December 22, 2011

Top Headline Comments 12-22-11
— Gabriel Malor

This is guaranteed to send Ron Paul and the Ronulans into a frothing rage.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:52 AM | Comments (120)
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Good Morning Morons it’s Dec 22, 2011. The Winter Solstice occurred today at 5:30 a.m. EST. The shortest day of sunlight during the year is today. And if you have an unobstructed view of the Eastern horizon you can find exact true East today by observing the rising of the Sun. By plotting a line pointing to that you can then plot another line at 90° anglers and get the other two cardinal points. The ancients knew this, possibly as far back as 8000 BC at Stonehenge, so why did we lose it? We got smart with the magnetic compass which points to magnetic North, not true North. For example true North is app 7° West of where magnetic North points for my location. Now on to this morning’s doomy news.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:53 AM (YdQQY)

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Syrian troops wipe out an entire village of 100 people

The White House said it was "deeply disturbed" by Tuesday's attack, France called it a "murderous spiral," and the Arab League reminded the Assad regime of its responsibilities to protect its civilians.

I smell another strongly worded letter.  There must not be an active fundamentalist Muslim group ready to take power in Syria and begin beating women to death with metal rods because they wore a “blue bra” underneath their black potato sack.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:53 AM (YdQQY)

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Another bottom tier schmuck goes to jail while Pelosi skates

One wonders when someone will use the 14th amendment defense for this shit. Laws that are enforced unequally become null and void.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:54 AM (YdQQY)

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A lot of people have been worried about Posse Comitatus lately

No need to worry about using military in arresting citizens. WeÂ’ll just turn the local police into military.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:54 AM (YdQQY)

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The only people buying volts are the government and other dealers

The dealers are selling them to each other in order to get “tax credits”.   But read the comments on this video. The stupid burns.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:54 AM (YdQQY)

6

Karl Rove calls for Republicans to fold on Tax mess.

Get out of Washington you RINO POS.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:55 AM (YdQQY)

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Congress is raising hell about new Obama Labor department power grab for "child safety" rules on farms

And the Obama idiots wonder why they are not getting an economy bump? It was my understanding that farms were exempt from child labor laws. How is it that they can back door in executive fiat regulations?  In addition, where is the big increase in child accidents on farm work that caused the need for these regulations.  This is just one more example of federal agencies run amuck when the Democrats are in charge.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:55 AM (YdQQY)

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:56 AM (YdQQY)

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Energy prices will necessarily skyrocket

Remember that one? We thought we dodged that bullet when the crap and tax bill was halted. Not so, the watermelons have still succeeded in driving them though the roof via executive fiat.  And congress does nothing.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:56 AM (YdQQY)

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:56 AM (YdQQY)

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70% of Americans support voter ID

One wonders who the other 30% are? Anyway, a lot of people were celebrating that SCOTUS ruling yesterday where they upheld the IN law. I was surprised that more Morons were not aware that this was not the first case they had ruled these laws as ok.  There was a previous GA case that won out. The key to making it OK was making the IDs free to low income people.

 

Yet after multiple cases where SCOTUS has ruled these laws are ok Holder and the ACLU continue to challenge them in order to promote election fraud for Democrats. This is nothing short of “lawfare” and both of these commie groups should be held accountable.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:57 AM (YdQQY)

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Another example of why you can not believe a single number coming out of Washington these days

Census bureau says $90,000 income is poverty.  I must be really destitute then.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

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A few days ago I remarked that all the press coverage of the new EPA rules were not giving the complete story.

All they mention is new Hg controls. Nobody ever mentions ObamaÂ’s backdoor executive fiat CO2 rules. Here is more on that.  But I really like this statement about the EPA.

Second, the benefits of particulate reduction and mercury reduction are based on questionable assumptions.

Questionable, how is that for an understatement? How about fraudulent.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:58 AM (YdQQY)

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 02:59 AM (YdQQY)

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Man who helped subdue underwear bomber wants $10M from the bomber and the airline

Another example of why every State in the union needs to get rid of the BS partial liability laws (joint and several liability). These laws are lawyer boons that allow a litigant to get 100% of the damages from a defendant with the deepest pockets regardless of their impact on the case. This is blatant robbery and would have never been enacted if lawyers didnÂ’t populate the State legislatures.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

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Well thatÂ’s it for today.

Today's doom puppy.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:00 AM (YdQQY)

17 How is it that they can back door in executive fiat regulations? 

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 06:55 AM (YdQQY)

Because icky things like laws and the Constitution don't apply to god-kings and their minions. Such things only apply to mere mortals/Republicans.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 22, 2011 03:00 AM (hcJkV)

18 Well Gabe, we have sent them into a rage here quite frequently. I have lost track of the number of unknown names of posters on here lately.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:03 AM (YdQQY)

19 holy crap, i just turned 34 yesteday.  jeez.  time flies.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 03:05 AM (JvP2I)

20 34! young whipper-snapper, now get off my lawn

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:07 AM (YdQQY)

21 Rabinowitz. Isn't that a Jewish name?

Posted by: Paulbot in Mom's basement with nothing better to do at December 22, 2011 03:08 AM (Co8vu)

22 The shortest day of sunlight during the year is today.

In the Northern Hemisphere.

Those filthy SouthernSpherists are stealing our daylight! This must not stand!

Posted by: Jeremiad was a Bullfrog at December 22, 2011 03:09 AM (Og1Kk)

23 Oh come on Gabe. What have angry, racist, America-hating, conspiracy-obsessed, pork-loving, lying trollish leprechauns ever done to you?

Posted by: Ms Choksondik, hoping for a Perry miracle at December 22, 2011 03:12 AM (fYOZx)

24 Those filthy SouthernSpherists are stealing our daylight! This must not stand!

Posted by: Jeremiad was a Bullfrog at December 22, 2011 07:09 AM (Og1Kk)

Yeah, they're stealing our heat too!

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:16 AM (YdQQY)

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20- hee hee!  it's crazy though, man.  i couldn't remember how old i was.  i had to do the math in my head.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 03:18 AM (JvP2I)

26 Branch Paulinians=Code Pink

Posted by: dananjcon at December 22, 2011 03:19 AM (8ieXv)

27

 holy crap, i just turned 34 yesteday.  jeez.  time flies.

Hell, I don't even remember turning 34.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 22, 2011 03:21 AM (d0Tfm)

28 did anyone see andrea tantaros on faux news' 'the five' yesterday.  good lord.  it was... nice.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 03:22 AM (JvP2I)

29 Ron Paul is the only man who can save America from the Joo/Muslim/Black/White/Asian/Korea/German/Mammal/Venusian/Martian Lobby.

Posted by: computer program at December 22, 2011 03:24 AM (n+kUs)

30 I flipped through there and saw her sitting in the "leg chair" with a short dress on. But even that wasn't enough to get me to stay on that worthless show.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:24 AM (YdQQY)

31

Census bureau says $90,000 income is poverty.

Where is my free shit then?  Hell, I could use those food stamps.

Posted by: Case at December 22, 2011 03:27 AM (DYR2Q)

32

"Under my cap and trade plan, your utility bills will necessarily skyrocket."

"9-11 was the fault of US imperialism."

It seems neither one of these idiotic statements registers with the public. Where's the indignation? Who the hell would be stupid enough to vote for any presidential candidate who said either of them?

Don't answer that.

Did IQ's suddenly go down?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 22, 2011 03:28 AM (d0Tfm)

33 I turned 34 in Paris. Broke up with my fiancé that afternoon and spent the night on my balcony in the light rain drinking a bottle of Cognac, smoking two packs of french cigs and reading a Dashiell Hammett novel. Thanks for reminding me you bastard. Now get off my lawn.

Posted by: er at December 22, 2011 03:28 AM (n+kUs)

34 30-  worthless?  yes.  but i am easily distracted by such things.  and i wanna stab beckel.  with a hammer.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 03:28 AM (JvP2I)

35 Ron Paul - brought to you by Obama voting "conservatives" like Andrew Sullivan, Conor Friedersdorf and Dave Weigel, who usually spend their time pointing out how extremist, racist and fringy todays GOP is. 

Posted by: Elize Nayden, Newtist at December 22, 2011 03:28 AM (UeUki)

36 28 did anyone see andrea tantaros on faux news' 'the five' yesterday.  good lord.  it was... nice.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 07:22 AM (JvP2I)

We fap at five.

(they really need to jettison fat, pumpkin head Beckel.) 

Posted by: dananjcon at December 22, 2011 03:30 AM (8ieXv)

37 On second though, that wasn't yesterday, that was the day before yesterday. I left the house yesterday at 4:45 to go over to "The City" for our 30th anniversary dinner.

Nice to go over there for something besides being poisoned.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:31 AM (YdQQY)

38 I think Ron Paul is the most moderate candidate on the Right. IPresident Obama would hate to have to face him in the general election.

Posted by: Barry S. at December 22, 2011 03:32 AM (n+kUs)

39 Anyway, a lot of people were celebrating that SCOTUS ruling yesterday where they upheld the IN law.

I've been looking into IN license requirements, since I'll be getting one next week (I need to bring five separate documents...).  If you have a current IN license or ID but can't show proof of legal residence--nevermind proof of CITIZENSHIP--you can get a "non-secure ID" that can be used for voting.

So, illegal aliens who are already here can still get ID to vote (including those who started on student visas and just never went home).

Tra-la.

Posted by: HeatherRadish, Maiden aunt at December 22, 2011 03:32 AM (hO8IJ)

40 Are there actually people out there who like Ron Paul other than for his weed stance? When I see/hear a paulbot I figure it's a stoner.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 03:33 AM (1RaCw)

41 33-  eesh.  sorry.  tough crowd this morning...  i'm gettin off the lawn.

Posted by: whiskey tango at December 22, 2011 03:35 AM (JvP2I)

42 Furthermore, I read a very clever speech I made President Obama made in Texas Kansas that distances himself from Dr Paul's isolationist views.

Posted by: Barry S. at December 22, 2011 03:37 AM (n+kUs)

43 I wasn't on your lawn, I was on the side walk.  Why are you yelling at me?

Posted by: Turd Ferguson at December 22, 2011 03:39 AM (WUWb9)

44

OK, ya'll, I'm off.

And I'm leaving, too. Although I rather doubt there'll be much salt mined today, this is our last work day before the Christmas Holiday.

Have fun and try not to trash the place, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 22, 2011 03:39 AM (d0Tfm)

45 BTW, thanks for doing this every morning Vic. I really appreciate it and I read all your links. And Merry Christmas.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 03:39 AM (1RaCw)

46 42 And take that ball with you damn it. You'll hear from me about those flower beds. This isn't the last of it!

Posted by: er at December 22, 2011 03:41 AM (n+kUs)

47 BB I would have left work until after New Years last week, unless I got stuck with "on call". I hated being there during the last two weeks of the year when all the Engineers were closing out their projects and coming to us for help while half the crew was gone.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:41 AM (YdQQY)

48 Thanks dagny, and Merry Christmas to you as well.

And Merry Christmas to all you other Morons, including you young whipper-snappers.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:42 AM (YdQQY)

49 Oh crap. I forgot I have to work today.

Posted by: er at December 22, 2011 03:42 AM (n+kUs)

50 Merry Christmas Vic, Morons and Whipper-Snappers.

Posted by: er at December 22, 2011 03:43 AM (n+kUs)

51

BTW, thanks for doing this every morning Vic.  Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 07:39 AM (1RaCw)

Echo and amplify the comment.  The museum grade snark is appreciated too. 

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 22, 2011 03:49 AM (OBDWE)

52 Holder should be fired.  He only uses the DOJ for social justice crap.  He lets anything else slide.  What it amounts to is he is not doing his job.  Put that with F&F and the jerk is not fit to hold office.

Posted by: Case at December 22, 2011 03:49 AM (DYR2Q)

53 #39  Heather Radish,  the law wasn't crafted so much towards illegals as to people voting multiple times,  using the identities of people who were dead or who had moved away.  Indiana also purged its voter roles,  which were packed with people in those categories.

Democrats were keeping all sorts of people on the books who were no longer valid voters,  and then using those identities to add democrat votes to the tally.
They have been howling for several years now about how this "disenfranchises" people, but have yet to come up with someone who lost his vote because of the new identity requirements.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 22, 2011 03:50 AM (GoIUi)

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Did IQ's suddenly go down?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, President, Curmudgeon's Union Local 427 at December 22, 2011 07:28 AM (d0Tfm)

No, it's been a decades long process thanks to teacher's unions and their allies...the so-called "long march through the institutions" or whatever the official name is for the radicals' to subvert all of America's education institutions. They've pretty much accomplished what they set out to do, too.

Posted by: davidinvirginia at December 22, 2011 03:52 AM (hcJkV)

55

Holder should be fired fried.

FIFY

Posted by: Mr. Dave at December 22, 2011 03:52 AM (OBDWE)

56 What do the M&M's think about that bike ride?

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 03:53 AM (YdQQY)

57 #58  I watched about half,  and then had to quit.  I have a fear of heights and it was too much for me. 

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 22, 2011 03:54 AM (GoIUi)

58 From a Don Surber link, here is what the Washington Times tells us about the second worst president ever:

"In the message Jimmy Carter extended condolences to Kim Jong Un and the Korean people over the demise of leader Kim Jong Il. He wished Kim Jong Un every success as he assumes his new responsibility of leadership, looking forward to another visit to [North Korea] in the future," the KCNA dispatch read.

When contacted by The Washington Times for comment, the Carter Center provided an email contact to a spokeswoman who is out of the office until the New Year.


So Carter is OK wishing a dictator every success. What a guy.

I guess to be charitable I should point out that the story is based on a release by the NORK state media so it just might be questionable. OTOH, to provide an email contact that is away for the holidays indicates a certain lack of concern about being flung in the 'sympathetic to dictators' briar patch.



Posted by: Retread at December 22, 2011 03:55 AM (ALZZ7)

59 I had to have a tooth pulled tuesday. It's the one that has taken the brunt of my grinding. It had been root canaled, capped etc. It finally just crumbled and was irritating the gums. I'll get an implant in 6 mo. Anyway, 1. Son of a bitch that was worse than I thought it would be and 2. How long till I can chew on that side? I have a super high pain threshold btw and have had 2 out of 3 kids natural childbirth on petocin (contraction intensifier) but this is really uncomfortable.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 03:55 AM (1RaCw)

60 Put that with F&F and the jerk is not fit to hold office. Along with Mr. Dave @ 57, pair *anything* with F&F, and the jerk is not fit to be walking around outside of a greybar hotel.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at December 22, 2011 03:57 AM (p7SSh)

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Posted by: Retread at December 22, 2011 07:55 AM (ALZZ7)

I don't doubt for a second that Carter had the most tender feelings for his communist dictator friends

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 03:57 AM (1RaCw)

62 52 is the most erotic spam we've ever had

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 03:58 AM (1RaCw)

63

A lot of people have been worried about Posse Comitatus lately

No need to worry about using military in arresting citizens. WeÂ’ll just turn the local police into military.


Posse Comitatus is not the barrier many think it is.  It is also a law, and not a part of the Constitution. It can very easily be changed by passing a new law.


Contrary to popular belief, the Act does not prohibit members of the Army from exercising state law enforcement, police, or peace officer powers that maintain "law and order"; it simply requires that any orders to do so must originate with the United States Constitution or Act of Congress.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Posted by: f2000 at December 22, 2011 03:59 AM (c7Pp2)

64 Now is the winter of our discontent.

Posted by: Dave C at December 22, 2011 04:01 AM (QQ2c3)

65 2. How long till I can chew on that side?

Don't know, but you can drink on that side right now.

Posted by: Retread at December 22, 2011 04:02 AM (ALZZ7)

66 Wow this is soo helpful I have been trying to figure this out on my own for a long time now. Hopefully making this change will help encourage discussion on my blog.

Posted by: The Christmas Note ePub at December 22, 2011 04:05 AM (Mey7i)

67 We are not the World's Police Force. That is bullshit. We are out there to keep the fuckers away from here. "Take the killbox to the sandbox."

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 22, 2011 04:05 AM (6H6FZ)

68 The point is I take a number of on-line polls and reducing our overall military presence around the world has become a very centrist view. Personally, I don't see how much longer we can be the worlds police force when the nation borrows 40 cents of every dollar it spends.

Posted by: The PenIs Mightier at December 22, 2011 07:33 AM (phlKA)


There is nothing wrong with a non-interventionist policy as long as it's for the right reasons. Paul reasons are a complete reverse from reality. Muslims don't attack us for our policy positions, they attack us because of Islam. It's not Paul being political when he doesn't lay the blame where it belongs, it's what he believes.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 22, 2011 04:05 AM (GZitp)

69 67 Actually they said no alchol--it dissolves the clot. So you can see how this is a problem.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 04:06 AM (1RaCw)

70 69 We are not the World's Police Force. That is bullshit. We are out there to keep the fuckers away from here. "Take the killbox to the sandbox."

Posted by: SurferDoc at December 22, 2011 08:05 AM (6H6FZ)


Yet we let them walk right in the country everyday.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 22, 2011 04:06 AM (GZitp)

71 How do the Paulbots explain RP's endorsement of Crazy Eyes in 2008?

Posted by: Mike at December 22, 2011 04:08 AM (0hdwM)

72 I don't mind being the world's police force if it is in our long term interest. The whole point of foreign policy is to increase the power and economic viability of the US. This thing where we martyr ourselves because we have some fucked up guilt because other countries are stupider, more corrupt, have crappier natural resources, or dirtball cultures is relatively recent and stupid as hell.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 04:09 AM (1RaCw)

73

How do the Paulbots explain RP's endorsement of Crazy Eyes in 2008?

 

Dude, he's for legalization of marijuana. What were we talking about...?

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 04:10 AM (1RaCw)

74 Actually they said no alchol--it dissolves the clot. So you can see how this is a problem.

So, the Grinch is your dentist?

Posted by: Retread at December 22, 2011 04:12 AM (ALZZ7)

75 If legalizing marijuana was his only problem it would not bother me that much.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 04:13 AM (YdQQY)

76

Weasel zippers has a photo of Norks weeping at an escalator used by Kim Jong Il.

How far is this (if it's real) from the Chinese/Japanese emperor as god thing?

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 04:14 AM (1RaCw)

77 I have a theory.

Suppose you were a (God forbid) Democrat.

What is the point of caucusing with Democrats, when the outcome of the caucus is a forgone conclusion?

Why not register as a Republican, and caucus with Republicans, and vote for Ron Paul - the weakest, and most likely to lose to Obama?

Remember Rush's "Chaos" strategy?

It's the same strategy, only in reverse. And, it would account for the nasty little zealot's rise in the polls. It would also account for the Liberal-sounding comments from his "supporters"

It also gives a person two votes.. One for RonPaul - the weak candidate in the nominations, and one for Obama in the general.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 22, 2011 04:14 AM (9XykO)

78 Merry Christmas Vic!   And to all the ron's still around this fine morning...   I hope we get another Navy lip-lock-lesbo pic later on... yesterday was great..

Posted by: Yip in Texas : OMG at December 22, 2011 04:16 AM (FLFli)

79 Why not register as a Republican, and caucus with Republicans, and vote for Ron Paul - the weakest, and most likely to lose to Obama?

That is damn likely to happen here in the SC primaries. The Dems are not having a primary and ours are open.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 04:18 AM (YdQQY)

80

OT:

made a post this morning on ONT concerning poster named Ed Anger.

Please try to ensure reads.

Many thanks and Merry Christmas.

Posted by: danPlus at December 22, 2011 04:20 AM (uEut9)

81

OMG

Drudge--another downgrade. Prez Ofucknugget accomplishes next item on "Destroy Traditional Capitalist America" list.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 04:20 AM (1RaCw)

82 Ronulans are always frothing about something.

Posted by: Derpman at December 22, 2011 04:25 AM (R8g0w)

83 The Winter Solstice occurred today at 5:30 a.m. EST. The shortest day of sunlight during the year is today. And if you have an unobstructed view of the Eastern horizon you can find exact true East today by observing the rising of the Sun.

Actually, the solstice was at 5:30 am UTC, so 12:30 AM local time on the east coast and so on.

Also, the sun rises at its southernmost point in the Northern Hemisphere on the solstice.  It rises in the east on each equinox.

Posted by: Obama's Neti at December 22, 2011 04:26 AM (OOehk)

84

Good morning from Soggyville. Not going to be able to see the sun til possibly late afternoon.

So y'all could be totally making this "solstice" thing up.

Posted by: Mama AJ, looking suspiously at the other morons at December 22, 2011 04:31 AM (XdlcF)

85 Vic at December 22, 2011 08:18 AM

The press would have a field day, if he gets the nomination.. Particularly, with the race-card. His rhetorical record is obvious and provable. And, it's already beginning to catch up with him, as evidenced with the Blitzer interview.

Nevermind, his dangerous foreign policy positions.

Posted by: franksalterego at December 22, 2011 04:33 AM (9XykO)

86 Michael Douglas' kid who is already serving 5 years for meth dealing, got another 4 1/2 years for drug possession while in prison. The judge also ordered no family visits for 2 years. Now I've heard of prisons banning visits as a disciplinary matter, but never a judge. I wonder if they have some knowledge that a family member slipped him the drugs.

Posted by: Mike at December 22, 2011 04:35 AM (0hdwM)

87 61 Vicodin and milkshakes -- the breakfast of people with extracted back teeth. And lunch, and dinner. For a week or so. Seriously, don't let it get infected though. Do your salt water rinses or whatever the doc recommended.
 
If one of those bikers fell off that trail, I wouldn't weep much for the idjit. Just imagine the pure adrenaline rush he would get as he plummets towards the ravine.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 22, 2011 04:41 AM (ENKCw)

88 You're correct. Got that flipped. That will teach me to post from memory w/o verifying.

Sun rose in the SE this morning. Note that I couldn't watch it anyway here. Cloudy and raining.

True East will occur on Mar 20th.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 04:43 AM (YdQQY)

89 Militarized police forces link to Daily Beast

Posted by: museisluse at December 22, 2011 04:51 AM (4Lj43)

90 61 I had to have a tooth pulled tuesday. It's the one that has taken the brunt of my grinding. It had been root canaled, capped etc...1. Son of a bitch that was worse than I thought it would be and 2. How long till I can chew on that side? I have a super high pain threshold... but this is really uncomfortable.

Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 07:55 AM (1RaCw)

I went through the same thing 15 years ago- ground the tooth so hard after a root canal that the posts that were put in there broke through the root. The Vicodin/shakes idea is perfect- use a straw to miss the area of the extraction and add 4 ibuprofen to assist the prescription pain meds[if okay with the post-op instructions]. I think it was about 7-10 days before I was chewing on that side. Hope you feel better!

Posted by: museisluse at December 22, 2011 05:02 AM (4Lj43)

91 There's some rumblings that Manning sold the info to wikileaks. Has wikileaks paid for info before? It would make sense that Manning wanted $$ because he was soon to be out of a job.

Posted by: Mike at December 22, 2011 05:08 AM (0hdwM)

92 Headline/link from Fox:

New Weekly Claims for Jobless Benefits Fall to 364,000, Lowest Since April of 2008

Another lying POS number from the lying POS in office now.

Posted by: Vic at December 22, 2011 05:09 AM (YdQQY)

93 I broke a tooth and have ground it down to nothing. I'm dreading going to the dentist and I don't know why.

Posted by: Mike at December 22, 2011 05:09 AM (0hdwM)

94 64 52 is the most erotic spam we've ever had

Hmm someone needs attention...

Posted by: real joe at December 22, 2011 05:10 AM (w7Lv+)

95 My city local pipefitter union will do anything to get Obama re elected.

Posted by: UnionPipefitter at December 22, 2011 05:16 AM (4n6qe)

96

Hello Friends,

Our city electrical, HVAC, steel, carpenter and laborers unions are standing together to support Obama. God Bless USA.  Union patriot brothers and sisters.  

Posted by: UnionElectrician at December 22, 2011 05:22 AM (4n6qe)

97 We built this country together union patriot brothers and sisters.

Posted by: UnionElectrician at December 22, 2011 05:27 AM (4n6qe)

98 It had been root canaled, capped etc... but this is really uncomfortable.

Ah tooth pain, it's so damn annoying, standing in line at the pharmacy losing  the Interior Boy Scout monologue and ready to shove the next little old lady outta my way.

The over-the-counter benzocaine, orajel, clove oil, etc. works good temporarily. 


Posted by: DaveA at December 22, 2011 05:28 AM (GH3uG)

99 NO STRAW.  It pulls the clot out. You do not want dry socket.  Do Not Want.

Posted by: SarahW at December 22, 2011 05:29 AM (LYwCh)

100 I will only ever have teeth out at an oral surgeon's.   Dentists botch it too often,  damaging the socket and/jaw and leaving little bits behind.  Oral surgeons can do a flap and pop it out in pieces like popcorn.

Posted by: SarahW at December 22, 2011 05:31 AM (LYwCh)

101 Stick with the salt water rinses, and cold packs/ ice to the face.  You should simmer down in a day or two.  Best to avoid chewing on that side.  You'll hurt for 4 or five days if you are healing normally. The third and fourth days are usually worse, you might need pain meds those days.  You can eat and ought to eat but stick with soft foods and no hard or sharp food. 

Posted by: SarahW at December 22, 2011 05:37 AM (LYwCh)

102 Finding due North, on any day of the year, almost anywhere on the planet.

Observe the positions of the sunrise and the sunset, and bisect the angle.. Knowing that the sun always sets in the west - on your left, will always face you north. (if you're in the northern latitudes, your observations will be facing you southerly, and north will be at your back.)

You can do the same thing by drawing an imaginary line in the sky parallel to the horizon to substitute for the horizon.. Then, you don't have to wait as long.

Proof of theory: Imagine yourself on the Arctic Circle at noon on the winter solstice. the sun will rise and fall in the same spot, instantly, due south. As the year progresses, the sunrise and sunset will widen equally, moving easterly for the sunrise, and westerly for the sunset. If you move longitudinally, north to south, nothing changes but the height of the sun in the sky, and the included angle of sunrise and sunset.

On the other hand, when you need some sort of excuse...

Posted by: franksalterego at December 22, 2011 05:49 AM (9XykO)

103 Answer: by his investments, exactly what Monty does

Posted by: Chuckit at December 22, 2011 06:02 AM (1kr1a)

104 Morning all. Thanks for the news Vic. Passed the bike video on to my spouse. He is the idiot mountain biker in the family. One year he came home with a nice gash 1/8 inch from his eye. Wanted me to clean it out of debris and sew it up. Told him I only do that for children not adults who should know better.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at December 22, 2011 06:05 AM (dD3tG)

105 Isn't "frothing rage" pretty much the default setting for the Paultroons?

Posted by: meekrob at December 22, 2011 06:06 AM (/0HuL)

106 Yeah dagny you do not want dry socket. Had that over 35 years ago with wisdom teeth. Not a good thing.

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at December 22, 2011 06:06 AM (dD3tG)

107 #107 Is that related to "rage" from 28 days??

Posted by: San Antonio Rose at December 22, 2011 06:07 AM (dD3tG)

108 61 I had to have a tooth pulled tuesday. It's the one that has taken the brunt of my grinding. It had been root canaled, capped etc. It finally just crumbled and was irritating the gums. I'll get an implant in 6 mo. Anyway, 1. Son of a bitch that was worse than I thought it would be and 2. How long till I can chew on that side? I have a super high pain threshold btw and have had 2 out of 3 kids natural childbirth on petocin (contraction intensifier) but this is really uncomfortable. Posted by: dagny at December 22, 2011 07:55 AM (1RaCw) If the pain has been getting steadily worse, you may have what's called a "dry socket" or infected bone. A high possibility if you're on birth control and smoke. Get it treated today if you think that's the case or you really won't enjoy the next few days. alternatively, you may have food packed in the hole. Rinse that sucker out. Also, if you're a bad grinder,especially in that area, get a night guard prior to getting an implant and wear it every night or that implant won't live in your mouth very long. YMMV and this is not medical/dental advice. Check with your dentist.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 22, 2011 06:15 AM (XBdI0)

109

 Sounds to me as if the right is in a frothing rage over the mere existence of Ron Paul.

 Yes, some of his olicies are a bit scary.

 The same can be said of Romney, Perry, Gingrich or Bachmann abd Santorum.

 Yes, he has a questionable history, both publicly and privately. Gingrich doesn't? Perry doesn't? Romney? Bachmann? Santorum?

 What happened to "Anyone but Obama!"

 Hobson's choice. Damned if ya do and damned if ya don't.

 We know and say that the RNC and Republicans in D.C. often act as the Stupid Party. But...they wouldn't be there if stupid people like ourselves hadn't put them in place to be and act stupid.

Posted by: Warren Bonesteel at December 22, 2011 06:15 AM (E7Z1r)

110 Warren,  it is one thing to have baggage due to marital history, flips on health care, etc.

It is quite another to have supported Cynthia McKinney in an election, or to promote a dangerous and anti-American foreign and national defense policy.

Plus,  most of Paul's supporters in Iowa are probably democrats playing a "stick it to the GOP game."

I not only think people shouldn't support Paul,  I think he should be thrown out of the party.

Posted by: Miss Marple at December 22, 2011 06:45 AM (GoIUi)

111 Never in the wrong, never in error.

Odd thing about absolutism's reliance on fabrication.

Like "only" inserted into a sentence changes the entire context and premise. Or rewording someone's idea in order to alter what was said in order to feel justified in rejecting wisdom.

Understand yourself. Understand your enemy. Know history. If that is so revolting, or if you really don't care to bother finding out, then admit choosing ignorance as if to preserve bliss.

If there is a constitutional platform basis for a political alliance to achieve the agenda for Constitutional Governance, go figure when the strangest and most despised of public figures agree to support that worthy cause while "honorable" leadership in government hold sustaining the Constitution's supremacy in disdain.

Posted by: Submit to aggression for your own good at December 22, 2011 07:24 AM (lpWVn)

112

The Finnish authorities have impounded an Isle of Man-flagged ship bound for China with undeclared missiles and explosives, officials say.

Police are questioning the crew of the MS Thor Liberty after what were described as 69 Patriot anti-missile missiles were found aboard.

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 22, 2011 07:35 AM (e8kgV)

113

TAYLORSVILLE — A 34-year-old man has been arrested for investigation of multiple counts of sex abuse against a 13-year-old girl.

The four-month relationship was discovered after a bizarre incident at the man's house in which one of his housemates was shot by a third housemate who was reportedly trying to shoot a mouse in his kitchen with a 9mm handgun, according to investigators.

Posted by: Bob Dole at December 22, 2011 08:07 AM (e8kgV)

114 Romney not debating Gingrich deserves own post, with commentary from ace. It gives further credibility to his theory that Romney wants as many alternate candidates in he field as possible, since he can't win a simple majority in a one-on-one match up, he'll aim for a plurality that in winner take all states will give him enough delegates to secure the nomination.

Posted by: Conservative Crank has been pimpin' for Perry since August at December 22, 2011 08:19 AM (1zwZo)

115 Dagny: Fake is right. The pain shd be subsiding and tolerable by now. Call your doctor before the Christmas holiday.

Posted by: mike at December 22, 2011 08:30 AM (0hdwM)

116 117,  nope,  not saying she should hurt worse today, but it's pretty common.  She should expect some pain worse than the immediate aftermath/straight from the dentist,  especially if she wasn't icing that mother down religiously.

Never hurts to bug the dentist, though.  Especially if she is on BCP, smokes, or has used a straw.

Posted by: SarahW at December 22, 2011 08:54 AM (LYwCh)

117 I not only think people shouldn't support Paul,  I think he should be thrown out of the party.

I agree.  Mercifully, with his impending retirement, soon he won't be an issue. 

I think the jury is still out on Rand Paul, btw.  I'm not as enamored of him as some are. 

Posted by: Y-not at December 22, 2011 09:33 AM (5H6zj)

118 The Juice don't like Ron Paul, sounds like to me.

Posted by: Mister Money at December 22, 2011 10:46 AM (wN82N)

Posted by: Dustin at December 22, 2011 10:56 AM (rQ/Ue)

120 What do you mean? This lint in my navel is very important...how did it get there?...see, yo don't know either. Very Important!

Posted by: corsets at December 26, 2011 04:02 PM (Ot7Lz)

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