1

Fox's take on last night's CNN shit

They seem to have an issue with Perry talking out of turn. Gee, last week he was asleep, now heÂ’s talking out of turn. This is why you canÂ’t ever win with news assholes who are against you.  You just have to ignore them. I didnÂ’t watch the crap this time. IÂ’m sure the Romneybots will say he won, the Perry people will say he won, and the Cain people will say he won.

F&F is really a joke on this this morning. They love the shit out of the controversy and fight, they bashed Perry for “dirty” attacks and Gretchen thought bringing up hiring illegals for lawn work was a low blow because it was covered in 2008.  

Yes, the MFM got what they want; a two-fer, they got a lot of ratings boost for these shit debates and the Republicans trashed themselves right and left. The fact is that the candidates need to issue a demand for the remainder of these worthless debates. First get rid of the last tier of candidates. Knock it down to Romney, Perry, Cain, Newt (maybe) and get rid of the rest. Second change the rules such that ONLY issues are covered and not BS gotcha crap like racist rocks and allow each candidate to discuss why their plan for the issue is best.

If they do not agree to these rules then the top tier of candidates need to bow out and let the 1% also-rans debate.

2

All of you Eeyores who are counting Perry out need to take note of this:

Romney has launched an anti-Perry site. He isnÂ’t counting him out.

3

Architect of CainÂ’s 9-9-9 plan wants him to drop national sales tax

This plan is killing him with conservatives.

4

Michele Bachmann picks up coveted Wayne Newton endorsement

IÂ’m sure she will rocket back up to the top of the polls.

5

I don't want to hear another word about baby boomers bankrupting SS

The outrage of the year:

The California man who lives part of his life as an “adult baby” and collects Social Security disability payments says the federal agency has cleared him of wrongdoing and will continue sending checks.

This is blatant abuse and fraud but the gov says no and will keep sending him your money.

6 And that's it for today. Not much out there except the debates.

For those of you not at work it looks like today is Elvis day at TCM. One of his best is on now, Follow That Dream.

7

Posted by: Vic at October 19, 2011 06:48 AM (YdQQY)

Vic, Perry did much better, and called Romney a liar to his face a couple of times. Romney's slick armor started to show cracks. All in all, good show.

8 Vic, Perry did much better, and called Romney a liar to his face a couple of times. Romney's slick armor started to show cracks. All in all, good show.

Yeah, I'm sure he did, but did the Republicans win?

9 @3: that's great, but he also needs yo drop the 9% tax on gross business income. It will instantly devastate compnaies on the edge and spike unemployment. Not to mention make startups impossible.

10 Yeah, I'm sure he did, but did the Republicans win?

Posted by: Vic at October 19, 2011 06:53 AM (YdQQY)

Hard to say, but it wasn't a bad night for conservatives at least. Oh, and Newt has finally gone after a fellow candidate, Mitt. That's gotta mean something.

11 I'm not sure Perry having a manic Tardisil moment was really "doing better." Can he just give quiet debate competence and good syntax, instead?

12 Can he just give quiet debate competence and good syntax, instead?

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 19, 2011 06:58 AM (niZvt)

The problem with Perry and quiet competence is that if he's quiet, he's probably nodding off.

13 Like I said, what needs to happen is all the marginal candidates need to drop out of the debates and each candidate describe why they are better at the issues.

14 Can he just give quiet debate competence and good syntax, instead? Posted by: CoolCzech
...........
It was very apparent his handlers told him to go out there and be aggressive.

He was!

I'm sure they are working out how to fine tune that for the future...

15 Morning Joe and crew seem to think Romney hit it out of the park last night. I'm beginning to think that these guys don't even watch these things...

16 The marginal candidates have to stay in long enough to be considered for VP. Then they can either run as a non-marginal the next time or make a bazillion dollars as a consultant.

17 Morning Joe and crew seem to think Romney hit it out of the park last night. I'm beginning to think that these guys don't even watch these things...

They are just like the Washington Post, all Romney all the time, until the primaries are over.

18 Real Men of Genius-OWS Edition

19 Drudge has Palin saying Newt won the debate. Also I don't understand his "republicans gone wild" headline. Then I made the mistake of clicking on one of his links and ending up at Politico. Now I need another shower and I saw some of the comments. Too bad you can't exterminate stupid.

20 MSNBC lining up behind Romney/Cain 2012?

21

Didn't watch. I'm sick of the candidates telling me how bad the other guy is. JUST TELL ME YOUR POSITION! These are no longer "debates" about the issues rather a contest who can get the best sound bite by motherfuckin somone else. The only one, and I say this with a cringe, that hasn't jumped on the "prove how good I am by showing how bad my opponant is" has been the Newt.

22

My high school reunion is this weekend so yesterday I was on the phone with a friend from my class who I like but who I have little contact with so that we could arrange the weekend. She told me that she "hated Perry. Evangelicals should be barred from the White House" and that she had told her pediatrician no gardisil--it causes too many cases of autism in teenage girls.

 

23 She told me that she "hated Perry. Evangelicals should be barred from the White House" and that she had told her pediatrician no gardisil--it causes too many cases of autism in teenage girls.

The MFM has been hard at work and the slow people believe every word they say.

24 but he also needs yo drop the 9% tax on gross business income. It will instantly devastate compnaies on the edge and spike unemployment. Not to mention make startups impossible.

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 19, 2011 06:55 AM (niZvt)

 

Good lord - whoever came up with the idea of taxing gross income must have been on crack.  There are a lot of small businesses that are operating on what are already absurdly thin margins.  That would kill them off.  Taxing profits is fine, but taxing cash flow seems pretty absurd.

25 They are just like the Washington Post, all Romney all the time, until the primaries are over.

When the voters have spoken and  the blood is on the floor they will say we are throwing a tantrum.

26 For some reason, I only had an audio portion of the live stream whilst blogging with you all. Anyway, from what I HEARD: Newt : won this thing hands down. He was clear, cogent, calm and able to articulate the conservative message with ease. Perry: at least didnÂ’t sound narcoleptic and so stays alive. He still canÂ’t seem to string his thoughts together into a clear statement. Cain: was okay, delivered a few good blows and overall defended his plan, though that is not going over well, especially the VAT. Sounded real. Still has a ways to go on national security. Bachmann: showed flashes of relative sanity a couple of times but then degenerated in whining. Santorum: a decent but was really irritating. Ron Paul: Should choose Nader or Kiucinich and head back to the mother ship (a 500 foot long atomic-powered Corvair from Andromeda, powered by 6 silver dimes and Jooish gold) RINOmney was the biggest loser. He was stuttering, flustered and did not defend Romeny/Obamacare AT ALL. And he attacked the Heritage Foundation????? Three man race: Cain, Perry, and Mitens. But Newt actually sounded far and away the most presidential. Unless major things shake up the other 3 going forward, I donÂ’t think he really has a chance but I love the fact that he is in the debates to say what he says. Heartbreaking.

27 Taxing profits is fine, but taxing cash flow seems pretty absurd.

Posted by: Reactionary at October 19, 2011 07:15 AM (xUM1Q)

Yeah, some businesses only have a profit margin of 10%, if you put a 9% tax on them it wouldn't take long. 

28 MSNBC lining up behind Romney/Cain 2012?

Actually Trebek, they're all lining up for your mother.

29 Cain's 9-9-9 will kill

30 Didn't see the debate, but the usual suspects declared a Mitt victory. Mitt is inevitable just like he was in 2007.

31

The MFM has been hard at work and the slow people believe every word they say.

I told her that if black communist liberation theologians are allowed in the White House then even Zorastrians should be. I also said that I would vote for a feces covered crack whore. I suggested that "hating" Perry when we have the reincarnation of a retarded Stalin in the White House didn't make a lot of sense.

32 Cripes, why complain about CNN doing gotcha debates when these candidates do it to themselves. Be aggressive? Yes. Focus it at Obama. The one that most effectively does wins.

33

And he attacked the Heritage Foundation?????

What? Who advises these people?

34 30 Didn't see the debate, but the usual suspects declared a Mitt victory. Mitt is inevitable just like he was in 2007. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 19, 2011 07:19 AM (wnMsw) My gut tells me that we will not be the mindless lemmings the RINO Establishment/MFM complex want us to be. I don't think we will fall for a McCain redux. We had better not.

35 A legitimate gripe...

Wall Street to Dems: you can't have it both ways

Wall Street bets on both sides in order to win either way. Only the investment industry can have their cake and eat it, too. Let's play monopoly.

36 I suggested that "hating" Perry when we have the reincarnation of a retarded Stalin in the White House didn't make a lot of sense.

Retarded Stalin would be a lot stronger on national security than SCOAMF.

37 She told me that she "hated Perry. Evangelicals should be barred from the White House" and that she had told her pediatrician no gardisil--it causes too many cases of autism in teenage girls.

Posted by: dagny at October 19, 2011 07:13 AM (qX6ua)

 

Did you laugh at her absurd propositions?  Sometimes I feel certain that most people are about 2 inches away from believing in witchcraft again.  These nonsensical beliefs need to be mercilessly ridiculed.  The MSM could "inform" the average American that the myth of spontaneous generation was "science" and they'd believe it.

 

 

38 I don't think we will fall for a McCain redux.  We had better not.


You say that like anyone outside the states that hold the first five or six primaries have a choice.

39 33 And he attacked the Heritage Foundation????? What? Who advises these people? Posted by: dagny at October 19, 2011 07:21 AM (qX6ua) You miss the best stuff when you don't live blog with us.

40 38 I don't think we will fall for a McCain redux. We had better not. You say that like anyone outside the states that hold the first five or six primaries have a choice. Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 19, 2011 07:22 AM (lGVMg) Well, unless the ballot reads: a) Mitt Romney b) Miit Tromney c) Mittrom Ney d) M. Romney I should think the people do have a choice. What am I missing?

41 The Today show shitheads are going crazy over WILD ANIMALS LOOSE IN OHIO!!!  Apparently some guy who had a lot of tigers, grizzlies and other large carnivores around Zanesville was found dead and all the cages had been opened (they're strangely uncurious over just WTF happened here because it might implicate some of their PETA pals although really anything could've happened based on what isn't being said).  They interviewed some fat tub of shit sheriff's deputy who was obviously irritated from being kept from his morning dozen donuts since he was bitching about how the state legislature needs to pass a law to keep this from happening.  Earth to Barney Fife pre-weight watchers:  Your job is to enforce the law, Buford; not to say what it should be.  The guy had permits for all the animals.  Some of the local school boards are shut down so the teachers can all campaign outside of the school against Issue 2 instead of threatening the kids with how miserable they'll make their lives if it passes; and promulgating lefty propaganda about how wonderful the SCofMF is.

42 39 Sorry, it was my anniversary. I had, uh, stuff to do.

43 Retarded Stalin would be a lot stronger on national security than SCOAMF.

Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 19, 2011 07:21 AM (lGVMg)

Plus he'd have a more competent Beria than Stedman Shabazz Holder.

44 What am I missing?

In 2008 everyone but McCain dropped out by March.

Oh, sure, there were 10 names on the ballot in WI, but whatever oval you marked, all the delegates were already going to McCain.

45

Yeah, some businesses only have a profit margin of 10%, if you put a 9% tax on them it wouldn't take long.

Posted by: Vic at October 19, 2011 07:17 AM (YdQQY)

 

Indeed.  And really it's worse.  For example, the "average" injection molding plant in the US was running on a 0.6% EBIT last year.  That's even worse return on investment than a CD.  In the auto industry in general the pricing pressures on the supply base are brutal, and the only suppliers making fat profit are the ones with proprietary technology or clear market dominance for their product type.

46 Posted by: dagny at October 19, 2011 07:19 AM (qX6ua Great response to a retarded statement.

47 LOL. #3

Cain's economist adviser Stephan Moore has concluded that the American people don't want (his idea) a national sales tax. So turn that upside down into a payroll tax.

From jobs: income tax and payroll tax. Your employer is fined 9% by the federal government for your employment? Jobs, jobs, jobs...pfft.

48 Retarded Stalin would invest bazillions in "green energy" in an attempt to starve the Ukraine.

49 Should be a fun reunion, dagny!

50 Morning all. Perry must have done better last night because the headlines are not counting him out.

51 Oh, sure, there were 10 names on the ballot in WI, but whatever oval you marked, all the delegates were already going to McCain.
Posted by: HeatherRadish
.........
I really wish they would pick one day and have the whole nation vote on that day.  The current setup is stupid.

52 4

Michele Bachmann picks up coveted Wayne Newton endorsement

IÂ’m sure she will rocket back up to the top of the polls.

Sad thing is, she's starting to look like she has the fewest bad points in this race. 

53 Bachman 2012!  She's conservative and only moderately crazy (maybe like a fox?) !!!11!@

54 I really wish they would pick one day and have the whole nation vote on that day.  The current setup is stupid.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 19, 2011 07:34 AM (UTq/I)

You've hit on one of my pet peeves.  It doesn't even have to be one day but the states that go early should subsequently move to the back of the fucking line.  The Repukes have really been gutless in dealing with this (and of course I expect nothing principled from the commiecrats).  And I don't give a flying fuck if the hayseeds of Iowa have it in their state constitution that they get to go first.  Fuck that shit; the rest of the country should wipe their asses with their state constitution and send it to those cocksucking hicks.  The same with those New Hampshire fuckheads.

55 Cain's economist adviser Stephan Moore

Posted by: didn't take long at October 19, 2011 07:28 AM (lpWVn)

Stephen Moore?  The little jittery guy that used to work for Art Laffer and come out on Fox News and CNN?

56 Bachmann pretty much had the conservative base in her pocket and then went off the deep end with the Gardacil shit.

If that has been the only crazy thing it wouldn't have been so bad by itself, but she had had a history of crazy stuff and that was the topper.

It would take a miracle for her to return to a competitive position.

57 So, I guess Vic is fine with the gov't injecting his kids with medications without his permission?

And, he's still searching for the "real" conservative?

58 Dear Lord, the next debate is scheduled for Nov 9. How many do we need?

59 A true dichotomy:

conservative and crazy:liberal and sane

60 I really wish they would pick one day and have the whole nation vote on that day.  The current setup is stupid.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 19, 2011 07:34 AM (UTq/I)

I think they should go back to smoke filled rooms and get off of my TV.

If it was good enough for Abe Lincoln...

61 So what will it be, the iPhone 4S or the new Droid Razr?

Don't wanna talk about that batshit debate, nor the let-loose animals.

62 59 A true dichotomy:

conservative and crazy:liberal and sane



and ironic, in that not actually ironic irony way...

63 Posted by: HeatherRadish at October 19, 2011 07:27 AM (lGVMg) Yeah, I see your point. The Republican establishment sucks.

64 Eating like 1%er's.

...So last night, for example, while your family of four may have been forced to resort to Hamburger Helper, thanks to SmithÂ’s culinary magic, hordes of Occupy Wall Street protesters instead feasted on organic chicken, spaghetti Bolognese, roasted beet and sheepÂ’s milk-cheese salad and wild heirloom potatoes..

via JWF.

65 If we are ultimately going to have to hold our noses and forgive Mitt for RomneyCare and flipflopping on every social issue under the Sun; or Perry for once being a Dem, Gardisil and and alien college tuition; or Cain  for being an unsophisticated, lisping tax fiend; then why can we not forgive Newt's marital transgressions and that stupid commercial with Nancy Pelosi?

Dude is the only intelligent, qualified candidate in the race.

66 g-d forbid it be close, we need to blow their doors off.

67 No shit ... fraud is part of the left's core constituency.

68 13 year old daughter said, "Michelle Obama is ruining our lunch." When the idiot Flotus can reach into a community and get rid of food that kids have been eating for years, like white bread, and tater tots, it's time to take up arms. And I'm not talking about Michelle's fake-toned flabby arms either.

69 I have a question.  Every time there is a big event in New York (New Year's Eve, World Series, UN opening,  etc.) the place is crawling with security and people are wanded,  prohibited from brining in backpacks,  etc.

So,  what type of security is OWS getting?  As far as I can tell people are just showing up and pitching tents and hanging around without any sort of screening.  It seems to me that a terrorist could show up in the middle of these people pretty easily and detonate an explosive device, causing all sorts of death and destruction.

Can anyone tell me if they have been screening these people and I just missed it?  Or is the situation the way I portrayed it?

70 Perry the Dunce. Sickening.

Good enough reason for his supporter to have boycotted last night's debate. Palin shredded him with Greta afterwards without naming names, empty promises of a "plan" that has yet to materialize, "by next week."

I doubt Mitt "feels" threatened by Perry. It's lust for the war chest as Romney's anti-Perry campaign is designed to convert Perry's big-money supporters to the "electable" candidate.

Lingual inhibition doesn't come close to describing Perry's problem. He's an idiot. Texas taxpayers are paying to be shamed by Perry on the national stage. Perry is NOT advancing Texas' cause, so his only excuse for spending Texas state taxes to cover his book tour expenses and potus campaign security doesn't meet the bottom line.

What Perry exposes is the Texas political system that elects front men run by big money power brokers. He had the right physical looks to get him as far as he got. But without the analytical brain, we'd be sending just another strawman to Washington on a platform meant to attract buyers, regardless of "real" agenda. WHERE'S THE BEEF?! Sure, he has a very big fluffy bun.

ANY GOP President except Mitt Romney will likely promote energy independence. It doesn't take Perry to get an administration to promote the American petro/gas industry. And given Perry's stupidity, he'd be the last person I'd count on to actually implement FROM WASHINGTONIANS the petroleum/gas energy independence agenda. Even if the petro/gas lobbyists bought American energy independence from Congress, with Perry I'd expect massive corruption.

71 then why can we not forgive Newt's marital transgressions and that stupid commercial with Nancy Pelosi?


That stuff is easy.  The clown circus of his "contract on America" is unforgivable.  A bunch of shitty do nothings while he helped deliver the country into ruin is what I hold against him.  Now and forever.

72 Can anyone tell me if they have been screening these people and I just missed it?

As far as I've read, you're right. It takes flashing kids to get "screened" from OCCUPY.

73 It seems to me that a terrorist could show up in the middle of these people pretty easily and detonate an explosive device, causing all sorts of death and destruction.

Can anyone tell me if they have been screening these people and I just missed it?  Or is the situation the way I portrayed it?

Posted by: Miss Marple at October 19, 2011 08:02 AM (GoIUi)

why would they hurt their supporters?

far as i know they are blame israel first crowd.

74 'the beating (debates) will continue till morale improves'

75 Fuck Romney using "states rights" to lay the entire burden of border patrol on border states to fund and execute. He's one convoluted problem solver, using that rationale to cover four bases: illegal immigration, border security, states rights, and a federal spending cut.

Mitt's one fast talker who exposed another "promise them anything, just get their votes" performance.

He sounds like he's amped on Rx political base. Just Say No.

76 I have tried to watch some of these debates but I don't last long. I hate to see them attacking each other.
I want to vote for the strongest conservative not the strongest debater.
From what I have seen, Newt comes out on top but does anyone really think he has a chance to be president?
I can't wait till we actually start voting in primaries. All this debate crap will be forgotten.
I will be voting for the nominee, whoever it is running against JEF.

77 @72 Perry ruffled the feathers a bit, I see.

78 54 Having lived among the New Hampshire fuckheads, they are the last people I would want picking a candidate. It is the home of  inbreeding and personality disorders.

79 The clown circus of his "contract on America" is unforgivable.  A bunch of shitty do nothings while he helped deliver the country into ruin is what I hold against him.  Now and forever.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at October 19, 2011 08:03 AM (mue7s)

Is this a serious statement?  The contract with America may have inadvertently caused a few Repuke shitheads, like the Mike Castles of the world, to get elected instead of some worthless commiecrat; but as an election strategy it was pretty fucking brilliant.  It gave Republicans the run of Congress for the first time I could remember.  Plus it forced Slick to move to the center once his and Muffer's lefty agenda was repudiated, and ultimately led to him signing welfare reform.  What specific bit of legislation that harmed the country do you blame on the contract with America?

80 If you ask me,  the person who gained the most from this last night was Cain.  He didn't lose his cool and managed to remain likable.

All of the attacks on his plan gave him the opportunity to promote his web site.

Perry did better,  but while Romney an get away with a smooth interruption,  Perry fell more in the Rick Santorum mode,  which makes people uncomfortable.

However,  he did seem stronger and he did manage to make Romney look defensive and nervous.  That is a plus.

Long way to go.  I am trying very hard not to dislike anyone on the stage because one of them will be the nominee.  And we have to back that nominee like he/she is the neatest thing since sliced bread. 

The purpose of these debates (as far as the press is concerned) is to get us all mopey and wishing someone else would show up.  It is not going to happen, folks.  Take a deep breath, stand up straight,  and recognize we have to win with these people,  who,  after all,  at least stepped forward.  Daniels and Palin and Christie and Ryan are all sitting it out.  These are the people we have,  so let's not make them into enemies.

81 I have long advocated redoing the way we run Primaries but as long as the Rockefeller wing controls the Party it will never happen.

I would advocate a system in which States that had the highest percentage of Republican votes in the previous Presidential election got to go first. I would do that with a few weeks separating each primary and one State at a time through the first 5.

After that I would go with 2 or 3 at a time, but enough so that the primaries are over  at least 6 months before Nov 2. In addition, I would assign some cut-off level for fringe candidate based on percentage of the primary votes. Since we are going in the order of States with the highest percentage Republican vote it would follow that those State would have a good idea what the base wants. I would make it automatic cut-off for candidate who could not get more than 1 or 2 points in those initial primaries.

When it gets down to the multiple States I would eliminate ones less than 5% until we get down to the last 2.

82 Posted by: willow at October 19, 2011 08:09 AM

OCCUPY participants represent various contingencies.

Since astroturf ringleaders paid by Marxist foundations are leading mostly ignorant participants by the nose, go figure that class warfare includes antisemitism. Group think requires no effort in a mob.

But Chris Hedges has nothing to do with any anti-Israel sentiment. I linked his interview (youtube series) given the first week of protest.

Those who organized to protest the Federal Reserve are neither anti-capitalists nor based on antisemitism or anti-Israel. Their priority is for the Dollar's value.

Personally, I'd never situate my own protest against the corrupt Federal Reserve alongside a Marxist class warfare protest, unless the other side of my t-shirt or sign protested the Marxist protesters while primarily protesting the globalist investment industry bail-out and devaluation of the Dollar by the Fed, all at US taxpayer expense while unemployment rises along with municipal/State, business and mortgage bankruptcies.

There are plenty of good reasons to be protesting. But fgs, "Location. Location. Location!" Get in front of the Federal Reserve, the White House, and Congress and pinpoint the graft. Clean our own house and financially stabilize our own nation FIRST. At present, we're riding the sucker slide into DOOM.

83

Is this a serious statement?  The contract with America may have inadvertently caused a few Repuke shitheads, like the Mike Castles of the world, to get elected instead of some worthless commiecrat; but as an election strategy it was pretty fucking brilliant.  It gave Republicans the run of Congress for the first time I could remember.  Plus it forced Slick to move to the center once his and Muffer's lefty agenda was repudiated, and ultimately led to him signing welfare reform.  What specific bit of legislation that harmed the country do you blame on the contract with America?

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 19, 2011 08:34 AM (s3Y/j)

Quite serious.  It moved legislation on the democrat side that would never have made it through on its own in exchange for a shit sandwich.  That run of Congress was a great for US, huh?...     Show me where the country actually gained in all of that. 

84 oops.  WAY too knowledgeable for ol' Charlie there...

85 Romney won the debate. Romney is the most accomplished, qualified and reasonable candidate to lead our conuntry into the future.

86 Good morning.  'Saw 5 sec clip of the debate on the news this am.  What was Mitt dong laying hands on Rick?

87 >>They are just like the Washington Post, all Romney all the time

Try watching the local news in UT.  Mitt PLUS we have to pretend Jon Jr is a real candidate.

I see the feds are going after charitable giving deductions. Terrible idea.

88 Romney was out of like for touching Perry. I may vote for Obama due to my white guilt and compassion for black people. I am not racist!

89 So the liberals are raising social security before the elections...hmmmmm

90 It moved legislation on the democrat side that would never have made it through on its own in exchange for a shit sandwich.  That run of Congress was a great for US, huh?...     Show me where the country actually gained in all of that. 

Posted by: Charlie Gibson at October 19, 2011 08:48 AM (mue7s)

What legislation are you talking about?  I mentioned welfare reform; with Clinton being impeached in the House there wasn't that much legislation that passed at all.  And that Congress was a lot fucking better than that pile of shit that Rove was the architect for in 2006.

91 We loved Mitt's performance last night.

92 Reminder about Romney: He lost to John McCain.

93
Public schools, y'all:

A Fontana school board member admitted she lied on her campaign application about her marriage to a convicted murdered, a newspaper reported Monday.

The San Bernardino Sun reported that Fontana Unified School District vice chairwoman Leticia Garcia met her husband, Jason Garcia, in 2001 while he was incarcerated and she was working on a project for a criminology class. They married in 2002.

But in her application to run for school board last year, Leticia Garcia wrote that the marriage had ended in divorce. She told the Sun she felt it was time to come clean after her husband was released from prison Sept. 30.

Jason Garcia was convicted of murder in a gang-related shooting when he was 16. He pursued an education behind bars, eventually earning a bachelor's degree in social sciences from San Jose State University.

The Sun also reported that Leticia Garcia had been romantically involved with San Bernardino attorney and county Democratic party leader Tim Prince while her husband was in prison.

Garcia, elected last November, said she still plans to serve out her four-year term.

LATimes

94 Dude is the only intelligent, qualified candidate in the race.

Ignoring Ron Paul's contributions to the Republican Presidential Platform, Palin agreed that Newt was the adult in the juvenile debate playground.

I've defended Newt's legitimacy to campaign for those obvious contributions to the Republican marketable intelligence that he commands.

As to being the "only" intelligent, qualified candidate, he hasn't presented in debate his financial recovery details; rather, he references voters to his website to study his latest Contract With America.

No doubt, Newt has the lobbying connections to pass his agenda given Republican near majorities in Congress. And if "electable" matters, then go with the proven "electable" Republican Leader.

But don't expect smaller government, lower taxes or a valuable Dollar from Newt any more than you'd get from quicky Mitt or Cain.

Michele Bachmann is a Tea Party mother of all frauds. As the neoconservative Republican establishment owns the party of slaves, the only vote to logically reassert fiscal and constitutional conservatism in government remains Ron Paul's.

Energy independence is the Republican Party maxim. So choose your poison wisely. Because the one thing that America REQUIRES in order to succeed is a valuable Dollar. The entire economy is contingent upon the Dollar. And which candidate is prepared to back the Dollar value with commodities (oil/gas, agriculture, et al.) with the least impositions from government bureaucrats? And which candidate is prepared to provide better national security without the TSA infractions on our liberty, for instance? Which candidate actually presents proposed CUTS in federal spending for review? If Congress/American chooses to borrow money from China in order to fund/bribe allies, the potus veto can be overridden. 

I don't expect most people to exercise logic beyond what grandiose conditions we've come to expect from government in our socialized America. But that doesn't mean logic deserves ridicule.

I maintain that the US Constitution is centrist. Without our Constitution, there is no cultural "American" fabric consisting of so varied populations.

There is no such thing as a political messiah. But there is the US Constitution. And at the moment, US citizens are denied our civil rights by our corrupted government. And that corrupted government is hell bent on our economic ruin. At that point, our military machine succumbs to the highest bidder. The US Military already serves the will of NATO and the globalist UN that most assuredly do NOT represent the best interest of the USA as the Constitutional Republic.

The idea that a US Military invasion of Iran would "solve" any problem is FALSE. Yet that is the war drum cadence of the bipartisan neoconservative percussion ensemble that includes the neoconservative "Tea Party" House Caucus Chair. Rather, allow the Iranian people to cleanse their own government as they will. Recognize our unbroken US Military interventionist record in Muslim countries: all enabled the Islamic theocracies we installed to annihilate minority populations. Not "compassionate". Only "smart" if that's the point. More Islamofascism, please.

And Santorum's "I'll go to war with China" neoconservative military interventionism solves all problems illustrates mental derangement since that "war" is an economic war which neoconservatism only makes worse with TARP bail-outs at middle and lower "class" tax burden expense, pushing Americans out of work and home.

George W. Bush administrative legacy (DHS/TSA, TARP, autonomous Sec./Treasury Paulson crony capitalist fraud with the Federal Reserve insider trading Greenspan deals) cured me of neoconservative support. /Shit, nomen est omen: "greenspan" inflating economic bubbles.

I'll go read Newt's website. Being a political calculator, he may have hijacked the best promises per other candidates to offer voters a deal we can't refuse. Paul cast aside, Newt has the experience to swing political alliance. Voters know he lacks the credibility factor when it comes to cutting corruption. But compared to Obama, Newt looks as messianic as anyone-but-Obama.

95 Well you're just a ray of sunshine this morning, maverick.

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This new learning amazes me, Sir didn't take long. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.

97 Did anyone else pick up on Romney's core objection to his landscaper employing illegals being "I'm running for office for Pete's sake"?

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What legislation are you talking about?  I mentioned welfare reform; with Clinton being impeached in the House there wasn't that much legislation that passed at all.  And that Congress was a lot fucking better than that pile of shit that Rove was the architect for in 2006.

Posted by: Captain Hate at October 19, 2011 09:26 AM (s3Y/j)

Yes.  Welfare reform saved it.  (ass) 

I tried to search the record of the time for proof of what I saw at the time:  I am reminded again why politicians object to armed citizens.  From what I have observed, you (in your many hash forms on this blog), have been around probably even longer than me.  Can you  at least point out some legislation from the "contract on America" that was of benefit to America?  That welfare thing was a sham; see where we are now?

99 28 MSNBC lining up behind Romney/Cain 2012? Actually Trebek, they're all lining up for your mother. Posted by: Sean Connery at October 19, 2011 07:17 AM (HRbNv) Heh heh heh.

100 didn't take long, So, exactly who is your candidate and why? Or are you simply another Concerned Christian Conservative?

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