out of the way, after literally years, I am no longer funemployed. I FINALLY got hired. Scott has gotten unemployment down here down from 12% to 10% at a time it's going up nationally. He's got my vote should he run for re-election (I suggest to him he doesn't). Thanks to Scott (aho I didn;t even vote for in the primary or general) and his policies, I'm back to work.

okay now on to this. i'm gonna watch the debate but the whole time i'll be thinking about Perry jumping in. he better or i'm gonna have a real tough decision to make b/w Pawlenty or Bachmann if the field stays as is.

81 Will Impertinentdoucheballz be the moderator?

82 Oh yeah.   I want to see Ron Paul and Knute exchanging rabbit and kidney punches.  Whiny gold-bug blather vs. bully-boy MENSA beatdown FTW!

83 Whatever the question, the answer better be Where are the JOBS?

Beat Barry like a pinata.

84 Is running for the Republican nomination more inspired by your hatred of black people, your disgust with poor people, or your desire to deny Mexicans their American rights?

85

Tim Pawlenty lowered the boom on Romney by calling President Barack Obama’s controversial healthcare reforms “Obamneycare.”

Oh snap.

I'd like to see the DNC mediator try to steer the debate away from two different takes on exactly how shitty ojesuscare is.

He's gonna have his hands full.  "Gentlemen .....please gentlemen....the question was dinosaurs!!!! "(stomps foot).

86 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 13, 2011 05:09 PM (LH6ir)

I think you misread my comment and intent.

Read the follow up.

Then go stick your dildo up your ass.

87 45

Again, yes or no answer here-

Are you still molesting minority children?

Posted by: CNN debate douche at June 13, 2011 05:03 PM (UciSl)

I think I'm going to start this as a twitter trend under the hashtag "GOPdebate?"

88 Why is bachmann participating? She has not announced or has an EC.

89
Beat Barry like a pinata.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 13, 2011 05:14 PM (GTbGH)

Been there, done that.

90 Gaybalz?  Book it.  Second, Blitzed will condescendingly ask the AGW question which wil be a chance for any courageous members of the filed to bury Mitt's Rino ass.....

91

Again, yes or no answer here-

Are you still molesting minority children?

Posted by: CNN debate douche at June 13, 2011 05:03 PM (UciSl)

Currently? No.

92 Well Marcus, I just disagree that Pawlenty's "Obamneycare" remark hurts him or the party. No doubt it stings Mitt as was intended. I'm not on the Pawlenty bandwagon (yet), but I think the guy came out firing on all substantive cylinders by going to Iowa and dinging ethanol subsidies and to Florida dinging out of control entitlements like SS and Medicare.

93

Posted by: mallfly at June 13, 2011 05:12 PM (bJm7W)

heh, I think a good candidate would do what Palin did (no, i'm not a Palin person, just using her as an example) back in the 08 VP debate and turn every question into what you want to talk about.

CNN Liberal, errr, I mean, Debate Moderator: What are your views on Evolution?

GOP Candidate: My views on evolution will not change the current state of the economy, and therefore I'd be more concerned with the fact we're borrowing and spending trillions then my belief or non-belief in what role the creator was involved with human history.

94 So, we're not allowed to refer to His Unprecedentedness in any way, nor criticize his policies, nor use real data, for that would be racist? Got it.

95

Why is nobody asking the central question: Why are allegedly Republican candidates agreeing to do ANYTHING on CNN?

CNN is the enemy.

Anyone who cooperates with CNN is providing aid and comfort to the enemy. This alone should amount to immediate disqualification and eviction from our political party.

Does the RNC possess any cameras? A stage? Microphones? Why are some Republicans hell-bent to produce revenue for the Democrat Party's News Network?

What's next ... appearing on MSNBC? Making Chris Matthews a moderator?

Was Fox not available?

96 you, know, I've been following politics for years, and Romney so impresses me that I can't remember his actual first name. When the Moochelle Sperm Media starts to trash Rick Perry, we'll know he's the one to run, especially if the usual talking asshats start comparing him unfavorably to Palin.

97 We dinosaurs had the right of gay marriage. 

98

Posted by: 20%ers at June 13, 2011 05:14 PM (vbh31)

+1

99

Clearly being the front runner has it's privileges.  While a bunch of also rans waste their time up in New Hampshire tonight, Buddy Roemer will be taking a well deserved break from the daily grind of building a rock solid, seemingly unbeatable, Tea Party fueled, grassroots campaign infrastructure.

 

100 And a topic from recent headlines: How often do all of you tweet pics of your dick to young girls? If you say "never" then please tell us why you prefer young boys?

101 Another good answer to any so-con questions is Unlead Regular was $1.87 a gallon when Barry was inaugurated.

Whip him like a weasel caught in a threshing machine.

102 So Bachmann is in the debate? Ah, she's dead to me now. Should of fired Rollins immediately. And if Ron Paul is allowed to participate, what a joke!

103

Posted by: mallfly at June 13, 2011 05:18 PM (bJm7W)

if Perry runs and Palin doesn't and endorses him, it'll be Perry VS Romney and if Romney ends up getting the nod he might look to Perry to be his VP pick to unite the party.

104 This debate is just going to be fodder to the MFM and the liberal blogs tomorrow. It seems a little early for the sideshow.

105

Posted by: Dave at June 13, 2011 05:19 PM (Xm1aB)

Garry Johnson hasn't. I'd argue Johnson is more sane then Paul.

106

Whose fucking party is this? Once we nominate a candidate, fine, that candidate is pretty much required to appear on CNN ... but until then the nominiation of our candidate to run in our party is our fucking business.

It is none of CNN's business. Or MSNBC's business. Or the Democrat Party's business.

This is the kind of fucking lunacy that I will never understand about the Republican Party. Why are they PRODUCING REVENUE for CNN? It is not a legitimate news network. It is the media wing of the Democrat Party and real Republicans aren't required to appear on CNN as part of the process of picking OUR presidential nominee.

I'll say it again, any candidate who agrees to appear on CNN as part of OUR nominating process has lost my support.

107 WTH are we letting CNN control these debates?  Obama and all the democrats refused to have a Democrat debate on Fox News. (I don't blame them)  Why are Republicans still have debates in leftists media?

What is it you want more of?

*Talking Snowman?
*more of these ???'s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDITCzOyiRU

It has been painfully clear for years that we needed to stop having Republican debates moderated by leftists and that Iowa and New Hampshire must be replaced.  (Should have been obvious without being tried once)  Fool me once shame on you,  fool us every 4 years....

108 Perry will beat Mitt's ass like he owes him money.  He'll get Palin's endorsement, and the Tea Party will align behind him against another squish who has AGW and Romney care wrapped around his neck like a fucking anchor.....

109

Expect sixty bazillion questions about evolution, dinosaurs, abortion, and, of course, gay marriage. All of the wedge issues they have very similar answers on, tiny differences endlessly explored, to communicate to CNN's public "these people disagree with you on big things; don't vote for them

Expect them to also get them to make statements so they can claim they want to kill grandma with Ryan's Plan.  Also to get them to say anything about candidates not there.

You know what you can expect them not to ask about?  People from New York that post links to dic pics on the internet.  Also Anthony Weiner.

110

I'll say it again, any candidate who agrees to appear on CNN as part of OUR nominating process has lost my support.

*facepalm*

111 Well hell, we let democrats vote in our primaries too, so the CNN thing ain't no biggy.

112 One snag: I won't really be participating. I have a previous commitment

Make sure to make her some pancakes afterwards, ace!

113 Good debate answer: I am running for President because I thought that 7% unemployment was bad enough.

114 This isn't a debate. It's a show trial.

115 Gentlemen, starting with Governor Romney, what do you see here?

Posted by: Rorschach Blot at June 13, 2011 05:17 PM (vbh31)

Mitt, if I may interrupt. That looks like the growth and inspiration that I have planned for this economy that is on the verge of a rebound and not just one that is sky-bound but one that is riding on top of a Saturn V rocket into the tranquil and prosperous orbit in which our economy so deservedly deserves to be in...

116

Posted by: Alamo at June 13, 2011 05:22 PM (m/tN9)

just to be clear I am praying Perry gets in and he'll be my guy barring anyone else jumping in that gets my support.

117 107 Another good answer to any so-con questions is Unlead Regular was $1.87 a gallon when Barry was inaugurated.

Whip him like a weasel caught in a threshing machine.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 13, 2011 05:19 PM (GTbGH)

Your reference to "187" is a racist dog whistle!

118 Of course, they do not invite candidates who like Johnson or Karger who differ from the CNN script for what a Republican should believe about the freedom to marry...

119 Perry / Rubio 12.  You heard it here first(?)

120 I'm not a big fan of this debate, but I disagree that it shouldn't be done by CNN. CNN is hostile, and a candidate should be able to handle hostile media. Also, they are more likely to favor conservative candidates--wrongly thinking that they'll hurt the GOP--whereas someone like Fox News, which is essentially establishment Republican, will try to promote fellow establishment Republicans.

121 I am running for President because the President thinks our economic status was a joke. he did such today.

122 Make sure to make her some pancakes afterwards, ace!

Posted by: Y-not, sobbing moronette at June 13, 2011 05:23 PM (TFxd0)

 

Screw you!

123 It has been painfully clear for years that we needed to stop having Republican debates moderated by leftists and that Iowa and New Hampshire must be replaced.

Yeah?  Well I guaran-damn-tee you that Romney would be the nominee without small-state early primaries.

Well, maybe not Romney, maybe Trump.

Because in the big states, it's just a money game.  That's it.  You can't retail campaign in Florida or Ohio or Texas or California.

In big states, whoever has the most money wins...and Romney has the most right now.

124

The only national media besides Fox is everybody else. 

If these guys have balls tell the mediator to suck it.  The first one to do so would have my vote.  Remember how Teh Fred did just that last time with that raise your hand shit?

Oh Fred....woulda coulda shoulda.

125

Posted by: Alamo at June 13, 2011 05:25 PM (m/tN9)

I doubt we'd get that lucky but the election is ovah if that's the ticket

126 "Congressman Paul, as a longtime party member, please explain the Republican plan to retake the Panama Canal from the cabal of Jew bankers that control the world economy. You have 15 minutes."

127 Good debate answer: I am running for President because I thought that 7% unemployment was bad enoughlike to golf. Posted by: Damiano at June 13, 2011 05:23 PM (3nrx7)

128 Well, let's see how CNN handles it. I think everyone is getting concerned about the economy, so maybe they'll focus. But who cares about CNN being enemy camp, once a frontrunner is found, the MSM's like SNL and Jon Stewart will begin battlefield prep no matter what happens. I hope (but without my expectation) that the GOP changed it's nominating process to avoid the monkey circus that got us Mackerel in 2008. You know, open voting in states that are kinda meh.

129 108 So Bachmann is in the debate?

Ah, she's dead to me now. Should of fired Rollins immediately.

And if Ron Paul is allowed to participate, what a joke!

Posted by: Dave at June 13, 2011 05:19 PM (Xm1aB)

Invites were based on Poll numbers.  Any potential candidate getting over a certain percentage.  They list the 7 attending here, and near the bottom they mention other invited that aren't attending.  Palin and Rudy are two of those.

130 Meh  +1.06 (+0.01%)

131 lefterating

Nice. Google gives 2 results: the main page and the comment page.

132 #136 buzzion, Thanks for the info.

133 CNN Moderator: "Thank you, thank you. We'll let you continue with your overview of the economy while the folks at home watch this special message from the White House..."

134 Everyone has to drink for every loaded Muslim question that they ask Cain.

135 Posted by: Marcus at June 13, 2011 05:15 PM (CHrmZ)

No, I didn't misread your comment.

"Attacking anyone at this point is destructive to Republican chances."

Pretty clear. And wrong. Thus my retort.

And if you are that sensitive to a mild jab, you aren't going to enjoy your time here.

Now go home and get your fucking shine box.

136 Well we're pretty sure Bachmann is out, along with Paul, Gingrich, and Santorum. Cain--dunno. That leaves Mitt and Tim. At this point, Tim is the man.

137

"They never do this with Democrats. "

That's because Democrats aren't fucking morons. Democrats would never agree to appear on Fox News as part of the process of choosing THEIR candidates for political office.

And I'm beginning to suspect that the only reason some Republican candidates are willing to go on CNN and generate ad revenue for THE OTHER SIDE is that maybe they're not real Republicans.

It's the only way this debate makes any sense.

I'm certainly willing to hear arguments to the contrary, especially by Ace and crew, but so far, I'm scratching my head wondering why we're allowing CNN to control the choosing of OUR candidates for public office.

138

If these guys have balls tell the mediator to suck it.  The first one to do so would have my vote.  Remember how Teh Fred did just that last time with that raise your hand shit?

Oh Fred....woulda coulda shoulda.

He has no "fire in the belly!"

139 We apologize to the candidates for cutting their time short on economic questions, but we have breaking news! Michelle Obama has just arrived in CA for her speech on supporting the troops and we have live pictures of her toned arms.

140 HAROLD STASSEN!

141

And I'm beginning to suspect that the only reason some Republican candidates are willing to go on CNN and generate ad revenue for THE OTHER SIDE is that maybe they're not real Republicans.

*facepalm*

142 "SHECKYNOMICS"

143 Michelle Obama......... her toned arms.

I'd have arms like that too if I wrenched three lobsters in half every night for dinner.

144 from gateway pundit: "Leading Lib Blog Viciously Attacks Gov. Rick Perry For Being Christian"

145 Bachmann has hired Huck's '08 press secretary.

146 Did someone just make a Fred Karger reference? And it wasn't sarc?

147 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathon_Sharkey This guy.

148 I kinda hope they do go after Mitt tonight just to see how he responds. Last season there were a couple debates where he was the whipping boy and he just stood there and took it, with a look on his face like he had just sniffed a wet fart. In one debate he fought back though and it was a fun one. I just want to see which Mitt comes to this show (my money's on wet fart Mitt),

149

It's the only way this debate makes any sense.

I'm certainly willing to hear arguments to the contrary, especially by Ace and crew, but so far, I'm scratching my head wondering why we're allowing CNN to control the choosing of OUR candidates for public office.

What, they should just do Fox News debates over and over again?

Did you watch the first one in May?  Fox fucked the format so badly that CNN couldn't do much worse.

I don't know much about the moderator John King (nobody outside his 14 viewers does either), but from what little I could dig up he doesn't appear to be an overtly partisan liberal.

How about we save the whining about how unfair CNN was to our candidates until after they they actually debate?

150 “Obamneycare”

Haahaha, I burst out laughing when I saw this, and the boss looked at me with a puzzled expression.

151 "Tomorrow, We Die; But Tonight, We Debate!"How fitting to describe the people who want the only viable candidates (Romney and Pawlenty) to die in blue-on-blue crossfire so the "real" candidates like Palin can emerge. Never-mind she is unelectable. Impossibility. Over 50% of her party refuses to vote for her.

Retard conservative motto last seen since the last ideological primary bukaki session: Delaware Senate Election 2010.

That one worked out well, eh Senator Christine O'Donnell?!

152

"What, they should just do Fox News debates over and over again?"

Republicans are perfectly capable of producing debates at a studio at Republican National Headquarters and offering that live feed to any news organization that wants to carry it. After all, we're choosing OUR political candidate. From OUR party. That WE PAY FOR.

You don't see Democrats holding their nominating process on FoxNews, do you? No, you don't see that because that would be fucking stupidly retarded to allow your political opponents to choose your candidate.

Once we have chosen OUR candidate, then in all liklihood it will be a reequirement that they appear on CNN during at least one debate (although I am not granting that argument).

But until we have chosen OUR candidate, in OUR process, it is blindingly stupid to set about producing revenues for CNN. If CNN's journalists were uniquely believed to be unbiased, then maybe I could see farming out this responsibility ... but CNNs journalists are not seen as unbiased. They are seen as Democrat Party hacks.

The Republican National Committee has the money to produce debates and provide that live feed to all news networks which want to carry it. Why are they purposely going out of their way to create revenue for CNN?

It's policially stupid. And I don't want to belong to a fucking stupid party.

153 The question is moot, Rick Perry's hair will sweep all before it.

154 Is posting with red text supposed to demonstrate that you are punching up!

155

Well, let the bloodbatth begin, because this will be the media's starting pioint in...

"Look at how extreme these candidates are!   Well, except for Romney, 'cause he's so damn close to what we have now, he's the most likely to get beat...um, he could beat Obama.  Yeah, that's what we meant!"

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See if you can follow this trail:

CNN's John King is tonight's debate moderator.

John King is married to CNN reporter Dana Bash. But that's not her real name. Her real name is Dana Schwartz.

So why does she use the name Dana Bash?

Well, before she married John King, she was married to Jeremy Bash.

Ok. So who is Jeremy Bash?

Why, he's chief of staff to Democrat Leon Panetta.

So, the husband of the ex-wife of Democrat Leon Panetta's Chief of Staff is tonight's moderator of a Republican debate.

Gee, how is it that someone that close to the Democrat Party's current Secretary of Defense (and former CIA director) is moderating OUR fucking debates?

Can we not find a REPUBLICAN to moderate OUR debates?

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Romney is smarter than TPaw ?  really ???  Based on what ?  School records ?  He may be a smarter asset manager than TPaw but that may be meaningless in the context of debating  ...

The country is not a business ...  being good in one niche business (asset management) doesn't make you a good potential President or even a good manager of people ...

They are obviously both smart ...  smart doesn't win debates ...

My question is this ...  If Romney is so smart how come he has not been able to seperate himself from RomneyCare over the last 2 years ?  I would have thought a smart man would have slowly but surely pointed out why his vision of RomneyCare has been preverted by the legivative and regulatory processes and is now no longer the RomneyCare he tried to implement ...

 

 

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Republicans are perfectly capable of producing debates at a studio at Republican National Headquarters and offering that live feed to any news organization that wants to carry it. After all, we're choosing OUR political candidate. From OUR party. That WE PAY FOR.

You don't see Democrats holding their nominating process on FoxNews, do you? No, you don't see that because that would be fucking stupidly retarded to allow your political opponents to choose your candidate.

If the debate were being conducted by MSNBC you might have a point.  CNN may lean left, it's not as partisan as MSNBC or Fox News.

The debates are always sponsored by the various networks.  Sometimes the moderators are unfair, sometimes they aren't.  Assuming that because CNN is hosting that they're out to get us is paranoid.  How about we wait to see how John King does as moderator before crying about the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy trying to get in our base and kill our dudes?

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The debates are always sponsored by the various networks. 

Why would we allow that to continue? What law says we have to accept that status quo? Do we not own cameras? Microphones? I can buy a 1080p high definition camera on Amazon.com for $80 fucking dollars and provide live feed to any news network that wants to carry that debate by hosting it on LiveStream.

Do we not have our own husbands of Republican Chief's of Staff's that can moderate our fucking debates?

This idea that we somehow NEED the likes of CNN to hold a Republican debate to choose OUR candidate is a bunch of horseshit.

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"How about we wait to see how John King does as moderator before crying about the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy  ..."

Oh, you mean AFTER the damage is done to our candidate. THEN we can bitch and whine about what a horrible job John King did and how it's so obvious that he was biased against our guy?

Really. That's your big plan? Wait until the damage is done and THEN bitch?

Folks, we need to seriously upgrade the strategic thinking around here if we intend to eviscerate these Socialists from power. Allowing Democrats to control our candidate selection process is retardedly stupid.

161 If you are going to be President of the USA, you are going to get a thrashing from the whole world. I am happy that they are on CNN, it will test their spine a little. However, if you let the moderator *dominate* you, then, see yah! If CNN can push you around, then you will be no match for the hurt that is coming. They should take every question and bash the left and Obama over the head with it. Nobody is controlling the words coming out of their mouths on live tv. So, they have the opportunity to respond to any question however they want. Oh, and this talk that Mittens' positions should be "hands off" and nobody should challenge him, F*** THAT.

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So, they have the opportunity to respond to any question however they want.

Allowing your political opponents set the terms of the debate by being the ones who get to ask the questions is fucking stupid.

And I do not want to belong to a political party that is fucking stupid.

I reiterate: We have to up the strategic thinking in this room. It's amazingly shortsighted.

163 They having this debate at center ice of game six of the Stanley cup final? Cause otherwise no one up here is going to be watching

164 My biggest concern is that Romney doesn't read Ace of Spades Headquarters.  This is the kind of place where he needs to do his war games.  I hope he's here with a sockpuppet.

165 169 OK. He's how flawed your thinking is. There are people in this country that watch CNN. They don't particularly lean left or right, they are just comfortable with that channel. I hate it. I never watch it. But I have a close friend who grew up on CNN (like me, it was the only game in town for a long time) and she watches it nightly. She is a Republican, and she thinks that Fox has crazy commentators. Ok, so be it. I don't waste any energy getting her to change f'ing channels on her TV. However, in her world view, it is a CNN guy asking questions of her possible candidate. She isn't on a freaking crusade with who is asking the questions. Do I know that the questions will probably be loaded? Of course. But to her, a CCN guy that she is familiar with will ask questions, and she will listen to the response. She isn't dumb. If they ask a dumb question, she will say "that was a dumb question". But to act like we can only have candidates appear in friendly territory OR ELSE! is f****** stupid. In case you don't realize, the only friendly audience on TV that the Republicans are going to get is Fox. So, your solution is an internet only streaming debate to be viewed by a tiny segment of the population? Run with that.

166 Fixed

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Oh, you mean AFTER the damage is done to our candidate. THEN we can bitch and whine about what a horrible job John King did and how it's so obvious that he was biased against our guy?

Really. That's your big plan? Wait until the damage is done and THEN bitch?

Folks, we need to seriously upgrade the strategic thinking around here if we intend to eviscerate these Socialists from power. Allowing Democrats to control our candidate selection process is retardedly stupid.

And the alternative is to stream it on the web for nobody to see?

We don't know that they're going to "damage" our candidates with 'gotcha' questions.  Do you really think that someone like Chris Wallace wouldn't ask tough questions?  Do you have so little confidence in our candidates that they can't handle a loaded question or two?

Should we just have Hannity go up and repeatedly ask "Governor Romney, could you tell us how awesome America is?".

CNN isn't going to "control" our candidate selection process- they're hosting a debate.  They might do a good job, they might not.  The answers, not the questions are what people are interested in.

Just exactly how would it look to the electorate at large if we said that CNN is a Socialist network unworthy of sponsoring our debate?  Hint:  CNN wouldn't be the ones coming across as 'extreme'.

168 Dinosaurs!

They made oil or something.

There's like, this incredibly massive lake of liquid methane on Titan.  I'm guessing there must have been about a bajillionty layers of dinosours and ewoks on that previously-forested moon in order to get squished into methane.

No fossils, no fuel!

169 Just exactly how would it look to the electorate at large if we said that CNN is a Socialist network unworthy of sponsoring our debate?  Hint:  CNN wouldn't be the ones coming across as 'extreme'.

If these guys can't handle the people from CNN then they certainly can't handle guys like Putin or Hu or Ahmedinijad or Chavez etc. You know, actual adversaries and enemies and stuff.

170 Just exactly how would it look to the electorate at large if we said that CNN is a Socialist network unworthy of sponsoring our debate? Hint: CNN wouldn't be the ones coming across as 'extreme'. Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2011 06:38 PM (SY2Kh) Dear Hollowpoint, as you seem to hold high opinion of Democrats - please explain: why they never hold their primary debates on Fox News? I mean, such smart people who are smartishly smart can't figure out your geniously genious notion that if they won't do their internal debates at a politically hostile TV, they'll lose much of the electorate? Please explain, as I see you are concerned about GOP and it's electorate at least as I am concerned about DNC's. I'm waiting for your brilliant answer which will shortly come. Impatiently waiting.

171 I wonder if Newt is going to look like Admiral Stockdale and ask, "Why am I here?"

Of course, Vice-Admiral Stockdale was awarded a Medal Of Honor, and served with distinction, so I naturally must denounce myself.

172 If these guys can't handle the people from CNN then they certainly can't handle guys like Putin or Hu or Ahmedinijad or Chavez etc. You know, actual adversaries and enemies and stuff. Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 13, 2011 06:59 PM (GEPoZ) You mean letting Chavez and Imadinnerjacket host a debate? Why, that's a wonderful idea! If CNN can host a GOP debate, let Hugo moderate the presidential debates. Because we are men. We can take it. Real men, true leaders of spirit, let their enemies dictate their terms - because that's what real men do.

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CNN isn't going to "control" our candidate selection process- they're hosting a debate.  They might do a good job, they might not.  The answers, not the questions are what people are interested in.

We're not talking about a general election debate. If this were a debate between a Republican presidential candidate and Barack Obama, then I would agree with you.

But that's not what this is.

This is INTERNAL REPUBLICAN POLITICS.

Why would we allow John King to set the terms of our internal Republican candidate-choosing process by being the person to ask the questions ... in a PUBLIC setting?

That's stupid and 1950s thinking.

Republicans should control the selection of our candidate completely UNTIL that candidate has been selected by the party through its nomination process. Then if CNN wants to host a debate we can ask ourselves whether it's politically advantageous to allow partisan Democrats to moderate debates.

But until we've chosen our candidate, it is epically stupid to allow CNN to host OUR debates.

CNN just wants to have as many opportunities as possible to make our candidate say something that would cost them the election. That's why they're holding debates 17 months out. They want ammunition. And it is stupid for Republicans to give it to them.

We need better leaders in our party. Smarter folks. More strategic thinkers.

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Just exactly how would it look to the electorate at large if we said that CNN is a Socialist network unworthy of sponsoring our debate?  Hint:  CNN wouldn't be the ones coming across as 'extreme'.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at June 13, 2011 06:38 PM (SY2Kh)

I'm not gonna jump into that debate, but regarding that rhetorical flourish, I have a question.

The old media is dying.  When do we just ignore them the way you ignore longbows when hunting for a nice sidearm to wear at a barbeque?

I say the time is now. Forget 'em. Let them die. It's the honorable, decent thing to do. If voters are too stupid to find the debates, wherever they are hosted, and by whom, then they probably aren't going to be able to find their polling place, either.  Besides, I seriously doubt that any but the most engaged voters even watch the damned things.

175 Nice.  Only one link to something that gives the debate details. I hate goin' to search engines, because sometimes I never come back.

176

Here's how flawed your thinking is. There are people in this country that watch CNN.

OK. Stop right there.

1) Nobody we care about is watching CNN.

ONLY Democrat partisans watch CNN and we don't give ONE FUCK about them. We don't care if they ever hear a single word any Republican has to say.

2) Nobody fucking watches CNN. Take a look at their ratings.

There is NO POSITIVE outcome possible. No votes will be swayed. No Democrats who might swing to vote for a Republican are watching CNN. Certainly not 17 months out. The ONLY thing that could happen would be something NEGATIVE occurring during the debate.

Please, God, tell me we have some strategic thinkers in this room.

177 Republicans will appear at a Debate hosted by a Network hostile to them.  Democrats are a bunch of scared little pussies that refuse to go near Fox

178 That Republicans will debate on CNN proves that leftwing views are reasonable and normal.  That Democrats refuse to debate on Fox proves that rightwing views are extreme.

179 Republicans will appear at a Debate hosted by a Network hostile to them. Democrats are a bunch of scared little pussies that refuse to go near Fox Posted by: One Positive outcome possible at June 13, 2011 07:34 PM (oVQFe) You see, it only proves Democrats are stupid and Republicans are smart. Smart people allow their bitter enemies who hate their guts and want them to miserably fail to host, moderate and control their internal election process. Lifelong Concerned Conservative Christian, Hollowpoint, told me so. Hollowpoint. What an apt name for a Lifelong Concerned Conservative Christian! This guy is HARDCORE!

180 Gingrinch will probably hit Romney his campaign or lack of one needs cred, Santorum as well. T-Paw will try the more roundabout way of suggesting it is a bad bad thing to propose. Cain will have some good one liners against it. Romney will be prepared for it and will know each opponents weakness and will respond accordingly. Let's see whether any can rebuke his response and make him wish he rebuked Romneycare.

181 I'm just pissed Rick Sanchez fucked up his chance to moderate this glorious event.   Poor Rick! Prediction, it's all Bachmann all the time on HuffPo tomorrow.  No matter how she comes off. Second prediction: gloves off between T-Paw and Michele from the start, given their mutually chilly quotes this week.  Bachmann reps my district and T-Paw was my gov.  As hard right as he portrays himself now, this man was cool with telling private businesses what their patrons could and couldn't do (smoke).  He was pretty keen on Cap-n-Trade initially, too.   I wish he'd governed our state using the populist rhetoric he's trotting out on the Sunday talkies now.  Given the choice between T-Paw or Obama, I'd still take the guy who didn't sit in Jeremiah Wright's "church" for 20 years.  Among other things.  Bring on the liveblog!

182 One minute ? Why not 12 seconds ? Hey, why not just try Presidential Primary Word Association. You just get a one word answer. GO

183 Why did CNN ask more questions about gay marriage,  DADT, and gay rights than about he Economy?


They'll ask the same questions to Obama.

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