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Good Morning Morons. Today is FRIDAY, December 16^th, 2011. Only 9 more shopping days until Christmas.

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Fox's take on the debates. I gather the main theme was electability

I did note this item quoted from Newt:

Called "dangerous," "ridiculous," and "outrageous" by the attorneys general, Gingrich asked whether the two lawyers questioned Thomas Jefferson's decision to abolish 18 of 35 federal judges. He defended his proposal by quoting Jefferson: "Is the Supreme Court supreme? That is absurd, that would be an oligarchy." 

There is one thing, Newt does know History. What he is talking about here is Jefferson firing a bunch of the midnight appointments of Federalist judges by Adams who was trying to assure continued Federalist dominance even though they had been wiped out during the elections. Too bad he could not do anything about John Marshall but ignore him.

Of course the Fox pundits donÂ’t like GingrichÂ’s comments.  They are quoting a lot of other stuff he said.

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Winner and Losers from the Washington Post (via Drudge)

IÂ’m not even sure why I am posting this. You know since it is from the WP it grinds some kind of ax unrelated to who actually did good vs bad.

LOL, stupid Greta on F&F trying to praise Michelle Bachmann said her staff should have marketed her as a “maverick” in the same manner as John McCain. Damn this woman is eat up with the dumbs.

4 F&F just said Nikki Haley will be on shortly with a "big" announcement. One wonders if she is about to "endorse"?????

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Here we have a worthless AP story on how a "deal" was made in the Senate on spending to avoid a shutdown

I say worthless because nowhere in the entire article is any mention of what the “deal” was. All the article did was spew anti-Republican crap based on bogus polls that said the “public” blamed Republicans for the “grid lock”. Gee imagine that, every news organization in the country except one spews the Democrat Party line on budget shit and the “public” now blames Republicans. I’ll try to find out more on what the “deal” was later. I’m sure we were “sold down the river” as the old saying goes.

OK Heritage has a little more and they don't like it

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Our wonderful (and apolitical) DOJ civil rights division issues scathing report on Sheriff Joe (WT via Drudge)

Why a report? Most likely because this is the civil rights division which is a “civil” function and also because he has broken no laws. This is a pure political move. After 3 years of witch hunting all they’ve got is a report? I guess we will have to wait and see. The title of the column says the report says he “violated federal law”. When will the charges be made?

Personally I think this section of the DOJ should be abolished.  State sanctioned discrimination of the type this panel was supposed to combat no longer exists in this country and hasnÂ’t existed for decades upon decades. What we do have is State sanction discrimination against people of “non-color”. But of course, according to this DOJ that is not the purpose of this panel. Only blacks can be victims of discrimination.

This, like the labor panel, when it is capable of blatant thumb in your eye violation of the intent and wording of the law when a communist administration is in power it should be abolished. It gives an unlawful government too much power.

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Sheriff Joe fires back (LAT via Drudge)

8 DOE's light bulb rules — authorized under a 2007 energy law authored signed by President George W. Bush Bush!?

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Michelle O. flies out to Hawaii without Obama

Why are we paying for her to have a vacation jaunt to Hawaii? It is not her home which is in Chicago and she is not going on a government function trip. This shit needs to end NOW!

How about this little winner from the WP (via Drudge for this)

In both of his first two years in office, Obama briefly delayed his vacation to remain in Washington while Congress completed its business.

Delayed his vacation???? He you assholes, when is he not on vacation? So he has to delay his slacking off because there is “political work” to do. I am surprised reporters and editors from the WP can breath when they have their heads stuck so far up Obama’s ass.

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Military given go-ahead to detain US terrorist suspects without trial

Barack Obama has abandoned a commitment to veto a new security law that allows the military to indefinitely detain without trial American terrorism suspects arrested on US soil who could then be shipped to Guantánamo Bay.

How about this Gabe, you said they had modified the bill so this would not happen?

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Corrupt Land-deal Harry to force vote on Pay Roll Tax bill.....to embarrass Republicans

I say go for it. We need to see who the RINOs are. I guess that is why Bitch McConnell was blocking it.

12 Kaus has a good post on the lightbulb thing. I'm on my phone or I'd link it

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GOOD NEWS!!!! $1T spending bill that has been agreed to has provisions to block spending for light bulb phase out!

It blocks spending on enforcing the energy standards. I am not sure how that would work. It doesnÂ’t reverse the regulation, it just prevents them from enforcing it.  What will companies do since the law says canÂ’t do it??? In any case, this will likely get amended out in the Senate.

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Since the Republicans caved on blocking the EPA crap they are getting ready to go forward

This article from the Democrat PR rag talks about rules for Hg and Ozone but doesnÂ’t mention CO2 at all which is also in these regulations.  And I like this little gem they published for the EPA.

EPA says the rules will prevent up 17,000 premature deaths, 11,000 heart attacks and 120,000 asthma attacks annually.

I would dearly love to see the calculations for this load of crap audited by someone who knows about this shit. Based on past EPA calculations I would say the papers are probably covered with a brown nutty substance similar to chunky Peter Pan peanut butter because it was pulled out of some radical greenÂ’s asshole.

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Some good lawmakers want the House committee to block on-line piracy bill in committee until more can be investigated

The Democrats want this bill so that should be enough said alone. But this is a two-fer for them. Pays off cronies and it gives more government control. It allows the government to shutdown any website it has received an “accusation” of piracy on without ANY due process at all.

Imagine the potential for abuse here from the Obamanites! Get a scathing article on Fast and Furious from a conservative blog. No problem, have some Moby file a copyright infringement protest.  Instant shutdown, and we will investigate some time in the future.

THIS BILL IS BULLSHIT PEOPLE

16

Terry family now calling for criminal charges in Fast and Furious

17 Gaddafi killing may be war crime Yeah. Good luck with that.

18

Highly enlightened Muslims perform radical mastectomies in Pockistan and feed the masses

These sick fks need to irradiated from the face of the earth.

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Attention SC Morons, especially those who have recently moved to the State (Delta Smelt??)

In order to vote in the SC Republican Primary in Jan you must be registered NLT next Wed.

20 That's it for now folks.

21 Posted by: Joffen at December 16, 2011 06:59 AM (zLeKL) Nazi Pelosi forced them to do it on something he wanted. Stupid then, still stupid. I was actually hoping it would get enforced and all the people who watch American Idol freak out and spook the shit out of congress

22 Of course that does nothing to restore the jobs lost, because all the manufacturing has already moved overseas.

Not true Andy, we still have a plant in Mullins, SC that makes them.

23 Yea I gotta call my congress criter about SOPA. It really is a piece of dog shit

24 Not true Andy, we still have a plant in Mullins, SC that makes them. That's where the ones I bought say they were made. I got cases bitches!

25 How about this Gabe, you said they had modified the bill so this would not happen?

Nope. I said they had modified the bill to state that it would preserve the current status of the law. See comment 35.

And the current status of the law is that U.S. citizens who are Al Qaeda terrorists can be detatained indefinitely and transferred to Gitmo.

Now, keep in mind: this does not mean that those U.S. citizens who are detained as Al Qaeda terrorist do not get to petition the U.S. courts for release. They (and, in fact, alien detainees too) still get habeas corpus.

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Not true Andy, we still have a plant in Mullins, SC that makes them.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:05 AM (YdQQY)

Many of us read here that the last 100 watt light bulb line in America shut down. It was a month or two ago.

27 Ok, what the hell was Mitt talking about with those ID cards? Was his idea really a card for legal immigrants to carry with them at all times and show it to their employer? Was that the new idea he was advocating?

28 And the current status of the law is that U.S. citizens who are Al Qaeda terrorists can be detatained indefinitely and transferred to Gitmo.

As I understand the court ruling that only applied to terrorists arrested overseas on the "battlefield". This allows them to arrest American Citizens in the U.S on U.S. soil who may or may not be engaged in active war on the U.S.

 

29 Attention Nikky Haley endorses Mitt Romeny

Damn she just went down on my opinion.

30 Haley endorses MITTENS!

31 Haley endorses MITTENS! --- This was announced late last night. No surprise.

32 Rand Paul!!!

33 Damn that puts him in lay in SC. Damn damn damn

They asked her about Newt, she says its the economy and Mitt is better at that. She's wrong.

34 So if Rick Perry pulls a strong fourth (!) in Iowa is that enough for him to stay in? He's still got a lot of money? Can Newt survive a third place? I think theyd all like to see Paul win so Iowa results get discounted.

35 __ Christopher Hitchens died. Mother Theresa currently kicking the crap out of him. _

36 So I guess we should all get behind Mittens then? I give a fuck who endorses who.

37 Lay or Play?

38 LOL, she said everyone called but Ron Paul.

Personally I think she is going with electability.

39 Play

40 Haley -- whatta maroon.

41 Haley: "what I want is someone who is not part of the chaos of Washington." Well, Newt is certainly that.

42 She will be touring the State with Romney this afternoon.

43 weak attempt at Will Folks joke. Ok gotta go to work.

44 LOL, she said everyone called but Ron Paul.

Personally I think she is going with electability.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:17 AM (YdQQY)

Well, whatever the reason, she can damn well forget having me support her if she ever runs for anything higher than governor. So much for the new, young Republican leadership. Sounds and acts a lot like the same old damn Beltway crowd.

45 If we elect Mitt, that whole "repeal Obamacare" is never gonna happen. I have a hard time believing and Mitt supporters want Obamacare stopped.

46 Christopher Hitchens discovers corrupt nun in Heaven.

47 A governor is going to support a governor. Huntsman is right out, that leaves Perry and Romney. I suppose she could have stayed out but maybe she really thinks Romney is the best candidate?

48 So much for the new, young Republican leadership. Sounds and acts a lot like the same old damn Beltway crowd.

Yes, this is very disappointing. One wonders if the "party" made a deal. Probably not, I think she is going straight on "electability" BS.

49 I suppose she could have stayed out but maybe she really thinks Romney is the best candidate?

Posted by: Blaster at December 16, 2011 07:32 AM (Fw2Gg)

That's what DeMint did and I truly thought she would as well if Perry did not rebound. 

One other possibility is that she is going with the anti-Newt with a chance. Like I have said, Newt has some hard negatives to overcome in the bible belt. I am surprised he is doing so good in the "polls" here.

50 Damn there are some people on the Hitchens thread gloating over his death. Someone has to be pretty damn despicable before I will gloat over their death, and although I disagreed with a lot of his stuff, they did not rise to the level of gloating.

That shit should be reserved for people like Jane Fonda.

51 I suppose she could have stayed out but maybe she really thinks Romney is the best candidate? Posted by: Blaster at December 16, 2011 07:32 AM (Fw2Gg)

Whoa, there.  That's crazy talk.  Clearly she's a RINO and to be ignored, along with Paul Ryan, etc etc etc. 

52 Christopher Hitchens died.

Mother Theresa currently kicking the crap out of him.

Posted by: BumperStickerist at December 16, 2011 07:17 AM (h6mPj)

I never got the Hitchens fellating by people on the right.  I always found him to be unremarkable, even when he was talking about radical Islam.

53 If we elect Mitt, that whole "repeal Obamacare" is never gonna happen. I have a hard time believing and Mitt supporters want Obamacare stopped.

I don't think repeal is going to happen anyway regardless of who is elected. We simply will not have the votes in the Senate and the President can't get past that.

Our only chance is the courts and that will rest on Kennedy. IOW, we are screwed, blued and tattooed.

54 Andy, I suspect that if that ban truly does get held off for a year that plant, being one of the few left, will expand and hire more.

55 I don't think repeal is going to happen anyway regardless of who is elected. We simply will not have the votes in the Senate and the President can't get past that.

If the election is bloody enough for the Dems this time around, I believe a few of them will decide it's time to jettison the OCare albatross and that will be enough to break a filibuster.  They're already behind numerically in '14 because of the big win in 08;  they don't want to have to keep defending this monstrosity.

56 If the election is bloody enough for the Dems this time around, I believe a few of them will decide it's time to jettison the OCare albatross and that will be enough to break a filibuster.

I think that is a very slim probability since nationalizing healthcare has been on the Democrat's wish list since FDR.

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Senate votes gov can detain American civilians indefinitely without habeus corpus, and we're talking about light bulbs? SOPA Act, military commissions, patriot Acts.

Playoffs?>

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http://www.yo utube.com/watch?v =R3jmkkk6Pus&feature=youtu.be

WhoÂ’s the BOSS at the debates?

59 I don't know that Haley is reflecting a Bible Belt rejection of Newt. I haven't gotten the feeling that hers was an especially evangelical politics but I don't live in SC anymore so I could be wrong on that. Still, governors are going. To support governors. And Perry is running where in SC? Fifth? Perry is still my candidate but likely in the Virginia primary I won't have the chance to vote for him.

60 I think that is a very slim probability since nationalizing healthcare has been on the Democrat's wish list since FDR.

And getting reelected has been tops on that list since forever.  Hopefully it won't come to that (SC will strike it down) but if not, I guess we'll find out who's right.

61 And Perry is running where in SC? Fifth?

In the last poll Perry was running 3rd with Newt far in the lead. But I don't think these SC polls are very good right now. If you look at the internals you find that the overwhelming majority said they are likely to change. 75% in one poll.

62

AOSHQ is not a blog.

These are not the morning headline comments.

It may or may not be December 2011.

63 LOL, if that BS internet piracy bill passes it may not be a blog for long.

64 I hear on twitter Nikki Haley endorsed Romney. There goes her tea party cred.

How was the debate. I fell asleep at 830 last night?

65 fuck you and your death machines

66 Can last up to 10,000 hours. Can. But in practice they don't really last appreciably longer than the incandescents now, do they? Certainly not enough to justify the much higher price, even when factoring in the decreased energy use. Keep on spinning, DOE.

Andy, I hate that these things were mandated and the reason for mandating them is a BS lie, but they do last longer when used in most applications.

I was replacing the incandescent bulbs in my lamp that is on most of the day about 1 per month and a half. I went to a CFL before the ban and that bulb has been in the same lamp for 2.5 years now. I burn it almost all day long.

Where they do not last long is in applications where you turn them on and off a lot. But, incandescents don't last very long in those applications either.

67
I hear on twitter Nikki Haley endorsed Romney. There goes her tea party cred.

WTF...Rombley? How could any critically thinking adult be taken in by that fraud.

68 we're talking about light bulbs? SOPA Act, military commissions, patriot Acts.

Playoffs?>

Posted by: Mel at December 16, 2011 07:47 AM (a0mPp)

We are concentrating on the things that we can appear to be fixing--not actually fixing anything, mind you, but appearances count.

Solyndra (done deal), F&F (pardons are only an election away, one to two more liberal SC justices (not a problem), bailouts (for the right people), but please don't mess with my light bulbs. 

Note that the "Smart Grid" will give the government the power to turn off all your lights (but that power will only be used for good).

69 You folks just signing on need to back up and read the last 25 or so posts on the Haley endorsement that was just made on Fox.

70

Built my house in 2006 and used CFLs in several places and incandescents in others. Witht he exception of one incandescent fixture that's been one and off a gazillion times I've not had to replace more than 2 of the 20-30 incandescent bulbs.

The CFLs? Got ten of 'em and have had to replace virtually Every. Single. One.

Aside from that and the fact it takes five or six minutes to get full light from them--and that light is a sucky yellow hue--what's not to  like?

71 Flourescents last for up to 10000 hours cause you need a hazmat team to dispose of them and who wants to do that. Moreover they are a trial lawyers dream suit. If you break one and get toxic exposure you can sue the companies and drive them out of business like asbestos. Then our country's light map will resemble North Korea which is the true aim of the envirofascists.

72 Vic, how was the debate?

73 Aside from that and the fact it takes five or six minutes to get full light from them--and that light is a sucky yellow hue--what's not to  like?

I had some of those first generation CFLs and yes, they sucked. Burned out fast and took a long time to warm up. The new ones are much better. As Is said, 2.5 years in my reading lamp. Ans it takes almost no time to "warm up".

74 Bachmann - Joke Perry - Al Gore Gingrigh - Scumbag

75 Missed the Hitchens thread but I wonder how long it took him, wherever he is, to mention Nabokov and Orwell to the first earhole he encountered.

76
Face it: Perry was toast weeks ago due to his poor debate performance.

All the big guns are now trained on Newt because he is the only candidate who poses a threat to Mittens. It's only a matter of time before Newt is destroyed.

Romney is our candidate. It's inevitable.

Sitting out the 2012 election is gonna suck.

77 Flourescents last for up to 10000 hours cause you need a hazmat team to dispose of them and who wants to do that. Moreover they are a trial lawyers dream suit.

That's a myth that has been promulgated. When it first came out EPA said you could use normal clean up methods, avoiding breathing the dust, and throw them away in standard trash.

Since then they have changed it to disposes of according to local laws because stupid States like CA have made them the same as batteries.

There isn't enough Hg in one of these things to hazard a damn gnat.

78 the 'Hitchens and the Right' thing Well, Christopher switched sides, coming over to the side of Goodness and Right, so there's that. Plus he beat the living hell out of Andi rhetorically. so there's that. and he got his crotch waxed for the purposes of an article. which is mostly why ace liked him so much. It's sort of a "dodged a bullet there" reason. _

79 >> Where they do not last long is in applications where you turn them on and off a lot. But, incandescents don't last very long in those applications either. Right. Like in most normal household applications. CFLs are 3x to 4x the cost, so you have to get 3x to 4x the life out of them just to break even, and it doesn't happen in that application. Fluorescents are the right fit for factories, retail locations, etc. where lights are on for long stretches, but they suck in residential use. Unless you leave the lights on all the time, I guess, but doesn't that kind of blunt the point of mandating them in the first place? What really does kick ass, though, is LEDs. They're even more expensive but they last in normal residential use for ... well ... I don't know. I've never had one burn out.

80 Vic, how was the debate?

I didn't watch it. We are in the season for Christmas schmaltz and that is what wifey has the TV on every night now.

81 I love the "can last up to 10000 hours".  It would too revealing to publish the statistical data on CFL lifetime.  I would bet $10,000.00 that the 10,000 hour "sample", if one exists, is a three to six sigma outlier.

82 Well of course Haley had to endorse Romney. She is pregnant with his baby! The timing was wrong for it to be me!

83 Romney - Unelectable, Joke, Grovelling Shitstain

84 Stop the fucking presses! Jennifer Rubin says Mitt won the debate. (No link for shameless hacks)

85 Newt just got $20 million in a pro newt pac, I hope to God he uses it. I dont want that asshat Romney getting the nod. And I dont see him winning SC.

86
Fluorescent lights are perfect for applications where they burn for hours at a time.

If you're a guy, you'll want an incandescent light in your closet.

87

1- Haley endorses Romney? that's suprising. It's the 1st endorsement that legitamely suprises me for Romney. Oh well, more on him later...

2- Hitchens died. So long and happy to see you go. Ive already said my feelings at the facebook group. I never seen so much dicksucking for that asshole. Hopefully folks will start to read his less angry, better informed brother.

3- On last night's debate - Newt won once again, Romney made me feel more comfortable about him last night, Perry had to be off the pills because he actually came off articulate and makes me open to MAYBE seeing him as electable again, Bachmann annoyed me as did Santorum, and Paul is an embarassment to my party. Romney needs to be sweating. Not only is Newt tough to take down but Perry is off the pills.

4- Have 2 Holiday parties to go to. At noon my office party and tonight my brother's party. Little worried about the latter. The bitch known as my ex will be there and my gf feels unsure if my sis in law will partake in chilidish party games she wants no part of. We'll see...

88 What really does kick ass, though, is LEDs.

When I switched out my reading lamp I looked into LEDs. What scared me about them is that I live in a high lightning area. One nearby strike and surge is likely to take out an LED because they are sensitive to surges. There goes all that cost.

At the time a 100W equivalent LED was running about $25 so I avoided them. If they get cheaper I may go to them. Right now the CFLs can be got from Walmart on sale periodically damn cheap.

89 Bwhahaha

90

Stop the fucking presses!

Jennifer Rubin says Mitt won the debate.

I wonder who JeffB thinks won/sarc

91 led lighting hurts my eyes.....and makes me queasy......

92 Oops, fail! Bwhahaha! The CEO of the NY Times is stepping down at the end of the year as they struggle with lack of revenue. She didn't give an explanation, but I'm sure it's because she wants to spend more time with her family. Pinch will be hitting for her after she is gone. That should really turn things around. Ha! Ha!

93 Well, so much for my retirement nest egg that would have been funded by selling pre-ban incandescents on E-Bay.  Assholes.

94 Hate CFL light it stinks. Got a fancy LED lightbulb and man is it bright. Will see if worth the cost. (Husband had to experiment) Good morning all, thanks Vic for the headlines. Colder and cloudy here but cold is a relative term to those of us who live in South Texas. Rise in gang violence starting to be noticed by local media. Gee, you mean you didnt see all the Mexican Nationals who are now residing in our fair city?? Whole neighborhoods are people who have fled Mexico from the drug cartels? Upper class, middle class, wetbacks, they are all trying to get out.

95 >> I would bet $10,000.00 that the 10,000 hour "sample", if one exists, is a three to six sigma outlier. I tested this out in the kids' playroom in our basement. I have a field of 6 recessed lights on the same switch and put in 3 CFLs and 3 incandescents. Guess which one was the first to go? Overall it looks like the average life will probably be about the same for each in this application, which is kind of my point. There are certainly some applications where CFLs are a better choice (like Vic said - where the lights are regularly on for long periods of time). But extrapolating that theoretically increased life across the normal residential use pattern just doesn't work.

96

I don't get why it's so much environmentally better to strip mine off the tops of mountains to get at the mercury to use in the cfls which I then must be sure to carefully recycle rather than just throw away.  And I'm pretty damn sure most people won't carefully recycle them but will just throw them away thus dumping a bunch of toxins into waste disposal centers where it ends up in the water table.  I'm a little fuzzy on how that's better.

re:  Hitchens' passing.  Fuck cancer. 

97

Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 08:16 AM (u/RSM)

I could turn that newspaper around

98 What woman wants to be told she looks "fluorescently beautiful"? Seriously!

99 Attention Nikky Haley endorses Mitt Romeny

Damn she just went down on my opinion.

Ditto.  I'm disappointed in my governor.  We're getting the Mitt cram down from every corner....almost like it's preordained, or something.

100 author why would your ex be at your mother's party?

101

Consumer Reports writeup on new bulbs

102 author

why would your ex be at your mother's party?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:20 AM (Ho2rs)

well it's my brother's party and because she's good friends/roomates w/ my sis in law and him. I personally wih she'd vanish from my life all together.

 

We're getting the Mitt cram down from every corner....almost like it's preordained, or something.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2011 08:20 AM (ycuSb)

Ive heard, for all its cred as a conservative bastion, SC, its a very pro-establishment state. Too bad for Mitt its not working, every none-Romney has had huge leads in the state

103 Mitt won with Newt second IMHO and I am still supporting Perry

104 wish* not wih

105 Hate CFL light it stinks. Got a fancy LED lightbulb and man is it bright. Will see if worth the cost. (Husband had to experiment)

How much did you pay for it? I just checked the 'nets and a 60W equivalent LED is running $35 now.

106

OccupyDC becomes a beta tester for the State Department.

Internet in a suitcase.

107 That's good if Newt did well. I wont vote for Romney in the gen ed. I swore that.
Newt just got 20 million from some millionaire. He has to use that stuff. I expect Rubio to endorse Mittens as well. However, none of these endorsements will get mitt any intended support.

108 btw its been what? months since we heard from Jane. is she ever coming back?

109 Ive heard, for all its cred as a conservative bastion, SC, its a very pro-establishment state. Too bad for Mitt its not working, every none-Romney has had huge leads in the state

I'd have to agree.  That's why Haley's endorsement is all the more irritating.  She was the "outsider."  And Mitt is not working out here.  We were dumb enough to go w/ McCain in '08, so anything's possible.  But Mitt's not getting the love he wants from SC.....yet.

110 don't actually touch the new bulbs with your bare hands.....the oils make the bulb weaker and blow out early..........

111 i don't know author...guess who was back last night though........

112 Attention Nikky Haley endorses Mitt Romeny Damn she just went down on my opinion. Ditto. I'm disappointed in my governor. We're getting the Mitt cram down from every corner....almost like it's preordained, or something. Posted by: Lady in Black at December 16, 2011 08:20 AM (ycuSb) I don't think endorsements mean all that much now a days

113 it was giving a play by play of the debate on the debate thread as if the people on that thread were too stupid to follow along..........

114 The individual formerly known as Nikki Haley has been assimilated into the Collective.
You too will be assimilated.
Resistance is futile.

115 I've never had a CFL burn anywhere nearly as long as they're supposed to.

I know they're all made in China, but if you're going to use CFLs buy brand names -- they last the longest. I guess they have better quality control.

The best CFLs are manufactured by Phillips and GE. Since I boycott GE, that leaves Phillips.

But I don't even buy them. Like I said, they consistently burn out too quickly to justify their cost.

I really do, however, like florescent tubes.

116 We were dumb enough to go w/ McCain in '08, so anything's possible.

He "won" SC the way he won everything else, via plurality under winner take all rules. He got about 30% of the vote and 90% of the delegates.

That will not happen this time. For all States prior to Apr 1 it will be proportional delegates, and to top that off since all of them moved their primaries up because of FL, they will all lose half their delegates.

117 i don't know author...guess who was back last night though........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:29 AM (Ho2rs)

the troll we're told constantly by the co-bloggers who wont ban it to ignore even though that doesnt work? what was she doing? pimping w/e Beck said?

I actually think ive found her out on the facebook group but im not 100% sure, dont wanna go and confront her and then it turns out its not her.

118

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:30 AM (Ho2rs)

and let me guess folks were ignoring it and it kept going, any random links?

119  I've never had a CFL burn anywhere nearly as long as they're supposed to.

Insty was huge on them when they first came out and now he's not due to the whole not lasting nearly as long as they are supposed to last thing.  I've never had a CFL last nearly as long as they were supposed to last and most of them burnt out before the incandescents. 

120
don't actually touch the new bulbs with your bare hands.....the oils make the bulb weaker and blow out early..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:28 AM (Ho2rs)

That's only for quartz halogen and other bulbs that burn extremely hot.

121

don't actually touch the new bulbs with your bare hands.....the oils make the bulb weaker and blow out early..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:28 AM (Ho2rs)

 

That's only for quartz halogen and other bulbs that burn extremely hot.
Posted by: Ed Anger - Certified Kos Kid at December 16, 2011 08:34 AM (7+pP9)

my brother is in love with them

"go green!" he says

then he gets pissed when I reply "fuck off"

122 I had a 300W halogen lamp (still do in the attic). The bulbs in it continually burned out and were expensive. After the third time I had to fix the switch for it I moved it to the attic. The other problem was that it was one of those that opens out on the top so the light bounced off the ceiling. These kinds of lamps are a fire hazard.

I do miss it though because it was a great reading lamp.

123 author yep the one and only......

124 99 Attention Nikky Haley endorses Mitt Romeny Damn she just went down on my opinion. On mine, too. Which is good, because my opinion really hardened overnight.

125 author

yep the one and only......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:40 AM (Ho2rs)

I just went back to look at the comments, it was almsot sad to look. the deranged woman obv. cant take a hint we dont want her around

so we're stuck w/ the troll but Jane app. has left the blog? ugh

126 Coming next on the Liberal Envirohit Parade will be waterless urinals installed in private homes. I'm already seeing them pop up in public restrooms, and they are disgusting.

127 no random links.....just repeating what each one said or painfully obvious "romney is speaking now" "big cheers for bachman".....blah blah blah.......she's back to bachman now that the cain train has fallen off the track........

128

Posted by: CoolCzech at December 16, 2011 08:42 AM (niZvt)

ive been seein them for a while now, the Buccaneers's Ray J stadium has some. and yes...they are disgusting

129 what's the facebook link?

130 I've had waterless urinals for years and years. They are called trees and car tires.

Yeah rednecks.

131 lol vic.......

132 what's the facebook link?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 08:44 AM (Ho2rs)

for the group?

133 yes

134

see if this works phoenix

http://tinyurl.com/d7ejb88

135
I had a 300W halogen lamp (still do in the attic). The bulbs in it continually burned out and were expensive. After the third time I had to fix the switch for it I moved it to the attic. The other problem was that it was one of those that opens out on the top so the light bounced off the ceiling. These kinds of lamps are a fire hazard.

I do miss it though because it was a great reading lamp.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 08:39 AM (YdQQY)

Those are called torch lamps and are a real fire hazard. They used to sell even more powerful ones and if you put them anywhere near drapes it was house fire time.

I have a two bulb quartz halogen work light that burns like the sun. It's great for stuff like interior painting after the sun has gone down. If you turn both bulbs on and run a mini-shop vac on the same circuit it'll trip a 15 amp breaker. You could use it to do surgery or dental work, though.

136
I've had waterless urinals for years and years. They are called trees and car tires.

I call them lawns.

137 We get thrown fuckin' scraps! And we're grateful for it! Fuckin' lightbulbs! And this is our big - "fuck you, dems, you don't own me" - moment.

138 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

139 The lightbulb thing makes my hair ignite. Pisses me off no end. I'm unsure which bothers me more having poisonous expensive poor light bulbs when an excellent alternative is available or having to hear expressions of grief for that creep Hitchens.

140 I would dearly love to see the calculations for this load of crap audited by someone who knows about this shit. Based on past EPA calculations I would say the papers are probably covered with a brown nutty substance similar to chunky Peter Pan peanut butter because it was pulled out of some radical greenÂ’s asshole. Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:01 AM (YdQQY) LOL. Vic, you have such a way with words!

141

As I understand the court ruling that only applied to terrorists arrested overseas on the "battlefield". This allows them to arrest American Citizens in the U.S on U.S. soil who may or may not be engaged in active war on the U.S.

Your understanding is not correct. Since the Al Qaeda AUMF, the military has had the authority to detain Al Qaeda combatants, regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens and regardless of their location at the time of apprehension. This measure didn't change that. All this measure did was ensure that Al Qaeda detainees are presumptively to be in the custody of the military. It put a slight (very watered down from the original intent of the drafters) restraint on the President's ability to transfer these detainees into civilian custody for trial in civilian courts. It did not alter their access to civilian courts for the purpose of habeas petitions. It also did not alter the possibility that they could be tried in military courts.

142 Vic, why are CFLs the alternative of choice, and not LEDs. I tried CFLs in some fixtures that were a pain-in-the-ass to do bulb replacements and was very disappointed in the lifetime and light quality.

143

Those are called torch lamps and are a real fire hazard.

Hmm. Have one in the living room that we almost never use. Too easy for the kids to tip it over. Maybe it's time to get rid of it.

We have one of those openings from the kitchen into the living room...like a little window over the sink...most of the houses here have them. Ours even has shutters. The point being that we leave the light over the sink on as a night light and so I can sit on the couch and read by that light.

 

144

The libtard down the street was telling me how she would have liked to have bought LED lights for her decorations but they were so expensive!

No shit sherlock.

145 Your understanding is not correct. Since the Al Qaeda AUMF, the military has had the authority to detain Al Qaeda combatants, regardless of whether they are U.S. citizens and regardless of their location at the time of apprehension. This measure didn't change that. All this measure did was ensure that Al Qaeda detainees are presumptively to be in the custody of the military. It put a slight (very watered down from the original intent of the drafters) restraint on the President's ability to transfer these detainees into civilian custody for trial in civilian courts. It did not alter their access to civilian courts for the purpose of habeas petitions. It also did not alter the possibility that they could be tried in military courts. Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 16, 2011 08:52 AM (XBUdh) hey anyone who takes up arms against the United States of America, whether a US Citizen or not, should rot in hell for all eternity without any rights what so ever. at least that's how I roll

146 SC Morons don't miss post 19 above. Important message.

147 My experience with the new "energy efficient" light bulbs is similar to leftard government: characterized by low output, exaggerated claims, excessive expense, and fit only for the trash can after a short life cycle.

148 Well shoot, Oblahblah lost two voters the other day: LAKELAND, Fla. (AP) - A couple who romanticized trains and lived a modern-day adventure by riding railroad cars across the U.S. were killed when a train dumped its load of coal at a Florida power plant. Ever since Christopher Artes was a teenager in suburban Maryland, he had an illegal and dangerous kind of wanderlust—hitching rides on trains. Over the summer, he fell in love with Medeana Hendershot, who shared his passion. They traveled from Georgia to Chicago, then back to Tennessee, with Artes sending his mother pictures along the way. They wanted to spend winter in Florida because it was warm. "If he had to die so young, at least he died at a moment where he was on top of the world," said Susan Artes, Christopher's mother. Artes, 25, and Hendershot, 22, were found Sunday in coal by power plant workers. It's not clear exactly when or how they died. Sometime over the weekend, the train pulled into the city of Lakeland's power plant in Central Florida. As the railcars arrive, the bottom opens and cars drop coal several stories below onto a waiting truck. Officials were not sure if the couple was sitting on top of the coal or were riding in an empty car and dropped onto a mound of coal, then hit or buried by another load. Artes died from asphyxiation, meaning he was likely buried alive. Hendershot died from blunt force trauma to the mid-section, so she could have been hurt falling or by coal falling on her. Artes was adopted when he was 5 days old. Growing up, he had dyslexia and other learning disorders, but he was a sweet boy, his mother said. He was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder but didn't like taking his medication. He used drugs and drank, but his mother said he had been clean in recent months. In high school, he embraced the punk rock scene and met some "traveler kids," his mother said. He started to dress in black and had a lot of different hair styles and colors. It was then he began climbing aboard freight trains for short trips, either to get around, or for the experience. This summer, with his girlfriend, he embarked on his longest trip yet, with no set plans other than the adventure. The couple wanted to stay in Florida, then return to Maryland for a visit with his family in the spring. "I don't recommend it and I encourage people not to do it," said Kevin Rice, of San Luis Obispo, Calif., who writes about his train hopping adventures from 20 years ago on his website. Rice listed the dangers of riding the rails: falling off the car, getting robbed by a vagrant, being jolted or crushed when the train's slack lessens. "It was a great deal of fun and adventure but we could have gotten killed," said Rice, now 43. He said he has heard of many different freight-hopping deaths, but nothing like the case of Artes and Hendershot. Since the invention of the railroad, people have sought travel and wander along the tracks. During the Great Depression, people jumped aboard to look for work or because it was the best way to get to another town. But unlike the Depression, modern-day riders have the advantage of cellphones. Artes called his mom three times a week. He would sometimes ask her to look up directions on the Internet for truck stops, grocery stores and other places while he was on the road. Artes' mother said her son had a train-hopping manual, but it was stolen at some point. She described her son as naive and trusting. When he and Hendershot were in Miami several weeks ago, a trucker with whom they had caught a ride with stole Artes' backpack. "We were always worried about him. He always made so many bad decisions," she said. "If he got an idea and something looked good to him, he would do it. He was always jumping into situations. This particular train was one of them. I'm sure they thought the train would go from one yard to another."

149   If you buy a 100 watt bulb designed for use at 130 volts you may only get the equivalent of 95 watts of light, a negligable difference, but it will literally last for years if not decades.  An incandescent does use about 6 times as much energy as a flourescent for the same number of lumines but seem to have a bit warmer light range.  The LED lights are much more energy efficient than either but are still too freaking expensive.  They are said to last about 35 years.  I'm not sure about their light spectrum.

150 Christopher Hitchens died. Mother Theresa currently kicking the crap out of him. If nothing else, he's finding out the hard way if he was right about atheism.

151 why are CFLs the alternative of choice, and not LEDs.

Cost, I believe.  As expensive as CFLs are, LEDs are worse.

152 Another waste of money going "green":

Electric car charging stations coming to Pa. Turnpike

The grant recipient, Car Charging Group LLC, will install charging stations at 17 Turnpike service plazas.

"Pennsylvania has been -- and will continue to be -- a nationwide leader on energy issues in all sectors," DEP Secretary Mike Krancer said in the release.The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection today said a $1 million grant will be awarded to help develop electric vehicle infrastructure on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, according to a state news release.
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Anybody want to bet Car Charging Group LLC has Democrat connections?

153 I hope IKEA has to eat all those zillions of useless CFLs they fill their stores with I never see anyone buying them!

154 I tried CFLs in some fixtures that were a pain-in-the-ass to do bulb replacements and was very disappointed in the lifetime and light quality.

Posted by: Jean at December 16, 2011 08:52 AM (WkuV6)

If you were using the early first generation CFLs yes, they were crap. Took a long time to warm up, produced shitty light, and did not last long at all.

The new ones are a lot better, not to mention a lot cheaper too. And as I said, the one in my reading lamp next to my chair, which is on virtually all day ( 4 am to 9 pm or so) has been going for 2.5 years now.

155 If nothing else, he's finding out the hard way if he was right about atheism.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 16, 2011 08:56 AM (j43Uz)

considering his track record i'd say he's fucked

156 BTW, I have a 15W one in my stove hood lamp now I am trying out. I use it as a night light in the kitchen. It gets turned off and on more and isn't on except at night. It has been in for about a year so far.

157 I hate CFL's. The ones I have had do not last at all--less than an incandescent. Then I have to go take them somewhere to be disposed (more work for me, and it involves getting into my fossil fuel powered vehicle and emitting Co2. I do have some under cabinet LED lighting that I love in my kitchen, and the majority of my outdoor Christmas lights are LED too.

158

Highly enlightened Muslims perform radical mastectomies in Pockistan and feed the masses

These sick fks need to irradiated from the face of the earth.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

They need to die and the system that radicalizes them needs to die, painfully.

 

159

I installed flourescent bulbs in my house two years ago. I've never had to change one.

The biggest problem is that they don't fit in some light fixtures.

That's not to say I want incandescents banned, it's just that I'm one of the people who have had great luck with flourescent bulbs.

 

I installed two at my parents house for their lamp post lights 4-5 years ago when they came out and they're still there.

 

160 155 If nothing else, he's finding out the hard way if he was right about atheism.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 16, 2011 08:56 AM (j43Uz)

considering his track record i'd say he's fucked

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 16, 2011 08:58 AM (yAor6)

What a waste of a soul. It was so important to him to hate-hate God that he loses eternity. Sick really. Maybe a pass for being an insane fucktard?

161 Anybody want to bet Car Charging Group LLC has Democrat connections?

Who the heck wants to park at a service station for 4 hours?  Isn't that the fastest electrics can charge safely anyway?

162 "Pennsylvania has been -- and will continue to be -- a nationwide leader on energy issues in all sectors," DEP Secretary Mike Krancer said in the release.The Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection today said a $1 million grant will be awarded to help develop electric vehicle infrastructure on the Pennsylvania Turnpike, according to a state news release. Funny that, but who's going to pay that electric bill? Will they have to raise the rates on everyone or institute a new tax to give free electricity to one per centers? The only people who can afford those expensive, worthless vehicles are wealthy people who use those as an extra (usually third) car. Absolute idiocy. Like I am often heard screaming, "Where the eff do these idiots think electricity comes from?"

163 hey anyone who takes up arms against the United States of America, whether a US Citizen or not, should rot in hell for all eternity without any rights what so ever. at least that's how I roll

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2011 08:54 AM (i6RpT)

Hey I agree with that, and grabbing someone on the battlefield in the 'Stan is evidence for that.  But as I understood this new bill it allowed them to pick up someone in the U.S. who had been classified as a "terrorist", and hold them without trial permanently.

Do you trust the Obamanites, or their like, in classifying terrorists?

164 Well I have never had much problems with CFLs, other than the PITA it is to dispose of them.  Can't throw them in the trash, and local recycling place won't accept them.  So I am just collecting a pile of burnt out ones that I will recycle... at some point, maybe?  I don't know.  Maybe when the apocalypse come I can use the mercury inside as a medium of exchange.

165 Oh, and when these expensive toys sustain some kind of damage from some kind of current mishap or surge, who is on the hook for that?

166 Who the heck wants to park at a service station for 4 hours?  Isn't that the fastest electrics can charge safely anyway?

I think there are quickie-chargers that will only take the car up to something like 80% of full charge, but it takes only about like 1/2 hour or something.

167

What a waste of a soul. It was so important to him to hate-hate God that he loses eternity. Sick really. Maybe a pass for being an insane fucktard?

Posted by: dagny at December 16, 2011 09:02 AM (tb5pQ)

meh Im more pissed w/ him being a dick about his atheism then being an atheist. Not to mention his constant ripping into the right.

168 Hey I agree with that, and grabbing someone on the battlefield in the 'Stan is evidence for that. But as I understood this new bill it allowed them to pick up someone in the U.S. who had been classified as a "terrorist", and hold them without trial permanently. Do you trust the Obamanites, or their like, in classifying terrorists? Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:03 AM (YdQQY) He'll be gone soon

169 Funny that, but who's going to pay that electric bill?

I don't know, but I'd guess you have to feed it $5.00 (or something) for the charger to work.

I honestly don't mind if idiots want to drive electric cars.  I don't even mind if they do it on the highway, as long as they stay in the right hand lane while those of us in real cars drive past them.  But it incenses me to no end that I'm footing at least part of the bill for them to drive that car in the first place (Fed, and probably State, subsidies, after all).

170 Personally, I always thought Hitchens was an articulate asshole, and little more.

171
If you buy a 100 watt bulb designed for use at 130 volts you may only get the equivalent of 95 watts of light, a negligable difference, but it will literally last for years if not decades.

The higher the voltage rating, the thinner the filament. I have a 12 volt work light (clips onto my car battery) that uses a special incandescent bulb with a very thick filament. Thinking about it, I'm gonna have to check the wattage on the bulb to see if I have to stock up on them. I wouldn't be surprised if they're already illegal.

172 Personally, I always thought Hitchens was an articulate asshole, and little more.

Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2011 09:05 AM (OlN4e)

which might be why Allah just loved himself some Hitchens

173

Uh oh. The water dept. is back in the neighborhood with their dump truck. Gonna dig up someone else's front yard and have our water off for a few hours again.

Pipes are going, foundations are failing. Great stinking neighborhood I picked.

174 thanks author

175 hey anyone who takes up arms against the United States of America, whether a US Citizen or not, should rot in hell for all eternity without any rights what so ever. at least that's how I roll

I don't.  Not at all.  Think about what you're saying there.  Now imagine a loyal British citizen in the colonies saying that circa 1773. 

Let's be sure to label terrorists "terrorists" and keep our condemnation for that specific group.  Simply "raising up arms against the United States" does not (necessarily) equal "terror."

Of course, if you do it and lose, you're guilty of treason and will be treated accordingly.  And should be.

176 Can't throw them in the trash, and local recycling place won't accept them.

When stupid States do that shit it is time for shoot, shovel, and shutup. Except that in this case you don't have to shoot it.

Put them in with kitchen garbage making sure that nothing with your name out address is in with it and throw them out. I'll guarantee that they are unlikely to sift through kitchen garbage looking for lamps.

177 Let's be sure to label terrorists "terrorists" and keep our condemnation for that specific group. Simply "raising up arms against the United States" does not (necessarily) equal "terror." Of course, if you do it and lose, you're guilty of treason and will be treated accordingly. And should be. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:08 AM (8y9MW) I hear what your saying. But I kinda like what the supreme court said about porn. They can't define it, but they know it when they see it. Same things with terrorists, may be hard to define, But I know it when I see it.

178 He'll be gone soon

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2011 09:05 AM (i6RpT)

Yes, but I am sure we will have another like him eventually. The government should not have this power and it is blatantly unconstitutional.

179 Man oh man do I wish I could have been there when Christian Bale got roughed up by some chicom guards!

Oh wait I can, because CNN was nice enough to shoot video of it!

awesome!

180 hey anyone who takes up arms against the United States of America, whether a US Citizen or not, should rot in hell for all eternity without any rights what so ever. at least that's how I roll

Posted by: nevergiveup at December 16, 2011 08:54 AM (i6RpT)

You really didn't devote a lot of thought to that statement prior to typing, did you?

181 Yes, but I am sure we will have another like him eventually. The government should not have this power and it is blatantly unconstitutional. Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:11 AM (YdQQY) I'm not a lawyer and most of what I said was tongue in cheek.....

182

I've never had a problem with shorter than advertised CFL life spans, that quite a few people complain about. I think it is because I never turn them off. Power cycles shorten the life of CFL much more than incandescent.

This, however, make the energy usage of CFL much harder to calculate. You have to consider a CFL 'burning' 24/7 vs an incandescent being used when only when you turn it on. You have to consider how much of the time you the incandescent will burn because your too lazy to go turn it off(this is me!). I view CFLs and incandescent as a push in energy usage. Although many people complain about light quality, I don't have a problem with it. However, I could just be insensitive to light quality effects.

  I use CFL for 2 reasons.

1) They do last longer and the fixtures in my house a pain in the ass to change the bulb in (10ft ceilings that you have to drag the ladder out every time you have to change a bulb). (short answer, I'm lazy)

2) I don't want to think about turning the lights out. (again short answer, I'm lazy)

   I view CFLs as a bridge tech until LED lighting becomes cost effective. I don't have a problem with people not adopting it, and I think it is quite an overstep that congress is banning 100w incandescent.

183 About 10 years ago, I bought CFL for my home office. I hated the color but it saved me from changing the light bulbs so often. Unfortunately, they were so big, they didn't fit in the light fixture. Now, they are much smaller. But I swear I have only had to change it once in 10 years. Other than that, I would never use them anywhere else in my home.

184 You really didn't devote a lot of thought to that statement prior to typing, did you? Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2011 09:13 AM (OlN4e) Not this early in the morning and anyway it was mostly tongue in cheek

185 Same things with terrorists, may be hard to define, But I know it when I see it.

The problem here (and with the SC's Porn decision) is that the law should hinge on definitions.  If you can't define porn (which, btw, really isn't that hard to define), then you shouldn't be able to craft legislation against it.

"Terrorism" is the same way.  The label "Terrorist" is a great evocative term, and it conveys much that might otherwise be cumbersome to communicate, but if it can't be "defined," then you can't legislate against it specifically.

And I agree that anyone who takes up arms against the US is an enemy combatant and should be handled by the military, for the record, it was the "no rights whatsoever" that I was disagreeing with.  Well, that and the "rot in hell," part.  I don't even hope Mr. Hitchens is rotting in Hell, though I suspect he is.

186 We're at the Walmart,  get away from that Hyundai and go into the back of the store.

187

Not to mention his constant ripping into the right.

He was an equal opportunity ripper.  And that earns my respect.

188 it was the "no rights whatsoever" that I was disagreeing with. Well, that and the "rot in hell," part. I don't even hope Mr. Hitchens is rotting in Hell, though I suspect he is. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (8y9MW) yeah but it felt so good to type those words

189 Funny,

Nikki Haley, one of the most conservative of politicians, endorses a politician, and the usual suspects, want to throw her under the bus,

isn't it.

190 We're at the Walmart,  get away from that Hyundai and go into the back of the store.

Posted by: Vic's wifey at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (nPNjl)

WTF???

191 is that your stalker vic?

192 I never got the Hitchens fellating by people on the right.  I always found him to be unremarkable, even when he was talking about radical Islam. If I were the last-minute choice to eulogize Hitchens, the nicest thing I could think to say is, "He knew many fancy words and was not completely bald." He pissed away the gift of life. Willfully. And fucking bragged about it. "I'm drinking and smoking myself to death, but with a British accent, which makes me sophisticated!" From a Christian perspective, that's using your free will, true - but like spitting in the face of God. From an atheist perspective, it's just a stupid way to live. This is all the time you have and you deliberately shorten it? What a dumbfuck. That's the difference between knowledge and wisdom, kiddies. Or between being a man with discipline and character or being a chubby little weakling who's trying to drink away his daddy issues. Well, I guess you succeeded, dipshit. You deserve all the respect you showed Ronald Reagan after his death: ZERO.

193 A supposed affair, the Times never gives it up.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the 1% at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (hXJOG)

Mr. Nixon was supposedly involved in the Watergate cover up

194

Sock off.

195 yeah but it felt so good to type those words

Ah.  Visceral satisfaction I can understand.

196 is that your stalker vic?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 16, 2011 09:18 AM (Ho2rs)

I don't know, different hash.

197

Do you trust the Obamanites DC government , or their like (DHS, DoJ, DoS, BATF), in classifying terrorists?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:03 AM (YdQQY)

I have absolute faith in the integrity of our appointed unaccountable regulators!

198 I haven't had to replace one CF bulb I've put in in the last three years. I don't know why everyone else is having trouble with them, but they work fine in my home. And I have to replace incandescent bulbs all the time. It's remarkable how much longer the CF bulbs are lasting.

199

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 16, 2011 09:18 AM (vzFJV)

+1

Im amazed at all the dicksucking by folks on the right after his death.

200 201 barney tmi buddy....tmi.....

201 From an atheist perspective, it's just a stupid way to live. This is all the time you have and you deliberately shorten it?

From a truly philosophical atheist perspective (one where you actually understand that if there is no Creator, then there is no will, for instance) it would be said he had no choice- it was just how he was.

I love to point out to atheists that the very fact they can reason at all disproves atheism.  It's fun.

202 What I dont get is why LEDs cost more the CFLs? The LEDs themselves are cheap to make, the support electronics should be dirt cheap, and the CFLs are mechanically complex. If you stood back and looked at costs - the LED should be less or at least the same as the the CFL

203 In the basement and shop I am going with the full spectrum T-8 fixtures. These are fairly inexpensive from Lowes and HD. Otherwise I would replace single bulb bases with multiple units. I refuse to be in the dark, at least literally.

204

 I don't know why everyone else is having trouble with them, but they work fine in my home

We have bright ones in the bathroom, so I guess they are getting turned on and off a lot. One goes out every couple months.

Eh...I just counted...we have 18 of them in the bathrooms. I don't think I want to add up how much we've spent on them in two years.

205 Im amazed at all the dicksucking by folks on the right after his death.

Actually, it's called "being gracious."  Christopher Hitchens was at least somewhat "on our side" (if only in the sense that he didn't actively oppose Conservative values), and, so, he get's the gracious send away.

In a day or two, you'll start getting the posts (by the same people singing his praises today) that start, "As much as I admired Hitchens... " and then go on to criticize him.  In a couple of years, they'll start leaving off that first phrase.

206 Certainly not enough to justify the much higher price, even when factoring in the decreased energy use

Decreased energy use? My apartment up in WI had electric baseboard heat, but not in the bathroom.  Wicked freezing in the morning six months out of the year.
I'd wake up, turn on the bathroom lights, and go blog for an hour until it was warm enough to shower.

How much energy does an electric space heater use compared to an incandescent lightbulb?

Yeah, yeah, I know, those of us miserable worthless creatures who live in "not California" are expected to suffer for Al Gore's ego.

207

But as I understood this new bill it allowed them to pick up someone in the U.S. who had been classified as a "terrorist", and hold them without trial permanently.

Not "permanently." Indefinitely. There's a difference. Detention under these circumstances includes the ability to petition the courts for release. Your fears that the Obama Administration or a later administration could just sweep people up off the streets without recourse to the courts have no basis in fact or law.

 

208 (Hi, everyone! IT has decided to give me access to the HQ for Christmas.  Bwahaha.)

209 In a couple of years, they'll start leaving off that first phrase.

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:24 AM (8y9MW)

No, In a couple of years, people will just never think about Hitchens at all. As a matter of fact, I'm already there.

210

This thread is starting to sound like one of those Tebow-inspired mobs that roam the countryside looking for atheists to beat up. 

I think IÂ’ll go hide with Ace until the heatÂ’s off.

211 The flourescents last 2-3 years, which is the only reason I use them. I seriously doubt they save any money given the $5-7 cost each instead of 50 cents, even best case scenario its a break even on cost. May save in electrical use but the fact that they are 20 watt, I leave them on three times as much. Plus all of the circutry and poison chemicals involved natually makes them less safe.

212 In a couple of years, they'll start leaving off that first phrase.

I already did one of those about how people on the Hitchens thread were gloating over his death. My response is that even though I disagreed with a lot of his stuff, gloating over someones death should be reserved someone really despicable like Jane Fonda.

213 Merry Christmas HeatherRadish!

214

Actually, it's called "being gracious." 

I have a fairly strict 24-hours policy, during which I don't speak ill of the dead out of respect for the fact that someone has died and they probably had loved ones who are hurting. I made an exception for bin Laden.

 

215 How much energy does an electric space heater use compared to an incandescent lightbulb?

That is the crux of the issue. Replacing CFls to save energy usage nationwide is ludicrous. Not only is it a small fraction of home use but it is not even a piss in the ocean for actual national energy use.

Commercial and industrial electric use is where the load comes from.

216

How much energy does an electric space heater use compared to an incandescent lightbulb?

You should have heard me yelling at the tv when Disney produced an entire show to get kids to turn off an effing 6o watt bulb. With stars who have their own jets.

And I just mumble under my breath when my husband fusses at me about leaving a light on but leaves his laptop open for hours when he's not using it.

217 169 Funny that, but who's going to pay that electric bill? I don't know, but I'd guess you have to feed it $5.00 (or something) for the charger to work. Out here in Seattle (of course!) King County (renowned for it's vast voter fraud in the 2004 election) is installing chargers at Park and Rides--so people can charge their cars for free while they commute on the bus. I know as a taxpayer, I will somehow be on the hook for that while people like my friend who just got a Volt (their third car, hubby has some great job at Microsoft, and they own a big ass, newer, beautiful house on thenlake) charge that car for free. It makes my blood boil!

218 This thread is starting to sound like one of those Tebow-inspired mobs that roam the countryside looking for atheists to beat up.  I think I’ll go hide with Ace until the heat’s off I don't think Ace would enjoy your company, Palinisto.

219 I'd wake up, turn on the bathroom lights, and go blog for an hour until it was warm enough to shower. We have two small bathroom, both have those 4 bulb vanities. We have the heater go down for parts, those rooms were toasty, the buddy heater did not warm the bedroom up like those bulbs did.

220 maybe hitch did have a deathbed conversion....in fact i hope he did and if he didn't well...at the very least i hope his soul is at rest......it's not like he was hitler...or stalin....he was just too smart for his own damn good.......

221 I don't know why everyone's getting upset over lightbulbs. If you call yourself a Moron, you should be making candles out of rendered hobo fat.

222 The grant recipient, Car Charging Group LLC, will install charging stations at 17 Turnpike service plazas.

Given all the B$ with the turnpike the cost of the electricity will probably be a trivial fraction of the toll.  They'll probably put the damn chargers right up front in good parking spaces though.  They've already got SMUG green reserved signs up front next to the handicapped places at the new New Stanton plaza.  There were "reserved for PA state police" signs before.  I have to remember it for my next stop.  Put the GTO in backwards and leave a dual black mark for em.

OTOH I think they've started putting truck overnight heat/power stations in the long lots where it will actually save some diesel.

223 Some of you people are just nasty, and you're awful enough to be glad I and others think so.

No, not most of you. But a few here are shit, and I specifically mean the ones who are glad Hitchens is dead (but in more profane language), insulted him, and/or expressed satisfaction that he's now in Hell.

224 220

Actually, it's called "being gracious."

I have a fairly strict 24-hours policy, during which I don't speak ill of the dead out of respect for the fact that someone has died and they probably had loved ones who are hurting. I made an exception for bin Laden.

----

Yeah, maybe he had one out his 50 siblings, or extended family that doesn't get all giddy over martyrdome.

225

Fluorescent light is unflattering and they contain mercury and are difficult to dispose of in a way that isn't harmful to the environment.

Sure, they are useful, but banning the incandescent IS NOT THE ANSWER FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

An incandescent can be dimmed, which saves energy and money. and incandescent bulbs are 100% recyclable. Also and incandescent bulb's components are not harmful to the environment if tossed into a land fill. You and I know damn well Americans throw compact fluorescents into the trash without thinking about the hazards.

We have a stupid stupid harmful government.

PS - the LED craze? LED are useful, but again, the energy used and negative environmental impact used to make one LED is far greater than the good old incandescent light bulb.

226

The light fixtures that are on the most in my home all have dimmer switches.  So I can save money by dimming them to the least amount of light necessary.  Rarely are these fixtures at 100%.

Have not yet seen (not looking, either) dimmable CFLs, though they were mentioned upthread.

Plus every fixture's label says 60 watt max.

227 Oh nooos! What happens to an organic, grassroots, populist movement when their funding dries up? Heh! Heh! From HA: Occupy Wall Street has taken in more than $665,000 in donations since it launched Sept. 17. HereÂ’s the bad news for Occupy: donations have fallen off a cliff, from a high of around $20,000 per day to a current low of just $98 on Dec. 13. The good news: the movement still has hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank, an impressive sum for an entity that has existed for a mere three monthsÂ… Total donated (10/1 to 12/13): $667,080 "In the heady days of early October, the movement was taking in $15,000-$20,000 per day. In a two-day period following the Oct. 15 day of action in cities around the world, OWS had receipts of $75,000. Daily donations fell to the four-figure range in November, and then to the three-figure range in December. On Dec. 12, the movement took in $321. On the 13th, the last day of public data, it took in $98. In chart form (click for full size):*"

228

I don't think Ace would enjoy your company, Palinisto.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 16, 2011 09:31 AM (vzFJV)

We could compare notes on “wishcasting”.  Me on Palin and Ace on Perry.

229

China makes most of the world's environmentally sickening and harmful products. They just pump the leftovers into their streams and rivers.

Thomas Freidman and by association the Obama administration think that is cool.

230 I think there are quickie-chargers that will only take the car up to something like 80% of full charge, but it takes only about like 1/2 hour or something.

How long will it take you to drive across PA if you have to stop every 30 miles for half an hour?  Lol.


One this day in 1773.

231 Have not yet seen (not looking, either) dimmable CFLs, though they were mentioned upthread.

I didn't see that upthread, but there are no "dimmable" CFLs. It is not possible. The only way you can do something like that is have fixture with multiple bulbs and vary the number on at one time.

232

>>THIS BILL IS BULLSHIT PEOPLE

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:02 AM (YdQQY)

_{Just quoted you on my utility and phone payments Vic.}

_{Thanks for the guidance.}

233 Yes, regardless of your belief system, if you believe in anything after this life - Mother Teresa and Hitchens are not going to be in the same place.

234 I contend that fluorescent bulbs don't last as long as incandescents, at least at my house. Compact fluorescent bulbs also don't work very well if the temperature is too low, so mostly useless outside in the winter.

235 Well, I'm wondering if I should drop by the local Voldemart to see if they have any good sales left. Maybe some Harry Pooter DVDs...

236 All fair to Hitch, he did take a beating in Lebanon for standing up against thugs (a moral but ill-advised stand).

237 I was told the florescent bulbs do last 7 years, provided you "don't turn them on and off frequently." Which, I guess, is another way of saying they will last pretty much forever, and save oogles of cash, if you don't turn them on at all.

238 Do you want you democracy NOW!? Stand up for democracy! Pay the OWSers to ruin your business and do nothing but loiter all day (plus a few rapes and stabbings for good measure) vote democrat!

239

Linked at InstaP:

DonÂ’t just repeat it. Report it.

ThatÂ’s the lesson this week for MSNBC and for The Washington Post, both of which apologized for repeating a liberal blogÂ’s claim that Mitt Romney had uttered a phrase on the campaign stump that was used in the past by the Ku Klux Klan.

Oh, yeh, like they give a rat f*ck about being good journalists. "Oops" my ass.

240 Oh, and Happy Birthday Beethoven.

241 I contend that fluorescent bulbs don't last as long as incandescents, at least at my house. Compact fluorescent bulbs also don't work very well if the temperature is too low, so mostly useless outside in the winter.

I have one on the front porch and back porch. Been out for about a year ad no problem. Also have CFL flood lights in the front that burn every night. I have gone through one winter already and into another one. Again no problems.

242

“Compact fluorescent bulbs also don't work very well …”

Posted by: jm at December 16, 2011 09:39 AM (VwhRo)

The best example was Tom Hanks in “Joe and the Volcano”.  Fluorescent bulbs “suck the life out of you”.

243 We're at the Walmart,  get away from that Hyundai and go into the back of the store.

Posted by: Vic's wifey at December 16, 2011 09:15 AM (nPNjl)

WTF???

Let me rework that sockpuppet joke re. tire peeing.

We're at in the Walmart parking lot, get away from that Hyundai and go to the restroom into the back of the store.

The hash sometimes changes when I cycle the DSL modem.

244 Have 2 Holiday parties to go to. At noon my office party and tonight my brother's party. Little worried about the latter. The bitch known as my ex will be there and my gf feels unsure if my sis in law will partake in chilidish party games she wants no part of.

I know nothing about the ins and outs of divorce etiquette, but why the heck would your brother invite your ex?  Even if kids are involved, I just don't see it. 

245 All fair to Hitch, he did take a beating in Lebanon for standing up against thugs (a moral but ill-advised stand).

Posted by: auscolpyr at December 16, 2011 09:40 AM (+KmL5)

That whole event strikes me as self-indulgent.

246 Posted by: DaveA at December 16, 2011 09:43 AM (nPNjl)

LOL, OK I get it now.

247 LED are useful, but again, the energy used and negative environmental impact used to make one LED is far greater than the good old incandescent light bulb. How can an LED have a worse environmental footprint then a CFL or even an incandescent -- just the volume of material used should should bias it towards LEDs, not even getting into coatings and all of the energy needed for the mechanical packaging under vacuum needed for the others.

248 Burn Notice and Psych are done until Spring. Big Bang off for a month. Boardwalk and soon Dexter and Homeland will be done until next fall. Lord knows when Justified is coming back and I heard that Breaking Bad will be off air for 1 1/2 to 2 years. Who the fuck comes up with these schedules??

249 How long will it take you to drive across PA if you have to stop every 30 miles for half an hour?  Lol.

Are the rest stops spaced close enough together to make it from one to the next? Imagine the side of the highway littered with electric cars waiting for the tow truck to come tow them to the next charging station...or will the government require the trucks to install portable charging stations? Geniuses.

250
In the basement and shop I am going with the full spectrum T-8 fixtures. These are fairly inexpensive from Lowes and HD.

Otherwise I would replace single bulb bases with multiple units.

I refuse to be in the dark, at least literally.

Posted by: sTevo at December 16, 2011 09:23 AM (FzVlt)

DON'T GO TO LOWE'S!!!!

I made that mistake, spent $100 on a fixture that was almost impossible to assemble and even worse to mount on the ceiling. I turned it on to check my handiwork and everything seemed fine. I turned it off and just before going upstairs I decided to turn it on again. The ballast blew.

I went to an electrical supply store and bought a nice looking fixture for $56.00 that was completely assembled and easy to install. I now have plenty of light (it was a four bulb fixture).
too bad the T-8s are only 32 watts. You can't buy new 40 watt fixtures anymore.

251 All fair to Hitch, he did take a beating in Lebanon for standing up against thugs (a moral but ill-advised stand). NO. What he did was endanger the lives of the guys he had with him as well as the poor fucking cabdriver that has to live (or die) with the consequences of that fat fuck's stupidity even now. Do you think that guy, if he hasn't been killed yet, is still looking over his shoulder? He had no right to drag everyone else into that bullshit. Everyone is so enamored of what he wrote. Big fucking whoop. A man isn't what he says, because words are fucking cheap. A man is what he DOES. And what Hitchens DID was foolish, unthinking and stupid at best, and at worst it was selfish, stupid and dangerous. Take your pick.

252 Are the rest stops spaced close enough together to make it from one to the next?

Maybe they get up enough speed and just coast to the next one?

Wait.  These are electric cars: no speed, and not enough mass to provide much momentum.

253

The problem here (and with the SC's Porn decision) is that the law should hinge on definitions.  If you can't define porn (which, btw, really isn't that hard to define),

I hereby volunteer to determine what is porn.  No, no, don't thank me, I'm a caring giver. 

 

254

Morning, all!

I searched but didn't see anyone mentioning this neat little "FU" from Netanyahu to the NY Times.  They asked him to write an op-ed, and as Weasel Zippers so accurately put it, he told them to go pound sand.

(link to the Jpost article)

...[Senior Adviser Ron] Dermer’s letter came a day after NYT columnist Thomas Friedman wrote that the resounding ovation Netanyahu received in Congress when he spoke there in May had been “bought and paid for by the Israel lobby.”

With Friedman clearly – but not solely – among those in mind, Dermer wrote that “the opinions of some of your regular columnists regarding Israel are well known. They constantly distort the positions of our government and ignore the steps it has taken to advance peace. They cavalierly defame our country by suggesting that marginal phenomena condemned by Prime Minister Netanyahu, and virtually every Israeli official, somehow reflect government policy or Israeli society as a whole.”

The whole letter is like that.  The fact that Netanyahu himself didn't send it, but had one of his advisers do it, is just icing on the cake.

I love Bibi. 

255

Are the rest stops spaced close enough together to make it from one to the next?

In PA?  Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.  No. 

I would love to see an all electric try to make it from Scranton to Pittsburgh.  Hell, I'd love to see one try to make it from Scranton to Wilkes Barre. 

 

256 What EoJ said.

257 What democrat gets money from the flourescent bulb industry? My kind of Democrap Now!

258 Are the rest stops spaced close enough together to make it from one to the next?

Heh, PA & OH are both redoing plazas from Youngstown to New Stanton so there's long sections 112 Miles Westbound, guessing 90 Eastbound on the Pittsburgh side of PA with no on pike stops.  Even with them all open I'd bet a current gen all electric Leaf can't make it thru the Alleghenies on 1 charge let alone over a single Rocky mtn.

259 And what Hitchens DID was foolish, unthinking and stupid at best, and at worst it was selfish, stupid and dangerous.

Take your pick.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 16, 2011 09:49 AM (vzFJV)

It was 100% about Hitchens, to reaffirm his self-styling as a 'humanist'.  And like a true moral man, he broadcast the story of his brave stand for all to see and congratulate him on.

260 @ Jeff,

Good point, but I was reading it from a third source."Fatima'

261
Hell, I'd love to see one try to make it from Scranton to Wilkes Barre. 

 

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 09:52 AM (VtjlW)

I'm sure it would make it. If you had enough people to push.

262

Are the rest stops spaced close enough together to make it from one to the next?

My sister lives in PA, and she and her husband are absolutely convinced it is populated by the most incompetent race of nincompoops this side of California (with the exception, of course, of the few sane Morons and Moronettes who also live there).  So I would say the answer to your question is a resounding NO.

263 We always used to have sword fights with the old fluorescent tubes. Now that I am older and wiser I will wear personal protective equipment. Sword fights gonna happen.

264 They don't last even as long as incandescents if you turn them on and off on a regular basis. AND THE NOISE. They flicker, they squeal, and cast the ugliest dim light possible. They don't turn on instantly, which is not so great for basement stairs or front stoops, or in any place actually. I hate them. I will not use them except in the summer house in summer when I am not there.

265

as EOJ said, i'm showing Hitchens as much respect as he did Reagan after his death: zero

complain all you want i'm a little happier w/o Hitch in the world

266

No, no, don't thank me, I'm a caring giver. 

What awesome Christmas spirit.

267 DOE must die, along with TSA and the department of Education.

268

The energy used to make one LED is far more than it takes to make one incandescent. I'm not anti LED. LED holds some promise, I think. I'm just suspicious of it all. When I buy incandescent bulbs, they usually come in corrugated paperboard.

 

269 It was 100% about Hitchens, to reaffirm his self-styling as a 'humanist'.  And like a true moral man, he broadcast the story of his brave stand for all to see and congratulate him on. I think it was less "brave stand" than "too fat, wheezy and out of shape to run fast and far enough to avoid the beating he earned."

270 DOE must die, along with TSA and the department of Education.

Posted by: SarahW at December 16, 2011 09:58 AM (LYwCh)

Show off.

271 I think the life of all type bulbs is piss poor. Incandescent bulbs used to last very long. Sometime around the 1999 or so the life just went into the toilet. I think manufacturers started reducing the vacuum level. CFL certainly don't last 10000 hours, not in normal use anyway. I tried the screw in halogen bulbs and they don't last long either.

272 278 DOE must die, along with TSA and the department of Education.

Posted by: SarahW at December 16, 2011 09:58 AM (LYwCh)

Please take the EPA too...

273 278 DOE must die, along with TSA and the department of Education. Posted by: SarahW at December 16, 2011 09:58 AM (LYwCh) Let's not forget the Department of Veteran's Affairs. It should revert back to the VA under the DOJ. While we're at it, a top to bottom evaluation of every single agency in the federal government should be undertaken, and plugs pulled as warranted. The EPA needs to be brought to heel, first and foremost. The bureaucratic punks that threatened the Congress need to be trashed.

274 I don't understand the need to spew venom at a dead person (barring someone like bin Laden).  The only ones you're hurting are the loved ones left behind in grief... oh, and possibly people who have had loved ones die of the same disease. 

275

All right, morones e moronitas, I'm off to take the kids somewhere Fun with a capital F (which means it's expensive).

276 I think it was less "brave stand" than "too fat, wheezy and out of shape to run fast and far enough to avoid the beating he earned."

Yeah.  I meant brave stand sarcastically.

Anybody know how much Mr. Morality donated in time and cash to help his fellow man?  I'm gonna guess he was more a 'speaker' kind of moralist, as in the kind who likes to get paid for his pronouncements.

277 Oh, Hitchens is dead and he wasn't an asshole on Iraq. Let's leave the corpse alone.

278 I've had terrible luck with CFL's. Our power company sent us a free dozen of them a while ago and that's the only reason I still have any in the house. And of course our city has one of  those stupid "drive to a recycling center that is only open 10-2 every other Wednesday to dispose of them" rule. Which means that in a couple years some regulatory agency will find unallowable mercury levels in our landfills and that will cost taxpayers countless millions of dollars. Stupidest fucking invention ever.

279 oh, and possibly people who have had loved ones die of the same disease. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2011 10:02 AM (5H6zj)

Sorry, I don't understand this at all.  How could attacking Hitchens on his character failures be construed as an attack against cancer patients?

280   I guess what the electric car propronents can't get through their dense little skulls is that unless an alternate energy source that eclipses all the advantages of oil, we'll see the IC engine dominant for the foreseeable future.  Same thing with wind and solar.  They are only feasible as adjuncts.

281
Which means that in a couple years some regulatory agency will find unallowable mercury levels in our landfills and that will cost taxpayers countless millions of dollars. Stupidest fucking invention ever.

Posted by: Lincolntf at December 16, 2011 10:06 AM (Qjh0I)

When you have hundreds of thousands of households throwing them in the trash, it's inevitable.

282 286 All right, morones e moronitas, I'm off to take the kids somewhere Fun with a capital F (which means it's expensive). Posted by: Mama AJ at December 16, 2011 10:03 AM (XdlcF) Friendly's? Get me a Sundae with Pistachios!

283 Regarding those free car chargers: Seems to me, the solution is to refit an old microwave to plug into them and turn it on and let it set and fry the electronics inside . . . .

284 I asked this last night on the virtually dead ONT, but I'll toss the question out again.  Do any hockey fans here have a recommendation as to best seats?  I want to surprise the man with ticket to our IHL team so I can't ask him.

I've read folks endorsing:

between blue lines, 10-15 rows back on main floor

near the penalty boxes (I've actually done this when I was a kid; I don't recall much about the game though)

at the club level (which I gather is sort of like the mezzanine)

behind the net at either the 10-15 rows main or at the first upper deck

and, interestingly (to me), right at the glass in any of the corners which is supposedly where the scouts sit


Any thoughts?  Money is no object. 

285 Something to file under the "Seemed Like a Good Idea at The Time, BUT,,," file: http://tinyurl.com/cf2fdqt

286 Well folks, time to drive over to the city and get the pump removed. BBL

287

I'd like to express my condolences to Mr. Hitchens' family.  I may not have agreed with everything he said or did, and he may have made me furious at times, but it is always painful to lose a loved one.  I hope that his friends and family are able to mourn and move on in due course.

288 Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2011 10:10 AM (5H6zj)

I recommend that first one: Between the blue-lines, 10-15 rows back.  Maybe a little closer than that, but not much, and certainly not much further back, either.

289 Sorry, I don't understand this at all.  How could attacking Hitchens on his character failures be construed as an attack against cancer patients?

I didn't say cancer patients.  Nor did I say attack.

But if you've had a loved one die of a horrifying disease like that, people making light of it or relishing in the anguish it caused the hated person can be a very painful reminder. 

290 Any thoughts? Money is no object. Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2011 10:10 AM (5H6zj) Well, now that you mention it I'm thinking a guy could have himself a pretty good time with the Christina Hendricks Twins in Vegas...

291 Oh, I got you, Bevel. I told everyone here I would piss on Hitchens' grave over a year ago, and I may be an asshole, but goddamit, I am NOT a liar. Two days after Ronald Reagan's death, Hitchens eulogized him as a "cruel and stupid lizard." A man whose ACTIONS freed tens of millions of people in Eastern Europe is a "cruel and stupid lizard", but I'm supposed to admire Hitchens for his fucking turn of phrase? Fuck that and fuck him. He was a fucking pinko commie-symp to the end. THAT is why he hated Reagan: because he put paid to Hitchens' boy-crush for communism.

292 297 Well folks, time to drive over to the city and get the pump removed. BBL Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 10:11 AM (YdQQY) Take care, Vic.

293 But go ahead.  Get your hate on, by all means folks.  The only one listening is God and innocent people.  Seems a bit stupid to me. 

294 between blue lines, 10-15 rows back on main floor


that's where my season's are for the Amerks. love them and wouldn't swap em for nothin

295 Hitchens struck me as an empty and angry egotist that feared that his eternal reward would deprive him of his only sacraments, whiskey and cigarettes.

296 I love to point out to atheists that the very fact they can reason at all disproves atheism. It's fun. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 09:21 AM (8y9MW) How so?

297 Something to file under the "Seemed Like a Good Idea at The Time, BUT,,," file:

Ha! No doubt that looks like the ideal design to every gun grabber.

298 302 Hate the fucker too for a myriad of reasons, that being one. I hope he's standing in hell with a copy of "God is not Great (Communism is)" as he writhes. Asshole.

299 Posted by: Unclefacts Out Of Commenting Retirement Just For This One Thing

Thanks. 

I'm leaning that way, but I was intrigued by the corner seats.  I like the idea of being near the glass (as I recall, it was cool being near the glass at the Caps game I attended a zillion years ago) and it was also interesting that the claim was you can see the whole ice from a player's perspective.  Also, you don't have to turn your head back and forth as much.

300

Im amazed at all the dicksucking by folks on the right after his death.

Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 16, 2011 09:20 AM (yAor6)

It's a common flaw in the conservative character - excessive and undue mercy for the enemy (part of why we lose so many elections that we should win).  This happens almost every time some Leftist passes - people come out with the expressions of sympathy.  When Barney Frank dies, it'll be the same thing. Sombody will be saying "Bleeding to death because a gerbil tore up your insides is such a horrible way to go, and I feel SO BAD for that guy, cuz he was such a nice, well spoken Leftist who just sorta disagreed with us some times and was generally a good American.  And think of all the good things he did at some point in his life!" 

I don't get pleasure from their deaths (usually) but I certainly can't spare a Leftist any pity when they go.  More than half of them would shove people like us into gas chambers given the chance.  If you think the people the Nazis had running the camps were some kind of statistical abberation, think again. 

I don't know what happened to Mr. Hitchens, spiritually speaking.  Frankly, since I didn't know the guy and had no chance or responsibility to help him in that area, I can't really give it much thought.  But in terms of my practical day to day life, he's just one less enemy to plague me.  And any man who denigrates the memory of Ronald Reagan is beneath contempt to begin with. 

301 I love to point out to atheists that the very fact they can reason at all disproves atheism.

Pick up that thigh bone.

302 Since it will be a Marxist regime who is defining who the "Terrorists" are; what could possibly go wrong?

I am sure that Holder thinks Issa is a terrorist, that all the comment writers on this blog are terrorists, and, of course, everyone knows about the Tea Party Terrorists.

Of course the president's good friend Bill Ayers (who was you know like an actual terrorist) wants to detain 25,000,000 of us permanently in small underground wooden boxes, or in ditches to be filled in by bulldozers.

Say what are the chances of a brokered convention this time, maybe we could get McCain to run against Obama again and tell us how we have nothing to fear from our Marxist in Chief.

303 Y-Not, In the corners close to the glass is a good spot. You can feel the impacts and that's where most of the body-checking takes place. And this was a while ago, but if someone were to yell at a goalie like Sean Burke and mention, perhaps... Something about not beating his wife when he gets home, because it's not HER fault that he sucks... They can hear you.

304 LEDs Baby! No fuss, no muss, prices are dropping and they last much longer!
Just keep checking sites like Newegg and Lowes, LEDs are routinely dropping below $20 and thanks to Moore's law will keep going down while getting more efficient.
And Obama's a SCOAMF!

305 Yeah, now it seems like I'm expected to drive to some creepy area south of downtown LA and pay money to dispose of shit. Most people won't do it and I don't see why I have to do it either.

306

Completely O/T:  Here's today's Christmas music selections - there's a decidedly "Cosmopolitan" feel to today's post:

My Advent Calendar of Music – Day #16: Happy Hour http://t.co/MXfbaJjg

(All "secular" music today)

307 I bought a small led flashlight that I have attached to my keys which I like. I was impressed with the light it gave off.

308

These sick fks need to irradiated from the face of the earth.

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 07:03 AM (YdQQY)

 

This issue deserves a lot more attention that it gets.  This proves what anyone with a brain has always known; the breat chopping done in Africa was not an "African" thing.  It's a muslim thing.  Expect to see more and more of this as time passes.  A woman is condemned for breast feeding a baby in the privacy of her own home.  Not only that, the horror that followed which is so satanic that it beggars belief.  This is islam's true face.  Furthermore, this is islam world-wide.  All of them who are true believers are capable of this, including those in the US. 

Get rid of them.  Not one mosque should be allowed to stand on US soil.  The constitution itself should be changed to single out those bastards as having no rights to be here.  They should be disenfranchised and expelled, at the very least.

309

So Haley has decided she can't be part of the solution, so she should be a part of the problem.  Wonderful. 

The nice thing about elections is that 90% of the time, the Democrat AND the Republican are lying to you about how conservative they are.  It's the consistency that I enjoy.

310 274 We always used to have sword fights with the old fluorescent tubes. Now that I am older and wiser I will wear personal protective equipment. Sword fights gonna happen.
__________

Ya know, if you go find a high tension line you might be able to have lightsaber fights. I've seen a greenie show complaining about electrical fields that involved flourescents spontaneously lighting up under a high-tension line.

311 Just bought at Target Superman "man of steel" boxer briefs for hubby. I find this amusing which he, in his lawyerly uptight buttondowned way will not. That will double my enjoyment.

312 Also, Y-Not, here's Christopher Hitchens' own words: "For a lot of people, their first love is what they'll always remember. For me it's always been the first hate, and I think that hatred, though it provides often rather junky energy, is a terrific way of getting you out of bed in the morning and keeping you going. If you don't let it get out of hand, it can be canalized into writing. In this country where people love to be nonjudgmental when they can be, which translates as, on the whole, lenient, there are an awful lot of bubble reputations floating around that one wouldn't be doing one's job if one didn't itch to prick." If there was ever a "bubble reputation", it was Hitchens'. According to him, I'm just doing my job. And I'm not reveling in his death. I'm showing my disgust at the way he LIVED. And the way he so scornfully wasted the gift of life.

313

An incandescent bulb may burn for 750 to 2,500 hours, while a compact fluorescent can last up to 10,000 hours, according to the Energy Department. (emphasis added)

Heh. Try matching this incandescent bulb.

Pssst. _{Made in the USA.}

314 Yeah, now it seems like I'm expected to drive to some creepy area south of downtown LA and pay money to dispose of shit. Most people won't do it and I don't see why I have to do it either.

Posted by: mike at December 16, 2011 10:20 AM (0hdwM)

 

I just throw them in the trash.  Screw it.  If they want to dig through my trash and prove I did it, let them. 

Of course, soon they will.  We'll be like England, where the garbage police make sure there are recycleables in your recycle bin, and if you don't have enough they fine you and threaten to put you in jail.  They also make sure your huge, ugly, bright-colored trash bins for each special kind of garbage are prominently displayed and degrading the aesthetic value of your house.

Thanks Leftards!  You're really saving the F-ing world!  By making it into a hell hole no one would want to live in. 

315 In the corners close to the glass is a good spot. You can feel the impacts and that's where most of the body-checking takes place.

Thanks EoJ.   Yeah, I should take a flier and try it.  We haven't been following this team and it's local so we can always check out other seats next time.  From what I read you can still follow the action well. 

Back in the day (when I was still doing the professor-bit) I was the faculty advisor for our polo club.  Real polo, with horses.  And I can tell you that's a really exciting sport at the collegiate level because it's conducted in smaller, indoor arenas.  So talk about excitement having the "players" crash into the boards.

316 For the Liberal Asshats saying: "Why are you upset about Fast and Furious, I thought guns don't kill people, people kill people"

We aren't trying to arrest the guns for the murder of 300 Mexicans and Brian Terry - we're trying to get the people who supplied the guns to a bunch of psychopathic serial killers.

317

Did anyone catch this?  Some guy was arrested in New York for declaring an unloaded gun in his luggage because his CCW license from California isn't valid in NY.  Oh, yeah- he's a bigwig in the Tea Party Patriots group, so OF COURSE that was the first thing mentioned:

http://is.gd/fPDVq9

Prosecutors charged Mark Meckler, the co-founder of Tea Party Patriots, with felony weapons possession after he told a Delta ticket agent early Thursday morning that he had a weapon in his luggage.

Meckler was carrying an unloaded Glock pistol and numerous rounds of ammunition in a locked gun box, according to multiple reports.

MecklerÂ’s attorney, Brian Stapleton, said Meckler had a concealed-carry permit for the gun issued by California, and that Meckler was in temporary transit through New York.

But the California permit wasnÂ’t valid in New York.

“He legally declared his possession of the firearm in his checked baggage at the ticket counter as required by law and in a manner approved by TSA and the airline, yet was arrested by port authority for said possession,” Stapleton said in a statement.

318 Just keep checking sites like Newegg and Lowes, LEDs are routinely dropping below $20 and thanks to Moore's law will keep going down while getting more efficient. I just bought two of the new Philips 40W equivalents for an outside fixture that is hell for replacing lamps. One of the two CFLs I installed last year malfunctioned in about 13 months. They are the bizarre-looking yellow/orange bulbs, and they emit warm, white light. They run about $21 at Home Depot. They are marked dimmable, but I do not have a dimmer on that fixture. If they last even a quarter of the 25,000 hours claimed, then they will be a bargain because it takes about 45 minutes to change the lamps if everything goes right, and I equate that to about $15 of labor. The trick to the lamps is they separated the phosphor coating from the LEDs that stimulate them to emit warm, white light and thereby avoid the phosphor breakdown acceleration due to heat. Please note that they are not rated for completely enclosed fixtures.

319 Who the heck wants to park at a service station for 4 hours?  Isn't that the fastest electrics can charge safely anyway?

That is why they should install charging stations at brothels and gay bathhouses along with with dull fluorescent lighting.

320
A 1.200 page page discretionary spending bill, once again railroaded through Congress at the last minute, without time for review or analysis by voters.

Thanks Republicans.

321 How so?

Posted by: eman at December 16, 2011 10:14 AM (kEKwc)

Short Version (the long version is really long): Reason cannot arise from non-reason (on its own).  Therefore, if there is not some Ultimate Reason from which our own reasoning is derived, our reasoning is not "reason" at all, but the pre-ordained (for lack of a better term) firing of neurons simply responding to the stimuli they are presented.

If we aren't created, and therefore arose by chance, no one could ever have done anything any differently than they did, because they're simply acting out the drives of their quantum-physical nature.  We could no more choose our own actions than a pool ball could choose which direction to go when struck by a cue.

322

Oh, lovely.  OWS has released a "Police Brutality" coloring book.

(link to WZ)

What I find hilarious is that they state quite clearly that the coloring book is "not for children."  Ah, so apparently coloring books are a staple passtime at all those trendy little coffee houses where leftists gather and pule to each other about the Big Bad People Who Don't Like Them.  Nice to know they keep their entertainment options at a level their infantile minds can comprehend.

323

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, TX at December 16, 2011 10:31 AM (0xqzf)

 

Just goes to show, we're getting to the point where the "authorities" are just looking for loopholes and ambiguities in the law to do whatever they feel like.  The US is well on its way to arbitrary rule of the powerful. 

 

324 323 Hitchens was famous because he was one of the very few willing to show just  how evil he truly was. It's as if the Screwtape letters were his roadmap.

325 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 10:33 AM (8y9MW)

We will be arguing with 'scientists' in ten years that consciousness exists, because my guess is most of them won't believe it does.

326 A morning without doom is like a morning without coffee.  Nothing to get my BP up.

327 It's not just lightbulbs, BTW. One more ObamneyCare nugget just hit the radar, as well - my co-blogger has a disturbing expose of the Early Retiree Reimbursement Program, including analysis which suggests that the program was an expensive "Thank You" to the President's union supporters.

328 Re Haley: The Weekly Standard is reporting her approval rating is 34% in SC.  Is that really true?

Also, is there any chance DeMint will change his mind and endorse... I would hope... Perry? 

329

I just throw them in the trash.  Screw it.  If they want to dig through my trash and prove I did it, let them. 

There was a town around here that was going to do the UK put trackers on your trash thing.  End result?  A new city council was elected based on their positions of not just no but hell no. 

330

Oh, lovely.  OWS has released a "Police Brutality" coloring book.

But it comes with crayons!

They're all Police Car-Shitter Brown.

331 Go ahead put a gizmo on my trash. Let's see how long is "works". Is it fire and water resistant? High heat? Spray adhesive? Let's roll--I have several good ideas.

332

There was a town around here that was going to do the UK put trackers on your trash thing. End result? A new city council was elected based on their positions of not just no but hell no.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 10:36 AM (VtjlW)

 

Thank you for sharing that.  God bless America!  The more rightward-leaning parts, anyway.  Still, the idea that there were elected pukes wanting to implement such a scheme in this country is chilling.

333

Yes, LED's. The light you cant see, unless you look directly at the bulb and become blinded. IOW, the GOD light.

334 >>We could no more choose our own actions than a pool ball could choose which direction to go when struck by a cue.

Amazing, that's the exact defense that I used to use with my old man as a boy.


_{....he always seemed to have a couple of cues for me held in reserve btw}

335
heh.  Someone might want to change the very top amazon link, considering the second link.  I suggest the first goes to 3 wolf moon shirts.

336 Short Version (the long version is really long): Reason cannot arise from non-reason (on its own). Therefore, if there is not some Ultimate Reason from which our own reasoning is derived, our reasoning is not "reason" at all, but the pre-ordained (for lack of a better term) firing of neurons simply responding to the stimuli they are presented. If we aren't created, and therefore arose by chance, no one could ever have done anything any differently than they did, because they're simply acting out the drives of their quantum-physical nature. We could no more choose our own actions than a pool ball could choose which direction to go when struck by a cue. Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 10:33 AM (8y9MW) Hardly. Our brains are the product of millions of years of Natural Selection. NS is not a random process. The evidence strongly indicates reasoning can and has emerged all on its own.

337

A morning without doom is like a morning without coffee.  Nothing to get my BP up.

You could go stare at that ad for um something that stars CH. 

338 We will be arguing with 'scientists' in ten years that consciousness exists, because my guess is most of them won't believe it does.

Some of them try to embrace the idea already.

I love this one:
"So you say that reason doesn't exist- that we really are just the sum of our atoms.  Since you came to that conclusion by your reason, it is inherently invalid."

Yes, you can substitute "consciousness" or "free will" there as well.  It's a very handy little tactic.

339 I've been told that in the most soft, indirect natural light, I am the stuff of nightmares. I don't need help from the shitty, sickly light that CFLs throw off. I keep thinking of Tom Hanks' eye twitching in time to the flickering flourescent bulb in "Joe vs. The Volcano." Don't need that in my house.

340

Still, the idea that there were elected pukes wanting to implement such a scheme in this country is chilling.

Questions:

1. How did they ever get elected in the first place?

and

2. Who the fuck was stupid enough to vote for them?

_{These are merely rhetorical. We all know the answers too well.}

341 Our brains are the product of millions of years of Natural Selection. NS is not a random process.
The evidence strongly indicates reasoning can and has emerged all on its own.

NS is not a random process?  Great.  Who's directing it?
Oh?  What evidence?

342

On the hockey thing, I would love to know why I can't get into watching hockey on tv.  I love watching curling for pity's sake, it's not like I have high standards.  I just can't get into hockey on tv.

343 352 I've been told that in the most soft, indirect natural light, I am the stuff of nightmares.

I thought that's what the bag is for. 

344 Of course, soon they will.  We'll be like England, where the garbage police make sure there are

DC already busted a lady for cat litter.

345

You could go stare at that ad for um something that stars CH.

Ahh, Christina Hendricks. Be still my beating heart.

Wait, that's not my heart...

346
I've been told that in the most soft, indirect natural light, I am the stuff of nightmares.

I once had a girl tell me that I looked good in the dark.

True story.

347 On the hockey thing, I would love to know why I can't get into watching hockey on tv. I love watching curling for pity's sake, it's not like I have high standards. I just can't get into hockey on tv. Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 10:46 AM (VtjlW) -------------------------------------------------------- There is nothing better than watching hockey on an HDTV. I am not even a hockey fan and I will watch.

348 I detest the fluorescent bulbs.  They are too bright and I avoid turning on any fixtures that have them (the only reason we have them cause is the hubby buys them). 

349 On the hockey thing, I would love to know why I can't get into watching hockey on tv.

Hockey doesn't translate very well to TV IMO.  The way they shoot it, you don't usually actually get to see all the important stuff.  The cameras always focus on the puck, but often the important stuff is happening far away from that- positioning and such.

So hockey, which looks random enough as it is, looks even more random on TV.

350 Am I the only one telling children that Santa isn't coming this year because the TSA has him detained?

351 Am I the only one telling children that Santa isn't coming this year because the TSA has him detained?

Yes.  You sicko.

352 NS is not a random process? Great. Who's directing it? Oh? What evidence? Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 10:45 AM (8y9MW) No one is directing it. It works automatically. Mutations are random, NS is not. We can trace the development of the human brain over long stretches of time and correlate that with evidence of increasing intelligence such as tools, art, burial, music, etc.

353

On the hockey thing, I would love to know why I can't get into watching hockey on tv.  I love watching curling for pity's sake, it's not like I have high standards.  I just can't get into hockey on tv.

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 10:46 AM (VtjlW)

My guess is because hockey moves so damn fast.  I like the idea of hockey, and I like to hear how my NHL team is doing, but I can't watch the games because I can NEVER follow the puck.  At least in football they have to take a few moments to re-form the line between downs! 

354
So hockey, which looks random enough as it is, looks even more random on TV.

That was always my complaint; the randomness.  In HD on a big screen, though, it's a whole lot better.

355 News Flash:

SEC is suing 6 Fannie and Freddie Execs.

356 On the hockey thing, I would love to know why I can't get into watching hockey on tv.

Watch with someone(s) who really knows the game.  That's how I got interested in it. 

Also, some broadcasts are better than others, depending on the announcers (I like that little bald guy, Darren Pang) and especially (imho) the lighting of the arena.  And, of course, team styles matter.  Keep sampling games until you find one you like.  Back in the day I became an Edmonton Oilers fan because they seemed to be the speed team. 

357 SEC is suing 6 Fannie and Freddie Execs.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 16, 2011 10:50 AM (9XykO)

Only six?

358 That is why they should install charging stations at brothels and gay bathhouses along

It's DADT cause I don't want to know. 

359 Alexthechick, I have a corporate membership at a golf and curling club. I really want to try it, because it looks like a sport you could play while drinking and smoking and still compete at the highest levels. On the other hand, I'm afraid of what I might do.

360 Follow the men, not the puck. 

361 Am I the only one telling children that Santa isn't coming this year because the TSA has him detained?

I thought he was denied a visa because he offends Mooslims somehow.

362 374 Follow the men, not the puck. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 16, 2011 10:52 AM (5H6zj)

I try that, too, but I swear to God, the way hockey games are shot for TV, you might as well be trying to follow a group of bengal tigers that have just encountered another group of bengal tigers.  It makes my eyes cross.

363

Why would anyone need a lightbulb that last 10,000 hours?  Do they not go outside?

364
Am I the only one telling children that Santa isn't coming this year because the TSA has him detained?

Looks like you're not alone after all.

365 THIS ISN'T DOOOOOM.  I WANT MY DOOOOOM!!!  please....

366 I refuse to but CFL bulbs. I'll use the Sun and candles instead.

367

Hey, I like those curly-Q bulbs, I use them in the garage and for the outside lights around my house, they are cheap, less than a dollar each at Sams Club, they last a long time, and the floodlight versions do saturate the area.

Of course, they are crap for inside use.  

368 I try that, too, but I swear to God, the way hockey games are shot for TV, you might as well be trying to follow a group of bengal tigers that have just encountered another group of bengal tigers.

Well, you're right that you lose a lot in many broadcasts, but I have seen some where they've got the cameras positioned well enough to see things like the shift changes and stuff.

One thing I really like about hockey is the sound of it.  I love the sounds of the skates punctuated by the crashing of the glass.  Also, there's not a lot of extraneous (annoying) patter by the announcers compared to the horror of so many NFL games.  It's very soothing.  The joke around my house is that we put hockey on when I want to fall asleep.

I hate the "intermissions" though, especially on Hockey Night in Canada.  They're ghey. 

369 Corzine is Bernie Madoff, but because Corzine has a (D) after his name, nothing to see here folks.

370 Good morning, lovable losers.

371
O/T:  I would like to note for the record that Martha McCallum has a terrific set of wheels.

372

Franklin Reines and Jamie Gorelick should be sued and forced to give their millions of Fannie Freddie money back to the tax payers.

373

My guess is because hockey moves so damn fast. 

I think that's what it is.  It's like as soon as I start thinking "okay I know what's going on" then zooooom and nope.  I do like watching those Canadian here's how hockey works clips on youtube, does that count?

 I really want to try it, because it looks like a sport you could play while drinking and smoking and still compete at the highest levels.

That's my response too - hey I could do that!  I would like those who have met me and are aware of my panther like reflexes to imagine what would happen when I step on ice.

 

374 No one is directing it. It works automatically.

If no one is directing it, and no one designed it (either of which would indicate a Theistic deity, by the by) how is it not the very definition of "random?"

Remember, Natural Selection is not some force, like gravity (which doesn't "work" at all, it simply "is."), and it's not some set of principles like physics or chemistry (which simply describe how things are seen to operate).  Natural Selection (which, yes, exists) is either a by-product of some pre-existing system, or a random series of events.  If it is the by-product of some pre-existing system, we've done two things: show that "Natural Selection" is nonsense (or, rather, a useless tautology), and simply moved the question one step back: what is that pre-existing system, and is it random, or is it guided/designed.

We can trace the development of the human brain over long stretches of time

No we can't.  Unless you have a time machine and a CAT scanner that would survive the process that I don't know about.  What we can do is theorize about such things, but those theories are largely (purely) conjecture.  Certainly by the time man did things like discover the making of fire, and tool working, and such, reason already existed. 

Indeed, to have discovered how to make fire in the first place, man would have to have reason.  Only reason can say "hmm, when I do this, I get sparks that start a fire.  That will always happen, so I can use this method to start a fire."  That is reasoning.  If reason had not already existed, then man would have no "reason" to believe that doing the same thing would always result in the same event.  Indeed, a definition of insanity is that one expects different results from repetitions of the same event.  Insanity is just another way to say "without reason" or "malfunctioning reason."

375 The hockey announcing is painful to listen to. Mostly they are brain damaged ex-NHL types who probably are not used to speaking much. They feel like they have to constantly flap their lips to make the broadcast more entertaining, while usually the opposite is true.

376 We must have birds migrating through our area right now b/c for the past couple of days I've been listening to a lot of songbirds outside our window.  It sounds like spring outside and it's below freezing. 

377

THIS ISN'T DOOOOOM.  I WANT MY DOOOOOM!!!  please....

No Dooooooom on Fridays. 

Mornin' lacey.

378 389 The hockey announcing is painful to listen to. Mostly they are brain damaged ex-NHL types who probably are not used to speaking much. They feel like they have to constantly flap their lips to make the broadcast more entertaining, while usually the opposite is true.

Wow, I must be lucky.  The broadcasts I catch tend to be one guy doing play by play like a radio announcer with very little bullshit by the other guy. 

379

The hockey announcing is painful to listen to. Mostly they are brain damaged ex-NHL types who probably are not used to speaking much. They feel like they have to constantly flap their lips to make the broadcast more entertaining, while usually the opposite is true.

I didn't know Collinsworth announced hockey games. 

380 That was always my complaint; the randomness.  In HD on a big screen, though, it's a whole lot better.

That helps.  And the networks are getting a little better at panning out so you can see more of the ice all at once.

381 SEC is suing 6 Fannie and Freddie Execs.

Daniel H. Mudd, Enrico Dallavecchia,  Thomas A. Lund, Richard F. Syron, Patricia L. Cook, and Donald J. Bisenius.

None of the big name Democrats seem to be on the list.

382 I think I like the play-by-play guy who does TSN's games, but I don't know his name.

383 I've had much success with the fluorescents, I like them.  However, I also have applications that I MUST have 100 watt incandescents.  It's a shame that the government thinks it should regulate them out of existence.  I guess the constitution is too weak of a set of rules.

384 Christopher Hitchens was a unique man. Provocative. His stand against the Clinton regime during the Lewinsky Affair was sincere and brutal. The next book I'll buy is his statement on the matter  - "No One Left To Lie To".

Oriana Fallaci - how I miss her.

385 So help me, I do enjoy watching curling too. Maybe it's the attractive ladies yelling about hurrying hard ...

386 Hey MissStompyBoots

No Dooooooom on Fridays. 

^^^ Ditto ^^^

387

I guess the constitution is too weak of a set of rules.

No, the Constitution tells the pols that they can't do stuff and they just don't like that very much. 

388 I think I like the play-by-play guy who does TSN's games, but I don't know his name.

Chris Cuthbert is the main guy. He's very good. No idea why the CBC canned him in 2004 or whenever it was.

389

This story has been really badly-reported locally and nationally. 

Nevertheless, I can't help but ask why Rick Perry has a middle schooler working on his campaign.  /sarc

"A Utah County middle school's decision to out a gay student to his parents has sparked criticism from advocates for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) youths.

[snip]

Parents were notified that their 14-year-old son is gay, she said, because the school was being "proactive" in preventing bullying. The student was not disciplined at school, she said, but his parents, who have asked that their names not be released to media, have decided to keep him home until attention surrounding the issue dies down. The student plans to return to school after winter break.

"We do include parents any time there's a potential safety issue with a student," Bromley said.

[snip]

Last week, the eighth-grade student began letting classmates know that he is gay, including by noting it in a class assignment in which students created advertisements about themselves. A teacher consulted with him to make sure he wanted it displayed in class with all the other students' posters, and he said he did. Later, an adult aide overheard other students making negative comments to the boy about being gay. An assistant principal admonished the students for their comments.

The administrator also talked to the gay student, who confirmed he is gay but said he had not told his parents, Bromley said. The administrator discussed the need for the boy to be able to feel safe talking to teachers and his parents about any problems he may have.

"He was nervous about [telling his parents]. He initially said, 'No, that can't happen.' She talked to him. He finally agreed reluctantly," Bromley said. But the student insisted on not being in the room when the administrator told his parents he's gay."

390

An incandescent bulb may burn for 750 to 2,500 hours, while a compact fluorescent can last up to 10,000 hours, according to the Energy Department. (emphasis added)

 

if you use DC current, incandescent bulbs can last for decades. Look at the bulbs in Edison's house ... still burning.

391 >>Chris Cuthbert is the main guy. He's very good.

Yeah.  He really paints a picture.  It's like listening to the radio. 

392 Hey, I like those curly-Q bulbs

No one is saying you can't have them. We're saying your preferences shouldn't be forced on the rest of us via federal law.  Everyone should get to choose their own indoor lighting

(If 100W incandescent bulbs were used to dismember babies in the womb, we'd not be having this discussion.  Irony.)

393 So those corner seats by the glass must be good because they seem to sell out quickly judging by the availability at our local IHL team's arena.

394 Oh Gawd Haley endorsed Mittens.

Bloody hell, what?

395 "He was nervous about [telling his parents]. He initially said, 'No, that can't happen.' She talked to him. He finally agreed reluctantly," Bromley said. But the student insisted on not being in the room when the administrator told his parents he's gay."

Okay, I get it: middle schooler, not all that smart yet.  But, really?  He was fine with telling the whole school, but wouldn't tell his parents?

396 I hate fluorescents of all types. 

397 Oh Gawd Haley endorsed Mittens. Bloody hell, what? Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2011 11:13 AM (pLTLS) With the advent of the internet, I don't think endorsements mean all that much now a days

398 Oh Gawd Haley endorsed Mittens.

Bloody hell, what?

He's "electable" remember?  I suspect she's afraid (as Ace seems to be) that it has come down to Newt v Mitt, and (again, as Ace seems to) prefers Mitt to Newt.

I preferred it when she said she wouldn't endorse in the primary.

399 Okay, I get it: middle schooler, not all that smart yet.  But, really?  He was fine with telling the whole school, but wouldn't tell his parents?

Yeah.

I think this story was really misreported.  It wasn't the school's decision to out him.  It was the school's decision (based on an established general policy about bullying) to persuade him to tell his parents.  The method used - of the school telling the parents - was the kid's choice. 

Initially I thought it was a bad thing, but after learning the facts, it's probably ok, given how much 'counseling' type stuff schools do already anyway. 

400 if you use DC current, incandescent bulbs can last for decades. Look at the bulbs in Edison's house ... still burning.

The next best thing is a full-wave rectifier at the bulb socket.
Or a half-wave rectifier if you don't need all 100 watts of light (you end up with about 3/4 'apparent brightness')
Simple and cheap: http://tinyurl.com/7g2hh6f

401

Yeah, I know he's going to walk, but it's still fun to watch the cockroach squirm.  From Hotair:

 

Rep. Steve Pearce (R-N.M.) mocked CorzineÂ’s apologies and his statements that he sympathizes with MF Global customers hurt by the bankruptcy.

“What hotel are you at here in the city?” Pearce asked, repeating Corzine’s barely audible answer: “The Ritz Carlton — did I hear it correctly?”

“How many of the 36,000 clients that were defrauded have you called personally?” Pearce asked.

“None,” Corzine said.

Alluding to the fortune Corzine made as head of Goldman Sachs, Pearce asked, “Have you created a scholarship for any of the families that have been disadvantaged, people just to help them out with maybe their college funds? Yes? No?”

“Congressman, the answer is no,” Corzine said.

 

I wonder why Occupy WS hasn't deigned to attend these hearings. 

402 >>I preferred it when she said she wouldn't endorse in the primary.

Well, if her approval rating really is at 34%, maybe she needs some of that sweet Romney cash to ensure re-election.

403 LED light bulbs will eventually replace CFLs and no one will use incandescent anymore. LEDs don't burn out they just loose peak brightness over a long period of time, they don't suffer from temperature issues, illuminate @ full brightness instantly, don't fail from vibration as they are solid state,  use the same or less electricity than CFLs, fully recyclable without hazardous materials, are dim-able, and have the same color temperatures as incandescent or can dynamically change color on demand. The cost of LED bulbs is coming down and quality going up naturally due to their use in consumer electronics and in vehicles.

There's no need for government regulation. People will naturally migrate to the new product just as they have from many analog to digital technologies when the cost to benefit ratio has deemed it worthwhile.

The whole incandescent ban is just a way of bailing out all the companies that went big on manufacturing CFLS and need to recoup the money on a bad bet before LEDs take over the marketplace. GE & Westinghouse went big on CFLs, Phillips & many Asian companies (Korea in particular) are playing the long game on LEDs.

404

None of the big name Democrats seem to be on the list.

 

Two glaring omissions:  Frank and Dodd.

405 Christina Hendricks is really pretty. Really pretty, except that I am not a boob man (I suppose that makes me even more of an aberration), I am a leg man, and that chick has feet uglier than a St. Bernard's rear paw.

406 417 LED light bulbs will eventually replace CFLs and no one will use incandescent anymore.

I think it depends on the type of light they emit.  I haven't seen what an LED that would be equivalent to a 100W looks like. 

Can you dim them?  Because I really like dimmers. 

407 Morning 'rons....

So is this it until the ONT?

408 Today I could use a DOOM thread.  Two young women murdered in the small town near here.  A small town where years and years go by with no violent crime has had five murders this year.  No arrests made yet for the last three.  Double plus ungood.

409

385

I would like to note for the record that Martha McCallum has a terrific set of wheels.

She has a cool car? /sarc

I assume, since you are posting on AoSHQ, that you are actually referring to teh boobehs.  ....I agree.

410 420 417 LED light bulbs will eventually replace CFLs and no one will use incandescent anymore.

Can you dim them? Because I really like dimmers.
__________

Easy peasy. A few quality hours spent with a LEGO MindStorms ® and you can build a robot to replace the bulb with a dimmer one on command.

411

 Christina Hendricks is really pretty. Really pretty, except that I am not a boob man (I suppose that makes me even more of an aberration), I am a leg man, and that chick has feet uglier than a St. Bernard's rear paw.

 

Well, today is your lucky day because I am famous for my fabulous, well toned gams.  You can bounce a quarter off my thighs.  My calves are shapely and to die for.  My ankles, ah, my ankles...  Call me!

412 I assume, since you are posting on AoSHQ, that you are actually referring to teh boobehs.

I assumed "wheels" meant legs.

413 Wonder if the repeal of the bulb ban will be honored in Green Totalitarian California.

414

So is this it until the ONT?

 

I believe it will be going on until Memorial Day...

415

422

Speaking professionally, sounds like the quiet sort of place to set up a meth lab.  Are these murders drug related?  Has there been any sort of commonality between victims?

416

So is this it until the ONT?

That depends.  We'll know after the crack of noon if this is an eh whatevs kind of posting day or an Ewok on meth kind of posting day. 

417

Hey I agree with that, and grabbing someone on the battlefield in the 'Stan is evidence for that.  But as I understood this new bill it allowed them to pick up someone in the U.S. who had been classified as a "terrorist", and hold them without trial permanently.

Do you trust the Obamanites, or their like, in classifying terrorists?

Posted by: Vic at December 16, 2011 09:03 AM (YdQQY)

This, especially in light of that '09 DHS report on domestic terrorism singling out returning military veterans, pro-lifers, non-leftist immigration groups, gun-owners, and people otherwise not likely to be of Obama's political stripe.

418 #417, They are coming out but expensive right now.
Here's an image from a Google image search:
http://tinyurl.com/czgycwd

The only problems with LEDs, aside from the rapidly declining production costs, is that they tend to be very directional lights and generate heat. This requires the bulb units to array the LEDs in a way that casts light evenly like incandescent do or come up with a novel reflective lens. The heat issue is being resolved with new designs (which also increase brightness versus loosing energy to waste heat) and heat sinks designed into the reflective lenses.

At the current rate of development and the price curve they'll be cheaper than CFLs within 5-10.

419 Oh Gawd Haley endorsed Mittens. Bloody hell, what? Posted by: laceyunderalls at December 16, 2011 11:13 AM (pLTLS) I question the judgment of any woman who would make hot, sweaty monkey-love to Will Folks.

420 414 if you use DC current, incandescent bulbs can last for decades. Look at the bulbs in Edison's house ... still burning.

The next best thing is a full-wave rectifier at the bulb socket. Or a half-wave rectifier if you don't need all 100 watts of light (you end up with about 3/4 'apparent brightness')
__________

And, if you use LEDs to build the rectifier, you have the advantages of both LEDs *and* incandescents!

421 Blue falcon, the warmth produced by incandescents is a plus, not a negative, in all the cooler months.   They keep rabbits warm in their hutches,  an me in my chair.   The softer warmer light is nice light.  And the ugliest bulb in my house (since squiggles are no longer allowed in it) is the practically useless LED chandelier bulb I bought out of curiosity to test.   It will dim, certainly.  But it is hideous compared to the incandescent ones.  It has a little metal jacket on the bottom half of the flame-shaped bulb,  rather diminishing the point of such lights,  which is gentle illumination cast downward onto the table.  It has a cold light that is nothing like candlelight, whether bright or dimmed - and it does not produce as much light when on full tilt boogie.

Incandescent lights will always have a place,  and the MARKET not some social engineer, ought to set the demand and the price.

422 But in practice they don't really last appreciably longer than the incandescents now, do they?

The ones I have used have lasted longer than incandescents, and for lights that are on a lot, they put off a lot less heat and you can safely use a much higher luminescence on the same socket... so the CFL's are not *all* bad.

That said, the LED technology is vastly superior. Too bad they're so expensive right now.

Of course, as a Conservative, I don't want Government or anyone else telling me what kind of light bulbs I can and can't choose. I'm more than capable of considering the benefits and drawbacks of my light bulb choices and making my own decision, thank you very much.

423

That depends.  We'll know after the crack of noon if this is an eh whatevs kind of posting day or an Ewok on meth kind of posting day. 

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 11:25 AM (VtjlW)

Guess I have time to go wrap wrap a few things....

424 It's not an issue of traditional bulbs vs. CFL. It's traditional bulbs vs. the new halogen bulbs. The new halogen bulbs are only slightly pricier, burn about 25% more efficiently, and are said to last a lot longer. Personally I use CFL bulbs in most lamps, but non-CFL bulbs in the few spots where I need brighter light (or where the lighting unit is connected to a rheostat). It makes no difference to me whether the non-CFL bulb is traditional or halogen; they're identical in appearance and output.

425 420 417 LED light bulbs will eventually replace CFLs and no one will use incandescent anymore. Can you dim them? Because I really like dimmers.

A few years ago, I ran a quick wavelength scan on a 'white' LED (this was back when they were in their infancy).  (We were building a laser wavelength measurement station, and I just happened to have an LED).
Here's a jpg of the result: http://tinyurl.com/7guz3ff

They are totally "dimmable" -- easier to dim than incandescents, even.
If you look at the graph, they also have a more even spectrum than an incandescent.  Peaky in the 'blue' area, though -- which is why they look a bit 'colder'.

426 I saw this at Yahoo! news, the SEC is suing former Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac executives for false statements to investors, though Barney Frank is not named as a defendant. Not too much there, but the first step. Here is the tinyurl link: http://tinyurl.com/6vzg9jd

427 390 We must have birds migrating through our area right now b/c for the past couple of days I've been listening to a lot of songbirds outside our window. It sounds like spring outside and it's below freezing.
_________

You do realize that using the "shushcopter" technologically (first publically documented in "The Nude Bomb") they can make the black helicopters sound like songbirds, don't you?

428

A few years ago, I ran a quick wavelength scan on a 'white' LED (this was back when they were in their infancy).  (We were building a laser wavelength measurement station, and I just happened to have an LED).

Whenever I read stuff like this from members of the Horde I get a warm glowy feeling in where non-gingers would have a heart.  The geek power of the Horde is strong. 

429
speaking of light bulbs and shit...

430  
  Recently had an argument about turning thermostats up and down, according to room occupancy--night vs day-- and I opined that changing settings will cause more energy use than a constant.  As I read, in order to make a room comfortable, the surroundings need to be at or near ambient air temp. Until these conditions are met , the room will feel uncomfortable.

  I argued that continued warming after cooldown will use more energy than a constant setting.

  Am I wrong or is there logic to that idea?

431

Yeah, lots of poor people use lightbulbs to heat their homes.  Why do the Demotards hate poor people?

Stupid legislation resulted in the reconfiguration of the iconic Easy Bake oven.  It would have been fun if a slew of children came down with salmonella because of the former ban on 100 watt incandescent lightbulbs.  The idiots who claim "it's for the children" are dooming them to horrible illness and exposure to mercury.  Why do libtards hate teh children?

 

 

432 Just got my wisdom teeth pulled out. My mouth is all numb. ugh

433 my mil disagrees with you iron

434
I had no idea Rand Paul was such an outspoken supporter of his father's candidacy.

Rand was on with Laura this morning and he seems to fully on board with Ron Paul.

435 I think i will erect a latte stand close to the charging stations .

436 Allen. I teach classes on Aquinas. You are doing an excellent job. Keep up the good work.

437 446 Just got my wisdom teeth pulled out. My mouth is all numb. ugh

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 11:36 AM (FKQng)

Best enjoy the numbness, considering what is going to replace it in a couple of hours.

438 429

Yup, lots of meth out here and it's been a factor in some of the killin.

439 rest in peace , Christopher.

440 So I had the question: Is "Fanfare for the Common Man" kinda the name and type of song the American commies will make the anthem?

Wiki says, "they have."

"On January 18, 2009, it was played at the beginning of We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial. It was also played at the beginning of "An American Reunion", the concert (also at the Lincoln Memorial) on the Saturday prior to the inauguration of Bill Clinton in 1992."

The song is inspired by Henry Wallace, 1948 Presidential nominee for the Progressive Party after a long stint in FDR's administration as VP and in his cabinet.

GD, I hate that POS FDR--that's another grave I'd like to piss on before I die.

441 They are coming out but expensive right now. Here's an image from a Google image search: http://tinyurl.com/czgycwd That image is for a liquid-filled bulb hyped in Wired magazine. I somehow catch the faint whiff of another Solyndra. The Philips lamps on the shelves at Home Depot now look like this: Ambient LED. HD's online price for the 60W equivalent is $25.

442 The next best thing is a full-wave rectifier at the bulb socket. Or a half-wave rectifier if you don't need all 100 watts of light (you end up with about 3/4 'apparent brightness')

I bought a thing that went into the socket that would ramp the light on and off. probably similar to what your talking about without the wiring. This is as close a match as I could find online. I put it in my kids room when they were little because if you fliped the switch twice it would dim to off over 20 minutes. I never had to change that bulb the 5 yrs I lived in that house.

P.S. I did not pay $99 bucks at the link more like $5 for a set of 2

443 sooth, I guess I would expect one to support their father, but , yuck.

444 Here's looking toward a future of sitting in the dark. Maybe candles?

445 i like the glow of oil lamps,although  it would be quite expensive.

446  I somehow catch the faint whiff of another Solyndra.

Lightbulbs you say?  I see a business opportunity for Happy Fun!

447
We don't have the luxury to write off a single vote in '12.

We're not in any position to alienate any Republican voter.

448 459 i like the glow of oil lamps,although  it would be quite expensive.

Posted by: willow at December 16, 2011 11:43 AM (h+qn

I fully advocate a return to oil lamps.

449 Romney is inevitable.  Like death and taxes.

450 f5, f5, f5,f5, f5, f5!!!ELEVENTY

451

Best enjoy the numbness, considering what is going to replace it in a couple of hours.

Posted by: maddogg at December 16, 2011 11:39 AM (OlN4e)

How long will it hurt? Not looking forward to that.

452 I know a woman who is disabled and the state's weatherization program came out to "help" her. They took all her incandescent bulbs and replaced them with CFL's for "energy saving". The next thing she knew, every time she turned on a light in her house, she spiked a migraine. She finally discovered that some migraine sufferers cannot tolerate the CFL's. (I read that in the UK, migraine sufferers can get a waiver so they can have incandescent bulbs for medical reasons.) Anyway, the poor woman had to go out and find incandescent bulbs to replace all those "energy saving" taxpayer-funded CFL's because she couldn't safely turn on a light in her own home until she did. She gave the CFL's away. So my questions are: does it cost more to care for migraine sufferers under Medicaid than the light bulbs save? Did anyone check into this problem when they decided that poor people wouldn't be able to afford light bulbs "to save the planet"? And when do we get CFL waivers under Obamacare?

453 I teach classes on Aquinas.

I wish I'd had a chance to take classes on Aquinas.

Unfortunately, the Church of Christ isn't big into formalized logic and theology (we've got plenty of logicians and theologans, they're just mostly self-taught, or had to go through some other tradition for their training).  I got hooked on semi-formal Apologetics when I first read Mere Christianity.

454
Safety Hazard?  Yeah right, more stupidity.

455

We're not in any position to alienate any Republican voter.

 

Well, crap!  I guess that means we aren't going to nominate the ever viable ham sammich then.  Shucks!

456

How long will it hurt? Not looking forward to that.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 11:45 AM (FKQng)

Not long. Mebbe 5 days. I hope you like soup.

457 really experiencing the doldrums lately. someone tell me it doesn't matter who wins as long as it isn't Obama.
lie to me if you must!

458 Who needs freedom anyway? I just need a government to tell me what light bulbs to buy, what insurance to purchase and how much I need, tell me how much money to make, and provide me with retirement.

459 Who needs freedom anyway? I just need a government to tell me what light bulbs to buy, what insurance to purchase and how much I need, tell me how much money to make, and provide me with retirement.

You owe me a new sarcasm detector.  So much in such a short space broke mine.

460 Recently had an argument about turning thermostats up and down, according to room occupancy--night vs day-- and I opined that changing settings will cause more energy use than a constant.  As I read, in order to make a room comfortable, the surroundings need to be at or near ambient air temp. Until these conditions are met , the room will feel uncomfortable.

  I argued that continued warming after cooldown will use more energy than a constant setting.

  Am I wrong or is there logic to that idea?

I tend to agree with you -- in January, I'll be starting pepper seeds in my seed-starting structure.
I currently have the heater set to turn ON at 40 F and OFF at 45 F (just trying to keep the better half's geraniums alive).  http://tinyurl.com/c3uto6w
The 'slow temperature decay' follows the standard discharge curve -- which means the heater would be on more frequently, but for far less time.  I don't really know if the "ON" times would be equivalent.
This year I'll set the on/off temp much closer and monitor the electricity usage.  I'll report results if a thread gets this geeky  in March.
The reason this might be worth experimenting on is that I've got about 80 gallons of water in a structure 7' x 8' -- thermal mass!

461

really experiencing the doldrums lately. someone tell me it doesn't matter who wins as long as it isn't Obama.
lie to me if you must!

willow, it does not matter who wins as long as it isn't Obama.

(Go Team Squirrel!)

462 Seriously. I want Nudes of the Free Credit Report Chick. Not the band fan. The Brunette. Hit up 4chan. And get back to me.

463 You do realize that using the "shushcopter" technologically (first publically documented in "The Nude Bomb") they can make the black helicopters sound like songbirds, don't you?

lol. 

It must be the Mittens Collective coming to get the only* Perry supporter in my neighborhood! 




*Actually, I don't know that to be the case, but still...

464 Well, crap! I guess that means we aren't going to nominate the ever viable ham sammich then. Shucks! Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 11:46 AM (u/RSM) That's the kosher ham right?

465 heh

466 off, Ahab sock.

467

GD, I hate that POS FDR--that's another grave I'd like to piss on before I die.

Posted by: Jimmuy at December 16, 2011 11:40 AM (8SQ/2)

Ah that brings back memories of my youth.  Daddy would bundle us all up in the station wagon and we'd hit the road.   Many a mile we would cover in our family road trips.  I can still hear him now giving a shout of excitement as we approached our destination, "It's only five more miles to Woodrow Wilson's gravesite! Hurry up, kids, and finish your big-gulps."

(*sniff* I miss him so...)

468 at the least buy me something shiny to help!

469
/scratches chalkboard with fingernails

Makes jokes at your own peril, morons.

470 at the least buy me something shiny to help!

Where should I send the fish-lure, willow?

471 467 My Grandmother was Church of Christ. In fact her great grandfather was one of the founders? Something like that. Sterling Burton. Very early. Anyway, you're doing  a fine job. I get too caught up in the weeds sometimes. If you ever have a spare year read the Summa.

472
I have underwear older than this thread.

473
that didn't make sense

474 I have underwear older than this thread.

Don't remind us.

475

So my questions are: does it cost more to care for migraine sufferers under Medicaid than the light bulbs save?

 

Well, I'm sure our betters in the gubamint are hoping it will make migraine sufferers end it all.  Save lots of money in healthcare costs. 

 

Mr. Pink you forgot to include "tell us what to eat" on your list.  That's very important to a certain shrewish, hectoring, hypocritical, wide beamed FLATUS. 

476
I have underwear younger than this thread.

477

Well, crap!  I guess that means we aren't going to nominate the ever viable ham sammich then.  Shucks!

 

That ham sammich is a dirty, stinking, filthy rino. Never vote for it. Not until you throw a fried egg on top of it that is.

478 in the near future i will be regaling my grandchildren with stories of how it used to be.
We used to have these wonderous lightbulbs that would light a whole room!
no really gramma it can't be true.
why yes it is!
and we also used to have this amazing thing called salt, you wouldn't believe how it sparked up the taste of foods.
Salt? but isn't that an evil product from a Corporation or something?
well yes dear, but in those days we had lovely homes and jobs that corporations let us work at.

479 LEf'ingD's?  I looked into putting them into my house, turns out I would have had to take out a second mortgage to replace all my lights with equivalent LED's.

480 So I had the question: Is "Fanfare for the Common Man" kinda the name and type of song the American commies will make the anthem?

I think that is a great piece.  I would go so far as to say Aaron Copeland is America's greatest composer.  But Copeland was a commie.  Copeland later had a falling out with the commies over the restrictions the commies put on Dimitri Shostakovitch's compositions.  Copeland was OK with the gulags,with the Ukrainian famine, the show trials, etc. put when they start trying to tell a compose what harmonies and rhythms he can use, that's the final straw!  They say he was a homo, too.

481

467 My Grandmother was Church of Christ. In fact her great grandfather was one of the founders? Something like that. Sterling Burton. Very early. Anyway, you're doing  a fine job. I get too caught up in the weeds sometimes. If you ever have a spare year read the Summa.

 

My girlfriend says I got some of my best moves from the Summa Katra!  It's a great book! 

482 Looks like we gonna hit 500 comments. Record for THC thread?

483 We have incandescent bulbs in my bathrooms.   Instead of a switch, we use slide dimmers.  The bulbs in the master bath are now about ten years old.  In the second bath, one of the three bulbs burned out after "only" about five years. 

We have yet to have a CFL last anywhere near that long, and almost all the bulbs in our house were changed to CFLs, except where they are just too big.

This is all stupid, nasty arrogant and crooked politicians on a power trip, and with their hands out for graft.  It has nothing to do with anything except our asshole politicians.  May they all drop dead tomorrow.  (Actually, today is OK too.)

484 Allen through the ups , perhaps i will get it by next year to cheer me up.

485

Mr. Pink you forgot to include "tell us what to eat" on your list. That's very important to a certain shrewish, hectoring, hypocritical, wide beamed FLATUS.

Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 11:52 AM (u/RSM)

 

Indeed.  There is no element of life these vile totalitarians do not want to touch.  Better to live under the rule of distant and uncaring monarch than under these damn do-gooders.  I hate those pukes with the heat of a thousand suns - including those claiming to be conservatives.

Yesterday I savored the joy of a massive bacon cheeseburger with fries, topped off by a huge brownie with a great pile of vanilla icecream on top.  Seldom is it so satifying to strike a blow for freedom.

486 I need my government to force me and others to pay for abortions, because it is for the children

487

How long will it hurt? Not looking forward to that.

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at December 16, 2011 11:45 AM (FKQng)

 

 

If you like your soup, you can keep your soup...

488

flapjack

 

keep the cotton packs in until the bleeding stops

489 The best movie I've seen for the future the leftards have planned for us is "Demolition Man".

490 put when they start trying to tell a compose what harmonies and rhythms he can use, that's the final straw!

I lol'd.

491 At some point you've written enough laws/regulations.

492 Posted by: GaryS at December 16, 2011 11:55 AM (W7tJ+)

Add me to the list of "haven't had trouble" with CFLs.

With a couple of exceptions which I blame on either the fixtures or the wiring.  In each of my bathrooms, I have those 4-bulb fixtures (two of them in the Master bath).  Among all three of those fixtures, I have one that hasn't had a problem, but the other two- bulbs in the same two positions keep burning out.  I haven't had to change the other 10 bulbs at all, but those two I keep having to replace.

I've had CFLs everywhere I could put them (only replacing those recurring 3 and, I think, one other) for around 5 years now.

493 One of the most jaw dropping things I ever saw was when my Israeli teammate on an overnight relay went to breakfast with me and piled teh bacon on his plate.  I watched in complete shock as he proceded to stuff a mountain of it in his pie hole. 

494 435,
That was an early LED bulb design. The newest ones don't look as freakish and produce the same quality of light as incandescent bulbs.

Easy example to see the march of bulb technology. If you've bought a mini-maglite flashlight in the past year the new bulbs in them are LEDs. The originals 1980s/1990s were 4 lumen incandescent, 1990s-2000s the xenons were around 15 lumens, the latest LED ones sold are now 75 lumens. All with the same battery life.

495 Copeland was OK with the gulags,with the Ukrainian famine, the show trials, etc. put when they start trying to tell a compose what harmonies and rhythms he can use, that's the final straw! They say he was a homo, too.

Posted by: WalrusRex at December 16, 2011 11:54 AM (Hx5uv)

 

Shocker...  /sarc

Every Leftist is all for the cause - when someone else's blood is to be spilled, or another person's ox is to be gored.  They're all untrustworthy scum.  If the civil war ever erupts, I hope our side shows not a shred of mercy.

496 I watched in complete shock as he proceded to stuff a mountain of it in his pie hole.

Mmmmmm.  Pie.

497 Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 11:59 AM (u/RSM)

Israeli != Jewish.  Jewish != Kosher.

I've known more than a few Jews who only worry about Kosher food around Hanuka.

498 Are we getting the pipeline?

499
On this day in 1997...

an episode of Pokemon causes over 600 Japanese children to have seizures.

500 449 I think i will erect a latte stand close to the charging stations .

Too late, they've all got Starbucks in PA, Gloria Jeans in OH.  But for the real sweet tooth in IN hit one of the South Bend Chocolate Company stands.

501

I need my government to force me and others to pay for  free charging stations for all the electric cars driven by all the 1 percenters in my area.  It's for the salmon.

 

(And yes, I saw a second Tesla dealer within a 12 mile radius of the first one!)  More money than sense!

502 507:  It's official, my new happy place includes a hot IDF chick sharing a mountain of bacon, just before teh whoopie.

I'll die of a massive cardiac arrest, but the undertakers won't be able to erase the smile from my corpse's face.

503 Hmm.. and how many hours has the Livermore "Centennial Bulb" burned? I'd like to see a CFL come close! *L*

504

Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 11:59 AM (u/RSM)

 

LOL.  Was he a Jew in the religious sense? 

One might well wonder how powerful a tool bacon has been in the work of winning people to Christianity.

505

@499

to paraphrase The Patriot, it's better to suffer on tyrant 3,000 miles away rather than 3,000  tyrants one mile away

506 Flapjack mama, I hope you do not get dry sockets!  I water picked like a fiend to prevent that.  We had a waterpick because several of us had braces.

507
The actor who played Col Tigh on Battlestar Galactica was born in this day in 1928.

(the black Col Tigh, not that fraud foreign Col Tigh robot bastard)

508 That was an early LED bulb design. The newest ones don't look as freakish and produce the same quality of light as incandescent bulbs.

That is totally true.
I use Incandescents when I want heat.
I use CFL's  and LED's when I want energy saving.
CFL's have a lower up-front cost, LED's have a much better long-term benefit.  I just plain can't afford to light the whole house with LED's yet.

I expect that will change in about 3 years.

509

to paraphrase The Patriot, it's better to suffer on tyrant 3,000 miles away rather than 3,000 tyrants one mile away

Posted by: chuck in st paul at December 16, 2011 12:03 PM (EhYdw)

 

Well said.  And by God, we have a horde of said tyrants within a stone's throw.  May each die in a fire. 

510 I find Jews (in many cases anyway) treat pork like Baptists treat beer.

511
On this day in 1980...

Col Sanders passed away.

512

LOL.  Was he a Jew in the religious sense? 

 

I guess not very observant!  He's been here in the U.S. for the last couple of years.  Both he and his wife are Israeli.  His parents and brother still live back there. 

Funny thing too, his parents were visiting at the time of the relay.  They came to the post-race party at the finish line with his wife.  His mom was wearing a shirt.  At first glance, it looked like one of those Victoria's Secret "Peace and Love" t-shirts (had peace signs and hearts all over it).  On closer inspection, it actually said "Fuck Peace and Love" all over it.  One of my other teammates said "OMG, did you see G's mom's t-shirt?  Do you think she knows what that means?  Do you think she's trying to make some kind of political statement?"  Well, duh! 

Funny thing, his mom is a neurologist back in Israel.  We didn't talk politics at all, but it was interesting listening to her talk about how she works 2 jobs as a doc--she has her own private practice, and she also works for the state.  She works waaay more than 40 hours a week.

513 503 The best movie I've seen for the future the leftards have planned for us is "Demolition Man".

Even the leftards' planned "utopia" for us is worse than what was shown in Demolition Man.  At least in Demolition Man, we'd have 3 seashells to clean us up while in the supposed real "utopia", we'd only get one square. 

514 #522, I'd wait a few years for LEDs to get cheaper and the energy cost savings will be quite a bit better.

Right now I use the LED bulbs in fixtures where it is hard to remove the glass shades or the fixture tends to run hot burning out other bulbs quickly and don't ever really want to change the bulbs ever again.

515 I need my government to force me and others to pay for abortions, because it is for the children.

That's ironic because the government says the fogies need to shuffle off for the sake of the children, too.

516
Just think...

back in December 1980, the people of the United States set their hope and pride in their new President-elect, Ronald Reagan.

517 The unfortunate catch 22 of politics is that poeple that just want to live their lives in peace don't run for office. The people that want to micromanage others do run for office.

518

FUCK I CAN'T GET SHIT TO PASTE IN THIS GOD-DAMNED LOSER-ASSED TEXT EDITOR BULLSHIT WHATEVER-IT-IS TEXT-ENTRY PLACE.

AUTOMATICALLY CONVERTS EVEN TINYURL TEXT TO "strings that are too long what-the-fuck-ever now bend over and let me fuck you in the ass".

UISING I.E. 9 ON WINDOWS 7 PROFESSIONAL.

PLEASE FIX THIS SHIT.

GOD DAMN IT, IT IS INFURIATING.

 

519

(And yes, I saw a second Tesla dealer within a 12 mile radius of the first one!)  More money than sense!

Isn't that the operating radius for an electric car? 

520 Buzz you are right. Good people don't want to lord over others. They don't seek power or money. Bad people do.

Just finished a piece on the abject failure of the GOP.

521

UISING = USING

 

522

From the AP!

 

For the first time, the poll found that a majority of adults, 52 percent, said Obama should be voted out of office while 43 percent said he deserves another term. The numbers mark a reversal since last May, when 53 percent said Obama should be re-elected while 43 percent said he didnÂ’t deserve four more years.

ObamaÂ’s overall job approval stands at a new low, with 44 percent approving and 54 percent disapproving. The presidentÂ’s standing among independents is worse: Thirty-eight percent approve while 59 percent disapprove. Among Democrats, the president holds steady with an approval rating of 78 percent while only 12 percent of Republicans approve of the job heÂ’s doing.

523 USING I.E. 9 ON WINDOWS 7 PROFESSIONAL.
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There's your problem..  I.E?  WTF?  Who the fuck uses IE?

524

Isn't that the operating radius for an electric car? 

 

If I don't turn my radio, heater or lights on, I can get up to 18. 

525 ...while only 12 percent of Republicans approve of the job heÂ’s doing.

Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 12:12 PM (u/RSM)

Who are these people!?

526 Well, I'm surprised. Only 78% of the Democrats are stupider than shit on a stick.

527 sock begone

528 Hey!  Can a guy get a new thread around here?

529 #539, the people who claim to be Republicans and have voted for every Democrat since Reagan left office or the ones that think only Lindsay Graham or McLame are the only 'real Republicans' left.

530
On this day in 1978...

Mecha-Godzilla destroyed Tokyo and invented the Furbee.

531 On this day in 1773, angry, white, slave owners that didnt want to pay their taxes caused an environmental catastrophe by polluting Boston Harbor with bales of processed tea.

..... well.... at least according to my libtard brother.....

532

please may we have a new thread?

533 Isn't that the operating radius for an electric car?

Many of the problem of our country arise from the lower classes moving about unnecessarily.

534

Posted by: Sasha -N- Malia at December 16, 2011 12:11 PM (Bjf6P)

See that little <> at the top of the box? Paste your stuff in the box then go there and clean it up. Make sure to hit "apply". If there is any blue or too long a string you can fix it!

535
On this day in 1777...

General Washington's wooden teeth got stuck in an apple.

536 Ok, morons......

Tomorrow is my Birthday!!!  I will NOT be online tomorrow, so in lieu of me reminding you, PLEASE, pour yourself a pint of your favorite beverage and raise it high.....in honor of me, DRINK UP!!!!!!

Wheeee......Otherwise, drink anyway....it's just another day.

537 We need a thread on why Linux fanboys are socially stunted shut-ins who jam their hands in their armpits and sniff their fingers when they get nervous.

538 happy birthday sponge!!!!!!!

539
the Tea Party???

how'd I miss that???

540 ...while only 12 percent of Republicans approve of the job heÂ’s doing.

Posted by: runningrn at December 16, 2011 12:12 PM (u/RSM)

Who are these people!?

Posted by: Tami at December 16, 2011 12:15 PM (X6akg)

These are the people who think that they way to win the middle is to prove that we are not really racist, sexist, selfish bigots who want poor  minority children to freeze and starve to death by voting for Obama. 

541

Walked quickly by the supermarket stand to see a magazine cover that said:

"Why don't they like me?" and a photo of Romney. I think it was either Time or Newsweek. One of the pro-democrat/pro-Obama rags.

I don't recall the photo of Hillary with that same caption.

 

542 Happy BDay Sponge, save us some cake!

543 "But Copeland was a commie." I've noticed that on a lot of wiki pages, old commies are now listed as "socialists." What bullshit. In fact, I've seen so much clean up on the internet over the past 12 years, I can't help but think it is deliberate. Specifically, Feinstein's husband, Ayers and Dohrn, and all the other 60-80s radicals. They misdeeds have either disappeared off the internet or they are now reported as being fluffy bunnies.

544 OPEN THREAD ABOVE

545 tis OK sooth..... it's FRIDAY!!!!!

546 513 On this day in 1997...
an episode of Pokemon causes over 600 Japanese children to have seizures.
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The author of that episode then went on to write some silly movie involving vampires and Caesarian sections.

547 Thank you ladies!!!

Not sure there will be a cake, but I'm up for sharing, so I'll pass around!

548 I don't recall the photo of Hillary with that same caption. Posted by: whatever at December 16, 2011 12:24 PM (O7ksG) Understandable, since you can't write cunt or bitch on a magazine cover after all?

549 On this day in 1946, Robert Byrd won the covet Exalted Cyclops merit badge which he proudly sowed onto his hooded robe.

550 Yeah, I'd be down in the sewers eating ratburgers if a Demolition Man came about.

My wife isn't as happy as I am that I traded some work for a Mossberg .270 with Tasco scope this week . . . .

551 In 1903, Orville and Wilbur Wright contemplated the "No smoking 12 hours before flying, no drinking 50 feet from the aircraft" rule. 

552 #558, They also like use the words 'radicals' as if it is some badge or honor or soft sissy protestor holding a poster style term and not the murderous revolutionary cabal which existed back then.

Those people are traitors and murderers for what they did back then and it has been a great miscarriage of justice that people with blood on their hands and hate in their hearts are now all comfortably influencing future generations in academia. Even more insultingly at taxpayer expense on the government teat. The same government they wanted to destroy back in the day.

553 Can last up to 10,000 hours. Can. But in practice they don't really last appreciably longer than the incandescents now, do they?

In my experience, yes, much longer. For me that makes them worth the extra dollar or whatever over filament bulbs.

I've seen modern LED bulbs which produce great looking warm light, but those buggers cost like 28$ at the store, each, with virtually no energy savings over CFL. I'm fond of LEDs and their ruggedness, but at that price, fuck that.

554 So a guy here at the jobsite was surfing the news and informed me that Sandusky's lawyer is claiming that the pervert was just teaching the boys how to shower. So, not to make light of the crime but when he was raping that kid that McQueary saw, what was he doing? Showing the boy how to clean his squeaker with a prick? Jesus on a pogo stick.

555

re:  Hitchens' passing.  Fuck cancer. 

Posted by: alexthechick at December 16, 2011 08:19 AM (VtjlW)

^^^^^this^^^^^

Man, I hate that fucking disease. I hope that little 17 year old girls idea goes way long, kills the everloving fuck out of all cancer and she makes a zillion bucks off of it.

Also, LED light bulbs for $19.99. Soft white bright light, not that dim blue bullshit that you get out of the WalMart GE crap bulbs.

Standard disclaimer, I work for the company that makes the LED chips, but they really are that good.

556

I think the old commsymps served a very important purpose:  sure, they were radical pinkos in their heydays, but they became washed out jokes by the time the 80s rolled around.  To a whole generation who came after the BB navel gazers, they were objects of derision.  Faced with siding with Tom Hayden or  Ronald Reagan, most of us chose Reagan. 

Unfortunately, the aimless Millenials rediscovered them, with Obama as their gateway drug.  But most of them will learn that lifelong unemploymentdebt is no way to go thru life, so they'll come 'round. 

557 In 1903, Orville and Wilbur Wright contemplated the "No smoking 12 hours before flying, no drinking 50 feet from the aircraft" rule.

Was that an accidental or comedic swap?
And can I buy a ticket?

558

Was that an accidental or comedic swap?

It's an old Air Force joke.  Probably pre-dates the Air Force. 

559 Where you want decent light, avoid the "soft white" CFL's and look for "bright white" somewhere in the 5-6000 Kelvin range.

560 321 274 We always used to have sword fights with the old fluorescent tubes. Now that I am older and wiser I will wear personal protective equipment. Sword fights gonna happen.
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Ya know, if you go find a high tension line you might be able to have lightsaber fights. I've seen a greenie show complaining about electrical fields that involved flourescents spontaneously lighting up under a high-tension line.

There's enough RF energy on some of the mountaintops in CA that all you need is a coil of wire attached to the back of the outlet with the lamp screwed into it to get enough light.

328

Did anyone catch this?  Some guy was arrested in New York for declaring an unloaded gun in his luggage because his CCW license from California isn't valid in NY.  Oh, yeah- he's a bigwig in the Tea Party Patriots group, so OF COURSE that was the first thing mentioned:

http://is.gd/fPDVq9

If he was in transit, then he's protected by law. 18USC926A is the operative law here, AKA the Firearm Owners' Protection Act. If he was traveling from a location where it was legal for him to possess the firearm to another location where it was legal for him to possess the firearm, and was in continuous transit, just changing from one mode to another, he's covered.

The most recent case was Revell v. PANYNJ, where the prosecutor decided to null prosse the whole thing, but it took over a year for him to get his firearms back.

561 to paraphrase The Patriot, it's better to suffer on tyrant 3,000 miles away rather than 3,000  tyrants one mile away

For the record, that was originally a Boston Tory sentiment (pre-4/19/1775) expression

562

If he was in transit, then he's protected by law. 18USC926A is the operative law here, AKA the Firearm Owners' Protection Act. If he was traveling from a location where it was legal for him to possess the firearm to another location where it was legal for him to possess the firearm, and was in continuous transit, just changing from one mode to another, he's covered.

The most recent case was Revell v. PANYNJ, where the prosecutor decided to null prosse the whole thing, but it took over a year for him to get his firearms back.

Posted by: Smokey Behr at December 16, 2011 12:53 PM (QyeW7)

Another reason we need to get HB822 passed.

563 Ace, like your thoughts on this Wall Street Insider guy who interviews with Ulsterman?  Have you checked it out recently?

564

The light bulb ban is still on, by the way.  Now, it just doesn't start until September instead of January.

The main reason for the light bulb ban is because GE wasn't making enough margin on incandescents. They make a much better margin on their CFL's.

565 Delurking to chime in on the lightbulb thing. There are very good reasons to be against the ban, and perfectly legitimate personal reasons not to like the CFS's themselves. However, I don't buy the argument that they don't really last longer than incandescents. Since I switched to CFL's nearly 5 years ago, I've had exactly two burn out (out of around 20 that I currently have). Some that I bought in '07 are still burning, one of which is in my bedside lamp that gets turned on and off constantly. I do buy brand names, so that might be the difference. But I switched to them because I was sick of constantly replacing incandescents (usually GE). I don't know if it's had any impact on the electrical bill, but that's not really why I switched to them. I'd prefer to use LEDs, but the prices have to come down. Just one guy's experience. The ban, of course, is idiotic, based on Algorean nonsense and typical statist power-grabbery.

566 A metal Halide lamp can last 36,000 hrs and has great light. I think I am going to put them everywhere in the house.

567 Thanks for sharing, please keep an update about this info. love to read it more. i like this site too much.

568 Excellent blog, thanks for the share. I'll be a regular viewer.

569 Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) says 'No' to RINO Romney at December 16, 2011 11:00 AM (8y9MW) You are fond of planting axioms, I see. Naturally occurring nonrandom behavior and outcomes are well known. Crystallization from solution is one simple example. I suggest you get thyself to a library and read about what really is known rather than wallowing in puddles of conjecture and circular reasoning.

570

That is useful information and its quite easy to come a croper if you are not vigilant.

571
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