1 monday

2 Who wants to see it?

3 Awake early. 

4 nicedeb & verumserum lift
"NeoCom" description of WallStreet Hobos the next generation

5

Roseanne Barr cries for attention

Roseanne Barr: Behead Bankers, Rich Who Won't Give Up Wealth

6

Judd Gregg calls for "dramatic tax reform".

When a politician calls for “immigration reform” what he really means is “amnesty”. When he calls for “tax reform” what he means is “tax increases”.

Good old Judd Gregg he who Obama nominated for the shit post of commerce secretary and who was stupid enough to almost accept it. He who’s last year in office gained him an ACU rating of 73, firmly in the RINO category. He gives all kinds of shit in this article to justify why some programs need to have taxes raised and others lowered. IOW, its not reform, its just goring some other ox. The only “fair” tax is a flat tax and ANY time you start jiggering tax rates to promote one type of activity over another you are positively inviting corruption. Tax rates should be about one thing and one thing only, raising revenue.

7

Cain is stepping on his dick again

Once again he allows asshole Wallace to bait him into making stupid comments. This one involves the manufactured non-traversy over the “evil rock” on the Perry hunting grounds. What is it with him and Kommie Kris Wallace?

8

Brit Hume demonstrates why it would have been nice if he had stayed in the 6 pm slot at Fox

‘People who are chasing after Gov. Christie remind me of a pack of dogs chasing a car’

9

The Examiner blames Wal-Mart for $5 debit card fee

Dickhead Durbin is the one who inserted it into Dodd-Frank. But according to the Examiner it was Wal-Mart “and others” who lobbied to get it in there. IOW they bought off Durbin.

This is how we lose folks. If you keep trading blame around all over the place the wicked go free. Durbin put the amendment in. They probably chose him because he is part of the corrupt Chicago machine and impervious to election defeat. Piss Deodd is gone, but not because of this bill. He is gone because he was caught red-handed in corruption and if he had an R after his name instead of a D he would be in jail. Bwarney Fwank is still there stinking up the House. And the three traitors who voted to invoke cloture for this bill are still there hiding behine their later “no vote”.  They are to blame, not business. If you truly believe in capitalism you have to believe business will act in its own self-interest. Here they were trying to move some of the more onerous fascist regulations from off of their back. Unfortunately it went to out backs in a more direct manner.

All of you advocates of the fair tax take note. Will these businesses reduce their prices by 4 to 5 percent which is what these charges were?

(More on the Fair Tax later)

10

Looks like another bad day for Wall Street coming up

11 Good morning all! Really, really disappointed in Cain.

12 Neocoms want Obama re-elected?

Not according to Chris Hedges at the protest onset.

Hedges argues that no matter which ghoul the Republican Party puts on the potus ticket, to swallow the bitter pill and vote GOP '12.

His ace of spades card is eye catching.
"The Election March of the Trolls"

Quoting Julien Benda:
People have Loyalty to a set of principles:
Either privilege/power
Or  justice/truth
Never both at once.

13

Quoting Julien Benda:
People have Loyalty to a set of principles:
Either privilege/power
Or  justice/truth
Never both at once.

To quote yet someone else I can't remember: "Those who love freedom do not seek power. Those who love power do not seek freedom."

14 Roseanne Barr: Behead Rich Who Won't Give Up Wealth

It's a shame she gets any publicity. If she's going down, she'll take everyone with her. Easy position for a bitch who squandered her acquisitions to demand from others. Undoubtedly her agrarian life is a miserable failure. Those damned gardens and critters don't suit her lazy ass after all.

15 Every time I get enthusiastic about Cain, he screws it up.  Once you read the back story on the "hunting camp", it appears that the MFM has done it again.  What would we ever do without the likes of Chris Wallace, the liberal commie masquerading as a conservative commentator for the NE RINO establishment faux conservative network?.

16 To quote yet someone else I can't remember:
BackwardsBoy

Hedges quoted quite a few Classical Liberals worth cross referencing.
His election troll march concludes:

We have to listen closely to the moral voices in our society and ignore feckless liberals who have been one of the most effective tools of our dis-empowerment.

It's not our job to take power, but to stay fast to moral principles.
Good people don't rule.
Incompetent or venal people are attracted to power (examples: Obama/Bush).

Look at ourselves as a force with capacity to carry out change, make a difference. But if that is ever to happen, we are not to attain power. Politics are about manipulation and deception, always. Avoid personal relations with the powerful that will inevitably corrupt you.

We have to create monastic enclaves where we can retain and nurture the values being rapidly destroyed by the wider corporate culture, and build the mechanisms of self-sufficiency that will allow us to survive. The corporate coup is over. We have lost. The trolls have won. We have to face our banishment.

17 Posted by: didn't take long at October 03, 2011 07:10 AM (lpWVn)
It has taken the trolls decades to put their imperial apparatus in place, and now, it is so powerful that I am no sure it is possible to establish those monastic enclaves of which you speak.  You can still find American values in the agrarian hinterlands, but even there, the progressive march in education and confiscatory taxation is dismantling that vestige of Jeffersonian culture.

18 Knowing how Washington works, if they use the lingo "fair tax", you can bet the farm it will be anything but fair.

19

We had a discussion going this past weekend regarding The “Fair Tax” in which I stated the so-called pre-bates were tied to the federal poverty level and were thus means tested. Some others quoted a Wiki Article to say everyone got them.

From the current version of H.R. 25

‘SEC. 301. FAMILY CONSUMPTION ALLOWANCE.

Each qualified family shall be eligible to receive a sales tax rebate each month. The sales tax rebate shall be in an amount equal to the product of—

(1) the rate of tax imposed by section 101,

 and

(2) the monthly poverty level.

Federal poverty level chart

A family of 4 is $22,350 (average family)

The “rate” per 101:

FOR 2013.—In the calendar year 2013, the rate of tax is 23 percent of the gross payments for the taxable property or service. (except if you download the calculation papers from their site that 23% comes from juggling the figures. The actual rate is 31% the way sales tax is normally calculated)

So a family of 4 would get an annual amount of $6928.60 or $577 per month. I would get a whopping $380/month.

But it does appear that I had misinterpreted the pre-bate. Everyone would get this but it is still tied to the poverty level and is really a pittance compared to what you would be taxed.

20 Journalists, whose role has been reduced to purveyors of court gossip... know, as do we, that they will trot obediently into the voting booth in 2012 to do as they are told.  And everywhere the pulse of the nation is being assiduously monitored through polls and focus groups, not because our opinions matter, but because our troll candidates understand that by parroting back to us our own viewpoints they can continue to spend their days lapping up corporate money with other trolls in the two houses of Congress, the White House, the Supreme Court and television studios where they chat with troll celebrity journalists. The only commodity the troll state offers is fear. --Chris Hedges

21

We have to create monastic enclaves where we can retain and nurture the values being rapidly destroyed by the wider corporate culture, and build the mechanisms of self-sufficiency that will allow us to survive.

At least I have the first part of that equation here at home. I do my best to promote conservatism and personal responsibility every day to my family. As for the self-sufficiency part, I have a ways to go on that one.

Despite the bleatings of progressive Wall Street Hobos, common sense will never disappear. It never has, although it's seemingly gone into hiding for a while. The average American on the street, even though they may be somewhat slow on the uptake when it comes to current events and their meaning, remains a good person and someone I'm glad to call a fellow citizen.

22 What would we ever do without the likes of Chris Wallace, the liberal commie masquerading as a conservative commentator for the NE RINO establishment faux conservative network?.
Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 07:09 AM (i3+c5

It's pretty clear that most of the punditry wants Romney.  I really wish the other candidates would just rip into him.  About twenty minutes of scrutiny and he'd be done.

23 ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT LIVES!!!!!!!! Sorry, everything else seems irrelevant this morning.

24 Sure Durbin The Dirtbag interfered in the free market, but he had lots of help getting it passed. So...
 
There are things you can do to avoid this. Dump your debit card and either go back to writing checks or paying cash. Paying cash has the added advantage of occasionally negotiating a better price. Or you could just switch to a credit card, and pay off the full balance every month.
 
You have choices too.

25 Read an article yesterday in WSJ that people who were in VA for the big earthquake, twittered immediately during it, and beat the shock wave that extended to NY by 40 seconds! It was so much faster than the time it takes U.S. Geological Service to get their notifications out, that USGS is looking into using some kind of Twitter platform.

26 Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 07:14 AM (i3+c5)

I've heard of the "monastic enclaves" from different spokesmen.

It's not as if those enclaves are to be found anywhere other than where we find ourselves at present. Given the "trust" factor involved in such an enclave, strangers wouldn't have it. Matthew comes to mind.

It seems the hill worth dying on is where you find yourself. Stand your ground.

27

What would we ever do without the likes of Chris Wallace, the liberal commie masquerading as a conservative commentator for the NE RINO establishment faux conservative network?

Um, be more free? More prosperous? Not be in this Obama depression because the JEF would've been properly vetted, and therefore rendered unelectable, you know, like he should have been?

The possiblilities are almost endless.

28 Howie Carr at the Boston Herald has a snark filled article about state politicos slurping from the new casino gravy train:
 

Big debate in the state Senate last week — how long should the solons have to wait after leaving the august body before taking a job at one of the state’s new casinos?

The reformers wanted a five-year “cooling-off period,” while the hacks couldn’t bear to wait more than one year before grabbing their no-show, six-figure jobs.

There's much more in this vein at the link. Pretty funny stuff.

29 F&F on there now playing clips of "CEOs" calling for "tax reform".

How about we have some regulatory repeal instead. And piss on Fox.

30 28 paras 2&3 should have been italicized; dammit.

31 Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 07:27 AM (ENKCw)
Paying cash for large purchases is a bit dicey as you only have the original receipt and definitely should not be done unless you know/trust the seller.  That said, I negotiated 5% off a large purchase and intend to keep paying cash whenever circumstances permit.
My alternative is a no-fee credit union credit card paid off every month. 
Screw BAC and "blameless" Dick Turban!

32 I've at work since 7PM yesterday, so I'll just read Vic's bad news and go to bed.

33 As for Chris Wallace, I wonder what it is between him and Herman Cain. Every time he gets up with Kommie Chris he steps on his dick. He had an interview on CNN the same day and was fine.

One wonders if Kommie Chris is "editing" the interview the way ABC did with Palin.

34 Darn Sock!

35 >> All of you advocates of the fair tax take note. Will these businesses reduce their prices by 4 to 5 percent which is what these charges were? Not every purchase was made by debit card, so the percentage would be smaller. But that's a point I've been making about this thing too. Funny, I haven't noticed any price decreases. In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

36 Well, it's not as if Hinckley shot a Democrat or anything!
http://tinyurl.com/3bgtv2b

37 Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2011 07:38 AM (M9Ie6)
I've said this before, but I cannot believe that our candidates are so stupid as to trust the media's integrity.  Every conservative should have his own camera crew filming every entire interview session independently of the network cameraman.  After the initial network airing, the candidate's unedited version can be put on U-tube to ensure accuracy and context.

38 In theory, there's no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.

Yeah, according to Fair Tax pushers consumers are supposed to get an immediate 30% drop in prices at the same time they got a take home pay raise of 15%.

Those birds in the bush really do always come in right?

39 Chris is just following in his old man's footsteps.

40 It was last year or the before when a whaling ship split the protester's ship in half.....but they are back:
 
RADICAL anti-whaling operation Sea Shepherd is promising dramatic attacks against Japanese whalers in coming months, with volunteers warning they're prepared to die for the cause.
 
Kinda reminds me of the Freedom Flotilla that Israel handled. Seems like there were a few instant martyrs involved in that one too.
 
I'm not real keen on the idea of hunting whales unless it is needed for population control, but here is an area where the UN could do some good for a change if they had the will.

41 Media.

Integrity.

Two words that CANNOT be in the same sentence or even on the same line.

42 And they're keeping the difference. No price reductions.

43 After the initial network airing, the candidate's unedited version can be put on U-tube to ensure accuracy and context.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 07:45 AM (i3+c5)

They have to be very careful with that. A nuke site in IL did that with 60 min and did a film showing the 60 min airing vs the unedited airing. The intent was to have local PBS stations air their film since none of the networks would touch it.

60 min told the PBS stations they would sue for copyright infringement. Since these small stations have no lawyers or revenue they all bowed out. I watched that video and I was shocked at how dishonest they were. (per-internet days and didn't know better).

After that I never trusted the network news media again.

44 The paying in cash part isn't difficult until you have to buy something and can't find it anywhere but the internet.

The internet changed things. Sorta for the better until something like this comes along that upsets the equation.

Now that the internet has driven many types of stores out of business or spread them out into large population centers, it's difficult if not impossible to find certain items without using the internet.

Durbin got the duty as he is retiring.

Isn't strange how all the a holes that screwed up the financial system quit, are quitting? Except for Barney of course cause he gets a free pass cause of where he is and WHAT he is.

45 The paying in cash part isn't difficult until you have to buy something and can't find it anywhere but the internet.

Good Lord, I hope you are using a debit card on the internet!  That is dangerous as hell because the debit cards do not have the protections that a credit card have.

46 Powerline has a Solyndra article up, with some new (to me) info on the Kaiser Foundation. It adds a bit more insight into this whole stinking mess.

47 Some debit cards do. And I have loadable debit cards. They can only get what's in there and I keep that low.

My Bank debit card I use for paying bills with known Companies.

I'm not as stupid as I look.

48 Pretty much stopped watching news on tv including fox. I figure I can limit my disappointments to some extent. In the sidebar for headline news the PBS special on prohibition was mentioned. My husband and I caught a little bit of it (by accident) last night. It was actually pretty interesting. Anyone else see it?

49 I took the weekend off from the fabricated news. What a relief, enjoying gardening, the fall season arriving, reading what I choose, enjoying Sunday with the kids.



Is there a link to what Cain said wrong to neocom Chris?

Or is it a case of what Chris asked wrong of Cain?

Who brought up the n-stone subject?

#7 Cain and Perry agree, the word has no place in the modern world. Cain isn't "wrong" to say that those using the word have always been insensitive. It isn't really the white wash details, but that the place was named that before the painted stone marked place. It's history, but the 1980s is late for getting over using the n-word. Regarding the stone, take it up with the owner/management:

The camp is secluded, situated on a vast, 42,000-acre ranch that reaches into three counties and is owned and managed by the Hendrick Home for Children Trust. Various parcels of the Hendrick ranch, as it is known, have been leased out over the years for grazing cattle, oil drilling and, since the mid-1970s or so, hunting.

50 So the "charitable" Kaiser Foundation is not a charity. Does it get tax free status? probably does.

All the more reason to go to a flat tax on all income regardless of source and amount. Not exemptions and no deductions.

51 Posted by: Fanaticism is always a sign of repressed doubt at October 03, 2011 07:57 AM (cA6/i)
I keep a low limit credit card just for the intertubes.

52 The US/Paki situation is even worse than we've heard:
 
KABUL, Afghanistan -- Pakistani military units fired shots at American and Afghan government troops along the Afghanistan border several times over the past year, in encounters the United States has downplayed but that illustrate the fraying relations between the countries, according to officials.
 
They never were our allies.

53

Aaahh...the sweet, sweet tears of Jets, Eagles and Cowboys fans. Makes me wanna cry.

 

54 It was actually pretty interesting. Anyone else see it?

I saw who made it and decided I would not watch it.

55 The last time they "fixed" the income tax system, taxes actually went up for the little folks. (and that was when RR was Pres.)

ANYTIME they screw with taxes or entitlements, the costs or the taxes go up.

They only pay attention to the voters once every 2 years. Any other time they can only hear the jingle jangle jingle.

I wish we could just fire 'em all.

56 All the more reason to go to a flat tax on all income regardless of source and amount. Not exemptions and no deductions. I agree with that but sometimes I get to thinking that a national sales tax and getting rid of the income tax would be the way to go. Maybe just an unrealistic dream.

57 I'm not real keen on the idea of hunting whales unless it is needed for population control, but here is an area where the UN could do some good for a change if they had the will.
Posted by: GnuBreed
..............
I may be mistaken, but whale hunting IS outlawed.  The Japanese use some loophole in the laws that says it's ok to take whales for "research" or some such nonsense.

58 I saw who made it and decided I would not watch it. I readily admit your more informed than I. We just happened to be channel surfing.

59 chi town jerry it's not outlawed and it shouldn't be

60 I keep a low limit credit card just for the intertubes.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 08:00 AM (i3+c5)

You can go to your CC company's website and get a one time use number for a purchase. That way your original # isn't exposed to anyone. And it cannot be used again.

 

I do this for sites where I'm not entirely sure they are legit.

61 All of you advocates of the fair tax take note. Will these businesses reduce their prices by 4 to 5 percent which is what these charges were?

Who cares?  I have more cash on hand.  And with fair tax I can control how much tax I pay better than with an income tax.

62 Maybe just an unrealistic dream.

Posted by: macintx at October 03, 2011 08:04 AM (ucs8Y)

Tax reform is an unrealistic dream.  If you think you can trust enough politicians to change the tax system to something equitable, then send me the name of your "independent" pharmacia as I obviously need some of what you use.

Any real tax reform that doesn't benefit the lobbyists diminishes the power to tax and destroy and thus weakens the politicians.  Crony socialism is alive, well, and has no intentions of going anywhere soon!

63 Interesting discussion going on with Sen. Johnson now on CNBC. He's a former businessman and sounds sensible re gov regulations.

64

Snuffleupagus on his ABC morning show just found out that his political party caused the banks to raise their fees. Well, he just found out the fees are going up. The Rhodes Scholar hasn't quite connected the cause.

In other news, my temporary roommate, a dumber than fuck democrat is screaming at her kid for using too much water (included in her rent). When I mentioned its included in her rent, she managed to link the fact that it will get passed on to her through rent, but hasn't connected the fact the the dem controlled EPA just forced the city (through new regulations) to MORE THAN double the price of water in the past year.

65 Tax reform is an unrealistic dream. If you think you can trust enough politicians to change the tax system to something equitable, then send me the name of your "independent" pharmacia as I obviously need some of what you use. Okay you made me laugh!

66    #48   Ken Burns Prohibition, I caught a couple of scenes from it. I also heard Ken's introduction to this series on the Dennis Miller Show last week. He said it started Sunday and would run through Tuesday on PBS.

The 19th Century was not a nice place for the drinking working man's family. It was hard enough being a working man.

But morality can't be legislated without authoritarians obliterating liberty. I'd be surprised if Burns doesn't paint the parallel between Prohibition enabling organized crime and cartels (already mentioned the Kennedy cartel) and our current War on Drugs (199 .

67

Tax reform is an unrealistic dream.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 08:08 AM (i3+c5)

So was representative democracy at one point.

68 Jimmah! LOL the adult Barney Snuffleupagus on his ABC morning show.

69 Someone is screwing with the blog formatting.

70 Tax reform is an unrealistic dream.

Likely you are right...As if the Tea Party doesn't have a uniting cause.

71 Posted by: GnuBreed at October 03, 2011 08:07 AM (ENKCw)

Why are you paying for pron?

72 48   Ken Burns Prohibition, I caught a couple of scenes from it. I also heard Ken's introduction to this series on the Dennis Miller Show last week. He said it started Sunday and would run through Tuesday on PBS.

The focus of the Prohibition documentary will be a guy my grandfather was an assistant to and bodyguard for.

It's a little family secret that I found out about not too long ago

73 it's not outlawed and it shouldn't be
Posted by: phoenixgirl
..........
yeah.. fuck those damn whales.. let's just hunt them out of existence.

While we're at it, let's get rid of all hunting laws.. no limits!

I mean.. God made man the lord of the earth, right?  It's not our responsibility to keep species alive and viable.

74 The focus of the Prohibition documentary will be a guy

no name

75 As I said earlier, any time you see a politician in today's environment calling for tax reform, what he means is a tax increase for everyone except his cronies and lobbyists.

76 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 03, 2011 08:18 AM (UTq/I)

What's wrong with hunting whales? Is it because they look cool and make vaguely human sounds?

Cows are cute too, especially as calves. And sheep are adorable.

77 sigh, lots of shoutiness at the HQ this morning

and that is even before the DOOM post

78 The "Fair Tax" sounds stupid if you ask me.  There is way too much administrative costs with rebates, or pre-bates etc. etc.

Let's just have a nice flat tax (or even three levels of flat tax" where everyone who works pays something.  No deductions.  No special tax rates for certain types of incomes.

If conservatives really want a smaller government, this is the place to start.

79 sure. that guy, beedubya.

It would be a lame show, regurgitating what's common knowledge

Each episode will have its share of characters. Mother Nation last night.

80

So was representative democracy at one point.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2011 08:15 AM (FkKjr)

What is this representative democracy of which you speak?

81 Roseanne Barr says its ok to have about $100 million in the bank. She says anything over $100 million needs to be confiscated and spread, lest you should get beheaded. My guess is her wealth is conveniently around $99 million or so.

82 chi town really? that's what you read? get rid of limits? someone piss in your corn flakes?

83 I mean.. God made man the lord of the earth, right?  It's not our responsibility to keep species alive and viable.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 03, 2011 08:18 AM (UTq/I)

Um, yeah, basically.  Contrary to popular belief, the earth is not an artfully balanced organism where removing one thing makes everything go haywire.  It's a rock orbiting a fireball with an atmosphere in constant flux which life managed to survive upon.

 The only downside to the extinction of whales is if you like their meat and can't get it any more.  Otherwise it's unimportant.

84 calling for tax reform, what he means is a tax increase

Yes, for all those who don't "qualify" for loopholes and non-enforcement for the elitists.

Nonetheless, EVERY POTUS CANDIDATE is calling for tax reform, GOP 'n Ass.

85 Why are you paying for pron?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at October 03, 2011 08:18 AM (xFdca)

Sadly, my pron buying days are over. Besides, I'm too big of a cheapskate.

86 What's wrong with hunting whales? Is it because they look cool and make vaguely human sounds?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
...........
There is nothing inherently wrong with hunting whales.  But, when hunting brings the populations  down to an unsustainable size, we either have to get all nations to agree to stop hunting (or put a quota) or simply allow the species to die off.

I guess it is simply a matter of whether we care if we kill off entire species of animal or not.  If you don't care, then allow the hunting.

To me, it matters.

87 84 no surprise

88 go volunteer on the sea shepherd

89 and send them money

90 and soap

91 76 As I said earlier, any time you see a politician in today's environment calling for tax reform, what he means is a tax increase for everyone except his cronies and lobbyists. Gosh Vic, that depresses me.

92 84 no surprise
Posted by: didn't take long
..........
Really.

93 Fair tax sounds good.  But I don't think it means what most folks think it means.  You know, to the government a child is someone who is 26 years old.  Words lose there meaning in Washington.  They turn out to be the exact opposite of what they should be.  Bizzaro world.

94
75 The focus of the Prohibition documentary will be a guy

no name

Posted by: didn't take long at October 03, 2011 08:19 AM (lpWVn)

This guy actually

95 95 Uncle Remus! lol

96 If you watch the show Boardwalk Empire, I think George Remus is going to be featured in some upcoming shows.  He was a brilliant guy!

97 93 Really.

"because I could" syndrome

98

There are things you can do to avoid this. Dump your debit card and either go back to writing checks or paying cash. Paying cash has the added advantage of occasionally negotiating a better price. Or you could just switch to a credit card, and pay off the full balance every month.

My debit card can also be used as a credit card. Sometimes you have to push a couple more buttons and have to sign your name instead of putting in your PIN.

99 43After the initial network airing, the candidate's unedited version can be put on U-tube to ensure accuracy and context.

Posted by: Hrothgar at October 03, 2011 07:45 AM (i3+c5)

They have to be very careful with that. A nuke site in IL did that with 60 min and did a film showing the 60 min airing vs the unedited airing. The intent was to have local PBS stations air their film since none of the networks would touch it.

60 min told the PBS stations they would sue for copyright infringement. Since these small stations have no lawyers or revenue they all bowed out. I watched that video and I was shocked at how dishonest they were. (per-internet days and didn't know better).

After that I never trusted the network news media again.

Posted by: Vic at October 03, 2011 07:51 AM (M9Ie6)

Copying and rebroadcasting 60 minutes fotage would be copyright infringement, airing the fotage from your camera would not.  And in the age of Youtube along with access to the internet via a computer at many local libraries, would make it difficult for 60 minutes to prove any specific individual or company uploaded the content.

100 99.9% (something like that) of all species that ever existed are extinct, and have been since well before the invention of spears. As for whales, I'm not sure what use they are to me, but if they disapear, I'm positive I'll never notice the loss.

101 "because I could" syndrome

Posted by: didn't take long at October 03, 2011 08:33 AM (lpWVn)

Make sure you lay a wreath for the trilobite, then, if the extinction of species is such a tragedy.

102 iirc....a number of years ago...banks were charging to process your checks if you wrote over a certain number......that was to encourage debit/credit card use.....the atm card was to end long lines in banks.....these people are going backwards......i never have cash on me jeez....with four kids our grocery bill is huge......i wouldn't feel comfortable carrying around that amount of cash......

103

Cows are cute too, especially as calves. And sheep are adorable.

The meatballs I made friday were cute too.

104

Hotair is reporting that years ago some stone or another in some remote part of a ranch owned by the Perry Farm has the outrageous words,

"“**********,” it read. [expletive deleted],

written on it.  I'll be the first to admit that ********** doesn't bother me in the least, but [expletive deleted], why... Them's Fightin' Words!!

Sorry... but I refuse to take any story that can't bring itself to tell me what I'm supposed to be upset about upset me.  The PC Crowd - of which Hotair is apparantly a member - hasn't gotten itself to paralyzed in self-righteous indignation/PC-Induced Fear it can't even say anymore what it is talking about.

So I'm utterly not caring what this is about, until Ace or Hotair or someone SPELLS IT OUT, like an Adult talking. 

 

105 99.9% (something like that) of all species that ever existed are extinct, and have been since well before the invention of spears. As for whales, I'm not sure what use they are to me, but if they disapear, I'm positive I'll never notice the loss.

Don't inject facts into this debate.  It is the duty of humans to preserve the ecosystem as it is right now because arbitrarily people decided this is optimal.  Leave aside the fact humans can't even manage an economy centrally, we'll get it right with our ecosystem!

Bail out the whales!

106 Funny link in name. Different link, I promise.

107 Oh, I guess it was the Perry RANCH, not Farm.  Not that he's really a rancher anymore than he is a farmer...

108 End withholding, the surviving politicians can debate tax reform.

109 people are assholes! save the whales!

110

My debit card can also be used as a credit card. Sometimes you have to push a couple more buttons and have to sign your name instead of putting in your PIN.

Posted by: Mama AJ at October 03, 2011 08:34 AM (XdlcF)

Mine too Mama. As a matter of fact, I only get the reward points if I use it as a credit card...which I didn't know until about 2 years ago. So, I've been using it more and more as a credit card. Got a nice new 32" TV with it.

Mornin' 'rons & 'ettes!

111 maybe our attitudes would improve if we added whale meat to our diets.......

112 People have Loyalty to a set of principles: Either privilege/power Or justice/truth Never both at once. Need to add, for the majority, "or lazy/sophoric haze"

113

10699.9% (something like that) of all species that ever existed are extinct, and have been since well before the invention of spears. As for whales, I'm not sure what use they are to me, but if they disapear, I'm positive I'll never notice the loss.

Don't inject facts into this debate. It is the duty of humans to preserve the ecosystem as it is right now because arbitrarily people decided this is optimal. Leave aside the fact humans can't even manage an economy centrally, we'll get it right with our ecosystem!

Bail out the whales!
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The more likely scenario would be, the numbers thin so much that the market for them goes away due to the fact no one can economically find the damn things. But I doubt they'll go extinct.

114 Whaling is legal here in the waters of Washington State for the Makah tribe. They killed one in 1999, hauled it up on the beach and started eating it. They decided it didn't taste as good as they remembered and that was the last time they hunted one except for 2007 when 5 tribe members poached one. It was confiscated by the coast guard and sank in the ocean.

115 107 Good one!

116 wells fargo is ending the rewards on the debit card effective oct 7 so you only earn them on the credit card side...... the banks were charging a higher rate to process on credit than on debit.....so if i liked a little store i'd always use the debit and forgo the points.......

117 Hotair is reporting that years ago some stone or another in some remote part of a ranch owned by the Perry Farm has the outrageous words,

Actually that is not correct. The land is "leased" by Perry's father and is owned by some foundation. The easy thing for them to do would be to destroy the rock but it is doubtful they can do that legally.

I suspect that once this non-troversy works its way back to the fundation that owns the rock, it will be gone. But that will probably require a "board" decision which takes time. By then the Washington Post and the other libtard MFM outlets will have ginned up another non-troversy.

This is why you can never win with these assholes.

What Cain should have said to Wallace was this "rock" in a non-issue and deserves to be buried. The he should have asked Kommie Wallace if he ever hit up Byrd as being a member of the KKK and why not.

118

Mine too Mama. As a matter of fact, I only get the reward points if I use it as a credit card...which I didn't know until about 2 years ago. So, I've been using it more and more as a credit card. Got a nice new 32" TV with it.

Mornin' 'rons & 'ettes!

Posted by: Tami
..............
Morning Tami..

The reason they give you reward points for using it as a credit card instead of debit, is because they can charge the retailer much more that way.

So, while you are racking up points, remember you are also costing the retailer a few cents more per dollar every time you use credit instead of debit.

I go to one Italian deli near here that allows no credit or debit at all.. one of the last few holdouts not willing to give a portion of their meager profits to the banks.

119

Good morning to you too, Tami. And the rest of you perverts.

I got a ton of Cash Back bonus money from Discover Card lately (double for your b-day month or something, so I used it for groceries and everything else) and now Amazon lets you pay for your purchase with the Discover Cash Back Bonus $$!!

I bought much more than usual from Amazon this weekend. Clever of them.

120 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at October 03, 2011 08:35 AM (FkKjr)

because I could syndrome

Whether whales or humans go extinct is really beyond my control. The point remains, I wouldn't participate in the extinction of a species that does not threaten my existence. It's one thing to survive on a whale in the arctic. Quite another to kill for poor sport or "research". That you've expressed your own lack of respect for life doesn't sway my own respect for life, particularly given your inability to defend a position, relying on distraction as if that's reason.

Next you'll be explaining the the relativity of "is". Stuff it.

121

118: Actually that is not correct. The land is "leased" by Perry's father and is owned by some foundation. The easy thing for them to do would be to destroy the rock but it is doubtful they can do that legally.

I suspect that once this non-troversy works its way back to the fundation that owns the rock, it will be gone. But that will probably require a "board" decision which takes time. By then the Washington Post and the other libtard MFM outlets will have ginned up another non-troversy.

Not that these facts stopped Cain from pulling out the Race Card faster than Obama could say, "I may not look like the ones on the dollar bills..."

You can't have it both ways, Herbit...

122

I think Insty linked this, but here you go just so I can tell you that I sent it to my husband with the subject line of "All Hail Lord Jeff" and he responded "I, for one, welcome our new Amazon overlords".

Link is still in my name because I'm still tired of TinyUrl.

123 118
Link @ 49
The camp is secluded, situated on a vast, 42,000-acre ranch that reaches into three counties and is owned and managed by the Hendrick Home for Children Trust. Various parcels of the Hendrick ranch, as it is known, have been leased out over the years for grazing cattle, oil drilling and, since the mid-1970s or so, hunting.

124 To me, it matters.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 03, 2011 08:26 AM (UTq/I)

Why do whales matter but anopheles mosquitoes don't? What is inherently important about the existence of whales that shouldn't be extended to every single organism?

My favorite organism is Yersinia pestis. Will you protect it with the same intensity?

125 Reading the comments, it looks like somebody replaced the cereal milk supply with piss. I want to inject a missed point into the debit card/credit card fees discussion: Handling cash costs money, too.

126

My real point in bringing up the non-story about some allegedly racist inscription on some covered up rock at some ranch or another was: PC-ness has changed us all into little children, mumbling about "N-words" or - even - worse - "********."

For God's Sake, we are ADULTS.  If anyone NEEDS to use a "forbidden word" to make himself clear, he should either use it or shut up about it.  ESPECIALLY if you're going to do a story about someone being tagged a Racist because of it, you BETTER be sure there is NO DOUBT what he is accused of saying it.  "*********" isn't sensitive, it's stupid and insulting to the reader. 

And even worse: I hate NO idea how the inscription allegeldy read.

 

127 You can't have it both ways, Herbit... Thanks for the laugh CoolCzech!

128 The reason they give you reward points for using it as a credit card instead of debit, is because they can charge the retailer much more that way.

So, while you are racking up points, remember you are also costing the retailer a few cents more per dollar every time you use credit instead of debit.

So it's me or the retailer?  Hmmm.....let me think about that for a nanosecond....

If the retailer doesn't want to be charged more for credit card purchases, they can stop accepting them.  Until then, I'll use it as credit to get the reward points.

129

The fact that the White House tipped off a well known photographer about the "shopping trip" gives the lie to the WH statement that the First Lady likes to "slip out to run an errand." Stage managing this Precious Moment of supposed normalcy will do little to change the perception of the First Lady that she is a luxury loving social climber who looks down on the rest of us.

Nice smack down at the American Thinker. What we were all complaining about, but in one paragraph 'n stuff.

130 They are letting Moe Lane from Red State post here?  That is a terrible decision. That guy is an A**.  He bans people who disagree with him like Charles Johnson does, has idiotic, childish "debating" skills" and is about as conservative as Dole or McCain.

I'm all for morons, but let's not go too far.  I stopped reading Red State because of him and his ilk.  I haven't been to that site in more than 3 years.  Now you are bringing it here?

131 So to save the whales we should have used more nukes on the japs. The real bastards were the Russians - they actually increased their whale killing when they noticed the west cared, so they could have something to toss out in negoiations. Never did anything with the whales.

132

My favorite organism is Yersinia pestis.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at October 03, 2011 08:54 AM (xFdca)

That's a staggering coincidence, because my favorite orgasm was with a Yersha Penise.

133

 Perry's father actually covered it up in the 1980s

If he didn't cover it up before he even leased it, I think I'll just stay home next November. That should make up for the discrimination and ease my guilt.

134

115Whaling is legal here in the waters of Washington State for the Makah tribe. They killed one in 1999, hauled it up on the beach and started eating it. They decided it didn't taste as good as they remembered and that was the last time they hunted one except for 2007 when 5 tribe members poached one. It was confiscated by the coast guard and sank in the ocean.

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Google "exploding whale"

The term exploding whale most often refers to an event at Florence, Oregon, in 1970, when a dead sperm whale (originally reported to be a gray whale) was blown up by the Oregon Highway Division in an attempt to dispose of its rotting carcass. The explosion threw whale flesh over 800 feet (240 m) away. This incident became famous in the United States when American humorist Dave Barry wrote about it in his newspaper column after viewing a videotape of television footage of the explosion. The event later became well-known internationally when the same footage circulated on the Internet.
 
There have also been examples of spontaneously exploding whales. The most widely reported example was in Taiwan in 2004, when the buildup of gas inside a decomposing sperm whale caused it to explode in a crowded urban area, while being transported for a post-mortem examination. Other exploding whales have been written about and documented by several well-known authors.
..yada yada yada...

Ending his story, Linnman noted that "It might be concluded that, should a whale ever be washed ashore in Lane County again, those in charge will not only remember what to do, they'll certainly remember what not to do." When 41 sperm whales beached nearby in 1979, state parks officials burned and buried them.

135 #132 They are now banning idiot Palinistas, and banned the Paultards before. Great housekeeping, IMO. Though allowing a few fucks, shits, and the like wouldn't hurt to spice things up.

136 Posted by: CoolCzech at October 03, 2011 08:57 AM (Iaxlk)

You are a tremendously disturbed and odd person.

Welcome! You fit in perfectly here!

137 "They are letting Moe Lane from Red State post here?" Guest posts while Ace is on vacation.

138 Yersinia pestis, hail Gaia's avenging angle

139 If he didn't cover it up before he even leased it, I think I'll just stay home next November. That should make up for the discrimination and ease my guilt. Posted by: Concerned Imaginary Republican at October 03, 2011 08:57 AM (XdlcF) I cannot see how this could even be remotely indicitive of Perry being a racist. I've tried, using my liberal friend. He himself couldn't wrap his head around it, and he hates Perry. Makes Cain look worse trying to make it an issue. Wallace didn't step on Cain's dick. Cain offered to do that to himself. I guess everyone in the primary is after Perry. Bachmann, Cain, etc.

140 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

And where is my DOOM!?  It's Monday morning, after all.

141 Whether whales or humans go extinct is really beyond my control. The point remains, I wouldn't participate in the extinction of a species that does not threaten my existence.

So don't.  Other people have different values.  The Japanese love whale meat.  Whales don't affect you one way or the other.  Let them do their thing and stop being a fucking busybody.

That you've expressed your own lack of respect for life doesn't sway my own respect for life, particularly given your inability to defend a position, relying on distraction as if that's reason.

Brow-beating for Gaia from your high-horse won't be effective here.

I have a tremendous expect for life - human life.  Much more than many of your cronies out there trying to save the whales. 

142 134

My favorite organism is Yersinia pestis.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at October 03, 2011 08:54 AM (xFdca)

That's a staggering coincidence, because my favorite orgasm was with a Yersha Penise.

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Mine would have to be the duck billed platipuss. Mainly because what I was taught in school about its extinction, turned out to be greatly exagerrated.

143 Posted by: CAC at October 03, 2011 08:58 AM (JEVge)

A few fucks always spices things up.

144 "All are worth following." Thanks. Will do.

145 Hendrick Home for Children

It isn't as if that Abilene organization painted the rock with the n-word, either.

Most likely a smartass local did. It's not there now because the Perry's got rid of it at some point. So what's done is done.

The n-name was insensitive. But the local lingo isn't still posting it, having left the n-name white washed and stone overturned. You'd have to live out there to police whether they still say it. Rather, get on with life.

Did Cain bring this up, or rather was Cain asked for a response about this? I'm guessing the later.

146 Doom is up

147 I am done with Cain. I can get all the Race Pimping I can stand from the democrats. I am no longer a Honkey for Herman.

148

Not that these facts stopped Cain from pulling out the Race Card faster than Obama could say, "I may not look like the ones on the dollar bills..."

You can't have it both ways, Herbit...

Posted by: CoolCzech at October 03, 2011 08:49 AM

Okay, I admit I'm ill-informed and not sufficiently "into" all this nonsense to watch every political gab-show on TV (translation: I didn't see Cain on with Wallace) but the gist of what he seems to have said was "the name is offensive" and no more. The reports don't say he ripped Perry a new one (though the Usual Suspects hint at it); they say he disapproves of the name.

That's fine with me. I disapprove, too.

So are the Cain-dissers wishcasting here? I have no trouble with a candidate speaking his mind and not spewing out a bunch of poll-tested weasel-words. In fact, it's kinda nice. I liked that about Goldwater, too.

Put me some knowledge, people. If Can was accusing Perry of wrongdoing, that's one thing. If all he was doing was objecting to the word, that's another, and totally inconsequential.

It's one thing to strongly support Candidate A, B or C (or P, I suppose). It's another to attack all other candidates as so many on the Interwebz are doing. Each one of these projections/interpretations/outright lies makes it all the more likely that the stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure will get four more years to complete the transformation of the U.S. into a mix of the worst parts of Kenya and Indonesia.

149

If the retailer doesn't want to be charged more for credit card purchases, they can stop accepting them.

They make it harder to use it that way, by defaulting to debit and making it confusing to get to the credit option.

150 Yeah, I stopped visiting RedState long ago because of their purist posting policies, and bans if you deviate in the slightest.  Erickson and his small band of thugs have created a nice little kingdom where, on a good day, you see posts from the same dozen or so posters, who basically are all saying the exact same thing.

151

Posted by: Concerned Imaginary Republican

You are wise and all, but...shut up.

152 "because of him and his ilk."

and his ilk, funny that

153

 you see posts from the same dozen or so posters, who basically are all saying the exact same thing.

No two posts from different bloggers here are ever the same!

_{Except when they are exactly the same.}

154

They make it harder to use it that way, by defaulting to debit and making it confusing to get to the credit option.

Posted by: Concerned Imaginary Republican at October 03, 2011 09:05 AM (XdlcF)

Yes, it does default to 'debit' but usually you just hit 'cancel' and it becomes a credit card purchase.

155 Japanese love whale meat. More evidence for more nukes

156

Put me some knowledge, people. If Can was accusing Perry of wrongdoing, that's one thing. If all he was doing was objecting to the word, that's another, and totally inconsequential.

Cain said it was insensitive of Perry and his family to leave the rock there sooooo long. Which Perry denies doing. He race pimped it, I watched him do it.

157 Also Cain is now the new darling of MSNBC because in their words he validated the WAPO hit peice.

158 I bet Perry was a Democrat when he hunted under that rock, and no one cared, then after going 'pub he had it painted ov er r.

159 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 03, 2011 09:05 AM (OWjjx)

Seer?

What specific aspect from a candidate's past would turn you against him? (I'm not referencing "you" to mean the public, but you yourself.)

Has Cain, for instance, trampled people's Constitutional Rights?

On those grounds, I'd base opposition to a candidate.

160 He race pimped it, I watched him do it.

Posted by: robtr at October 03, 2011 09:08 AM

That's what I wanted to know. Doesn't knock Cain off my list -- this seems as mild as anything any of the pandering fuckweasels have said during the campaign so far -- but costs The Herminator a couple points on my scorecard.

He's still well ahead of Mutt Romney, RON PAUL!!11!! and all the undeclared maybe-candidates, IMO.

161 Posted by: Jean at October 03, 2011 09:11 AM (elbGQ)

Timing's right.

162 I am now 100% that my FOX GOP Presidential Nominee Theorem is correct:

Roger Ailes & his inside cabal of squishy center-right friends, having moved right following the '08 general election and then still further right during the Tea Party uprising, are now re-centering and big-time support Mitt Romney.

When Perry exploded onto the scene they had to get rid of him fast, a process Perry merrily helped along with his miserable debate performances.  He wasn't necessarily done yet, though, so more action was required.  Enter Herman Cain.

Now FOX knew that Romney folks helped railroad the Florida straw poll by voting en masse for Cain, but that result favored their preferred outcome so they said nothing.  Since then it's been a nonstop Cainfest, or apparently so.

In fact, they know Cain is a basically good but hopelessly naive guy that they can bait into embarrassing himself over time, so they are now in the middle of doing just that.  But because he is black, they have to to be very careful the way they do it, and let him implode naturally rather than attack his ass 24/7 like the did Perry.  They started early because they know it might take longer than they'd like, because the flip side of that situation is that none of the other candidates can really go after Cain, because, again, he's black, and attacking blacks for any reason, including their inexperience or unsophisticated policies, is simply forbidden.

But implode Cain will, probably after only a few more extended interviews with Chris Wallace, and at that point FOX can say, hey, Cain brought a lot of energy to the process and maybe next time around he'll be the man, but for now it's clear that he's just not ready®.

But lookie here!.  You know who is ready and hasn't either been savaged or imploded, and who in fact has been solid as a rock (mostly because we've ignored his non-stop lying)?  Why, it's Bob Dole George Bush John McCain Mitt Romney everybody, a new kind of Republican for a new generation of voters!  So how about everyone gets on board with the winning team, and drive it on in for the winning score!

Thanks, FOX!

163 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 03, 2011 09:11 AM (OWjjx)

Not in my opinion. It was insensitive. Admit it was. To claim saying so makes Cain guilty of playing the race card would be belligerent, imho. Rather, "playing the race card" applies where no racism is involved, where racism isn't applicable. Obama plays the race card when he claims opposition to his political administration is racist. Ex: "The Tea Party is Racist" is playing the race card.

164 Mountain out of a molehill.

Move on, nothing to see there anymore.

Why give it more coverage since it got it's share already?

I'm out of here. Later.

165 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 03, 2011 09:21 AM (OWjjx)

Yep.
'til tomorrow...

166 Forget Fast and Furious. Forget Solyndra. The unraveling of the strangest White House cover-up has begun... She's a Man, Baby!

167 Roger Ailes & his inside cabal of squishy center-right friends, having moved right following the '08 general election and then still further right during the Tea Party uprising, are now re-centering and big-time support Mitt Romney.

Fox has never been "center right". Nearly all their reporters and talking heads are lefties. They had a couple of conservative opinion shows and have paired those down now.

What they are doing now is moving further to the left.

168 Breitbart has found some comforting photos.

169 174 Breitbart has found some comforting photos.

Posted by: franksalterego at October 03, 2011 09:40 AM (7/sDI)

But, but, but....there was a rock....on some property in Texas....bad word.....PERRY!111eleventy!!!!

We are so hosed....

170 The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 20% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty-two percent (42%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -22

171 While we're at it, is it just me or does it seem like the left-wing pundits are more obsessed with Chris Christie's weight than his policies? Could they be more shallow? Could it be any more obvious that the left is incapable of intelligent policy discussions and can only debate politics at a middle school level.

Conservative: "Obama's misguided policies have exploded the deficit and created an environment hostile to hiring new employees."

Liberal: "Yeah, well, Chris Christie is fat."

And they wonder why we don't buy their claims of intellectual superiority.

172 Cain=More Affirmative Action fail.

173 174 Breitbart has found some comforting photos.

Posted by: franksalterego at October 03, 2011 09:40 AM (7/sDI)

This is big.  You can't get more vile than Malik Shabazz.  Adolf Hitler would distance himself from that guy.

174 yeah.. fuck those damn whales.. let's just hunt them out of existence.

While we're at it, let's get rid of all hunting laws.. no limits!

I mean.. God made man the lord of the earth, right?  It's not our responsibility to keep species alive and viable.<<<

Well...no.  It isn't.  You act as though the ecosystem should remain in stasis exactly the way it was the day you were born, forever.  Because you're so just so darn special.

Relax, Francis.  Whales aren't in serious danger, since we no longer use whale oil for our lamps and nobody wears hoop skirts.  The Japanese and Eskimo diets happen to include blubber, and the number of whales they cull to do so is negligible.  Stop crying big ol' tears over every snail darter and obtruding your dietary values on other cultures.

175 I'm not blaming Perry for the rock but it goes to what I've thought about Perry since before he decided to run for President. He foresight abilities are very questionable. He knew of the rock when it was in existence. He was a politician when he knew about it. If he planned to continue hunting there he should have documented the exact details of when and what he did about it so it's not a he said she said scenario. It's not like he couldn't predict this could be an issue. Again foresight.

176 139 "They are letting Moe Lane from Red State post here?"

Guest posts while Ace is on vacation.

Still and all, he doesn't belong here.  The guest posters here are usually intelligent and open to intelligent debate.  Moe Lane is neither. 

177 @7
"Herb" can kiss my ass. 


Good morning, morons!

178 When it was covered up is still in dispute. That it is an issue now with Perry's critics no matter how nitpicky goes to my point.

179 Fox's "political expert" just on and was asked how much this sign was going to hurt Perry. He said not much and then talked about how Republicans (vs Dems) react to this kind of stuff.

Any answer other than this is a non-event and ginned up controversy by the liberal press is a non-answer.

I repeat, piss on Fox.

180 Well, it will be interesting to see how Romney handles the inevitable race questions that will be raised about his candidacy.  1978 is not that long ago. 

181 No....this is nit picking and creating a mountain out of a mole hill. This actually makes me like Perry more because it shows a certain level of desperation among critics if this is a real issue.

That's been my reaction to virtually every thing they've tried to toss at him. 

182 Fox announcing now that the CDC is about to issue guidelines on HS football and "concussions" and they act like it is a good thing.

Perhaps they have a producer who can point out where in the constitution the federal government can regulate HS football.

183 ...desperation if this is a real issue.

Not to worry. Used to be called lynching before we gussied it up. I signed Obama's permission slip to kill US citizens without charges, trial or conviction.

I've never recognized a constitutional hill worth dying on.

184 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

185 Yes it is. Perry says painted over sometime in 83 or 84 and turned upside down after that. Anon sources reported otherwise. Yeah I believe Perry but it's a he said / anon source says scenario. I'll not mention it again other than to defend Perry but again it goes to his foresight that he continued to hunt at a camp known by a racist name whether it was covered up or not.

186

For those who don't understand what "hunting lease" really is:

Hunting Lease = permission to hunt premises, during season.

That's it.

You don't have possession of the property. ....You don't have the right to change or destroy anything on the property. .....You don't have exclusive rights to the property. .....There are other hunters who have paid to hunt there too.

A 'hunting lease' is like a ticket to hunt on that site.

It's not like a lease on a house or an apartment.

187

@194, exactly. Also if Fox was truly conservative, they would be covering the name on a rock from another angle.

188 I said it way back, mountain out of a molehill.
But look who's stuck on this molehill...

Unless Cain actually goes on and on about this stupid thing, get over it.

189 Herman Cain, with his latest idiocy (which is what you get with him every time he tries to talk about anything other than business), has entered "dead to me" territory. Congrats Herman, you freaking race-baitin' punk.

I won't tolerate race baiting from Dems. I won't tolerate it from this pathetic excuse for a candidate. How's that bandwagon riding now, folks? Jeez.

190 No, the moral of the story is;

WOMEN NEVER PAY FOR THEIR CRIMES!

If they get any time, it's less than a man would get.

Exceptions? Sure, but on average a women will be acquited, found guilty but mitigated with some pms or psych phony baloney (you know because like women are the weaker sex. Only when they're in front of some judge though) or they get a reduced sentence compared to what a man would get.

In the rare instances when they do get any fair time, it's because they did it in a real hard core conservative area OR they're black.

And no, I don't hate women, I just think they get away with shit just because they're women.

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