December 02, 2011
— Gabriel Malor Happy Friday.
First up, the Case for Oklahoma State at the BCS Championship. As we head into Bedlam, some analysts are saying "Alabama? Really?"
Congress is indeed headed to a showdown with the President over the defense authorization bill. Last night, the Senate overwhelmingly (93-7) approved its version, which includes, with a limited waiver, a measure requiring the military to hold suspected terrorists linked to al-Qaida or its affiliates. The bill now must be reconciled with the House version (it also has a detainee provision) before the final bill hits the President's desk. The White House says the President stands by his veto threat.
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Both versions of the payroll tax 2% cut went down in flames in the Senate
The Democrat version defeated 51-49, 3 of the Dems voted with the Rs, 1 R (Susan “I’m a fking Dem” Collins voted for it). The Republican version which financed the cut by cutting spending was defeated by an even wider margin, 20-78, as more Rs joined the no vote along with all the Dems. All of these bills for the payroll tax cut are a damn joke. It will not do a damn thing to boost the economy.
There is only one thing that will give companies the assurance they need to start hiring and start producing again. That is to get the stumbling CF of a born losing asshole out of office along with at least 11 of the commie Senators. That latter is not going to happen, so it will be a continued tough road. But getting Obama back to his cesspool of shit in Chicago will be a start. At least then we can start undoing his executive fiat orders in EPA.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 02:59 AM (YdQQY)
The vote here was 93-7 indicating that there are many Rs, including a lot here at AOS, who donÂ’t give a flying shit about the Constitution. In short, the terrorists have won. They have got us to abandon the Constitution. This bill is S.1867 so it has not been to the House. Maybe they will save us, but I have no confidence in that. DonÂ’t believe the newspapers on why Obama is against this law. As Gabe said the other day, he is against it because it blocks sending Gitmo detainees to the U.S. for trial. If I am not mistaken there is already a law on the books doing that.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:00 AM (YdQQY)
Remind me to NEVER go to this hospital for routine surgery
29 y.o. woman catches fire during routine surgery to remove cysts. Received major burns on her face and neck. Standby insurance companies, this is one time the Buffet song about circling sharks will be accurate.
NY Daily News has before & after pics - WARNING not nice to look at
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
CBS makes a big deal about an ad comparing Obama to past gun grabbers Hitler and Stalin
The ad is accurate unlike all the Bush-Hitler shit that went down a few years ago that they had no problems with.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
Russia has delivered anti-ship cruise missiles to Syria
Let's not forget we have sent a carrier group over there. Russia has decided to restart the cold war and we have an anti-American asshole for a President.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
For the first time since it was invented TV ownership declines
I suspect 3 things are involved here. First the economy is shit so people donÂ’t have a lot of money, 2nd the price of TVs has risen sharply since HDTV was mandated and the old cathode ray tube sets were phased out, and lastly programming on TV is shit.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
This is why the government is not supposed to be involved in private business at all
GM has been busy overproducing cars and sending them to languish in showrooms all for the purpose of making the economy “look” better. These chickens will also come home to roost. We are looking more and more like the 1950s era Soviet economy and the outcome of that was awful.
I do hope the next republican President exposes all this shit to the public when he takes office because he truly will be able to blame these returning chickens on Obama and his communist cronies.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:04 AM (YdQQY)
Certainly not this one. Add it to the list boys, and start a punch card on when it will fail.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:04 AM (YdQQY)
Did you know your tax dollars are going to sponsor on-line soap opera shows?
I would love to know how this came about, but I definitely smell a rat here.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:05 AM (YdQQY)
Washington Examiner says 13 Senate Republican "old bulls" need to go.
Is “old bull” just a way of saying RINO w/o saying RINO?
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:05 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: San Antonio rose at December 02, 2011 03:06 AM (3bJHs)
Thanks Vic for finding the most depressing news on the Internet.
Posted by: Herbie at December 02, 2011 03:10 AM (t4YF+)
First up, the Case for Oklahoma State at the BCS Championship. As we head into Bedlam, some analysts are saying "Alabama? Really?"
I suspect a LOT of that will depend on the GA vs LSU game this SAT for the SEC playoff. And the reall pisser is I will not be able to drink cold liquids, i.e. no damn beer.Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:10 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Plymouthmom at December 02, 2011 03:11 AM (uoHSR)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2011 03:12 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:13 AM (YdQQY)
Naw. Even if LSU loses, it's going to the BCS. The fight is over who the other team is gonna be.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 02, 2011 03:13 AM (XVaFd)
I think this is the end. He had no reason to reveal the inside of his marriage.
Now he has opened his marriage to inquiry and comment, for no real purpose and no benefit.
Sad. He is such a good man. [underlining added]
platypus on December 1, 2011 at 7:27 PM
Such a good man?
Such a good man?
WTF?
Posted by: Random at December 02, 2011 03:15 AM (YiE0S)
Posted by: Herbie at December 02, 2011 07:12 AM (t4YF+)
I thought this douchenozzle was going to get the banhammer.
Posted by: Wyatt's Torch at December 02, 2011 03:15 AM (zxrQh)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 03:15 AM (MMC8r)
Thanks
Vic...I did not know that you had a "Crystal ball". Nobody can predict the future.
I don't know what your point is here, can you explain?
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:15 AM (YdQQY)
If LSU loses it will knock them back in the BCS rankings will it not?
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:17 AM (YdQQY)
This bill doesn't change that arrangement at all. All it does is limit the President's ability to move Al Qaeda terrorism detainees from military custody to civilian custody.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 02, 2011 03:17 AM (XVaFd)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2011 03:17 AM (Gc/Qi)
"Lengthy negotiations produced a face-saving move that the Senate backed 99-1, a measure that said nothing in the bill changes current law relating to the detention of U.S. citizens and legal aliens."
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at December 02, 2011 03:19 AM (XVaFd)
Did they change that portion of the bill after the amendment to change it was defeated? When I last looked at the bill it certainly did allow them to detain w/o trial or habeas corpus American citizens on American soil.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:20 AM (YdQQY)
I happen to agree with Krauthammer. Newt and Mitt are both flawed choices.. But it kinda looks like it will be one of them, barring any miracles between now and then.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2011 03:22 AM (UTq/I)
Unfortunately, that seems to be all we have to choose from this time around.
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 03:24 AM (MMC8r)
Oh, one more thing – he’s 20 years older than she is. Is it not possible that he simply viewed her like a daughter?
platypus on December 1, 2011 at 7:55 PM
I have decided many Cain supporters are just seriously stupid.
Posted by: Random at December 02, 2011 03:24 AM (YiE0S)
POS wasn't the right word for the Vega. There was one version that required you to remove motor mounts and lift the engine to change the plugs.
Any engineer who designed something like that should be shot.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 03:27 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 03:32 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: toby928© at December 02, 2011 03:32 AM (GTbGH)
CBS makes a big deal about an ad comparing Obama to past gun grabbers Hitler and Stalin.
Without reading, I'll bet they gave no analysis of how he is different but instead just whined. MFM journalism classes: where the slow people can still get a college degree.
Posted by: dogfish at December 02, 2011 03:37 AM (N2yhW)
For the first time since it was invented TV ownership declines.
My guess is there was an anomalous rise in the number of TVs owned per capita due to the impending digital switchover mandate followed now by the households ridding itself of the older TVs requiring the digital converter box. ...or maybe you are right and it is the economy.
Posted by: dogfish at December 02, 2011 03:45 AM (N2yhW)
Repealing a ban on women drivers in Saudi Arabia would result in ‘no more virgins’, [and] relaxing the ban would also see more Saudis -
both men and women - turn to homosexuality and pornography [according to] Muslim scholars at the Majlis
al-IftaÂ’ al-AÂ’ala, Saudi ArabiaÂ’s highest religious council, working in
conjunction with Kamal Subhi, a former professor at the King Fahd
University. (UK DailyMail)
If Saudi women could get behind the wheel of a car, they'd leave. Hence, the fear there would be no more "virgins" for patriarchal thugs to abuse.
And who the hell wants a "scholarly" degree from a university that fabricates "research" finding that women driving vehicles force the population into pornography and homosexuality?
And these same Saudis are given permission by our nation's leaders to direct US foreign policy to militarily advance this insane Saudi caliphate (Muslim Brotherhood) throughout the Middle East.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 02, 2011 03:48 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 02, 2011 03:49 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 03:50 AM (SV1nj)
Then, they started inventing cars and everyone in America started driving.. and voila! We got homsexuals coming out of our ears!
And have you seen a virgin lately??? I sure haven't!
I think these guys might be on to something!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 02, 2011 03:52 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 03:53 AM (SV1nj)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 03:55 AM (SV1nj)
And the women might take the goats with them, which is probably the thugs' real fear.
Posted by: Retread at December 02, 2011 03:56 AM (ALZZ7)
No I went and looked at the appropriations bill. It did contain language for that. As Gabe said, they adopted a compromise that removed that.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 04:01 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Truman North at December 02, 2011 04:02 AM (I2LwF)
Nice to see Politico tanking and to see TV ownership decline -- two good signs of intelligence in the American people.
Not good at all to find out we the people are financing fucking soap operas. There's another perfect example of where a guillotine could be used profitably to discourage further future behavior by our overlords. I bet they could videotape that and put it on the soap; viewing would soar. Mission accomplished.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 02, 2011 04:04 AM (ENKCw)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 04:04 AM (SV1nj)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 04:06 AM (SV1nj)
I'll take 1-AA (or whatever the NCAA nitwits are calling it now) and lower football any day of the week...they actually decide the champion on the field in the other divisions, instead of it being 90% or more determined by the name of the school and where it was ranked preseason as it is in 1-A.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 02, 2011 04:07 AM (rLhp2)
That is not going to change unless two things happen:
1. They balance how players are recruited which I am not sure how that can be done. Players are always going to want to go with a winner, preferably close to "home" but mostly a winner. and...
2. They go to a playoff series like the NFL and eliminate this bowl game BS. But that is not going to happen because the bowl game BS makes too much money.
Besides, right now the SEC is the dominant conference, like it or not. For a long time it was the big ten, but they have been sliding lately.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 04:12 AM (YdQQY)
Who stopped or formally reprimanded AG Holder for dismissing the case against Philadelphia's neuer Black Panthers?
Who is reprimanding Potus Obama with impeachment for attacking with federal lawsuits States that protect resident citizens even as said Potus is granting pardons to convicted members of organized crime?
Who is reprimanding members of Congress for insider trading, for absconding with massive tax funds, for voting to bail-out fraudulent banking corporations, corrupt manufacturing corporations, and nations all bankrupt?
Who officially denies traveling citizens our constitutional rights through ritual abuse?
Who enables fraud and the dissolution of Constitutional Governance?
What ever happened to the neoconservative DHS/terrorism war ethic: "We're fighting over there so we don't have to here" rationale, just more water under the bridge along with "winning the hearts and minds of the enemy."
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 02, 2011 04:17 AM (lpWVn)
Chill down the Chivas and warm up the secretaries:
Middlesex assistant district attorney Joseph P. Kennedy III says heÂ’s not ruling out running for Barney FrankÂ’s congressional seat. He is the son of former U.S. Rep Joseph P Kennedy II and the grandson of Robert F Kennedy. His uncle was late U.S. Senator Edward 'Ted' Kennedy.
A source close to the Kennedy family told the Boston Herald that the grand-nephew of President John F Kennedy is ‘very seriously considering this. It won’t be a flip decision.’
Mr Kennedy, 31, told the Boston Herald Tuesday: ‘I’ve always thought politics is an honourable profession. It demands that you give it careful thought before you jump into it.’
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at December 02, 2011 04:17 AM (3wBRE)
There is only one test for intelligence in the American people, and it is scheduled for election day 2012.
Posted by: real joe at December 02, 2011 04:24 AM (w7Lv+)
Posted by: Bear Bryant at December 02, 2011 04:25 AM (GrgBt)
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 04:26 AM (SV1nj)
Regarding the source, it wasn't the Heritage Foundation, but the ACLU that sounded the alarm against Obama directing his administration to lie and refuse records requested, to act without authority. (Lawryn/November)
No surprise, given Obama's personal/educational lack of transparency on record.
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 02, 2011 04:26 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: The Pirates Your Mother Fears at December 02, 2011 04:30 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 04:43 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: nickless will probably get accidentally banned again soon at December 02, 2011 04:48 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 02, 2011 04:56 AM (1Jaio)
I am reminded time and again how little removed we are in time from the stage of civilization the Saudis are in. Until the late 1960's, the AAUW (which women were required to join at most universities) banned women riding in cars. Judge Bork stated in "Slouching Toward Gomorrah" that moral decline stemmed from the young being able to listen to rock'n'roll, which they could do because of car radios (FWIW, the first radio in a car was installed by young Barry Goldwater).
Today young(ish) conservatives post links to thrash and metal on the ONT to illustrate a point, or serve as background reading music. Those who grew up with uninhibited (Althouse: "unadultered") access to pop music have no feeling for just how revolutionary a development this is. We occasionally get a poster on here who feels that it's unAmerican.
Posted by: comatus at December 02, 2011 04:57 AM (N0OTq)
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 04:59 AM (Og1Kk)
Sound familiar? Despite impressive advancements like lithium batteries, nothing much has changed.
One hundred years of progress!
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 05:07 AM (Og1Kk)
As if!
Posted by: No Whining at December 02, 2011 05:09 AM (Og1Kk)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 05:10 AM (niZvt)
Vic, the cost of TVs has plummeted. Do you remember how much a 20" color TV cost in the 1980s? About $400. They are about $150 today, and that is unadjusted dollars.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 05:18 AM (nEUpB)
Hell they were over $1000 for a 26" console when I worked in the TV shop in the late 60s but that number is irrelevant.
While an equivalent 32" flat screen is only about $300 for a good one, before they dropped out the cathode ray tubes you could get one for $200. (both these prices based on WalMart)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 05:23 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 05:28 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 05:30 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: sTevo at December 02, 2011 05:31 AM (1xFfC)
The Heldrich Center at Rutgers has issued a new report that says only 7% of people who lost their jobs after the financial crisis have made it back to their former levels of work and financial security
Summary: http://tinyurl.com/cgj5f76
Study (.pdf): http://tinyurl.com/82tevws
Brought to you by that "fundamental transformation of American society"TM we were all promised.
Posted by: crisis du jour at December 02, 2011 05:32 AM (J1eJz)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 05:32 AM (niZvt)
Posted by: CoolCzech at December 02, 2011 09:32 AM (niZvt)
Not really, they were not compatible with HD requirements.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 05:38 AM (YdQQY)
Not to worry. Bush told us he looked in Putin's eyes and determined he was a good man.
Posted by: Barbarian at December 02, 2011 05:45 AM (EL+OC)
Irony Alert! Black student forced to remove confederate battle flag from his dorm at USC (SC)
One wonders if the NAACP in SC will support him in getting his “rights” back.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 05:46 AM (YdQQY)
Are you sitting on your porch, drinking America's best product?
TVs are far better and far cheaper than they were before the digital mandate.
In this case the mandate came after the technology was available (unlike the stupid fleet mileage fiasco).
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 05:54 AM (nEUpB)
I think this would help. What would also help is if they ranked more than - what is it? - the top 25 teams. Why not rank 1-100?
At the end of the day, I actually preferred the old way. It seems a foolish exercise to try to come up with a national champion unless you're going to do a real playoff system. All they've done now is ruin some old bowl traditions, like the Rose Bowl.
Posted by: Y-not at December 02, 2011 05:59 AM (5H6zj)
Besides, right now the SEC is the dominant conference, like it or not. For a long time it was the big ten, but they have been sliding lately.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 08:12 AM (YdQQY)
Oh, I don't expect it to ever happen, but that's what it would take to get me interested again. I've never understood why they couldn't just use the bowl games (the biggest however many it takes to get thru the size field they go with) as the sites for the various playoff games. Of course, the answer is, they don't want to, not that they can't, because this system keeps all the money flowing to the usual suspects in the usual conferences. Sort of like American politics in DC.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 02, 2011 06:00 AM (rLhp2)
But it was in OT, and OT is a crap shoot. OSU is also undefeated in regulation.
Honestly, a part of me always wants Alabama to get another NC but I won't cry when we get boned by the voters. We more than had our chances to beat LSU in regulation so the boning is self-inflicted.
On the plus side, I hear we have a commitment from one of the top ranked HS kickers for next year. It's pretty obvious that a good freshman can be a 5 years starter for Alabama.
Posted by: toby928© Perrykrishna with tattooed knuckles at December 02, 2011 06:03 AM (IfkGz)
Posted by: Preference For Simpletons at December 02, 2011 06:08 AM (Ur51i)
Posted by: Y-not at December 02, 2011 09:59 AM (5H6zj)
There is that, too. Which, of course, makes the "we must preserve the tradition of the bowl games" excuse for not having a playoff system sound even more hypocritical, since they already ruined it with the current bloody system.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 02, 2011 06:09 AM (rLhp2)
Posted by: moki at December 02, 2011 06:10 AM (dZmFh)
Disagree on both scores, unless by better you mean sharper picture. They are NOT cheaper and they are far more unreliable than the technology that came just before.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 06:16 AM (YdQQY)
That said, if you take the original color 32" TV's when the Tech came out, lets just look at mid 1970's prices and adjust to inflation they would cost Several Thousand Dollars today, adjusted to inflation. Thats beside the point of being lesser technology with less options.
Flat Screens have Moore's law being applied to them and they will continue to get cheaper and cheaper as the years go on. Plasma is cheaper than LCD or LED because its the oldest of this Tech and the equipment has been paid off to produce by now.
Posted by: jp at December 02, 2011 06:33 AM (x7byD)
I know that, but is as close as you will get for cost comparison. But I wouldn't call and old style 32" the same as a new 42".
Plasma is cheaper right now because they are marking them down due to lower popularity and CA outlawing them. Technically, the experts still rate them higher in picture quality than LCD/LED.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 06:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 06:38 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: mr. bitterness at December 02, 2011 06:40 AM (ePVBs)
http://tinyurl.com/bra8zas
"See your friends, see your future" ... are you listening, Philly? DC?
Posted by: crisis du jour at December 02, 2011 06:40 AM (J1eJz)
Posted by: steevy at December 02, 2011 06:42 AM (7WJOC)
If you ignore the incredibly sharp picture of a modern TV, what are you comparing...color quality? If so, modern TVs are better in that too!
I would like to join you on your porch and have a few glasses of whatever you are drinking. I'll bring the hot chocolate chip cookies.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJconservative) at December 02, 2011 06:43 AM (nEUpB)
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 06:57 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: ace at December 02, 2011 07:19 AM (nj1bB)
Alabama didn't lose a game during regulation play and the game that they did lose in overtime was to #1 LSU..Oklahoma State got beat by who? Iowa State, really?
By the way: Go Noles!
Posted by: Broomy at December 02, 2011 07:21 AM (EGlZ1)
O/T: Saudi officials warn that if women are allowed to drive it will end female virginity and turn all men teh ghey. (Link is to Weasel Zippers).
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Starting it of with “on this day”….On this day of infamy in 1970 the EPA was formed. The agency was proposed by Nixon under an executive order (sound familiar) in July 1970 but at least he got congressional approval which happened on Dec 2, 1970. It would be nice if 2012 we have an executive order dissolving the EPA.
Posted by: Vic at December 02, 2011 02:58 AM (YdQQY)