1 Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure

2

Finally a few Republicans question the phony science coming out of Washington

Note this also from the article concerning the Yucca Mountain issue which was closed for purely political reasons:

Not all Republicans are united in backing the Yucca site, however. 

It's a sensitive issue in Nevada, and at the Republican presidential debate in Las Vegas Tuesday night top GOP candidates said the federal government should not be sticking Nevada with the waste. 

So who are the “top GOP candidates”?

 

"The idea that 49 states can tell Nevada, 'We want to give you our nuclear waste,' doesn't make a lot of sense," former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said. 

That is the classic Mitt response, he objects without objecting. The fact is the Yucca Mountain project was approved decades ago. Billions upon billions have been collected from nuclear utilities to build it, it has been built, and it has been delayed year after year by phony court challenges, junk science, and Harry Reid. So yes you asshole Mitt, it does make a lot of sense. If the federal government can decide to build a damn ICBM base on federal property in Kansas they can certainly decide to build a damn waste storage site on their property in NV.

Anytime you here ANYONE complaining about the safety of Yucca Mountain you can automatically assume they are either a liar or they are a brainless idiot who is a waste of Oxygen and space on this earth.

3

Another OWS man associated with the Democrat Party - a real "oily figure".

4

Despite warning signs, Romney declines to reach out to major tea party groups

Two of AmericaÂ’s most active national tea party organizations say former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney has made no effort to win them over, despite his apparent need to attract more grassroots support.

LOL, how about ANY grassroots support. But, combine that with this from NH earlier this year.

As Democratic and Republican leaders in Washington struggled to find agreement on spending cuts and extending the debt limit, Mitt Romney struck a conciliatory note in New Hampshire on Monday by lamenting partisan feuding while touting his record of working with Democrats -- even the Senate's onetime liberal lion Edward M. Kennedy.

I bring this up not only because it is news on the primary front, but also because of the post from tmi3rd on “compromise”. This is the exact kind of shit that has allowed the country to move so far to the left since 1900. It is time to end the “compromise”. To a Dem compromise means Republicans do what they want when Republicans are in charge and when Dems are in charge, like the previous congress, it means sit down and STFU because we are locking you out of the committee room.

The USA is sitting on the edge of economic and political doom because of this continued shift into socialism and communism.  Democrats think we are immune from becoming Greece because we are somehow exempt from the laws of economics and nature. Some Republicans think the same damn way and I number Romney in that group.  Normally during the primary a candidate runs toward the base and then during the general turns back toward the liberals. The fact that Romney is not doing that is really scary.

But what really gets to me is the continued call by Morons on here who think that we MUST have Romney for “electability” and how incensed they get when people say they will NEVER vote for the SOB.  It should be pure common sense that when you nominate a candidate that 70-75 percent of the polled electorate do not like and 90-95% of the conservative base can not stand, that 4 or 5 percent of them will sit out the election rather than go down and vote for them, particularly if they have no other Statewide elections going on that year. (that 90-95% based on polls here and at HA for September)

You can rant and rave all you want about Obama, but that is not going to change the outcome. The fact of the matter is that Romney is no more electable than any of the other top tier candidates, possibly even less electable based on the GOTV factor that polls do not measure.  There was a recent poll discussed on Fox that said all three of the top candidates, Romney, Perry, and Cain would beat Obama, with Perry actually beating him by the widest margin.

5

NV GOP having an internal war over moving caucus dates

Personally from the elections in 2010, I think the NV, MD, and NY GOP leadership is dysfunctional.  I will freely admit that in 2008 the SC GOP leadership was no great shakes either as it was being run by the Graham faction.  That is no longer the case and 2012 should be very interesting.

6

The irony, it burns

Obama Raises More Campaign Cash From Financial Sector Than All GOP Candidates CombinedÂ…

He even raised more cash than Romney among Bain Capital employees, despite the fact that Mitt made his fortune working for them.

7

A new poll for SC was released yesterday afternoon

This is an NBC/Marist poll and going to the Marist site they have the internals but not a lot of data about the “likely voters”.  I am not sure how much I would trust this poll based on the last NBC poll which was virtually worthless. Keep in mind that the SC primaries are open and there are no major statewide offices up for grabs so Democrat primaries will be about NIL (lots of crossover voting which is where the so-called moderates are coming from in the poll internals). In any case:

30% for Herman Cain26% for Mitt Romney9% for Rick Perry6% for Newt Gingrich5% for Ron Paul5% for Michele Bachmann2% for Rick Santorum1% for Jon HuntsmanLess than 1% for Gary Johnson15% are undecided

So if the primary were held today with 25 delegates up for grabs (50/2 due to moving primary) Cain would get 8, Romney would get 6, Perry would get 2 and the rest would get 1 or less. This under the new rules for proportional delegates for the first 3 primaries.  FL is next with winner take all rules. However, now that they have moved their primary to Jan 31 that is unknown how the RNC will treat it. But, as far as SC (and Iowa and NH) the races are virtually worthless for delegate totals now and are good for nothing but PR. The RNC took a shitty set of rules and made them worse this year.

 

8

Talk about a slap on the damn wrist!

Judge sentences ex-Mullins schools leader to six years in prison

The SOB stole $500,000 from the tax payers and he is getting 6 years in jail??? If I went down and held up a liquor store for a bottle of Woodford Reserve I would get a lot more than that.

9 Hmmm, I could write a post trying to parse Cain's abortion position or I could just wait for the inevitable clarification.

10

Here's a subject that we talked a lot about last week, abuse by local cops

Is it possible to get hit for DUI when sitting in your car in your own driveway listening to music? The idea that this guy was hit to begin with is ludicrous. The idea that he had to go all the way to the State Supreme Court is even more ludicrous. Think about what this BS cost this guy.

11 And that's it for today.

12 Hmmm, I could write a post trying to parse Cain's abortion position or I could just wait for the inevitable clarification.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at October 20, 2011 07:02 AM (XVaFd)

Well Gabe, when I did the research on him for the evals the evidence I saw was that he was solid right to life.

I don't know that I would trust the WP twising his response trying to keep from looking like he is too hard core on the issue.

13

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

As someone who lives a few miles from Indian Point and is on the emergency response team, can we please unload this shit from the most densely populated area in the country and relocate it to the storage facility in an uninhabited wasteland that has taken tens of billions of dollars and decades to build? And Nevadans, please, go fuck yourselves.

14 Damn, pixy ate the formatting for that SC poll, sorry folks.

15 Supposedly you can get a dui if the keys are even in the front of the car and you are sleeping it off in your driveway. Gotta toss them in the trunk Happened to a dude in CT. He was sleeping and had the keys on the dash. Got a dui. don't know where that case is now. that was like 12 years ago

16 6He even raised more cash than Romney among Bain Capital employees, despite the fact that Mitt made his fortune working for them.

No worries, Mittens will make it up by carrying MA, NY, NJ and other more enlightened states. AH, HAHAHAHAHAHA!

17 Posted by: Zakn at October 20, 2011 07:08 AM (q/891)

I suspect that he would have a good case since highway laws are based on "implied consent" to drive on public roads.

In the past people have not fought this kind of abuse because it cost more to fight it than to suffer the "punishment". The problem is now the damn MADD scrunts have succeeded in making the punishments so bad it MUST be fought.

18 Vic, Cain began by saying, "I believe that life begins at conception and abortion - under no circumstances." That's a very strong pro-life position, sure to win social conservatives.

Okay, no problem. But then he went and described the circumstances under which abortion might be okay, like rape, etc. That's a very common, generally pro-life position. Less sure to win all social conservatives, but still very much within the mainstream.

And finally he said that the government shouldn't be making that decision for us and he wouldn't try and change abortion law. That's a very weak position in favor of the status quo. Sure to win no social conservatives.

He can have whichever position he wants, but he can't have all three he listed. They're contradictory. This is a classic Cain answer in need of a classic Cain clarification.

19 He can have whichever position he wants, but he can't have all three he listed. They're contradictory. This is a classic Cain answer in need of a classic Cain clarification.

Yeah, it appears he was trying to not appear "hard core", but one wonders if the WP was providing an accurate quote as well.

The WP has got so bad recently I have just about quit using them for a source anymore and link to them only when I want to illustrate how bad they are.

But yeah, it looks bad, but "looks".

20

In the past people have not fought this kind of abuse because it cost more to fight it than to suffer the "punishment". The problem is now the damn MADD scrunts have succeeded in making the punishments so bad it MUST be fought.

Having always thought that DUI checkpoints were unconstitutional as all get-out, we need some serious reform of driving laws when you can get busted for DUI while not driving and not being on the road.

The idiocy is staggering, but to be expected when you have, literally, a legal racket being perpetrated. Drunk driving laws have devolved into an industry.

21 Drunk driving laws have devolved into an industry.

Hell, it makes me worry about drinking a beer while mowing my grass.

22 Vic, I suppose there's a way to combine all three positions, but you won't like where it takes you. He could be saying "I don't like abortion, wouldn't do it except in the most extreme of circumstances, but it shouldn't be illegal."

That's the standard Democratic answer on abortion.

23 Posted by: BackwardsBoy at October 20, 2011 07:17 AM (d0Tfm)
It is worse than idiocy, it is a jobs program for lawyers perpetrated in the name of the chirren. 

Nothing like left-wing social engineering to remove your right to expect common sense to prevail amongst your public "servants"!

24 Dangit.

It looks like Slow Joe has been at it again. Somebody take away his microphone!

25 Joe Biden. No offense to real, cuddly, cute and friendly jackasses. The long soft ears. The curious muzzle. Leave jack asses ALONE! He's just an asshole!

26 Muammar Gaddafi Captured, Wounded in Both Legs

27 I wonder if there will be anything in the public treasury left to loot after the Øbama crowd gets voted out?

28 Muammar Gaddafi Captured, Wounded in Both Legs

You ain't got no legs, Lt. Dan!

29 With gaddaffy captured, the media will declare "Mission Accomplished!" without a trace of irony.

30 26.  Based on CNBC email report.  Sorry.

31 http://bit.ly/oJCedR
Ah to be a high official in this government.

32 Just the fact of Romney's practically assured 'ascension' to the GOP nomination throne tells me something important. Barry's work is not yet done. I had hoped at this point the county( and certainly Repubs) would be chomping at the bit to rid DC of 'progressives'(of either flavor) for a long while. We're not there yet, not by a long shot.

So, four more years of Barry might be necessary. More suffering, more pain that touches more folk, so the lesson of the evil of progressiveness is seared on the memory. Perhaps we need to drive right off the cliff and then retool. Quickest way to get that done is with Barry at the wheel.

Our family won't vote Romney. No way, no how.

Barry-lite and the continued entrenchment of the Georgette Mosebacher contingent at the head of the GOP means more of the same, just at a slightly less frenetic pace. Time to lance the boil, folks. Putting a band-aid on it won't help. Romney is a band-aid, and a small one, at that.

33 That's the standard Democratic answer on abortion.

I always thought the standard Dem position was all abortion all the time.

But regardless of the WP and the quote, he is a Baptist minister. You just will not find too many Baptist ministers who support unlimited abortion.

And for all the folks here, yes I still support Perry.

34 Muammar Gaddafi Captured, Wounded in Both Legs

I expect this means we'll be treated to another chest-beating press conference from SCOAMF telling us how he's made the world safe for democracy, as long as that democracy isn't in the US.

35 Darn if I can figure out how to post links with titles instead of the URL.  Any clues?

36 Based on CNBC email report.  Sorry.

Fox has it has a red news alert now.

37 Barry-lite and the continued entrenchment of the Georgette Mosebacher contingent at the head of the GOP means more of the same, just at a slightly less frenetic pace. Time to lance the boil, folks. Putting a band-aid on it won't help. Romney is a band-aid, and a small one, at that.

It utterly escapes me how folks cannot be calling for heads at the RNC. I've commented on it repeatedly and folks just don't see to give a shit.

But, no. This nation cannot afford four more years of Obama to simply prove a point.

38 Another OWS man associated with the Democrat Party - a real "oily figure".

Now we know where Ace went on his recent vacation.

Is it possible to get hit for DUI when sitting in your car in your own driveway listening to music?

Back in the early 80's before MADD was so prominent, Oklahoma had a law (may still have) that referred to "actual physical control" of a vehicle. If you had the keys available and were in the car, even if you were in the back seat asleep, it was considered the lowest form of DUI.  I knew several people who got popped on that one.

39 Darn if I can figure out how to post links with titles instead of the URL.  Any clues?

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 20, 2011 07:35 AM (i3+c5)

The easiest way is to post them in a word processing document first using the "insert link" feature and edit the link there. Then copy it and paste it in pixy here.

40 Posted by: As If! at October 20, 2011 07:37 AM (piMMO)

And we should listen to you peons just because you are our base?
Our RNC staffers are true Republican Establishment believers in an elite governing class and they know what's best for the country.  Just look at their track record.
Shut up and vote straight R--that's all you really need to know!

41 Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 07:41 AM (YdQQY)

Thanks I will give it a try.

42 From what I've always understood is that if the key is in the ignition and you are anywhere in the vehicle it's a dui. Even if in the backseat sleeping it off. I know a guy around here who decided to catch a few winks while in the line at Taco Johns....big no no.

43 So what exactly does the 'D' stand for in DUI, eh?

44 Gaddafi captured

Possibly, maybe, I hope I hope I hope.

His trial should be hysterical.

45 #39  Georgette Mosbacher fancies herself a kingmaker,  and she is obnoxious besides.

I do have to point out that she is one of the go-to interviewees whenever the press wants to get us upset at the RNC.  (Not that they don't deserve it,  but it is sort of like going to Ron Paul for the GOP take on the Iraq War).

Mosbacher has a lot of money and since she has already spent way too much on plastic surgery, she is looking to buy some entertainment by yanking the strings of the RNC.  Last call I got from them I smoked their ears about her and told them if they wanted to hang onto the grass roots they'd better get her to keep her mouth shut.

46 It utterly escapes me how folks cannot be calling for heads at the RNC. I've commented on it repeatedly and folks just don't see to give a shit.

What I am afraid of is if the RNC continues to ignore the wishes of the conservative/libertarian wing of the Party there will be a split off of that wing into a new Party.

That will assure complete Democrat control for at least a decade and probably longer.  The US will not survive 4 more years of Obama, much less a decade of communists running the country.

47 So what exactly does the 'D' stand for in DUI, eh?

Posted by: HH at October 20, 2011 07:47 AM (HFnqj)

Driving Under the Influence?

48

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 20, 2011 07:49 AM (i3+c5)

So if you're not driving...

49 That will assure complete Democrat control for at least a decade and probably longer.  The US will not survive 4 more years of Obama, much less a decade of communists running the country.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 07:48 AM (YdQQY)

Worse than that is the DECADES of a solid liberal (6 to 3)  Supreme Court (the de facto legislative branch) that are an inevitable result of four more years of Øbama!

.

50

So if you're not driving...

Posted by: HH at October 20, 2011 07:51 AM (HFnqj)

But if you are in a car, you might be thinking about driving!  Sort of like how a hate crime is worse than a regular crime. 

Think of it as pre-emptive policing, and expect more of it!

51 36 Muammar, stand up, let the people see you! Oh, God love ya, what am I talking about?" Posted by: Slow Uncle Joe Biden at October 20, 2011 07:35 AM (vbh31) Thread winner!

52 Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 06:58 AM (YdQQY)

It's amazing that we haven't been able to deal with the straightforward (at least technically) issue of waste storage. We are not a serious country when we allow idiots who are afraid of technology to stop the progress of an entire country.

53 Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 07:48 AM (YdQQY)

That is the inevitable result of a third party challenge from the Right, and anyone who claims differently is delusional or has a bridge to sell you.

54 Remind me again why we went after K'daffy.

55 SCOAMF!!!

56

Think of it as pre-emptive policing, and expect more of it!

(Sighs). Yeah, yer probably right, but dammit, if the law says 'Driving', then you need to be driving. I just don't see how anyone can get around that.

57 Unconfirmed reports, per CNBC, that Gaddafi has died.

58 I would guess that the wording of the DUI law is very important in how it is enforced. Here is the exact law in SC (that pertains to the actual offense)

It is unlawful for a person to drive a motor vehicle within this State while under the influence of alcohol to the extent that the person's faculties to drive a motor vehicle are materially and appreciably impaired, under the influence of any other drug or a combination of other drugs or substances which cause impairment to the extent that the person's faculties to drive a motor vehicle are materially and appreciably impaired, or under the combined influence of alcohol and any other drug or drugs or substances which cause impairment to the extent that the person's faculties to drive a motor vehicle are materially and appreciably impaired. A person who violates the provisions of this section is guilty of the offense of driving under the influence and, upon conviction, entry of a plea of guilty or of nolo contendere, or forfeiture of bail must be punished as follows: .....

The key word there is "drive", so it is evident that you must be driving the vehicle, not just sitting in it. And by the court interpretation you must be on a public road.

59 I just want to say that I love you Vic, and if I wasn't postmenopausal I would want to have your children. I can't believe that the great unwashed masses are going back to sleep as it were. How long is it going to take for us fucking sheeples to get our shit together and nominate a conservative??? In other news we are fucked in San Antonio. Our Demlibtard SOB Alamo hating mayor and a corrupt country commisioner is pushing a 180 MILLION dollar "trolly car" (ie light rail) project for a two mile stretch down town. They have not even figured where the fucker is going. Never mind that we the people voted it down in 2000, we just didn't know how good it was for us... 90million dollars per miles. Shit, that's alot of tacos.

60 sorry for the grammer mistakes and spelling. no sleep and too little coffee

61 We are not a serious country when we allow idiots who are afraid of technology to stop the progress of an entire country.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at October 20, 2011 07:58 AM (K6bNI)

We haven't been a serious country for a long time, but I don't think this is news to any of us.  We (the collective hive mind "we") have been voting to return crooks and idiots to public office in spite of clear evidence that we are being screwed.

62

If OWS had any class, humor or style, they'd adopt this as one of their anthems.  It says what they think they want to say, only it's interesting and coherent.

Granted, the actual music video sucks, but the song is perfect for them.

63 Remind me again why we went after K'daffy.

Posted by: dogfish at October 20, 2011 08:02 AM (N2yhW)

France insisted it was a good idea.

Ambassador *Not Condi* Rice agreed.

Obumble said, suuuuurrreee, why not?

64 Posted by: San Antonio Rose at October 20, 2011 08:04 AM (F12pH)

LOL, my wifey was just out there in your fair city last summer. She was visiting relatives for a reunion and they went down to San Antonio for touristy stuff. (she is from TX originally)

65 27 I wonder if there will be anything in the public treasury left to loot after the Øbama crowd gets voted out?

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 20, 2011 07:30 AM (i3+c5)

 

We're $15T below having nothing in the public treasury.

66 Exactly.  Doesn't sound as if it deserves much praise.

67

Yep. Reports are that QwackDaffy is dead.......they're celebrating in the streets.

Crap. Now we'll have to suffer another 'victory speech' from the SCoaMF.

 

68 Unconfirmed reports, per CNBC, that Gaddafi has died.

Posted by: Retread at October 20, 2011 08:04 AM (UvV0d)

Now dump him in the Med, quickly!

69 What I am afraid of is if the RNC continues to ignore the wishes of the conservative/libertarian wing of the Party there will be a split off of that wing into a new Party.

Well, see, I was prepared to yell THIS! but then this comment popped up:

Worse than that is the DECADES of a solid liberal (6 to 3)  Supreme Court (the de facto legislative branch) that are an inevitable result of four more years of Øbama!

So, now I have to yell THIS! and THIS!

70 Unconfirmed reports, per CNBC, that Gaddafi has died. Posted by: Retread at October 20, 2011 08:04 AM Silly Question, who is running that show now?

71 Hmmm, I could write a post trying to parse Cain's abortion position or I could just wait for the inevitable clarification.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at October 20, 2011 07:02 AM (XVaFd)

You might as well wait, Gabe. His position(s) will change the next time an MSM reporter asks him a question about it anyway.

Funny how much more concerned the hate-Romney part of Cain's support (and I can't stand Romney either, btw) are about all his flip-flops over the years than they are about Cain's daily flopping and flipping about.

Herman Cain: Not Even Ready To Be A Minor Gov't Functionary 2012!!!

72

We're $15T below having nothing in the public treasury.

Posted by: Truman North at October 20, 2011 08:10 AM (I2LwF)

Not as long as I have paper and ink!

73 I don't think the SCOTUS will be the main concern. I think we will go into the massive collapse and the Republic will not survive as a Republic.

Of course, it is no longer a Constitutional Republic now. It is more like a socialist oligarchy.

74 Silly Question, who is running that show now?

Why silly, who do you think?

75 on the doing links with titles. use the html < a href="link here" > Obama is a SCoaMF < /a >


remove the spaces.

76 Yes, President Obama eliminated Kadaffy, and should be reelected for his tenacity and boldness.

Hell, if having folks killed were the ultimate qualification for president, Hillary would have won in '08.

77 Now dump him in the Med, quickly!

Nah, they'll parade his body through the streets. Only SCOAMF quickly buries the evidence and then takes credit.

78 Funny how much more concerned the hate-Romney part of Cain's support (and I can't stand Romney either, btw) are about all his flip-flops over the years than they are about Cain's daily flopping and flipping about.

I don't think Cain is flip-flopping on the issue. I think what is happening is he makes a lot of "gaffes", particularly in hostile interviews and he winds up having to walk back the "gaffe".

79 Solyndra:  Shit continues to get serious.  One week after they were served by a subpoena, Obama still hasn't turned over the emails.  So the GOP has resorted to the radical tactic of... asking for them again.  Nicely.

80 Vic, you may have a point, if Obama is re-elected, we won't have a country that lasts for decades.

81 I don't think Cain is flip-flopping on the issue. I think what is happening is he makes a lot of "gaffes", particularly in hostile interviews and he winds up having to walk back the "gaffe".

And, despite claims to the contrary, Cain is not really at threat of winning the nomination, so it becomes less of an issue.

Sorry.

82 hey Saddam old boy, how's it hangin?

83 Unconfirmed reports, per CNBC, that Gaddafi has died.
Posted by: Retread at October 20, 2011 08:04 AM

Silly Question, who is running that show now?

By 8:30 am it's all Jim Cramer all the time. I wish the ghost of Mark Haines would slap some sense into them.

84  So the Washington Post, linking from a Piers Morgan interview, that's two Kevin Bacons, too far, to be reliable.

85 The Sounds of Star Wars, the book

86 I know that in Kentucky you can get a DUI for sliding down a hill while sitting on a piece of cardboard if you're drunk. Something about a "conveyance". So I guess even a pair of jeans would apply.

87 And, despite claims to the contrary, Cain is not really at threat of winning the nomination, so it becomes less of an issue.

I agree, I don't think he will. In the end it will come down to Romney the anointed or the MFM's whipping boy Perry.

88 The very first question at the next Solyndra hearing should be, “How many rapes could Democrats have prevented by giving that $535 million to cops instead?”

89 Solyndra:  Shit continues to get serious.  One week after they were served by a subpoena, Obama still hasn't turned over the emails.  So the GOP has resorted to the radical tactic of... asking for them again.  Nicely.

They are on a bookshelf in the private quarters. I'm sure of it!

Or, did I pack them away with the knick-knacks?

90 In the end it will come down to Romney the anointed or the MFM's whipping boy Perry.

I agree. Perry cannot be counted out.

91 I know that in Kentucky you can get a DUI for sliding down a hill while sitting on a piece of cardboard if you're drunk.

I can't imagine a jury convicting on that.

92 Free Mummar, Free Mummar!! The whites of Europe are again punishing the black men of Africa for their own colonial gains. Free Mummar...

93 Posted by: Muammarinmass at October 20, 2011 08:07 AM (1rflU)

What's the problem? It worked out fine in Iran.

94 I agree, I don't think he will. In the end it will come down to Romney the anointed or the MFM's whipping boy Perry. Yep, Romney vs not Romney. I don't think Newt is finsihed yet. He's a longshot but I see many waking up to the realization that he is the smartest, most qualified guy on the stage.

95 san antonio rose we have a light rail here in phoenix!!!!! it's awesome!!! you can travel nowhere on it slower than if you were walking in 130 degree heat! and the best part! while they were building it.....businesses lost business because people couldn't access there store due to construction of the line! and the fare? well it was on the honor system! so if you dishonorably hopped the gate......you got a free ride! and if you were a student? you got a free ride! and if you were a senior? you got a free ride! and if you were neither? you got to pay a lot of money for your ticket to ride! and now.....they are expanding it to the airport! which is great for about .000000001% of the population that will make use of it! yeah for light rail! it sucks!

96 Remind me again why we went after K'daffy.

The real answer?  France and Italy didn't want Libyan refugees.

97 The second observation is the breathtaking pace at which our "Leaders" continue haul our country from one violation of the Constitution to the next.

Right. And the moment someone says the word "revolution" the story becomes Republicans threaten to storm the White House!.

Unless, of course, it's a bunchy of greasy hippies saying it, then, well, that's a different story,

98 If anything demanded an executive order citing national security, its Yucca Flats.

99 57 Stopping Mitt The Inevitable Posted by: Doctor Fish Good grief! 13 more scheduled debates! Please tell me this is a typo.

100 OWS Oakland manages press in sub-optimal manner

101 I don't think Newt is finsihed yet.

Newt was finished the day he got on the couch with Nancy. To my knowledge he has never even tried to walk that back. When you add in the attack on the budget cuts as "social engineering" and his despicable and untrustworthy personal behavior it explains why he is polling so low right now.

102 Did you guys see where Schumer and Mike Lee are pushing a bill to grant automatic visas to foreigners who spend $500k on real estate in the U.S.?

Yeah.

It's supposed to help the housing market. Sell our national security. Sell our borders.

Something is very, very off about this line of thinking.

103 Funny how much more concerned the hate-Romney part of Cain's support (and I can't stand Romney either, btw) are about all his flip-flops over the years than they are about Cain's daily flopping and flipping about.

I don't think Cain is flip-flopping on the issue. I think what is happening is he makes a lot of "gaffes", particularly in hostile interviews and he winds up having to walk back the "gaffe".
Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 08:17 AM (YdQQY)

I'm starting to think he gives the answer that he thinks whatever audience happens to be listening or reading (the one he assumes is anyway) will like hearing the most (or maybe just that particular interviewer...who knows). Sort of the definition of pandering, yes? I either have to think that or think that he's so ignorant about most stuff as to be functionally retarded (or maybe senile at his age). (shrug) Either way, he's got no business with the GOP nomination or setting up residency in the White House. Some of his nonsense probably are just gaffes, but either way, no sale.

104 Posted by: Truman North at October 20, 2011 08:27 AM (I2LwF)

The Oakland I knew is obviously gone forever.

105

So, four more years of Barry might be necessary. More suffering, more pain that touches more folk, so the lesson of the evil of progressiveness is seared on the memory. Perhaps we need to drive right off the cliff and then retool. Quickest way to get that done is with Barry at the wheel.

 

 

"Four more years of Barry" doesn't necessarily mean four more years of Barry.

 

 

If Republicans decide they'll stay home or even vote for Obama because they didn't get a nominee they liked then we'll all have to live with two to three atrocious SCOTUS picks for likely the next twenty years and beyond.  Think how hard it will be to retool with those clowns stuck on the bench?

 

 

106 102) It's not an original thought,  most recently voiced by commenter Rob Crawford, but Heinlein was prescient to call this the 'Crazy Years'

107 I'm starting to think he gives the answer that he thinks whatever audience happens to be listening or reading (the one he assumes is anyway) will like hearing the most (or maybe just that particular interviewer...who knows)

I posted this comment about Cain a few days ago:Herman Cain is fun. About that there is no doubt. He's the kind of guy it would be fun to hang with.

But President? No.

That's not to say I won't vote for him if he's the nominee, because I will, but then again I'd vote for a root vegetable before I'd let Obama off the hook without an opposing vote.

Cain behaves the same as nearly every CEO I've ever worked for, which is to say that it doesn't matter two shits if the underlings like his ideas: BACK INTO THEM! They don't have to be logical. They don't even have to be doable. All they have to be is "catchy". Of course, six months later and you're trying to craft a presentation for the board to explain the fiasco in such a way that the CEO is left unscathed.

THAT, I feel certain, is how Cain will operate.

108 Think how hard it will be to retool with those clowns stuck on the bench?

The obvious solution then is don't vote for Romney in the primary. People are not looking for a "perfect" candidate". They are looking for ABR.

109 "Don't Shoot!" Obama owns Libya, another nation to leave worse than he found it.

110 I don't care for or like Mitt; but if he gets the nod, I'm voting for him.  Anybody But Obama.

111 I killed Gaddafi. Long live the Muslim Brotherhood.

112 Breaking: picture of Ghaddafi captured

Justice for the victims of PanAm flight 103

113 The obvious solution then is don't vote for Romney in the primary. People are not looking for a "perfect" candidate". They are looking for ABR.

I will not vote for Romney in the primary, but if he gets the nomination, I'll damn sure poke the chad for him in the general.

114 Justice for the victims of PanAm flight 103

Is the "cancer patient" still breathing?

115

"So, four more years of Barry might be necessary. More suffering, more pain that touches more folk, so the lesson of the evil of progressiveness is seared on the memory. Perhaps we need to drive right off the cliff and then retool. Quickest way to get that done is with Barry at the wheel."

Yes, yes, yes, my children and grand children need to be taught a painful lesson! Why, they are busy being young and stupid, those little bastards! Let's destroy their futures so we can say we stood on principal.

You assholes are worse than the Obots.

116 Breaking: picture of Ghaddafi captured Justice for the victims of PanAm flight 103 Posted by: franksalterego at October 20, 2011 08:35 AM (9XykO) He's looked better?

117

I know we had a whole front-page post on this yesterday and everything, but this is so cringe-worthy as to induce traffic jams as people crane their nexks to see the stupid:

 

“It’s very clear that private-sector jobs have been doing just fine; it’s the public-sector jobs where we’ve lost huge numbers, and that’s what this legislation is all about,” Reid said on the Senate floor.

118
I know that in Kentucky you can get a DUI for sliding down a hill while sitting on a piece of cardboard if you're drunk.

I can't imagine a jury convicting on that.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 08:22 AM (YdQQY)

In a dry county with a bunch of bible-thumpers on the jury?

In a heartbeat.

While I lived there I read about a few cases of people getting a DUI for riding horseback while drunk.

119 New thread up on Libya

120 Vic at October 20, 2011 08:27 AM First of all, many fine GOP pols and candidates jumped on the Green train only to get educated and jump off. The Social engineering thing? I still haven't figured out exactly what he meant by that, he was under gotcha assault from an MFM prick. The thin layer of scum that is his personal life? I think we all know people that are good at their jobs but are otherwise scumbags. We know there are none passing the Purity test, so if the personal life is the fault, I can live with that. You are right Vic, not much of a chance. However, when things get desperate, people start to become more focused on whats important. I think Newt could do a fine job. I like the Perry guy but who ever is handling him needs slapped.

121 OK, Whats wrong with the comments on doom?

122 "Perhaps we need to drive right off the cliff and then retool. Quickest way to get that done is with Barry at the wheel."

...You're already on board Obama's bandwagon going your chosen course into the bottomless pit where there is no retooling. Abandon all hope ye who enter.

123 While I lived there I read about a few cases of people getting a DUI for riding horseback while drunk.

I have seen cases of that in TX. Like I said earlier though, it depends on the wording of the law and where you are "operating the conveyance". You could not be convicted of riding a horse drunk here because the law does specify a "motor vehicle" and the law also defines a motor vehicle. A horse or a cardboard slat doesn't meet that definition. (A riding lawnmower does)

However, even in a real restrictive State, the law still depends on the "implied consent rule" which requires you to be on a public road.

124 In 2001 I was leaving a Mardi Gras parade and knew I was too drunk to make it home, so I crashed out in my truck and awoke to cops banging on my window. I explained why I was sleeping there, they asked if I would consent to a search, which I did, and then they moved my truck to a safe spot, patted me down, put me in the back of this cute female cop's car and she drove me home. The police aren't always dicks.

125 RE Cain's positions:
“I can have an opinion on an issue without it being a directive on the nation,” ...

Somebody explain to me why that philosophy is flip flopping.
Apparently I flip flop a lot, myself.

126 Bad riots in Greece.  Sarkhozy says NATO is sending in troops!

Does this mean we will now be in Greece as well?

127 The thin layer of scum that is his personal life? I think we all know people that are good at their jobs but are otherwise scumbags.

Bill Clinton thanks you for your vote.

128 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at October 20, 2011 08:44 AM (XE2Oo)

Glad it worked out for you, but it's a very bad idea to consent to a search.

Did you invite her in?

129 Democrats exult at their own “Tea Party,” in all its grubby grandeur. The DNC touts the inherent democratic element of the movement. Natural born rebel Barack undoubtedly feels a bred-in-the-bone kinship with the anti-capitalist malcontents.

Now, if only he can convince Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorhn to teach a few bomb-making classes.

130 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet , still waiting for Godot at October 20, 2011 08:40 AM (ZDUD4)

The problems are several fold. First it wasn't just "getting on the green bandwagon". I can understand that to some extent even though I don't agree with it. He got on the couch with the most hated liberal in the Dem party to help push that crap of a bill for AGW through. That bill was so bad it was insane. Any Republican who supported that bill should be run out of the Party.

The social engineering comment referred to the Ryan call for cutting back on medicare and medicaid from what I understood. He helped the Dems attack the plan.

As for his personal life, yes it is his own life and he will have to answer for it. But to me it reflects a personal trait that indicates that he simply can not be trusted. When the chips are down he will shit on you if he sees a benefit for himself in it somewhere.

I do not want someone like that running the country. We had it with Nixon and we had it with Clinton.

131 I thought the Republican candidates' pro-life position was no federal funding of abortion and a return to states ability to choose the legality of abortion, allowing states to restrict/outlaw abortion? Is Perry running on a federal ban on abortion? Was Cain previously running on such a platform only to have changed his position now? Perhaps I'm mistaken. Perhaps I'm just bleary-eyed from the incessant bickering, back-biting and constant charges of hypocrisy, bad faith and lies on the right.

132 OK, Whats wrong with the comments on doom?

What doom?

133

Never rub another man's rhubarb.

Heed thine own words counselor.

134 62

Think of it as pre-emptive policing, and expect more of it!

(Sighs). Yeah, yer probably right, but dammit, if the law says 'Driving', then you need to be driving. I just don't see how anyone can get around that.

Posted by: HH at October 20, 2011 08:03 AM (HFnqj)

Here in Ohio, it's called OVI (Operation of a Vehcle while under the Influence).  It was called OWI for a while, and a few others before that.  I've had a few friends ganked under it for sleeping it off in the back of a friends' car.  It was considered OVI because they were in a vehicle and they had a set of keys; in both instances not to the vehicle they were sitting in.  One didn't even have vehicle keys, just his apartment and work keys, because he didn't own a vehicle at the time.

135 Glad it worked out for you, but it's a very bad idea to consent to a search. Did you invite her in? Not by my calculus. They had me cold for DUI if they wanted to, and I knew I had nothing illegal in my truck. They weren't being pushy about it, so why antagonize them needlessly? I know the libertarian move would be to say, "Fuck you, pig! Hands off my liberty!" That's why libertarians are stupid. I'm betting half of the stories they tell leave out the part where they acted like an unhinged fuck-knob and escalated to an unnecessary confrontation. And no, I didn't invite her in. She was very pleasant and I thanked her politely and told her goodnight. It would have been an awesome ending that no one would ever have believed.

136 Obama Raises More Campaign Cash From Financial Sector Than All GOP Candidates CombinedÂ…

He even raised more cash than Romney among Bain Capital employees, despite the fact that Mitt made his fortune working for them.

Posted by: Vic at October 20, 2011 07:01 AM (YdQQY)

 

Just a couple of days ago the left wing rag the Financial Times ran a story that the big EVIL Wall Street money had abandoned Barry and was flooding to Republicans because they're EVIL too. Reality is an enemy to liberalism

137 We are not a serious country when we allow idiots who are afraid of technology to stop the progress of an entire country.

Stem Cells, cough.

Yes I know they're not the same.  I'm doing contradictory Thursday.
This goes for the DUI over the top industry also.  Despite the over enforcements noted here Drunks still kill all over the roads every day.

And for a laugh.
Steve knows his rights!
http://tinyurl.com/3mxbayd

138 "Hey Jeff, tell us again about the chick cop who tasered you until you shit your pants." THAT ending would be believable.

139 I have a question about the OWS losers. Since the government took over student loans, couldn't they be forgiven by Obama? He would guarantee himself their votes, and simultaneously screw all of the (probably Repubs) who somehow managed to pay for their education without government backed student loans. Could this be part of the reason for these demonstrations?

140 154 I have a question about the OWS losers. Since the government took over student loans, couldn't they be forgiven by Obama?

Nah, they were too busy tripling minimum payments, and changing loan types so you get drafted into Peace Corps if you default.

141 155, Thanks for the answer. i guess I was just trying to find some rhyme or reason behind these protests.

142 156, Not sure anyone really noticed the loan type change.  It might've just been the education loans.  Still burns my ass that I specifically picked a private loan -which meant a slightly higher interest rate- so I wouldn't be in that enlistment program, but got it anyway (and the same higher interest rate).

143 106 san antonio rose

we have a light rail here in phoenix!!!!! it's awesome!!! you can travel nowhere on it slower than if you were walking in 130 degree heat! and the best part! while they were building it.....businesses lost business because people couldn't access there store due to construction of the line! and the fare? well it was on the honor system! so if you dishonorably hopped the gate......you got a free ride! and if you were a student? you got a free ride! and if you were a senior? you got a free ride! and if you were neither? you got to pay a lot of money for your ticket to ride! and now.....they are expanding it to the airport! which is great for about .000000001% of the population that will make use of it! yeah for light rail! it sucks!

Posted by: phoenixgirl occupying my kitchen at October 20, 2011 08:25 AM (SH3gZ)

 

Ditto for the Bayou City (Houston).  Whom copied off of whom, I wonder??  Plus it turns out Houston drivers are far worse than anticipated at crashing into the trains.

Houston City Council and Metro's position echo's Judge Smails':  You get light rail and you'll like it!!

144 As a 20+ year police officer, and current patrol shift supervisor, arresting a person for DWI in their own driveway is a non-starter; DWI is an implied consent offense, and requires the operation of the motor vehicle or conveyance on a public street or highway, neither of which include a private residential driveway. Would I talk with the person? Sure, and I would explain to them what the procedure would be if they decided to drive off from the driveway. Would I arrest them right there? No. That is not to say that I have not, after following a DWI driver (and him refusing to pull over even with blue lights and siren going) until he reached his driveway, arrested a person for DWI in his driveway. But prior to pulling into his driveway he had been operating his vehicle on a public street. There is a difference.   

145 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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