April 27, 2011

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— andy

Hump day. Up and at 'em!

All eyes on Bernanke today as we'll get a read on whether the printing presses can drop below Ludicrous Speed.

Posted by: andy at 02:36 AM | Comments (292)
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1 argh

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 02:44 AM (6rX0K)

2 Turn the dial up on the printing presses.  Being a real taxpayer, (no refunds or give-backs due to that alternative minimum thingy) I would like to receive a big government check for once.  Hey howbout a million, that will keep me going for a while!  Why don't we just give everyone a million then everyone in america is a millionaire.  Poverty solved.  I would have thought "O" would have thought of that by now!

Posted by: Ago Solvo at April 27, 2011 02:45 AM (k8JkR)

3 Ah, it's going to be a DOOOM-y Wednesday.

Posted by: joncelli at April 27, 2011 02:54 AM (Nvw83)

4 Why don't we just give everyone a million then everyone in america is a millionaire.  Poverty solved.  I would have thought "O" would have thought of that by now!

Posted by: Ago Solvo

 

I'm guessing (and hoping) that someone explained the Weimar Republic, Argentina and Zimbabwe to the second smartest man in THE WORLD (#1 being Joe Biden of course).

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 02:55 AM (6rX0K)

5 Wow.  Who knew that PBS's Tavis Smiley would set the Narrative for the day, or that Chuck Krauthammer would be in there along beside him doing cartwheels and handstands?

Posted by: Fritz at April 27, 2011 02:58 AM (AN8d5)

6 So don't keep us in suspense, what is the narrative?

Posted by: joncelli at April 27, 2011 03:01 AM (Nvw83)

7 Yes, I've often thought that the quick fix for poverty is to give everyone a government check that raises them above the poverty line. 
To be perfectly clear (and fair) I would even give one to the millionaires and billionaires, because after I finish taxing them, on their obscene profits made on the backs of the poor, women, minorities, and starving seniors, they will need those checks too.

Of course, under my plan, cat food prices would necessarily sky-rocket!

Posted by: Barky O at April 27, 2011 03:06 AM (yrGif)

8 I recommend Ebay. Korans available for 0.99. Helloooooo Dearborn!11!11!!111

Posted by: Pastor Terry Jones at April 27, 2011 03:06 AM (le5qc)

9 I Kinnae hold'er together Cap'n....the best I can do is counterfeit level 7 until I get the Mo'monium thrusters in line.....


//James T. Scott Bukake

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 03:07 AM (kq1lG)

10 I'm going to be a dickhead and repost my question for Ben Butthead Bernanke von Havenstein:

If Olga Jimenez has a lot of food in her refrigerator, and the price of food goes up, does that make her richer?  Should she rush out and spend more money?


Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 03:09 AM (B8U/R)

11 So who here thinks that today's presser will lead to 1000+ point drop in the markets?

Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2011 03:10 AM (K91WZ)

12 11 ChemJeff,

"it will be time for folks to get some skin in the game and their asses out of the fire taking a bite from the turd sandwich in Libya after assessing their profits and earnings ratio."

//General Georgi S. Ogabe

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 03:14 AM (kq1lG)

13 Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2011 07:10 AM (K91WZ)

I'm shorting everything I have.
Should be a good day for me and my buds!

Posted by: TurboTaxTim at April 27, 2011 03:15 AM (yrGif)

14 So who here thinks that today's presser will lead to 1000+ point drop in the markets?

Posted by: chemjeff

 

I say that it'll hit bottom so hard it will bounce. I'm hard pressed to determine what this guy can say that won't torpedo the Dear leader or piss off the bond markets and commodity traders. Or both.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:15 AM (6rX0K)

15 Can this presser possibly be good news?  We've never had a Fed presser before, why now? 

Posted by: DailyDish at April 27, 2011 03:15 AM (o/7aT)

16 11
that would require he tell the truth, so chance of that.


Posted by: MarkC at April 27, 2011 03:16 AM (ros+1)

17 No chance of that ! darn fingers are not working

Posted by: MarkC at April 27, 2011 03:17 AM (ros+1)

18 If Ben blows smoke up the world economy's ass today, perhaps they will be able to use this presser in court for evidence?  Just sayin'

Posted by: DailyDish at April 27, 2011 03:18 AM (o/7aT)

19 If Ben blows smoke up the world economy's ass today, perhaps they will be able to use this presser in court for evidence?  Just sayin'

Posted by: DailyDish at April 27, 2011 07:18 AM (o/7aT)

Didn't he previously swear to Congress that he would NOT monetize the debt?

You forget one of the hidden Alinsky sub-texts, namely "We elites are too big to jail!".

Posted by: TurboTaxTim at April 27, 2011 03:20 AM (yrGif)

20 If Ben blows smoke up the world economy's ass today, perhaps they will be able to use this presser in court for evidence?  Just sayin'

Posted by: DailyDish

 

If he admits that inflationary forces are on the rise, he's then effectively put Obama's head on a platter. Inflation is the mother of economic factors that work against an incumbent. If he lies about it and the debt, the bond markets and the commodity traders will react, and prices will accelerate.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:21 AM (326rv)

21 Panetta to Pentagon, Petraeus to CIA according to the AP.

Having a guy who doesn't like free speech in charge of the CIA?  What could go wrong?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 27, 2011 03:22 AM (FkKjr)

22 REMAIN CALM!!!...ALL IS WELL!!!

Posted by: Ben 'Chip Diller' Bernanke at April 27, 2011 03:22 AM (xEXzN)

23 11 So who here thinks that today's presser will lead to 1000+ point drop in the markets?

Not I. The Fed has signaled that it will end QE2 and the markets have called bullshit. So the Fed will either continue to signal that it will end it will QE2, and the markets will continue to call bullshit, or the Fed will reverse course and announce QE3 and the markets will explode to the upside. I don't see a bearish scenario.

Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 03:26 AM (W8CHQ)

24 Panetta to Pentagon, Petraeus to CIA according to the AP.

Having a guy who doesn't like free speech in charge of the CIA?  What could go wrong?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

 

How is this 'hope and change'?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:26 AM (326rv)

25 Not I. The Fed has signaled that it will end QE2 and the markets have called bullshit. So the Fed will either continue to signal that it will end it will QE2, and the markets will continue to call bullshit, or the Fed will reverse course and announce QE3 and the markets will explode to the upside. I don't see a bearish scenario.

Posted by: schizoid

 

How would ignoring inflationary forces result in a positive market?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:27 AM (6rX0K)

26 Headline at zerohedge

Banks, Hedge Funds Threaten A Repeat Of Lehman If Debt Ceiling Not Raised

Posted by: MarkC at April 27, 2011 03:27 AM (ros+1)

27

I've given up on the birth certificate.  Even if he presented one, I wouldn't believe it.  He's in charge of the freaking federal government.  Counterfeiting a BC should be easy.

I'm still interested in seeing this cypher's financials, health records, legal records, travel records and academic records, however.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 03:29 AM (8ay4x)

28 Well, that 2000 ozs of silver I bought at $4.80 in 2001 is sure gonna look good after today.

Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 03:29 AM (j5CHE)

29
27 Two words. Unwed. Mother.

Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 03:30 AM (j5CHE)

30 Morning 'rons....a bit more on the Patraeus/Panetta story....

Sources also say Marine General John Allen will be nominated to replace Petraeus as ISAF commander in Afghanistan

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 03:34 AM (VuLos)

31 27 Two Four words. Unwed. Mother. Unknown. Father

Posted by: Beto at April 27, 2011 07:30 AM (j5CHE)

FIFY

Posted by: Hrothgar at April 27, 2011 03:34 AM (yrGif)

32 Morning 'rons....a bit more on the Patraeus/Panetta story....

Sources also say Marine General John Allen will be nominated to replace Petraeus as ISAF commander in Afghanistan

Posted by: Tami

Interesting. And supposedly the Marines have been doing well in their efforts in Afghanistan. Could it be that they are actually making a sound decision?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:35 AM (6rX0K)

33

How would ignoring inflationary forces result in a positive market?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 07:27 AM (6rX0K)

If you make the inch 10 times smaller I have a 60 inch penis.

Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 03:36 AM (W8CHQ)

34

If you make the inch 10 times smaller I have a 60 inch penis.

Posted by: schizoid

Uh....congratulations?

But doesn't this erode buying power, and increase the cost of commodities?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 03:38 AM (6rX0K)

35

Interesting. And supposedly the Marines have been doing well in their efforts in Afghanistan. Could it be that they are actually making a sound decision?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 07:35 AM (6rX0K)

If they are, it's purely accidental.

Also, we lost 6 soldiers in a firefight at the Kabul airport.  Pray for their families.....

At least six American service members died in a "gunfight" Wednesday at an airport in the Afghan capital, an Afghan military official told CNN.

"A 50-year-old man opened fire at armed U.S. military soldiers inside the airport after an argument between them turned serious," said Col. Baha Dur, chief of the public relations for the Afghan National Army at Kabul military airport.

http://tinyurl.com/44o4ozs

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 03:39 AM (VuLos)

36

If you make the inch 10 times smaller I have a 60 inch penis.

Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 07:36 AM (W8CHQ)


WINNING!

Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 27, 2011 03:41 AM (MMC8r)

37

Fox News carries water for Bush on high gas prices!!

Wait, I may be slightly off with that headline

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 03:44 AM (8ay4x)

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 03:47 AM (8ay4x)

39

Republicans Seeking Improved Message

The first problem with the Republican plan is itÂ’s too complicated and therefore it is too easy to mischaracterize.  But, rather than start over or ditch the plan, letÂ’s make some substitutions and add a couple of improvements.


 Create a new subchapter for small businesses.  Small business owners are being screwed by having to file as individuals.  Let them file a new 1040-SB for their business earnings that has very few deductions but low brackets.Add tax brackets for individual tax filers making over $250,000 (39%), $1 million (43%), $2.5 million (46%) and $10 million (50%).  Take away the “tax the rich” argument.DonÂ’t change the structure of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.  Instead, tighten requirements for qualifying.  There are way too many people qualifying as “disabled.”Push means testing for SS.  Anyone with pensions and other annuities totaling over $250,000 per year gets SS benefits cut by 50%.

 These are minor improvements that undercut the Dems demagoguery.  But what will win the election is:


Bring jobs back to America.  Tarriffs!  Tax breaks for returning factories.  Start with textiles and expand from there.

 BHO promised to bring jobs back to the US, but failed miserably.  Trump is making progress by demanding tariffs on Chinese products.  This is the winning issue.  It helps employment and adds money to the tax coffers.  I know this goes against everything the neo-Republican checked pants crowd considers sacred, but it is in line with traditional Republicanism.

 

Roll back free trade agreements and dump the WTO.

 Now this is radical, but it is a winning issue.  America will not get back on its feet until we manufacture goods for our own markets.  Just like the auto industry, if foreign companies want to sell in our market without tariffs they need to manufacture a certain percentage of the goods HERE.  Refrigerators, microwaves, televisionsÂ…

 We need to stop giving a damn about the employment and economy of other countries.  It hasnÂ’t worked.  The only counties that we should have free trade agreements with are those that have similar wages and regulations.

 

Speaking of regulations, start rolling them back.  BHO promised to go through them and eliminate the burdensome regs.  He failed miserably, while actually increasing them significantly.

 We have some great examples; the Delta Smelt, Shell Oil and the ice breaker ship, etc.

Posted by: Cooter at April 27, 2011 03:49 AM (aK79B)

40 Our soldiers are giving their blood in A-stan and this is the result of Obama and Clinton's feckless policies; ;">

Pakistan to Karzai; Drop the U.S.


Oh and can I add the Karzai is heroin-whore who likes little boys and would felate a goat for the right price? And don't even get me started on the Pakistanis who the Democratic Senate voted to give $1.5 billion in aid over the next 5 years. How about we pull that back? I thought we were broke? Shitbags.

Posted by: Marcus at April 27, 2011 03:49 AM (CHrmZ)

41 This just in:  Apparently, Air America is still on the air

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 03:50 AM (8ay4x)

42 Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 07:44 AM (8ay4x)
Yes, but Bush was eviiil (and Cheney was responsible for Global Warming or Cooling as the meme du jour would have it)..

Posted by: Nancy Boy at April 27, 2011 03:51 AM (yrGif)

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 03:53 AM (H+LJc)

44 And don't even get me started on the Pakistanis who the Democratic Senate voted to give $1.5 billion in aid over the next 5 years. How about we pull that back? I thought we were broke? Shitbags.

I second that.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 03:54 AM (H+LJc)

45

Uh....congratulations?

But doesn't this erode buying power, and increase the cost of commodities?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 07:38 AM (6rX0K)

Yeah, that's the point. Value is measured in real terms, not dollars.

Posted by: schizoid at April 27, 2011 03:56 AM (B8U/R)

46 Posted by: Cooter at April 27, 2011 07:49 AM (aK79B)
Great starting set:
I might add:
Stop funding the UN
Stop funding kleptocratic dictators
Stop almost all foreign aid (make an exception for Israel)
Bring troops home from Europe, and most other places.
Secure the border

Posted by: Nancy Boy at April 27, 2011 03:56 AM (yrGif)

47 "progress by demanding tariffs on Chinese products.  This is the winning issue.  It helps employment and adds money to the tax coffers.  I know this goes against everything the neo-Republican checked pants crowd considers sacred, but it is in line with traditional Republicanism."


Hm

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 03:58 AM (H+LJc)

48 Cooter,  I think there are ways to create jobs without getting into a trade war with China.  Let's not forget they hold a large chunk of our debt.

If we opened up drilling in the Gulf and Alaska and other places,  started working on using oil shale and exploiting coal, etc. quite a few jobs would be created without one dime of federal expenditure.

As energy prices came down, we would have a population with more money to spend on other things,  so that would, of course,  create more jobs.

And that isn't counting nuclear power plant and refinery construction, both of which are sorely needed.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 27, 2011 03:59 AM (Fo83G)

49

DonÂ’t change the structure of Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security.  Instead, tighten requirements for qualifying.  There are way too many people qualifying as “disabled.”Push means testing for SS.  Anyone with pensions and other annuities totaling over $250,000 per year gets SS benefits cut by 50%.

Such changes do not help with the optics, which is what you were proposing. While means testing may not play badly, disenrolling the disabled ( and I agree that SSI is badly overused) will play badly. Count on Dems rolling out sob stories, much like was done whenever tort reform was proposed.

 

Remember that what you propose is not merely sound policy, it strikes at one of the Dem base constituancies.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 04:04 AM (326rv)

50 47 Any Other Name,

unless you have about three trillion dollars venture capital lying around unused to refire US electronics manufacture, semi-conductors, high end smelting and micro-casting, textiles, automotive parts, etc etc etc you may want to ease up to that cliff rather than pole-vault it.

Globalization has some pretty heavy costs, but also some pretty nifty standard of living benefits for all involved.....

the energy you'd use to undo it would be better served llowing the US to get over evangelical environmentalism and back into the resource exploitation biz.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 04:05 AM (kq1lG)

51 unless you have about three trillion dollars venture capital lying around unused .

Posted by: sven10077

 

Wait one...almost there... done. Here you are. Three trillion dollars. Careful, they're still hot. Don't smudge them.

Posted by: Ben 'bash 'em out Bernake at April 27, 2011 04:09 AM (326rv)

52 50 sven

I may want to ease up to that cliff rather than pole-vault it?

Seems there's a misunderstanding here.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 04:09 AM (H+LJc)

53

evangelical environmentalism

There it is.  The calling card of the New Left movement, and the one that's been the most effective in de-developing the developed world.

Squash it, and you're good to go.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:10 AM (8ay4x)

54 This isn't news, but it bears repeating:  Michelle Yeoh is delicious.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:11 AM (8ay4x)

55

Squash it, and you're good to go.

Posted by: Truman North

Step 1: Apply DDT vs. malaria.


Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 04:13 AM (H+LJc)

56 Obama cites Boehner on oil tax breaks

;">Is it possible for Boehner to take it up the squeakhole any more than this?
;">
;"> ;">I honestly think he is in a competition with Obama to see who is more incompetent.

Posted by: Marcus at April 27, 2011 04:15 AM (CHrmZ)

57
mornin, fomenters of hate

Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at April 27, 2011 04:15 AM (DTy7x)

58 Having a guy who doesn't like free speech in charge of the CIA?  What could go wrong?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk

 

How is this 'hope and change'?

Posted by: Blue Hen


...That authoritarians can believe in.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 04:16 AM (H+LJc)

59

The xfinity homepage has a big headline, maybe 24-point font: 

Where Home Prices Are Falling

Seems like a strange headline, considering the answer is, "Only where there are homes for sale."

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:16 AM (8ay4x)

60
Monty could put up the same Doom post every day and nobody would notice.

We're deep in debt. China owns our debt. The states are boned.

Posted by: Soothsayer, over easy at April 27, 2011 04:16 AM (L0wbB)

61 This just in:  Apparently, Air America is still on the air

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 07:50 AM (8ay4x)

Further evidence of how unhinged Allen West makes the lefty fucks.  Harassing his wife?  Stay classy, cocksuckers.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2011 04:18 AM (vEVry)

62 52 by any other name,

the chasm at the bottom of that cliff is pretty wide and deep.....it is a pit thirty-eight years in the making.....you ease up to it by harvesting and using coal, oil, uranium, lumber and a slew of other resources to get foreign capital back in the nation to then invest in rebirthing US manufacture.....of course good luck again in horse-whispering a generation or two whose aspiration seems to be studying Transgendered Underwater basket Weaving Lesbian studies in campus rather than learning machining, press operating, electronics manufacture, etc etc etc

the solution to globalization is either a gradual increase in our competitiveness or about 45 years of pain rebuilding our economy.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 04:18 AM (kq1lG)

63 53 Truman north,

yeah....the US is the most resource rich place on earth indexed to ease of access to the loot....

of course the Goreons are doing their best to make the 37% of the world's coal we have meaningless....but I digress.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 04:19 AM (kq1lG)

64 good luck again in horse-whispering a generation or two whose aspiration seems to be studying Transgendered Underwater basket Weaving Lesbian studies in campus rather than learning machining, press operating, electronics manufacture"""

Hunger is a powerful motivator.

Posted by: Lizbth at April 27, 2011 04:21 AM (JZBti)

65

For those who have not checked in recently on the three eaglets being raised at the Norfolk Botanical Gardens, the mother eagle was hit and killed by an airplane yesterday. Sad.

 

Posted by: Nash Rambler at April 27, 2011 04:22 AM (vmcYN)

66 64 Lizbeth,

I agree...of course given one side of the aisle's desire to subsidize stupidity with food stamps, and federal aid the hunger motivator will have to wait until after Helicopter Ben's Xerox machines go down.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 04:22 AM (kq1lG)

67 And of course, we can just keep going along: cheap foreign goods, TPTB rich and happy, a non-working welfare class, a few servers of the rich, a gov't worker class. Bring on equalizing tariffs. Of course, I am a little biased on this, as Hub's job goes to China end of this week. Whohoo..nonworking welfare class, here we come!

Posted by: Lizbth at April 27, 2011 04:25 AM (JZBti)

68 Panetta to Pentagon, Petraeus to CIA according to the AP.

Having a guy who doesn't like free speech in charge of the CIA?  What could go wrong?

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk



The free speech knock on Petraeus is the wrong tack; the real issue is "target lock".  He was too focused on his job and failed to respect the broader issues.

Target lock in a General isn't good, but I can live with it.  Target lock as a Cabinet level official cannot be accepted.  Hopefully, the officer in him can do a little introspection and self-check that behavior going forward.

Down the road a little, the service chiefs are going to own Penetta.  But, he may be the only option Obama has - he would have an outright mutiny on his hands if he tried to put any of his think tank clowns in there.  And, appearently, even Obama didn't trust Webb or Kerry.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2011 04:25 AM (7P7Ij)

69 We have a new zerO administration catch phrase for $4-5 gas: THERE IS NO SILVER BULLET. I shit you not, that is their plan to deal with it.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2011 04:31 AM (OlN4e)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 27, 2011 04:31 AM (jx2j9)

71 the energy you'd use to undo it would be better served llowing the US to get over evangelical environmentalism and back into the resource exploitation biz.
Posted by: sven10077
---------
agree we need to get back into the resource exploitation biz. 

But re-booting our manufacturing industry could be done with carrots instead of sticks.  Target industries with special tax breaks.  Entice foreign manufacturers to open here.  Make sure it is more attractive for Ford to open a new plant in Kentucky, for instance, than to open a new one in Mexico.

We need a business oriented administration in the White House and in each governor's office in every state.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2011 04:32 AM (Do528)

72 Looks like when Bob Gates said there would be no boot on the ground in Libya as long as he was SecDef, he meant it.  Now he's out and Patraeus is in.  I guess there will be boots on the ground in Libya.

Posted by: Cooter at April 27, 2011 04:32 AM (aK79B)

73 Sorry, Patraeus to CIA, Panetta to SecDef.

Posted by: Cooter at April 27, 2011 04:34 AM (aK79B)

74 Sven, reality will take care of the printing press business, and right soon.

Look, we have neutered our country's ability to stand self-sufficiently. On purpose, and so we could get stuff cheap and 'save mother earth'(or our portion of it, anyway).

Well, the bill for that foolishness is coming due.

And not many left to pay it. The gov't unions are just starting to feel the pinch of what this means.

If we don't start producing in this country again, someone else eventually will. Iykwimaittyd.

Posted by: Lizbth at April 27, 2011 04:34 AM (JZBti)

75 Yeah, with the type of "defense" Turbo Timmy and Benron have been giving the "strong dollar" - and by "defense" I mean vicious, depraved and unrelenting anal gang-rape - it's a miracle the once-great USD has any strength left at all.

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2011 04:34 AM (dt6br)

76 A pig just flew by my window.....

House Votes to Strip Public Employee Unions of Collective Bargaining Rights in Â… MassachusettsÂ…

House lawmakers voted overwhelmingly last night to strip police officers, teachers, and other municipal employees of most of their rights to bargain over health care, saying the change would save millions of dollars for financially strapped cities and towns.

The 111-to-42 vote followed tougher measures to broadly eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in Ohio, Wisconsin, and other states. But unlike those efforts, the push in Massachusetts was led by Democrats who have traditionally stood with labor to oppose any reduction in workersÂ’ rights.

http://tinyurl.com/y647dzu

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 04:40 AM (VuLos)

77 Where's my god damn DOOM??

Posted by: low level socialist agitator at April 27, 2011 04:40 AM (K/USr)

78 65 For those who have not checked in recently on the three eaglets being raised at the Norfolk Botanical Gardens, the mother eagle was hit and killed by an airplane yesterday. Sad.

 

Hope the airplane was OK.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:40 AM (8ay4x)

79 Or, as Antony Blinken, Vice President Biden’s national security adviser, put it in The New York Times on Sunday, “We did lead—we cleared the way for the allies.”

ThereÂ’s just one thing: The allies donÂ’t have spare parts.

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 04:42 AM (tvs2p)

80 Good morning, everyone. 

We may hit the 60s today, which would be great seeing as how we had snow yesterday morning. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 04:42 AM (pW2o8)

81 A pig just flew by my window.....

House Votes to Strip Public Employee Unions of Collective Bargaining Rights in Â… MassachusettsÂ…

Posted by: Tami

I believe that this is a sign of the apocalypse.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 04:42 AM (6rX0K)

82 Why don't we just give everyone a million then everyone in america is a millionaire. Poverty solved. I would have thought "O" would have thought of that by now! Posted by: Ago Solvo ------------------------------------------------ Aside from the Zimbabwe effect, you are forgetting the root cause of most evil in this world: GREED. If I blow through my million is that it? I had the high life and lost it? Nope! I'm coming after your million.........with the guns I bought with my million. Can you see the cascading effects here? None of them good? It would be Thunderdome.

Posted by: Predictable End at April 27, 2011 04:42 AM (7bRCJ)

83 "As a friend noted on Facebook, ObamaÂ’s popularity is falling so fast that Kenyans are now claiming Obama was born in the United States."   Fnar!

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:44 AM (8ay4x)

84 Can you handle the truth?

HereÂ’s some news you may not have heard: One year after the worst oil spill in history, the Gulf of Mexico is nearly back to normal.

That’s right: Armageddon didn’t happen. Instead of terrible harm to the biosphere, the Deepwater Horizon spill has caused only mild problems. In fact, because of the fishing bans imposed after the spill, there are more fish than ever. Shark and mackerel populations have exploded. “Red snapper are unbelievable right now,” one fisherman said. “You could put a rock on the end a string and they’d bite it.”

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 04:44 AM (tvs2p)

85 Or, as Antony Blinken, Vice President Biden’s national security adviser, put it in The New York Times on Sunday, “We did lead—we cleared the way for the allies.”

ThereÂ’s just one thing: The allies donÂ’t have spare parts.

Posted  by: Neo

Cleared what way? We were supposed to be implementing a no-fly zone? 

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 04:45 AM (6rX0K)

86 Obama cites Boehner on oil tax breaks

;">Is it possible for Boehner to take it up the squeakhole any more than this?
;">
;">;">I honestly think he is in a competition with Obama to see who is more incompetent.

Posted by: Marcus at April 27, 2011 08:15 AM (CHrmZ)



Yesterday, the media totally ignored (I googled Boenher agrees to ending subsidies for oil comps.and found only 270 ish news articles) that Boehner said this (even while reporting other parts of the same interview) UNTIL BO's letter came out.  Just more proof the WH tells them what to report and WHEN to report it.

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 04:45 AM (penCf)

87

Wow Tami, that is NUTS!

But remember, we also already have socialized medicine here.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:46 AM (8ay4x)

88
@56

Also in on today's wuppin' of John Boehner (R Clueless):

Reacting to Boehner’s comments in an exclusive interview with ABC News Monday that big oil companies “ought to be paying their fair share" and that “they've got some part of this to blame,” Pelosi wrote in a letter obtained by ABC News to House Speaker John Boehner, that “House Democrats have long advocated eliminating outdated and costly taxpayer subsidies that provide billions of dollars to highly profitable oil companies.”

“Your comments yesterday acknowledged that oil companies ought to be paying their fair share,” Pelosi, D-Calif., wrote. “It makes little sense for American consumers -- who are now paying over $4 a gallon for gasoline in most parts of the United States -- to have billions of their taxpayer dollars subsidizing oil companies that are making record profits.”

Pelosi called on Boehner to “schedule a vote on ending these tax breaks on the House floor” upon Congress’s return from recess next week and noted that she was looking "forward to our working together to achieve this necessary change.”

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 04:47 AM (UB58p)

89 "As a friend noted on Facebook, ObamaÂ’s popularity is falling so fast that Kenyans are now claiming Obama was born in the United States."

FOCROFLMAO

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 04:48 AM (tvs2p)

90 You'll do realize our manufacturing base isn't dead - it has been distributed.  What is dead are large consolidated, long terms workforces.   I not sure we want them back. 

Give me a hundred nimble smaller enterprises with innovative management, and a value based on IP and business volume versus "economies of scale" and a distributor chain.  Small enough to fail is GOOD.

Now get some sanity back into tort reform, be reasonable in environmental restrictions, and make health benefits a personal tax deduction -- and let the small guys grow this economy.  Tariffs, government carrots, etc. all distort the economy - they have the same inherent Marxist failure - some "expert" or politician is deciding what the economy needs, and they don't know.

The workers need portable retirement plans that they own, not company pensions; they need to own their own health insurance; and they need to generally be responsible for themselves.

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2011 04:49 AM (7P7Ij)

91 Pelosi called on Boehner to “schedule a vote on ending these tax breaks on the House floor” upon Congress’s return from recess next week and noted that she was looking "forward to our working together to achieve this necessary change.”

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

 

Sure.... Right after you agree to testify as to why we gave money to Brazil to drill for oil. Until then, pound sand.

Posted by: What I wish Boehner would say at April 27, 2011 04:49 AM (326rv)

92 I was making coffee when this thought hit me, tell me if I'm off my rocker (which I was cuz I was standing, heh, or if it makes sense)

Obama didn't go to Easter Mass for Catholic support (votes) he went to an all black Mass with a Priest that proclaimed his grand baby is no longer considered 3/5 a person because of the Ds, to garner the Black vote.  He has lost a lot of AA support and needed to show that in his heart, he still hates whitey!

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 04:49 AM (penCf)

93 The free speech knock on Petraeus is the wrong tack

I disagree.  As a military commander Petraeus swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution, of which free speech is an important part.  Having a man who doesn't respect the Constitution (or free speech) in charge of the CIA is a big problem.


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 27, 2011 04:50 AM (FkKjr)

94 I think we should blot out the sun so that heater and lightbulb manufacturers don't have to compete with a cheap foreign resource.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:51 AM (8ay4x)

95 We should support the attack to remove the Wilsonian authoritarian powers "authorizing" the Federal Reserve.

Boehner epitomizes the GOP establishment. America is strangling under the Federal Reserve's authoritarian abuse of powers, and the GOP won't fight it.

Mark Steyn pointed out Nancy Pelosi's "Common Values" speech to Republicans amounting to the biggest ever authoritarian enforcement of mass poverty via no-value Dollar, federal taxation on the middle class and federal implementation of inflation while wages fall, breaking the middle class into submission.

Steyn also pointed out that despite personal respect for Paul Ryan, that's far too little far too late a "plan" since in 10 years America already is a broken nation by stubbornly stupid suicidal spending (S4).

Finally, Steyn pointed out markedly how the entire Republican Leadership eschews the Tea Party movement to the chagrin of voters.

The GOP plays Lucy to the Tea Party Charlie Brown each election, pulling out the fabricated Cloak and Dagger aka "Truther" and "Birther" meanings poisoned by false attributions.

The 9/11 Commission Chairman and Members denounced their own Report after the fact when they realized that the Federal Authoritarians had coerced false testimony from all government witnesses who confessed themselves after the fact. It takes neoconservatism, those in power, to attack the 9/11 Commission as "Truthers".

Obama is the embodiment of Deceit. There is a specific constitutional requirement that every POTUS be a natural born US citizen, the Founders' encyclopedia defining that both parents be US citizens and the birth be within the USA. Demanding verification, let alone upholding the constitutional standard, is the responsible procedure in upholding and defending the US Constitution. So what happened? Immediately, neoconservatives were first to accredit no record as fully sufficient while simultaneously attacking any demand for documented substantiation as "Birtherism".

Were Steyn a natural born US citizen, I'd be campaigning for him as POTUS. As it is, I'll maintain constitutional conservative governance with the candidate firmly on that platform.




Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 04:52 AM (H+LJc)

96

He has lost a lot of AA support and needed to show that in his heart, he still hates whitey!

I don't know which is worse:  that democrats subject minorities to the soft bigorty of low expectations, or that racism may work.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 04:53 AM (8ay4x)

97 that would require he tell the truth, so chance of that.

Posted by: ÊæÈ ÚÑÈ at April 27, 2011 04:53 AM (ZlnqA)

98 What this country needs is another presidential run by Gollom RonFukkinPaul. That chicken brain loves Islam and thinks the victory mosque is a really good idea. I got a gutfull of that imbecile the last round.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2011 04:57 AM (OlN4e)

99 Panetta to SecDef

Oh, dear sweet mother of all that we hold dear.

Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 04:57 AM (MMC8r)

100 I keep looking for signs that Boehner isn't just more of the Rove-type squishy Repukes that were as much in love with pork as their donk counterparts and ended up getting rolled in 2006 & 2008.  So far I'm not finding more than empty fucking rhetoric.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2011 04:57 AM (vEVry)

101

I believe that this is a sign of the apocalypse.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 08:42 AM (6rX0K)

I think so too.....I'm gonna run my credit cards up.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 04:57 AM (VuLos)

102 Drudge: OBAMA TO SHOW LONG FORM BIRTH CERT

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 04:58 AM (UB58p)

103 Drudge siren:  Obama to show long-form birth certificate.

Posted by: Whoa at April 27, 2011 04:58 AM (GUduV)

104 Panetta to SecDef

Les Aspin II

Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 04:58 AM (MMC8r)

105 Panetta to SecDef

Oh, dear sweet mother of all that we hold dear.

Posted by: nickless

 

Talk about the Peter principle. When you combine this with talk of Gorelick not only not serving jail time, but making millions in government 'service', you realize that the beltway is one vast asylum.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 04:59 AM (326rv)

106 Drudge: OBAMA TO SHOW LONG FORM BIRTH CERT Mother: Mary Father: Joseph

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 27, 2011 04:59 AM (JKe0g)

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:00 AM (penCf)

108

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 08:58 AM (UB58p)

Yeah, right after he closes Gitmo.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2011 05:00 AM (OlN4e)

109 Joseph the Plumber.. heh

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 27, 2011 05:00 AM (JKe0g)

110 Having a man who doesn't respect the Constitution (or free speech) in charge of the CIA is a big problem.

The CIA officiated the White House given GHWB.

The CIA officially merges with the US Military given Petraeus.

Instead of any constitutional separation and limit of powers, we witness the amalgamation of authoritarianism requiring the subjugation of America to elitist globalism. Of course it's accomplished carrying the banners of patriotism. As if the UN recognizes any sovereign nation.


Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:00 AM (H+LJc)

111 breaking news "long form birth certificate copy"

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:00 AM (H+LJc)

112 Air America Host arrested after disrupting Allen West Town Hall. I guess she just can't stand it that her congressman is a black man.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at April 27, 2011 05:01 AM (b0BN0)

113 Drudge: OBAMA TO SHOW LONG FORM BIRTH CERT

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix

 

How gracious of him. He'll finally do what the peasantry is compelled to do every day. Think he'll wait for the ink to dry first? Is this the one that the frickin' governor of the state of Hawaii prattled on about, only to wander away before the punchline?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:01 AM (6rX0K)

114 Obama's father's nationality listed as "African".

Palin isn't alone on that slip.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:02 AM (H+LJc)

115 102 Drudge: OBAMA TO SHOW LONG FORM BIRTH CERT
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's a fake.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:02 AM (8ay4x)

116 Calm down, Morons. He's the Chairman of the Fed. He's well aware of the volatility his statements can inject into capital and commodities markets. I've been looking at his prepared and I don't see anything that could give rise to investor panic. Let's see... Bond buying program winding down as expected, okay... refers to Sec. Geithner's reassurances of our strong-dollar policy... mmm-hmm... This is interesting. The green ink manufacturing sector is projected to see a sharp increase in revenue... RUN FOR THE HILLS! NO, WAIT! BUY GOLD AND AMMO AND RUN FOR THE HILLS!

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at April 27, 2011 05:03 AM (W7Ddq)

117 Drudge siren:  Obama to show long-form birth certificate.

Posted by: Whoa at April 27, 2011 08:58 AM (GUduV)

Why now?  We are already 2 1/2 years into his regime.  I don't give a shit anymore because what's done is done. 

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2011 05:03 AM (yQWNf)

118 (CNN) – The White House released President Obama's original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States.



"Uh, anybody read Swahilli? "


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 05:03 AM (UB58p)

120 Ha! It took Donald Trump antagonizing The Won.

Now The Donald won't run.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:04 AM (H+LJc)

121 So the strategy is:  Boehner is going to let Pelosi put a measure on repealing certain energy industry tax breaks up for a vote.  The Dims vote for it, and a bunch of 'pubs don't vote, letting it pass.  It goes to the Senate, where some lefty tool (pick one) sponsors it, and Reid lets it go to the floor for a vote - and it passes.  Then Obama signs it, with or without a signing statement.  Gas prices skyrocket.  Then the 'Pubs get to hammer the Dims because of high gas prices.

Right, that will work

Posted by: Jean at April 27, 2011 05:04 AM (7P7Ij)

122 Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 08:58 AM (MMC8r)

Panetta will be worse; he is far stupider than Aspin -- and that's a difficult proposition!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 27, 2011 05:04 AM (LH6ir)

123

The White House released President Obama's original birth certificate Wednesday.

The surprise release follows recent and sustained remarks by businessman Donald Trump, among others, that raised doubts as to whether the president was born in the United States
.

 

So he refused to do this as an obligation to the office that he sought, but would do it to placate the host of a reality TV show? That's gravitas by the bucketful.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:04 AM (326rv)

124 at long last we can finally put this birtherism to rest and move onto stuff that matters, like being bankrupt

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2011 05:05 AM (wuv1c)

125 Shep Smith: ‘Fox News Can Confirm The President Of The United States Is A Citizen Of The United States. Period.’

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 09:03 AM (penCf)

Geez Shep.....LOTS of people are 'CITIZENS' you effeminate dipshit.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:06 AM (VuLos)

126 What I saw is a picture of someone holding what appears to be Obama's birth certificate.  On its face, his BC looks fine to me, but I'll wait to see what our web-based super sleuths have to say.

Posted by: Whoa at April 27, 2011 05:06 AM (GUduV)

127 It happened in Massachusetts ...
House lawmakers voted overwhelmingly last night to strip police officers, teachers, and other municipal employees of most of their rights to bargain over health care, saying the change would save millions of dollars for financially strapped cities and towns.
The 111-to-42 vote followed tougher measures to broadly eliminate collective bargaining rights for public employees in Ohio, Wisconsin, and other states. But unlike those efforts, the push in Massachusetts was led by Democrats who have traditionally stood with labor to oppose any reduction in workersÂ’ rights.

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 05:06 AM (tvs2p)

128 Obama,

Evangelical Environmentalists as Evangelical Interventionists

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:07 AM (H+LJc)

129 Bambi will hold a press conference in 35 minutes...or whenever he gets there.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:07 AM (VuLos)

130 Poor Poor Jerome Corsi, I'm guessing his book sales are going to plummet

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2011 05:08 AM (wuv1c)

131 I want to find out how Toonces went to Pock-hee-Stahn when Americans were forbidden to do so and on what Passport?

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2011 05:08 AM (yQWNf)

132 I just looked at it.  I'm gonna say it's fake.  It looks fake.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:08 AM (8ay4x)

133 Then the 'Pubs get to hammer the Dims because of high gas prices.

Right, that will work

John Boehner thinks he's Machiavelli.  We're screwed.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at April 27, 2011 05:09 AM (FkKjr)

134 My money's on forgery.  He still has to explain why he waited until now to release produce this.

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 27, 2011 05:09 AM (Rn2kl)

135

So he refused to do this as an obligation to the office that he sought, but would do it to placate the host of a reality TV show? That's gravitas by the bucketful.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 09:04 AM (326rv)


Nope, the Fed is giving a presser today so they want to create a distraction.

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:09 AM (penCf)

136 Oh, and Panetta is a complete dumbass.  He's the perfect choice to micro-manage our slow, controlled loss in Afghanistan.

And I'm frankly starting to wonder about Petraeus despite his success in Iraq; maybe he'll pull it together again at CIA.

Posted by: Whoa at April 27, 2011 05:10 AM (GUduV)

137 Now we're also going to get newly released produced Occidental/Columbia/Harvard transcripts showing straight A's. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at April 27, 2011 05:10 AM (Rn2kl)

138 *Unlikely=either its getting bad enough and they finally got a good fake ready

*More likely=they've been holding back the birth certificate all along and playing coy about it to make a few righties overreact (Alysnki) thus distract the country from from gas, unemployment, lost wars and use the media to discredit republicans and tea partiers generally.   Always a herd of social cons ready to jump at that bait.  My guess is that the issue has been gaining traction and thus clearly crossed the line for white house strategerists and become a liability rather then a benefit.  Thats why we are seeing it now...

Also who is this Barry Moonflower Sotero guy?  I wanted to see Barack Hussein Obamas birth certificate.

Posted by: Shiggz at April 27, 2011 05:10 AM (mLAWK)

139

Has anyone ever seen a real birth certificate without a raised embossed seal?

Mine is 15 years newer than that one, give or take, and mine's in shitty condition.  That one looks near-mint.

And why now?  Really!  This was a great thing for the rpesident to sit on, politically, to make his opponents look stupid.  He should have released it--at the earliest-- when he was re-nominated.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:11 AM (8ay4x)

140 now can we see his grades while at Harvard?

Posted by: Bannor at April 27, 2011 05:11 AM (6AXh/)

141 Well ... that ended with a whimper..

Posted by: IreneFingIrene at April 27, 2011 05:11 AM (JKe0g)

142

Nope, the Fed is giving a presser today so they want to create a distraction.

exactly!

after the Bernak's speech, the stock market will probably fall and we need something else to talk about.

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2011 05:11 AM (wuv1c)

143

So is this another installment of "let's talk about something other than the ongoing fuck-up follies"? Or did someone there at Unicorn ranch realize that they had to counter this because it's finally gaining traction?

 

Let's go to the tote board for the current odds.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:11 AM (6rX0K)

144 Funny how zerO has a copy of his birth certificate now but Hawaii does not.

Posted by: maddogg at April 27, 2011 05:12 AM (OlN4e)

145 where is it that people are seeing it?

Posted by: Ben at April 27, 2011 05:12 AM (wuv1c)

146 79 Or, as Antony Blinken, Vice President Biden’s national security adviser, put it in The New York Times on Sunday, “We did lead—we cleared the way for the allies.” ----------------------------------- Boys I've got two pictures hanging on the walls of my home gym. One is George S. Patton, the other is Antony Blinken. You see men, they are both leaders, just of a different sort. I use each for motivation in a different way. Now when I really want to push myself(in the home gym)I grab the free weights, grab my balls, look George S. Patton in the eye and I growl, "General, lead the way and I don't care if we end up at the gates of hell!". And then I push out a set or two to exhaustion. Now when it's time for a different approach, I turn to one Antony Blinken. That's right men, I grab my latte and take a nice comfortable seat at the BowFlex machine! I'll grab the Lat bar(not too tight), look Antony Blinken right in the eye and say, "Blinken, I'm gonna push out these Lat pulldowns half-ass and with no expectation of a positive result! Then I'm going to get the hell out of here before I break something and get blamed for it!" So gentlemen, you can lead and demand others get the hell out of the way, or you can lead and "clear the way" for others. In my home gym, I have the best of both worlds.

Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 05:12 AM (7bRCJ)

147 Birth Cert is on Drudge

Posted by: Zakn at April 27, 2011 05:12 AM (zyaZ1)

148 I want to see Barrys transcripts.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at April 27, 2011 05:12 AM (yQWNf)

149 Pfft - it's a picture of a copy, being held-up by someone. Not the embossed original.

He has the entire Federal Government at his disposal - you telling me he couldn't have fabricated this?

Simply not serious.

Posted by: DocJ at April 27, 2011 05:13 AM (dt6br)

150 I do find it odd that Race isn't on it. Gonna have to head to FR to see if they have some comparison Long Forms from the same time.

Posted by: Zakn at April 27, 2011 05:13 AM (zyaZ1)

151 of course it looks near mint it's been in a gov't filing cabinet since he was born.

Posted by: Bannor at April 27, 2011 05:13 AM (6AXh/)

152 WTF is FOX talking about?  Is the big release just another computer form similar to what's already been released?  What was I just looking at with hand-written entries?

Posted by: Whoa at April 27, 2011 05:14 AM (GUduV)

153 @144

Nope, the Fed is giving a presser today so they want to create a distraction.

exactly!

---

yup.

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 05:14 AM (pW2o8)

154

Looking at the information on it, there is no plausible reason he would not have released it already.  Seriously.  I smell a rat, and it's a big rat.

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:15 AM (8ay4x)

155 Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 09:11 AM (8ay4x)

It's clean looking because it is a copy of the original that has been sitting undisturbed for 49 years. This isn't the birth certificate that was given to the parent.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 27, 2011 05:15 AM (LH6ir)

156 Didn't he say, in one of his books, that something 'bothered' him about his BC?  I can't see anything that would cause him to be bothered.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:15 AM (VuLos)

157 OMG, I thought you guys were joking about Panetta to the Pentagon, but I just saw it on Drudge. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 05:16 AM (pW2o8)

158 This a thoughtfully written piece on a horrific subject. To think that our tax money was involved is infuriating to put it mildly. I had to exercise for an hour in order to keep myself from destroying furniture, but tax payers need to be confronted with this no matter how one feels about this "right".

Warning: Extreme content warning on the embedded links. If you don't have complete control of your emotions it may overwhelm.

And some people are protesting the"inhumane treatment" of the Wiki-leaker.



Posted by: ontherocks at April 27, 2011 05:16 AM (HBqDo)

159 Didn't he say, in one of his books, that something 'bothered' him about his BC?  I can't see anything that would cause him to be bothered.

Posted by: Tami

 

Yes. it proved that he was mortal.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:16 AM (6rX0K)

160 Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 09:08 AM

What will Donald recognize it to be?

Way too easy a duck out of running.

And should it be a fraud, and The Donald accept it as valid, what good came of Trump's antagonism?

As far as being a natural born citizen according to the Founders' US Constitution, both of the president's parents must be US Citizens and the birth be in the USA. And dog piling on that rabbit isn't going to revise the Founders' encyclopedia.

There is no reason to trust Obama. There is even less reason to trust those who enabled Obama's election, those who cooperate as authoritarian enablers.

That Obama is driving America to utter destruction is reason enough to oppose him.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:17 AM (H+LJc)

161 So who here thinks that today's presser will lead to 1000+ point drop in the markets? Posted by: chemjeff at April 27, 2011 07:10 AM (K91WZ) But aren't the markets feeling bullish, and isn't there a rally to silver?

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 05:18 AM (mHQ7T)

162

OK, fuck it. Right at the top, it says CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH

that's the same fucking thing they put out during the campaign

Posted by: Truman North at April 27, 2011 05:18 AM (8ay4x)

163 Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 09:16 AM (6rX0K)

+1!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at April 27, 2011 05:19 AM (LH6ir)

164

Yes. it proved that he was mortal.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 09:16 AM (6rX0K)

LOL!  Remember when O & M went to India?  I was watching an Indian news broadcast and they had a panel of people on commenting as Obama landed and made his way to the limo.

The anchor at one point said, "He really should have someone walking behind him whispering, 'Remember thou art mere mortal....remember thou art mere mortal'.  I fell off my chair laughing.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:20 AM (VuLos)

165 1961 copy of a Certificate of Live Birth.

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 05:20 AM (tvs2p)

166

#166

Give that man a cigar

Posted by: Velvet Ambition at April 27, 2011 05:21 AM (wNo3x)

167

Oh lord.  Panetta as SECDEF?  It's gonna be a long 20 months.

Wow, I can hear my husband yelling from 8000 miles away.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 27, 2011 05:22 AM (XdlcF)

168 hereÂ’s the White House link

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 05:23 AM (tvs2p)

169 "No, Mrs. Obama.  You must sign your full legal name to the child's birth certificate.  Yeah, just squeeze in your legal first name right above, there.  Excellent!"

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2011 05:23 AM (XBM1t)

170 WINNING! Posted by: Andi Sullivan at April 27, 2011 07:41 AM (MMC8r) Losing

Posted by: Andi's Beagles at April 27, 2011 05:23 AM (mHQ7T)

171 167 CDR M,

it wouldn't....

that said it is another release of his CLB not a long form BC....

<----I am not a birther I am a transcript guy.

Barack O'bama could not join the US Military Officer Corps with his documentation, he could not even get a valid US passport without an affidavit and answering whether or not his Lil' Bury was circumsized.....

Barry Soetoro could not get hired by the Federal Civil Service system as he refuses to release his transcripts....

but he *is* PotUS and a PoS.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 05:24 AM (kq1lG)

172 Ben at April 27, 2011 09:08 AM

Unlike Obama, Corsi earned his prestigious degrees.

Unlike Obama's administration, Corsi does not fabricate evidence.

Unlike most people, Corsi conducts scholarly research.

Obama's handlers dumping this now certainly distracts America from Obama's insane spending and insane instigation of wars.

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:24 AM (H+LJc)

173
Barack O'bama could not join the US Military Officer Corps with his documentation, he could not even get a valid US passport without an affidavit and answering whether or not his Lil' Bury was circumsized.....

Barry Soetoro could not get hired by the Federal Civil Service system as he refuses to release his transcripts....

but he *is* PotUS and a PoS.

Posted by: sven10077

 

I can't get my drivers license renewed with that piece of crap.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:25 AM (326rv)

174 169 Neo,

Bury is a fan of the "tell a lie often enough it becomes truth" school of Geobellization....

I think Shempf Smiff just orgasmed.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 05:25 AM (kq1lG)

175 WTF!!!!!  Panny secdef???

link goes to redstate covering the incident where he testified before congress based on something he saw on CNN

http://tinyurl.com/4327n9q

Posted by: Shiggz at April 27, 2011 05:25 AM (mLAWK)

176 So why wasn't this BC released the first time it was asked for?

IRRC, the law in place in 1961 regarding one parent not being a citizen, and the other parent being a citizen - I think Stanley Ann was too young to meet the qualification to ensure her son citizenship status.

I'd have to go find the statute again.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 05:26 AM (LFiVW)

177 166 OK, fuck it. Right at the top, it says CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH
that's the same fucking thing they put out during the campaign

_______

No, it's not. What they released during the campaign was a certificaTION of live birth.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 05:26 AM (6fER6)

178

WTF!!!!!  Panny secdef???

 

Yup. Hope and change is revealed as recycling and musical chairs.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:27 AM (326rv)

179 The Donald about to make a statement....

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:28 AM (VuLos)

180 What's going on with the left side of the form?  Looks weird.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2011 05:28 AM (XBM1t)

181 Trump:  "Today I am very proud of myself because I have been able to accomplish something no one else has been able to accomplish....I was informed that the President finally released his BC."

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:29 AM (VuLos)

182 Why does it say BHO.  I thought he was born a Barry

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:29 AM (penCf)

183 174 hereÂ’s the White House link
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"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the PresidentÂ’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

So why is the date leaking through from the back of what was released 2007?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 05:29 AM (6fER6)

184 Pannetta as SecDef and Petraeus heading the CIA?????????

What's wrong with this picture?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 05:29 AM (LFiVW)

185

In local news, I learned last night that just because the weatherman is on tv all evening, pre-empting all the prime time shows, pointing out tornado after tornado...doesn't mean there was actually a tornado on the ground. Grrrr.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 27, 2011 05:30 AM (XdlcF)

186 I'm excited about that XM-25 aka " the Punisher." And longbows. Always longbows.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 05:32 AM (mHQ7T)

187 188 What's going on with the left side of the form? Looks weird.
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Never photocopied from a big book before?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 05:32 AM (6fER6)

188 For a Hawaii birth, there is no problem with that.  That law only would apply if Hussein was born outside of the US - in that case, Stanley's young age would prohibit her from automatically giving US citizenship to her kid.


I don't remember the born outside the US qualifier.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 05:32 AM (LFiVW)

189 Why does it say BHO. I thought he was born a Barry Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 09:29 AM (penCf) He was born a berry. Not saying he's a fruit, but he could sit on a popsicle and tell you the flavor.

Posted by: Tattoo De Plane at April 27, 2011 05:33 AM (mHQ7T)

190 I wish that this would end it, but of course it won't. Good news is that Trump's embryonic campaign is done. He can play this off as "See, I was just asking questions, I get results, he hadn't released this before I started asking." But that's still a non-starter. He said he had all these investigators and there was nothing. So good bye Trump. But its good because he wasn't a Republican really, so it wasn't a Republican burning out on this one. Birfer's need to let it go. It didn't take this long to fake it. He left it out there as bait to reel in fish. He caught Trump, which is just as well anyway. Everyone else needs to say, see, I always said I took him at his word. And MOVE THE FUCK ON. There is nothing to be gained in this.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2011 05:33 AM (Fw2Gg)

191

"In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the PresidentÂ’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

So why is the date leaking through from the back of what was released 2007?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 09:29 AM (6fER6)

Where? 

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:34 AM (penCf)

192 201 Blaster,

the Birther thing was never "it" for me....

we need to demand that the Ivy league treat his academic record with the same 'security" they did Bush's....

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 05:35 AM (kq1lG)

193 Birfer's need to let it go. It didn't take this long to fake it. He left it out there as bait to reel in fish. He caught Trump, which is just as well anyway. Everyone else needs to say, see, I always said I took him at his word. And MOVE THE FUCK ON. There is nothing to be gained in this.

---

I basically agree (minus the ALL CAPS) but guess I would just add that I find it interesting he released this just as Trump's questions about his academic records heated up. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 05:36 AM (pW2o8)

194 What are all the pencil marks? I'm sure they have nothing to do with "Birtherism" but why go around putting random numbers/letters in the boxes of the form?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2011 05:37 AM (xMT+4)

195 Funny thing.  The BC isn't top news on Google.

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:37 AM (penCf)

196 207 Miss80'sBaby,

won't work they shot their wad already getting the boyking selected.....

it is just live performance art at this stage.

Posted by: sven10077 at April 27, 2011 05:38 AM (kq1lG)

197 What?   I rechecked the calendar, and it's not April 1.   I never cared about the birther thing, so this isn't about the headline, not the non-issue.  Why put up a picture of the COLB, which is already out there, and pretend it's the long form?

Posted by: Chuckit at April 27, 2011 05:39 AM (mFvrq)

198 BTW - it's not Obama's copy, it's a certified scan from the Hawaii State Register, dated 4/25/2011

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 05:40 AM (UB58p)

199 Having not paid much attention to the birth certificate controversy, I hadn't realized that Barky Sr must've been doing the horizontal mambo with Stanley Ann awfully soon after she turned 18.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2011 05:40 AM (Hiaja)

200

InstaP. has a link to someone arrested for singing "Kung Fu Fighting".

No, really.

Posted by: Mama AJ at April 27, 2011 05:40 AM (XdlcF)

201

Yeah.  That was the key to that argument, which is why people had demanded a BC with the birth hospital on it.  I think Thomas Sowell was the first to being this original argument up.

Of course, Hussein is still not Constitutionally eligible because of being born to a foreign father in addition to the additional nationalities he seems to have taken on (through his supposed adoption to Lolo Soetoro).



Eh, I was never big on the BC thing, except it was a red flag to me that he wouldn't release it.

Funny, no one digging into passport questions. Guess that's not as sexy.

I do have a screen cap of an article from an East African newspaper that identifies Obama as "Kenyan born".

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 05:41 AM (LFiVW)

202 The BC is a forgery. We have top men looking into it.

Posted by: The Donald at April 27, 2011 05:41 AM (EL+OC)

203

InstaP. has a link to someone arrested for singing "Kung Fu Fighting".

No, really.




About time.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 05:41 AM (LFiVW)

204 #209

It is at the NY Slime. 

Posted by: Kemp at April 27, 2011 05:41 AM (JpFM9)

205 What are all the pencil marks? I'm sure they have nothing to do with "Birtherism" but why go around putting random numbers/letters in the boxes of the form?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2011 09:37 AM (xMT+4)

If you look to the left, the BC on that page has pencil marks too.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:42 AM (VuLos)

206 I'm easily confused and I can't access the form. Is this the real certificate, or is this a re-tread of the COLB that was already furnished?

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 05:47 AM (6rX0K)

207 It is a sham:

NBC News reports that the president requested the release of the birth certificate last week and that the White House counsel personally traveled to Hawaii to receive it.

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:47 AM (penCf)

208 202 "In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the PresidentÂ’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii."

So why is the date leaking through from the back of what was released 2007?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 09:29 AM (6fER6)

Where?
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In the factcheck.org version. They're even showing a photo of the 2007 date stamp on the back.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 05:48 AM (6fER6)

209 Bambi on now....

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:48 AM (VuLos)

210 Here's more from MSNBC:

P
feiffer said the president asked his counsel to go through the legal options of asking the state of Hawaii to make an exception to release a form of birth certificate not normally made public. Pfeiffer said the state agreed to do so, “in part because of the tremendous volume of requests they had been getting.”

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 05:49 AM (penCf)

211

210 207 Miss80'sBaby,

won't work they shot their wad already getting the boyking selected.....

it is just live performance art at this stage.

They're really forcing the performances this time. The places where they're having the most impact are the divided or D-leaning parts of these swing districts, since they can get the more emotional reactions there. Some of the shouting matches and other reactions have been intense at times, though I don't think the libs are capturing as many violent reactions as they want. Regardless, I know it's an old tactic of theirs but it still disgusts me because they're attempting to disrupt actual debate over sensitive issues.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 05:49 AM (170sK)

212 Fack!

Posted by: Jerome Corsi at April 27, 2011 05:50 AM (JKe0g)

213 So, will all of the policy changes that Hawaii has made to make it difficult to get the long form be reversed?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 05:51 AM (6fER6)

214 Vice President BidenÂ’s national security adviser's mother must be so proud.


Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 27, 2011 05:52 AM (oDMwn)

215 Wait, I thought Hawaii JUST said they CAN'T release the long form? WTF?

Posted by: todler at April 27, 2011 05:52 AM (fPOY0)

216
P
feiffer said the president asked his counsel to go through the legal options of asking the state of Hawaii to make an exception to release a form of birth certificate not normally made public.

Oh, come on!  I specifically remember the Hawaiian official stating that they couldn't release it without authorization from the person in question, not that they couldn't release it under any circumstances.  God this administration is a bunch of lying cocksuckers. 

Obviously all Obama had to do is obtain a copy from Hawaii for his personal use and show it at the start of this whole mess. 

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 05:52 AM (pW2o8)

217 Apple released a FAQ regarding iOS location tracking.

Posted by: Gran at April 27, 2011 05:53 AM (kmmbv)

218 Bambi:  "Can't solve our problem is we're distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers." "We do not have time for this silliness...I do not have time for this silliness."

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 05:53 AM (VuLos)

219 Having not paid much attention to the birth certificate controversy, I hadn't realized that Barky Sr must've been doing the horizontal mambo with Stanley Ann awfully soon after she turned 18.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2011 09:40 AM (Hiaja)

 

And legally married to someone else

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2011 05:54 AM (1Jaio)

220 So, which way does the wave go now? Release all other documents? Or forget where he came from, what is he doing today?

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 05:54 AM (nLQvb)

221 @stevebruskCNN: Obama says we're not going to be able to solve our issues if we're distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers   @WaPo: Obama: "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 05:55 AM (170sK)

222 @jmartpolitico: Obama in full media critic mode. Couldn't break thru on budget, he concedes, bc of media birther fever

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 05:56 AM (170sK)

223 Hmmm... not not go all Jim Garrison on ya, but I just tried to copy the image directly from the pdf in Adobe Reader to post it for folks that can't seem to find it.

Well, all the text went to white-out -- except for the signatures.

Back -- and to the left....




Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 05:56 AM (UB58p)

224 In 1961, the child's father's race of Barak Obama was designated "Negro" not "African".

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 05:58 AM (H+LJc)

225 I've been busy with real life the last few days so I don't know if this has been posted already but for the NBG eagle cam fans the eaglets are being removed from the nest starting at 10 am EDT this morning. They will be relocated to the Wildlife Center of Virginia. The removal is because the mother was killed yesterday, struck by a plane at Norfolk Regional Airport.

The live cam will run during the removal, with commentary by NBG staff.

Posted by: Retread at April 27, 2011 05:58 AM (okCHU)

226 #100 I think so too.....I'm gonna run my credit cards up.

Um... we weren't already supposed to be doing that?

Posted by: jwpaine at April 27, 2011 05:58 AM (FUozQ)

227

Looking at NRO's Tweet Tracker, it appears the MFM is none-too-pleased that Obama is blaming them for "distracting the public". It's always someone else's fault, you idiots! You would think they would know how he operates by now, but they want to believe he's better than that.  

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 05:58 AM (170sK)

228 197 188 What's going on with the left side of the form? Looks weird.
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Never photocopied from a big book before?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 09:32 AM (6fER6)

 

Sure, many times.  And the entire left side of the form did that disappearing into the center binding effect.  Here, it looks like a green safety paper frame was p-shopped around the smaller Certificate OLB that was copied out of a big book.  Have never seen that before.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2011 06:00 AM (XBM1t)

229 233 Bambi:  "Can't solve our problem is we're distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers." "We do not have time for this silliness...I do not have time for this silliness."

This cocksucker has time for 18 holes every other day though.

Posted by: Barbarian at April 27, 2011 06:00 AM (EL+OC)

230

Posted by: Tami

 

Yeah, I see them. Does anyone know what they mean? I can't tell if they're letters or numbers (I think I see a few 9's, a 0 and a 2, but they don't seem to correspond to anything on the form). Any nurses/doctors out there who have ever filled out a BC know?

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2011 06:01 AM (xMT+4)

231

Obama: "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do."

 

Like ignoring my own debt commission for instance. That's really important. And starting wars. And fucking up existing ones. And racking up frequent flier miles on Air Force One. And providing free EKGs to the people of New York by buzzing them with Air Force One. And turning Joe Biden loose on policy. Any policy....

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 06:01 AM (326rv)

232 When gas is $6 per gallon people will throw Ebola out even if he is the descendant of George and Marsha Washington.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:01 AM (nLQvb)

233

The pdf looks like the certificate was faxed to the White House and they, in their ham-fisted way, decided to add the cross-hatch pattern behind it.
As far as form and content (of the black portion), it looks right.

IÂ’m now more convinced that Obama was born in Hawaii than I am that OJ did it.

On the other side of this Â… all those court cases costing how many millions of dollars. The man has no sense of the value of a dollar because itÂ’s always somebody elseÂ’s dollar that he is spending.

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 06:01 AM (tvs2p)

234 by the way ... I'm yet to be convinced that OJ did it

Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 06:02 AM (tvs2p)

235 Should've had me do my thing all over this shit. Then there wouldn't be this sort of brouhaha.

Posted by: Lance Parkertip, Noted Notary Public at April 27, 2011 06:04 AM (Hiaja)

236

it appears the MFM is none-too-pleased that Obama is blaming them for "distracting the public". It's always someone else's fault, you idiots!

Poor babies don't realize that they are nothing but tools to him.  He does not care about them and will happily toss them under the bus whenever it suits him.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:05 AM (/JuKD)

237 Some red meat....or maybe at least, pink meat.

1961 Race Vital Stats does not list "African" as race category, yet the released BC does. 

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2011 06:05 AM (usvhr)

238 by the way ... I'm yet to be convinced that OJ did it Posted by: Neo at April 27, 2011 10:02 AM (tvs2p) It was the CIA.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:05 AM (nLQvb)

239 245 Sure, many times. And the entire left side of the form did that disappearing into the center binding effect. Here, it looks like a green safety paper frame was p-shopped around the smaller Certificate OLB that was copied out of a big book. Have never seen that before.
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Short book, tall paper.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 06:07 AM (6fER6)

240 Some red meat....or maybe at least, pink meat. 1961 Race Vital Stats does not list "African" as race category, yet the released BC does. Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2011 10:05 AM (usvhr) The Libs will Race Card that like crazy.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:07 AM (nLQvb)

241 I guess we can all give the BC thing a rest now, right? It seems seems that for some, there will never be proof enough that he was born in the US. Unless someone definitively proves that this was a forgery, I'm good with this. Now, can we get on with making sure he's out on his a** in 2013? Gotta hand it to the Donald. Now all we need to see are his transcripts, and then the Donald can go back to what he was doing and leave the GOP alone. I got to the transcripts thread too late to comment (as usual). Not that anyone asked, but my $0.02 is that Barry's IQ is somewhat above average but not exceptional by any means or even close. Still doesn't prevent him from being dumb as a sack of pebbles when it comes to practical matters. I can see how he could have held off showing the BC to bait people, but I'm almost sure the transcripts show just OK or only slightly above average grades at best. Otherwise, they would be trumpeted all over the place as yet more evidence of his superb geniusry (actually the only evidence we would have whatsoever, but the MBM won't point that out. Based on the habits he displays today, I seriously doubt he was a hard worker or took the nitty gritty work seriously. I know I wouldn't mind anyone releasing my college or grad school grades or SAT or GRE scores or high school or elementary school or nursery school grades. I might demurely protest slightly for reasons of modesty while smiling to myself. I can confidently say that the majority of commenting 'rons and 'ettes here have higher IQs than Barry.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 27, 2011 06:07 AM (sG+Bw)

242 It'll be easier for him to blow off calls for his transcripts now.

Posted by: rdbrewer at April 27, 2011 06:07 AM (8bdLZ)

243 Here, it looks like a green safety paper frame was p-shopped around the smaller Certificate OLB that was copied out of a big book.  Have never seen that before.
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2011 10:00 AM (XBM1t)

Same thought here. There's something a little too neat about this, for it not to have been provided long before.

And what was the 2mil spent defending exactly?

Posted by: ontherocks at April 27, 2011 06:08 AM (HBqDo)

244 Re Obama's "long form birth certificate release". Right on top, in bold letters, the form states "certificate of live birth". So, aren't we back to square one?

Posted by: free at April 27, 2011 06:08 AM (dhVP+)

245 Obama: "We do not have time for this kind of silliness. We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do." ----------------------------------------------- "C'mon guys. I'm trying to get up and down in two." ~~ BHO

Posted by: Martin B. at April 27, 2011 06:09 AM (7bRCJ)

246

does not list "African" as race category, yet the released BC does. 

Heh.  Figures they'd take PC over historical accuracy.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:09 AM (/JuKD)

247

"Can't solve our problem is we're distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers." "We do not have time for this silliness...I do not have time for this silliness."

Then why did You make this an issue  Mr President. silliness aye, You personally played  the American people as  a joke.

 not very presidential.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:10 AM (h+qn8)

248 260 It'll be easier for him to blow off calls for his transcripts now.
Maybe, maybe not. He just set the precedent of releasing previously unreleased documents to avoid "distractions". So what happens if the transcript requests take the place of the BC in the media? He'll be obligated to stem the "distractions" again.

Posted by: Lincolntf at April 27, 2011 06:10 AM (xMT+4)

249

And what was the 2mil spent defending exactly?

His right to do whatever the hell he wants.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:10 AM (/JuKD)

250 @jimgeraghty birthers distracting us frm talking about obama's anti-ryan distraction speech, distracting us from lack serious budget plan     "We do not have time for this kind of silliness," declared President Brackets, before heading to 3 fundraisers. http://bit.ly/hVjPZH

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 06:10 AM (170sK)

251 And what was the 2mil spent defending exactly? Posted by: ontherocks at April 27, 2011 10:08 AM (HBqDo) It was bait.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:11 AM (nLQvb)

252 We do not have time for this kind of silliness.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. Back to partying with Usher and Beyonce, and giving shout-outs to basketball players, huh, Mr. "Too Busy For Silliness"? Fucking cocksucking lying asshole.

Posted by: Waterhouse at April 27, 2011 06:12 AM (Hiaja)

253 Formatting isn't working for me. Spaced 3 lines and it strung the text together.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby's at April 27, 2011 06:12 AM (170sK)

254
@255

Also no birth weight recorded.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at April 27, 2011 06:12 AM (UB58p)

255

 the long form had been destroyed when Hawaii went digital. 

and yeah I know the Left. I remember that excuse too. How great our media information DEALERS are.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:13 AM (h+qn8)

256 Some red meat....or maybe at least, pink meat. 1961 Race Vital Stats does not list "African" as race category, yet the released BC does. Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2011 10:05 AM (usvhr) That looks like a general review of US Law. IT might not be the best source. What is said in HI law?

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:13 AM (nLQvb)

257

 this was all a point and laugh at the american people time for Obama and crew.

classsssssay. not

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:14 AM (h+qn8)

258 Wait, someone should feed Trump a list of other stuff we want to know about Barry that are under lock and key so he can raise a stink about it before he (the Donald) is mysteriously but lovingly kidnapped and kept away until the GOP primaries are over. Again, gotta hand it to the Toupe for most likely putting a wrench in Obama's plans to spring the BC at the best time to make Republicans look silly.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 27, 2011 06:15 AM (sG+Bw)

259 same president that flips the birs at others.  impressive isn't it.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:15 AM (h+qn8)

260 It's the economy, stupid.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:16 AM (nLQvb)

261

I don't think Trump is finished hounding Obama.  Pass the popcorn, please.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:16 AM (/JuKD)

262 soooo, i wonder what's planned this month that we needed to have this new distraction to keep us occupied.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:16 AM (h+qn8)

263 @260
I don't see how this changes anything with regards to the academic records.

(Although I am in the minority in that I don't think it's worth pushing.)

Posted by: Y-not at April 27, 2011 06:17 AM (pW2o8)

264 is there any new legislation trying to being shoved through?

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:17 AM (h+qn8)

265 Some red meat....or maybe at least, pink meat.

1961 Race Vital Stats does not list "African" as race category, yet the released BC does.

Posted by: Lady in Black at April 27, 2011 10:05 AM (usvhr)

If you google the Nordyke twins (who were born a day after Obama at the same hospital) you can see that the parent's race is listed as 'Caucasian', which, according to your link should have said 'white'.  I think they took the self-identifying description and used that.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2011 06:18 AM (VuLos)

266 At least they were smart enough not to use default Microsoft Word settings.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:18 AM (nLQvb)

267

soooo, i wonder what's planned this month that we needed to have this new distraction to keep us occupied.

Astronomical gas prices.  Still. 

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:19 AM (/JuKD)

268 The Hawaiian Longbow stamp is missing.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:20 AM (nLQvb)

269

Easier than what?  He never intended to release them, so I don't think that ball can be moved back any further.  I think it goes the other way; once releases start, it's hard to argue against further ones that are germane to the discussion - as his transcripts (and passport/visa documentation) is.

Shit, Presidential biographers usually demand all of this stuff, and everyone knows it.  One would think, especially for the only guy who was actually raised in a foreign nation, as a foreigner and a muslim, that this information would be among the most important for anyone trying to write the biography of this retard.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 27, 2011 10:12 AM (G/MYk)

Plus pissing on his MFM toadies doesn't do much to encourage them to carry Hussein's water for him going forward, since they were complicit in this obfuscation being allowed to exist unchallenged as long as it had.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2011 06:21 AM (vEVry)

270 283, I'm for anything that disrupts this idiots game.  And he should have to release this stuff just because he should.  The POTUS gets a free pass on nothing.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:21 AM (/JuKD)

271

Plus pissing on his MFM toadies doesn't do much to encourage them to carry Hussein's water for him

I think they will always cover for him no matter what, because that's what true believers do for their god.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 06:23 AM (/JuKD)

272

hell i thought He would wait to release it until about a month before next elections so He could say, see I'm transperant , you aksed I answered.

Posted by: willow at April 27, 2011 06:24 AM (h+qn8)

273 Plus pissing on his MFM toadies doesn't do much to encourage them to carry Hussein's water for him I think they will always cover for him no matter what, because that's what true believers do for their god. Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 10:23 AM (/JuKD) Just like the Lefties who are bitching at Ebola about this and that. Every single one of them will vote for Ebola next year.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:25 AM (nLQvb)

274 Since some people are here, some are in the DOOM! thread, I will ask this question here too:

Iin June 6, 2009  Ms. Okubo the Secretary of Health for the State of Hawaii,,  officially acknowledged that it no longer maintains hard copy records of original "Certificates of Live Birth" as part of its officially authorized records documentation, verification, and creation process.



So how does a form located only on a computer, get photocopied out of a book?

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 06:28 AM (penCf)

275 Just like the Lefties who are bitching at Ebola about this and that.

Every single one of them will vote for Ebola next year.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team

 

Agreed. Unless a Dem challenger emerges, and shows signs of success, they will remain servile. If one does emerge, then we might be in for a popcorn worthy event.

Posted by: Blue Hen at April 27, 2011 06:28 AM (326rv)

276

I think they will always cover for him no matter what, because that's what true believers do for their god.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at April 27, 2011 10:23 AM (/JuKD)

I can't argue with that but they won't do it with as much enthusiasm.  Plus sooner or later they have to wake up to the fact that people are increasingly tuning them out; the size of my local fishwrap has shrunk to the size that parakeet owners have to make sure their birds don't have diarrhea.  I think some individuals, who haven't had all personal initiative leached out of them, will start figuring out that there's fertile territory in taking on this glass-jawed, thin-skinned imbecile.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 27, 2011 06:28 AM (vEVry)

277 Really? NRO has People Mag-like articles about Kate's fashion and how the couple can live happily ever after. Really? Who cares? I mean, I wish them the best, but I wish other people who are getting married the best. Ugh.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 27, 2011 06:30 AM (sG+Bw)

278 Really? NRO has People Mag-like articles about Kate's fashion and how the couple can live happily ever after. Really? Who cares? I mean, I wish them the best, but I wish other people who are getting married the best. Ugh.

Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 27, 2011 10:30 AM (sG+Bw)


Does anyone here watch The Middle?  Funniest episode was the one about her wanting to see the wedding.

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 06:32 AM (penCf)

Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 06:34 AM (penCf)

280 Really? NRO has People Mag-like articles about Kate's fashion and how the couple can live happily ever after. Really? Who cares? I mean, I wish them the best, but I wish other people who are getting married the best. Ugh. Posted by: chique d'afrique (the artist formerly known as african chick) at April 27, 2011 10:30 AM (sG+Bw) Recall who was not invited to the wedding.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at April 27, 2011 06:35 AM (nLQvb)

281 298 Really? NRO has People Mag-like articles about Kate's fashion and how the couple can live happily ever after. Really? Who cares? I mean, I wish them the best, but I wish other people who are getting married the best. Ugh.
__________

Could be worse. Fox News could be upending their entire nighttime schedule to bring us news from Britain in an attempt to whip us up in a frenzy for the wedding.

Oh, wait. Yeah, that's happening. Tried to watch Red Eye last night and got an eyeful of Sky News instead.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2011 06:35 AM (6fER6)

282

It was Ace, not The Donald who forced the issue of The Flapping Wrist's BC. It still lacks some information as mine, such as "married" and vital stats like birthweight. I am sure experts are looking at this right now (see: Rathergate). Note, too, it was only certified two days ago. Whatever.

He still needs to release transcripts, grades and classes he took, employment record and what he did as an attorney and why he gave up his license (maybe that was discussed in past), health records as president, etc.

Plus, the LA Times needs to release the videotape of a 2003 banquet honoring Rashid Khalidi, a leading Palestinian activist and scholar and professor of Arab Studies at Columbia, and former spokesman for the PLO. At the dinner, Obama spoke of their friendship and how much he had learned from him. [Bring it on]

Posted by: ChristyBlinky at April 27, 2011 06:37 AM (FnRYN)

283 Re Obama's "long form birth certificate release". Right on top, in bold letters, the form states "certificate of live birth".

So, aren't we back to square one? Posted by: free

In June 6, 2009  Ms. Okubo the Secretary of Health for the State of Hawaii,,  officially acknowledged that it no longer maintains hard copy records of original "Certificates of Live Birth" as part of its officially authorized records documentation, verification, and creation process.

So how does a form located only on a computer, get photocopied out of a book? Posted by: momma aka 57 states

Posted by: by any other name at April 27, 2011 06:38 AM (H+LJc)

284 So the CiC wasted all of this time and money on Kabuki Theater in an effort to embarrass people for following up on normal procedure that he decided was too silly for him?

Isn't this the same gink that bows to kings and emperors?

All that this proves is that one of his goals is to undermine anything traditionally American for some perverted sense of justice or his own ego, or both. And that would only prove him supremely un-American.

Posted by: ontherocks at April 27, 2011 06:38 AM (HBqDo)

285 So how does a form located only on a computer, get photocopied out of a book?
Posted by: momma aka 57 states at April 27, 2011 10:28 AM (penCf)

It's a new form of cutting edge technology called The Smelly Rat Processor.

Posted by: ontherocks at April 27, 2011 06:42 AM (HBqDo)

286 Panetta to SecDef

Les Aspin II

Posted by: toby928™ at April 27, 2011 06:42 AM (GTbGH)

287 Panetta to SecDef

Les Aspin II

Posted by: nickless at April 27, 2011 08:58 AM (MMC8r)


Whoa. 

Posted by: toby928™ at April 27, 2011 06:43 AM (GTbGH)

288 So how does a form located only on a computer, get photocopied out of a book? Posted by: momma aka 57 states

The original was probably scanned in, not necessarily re-entered as a digital record.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at April 27, 2011 06:51 AM (LFiVW)

289
West/Palin

heads exploding
west Palin that's the ticket
so bring out yer dead

Posted by: sTevo at April 27, 2011 07:22 AM (6ZBmw)

290

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