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Yesterday I got a little suspicious about the Louisiana second hand law story. Seven million blog posts about it and they all linked back to one and only one tv news story. Lack of journalism from other media or was there more to the story?

Link in my name to a blog that got a little more info from the writer of the law. Within the story is a link to the first blog that seems to have more info. (I just found this blog easier to read so that's what I'm linking.)

It's not the most clear clarification evah...I'll keep searching for more info when it appears...

2

News over on the ONT

3 SPECTER: 'Today there isn't a moderate in the Republican Party. The rise of the tea party has driven moderates out of Washington'...

4 MamaAJ I went out found a news story on that yesterday. It is a legitimate story. They did make that stupid law.

5 I am surprised Snarlin Arlin can even walk and chew gum he is so stupid.

6 SUSQUEHANNA POLL: OBAMA WOULD LOSE PA

7 Rendell: Romney would carry PA today...

8 Brilliance on display.  Heh.

9 Specter/Spector was never a "moderate Republican.". He was a Democrat all along.

10 Prince Harry dating American slut with CFM Tramp Stamp?? Or is she just a local weather girl from Little Rock?

11 Harry is dating Barbie?

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13 3 SPECTER: 'Today there isn't a moderate in the Republican Party. The rise of the tea party has driven moderates out of Washington'... Posted by: Ed Anger If only this were true! What a joke.

14

Just like the Tea Party

I'd like to be able to laugh at this shit, but it's just too fucking scary.

15 So Vic, do you know who is behind planning all of these debates?

16 I would suppose the RNC, but that would be a raw guess.

17 9 Specter/Spector was never a "moderate Republican.". He was a Democrat all along. Posted by: CoolCzech I am thinking that defines Romney as well.

18 I am thinking that defines Romney as well.

Posted by: macintx at October 22, 2011 09:22 AM (ucs8Y)

Yep, he was talking about crossing the aisle again last week. I can not see how anyone who calls themselves a Republican could be in his corner.

19 Aw jeez:

Philly Mayoral candidate: 'I'm not the typical Republican...I'm like the Switzerland'...

- Karen Brown, a longtime Democratic committeewoman recruited by the Republican City Committee this year to run for mayor, speaking on NBC 10.

20

MamaAJ I went out found a news story on that yesterday. It is a legitimate story. They did make that stupid law.

Yeh, there's a law, but it doesn't outlaw people using cash at garage sales.

21 Yeh, there's a law, but it doesn't outlaw people using cash at garage sales.

The news story I saw out of Baton Rouge said it outlawed cash for sales of ALL used stuff. The idea was to provide traceability for stolen goods.

22 Thanks, Mama AJ.. nowhere near as draconian as the early reports made it sound.

23

*cough*

I didn't mean to repeat myself repetitively AGAIN.

24 Vic - that's wrong.. read Mama AJ's link..

25 ...recruited by the Republican City Committee this year to run for mayor, speaking on NBC 10. Posted by: Ed Anger Well isn't that just like them. No wonder the news is ticking me off. They will never learn a thing.

26

I gotta run, but you can find the text of the law online. LA Act. 389.

Have a good morning, all y'all.

27

SPECTER: 'Today there isn't a moderate in the Republican Party. The rise of the tea party has driven moderates out of Washington'... Because as I have behaved like an unprincipled asshole for years, it has made it unpopular to be a moderate Republican.'
Posted by: Ed Anger

 

There, I fixed that little problem.

28 The WSF has an opinion piece on the DOJ suing an IL school over them refusing to grant leave to a muslim teacher that wanted to go on hadj. The school district had good solid reasons for not granting the leave, but hey wtf PCness wins the day.
 
If this stands, it means that now any muslim can claim the same urge anywhere in the US and it must be granted. It is a new right manufactured out of thin air.

29

Here is the actual bill

Here is the actual law. We know the intent was to cover pawn shops etc. However, if you look at the actual definition of the applicable "dealers" it could be applied to anyone selling used goods.

Does anyone think cops wouldn't apply it to someone they were after at a yard sale?

30
The news story I saw out of Baton Rouge said it outlawed cash for sales of ALL used stuff. The idea was to provide traceability for stolen goods.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 09:26 AM (YdQQY)

The original post I read said that non-profits like the Salvation Army and Goodwill Industries, as well as pawn shops (which already keep records of purchases) were the only exemptions.

31 I have no doubt that the government would like to ban ALL cash transactions. They already require reporting any transaction over $10k. Just think of all the nifty databases you could build and search through to find owed taxes. Or, they might just want a detailed dossier on anyone's likes/dislikes right down to which brand of nipple cream you prefer.
 
Just like the OBlaBlaCare act, which requires doctors to submit everyone's med records to the gubmint in electronic form.

32 The original post I read said that non-profits like the Salvation Army and Goodwill Industries, as well as pawn shops (which already keep records of purchases) were the only exemptions.

Yeah, the bill does have that, but my reading of it does include that yards sales are not exempt.

33 ...no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark...

34
Yeah, the bill does have that, but my reading of it does include that yards sales are not exempt.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 09:41 AM (YdQQY)

Like I said in reply to the original post, we would have flea market riots here if such a law were passed. Can you imagine how many businesses this would affect? Used book stores would be devastated. But the camel now has his nose under the tent.

35 Like I said in reply to the original post, we would have flea market riots here if such a law were passed.

It was passed. I suspect that they did not intend to include yard sales and such and they just screwed up the wording of the definition.

If they are smart they will immediately amend the law to "fix" it.

36

32 ...Vic, I agree. ....Whenever a law is left up to Interpretation, it becomes a nightmare for citizens....and a gift to lawyers who get to argue it.

Yet another example of 'punishing the good guys for what the bad guys do'.

Chock up another hit to our freedoms, thanks to the War on Drugs. ....The lovers of Big Government have wanted to eliminate cash altogether for a long time.

The Fed Reserve would love it of course, because then it would be less apparent to the sheep if they didn't have to actually 'see' how many more dollars it takes to buy the same things.

37 I'd rather be considered a moderate conservative than a CAVE man conservative. Complain About Virtually Everything. It's well established that Vic would consider Reagan a RINO.

38 While you were sleeping.

More joy from the usual R suspects.

39 Bless Robert Heinlein.

40 I'd rather be considered a moderate conservative than a CAVE man conservative. Complain About Virtually Everything. It's well established that Vic would consider Reagan a RINO. Posted by: polynikes
..........
lol.. and did ya know Fox has now become a left-wing puppet of the Democratic party?
Really!  Hey.. I read it on the internets.. it must be true!

41 17 9 Specter/Spector was never a "moderate Republican.". He was a Democrat all along.
Posted by: CoolCzech



I am thinking that defines Romney as well.

Posted by: macintx at October 22, 2011 09:22 AM (ucs8Y)

It's time we take back the Republican Party!

...

For the Democrats.

42 @37


   I think Vic has a pretty damn good grasp on the situation. Hopefully those of us who do will be able  to effect change in the upcoming elections.

43 Moderate-Conservative
Military Justice
Oxymoron

You are either a conservative or not.

44 That statement will be recycled - with proper credit given. Kewl.

45 Moderate-Conservative
Military Justice
Oxymoron

You are either a conservative or not.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 10:16 AM (YdQQY)

Jumbo - Shrimp

46 What did the Morons think of this from the news this morning?

News shocker! BOA predicts another US debt rating downgrade.

47 It was passed. I suspect that they did not intend to include yard sales and such and they just screwed up the wording of the definition.

If they are smart they will immediately amend the law to "fix" it.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 09:51 AM

I think they thought by saying it only applied to those selling more than once a month it would exempt yard sales.  But "once a month" is open to interpretation too.  Does that mean one day or one weekend or one group of consecutive days?  Most yard sales run two days or a weekend...and flea markets too run much longer than one day or more often. 

48 and flea markets too run much longer than one day or more often.

I really don't think that they intended to exempt flea markets since most of them are "licensed dealers".

49 42 @37 I think Vic has a pretty damn good grasp on the situation. Hopefully those of us who do will be able to effect change in the upcoming elections. Posted by: irongrampa I second that. Mederate Republican= Rhino in my book.

50 Sitting here watching The Sting on RETRO. They just showed that old classic idiot cliche'. A guy screwing a silencer on a revolver.

51 46 What did the Morons think of this from the news this morning?

I think it's time to buy more ammo.

52

46....I guess the massive intimidation efforts from the White House are not working?  By their own ratings criteria, the debt ratings outfits like Moodys, S&P, should probably have already downgraded us to a B....but then other countries should have been downgraded too. Their credibility is at stake now, which is their stock and trade.

The O-administration can only hide the real numbers for so long.

53 The big one is coming. Can we make it past this election is the question.

54 >>You are either a conservative or not.
Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 10:16 AM (YdQQY)

I think of "moderate" as easily confused, like someone that would self identify with mid-western cities or some feel good, new age oriental bullshit.

55 The MFM call someone a "moderate" when they cross the aisle and vote with the Dems more than 50% of the time.  Unless they are a Dem, then if they vote with the Republicans once in their life they are a moderate.

56

Conservative/Libertarian: we are a people with a government.

Progressive: the government is a rancher with cattle. (that's why they need to manage our health, diet, etc. It's just good animal husbandry).

57
They just showed that old classic idiot cliche'. A guy screwing a silencer on a revolver.

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 10:30 AM (YdQQY)

There actually is a Russian made revolver that would work with.

58

That piece in the sidebar by Artur Davis about Alabama's voter ID law is HUGE.  Needs its own post.  He is coming right out and saying there is massive voter fraud in the black communities and he has heard people bragging about it and even been asked to help pay for it.  Davis has always been a guy that has bucked the black Establishment and I'm sure he is going to get threats and intimidation for writing this article, but it is high time someone did. 

If we can get a voter ID law passed in Pennsylvania, we may never see another Democrat elected President.  There are more registered voters in Philadelphia than there are people, and most inner-city precincts consistently report a 100% turnout in Presidential elections.  Nobody around here believes the numbers that come out of Philly are even remotely honest, yet nobody does anything about it.   

59 Can we make it past this election is the question. Posted by: Vic I was just about to write that. Damn depressing. This election is huge. A "moderate-conservative" for the republican party would be disastrous.

60

The Dems declare that we should be reasonable....and cave in to their demands.

Moderate Republicans think that we should be reasonable....and cave in to the Dems demands.

So, who are the real "Cave Men" here?

61 Hey, Let's Occupy Martha's Vineyard!!! Maybe we could hitch a ride next time Barry flies out there to chastise all those wicked, wicked Millionaires & Billionaires!!!

62 @60: that's sort of like the way Liberals like to accuse conservatives of being "anti-science" because we don't necessarily buy off on politicized "science" and some of us subscribe to creationism vs evolution (that being such a burning issue, after all). Meanwhile, they STILL subscribe to "scientific" Central Economic Planning, for LOL!

63 All this just  points up just what the strategy needs to be for the upcoming election.

  There has to be a balls out GOTV effort, voting straight ticket. Unless we have an unassailable majority in the House and Senate, nothing worthwhile can happen.

  Regardless if it's Perry or Romney, this must happen. In the case of Romney, it would corral his liberal "work with the other side" tendencies. In Perry's case, it would strengthen his position immensely.

  Having neither means stasis, or decline.

64
Time to genuflect again, LA.  Your Deity graces you with his presence:

Obama arrival Monday will be at rush hour

President Barack Obama is scheduled to arrive at LAX on board Air Force One between 4:30 and 5 p.m. on Monday, the White House just announced. This means that however he moves to the Hancock Park area for Democratic campaign fundraisers at the home of producer James Lassiter and later at the home of Melanie Griffith and Antonio Banderas, his travel will fall during the peak time for cross-town traffic.

The White House also confirmed that the president will stay overnight in the area, then tape an interview with Jay Leno for Tuesday's "Tonight Show" before departing from LAX mid-morning for San Francisco and Denver.

65 The last GOP administration had priggish silly boys like Rove and Frum as opinion shapers. Think about that, and add to the mix some seriously misguided neo-con policy.
One way or the other the GOP as we knew it (dominated by the Rockefeller/Bush types) is going the way of the dinosaur, and that will be a positive development so long as a viable replacement evolves from a conservative movement before The Republic goes over the cliff.

66 Vic has a spokesman:

"Where's the Conservative Republican in the Debate?"
by  Roger Hedgecock

Cooper's job included using Obama attack lines.  Take ObamaCare.

Not one question about Fast and Furious.  In an effort to blame gun ownership in the U.S. for border violence, a program budgeted by Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder allowed thousands of guns to be illegally purchased in the U.S. and disappear into Mexico to arm the already dangerous Mexican drug cartel.  Not one candidate spoke up.

Not one question about Solyndra.  About crony capitalism.  About Obama's inaction on the Keystone XL pipeline.  Did the candidates think that Cooper would ask questions that would allow them to attack the most failed record of our times since Jimmy Carter​?  If not asked, why didn't the candidates act like conservatives and bring up these topics themselves?

Only Perry dared to stray from the question to state a case for oil and gas drilling to create jobs.  

The first primary is less than two months away, but the election is still 13 long months from now.  When will the Republican candidates insist on a moderator who will let the voters hear more than 30 seconds of attack sound bites.

Voters deserve better.  Voters want to hear how each of these candidates would act to free the economy, limit government and restore the blessings of liberty.  Maybe next debate.

67 #60 When has voter you consider to be 'moderate' threaten to stay home and not vote if their candidate isn't the nominee? You have it assbackwards.

68 On a lighter note, because the news is too damn depressing all at once... Vic, how was your Hungarian Goulash last night? I had made a Mexican Goulash a few nights ago and last night we had a beef and cabbage soup. Both were very good. Left-overs tonight. Yeah!

69 The Dems declare that we should be reasonable....and cave in to their demands.

Like kids lording over their parents. "If you love me, you'll obey my every wish."

70 Regardless if it's Perry or Romney, this must happen. In the case of Romney, it would corral his liberal "work with the other side" tendencies. In Perry's case, it would strengthen his position immensely.

  Having neither means stasis, or decline.
Posted by: irongrampa
..........
Exactly.  GOTV will never be as important as it's going to be next year.

Here in Illinois there's no chance in hell we'll go red in the presidential race.  But we still have to make sure we retain or gain as many congressional seats as we can.

71 If we can get a voter ID law passed in Pennsylvania, we may never see another Democrat elected President. 

And this is why Dems fight these laws tooth and nail. Our law was recently passed (about 6 to 9 months ago). It is being held up at the corrupt DOJ.

72

"Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the defense of justice is no virtue." - Barry Goldwater, 1964.

There's a wide lattitude of what  free people can believe and keep their freedom, relatively speaking.  But being "moderately" tolerant of a government that is bent on eviscerating the Constitution, and finding that there is one particular political party that really believes, this , and then realizing that "moderate" Republicans like Arlen Specter have spent a well-paid career enabling this, gives me pause when considerating "moderation".

It's my life, isn't it? Who else will give a damn about "my life" more than I? But no, let's be moderate, and maybe we'll be fed to the crocodile last, or we won't be rounded up for re-education when the time comes with harsh words, just "please get on the bus for the re-education camps."

My teenage children are a little too young to actually understand all that is at stake, so I can forgive them their lack of life experience that makes one totally skeptical of "moderates" who have only the best of intentions. Of course, "moderates" are always more agreeable. That's why they are moderates.

And the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

73 Vic, how was your Hungarian Goulash last night?

It was good, had to violate my diet and go back for seconds. The only problem is my wife had ordered paprika of the California Sweet variety from Pensey's in the last order. It wasn't as spicy as I normally like it.

74

67 Polynikes,

Defiance against the tyranny of being forced to be 'reasonable'.....is in the air.

Yet the Republican 'moderates' and elitist squishes refuse to see it.

Since they don't mind caving in to the demands of the Dems....why can't they cave in to the wishes of the 75% who do not want Romney as their candidate?

If the establishment Republicans force Romney on us, by manipulating the primaries and buying the nomination for him....then they are the ones who will be to blame if Obama gets a 2nd term.

They are forewarned. People will stay home if Romney is the nominee. This is no big secret. This is why Romney lost last time.

75 73 I have never tried cooking with a sweet paprika. If you have left-overs tonight you might try adding a little bit of crushed red pepper to spice it up.

76 I put all the left-overs in the freezer. I did send some over to my neighbor who had never had it before. Had to pay her back for mowing my lawn yesterday. I still can't mow until after next week.

77 74 People will stay home if Romney is the nominee. This is no big secret. This is why Romney lost last time. Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter Not sure if this is why Romney lost last time. But for crying out loud, he couldn't even beat McCain. He is a very weak (or should I say poor) candidate and nothing can hide that.

78 If the establishment Republicans force Romney on us, by manipulating the primaries and buying the nomination for him....then they are the ones who will be to blame if Obama gets a 2nd term.

The Romneybots complain about people saying they will stay at home and they have nobody to blame but themselves. As I have said previously 70% to75% of the general polled people hate him and 90 to 95 percent of the conservative base hate him.

So do not be surprised if 4 or 5 percent of that base sits it out, particularly if they have no other Statewide elections. In a State like VA if 5% of the base sits it out Obama will win that State.

So if you don't want an Obama second term, do not vote for Romney.

79

77....Right, Macintx.

He was a weak candidate in '08 because people saw through his flip-flopping squishiness then, as they do now. People were saying back then..."If Romney gets it, I will stay home".

So we are in agreement. I just eliminated a few of the connective dots in the interest of brevity.

If anything, its even worse now......because of all the current Class Warfare and anti-corporate rhetoric. Romney has made millions off of being a corporate raider and killing jobs. No one is really saying this now. ....The Dems are saving it for the general.

80 A Romney Presidency (if he were even able to win) would just be turning down the flame on the soon to boil frog water.
This country needs someone to dump the pan off the stove once and for all.

81 79 and 80 Amen and Amen!

82 Had to pay her back for mowing my lawn yesterday.

So, not only didn't you tell her "Get off my lawn" at gunpoint.  You fed her.  Ha, I knew it.  Moderate, squish, you are not of the body!

83 So, not only didn't you tell her "Get off my lawn" at gunpoint.

I don't have a Garand so I can't do that.

84 Over at Politico the loons are crowing about Rubio's supposed "lies" about being from a family of Cuban refugees.

Apparently they (conveniently) define "Cuban refugee" to mean only those who left Cuba AFTER Fidel declared himself a Marxist, ran show trials that led to mass executions, and expropriated property from "the rich" (defined to mean anyone making over 250,000 pesos, I guess).

No mention of giving up going back to Cuba because you might never be let back out, or of deciding to stay in America because you rightly "fear persecution" (Obama's Aunti Zetuni and Uncle Omar spurious reason for arguing they should notbe sent back to Kenya), or of just not wanting to live under Marxism.

No, they think they've "got him".  And, of course, the Birthers are saying Rubio is not a "natural born citizen", using crabbed interpretations of that term, never adopted by any statute or court holding.   Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindall are equally not NBCs, doncha know....

85 Nikki Haley and Bobby Jindall are equally not NBCs, doncha know....

Nikki Haley was born in Bamberg, SC.  Except for a brief period that has always been part of the United States. So, she is a NBC.

86
I remember the Ronulans arguing that McCain wasn't a NBC during the 2008 campaign. That level of idiocy gets old in a hurry.

87 Moderate Republicans think that we should be reasonable....and cave in to the Dems demands.

Moderate R's and the Dems are marching in the same direction.  The only difference is the their rate of speed .

88 Even if the drummers had some of their stuff stolen, would it really take $8,000 to replace it? Sounds like they are padding the bill.

89
85"Nikki Haley was born in Bamberg, SC.  Except for a brief period that has always been part of the United States. So, she is a NBC."

Vic, the birther "argument" is that she and Jindall, like Rubio, were born in the USA to legal immigrant parents who were not yet US citizens.

Inane, I know, but that's their story, and they're sticking to it.

90

The OWS whack jobs in this area are visibly hooking up with unions for more protests. One is asking for a parade permit . . . at rush hour.

Thinking about making some signs and going on down. "No More Solyndras"

"Green is a Code Word" "Oppress This" "Better Red than Dead" "Tear Down This Camp!"

 

91 BTW...

Beat SC!

92

The OWS whack jobs in this area are visibly hooking up with unions for more protests. One is asking for a parade permit . . . at rush hour.

Thinking about making some signs and going on down. "No More Solyndras"

"Green is a Code Word" "Oppress This" "Better Red than Dead" "Tear Down This Camp!"

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at October 22, 2011 12:19 PM (e4dtL)

Makes you sound like teh commie

93 "....my wife had ordered paprika of the California Sweet variety..."

Posted by: Vic at October 22, 2011 11:02 AM (YdQQY

COMMIE!

94 a story on The Blaze says that on Nov. 9th the government is going to run a test, and at 2:00 they will shut off the TV and radio broadcasts for a few minutes. I can't link on this IPOD, but it is a story that makes you go Hmmmmm.

95 Vic: Why don't you have an M 1 Garand? Everyone I know has at least one.

96 If I had bought one back in the 60s when you could still order them from Sears it would have been cool. Now they cost too damn much.

I used to have an M1 Carbine but even those now are expensive as hell.

97 What I remember was about $75 for one NIB still with cosmoline on it. If you could find one like that now it would go for well over a thousand. Inflation would put $75 at $540.

98 Polynikes, sweetheart, you're right, moderates don't threaten to sit out elections. They vote. That's how Obama got 52% last time.

99 More on that mass-resignation of Bachmann staffers in NH.  At least one of them has gone to Perry's team. 

Is Michele still denying it happened or has she caught up with the news?

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