1 Does  this thread come with t-shirts?

2 Head of the teachers union in NY gets 194K by selling back unused vacation and sick leave.

This is what the unions are for.

3 Moncler jackets turned my pubes yellow.

4 NOAA still pushing the AGW lie yesterday saying 2010 was one of the warmest years on record.

http://tinyurl.com/4lmkjll

How do I know its a lie? Not just because it comes from NOAA which is ran by political assholes but because this is the same data tainted by the 600° temps in MI and WI. Also because it shows the SE on their map as warmer than normal. This Summer was the mildest I have seen since I have been here in 33 years.

5 Rise and shine M&Ms. Just another couple of days until a weekend of football nirvana!

6 crap: i really need to go to bed....

good review of Jewish opinions why Sarah WASN'T wrong to call the attacks on her blood libel

http://tinyurl.com/6eluy5j

7 In don't know what map you are looking at, Vic, but the one I'm looking at shows normal to cooler-than-normal temps in the southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/4q54mpa

8 So your reelection campaign is flagging? Poll numbers need a boost? Well your in luck pal because a tragedy just happened that you can exploit. Send out flaks to blame the deaths on your opponents. Do not dp so yourself you don't need the blame, but make sure you never tell any of them to stop until the damagew is done. Next hold a "memorial" at the site of your base. I remember a couple weeks ago someone wrote you need to find a way to turn out college kids, women, and minorities, so a college campus or black church might be good, just make sure you can have a lot of people there for YOU to coopt the event. At said memorial make all the optics scream Obama. yes we can can be changed but keep most of it, maybe together we can or united we can would be good. In your speech tell everyone they need to calm down and not assign blame. Make sure you don't laugh during that part. Then sit back and allow your media allies to do the rest.

9 Hey Vic, are you familiar with the blog Watts Up With That? Great weather/skeptic blog by a working weatherman, Anthony Watts: http://wattsupwiththat.com/

10 and the good news of the day is that the SVR found out why Saturday's shooting went down.......(tin foil suggested)

http://tinyurl.com/279rpj6

and now i'm outta here.

11 I love the way lib's heads are exploding over Palin's use of the "blood libel" term..

"Hey! Blood libel is a Jewish term!  And the Jews are on our side!  Palin can't use that term!"

12 Whew...after the pep rally last night.. I am pumped up and ready for the day!

13 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 13, 2011 07:09 AM (Do52

I am looking at the one that came with their report. It shows above normal for everything right down to the mid coast.

It is Bs.

14 25° on the Gulf Coast this morning, and I get a +3 from the bay effect.

15 Hey Vic, are you familiar with the blog Watts Up With That? Great weather/skeptic blog by a working weatherman, Anthony Watts: http://wattsupwiththat.com/

Yes,but haven't been there for a while

16 25° on the Gulf Coast this morning, and I get a +3 from the bay effect.

15.1 here now

17 Vic - look further down the page in your link for the one I linked to.. if you are talking about the anomaly graphic near the top of the web page, I have no idea what they are trying to say with that map.. but the one lower down clearly shows cooler temp in the southeast.

18 Sidebar:  NPR: Whew! Thank Science the Shooter Wasn't Hispanic.

Who would have guessed that Ergie worked for NPR?

19

25° on the Gulf Coast this morning, and I get a +3 from the bay effect.

DENIER!!!!

or is it

DENIALIST!!!!

20 Here's a thought about why discourse in America is so heated:

The same classless douchbag Obama supporters that think it's great to cheer at a memorial service are the ones setting the standards for rhetoric on their side.

21 What was more bizarre last night?  the Pep Rally Memorial, complete with tee shirts and official logo?  Or the tongue bath given to Obama after the fact by Fox News Channel's carefully selected panel of ass kissing DC insiders?

Its a toss up for me.  Both were truly revolting.  Fox is unwatchable anymore.

22

1 Does  this thread come with t-shirts?

Posted by: nickless at January 13, 2011 06:53 AM (MMC8r)

I think it needs a set of instructions.

23 Or the tongue bath given to Obama after the fact by Fox News Channel's carefully selected panel of ass kissing DC insiders?

Did they have Wendell "Great Pyramid" Goler on?

24 #21  The Fox praise was ridiculous.  My BS meter when off when Alyson said she was sobbing as the president spoke.

Even Congressman Giffords' HUSBAND wasn't crying!  Good grief!

That is why they brought Alyson in to fill the center seat today.  Gretchen Carlson probably couldn't be forced to say such drivel.

And why the anchors are surprised at the behavior of the crowd is a mystery to me/  When you hand out t-shirts at a memorial service heald in a basketball stadium,  and you keep the concession stands open,  then the audience is going to take its cue from the surroundings.

I still want to know about who paid for those t-shirts and whose idea it was.

25 My libtard brother just told me that Sarah Palin should shut the fuck up because this is exactly what Bush did to Saddam Hussein. And my bro fervently hopes that the outcomes are similar. God, it is a misery being related to people that you both loathe and love.

26

"This space is for comments on headlines and other stuff in the Top Headlines sidebar."

This is outrageous. I don't need your rules, fascist. 

27 Memorial Service.

It isn't what you think it is.

28 The debate we need to be having in this country is about how to deal with mentally unbalanced people who seek to destroy the obsessive objects of their paranoid delusions.

But enough about Paul Krugman.

29 Good morning Illinois!:

(CNNMoney) -- The major tax hikes passed by Illinois lawmakers early Wednesday will hit businesses hard.

Faced with a daunting $13 billion budget deficit, state legislators opted to raise personal and corporate income taxes. Companies will now have to pay a 7% corporate tax rate for the next four years, up from the previous 4.8%. And Illinois businesses are already subject to a 2.5% surcharge.

"We'll definitely not be hiring, that's for sure," said Mike Nobis, president of JK Creative Printers & Mailing, which generates about $4 million in revenue a year. "We just don't have the margins anymore to do anything major."

Nobis said the tax increase means he won't be able to invest in his 103-year-old printing business in Quincy, Ill. He's not sure yet how much more he'll have to pay, but it will have an impact.

After seeing his sales and profits decline during the Great Recession, Nobis shortened his workers' hours to 32 per week. He was hoping to bring them back to 40 hours a week this year, but probably can't afford to now.

And forget about adding to his payroll or buying new equipment, he said.

While Nobis said he can't afford to move his operations to a lower-cost state, other companies may opt to relocate.

"It means the best growth business in the state of Illinois will be moving companies," said John Tillman, chief executive officer of the Illinois Policy Institute, a non-partisan, free-market think tank. Businesses "will have less working capital."

The tax increase has vaulted Illinois into the top ranks of states with the highest corporate rates, said Joe Henchman, director of state projects for The Tax Foundation. It will now have the third highest rate, up from the 21st highest previously.

Not helping matters are the state's high sales taxes and property levies, Henchman said. Its formerly low personal income tax rate offset the other levies, but now Illinois no longer has that advantage.

State legislators were faced with two "terrible choices," said Steve Brown, a spokesman for Illinois House Speaker Michael Madigan, a Democrat. They opted to raise taxes rather than cut spending. Also, as part of the package, lawmakers placed a 2% cap on spending growth and authorized $3.7 billion in borrowing to make a pension payment.

The tax increases shouldn't scare away businesses, he said. In fact, companies have been moving to the state.

"On balance, people still believe Illinois is a pretty good place to be," Brown said.

30 Has this thread been blessed by Chief Pepe Lopez?

31 That is why they brought Alyson in to fill the center seat today.  Gretchen Carlson probably couldn't be forced to say such drivel.

I wouldn't know about that. Gretchen gets pretty liberal herself. In fact, there is probably only one of the news people anymore that isn't eat up with the liberals and that is Megyn Kelly.

32 New rules? Lucky I don't read the thread headings all that closely. Hey how about them Knicks?

33 I wouldn't know about that. Gretchen gets pretty liberal herself. In fact, there is probably only one of the news people anymore that isn't eat up with the liberals and that is Megyn Kelly. Posted by: Vic at January 13, 2011 07:55 AM (M9Ie6) Oh I bet Gretchen is pretty conservative when it all gets added up. Remember she has to be a little careful so she doesn't go the way of E.D. Hill.

34 "Judge Roll was recommended for the federal bench by John McCain 20 years ago, appointed by President George H.W. Bush, and rose to become Arizona's chief federal judge," Obama told the crowd at the University of Arizona. Roll's "colleagues described him as the hardest-working judge within the Ninth Circuit. He was on his way back from attending mass, as he did every day, when he decided to stop by and say, 'Hi,' to his representative."

In the complaint supporting Loughner's arrest, federal prosecutors argue that Roll wasn't simply seeking to pay a social call on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) when he showed up at the community outreach event where the shooting spree took place Saturday. Prosecutors and the FBI insist that Roll "was engaged in official duties" because he wanted to talk to Giffords and her staffers about problems with a surging caseload in federal courts in Arizona, particularly along the Mexican border.

So it was just a casual stop by, not official duties.

35

authorized $3.7 billion in borrowing to make a pension payment

Think about that one for a moment.

 

36

"God, it is a misery being related to people that you both loathe and love."

I feel kinda lucky that my 5 brothers and sisters are all either Republicans or Libertarians. We just try to avoid social issues and accusing each other of being potheads.

37 Oh I bet Gretchen is pretty conservative when it all gets added up.

You would lose that bet. She was making gun control noises a couple of days ago. My take on her is she is a religious liberal, pretty much like Huck.

38 "Hey! Blood libel is a Jewish term!  And the Jews are on our side!  Palin can't use that term!"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 13, 2011 07:14 AM (Do52

The 50-year burning question is, Why?  Why are the Jews on their side?  They aren't an aggrieved constituency, they aren't even a favored minority.

I don't know why, but I'll bet it's part of a world-wide Joooo conspiracy!!!

39 Vic,  my only point was that there are some things she will not say.  If you will remember,  her parents lost their auto dealership when that Chrysler/GM scam went down. 

Many of the things said on the morning show are scripted.  Once in a while I catch them reading their inane comments.   I think the "sobbing" comment was over the top and written by one of the producers.

Malkin on now.  "Right speech in wrong setting."  She also makes the point that his timing was a little late.

40

I don't know why, but I'll bet it's part of a world-wide Joooo conspiracy!!!

Posted by: FUBAR at January 13, 2011 08:03 AM (McG46)

Aye've dun always known its all th' JOOOOOOOOOOOOOs fault!

41 Top Headline suggestion, eh? OK:

Same Shit, Different Day

Lather, rinse, repeat. The classics never die.

42 Together we jive.

43 Apparently Obama lied in his speech eulogy that Giffords opened her eyes for the first time shortly after he visited when she actually first opened her eyes on January 9th.

Here's a quote with my emphasis taken from a second source, The Tucson Sentinel, linked in the comments section:

Giffords is in a drug-induced coma in intensive care. Doctors frequently awaken her to check her responsiveness, and she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday—an encouraging sign, said Rhee said.

Despite Giffords' ability to follow commands, "We know that brain swelling can take a turn, so we remain cautiously optimistic,” said Lemole.

He described simple commands as: "can you open your eyes?" or "can you raise two fingers." Such simple tasks can tell doctors much about her condition, he said.

Giffords cannot speak because she is on a ventilator, and cannot see because of the area of her injury and the surgery requires her eyes be kept closed, the doctors said.

44 You would lose that bet. She was making gun control noises a couple of days ago. My take on her is she is a religious liberal, pretty much like Huck. Posted by: Vic at January 13, 2011 08:00 AM (M9Ie6) Yeah I really don't think so. From many many other things she has said over the years I think she is conservative. But who really knows. All I really know is that her husband is Derek Jeter's agent

45 On cue...(seen on Patterico)

GOP in a bind over healthcare repeal vote

House Republican leaders are eager to fulfill their promise to vote to repeal the legislation, but taking up the divisive issue could hurt the party at a time of calls for rejecting partisan rhetoric.

Talking about ridding rid of a crap-filled sandwich shoved down our throats on Christmas Eve = partisan rhetoric.

FULaT

46 Posted by: andycanuck at January 13, 2011 08:13 AM (2rOwc) But Obama always just makes shit up, we know that.

47 *getting rid

48 I wonder how soon until those t-shirts show up on ebay?

49 Arpaio re: Dupnik,

Class act response on headline from the Maricopa County Sheriff to Pima County's Leftist stooge.

"I'm a former top federal law enforcement official and understand you have to be very careful when youÂ’re conducting an investigation to make sure thereÂ’s no pretrial publicity that may affect the case and give the perpetrator a chance to use comments made, especially by the chief investigator, which happens to be the sheriff. I think we have to very careful about what we say, especially law enforcement officials or government officials. I think right now I think we ought to shut our mouth and let the justice system take its course.  I have to say that I have been threatened constantly, threatened by elected officials, calling me Nazi, Hitler, every name in the book. Yet I havenÂ’t heard anybody speak out in the Democrat administration saying thatÂ’s not right."

Lest it be overlooked, Obama immediately ordered FBI Chief Mueller to the scene. Dupnik is not simply publicizing his own opinion. His statements have the White House nod of approval.

I doubt that "mecca" was in Dupnik's frequented vocabulary prior to Mueller overseeing the shooting's investigation.

50 Here's my headline of the day. Obama finds his bloody shirt and her name is Gabby Giffords. For the next two years, Obama is going to use to deflect any criticism of his policies or actions.

51 dammit

52

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 13, 2011 08:14 AM (9hSKh)

Does the GOP not realize the calls for rejecting partisian rhetoric are all coming from the Democrats and liberal media?  If not, they aren't fit for duty then.  Jeez.  Who cares what the Democrats think.  They sure as hell didn't care what the Republicans thought the last few years.

53 On Obama's speech last night, our nation's Chief Executive publicly began erasing means to prosecute Loughner for killing U.S. District Court Judge John Roll while the judge was conducting official business visiting Giffords publicly v. being an inadvertent passerby with no business other than leaving church and coincidentally being in the wrong place at the wrong time when he was assassinated.

Nuanced revisionism and Obama's Judicial Branch. Almost seeming to cover an outreach for the Loughner bad seed offshoot formerly cultivated at the Tucson high school affiliate of the Ayers/Obama/Annenberg Small School Workshop format. It looks like another perversion of the judicial system subsequent to Holder's purpose in trying combat terrorists in civil court rather than allowing  military tribunals. (Does the AG really have the power to dictate to the Military? Rather, only the POTUS has that authority.)

54 But Obama always just makes shit up, we know that.

You should really tone down the partisan rhetoric, nevergiveup, .  Obama wanted to be there when she first opened her eyes so that she could see Him.

Meanwhile, half-way across the world:

IDF troops on alert following collapse of Lebanon government

55

Btw, which Palin adviser aided her formal response that included the term "blood libel"? (Not inadvertently, and not inappropriately given common usage today --  no one "owns" the monopoly on blood libel without living staying stuck in centuries past.) The Jewish Fund for Justice and The National Jewish Democratic Council would perpetuate the very evil they feign to oppose. That would be heinous.

56 Meanwhile, half-way across the world: IDF troops on alert following collapse of Lebanon government Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 13, 2011 08:18 AM (9hSKh) And my daughter just landed in Israel about 45 minutes ago

57 Fox has gotten to be just as bad as the rest of the Lame Stream Media...happened quite a while back. I've not watched more than a few minutes of it since Shep Smith spent days and days standing around New Orleans during the Katrina stuff, lying thru his teeth about everything he saw.

I also think that the most disgusting thing about all this - aside, perhaps, from the electronic "rape" that Sarah Palin has had to endure since the shootings - is the "tongue bath" that another poster mentioned above being given to the Vacationer-in-Chief after his speech last night. It's not just FNC doing it. I almost - literally - got sick to my stomach trying to read some of the slurping tongue stuff posted by the regulars over at The Corner at NRO about how wonderful this was. Most of the stuff could just have easily come out of Chris "Leg Thrill" Mathews as from people who claim to be conservative. Of course the god-king sounded reasonable compared to the hate his surrogates have spewed for him since last Saturday. Hell, Charles Manson would probably sound more reasonable on some days than the lefty gang-rape crowd has this past few days.

It's something I knew already, but it's a good reminder that Beltway Rot afflicts non-politician brains, too.

58 So it was just a casual stop by, not official duties.

Posted by: Islamic Rage Boy

Or...the Feds lied.  Or...Obama's speech writer screwed up.  Loughner's attorney will definitely use this comment if the Feds  try to keep the Federal charge.

59 Or...the Feds lied. Or...Obama's speech writer screwed up. Loughner's attorney will definitely use this comment if the Feds try to keep the Federal charge. Posted by: Deanna at January 13, 2011 08:24 AM (Cwx0W) From what I understand the Feds can still bring murder charges anyway since one of the Congresswomen's Aids was killed and thus, that is Federal. But it would have been nice to have 2 Federal Murder Charges . But hey what do I know, I'm only a Dentist.

60 Did they have Wendell "Great Pyramid" Goler on? Nope. Worse. Nicole"the Knife" Wallace and Sourkraut.

61 This was the wreckage of the Delaware Republican Party. An ex-congressman trying to help an ex-legislator win a special election in a county where more than half the voters are Democrats. It was on display Thursday morning at a breakfast hosted by Mike Castle, the ex-congressman, for Tom Kovach, the ex-legislator running for president of the New Castle County Council.

For the 75 or so people who [attended], the breakfast was held in Wilmington at the University & Whist Club. It is an old pile of a private club, and heaven only knows whether it is the state Republicans or private clubs with the better chance of regaining popularity, although possibly it could be spats.

The last election was such a bloodbath; the Democrats now hold eight of the nine statewide offices, everything but auditor, and the majority in both chambers of the General Assembly.

Doverpost



Way to stay relevant, Delaware Republicans.  Hold an event at a private Whist club. What, were the snooker parlors all booked?

62

House Republican leaders are eager to fulfill their promise to vote to repeal the legislation, but taking up the divisive issue could hurt the party at a time of calls for rejecting partisan rhetoric.

And now, round 2 of "making shit up".  As all the "calls for rejecting partisan rhetoric" come from baseless accusations against phantoms from the fevered minds of lefties....how about taking the vote five mintues from now?

63 New unemployment claims released: 445,000.

That's 40,000 MORE THAN EXPECTED. I am so surprised.

64 House Republican leaders are eager to fulfill their promise to vote to repeal the legislation, but taking up the divisive issue could hurt the party at a time of calls for rejecting partisan rhetoric.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 13, 2011 08:14 AM (9hSKh)

Says the LA Times.

 The LA Times is only slightly less in love with Obama than Obama.

65 57 May she stay safe.

66 More signs that the Euro-socialist pipe dream is falling apart quickly:

United Kingdom scrapping default retirement age of 65 http://bbc.in/fwOE81

67 59 Fox has gotten to be just as bad as the rest of the Lame Stream FNC needs competition. It has none and the lack of competition shows. It is morphing into CNN. Who's going to cover the Tea Party for them? Gerry Rivers? John Roberts? Even Special Report is dreadful. It is completely Washington-centric, with Panel "debates" between 3 insiders who alternate jerseys.

68 As for the NPR chick being happy the shooter was a "gringo". The NPR that allowed this to be published is the same NPR that fired Juan Williams. Think about it. At least, a lot of the commenters, including some latinos, called her and NPR out on the disgusting column.

69 May she stay safe. Posted by: SurferDoc at January 13, 2011 08:33 AM (o3bYL thanks. I am waiting till her Israeli Cell Phone gets turned on to hear from her.

70 Wow.I stay away from the blog for one day and ace goes wild.Great day of blogging ace!!

71 46 Oh.I told y'all this shooting would stall the R agenda.

72 Initial jobless claims back up to 445,000.

The recovery is deepening.

73 Morning.. BTW.. The video of all the Twitter death threats to SarahPalinUSA has been removed.. Violated terms of service or something.. I disagree.. These people put it out there for the world to see and when they saw it, they shat their collective pants.

74 67 57 May she stay safe.

Ditto. 

75 Also not to be overlooked-- Gifford's BIL is another Spaceman calling the ISS home. He blamed the right wing the other day from Space.

Fuck all these liberals and,  fuck NASA while you're at it.

76 House Republican leaders are eager to fulfill their promise to vote to repeal the legislation, but taking up the divisive issue could hurt the party at a time of calls for rejecting partisan rhetoric. As predicted by many including me. We were had in November. The country desperately needs but does not have a conservative political party.

77

How big of a hack leftwing bitch is Andrea Mitchell?

 

big.

78 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 13, 2011 07:58 AM (B+qrE)

+1

This is exactly the problem. Most people simply don't understand what a pension plan is, and how it is supposed to work.

I tried to explain it by comparing it to taking out a second mortgage to pay the first mortgage. Not great, but it got 'em thinking.

79 57 May she stay safe. Ditto. Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at January 13, 2011 08:41 AM (9hSKh) Thanks. Sort of an outbreak of an all out War, I always felt pretty safe in Israel and sure she is now also.

80 I am so disgusted by what has been going on this week that I am going to back off for a day or two from politics to get my head back into the real world.

 I do have to say this: The MFM have failed to destroy Sarah Palin.  In fact, they have raised her to equivalence with the President, since her speech has them talking about the two of them in the same segments of the news if not the same paragraphs.  I doubt they have changed any minds about her and they may have given her supporters new resolve. 

Sarah Palin has probably reached the level of celebrity where No Publicity is Bad Publicity As Long As They Are Talking About You.  The longer they attribute this vast power to persuade to her, the more significant they make her seem.  Instead of chasing her away, the MFM may just have made her one of the two the most significant people in American life today. 

Heckuva job!

81 He blamed the right wing the other day from Space. Fuck all these liberals and, fuck NASA while you're at it. Posted by: Barbarian at January 13, 2011 08:41 AM (EL+OC) He did? Sorry to hear that. So I guess her Husband, Navy Comrade or not, is also a Left Winger? That depresses me.

82

Incompetent and corrupt Democrat Sheriff Dipshit - could be recalled.

 

Come on Arizona - do it.

 

83 #79 lemonkitten,  I have a real-life Andrea Mitchell story.

Back in the pre-internet days,  I was at home with my kids so I kept the TV on for things like press conferences.  Reagan had one and his tax returns had been released.  He didn't list much for charitable deductions,  and Mitchell asked him about it in her usual sneering manner.

Reagan explained that a lot of his money was donated to people as individuals and wasn't listed because it wasn't tax deductible.  (These types of donations came out after his death.)  He also spoke about how you don't trumpet alms-giving in the public square.

TV stayed on after press conference,  so I ended up with NBC Nightly News.  Mitchell appears and talks about her question,  and said "Reagan offered no explanation for his low charitable giving."

I still remember that, almost 30 years later.   I scared my kids by screaming at the TV.

84 Fuck all these liberals and,  fuck NASA while you're at it."

---NASA...theyre making 'discoveries' every friggin week arent they? new planets, alien life on earth!, star-birthing from green goo in space...

its all so ridiculous. and liberals NEVER question NASA....ever.

all these new dinosurs found from a billion years ago and not ONE early man/transitional species found and those idiots buy into their crap.

85 Posted by: nevergiveup at January 13, 2011 08:20 AM (0GFWk)

Tell her to eat at Avazi (sp). Fantastic grilled meats, fresh pita, amazing hummus and tahina. It has a few locations, but I have eaten at the one near the soccer stadium in Tel Aviv.

86 Why must President Juggy McFabulous insert himself into this Arizona tragedy by campaigning for himself and admonishing the opposition?

87 Astronauts = government employees.  There's no reason they wouldn't be as statist as bureaucrats in Washington who love biggummint for funding.

88 Like others have said, Ailes dictum for Fox to "tone it down" shows that they have bought into the obvious lie that "heated rhetoric ( by conservatives) must be curtailed. All of this based on the lie that strong discourse prompted skull boy to kill 6 people. F**k Fox News for their cowardice- CNN 2.0

89 #75 It once was lost but now is saved.

YouTube took down the video mash-up of Palin Twitter death threats but a fully-working version has been saved and posted at Big Journalism. You might want to download it (if you can; I haven't tried yet) instead of just bookmarking it to save it from the memory hole.

90 Tell her to eat at Avazi (sp). Fantastic grilled meats, fresh pita, amazing hummus and tahina. It has a few locations, but I have eaten at the one near the soccer stadium in Tel Aviv. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 13, 2011 08:50 AM (LH6ir) Well she is not a big meat eater. How MY daughter got that way I have not idea? But she loves hummus, tahina, and babaganoush. She has been there before, so she'll do just fine.

91

Sarah Palin lives in Andrew Sullivans head. Good.  I love that she tortures the poor babyman.

Here's what Andrew said yesterday.

"I do not hate Sarah Palin. I wish I had never heard of her. "

-Andrew Sullivan 

 

 

Not that different from this:

I do not hate Sarah Palin. I just wish she was dead.

 

Yeah – reads about the same.

 

 

92 Sarah Palin lives in Andrew Sullivans head.

Fair is fair.  He's been living in her vagina for years.

93 This douchebag attorney up here in Canada named George Atis has a son on the 12 year-old local PeeWee "A" team, which is the absolute lowest level of competitive play for kids' hockey. There was ONE girl on the team, which did not sit well wiuth him, so he called a parents' meeting (he's not the coach) with a typewritten agenda titled "Kayla Watkins - Player 1eaknesses, Liabilities and Options", demanding that she be given less ice time, and if her parents didn't agree, having the coach find her another team. Embarassed, the girl quit the team. The coach had no problems with her play. What a fucking asshole. I have a 7 year-old who oplays hockey. If one of these "hockey dad" asshole types pulls this kind of shit, I promise it will be the most embarrassing moment of his fucking life. This is why people hate lawyers (not you, of course, Gabe - you're one of the "good ones"). The imperious powdered douchestockings who think the entire world revolves around the guttering half-candlepower of their self-described brilliance. Fuck you, George Atis. Hopefully a hobo will smash an empty bottle of Valu-Rite over your empty skull and teabag you with his indescribably filthy satchel. Already the wheel of karma is rolling over your reputation, dickhole. Google results for "George Atis" now pull up pages of your douchebaggery instead of your law practice. Enjoy your fifteen minutes, asshole. You've earned it.

94 i love asking my liberal friends to tell me why they hate sarah palin. their answers are so convoluted and their faces twist around like silly putty.

they really have no real basis for it, it almost pains them to get the explanation out. every one of them...the rape-kit thing is usually what they finally settle on.

95 I have a friend who said that the governor snuck out of the building through a basement entrance. 

96 76 67 57 May she stay safe. Ditto to the guy who said ditto.

97 Enjoy your fifteen minutes, asshole. You've earned it. Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 13, 2011 08:58 AM (RxdPe) And when is his son anticipate debut in the NHL?

98 TV stayed on after press conference,  so I ended up with NBC Nightly News.  Mitchell appears and talks about her question,  and said "Reagan offered no explanation for his low charitable giving."

I still remember that, almost 30 years later.   I scared my kids by screaming at the TV.

Posted by: Miss Marple

--------

I wonder if Democrat Andrea Mitchell, hack, cares about Joe Biden's non-existent charitable giving, or Al Gore's non-existent charitable giving... or most of the entire left-wing's cheapness?  oh - and on top of the left's collective cheapness, does Andrea care about the left's willingness to waste as much of our tax dollars as possible and force our debt into the trillions?  Nah.

 Hack Andrea has a leftwing brat cocktail party to attend.

 

99 @29 Quit reminding me, geez!

On a positive note, hubs and I figured out how to avoid the IL tax increase by by some creative investing in our 'side' businesses.

We'll be out of IL in the next year or two, but there is no way in hell we are giving these idiots 2% more of our income.

Plus, we're doing our shopping, eating out, gas buying in IA, not too far away.
Costs a bit more in fuel, but so gratifying. Starve-the-beast mode.

I hate these &^%(&%.

Guess Barry didn't heal me last night.

100 76 67 57 May she stay safe. Ditto to the guy who said ditto. Posted by: Dave C at January 13, 2011 08:59 AM (p13tD) thanks

101 Pay "I Love Nazi Prison Guards" Buchanan thought Obama gave a "magnificent" speech. Magnificent, apparently, because he didn't fart during the delivery & managed to - sort of - keep from suggesting it was all Palin's fault. Though he DID talk about the need to elevated discussion, which sort of, kind of, sure hints at it... don't it? About 140 years after the Gettysburg Address and Lincoln's Second Inaugural, how the hell did the standard of what constitutes a "Magnificent Speech" slip SO DAMNED LOW? Apparently, all it takes is Speaking While Barak.

102 Empire of Jeff, why didn't the coach tell that dickhole to go fuck himself.  Guaranteed if he'd have pulled that shit on me his kid would've been the one to find another team.

103 Empire of Jeff, why didn't the coach tell that dickhole to go fuck himself. Guaranteed if he'd have pulled that shit on me his kid would've been the one to find another team. Posted by: Captain Hate at January 13, 2011 09:02 AM (olKiY) Probably because the Coach, not being a lawyer himself, would have gotten sued by this asshole, had to have hired his own lawyer, gone bankrupt, and sold his house to pay for his defense. Or something like that

104

Fair is fair.  He's been living in her vagina for years.

and her womb, too.

105

If you can stomach it, I suggest you read this professor's rant:

We have our own barbarian subculture

An Arizona Democrat, Representative Gabrielle Giffords, has been shot and possibly killed by an assassin armed with an automatic weapon. Her offices had earlier been targeted for vandalism for her support of health care reform.

Isn't it amazing that health care reform has become such a polarizing issue, and that the people who are raging the loudest are those who would benefit the most?

I'll take a wild guess here. The scumbag who committed this crime has been caught; I'll bet he'll turn out to be a Teabagger who listens to a lot of AM talk radio.
---------

It'll give you further insight (if you need it) into how the academy "thinks".

Oh, and you can leave a comment there.

106

Empire of Jeff:

Been there. Take some comfort in the fact that this guy's kid will get burned out early or, unfortunately, get injured from being pushed. The point is that the kids have fun, learn a sport, exercise, develop team skills, and learn about life. These jerks that fulfill thier own athletic fantasies through their kids end up alienating everybody, including their kid, who usually cracks under the pressure. Having been through that type of scenario several times (sons 19, 15, 7) I approach every new team and class with an eye toward who's going to be the asshole. There is one about 50% of the time.

107 Reagan explained that a lot of his money was donated to people as individuals and wasn't listed because it wasn't tax deductible. (These types of donations came out after his death.) He also spoke about how you don't trumpet alms-giving in the public square. TV stayed on after press conference, so I ended up with NBC Nightly News. Mitchell appears and talks about her question, and said "Reagan offered no explanation for his low charitable giving." I still remember that, almost 30 years later. I scared my kids by screaming at the TV. Posted by: Miss Marple at January 13, 2011 08:48 AM (Fo83G) That reminds me of back in 08, during the Rick Warren 'debate' with McCain and Obama.. Warren asked each one at what amount did they consider a person rich.. Obama answered without much hesitation, one million.. McCain gave a much better answer about he wants everyone to be rich.. Then answers the question with five million.. There was a short wrap up the next day on one of the morning shows when the answers where shown as the 2 or 3 second clips... They skipped McCain's part about wanting everyone to be rich and went right to the 5 million line. That's when I knew that it was going to be a rough year.

108 The reason Liberals loath Palin is obvious: she dared criticize The One with well deserved scorn and sarcasm during the very height of their Messianic Obsession/Group Orgasm over him. They can never forgive such blasphemy.

109 A buddy of mind posted this on Facebook.

Earth:The Pale Blue Dot

3 minutes long and WELL worth it.

110 111 Especially since it was the first time many of them orgasmed in years.

111 From the comments here, I'm glad I chose to skip the pep rally and the Fox tongue bath that followed it. Netflix is your friend.

112 http://twitter.com/redheadonfire2 Name Lauren Bio My name is Lauren, I'm 21 years old and a psych major at UOP. Follow my tweets! Heh.

113 I usually link to news stories rather than editorials, but American Thinker really nails this one:

Although the county has had reporting problems (the Sheriff is a remarkably sloppy administrator), the FBI has enough data to allow us to come to this conclusion: The citizens of Pima County are up to their necks in crime, especially when compared to neighboring Maricopa County. Thirty years of hyper-partisan Democrat-led law enforcement have resulted in the highest crime rates in Arizona. The citizen who lives in Pima County, compared to media-reviled Joe Arpaio's territory just next door, will have almost three times the chance of being murdered; is more than seven times as likely to be raped; is more than six times as likely to be assaulted; and more than seven times as likely to have experienced a property crime such as burglary, arson or car theft.

114 115 http://twitter.com/redheadonfire2

Name Lauren
Bio My name is Lauren, I'm 21 years old and a psych major at UOP. Follow my tweets!

Lauren, dear, here's the 1st rule of the Internets - what you put up will stay up for all perpetuity.  At least until the electricity goes out.

115 "Kayla Watkins - Player 1eaknesses, Liabilities and Options", demanding that she be given less ice time, and if her parents didn't agree, having the coach find her another team.

The coach dropped the ball there. Friend of mine coached a little league baseball team here which is big in these parts. When the season started he called all the parents together in a meetings and explained how the league worked and put forth a question to them; did they want to play every game to win or did they want to play to let the kids have fun and allow all to play?

The parents of courser all said yes, let all the kids play. That lasted about until the first loss then it became a blood sport for a couple of the parents who wanted to bench some of the less talented kids. He called them all back together again and explained how they were going to have to find another coach and why. The other parents jumped on the complainers hard and they STFU.

116 The imperious powdered douchestockings who think the entire world revolves around the guttering half-candlepower of their self-described brilliance.

I'm stealing that.

117 Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2011 09:07 AM (+Z6ve)

Our 16-year-old daughter played little league baseball when she was eight. She was more coordinated, had a much better arm, and could knock the snot out of the ball. But she almost never played, because of this kind of crap.

She is now playing softball, and is more successful than any of the boys on her old team. The one problem is that when we have a catch, it hurts like hell; and she thinks it's funny to scare the hell out of me by throwing at my head.

118

Darby Township (PA) To Issue Fines Over ‘Saved SpotsÂ’

The way I see it is this: if I shoveled out my car, and put in the effort to clear the space, then dammit, I should get to "save" that space for when I return.  If that's wrong, then I demand payment from the city in exchange for my efforts.  Or am I expected to believe the road crews that do the plowing will come along and shovel out every car?  If someone is visiting the area briefly, fine, let them use the space.  But I don't want my neighbor Bobby, the slacker who only leaves the house to buy weed and beer and who lives off welfare, sliding into my neatly shoveled spot because he's too damn lazy to clear one out himself. 

On the other hand, it's foolish to get into a fist fight over someone "stealing" your parking spot. There are more important things in life than getting the spot closest to your front stoop.

This is one of the reasons I thank God every day that I don't live in a city.

Am I completely wrong?

119 Hmmm.  No mention of 'Mrs. George Atis.'

Maybe she didn't make the cut.

120 122 Hmmm.  No mention of 'Mrs. George Atis.'

Maybe she didn't make the cut.

More like she quit the team entirely. 

121 If You Voted For Pat Quinn...Slap Yourself

Written by Illinois Patriot

Sung to the tune of "If You're Happy And You Know It"

Music at http://kids.niehs.nih.gov/lyrics/happyand.htm

If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you're broke and you know it,
Stop your spending start your cutting
If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you keep voting democratic

Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you keep voting democratic

Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

IllinoisÂ’ broke and we know it,
Our jobs fleeing will surely show it
If you keep voting democratic

Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

66% higher taxes is just nuts,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

66% higher taxes is just nuts,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you empty out the bank,
Then your state is gonna tank
66% higher taxes is just nuts,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you're broke and you know it,
Stop your spending start your cutting
If you voted for Pat Quinn,
Slap yourself (Slap face twice)

If you're happy and you know it,
Then your face will surely show it
If you're happy and you know it,

Â…You probably live in Indiana!

122 Greetings, 'rons.  25 degrees here in coastal Georgia.  Global warming is killing us.

Haven't read all the comments, but I just heard on Fox radio that Brett Favre's sister, Brandi, was arrested for operating a meth lab or something.

123 Beck is thanking the president for being "the president of the United States" emphasis on United and saying "that was a great speech"....

124 126 Beck is thanking the president for being "the president of the United States" emphasis on United and saying "that was a great speech"....


Government mind control right there.

125 Probably because the Coach, not being a lawyer himself, would have gotten sued by this asshole, had to have hired his own lawyer, gone bankrupt, and sold his house to pay for his defense. Or something like that

Posted by: nevergiveup at January 13, 2011 09:04 AM (0GFWk)

You might be correct but that's just fucking stupid; a coach doesn't have any legal responsibility to adhere to any subjective standard of "fairness" or what some dipshit parent thinks.  I'd think in a sane world a judge would throw out any horseshit like that but I might be wrong about that.

For the record, I once called a junior high softball coach because my daughter felt she'd been unfairly cut from the team.  I only did it after telling my daughter that I don't like questioning teachers' judgment and prefaced my comments to the teacher by telling him I didn't want to come off like an overbearing parent.  He responded that he didn't have enough staff helping him out with the team and sometimes made hasty decisions and said for her to continue to come to practice.

126 126 Beck is too fucking soft.

127 The Left has poured endless bile on Sarah Palin since 2008, up to and including assassination porn (and actual porn), and now they're calling her the one with the toxic rhetoric. 

128 Soft is when you know someone is your enemy but you are still swayed by their empty words.Grow a pair Glen.

129 Captain Hate: damn right. This motherfucker's feelings would get hurt and STAY hurt. nevergiveup: the coach came out and said she made no more or worse mistakes than any of the other kids on the team. This pussy lawyer embarassed her into quitting. And if his son was a superstar, he'd be playing AAA hockey, not A. Dagny: I've seen it. My son (5) and oldest daughter (7) just started. I've seen a dad have the coach bring HIS LITTLE GIRL over to him during practice so he could yell at her for skating poorly. She's six, jerkoff! And the funny thing is, one of the only dads there I'm friends with just retired from the Tampa Bay Lightning! He's been playing pro hockey for 15 years and he doesn't give a shit how his kid does as long as he's having fun. He didn't even send his kid out to play. The kid asked if he could. Contrast that with these fucking losers who peaked somewhere around age fifteen. Pathetic.

130 Posted by: Barbarian at January 13, 2011 09:22 AM (EL+OC)

didn't get to watch the whole speech, the person who had the remote, a lib through and through, kept turning the speech off as he seems to be annoyed at the president for not being liberal enough.  But afterward, the comments all over the place were like "greatest speech by the greatest orator of our time" kinds of comments to the point where I'm wondering what I missed?

131 Returning to the national television circuit, Gov. Chris Christie this morning praised President ObamaÂ’s speech yesterday in Tucson, where he addressed the nation on the assassination attempt on U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords that left six people dead and 13 others wounded.

“I thought it was excellent. I thought he did exactly what a leader should do at a moment like this,” Christie told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on "Good Morning America."


*sigh*

132 After watching and listening to the comments about the pep rally last night, I'm glad I didn't kill any brain cells actually watching.

Ventured over to MSDNC this morning, and the tongue bath for Barry continued.  Tom Brokaw, Peggy Noonan, Christie Hefner (the hell?), etc.

Then I showered.

133 It must be nice to be Immelt:

US to match Chinese terms for train order

The US is going to match Chinese terms with cut-price export financing for the first time to help General Electric win an order for 150 diesel-electric locomotives from Pakistan.

134 120 Right? It's very common. I've watched parents practically bankrupt themselves with camps/trainers/physical therapy/equipment with, I guess, the hope of a college scholarship. They could have paid the tuition many times over for the money they spent. In the process they make the kid neurotic, have impossible standards, screw up the academics, alienate every other parent, etc. I feel like an idiot for paying thousands for summer club lax travel when the boy didn't like the schools that offered him some money. Turns out that the private schools will give you about as much money as it takes to put you at public, even out of state, university levels. Girls have an easier time because of Title 9 but the whole youth sports world is beyond awful. It's politics more than talent. Right now we're dealing with a white racist lawyer highschool football coach who thinks that small inexperienced black boys HAVE  to be better than any white boys so plays them and loses while denigrating the team--obviously not his decisions.

135 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 13, 2011 08:58 AM (RxdPe) I've been coaching my daughter's soccer team for the last three years, (She's 8 now).. It's herding cats at times.. And I say this not to pat myself on the back, I think I'm kinda suck as a coach.. And I'm sure I have some parents who get pissed at me because I don't play their child enough (and I've been at a mix with experienced players.. Some kids who've been playing it all their lives and others who are first timers) My main concerns has always been that everyone gets a chance to play and make sure it was fun.. And no injuries either.. I've been lucky so far where I haven't had a vocal parent like that.. yet.. Maybe next year

136 "None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man's mind," Obama said.

None of us can know with any certainty what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of Loughner's violent mind?

Read what Loughner wrote. Loughner wasn't  mute, but spoke his mind. On that basis, evidence shows Loughner believing that our government uses mind control. Those thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of his mind.

Loughner's murderous shooting spree proved him capable of massive violence.

But prior to this, was his behavior ever violent? If it had been violent and not just weird, then witnesses, classmates or former victims of his would have said so.

And if he were prone to behaving violently, prone to no self control, he'd have not been given a mere law enforcement "warning" for running a red light on his way to his shooting scene.

Given the bizarre convolution of media bias and Dupnik opinion as information, don't be surprised if Loughner's defense blames the police officer being the "trigger" on Loughner's novel onset of violence, having granted a lenient warning instead of a ticket for running the red light. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired. On the other hand, given Loughner's reputation for drug abuse, Loughner's defense might try to blame the police officer for not issuing the ticket or for not finding reasonable cause to apprehend Loughner for driving while under the influence, hence also finding the weapons in Loughner's vehicle (were they present). Crazy is as crazy does.

137 all these new dinosurs found from a billion years ago and not ONE early man/transitional species found and those idiots buy into their crap. Posted by: str8 outta at January 13, 2011 08:49 AM (dwOwg) Are you sure about that? Not even one? Ninja, please.

138 Beck is thanking the president for being "the president of the United States" emphasis on United and saying "that was a great speech"...

Did Beck forget that Barry telephoned Sheriff Dumbass to tell him how awesome he is?

139 "In the complaint supporting Loughner's arrest, federal prosecutors argue that Roll wasn't simply seeking to pay a social call on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) when he showed up at the community outreach event where the shooting spree took place Saturday. Prosecutors and the FBI insist that Roll "was engaged in official duties" because he wanted to talk to Giffords and her staffers about problems with a surging caseload in federal courts in Arizona, particularly along the Mexican border."

This is typical U.S. Attorney charge inflation done for the sole purpose of allowing them to seek the death penalty.  Murdering a federal judge while engaged in official duties is a capital crime.  Murdering a federal judge who is just stopping by to say hello to a friend is not.   In the normal course, they could never prove this guy even knew Roll was a judge which is an essential element of the charge.  But, now that the Democraps have turned this tragedy into a political statement, this lunatic will be duly tried and duly executed.  Perhaps in that order.   If there was ever a candidate for the insanity defense, this guy is it. 

This guy had at least 7 encounters with law enforcement and each time one of Dipstick's deputies talked the complaining witness into dropping the charges.  If they had done their job, a judge could have made mental health treatment a condition of his probation.  Loughner would have gotten the treatment he needs and nobody would have gotten hurt. 

140 95 Sarah Palin lives in Andrew Sullivans head. Fair is fair. He's been living in her vagina for years. Posted by: nickless at January 13, 2011 08:57 AM (MMC8r) lucky bastard

141 133
I'm wondering what I missed?

Place yourself in a Lady GaGa concert and you'll know the feeling.

142 The citizen who lives in Pima County, compared to media-reviled Joe Arpaio's territory just next door, will have almost three times the chance of being murdered; is more than seven times as likely to be raped; is more than six times as likely to be assaulted; and more than seven times as likely to have experienced a property crime such as burglary, arson or car theft. Posted by: Ed Anger at January 13, 2011 09:14 AM (7+pP9) Where Democrats go pain and misery follow close behind.

143

Obama wants to be re-elected - so he's tracking right.  Shades of triangluation.

If he is re-elected?  The old hard-left Obama will re-emerge 2 seconds later.

 

 

144 Detroit's new voter block!

Failed state anyone?

145 I can't help but compare the pep rally last night to the memorial for the thirteen slaughtered soldiers at Ft. Hood.  How quickly that was swept out of the national conscience.  All the people swooning over the Great Orator have conveniently forgotten his "shout out" before mentioning the men and women serving under him who were viciously murdered by a Muslim.

Can't help but wonder how Tucson would have been spun if the killer had been, oh, a black muzzie, maybe?

146 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at January 13, 2011 09:24 AM (RxdPe)

It's the parents who were failures as athletes who are biggest assholes. They are trying to relive their "glory days," and perhaps improve upon them through their kids.

My wife and I were both fairly successful athletes, and neither of us give a rat's ass about our kids' athletic success. As long as they play hard and have fun, we are happy.

147

Not to beat the proverbial dead horse:

The economy is going absolutely nowhere.  And now the first real signs of the inevitable inflation are taking hold.

Eyes back on the ball people.

148 Dave. Just keep doing what you're doing. Hubby did that and made sure everyone played and had fun. Years later he went over to the high school and found himself suddenly in a bear hug. He didn't know who it was (kid had grown up) but the kid knew him and remembered him with love. Hubby remembered his name and they talked. Poor kid had lost both parents in the meantime. You don't even know when you are being  fair and reasonable what an impact you are having on a child. Good for you.

149

Jan. 13 (Bloomberg) -- The number of first-time claims for unemployment insurance payments jumped in the first week of 2011 to the highest level since October as more Americans lined up to file following the holidays.

Initial jobless claims rose by 35,000 to 445,000, according to Labor Department data released today.

 

Wait what happened to the jobs recovery the MFM told us we had last month? You mean it was only the usual holidays hiring that brought down unemployment? How unexpected

150 Posted by: Dave C at January 13, 2011 09:26 AM (p13tD)

Are the kids having fun, getting a little exercise and maybe, just maybe, learning a thing or two about soccer? If you can answer yes to all three questions, then you are a fantastic coach.

151 Hey NCRef, my sons are lax refs. They don't put up with much from asshole coaches. They are familiar with the type. Heh.

152 When Beck said he was selling his furniture and then I heard he bought a bigger better new hi tech house after he said he was selling his furniture cause he didn't "need" it and we should all do the same, I began to wonder about Beck.  After his comments about the speech, he moved on to brag about taking friends to see Spiderman and being asked if he wanted to meet Bono.  So he is so totally "the elite" it is difficult to take the man seriously anymore.  (apparently Beck wrote some glowing review of Spiderman and they were so delighted that this resulted in the Bono invite)

153

"This is one of the reasons I thank God every day that I don't live in a city.

Am I completely wrong?"

I don't live in the city, but I do live in a neighborhood where driveways are scarce & usually will only fit one car.  I hadn't been able to park within 2 blocks of my house for weeks.  I finally did before the snowstorm. I dug myself out, went to work, came home, & Dickhead Magee (who has a driveway!) had stolen it!  I wish I could save my spot, but I really don't want to be an obvious jerk about it. All I want is to park near my house and for 19 year old serial killer-looking shitheads to stop blasting "Pop Your Pussy" by 2 Live Crew from their car in front of my house at 10pm on a weeknight! 

154 I am not sure if anyone else has commented on this part of the President's speech last night.  What is this "expand your moral imagination" he talks of?

155 beck has become a shameless poser.

156 Posted by: Joanie (Oven Gloves) at January 13, 2011 09:37 AM (HaYO4)

Remington 870 with #8 shot.

157

What is this "expand your moral imagination" he talks of?

The man hung out with William Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.

 

158 OOPS!  Over at Gateway there's mention of the fact Gabby Giffords opened her eyes on Sunday.

Barky doesn't have magical healing powers after all.

159 157 What is this "expand your moral imagination" he talks of?

Give up your guns and your free speech rights, wingnuts! 

160 140 all these new dinosurs found from a billion years ago and not ONE early man/transitional species found and those idiots buy into their crap. Posted by: str8 outta at January 13, 2011 08:49 AM (dwOwg) Are you sure about that? Not even one? Ninja, please. Posted by: eman at January 13, 2011 09:26 AM (0aJSF) Please. not this.. here.. Allah can post one of his shitty atheist threads and you can go there to spew your bile and rhetoric and overheated metaphors.. Keep AoSHQ holy.. Odd request, I know.

161 The last week has been a test. What are your loyalties? What are your values? What are your principles? How well can you think? How open is your mind? How easily are you fooled? Many on the Right have failed this test. A pox on them.

162 The reason Liberals loath Palin is obvious: she dared criticize The One with well deserved scorn and sarcasm during the very height of their Messianic Obsession/Group Orgasm over him. They can never forgive such blasphemy. Posted by: CoolCzech

Yep.

163 Please. not this.. here.. Allah can post one of his shitty atheist threads and you can go there to spew your bile and rhetoric and overheated metaphors.. Keep AoSHQ holy.. Odd request, I know. Posted by: Dave C at January 13, 2011 09:41 AM (p13tD) Heed your own words, Sir.

164

157 Go look toward the bottom of the speech thread. The entire paragraph that was from was nonsense speak. It also included "sharpen your instinct for empathy" and seeing how our "hopes and dreams" are bound together. Complete hackery and bullshit.

However, curious googled "moral imagination" and it appears to have several academic douchebag jargon definitions. The liberal professors can't even agree. The most prominent definition is half a page of bull which, when interpreted, means "see consequences". Other definitions suggest pure relativism and others tie moral imagination to the environment---Surprise!!

165 It has become quite evident that FNC, Beck et al...have implemented their own version of the Fairness Doctrine.

I'm done with them.

Hopefully, Rush will still lead the charge.

166 "U.S. jobless claims climb 35,000 to 445,000"via twitter breaking news

167 >>Keep AoSHQ holy Holy? Here? Hmm. I must have missed that memo.

168 Beck has a new BFF:  Bono. 

169

Thanks Circa, all the dope affected his mind.

Double thanks to Dagny.  So 'moral imagnination' can mean whatever a person wants it to mean.  Talk about sloppy reasoning.  Oh wait I am tlaking of the lightbringer who was way smart...  oi  *gag*

170 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at January 13, 2011 09:35 AM (LH6ir) Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2011 09:33 AM (+Z6ve) The best part from this year was one of the parents came up to me at the end of the season told me that she wanted to play again.. This was her first year playing and she had a small break down at the first game. She sat on the bench with her mom for most of the first game.. She finally felt comfortable enough to play for the second game and was wanting to play since then.. That made my season. I do push my own daughter a little bit.. Mostly because she'll go off and play when she's supposed to be on the bench, being ready to go in and play..

171 All I want is to park near my house and for 19 year old serial killer-looking shitheads to stop blasting "Pop Your Pussy" by 2 Live Crew from their car in front of my house at 10pm on a weeknight! A) parking is first-come-first-served B) awww, that's sweet, but I'm 38, you smooth-talker C) 2 Live Crew were a vibrant and important part of our musical tapestry D) okay, granny. I'll try to keep it down 

172 Almost seeming to cover an outreach for the Loughner bad seed offshoot formerly cultivated at the Tucson high school affiliate of the Ayers/Obama/Annenberg Small School Workshop format.

Interesting. Maybe the program wasn't such a failure in light of Ayers' "Bring the war home" comment.

173 I see in the sidebar that NPR is carrying the racism ball for Precedent Healer.  The best one I've heard so far is not the Latino angle, but rather the "Loughner shot that white woman and all those white people because Obama is black" angle. 

Weird, wild, stuff. 

174 who is this guy on the radio claiming to be Beck?

175 Actually, Bono isn't a bad guy. I think he treated GWB well, put his money where his mouth is, and came out appreciating what Bush did for aids in africa (spend money).

176 Obama could have done much to end the political crime that began after the shootings. He did not do so. He waited until he could use the events to his advantage. Many fools out there fell for it. Idiots.

177 See my #44, above, Jane for a link to two sources about Giffords January 9th eye opener.

178 Fox News reports Peter Fonda has found a body in his car. 

179 I hate to be a downer, but I can see Obama getting reelected come 2012. For no particular reason anyone will be able to put their finger on. The MSM will rejoice. The Republic is doomed.

180 Heed your own words, Sir. Posted by: eman at January 13, 2011 09:43 AM (0aJSF) Like I said, odd request.. I hated those pissing contests at Tepid Air about Intelligent Design/Evolution.. Didn't want to see this morph into something like that.

181 182 They had to do something with Wellstone after the pep rally

182 184 Yeah. I quit going there mostly for that reason.

183 Dagny, owww that is so wrong ...  But with Dems, it is their idea of classy.  Especially Chicago Dems leaving messages, yes they have never heard of answering machines.

184 I think Ebola will not be re-elected because, for one thing, the economy can't recover. This episode will do him no lasting good.

185 Varney was not happy about the economy this morning.  445,000 jobless, 1.1% increase in food prices, and the rise in gasoline prices.  He used the word 'inflation.'  So look out.  Barnenke and Geithner are about to encounter the economic version of that giant boulder Indiana dodged.  Alas we are going to be along for the ride.

186 Posted by: eman at January 13, 2011 09:53 AM (0aJSF)

I also think he will be easily re elected and I'm not even sure the republicans will field a viable challenger.  If anything his sole challenger might be hillary but that depends on whether or not after Begala's demonizing of Sarah Palin we see Carville today.

187 182, That's funny. I don't care who you are.

188 President's speech last night.  What is this "expand your moral imagination" he talks of?

That isn't even "rhetoric". Consider the Stephen Diamond  (UC Santa Clara Labor Attorney) research papers published and available online (I linked here) back when Sen. Obama announced his interest in running for POTUS. Point being, "expand your moral imagination" is a curriculum enforced exercise in Ayers' educational format that Obama with Annenberg funded and promoted. Coincidentally, Loughner's high school educational experience was at the Ayers' Small School Workshop affiliate in Tucson.

189 Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2011 09:49 AM (+Z6ve) I know Bob Geldoff (however you spell his last name.. Pinky Floyd from the movie, 'The Wall'.. And I guess he's done other things) said some nice things about W. Mostly that W. has followed through with the money to Africa for AIDS.. (one more of the out of control spending that I didn't like from him

190 188 I think Ebola will not be re-elected because, for one thing, the economy can't recover.

See, thats the Republicans problem now, red meatia will make sure of that

191 Here's the pot calling the kettle black:

Turkey PM: Netanyahu has worst government in history of Israel

/I'm sorry, is this a racist idiom? 

192 However, curious googled "moral imagination" and it appears to have several academic douchebag jargon definitions

I know, can you believe it?

193 Wow Maverick Muse, this falls under the Six Degrees of Bill Ayers?

194

Obama wants to be re-elected - so he's tracking right.  Shades of triangluation.

When I was watching the news in the laundromat last night, they ran footage of Obama getting out of the plane with Michelle, soundbite, etc. Then it was Reagan speaking after the Challenger disaster, and finally Clinton after OKC and the later his "taking on the right wing." They threw Reagan in there for a little fairness and balance.

195

one more of the out of control spending that I didn't like from him

Except it actually did something positive.  I refer you to the Crapulus for the countervailing examaple.

196

Obviously, the "we" in "We can be better," was directly targeted (notice the violence implicit in my word choice) at those on the right.

Obvious from the headlines which continue to subliminally suggest that only the rhetoric, and the intent, of the right is toward violence.

I honestly, in the depths of my heart, think that freedom in this country over.  At least the freedom that the founders intended.  The political class and the elite left are our masters, or as they see themselves, our benefactors. 

Freedom will be able to be found in the coming decades, but not in this country.

And that is just my ignorant opinion.

197 Didn't want to see this morph into something like that. Posted by: Dave C at January 13, 2011 09:51 AM (p13tD) I don't like that stuff either. When I see a statement that I think is simply not accurate, I challenge it. I will not stop doing that.

198

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at January 13, 2011 09:57 AM (mHQ7T)

What? No pictures of Lincoln?

199

"A) parking is first-come-first-served
B) awww, that's sweet, but I'm 38, you smooth-talker
C) 2 Live Crew were a vibrant and important part of our musical tapestry
D) okay, granny. I'll try to keep it down "

Hey waitaminute! 1st of all, you're older than me and 2nd I just prefer Fuck Shop to Pop That Pussy is all! So there! 

 

200 He used the word 'inflation.'  So look out.  Barnenke and Geithner are about to encounter the economic version of that giant boulder Indiana dodged.  Alas we are going to be along for the ride.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 13, 2011 09:55 AM (rVtCQ)

Global demand for food and oil is going up.  Supply and demand.  Monetary policy is not behind this.  If it were, there would be a fairly uniform increase is prices across most/all services and commodities, which is not the case.  Poor people in other countries are eating more and driving cars now.  Until the supply of energy and food goes up to match or exceed the increase in demand, there's little we can do by tightening the money supply.

If we want food and oil to be cheaper, which we all do, we need to push the Libtards out of the way.  They're the ones preventing the expansion of the supply of both food and fuels.

 

201 Gabby opened her eyes, saw Pelosi, Michelle, Barky, etc. and promptly closed them again.  I know I would have.

202

The last week has been a test.

What are your loyalties?
What are your values?
What are your principles?
How well can you think?
How open is your mind?
How easily are you fooled?
Many on the Right have failed this test.
A pox on them.

Posted by: eman at January 13, 2011 09:42 AM (0aJSF)

Or, a lot of people, right and left, can't handle it when someone disagrees with them on a relativley big issue. Can't handle it.

203 http://tinyurl.com/47waeaj Expanding the Moral Imagination Starts out with this quote: Any religion whose prerequisites for individual salvation donÂ’t conduce to the salvation of the whole world is a religion whose time has passed. ------- The rest is liberal, collective salvation claptrap..

204

Cap'n Ed and Allahpoundit are pretty darn excited about the Chairman's big rally memorial speech last night.  Angling for spots on the Fox Allstars Panel?  Gah!

205

208 Dave C

Save the Collective since you the individual is but a cog in the machine.

206 208, Indeed so. The collectivization meme is central to a Leftist thought. Ebola just can't stop himself.

207

Monetary policy is not behind this.

It's a menu of policy choices that are driving prices up.  Idiotic restrictions on GMF, diversion of crops to ethanol, monetary policy, drilling restrictions that drive up energy prices and therefore transportation costs, etc, etc.

 

208 OOPS!  Over at Gateway there's mention of the fact Gabby Giffords opened her eyes on Sunday.

Barky doesn't have magical healing powers after all.

When shot, her aide sat her upright and she was conscious and alert. She's been responding to verbal commands all along except when sleeping, some rest being drug induced while relieving pressure from her bloodied brain, and her neurologist has been keeping the public updated on her stable (critical) condition.

Yet, there remain those people, media sources and the public, who only recognize Obama's voice upon whose majesty the laws of physics reside.

209 208 Jesus. The communists have been so thorough.

210 The right pundits are playing a jedi mind game on the left.

Who can say vitriolic things first?  Then pounce.

211 Reactionary there is the rise in global demands as other parts of the world catch up.  And you are right, we need to un-elect all the fools who have decided a small fish is more important than feeding humans or they dont want oil derricks off shore ruining their beach view.

212 How big of a hack leftwing bitch is Andrea Mitchell?

Have some pitty.  She gets porked by Alan Greenspan.  Think about that.

*shudder*

213 It's official.. Fox News Radio just announce that Gabby Giffords has opened her eyes for the first time.. Despite news reports from earlier this week that reported her opening her eyes then.. Barack really is a "Healer" *facepalm*

214 Shit that I drop cause you know it don't stop,
Mr. 187 on the motherf**king cop,
Tick tock now I'd a glocked ya' some nuts and a cock.

215 179 Actually, Bono isn't a bad guy.


On a personal level, he certainly is. I know someone who married into that family.  They're all vicious scummers.

216

Paul Mirengoff at Powerline -

In any event, the invocation could have used more God, less Mexico, and less Carlos Gonzales.

217 From the President's speech last night (cribbed from a NRO Corner Post).

You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations – to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless.  Already weÂ’ve seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems.  Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government. (emphasis mine)

"Gun Safety Laws"  is a dog whistle.  Rule #1 when reading a Clinton or Obama speech:  When you see a new euphemism, it's a warning of future, probably intense, political action on the matter.

The oohs and aaahhs from the NRO about the Tuscon speech are naive in the extreme.  Wordsmiths often melt in the warm glow of a well-turned phrase, and the establishment Republicans at the NRO sure as heck are no exception.  OK, Geraghty seems to have a bit more resistance.

I think the anti-Palin, anti-Tea Party stuff in the media will intensify, with Obama doing more of his above the fray, Denver-style rhetoric while the operatives get their marching orders.  Good Thug-Bad Thug, if you will.

218 I thought Obama's Speech sucked. So whatever.

219 ...
Greatest Dem memorial ever:
- no minister or pastor
- cheering and 'we love you'
- false healing ("she opened her eyes, she opened her eyes, she opened her eyes")
- campaign t-shirts?

If this were Palin, there would be Prime Time specials devoted to this and calls for resignation by every network.

220 Beck's call-in shill caller thought Bam's speech was just wonderful. Just like Allah and Gabe.

221 Hey waitaminute! 1st of all, you're older than me and 2nd I just prefer Fuck Shop to Pop That Pussy is all! So there! The Moronettes are no shrinking violets.  

222 I have no idea if this is true or not but it's one of my new favorite jokes.. In the middle of a U2 concert, Bono asks the crowd between songs to be quiet.. Then he starts to slowly, deliberately, clap his hands.. "Every time I clap my hands," Bono goes on to say, "A child in Africa dies of AIDS." At that point, someone in the crowd shouts out, "The fucking stop clapping your hands already!"

223 Beck just played a clip of someone saying "hi, I'm Mexican" and then the crowd erupting and Beck asking if this was meant as a political statement"

Who opened with this?

224

The crisis calls on religious leadership for a break with the past as decisive as those that opened the way for society to address equally corrosive prejudices of race, gender and nation. Whatever justification exists for exercising influence in matters of conscience lies in serving the well-being of humankind.

From the author of "Expanding the Moral Imagination" (a NYT columnist btw).

225

Raise your hand if you are surprised that gas prices and food prices are going up.....Congress needs to do two things before repealing ObamaCare: repeal Obama's ridiculous moratorium on offshore drilling, and overturn the stupid court opinion that shut off the water to California's Central Valley in the name of saving a goddam bait fish.

Recessions are cyclical and inevitable -- depressions are caused by government policy.  So is inflation.

I feel like I am living a rerun of the Jimmy Carter administration.  next summer: gas lines and meat shortages, followed by 12% inflation.  If Congress can't turn this around, the "misery index" will be over 25 by the time Obama stands for reelection.  It won't matter if Republicans nominate Ron Paul by that time.

226

This week has proven beyond all doubt with color glossy photo pictures and detailed drawings with arrows showing that all fucking liberals are mentally ill.

I live in Tucson - now I'm sure that there is absolutely no rational reason to stay here under a sheriff who is incapable of equally enforcing the law when it comes to conservatives. He's the type to fake "shot while resisting arrest" events so he can murder teach those uppity negroes conservatives a lesson.

 

227 from the merits of gun safety laws I caught that too.. BTW.. Beck is now criticizing the campaign rally..

228 Some article I read (at Reason?  I dunno, some place) said that Obama/"the organizers" have taken criticism from both the Left and the Right over the t-shirts and tone of last night's pep rally.  Is there any evidence of that?  I mean, has the Left actually criticized Obama?  All I've seen so far is slobbering. 

229

Cap'n Ed and Allahpoundit are pretty darn excited about the Chairman's big rally memorial speech last night.  Angling for spots on the Fox Allstars Panel?  Gah!

Posted by: right field bleachers at January 13, 2011 10:02 AM

They're not the only ones. The real headline of the day is that the squishes among the "conservative" pundit-class -- including those at NRO and, to some extent, Malkin, who dropped her normal foot-stamping outraged outrage to say Osama Obama's overlong, pompous screed was "the right speech" -- have so bought into the "new civility" act that they went Full-Chris-Matthews on the pep rally.

The Mohammedan Mouthpiece got himself re-elected last night, with big doses of arrogance, medicine-show hokum -- "Gabby opened her eyes!" (as if Obama Himself had caused that) -- and all the trimmings.

230 A NYT columnist you say.  I wonder if they did a mental roto-rooting of Krugman.  This might explain why Krugman has become such a hack.

231 beck playing clips from "Zitegist"....man this sounds like propaganda

232 MrScribbler - don't get so upset.  Obama may be stupid, but he was surely smart enough to know that he could not afford to lay an egg with this speech.  This was not real heavy lifting by him or his staff.  Surely you didn't expect him to get through the next two years without doing something right.  One nice speech about some dead people isn't putting anyone back to work, fixing our health care mess, or stopping the slide in home prices.

233 If Giffords opened her eyes and saw Pelosi Galore's unblinking bugeyes looking at her, she'd probably think that Tommy D'Allesandro's scrunt daughter had come to finish the job for voting against her for minority leader.

234 Posted by: Y-not at January 13, 2011 10:13 AM (pW2o

What I'm seeing is that the left never ever never ever criticizes their president and that the right has decided to join them.  The left does it better though, the right is uncomfortable doing it, they don't like being covered with drool...it's messy

235 I get the feeling I should blog about 'moral imagination' and how it ties with  more Oriental religious frameworks where the society takes presedence over the individual.  It seems the collectivest leftists are staging a Counter-Renaissance.

236 I don't go along with Obama getting re-elected.

The economy is still in the sewer, people are still losing their homes, still unemployed (my lib sister has been unemployed for two years), gas and food prices are rising.

President FUBAR hasn't focused on jobs like he promised his underlings.  Even my Barky-worshiping sister is feeling just a tiny bit of buyer's remorse.

He gave a semi-decent speech last night.  We're still veering into Jimmuh II territory.

237 These are not the lies you're looking for. Move along. Move along.

238

" I mean, has the Left actually criticized Obama?  All I've seen so far is slobbering. "

The only one I've seen criticize so far is Kirsten Powers.

 

239 The Mohammedan Mouthpiece got himself re-elected last night


With respect, no, he did not.

240 Can't help but wonder how Tucson would have been spun if the killer had been, oh, a black muzzie, maybe? Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 13, 2011 09:31 AM (UOM4 Or if Giffords had been a Republican

241 I still want to know about who paid for those t-shirts and whose idea it was.

Posted by: Miss Marple at January 13, 2011 07:45 AM (Fo83G)

Heard on the news (F&F) unfortunately, that that bright idea was from the university.  Wouldn't a competent WH coordinator have nixed that idea?

Iowahawk was getting all kinds of mentions for his side-splitting observations  about Griefapalooza last night.  I'm surprised that Hollyweird, being so bereft in ideas and good writing, hasn't offered him big bucks yet.

The righty blogosphere was on fire last night.  People were making comments about CDs on sale in the lobby; time to get your lighters out!; Did anyone throw panties on stage?  And the best T-shirt slogan:  I attended the Tucson Memorial and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

As for FOX, they WERE the only reason I was keeping cable.  I'd dump it in a minute, but the mister would have heart failure.  I caught Gretchen's comments about gun control the other day and couldn't believe it.  I used to think Allyson C. was street-wise and cynical enough to see through all the libtard propaganda, but no.  Sobbing?  What an idiot.

FWIW, I've never heard Doocey make a squishy comment (he mentions Rush a lot), and Brian's got some common sense and skepticism where the left is concerned. Judge Nappy, Stuart Varney, Charles Payne, Eric Bolling and The Great American seem to be the only ones consistently holding fast to conservative positions. 

242 The only one I've seen criticize so far is Kirsten Powers.

Blind squirrel + acorn

243 I hate to be a downer, but I can see Obama getting reelected come 2012. For no particular reason anyone will be able to put their finger on.

It doesn't help that conservatives seem to feel the need to bend over backwards and praise El Jefe whenever he does something right, or even doesn't fuck up royally.

Really, even if his speech at the memorial was OK (I can't listen to that stilted  droning asswipe talk, but I read the text, which seemed a mix of unremarkable but unobjectionable eulogy and some pointless new-agey bullshit), what the fuck is gained by creaming your pants over it, as so many in the pundit class seem desperate to do? The guy gave a halfway-competent speech. Big fucking deal. Is that his job? Why are conservative pundits setting the bar so low for this asshole?

244 I think the anti-Palin, anti-Tea Party stuff in the media will intensify, with Obama doing more of his above the fray, Denver-style rhetoric while the operatives get their marching orders.  Good Thug-Bad Thug, if you will.

It's worked really well for him so far, even when the mask has slipped.  99 problems, and a bitch ain't one...

245 Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 13, 2011 10:19 AM (G/MYk)

Very accurate, and unpleasant, point.

This is submission to the gods of the left rather than to allah. But the end result is similar.

246 The best we can hope for is the Right is playing along to help make this whole episode fade away.

247 Posted by: rockmom at January 13, 2011 10:17 AM (w/gVZ)

I have been told that "the economic problems were caused by previous administrations, most notably, the Bush administration" and that "poor president obama has been trying valiantly to dig us out of the hole".  I have also been told that "the American people had their tantrum with the last election and look, before they even began their takeover of the house and effort to get  rid of health care, they have already been neutered so he will win his second term as people will accept the current economic conditions as not of his making and the new norm"

a lot of people agreed with the friends who said this....

248 Expanding the Moral Imagination


Starts out with this quote: Any religion whose prerequisites for individual salvation donÂ’t conduce to the salvation of the whole world is a religion whose time has passed.

Through 12 years of Catholic school, I'd tell those bozos what I heard:  You come into this world alone, and you leave it alone.  Ain't nothing collective about it.

249 So we went to this rally last night, and a rockin' memorial broke out! It was EPIC!

250 That's fine, but I don't remember any well-turned phrases from the pep-rally speech.

To be the greatest orator of our time, it's odd that no one ever quotes Barry.

I mean really, he's not even that good a reader unless it's spelled out pho·neti·cal·ly.

251 Obama: 'I WANT AMERICA TO BE AS GOOD AS SHE IMAGINED IT'

Is he saying America is bad?

252 260, corpseman



+1000

253 "poor president obama has been trying valiantly to dig us out of the hole".

Point out that he's just not very good at it then.

254 Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 13, 2011 10:18 AM

Y'all -- and others who say I'm wrong about Osama Obama getting Himself re-elected last night -- are talking sense.

If the electorate in general had sense, 52% wouldn't have voted for the Mohammedan Mouthpiece in '08.

If Fucks News, NRO, TepidAir and the rest of the so-called "conservative" squishes had sense, they wouldn't have been gulled by a medicine-show speech by a notorious America-hater.

255 Allahpundit's buddy No Labels Frum continues his hearse chasing and general douchiness;

David Frum on MSNBC calls Sarah Palin a "big melting iceberg"

But it isn’t merely that Frum thinks Palin did not come off as presidential– she came off even less presidential than she has in the past. “She’s mad– that showed. She’s madder than she is sad. She’s very wounded by what has been done to her,” he explained, a sentiment he found inappropriate in comparison to the gravity of the event she was discussing.

She addressed vicious lies and insults up front and by herself, unlike No Balls Frum who sends his son to fight for him. Maybe she should have followed No Balls Frum and sent Willow to fight her battles

256  The best we can hope for is the Right is playing along to help make this whole episode fade away.

Posted by: eman at January 13, 2011 10:22 AM (0aJSF)

 

With unemployment bouncing back up again this should have a short shelf life. Slick Willie had the benefit of an improving economy. Barry not so much

257 this falls under the Six Degrees of Bill Ayers? Posted by: Anna Puma

Pretty sick, Obama's lip service while kissing himself.

On the Ayers' Small School Workshop program gone national and well fortified by Annenberg, witness what gets scrubbed from internet availability as the latest revision of revisionist meaning is made manifest in all of Obama's glory as he perpetually ducks responsibility for horrible results from his own work history. Unlike the Potus who occasionally gives lip service to national unity, Ayers needn't "transform" his principles having achieved immortality on his own premise that overtly denies relevance to undesireables for any other purpose than as fodder for his own abusive power.

Loughner was "obsessed" with conscience dreams.

Obsession vs. specialization depends upon socialization skills required for successful formal educational matriculation. But either way, the idea was not Loughner's novelty. The idea was introduced during high school curriculum and gained momentum thereafter through the years of his thoughts devoted to that idea.

Now Obama advises Americans to close their eyes to the fabrication of evidence (blame Tea Party & Palin) and denial of evidence (no way to know evidence lost/destroyed from the crime scene during the first three hours following the shooting as the local tv station subtitle ran live at the time, linked here at AoShq, that Sheriff Dupnik failed to secure the scene for three hours after which no ammo or shells were to be found on scene). And how better to distract the public's attention than to direct everyone into their own imagination with the suggestion to dismiss distinction between right and wrong, "expand your moral imagination".

258 Normally IÂ’d wait for video to post but that could take an hour or more, so here are his remarks as prepared for delivery. He did an excellent job, actually, much better than I expected. Some righties will dislike it just because itÂ’s him and some lefties will dislike it because, unlike them, he wasnÂ’t in the mood for voodoo, but most everyone else will think itÂ’s lovely.


Allahpundit



Lovely.  Lovely for Pete's sake.

259 Btw, Loughner's high school educational experience was at the Ayers' Small School Workshop affiliate in Tucson.

260 The oceans are finally rising (or receding. I always forget). Thank you, Obama. Oh, I just spoke to God, he says thank you, too.

261 I didn't hear the speech, I read the text last night.. not sure how much of a variation there was other than the 'report' that Giffords opened her eyes for the first time.. I thought it was okay.. Other than the dog whistle terms of gun control most everyone here caught.. It was a for a memorial service. But I knew that everyone was going praise it as his best speech since the last one. and the next one will be better than that.. and so on.. in time, this too will pass like all the other speeches that helped to define his 'Presidency'.

262 Why are conservative pundits setting the bar so low for this asshole?

Holding black men to the same standards as white men is considered an act of racism.

263 Carville may be a douche but he was absolutely right about one thing, it's all about the economy. Come 2012 nobody is gonna remember or care about Obama's kumbaya in Tucson, they are gonna care about their pocketbooks. Obamacare starts kicking in this year, the stimulus payoffs run dry in a couple months, states are going to be instituting draconian measures such as the 66% tax hike in Illinois and huge layoffs, the housing market has already dipped into depression levels and is going lower... and on and on. I wouldn't be too concerned with a pep rally in Tucson. People can't eat Obama's speeches.

264 Okay I'm a little disappointed by those who say "the speech sucked".

If you just read the written words on the page, they are fine words.  I think any of our better statesmen, R or D, could have recited that speech and done a good job.  The words are not bad words.

But they were delivered in a terrible pep rally atmosphere, yes, with those ridiculous t-shirts.  (Seriously, some university administrator should get their ass reamed for that idea.)  And we KNOW that the words were delivered by a guy who doesn't really believe that phrases like "we should all be civil to each other" really apply to him or his side.  Yeah I get all that.

So the "speech", defined as the actual words uttered, was fine.  But the "speech", defined as the whole theater of the event, was awful, yes.

265 I want to thank Thomas Crapper for many smiles over the years at the mention of his name and variants, a thousand great jokes, and not a few comfy and totally satisfying dumps taken.  Truly a world changing man.

266 Obama: 'I WANT AMERICA TO BE AS GOOD AS SHE IMAGINED IT' Is he saying America is bad? Posted by: Cherry π at January 13, 2011 10:23 AM (+sBB4) It is a common thing among Lefties to want the USA to become a great nation someday. They love what they will make of it when their revolution finally succeeds. It is a reflection of their narcissism.

267 Lovely.  Lovely for Pete's sake.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 10:27 AM (/siG4)

Did you expect anything different from that candy-ass?

268 Posted by: toby928™ at January 13, 2011 10:25 AM (S5YRY)

I have to be so careful how I respond as then they won't read it or worse they will accuse me of "being swayed by that conservative blog you are reading"  I've given them all the links to here and encouraged them to read.  All the lib/dem/left blogs sound exactly the same, if you read one, you've read them all.  I try to tell them that there are all kinds of people on this blog, not just die hard conservatives and that you guys are open to all kinds of ideas.  I'm really hoping they do come here to read it might open their minds a little.

Today I gave the link and said "here is your chance to expand your moral imagination, do you have enough courage to do so?"

269 You lost me, maverick. Are you saying go read "Conscience Dreams of My Father"?

270 It seems the collectivest leftists are staging a Counter-Renaissance.

The authoritarians would have monopoly on power, and the masses enslaved. That's a given. That it was this way before the events including the American Revolution's success is also a given.

271 Posted by: curious at January 13, 2011 10:30 AM (p302b)

Curious, well God bless you for trying to change lost souls, but honestly - they are prejudiced bigots.  They cannot see us for who we really are, they think we instead are cardboard cutout stereotypes of idiot gun-totin' Bible-thumpin' rednecks.

272

How long until the first elected Dem comes out swinging, snarling and smearing to attack Republicans on the repeal of health care legislation? Anyone think the "new tone of civility" the Dems are oh-so earnestly clamoring for will survive 15 minutes of that debate?

273 Did Carter's "Cardigan Speech" get him re-elected?

274 If you find yourself agreeing with Allahpullsit, seek medical help right away.

275 If the electorate in general had sense, 52% wouldn't have voted for the Mohammedan Mouthpiece in '08.

People didn't vote for Barry because they were stupid.  They voted for him because they were ignorant.

Most people didn't know about his association with Bill Ayers, and they knew very little about Jeremiah Wright.  They were pissed at Bush and Republicans, and Obama ran as 'not Bush' in an era when Bush was very unpopular after years of media assassination (and some rough times in Iraq).

The media had sold Obama as a centrist who was new to Washington and uncorrupt.  Even in 2008, think about how many people accepted what the media said at face value.  After two years, People finally understand who Obama truly is, and they aren't pleased with him. 

The question now is, does the GOP screw that up?

276 Maverick Muse, right.  The seeds were sown in Europe but it took the virgin wilderness of America to sprout.  These people who babble about moral imagination want to roll things back to pre Black Plague feudal Europe.  I think we can both agree on that.

277 Through 12 years of Catholic school, I'd tell those bozos what I heard: You come into this world alone, and you leave it alone. Ain't nothing collective about it. This still fails to correct the other problems of anything collective.. If someone else is doing the work for me, why should I do it then? Other than death camps and massive unmarked graves.

278

Reuters should be ashamed for the violence inherent in their headlines that obviously is the cause of violent behavior around the world:

http://tinyurl.com/4fyfmx7

 

279 I have to be so careful how I respond as then they won't read it or worse they will accuse me of "being swayed by that conservative blog you are reading"

While Barry's motivations can be the subject of honest debate, the fact that he isn't making things better is not.  Your "friends" know this, they just need to lie to themselves and resent you not helping them.

nothing succeeds like success

280 The question now is, does the GOP screw that up?

Raises and waves hand frantically.

Oh oh oh I Know.

281 the problem with the speech was it's context. the 'together we thrive' t-shirts all over the place etc.

the shooter wasnt acting out because of political diatribe, he was a nut. the idiot sheriff in pima county opened his mouth and started this whole mess.

and obama alluded to the falsehood in the speech. a reasonably intelligent person would have concluded this just by reading the newspapers.

but he bit, and here we have a speech loaded with politics.

its a shame, i expected better seeing as he's college edumacated and such...

282 Speaking of "new tone of civility", Scott Walker has been governor a week and already getting death threats.

283 If the electorate in general had sense, 52% wouldn't have voted for the Mohammedan Mouthpiece in '08.

I really think a lot hinges on older voters.  A lot of them broke for Obama last time out of guilt or in response to pressure from their kids.  If the Republicans don't grossly mishandle Social Security and do something constructive vis a vis health care, then I really believe the Republicans will get those voters in 2012. 

Things like t-shirt pep rallies for a little girl's funeral will really get to those folks. 

284 Bonus headline: Bert Faver's sister busted in a meth lab.

285 Oh, and I usually don't bother ragging on Ed Morrissey, because I just don't think he's worth the effort, but his labeling of last night's fiasco as "Presidential" is laughable. 

Ed Morrissey is the single biggest argument against Tim Pawlenty's candidacy and squishy libertarianism. What an idiot. 

286 Rush better open a can of whoopass today.

The reaction on the right side to Obama's speech is ridiculous.

Wow, the guy gave a good speech, read off a teleprompter.

Big fucking deal, that's all that motherfucker does.  That's this one trick.

Someone needs to say, "This is the most crass, despicable thing I've seen.  Obama talked about the little girl jumping in puddles in Heaven, while he jumps in puddles of her blood to jumpstart his failed Presidency."

Who's going to step up?  Who's going to fight this bullshit?

287 From what I understand the Feds can still bring murder charges anyway since one of the Congresswomen's Aids was killed and thus, that is Federal. But it would have been nice to have 2 Federal Murder Charges .

Actually the aid was just there to go to a Walgreens to get a free T-shirt the Obama administration was handing out, but some guy with a concealed carry permit cut in line ahead of him so he went back outside and saw the Congress Woman and walked over to talk to her when the shooting started... or something - so shooting the Congress Woman is the only Federal charge because that is the narrative.

In other news two people were retroactively charged with carrying a gun within 1000 feet of a Federal official. The two were Joe Zamudio the concealed carry permit holder who ran towards the event and the person who picked up the shooter's gun - thus depriving him of his Constitutional right to bear arms.

When told that the Constitution prohibits ex-post facto laws Attorney General Holder replied: "That ex-post facto business only applies to laws - not executive orders".

288

If anyone thinks the same portion of people who voted for Barky but normally wouldn't have aren't ready to give him a pass again, look no further than this event. 

If you don't think it, then come on down here to Florida...I've got a deal for ya.

289 Sobering discovery ...

It's rare that hot booze does anything more than get you drunk, and possibly make you sick, but according to Dr. Yoshihiko Takano, the drink you're sucking on could facilitate the levitation of a train. After a party for a colleague, the Japanese scientist found that FeTe0.8S0.2 (composed of iron, tellurium, and tellurium sulfide), when soaked in warm booze overnight, shows signs of increased superconductivity -- another in a long line of liquor-enhanced discoveries that could have far reaching effects on everything from consumer electronics to public transportation.

290 297 Bonus headline

OK, that's some funny shit right there. 


Brett isn't evil, but he sure is an idiot.  He's completely destroyed his legacy.  Moron. 

291 'If anyone thinks the same portion of people who voted for Barky but normally wouldn't have aren't ready to give him a pass again, look no further than this event. '

---shit, just go to any college. it''s all right there on campus.

292 In the end, the major result of the insane violence of this single maniac will be that politics will be politics again and they (the politicians) will all be able to claim that they are heeding Barry's call for civility in political and social discourse.

293 270 Normally IÂ’d wait for video to post but that could take an hour or more, so here are his remarks as prepared for delivery. He did an excellent job, actually, much better than I expected. Some righties will dislike it just because itÂ’s him and some lefties will dislike it because, unlike them, he wasnÂ’t in the mood for voodoo, but most everyone else will think itÂ’s lovely.

Allahpundit

Lovely.  Lovely for Pete's sake.
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 10:27 AM

Did AP get a signed T-Shirt from David Frum?

294 The Other McCain has parts of the Zeitgeist documentary posted.. I'm going to try to watch part of it to see how odd it actually is..

295 So the "speech", defined as the actual words uttered, was fine.  But the "speech", defined as the whole theater of the event, was awful, yes.

I think speech means the whole enchilada.  Otherwise it's just a press release.

So the speech sucked.  And it wasn't the University's "fault."  They hit the tone that Obama wanted. 


It's somewhat Jan Brewer's "fault."  She's the governor of Arizona and should have been much more out in front since this happened.  There is no way Gov. Herbert would allow this type of shenanigans.  Shit, they have color guards and recite the pledge of allegian here for meetings of our business and community leaders. 

296

Do people listen to what he says? Do they hear the WORDS that he says? I'm getting the impression that they attend to his speechs like they are a song or a piece of modern art. Collective imagination is communism. Instinct for empathy, ditto. Hopes and dreams bound up in each other, same.

The right seems to be relieved that it wasn't fingured by Obama for murder like some old Uncle Sam poster. How was it a good speech. Tell me what words he used that were beneficial. What wasn't "rhetoric" or a call to collectivism.

I'll wait.

297

Looks like someone woke up the credit agencies. 

Would have been a nice a few years ago assholes.

298 So the "speech", defined as the actual words uttered, was fine.  But the "speech", defined as the whole theater of the event, was awful, yes.
Posted by: chemjeff

I agree, the speechwriters did an OK job. Barky did not. His advance team should have put a stop to the t-shirt, pep rally nonsense.

299 Six people died and all I got was this lousy T-shirt.

300

 the 'together we thrive' t-shirts

My heart went out to the parents of Christine Green, having to see that carnival atmosphere.  This was the most touching thing I saw about Christine after the events of last Saturday. 

301 Any statements from Judge Roll's family yet? 

302 he hawks his book, he hawks his gold, his wife is hawking a diet program....between him and Sarah Palin and o'really and hannity et all...they are  freakin money making machines....

and then they want you to take them seriously?

303 Did AP get a signed T-Shirt from David Frum?
Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2011 10:49 AM

Probably.

I'm also sure Frumpy had a special XXXXL shirt delivered to "Poppin' Fresh," too.

The only thing giving me slight optimism this morning is the reaction of commenters at TepidAir and NRO. Most of them are not buying the shit the squishy pundits are drooling out.

304

Beck just played a clip of someone saying "hi, I'm Mexican" and then the crowd erupting and Beck asking if this was meant as a political statement"
Who opened with this?

I think it was the guy in the Indian head dress. Yes it was political and yes it prompted more Arsenio Whoops from the college kids.

305 How would you like to be the parents of someone who was killed and in memorial they give you a "together we thrive" t-shirt.  It's like giving a widow a dinner for two coupon.

306 Do people listen to what he says? Do they hear the WORDS that he says? I'm getting the impression that they attend to his speechs like they are a song or a piece of modern art.

It reminded me of an early 60s Beatles concert with hoards of teenage girls screaming so loud you couldn't hear the music.  Of course they didn't hear what Goofy was saying.  They were there to get back the Big O magic of the 2008 campaign.

307 Bonus kitteh article.  No tag? Bad humans.

308 Here's a question: why, when none of the victims were college aged, would you hold a memorial service at a college campus to an audience of primarily college students? 

And were the families even at the event?  I hope to goodness not, for their sakes. 

309

re the SW Air story reported in the UK, God bless the pilot, and it looks like this is still America.

 

Except in the news--why is such a wonderful story breaking on the other side of the ocean?

310 Posted by: CJ at January 13, 2011 10:57 AM (9KqcB)

you know I got the impression from Beck that the guy was American born of Mexican ancestry.  That mean just that, he's American born of Mexican ancestry.  Almost all Americans who are American born have some other ancestry yet it seems that some groups identify first as their ancestry and second as Americans.  I wonder what makes some groups wholly assimilate and others keep their ethnic identity almost to the point of seeing themselves as not American except by birth?

311 Looks like someone woke up the credit agencies.


ahhh the old mafia-scam.....errr....credit scam....

312

237The Mohammedan Mouthpiece got himself re-elected last night, with big doses of arrogance, medicine-show hokum -- "Gabby opened her eyes!" (as if Obama Himself had caused that) -- and all the trimmings

A lot can happen in two years, but if he does win reelection, and I wouldn't bet against it now, we will look back at two weeks as sealing the deal for the Chairman--the week before Christmas, when the GOP in Congress folded like cheap suits to give the him several significant legislative victories; and the present week, when the Chairman's minions made a blood libel stick and then the GOP praised him for seeming to rise above the libel. 

Played like a fiddle, was the GOP.  Their epic November victory, largely due to the grudging support of the Tea Party, lasted less than 60 days.

313 ' I wonder what makes some groups wholly assimilate and others keep their ethnic identity almost to the point of seeing themselves as not American except by birth?'

---i hate the heritage crap. people claiming "im italian!" with such zeal, it's retarded.

my ancestors left their old shitty heritage in scotland and ireland for a reason. and i refuse to label myself as such.

when somebody asks me my heritage i always say 'western pennsylvania'.

that in a nutshell is it.

314 321 Bonus kitteh article.  No tag? Bad humans

I love cats and he looks like a charmer, but whenever I see one of these stories all I can envision is a cat pancake or coyote's supper.  It's just too darned risky to let a cat wander around like that. 

315 Did AP get a signed T-Shirt from David Frum?
Signed. But not "handwritten" if you get my drift.

316 Apparently Obama lied in his speech eulogy that Giffords opened her eyes for the first time shortly after he visited when she actually first opened her eyes on January 9th.

Here's a quote with my emphasis taken from a second source, The Tucson Sentinel, linked in the comments section:

Giffords is in a drug-induced coma in intensive care. Doctors frequently awaken her to check her responsiveness, and she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday—an encouraging sign, said Rhee said.

Despite Giffords' ability to follow commands, "We know that brain swelling can take a turn, so we remain cautiously optimistic,” said Lemole.

He described simple commands as: "can you open your eyes?" or "can you raise two fingers." Such simple tasks can tell doctors much about her condition, he said.

Giffords cannot speak because she is on a ventilator, and cannot see because of the area of her injury and the surgery requires her eyes be kept closed, the doctors said.

ADDENDUM: The original newspaper link from Small Dead Animals (not the one that I quoted, above) has been scrubbed from the Internet.

317 Here's a question: why, when none of the victims were college aged, would you hold a memorial service at a college campus to an audience of primarily college students?

Because Bambi can't fill a room bigger than a corner bar with anyone else, other than purple shirts.

318 ---i hate the heritage crap. people claiming "im italian!" with such zeal, it's retarded

I sort of disagree.  In my parents' generation (dad is in his late 70s now), the mill towns in the northeast were divided into ethnic neighborhoods, but not really divided as such.  People maintained their ethnic heritage because they were poor and that's kind of what they had, if you know what I mean.  But the pride was really about how their particular community's traditions and qualities contributed to the entire area.  Everyone had their traditional trades or skills or cultural things that made the entire community better. 

That seems to have changed with the more recent immigrants, legal and otherwise, but I think that the old way of looking at it was fine. 

319 curious,

Which Palin adviser edited her "blood libel" phrase?

320 I agree, the speechwriters did an OK job. Barky did not. His advance team should have put a stop to the t-shirt, pep rally nonsense.

Posted by: Retread at January 13, 2011 10:55 AM (brYN0)

 

Stop it? I'm sure they were the ones behind it. That classless asshole turns everything into a self-glorifying political event

321 "334 curious,

Which Palin adviser edited her "blood libel" phrase?

Posted by: maverick muse at January 13, 2011 11:10 AM (H+LJc)"

I'm not sure what you are asking, why you think I would know the answer or what you are getting at but, with you, I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot.

322 In other news Attorney General Holder announced that President Obama would in the future be addressed as "Your Royal Highness" or "Your Majesty" .

Answering the Constitutional objection to granting royal titles the Supreme Allied Commander General Holder replied: "It is not the government giving him this title, His Royal Highness gave it to himself - so the constitution doesn't apply. Besides we call judges 'Your Honor' and that is a royal title, so there is a legal precedent."

In other news, King for Life Obama granted royal mercy to his peasant Loughner while charging former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin with treason against the crown, and ordered her executed. Presiding at the execution will be Sheriff of Nottingham Dupnik and Duke Paul Krugman. 

323 That article at NPR is the best argument for defunding I've ever read.  I couldn't even finish it.

324 Geez, ed rendell is all set to go on to a media career and it sounds like Beck, in playing the leslie stahl interview is trying to trash his dreams.....

325

Phillip klein at AmSpec also loved the speech.  Guess he got the Journolist email.

commenters are roughing him up pretty good, however.

326 I seem to recall that last Memorial Day President Obama could not be bothered from a vacation to lay the Wreath on Memorial Day.  That said, from here on out I think we should all get free Memorial Day tee shirts from the government with a new theme every year.

327

Beneficial? For America or tactically, for us?

 

Â…Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding.  In the words of Job, “when I looked for light, then came darkness.”  Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermathÂ….

Â…Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

Â…And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, letÂ’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud.

 

Sure, the rest was political bullshit that benefits the left. So stop highlighting it and giving it more attention. Focus on what benefits us.

 

If we were smart, we’d be saying: “It’s great that the president had the courage to end this ugly attempt by Democrats to indict conservative Americans for mass murder. He stated the obvious, clearly, that rhetoric played no role in this atrocious crime. That should end the disgraceful behavior witnessed this past week, and allow us to focus on doing what the voters sent us here to do in November – steer the federal government back toward its constitutionally mandated mission.”

 

Win.

328 I wonder what makes some groups wholly assimilate and others keep their ethnic identity almost to the point of seeing themselves as not American except by birth?

Some groups get scholarships, preferential admission, preference in gov't contract bids, etc, etc, for claiming their ethnic group, some don't.

Also depends on what timeframe their forebears entered the U.S.  German-Americans were always regarded with suspicion, and then very forcibly assimilated in the early 20th century--gov't spies sent to their churches, German-language publications and private schools shut down.  This never happened to Swedes or Norwegians...

329 "People maintained their ethnic heritage because they were poor and that's kind of what they had, if you know what I mean.  But the pride was really about how their particular community's traditions and qualities contributed to the entire area. "


----- i agree with your last part. but i think it's far past time we leave the whole old world heritage mess on the trash-heap. that blood is long gone and diluted to the point of non-existence.

i have absolutely no more ties to the far away shit holes known as ireland and scotland. time to move on.

330

REPOST

The right seems to be relieved that it wasn't fingured by Obama for murder like some old Uncle Sam poster. How was it a good speech. Tell me what words he used that were beneficial. What wasn't "rhetoric" or a call to collectivism.

I'll wait.

Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2011 10:52 AM (+Z6ve)

Beneficial? For America or tactically, for us?

Â…Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding.  In the words of Job, “when I looked for light, then came darkness.”  Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermathÂ….

Â…Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

Â…And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, letÂ’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud.

Sure, the rest was political bullshit that benefits the left. So stop highlighting it and giving it more attention. Focus on what benefits us.

If we were smart, we’d be saying: “It’s great that the president had the courage to end this ugly attempt by Democrats to indict conservative Americans for mass murder. He stated the obvious, clearly, that rhetoric played no role in this atrocious crime. That should end the disgraceful behavior witnessed this past week, and allow us to focus on doing what the voters sent us here to do in November – steer the federal government back toward its constitutionally mandated mission.”

Win.

 

 

331 NYT reaction round-up"

Marc Thiessen, former George Bush speechwriter, in The Washington Post: He credited the president for taking on the civility debate directly. “This was unexpected. It was courageous. It was genuine. And the president deserves credit for saying it.”

John Weaver, former political adviser to Senator John McCain of Arizona, on Facebook: “The president had exactly the right tone and was pitch perfect for the nation last night. And, when juxtaposed against . . . well, you know who… ahem….”

Mark Salter, the former speechwriter and senior adviser for Mr. McCain, in an email: “It was excellent in tone, message and delivery.”

Joe Scarborough, MSNBC host and former Republican member of Congress: “If the slings and arrows come today, and they will, it will only serve to diminish” those who criticize the president.

John Podhoretz, columnist for the New York Post: “If there is one thing we expect from occasions of national mourning, it is, at the very least, a modicum of gravity. That gravity was present in the president’s speech from first to last — especially in the pitch-perfect response to the disgusting national political debate over the past couple of days.”


2012: Conservatives throw in the towel. The Republicans^tm get a moderate onto the ticket.  Obama landslide.

332 I wonder what makes some groups wholly assimilate and others keep their ethnic identity almost to the point of seeing themselves as not American except by birth?

Posted by: curious at January 13, 2011 11:03 AM (p302b)

For Mexican-Americans, it's probably that the majority believe the U.S. terrority they move to rightfully belongs to Mexico. (Gallup poll had it at aroudn 56% of Mexicans believe SW America is rightfully Mexico's. This might be a small problem...)

333 Do people listen to what he says? Do they hear the WORDS that he says? I'm getting the impression that they attend to his speeches like they are a song or a piece of modern art.

Bingo! Yes, "artObama for art'Obama's sake".

334 that blood is long gone and diluted to the point of non-existence.

I'm 15/16th German, although I'm still trying to figure out which particular crappy areas they all escaped from (so far, mostly Hannover).

Eh. I resent that if I wear my "Deutsch-Amerikaner" button outside of Milwaukee I risk getting beaten up, but "La Raza" is able to spew vile anti-American sentiment every day and get celebrated because its members are just expressing their heritage.

335

Obama holds a free-of-charge campaign kickoff event on prime time TV and people start comparing him to Lincoln?

There are a lot of simple, stupid people in the world.

 

336 Retired Colonel and a Republican on Fox speaking. He is one of the people who actually tackled the shooter.

LOL, what will that do to the haters????

337 "2012: Conservatives throw in the towel. The Republicans^tm get a moderate onto the ticket.  Obama landslide.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 11:19 AM (/siG4)"

they are folding like a cheap suit (my dad says that) and the other day you guys were looking for leaders to step up....well Sarah Palin stepped up and has effectively ruined her political career...(Begala was about as vicious last night as I've ever heard him, like a mad dog against raw meat)

338 "I'm 15/16th German, although I'm still trying to figure out which particular crappy areas they all escaped from (so far, mostly Hannover)."

--- i wouldn't worry much about it.....the english have gotten over their germanic heritage, in fact, you never hear em speak of it.

339 Cassy Fiano's Tepid Air Green Room column should be put on the main page to offset Poppin' Fresh's naivete and Allahfrumdit's pandering to Frum and Meggie Mac

Kicking off the 2012 campaign on the shoulders of the dead

340 i have absolutely no more ties to the far away shit holes known as ireland and scotland. time to move on

I guess it depends on your individual circumstances.  My husband grew up in a household where his nona spoke Italian and his me-me spoke French.  He doesn't see himself as Italian or French-Canadian, but he does draw on those heritages. 

My grandfather came over from Ireland and my grampy down from Quebec.  So, again, that's pretty recent.  It just adds flavor to who I am and how I see things and provides context for family stories from when my parents grew up and met.

My mom told her future in-laws that she was 3/4s French and 1/4 Irish... and the Irish was the part she sat on.  (heh)

341 but, with you, I'm sure I'm going to learn a lot.

curious,
just asking if you knew  ... #315 freakin money making machines....and then they want you to take them seriously?

342

#330

Obama went full Messiah.  Never do that.  Especially when news stories proved you're lying before you lied. 

343 Posted by: str8 outta

The English. Yeah, like emulating those weasels in that shit hole should be something to aspire to.

344 (Begala was about as vicious last night as I've ever heard him, like a mad dog against raw meat)

Posted by: curious at January 13, 2011 11:22 AM (p302b)

I'm pretty sure Teh Cuda could whip The Forehead's pansy-ass without breaking a sweat.

345 "My grandfather came over from Ireland and my grampy down from Quebec.  So, again, that's pretty recent. "

---now see, THAT i can understand.

but you have to admit, far too many americans will easily drop their americaness for a simple grab at an identity. its near balkanization for some areas.

346 Yesterday's radio interview, Hannity hosted the Pawlenty preamble to Obama's address...can't we all just get along?

347 Posted by: maverick muse at January 13, 2011 11:24 AM (H+LJc)

I've stopped taking them seriously.  I feel as though beck is walking back his entire last year of programming.

I believe in capitalism, they should be able to make as much money as they possibly can, that's the American way.  But it is hard to balance the idea of bringing ideas forth for the good of the country, yada yada and then making oodles and oodles of money off of that.....I think this is the problem a lot of successful folks struggle with.

348 The Athenian Oath We will never bring disgrace on this our City by an act of dishonesty or cowardice. We will fight for the ideals and Sacred Things of the City both alone and with many. We will revere and obey the City's laws, and will do our best  to incite a like reverence and respect in those above us  who are prone to annul them or set them at naught. We will strive increasingly to quicken the public's sense of civic duty. Thus in all these ways we will transmit this City, not only not less, but greater and more beautiful than it was transmitted to us.

349 National Review* reaction round-up:

A+
By John J. Miller     

I didnÂ’t watch President ObamaÂ’s speech last night but I did read the transcript this morning. I think it may be the best speech heÂ’s ever given.


Tucson Tonight
By John J. Pitney Jr.

President Obama gave a fine speech reminding us that there is more to life than politics, and more to politics than self-interest.


The Non-Accusatory Case for Civility.
By Rich Lowry     

The pep-rally atmosphere was inappropriate and disconcerting, but President Obama turned in a magnificent performance. This was a non-accusatory, genuinely civil, case for civility, in stark contrast to what weÂ’ve read and heard over the last few days. He subtly rebuked the LeftÂ’s finger-pointing, and rose above the rancor of both sides, exactly as a president should. Tonight, he re-captured some of the tone of his famous 2004 convention speech. Well done.



The National Review: The New York Times on-deck circle.

350 John Weaver, former political adviser to Senator John McCain of Arizona, on Facebook: “The president had exactly the right tone and was pitch perfect for the nation last night. And, when juxtaposed against . . . well, you know who… ahem….”

Thank you John Weaver, for exposing yourself as one of the McCain people who were snitching to the MFM because the campaign didn't pick whom YOU wanted, so you sabotaged what was already a clusterfuck of a campaign

Any 2012 candidate who has Mark McKinnon, Steve Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, and now John Weaver on their campaign staff should be the equivalent of having a default on your credit report

351 Posted by: kbdabear at January 13, 2011 11:30 AM (vdfwz)

have you heard the palin rumor?  I heard it from a friend of a friend of a friend and it's going around like wild fire.  They are saying that one of her "key people" previously worked in the "mr sorrow organization" and they are saying it to somehow link her to said organization.  I've asked for proof....so far nothing substantive but whispers.

352 Joe Scarborough, MSNBC host and former Republican member of Congress, but always a backstabbing douchebag sockpuppet for the Left : “If the slings and arrows come today, and they will, it will only serve to diminish” those who criticize the president.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 11:19 AM

FIFY

353

If we were smart, we’d be saying: “It’s great that the president had the courage to end this ugly attempt by Democrats to indict conservative Americans for mass murder. He stated the obvious, clearly, that rhetoric played no role in this atrocious crime.

That's just ridiculous.  Why would you praise a guy who acted this way and pushed the left more and more to be the lunatics they are? 

Posted by: iknowtheleft at January 13, 2011 11:21 AM (G/MYk)

Because was forced to concede two MAJOR FUCKING POINTS and tried to  hide it a ton of liberal bullshit and YOU ARE LETTING HIM.

You're playing right into his hands. Your knee-jerk reaction to scream SUCKS at everything he does appeals to conservatives on the Internet and no one else. The media won't highlight Obama's MAJOR FUCKING CONCESSIONS so we have to. But we're not. We complaining because the liberal gun rights hater is saying what he's been saying for years about his wish for more gun control. As if that's news. 

354 Half of All States Now Suing to Stop Obamacare

And Begala looks like a fetus.

355 it's too late, i could give two shits what obama said in his carefully prepared speech. you have to be a withering imbecile if you think obama was going to point a finger at one side or the other.

the damage is already done, and the right is told everything is just dandy because obama had a good time reading off a teleprompter lol

meanwhile palin is smeared yet again, and dont think for a second this whole stupid scenario wont be brought up again as the election nears.

356 The National Review: The New York Times on-deck circle.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 11:30 AM (/siG4)

The National Review has been doing the heavy lifting for conservatives for decades. Long before it was considered cool to just spend the day banging out snarky web posts about how the heavy lifters aren't lifting adequately.

Rich Lowry: He subtly rebuked the LeftÂ’s finger-pointing

And you guys are going to labor mightily to make sure no one talks about this rebuke, lest it get in the way of Obama Sucks chants.

357 Any 2012 candidate who has ... John Weaver on their campaign staff should be the equivalent of having a default on your credit report

Posted by: kbdabear


Oh, it gets better:

Huntsman doesnÂ’t rule out presidential run

U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman Jr. says he will evaluate this spring whether to stay at his current job and doesnÂ’t rule out a potential presidential run.

“You know, I’m really focused on what we’re doing in our current position,” Huntsman tells Newsweek in a story posted Saturday morning. “But we won’t do this forever, and I think we may have one final run left in our bones.”

Huntsman, 50, UtahÂ’s former Republican governor who resigned in 2009 to take the post in the Obama administration, declined to say whether he was considering a bid for president in 2012, according to the story. But the comment only fuels speculation that he could mount a challenge to his current boss, President Barack Obama.

Huntsman was more circumspect in a recent sit-down with The Salt Lake Tribune, declining to talk at all about what he might do after serving abroad. In the void, however, speculation grows.

During a December trip to Washington, Huntsman met with former political advisers to discuss a potential bid, Newsweek reported, citing anonymous sources close to Huntsman.

The son of a billionaire, Huntsman carved a moderate path in GOP politics and exited the scene as so-called tea party activists began growing in power. In Beijing now for about 16 months, Huntsman has mostly steered clear of talking American politics.

But Huntsman has also kept in touch with political advisers, including John Weaver, the top strategist on Sen. John McCainÂ’s failed presidential bid. And Huntsman and his wife, Mary Kaye, purchased a home in a tony section of Washington this summer and relocated their belongings that had been in storage in Utah.

sltrib


So, an actual member of the Obama administration is thinking about running for the Republican nomination, and Weaver is lending a hand.

This is your official welcome to the one party state.

358 Is anyone here like a BFF to AP? I got a really cool like t-shirt from Obama's really cool speech but it sort of like ripped when I was putting it on.

I want another one but I don't like want AP to like get my new cell number. He's like such a dork

359 But the pride was really about how their particular community's traditions and qualities contributed to the entire area.  Everyone had their traditional trades or skills or cultural things that made the entire community better.

Y-not, that's true. Everyone had their heritage that they brought to the community potluck table to share. Regardless of your own genetics or self-identity, you are welcome to celebrate with them at their cultural festivals still.

But there are some that are burdened with stuck on stupid supremacist chips on their shoulders. Holding to ideological dogma wherein they own the monopoly on self-righteousness, they've mutated the American motto E pluribus unum to mean that all must conform to their own dogmas, or suffer the consequences of failing to offer proper PC tolerance for abusive domination and promotion of "special consideration."

Therein, Americans are no longer equal under the law, and citizenship is as null and void as national or state sovereignty.

360

On Drudge

Obama last night: "for the first time gabby opened her eyes!".

Gabby's doctor on Sunday: " she can open her eyes, respond to commands"

361

it's too late, i could give two shits what obama said in his carefully prepared speech. you have to be a withering imbecile if you think obama was going to point a finger at one side or the other.

I think you meant "I could NOT give two shits..."

Otherwise, you seem to actually care.

America was doomed when rappers began Tweeting.

362 "I think you meant "I could NOT give two shits..."

Otherwise, you seem to actually care.

America was doomed when rappers began Tweeting."

....sigh....fine, just insert n't at the end.

363 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at January 13, 2011 11:40 AM (/siG4)

Is this the same Huntsman who is Glenn Beck's bestest bestest friend and mentor.  Cause that Huntsman, per Beck, is thinking of a presidential run.  but, oddly, had no idea the guy was already in politics and already in the administration.  Beck conveniently, if it's the same guy, left that stuff out.  Makes you think huntsman is a brilliant fellow who founded a brilliant private company making uber money and someone who is not political.  If they are the same hutnsman then I'll never trust anything I hear Beck say again.

364 The National Review has been doing the heavy lifting for conservatives for decades.

Indeed,  the memory of those days is why I let my subscription of over 30 years lapse.

365

And you guys are going to labor mightily to make sure no one talks about this rebuke, lest it get in the way of Obama Sucks chants.

Posted by: CJ at January 13, 2011 11:39 AM

What rebuke? I'm pretty sure it went along with the MFM narrative that he was rebuking the conservative side for "finger-pointing", I didn't hear him telling the MFM to cool it at all.

Did he rebuke anyone sitting right there in his audience for BOOING Jan Brewer?

Nope, and that fact along with the t-shirts, the cheering, the "yes we can" atmosphere, and the venue of college students unconnected to the deaths says it all about who the "rebuke" was aimed at

Now go back to the blog run by the hearse chasing fat loser who shares your initials

366 Therein, Americans are no longer equal under the law, and citizenship is as null and void as national or state sovereignty.

Posted by: maverick muse at January 13, 2011 11:41 AM (H+LJc)

Do you agree or disagree that the territory of the U.S. Southwest rightfully belongs to Mexico?

Agree: 58 percent
Disagree: 28 percent
Not sure: 14 percent

http://tinyurl.com/64pq77l

 

 

367 Indeed,  the memory of those days is why I let my subscription of over 30 years lapse.

Posted by: toby928™ at January 13, 2011 11:47 AM (S5YRY)

That and reading it for free online was the motivation.

368 Posted by: CJ at January 13, 2011 11:49 AM (9KqcB)

OMG, their own country is a total mess and they think they should take back part of ours?

369 I've stopped taking them seriously.

curious,

I never took their cause to align my support for any of their presidential ambitions.

That wouldn't mean I'd forfeit my vote were one of those to win the potus lottery '12 ticket.

370 the mere fact he brought up the theme of political discourse in his speech was the problem.

a better speech would have avoided the issue altogether, and skipped over to the things he said about the victims.

371 309 Do people listen to what he says? Do they hear the WORDS that he says?   Posted by: dagny at January 13, 2011 10:52 AM (+Z6ve)   No, they don't; they hear how he says them.  They hear the cadence, the confidence, the assertiveness.  After Bush, it's music to people's ears.   Listen to the words he emphasizes.  Are they emphasized because they are important?  No, they're emphasized because the emphasis sounds good.

372 last night Batchelor ended his show with discussing the fact that the word "vitriol" was in the prez's speech.  he said it was a mistake and he would discuss this tonight.

I'm really curious as to what he has to say about it.

373 Karl Rove jumps from the Clue Train regarding the appointment of Bill Daley, thinks he's a "centrist"

374 That and reading it for free online was the motivation.

Dude.

375

What rebuke? I'm pretty sure it went along with the MFM narrative that he was rebuking the conservative side for "finger-pointing",

Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermathÂ….
Â….it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy,

"Simple explanations.." "Bad things happen..." "Lack of civility" was not what "caused this tragedy." As Lowery said, it is subtle. If we were smart, we would be unsubtlizing it.

Therefore, my backhanded "praise":

“It’s great that the president had the courage to end this ugly attempt by Democrats to indict conservative Americans for mass murder. He stated the obvious, clearly, that rhetoric played no role in this atrocious crime. That should end the disgraceful behavior witnessed this past week, and allow us to focus on doing what the voters sent us here to do in November – steer the federal government back toward its constitutionally mandated mission.”

 

Be tatical.

Now go back to the blog run by the hearse chasing fat loser who shares your initials

I was "CJ" long before he was. And I stopped going there the same time everyone else did.

 

 

 

376 Woman, I use the term loosely, steals fur coat and hides it in her underwear for....wait for it...THREE DAYS.

http://tinyurl.com/6bfvpzm

377 OMG, their own country is a total mess and they think they should take back part of ours?

Posted by: curious at January 13, 2011 11:50 AM (p302b)

No one wants to acknowledge that immigration today is fundamentally different from years past due to mere history and geography. Yesteryear's immigrants so physically so far removed from the  old country that they had to assimilate to survive. Not Mexicans.

Previous immigrants never claimed that U.S. territories actually belonged, rightfully, to their home country. Mexicans do. It's the elephant in the room.

378 Seriously though, as much as I like Jonah Goldberg as a writer, he is a bad fit for  a serious conservative magazine.  His "hipness" has tainted the brand.

379 CJ

Mexico SOLD Arizona to the USA when Mexico wanted Americans to build a railroad through the new territory from the Gadsden Purchase. And lest morons argue, at the conclusions of previous wars between governments over former Spanish territorial conquests, the specific treaties between Mexico and the USA ensured the property rights of Mexicans to be honored on transferred to US territory, sold by Mexico and PURCHASED by the USA.

Is Mexico prepared to purchase California? Arizona, New Mexico? Is Mexico so haughty as to demand that Texas be sold by the USA to Mexico?

380

372--The National Review has been doing the heavy lifting for conservatives for decades.

Horsefeathers.  They are GOP hacks who've made a pseudo-intellectual parlor game of conservatism, for their own amusement.

381 Yesteryear's immigrants so physically so far removed from the  old country that they had to assimilate to survive. Not Mexicans.

The latest round of Mexicans are not immigrants, they have no intention of assimilating. They are migrants.

Previous immigrants never claimed that U.S. territories actually belonged, rightfully, to their home country. Mexicans do. It's the elephant in the room.

Most Mexicans don't or at least don't think of it as a big deal. You are only hearing the vocal anarchists that the MFM likes to put up.

Mexico actually started that war as a political thing to takes the people's minds off the government at the time. That is the elephant that is in the room that is never mentioned.

Still we paid them for territory at the end when we didn't have to. If we had a real media in this country now most people would know that.

382 i dont think CJ was agreeing with those nationalist mexicans...was just talking about their mindset was all.

383 Mexico SOLD Arizona to the USA when Mexico wanted Americans to build a railroad through the new territory from the Gadsden Purchase.

True fact, the original offer was for 250k square miles.  Santa Anna wasn't thrilled at the idea of selling a third of what was left of Mexico but he needed the money badly.  Congress cut that to 95k or thereabouts to prevent the southern slave states from having access to the Pacific.

384 Posted by: toby928™ 12:07

That's correct.

Arizona would have had its own port on the California Gulf.

385 He stated the obvious, clearly, that rhetoric played no role in this atrocious crime. That should end the disgraceful behavior witnessed this past week,

That should end it but it didn't, the MFM is still rolling along with the Palin hate and anyone else who doesn't throw rose petals in the paths of elitist leftists.

 and allow us to focus on doing what the voters sent us here to do in November – steer the federal government back toward its constitutionally mandated mission.”

By hysterical calls by Congress to ignore the Constitution and implement speech codes and gun control measures, along with big new mental health programs

Don't worry Charlie Brown, THIS time Lucy won't pull away that football

386 Gadsden Purchase

...and with that AZ port, the US government would have had much easier facilitation governing the early wild territory left vulnerable to marauders,  whether Confederate, Apache, or Mexican bandit.  As it was, even the US Army abandoned its critical territorial supervision for a time.

...and without that AZ port, the US government has no reason to guard  the CA Gulf at least with a military/border presence now.

387 GHWBush boasted he'd completed the Republican Party's reformation into the "compassionate" progressive neoconservative party for big authoritarian governance and spending above what tax levels support so long as they're top dogs.

The Tea Party movement is a renaissance of the classical Libertarian-Republican Party that Goldwater represented. These constitutional conservatives do support national defense, but they are against PC and against the futility of "nation building" out of a misdirected counterproductive sense of righteous compassion.

Conveniently, RFKjr. again rehashes LBJ lies to smear the Goldwater styled conservative Americans, just in time to again kiss Obama's ass while farting in Palin's specific direction.

And the pseudo-moderate "centrist" progressives, Bush Republicans whose platform is a matter of sheer political correct convenience, amass  unconstitutional federal authoritarianism.

Jonah Goldberg is an intelligent and clever author. His description of fascism delivered with a smile to Americans applies as much to himself as any progressive revisionist.

Clarify the distinction between common ground and compromise.

388

Horsefeathers.  They are GOP hacks who've made a pseudo-intellectual parlor game of conservatism, for their own amusement.

Posted by: right field bleachers at January 13, 2011 12:05 PM (K/USr)

This; they always practiced their own WFB brand of conservatism that imo was a bit too rooted in snotty attention to knowing "the right people'.  Don't get me wrong, WFB was a good guy but there was obviously a cult of personality attached to it and his erudite vocabulary was used a bit too much to produce copious jizz fountains from the acolytes.  Other than The Long View, which was (is?) hilarious, I didn't enjoy very much in the dead tree version of NR.

389 This is just short of awesome. PETA forced a Pet Shop in California to close. It's being replaced by a gun store.

390 In my parents' generation (dad is in his late 70s now), the mill towns in the northeast were divided into ethnic neighborhoods, but not really divided as such.

I remember when they shot the mayor in our little small town right behind the courthouse. They were running gambling in the Elks lodge. It was moonshine that brought them, dirty bootleggers, but once there La Cosa Nostra decided it would try taking over the mining and unionizing everything in sight. Italians even took credit for inventing pepperoni rolls, which have been around since the Romans, though I doubt that's what they meant. They kept together for a few reasons, but mostly they were all related and up to no good.

391 OK, seriously, New Jersey?  Licenses for bicycles?  Seriously?

392 I'm having a lot of fun posting comments about "gringos" over at the NPR site. Could use some help, though. Please pop over and roast Daisy Hernandez. http://tinyurl.com/65rhmmt

393 I'm listening to the ABC news break in the Rush show. Some king penguins have a 44% lower survival rate, and they mate less. Global warming? No, due to scientist's banding them, to learn about them and protect them from global warming.

394 OK, seriously, New Jersey?  Licenses for bicycles?  Seriously?

Posted by: AoSHQ's DarkLord© at January 13, 2011 01:50 PM (GBXon

My old hometown did the same thing years ago. It is just another tax. They finally rescinded it after stopping piles of kids who refused to pay the fine or the tax.

395 zerohedge: ... during this time market has not closed below the 10 DMA once during the past 30 days. And as Sentiment Trader notes, "this has never happened before, in 82 years of history." They're talking about "quantitative easing" and the daily moving average of the S&P 500. Anyways, unprecedented!

396 That headline's screwy.  Peter Fonda ain't dead.  He found a body in a car, but - and I confess this is only preliminary - it was not his own.

397 Uh, Peter Fonda found a dead body, (he's not dead), and no, he did not have sex with it.   (but he wanted to)

398

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