December 20, 2011
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The technology wars are heating up. Apple just got HTC smartphone sales banned in the U.S. Apple sought a ban on the sales of Samsung's Galaxy Tabs across the globe and got one in many places. But Samsung says the ban backfired by turning the Galaxy Tab into a household name.
Skype is offering free airport wifi over the holidays. You just have to have the latest version of skype installed...
Nevada has only sold 10 tickets to its bowl game. Dude.
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Biden: Taliban Not U.S. Enemy 'Per Se'
I could have changed that headline to a snappy funny snark one, but Biden brings his own snark. No need.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:01 AM (YdQQY)
Hey you fraking idiot look, there is a 200 ton elephant over there smoking dope and shitting on the couch.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: mugiwara at December 20, 2011 03:02 AM (KI/Ch)
The SOB is not stupid or incompetent. That premise assumes he actually wants to make things better.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:02 AM (YdQQY)
This is the kind of shit that Wall Mart has to put up with in local and national papers
Why are these papers so dead set against Wall Mart? Because Democrats are against Wall Mart is why. So why are Democrats against Wall Mart? Because big labor is against Wall Mart is why. And they are Wall Mart h8ters because the workers of Wall Mart refuse to embrace the suck known as unions. But what never ceases to surprise me is why this paper is able to sell a single issue in SC.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:03 AM (YdQQY)
Income tax chart-fu from Heritage
I am against this tax plan for two major reasons: (1) It is too high and (2) it is not flat as advertised. (probably because it is not flat) If we are going to go through the shit to make a flat tax, lets make it a flat tax.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:05 AM (YdQQY)
And finally a remark with no link regarding Fox. They are making a big deal on asking Mutt a “tough question” on whether or not Barky is a “socialist”. Hey you idiots why not ask Mutt if HE is a socialist? Hint: He is. Obama is a Communist. But I doubt if you people at Faux News know the difference between a Socialist and a Communist.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:06 AM (YdQQY)
Nevada has only sold 10 tickets to its bowl game. Dude.
LOL, well Gabe, how many tickets did the Idaho Potato Bowl sell?
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:08 AM (YdQQY)
As for the Wal-Mart story, they ran another Wal-Mart bashing in the NY Daily News yesterday because they're still attempting to put one in Harlem. All the teeth gnashing about how the shitty bodegas that would be put out of business, not a mention about the low, low prices the residents of Harlem would be able to enjoy. Not that I care that much, seeing how I pay the wages for the average Harlem layabout, I could care less that they don't have a place to go to get good savings, but of course that's not the angle the Daily News takes.
Posted by: mugiwara at December 20, 2011 03:09 AM (KI/Ch)
LOL, my problem today is not from the chemo. I thought I was ready for a "rocker day" yesterday. Had to drink my bourbon through a straw because the ice burned my lips. But thanks.
As for the Wal-Mart story, they ran another Wal-Mart bashing in the NY Daily News yesterday because they're still attempting to put one in Harlem.
Aren't these local papers the shit? Why are they all in the tank for Dems and unions. Wall Mart in Harlem or downtown Columbia would be a huge boon to minorities but the assholes cow-tow to the unions and ignore the good for the minorities. Which poses another question.
Why do minorities continue to work on the Democrat plantation despite the fact that the Dems regularly kill them and take them for granted?
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:15 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2011 03:15 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Non-anti-Semitic ghost of HenryFord at December 20, 2011 03:16 AM (xHenH)
Good Morning Morons. Its Tuesday December 20th and I feel like shit.
Which qualifies you, Vic, for a free membership in the Curmudgeon's Union in your area. This valuable promotion is only available for a limited time to a few select people who display the proper and necessary life-experience and overall philosophical outlook befitting a Curmudgeon, regardless of cause.
As a member, you'll receive many benefits, such as a "Walter" doll from the Jeff Dunham Collection, a copy of Gran Torino, along with a signed page from the script of the original movie "Grumpy Old Men."
We hope you take full advantage of your membership in the CU.
Welcome. Now, get off my lawn.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 20, 2011 03:17 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:20 AM (YdQQY)
All seriousness aside, I hope you feel better soon, Vic.
We need all the Morons we can get. Curmudgeons too.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 20, 2011 03:20 AM (d0Tfm)
Hi Vic, I've momentarily surfaced from my comfortable lurking to wish you all the best, hope you feel better too as the day wears on...
And I know you are into saying Happy Holidays in the US but here Down Under, Merry Christmas is still acceptable - so Merry Christmas Vic to you and your family and best wishes especially to you on your recovery
It's after 11pm here and I should be baking some promised Christmas cookies but here I am lurking instead....
Posted by: aussie at December 20, 2011 03:21 AM (PMAH2)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 20, 2011 03:22 AM (UTq/I)
Thanks aussie, us Morons here refuse to kow-tow to the PC police and the "happy holidays" crowd. We are ALL on the Merry Christmas boat. And that includes the "moderates".
So aussie Merry Christmas from Vic and family from South Carolina, USA.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:24 AM (YdQQY)
Can I trade that for a bottle of cheap bourbon?
Um, all I have for a trade is this half-empty bottle of Valu-Rite. Hope you don't mind the ring of varnish around the base, I managed to pry it off the coffee table right just before it melted into the wood last night after some of it spilled down the side.
Valu-Rite, it's not just for breakfast anymore.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 20, 2011 03:25 AM (d0Tfm)
Posted by: Darth Randall at December 20, 2011 03:29 AM (O/onO)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 20, 2011 03:30 AM (d0Tfm)
LOL, can't do that today. Planning on going to a big dinner with wifey tomorrow for our 30th anniversary. Wouldn't do to feel like shit tomorrow.
And speaking of breakfast, need to go make some now that news is posted.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:31 AM (YdQQY)
I clicked back to FOX.
Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 03:31 AM (9XykO)
Ron Paul taking the lead (in some polls at least) in Iowa is the BEST thing that could have happened to Newt.
Now for the next 2 weeks, the long knives will be out for Paul trying to paint him as nutty and extreme (not hard to do). I PROMISE you, the RNC and TPTB in Iowa do not want Paul to win Iowa.
So for the next two weeks Paul gets the media enema and Newt comes out looking quite reasonable and intelligent by comparison. Also, I believe that some Newt voters who have shifted to Perry and Bachmann may come back to Newt because they don't want to split their votes and give Paul the win.
IMHO, this whole thing is a perfect setup for a Newt win in Iowa.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 03:34 AM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Jones at December 20, 2011 03:35 AM (8sCoq)
28 J.C. Watts on Fox just endorsed Eye of Newt
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 07:27 AM (YdQQY)
well duh, Newt helped Watts get elected in 1994
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 03:36 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 03:40 AM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 07:01 AM (YdQQY)
well yeah, I think it's silly to say that there is "no establishment"
HOWEVER....
there is a difference between the "establishment" that actually exists, and the "establishment" that exists only in the fevered imaginations of those who are prone to paranoia and believing in conspiracies
to hear some on our side talk, "the establishment" is like some CIA special ops unit that goes into Republican voters' homes in the dead of night and brainwashes them into supporting Mitt Romney, or something
I think the power of "the establishment" is vastly overstated; moreover IMO it is just often used as an excuse for why someone's preferred candidate is not doing as well as they would like ("what? Huntsman is only polling at 1%? It can't be because Huntsman is flawed, oh no no, it's.... ESTABLISHMENT!!!)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 03:43 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: blaster at December 20, 2011 03:49 AM (Fw2Gg)
Posted by: Lawrence of the Labia at December 20, 2011 03:50 AM (ORFIZ)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 07:38 AM (s7mIC)
How about "capitalist-flavored statist"? He seems to want a slightly-more efficient but just large federal government as we have now.
None of them are a pure (or even close) this or that...in practice, Obama isn't a Marxist any more than Stalin was. They're both fascists who happen to use the terminology and buzz words of Marxism. There are socialist-flavored fascists and Marxist-flavored ones, but they all want all the power they can get their grubby little hands on which makes them fascists in reality. It's not got a thing to do with "workers of the world unite"...it's always been "elitist pricks of the world unite and rule the masses".
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 03:50 AM (hcJkV)
Posted by: Random at December 20, 2011 03:51 AM (YiE0S)
Posted by: Random at December 20, 2011 03:51 AM (YiE0S)
apparently the issue of the day is whether texting while driving should be a "primary offense", i.e., if the police should be able to pull you over based on that alone, and not just for speeding or something
and the idiot man-on-the-street interviews for those in favor, every single one, are the same: "yes, because it will SAVE LIVES". Are people incapable of understanding that giving police the power to pull you over for texting will not necessarily save any lives, but will in fact lead to more hassle and more bogus tickets? urgh it irritates me that most people have no common sense anymore
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 03:53 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 20, 2011 03:53 AM (p7SSh)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell
.........
Newt doesn't want to win.. he's selling books..
He's going through the motions.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 20, 2011 03:53 AM (UTq/I)
Posted by: Random at December 20, 2011 07:51 AM (YiE0S)
What I've seen the last 3 or 4 decades looks more like devolution than evolution to me.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 03:53 AM (hcJkV)
I think the power of "the establishment" is vastly overstated; moreover IMO it is just often used as an excuse for why someone's preferred candidate is not doing as well as they would like ("what? Huntsman is only polling at 1%? It can't be because Huntsman is flawed, oh no no, it's.... ESTABLISHMENT!!!)
Posted by: chemjeff
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+10
Oh.. and add to that the "media" shoving Mitt down our throats as well.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 20, 2011 03:56 AM (UTq/I)
What is your evidence for this claim?
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 03:56 AM (s7mIC)
But Harry Reid told me Obama's policies were working and that the Silver State's economy had turned the corner!
Was Harry fibbing?
Posted by: Little Miss Spellcheck at December 20, 2011 03:58 AM (xqhoO)
If the Huckster's win in 2008 didn't discredit it, Crazy Uncle Ron won't either
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:00 AM (s7mIC)
32, who on earth is NOT dancing on Kim's grave, with the exception of hopelessly brainwashed North Koreans. I wonder if they can be "fixed" or if malnutrition has permanently ruined their brains.
And for my headline, we have the fucking nanny state of Seattle: http://tinyurl.com/6rhzqnj and the bleeding idiots who keep re-electing the same economic ignoramuses time after time after time.
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 04:01 AM (2/wCx)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 07:56 AM (s7mIC)
Everything he's proposed - especially his seeming inability to say for certain he'll get rid of Obamacare - is tinkering around the edges of the bloated federal government. I've not seen anything from him that leads me to think he'd do anything better than "slow the growth" of the thing. As far as I'm concerned, any politician who is okay with the size of government we have today, with all the facets of what should be our private lives that it intrudes into, is a statist. Mitt says all the right things about free markets and capitalism, etc., but he seems to be okay with the federal government sucking up all the daylight in this country.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:02 AM (hcJkV)
Christianity was the force most responsible for stopping biological evolution, with its emphasis on valuing all life infinitely. Now, coupled with medical technology, biological devolution is increasing.
But it doesn't matter. Our species is serving its purpose: We are developing artificial intelligences, nanotechnology, and biological/neurological hybrids. This exponentially increasing technology is the next form of evolution, and it will vastly outstrip biological evolution.
It took 2 billion years to move from single-celled to multi-celled organisms. Since the Cambrian explosion of animals with brains, intelligence has been increasing, and increased rapidly in the primate family and specifically in the hominid line.
It took 14 years to move from PC to Internet. You see rapid exponential growth of technology all around us. Right now, our AI is quite limited and brittle, applied to only narrow, but expanding, areas. Soon, with exponential growth, it will become massively more intelligent than us, eventually supplanting us.
Biological evolution is giving way to technological evolution. This will probably kill children born today - and almost certainly their children ... if not ours, already living.
Posted by: Random at December 20, 2011 04:03 AM (YiE0S)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 08:01 AM (2/wCx)
Jimmuh Carter? One of his BFF's just died...have some consideration for his grieving. :-)
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:03 AM (hcJkV)
Posted by: runningrn at December 20, 2011 04:08 AM (By4zB)
Posted by: Madeleine Dimbulb at December 20, 2011 04:09 AM (By4zB)
Posted by: corsets at December 20, 2011 04:10 AM (Wj3p5)
But Mitt hasn't said he is "okay with the size of government we have today".
See here is the problem. It is these ridiculous attacks on Mitt that make me want to support him more, not less. He isn't a socialist. He isn't a statist. He is a "turnaround" guy, a competent manager. He does not have a 100% ACU rating, for sure. That is not the reason to vote for him. The reason to vote for him is if you value competent management more than perfect ideological agreement on every single issue. I think Mitt will shrink the size of government because it is patently and obviously clear that this is what has to happen. I don't think he will do it for some ideological reason, true - I think he will do it for a pragmatic reason. I guess that is not good enough for the Mitt haters though.
Oh and FTR as I posted last night on the Perry thread, I am somewhere around 55-45 Romney/Perry support right about now. So I'm not 100% sold on Mitt. I just don't think he is the Devil.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:10 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 04:10 AM (2/wCx)
Posted by: Learflyer at December 20, 2011 04:12 AM (9vscO)
All the talking pie-holes at MsNBC are giving Kim a tongue-bath. Ostensibly, to not talk ill of the dead.. or, sumpthin'.
Nevermind, I read something yesterday, about human body parts being for sale in the meat section of grocery stores in North Korea.
Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 04:12 AM (9XykO)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 08:10 AM (2/wCx)
sounds tasty
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:16 AM (s7mIC)
Ah yes, more wonders of the Arab Spring brought to you in no small part by Barky O and Hillary C. The good news is that since the Egyptian masses still have the koran, they don't need any other reading material (nor do the rest of you by the way).
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 20, 2011 04:17 AM (i3+c5)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:19 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Yip in Texas : OMG at December 20, 2011 04:20 AM (cQhQZ)
Ron Paul as a third party candidate. I wouldn't put it past the nasty little shithook.
Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 04:21 AM (9XykO)
JC Watts must still have a lingering concussion from playing football.
Posted by: Learflyer at December 20, 2011 08:12 AM (9vscO)
I think JC likes articulate candidates that have fought establishments on both the left and right
but seriously he's good buds w/ Hannity who's good buds w/ Newt so there's prob a connection there
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:22 AM (yAor6)
The guy said we can't let Social Security become a "Perry Scheme" and spent a month scare-mongering seniors that Perry was going to try to slash their benefits. That doesn't indicate to me he's willing to take a realistic look at entitlements.
He is a "turnaround" guy, a competent manager
He didn't turnaround MA. He took over from a line of Republican governors and did about as good as they did. He would have been crushed if he tried to run again, which he had no intention of doing anyways.
I think Mitt will shrink the size of government because it is patently and obviously clear that this is what has to happen.
Or, Mitt will attempt pander his ass off to get through two terms. He's a resume checker, just like Soetero. You think he gave a shit about MA? He checked the checkbox he'd run a state, then left it. Apres Mitt, les Deval.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 04:22 AM (FkKjr)
See here is the problem. It is these ridiculous attacks on Mitt that make me want to support him more, not less. He isn't a socialist. He isn't a statist. He is a "turnaround" guy, a competent manager. He does not have a 100% ACU rating, for sure. That is not the reason to vote for him. The reason to vote for him is if you value competent management more than perfect ideological agreement on every single issue. I think Mitt will shrink the size of government because it is patently and obviously clear that this is what has to happen. I don't think he will do it for some ideological reason, true - I think he will do it for a pragmatic reason. I guess that is not good enough for the Mitt haters though.
Oh and FTR as I posted last night on the Perry thread, I am somewhere around 55-45 Romney/Perry support right about now. So I'm not 100% sold on Mitt. I just don't think he is the Devil.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 08:10 AM (s7mIC)
I don't think he's the devil either, but I also don't think he's the sort...has the mindset? philosophy? determination?...to take on the drastic changes that have to be made to get us turned around again. If the size of government shrinks under a President Romney, I think he'll be dragged kicking and screaming into going along with it. With - hopefully - a Republican Congress doing the dragging, I'm not sure anything will get done, given the record of the GOP in Congress on such things. You don't know where I'm getting the idea that he's a statist? Where in the world are you getting the impression that he'd chop the federal goverment down to size? This is a guy who thinks it's just fine that the federal government can coerce an individual into buying health insurance, but he's going to decrease the federal interference in our lives once he's president? Is it this notion that it "has to happen"? Folks in charge of printing money might not agree with us on that and just keep spending and printing more.
That said, I suppose it's more an impression with me re: Mitt than any one thing he's said (well, other than refusing to dump Obama/Romneycare into the dustbin of history where it belongs), but he just exudes status quo to me. (shrug) But yes, I'll still vote for him if he's the nominee, but surely not in the primary if I have a choice left by early March.
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 04:24 AM (hcJkV)
Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 08:21 AM (9XykO)
Paul's inclusion in the race can give Obama a Clintonian sub-50% performace in the popular vote and an electoral landslide
that means fluke wins for him in states like MT or GE
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:24 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: runningrn at December 20, 2011 08:08 AM (By4zB)
Sad. I hate to hear of the loss of knowledge like that. However, no doubt the muz vermin who are taking over that blighted land would have burned all that eventually anyway. It's just a shame it couldn't all be scanned and preserved electronically here in the West.
Posted by: Reactionary at December 20, 2011 04:25 AM (xUM1Q)
The MSM continue to exhibit their bias even on simple real news stories. Egypt actually "had" rare unbelievable antiquities in large quantities and was a historical treasure trove. But since the people of simple muslim faith "liberated" Egypt, none dare criticize the aftermath. Not like Iraq at all.
Posted by: Hrothgar at December 20, 2011 04:26 AM (i3+c5)
First off you have to define "socialism" in a manner more aligned with the original definition and not the one foisted on us by the leftest media. Socialism is NOT the same thing as Communism. The leftists called it that to deflect attention from themselves because socialism has a bad rep.
Socialism was originally defined by Marx (who invented the term) as an intermediate step between capitalism and communism. Socialism simply is a means of economic policy by a government to use public money raised through taxes to implement social programs to benefit a segment of the population (usually low income). The United States is riff with these kinds of programs that started finding their way into government in the early 1900s.
Communism is a means of economic control in which the government owns the means of production of goods and services and there is no right to "private property". The United States is rapidly marching into that state as fast as the Democrats can push it.
Meanwhile the other bugaboo, Fascism, is similar to Communism except that the government does not own the means of production or private property, it simply controls them through government regulation. We have been there since the mid 60s.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:26 AM (YdQQY)
>>We are ALL on the Merry Christmas boat.
Damn straight Skippy.
Merry Fucking Christmas Morons
fuck the pc police- greetings to ALL from a Masshole.
Posted by: sickinmass at December 20, 2011 08:20 AM (1rflU
*applause*
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:27 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2011 04:29 AM (Gc/Qi)
Posted by: Yip in Texas : OMG at December 20, 2011 04:31 AM (cQhQZ)
My prediction. Newt wins Iowa with 30+% of the vote.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 04:31 AM (uVlA4)
Well runningrn you can hardly expect the MFM to be outraged by burning rare and historical artifacts when they yawned at the religion of piss storm troopers stripping and beating women to death with metal rods.
However, if GWB had backed this takeover they would be screaming at 300 db from the tops of all the buildings.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:31 AM (YdQQY)
Well, Perry did call SS an unconstitutional Ponzi scheme. I don't approve of Romney's scaremongering, no, but I do think it's fair to point out what Perry's view of the matter is.
He didn't turnaround MA.
What would you have considered a "turnaround" for MA?
You think he gave a shit about MA?
Well yes I do think he did, and still does. I'm not that cynical.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:31 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2011 08:29 AM (Gc/Qi)
THIS
I dont buy into the whole establishment controls all conspiracy theories but they def. are all in on Romney and if he wins they're not entirely the reason he does
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:32 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at December 20, 2011 04:33 AM (Ho2rs)
For tomorrow night: http://tinyurl.com/2a29wnl and an appropriate quote from one of our favorite Gentiles: I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.
Video courtesy of Bookworm Room.
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 04:33 AM (2/wCx)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:31 AM (uVlA4)
I think Iowa either goes to Newt (more likely) or Perry (less likely but possible), folks forget it's a caucus and folks can work together to make sure a certain candidate doesn't win like in 08
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:34 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Random at December 20, 2011 08:03 AM (YiE0S
You've been watching "Terminator" again, haven't you?
Posted by: HH at December 20, 2011 04:36 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:36 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:37 AM (YdQQY)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 04:37 AM (2/wCx)
Please. Show us, and the world, how wonderful, modern, and efficient green energy can be by retrofitting Candlestick Park with the latest and greatest green tech. And to demarcate this momentous occasion from the past, might I also suggest updating the name of the stadium from Candlestick Park to Fuckstick Park?
Posted by: Fritz at December 20, 2011 04:38 AM (/ZZCn)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 04:41 AM (2/wCx)
I think the reason so few Nevada fans are going to Hawaii for the bowl game is that they went to the same bowl two years ago. Christmas in Hawaii might be kinda cool once, but not every frickin year. Stupid (or more likely, greedy) of the school to acceot that bid.
Posted by: buzz at December 20, 2011 04:42 AM (i27M5)
I think the reason so few Nevada fans are going to Hawaii for the bowl game is that they went to the same bowl two years ago. Christmas in Hawaii might be kinda cool once, but not every frickin year. Stupid (or more likely, greedy) of the school to acceot that bid.
Posted by: buzz at December 20, 2011 08:42 AM (i27M5)
not to mention it ain't cheap to fly to Hawaii
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:44 AM (yAor6)
Is Perry wrong? Is it not a ponzi scheme?
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:44 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2011 04:44 AM (z5FDd)
Except he didn't point out Perry's view. Perry explicitly said he wasn't going to target current seniors. Exactly ten seconds later in the debate, Romney said Perry was going to target seniors. That should speak volumes about the man.
What would you have considered a "turnaround" for MA?
MA's biggest problem is massive corruption. Mitt was never going to win that one. And yet, tackling entitlements will be harder than dealing with the MA legislature. Is Mitt up to the task? Does he possess the political fortitude to touch something so radioactive as entitlements?
His screeds against Perry don't fill me with much confidence.
Well yes I do think he did, and still does. I'm not that cynical.
Apres Mitt, Les Deval. And Mitt doesn't seem to care to much about that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 04:44 AM (FkKjr)
I guess they forgot the story about real estate people lying about real estate numbers.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:45 AM (YdQQY)
might I also suggest updating the name of the stadium from Candlestick Park to Fuckstick Park?
Windmill Park has a nice ring to it...
Posted by: HH at December 20, 2011 04:46 AM (KB0hv)
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 08:44 AM (X6akg)
hes not wrong but it makes easy pickings for the Dems to fearmonger, which is why it's important to see how Perry will fight back that freamongering
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:46 AM (yAor6)
Let me fix that for you Duke
Romney has huge problems: His record
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:47 AM (YdQQY)
Both Romney and Gingrich Tie Obama on 2012 Ballothttp://tinyurl.com/77h6nwc
Considering that the Republican vote is still fractured and the Obama vote is as consolidated as it is going to be - and many of those saying they support Obama may not even vote - and it appears we are headed for an electoral blowout of epic proportions.
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 04:48 AM (uVlA4)
hes not wrong but it makes easy pickings for the Dems to fearmonger, which is why it's important to see how Perry will fight back that freamongering
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 08:46 AMAnd important for Mitt to engage in that fearmongering?
Remember when everybody went off on Newt for using 'Democrat talking points' against Mitt about Bain Capital? Why the fuck isn't Mitt held to the same standard?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 04:48 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2011 04:49 AM (z5FDd)
Posted by: franksalterego at December 20, 2011 08:06 AM (9XykO)
Yes. and his opinion means a lot to me. I respect him.
Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2011 04:49 AM (OlN4e)
Remember when everybody went off on Newt for using 'Democrat talking points' against Mitt about Bain Capital? Why the fuck isn't Mitt held to the same standard?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 08:48 AM (FkKjr)
and you think that me wanting to see how Perry fights back against that fearmongering makes me happy Mitt did it?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:49 AM (yAor6)
hes not wrong but it makes easy pickings for the Dems to fearmonger, which is why it's important to see how Perry will fight back that freamongering
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 08:46 AM (yAor6)
They're dems....fear mongering is what they do no matter what anyone says.
He's repeatedly said that those on ss and those nearing it have nothing to fear....it will be there for them.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:50 AM (X6akg)
http://tinyurl.com/cfblhhb
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 20, 2011 04:50 AM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Retread at December 20, 2011 04:50 AM (ALZZ7)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:48 AM (uVlA4)
let's not start sucking our dicks just yet, anything can happen 1 year out of the election, we can't ever get complacent
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:50 AM (yAor6)
See, this is what I'm referring to.
You want to reduce the size of government so as to decrease federal interference in your life. I understand that. I want that for myself too, frankly.
I think Romney would decrease the size of government, but perhaps not due *solely* out of a desire to reduce federal interference in people's lives. I think his major motivation would be because it is clearly and obviously the correct thing to do from a managerial standpoint. Would you disagree with that?
But because he wouldn't want to reduce government from a purely ideological or philosophical basis, from that you take away the message that somehow Romney is "okay" with the size of the government we have now, or that he wants to *increase* government? That is what I don't get. That is where I think the Mitt-haters jump the shark in their criticism of Mitt.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:51 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:52 AM (YdQQY)
He's repeatedly said that those on ss and those nearing it have nothing to fear....it will be there for them.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 08:50 AM (X6akg)
so did Dubya and that bill went down in flames
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:52 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 08:52 AM (YdQQY)
im SHOCKED he hasnt won your vote
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:52 AM (yAor6)
Both Romney and Gingrich Tie Obama on 2012 Ballot
http://tinyurl.com/77h6nwc
Considering that the Republican vote is still fractured and the Obama vote is as consolidated as it is going to be - and many of those saying they support Obama may not even vote - and it appears we are headed for an electoral blowout of epic proportions.
* Repost - first one got screwed up and was unreadable
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 04:52 AM (uVlA4)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at December 20, 2011 04:53 AM (X4EXc)
All I want for Hanukkah is for one of the Maccabees to hammer Cramer
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 20, 2011 04:53 AM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Rick Perry at December 20, 2011 04:54 AM (MYL/G)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:48 AM (uVlA4)
let's not start sucking our dicks just yet, anything can happen 1 year out of the election, we can't ever get complacent
Wow, you can DO that?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 04:54 AM (uVlA4)
N.J. gay couple fight for custody of twin 5-year-old girlsHate to have to eat Xmas dinner at their house. Sister surrogates for brother's "husband"
wow, very unusual case and a tough one for me if I was the Judge
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:54 AM (yAor6)
I'll make a wild ass guess and say she gets all her news form MSNBC and a local liberal rag.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 04:55 AM (YdQQY)
Wow, you can DO that?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:54 AM (uVlA4)
I like qouting movies, take no hint from that comment
*looks around nervous*
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 04:55 AM (yAor6)
If the choice is between re-election and solvency, which path do you think Mitt will take?
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 04:55 AM (FkKjr)
Do these people hire the same plumber who floods their house?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 04:56 AM (uVlA4)
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:56 AM (uVlA4)
NJ consistently votes Democrats into power and will continue to do so... It's a freakin' cult of stupidity..
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 20, 2011 04:58 AM (GaIwz)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 20, 2011 04:58 AM (XE2Oo)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 04:58 AM (i6RpT)
so did Dubya and that bill went down in flames
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 08:52 AM (yAor6)
And what was our deficit at that time?
Things are different now....people realize something has to be done.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 04:58 AM (X6akg)
well look. The issue of "Ponzi scheme" aside, Perry saying that SS is unconstitutional, and then saying SS won't be touched for current seniors, is inconsistent on some level. If Perry thinks it's unconstitutional, doesn't that mean Perry would modify, or "touch", SS for current seniors, so as to make it into whatever Perry thinks would be constitutional? That is what I took away from Romney's "Perry Scheme" jab.
And no I don't think it is appropriate to go scare seniors on the issue, but he does raise an important point.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:58 AM (s7mIC)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at December 20, 2011 04:59 AM (X4EXc)
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 04:59 AM (s7mIC)
132 You know though, seriously, what the hell is the thinking pattern of anyone who would actually go to the ballot box and vote for Obama again?
None whatsoever, just like the first time.
Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2011 04:59 AM (OlN4e)
Do these people hire the same plumber who floods their house?
Posted by: Bill Mitchell at December 20, 2011 08:56 AM (uVlA4)
Have you ever heard of John Gibson? He has a radio show. Listen to it some time. He's a moderate, pragmatic GOPer but more fiesty and fun then Mike Medved. He allows libs up 1st on his call lines, that's how Ive come to see how depraved and brainwashed the liberal mind is. Bush spent billions so they think Obama has to spend more to fix his mess. According to them we just gotta ride the recession that won't end out just a little more and we'll be back to a Clinton-type economy! Yes this is what they really think.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:00 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Jean at December 20, 2011 05:00 AM (WkuV6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 05:00 AM (i6RpT)
Rep. Allen West: "I have to tell you, listening to Mr. Sperling, I never met him but he truly did seem to me to be an idiot that was just repeating some very weak talking points. You have to understand one simple thing, the national payroll reporting consortium today came out and said that this two month extension cannot be properly implemented. And who would ever think of economic policy just going for a two month incremental time period?"
Allen West for President
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 20, 2011 05:01 AM (1Jaio)
Posted by: The terrorist Hobbit formerly known as Donna at December 20, 2011 08:59 AM (X4EXc)
I heard Couric is eyeing the anchor's desk again, why a network would let her anywhere near onbe after what she did to CBS' ratings is beyond me
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:01 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Jean at December 20, 2011 09:00 AM (WkuV6)
Random is slowly becoming the second coming of The Hall Of Famer Troll Christoph
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:02 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 09:00 AM (i6RpT)
In the Navy, doesn't shit generally surf downhill?
Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2011 05:02 AM (OlN4e)
And what was our deficit at that time?
Things are different now....people realize something has to be done.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 08:58 AM (X6akg)
they do? acoording to polls most Americans want Govt cut down but don't you dare touch their goodies like Social Security and such. Look I want Govt cut down too (including SS which I wish I could opt-out of) but we have to be crafty about it in our messaging and we should first go after the unpopular programs like Medicaid.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:04 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 05:05 AM (i6RpT)
NJ consistently votes Democrats into power and will continue to do so... It's a freakin' cult of stupidity..
Posted by: The Robot Devil at December 20, 2011 08:58 AM (GaIwz)
and had Corzine not been Corzine Cristie prob wouldnt have won in 2009, the state used to be more moderate when you look at it's past numbers. HW won it in 88 and would have won it in 92 had it not been for Perot. Bush had a respectful showing there in 04 and the GOP came *this* close to winning senate seats year after year. But since the latter half of the last decade it seems to be going bluer and bluer.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:08 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: nevergiveup at December 20, 2011 09:05 AM (i6RpT)
I never thought I would see you blame your shitty situation of Bush......
Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2011 05:09 AM (OlN4e)
Posted by: maddogg at December 20, 2011 05:10 AM (OlN4e)
You want to reduce the size of government so as to decrease federal interference in your life. I understand that. I want that for myself too, frankly.
Not for that reason only. We also can't afford it, unless we're ready for the USA to be a banana republic or worse for the foreseeable future. We already have the right president in place for that...Hugo Chavez, North.
I think Romney would decrease the size of government, but perhaps not due *solely* out of a desire to reduce federal interference in people's lives. I think his major motivation would be because it is clearly and obviously the correct thing to do from a managerial standpoint. Would you disagree with that?
I think his econ plan and his record and his temperament all point to tinkering around the edges...at best. The problem is too big for tinkering and some streamling or "synergies created" if you want to use corporate takeover terminology to fix. Best case, if we even got the best case, he'll slow the growth, maybe.
But because he wouldn't want to reduce government from a purely ideological or philosophical basis, from that you take away the message that somehow Romney is "okay" with the size of the government we have now, or that he wants to *increase* government? That is what I don't get. That is where I think the Mitt-haters jump the shark in their criticism of Mitt.
Posted by: chemjeff at December 20, 2011 08:51 AM (s7mIC)
How do you get the message from anything he's said that he'd drastically cut anything? When he can't even bring himself to admit that Obama/Romneycare was a bad (and budget-busting) idea? What is he doing to cut if he won't even agree that one needs cutting? Sounds to me a lot like you're taking "well, I think things will have to be cut drastically" and projecting that onto Romney as "well, of course he'll have to cut drastically after he's elected because that what a good manager would do." When have things ever worked that way in DC?
Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 20, 2011 05:12 AM (hcJkV)
i'll say this, if Romney wins the nod and wins the Presidency he holds the fate of the republican party in his hands. do what must be done and get re-elected and known as one of our best Presidents, fuck up and not only do you invite a 3rd party but the Republican party will probably start to dissolve
just my take
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:14 AM (yAor6)
So, tell me, how is the individual mandate a conservative idea?
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 20, 2011 09:14 AM (OWjjx)
wow you just destroyed the Romneybots' arguments in two swipes
JeffB hardest hit
where's the Romneybot polynikes by the way? I miss him calling me a troll, guess I outlasted that whiny little bitch huh?
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:16 AM (yAor6)
I would argue that someone could think something is unconstitutional but recognize that it can't be sunset right away, particularly a program that many people planned around. I think you are straining to justify the unjustifiable on Mitt's part.
Perry explicitly said he wouldn't. To believe otherwise requires you cast aspersions on Perry's motives. Which is fine, but don't get upset when people do it to Romney.
That is what I took away from Romney's "Perry Scheme" jab.
I took away that Mitt was being a transparent scare-monger.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 05:17 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Tonestaple at December 20, 2011 05:18 AM (2/wCx)
they do? acoording to polls most Americans want Govt cut down but don't you dare touch their goodies like Social Security and such. Look I want Govt cut down too (including SS which I wish I could opt-out of) but we have to be crafty about it in our messaging and we should first go after the unpopular programs like Medicaid.
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 09:04 AM (yAor6)
I agree but....Republicans? Crafty? Bwahahahahaha!
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 05:18 AM (X6akg)
I agree but....Republicans? Crafty? Bwahahahahaha!
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 09:18 AM (X6akg)
yes I know
*whimpers*
I wish the GOP was more ruthless, gutsy, crafty, and had better PR but unfortunately they're not and the country is hurting because of it
Posted by: AuthorLMendez, Keeper Of The Troll Hall Of Fame at December 20, 2011 05:19 AM (yAor6)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 05:20 AM (FkKjr)
So, tell me, how is the individual mandate a conservative idea?
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 20, 2011 09:14 AM (OWjjx)
I'll take a stab at answering for them:
Because Phoebus Romney did it, and he is the next Reagan.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at December 20, 2011 05:22 AM (FkKjr)
My sister and I recently won a title battle over my parents house...long story, won't bore you with the details. The title was in someone else's name last year and they didn't pay the property taxes. Per a court order the title is back in our name but penalties and interest have accrued from last year's back taxes. Are we responsible for the P & I?
I know the taxes go with the property, not the owner but we couldn't have paid the taxes last year even if we wanted to....we were not the owners of record of the property.
The house is in Missouri....if that's pertinent.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 05:31 AM (X6akg)
http://tiny.cc/ot3px
Posted by: Tom at December 20, 2011 05:31 AM (T/eUh)
Posted by: Empire of Jeff at December 20, 2011 05:33 AM (0yt4x)
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 05:43 AM (YdQQY)
http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=9-DuC0tE7V4
Sing it with Romneybot vs. Lollipop, No SpecOps required, We're all about downsizing.
Posted by: The Mittens will be here at December 20, 2011 05:45 AM (RDri2)
Watch schools of herring or tuna, geese or starlings, it's the flock not the size of the fish.
Posted by: The Mittens will be here at December 20, 2011 05:56 AM (RDri2)
That was a lie promulgated by AP. He congratulated Obama on being the nominee but he did not "support" him. What he actually said was that people should not expect him to "automatically support McCain". Now that is entirely understandable. He also criticized the Republican Party leadership which is also understandable.
The actual party contributions record shows that he gave money to the McCain campaign and not to Obama.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 05:58 AM (YdQQY)
Excerpt:
"The second time I called him a communist, I said 'You're a communist a**hole," Alonso said. She added that she later regretted using profanity, but is not sorry.
Posted by: mrp at December 20, 2011 05:58 AM (HjPtV)
The important question is will the Singularity cause it's proponents to vanish up their own assholes and how many surrounding posts will get sucked off the internetz.
Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2011 05:59 AM (RDri2)
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Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 20, 2011 06:10 AM (whanP)
The Winter solstice is Dec 22 and the shortest day will occur then. The actual position of the Sun for the solstice will occur at 05:30 on Dec 22.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 06:19 AM (YdQQY)
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Thanks for "internet hug".
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 06:20 AM (YdQQY)
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Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 20, 2011 06:35 AM (whanP)
Posted by: Mama AJ at December 20, 2011 06:36 AM (XdlcF)
(shudder)
Are they trying to turn me off men? Because when you keep showing Barney Franks' nipples potentially have that power.
Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2011 06:37 AM (z63Tr)
Are they trying to turn me off men?
Worse than that, I think they're trying to turn me off boobs.
Posted by: DngrMse at December 20, 2011 06:45 AM (9RGd1)
(shudder)
Are they trying to turn me off men? Because when you keep showing Barney Franks' nipples potentially have that power.
Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2011 10:37 AM (z63Tr)
I'm sure the story Drudge put under the Barney story was purely coincidental.
Posted by: Tami at December 20, 2011 06:47 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: moki at December 20, 2011 07:11 AM (dZmFh)
hahahaha.
I did not notice that!!!!
Posted by: shibumi at December 20, 2011 07:11 AM (z63Tr)
Hope that helps.
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at December 20, 2011 11:49 AM (OWjjx)
Thank you, Mallamutt. It does confirm what I had heard.
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Good Morning Morons. Its Tuesday December 20th and I feel like shit.
Posted by: Vic at December 20, 2011 03:00 AM (YdQQY)