1 Watch your step because you could step in Yeti crap.

2 Morning Gabe.

Just waiting for the DOOM! thread later.

3 Thar's entahrly too much budget-cuttin' goin' on around heah!

4 Sure am glad I'm living in a Utopia. Those few of us working know it as paradise. and because it is paradise we don't travel, so who cares what gas costs. Obama is truly magnificent

5 Mornin Yall,

Got nothing except this:

Not your daddy's Herb Alpert

6 "It is impossible to imagine a future for Libya with Gadhafi in power."

7

 "It is impossible to imagine a future for Libya with Gadhafi in power."

But we wouldn't dream of, you know, targeting him or anything.  Sure hope that our kinetic air action accomplishes ..... um..... something.

8 When people ask me why I have high blood pressure I say (1) I'm a portly gentleman; stout, even; and (2) I start my weekday mornings with a bowl of headlines and a steaming cup of DOOOOOOM! (Okay, nobody asks me that but that's what I would say if they did.)

9 I see the spam is up early this morning.

10 1 Watch your step because you could step in Yeti crap.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 15, 2011 06:44 AM (yQWNf)

Luckily, Michelle doesn't travel to Nebraska much (or at all) so I should be fine

11 My name is synonymous with conservative winning!

12  "It is impossible to imagine a future for Libya with Gadhafi in power."

"Oh, it was possible six months ago, but now that we've put our asses on the line on this fools errand by throwing in with God Knows Who, well, we've created the political situation where if Khaddafi stays in power, we don't."

13 Palin to address Tea Party's tax day rally in Madison, WIS tomorrow. God Bless the tea partiers. Belly of the Beast, brotha. Anybody going?

14

Moby on hunger strike while hawking a new album?

Doofus, effete hipsters affected most.

 

15 How many morons wrote big* checks to Uncle Socialist this week? My kids and I are eating Friskies the rest of the month so that the AFSCME drones can keep their free Viagra and breast reductions.

I pledge allegiance to the government and the theft for which it stands...

big=more than you can afford

16 you mean people are breathing less right boss....so if we all hold our breath the AGW cult says the polar bear can live right?

17 7 Truck monkey,

there is a parody of "The Red Barry's Flying circus" dying to be made


have him dolled up as a prussian with marx and engels as wingmen?

18 Watch your step because you could step in Yeti crap.

Oh yeah, blame it on the yeti.... six billion humans on the planet, and any primate crap you find on the sidewalk is from a yeti?

19 How many morons wrote big* checks to Uncle Socialist this week?

I did and I am still in a foul mood.

20 12 Nickless,

nah getting rid of K'daffy duck was always fwance's objective.....

K'daffy was about to start selling his oil to china.....Fwance couldn't have that so suddenly 1000 guys became the rebel Alliance and we had another beijing billy Kosovo "GENOCIDE! DAMMIT!" moment where the estimation of killed rebels was only off by a factor of 10,000 this time.....


see had bush only lied about SH having an ongoing genocide I am sure the Code pinkos and ANSWER would have gone into crickets mode like they're doing for red barry's flying circus....

21 19 Vic,

come now Comrade....

worker's paradise requires shared sacrifice.....

you share your money and the wife and i will share these lovely wugu beef sliders the Phillipine cooks make for us.....

"thanks"

22 The "for the first time in my brain-dead life" Moochelle "Move" campaign is an exorbitant attempt to rediscover the wheel at taxpayer expense.  

She must want the old pimp racket video featuring herself and Barry in the crowd to resurface and go viral. Anything for bad ass attention. But as a "Move" campaign video, it's epic fail: the first couple were only schmoozing. Obamaworld: Schmoozing = cardiovascular exercise.

23 all give some, and some like Comrade Sunshine on the links give all...

24 I have not even begun to fight!

25 If you like your ship, you can keep your ship if you don't like your hip.....*glug* glug

//

26 so since George Bush was personally responsible for Katrina....why does barack Obama keep steering Tornados into Oklahoma?

27 Has anyone found the final budget numbers for 2012 that they will be voting on today?  Not the phony 6T number 10 years down the road, the actual numbers for this coming year.

28  Wasn't Califonyia the state that proposed teaching "Ebonics" a few years back?
      jus' axxin'.....

29

Stride the mountaintops and survey the world. But watch your step.

Tell that to the woman in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

30 "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Indoctrination 101 begins in 10 minutes, class!
--
I didn't write a big check.. I got back a refund.. but the bottom line is I still paid waaay too much.. and for what?  And don't even get me started on property taxes.. $5500 last year.. and 65% of that goes to the school district to pay for cushy retirement plans for those idiots that churn out dumber and dumber graduates.

31 Couric: Hi. I'm Diana Christensen, a racist lackey of the imperialist ruling circles.
Obama: I'm Laureen Hobbs, a badass commie ni^g2er.
Couric: Sounds like the basis of a firm friendship.

32 Eggscelent:

US Says Ballistic Missile Defense System Test Successful

WASHINGTON (AFP)--The U.S military has succesfully conducted its "most challenging test to date" of its ballistic missile defense system, officials said Friday.

"Initial indications are that all components performed as designed," said the Missile Defense Agency, or MDA, in a statement describing the procedure over the Pacific Ocean that saw the latest Aegis BMD weapon system successfully intercept an intermediate-range threat missile.

33 32 Kratos,

will it still be excellent when we hand Russia the R+D?

34

Yeah, way more than I could afford in taxes, but on th ebright side, the feds didn't hold all my money this year then give me back some of it, and pretend it was an interest free loan.

 

the fuckers

35 will it still be excellent when we hand Russia the R+D?
Posted by: sven10077
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We have to get the kinks out first.. Barry promised to deliver them the final plans only after thorough testing.

36 --15 Well at least you can get Friskies in different flavors.  My employees get paid every week and they get their health insurance (which is rising like a rocket)  If there are scraps left then I am taxed on that too.  When Obama pontificates about tax increases by calling them expense reductions it is uniquely galling.

37 Oh, and PAWLENTY!!

38 yesterday I learned never to take a link from a website without clicking on he website cause the link they have might not be correct.  But it was a wordpress little blog and then I read that wordpress had been hacked or something so I feel a little better.

39 over at tepid air Poppin' Fresh is saying in the headlines that the GOP on the hill are amazed the bury sandbagged them with his speech.....

yeah guys you and david brooks are the SMART people alright.

40 33 32 Kratos,

will it still be excellent when we hand Russia the R+D?

Oh right, I forgot about that...  damn Obama and the Administration for making a deal where we exchange that kind of sensitive information! 

41

"Initial indications are that all components performed as designed," said the Missile Defense Agency, or MDA, in a statement describing the procedure over the Pacific Ocean that saw the latest Aegis BMD weapon system successfully intercept an intermediate-range threat missile.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at April 15, 2011 08:01 AM (9hSKh)

Eggscelent indeed, I'm sure our Russian partners in defense are eager to get a hold of this technology. Shrillary and Preznit Lemon Squeezer now have another bargaining chip of international diplomacy at their disposal.

  

42 #15  I wrote a big check and mailed it on Saturday.  It had been cashed and cleared the bank Wednesday, three business days.

I figure that the post office has special high-speed trucks where they take checks to the regional center, where IRS clerks working 24/7 rip checks open and send them by high-speed motorcycle messenger to the bank,  where tellers (no doubt paid by federal funds) are waiting to deposit our checks.

Then the money goes into Obama's "stash."

Grrrr.

43 42,

the negotiations go something like this:

Boris: comrade cankles thanks for coming by

Cankles: no problem Boris

Boris: you have technology moose and squirrel make?

Cankles: da

Boris: campaign contribution was best investment we made

44 I've been thinking about how Boehner and, especially, Ryan fell like Barry rickrolled them.  Do you think it will give them more resolve (ok - am I dreaming here?) when dealing with Barry next time?

Inviting Ryan to his speech and giving him a front-row seat so you can mock his plan to the world right in front of his face, seems to me to be beyond the pale. 

45 45 jerry,

the right's idiot leadership caste keeps on convincing themselves they are dealing with a garden variety donk instead of a genuine commie.....

you are not allowed to see his and worf's theses because they are out and out marxist fueled reparations begging pap

46 #45  What we are dealing with here is the same denial I have seen in many conservative columnists.  For how many years have we been reading variations of how Obama is naive, incompetent, surrounded by people who don't have his best interests at heart,  etc?

I am sure Obama was very charming to Ryan when he invited him to come.  probably said something about how "I think you will be interested in what I have to say" or "I am proposing some steps we can take"  or something like that.

Well,  now Ryan is a sadder but wiser person.  As are many of the pundits.

They now see what many of us here have seen.  Obama isn't about to do anything except sow division,  wreck the economy,  mock everyone he doesn't like (a large portion of his fellow citizens), destroy American credibility abroad and act like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

47 I've been thinking about how Boehner and, especially, Ryan fell like Barry rickrolled them.  Do you think it will give them more resolve (ok - am I dreaming here?) when dealing with Barry next time?

If they didn't think Barry was going to do this, they're even stupider than they think we are.

For all Barry's many flaws (and they are myriad), he does grasp that the GOP are not his friends, and that his job is to make them look bad so he can get what he wants.

Soetero also knows that Boehner won't, under any circumstances, shut down the government.  So he's going to push for - and get - everything he wants, with maybe a few meaningless concessions.

48

Fool me one same on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me THREE times...ah fuck it where do we sign to get those cool high speed trains??

 

49 sven & Miss Marple - Yes, you're right.  I've been the one arguing that Boehner merely needs the threat of a shutdown to get meaningful concessions - while still facing the fact we don't have  control of the Senate or the White House.  But it's apparent now we have to just shut it down.  Maybe for an extended period.  And let the debt limit go unchanged.

When will Boehner and Ryan realize this though?

50 Soetero also knows that Boehner won't, under any circumstances, shut down the government.  So he's going to push for - and get - everything he wants, with maybe a few meaningless concessions.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
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Do you still think that?  Of course, this chance has passed.. #sigh#

51 In my efforts to find 2012 numbers I ran across this little gem that is guaranteed to piss you off.  We keep hearing about "mandatory spending" being SS, Medicare, ect; IOW entitlements. We hear that discretionary spending is the only place where they can actually cut.  Well this is absolute horse shit.

Check out this little slight of hand by Obama for the 2012 budget.

Real Smoke and Bullshit

In FY 2012, spending from the Economic Stimulus Package was moved to Mandatory spending, which is the budget category for spending that is mandated by law. This spending included a surplus of $73 billion from banks for the TARP program, $12 billion in tax cuts and $12 billion in jobs initiatives.(Source: OMB, FY 2011 Budget, Table S-1 and S-4)

So they intended to enshrine porkulous into the permanent mandatory budget.

Q: Will the Republican Budget for 2012 undo this bullshit?

52 52 Vic,

one nice byproduct of Jugears not taking his opportunity for a suckerpunch is Boner will go after Tarp's unused funds with a vengence....and chiJesus doesn't get that that 100 bill or so is very low hanging fruit nobody will argue to keep.....

Boner will get probably 145-250 billion minimum.

53 Don't be fooled by the small numbers in that statement. They parse it with "included" meaning that this is not all that  got moved. About.com is a liberal org.

54 Miss Marple

Paul Ryan would presume that Obama would treat him better than Obama treated the SCOTUS during the SOTU.

55 Threaten a shut-down in this economy's all-or-nothing poker game.

When will Boehner and Ryan realize this though?

When voters strongly support Rand Paul's economic efforts.

56 Do you still think that?  Of course, this chance has passed.. #sigh#

If past performance is any judge, yes.  Boehner is terrified of being Newt Gingrich and causing a shutdown and 'losing', because he believes that Republicans can't win that fight.  Better to just not make waves.

As a result, he is worse than Newt Gingrich - he's a milquetoast who is stamping some awful budgets with the GOP seal.  It will come back to bite us in the ass.

57 Well, about par for the course. The House will vote on a 2012 budget bill for today and nowhere is any kind of a net spending listed that I can find.

One wonders, is this a conscious effort to hide the numbers by the government or is it just a shitty press?

58 "If you want contrived, watch CSPAN" - Rick Santelli, CNBC

59 One other thing I should point out. IN my research I found a number of news articles about "discretionary spending" for 2006, 2007 etc where the administration says yes, we will freeze spending and limit it so that the deficit will shrink as the years go buy.

And yet spending went up every damn year. A "promise" to cut spending "next year" is totally worthless. It is the political version of "check's in the mail, I'll call you tommorow, I won't ..." (you get the picture).

60 So, that mythical Unicorn all the cool kids are talking about is actually a mythical Bigfoot with a stiffy?

61 Posted by: Vic at April 15, 2011 08:38 AM (M9Ie6)

So they raised the debt ceiling already?

It's so odd they are going on another two week vacation,  it almost seems like there are more vacations than work days and the vacations are designed to make sure voting is always rushed.

62 So they raised the debt ceiling already?

They haven't even started talking about that one yet. The original schedule that they talked about had that coming before the 2012 budget. I suspect that DeMint's threat to filibuster it has them recalculating.

LOL, a filibuster is the same as "no raise".

63 can you predict the outcome based on this article?

64 We are going to have to pass the 2012 budget to find out what's in it.

65 Anyone read the story about the Detroit swat teams 10 hour standoff with the Mom who did not want to keep medicating her daughter.
They say she shot a gun in the apartment, which if true is a no no, but they feel the need to bring out a tank for this?
Oh and after its over and they lie to her about where the daughter will be going the officials say the daughter doesn't need those meds right now after all.
Wow

66 I had $15,000 stolen from me in "taxes". Most of that was due to a $40,000 severance pay when my former employer closed a factory. Far as I'm concerned the Federal government is just a bunch of thieving bastards. I look forward to the day when whole cesspool gets flushed down the toilet. I owe no allegience to this government. The more people that realize it has turned into nothing more than a criminal enterprise the better.

67 Anyone read the story about the Detroit swat teams 10 hour standoff with the Mom who did not want to keep medicating her daughter.
They say she shot a gun in the apartment, which if true is a no no, but they feel the need to bring out a tank for this?
Oh and after its over and they lie to her about where the daughter will be going the officials say the daughter doesn't need those meds right now after all.
Wow

Posted by: MarkC at April 15, 2011 08:51 AM (yPPVC)

I read that last night.  Bizarre story. 

68 From the Fox story on the upcoming bill we learn by reading between the lines that this budget bill is a non-binding meaningless POS anyway.

69

WASHINGTON – Twenty-two Senate Democrats are pressuring President Barack Obama to delay deportations of certain young immigrants in the U.S. illegally.

The senators ask in a letter for deferrals of any deportations of the young immigrants brought to the U.S. by parents who arrived or stayed illegally.

The senators also suggest smaller steps the president can take to help the young immigrants, such as making sure they know they can request deportation delays.

In the letter sent Wednesday, the senators acknowledge that Obama must enforce the law but say exercising prosecutorial discretion has a long history in the U.S. and is consistent with the rule of law.

 

So he must enforce the law by ignoring it

70 I read that last night.  Bizarre story.

Forget it Tami, its Detroittown.

71

So I've been watching more and more of these Rand Paul videos lately and I have to say that I really like what I've seen. Funniest thing is that the establishment thought they were getting rid of a problem in Jim Bunning and that they would replace him with a McConnell toady. Instead, the Kentucky voters gave them their worst nightmare: a younger guy who is just as conservative as Bunning but more charismatic, who's able to ask common sense questions about stupid policies without sounding angry, and who doesn't give a damn about the establishment GOP.

I wish he were more experienced because I would have loved to have seen him in the presidential mix.

72 I voted all I voted all for you For what I hoped you'd do But you were yellow... No Action or Coldplay Serves Fans In Similar Manner That Republican Leadership Serves Supporters

73 Is Boehner crazy like a fox?  As a result of the 2011 deal and the 2012 budget first draft we will be rolling into fall 2012 right when people start to pay attention to the candidates with at least 16 trillion in debt.  So does the elephant party have a grand master plan to blame Mugabe for adding 6 trillion to our debt load?

Not likely. Boehner is drain bamaged and needs to resign.

74

Paul Ryan has a brilliant op-ed in the WaPo this morning that absolutely rips Obama a new asshole..  Lefty morons are already choking the comments page with their Axelrod-approved talking points. 

Here is the best part, driving home the fact that liberals are still living in cloud-cuckoo-land when it comes to medicare:

If you are someone who agrees with the president that we cannot avoid this outcome without resorting to large tax increases, know this: No amount of taxes can keep pace with the amount of money government is projected to spend on health care in the coming years. Medicare and Medicaid are growing twice as fast as the economy — and taxes cannot rise that fast without a devastating impact on jobs and growth.

If you believe that spending on these programs can be controlled by restricting what doctors and hospitals are paid, know this: Medicare is on track to pay doctors less than Medicaid pays, and Medicaid already pays so little that many doctors refuse to see Medicaid patients. These arbitrary cuts not only fail to control costs, they also leave our most vulnerable citizens with fewer health-care choices and reduced access to care.

And if you believe that we must eliminate waste, fraud and abuse in these programs, know this: Eliminating inefficient spending is critical, but the only way to do so is to reward providers who deliver high-quality, low-cost health care, while punishing those who donÂ’t. Time and again, the federal government has proved incapable of doing that.

Medicare is projected to go bankrupt in just nine years unless we act to curb the relentlessly rising cost of health care. This cannot be done with across-the-board cuts in Washington. It has to be done by giving seniors the tools to fight back against skyrocketing costs. ThatÂ’s why our budget saves Medicare by using competition to weed out inefficient providers, improve the quality of health care for seniors and drive costs down.

75

It's so odd they are going on another two week vacation,  it almost seems like there are more vacations than work days and the vacations are designed to make sure voting is always rushed.

I wish they would go on vacation more often. I'm happy to pay them to stay the hell away from Washington and I wouldn't mind seeing the legislative session reduced to only six months over two years.

76

Hey Jerry, if you want a shutdown, you are going to have to do it without any help from your elected eunuchs in DC.  They're not on your side, you know? For Speaker Boned and minions, a shutdown is a disaster that is to be avoided at all costs.

Like Monty Lord of DOOm says, the guys who took you here aren't going to lead you out. Getting out is on you.  Anyone going to tea party rallies today or tomorrow?

77 Forget shutting down government--we have no influence over government. I think it's time to start thinking about shutting down the country. We can damn sure do that.

78 Posted by: rockmom at April 15, 2011 09:03 AM (Y01Pi)
Know this:  we will fight you to the last comrade to ensure the delivery of the United States into either the caliphate, or into a democratic socialist form of government.  Since control of the medical establishment is a key tool in determining the survival set, we must have single payer health care with a benevolent cost control via medical experts that will decide the cost benefit relationship of your treatment and value to the commune.

79 Posted by: Vic at April 15, 2011 08:38 AM (M9Ie6)


I posted this yesterday, but I think it needs seen by more: (IMHO)

Check out Cavuto's take on all the budgets released so far.


'We aren't talking about cutting the debt, we are talking about cutting the GROWTH in the debt'.


'My 10 year fitness plan: I will keep my weight gain to 10lbs per year rather than the 15lbs I've been averaging.'

80

Morning, all.  I have been laid up the last couple of days with some kind of miserable chest cold and now sound like a frog that's swallowed a yard of rusty barbed wire.  I am unhappy.

Anyway.

Isn't Jordan supposed to be one of the moderately less loony Islamic nations?

"Jordan to Try Danish Cartoonist" (Daily Telegraph, Australia)

A JORDANIAN court will try Danish cartoonist Kurt Westergaard over a controversial caricature of the Muslim Prophet Mohammed.

Zakarya Sheikh, spokesman for a group of local media outlets that sued Westergaard in 2008 for depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban, said the artist and others have been summoned by a magistrates' court in Amman to stand trial on April 25.

The subpoena states Westergaard "is accused of the crime of blasphemy..."

h/t Blazing Cat Fur

81 Oh and after its over and they lie to her about where the daughter will be going the officials say the daughter doesn't need those meds right now after all.
Wow

Posted by: MarkC at April 15, 2011 08:51 AM (yPPVC)

The courts made it clear that the government can enslave you to the medical system via your children years ago.  If they say you have to get your kid a certain treatment, then your choice is to do it, or wait for them to force you (which they will).  Once again, the courts "know better" and are going to have their way.  It doesn't matter if your kid is terminal and the "treatment" will do nothing more than subject him to agony and suffering while prolonging his so-called life for another week or two.  Those damn ghouls will do it, and they'll sleep just fine at night (like all f**king do-gooders). 

Should America ever be blessed with the sweet release of a rightist putsch, I hope the hordes of corrupt, arrogant judges are among the first to be fed into the liquidation machine.  It would be a glorious day.

 

82

Stop complaining about writing tax checks! After all, taxes are the only thing that keep us from being Somalia.

 

83 I like the headline comment about the two Obamas - partisan campaigner vs dignified president. Seriously? He cannot pull off "dignified" no matter how much the press tries and tries. I can see two personas tho - Whiny Bitch and Whinier Bitch

84 I'm thinking about what that shitstain, Princess Barack, said about the GOP wanting to turn the USA into third-world country. Looking past the nerve of that cocksucker's projection for a moment, I wanted to say something that everyone probably knows but if even one person here hasn't considered this yet, it's worth saying: Squalor, poverty, shitty infrastructure, and all the other crap that pops in our heads when we hear "third world" is not a resource problem--it's a fucking character problem.

85 13 Palin to address Tea Party's tax day rally in Madison, WIS tomorrow. God Bless the tea partiers. Belly of the Beast, brotha. Anybody going?

Posted by: snort! at April 15, 2011 07:25 AM (BZEkR)

I'll be there, camera buzzin'

86 87 front Towards left,

and I am looking square at detroit when I read that....

87 Records Released of ‘Everyone’ Who’s Come Through the White House Doors? Not Quite, Says Watchdog Group(CNS News)

Carney was asked Thursday how this squared with ObamaÂ’s pledge to be the most transparent president ever.

“The president has made extraordinary efforts to demonstrate the transparency he thinks is vitally important,” Carney replied. “What I would note about the fact that we released records that have never been released before is that the system – the WAVES system, from which these releases are drawn – is not designed for public release. They are designed for security reasons.”

Carney declined to comment directly on the report, only on the visitor log system.

“The fact they are incomplete is not an effort to withhold information,” Carney said. “We release the information that we have in ways that have never been done before by any administration of any party. And we continue to work on ways to enhance transparency.”

“The ‘event’ description in the logs is blank for more than 205,000 visits, including many that involved small meetings with the president and his key aides.”

“Five junior staff aides together received more than 4,440 visits. By contrast, then chief of staff Rahm Emanuel, famed for his workaholic schedule, is listed for less than 500 visits.”

“Less than 1 percent of the estimated 500,000 visits to the White House in Obama’s first eight months – a time when the new administration was bustling with activity – have been disclosed, according to the Center’s analysis.”

88 This cannot be done with across-the-board cuts in Washington. It has to be done by giving seniors the tools to fight back against skyrocketing costs. ThatÂ’s why our budget saves Medicare by using competition to weed out inefficient providers, improve the quality of health care for seniors and drive costs down.

Posted by: rockmom at April 15, 2011 09:03 AM (Y01Pi)

This is true, and sounds good.  But the key thing left out (by necessity, of course) is the fact that not everybody can have all the health care they want.  Can't be done.  There's only so much to go around, and the only reasonable way to figure out who gets what is to let the market work.  Sadly, this means the wealthy will get more, and the poor will get less, and maybe little.  Rationing health care will happen, because we can't spend 10 million bucks to extend the life of every geriatric patient an extra few months.  The only question is how.  I DO NOT trust the government to decide, since it will sacrifice me to pay for layabout scum.  I'd rather that I die while watching a rich person buy drugs I can't afford, than to die watching some welfare rat be given those drugs at my expense. 

People need to learn that there's a limit to how much can be spent to give them an extra little span to sit around and worry about their impending death.  I say, let the private system work and be done with it.  Cut back the give aways to what little we can afford, and let nature take its course.  Our pity and do-gooding has gotten us into this mess.  Time to put that folly aside.

89 The House is voting on alternative budgets, currently the Congressional Black Caucus budget. Per C-SPAN, they should be finished with the R 2012 budget by 2pm.

90 ‘You Think We Are Stupid’: Obama’s Hot Mic Tough Talk on Planned Parenthood & Health Care
Morning Joe crew thinks it is so cool!  They also have to state, 'No.  We don't mean this as a gotcha moment!' 'I love it!'

91 92 Miss80sBaby,

you know on a lark we should bleed as many GOP votes as we can over onto the CBC's budget without passing it just for the theatrics....

92 93 Momma,

as opposed to Reagan's hot mike moment making them soil themselves.

93 Uncle Sam wrote me a check but of course I loaned him that money with no interest. And the only reason I received some of that loan back was because I was able to list my mortgage interest as a deduction. Something Obama's commission and a good number of conservatives recommend we eliminate. Talk about a trigger for a middle class riot.

94 Another example of an 'united front' - the press and Odogma:

Interview with snuffleupagus:

Obama Takes on Birthers: I Was Born in U.SÂ…And I DonÂ’t Have Horns (The Blaze)
and

CNN: Explain it to me Birthers!

95 Forget shutting down government--we have no influence over government. I think it's time to start thinking about shutting down the country. We can damn sure do that. Posted by: Bugler at April 15, 2011 09:08 AM (VXBR1) Yep, if 10 million working Americans simultaneously took a month off, they'd pay attention. This will happen. It is a stage of collapse: general strike.

96 96 Polynikes,

couple that with eliminating the state income tax deduction and you have the makings for a massive exodus from the blue states.

97 94 92 Miss80sBaby,

you know on a lark we should bleed as many GOP votes as we can over onto the CBC's budget without passing it just for the theatrics....

So far, it only got 1R vote, though I'm surprised it even got that much. Whether their budget is better than the Progressive Budget would be interesting to know. But it is interesting that they do take their time to vote on all these alternative budgets that won't pass. The only one of them that's worthwhile is the RSC alternative budget because they can cut as much as they want as fast as they want without the leadership or conference intervening.

98 "and I am looking square at detroit when I read that...." True, but I'm going to tell a story that removes race from the equation just for the hell of it: In the late '90s (maybe 2000--I don't remember), I did some work on a system implementation for Union Fidelity Life Insurance Company. They had been bought by GE, and GE sent a number of their shake-and-bake management trainees in there as an occupying force. I had to visit one of their facilities in Bensalem, PA, a couple of times. The facility was a cubical farm on what looked to be a converted warehouse. Visitors had to sign-in at a security desk and be escorted while on site. The entire building was all UFLIC, and I think there might even have been a gated fence around the parking lot. My point is this: The building was populated by UFLIC employees. It was a typical office environment with white collars, white, and medium to high middle-class compensation. Their men's rooms looked about as bad as public restrooms in a bus terminal: Unflushed toilets, spatter and puddles from bad aim, trash and water on the floor, and broken (but very new) stall hardware. WTF? They had janitors who cleaned the restrooms, but they would turn to shit again pretty quickly.

99 100 Miss80sbaby,

you can compare how seriously Boner takes the alternative budgets to Frau Botox's antics as well.....

Boner runs a moral ship....sometimes to our detriment.

100 Obama now dumping on Paul Ryan at private fundraisers

“When Paul Ryan says his priority is to make sure, he’s just being America’s accountant … This is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for, voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for,” Mr. Obama told his supporters. “So it’s not on the level.”

101 Congressman. Antiwar activist. Vegan. Dennis Kucinich wears a lot of hats. And here's one more résumé item to add to the list:
Ventriloquist.

Which one is the dummy ?

102 Uncle Sam wrote me a check but of course I loaned him that money with no interest. And the only reason I received some of that loan back was because I was able to list my mortgage interest as a deduction. Something Obama's commission and a good number of conservatives recommend we eliminate. Talk about a trigger for a middle class riot.

Posted by: polynikes at April 15, 2011 09:32 AM (7sQ6G)

Yup.  The mortgage interest deduction is not a bad thing.  It didn't cause the housing bubble, and was functioning just fine for a long time.  Home ownership does have intrinsic social value.  Few people can pay cash for their home, so easing the mortgage burden encourages buying.  In any case, the fact is that if that deduction were elminated, housing would take another massive leg down, and rent costs would likely climb as demand rose.  More misery would be the result, as owners lose equity and renters lose disposable income.  Plus, of course, there would be the rage of those who got shafted - lots of middle class home owners.  Killing that deduction would kill the party dumb enough to do it.  Phasing it out might work, but even that would be somewhat unpopular and would still have a negative effect on the real estate market at a time when we don't need that.  If we must phase it out, do so when we have a recovery.

103 101 FTL,

what's race got to do with the rot that destroyed Detroit over the last thirty years....

that was a truly racially harmonious boning my friend.....

You had entrenched union interests coupled with a plantation mentality in voting blocs amongst the 'disadvantaged' that allowed the donk machine politicians to go Attila the Hun on all the wealth potential of that communi-tay

if you like what lockstep donk rule for 30+ years has done for Dayton Ohio, Detroit michigan, Philly PA, etc etc you're gonna love what the donks have in store for the nation at large.

104 102 100 Miss80sbaby,

you can compare how seriously Boner takes the alternative budgets to Frau Botox's antics as well.....

Boner runs a moral ship....sometimes to our detriment.


I agree.

105 “When Paul Ryan says his priority is to make sure, he’s just being America’s accountant … This is the same guy that voted for two wars that were unpaid for, voted for the Bush tax cuts that were unpaid for, voted for the prescription drug bill that cost as much as my health care bill — but wasn’t paid for,” Mr. Obama told his supporters. “So it’s not on the level.”

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 15, 2011 09:38 AM (uVLrI)

I'm speechless......unbelievable.

106 103 Miss80sbaby,

did anyone have the balls to ask Ogabe why we aren't out of Iraq or 'ghani and he has added the billion buck a week Red Barry's AQ Libya Air farce to the mix?


//rhetorical

107 My point about the birth certificate is not political as it is historical. We have a great tradition in this country about collecting information about our history and the people who are a significant part of it. We collect the most minutiae of info and store it in various archives. That no one can tell me what Hospital our 44th President was born in because he won't release a piece of paper is against all that is American and should not stand for the historic reasons I stated. He'll we have the fucking log cabin was born in. At least I think it's still on display at FDR home.

108 In his fundraising opener, Obama endorses 'a caring America' Starting his reelection fundraising drive in Chicago, President Obama draws a sharp distinction between his vision and the alternative Republicans are putting forth, which he says suggests 'we can't afford to be compassionate.'

109 Boehner officially Obama's bitch:

Thinking reporters were out of the room, President Obama opened up Thursday night about the recent budget talks with Republicans and what he called their efforts to sneak in attacks on Planned Parenthood and his health care bill.

"I said (to Republicans), 'you want to repeal health care? Go at it,'" Obama told backers in a private meeting with an open microphone. "'We'll have that debate. You're not going to be able to do that by nickel-and-diming me in the budget.'"

He said he added: "'You think we're stupid?'"

Obama took questions from political donors after a press pool had been dismissed. But a microphone remained on, and Mark Knoller of CBS News took notes.

In what amounted to his most extended remarks on talks with House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, and others, Obama said he protested GOP efforts to add items to the budget bill under discussion.

That included efforts to cut federal funding for Planned Parenthood.

"Put it in a separate bill," Obama said he told Boehner and his staff. "We'll call it up. And if you think you can overturn my veto, try it. But don't try to sneak this through."

USAToday

110 Of course that was supposed to be Log cabin Lincoln was born in.

111 Yep, if 10 million working Americans simultaneously took a month off, they'd pay attention.

This will happen.

It is a stage of collapse: general strike.

Posted by: Mr. Ed at April 15, 2011 09:33 AM (dT+/n)

I don't know about you, but I have bills.  I'm not going on general strike unless things get a LOT worse.  Nor is anybody else I know who is gratefully clinging to his job.  Now, once I'm unemployed I'll be all for making a ruckus.  Not much to lose then.

And if this happened, what would it accomplish?  Do you think the modern socialist state will just lie down and die?  That one of the two parties would get religion and get to fixing things, and without fierce opposition from the status-quo crowd?  Cuz I've never known civic temper tantrums to get that result.

Now, if an organized resistance movement with competent leadership and a sensible agenda popped up, we'd have a different story.  That's something a man can get behind.  It offers an alternative.  But telling the same goons in power to "Do Something Else!" isn't going to make much long term difference.  And sadly the Right in this country is so badly organized it's laughable.

112 If Obama was actually presidential, he'd be attacking the Budget Committee's budget instead of Paul Ryan. But he's a punk, so he's going to attack people instead of ideas. It also shows he has nothing except old cliches.

But it appears his attacks have only strengthened the people on the Budget Committee. I watched some of the exchanges during debate last night and none of them were willing to grant an inch to the Dems. Good for them.

113 I'm speechless......unbelievable. Posted by: Tami at April 15, 2011 09:42 AM (VuLos) Ebola: The Abyss in human form.

114 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 15, 2011 09:36 AM (uVLrI)

Did you see #82?  Is what Cavuto said true?

Is the main point of all these budgets no to cut out a lot of the debt, but to cut into the GROWTH in the debt?

115 Posted by: Reactionary at April 15, 2011 09:48 AM (xUM1Q) As I said, it is a stage of collapse.

116 Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 15, 2011 09:45 AM (UB58p)

Here's video of it:

‘You Think We Are Stupid’: Obama’s Hot Mic Tough Talk on Planned Parenthood & Health Care (The Blaze)

Morning Joe crew thinks it is so cool!  They also have to state, 'No.  We don't mean this as a gotcha moment!' 'I love it!'

117 More from the Campaigner-in-Chief:

“Under their vision, we can’t invest in roads and bridges and broadband and high-speed rail. We would be a nation of potholes and our airports would be worse than places that we used to call the Third World but that are now investing in infrastructure.”

118 If Obama was actually presidential, he'd be




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119 120 Momma,

everybody's favorite deomcrat Joe Scabborough

120 By all means, please keep the border open:

Illegal immigrant arrested in brutal Va. stabbing

121 The Democrats are cranking up their usual fear campaign. You can't stop trillion. It's fully armored, very tough and it won't stop, ever, until you are broke.

122 117 Did you see #82?  Is what Cavuto said true?

Is the main point of all these budgets no to cut out a lot of the debt, but to cut into the GROWTH in the debt?

He's saying the budget window means that not all the cuts are instantaneous, which is one of the reasons why these budgets are only cutting into growth of debt. The Republican Budget would cut the debt, but over a longer period of time if x, y, and z were enacted. They'd have to cut in the tens of trillions and faster to do better, but the difficulty is that there aren't the votes for it. As it is, some of these Rs are fearful about supporting Ryan's budget.

123

Mmm. One hell of a storm rolled through here a few hours ago. "Continuous cloud to ground lightning", the weather radio called it. Killed a couple people in Arkansas.

124 The House is voting on alternative budgets, currently the Congressional Black Caucus budget.

probably another 1T for the Pigford scam which the Republicans will not have the balls to fight.

125 @106 sven10077 Whoa. I'm sorry. I did not in any way mean to imply that you were racist. Race was a huge factor in taking Detroit from where it was to where it is today. Coleman Young put that slide into overdrive, and he won the mayor's office and held it for almost 20 years on a platform of racist demonization of white people.

126 More from the Campaigner-in-Chief:

“Under their vision, we can’t invest in roads and bridges and broadband and high-speed rail. We would be a nation of potholes and our airports would be worse than places that we used to call the Third World but that are now investing in infrastructure.”
Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 15, 2011 09:53 AM (uVLrI)


It is actually worse than that.  He has fully embraced the socialist rhetoric.  He isn't hiding it anymore:

"I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper" — and added an allusion to the contemporary budget struggles consuming Washington. Prosperous Americans should be willing to pay a little more in taxes, he said, to help those who are struggling.

"We're individuals," said Obama, who is pressing for an increase in taxes for wealthy Americans. "But we also have this idea that we're all in this together Â… and that I'm looking after them, not out of charity, but because my life is richer, my life is better when the people around me are happy and the people around me have a shot at the American dream."

127 My response to Obama is that you and the Left have been using the Republicans want to kill grandma and chilren rhetoric forever and it has been shown to be the worst of lies. These things didn't happen when you said it about Reagan. It didn't happen when A republican Congress passed welfare reform. It didn't happen when you said it about both Bushes. I'll tell you when it did happen. It happened when the The Left embraced LBJs war on poverty and turned Democrat run cities into ghettos and brke up the black family and it's happening again when the Democrat congress didn't listen to the warnings by the Republicans about Fannie and Freddie. And you are doubling down on this same stupidity while spewing damnable lies.

128 130 probably another 1T for the Pigford scam which the Republicans will not have the balls to fight.

It failed miserably.

129

Do we really need to piss away billions of dollars in broadband? I mean, is interent availability really a problem?

Well, for people who choose to live in remote locations...which would be their choice, one would think.

Fires in West Texas knocked out power, including to radio towers, so my mom couldn't find out what was going on. Except by phone to me. So obviously we should spend billions so that people can live in crazy places and not depend on family.

130 WTF?  The NY Times doesn't have ONE word about me in today's paper.  Don't they know about the inhuman treatment I am receiving her in the Durham jail? And the murder of my boyfriend at the Duke hospital by those RACIST Duke doctors?

Where is Nancy Grace when I need her?

131 Moma, I saw that Cavuto thing yesterday. Yes no actual cuts. And not only that, as I posted earlier, even this "proposed budget" appears to only promise to cut "down the road".  Something that NEVER happens.

And I can't find a single damn thing anywhere that lists the actual proposed 2012 numbers. Everyone gives the phony ten year number.

But also, as stated in an earlier article and post, these budgets are non-binding guidelines anyway. It is ALL kabuki theater. I am about to just give up and lay in more ammunition and foods stuffs.

Also, may need to look at a major withdrawel of assets from BOA and buy some land up in the mountains and an ATV to get there. Build me a Daniel Boone cabin.

It looks like I will not have to worry about funding retirement for as long as I thought.

132 Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at April 15, 2011 09:59 AM (uVLrI)


So, in these budgets (I'm a moron when it comes to this stuff)  most of these spending cuts are years down the road and there is no guarantee that the next set of Congressdicks/Administrations will follow these. Correct?

Sort of like saying in my family's budget I will cut $100 of my food allowance every year, but since my hubby takes over budget in three years, he isn't held to my pledge.

Am I way off base, or at least in the ballpark?

Thanks in advance!

133

"I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper"

LOL, I had not read that when I posted.

134 Oops, sock off. Went for walk and forgot sock.

135 138 Momma,

oh it's even worse than that.....

they can pass spending this year through CRs....Jugears can juggle fundsallocated to DoD quite nimbly if he follows Clinton's lead back in the '90s....

did you know the stealth bomber was such a great weapons' system it funded midnight basketball?

136 "I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper" He's too damned heavy, and he's NOT my brother.

137 139 Mama AJ,

it is best translated as "I am to keep my brothers and sisters in their place....now Michelle pass me a wugu slider"

138 Sort of like saying in my family's budget I will cut $100 of my food allowance every year, but since my hubby takes over budget in three years, he isn't held to my pledge.

Actually it is worse than that. It is like saying in Dec here is our plan; I will limit my increase in food spending to +10% of last year. I will also limit my spending on other things by 10% increase.

Then in January you actually start withdrawing money from the bank to spend on those items. All it takes is an OK from hubby on how much money you will withdraw each month with Dec long forgotten.

139

 pass me a wugu slider

Is that what the kids are call--oh, never mind, I don't want to know.

 

140 137 Moma, I saw that Cavuto thing yesterday. Yes no actual cuts. And not only that, as I posted earlier, even this "proposed budget" appears to only promise to cut "down the road".  Something that NEVER happens.

And I can't find a single damn thing anywhere that lists the actual proposed 2012 numbers. Everyone gives the phony ten year number.

Both H.Con.Res.34 and The Path to Prosperity have the tables of the cuts / amounts to be appropriated per year. A majority of the cuts come from mandatory spending, but that doesn't prevent them from being real. As for them all not being made automatically, the budget window is 10yrs. That's always been a flaw that they don't budget in shorter windows, as it doesn't factor-in changes in both the legislative and executive, but it's the way things work up there.

141 Thanks M80B, Sven, Vic!

Now that *I think* I understand it a little more clearly, I really, really, wish I didn't

How is it possible that we are arguing over 'cuts' and 'changes' that aren't a guarantee?

How about a 10% cut (or whatever) across the board, independent audits of all Fed. Departments (not the word I want but anyway - EPA, Dep. of Ed, etc.),

No more slush funds, no more art grants, no more $ going to any terrorist state, etc.

142

Again, I just don't get where the big need to spend billions of dollars on broadband is something the government needs to worry about.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at April 15, 2011 10:13 AM (OWjjx)

It is just a Dem's way of buying votes.

143

Obama: The Republicans Want To Turn America Into A Third World Nation

My G-d, this turd has chutzpah. The self-styled Avenging Angel of the Third World who looks to do nothing but destroy this nation now spends his time telling actual Americans what America is all about (*spit*) and now he's accusing the GOP of wanting to turn the US into a third world shithole, just like his home country of Indonesia. Unbelievable. If America doesn't impeach and try this piece of shit, then we deserve the shit we get.

144 MWR

glad you're on the mend

145

 Yes, there are probably a few very remote pockets of the country where cable service is not available.

I can't remember about cable, because they don't have a tv, but they don't have cell phone service, sat. doesn't work on the wrong side of mountains, etc. etc.

But again, choice. When you choose to live where the nearest big city is Midland and it's over 3 hours away...

I'm working on convincing her a pay as you go smart phone is the best option. At this point in time, it wouldn't work at the house, but would half way down the mountain and I think ATT is much more likely to build another tower than to lay cable for DSL. "One word, Mom: wireless."

She'll get wireless this and that next year and the gov't will spend millions to get cables put in by 2017.

 

146 People who live in remote locations can always get broadband via satellite. It is not as fast as cable but it is comparable to DSL.

147 149 How is it possible that we are arguing over 'cuts' and 'changes' that aren't a guarantee?

Congressional budget rules require a 10yr budget. A few lone lawmakers have tried to change this but that's just the way it is. So they have to set appropriation levels for every year while assuming that all their reforms are enacted. Heritage says that Ryan's budget indeed works, which is the good news; the bad news is that the legislative and executive can change in the meantime.

How about a 10% cut (or whatever) across the board, independent audits of all Fed. Departments (not the word I want but anyway - EPA, Dep. of Ed, etc.)...

It depends on your budgeting philosophy. Some individuals believe that, since departments receive different levels of funding, you need to bring them down to across-the-board. Others say just cut them across-the-board because it forces more prioritization. So it depends on your POV.

148

I would add, the Indonesian Imbecile feels free to project on the GOP because the GOP is full of nbothing but pussies who were always to scared to explicitly state what an America-hating, INELIGIBLE, third world retard Obama is.  That is all nothing but the truth, but since GOPers are scared to state the truth, the Indonesian Imbecile feels free to cast these projective accusations on them.

When will they learn?

.... never.

149 UN*FUCKING*REAL:

At a fundraiser yesterday BO said this:

In response to another question, he used ThursdayÂ’s visit to the White House by the emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, to make a point about the need for good job opportunities.

“I had the emir of Qatar come by the Oval Office today,” Obama said. “Pretty influential guy. He is a big booster, big promoter of democracy all throughout the Middle East. Reform, reform, reform. ... Now he himself is not reforming significantly. There’s no big move toward democracy in Qatar. But you know part of the reason is that the per capita income of Qatar is $145,000 a year. That will dampen a lot of conflict.

“I make this point only because if there is opportunity, if people feel their lives can get better, then a lot of these problems get solved.”

150

Someone added "Salafi" and "Salafist" to the media style guide last week.  Now it's acceptable to discuss strict Muslims as Salafist. 

It is so Orwellian when the entire media breaks out a formerly not-PC concept -- the notion too much traditional (Seventh Century) Islam can be a bad thing.  Who gatekeeps the gatekeepers?  Someone does obviously. 

Yet another area in which we're boned, doomed, in some pretty shit now, and put her in charge, man.    

151 10:19 HHH-'H'

"We" do not deserve the shit being shoveled down our throats by our entire federal authoritarian government.

If our elected officials fail to impeach and justly try this piece of shit, then THEY deserve the shit.

"We" are entitled to vote, demand and require the federal authoritarians to comply to the US Constitution the pre-empts subsequent "precedence".

It isn't as if Rand Paul isn't already organizing grassroots to effectively reinstate US Constitutional Governance.

"Experience?" A fool will learn by no other. An "experienced" politician is generally corrupt.

Had David been dissuaded by his brothers and by King Saul who warned David to go skulk home rather than stand to fight because David was young and lacked experience killing humans, David wouldn't have taken down and decapitated Goliath that in turn bolstered his army to attack, pursue and defeat the uncircumcized Philistine army of military interventionists who invaded David's homeland and ridiculed David's almighty God. David championed his God against all odds and took hold of his opportunity to confront the invasion on his own terms, without accepting the cowardly King Saul's advise, armor and sword.

Grassroots. Hand to hand. Mano a mano, Deserve's got nothing to do with it.

152

Posted by: by any other name at April 15, 2011 10:56 AM (H+LJc)

I hear you.  And I certainly don't deserve the Indonesian .... but when you have a retarded un-American shithead who everyone is scared to describe truthfully, and then that traitorous third worlder starts accusing us of everything that he is .... then no one can plead ignorance or anything of the sort.  It was imperative that the GOP describe the Indonesian Imbecile as what he is, from the beginning, but since they wouldn't (and that includes Rand Paul) they have opened us all up to this total insanity and coming destruction.  Shit, none of them will even talk about what a total retard the guy is.  They keep treating his words as if they're coming from a sentient being ... still!  to this day.

153 Our new century begins with a decade of firsts.  Obama replaces Carter and worst preznit in history.  Boehner replaces Gingrich as worst Republican house majority leader and the way things are going the Republicans will probably elect someone who will eclipse Nixon.

154 "From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."

Romney and Obama

"Promise anything," Romney and Obama 2008 campaigns. 

Note the grotesque parallels between the elitists Romney and Obama, aside from ancestral polygamous communism. Neither has a family heritage of serving our country in our Military.

Historically, Romney is a direct descendant of no one who has ever served in the US Military, not even in the Mormon Battalion though living in Utah, twenty years before escaping the US law by colonizing Mexico. Residing in Mexico since 1885, the Romney's failed to side with the US during the Mexican American War, and didn't leave Mexico until threatened by the Mexican Revolution when they fled back to the US. Even then, Mitt Romney's family left the US returning to their Mexican Mormon colony.

Forbes 4-12-11 "Romney to Trump" by Freedman:
While some opponents nicknamed him “Chihuahua George,” his suitability for the highest office because of his birth was never seriously challenged. The reason his campaign faltered was because of his shift in position on the Vietnam War: He went from being a supporter to opposing it, infamously claiming to have been “brainwashed” by military officials.

On Mitt's evasion of military service:
"I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam." WTF! This is the rhetoric you'll be hearing ad nauseum from Romney without any help from Bill Ayers.

Mitt Romney can't claim to be a conscientious objector, only an opportunistic draft dodger who would later paint himself as if a patriotic youth who longed in many respects to actually be representing our country by actually going to Vietnam. It was unfair that Mitt should suffer frustration for not feeling like he was part of those troops suffering through guerrilla warfare in Vietnam. Please think of Mitt as a Vietnam Vet in spirit.

Thus, Mitt considers himself qualified to be the CinC of the US Military.

Based solely upon globalist corporate raider membership in the international finance industry, donning his "trustworthy" facade, Mitt usurps the wisdom of ages. Study Mitt's foreign policy promoting the globalist instigated overthrow of the Middle East via domino effect IMF sponsored "spontaneous" coups. Given precedented bail-outs by POTUS GWB and Obama,  IMF is using US taxpayers and US Military to front the blood money costs for global feudalism. Romney failed to condemn that. Instead, Interventionist warmonger Mitt Romney offered his first words on the military strike on Libya to intervene. "I support military action in Libya. I support out troops there in the mission they've been given,"  Romney said in an interview on the Hugh Hewitt Show. March 22, 2011 Mitt Romney fails to define the MISSION the US Military has yet to be given definition by Obama or Mitt himself.

Whether corporate raider or tax fund raider, neither Ivy League attorney can boast having created their own businesses that actually succeeded by producing American goods. To date, neither has succeeded in providing more domestic jobs to American citizens. The only investors enjoying profits from the efforts of Romney and Obama are globalist corporate raiders. Regardless whether Romney or Obama, both deliver the authoritarian globalist governance.

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