1

GOP fighting another POS that most of us didnÂ’t know anything about

Sometimes the insanity is just too much. GOP lawmakers now fighting the EPA because border patrol not allowed to monitor parts of the border due to completely stupid EPA regulations.

Nearly 40 percent of the land on the U.S.-Mexico border and about a quarter of the land on the U.S.-Canadian border is public land, including Big Bend National Park in Texas and Glacier National Park in Montana. Driving is prohibited on those parts of the land that are designated wilderness areas.

This is the area that the EPA and the Obamnites was wanting to increase. So it is a wilderness area, so freakin what. Why is it that law enforcement can not drive on it? The damn illegals and drug smugglers are using it for a superhighway and dumping fking trash because they know it isnÂ’t patrolled.

This is too stupid to be one of those “unforeseen consequences”.  This is deliberate policy to not enforce the border. And of course the eco-tards are against it and I am sure that the eco-commies like Markey (C-MA) will be glad to help them.

2

This is what we need in the house and Senate. Instead we have crying Boner and Cringin 'Connell.

3

Yet more horseshit fallout from the "Supercommittee deal of the century".

Democrats want to add more porkulous spending and a $1T tax increase. It is time to kill this fraking committee.  What I would like to see is Crying Boner pull a Pelosi and hold a committee meeting to craft the budget and lock the Democrats out of the room.

So how does the Washington Compost characterize this story? (no link)

SupercommitteeÂ’ showing signs of life

This paper has become a bad joke.

4

Yet another CR but note the caption under the headline/link to the story at The Hill.

Russell Berman - 10/26/11 06:21 PM ET

Government funding runs out Nov 18; neither chamber has yet to approve a single appropriations bill of the 12Â…

This is a lie. The House has approved a budget and it is languishing under the asshole of Harry Reid.

5

When do the Demo-commies support the 10th Amendment and State's rights?

When it infringes on their StateÂ’s ability to stifle the 2^nd Amendment.

6

I mentioned the other day that we may be seeing an ongoing war between the conservative branch of the GOP and the "moderates" (to put it kindly)

It looks like some of the candidates have declared war on Rove. Personally, I have never credited him with much in the way of political smarts. Bush II won in 2000 because of Clinton fatigue and Al Gore was the epitome of stupid unimpressive candidate (and it was still a nail biter to the end). He won in 2004 because Kerry was even worse and there was a war on.

But take a look at this statement in the story from Daily Caller:

But one conservative who took RoveÂ’s side this week was Fox analyst Brit Hume.

“Look, if you’re running for president, you don’t want to get into a fight with Karl Rove,” he said. “That makes no sense.”

First off, I am not sure I would call Brit Hume a “conservative”, he is not a flaming liberal like most of the Fox staff but I don’t think he qualifies as a conservative. And secondly, how does a warning to not get into a fight with Rove during an election taking Rove’s side? Now that truly “makes no sense”.

7

Remember the TSA agent who wrote the suggestive note to the woman with the dildo?

Well the TSA has located him and he faces “disciplinary action”. At the old place where I worked this type of action was virtually guaranteed instant firing, no questions asked. This is the difference between the government and private business. The government doesnÂ’t have to worry about EEOC and shyster lawyers. They donÂ’t have to make a profit and any fines and settlements are covered by the tax payer.  ArenÂ’t we so glad that Hillary nationalized the airport security business?

8

Someone made a joke about "jumbo shrimp" oxymoron the other day. Get a load of this in Charleston.

9

VDH thinks AGW is dead

I wish that were true but it is not. We still have nearly every Democommie still pushing it and even several “moderate” Republicans are still on the bandwagon. A lot of us have known after careful investigation that this crap was a fraud from the very start. Vic says its dead because of climategate, the bad economy, and the onset of Obama green “crony-socialism” (I substituted for the offensive words).

He does not mention the CERN study that proves it is a fraud, and he doesnÂ’t mention that a horrendously bad bill did, in fact, pass the House.

Also, 8 “Republicans” voted for that bill. Anyone who has not read that bill (HR 2454) needs to because it does much more than simply limit and tax CO2 emissions.  Anyone who supported this POS should be drummed out of office and charged with treason because it would destroy this country if enacted as passed in the House.  This bill is why I am so down on Newt sitting on the couch with Pelosi supporting it. No person who supported this deserves to be called a Republican and rightly should not be deserved to be called a citizen.

Here are the 8 Republican traitors.

And one other thing to keep in mind with this. The Democrats NEVER abandon their major efforts to nationalize an industry. Look at Healthcare. They originally started on that all the way back with FDR. They tried again with Clinton. They got it now. This shit will be the same thing if the country doesnÂ’t collapse before hand. 

10 That's it folks.

11 And that Thor movie was actually pretty good. I didn't like what they did with the Loki charector but overall it was good. And the Moronettes will LOVE it.

12 Thanks Vic. Is everyone else sleeping in?

13 This would probably not be a good time for the Dems to start screwing around with the 2nd Amendment. People are not in a good mood these days.

14 Nope, just reading.

15 This would probably not be a good time for the Dems to start screwing around with the 2nd Amendment.

They avoid it on the surface now and go for stealth attacks.

16 Here are the 8 Republican traitors. Posted by: Vic No surprise here. They all come form very blue states.

17 Is everyone else sleeping in?

Usually takes a while for the Morons to get going in the morning. I have been up since midnight.

18 Thor's hammer
Smashed your car?
Best not mess with
Myanmar!
Burma Shave

19 THORSDAY!

Like a viking!

20 No surprise here. They all come form very blue states.

Posted by: macintx at October 27, 2011 07:10 AM (ucs8Y)

Notice one of them was our old friend who got beat the primary by the witch. I told ace that we lost that election before the primary, not because the witch got it.

21 Cutting pedants off at the pass: Thor's hammer's name actually is Mjölnir, Mjǫlnir, Mjollnir, Mjölner or Mjølner.

22 I have been up since midnight. Posted by: Vic Yikes! Hope you get a good nap in today. Feeling okay?

23 ...are they speaking of their husbands?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 27, 2011 07:11 AM (Lt/Za)

I started to post a link to the article about the couple who had their house fired upon by someone with a shotgun and it hit their 5 year old daughter. (In SC)

They cowered in a bedroom waiting on the cops who did get there in 9 min. Remember the old saying about cops being minutes away when seconds count.

They had a gun but got rid of it after their daughter was born. I'll take a wild guess on who wanted the gun gone.

24 Jailed Illegals Will Get Phone Number to Report Civil Rights Violations

25 Is everyone else sleeping in? Posted by: macintx at October 27, 2011 07:06 AM

After reading Vic's dose of morning cheer, what else is there to do but look for a how-to article on noose-tying and a coil of rope?

It's cold, rainy and dark, and the local paper is passing along news that we may get a branch of the "Occupy" weenies here. Oh, joy. On the other hand, that makes the prospect of soon-to-arrive wintry conditions downright appealing!

Still, it is yet another day when Osama Obama retains his title as THE stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure!

26 Yikes! Hope you get a good nap in today. Feeling okay?

Posted by: macintx at October 27, 2011 07:13 AM (ucs8Y)

I woke up, this port-a-cath is uncomfortable when it has stuff going through it. I'll probably nod off later.

27 Posted by: No Whining at October 27, 2011 07:13 AM

Is that how you say "Craftsman" in Viking lingo?

28

The Premature Coronation of Romney

29 28 After reading Vic's dose of morning cheer, what else is there to do but look for a how-to article on noose-tying and a coil of rope? Funny MrScribbler! But I know what you mean. I myself handle Vic's morning updates better than doom. Doom is too much doom for me so I usually find something else to do.

30

Well, getting hammered first thing in the morning sounds like a viable plan to me. Unfortunately, there is salt waiting to be mined.

Tonight will be different, though...

31 Posted by: No Whining at October 27, 2011 07:19 AM (Y9JPs)

I only watched 5 min of F&F this morning. In 5 minutes they had to bring up that BS CNN poll at least 5 or 6 times. They were kissing his ass so hard I'm sure Romney's hemorrhoids felt it hundreds of miles away.

32 21
43% of US Women Say Household Has A Gun

...are they speaking of their husbands?

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 27, 2011 07:11 AM (Lt/Za)

The bad news in that poll is that there is a huge spike in Dems arming up. ZeroHedge has a few charts.

How do you get to Carnegie Hall? Practice, practice, practice.

33 ArenÂ’t we so glad that Hillary nationalized the airport security business?

Whose presidential point of agenda:

* Prevent the TSA from forcing Americans to either be groped or ogled just to travel on an airplane and ultimately abolish the unconstitutional agency.

Not from Perry. Ideas aren't all that Matter given a Texas sized letdown.

34 25
Why Barky is the Despair and Decline Presnit
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 27, 2011 07:14 AM (Lt/Za)

Barky has the fecal Midas touch - everything he touches turn to shit.

35 Funny MrScribbler! But I know what you mean. I myself handle Vic's morning updates better than doom. Doom is too much doom for me so I usually find something else to do.

I do try to put a little humor in some of it.

36 Oh and for Vic -- Old Man On The Back Porch
 
Why? Just because, that's why.

37 Vic, so sorry you have to go through all this. Still praying for you and Miko. Is this your last round of chemo?

38

They had a gun but got rid of it after their daughter was born. I'll take a wild guess on who wanted the gun gone.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 07:16 AM (YdQQY)

It's the opposite in my house. Husband is from  NYC and since he lived in a mafia neighborhood never worried about safety at all. They could leave their doors open and the children could walk about unchaperoned. My family, not me so much, is from the south with military background. I want guns, he's freaked by them. I haven't pushed it but I'll get one soon. I'll have to keep him away from it. Guns and nervous nellies don't mix.

39 Zucotti Park OWS cutting off homeless and ex-con moochers from food

Kitchen workers feel "overworked and underappreciated".

Hahahaha!
[link goes to JammieWearing Fool]

40 I see they didn't miss the knuckle dragging angle on the guns in the home story:

Education level plays a role in whether someone owns a gun. According to Gallup, 29% of college graduates say they personally own a gun, compared with 40% of those without a college degree.

Morning, everybody.

41 Is this your last round of chemo?

Thanks but no. I'll be getting this until the Spring.

42 Oh and for Vic -- Old Man On The Back Porch

LOL, that's me except on the front porch (North side of the house).

43 35 Some of us daydream, smiling, about Dems with guns in their hands.

44 I want guns, he's freaked by them.

Now that is rare even for a guy from NYC.

45

At least the end of that last link gives us a bit of hope,

 Fortunately, what China lacks, the United States still has in abundance – the spirit of individual freedom, the love of liberty, a sense of justice and fair play, freedom of speech and worship, and an instinctive desire to act as a powerful force for good on the world stage. America must continue to lead the world, for the alternative is too grim to contemplate. But it can only do so on the foundations of a strong economy with low taxes and limited regulation, free of the shackles of towering debt as well as the deathly hand of big government.

It's really too bad that none of the current Pubbiecans are saying this. We really need to do some political purging around here.

And Vic, hope you're well. And Moki too, wherever you are. We need all the Morons we can get.

46 I do try to put a little humor in some of it.
Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 07:25 AM

Yeah, Vic. Just like the warden adding a little deodorizer to the cyanide gas that Death Row Dude is about to inhale!

This is why you "shoot the messenger": because he's within range! The bad guy has already done his deed (and is snoozing at the White House).

Now that I'm into the second cup of coffee, I really appreciate your headline posts, Vic.

47 Speaking of guns this am... I am thinking about getting a conceal and carry permit. Not so much that I want to but more that I can. Is that lopsided motivation or what?

48 With all the intra-moron strife over which candidate to back, it is sometimes handy to recall which one we want gone. This video is not particularly well done but it does help refresh the memory of what a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure our current CiC is.

49 I want guns, he's freaked by them. I haven't pushed it but I'll get one soon. I'll have to keep him away from it. Guns and nervous nellies don't mix.

Take him to the range, dagny, and show him how to use it. Who knows what it might lead to? Most of the morons around here think girls with guns are hawt, why should he be any different?

50 39 Oh and for Vic -- Old Man On The Back Porch
 Why? Just because, that's why.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 27, 2011 07:26 AM (ENKCw)

Great song, but Preznints, it's pre-scrip-tion.

Your head doesn't do that freaky Jack-O-Lantern thingy, does it, Vic?

51 Canadian dollar is back up to par with the US...I guess Ta Bernak is printing money again?

52 Education level plays a role in whether someone owns a gun. According to Gallup, 29% of college graduates say they personally own a gun, compared with 40% of those without a college degree.

We really should start breaking out education level based on degree.  If you have a degree in stupid shit like communications or sports management, you ain't educated.

53 Zucotti Park OWS cutting off homeless and ex-con moochers from food
Posted by: museisluse at October 27, 2011 07:30 AM (4Lj43)

Maybe they are and maybe they aren't. Those are ex-cons, after all, and they can be ... persuasive.

54 Your head doesn't do that freaky Jack-O-Lantern thingy, does it, Vic?

I tried to think of a snappy answer for that but I'm not firing on all cylinders this morning.

55 I saw that article but when I read this in the first paragraph;

Two politicos who sued Arianna Huffington and her partner for stealing their idea for the Huffington Post will get to go forward after a New York judge refused to throw out the lawsuit.

I knew it really didn't mean a whole lot. It takes a damn whole lot for a Judge in NY to throw out a damn civil case.

56 Vic hang in there. Good to see your headlines this morning.

57 56 The next thing you know those owsers will be passing out registration forms and requiring IDs and background checks.
 
Why oh why is the Man keepin' us down?
 
Down with The System!

58 Yeah, hanging in. And speaking of porches, great weather this week for porches and I can't drink anything cold. (or even handle frozen stuff). There are some weird side effects to this shit.

59 #OccupyOccupyWallStreet

60 Dagny - once you get your guns he will become involved. My husband is from Ohio (I know why did a Texas gal marry a Yankee when there are so many good loookiing guys here, but that's another story). I have a 12 gauge I bought after Obambi got in office and am looking at a 20 gauge for skeet and my concealed carry. He is starting to talking about going to the gun range with me...

61 Imagine my displeasure last evening when I belatedly turned to Fox and instead of the World Series, there was an androgynous chorus prancing about on stage singing Let's Do the Time Warp Again. Might have been Glee, for all I know; found something to watch right quick.

62 I bought after Obambi got in office and am looking at a 20 gauge for skeet and my concealed carry.

20 gauge shotgun for concealed carry?

63 Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 07:47 AM (YdQQY)

There are a bunch of recipes for warm or hot drinks...but nothing beats a lowball glass, an ice cube and a large pour of something brown.

64 65 ... something else ...

Time to get some breakfast and get going to work.

65 Zsa Zsa Huffington Takes the Big One Up the Squeaker
Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 27, 2011 07:42 AM

Much as I would love to see Huffington's website vanish -- and see her at OWS, begging for food like the transients -- this suit is laughable.

No one has a patent or copyright on the concept of a news aggregation site. If that were possible, there would be no Drudge, no Breitbart, etc.

As Vic said, the suit continues because it's in an NYC court.

The plaintiffs would have had a better legal chance if they sued Huffington for being a stupid, loathsome parasite.

66 From the Zucotti food fight link:

Some protesters threatened that the high-end meals could be cut off completely if the vagrants and criminals donÂ’t disperse.

Remember that story a while back about the guy buying lobster and steak with food stamps? Seems the OWS crowd doesn't approve of such things either but their solution is to stop ALL lobster and steak.

67 but nothing beats a lowball glass, an ice cube and a large pour of something brown.

You got that right. LOL, wifey tried to get the pharmacist to say recommend no alcohol during our interview with her. Pharmacist oh no, its ok as long as he drinks it warm during the therapy and 48 hours afterwards.

68 Zucotti Park OWS cutting off homeless and ex-con moochers from food

Kitchen workers feel "overworked and underappreciated".

Subtitled: Utopia.. It doesn't mean what you think it means.

69 Morning all! Hey Vic, thanks for the news. I take your updates for granted, so my apologies for that, and my sincere thanks for your digging through news stuff so I don't have to! As for guns, we need to purchase soon too. My hubby prefers Glocks, I like the weight of the .357, but the kick is too hefty for my neck. But I think 9mm feel flimsy. Any suggestions?

70 25 Things You Don't Know About Me: Zooey Deschanel
http://tinyurl.com/3ldo87j

71 73 Kitchen workers feel "overworked and underappreciated".
Posted by: franksalterego at October 27, 2011 07:55 AM (9XykO)

Hey, we hear ya ...

72 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of miserable failure.

73 Oh yea, Happy Thirsty Thursday Morons!



I'll be at the bar

74 Well this is highly disturbing if true -- the Washington Times reports:
 
Word has leaked out that in its new budget, the Obama administration intends to terminate NASAÂ’s planetary exploration program. The Mars Science Lab Curiosity, being readied on the pad, will be launched, as will the nearly completed small MAVEN orbiter scheduled for 2013, but that will be it. No further missions to anywhere are planned.
 
My disgust with this administration knows no bounds.

75

Good Morning Morons!  Vic , thanks as always for the kick-start to the day.  Sorry you'be been up all night.  Hope you nap soon, and continued best wishes for better days ahead.

macintx; that's good enough rationale on CHL.  That's why I got mine 4 years ago.  I carry once in awhile, but mainly, I feel better having had the training and the awareness that comes with it, and too, if need be, I can legally carry. 

76 79 Well this is highly disturbing if true -- the Washington Times reports:
 Word has leaked out that in its new budget, the Obama administration intends to terminate NASAÂ’s planetary exploration program. 
My disgust with this administration knows no bounds.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 27, 2011 08:00 AM (ENKCw)

Funds will be diverted to a new NASA outreach program entitled, "Getting in Touch with Your Inner Fuzzy-Wuzzy Muzzie".

77 Any suggestions?

My wife shoots the .357 well. She had never fired a handgun before and I started her on a .357 with hot loads.

I have never fired a .40 cal Glock so I don't know how hard they kick. I have one of those cut down model colt .45 acp's and it kicks like a mule.  The hardest kicking pistol I ever shot was a .44 magnum with max loads.

But yes on the 9mm I am not impressed with the ballistics. Someone was talking about these new 5.6mm hot round pistols the other day. If you have access to a shooting range that will rent pistols for people to try out you may want to check in with one of those.

And aside from all that, if you are getting the weapon for home defense go with a shotgun, preferably one with as short a barrel as possible and still be legal. Ask for a "coach gun".

78 82
'I was called a basketball, a penguin, an Ewok, and I just didn't appreciate it.'
-Chaz Bono

What, no Jabba the Hut? You couldn't buy a higher caliber of bullies, Chazster?

79 Moki, may I say this...   call around and find a range that rents handguns.  Hopefully there will be one near you.  You guys could shoot some of each to see what you'd prefer.   .357's can shoot .38's for practice and .38+P defensive round would still be more managable than full .357 loads and be acceptable.  Too easy to get into all the pros/cons of calibers & pistol vs revolver; only to say, you can own more than one.... 

80 42 Zucotti Park OWS cutting off homeless and ex-con moochers from food
Posted by: museisluse at October 27, 2011 07:30 AM (4Lj43)

Why do the moochers hate the moochers?

81

Posted by: Doctor Fish at October 27, 2011 08:04 AM (Lt/Za)

what's funny is that Chaz is acting like a whiny little bitchy girl more then the man she/he wants to be

82 As for guns, we need to purchase soon too. My hubby prefers Glocks, I like the weight of the .357, but the kick is too hefty for my neck. But I think 9mm feel flimsy. Any suggestions?

Posted by: moki at October 27, 2011 07:56 AM (dZmFh)

Buy a 357, shoot 38's out of it. Gives you options and only a revolver can self clear in a FTF situation. Simplicity of operation and big holes.

83

I take your updates for granted, so my apologies for that, and my sincere thanks for your digging through news stuff so I don't have to!

you folks really got to get yourselves some online news feeds

84 Morning!  Thanks for all the news, Vic.  Hope you're feeling well.

25 Things You Don't Know About Me: Zooey Deschanel
http://tinyurl.com/3ldo87j
Posted by: Zakn
..............
I swear when I first read this one I read "LAP" instead of "TAP"!

24. I took six years of tap-dancing lessons.

85 chaz is a tough guy and he doesn't like being called cute little names...../

86

so I wasnt here for that CNN poll that had Romney up in all the 1st 4 states but I bet the Romneybots we're all over it

I think the poll is either A) Outlier, very possible since CNN's polling is not Historically the best or B) showing the beggining of the fall in the polls for Cain as folks start to realize who they're supporting

either way it's just 1 poll so let's not start making news out of it

87 You know Moki, I was just sitting here thinking about those new hot round small caliber pistols. Frankly I don't see how they will develop much stopping power in a short barreled handgun. The rifles like the .223 (AR-15) develop their stopping power in a 20" barrel which allows the round to develop very high velocity.

That is simply not going to work in a barrel of 6" or less. Even with the fastest burning powder I have ever used (Hecules Bullseye) I don't see much velocity being developed.

88

Posted by: phoenixgirl ready to drink the perry flavor-aid at October 27, 2011 08:14 AM (SH3gZ)

and I dont know how he can whine about the Judges, I dont watch DWTS but everytime I see the highlights I cant help but notice that even w/ subpar scores they glowingly talked about EVERY contestant after every dance

89 Dr. Patrick Michaels of the Cato Institute and George Mason University discusses key ideas from his book, Climate Coup: Global Warming's Invasion of Our Government and Our Lives. A self-described skeptic on the issue of global warming, he is a past president of the American Association of State Climatologists, and has authored many books and papers on climate change.

Climate Coup: The Ultimate Bootleggers and Baptist Coalition? (video) Patrick Michaels discusses the problem of the climate-industrial complex. Now that the tide has turned away from the "consensus view" of global climate change due to problems of corruption and lack of public support -- how do we make the climate-industrial complex go away? After all, the powerful Bootleggers, Baptists and Bureaucrats triangulation is still very much in place. And presumably the gravy train still rolls.


Editor's note
As nations argued over global warming policies at the Kyoto Protocol, PERC senior fellow Bruce Yandle was busy bringing new insights to the discussion. In a PERC Policy Series from 1998, “Bootleggers, Baptists, and Global Warming,” he shed light on puzzling features of the international negotiations over climate change. [Puzzling? That economic feasibility requires an "affordable" marketable profit, who'da thought.]

Yandle applied his “bootleggers and Baptists” theory of regulation to the global warming debate. In the South, laws make it illegal to sell alcohol on Sunday. These laws are maintained by an inadvertent coalition of bootleggers and Baptists. The Baptists (and other religious denominations) provide the public outcry against liquor on Sunday, while the bootleggers (who sell liquor on Sunday) quietly persuade legislatures and town councils to maintain the closing laws. Yandle explained that something similar was happening with the treaty negotiations over climate change; the Baptists are the environmental groups, and the bootleggers are the companies, trade associations, and nations that are seeking favors through global warming negotiations. Twelve years later, on the heels of the Copenhagen Accord, bootleggers and Baptists continue to embrace Kyoto prospects. The good news is that the collapse in Copenhagen provides the world with a chance to step back and reevaluate the politics and science behind the debate—to find a better way than the Kyoto Protocol process.

"Bootleggers, Baptists, and Global Warming" in Retrospect
By Bruce Yandle [Summer 2010], Professor of Economics Emeritus at Clemson University, Distinguished Adjunct Professor at the Mercatus Center at George Mason University, and senior fellow at PERC.

On reading my October 1998 PERC Policy Series, several things jumped out at me. First the struggle I described using the bootleggers and Baptists theory of regulation to explain the Kyoto Protocol process has hardly changed one iota in 12 years. Somewhat unexpected coalitions of environmentalists and energy producers still sing together from green hymn books that call for final implementation of the Kyoto-blessed cap-and-trade greenhouse gas controls. However, there is a difference to be observed in how the singers make their music: The interest groups have learned to harmonize better. For example, a U.S. Climate Action Partnership, formed by some leading industrial firms and environmental groups, lobbies strenuously in support of federal cap-and-trade legislation. The industrial players are firms that will gain market share in resulting restructured energy markets. They are green in more ways than one—as in money. Contributions rise for the environmental groups when they sing in harmony. Bootleggers and Baptists will continue to have a field day while celebrating Kyoto prospects, but final implementation of any accord will not come until developing world incomes are higher and the cost of CO2 control is lower. In the end, achieving a global accord is about being green, as in money.

PERC/

90 Thanks for the suggestions y'all. This is the go-to forum for all things weapony. Have a great day everyone. Off to the salt mines.

91 50 Speaking of guns this am... I am thinking about getting a conceal and carry permit. Not so much that I want to but more that I can. Is that lopsided motivation or what?

If you ever start carrying, you feel undressed if you don't.  Get  it, carry it.

92

 This is the go-to forum for all things weapony.

christ we're gonna get people killed if that's the truth

93 Mornin Vic. I am a devoted fan of Bullseye but it can't make a thirty two auto anything other than an 800 fps maybe gun.
Look at ft-lbs.

94

The saga continues: Your tax dollars end up in Democrat coffers.

Obama lies. Turns out Obama takes all sorts of dirty lobbyist money.

95 author i do watch the show and the judges score the dancing based on the technical moves in the dance...which can seem pretty rough, considering these are amateurs.....but they always point out something nice about the celebrity, like what they are wearing our the effort the "star" is putting forth.....during the first shows.....the judges bent over backward to make chaz feel welcome and to let her know how much they supported her and how wonderful it was that someone like her exisited for all the other people out there like her.....so for her to be mad now is just ridiculous.....sour grapes.....

96 92 so I wasnt here for that CNN poll that had Romney up in all the 1st 4 states but I bet the Romneybots we're all over it I think the poll is either A) Outlier, very possible since CNN's polling is not Historically the best or B) showing the beggining of the fall in the polls for Cain as folks start to realize who they're supporting either way it's just 1 poll so let's not start making news out of it Posted by: RINO There was some heated postings yesterday about this. Many getting that "defeatist" attitude over the poll. All I get out of it for certain is Romney is very weak and by no means our nominee.

97 I am a devoted fan of Bullseye but it can't make a thirty two auto anything other than an 800 fps maybe gun.
Look at ft-lbs.

What is the barrel length in a .32 auto, 2" max?  That is the problem. Also, why you use Bullseye vs something like 2400 which is what I used in my 6" .357.

98 Besides, who wants a .32 auto?

99

All I get out of it for certain is Romney is very weak and by no means our nominee.

I think they're all weak and by no means none are our nominee

100 Besides, who wants a .32 auto?

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 08:27 AM (YdQQY)

It's a great little gun for when you are lightly dressed in shorts sandals and a t-shirt. A Beretta .32 auto with silvertip hollow points; fits easily into a cargo pants pocket.

Just don't shoot at anything more than 20 feet away. Yeah, 2" barrel.

101

If you can read this you are the resistance.

http://tinyurl.com/Hey-got-a-light

102

Just don't shoot at anything more than 20 feet away. Yeah, 2" barrel.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 27, 2011 08:34 AM (ENKCw)

are you guys like a NAZI blog?

103 I think the poll is either A) Outlier, very possible since CNN's polling is not Historically the best or B) showing the beggining of the fall in the polls for Cain as folks start to realize who they're supporting

either way it's just 1 poll so let's not start making news out of it

Posted by: RINO

Mitt was polling fantastically in all the early states in 2007 as well.  I remember the Mittbots saying he was going to crush in Iowa and NH.

If I had to make an insane prediction which probably won't come true, I think Gingrich is the McCain this year.

104 Last night, the fucking vermin from Zucotti woke me up out of a very deep sleep. I. Am. Not. Amused. To quote that great super hero (and Joo) Ben Grimm "it's clobberin' time."

105 A Beretta .32 auto with silvertip hollow points; fits easily into a cargo pants pocket.

My cutdown Colt .45 will fit in my jeans back pocket. It doesn't do more than 800 fps either but it knocks down what you hit.

Anyway, didn't Perry shoot that coyote with a .32? If he did I am damn surprised it killed him. I have seen wild dogs hit with 00 buckshot get up and run after being hit.

106

If you can read this you are the resistance.

Posted by: Gordon Freeman - Half Life 2 at October 27, 2011 08:36 AM (9659l)

I think we just found out how Wrath Of Satan guy joined OWS

107 I just saw a preview for some sort of mythic gods battle mythic heroes movie and the thought occurred to me, "When is Barky going to get on his Hollywood pals' cases for using CGI to replace the hordes of extras formerly used to recreate huge battle scenes?"

108 Tellyawhut, like him or not, O'Reilly did a long segnent on OWS last night and laid out exactly who they are, who is behind them, and what they are about. He did a service for his country.

109 This Forbes article on how Cain can win is interesting.

110

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 27, 2011 08:36 AM (FkKjr)

I can see that happening though w/ Gingrich, w/ every anti-Romney candidate failing he could end up being the alternative

there's a reason I didn't join in on the Gingrich bashing after his campaign was in the crapper back in the early summer (though he deserves bashing in other areas), I knew the guy could come back. If he'd comeback good enough to get the nod? I'm doubtful but we'll see

111 GnuBreed #79 Washington Times:

terminate NASAÂ’s planetary exploration program... for 2013, but that will be it. No further missions to anywhere are planned.

Beyond expecting his own re-election (2012), the termination of NASA's reason for existing while not terminating the bureaucracy points to NASA's revisionist "mission" today being the implementation of Obama agenda. Beyond providing the Muslim Brotherhood Islamic Jihad most favored status, go figure international implications given NASA technology. NASA has become another US tax funded enterprise in the hands of globalists intent on destroying sovereign nations and denying not only rule of law, but human rights.

Given that scenario...hm.

112 On the Newt thingy, has anyone seen where he has at least tried to walk back the couch episode with Pelosi?

As I said earlier, if you read that House bill that passed it will make your hair stand on end. anyone agreeing with that Cap Trade BS has no buisness being a citizen, much less a Republican.

113

Posted by: Do I know you? at October 27, 2011 08:39 AM (OlN4e)

as I've stated before, my FOX News source says O'Reilly is one of us...he just pretends to be some above it all independent. The ego though is def. real.

114

anyone agreeing with that Cap Trade BS has no buisness being a citizen, much less a Republican.

oh yes I forgot the purity test

*sighs*

115

I looked into getting my pistol permit a little over a year ago.  I even went so far as to take the required course.  In CT, permits are conceal/carry.

My primary reason for getting a handgun was for home defense.  I can't carry at work.  There's a company policy prohibiting employees from having a gun at work or in company vehicles (I drive one).

That leaves carrying on the weekends.  Other than going shopping at the wholesale club with the wife, when I'm out on the weekend, at some point I will have a cocktail or two.  For obvious reasons, I wouldn't want a handgun on me then.

Finally, the cost of obtaining the actual permit was damn near the price of a moderately priced gun.

I went with a shotgun, instead.

116 If I had to make an insane prediction which probably won't come true, I think Gingrich is the McCain this year.

Hmmm... I wonder if the Gingrich campaign's internal polling is indicating this trend because his campaign is calling and sending emails to me like crazy. It started about 2 weeks ago.

Last ditch effort or encouraging a yet unseen trend? Time will tell.

117 oh yes I forgot the purity test

Read the GD bill. This has nothing to do with fking purity.

118 Anyway, didn't Perry shoot that coyote with a .32?
 
Nope. A Ruger .38.

119 Nope. A Ruger .38.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 27, 2011 08:44 AM (ENKCw)

OK, I thought I read it was .32 with laser sights.

120 No Whining #113 teh funny

"When is Barky going to get on his Hollywood pals' cases for using CGI to replace the hordes of extras formerly used to recreate huge battle scenes?"

Obama just visited Hollywood to buy him some of that CGI mojo for his re-election campaign lackluster non-crowds. Fill in the blanks, yes we can!

121

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 08:43 AM (YdQQY)

are you suggesting I haven't read that bill? I stayed up all night and day to read the Obamacare monstrosity. I read the Cap & Trade bill, it sucks ass...major ass. I wouldnt have voted for it. but I dont expect a couple disagreements to define a person's record.

122 People raise hell about the Obamacare bill but the damn Cap and Trade bill was ten times worse as far as total impact on the country went but you heard very damn little about it.

123

Morning, all!

From the sidebar - could it be true?  Are they actually trying to clear out the hive of scum and villainy that IS Zuccotti Park? 

124 How many disagreements does it take before you defines someones record?

125 but I dont expect a couple disagreements to define a person's record.

I thought it amounted to treason. It is an automatic disqualifier for me.

126

If I had to make an insane prediction which probably won't come true, I think Gingrich is the McCain this year.

i'll tell you what, if Gingrich wins the nomination every GOP potential nominee from now on should try their best to im0plode their campaign early so they can do their little comeback story because 2 straight come from behinds (and yes I know I walked right into that) victories will be interesting developments as far as GOP primary History.

127

as I've stated before, my FOX News source says O'Reilly is one of us...he just pretends to be some above it all independent. The ego though is def. real.

Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 08:42 AM

MY "FOX News source" tells me O'Reilly is a self-centered blowhard whose motto is "we're looking out for...ME."

Who gives a shit if he's a "secret conservative" or secret Zoroastrian or secret nudist? It is his public stance and ego that make him an unreliable and ultimately unwatchable boob who has spent too much time gazing lovingly at his image in the mirror.

128 It is an automatic disqualifier for me.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 08:48 AM (YdQQY)

the real question w/ you Vic is, what ISNT a disqualifier for you? heh

129

Posted by: MrScribbler at October 27, 2011 08:49 AM (YjjrR)

LMAO

I watch him in doses, his ego is very real and very annoying

but then again I got a big ego so maybe I'm just trying to stand up to a fellow egomaniac

130 How many disagreements does it take before you defines someones record?

Posted by: GMB at October 27, 2011 08:48 AM (wY55N)

I want you to research the Indiana Senator up for re-election in 2012, that asswipe has no room being in the Republican party

131 126
Obama just visited Hollywood to buy him some of that CGI mojo for his re-election campaign lackluster non-crowds. Fill in the blanks, yes we can!
Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 08:45 AM (lpWVn)

Yup, he could attempt to wage a blue screen campaign from now on by moving into Wag the Dog territory. I'd almost buy it, but he wants the adulation of a crowd; he needs the adulation of a crowd.

132

but then again I got a big ego so maybe I'm just trying to stand up to a fellow egomaniac

Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 08:50 AM (yAor6)

oops

up for* not up to

we need an editing system in these comments

133 that asswipe has no room being in the Republican party

Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 08:52 AM (yAor6)

 

That would be my opinion of Mr. Romney.

134 I guess you haven't read my posts. Being a supporter of AGW and gun control knocks you off my list. That leaves I think about 4 candidates. Unfortunately one of those went off the Gardacil choo-choo train and dropped off.

Newt takes a hit on several fronts anyway; AGW/Pelosi, the Ryan budget busting when we were trying to get it passed, the support of Dede Scruntafoza, and a personal life that indicates he can not be trusted anywhere past the front door.

135 I thought it amounted to treason. It is an automatic disqualifier for me.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 08:48 AM (YdQQY)

The problem is everybody in this race has already hit an automatic disqualifier.  Now we must choose he who has sinned the least.

I ain't saying that's Gingrich, but in a comparison of sins, where does he stand?

136 Monty doom up

137   92, 102
All I get out of it for certain is Romney is very weak and by no means our nominee.

His '08 campaign spent his own millions$ to buy his own microphone poll. The extablishment that backed "electable" McCain is backing Romney, so he needn't spend his own cash '12 this time around given corporatist and Party Leadership financing and propaganda support. Despite "money talks", the "promise them anything, just get their votes" remains malleable Mitt's recorded platform that represents the Republican Party Leaderships'.

138

I guess you haven't read my posts. Being a supporter of AGW and gun control knocks you off my list.

I HAVE read your posts Vic, what makes you think I havent with all the crap we've given each other. heh

139 24. I took six years of tap-dancing lessons.

It's called a MA in Psychology

140

Posted by: didn't take long at October 27, 2011 08:56 AM (lpWVn)

certaintly helps when the party is backing you and it also helps when the usual "don't elect the frontrunner" types like Hannity & Coulter are behind you too

141 I'd almost buy it, but he wants the adulation of a crowd; he needs the adulation of a crowd.
Posted by: No Whining

And where the crowd is most gullible, he can buy that adulation as seen on any school campus, regardless of students' ages. Obama's first educational effort as potus was his live broadcast speech to all students in America. Elementary students are told they are "little Democrats" and see their oldest exemplars in college adoring Teh Uno.

142 Dagny,

The trick to to show him what you look like wearing a thigh holster...and nothing else.

143 Thorsday . . . well that's just impossible to resist.

Vodka-so-cold-it-pours-like-syrup and gravlox for everyone!
(Except Vic who, for the time being, is offered hot cranberry juice/vodka/cinnamon stick.  Its delicious!)

And Vic, really appreciate the morning news links w/summaries, they're a nice way to bring in the morning.  Sending best wishes and prayers to you and Moki, it must be a very difficult ordeal.

144 A late night discussion on Chinese expansion occurred last night.  I maintained that the Chinese would expand into Central Asia in order to create pressure on India and Russia. This morning I see that the Chinese want to base troops in Northern Pakistan.  Not a good sign.

145 124 Anyway, didn't Perry shoot that coyote with a .32?
 
Nope. A Ruger .38.

 

Close.  It was a Ruger LCP .380 with laser sight

http://tinyurl.com/Ruger-LCP-380

http://tinyurl.com/A-story-on-it

146 The problem is everybody in this race has already hit an automatic disqualifier.  Now we must choose he who has sinned the least.

Not all of them have hit one of those. Romney has a host of them, Huntsman has a lot, Newt has one, and Bachmann has one. But her's is really a culmination of crazy that peaked at the Gardacil thing.

147 Would I be out of bounds if I called Mitt a flip flopping clusterfuck of misreble rino?

148 >>but I dont expect a couple disagreements to define a person's record.

Posted by: RINO Vice President For Life AuthorLMendez, Formerly YRM, Who Supports The Ban Of Curious at October 27, 2011 08:46 AM (yAor6)

You would do well to repeat Twain's quote about a fool and his mouth before posting about 75% of your "youngest commenter" ignorance. You might have changed your name but it's still all too often very obvious. 

149 Sending best wishes and prayers to you and Moki, it must be a very difficult ordeal.

Thanks, I used to keep a bottle of Schapps and Anisette in the freezer for that "syrupy" flow goodness.

I took it out a few months ago because I had gone almost exclusively to bourbon and they were taking up room.

150

"Word has leaked out that in its new budget, the Obama administration intends to terminate NASAÂ’s planetary exploration program. The Mars Science Lab Curiosity, being readied on the pad, will be launched, as will the nearly completed small MAVEN orbiter scheduled for 2013, but that will be it. No further missions to anywhere are planned."

They had to protect and increase the AGW and Muslim outreach budgets.  Maybe a reduction in actual science is Muslim outreach.

151 Zooey Deschanel needs to be dressed up like a schoolgirl and spanked repeatedly. 

152 155  Bourbon = fine by me.

153 Not all of them have hit one of those. Romney has a host of them, Huntsman has a lot, Newt has one, and Bachmann has one. But her's is really a culmination of crazy that peaked at the Gardacil thing.

Posted by: Vic at October 27, 2011 09:09 AM (YdQQY)

Herm Cain scares the hell out of me purely based on how he campaigns.  I think he speaks too candidly and has faulty political instincts.  Since he has no record, the fact he keeps making mistakes in what he says (his only selling point) is worrisome.

Rick Perry is probably the best choice, but as silly as these debates are, you have to do good in them or people will write you off.  And the 'heartless' gaffe really hurt him.  The race really is Rick Perry's to lose, and I worry that's what he's doing.

154 159  The race really is Rick Perry's to lose  Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

Agree.

155 Herm Cain scares the hell out of me purely based on how he campaigns.

He kinda worries me too, especially when he goes on FNS and allows Kommie Kris to bait him into saying something stupid, but he hasn't hit one bad enough for me to kick him off the list yet.

He did come damn close with jumping on that BS rock non-troversy though.

156 Zooey Deschanel needs to be dressed up like a schoolgirl and spanked repeatedly.

Though it pains me so, I volunteer for this somber duty.

157 Huntsman, Johnson and Paul are all libertarians who just have no clue on foreign policy and a whole host of issues.

I wouldn't exactly call Huntsman a libertarian. If it wasn't for Gun Control and Right to life he would be just as liberal as Romney.

158 It was more charitable then waste of oxygen.............

LOL, spits on screen.

True dat

159

"Maybe he can be cajoled into adopting a "secure the border first" mantra. "

Perry stated in June in the Houston Chronicle that there should be no immigration reform until the border is secured.

160

At a million-dollar San Francisco fundraiser today, President Obama warned his recession-battered supporters that if he loses the 2012 election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance in America.

“The one thing that we absolutely know for sure is that if we don’t work even harder than we did in 2008, then we’re going to have a government that tells the American people, ‘you are on your own,’” Obama told a crowd of 200 donors over lunch at the W Hotel.

The man certainly knows how to frame the message. Nanny-state or neutered.

161 Churchill described communism as: "organizing the dregs against the middle class."

162 167

"Maybe he can be cajoled into adopting a "secure the border first" mantra. "

Perry stated in June in the Houston Chronicle that there should be no immigration reform until the border is secured.

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Yes....and Perry has been saying this for years. He has also been spending hundreds of millions of his state's dollars on securing the border.....something that no other candidate has ever done.

163 If I can require you to buy health insurance because it is expensive to pay for non-insured, what next: you have to maintain a certain body fat percentage because its more expensive to care for fat people vs. skinny people?

I have no doubt that this is coming down the pike one day.

164

173....Yes, but that was the point in the exercise. Each candidate has flaws....what is the more excusable and what is the least excusable.

Moreover....it boils down to this: Do we take them at their word? Or look at what they've done. 

If we take them at their word....then flip-flopping should be an automatic disqualifier.

165 Thanks Gabriel, for the Thorsday picture! I loved that movie.

166 This must be the one day a month a picture is posted that the straight females can appreciate.

167    146 RINO...

The American Constitution has its own draw of public support across the globe, given that so many populations choose to immigrate to America.

Prostitutes don't speak for me.

Coulter? Ezekial 22:27 Her officials within her are like wolves tearing their prey; they shed blood and kill people to make unjust gain.

Hannity is owned for his bark. "From the least to the greatest, all are greedy for gain; prophets and priests alike, all practice deceit." Jeremiah 6:13

Hannity washes his hands by touting fiscal conservatism yet bloodies them all over again promoting military interventionism and the empowerment of authoritarianism. Without his sponsors, he'd lose his status and livelihood, after all. And we're all FOR jobs.

That Coulter and Hannity stand on their Catholicism to legitimize their politics legitimizes Biblical referential application. John 14 Read the chapter to go figure what Jesus said contrasted against Hannity's application of "Let not your heart be troubled"--as if trusting Hannity or Mark Levin or the Heritage Foundation or any religious politician or GWB-faith-based-institution was Christ's message. That John 14 would be anyone's binky foundation for faith in neo-"conservative" military interventionism is insane.

Lest morons misunderstand, there is no better than David's legendary challenge to King Saul and Saul's Army and his own brothers in the Army in learning the moral of a story. Following 1 Samuel 4, beyond 1 Samuel 8:6 and 1 Sam 13:13, the kingdom was dumber than dumb, being without armament when attacked, having exported the tooling/machining, 1 Samuel 13:19-22. And so the story thus concludes with a miracle achieved through faith.

1 Samuel 17

Finally, David asked the men standing near him, “What will be done for the man who kills this Philistine and removes this disgrace from Israel? Who is this uncircumcised Philistine that he should defy the armies of the living God?” David tells King Saul, "Your servant has killed both the lion and the bear; this uncircumcised Philistine will be like one of them, because he has defied the armies of the living God. The Lord who delivered me from the paw of the lion and the paw of the bear will deliver me from the hand of this Philistine.” Saul said to David, “Go, and the Lord be with you.”And Saul arms David with his own armament. But David declines, relying on nature alone, unskilled in a warrior's armament. “I cannot go in these,” he said to Saul, “because I am not used to them.” So he took them off. Then he took his staff in his hand, chose five smooth stones from the stream, put them in the pouch of his shepherdÂ’s bag and, with his sling in his hand, approached the giant Philistine who despised him. “Am I a dog, that you come at me with sticks?” And the Philistine cursed David by his gods. “Come here,” he said, “and IÂ’ll give your flesh to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field!” David said to the Philistine, “You come against me with sword and spear and javelin, but I come against you in the name of the Lord Almighty, the God of the armies of Israel, whom you have defied. This day the Lord will hand you over to me, and IÂ’ll strike you down and cut off your head. Today I will give the carcasses of the Philistine army to the birds of the air and the beasts of the earth, and the whole world will know that there is a God in Israel. All those gathered here will know that it is not by sword or spear that the Lord saves; for the battle is the LordÂ’s, and he will give all of you into our hands.”  And David the youth slew and decapitated Goliath.

Leaping ahead to the stem of Jesse, Jesus' parting words (oft repeated by Hannity regardless of context) were to Love God and each other as Jesus Loved. John 14 Directions in achieving the miracle? Absolutely. Interventionist wars? Not at all. Pacifism? Not so. Defense of God, country and family under invasion attack, as with young David? Yes. Self defense as with young David, blessed by Samuel? Yes. Abuses of power as with Saul's and David's kingly excesses? Murder and lust, every "good" king/kingdom's downfall? Requires repentance. Kinetic Military exported warfare? No. Wars to promote globalist corporatism? No.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Matthew 7:15 Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 2 Corinthians 11:13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.

168 Perry stated in June in the Houston Chronicle that there should be no immigration reform until the border is secured.

Incentives.

169

"didn't take long "

That was after spending $400 million in State funds on border security.

I see the Ronulans are up early today.

170 Zucotti Park OWS cutting off homeless and ex-con moochers from food

We're here to help the downtrodden masses achieve a better standard of liv--hey! Get the hell out of here, you bum!!

171 When is Barky going to get on his Hollywood pals' cases for using CGI to replace the hordes of extras formerly used to recreate huge battle scenes?"

Well, when he was in Detroit, there was a question on whether he was in a "factory" or in front of a "green screen" so it might be in the beta testing phase as we speak.

172 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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