November 08, 2011
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Fifth woman raises questions about Cain's behavior
Cain exhibited no inappropriate sexual behavior during the dinner, though he did order two $400 bottles of wine and stuck the women with the bill, she said.
This is the only “Cain story” I will link. The papers are all full of these stories. Personally I am tired of the whole issue.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:42 AM (YdQQY)
Jim DeMint says we are still increasing spending. Of course most of us said this was coming
The jackals say we are cutting the budget when all they are doing is slowing the rate of increase. But then they donÂ’t even follow the budget when the do the appropriations.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:43 AM (YdQQY)
Heritage exposes the Census BureauÂ’s new poverty measure for the Obama gimmick it is
The Census Bureau’s new poverty measure is another tool in President Obama’s endless quest to “spread the wealth.” Although the media portray it as a more accurate measurement of poverty, in reality it deliberately severs all connection between “poverty” and actual deprivation.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:43 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 02:43 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at November 08, 2011 02:44 AM (bjx73)
Mitt Romney as the Nominee: Conservatism Dies and Barack Obama Wins
EE says Romney is a disaster
for conservatives but he will be the nominee anyway.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:44 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:45 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 02:46 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 02:46 AM (d0Tfm)
Willard Mittens it is! He's always kind and caring.
Posted by: Sensitive conservative at November 08, 2011 02:50 AM (JZBti)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 02:50 AM (zLeKL)
No Perry is not perfect, but he is still the best of the lot.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:51 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 02:52 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Jerry Sandusky at November 08, 2011 02:54 AM (le5qc)
I'll try to ask this throughout the day, just to guage responses. Is there any chance Perry critics can put aside their hurt feelings and support him? No? Even if it means we get Mitt?
Perry's been quietly releasing policy statements and they sound pretty good. There was a link in the sidebar a few days ago. And as Cain implodes, I'm about ready to turn back towards Perry. At least there's no heat on him right now, which hopefully gives him and his team time to reorganize and clean out any skeletons in his closet.
Mitt is a Dim, AFAIC and would set conservatism back at least four years, which is strange, considering the link Drudge has up this morning saying that conservatives outnumber libtards by two to one. I don't trust a Tea Party Congress to keep him in check.
Of course, a dead frog is preferable to the stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure who currently has his hooves resting on the Resolute Desk.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 02:54 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 02:56 AM (zLeKL)
Any bill from this bunch of corruptocrats is worse than no bill at all, and if it is a "bi-partisan" bill, then to re-use an Irish phrase I saw here the other day, "Brace yourself Bridget!".
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 08, 2011 02:57 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:58 AM (YdQQY)
As I told ace last week, since he has no voting record one must rely on his honesty and integrity in keeping his word. It looks more and more like that has gone away. But for me the real killer was the blaming of Perry for the original Politico revelations.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 03:00 AM (YdQQY)
Music to my ears.
Yeah, I just hope that Perry realizes that he needs to be much more careful as he steps up in the weight classes, so to speak. Overall, his policy stances are in line with mine, and his pledge to make government as inconsequential as possible in our lives is something he should be shouting from the rooftops. I'd like to see him step up his attacks on the SCOAMF-in-chief, maybe do some tag-teaming with Neut.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 03:01 AM (d0Tfm)
Australia passes controversial "carbon" pollution tax.
Say's one of the deluded congregation of the church - "Even the heavens are clapping"
Posted by: Jimmah at November 08, 2011 03:04 AM (dW0Dp)
There I was looking forward to another sunny day with reasonable temperatures, and you steered me to the article on Oromney. I have decided to start drinking early today.
If Mittens gets the nomination as all our betters say he should, then like the party faithful that I am, I will use industrial grade C-clamps to hold my nose as I pull the lever against Obama. But I will hold no illusions that I am doing anything but voting for the hope of an infinitestimal decrease in the rate at which the inside the beltway D&R establishment intends to keep hurtling us towards socialism, uber-government, and a release from all those pesky Rights enshrined in the Constitution.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 08, 2011 03:06 AM (i3+c5)
The remark was
naturally meant to be said in confidence, but the two leaders'
microphones were accidently left on, making the would-be private comment
embarrassingly public.
So who leaked the report if not a member of the press, present and sworn to secrecy? The cable guy?
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 08, 2011 03:07 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 03:14 AM (zLeKL)
What other things do we not know about because of similar agreements? Who was in that press pool? I know Wendel Goler was covering that for Fox, so I would also like to know why he isn't on suspension for signing that agreement.
That microphone was open for 3 minutes, according to two accounts I have read (BBC and an Israeli paper). So what ELSE was said?
This is example A on why I spend time looking for news in places other than the MSM.
Posted by: Miss Marple at November 08, 2011 03:14 AM (GoIUi)
To Hell with Iowa. I'm ready to vote for any Repub that's willing to tell the entire state to go fuck itself.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 08, 2011 03:15 AM (G6SvX)
My dear, you can trust me implicitly! After all, I am an award winning journalist of many years.
Posted by: Dan Lather at November 08, 2011 03:16 AM (i3+c5)
Wendell "Great Pyramid" Goler would not have to sign an agreement unless it was to remove his lips from Obama's ass.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 03:17 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at November 08, 2011 03:17 AM (Gc/Qi)
And they are trying to make out like there is a difference.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 03:18 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Tea Party at November 08, 2011 03:19 AM (vFVJi)
Posted by: macintx at November 08, 2011 03:20 AM (ucs8Y)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 03:21 AM (zLeKL)
He would clearly destroy Obama in any debate.
So are people really that freaked out that he sat next to Pelosi on a sofa?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 08, 2011 03:21 AM (uVlA4)
And they are trying to make out like there is a difference.
I'd like somebody up there to suggest we start selling the vast acres of land that Washington currently owns. That's a real "revenue increase" that could, in a sane world where everything wasn't backwards, be used productively to dig us out of this economic ditch we've gotten ourselves into by voting for idiots lo these many years.
If I didn't have to go to work, I'd seriously consider drinking early today myself. I'm just disillusioned as hell, and I haven't felt like even writing a post over at my own place in weeks.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 03:23 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 03:24 AM (zLeKL)
Yup. And Ace devoted three whole paragraphs to this story. Must have been tired out from thinking up the Cain-haranguing posts and Tweets. He was en fuego last night -- what most of us might call acid indigestion.
Amazing that our side is doing more than half the work of getting SCoaMF re-elected. Democrats have got to be ecstatic.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2011 03:24 AM (HkOAc)
So are people really that freaked out that he sat next to Pelosi on a sofa?
Um, yeah, we are.
AGW is a yardstick I've used for years to measure the gullibility of politicians (or just about anyone, for that matter): if you're unable to think for yourself, you're unfit for office. Now that AGW has been proven to be the hoax that a lot of us suspected it was, anyone who continues to profess a belief in it, and more importantly, endorses legislation that claims to stop or slow it, is a fool who doesn't have the intellectual cojones for office.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 03:29 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 06:58 AM (YdQQY)
I'm torn between the further damage this will do to the economy and the fact the a huge portion of the 53% will see their paychecks shrink while their cost of living expenses continue to rise. All while not shrinking the deficit.
Posted by: lowandslow at November 08, 2011 03:30 AM (GZitp)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 03:30 AM (zLeKL)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 07:18 AM (YdQQY)
Seriously though, we have let the press and the liberals redefine the language to such an extent that there is no common baseline of understanding between the politicians and the people!
An revenue increase is not a tax increase, but both mean you will be able to keep even less of your money. A kinetic military action is not a war, even though US forces expended thousand of man-hours, logged thousands of miles of equipment movements, and burned millions of tax dollars. The government inflation rate calculation deliberately excludes food and energy costs and the unemployment rate calculation rate elements are continually tweaked.
To paraphrase, "The only certain things in life are Death, Taxes, and Lying Politicians!".
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 08, 2011 03:32 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 08, 2011 07:21 AM
That's not what bugs me about The Newt. I know people say "oooh, he runs a think tank," "wow, he's such a Deep Conservative Thinker!" and "he writes books!!11!!" in advancing the idea that we need him as POTUS.
My impression of him is that he's a great talker, and not so much a doer. I mean, what has he actually done besides putting his name to the "Contract With America," a document that has ended up being roughly as important as a decades-old newspaper? Likewise, I think he is too deeply rooted in the crony politics of D.C., and when it came to a choice between doing something good for the American people or placating his pals in Congress, he'd favor his Congressional buddyroos.
Those are not reason to stay away from him in the general. Just the primaries. He gets the nomination, he has my support.
But I prefer Perry and Cain right now.
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2011 03:33 AM (HkOAc)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy at November 08, 2011 03:33 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at November 08, 2011 07:21 AM (uVlA4)
Yes, that was a major hit. That bill is actually worse than the healthcare bill as far as impact on the nation goes. But even at that, it is not the only issue he has.
Support for Scarzafavo, attacks against the Ryan budget plan, and the fact that he is a multiple cheater render him unacceptable.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 03:35 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 03:37 AM (zLeKL)
NYC arrest records: Many Occupy Wall Street protesters live in luxury
They are the trust-fund babies we thought they were. And they are the 1%.
Posted by: nickless at November 08, 2011 03:40 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 06:52 AM (zLeKL)
And it's not just people who are voting for Mitt. We seem to have large swaths of the GOP primary electorate voting for this one or that one out of what amounts to spite. So much for getting Obama out of office being the #1 concern around here. They don't call it The Stupid Party ™ for nothing.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2011 03:41 AM (haFNK)
Adherence to the AGW agenda (Newt and Oromney) is the same as accepting slavery for your children and their progeny. If you don't mind the thought of your offspring living in caves, then a politician's support for AGW shouldn't bother you.
Posted by: Hrothgar at November 08, 2011 03:44 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 07:00 AM (YdQQY)
Hiring Mr. Racist Rock to work on his campaign way back when did it for me, though I was never really a Cain supporter, before that I was at least open to the idea of voting for him. All the crap from him since - like the baseless charges he seems to hurl at everyone while whining about those being hurled at him - have just confirmed the impression that the racist rock BS had already given me. Not qualified, no competent and not a even a nice guy.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2011 03:45 AM (haFNK)
I donÂ’t recall his GOTV operation from 2008 being that good.
Well, Vic, let's not kid ourselves here.
2000:
Bush: 50,456,002
Gore: 50,999,897
2004:
Bush: 62,040,610
Kerry: 59,028,444
2008:
McCain: 59,948,240
Obama: 69,498,215
So that is a big jump from 2004 to 2008.
But I agree that the MSM is just preparing the media battlespace with asking questions like "Is Obama's GOTV up to snuff?" in an off-year election with the major one, SB2 in OH, expected to go in Obama's favor (damn). So when it does fail, the MSM can say "see? see? Obama's BACK!!!!!!" even when he deserves none of the credit.
But his GOTV in 2008 was pretty good, actually. Certainly better than ours.
Posted by: chemjeff at November 08, 2011 03:45 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Joffen at November 08, 2011 07:21 AM (zLeKL)
The one where the wind always blows, but never from the same direction more than 30 seconds at a time. :-)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2011 03:49 AM (haFNK)
Posted by: Vic
...........
Of course it does. The unions will be out in force today in Ohio getting out the vote, Vic. It's a practice run for next year, when they will do the exact same thing for Obama.
While I agreed with what they tried to do in Ohio and Wisconsin, they may have overreached politically speaking. Just like here in Illinois, the organizing power of the Democrat machine is immense. We may well lose Ohio next year.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2011 03:49 AM (UTq/I)
As I've said before, I really like him personally, but never thought he had the abilities to be president. While it looks like he will try to weather this storm, he cannot do so for very long. I give him til the end of the month.
The bright spot in all of this is that Perry may benefit from Cain dropping out. I still have hopes for Perry and will gladly vote for him in the primary - despite Erick Erickson's doofus analysis.
Here's an example of his tortured logic:
Mitt Romney will be the nominee because the other candidates, right now, are a pretty pathetic lot.
The base will not forgive Rick Perry his immigration sins.So, the base won't forgive Perry, but it will vote for Romney??? Idiot.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2011 03:56 AM (UTq/I)
It's Tuesday. A week and two business days after the president declined to answer the Solyndra subpoena.
What has happened?
Posted by: Truman North at November 08, 2011 04:01 AM (I2LwF)
Here's an example of his tortured logic:
Mitt Romney will be the nominee because the other candidates, right now, are a pretty pathetic lot.
The base will not forgive Rick Perry his immigration sins.
So, the base won't forgive Perry, but it will vote for Romney??? Idiot.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2011 07:56 AM (UTq/I)
I'm hoping Perry gets some traction out of this as well...he seems to finally have his campaign up and running like a real campaign now at least.
re: Erickson...I've noticed that since he's become moderately well known, the number of rather dumb things coming from him has gone way up. Do you have to sign some sort of agreement to say more stupid stuff - some sort of minimum stupidity quota - to get regular gigs on cable news networks? I guess that's probably a rhetorical question...99% of them wouldn't need a signed agreement.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2011 04:06 AM (haFNK)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mom Feared at November 08, 2011 07:52 AM (lpWVn)
What's on the plate there?
Today is Election Day in MS for state candidates. Phil Bryant (R) is +14 in the last poll and is expected to win the governorship; turnout should be decent as there are 3 hot ballot initiatives to amend the state constitution:Initiative 26 is an effort to criminalize all abortions by defining 'life begins at conception/fertilization'; this amendment could be used to also criminalize various birth control pills, IVF procedures and even life saving treatments for pregnant women at any stage in her term. Just what we need, another entire criminal class of citizens to prosecute and destroy. I'm voting against this idiocy.
Initiative 27 will require people to show photo ID to vote. This should reduce voter fraud and it has plenty of provisions in it to protect the right to vote for people with unusual situations. I'm for it.
Initiative 31 will block state government from using eminent domain to take private property to transfer to another person or corporation. You bet I'm for it. Screw Kelo and the SC.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 08, 2011 04:06 AM (ENKCw)
Certainly the totals were a lot bigger, but that was largely in the blue States. If you narrow the focus down to the tossup States like OH, which is what we are talking about here, it wasn't that big of a delta.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 04:08 AM (YdQQY)
It's Tuesday. A week and two business days after the president declined to answer the Solyndra subpoena.
What has happened?
Posted by: Truman North at November 08, 2011 08:01 AM (I2LwF)
AFAIK, what always happens when this president ignores the rule of law: the MSM ignores it, and no legal consequences ensue. (shrug) Is there some legal recourse for the House committee to take beyond the subpoena?
Posted by: davidinvirginia at November 08, 2011 04:08 AM (haFNK)
Posted by: MrScribbler at November 08, 2011 07:24 AM
I think Ace is pissed that more people didn't jump onto the Perry band wagon and he's taking it out on them. You know, the people who hit his tip jar.
Posted by: Dave C at November 08, 2011 04:14 AM (2ZL3m)
Posted by: dogfish at November 08, 2011 04:16 AM (NuPNl)
I don't think so. I think those turnout numbers are going to be a lot lower in 2012 than in 2008. But you can not measure potential turnout with polls. His approval ratings may indicate that somewhat, but even that is not reliable.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 04:23 AM (YdQQY)
Young people as well are disillusioned with him
And that is another couple reasons Erickson is full of it. A candidate like Romney will not excite the Dem base to come out in droves to vote against him.
The only question is will he excite enough GOP voters to come out for him. But, I think the desire to defeat Obama is enough motivation for that.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 08, 2011 04:31 AM (UTq/I)
There was no one there. No sign-wavers, no union reps, no line. And the weather is nice. If the rest of Ohio is similar, Issue 2 may have a chance, despite the forest of yard signs. Asteroids: the GOP's great hope.
And now I'm off. Believe it or not, I have to go buy a custom pipe fitting.
Posted by: comatus at November 08, 2011 04:55 AM (NA+Ul)
Our leadership is such a disaster. Congress is destroying USA. I feel like I am going to lose everything. The forclosure crisis looks like it could get much worse.
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Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 06:42 AM (YdQQY)
One of the best moments in boxing was Smokin' Joe knocking that cocksucker Ali on his back in their 1971 fight. Too bad Joe didn't win the other fights and beat that asshole into jelly
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 08, 2011 05:08 AM (1Jaio)
the herman cain jokes in the beginning are very funny. He's the second guest.
Posted by: surprised at November 08, 2011 05:39 AM (k1rwm)
Tired of the whole sorry business regarding Cain. My take is that there is a predisposition toward the behavior shown, someone caught this and ran with it. The responses have been fumbling and ineffectual, that you can't deny.
I believe the support for Cain stems from years of vilifying Repubs for any offense. real or imagined, by the left. People apparently have had enough, hence the groundswell of support for the man.
Sarah was always my choice, but since she isn't running. Perry is the fallback. His positions, for the most part fall in line with my preferences. So my support will go to him unless he falls by the way.
I'll vote Romney, if there's no alternative--if someone lets me bring a puke bucket into the booth. Problem I see with him is the perceived apathy among voters. If that depresses the GOTV, then here is your disaster, because without an ironclad majority in both House and Senate, nothing good can be achieved, regardless of who prevails.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 08, 2011 05:49 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 06:42 AM (YdQQY)
Hello third party. I am sick of these cocksucker's. Every last one of them.
Posted by: Barbarian at November 08, 2011 05:52 AM (EL+OC)
I feel strangely moved by Joe Frazier's death. I'm not a boxing fan or anything, but I guess I was at an impressionable age when he was battling Ali. RIP Joe.
Now get off my lawn.
Posted by: Y-not at November 08, 2011 05:55 AM (5H6zj)
I feel strangely moved by Joe Frazier's death. I'm not a boxing fan or anything, but I guess I was at an impressionable age when he was battling Ali. RIP Joe.
Now get off my lawn.
Good morning. I will miss Frazier as well. Cassius Clay, not so much.
Posted by: Barbarian at November 08, 2011 05:57 AM (EL+OC)
The irony is that Perry lost a lot of support from the base who felt insulted by his ill-thought-out remark at the debate, but Mitt's entire campaign has been an insult to the base.
Latest polls show two tiers: Romney & Cain followed by Perry & Gingrich. Perry can still recover.
Posted by: Y-not at November 08, 2011 05:57 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: steevy at November 08, 2011 06:00 AM (7WJOC)
Posted by: steevy at November 08, 2011 06:01 AM (7WJOC)
Tuesday seems to be leaf removal day here. Not my favorite chore, but having a rear-bagger takes it from terrible to tolerable.
And you're all welcome to gather on the lawn, you just can't come in the house.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 08, 2011 06:08 AM (SAMxH)
Posted by: Y-not at November 08, 2011 06:12 AM (5H6zj)
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 06:41 AM (YdQQY)
These people are spoiled children. And the Democrats think they're cool. What does this say about them?
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SSD prices have not been nudged much yet, so that might be a good option if you are not contemplating a very large drive. Here is some scoop:
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Posted by: Errol at November 08, 2011 07:17 AM (vewos)
One of the best moments in boxing was Smokin' Joe knocking that cocksucker Ali on his back in their 1971 fight. Too bad Joe didn't win the other fights and beat that asshole into jelly
I really think he won the last fight he had with Ali. At the beginning of the last round, Ali was heard by his trainers to say that he wanted to quit, and that he felt like he was dying. Contrarily, when Frazier was in his corner they looked at his eye and told him they would not allow him to go back out, despite the fact that he begged them to let him finish the fight. If Frazier's corner had only been within earshot of Ali when he said he was quitting, boxing history likely would have been changed, and Frazier could be regarded as the greatest today.
Posted by: Reggie1971 at November 08, 2011 08:02 AM (b68Df)
Posted by: Errol at November 08, 2011 08:57 AM (vewos)
Well how about that! The nut job libtards up at the White House are on the right side of an issue, for the right reasons, for a change. It's a F*ing miracle! Small PDF from WhiteHouse.gov http://tinyurl.com/7mqhkpb
Posted by: Errol at November 08, 2011 10:57 AM (vewos)
Execution prior to infection?
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With the fate of collecting bargaining rights for public employees on the ballot in that key battleground, this is a major test to see if the president's vaunted get-out-the-vote operation from 2008 is still a well-oiled machine ready for 2012.
I donÂ’t recall his GOTV operation from 2008 being that good. Sure, the Dems numbers went up some in those key States that carried him but they had nowhere to go but up from the Kerry disaster. Also, it helped that a lot of new black voters went to the polls and a lot of conservatives stayed at home. Now that is the $64K question for 2012. Will the black voters turn out again and will the conservatives go to the polls?
Fox (TV) is saying that the OH union bill repeal is pretty much a done deal. All the polls are saying the unions will win. But this has NOTHING to do with Obama.
Posted by: Vic at November 08, 2011 02:41 AM (YdQQY)