1 Integrative Complexity is the devil's 25-in-1 tool rest and jacking vise!

2

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Anyone have any background/experience in computer graphics imaging?? Watch this youtube video about Ogabe's BC and tell me what you think.

Could it be fake?? I want to believe.

 

3 http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20058190-503544.html UN won't even condemn slaughter of hundreds of civilians in Syria.

4 That Eisenhower guy was a great president.

5 AP reporting death toll in storms in South has risen to 173.

128 killed in Alabama alone.

6 #2  There's a lot of hinky stuff about that document.  There is some coding embedded in it that is weird as well.

I suppose that will be ignored,  as the press desperately wants the issue gone.

7 http://tinyurl.com/3wxqrzx Libyan doctor says yet another FUBAR NATO airstrike killed 12 rebels

8 http://tinyurl.com/3wjjsod Sarah Palin on Katie Couric's CBS exit: "I think I read that in a newspaper, one of many newspapers that I read online," Palin said. "Yes, and I hear that she wants to now engage in more multidimensional storytelling versus, I guess, just the straight-on read into that teleprompter screen storytelling. So more power to her. I wish her well with her multidimensional storytelling."

9 A Vegas blackjack dealer uses 8 decks of cards. That's 416 cards. So, if Whoopie plays a card now and then, she's got some to spare.

10 Re the kung-fu fighting story in the side bar, I have to say that was my breaking point on the UK situation.  I hope that place gets nuked into oblivion.  It has become the culmination of Leftist social policy taken to its logical conclusion.  It shouldn't even be called England any more - those people are NOT Englishmen in any real sense.  That culture died out.  It's unfortunate we can't re-location the great sculptural and architectural monuments representing their past glory - they should be preserved as a reminder of what a truly great culture can accomplish.  Their current, degraded state can serve only as a warning of what happens when you allow evil to corrupt and errode the culture.

11 ABC News seeks to destroy Donald Trump: http://tinyurl.com/3ux7bmy Donald Trump's Labels Often State 'Made in China'

12 NRO had a good piece on the amateur document sleuthing going on with the BC. There is no shortage of issues to attack Obama on. Perseverating on this is stupid.

13
To be a buzz word,  needs a third word.

I would go with Integrative Complexity Syndrome.

14

Why did it take so long to release the birth certificate?

Do you know how hard it is to find a typewriter now days?

15 Integrative Complexity means never having to say you're a sorry waste of human skin. FIFY

16 The Preznit of the United States and his adoring allies in the press are rolling around in the mud with a backbencher.

Awesome

17 I, for one, believe we actually do have time for this silliness.

18 The best of England died in France and Belgium in WWI, and by the end of WWII, most of what was left was shell-shocked, 4F, or cowards.  They have allowed one of the great western cultures to give way to childish yobbism and the automatic kowtow to the "other", so long as the "other" contains no particle of belief in western civilization.  To hell with them.

19 I don't know why NRO is being so snippy about this.  Barry gets trashed.  Trump gets trashed.  You know how this benefits?  Every GOP candidate not named Trump, that's who.

20 #18 True, and they went full retard on socialism five minutes after Germany surrendered.

21

The guy in the video puts out some pretty complelling stuff...for an idiot like me. There's more at market-ticker.org.

Some over there put out pretty convincing stuff...again for an idiot like me...that it was actually assembled using one of the now-famous Nordyke twins BC as a template. They show where some of the HANDWRITTEN entries match up perfectly. i would like to see Charles Johnson do his toggle thingyon that.

The vid does an analysis/comparison of the AP version that waspassed out to what is on Ogabe's website. The discepancies cannot be seen on the AP version it is a scanned PDF of what is on the web site.

22 6 2  There's a lot of hinky stuff about that document.  There is some coding embedded in it that is weird as well. I suppose that will be ignored,  as the press desperately wants the issue gone. Posted by: Miss Marple at April 28, 2011 07:15 AM (Fo83G) I wouldn't put it past this WH to have deliberately hinkified tge image in order to keep the hardcore Birthers chasing yet another "lead" ("Squirrel!"). In the meantime, do none of you buy gasoline? Or food? Those comprise the petard on which this Administration need be hoisted - loudly, frequently and with great vigor.

23 There is no shortage of issues to attack Obama on. Perseverating on this is stupid.

Posted by: Andy at April 28, 2011 07:26 AM (veZ9n)

The NRO claims are being knocked down pretty easily. They are saying that OCR software is responsible for the layers. Not true. OCR deals with individual characters...not fields.

 

24
#21 re:#18
True, and they went full retard on socialism five minutes after Germany surrendered.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 28, 2011 07:44 AM (oDMwn)

Well there was all that inherited wealth laying about.

25
24
Yes, and what I learned from progressives, NEVER give up on an issue. No matter how petty.

26 12 "NRO had a good piece on the amateur document sleuthing going on with the BC.

There is no shortage of issues to attack Obama on. Perseverating on this is stupid."

It's only been like 12 hours since it was released.  Get the feeling the story was pre-written?

27 The one thing that usually bothers me as I am dismissing the more radical birther claims is that I am doing so on the basis of "well, not even Obama and his lackeys could be that shamelessly and suicidally stupid, could they?"

Obama and friends have really moved the Overton Window on shameless, suicidal and stupid.

28 Attn: mods

The comment formatting within the "James Pethokoukis: Here's Why Ryan May Run" story is borked due to a spammer screwing up the page width.

29

Posted by: Andy at April 28, 2011 07:26 AM (veZ9n)

NRO seemed in a hurry to dismiss this. Take a look at what various individuals have laid out here after the in-depth and painstaking analysis by NRO /sarc

I really was ready to let it go, but bthen I was pointed to this stuff. Just take a look

30

Raising Product Prices Is a Margin Call

Next time you go to buy toilet paper and can't afford it- thank Obama.

He will probably tell you to go green and use leaves anyway.

31 More holes in the Cert of Live Birth charade at AT. I still smell a rat, a big fucking rat.

32 No offense intended, but the Catholic church is obviously racist. 

Catholic church removes ‘his funkiness’.

33 #23 The gasoline thing is a big deal to the working poor.  My daughter and I were talking about this last night.  If you are working a $12/hour job and commuting 50 miles one way from a small town outside of Indianapolis,  $150/week for gasoline will eat up a fairly large share of your paycheck.

We have a lot of people who drive into Indianapolis from small towns in the surrounding counties.  In Indiana it is not unusual to have a 40 mile commute.  We do not have much of a public transportation system available (no trains,  for example) and buses don't run out that far.

This is going to cripple the economy is short order.

34 #33, that mutt should have been defrocked years ago.  What a p.o.s.

35 Isn't the Church trying to move him out of his parish church to run a parochial school?  Yeah, give that mutt a building full of children to indoctrinate...that's the solution. *facepalm*

36 I looked at the first one and it had some problems.
This one doesn't even need to put into photoshop to see that it has been altered.

With that said, what are you gonna do about it?
Nothing is gonna be done about it because neither your or I have the power to do anything about.
Even if it was proved beyond any doubt that he was not born here, he is not going to be removed from office.
No one in the government cares, not the politicians not the supreme court no one cares.

The only way to remove the guy is by the only power we as citizens have and thats our vote.

Lets hope we still have the ability to vote by 2012

37 This is truly a great read for me. I have bookmarked it and I am looking forward to reading new articles.
Keep up the good work.
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38

Some of you will take exception, but we need to send the U.N. more money.  Obviously, the money we are sending now sure the hellÂ’s not working.

39 Is it pronounced "in-TEH-gruh-tiv" or "in-teh-GRATE-tiv?"

40 37Isn't the Church trying to move him out of his parish church to run a parochial school? Yeah, give that mutt a building full of children to indoctrinate...that's the solution. *facepalm*

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 28, 2011 08:00 AM (oDMwn)

Evidently, he didn't want to run a school.  He needed to rail against the injustices visited upon him and all of the other black priests by the 'white man' or whities as he lovingly referred to them.

41 I read that market ticker thing yesterday. Karl really, really wants the BC to be fake, so it is. You know what's not fake? High unemployment, rising inflation, gas heading to 5 bucks a gallon over the summer, etc. All of which are directly traceable to failed Obama policies. Stay on target!

42

As their great patriotic song says: “Fail Brittania”

Under normal circumstances, back in the days of wooden ships and iron men, this would have embarrassed them.  Today – not so much.

43 #42 Upon further review, maybe he was afraid the children would not be as credulous as the drones from his parish.

44
Stay on target!

Posted by: Andy at April 28, 2011 08:08 AM

Don't worry.  We've got our rodeo clown handling that issue with all the solemnity and dignity it deserves.  Just chuckle and enjoy the spectacle.

45 Ms Gillard and Mr Hu yesterday moved to build greater military co-operation including livefire exercises at sea and Chinese warships dock in Australia.

Yesterday chief executives of a dozen of China's biggest resource buyers and investors joined Ms Gillard for lunch at the Australian embassy, where discussion focused on economics, investment and the resource trade. Ms Gillard said the gathering showed strong interest in building rail and port infrastructure necessary to get Australian mining investments off the ground. They also raised concerns about skills shortages at mines under construction, and red tape at the state level and at the Foreign Investment Review Board.

/Just brilliant, Australia's need for Chinese military enforcement of imported required Chinese infrastructure. Have Australians revised history lessons to reflect that had they made these arrangements with the Japanese, they'd have avoided the pain of WWII? "Never again?"/

46 If the birthers don't drop the bc issue at this point, they will prove that what Obama kept saying - about them not believing ANYTHING he EVER released, so why bother? - was right all along.

They really need to drop this issue now.

47 I am a birther by rhetoric, I like to watch libs seethe at the accusation. I think the polling (if it is remotely accurate) does not take into account those of us that like it for sport.

Notice how the MSM never discussed the lefts rejection of the Supreme Courts decision of bush v. gore.

I can't imagine anyone that cannot beat Obama in 12, but if he wins, we have truly lost the ship as the right has never been this animated and energized.

48

I read that market ticker thing yesterday. Karl really, really wants the BC to be fake, so it is.

You know what's not fake? High unemployment, rising inflation, gas heading to 5 bucks a gallon over the summer, etc. All of which are directly traceable to failed Obama policies.

Stay on target!

Posted by: Andy at April 28, 2011 08:08 AM (veZ9n)

Did you read the entries from last night? Basing your dismissiveness on the NRO piece is off-base. to say the least. In the first line, they say their analyses were done only on the PDF that was released. Go look at the video where they compare that to the actual electronic file of the BC on the WH.gov site.

The discrepancies will not show up on a printed PDF

Again, I am in idiot in these matters. If what the people at market-ticker are showing can be knocked down..well someone should step forward and knock it down,

"Because, shut up is why" never does work for me.

 

49 I hope all my fellow Ohio morons appreciated this blast from John Kasich after Preznit Dicknose opened his illiterate Kools-hole about Ohio SB5 in a puffball fellatio-fest interview with local shillgirl Ramona Robinson:  "The president of the United States has, I think, a $13 trillion debt. Why doesn't he do his job?" Kasich said. "When he gets our budget balanced and starts to prepare a future for our children, maybe he can have an opinion on what's going on in Ohio."

50

Look.  You donÂ’t really want to watch this.  Really.  Really!

The headline is more than enough. 

You know.  At some point, enough should be enough, but it isnÂ’t.  Why is that?  What the fuck is wrong with the world that they canÂ’t see the rot of islam for what it is?

51

Don't worry.  We've got our rodeo clown handling that issue with all the solemnity and dignity it deserves.  Just chuckle and enjoy the spectacle.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 28, 2011 08:12 AM (oDMwn)

Hmmm...another expert chimes in.

52 To my mind,  the entire value of the birth certificate, grades, medical records, etc. is in destroying his narrative.  He knows that in his pea brain,  which is why he is talking about it over and over like a maniac.  He is still convinced his speaking talents trump everything,  so he just keeps talking, reinforcing the idea that there is something shady there.

The more he acts like this,  the more people will wonder.  That ought to be good for a percentage point or two.

The gas prices and food prices are more destructive to him.  His plan is basically NO plan ("there is no silver bullet") and this should be pointed out at every opportunity.

53 Poke and prod, poke and prod.
Lets see if we can make them mad enough to do something stupid.

54

173 dead in southern storms.  And not a word from the president.

Why does Bush hate southerners?  Why!!?

55 <blockquote>43 I read that market ticker thing yesterday. Karl really, really wants the BC to be fake, so it is.

You know what's not fake? High unemployment, rising inflation, gas heading to 5 bucks a gallon over the summer, etc. All of which are directly traceable to failed Obama policies.

Stay on target! </blockquote>
This was never about the "long-form" bc.  At this point in time, pride won't let the birfers accept defeat.  The only reason barry released the damn thing now is because he was losing independents on this issue. 

I think in some small phantasmagorical way, the birther crowd envisions a nixonian type event whereby they'll cart him out of the WH in handcuffs.  All based on a technicality. 

56

Under normal circumstances, I would point out the irony in this headline, but I decided who knows, maybe they’re taking the indirect route toward “healing the planet”.

57 To my mind,  the entire value of the birth certificate, grades, medical records, etc. is in destroying his narrative.

This is what Tammy Bruce was concentrating on yesterday; the value of Trump is that he won't be deterred from changing the narrative.  The squishballs that Repuke central trots off to face questions from dimwits like Mika and the rest of the Morning Schmoes, end up on the defensive and can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag.  Trump says "Fuck that shit; I'll talk about what I want to" because he's a fucking alpha dog and the declared Repubs are a bunch of beta bitches.

58 Integrative Complexity mean never having to say, "I was wr-r-r-r"

"I was wr-r-r-r"

"I was wr-r-r-r"

59 Rules for Radicals. 7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. 8. Keep the pressure on with different tactics and actions, and use all the events of the period for your purpose. The BC kerfuffle served it's purpose, it got Barry to blink and prove he can be rolled. Time to moveon.org to other issues such as his transcripts, how is it that there is nobody from his school years seems to remember him (save Bill Ayers), etc. The economy is also going to provide us a multitude of things to ding The One with over the next 2 years. This is what Barry and team have been doing to us for the last couple years. Hammering away on an issue until they drew blood and then moving on to the next to keep the pressure on while never allowing any one topic to derail their goal of winning.

60 FIRST TIME UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS:  429,000

Unexpected, etc.

61 @56: that is all true.  Obama SHOULD have released that certificate years ago and it's legitimate to criticize him for waiting so long to do it.  But now that he HAS released it... it's quite simply time to accept that his citizenship is a non-issue.

62

I still smell a rat, a big fucking rat.

Yeah, I said that the minute it came out.  This is 100% dirty.

63 This just in:  Robert Gibbs is a Loser.

64 Posted by: Miss Marple at April 28, 2011 08:33 AM (Fo83G)

Couple those jobs numbers with robust 1.8% growth, and you've got the makings of a real Summer of Recovery.  Oh, wait ....

65 32 More holes in the Cert of Live Birth charade at AT. I still smell a rat, a big fucking rat.
Posted by: Spelling King Bee Sammy at April 28, 2011 07:53 AM (VMcEw)

Make sure that you check out the links in comments 4 & 5 by WhiteKnight and Country Boy in the same piece as they separate the overlays.

 At leas one vid debunking the BC has already been removed from YouTube

I agree with others that want to keep Odumdum on the defensive where he can't do the regular attacking of the community agitator, but instead has to make declarative statements about himself and who he is. It's good to get as much on record as possible even if it's only that he doesn't have time for this silliness as he hurries to fly to Orca's couch.

66 Eric the Fox Business guy said the administration expected numbers in the 300,000 range.

Obviously,  they are incompetent.

Evil and malicious and tacky as well,  but in economics,  definitely incompetent.

67

If the birthers don't drop the bc issue at this point, they will prove that what Obama kept saying - about them not believing ANYTHING he EVER released, so why bother? - was right all along.

They really need to drop this issue now.
Posted by: CoolCzech at April 28, 2011 08:15 AM (kUaEF)

I am not a birther in the sense that I do not believe that Ogabe was born in HI. I always said I think he was. I'm a birther in the sense that I felt he had a requirement to release it...and was very suspiscious that he wouldn't because there was maybe something on it that went against the narrative and the myth that the MFing MBM created.

When the BC was released, I accepted it...UNTIL...I was pointed to the stuff at market-ticker and other sources. There are points they bring up that call into question the authenticity of the document that seem pretty convincing.

Again, if there are experts that can rebut them..let them be rebutted.

68

I think in some small phantasmagorical way, the birther crowd envisions a nixonian type event whereby they'll cart him out of the WH in handcuffs.  All based on a technicality. 

The fucking goddamned Constifuckingtution is not a fucking goddamned technicality.  When I find you, hunt you down, rip your limp dick off, shove it up your progressive asshole, and then choke the life out of you by shitting into your windpipe, that's a technicality.

What do you mean, "technicality?"

69 Evil and malicious and tacky as well, but in economics, definitely incompetent.

Posted by: Miss Marple at April 28, 2011 08:42 AM (Fo83G)

Hadn't you heard?  Incompetence is the new... eh... um...

something.

70 Incompetence is the new ... normal?

71 Meanwhile, please send as much money to Orly taitz and World Nut Daily so that we "defenders of the constitution" can ultimately get to the bottom of this?

The more $$$$, the better. 
???? Right folks?

I guess I missed the press conference where Bush and Cheney provided conclusive proof that they weren't behind the 9/11 attacks.   

72 You can't prove a negative.  You may or may not be able to prove your eligibility, but you can't serve without it.

73 I am certain zerO's BC is real and accurate. It its the only thing I've seen that is real about him. Time to beat another horse. After all, there is a whole stable full of them.

74

Jzaik, get your fucking head out of your fucking ass and stop using that degenerate pervert red diaper baby non-logic.  Your mother drank too much when you were in the womb and your father's nuts got mutated from all the goddamned bongwater he mainlined.  You are a fucking retard and a nutless monkey could do your job.  You should get down on your knees and swallow Soros' gravy for providing you with ladyboy money for the shitty, suboptimal trolling work you're pretending to do here.

You gutless commie.

75 10 Re the kung-fu fighting story in the side bar, I have to say that was my breaking point on the UK situation.  I hope that place gets nuked into oblivion.  It has become the culmination of Leftist social policy taken to its logical conclusion.  Posted by: Reactionary at April 28, 2011 07:25 AM (xUM1Q)   Hate to break it to you, but the People's Republic of Lower Canada is right behind. That Kung Fu fighting story could happen today in many states of the PRLC.

76 Actually, I have no strong feelings whatsoever for Jzaik.  I was just practicing my Internet swearing.

77 Couple those jobs numbers with robust 1.8% growth, and you've got the makings of a real Summer of Recovery.
Posted by: Blacksheep




Lucky for us that's there's no rapid inflation in food and oil prices. Hey.....

78 I am certain zerO's BC is real and accurate.
Posted by: maddogg at April 28, 2011 08:56 AM (OlN4e)

Well, well, well.  I guess you're also one of those "progressive" "Rino" Fucksticks who deserves to have his head torn off and his windpipe used as a toilet.  Just like myself. 

I guess I'm just going to take the hard route and argue the merits of his failed liberal policies.  You know, the substantive things. 

79 81 Actually, I have no strong feelings whatsoever for Jzaik.  I was just practicing my Internet swearing.

Internet tough guys.  Gotta love'm 

80 68 Couple those jobs numbers with robust 1.8% growth, and you've got the makings of a real Summer of Recovery.  Oh, wait .... Posted by: Blacksheep at April 28, 2011 08:40 AM (GUduV) 2009: You rolled in the aisles with glee brought to you by funemployment! 2010: You chortled nervously as the economy commenced recovering in Summer of Recovery (a Choo-Choo Production)! 2011: Prepare yourselves to be dazzled and delighted by the thigh-slapping, good time rock-n-rollin' of Summer of Recovery 2 - the recovery-est summer, evuh!!

81

OK, let me take a stab at why we ought to keep pushing this:

He's on defense.  When he's on defense, he can't go on offense.  When he's not on offense, he's not doing anything to win the next election.

As soon as Trump started talking about his college transcripts, he threw out a meaty bone:  this fake BC. While it will take a while to debunk again, in the meantime, we've learned something:  This rattles him and his team.

Keep pushing.  Keep making him explain how everyone who just wants to know about his past is a carnival barker.  People will begin to say, "why is he protesting so much?"

This isn't about winning votes, it's about keeping him from

1) winning votes and

2) fucking the country up with more stupid fucking ideas.

It's like int he old western cartoons when the banditos would shoot at Bugs Bunny's feet.  "Dance!" they would say.  He couldn't pull any of his shit on them if he was dodging bullets.

Keep him dancing.

82

Hmmm...another expert chimes in.

Posted by: beedubya at April 28, 2011 08:18 AM

You mistake my intent.  I don't want Trump as the nominee and don't want Obama re-elected, so it bothers me not at all if they both get damaged.

83

Posted by: Jzaik at April 28, 2011 09:03 AM (5WxMt)

I've flushed better shit than you, lowlife. Die in a fire.

84 Interesting find here,about Bernanke's presser--I read  several comments yesterday about how nervous Ben was, this is from the AP write-up, by Martin Crutzinger.

 It is a verbatim quote"Bernanke appeared relaxed with reporters, projecting a calming presence, and saying nothing that might rattle investors".

  Would this qualify as shaping the Narrative?

85 Epic take down Truman.

86

2011: Prepare yourselves to be dazzled and delighted by the thigh-slapping, good time rock-n-rollin' of Summer of Recovery 2 - the recovery-est summer, evuh!!

Damn, I was hoping for "Summer of Recovery 2 - Electric Boogaloo" staring Hulk Hogan

 

 

87 This isn't about some fantasy of Zero being frogmarched away in handcuffs or even his eligibility. It's about keeping the pressure on a grifting anti-American lightweight con man until he wilts or makes the amateurish error that finally convinces the majority that he's unfit. This clown can't handle heat.

The people from the Right that want this issue to go away are unwittingly doing the Left's bidding by proxy in trying to enforce Groupthink by using ridicule as their weapon.

They can worry for themselves over who looks ridiculous all that they want instead of using everything at their disposal to neuter a true enemy of our way of life that is wreaking "fundamental transformation" as we argue.
I'll think about how it looks later, but not because of the same old treasonous fucking media media narrative. 

88 Yeah, that sounds like a little editorializin' there to me.

89 I've flushed better shit than you, lowlife. Die in a fire.

Why would you say that to me?  I'm an elderly invalid with arthritis. 

That's just plain mean.  

90 From the Amazon link: "Most Midlands lawmakers supported the exemption, but opposition fanned by a coalition of small merchants, national retailers and Tea Party activists proved insurmountable, even as Misener came to lobby lawmakers Wednesday in a last-ditch bid to save the proposal." Seems kind of far afield from the tea party's usual turf.

91 Nixon had the decency and love of this nation to resign.  The Indonesian would never resign, precisely because all he really cares about is harming this nation.

I have this fantasy that his numbers are so irrecoverably low that in the middle of the campaign, say early summer 2012, he just quits. In fact, I think we ought to float this because (a) it is very likely, he's a selfish jerk and he'd screw his party just to avoid going on the record being defeated and (b) it would encourage other Democrats to run against him just to be the "second-place guy" to take over when he bolts.

Just a thought.

92 Can you say "depression" children? I knew you could.

93

Posted by: Jzaik at April 28, 2011 09:13 AM (5WxMt)

I'm just warming up dirt bag. Hang around and find the meaning of mean.

94

What reputation have I got to defend? What eltist connections have I got to maintain? I'm going to fucking punch this jugeared Indoesian fuck so hard in his vagina that Malia's future life partner will have to tell her to "ease up down there."

This is the weapon that's working now.  We use it.  When nobody cares anymore, we find something else to rape him with.

95 I guess I missed the press conference where Bush and Cheney provided conclusive proof that they weren't behind the 9/11 attacks.   
Posted by: Jzaik at April 28, 2011 08:54 AM (5WxMt)

I'm pretty sure it's archived back there somewhere. Go ahead and check it out, and take your fucking time.

96 WASHINGTON -- The economy slowed sharply in the first three months of the year as high gas prices cut into consumer spending, bad weather delayed construction projects and the federal government slashed defense spending by the most in six years.

97

97       

 Boy for a minute there I thought we were gonna have a tough time.       If it stops at depresson, hey I'm relieved

98

Hey, Jzaik, you should stop by for the flame wars.  We save our most vicious shit for each other!

99 Looks like Superman has had it with payin taxes to Uncle, and has renounced. Wonder where he's relocating?

100 #95 not really-sounds like the state and county were already giving Amazon a shit ton of incentives.  This might be just the sort of thing the Tea Party might get in on.

"Other critics called the exemption too much on top of a free site, property tax breaks on equipment, state job tax credits and abolition of longtime Sunday morning sales restrictions in Lexington County to facilitate AmazonÂ’s round-the-clock opposition."

101 One document is benign the other is a threat. You have to hide both. If you are pressured on it, you release the benign one and hope that's enough. It is not enough. Show us all the documents.

102 From the CNBC article regarding GDP growth:

Still, economists expect consumer spending to trend higher in the second quarter, mostly on the belief gasoline prices will not rise much above $4 a gallon on average.

Ironically, the labor market, which until recently had lagged the economic recovery that got under way in the second half of 2009, is seen underpinning growth in the coming quarters.

If this is what passes for critical thinking on this subject then I really don't know what to say.  I mean, I would think it's self-evident that it's the $4 gas and skyrocketing food costs that's impeding increased consumer spending but apparently not.  It is apparently also not self-evident (though I can't imagine why) that there is no real job growth occurring; to the contrary, the BLS unemployment number is only coming down because the long-term unemployed are giving up and are no longer being counted (with Gallup's methodology telling the true story).  These "economists" may have to be relieved from duty.

103 OK, let me take a stab at why we ought to keep pushing this:

You're giving good arguments to push for the transcripts.  Look, when the BC was hidden, we had a falsifiable hypothesis: He had something to hide in his records and that's why he didn't release them.  Now we're in a situation where, if Obama were actually honest (I know, I know) he couldn't possibly disprove the assertions.

This is a case now in which there is no falsifiable hypothesis. Even if the BC were manipulated, there would be no way to prove that it was not.

We asked that he showed it and he showed it.

And best of all, he only did so because some "carnival barker" made some noise.  He made a tactical error here, but there aren't any more to make on this issue, time to push another one.

104 opposition = operation in the last line of the quote in #105

105 Integrative Complexity seems to have sprung from this study ...

The May 10 [2010] edition of the Harvard Business Review includes a post titled “Leading From Behind” about the impact of today’s economy on leadership styles. Author Linda Hill notes that today’s successful leaders are those who are skilled at “harnessing people’s collective genius.”

I find it hard to believe that a President, who managed not to ever meet individually with some of his Cabinet members during his first two years, is worried about harnessing their collective genius.

106 Second paragraph should have also been italicized ^^

107 Author Linda Hill should just stick with making sculptures out of her own boogers.

108 Booger sculptures?  There's an app for that.

109

April 28 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. economy grew at a slower pace than forecast in the first quarter as government spending declined by the most since 1983.

See comrades those EVIL Republicans want to destroy jobs by cutting government spending. And how in the fuck do they figure that government spending declined?

 

“We’ve sputtered a bit here, especially coming off a relatively strong fourth quarter,” said Sam Bullard, a senior economist at Wells Fargo Securities LLC in Charlotte, North Carolina, who accurately forecast first-quarter growth. Even with the higher costs for fuel and food, “consumers are going to continue to spend. Growth should pick up toward the 3 percent level” later this year, he said.

 

Sammy must be one of the "experts" who is surprised every time unemployment goes up

 

110

Hey, this isn't news, it's opinion, and it's not really on topic in any case:

I think tax credits are immoral.

111 Cool. The newspaper linked to in the sidebar about Irate MA Unions is the paper I used to deliver when I was a youngster. Both the "Evening Gazette" and the "Sunday Telegram". I never messed with the daily AM route.

112 112 Author Linda Hill should just stick with making sculptures out of her own boogers.

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at April 28, 2011 09:24 AM (oDMwn)

Reminds me of my favorite cartoon; Ren & Stempy

113 I can't imagine anyone that cannot beat Obama in 12, but if he wins, we have truly lost the ship as the right has never been this animated and energized.
Posted by: Grover

The battle requires an alliance of all who oppose Obama in order to secure a victory.

Of that alliance, bear in mind the running joke that a heretic is someone who believes as you do except on one point.

On record of the vying portions within those who would oppose Obama, recall how the neoconservatives (who advertise the "Big Tent" for suckers to enter) invariably attack the Tea Party movement for not submitting to the elite that presume to be our "betters" (while those elitists exercise authoritarianism and unscrupulous spending of tax funds).

The Republican Leadership eschews the Tea Party movement agenda and candidates, a realization that Mark Steyn made obvious.

The National '10 Election campaign tactics are yet fresh in mind. The cacophonous vocabulary, "electable, bi-partisan, reach-across-the-aisle, RINO, corrupt establishment, unresponsive leadership, sold-out," are pale compared to the attacks "Truther, Birther". Aside from exaggerations applied in order to vilify Tea Party candidates, the worst thing about Republican primaries and Republican victories is the neoconservative parasitic destruction of the Constitution and American citizens who uphold and protect the Constitution.

Case in point is Debra Medina whose Tea Party platform was soaring in Texas voter popularity, posing a real threat to Rick Perry's "historic" re-election.

Medina's agenda was solid, and her thorough preparations and knowledge of Texas Laws, precedences, policy and practices exposed Perry the fool and liar in debate. Of course, Perry counter-attacked by smearing Medina dishonestly. Her "sin"? When asked, she acknowledged those who doubt the Federal 9/11 Report. How could she allow others that unpopular opinion? Because the 9/11 Commission Chairman and Members had discredited their own official Report after the fact when the federal witnesses admitted they'd lied under oath, ordered to give false testimony for the report -- NOT blaming the government for planning 9/11 necessarily, but certainly blaming federal authorities for coercing false testimony to cover-up response flaws. But of course, websites like this and HotAir fell into political assassination lockstep with the MSM attacking Medina as a crazy radical "truther", failing to acknowledge her own qualified personal convictions and public statements on that subject (which had nothing to do with her agenda for Texas as Governor), and most certainly failing to acknowledge Medina's constitutional platform for limited government and lower taxation. That Medina was a grassroots constitutional conservative in a position to threaten the corrupt kickback Perry simply was not acceptable to the globalists running the Republican Party. Perry denies private property rights, awards contracts to foreign firms rather than local firms, a practice that hurts our local economy while trumping economic growth (growth for foreign industry given tax breaks, salt in Texas TAXPAYING businesses and residents' wounds). Kickback Perry issued health threatening executive orders "with good intentions" that the Legislature had to waste time responding with the public outcry "NO!" Authoritarian Perry trumped up a false alarm in order to destabilize an "undesirable population" by effectively kidnapping all non-adults from their homes given no communications whatsoever with their parents and siblings, though CPS did not have the facilities to provide for the hundreds of children "absorbed" by the State system that utterly failed to provide even sanitary conditions, let alone emotional support for the babies and youth taken by force to re-education centers. Gov. Perry has failed to present a formal front supporting victims of Muslim terrorism, specifically the Texas civilians murdered by Hassan, let alone doing anything to protect the legal rights of civilians employed near and within military complexes who are victims of Jihadists. These are simply highlights resulting from the successful vilification of the Tea Party movement in Texas, Perry acting as if a Tea Partier, whoopin' up "Secession!" at the rally, then attributing that as if a Tea Party agenda item, leaving Medina to discredit the lie, to no avail because media pundits assumed to know better. And this week, The Tatler Brian Preston vaunts Rick Perry for POTUS, as if an inevitable anticipation to "save" Perry's insider Republican Party.

114 Just saw Reince Preibus on CNN. He was slamming Obama on the economy as much as he could, but the scrunt interviewing him kept asking about Trump. She said that the RNC has a "responsibilty"  to tell the truth about the BC. I would have asked her if tghe DNC had a responsibilty to correct the truthers, but he just kept going back to the economy. Which is fine by me.

115 This just in from Fox News: Royals occasionally put cardboard boxes in cars.

116 Barky was unfazed.  He likes looking the fool (which he can't help, anyway) since it reflects poorly on the US and the office of the Presidency.

Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 28, 2011 09:28 AM (G/MYk)

He loves being the center of attention; he'll keep this issue alive by whining about it all the time.  It will appeal to between a quarter and third of the electorate that hate the country anyway but the people that don't aren't going to find the poor me act of the Indonesian Imbecile very appealing.

117 Oh to be the future figurehead king of a failed Islamostate. I do not envy.

118 #120 I bet she knew how to use paragraphs too.

119 #116/#123  Just think of all the trouble we could have avoided if, instead of lunatic libtards, Obama had sprung forth from a family of carnies.  He would be in Poughkeepsie right now swordswallowing or driving a clown car.

120 #126 I'm sure Stanley Ann had a pretty good pole-swallowing act done for the benefit of plenty of moooslim aficionados.

121

From the Hot Air Superman defection thread:

The idea that liberalism must infect every aspect of our lives is repugnant. I read the explanation from Action but the idea of a Superman who is a mix of Howard Dean, Nancy Pelosi, and Barney Frank just isn’t Superman anymore. Why not just create a character called Doucheman and have him fight every traditional American idea possible. He could have a birth certificate showing he was a citizen of “the world” and participate in ghey pride parades.

He could overturn the will of the people in a single bound. He could be faster than Chuck Shumer to a press conference, more powerful than a busload of union protesters, and capable of finding the votes needed to overcome any Republican victory regardless of the margin.

His uniform would be made of Earth friendly fabrics and he would wear no deodorant other than pitchouli oil. His superpowers would actually be average powers so that he wouldnÂ’t offend anyone or remind them of their own shortcomings. He would seek out new ways to tax the rich in his eternal struggle for expediency, social justice, and the global way.

Mormon Doc on April 27, 2011

122 #127 "Have vagina, will travel."

123 @128: My question is:

How the HELL did liberals capture control of even our freaking comic superheros?  Just like the way they infested public education and universities.  EVERYTHING they touch reeks of anti-Americanism and rot.

124 #130 Urbanites drawing pictures to spin fantasy stories directed at children? 

125

This could be the conservative mirror to MarvelÂ’s terrible liberal Civil War.

Obama refuses to get involved in Iran, and that causes Superman to renounce being American. It was a jokey comment a few posts up but maybe the subtle point was that ObamaÂ’s inaction in something true to life does drive Superman away.

126 I missed the Petraerus yesterday. Somewhat surprised that no one questioned the Petraeus appointment really. In my opinion this just confirms my long held suspicion that Petraeus would identify himself as a Democrat. I do not believe in a second Obama would appoint someone to that position that was not sympathetic to his political viewpoints and that any military man that would give up his military position in favor of being part of an administration of the 'opposing' party. My original suspicions were based on his philosophy of warfare where frankly it seemed to give me a touchy feely vibe with a pinch of political correctness.

127 Is it pronounced "in-TEH-gruh-tiv" or "in-teh-GRATE-tiv?"

Believe the correct pronunciation is "Stuttering, brain dead, jackass".

128 Posted by: by any other name at April 28, 2011 09:31 AM (H+LJc)

Authoritarian Perry trumped up a false alarm in order to destabilize an "undesirable population" by effectively kidnapping all non-adults from their homes given no communications whatsoever with their parents and siblings, though CPS did not have the facilities to provide for the hundreds of children "absorbed" by the State system that utterly failed to provide even sanitary conditions, let alone emotional support for the babies and youth taken by force to re-education centers.

Links?

129 #135 I think he's talking about that bunch of polygamist weirdos.

130 @ In Indiana it is not unusual to have a 40 mile commute.  We do not have much of a public transportation system available (no trains,  for example) and buses don't run out that far.

This caught my eye.  Of course you're right about the public transport thing and the burden that high gas prices places on - let's face it - pretty much anyone living outside of Boston, NYC, Chicago, or other major urban centers.  But the thing that we should guard against is falling into the trap they've set of trains (or public transport) being the solution.  They aren't.  I think the liberals are trying to use this crisis to get the public used to saying "if only we had public transport." 

It's not a viable solution for working parents to rely on public transport when they have pre-school or young kids.  It's not good for families for people to increase their commute time and decrease their mobility by relying on commuter buses and trains.  My dad did that schtick into DC during the Carter years and it probably knocked five years off of his life and created a lot of stress at home. 

When we lived in Chicago we did not need a car.  It was fine.  We were young, we walked to work, and had no kids.  Later, in the Boston area, we had one car - which I used to commute out to a 'burb while the hubby took buses and trains into Cambridge.  That worked for us because again we didn't have kids and also because I had flexible working hours and the hubby's job was pretty 9 to 5. 

But even having lived that lifestyle I would never pretend - as so many liberals do - that it is for everyone.  In fact, I think it's a minority of adults who can live that way.  Libs are perfectly happy to tell others how to live, irrespective of the consequences.  Ironically, we've now become the "pro choice" party. 

131 Ironically, we've now become the "pro choice" party.

We've always been that.

132

Ironically, we've now become the "pro choice" party. 

Nothing ironic about it.  Outside of what you stick your body parts into and what you stick into your body, there's nothing choicey about liberalism.

133 Petraerus = Colin Powell.

134 The same gay marriage proponents will drone on about how polygamy is perverted and evil, but gay buddies should be able to adopt kids, without anyone being able to object, even.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 28, 2011 10:12 AM (G/MYk)

Perry seems to routinely come down on the side the will either garner or not risk political capital, like most sickening pols. Seems to be literally on the fence on immigration, which makes him barely 1 RCH better than K B Hutchinson, and not a Conservative leader.

135 #142 I don't have any disagreement with you on that.

136 latest TSA (alleged) grope/scan victims:  former Miss USA & Baywatch Babe

137 Y-not,  I see your point,  but I am not lobbying for trains.  I was just explaining to people who live in the urban areas of the East how badly the gas prices affect people out here.

Besides,  even if we were going to put trains in (which we are not) it would take decades to assemble anything that would be useful,  and they are never going to run a train system to Gnawbone or Paoli.  It would be cheaper to send a chauffered limo to pick those people up.

138 About the transportation thing, I agree that it is the progressives' plan to move to buses and trains as transportation, and also to force more people to move closer to the cities. What they haven't explained is how there will be money to build train lines, pay for bus lines, and build the apartment style housing required to move more people closer to the cities, after the economy crashes.

Captain Hate, do you have a link on the Kasich slam on Ear Leader?

139 Integrative Complexity  means knowing something that just isn't so.

140 Miss Marple-some of us urban hipsters understand the gas prices thing.  I drive the wife back and forth to work a few miles away (it's not far, unless you rely on public transit to go the long way around), and I certainly notice the extra money I have to spend to put gas in the tank.

141 @147
You're absolutely right.  I mostly was using your post as an excuse to point out how tired I am of the Left blithely acting like public transport is the solution for everything.  So friggin' irritating. 

Reminds me of when I was in Boston during the first Iraq war and all the lefties were saying how it was "war for oil" and that high gas problems would be no biggy.  Well, they got their wish.  Pricks. 

142 Here you go Barb:  http://recordpub.com/news/article/5025259

143 He's awful on illegal aliens, which makes his posturing on "the Republic of Texas" somewhat of a sad joke.
Posted by: iknowtheleft at April 28, 2011 10:24 AM (G/MYk)

Agreed 100%.

144 Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at April 28, 2011 07:56 AM (jx2j9)

I was so thrilled when I read this last night but then to read that he's ben suspended before and they let him back made me disgusted.  I want to write them and suggest that this time they stick to their guns.  But then again, nanny p still get communion so they are really really weak.

145 Check out the braindead comments following that Kasich article.  Good for a chuckle.

146 Hey, you got your Cognitive Dissonance in my Integrative Complexity.

147 beck is going to have west on.  He was pushing christie, then pushing huntsman, now he's pushing west.

he's behaving like a love struck 7th grade girl on this.

148 What they haven't explained is how there will be money to build train lines, pay for bus lines, and build the apartment style housing required to move more people closer to the cities, after the economy crashes.

I made this very same point to my lib friend - who, ironically enough, is living in Indiana (and has been drawing unemployment for a year or so).  He was extolling the virtues of a "green" lifestyle and saying how great it was that $5 gas would help us "dialog" about things like public transport, buying locally, etc. 

Now, I happen to have a very old friend who has been doing that sort of thing for years.  She's living in what's called a "tiny house" which she built herself, works kind of non-traditional/consulting type jobs (so no commute), and I believe relies on a fair amount of bartering with other like-minded folks for a lot goods and services.  A very low impact lifestyle.  Kind of cool (from a distance). 

But that's her choice. 

I pointed out to my Indiana friend - living in the 'burbs with his two kids, shuttling them everywhere by car btw - that the great thing about this country is that we can choose that sort of lifestyle.  It doesn't take high gas prices to make that choice.  Nor do high prices help communities build the infrastructure needed for people to live without cars etc. 

He had no response. 

149 He's so......dreamy.

150 What they haven't explained is how there will be money to build train lines, pay for bus lines, and build the apartment style housing required to move more people closer to the cities, after the economy crashes.

Captain Hate, do you have a link on the Kasich slam on Ear Leader?
Posted by: Barb the Evil Genius at April 28, 2011 10:26 AM (MyByM)

Money's not a problem for the left, they can print it endlessly.

What they are going for again is control, using the by now totally debunked european model where you can literally get anywhere by train (lived there for a couple of years) but their "anywhere" is rapidly turning into nowhere anyone would want to live, due to failed socialism and muzzie appeasement.

151 What a partisan that west is, I mean he likes chocolate chocolate chip ice cream, he a double chocolater....ugh too much chocolate.

152

Who is really arming the Mexican Drug Cartels? 

Hint: It isn't Cabelas.

153 #155  Those fuckheads are having a hard time dealing with a situation in which Ohio isn't putting up with the shit that the people in Wisconsin dealt with because Ohio is a much more conservative state.  They can't even depend on the usual quislings like Sherrod Brown to do anything other than some random whining on their behalf since he's up for re-election next year and there are tons of people like me who have that cocksucker as target #1.  Shit, he couldn't even get disaster relief from his home base of Lorain for their flooding damage.  How's that hope and change working out?

154 well, it seems it isn't over, the market ticker guy is weighing in.

Have seen a few articles like this on sites that wouldn't be considered republican or conservative and might even be considered lib/dem but figured I'd go with a site that normally does business and the economy.

155 Thank you, Captain Hate. Glad to hear this as an Ohioan.

156 Alan West calling cap and trade and global warming as "behavior modification through legislation"....

157 101
The economy slowed sharply in the first three months of the year as high gas prices cut into consumer spending, bad weather delayed construction projects and the federal government slashed defense spending by the most in six years.
Posted by: Marcus at April 28, 2011 09:18 AM (CHrmZ)

Snowstorms can't melt economies!

158 But even having lived that lifestyle I would never pretend - as so many liberals do - that it is for everyone.  In fact, I think it's a minority of adults who can live that way.  Libs are perfectly happy to tell others how to live, irrespective of the consequences.
Posted by: Y-not at April 28, 2011 10:14 AM (pW2o

I, too, lived that lifestyle -- when I was in grad school in the Bay Area and could take advantage of the subsidized-up-the-wazoo public transportation system then in place. But there is no way now -- thirty years later and in Wilmington, DE -- that I could do the same thing without blowing two hours out of my day in order to execute a sixteen-mile round trip commute. For those who can and will do it, more power to you. But do not presume to tell me that I must take up the cause (or else).

I guess the outcomes from living their lives according to the devices, desires and dictates of the Liberal-Abortionist Complex facilitates the libtards' infatuation with public buses and choo-choos. No kiddies! Wheeeeeee!

159

OK, let me take a stab at why we ought to keep pushing this:

And allow me to take a stab at why we don't:

 

And you may now start to rip me for not caring about the Constitution or whatever..........now.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life

 

Dude. What's with the violent rhetoric? Haven't you heard about the new, new civility?

160 "We've got better stuff to do. I've got better stuff to do. We've got big problems to solve, and I'm confident we can solve them, but we're going to have to focus on them, not on this." He then promptly boarded Air Force One to solve one of those vital problems -- by flying to Chicago for another appearance on Oprah's show.

Integrative Complexity

161 #168  Not only will we or the Kostards not decide the election, we won't decide the strategy and we won't determine whether or not Trump keeps going.  And we will not have any effect on those who think of the birth certificate/transcripts/etc as anything more than an opportunity to make an Alinsky drone live up to his own rules.

I don't know, but this is sort of like watching the Iran-Iraq War.  I don't have a problem with one guy I can't stand who will never sniff the Presidency distracting another guy I can't stand who already has sniffed it.

All those exquisitely sensitive-but-disconnected moderates hate negative ads too, but those ads still work on them.

162

“Our customers are running out of money, buying smaller pack sizes and less discretionary items near the end of the month,” [Walmart CEO] Duke said. “It shows greater pressure on consumers. Rising fuel price has been one of the factors that affect consumer spending. The end of paycheck cycle is pronounced among our core customers.”

This isn't just bad for Obama, it's political Armageddon

163 Why isnÂ’t anyone worried about the weakening of gravity? In 1850 we were totally incapable of flight, yet in 2011 we are able to lauch massive pieces of metal out of our atmosphere! My god in another 100 years weÂ’ll all simply float off into oblivion unless something done! We cannot afford to wait!

164 More zerohedge: "More Americans Believe The Country Is In A Depression Than Growing" Some Gallup survey. Of the choices depression, recession, slowing, and growing, 29% think we're in a depression, 27% think we're growing.

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