May 10, 2011

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— Gabriel Malor

The Fourth Circuit will take up the first two ObamaCare appeals this morning in back-to-back arguments. First up is Liberty University, which lost below, and then the State of Virginia, which won on some, but not all issues.

Unlike the multi-state lawsuit out of Florida, which has a much better substantive and procedural posture and resulted in knocking the entire law down, these two lawsuits focused solely on the individual mandate. The big issues in today's hearing will be standing, whether economic inactivity is "activity" for the purpose of the Commerce Clause, and whether there are any meaningful limits on what is "necessary and proper" to the exercise of federal power. The acting Solicitor General will no doubt make the argument that "health care is different" to justify the sweeping, dare I say tyrannical, scope of ObamaCare.

Assuming the Fourth Circuit manages to activate circa-2000 technology (not a guarantee), audio of the argument should be available on its website around 2pm EST.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 02:58 AM | Comments (336)
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1 The Governator and Maria calling it quits.

Posted by: dogfish at May 10, 2011 03:04 AM (N2yhW)

2 Hope they fast track this so the games can continue on to the SC.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:04 AM (yrGif)

3 We pay people pretty well in this country to be economically inactive, why should health insurance be any different?

Posted by: mugiwara at May 10, 2011 03:05 AM (KI/Ch)

4 Good morning.

If health care is "different" I assume someone will explain how.

What I think is that once this is allowed to be implemented,  the next thing will be food.  Food will be labeled "different" because everyone has a right to eat. 

Then housing,  because everyone has a right to shelter.

etc.


Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 03:07 AM (Fo83G)

5 The Governator and Maria calling it quits.

Well, there goes Arnie's link to 'Camelot'.  He must finally have realized he isn't going to be president.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 03:08 AM (FkKjr)

6 While My Guitar Gently Weeps?  Teh Suck.  Can't figure out why so many people covered it.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 03:11 AM (1fanL)

7 Jimmy Carter has said Huntsman would be a good president.

Cross Huntsman off the list,  if you haven't done so already.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 03:13 AM (Fo83G)

8 Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 07:07 AM (Fo83G)
Miss M: The liberal definition of "rights" is elastic to say the least.

I always thought it would be nice if ANY Repub Senator had had the stones to ask each SC nominee the George Will question "Can you name one thing that is undeniably exempt from the Commerce clause?"

On a related note, the reformers keep saying that if only we could "buy health insurance across state lines" somehow seem to forget that this is one of the few features of the current law that might be interpreted by a court as keeping health insurance as a State prerogative, rather than a Federal one.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:13 AM (yrGif)

9 Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 07:11 AM (1fanL)

Don't start that shit again.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 03:17 AM (LH6ir)

10 Gabe, what's the buzz on the expected ruling from them?

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:18 AM (M9Ie6)

11

More BS from Dem PR Rags

Now we are undertaxed and only pay 14% of GDP.  If you read this stupid article and think between the lines you would see why there could be a drop as compared to GDP. Remember that GDP includes government spending. The porkulous package has vastly increased government spending by running 1.7 trillion dollar deficits. Since that money was never “earned” by anyone it was never taxed.

The second problem with this article is that it is most likely an outright lie to begin with. I have seen articles recently that put the number at 18% which is what they say it always becomes regardless of what ever the rates are.

Remember the old saying; “Figures don’t lie but liars figure”.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:19 AM (M9Ie6)

12 Well today and yesterday Obama is talking up illegal immigration. Yes he is talking up an illegal activity, while his administration continues lawlessly only enforcing laws it deems to. So to those of you who thought Obama couldn't possibly suck more cock today than he had yesterday I give a hearty I told you so.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 10, 2011 03:20 AM (6ck9N)

13 That is a curious oversight, is it not?

Posted by: ya2daup at May 10, 2011 07:17 AM (/h8IG)

I have always thought it was strange and have never heard it addressed, even by the buffoons on Fox.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:20 AM (yrGif)

14

More stupid politics from Obama

Obama to keep National Guard on border

President Obama will keep the National Guard on the U.S.-Mexico border past their current June deadline, agreeing to the demand by a number of border lawmakers who say having the military there deters illegal activity.

Why?  They put these guys out there unarmed and they are not “arresting” anyone. Even border patrol has been told no arrests or deportations. So what is the point.  And another question; who are these “number of border lawmakers”? That sounds like the typical cop out from liberal PR, the ubiquitous “they”.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:20 AM (M9Ie6)

15 #8  I see your point.  However,  could states not enter into agreements,  like they do with recognizing medical licenses or bar licenses with certain other states?

Or could a basic policy be written and the onerous portions (such as covering drug addiction or whatever) be added as riders when people take up residence in states that require those riders?

I am no expert,  just thinking. 

As I said,  though,  this really isin't about health care,  any more than the lack of drilling is about caring  about the environment.

It's all about power and control.

And wrecking the economy on purpose.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 03:20 AM (Fo83G)

16 "The darkness will remain, and will not be dispelled until a new and different sort of leader emerges, to show his people a better way."

This is the last sentence from the sidebar article on Islam. As depressing as it seems, it's actually wildly optimistic. The reality is that Islam is, by design, murderous and expansionist. Only when a leader arrives to change the tenets of the religion will there be a better way. And that won't happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 03:21 AM (LH6ir)

17

More slanted biased and false reporting from AP

The headline reads:

New Boeing plant sparks uproar

No assholes, the plant doesnÂ’t spark uproar.  The uproar comes from the illegal actions of the NLRB. The story dutifully regurgitates everything the NLRB says, neglecting to mention that the move by the NLRB is unprecedented and exceeds their authority by a country mile. It also neglects to mention that the board has been staffed now with union thugs and has zero credibility as a “neutral arbitrator” which is what its function is supposed to be.

If the Dems are going to obviate the purpose of the board then the House Republicans need to simply defund it and eliminate it.

 

 


Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:21 AM (M9Ie6)

18 Sorry for the awful formatting.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 03:21 AM (LH6ir)

19

Eye of Newt supposed to make his announcement today.

Question? Who will he take votes from, because he has zero chance. The purple States hate him and the South has given up on him with his support for the AGW scam and his lying cheating ways.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:23 AM (M9Ie6)

20 So to those of you who thought Obama couldn't possibly suck more cock today than he had yesterday I give a hearty I told you so.

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 10, 2011 07:20 AM (6ck9N)

We have a blue light special on full auto weapons on aisle 6 but inability to prove US citizenship is required.

Not that I know anything about that.

Posted by: Eric H at May 10, 2011 03:23 AM (yrGif)

21 Only when a leader arrives to change the tenets of the religion will there be a better way. And that won't happen.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 07:21 AM (LH6ir)

What's that you say?

Posted by: Imam # 12 at May 10, 2011 03:25 AM (yrGif)

22 Has Baby Assad finally attained the full ruthlessness of his father?

Syrian army tanks 'moving towards Hama'

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 10, 2011 03:25 AM (9hSKh)

23 While My Guitar Gently Weeps?  Teh Suck.  Can't figure out why so many people covered it. I have the answers you seek.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2011 03:29 AM (U9jjw)

24 Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 07:20 AM (Fo83G)
Not that I know what I'm talking about either, but provision of health care insurance from a provider in another state requires money to cross state borders, hence commerce, whereas recognition of licenses does not. 
The IANAL disclaimer applies here.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:30 AM (yrGif)

25 Didn't Graham vote to confirm Holder?

Posted by: Mr Pink at May 10, 2011 03:35 AM (6ck9N)

26 Posted by: Mr Pink at May 10, 2011 07:35 AM (6ck9N)
Don't Graham and McCain vote to confirm anybody nominated by a Dem?

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:37 AM (yrGif)

27

Bwhahahaha!  This actually came out on the weekend, but I just read it today.  Oprah Network ousts its CEO.  From her pic, she looks like an affirmative action hire (Black Lesbian). 

"In the middle of last week, OWN board members decided to replace Ms. Norman becasue they felt the channel needed new leadership to better establish itself, especially as Ms. Winfrey begins to turn her full attention to the network later this month...Ms. Norman, a former president at MTV didn't return calls for comment.

She was an early champion of bringing talk show star, Rosie O'Donnell to the network.  Ms. O'Donnell will be doing a daily talk show on the network in the fall."

 

Yup, Rosie O'Donnell.  That's sure to fire up the ratings. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 10, 2011 03:40 AM (ihSHD)

28 24 Finally some good news.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 03:42 AM (qIHlG)

29 Holder's lackey didn't get confirmed.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 03:44 AM (qIHlG)

30 You never see Rosie O'Donnell and Michael Moore at the same time. Granted you would have to have a panoramic camera for that.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 03:45 AM (qIHlG)

31 runningrn,  I am pleased that Oprah is heading to her own little network,  in the upper tier of cable channels,  so that people will have to pay to see her.

They won't.  A lot of her success came from the fact that she was on right after the soaps in a lot of markets,  so TV's stayed on and women watched.

These same people will now be watching what comes on in the afternoon in their free or basic tier of cable.  If it's Katie Couric,  SHE will have "found her calling."  Or if it is an hour of kittie videos,  same deal.

Oprah is going to fail,  and spectacularly,  and I will chortle with glee.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 10, 2011 03:46 AM (Fo83G)

32 Holder's lackey didn't get confirmed.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 07:44 AM (qIHlG)

When is the next congressional recess?

Posted by: Eric H at May 10, 2011 03:46 AM (yrGif)

33 Didn't Graham vote to confirm Holder?

About half voted to confirm. That is below normal for repukes. They did block one yesterday. That actually scares me because the guy had got in on a recess appointment.

If he was so bad the Republicans blocked him he had to be VERY bad.

One thing to keep in mind was the vote by the committee to send it to the floor WAS the confirmation vote. At this time the Dems didn't need ANY Republicans to confirm him. The Judiciary Committee does require at least 1 minority vote to go to the floor. They could have blocked him there. Only 2 Republicans voted no.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:47 AM (M9Ie6)

34 In short we need to get Graham and McCain off the Judiciary Committee.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 03:48 AM (M9Ie6)

35 If he was so bad the Republicans blocked him he had to be VERY bad.
Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 07:47 AM (M9Ie6)
This one apparently had a paper trail.  They will be more careful next time and use recess appointments as well. 
Sometimes the public must be protected from too much information about appointees.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:51 AM (yrGif)

36 #32, FlaviusJulius, the camera angle is not the issue.  Moore and O'Donnell are one in the same.....that's why.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at May 10, 2011 03:52 AM (MPtFW)

37 In short we need to get Graham and McCain off the Judiciary Committee.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 07:48 AM (M9Ie6)

One can only hope, but they both have a few more years to run roughshod over us and the Constitution.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 10, 2011 03:52 AM (yrGif)

38 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 10, 2011 07:25 AM (9hSKh)

The chinless wonder gets an A for effort, but daddy was a world-class monster. Sonny has to do more than just kill a few hundred protesters.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 03:54 AM (LH6ir)

39 I don't know if this has been covered here, but it doesn't seem to be getting much play.
There are possible solutions for SS and Obamanocare.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 10, 2011 03:56 AM (HBqDo)

40 #33, Miss Marple, unfortunately I think your analysis will also apply (to some degree) to Beck when he exits Fox at the end of the year.  I like the work (research) he and his staff does, but I think in the last year or so the guy's head has grown to be far larger than his thorax.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at May 10, 2011 03:56 AM (MPtFW)

41

 runningrn,  I am pleased that Oprah is heading to her own little network,  in the upper tier of cable channels,  so that people will have to pay to see her.

 

She could just take P&G down with her.  From ABC News some time ago:

P&G, the manufacturer of dozens of household name brands like Tide, Crest, Tampax and Pampers, committed to a deal reportedly worth more than $100 million over three years. The agreement, which includes the purchase of time and integration into programming, is unprecedented in that Winfrey's network (OWN for short) will not be on the air until January 2011, does not yet have a full programming lineup and has no audience and therefore no basis for ratings, reach or demographics.

There are sacred ground rules. If the show does not perform, advertisers generally get some type of "make good," generally the right to run additional commercials. Although we have to assume the deal between OWN and P&G has laid out parameters based on some kind of performance measures, the truth might be more juicy.

Procter & Gamble is probably making a good bet.

First of all, the Winfrey deal is a mere morsel from their $2.71 billion dollar ad budget grand buffet. The onus is on OWN to make this work as advertisers have often followed P&G's lead. And if P&G is happy, other big advertisers are sure to follow.

It is likely therefore, that Procter can use this leverage to stretch its advertising dollars. The Chief Marketing Officer's role at Procter & Gamble is sometimes referred to as the most powerful job in advertising, and P&G is known as a conservative company that generally only makes sure bets.

Yeah, because everyone knows that success in advertising comes from getting to run a whole lot more ads on a station that no one is watching! 

Posted by: runningrn at May 10, 2011 03:58 AM (ihSHD)

42 Posted by: ontherocks at May 10, 2011 07:56 AM (HBqDo)

It's a bit light on the details.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:01 AM (LH6ir)

43
The chinless wonder gets an A for effort, but daddy was a world-class monster. Sonny has to do more than just kill a few hundred protesters.

 

Remember, he's a Westernized moderate, an ophthamologist who was practicing in London when his father died.  His wife was just written up in a big Vogue spread as she is not only the best dressed wife of a dictator, but also spoke about how decisions in their family are made democratically. 

Posted by: runningrn at May 10, 2011 04:01 AM (ihSHD)

44 Obamacare lawsuitz - yet another reason to not be complacent in 2012,Scalia ain't getting any younger

Posted by: chemjeff at May 10, 2011 04:01 AM (Vw0uV)

45 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 07:19 AM (M9Ie6)

There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

Total taxation, as suggested by a fair amount of research, can't exceed 20% of GDP. But these buffoons are talking about federal tax only. The last time I checked, my state taxes weren't optional. And if you add in all of the other taxes and fees we pay, our tax burden has grown, not shrunk.

If anyone is serious about the contention that we as a nation are undertaxed they deserve to be laughed at and poked with a stick.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:05 AM (LH6ir)

46 Oh, and I don't care if Aaron Shock is gay.  He looks yummy on the cover of Men's Health Magazine.

Posted by: runningrn at May 10, 2011 04:06 AM (ihSHD)

47 >>Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 08:01 AM (LH6ir)

Still trying to find where I saw it yesterday, gonna have to see if I can resurrect some emails.
Miss80'sBaby was probably allover this and I just didn't see it.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 10, 2011 04:07 AM (HBqDo)

48 If anyone is serious about the contention that we as a nation are undertaxed they deserve to be laughed cussed at and poked beat with a stick.

FTFY

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:08 AM (M9Ie6)

49 ¡Qué gran idea. Voy a iniciar mi propia cadena de televisión. Lo estoy nombrando La Red de Drogas Illegales!!1!11!11!1 Estilo pandillero matando a las 24 horas del día!!!!!11!11

Beanbags? Bwahahahahahahahaa. 7.62x39  trabajando mas buenas.

Posted by: El Kilo at May 10, 2011 04:09 AM (le5qc)

50 Posted by: runningrn at May 10, 2011 08:01 AM (ihSHD)

Oh, yes. He is a fully westernized Arab who loves freedom and democracy!

They are Alawites, which is a hated minority in Syria. If Assad starts to lose, the bloodbath will be ugly.

Of course it is Israel's fault. I'm not sure how or why yet, but the Arab world will no doubt explain it soon.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:11 AM (LH6ir)

51 Maria. Call me.

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 04:11 AM (+sBB4)

52 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:08 AM (M9Ie6)

I will happily defer to your edits.

What amuses me (and infuriates me too) about articles such as this, is that they are obviously totally clueless about the reality of the situation.

"Oh, no, we are doing fine! We need more taxes, and everything will be wonderful!"

Liberalism isn't a mental disorder; it's the left side of the curve of intelligence.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:14 AM (LH6ir)

53 His wife was just written up in a big Vogue spread as she is not only the best dressed wife of a dictator...

Filling the void left when Yassir Arafat left this mortal plane - Suha lived well in Paris off the largesse of the foolish Western nations.

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at May 10, 2011 04:15 AM (9hSKh)

54 4th Cir:  saw on local TV last night (from Richmond) that the 14 judges would draw lots to see which 3 judges heard the case.  There are 7 Dem appts & 7 Repub appts on the 4th Cir.

Posted by: kelleyinvirginia at May 10, 2011 04:18 AM (5TCB2)

55

53 Maria. Call me.

Dude, you are talking skeletor and jaws all rolled into one. She is dumb as a rock as well.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 04:19 AM (Q5+Og)

56 The Insane News delivered with not only a smile but a giggle by Tingles .
This guy has the potential to not only go off the rails in the next 18 months but deep into the woods IYNWIMAITYD.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 10, 2011 04:19 AM (HBqDo)

57

Hot Air report on potential Mitch Daniels run

Its up to his wife!!!

They also pose the question; what if it boils down to a race between him and Huck?

But don't they know that Ron Paul is the Repub nominee??


Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:21 AM (M9Ie6)

58 The 4 Cir panel hearing these cases consists of??

Posted by: It's Morning in the Pension Fund of America at May 10, 2011 04:21 AM (Hxx1V)

59 4th Cir drawing lots to determine which 3 judges hear Obamacare is what I understood from TV last night.

Posted by: kelleyinvirginia at May 10, 2011 04:23 AM (5TCB2)

60 Morning all....Just saw Microsoft is buying Skype...$8.5B.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 04:24 AM (VuLos)

61

but think of the family fortune, Goober. all he needs is NO prenup and a wedding night.

 

1. shag her once

2. divorce her

3. get half her money

I found the missing connection between 1 and profit!!!!!!

Posted by: todler at May 10, 2011 04:24 AM (fPOY0)

62 but also spoke about how decisions in their family are made democratically.

Well democracy over in the Arab world means something different than what you and I might think. They have a vote, Dictator gets 100% and rules accordingly.

So kinda like the US under Obama except for the 100% thing.

Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 10, 2011 04:24 AM (tf9Ne)

63

Remember the EPA and Hazardous milk spills?

It seems that someone told them it was a bridge too far and now they are backing off.............until next time.


Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:26 AM (M9Ie6)

64 Hey Vic, I was reading an article last night that SC is going to make and sell their own incandescent light.  Have you seen that info?

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 04:30 AM (VuLos)

65

Hot Air report on potential Mitch Daniels run

Its up to his wife!!!

The same wife who left him (with the kids) for a Doctor on the west coast, then came back?  Even if he forgave her, I don't see how he can be letting her make career decisions for him.

I'm getting the impression Mitch is something of a doormat.  If he is elected President with "Blood and Guts" Boehner as the Speaker, we might as well just declare Harry Reid our King.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 04:32 AM (FkKjr)

66 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:26 AM (M9Ie6)

According to the OSHA rules where I worked for a long time, if a responder came across a Coca Cola spill he would have to treat it as a HazMat incident.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:34 AM (LH6ir)

67

Over at Redstate a column blasting Richard Luger for going McCain on conservatives

Yeah Lugar, nothing like poking the base in the eye with a stick. I suspect his days are numbered if he is doing this shit.


Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:35 AM (M9Ie6)

68 57 answered my Q. Why don't they go straight to en Banc hearing and skip the panel of 3 step? From a 14 judge bench, 7 R and 7 D, do they split evenly on party lines, or do some of the Bush Repukes reach across the aisle to deliver us to a new socialist order? If the Const has any meaning left at all, this law should go down in flames. And if it is upheld, then the Union built on that Const foundation is kaput, IMHO.

Posted by: It's Morning in the Pension Fund of America at May 10, 2011 04:35 AM (Hxx1V)

69 Kratos - Baby Assad, was just the velvet glove on the iron fist -- his brothers and relatives remained in command of the core security and intelligence forces.  Baby Assad is in just as much danger from falling down the steps at the family home as he is from a Sunni mob.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 04:36 AM (WkuV6)

70 Hey Vic, I was reading an article last night that SC is going to make and sell their own incandescent light.  Have you seen that info?

Yeah I have seen it, but isn't it funny that NONE of the local papers are carrying it.

I suspect that it will immediately be challenged by the Obamanites.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:36 AM (M9Ie6)

71 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:36 AM (M9Ie6)

Unfortunately the precedent is already there. Wholly in-state purchases change the interstate commerce in those products (according to the SCOTUS), and that's where they get their power to control.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:39 AM (LH6ir)

72

The big issues in today's hearing will be standing, whether economic inactivity is "activity" for the purpose of the Commerce Clause, and whether there are any meaningful limits on what is "necessary and proper" to the exercise of federal power.

Good God, can you imagine the implications if SCOTUS finds against us on these two points?

The government will literally own us and the rest of the Constitution will be voided.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 04:40 AM (K2wpv)

Posted by: Chuckit at May 10, 2011 04:41 AM (hkh93)

74

So I tried to buy alcohol on Sunday and Target wouldn't sell it. Beer would have been okay, but not the hard stuff.

I assumed it was a state law, but when I checked, it appears it is not. And the state law says there can't be local laws against it either.

Interesting...

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 04:41 AM (XdlcF)

75 So, how many 'journalists' have made this claim now? BTW: This is their SEGMENT title, don't just a question slipped in.

CNN Anchor: Is Obama ‘Unbeatable’ in 2012?

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 04:41 AM (penCf)

76 Has everyone sent that "Vindication" picture of Cowboy Bush to everyone you know who it'd piss off?  I know I have.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:43 AM (1fanL)

77 Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 08:40 AM (K2wpv)

What was your old handle?  It is driving me crazy trying to think of it.  You had 2 or 3 you liked to use years ago.

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 04:43 AM (penCf)

78 Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 08:41 AM (XdlcF)

Are you in the South?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:44 AM (1fanL)

79 Target sells hard liquor where you are? Wow. In Virginia, you can buy beer or wine just about anywhere but the hard stuff you have to get at the abc store. North Carolina too, if I remember correctly, except the liquor stores aren't state run?

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 04:45 AM (23y25)

80

Are you in the South?

Why, yes, how did you guess??

Louisiana.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 04:45 AM (XdlcF)

81 According to the OSHA rules where I worked for a long time, if a responder came across a Coca Cola spill he would have to treat it as a HazMat incident.

I suspect that they had "over-interpreted" the rules. This is common in a lot of large companies that have a legal department that likes to play it safe. Generally speaking common household products in small quantities are exempt from the hazmat rules.

When they first came out with all that "chemical spill and hazorous stuff" mess though we had to put labels on damn near everything, including whiteboard cleaner. A bunch of us actually went into the regualtions and responded back to corporate that they had gone off the deep end. They backed off.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:45 AM (M9Ie6)

82 So I tried to buy alcohol on Sunday and Target wouldn't sell it. Beer would have been okay, but not the hard stuff.

I'm jealous.  The hardest drink you can get at my Target is Red Bull.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 04:45 AM (VuLos)

83 Most of us morons predicted this. We must be geniuses, or everybody else is dumber than a bucket of rat turds.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 04:46 AM (OlN4e)

84 You'll just have to scroll these the top posts to have your funny for today.  Mrs. O doing the down and dirty, Mrs. Biden wearing an out dated prom dress, Mrs. o wearing witch shoes, and of course, date night!

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 04:47 AM (penCf)

85 The same wife who left him (with the kids) for a Doctor on the west coast, then came back?  Even if he forgave her, I don't see how he can be letting her make career decisions for him.

I'm getting the impression Mitch is something of a doormat.  If he is elected President with "Blood and Guts" Boehner as the Speaker, we might as well just declare Harry Reid our King.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 08:32 AM (FkKjr)

Why do we even consider whipped asswipes like Mitch?  God fucking dammit, can't Repuke central cull the fucking dickweeds like him and Mark Sanford that have terminal cooch issues?

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 04:47 AM (wX23+)

86 Hey, is anyone else on the Slamtrak no-ride list? Bwahahahahahahaha

Posted by: El Kilo at May 10, 2011 04:47 AM (le5qc)

87 I know, dagny, it's easier to get it here...I thought. In Texas, Walmart had beer and wine and you couldn't buy it before noon on Sunday.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 04:47 AM (XdlcF)

88 Did you know that business partners of Capital One can send you a letter about some free trial service and at the end of that time charge your Capital One card for a membership fee. 

Yeah, trying to get this removed is fun.  3rd phone call this morning and I'm on hold...once again.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 04:48 AM (VuLos)

89 Kinda related to the SC incandescent bulb law.  Has anyone seen anything new on the Montana made gun bill?


Posted by: Buzzsaw at May 10, 2011 04:48 AM (tf9Ne)

90 So I tried to buy alcohol on Sunday and Target wouldn't sell it. Beer would have been okay, but not the hard stuff.

ALL Blue Laws are State laws, particularly liquor laws. When they repealed prohibition the amendment specifically states that it is up to the States how they wish to regulate it. SCOTUS has consistently ruled that States can do anything they want in the form of regulation.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:49 AM (M9Ie6)

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 10, 2011 04:50 AM (jx2j9)

92 52% of Republicans Want a Third Party

 

Interesting. I guess even the establishment pubbies will have to listen to the TEA party or go the way of the Neanderthal. I doubt seriously this will have any affect on Lugar, McCain and miss lindsay.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 04:50 AM (Q5+Og)

93

I'm jealous.  The hardest drink you can get at my Target is Red Bull.

LOL. But they teased me. Let me pick it up off the shelf and take it to the check out...

I'm still trying to figure out why...first thing I read said the local towns and parishes couldn't make "extra" laws, but now I'm reading that they do...

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 04:51 AM (XdlcF)

94 ALL Blue Laws are State laws, particularly liquor laws. When they repealed prohibition the amendment specifically states that it is up to the States how they wish to regulate it. SCOTUS has consistently ruled that States can do anything they want in the form of regulation.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:49 AM (M9Ie6)

It goes lower than the State, ie. dry counties in Kentucky, which I unfortunately found out on a trip to Mammoth Cave.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 04:52 AM (wX23+)

95 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:45 AM (M9Ie6)

Yes, the interpretations of all of the OSHA rules erred on the side of CYA. We had an unfortunate series of nasty accidents that we could show were the fault of the employees not working as trained, but OSHA hammered us anyway. The corporate settlement required internal audits and strict external oversight from an auditing company.

One of those accidents involved an employee who was later used as a pawn by the union. He had to return to the building in which he had lost his arm, and I inherited him. Needless to say, he had a bad attitude.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 04:54 AM (LH6ir)

96

I'm getting the impression Mitch is something of a doormat.

He can't be. He rides a Harley, man.On the other hand, he is a Trucer. He needs to explain his aggressive ambivalence before I sign on.

Posted by: mark c at May 10, 2011 04:54 AM (SBIko)

97 Morning, all!  I fully expect to have heartburn by the end of today thanks to these Obamacare suits.  Aggravating.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 04:54 AM (4df7R)

98 Yeah, we had dry counties in Alabama.  The ones on the way to Panama City for spring break.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:55 AM (1fanL)

99 I'm not sure that I completely disagree with the state run stores/hard liquor at liquor stores thing. At least they are set up with cameras/security better. I've noticed that there are always a few sketchy guys in the parking lot near the abc. Washington DC is a disgusting pit with liquor/lottery stores and the attendant barred windows/pimps/whores/drunks/drug dealers on every corner outside of the main tourist areas and segregated NW. It would help that city enormously if they didn't have those festering sores on every block.

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 04:55 AM (23y25)

100 In Virginia, you can buy beer or wine just about anywhere but the hard stuff you have to get at the abc store. North Carolina too, if I remember correctly, except the liquor stores aren't state run? Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 08:45 AM (23y25) I'm in VA and I don't get that.. McDonnell tried to privatize the ABC stores (Alcoholic Beverage Control) but it died in the Senate (mostly liberal).. They say it's for the children.. To keep teens from drinking.. But teens are stupid and will drink whatever they can get their hands on.. Natty Light would do in lieu of Jim Bean..

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 04:55 AM (Kggtu)

101 We will lose at the 4th Circuit with this panel. I know from experience that Wynn is a laughably poor jurist and was just appointed by Obama so he probably feels like he can't turn around and screw him on his biggest piece of legislature. The other two are Dem appointees as well.

Posted by: Dudley Smith at May 10, 2011 04:55 AM (Axrxa)

102 Morning, all!  I fully expect to have heartburn by the end of today thanks to these Obamacare suits.  Aggravating.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 08:54 AM (4df7R)

It's just a dress rehearsal.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:56 AM (1fanL)

103 HI All:

This is a rather pathetic attempt to harness the MoronSphere for good.   It' basically a fundraising attempt (but for a good cause).  If you think it's inappropriate, feel free to skip it (or even delete it if you're one of the mods) so you can get back to your Ewok PrOn.  

If you're still reading: as many of you know, I lost a 10 year old son 2 years ago after a long (6-year) and horrific battle with cancer.  He spent the equivalent of about 6 months during that time making visits to the hematology/Oncology unit for chemotherapy and blood transfusions (cancer is a nasty, nasty bastard of a disease).  During his time at the hospital, he always looked forward to the visits from the Hole In the Wall Camp staff workers who'd come to the hospital to entertain the kids as part of their Hospital Outreach Program.

As one way to mark his passing, on May 29th, I'll be riding in a 50 mile bike ride (pretty much along the eastern border of Connecticut from North To South) to help raise funds for the Hole in The Wall Gang Camp.  In case you're not aware of the work the Camp does, it was started by Paul Newman (and friends) as a way of giving the camp experience to very sick children.  The kids stay in what is essentially a quality hotel completely tricked out as a Wild-West camp (it's named in honor of the Hole In The Wall Gang from Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid).  While there, they get to all the things that are part of the camp experience (without the "funny" counselors) all while getting any medical supervision they need (area nurses and oncologists all volunteer their time so that there's always a full medical staff on site).

Over the over the last 20 years or so, the camp operation has grown to the point where they now have over a half-dozen camps in the US, Ireland, and Eastern Europe (among other places) - there's even one in North Carolina that has a NASCAR theme.  During that time, they've been able to give a fantastic camp experience to over 160,000 very sick children.  As an aside, my nephew Jacob died from the same cancer as my son, and he also spent many weeks at the camp (it's only a half-hour from my sister's house).

You can read more about the camp at

http://tinyurl.com/6axc7z5

or simply view a 5-minute video (caution: it will make your eyes water) at:

http://tinyurl.com/685rtey

I realize that most of you have your own charities to support (including research on breeding a meatier, tastier Hobo and on Ewok Mating Habits).  However, if you care to give a bit (even $5 helps) to an extremely worthy organization, you can help sponsor me and support the camp, online at

http://tinyurl.com/6xdlhyx

It's true that Newman was generally a liberal twit (sorry - I repeat myself).  But this shows that even liberals get it right sometimes.

So, if you can slide even a fiver towards the camp, it would be appreciated.    

-RWP

o.k. - every back to PrOn

Posted by: RightWingProf at May 10, 2011 04:56 AM (og2Qz)

104 I have found two sites that say this about LA.

Louisiana - Sale is not state controlled. There are no restrictions of on or off-premise sale unless municipality decides on-premise sale must stop at 2 P.M. Off-premise sale is allowed in grocery stores and all other licensed stores. These sales can be 24/7 and no municipality can challenge this. In New Orleans you can drink alcohol in plastic cups in public and if allowed by the bar take your drinks from one bar to the next. Many places allow consumption of packaged beverages on the street but it is up to the muni.

I suspect they are just ignoring the law.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:56 AM (M9Ie6)

105 Interesting. I guess even the establishment pubbies will have to listen to the TEA party or go the way of the Neanderthal.

It amazes me that men who are considered 'brilliant politicians' will flirt with creating a third party through their stupidity.  Take that quisling idiot John Boehner.  He's so committed to the idea that conservative principles will lead to electoral ruin for the GOP that he's willing to cause electoral ruin for the GOP to avoid it.


Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 04:56 AM (FkKjr)

106

Actually, Nattylite is the lowest calorie real beer. I often get that just so I can have one while I make dinner (which I despise doing every fucking night) and not feel too guilty. It tastes like shit but it's not like I drink it really slowly and savor it.

They will drink anything though. Hell, I remember drinking malt duck at that age.

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 04:57 AM (23y25)

107 Osama's last words: (JAWA)
Blog Sabbath Caption Contest Possible Last Words Edition (Bumped)(Update:Fatwas Issued)Here are some examples:

UPDATE: The "i will cut ur neck" fatwa issued against bin Laden & redc1c4 for:

So you sent Obama an idea on how to get re-elected in 2012. Care to fill me in?

well, i guess that's a fair trade... after all, how hard can it be to feed a bunch of fish?

The "devil will do meetballs from your bodies fatwa issued against Mr Krab & Moshe Ben Avram for: Omar, I had a dream last night. I was at the Krusty Krab and the Krabby Patty I ordered came with a side of Ummah Meatballs.

Ayman: "I hate to do this to you Bin. I can call you Bin, can't I. Well, it's like this. If I don't turn you in, it's meatballs for sure".

OBL: "Yeah, I see your point. No problem. If you need me, I'll be in the compound watching TV".



Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 04:57 AM (penCf)

108

"One of those accidents involved an employee who was later used as a pawn by the union. He had to return to the building in which he had lost his arm, and I inherited him. Needless to say, he had a bad attitude."

 

A one armed union member with an attitude. Didn't they make a TV series out of that storyline?

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 04:57 AM (Q5+Og)

109 His embrace of Pelosi and the then (marginally)popular AGW movement has poisoned him even here.

Posted by: Warthog at May 10, 2011 08:55 AM (WDySP)

I'll confess, I used to think he was pretty smart.  I think he grew and matured in office.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:57 AM (1fanL)

110

What I think is that once you learn how easy it is to get politicians to facilitate the ripping off of American taxpayers, it becomes an addiction.  And BarryÂ’s administration is the syringe.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 10, 2011 04:58 AM (jx2j9)

111 It goes lower than the State, ie. dry counties in Kentucky, which I unfortunately found out on a trip to Mammoth Cave.

Sure, but it is up to the State to set that. GA is like that where they control alcohol sales by county. SC used to be the same laws Statewide but they are slowly moving away from that by having referendums for Sunday sales.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 04:58 AM (M9Ie6)

112 Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 08:51 AM (XdlcF)

In CT, grocery stores only carry beer...no wine or hard stuff.  At about 8:30 on Sat. night big tarps come down and cover the beer.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 04:58 AM (VuLos)

113 114 Obama's OSAMA'S last words

I swear, that wasn't intentional.  Maybe I've just been reading too many of Ace's posts

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 04:58 AM (penCf)

114 I drank Natty Light in collidge for a while.  The beer with the taste for more beer.  It was hard to beat $3 a six pack.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 04:58 AM (1fanL)

115 Okay, it's not just at the parish ('county' for you heathens) level, but at the town level. It appears some towns won't even sell beer on Sundays.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 04:59 AM (XdlcF)

116 Okay, it's not just at the parish ('county' for you heathens) level

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 08:59 AM (XdlcF)

Keep it to yourself, Frenchie!

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:00 AM (1fanL)

117

77--Good God, can you imagine the implications if SCOTUS finds against us on these two points?The government will literally own us and the rest of the Constitution will be voided.Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 08:40 AM (K2wpv)

I hate to break it to you, but they already do. Now kindly return to work. Ocare is not going to pay for itself.

Posted by: taxcropper #51,717,518 at May 10, 2011 05:00 AM (K/USr)

118 In NC, it's State run ABC's (the Governor recently passed on a commission recommendation to sell off the stores) for all hard liquor, closed on Sundays. For beer and wine, it's anything goes at all kinds of retail shops. Gas stations, "dollar stores", tobacconists, everybody is selling some kind of beer/wine product. The bars are weird, you're supposed to pay a nominal fee every year (I do at one place) and sign in every time you show up. The idea being that it's a half-assed private club, but they're not allowed to permit smoking.

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 10, 2011 05:01 AM (xMT+4)

119 Three Demonrat Judges to make ruling on Osamacare.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 05:02 AM (qIHlG)

120

"Actually, Nattylite is the lowest calorie real beer."

 

I thought National Bohemian had gone out of business. The only ones that drank it were the Baltimorons.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 05:02 AM (Q5+Og)

121 Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 08:57 AM (Q5+Og)

I felt sorry for him. He got screwed by the people who claimed to be looking out for him. He was actually a pretty good employee, but the baggage of evry day walking right past the area where he had his arm amputated to save his life must have been heavy!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:02 AM (LH6ir)

122 to be laughed cussed Oops, sorry bout that at and poked beat knocked down Curly style with the other end of a stick.

Hmm, compassionate conservatism is difficult.  But is it funny?

Posted by: Dave at May 10, 2011 05:02 AM (Fr52Z)

123

They say it's for the children.. To keep teens from drinking.. But teens are stupid and will drink whatever they can get their hands on.. Natty Light would do in lieu of Jim Bean..

Did you know that every dui dismissal in Fairfax county has to have a MADD representative sign off on it? They go to every hearing and if the judge says that it's not a dui or if the blood test etc comes back negative that MADD has to agree? MADD then gets paid for the dui classes that are compulsory? They also then donate to candidates and endorse them? On top of that, cops get a "bonus" for every dui.

BTW, never take a "field" sobriety test. They will do it in such a way that you fail even if you are stone cold sober.

Nephew, who was not drunk in any way and whose blood test came back 0 is in the middle of this. The charges will eventually go away but the lawyer is going to be about $2000.

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 05:03 AM (23y25)

124 LOL
Phones required to receive homeland security alerts.
This also includes urgent texts from the one himself....

Headline at Drudge

Posted by: MarkC at May 10, 2011 05:03 AM (yPPVC)

125

Louisiana - Sale is not state controlled. There are no restrictions of on or off-premise sale unless municipality decides on-premise sale must stop at 2 P.M. Off-premise sale is allowed in grocery stores and all other licensed stores. These sales can be 24/7 and no municipality can challenge this

That's what I found, too. But then I found several sites that have discussions like this:

Actually years ago, when I was a Shreveporter, Sunday alcohol sales were banned altogether. Progressive Bossier City started Sunday beer and wine sales and so it was the custom to drive over the S'port-Barksdale bridge to that gas station in front of the base after you had consumed what was left from the case you didn't polish off on the previous Saturday night.

Then the City of Shreveport saw how much tax revenue it was missing-out on and allowed Sunday beer and alcohol sales starting in 1994 or 1995. That was great because Thrifty Liquor was just around the corner on Youree drive from my house.

Strange.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 05:04 AM (XdlcF)

126

BTW, never take a "field" sobriety test. They will do it in such a way that you fail even if you are stone cold sober.

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 09:03 AM (23y25)

The air in the bottom of your lungs will register higher on a breathalyzer.  Which is why the cop wants you to blow and blow and blow.  Don't do it.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:04 AM (1fanL)

127 Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 08:58 AM (1fanL)

We used to by generic beer when it was available. I went to school about 30 miles from a Budweiser plant, and we assumed that the generic stuff was overruns from there. It wasn't bad, and it sure was cheap.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:04 AM (LH6ir)

128

111 Take that quisling idiot John Boehner.  He's so committed to the idea that conservative principles will lead to electoral ruin for the GOP that he's willing to cause electoral ruin for the GOP to avoid it.Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 08:56 AM (FkKjr)

Conservatives? Don't like the optics.

Posted by: Speaker John Boned at May 10, 2011 05:05 AM (K/USr)

129

Uh oh

Linked w/o comment...except for "Ace is gonna blow a gasket"

Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 05:07 AM (AnTyA)

130

"In CT, grocery stores only carry beer...no wine or hard stuff.  At about 8:30 on Sat. night big tarps come down and cover the beer."

 

I noticed that in upstate NY. You can buy beer in a grocery store but have to find a liquor store to buy wine. Very strange given NY is a wine producing state. You would think they would encourage wine consumption with food. I also noticed that the Italian-Amercians still buy wholesale grapes/juice and make their own wine at home. Smart people. I would like to do this as well.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 05:07 AM (Q5+Og)

131 Wait a second.  Didn't Boehner just insist that an increase in the debt limit be accompanied by the same amount of cuts?  That sounds pretty schadenboehner-worthy to me.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:07 AM (1fanL)

132 But teens are stupid and will drink whatever they can get their hands on.. Natty Light would do in lieu of Jim Bean..

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 08:55 AM (Kggtu)


Boon's Farm, Mad Dog 20/20, Busch light, tuaca, jagermeister, peach snapps

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:08 AM (penCf)

133 I ran across a weird one here last year on election day. After I voted I stopped by the liquor store to get some stuff and they were closed. So I said WTF, went to a different store they were closed as well.

The next day I went in and they were open so I asked them about it. They said State law required them to be closed on election day. I searched search through the SC code and I never could find anything that required this.

I suspect this is some local POL pushing the crap. The next time I will go to a different county and check on election day.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:08 AM (M9Ie6)

134

In va you have the right (things I've learned recently) to insist that you get the breathalyzer at the police dept. That takes a while and by that time if you have been drinking, the read is lower. Just to keep in mind. Don't know if every state is like that.

Apparently there are all kinds of tricks that cops do to say you failed the field test. It's entirely subjective anyway.

Posted by: dagny at May 10, 2011 05:08 AM (23y25)

135

Linked w/o comment...except for "Ace is gonna blow a gasket"

Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 09:07 AM (AnTyA)

Nice knowing you.

Posted by: BanHammer of Disallowed Thoughts at May 10, 2011 05:08 AM (1fanL)

136

Keep it to yourself, Frenchie!

There are some things that are soooo much fun to explain to your kids. They just look at you like "why do you adults have to complicate things?"

 

In NC, it's State run ABC's (the Governor recently passed on a commission recommendation to sell off the stores) for all hard liquor, closed on Sundays.

PA was the worst. If you wanted beer and a gin and tonic, you had to go to three stores. State-run for the gin, package store or bar for beer and a grocery store for the tonic.

Alternately, there was New Jersey.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 05:09 AM (XdlcF)

137

Boon's Farm, Mad Dog 20/20, Busch light, tuaca, jagermeister, peach snapps

 

Remember Ripple and Orangedriver? Mad Dog is made on Pocohontas Island in Petersburg, VA. The site of its manufacture is in keeping with the quality of the product.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 05:11 AM (Q5+Og)

138

Boon's Farm, Mad Dog 20/20, Busch light, tuaca, jagermeister, peach snapps

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 09:08 AM (penCf)

Whoa.  I don't think Jagermeister belongs in that list.  You've obviously never had a Jagerbomb.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:11 AM (1fanL)

139

Uh oh

Linked w/o comment...except for "Ace is gonna blow a gasket"

Jerome Corsi and WND. It doesn't get much Birthier than that.

Posted by: mark c at May 10, 2011 05:12 AM (SBIko)

140 As for MADD they are one organization that really pisses me off. They have never had any evidence what so ever to support their worthless laws but they get them through anyway. I suspect that if they are getting paid via fines in VA that a legal challenge would strike that down.

When they were out after better enforcement of existing DUI laws they were fine. But after that they have morphed into an organization of Carrie Nation prohibitionists now. From what I understand almost all the original members have quit in disgust.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:12 AM (M9Ie6)

141 As for MADD they are one organization that really pisses me off.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 09:12 AM (M9Ie6)

Fight back.  Join DAMM - Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:14 AM (1fanL)

142

53 Maria. Call me.

Not a pleasant woman. Last time I saw her in church she wore a B!TCH tank-top. The Governator, by contrast, and their daughter always dress up for Mass.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at May 10, 2011 05:14 AM (NfIvb)

143 Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 09:07 AM (AnTyA)

Where are you from (in OH)?  How many moron Buckeyes are there?

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:15 AM (penCf)

144 Well, all I know is that I have some lonely club soda, pining to be mixed with something...

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 05:15 AM (XdlcF)

145 As for MADD they are one organization that really pisses me off.

MADD has become a vengeance-driven organization designed to punish drinkers.  I know a few horror stories from acquaintances that are about as bad as you can get. 

It's a good cautionary tale about giving anybody 'absolute moral authority'.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 05:16 AM (FkKjr)

146

The evil happy meal that found redemption and saved the Obama presidency.  YouÂ’ll laugh.  YouÂ’ll cry.  YouÂ’ll puke.  The feel nothing movie of the summer.

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 10, 2011 05:16 AM (jx2j9)

147 The best State I have ever been for liquor laws was NV. I don't know how it is now, but in the 70s there were no laws other than age.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:17 AM (M9Ie6)

148 You'll just have to scroll these the top posts to have your funny for today.  Mrs. O doing the down and dirty, Mrs. Biden wearing an out dated prom dress, Mrs. o wearing witch shoes, and of course, date night!


Gag!  And are they calling her "Mrs O" in some lame attempt to equate her with Jackie O?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:18 AM (LFiVW)

149 Catching up to the thread. 

Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws, 'cause in my view there are far too many incidents of drunks - especially repeat offenders - causing accidents on the roads.  It's wrong of police to set people up, but it's infuriating to read about a repeat offender jumping a curb at 8:30 am and taking out a dance instructor's legs. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 05:18 AM (pW2o8)

150 he best State I have ever been for liquor laws was NV. I don't know how it is now, but in the 70s there were no laws other than age.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 09:17 AM (M9Ie6)

You're welcome!

Posted by: The Familia at May 10, 2011 05:19 AM (VuLos)

151 Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws,...

Nobody has advocated that but then again, MADD is no longer going for DUI laws. As I said, they are outright prohibitionists now.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:19 AM (M9Ie6)

152 Unfortunately the precedent is already there. Wholly in-state purchases change the interstate commerce in those products (according to the SCOTUS), and that's where they get their power to control.

What interstate commerce in these products?  They were banned.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 05:20 AM (WkuV6)

153 MADD is an organization with no useful purpose anymore. They need to go the fuck away and shut the fuck up.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 05:20 AM (OlN4e)

154

Whoa.  I don't think Jagermeister belongs in that list.  You've obviously never had a Jagerbomb.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 09:11 AM (1fanL)


When I was in OH it was easier to get the hard stuff.  Old drunks went in and bought bottle of liqueur and a bottle of water (2 separate transactions).  They'd put the liqueur in the small of their back (hidden under their shirt) and outside the store they'd hand you the bag with the water in it.  If cops showed up, they were buying you water (with the receipt) and if they didn't, they'd hand you the bottle with the liqueur in it.  Bums are so freaking smart sometimes.

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:20 AM (penCf)

155 Re the Ahnold and Maria break up.  Why wait so long? 

'Bets on when the Clintons will make it official?  Hasn't it been a decade or so since they lived in the same state? 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 05:20 AM (pW2o8)

156 Nobody has advocated that but then again, MADD is no longer going for DUI laws. As I said, they are outright prohibitionists now.

OK.

Yeah, MADD is BADD. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 05:21 AM (pW2o8)

157

I thought National Bohemian had gone out of business. The only ones that drank it were the Baltimorons.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 09:02 AM (Q5+Og)

They still make that swill and now there is a Natty Boh tower in Canton (SE Baltimore).  I think that the Natty light they were referring to is Natural Light. 

Posted by: Hedgehog at May 10, 2011 05:21 AM (Rn2kl)

158 It's wrong of police to set people up, but it's infuriating to read about a repeat offender jumping a curb at 8:30 am and taking out a dance instructor's legs.

They should target repeat offenders then. The problem we have now is you can rob a liquor store and get off easier than if you buy something there and drink it as you drive away.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:22 AM (M9Ie6)

159 Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
Obamaphone!
Ring ring ring ring ring ring ring
Obamaphone!
I've got this feeling, so flustered,
for us to get together and teleprompter. Sing!

Posted by: Altama bin Loaden at May 10, 2011 05:22 AM (ux8Ul)

160

I'm just trying to start a conspiracy about why I can't find anything written online about local laws, and why what's written about state laws says there can't be local laws restricting alcohol sales!

Pretty sure it involves a Hawaiian hospital and Catholics in tank tops...developing...

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 05:22 AM (XdlcF)

161 Gag!  And are they calling her "Mrs O" in some lame attempt to equate her with Jackie O?

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 09:18 AM (LFiVW)


You betcha!

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:22 AM (penCf)

162 Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws, 'cause in my view there are far too many incidents of drunks - especially repeat offenders - causing accidents on the roads.  It's wrong of police to set people up, but it's infuriating to read about a repeat offender jumping a curb at 8:30 am and taking out a dance instructor's legs. 



But much like gun control laws, they do nothing to deter the determined repeat offender.

I'd advocate for much harsher penalties.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:22 AM (LFiVW)

163 I suspect that if they are getting paid via fines in VA that a legal challenge would strike that down. Good luck in the court of public opinion against that..

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 05:23 AM (Kggtu)

164 Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws, 'cause in my view there are far too many incidents of drunks - especially repeat offenders - causing accidents on the roads.  It's wrong of police to set people up, but it's infuriating to read about a repeat offender jumping a curb at 8:30 am and taking out a dance instructor's legs.

The problem with strict, zero-tolerance drunk driving laws is that very good people get railroaded very badly by them.

Everybody has driven home a little tipsy.  It happens.  Trouble is, if an accident occurs and even if it isn't your fault, you're screwed, and there's an organization out there that is going to make your life a living hell.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 05:23 AM (FkKjr)

165 Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws, 'cause in my view there are far too many incidents of drunks - especially repeat offenders - causing accidents on the roads.  It's wrong of police to set people up, but it's infuriating to read about a repeat offender jumping a curb at 8:30 am and taking out a dance instructor's legs. 

Show me the stats that prove MADD has lowered the incidence of impared driving. I don't drink and drive, but not because of those fucking old bitches, but because I like to behave responsibly, unlike MADD.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 05:23 AM (OlN4e)

166 Are you folks advocating loosening up of drunk driving laws

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 09:18 AM (pW2o

I'd like to see the stats - what if there was no change in deaths or accidents from drunk driving before the MADDness and after?  I really just want common sense and fairness.  That horseshit about cops wanting you to blow and blow to get the highest reading pisses me off.  Cops piss me off.  And I'm a pro-law enforcement conservative.

And then there was the time I was standing quietly outside the bar to get away from the cigarette smoke when the little Napoleon came up and demanded my keys.  I didn't give them to him, and I went to jail.  No breath test, no FSBs, just little Napoleon with a hard-on for me.

I'm against drunk driving, but I'm even more against violating peoples' rights.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:24 AM (1fanL)

167 Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 09:23 AM (OlN4e)

Get out of my mind!

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:24 AM (1fanL)

168 You betcha!


Jackie would kick M's ass and never even wrinkle the Chanel suit.  Metaphorically speaking, of course.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:25 AM (LFiVW)

169

Oh, folks, this is rich.  I got my usual SEIU email alert this morning (I've been getting at least one a day every day for weeks now -- they're panicky).  The headline topic is still NH HB474, our "Right-to-Work" bill that was passed in both the NH House and Senate and is on its way to the Governor.  He's promised to veto it, but there're super majority Republican contingents in both legislative branches here in NH, so as long as no one steps away from the party line, that veto should be easily quashed and the bill enacted.  The SEIU is so apopleptic about this legislation that they've taken to namecalling.  Our House Speaker is William O'Brien, but they refer to him as "Bully" O'Brien because he's "bullying" people into voting for this legislation. 

It's like grade school.  I love it.

But none of that is what I find awesome about this email.  I'm more drawn to the second item they discuss, NH Senate Bill 125, which is, "AN ACT relative to the business profits tax deduction for reasonable compensation."  It repeals an earlier act related to "Reasonable Compensation" business tax deductions and reenacts it with new language.  The crux of the bill is as follows:

"In the case of a proprietorship, partnership, or limited liability company filing a business profits tax return as a proprietorship, partnership, or limited liability company, a deduction equal to a fair and reasonable compensation for the personal services of a natural person who is a proprietor, partner, or member provided to the business organization..."

I bet you can already guess what the SEIU's party line against this legislation is. 

The fiscal note to SB 125 predicts that the bill would cost New Hampshire about $50 million in business profits tax revenue each year.

Fifty million dollars is a substantial chunk of the stateÂ’s revenue. This one bill goes a long way toward explaining why the LegislatureÂ’s revenue projections were so pessimistic.

Fifty million dollars also happens to be the same amount of money that the Legislature wants to cut from state employee wages. Rep. Neal Kurk’s attacks on the SEA and other public employee unions were supposed to be “a way to trim state employee wage costs by $50 million.”
 
Fifty million dollars out of our pockets,
and into the pockets of LLC executives.

(Bold, red font theirs, other emphasis mine)

Get it?  Instead of the state getting all that yummy, yummy money, it's STOLEN from the treasury -  literally taken from the pockets of our State workers! - by those GREEDY LLC EXECS.  I bet they're all named Koch and meet in secret cabals with likeminded villains who are bent on destroying the world through corporate profits. 

Also, here's the full text of that fiscal note they mention.  The one that says this bill will cost the state $50 million, as the SEIU breathlessly tells us.

The Department of Revenue Administration states this bill will decrease state revenue by $49,430,000 in FY 2012 and each year thereafter. There will be no fiscal impact on county and local revenue or state, county, and local expenditures.

Emphasis mine, because of course they're not going to mention that.  I suspect the $50 million is, as they DO mention, expected to come from employee cuts, but trust me when I say there's plenty of deadwood that can be trimmed.  Hell, rent alone could take a big chunk out of our budget shortfalls.  NH's departments are scattered all over the place, especially in Concord.  Consolidating would take a hefty splash of money and time in the short term, but long term it would be a huge savings; especially if some of the freed-up space was sold to private industry. 

But wait, there's more!

Between now and May 18th, please contact your Representatives and let them know what you think about this bill. Cutting $50 million from the state budget – to create a loophole in the state’s business profits tax law – to allow LLCs to avoid paying their fair share of corporate taxes – is simply outrageous.

You know what's simply outrageous?  That these people can get out of bed in the morning, look at themselves in the mirror, and not say, "Oh my God, I'm the stupidest creature to ever walk on two legs.  How did I become such a vapid waste of space?"  Pray tell, what is an LLC's "fair share" of corporate taxes, if not that which is designated by the legislature?  Why do I have the feeling the SEIU's answer would be, "Any and all profit should become part of the State's revenue stream where it can do the most good for people."

Amazing.  Just amazing.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:26 AM (4df7R)

170 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 09:17 AM (M9Ie6)

California wasn't bad. Very few restrictions on liquor licenses, and they weren't expensive, so small restaurants could get them. And store purchases were similarly easy. Safeway carried everything; as long as you got there before 2:00am you could have that G&T with a beer chaser!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:27 AM (LH6ir)

171 MADD has become a vengeance-driven organization designed to punish drinkers. I know a few horror stories from acquaintances that are about as bad as you can get. It's a good cautionary tale about giving anybody 'absolute moral authority'. What's the rule? that any organization that isn't openly declared conservative from the onset will drift leftward?

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 05:28 AM (Kggtu)

172 5 Well, there goes Arnie's link to 'Camelot'. He must finally have realized he isn't going to be president.
__________

His only real hope was that Obama didn't release his birth certificate and nobody cared.

(sorry; couldn't resist)

Posted by: Anachronda at May 10, 2011 05:28 AM (6fER6)

173 They should target repeat offenders then.

That's certainly true.

I've become a light weight in my old age, so I won't drive if I've had more than one beer over a two-hour dinner.  Mr Y-not is also super careful, although obviously he can handle a bit more than that.  I'm sure if one of us were 0.001% over the limit they'd throw the book at us - and pretty much destroy our lives - but on a daily basis I read about DUIs involving repeat offenders or even folks with other "substance abuse" issues. 

Last year there was a heroin addict, repeat offender, who tested for H as well as being over the limit when he took out a pedestrian (the dance instructor I mentioned above).  She's still in rehab but can't work and he just got probation.  The LDS culture here is really into forgiveness, but even the victim sounded mad about the light sentence. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 05:28 AM (pW2o8)

174 He is.  Just don't confuse Intelligence (being able to make plans) for Wisdom (being able to choose the right plan).  He initally ran as an outsider college professor who was going to go back to the Constitution.

You are going to make me stat that fool.  I may not be able to forgive that.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at May 10, 2011 05:28 AM (GBXon)

175

RE: Chinese parts.

Chinese parts run the goddamn networks all over the US. All over.

We may design them, but they make them.

Won't be too long now.

Posted by: Rev Dr E Buzz at May 10, 2011 05:29 AM (tcSZb)

176 What's the rule? that any organization that isn't openly declared conservative from the onset will drift leftward?

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 09:28 AM (Kggtu)

Damn skippy.

Posted by: Rush H. Limbaugh at May 10, 2011 05:29 AM (1fanL)

177 12Now we are undertaxed and only pay 14% of GDP. If you read this stupid article and think between the lines you would see why there could be a drop as compared to GDP. Remember that GDP includes government spending.
__________

The obvious answer: tax the government.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 10, 2011 05:29 AM (6fER6)

178 Where are you from (in OH)?  How many moron Buckeyes are there?

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 09:15 AM (penCf)

Waves hand from the Soviet republic of Cleveland Heights

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 05:30 AM (wX23+)

179

This unfair profiling – nee racist profiling – of the broad based group of individuals who innocently wish only to talk to airline pilots, must be stopped! 

What monsters have we allowed ourselves to become?

Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at May 10, 2011 05:30 AM (jx2j9)

180 97 52% of Republicans Want a Third Party

 

Interesting. I guess even the establishment pubbies will have to listen to the TEA party or go the way of the Neanderthal. I doubt seriously this will have any affect on Lugar, McCain and miss lindsay.

Posted by: Goober at May 10, 2011 08:50 AM (Q5+Og)

Pretty sure it will have an effect on the next election if it gains headway, hello 2nd term....We are sooo boned

Posted by: Red Shirt at May 10, 2011 05:30 AM (FIDMq)

181 Posted by: RightWingProf at May 10, 2011 08:56 AM (og2Qz)


Damn.  Words seem really inadequate.

The Hole in the Wall Gang Camp does amazing things.


As one way to mark his passing, on May 29th, I'll be riding in a 50 mile bike ride (pretty much along the eastern border of Connecticut from North To South) to help raise funds for the Hole in The Wall Gang Camp.


Do you have a goal you are trying to reach?  How many bikers are participating?


As an aside, my nephew Jacob died from the same cancer as my son, and he also spent many weeks at the camp (it's only a half-hour from my sister's house).


That is sad crazy.  How rare is that?  Did your son get to go to camp?  How are you and your sister (and family) holding up.  I offered up some prayers for all of you. 

Do we have till the 29th to donate? I can't today but I will check out the link (can't watch the vid. or I'll just cry all day) when I can. 

Good luck to you.  I hope you are able to raise a great bit of money.  It is a worthy cause.

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:31 AM (penCf)

182 Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 09:20 AM (WkuV6)

Nothing has been banned...yet.

The precedent for federal oversight on an in-state activity has been visited and approved by the SCOTUS.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:31 AM (LH6ir)

183 Why does the Obama Administration hate third world orphans?

Posted by: Fritz at May 10, 2011 05:31 AM (GwPRU)

184

The obvious answer: tax the government.

Posted by: Anachronda at May 10, 2011 09:29 AM (6fER6)

Instapundit had an awesome proposal.  Every Representative, for each budget he votes on, has to count 1/535th of that year's deficit as taxable income.

That's so awesome, it'll never happen.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:32 AM (1fanL)

185 Trouble is, if an accident occurs and even if it isn't your fault, you're screwed

Setting aside the MADD stuff for a bit (which I now realize was the main thrust of what you folks were talking about), in terms of "fault," if you have an accident when you're over the legal limit - yeah, you're screwed.  But to me that's just a risk you assume if you drive under those circumstances.  It may not be fair, but neither is it fair that if my front bumper touches your car I'm automatically at fault, even if you crossed my path illegally or stopped without warning. 

But, yeah, I agree that there appears to be a very poor application of drunk driving laws and punishments.  It's always struck me that it's the upstanding citizens who suffer the most from a single incident, while the perpetual drunks keep driving. 

And, yeah, we were t-boned by a drunk back in Houston.  DA called us for our opinion on what to do to the guy, but didn't take it, which was worse than if he hadn't called us at all. 

I will say my husband has hired two people who had DUIs and both wound up being bad employees.  So maybe if your judgment is that bad behind the wheel it says something about you. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 05:34 AM (pW2o8)

186 "And I'm a pro-law enforcement conservative."

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 09:24 AM (1fanL)

I have become an anti-law enforcement conservative.

The cops are becoming the enforcement arm of an increasingly authoritarian state, and I don't like it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:35 AM (LH6ir)

187 Where are you from (in OH)?  How many moron Buckeyes are there?

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 09:15 AM (penCf)

SW Ohio...east of Cincy\

There are several that I'm aware of

Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 05:35 AM (AnTyA)

188 Instapundit had an awesome proposal. Every Representative, for each budget he votes on, has to count 1/535th of that year's deficit as taxable income. He also has an idea that any high level Gov. Employee (appointments and the like) need to pay a 50% tax when they leave Gov. Service and get a place holder job at some private corporation.. Peter Orzag would qualify...

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 05:35 AM (Kggtu)

189 Regarding MADD, their quarrel should be against the fuckheads who continue to drive with pulled licenses because the municipalities won't enforce the existing laws until they kill somebody.  So the harridans hector the states to lower the driving impaired limit to 50% of the previous level which just enables the fuzznuts to pick up people who drank a couple beers at random checkpoints and criminalize unimpaired driving.  Meanwhile the people causing the original situation don't change their behavior.  And the MFM loves MADD.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 05:37 AM (wX23+)

190 My wife told me I was only allowed on the boards to tell you all to not talk about her. Truce?

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 05:37 AM (VoSja)

191 82 Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 08:40 AM (K2wpv)

What was your old handle?  It is driving me crazy trying to think of it.  You had 2 or 3 you liked to use years ago.

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 08:43 AM (penCf)

 

I hope you're still here, momma.  I was "ATNorth" for a while.  But I simplified it.  I'm thinking about changing it again, but people know me as Truman so it's dicey.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:38 AM (K2wpv)

192

Hi, Vic!  I looked up your South Carolina liquor law regarding sales on election day.  Here's the language:

SECTION 61-6-4160. Sunday sales; election day. [SC ST SEC 61-6-4160]

It is unlawful to sell alcoholic liquors on Sunday except as authorized by law, on statewide election days, or during periods proclaimed by the Governor in the interest of law and order or public morals and decorum. Full authority to proclaim these periods is conferred upon the Governor in addition to all his other powers. A person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and, upon conviction, must be punished as follows:

(a) for a first offense, by a fine of two hundred dollars or imprisonment for sixty days;

(b) for a second offense, by a fine of one thousand dollars or imprisonment for one year; and

(c) for a third or subsequent offense, by a fine of two thousand dollars or imprisonment for two years.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:39 AM (4df7R)

193

Hey guys.

I have some different opportunities available to me after graduation.  I could work for American Enterprise, Manhattan Institute, or Cato.  In each case, it would be a paid internship in public policy analysis.  Any of these more interesting than the others?

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:39 AM (K2wpv)

194

I have become an anti-law enforcement conservative.

The cops are becoming the enforcement arm of an increasingly authoritarian state, and I don't like it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 09:35 AM (LH6ir)

Well, I'm pro-law enforcement, but anti-law enforcement officer.  They're just like the politicians.  There are so many laws, and they have so much power over you, and human nature being what it is, there are plenty of assholes who don't do their job in good faith.

Instapundit has been posting a ton of links to stories of people who were perfectly within their rights to video cops, but who got fucked with anyway.  Cops don't believe that serve and protect stuff anymore.


Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:40 AM (1fanL)

195 197 My wife told me I was only allowed on the boards to tell you all to not talk about her. Truce?

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 09:37 AM (VoSja)


Get some nuts. Fool.


Posted by: Mr. T at May 10, 2011 05:41 AM (EL+OC)

196 I have some different opportunities available to me after graduation.  I could work for American Enterprise, Manhattan Institute, or Cato.

Some nice choices.  I know AE and Cato...don't know much about Manhattan Institute.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 05:41 AM (VuLos)

197 Last year there was a heroin addict, repeat offender, who tested for H as well as being over the limit when he took out a pedestrian (the dance instructor I mentioned above)

That would have been a felony DUI here and the guy would have gone to prison for a long time.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:41 AM (M9Ie6)

198

Waves hand from the Soviet republic of Cleveland Heights

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 09:30 AM (wX23+)


Damn.  Isn't that area seeing a lot more crime and gang violence?  I *thought* it was that area.  That the crap from Clev. was 'branching out' (the term the used on the news a few weeks back when they were trying to show Coleman was awesome because his crime wasn't spilling out past Columbus city limits).

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:41 AM (penCf)

199 So, we're being visited by Chocolate Jesus today. Just a quick stop on his whirlwind AMNESTY NOW! tour. (Which, btw, is a thinly disguised campaign stop paid for by you the taxpayers.)

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:42 AM (LFiVW)

200

I have some different opportunities available to me after graduation.  I could work for American Enterprise, Manhattan Institute, or Cato.  In each case, it would be a paid internship in public policy analysis.  Any of these more interesting than the others?

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:39 AM (K2wpv)


Have no clue, but good job.  How awesome!

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:43 AM (penCf)

201 I could work for American Enterprise, Manhattan Institute, or Cato.  

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:39 AM (K2wpv)

Nice.  Very nice for a Moron.  The pay is comparable?  Do you know who you'll be working with at each one?  Who do you want to work with?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:43 AM (1fanL)

202 Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 09:42 AM (LFiVW)


Yeah, but relish in the fact that Perry turned BO down.

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:43 AM (penCf)

203 Apparently, there is a dearth of young conservatives coming out of colleges who are interested in influencing the public sector.  Who would have thought?

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:43 AM (K2wpv)

204

The cops are becoming the enforcement arm of an increasingly authoritarian state, and I don't like it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 09:35 AM (LH6ir)

Exactly.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 05:44 AM (OlN4e)

205 Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 09:39 AM (4df7R)

I wonder how I missed that?

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:45 AM (M9Ie6)

206 Who would have thought?

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:43 AM (K2wpv)

Heh.  Why don't you have posting privileges here, Darth Moron?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:45 AM (1fanL)

207 The CATO is pro amnesty, IIRC.. Very libertarian in their views.. So take that under consideration..

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 05:45 AM (Kggtu)

208 Stop screwing with the controls.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 05:46 AM (qIHlG)

209 Lightning strike, my ass. Which one of you Ohio Morons torched Touchdown Jesus?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2011 05:46 AM (rGcPc)

210

I hope you're still here, momma.  I was "ATNorth" for a while.  But I simplified it.  I'm thinking about changing it again, but people know me as Truman so it's dicey.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:38 AM (K2wpv)


Yes! That is it.  Thank you, it was driving me crazy.  I've been trying to remember the old handles (why, I have no clue).

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 05:46 AM (penCf)

211 our pd spends it's time targeting parents dropping their children off at school and people driving to and from work......my son asked me yesterday why they do that...i told him.....no idea....we pay their salaries....they know people are hurting right now and they are writing chicken shit tickets.....these are not wreckless speeding tickets they are writing ...they are 1 and 2 miles over the 15mph double fine when kids are in school tickets....unlawful unloading....high school kids exiting their parents cars at a red light ..... they are writing them because they can......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 10, 2011 05:46 AM (eOXTH)

212 FUBAR:  I have made exactly one front-page post on AoS.  I'm very proud of having a writing credit here, even though it's functionally useless out in the Real World.  To me, it means more than any other credential I may have to have had a chance to put up a piece here.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:47 AM (K2wpv)

213 The trouble was, he didn't know how much the MSM was his enemy.  They really only focused on him once he got into office and then it was just brutal.  He tried too hard to be liked and work with Democrats for the good of the country.  Wisdom would have told him to keep it simple, don't explain too much, too far ahead and treat these fucks like the fucks they are.  As the old saying goes, "He fucked up.  He trusted them."  Then he ends up resigning (Wisdom fail, he should have fought it out).  And then became a pudit (Wisdom fail, he should have dropped back into the party as elder statesman and organized).

Posted by: Warthog at May 10, 2011 09:22 AM (WDySP)

Newt's ego has its own gravitational field which means he's attracted to the MFM like a moth to a flame.  The funniest thing I've ever heard about him came from, of all people, squishy Medved who knew one of his staffers.  When he was moving either into or out of the Speaker's office, he had a giant and smaller transfile boxes to be moved.  The huge one was labeled "Big Ideas" and the smaller one was titled "Really Big Ideas".

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 05:47 AM (wX23+)

214 Yeah, but relish in the fact that Perry turned BO down.


You betcha!

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:47 AM (LFiVW)

215 they are writing them because they can......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 10, 2011 09:46 AM (eOXTH)

They're writing them because cities are broke.

Posted by: Tami at May 10, 2011 05:48 AM (VuLos)

216 in terms of "fault," if you have an accident when you're over the legal limit - yeah, you're screwed.  But to me that's just a risk you assume if you drive under those circumstances.

I don't think you realize how screwed you can become.  Because of zero-tolerance, someone just over the legal limit involved in a vehicle accident with an injury is treated the same as someone who is two or three times over the legal limit.  This is silly, considering we know someone just over the legal limit is not as impaired as someone massively over it.  For that matter, the legal limit is arbitrary.

The problem is that zero-tolerance laws are too strict.  The legal limit is too low and the punishments are too severe for people just over the legal limit.  But groups like MADD have parlayed 'absolute moral authority' into pushing an agenda of punishing people who drink alcohol.  The heavy drinkers are still out there and haven't been stopped by it at all.

 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 10, 2011 05:48 AM (FkKjr)

217
Hope they fast track this so the games can continue on to the SC.

At first blush, I thought this meant Stanley Cup. D'oh!

Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at May 10, 2011 05:48 AM (1hM1d)

218 212 Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 09:39 AM (4df7R)

I wonder how I missed that?

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 09:45 AM (M9Ie6)

It's pretty buried.  I think I was only able to find it because I'm used to trawling through pages of legislation.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:48 AM (4df7R)

219

How is Newt Ginigrich allowed to run with all those wives/ex-wives? Does he have to ask them all for permission to run?

I'll call a pre-emptive truce with Gingrich as well.

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 05:49 AM (VoSja)

220 our pd spends it's time targeting parents dropping their children off at school and people driving to and from work......my son asked me yesterday why they do that...i told him.....no idea....we pay their salaries....they know people are hurting right now and they are writing chicken shit tickets.....these are not wreckless speeding tickets they are writing ...they are 1 and 2 miles over the 15mph double fine when kids are in school tickets....unlawful unloading....high school kids exiting their parents cars at a red light ..... they are writing them because they can......


Sign of a troubled economy. The second largest revenue stream for local governments are traffic fines. (Property taxes are number one).

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:49 AM (LFiVW)

221

my son asked me yesterday why they do that...i told him.....no idea....we pay their salaries

Revenue.  They need the money and they know parents wich children both have a vested interest in not being scofflaws, and probably don't have the time to fight the tix.

If speeding and traffic infraction tickets were intellectually honest, they would put all revenue collected into escrow and pay it out evenly to state licenced drivers without infractions at the end of the fiscal year.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:50 AM (K2wpv)

222 Zero tolerance laws/policies are written by those with zero ability to think, so they aren't required to do what they cannot do anyway.

Posted by: maddogg at May 10, 2011 05:51 AM (OlN4e)

223 Here is our latest DUI travesty:

If the person's alcohol concentration is sixteen one-hundredths of one percent or more, then the person must be punished by a fine of one thousand dollars or imprisonment for not less than thirty days nor more than ninety days. However, in lieu of the thirty-day minimum imprisonment, the court may provide for thirty days of public service employment. The minimum thirty days imprisonment or public service employment must be served at a time when the person is not working and does not interfere with his regular employment under terms and conditions as the court considers proper. However, the court may not compel an offender to perform public service employment instead of the thirty-day minimum sentence. Notwithstanding the provisions of Sections 22-3-540, 22-3-545, and 22-3-550, a first offense charged for this item may be tried in magistrates court;

So first offense with a 0.16 you get 30 - 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

< 0.16  you get $400 and 48 hours.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:51 AM (M9Ie6)

224 Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 09:40 AM (1fanL)

I firmly believe that all public employees should be videotaped during the course of their work day, and that they have no right of refusal. They are given authority over us, and with that authority comes responsibility. Videotaping is simply one way of holding them responsible for their actions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:51 AM (LH6ir)

225 218 our pd spends it's time targeting parents dropping their children off at school and people driving to and from work......my son asked me yesterday why they do that...i told him.....no idea....we pay their salaries....they know people are hurting right now and they are writing chicken shit tickets.....these are not wreckless speeding tickets they are writing ...they are 1 and 2 miles over the 15mph double fine when kids are in school tickets....unlawful unloading....high school kids exiting their parents cars at a red light ..... they are writing them because they can......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 10, 2011 09:46 AM (eOXTH)

Follow the money.  When tickets start getting written for puny offenses, it's because someone up the chain has said, "Get the cops to bring in more dough.  If that means ticketing granny because she parked in front of a fire hydrant to unload her groceries so grandpa wouldn't have to walk too far on his bad hip, do it."

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:51 AM (4df7R)

226  Lightning strike, my ass.

Which one of you Ohio Morons torched Touchdown Jesus?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 10, 2011 09:46 AM (rGcPc)

Heh!

A few years ago when my nephew was in town on break from the academy, he and his friends were out partying til the wee hours...and when daylight hit, they decided to video themselves trying to dropkick a football through the arms .

I am sooo fucking proud

Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 05:53 AM (AnTyA)

227 I firmly believe that all public employees should be videotaped during the course of their work day, and that they have no right of refusal. They are given authority over us, and with that authority comes responsibility. Videotaping is simply one way of holding them responsible for their actions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 09:51 AM (LH6ir)

Absolutely.  A public official performing his job has no expectation of privacy.  It's ridiculous.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:53 AM (1fanL)

228 The problem is that zero-tolerance laws are too strict. The legal limit is too low and the punishments are too severe for people just over the legal limit. But groups like MADD have parlayed 'absolute moral authority' into pushing an agenda of punishing people who drink alcohol. The heavy drinkers are still out there and haven't been stopped by it at all. I can see the first offense-- if someone doesn't have any prior record-- to be a ticket.. Something significant but not life changing.. Should someone show a pattern of behavior.. domestic dispute calls.. repeat traffic offender.. substance abuse,.. Then bring out the big fines and jail time for the guy. But not the dad who took his family out for pizza and had a second beer for dinner.

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 05:54 AM (Kggtu)

229

There's a crackpipe story in the sidebar.

I didn't know this was a "thing"

My local convenience stores all double as head shops.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:54 AM (K2wpv)

230 Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 09:41 AM (M9Ie6)

Ah, yes; the fascist, redneck South. Here in enlightened New Jersey we would take the poor innocent driver (it wasn't his fault!) and rehabilitated him with a combination of neglect and welfare payments. It is a much more civilized way than actually holding people responsible for their behavior. Why else would he vote democrat?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 05:55 AM (LH6ir)

231 I am now remembering why I don't eat at Jack-In-The-Box. I could have downed a 5th of Val-U-Rite last night and felt better this morning than I do now.

I'll be in the corner puking.

Posted by: jcjimi - learning slowly. at May 10, 2011 05:55 AM (xgtN5)

232

I have some different opportunities available to me after graduation.  I could work for American Enterprise, Manhattan Institute, or Cato.  In each case, it would be a paid internship in public policy analysis.  Any of these more interesting than the others?

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:39 AM (K2wpv)

When I graduated, many eons ago, I worked at Empower America.  Be aware, the pay is likely to suck, so you will need to think about a cheap way of living in DC, probably forgo a car, and get a part-time gig at night.  (I stocked shelves at Giant, bartending/waiting is bad.)  Those places are not a career - they are stepping stones.  Use them to first identify where you want to work, then make contacts, and move on - hopefully into a 2013 Republican administration. 

You will also find the most important secondary skill you can have for any organization or politician is fundraising.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 05:55 AM (WkuV6)

233

Microsoft buying Skype.

Expect the frontend to get confusing and the bill to go up

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:55 AM (K2wpv)

234

Damn.  Isn't that area seeing a lot more crime and gang violence?  I *thought* it was that area.  That the crap from Clev. was 'branching out' (the term the used on the news a few weeks back when they were trying to show Coleman was awesome because his crime wasn't spilling out past Columbus city limits).

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 09:41 AM (penCf)

Kind of although it's not nearly as bad as the shithole of East Cleveland.  Still there are a lot of libs that hold sway in the local gubbiment so it's worse than it should be.  The cops are generally fairly kickass and don't take shit so it hasn't gotten out of control.  The public schools are total garbage (I sent my youngest Hatette to private school) so I'd be outta here if it wasn't an empty nest.

The Cleveland Clinic expanding has forced a lot of low income people out into the inner ring 'burbs.  Still the shitty economic climate has just forced a lot of people out of the whole fucking area.  It's not nearly as bad as Detroit, for example; except to Detroit's credit they've dropped so fucking low that they're starting to kick out all the shitty pols that ruined the city, and Cleveland hasn't done that yet.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 05:55 AM (wX23+)

235 And if they really wanted to prevent DUIs, they could.  They have devices that attach to your steering wheel and won't let the car start unless you blow and pass.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:56 AM (1fanL)

236 I firmly believe that all public employees should be videotaped during the course of their work day, and that they have no right of refusal. They are given authority over us, and with that authority comes responsibility. Videotaping is simply one way of holding them responsible for their actions.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at May 10, 2011 09:51 AM (LH6ir)

The issue there is that you start getting into privacy issues.  Not with the employees, but with whoever they may be interacting with and the data they work with.  It's especially tricky when you start talking about health and human services (HIPAA), or education (FERPA). 

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:56 AM (4df7R)

237 Here is our latest DUI travesty:


Texas was considering expanding their DUI to include impaired driving which would include OTC medications, sleep deprivation, sickness....not sure if it went anywhere or not. Think it was connected to the checkpoints legislation.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:56 AM (LFiVW)

Posted by: Barbarian at May 10, 2011 05:57 AM (EL+OC)

239 Checkpoints have to be unconstitutional.  Really.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 05:57 AM (K2wpv)

240 And if they really wanted to prevent DUIs, they could.  They have devices that attach to your steering wheel and won't let the car start unless you blow and pass.


I've read too many cases where mom would have one of the kids blow to start the car and then she'd drive around shitfaced with the kids in the car.

Need to get some kind of DNA specific test.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 05:58 AM (LFiVW)

241 242 And if they really wanted to prevent DUIs, they could.  They have devices that attach to your steering wheel and won't let the car start unless you blow and pass.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 09:56 AM (1fanL)

Or get your uninebriated daughter/son/wife/husband/neighbor/dog to blow into it for you.  There's always a way to game the system, unfortunately.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 05:58 AM (4df7R)

242 They have devices that attach to your steering wheel and won't let the car start unless you blow and pass.

Some States require those to be attached to cars of repeat offenders. But here they simply confiscate the car of repeat offenders.

And woe to yee if you loan a car to a repeat offender.


Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 05:58 AM (M9Ie6)

243

#245

I'm considering a same-sex marriage so that I can jusitfy a male advisor on my campaign.

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 05:59 AM (VoSja)

244 Those liquid rose crack pipes are sold here as well.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 05:59 AM (qIHlG)

245 Checkpoints have to be unconstitutional.  Really.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:57 AM (K2wpv)

Including the ones in airports.  Some clever person on the internet sells clothes with the 4th amendment written in lead so it'll show up on x-rays.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 05:59 AM (1fanL)

246

If speeding and traffic infraction tickets were intellectually honest, they would put all revenue collected into escrow and pay it out evenly to state licenced drivers without infractions at the end of the fiscal year.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 09:50 AM (K2wpv)

You may have a bit of CATO in you ... although the lack of a spell checker will get you bounced.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 05:59 AM (WkuV6)

247 US Navy OK's Same Sex Marriages In Military Chapels. Posted by: Barbarian at May 10, 2011 09:57 AM (EL+OC) Yeah I read that. But... 1) I can't really believe that is legal since DOMA is still in effect and there is this Republican Congressman who is trying to do something about that 2) I really don't think many Sailors who are gay want to come that far out of the closet 3) Not sure how many of the Navy Chaplains will be willing to do that

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 06:00 AM (i6RpT)

248 Checkpoints have to be unconstitutional.  Really.


You'd think. But they keep finding ways to set 'em up. And of course, there's no limitation. They can't word it so that the only the cops can check for is if you've been drinking. They can ask for your license and insurance and if you don't have it, guess what? Which essentially makes driving down the road probable cause.

Reminds me of the old war movies with the Nazi soldiers asking citizens for their papers.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 06:01 AM (LFiVW)

249 250

#245

I'm considering a same-sex marriage so that I can jusitfy a male advisor on my campaign.

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 09:59 AM (VoSja)

How big is he?



Posted by: Mrs. Damiels at May 10, 2011 06:01 AM (EL+OC)

250 Texas was considering expanding their DUI to include impaired driving which would include OTC medications, sleep deprivation, sickness..

The wording in ours already does that, except that they only enforce booze, drugs (legal or illegal). The wording is drugs or alcohol to the point of impairment.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 06:01 AM (M9Ie6)

251

Can't decide if it was a joke piece or what, but read that Ahnald could be batting for the other team. Wondering about that one.

Posted by: Who Knows at May 10, 2011 06:02 AM (1cx/R)

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 06:02 AM (XdlcF)

253 Reminds me of the old war movies with the Nazi soldiers asking citizens for their papers.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 10:01 AM (LFiVW)

Ve haff vays of making you blow!

Posted by: Colonel Klink at May 10, 2011 06:02 AM (1fanL)

254 The case for Pawlenty @NRO

http://tinyurl.com/3w99kvz

Posted by: Shiggz at May 10, 2011 06:03 AM (mLAWK)

255 Checkpoints have repeatedly been ruled OK here because of the "implied consent" rule.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 06:03 AM (M9Ie6)

256 I've read too many cases where mom would have one of the kids blow to start the car and then she'd drive around shitfaced with the kids in the car.

Need to get some kind of DNA specific test.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 09:58 AM (LFiVW)

If they can ever make a cheap, simple DNA test, that would be the way to go.  At the moment I think it'd be prohibitively expensive, given the equipment that would be needed, the installation required, and the necessary calibrations.

I'm surprised they haven't managed to work out a simple DNA test yet, to be honest.  Just think about how many episodes of daytime talk shows revolve around babymama's wanting to find out which of their past boyfriends is their kid's babydaddy, and therefore on the hook for child support.  If you've got some venture capital lying around, maybe try and invest in that.  I imagine the demand would be HUGE.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:03 AM (4df7R)

257

Don't worry honey. He's a doctor!

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 06:03 AM (VoSja)

258

How is Newt Ginigrich allowed to run with all those wives/ex-wives? Does he have to ask them all for permission to run?

I'll call a pre-emptive truce with Gingrich as well.


OK, that is funny

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 06:04 AM (+sBB4)

259 The Cleveland Clinic expanding has forced a lot of low income people out into the inner ring 'burbs.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 09:55 AM (wX23+)



I was in and out of the Clinic for two years, and every time they'd casually give me a list of where 'not to go'.  Every visit that list was longer than the one given me the last visit.

Have you ever had a reuben from that shitty, little, hard to find because it sits on a the corner of a tiny street and an alley, downtown deli?  I forget what it is called, but I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about.  Those sandwiches were awesome, huge and tasty!

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 06:05 AM (penCf)

260 Checkpoints have repeatedly been ruled OK here because of the "implied consent" rule.

Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 10:03 AM (M9Ie6)

Heh.  One of my law school teachers on "implied" things:  if something is implied, you know that whatever it is, it isn't that something.  You don't know what an implied cow is, but you know for certain that it isn't a cow.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 06:06 AM (1fanL)

261 Bitch Spaniel.  I am officially taking credit for that.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 06:06 AM (K2wpv)

262 Headline: US to get crack at wives

So many possibilities

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 06:07 AM (+sBB4)

263 Did y'all see the article about Mitch Daniels talking about how wonderful federal interference in education is? I can find it if it wasn't already moaned about here.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 06:07 AM (XdlcF)

264

Based on the implied consent rule, I think date rape ought to be legal.

ugh

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 06:07 AM (K2wpv)

265 Yeah I read that. But...
1) I can't really believe that is legal since DOMA is still in effect and there is this Republican Congressman who is trying to do something about that
2) I really don't think many Sailors who are gay want to come that far out of the closet
3) Not sure how many of the Navy Chaplains will be willing to do that

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 10:00 AM (i6RpT)

I think it would probably only apply in those states that have legalized gay marriage. So if there's a Navy chapel in NH (I think there probably is, although Maine took our shipyard), then it would be legal there. 

But yeah, I don't see many sailors coming out that openly and getting hitched. 

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:08 AM (4df7R)

266 Headline: US to get crack at wives So many possibilities Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 10:07 AM (+sBB4) Not even with obama's dick! Never, Ever

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 06:08 AM (i6RpT)

267

I mean... dinner for two can be like $60 bucks

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 06:08 AM (K2wpv)

268 Yeah, it's from The Onion, but will bring teh funneh to you this morning.

Congress Passes "Americans with No Abilities" Act

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 10, 2011 06:08 AM (XK4nA)

269

#270

My wife once quit a job at a school, so I called for an 'education truce' with Democrats.

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 06:09 AM (VoSja)

270 FAIL.

Onion satire from '98.  Still....

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 10, 2011 06:09 AM (XK4nA)

271 I suspect they are just ignoring the law. Posted by: Vic at May 10, 2011 08:56 AM (M9Ie6) The law says they must sell or they may sell? Maybe the store made its own decision.

Posted by: eman: Japanese Babe Rescue Team at May 10, 2011 06:09 AM (hbKCI)

272 ...that blow thing to get your car started....this guy we know...he is a major alcoholic....he has one of those things...he and his wife are divorced because of his drinking...his kid is a in the same baseball league as my son....his ex wife was chastising him for showing up late to his sons game...and how upsetting to the boy it was....his excuse? the blow thing was faulty and was reading the fumes from his recently dyed hair...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 10, 2011 06:09 AM (eOXTH)

273 I think it would probably only apply in those states that have legalized gay marriage. So if there's a Navy chapel in NH (I think there probably is, although Maine took our shipyard), then it would be legal there. But yeah, I don't see many sailors coming out that openly and getting hitched. Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 10:08 AM (4df7R) Yes your correct about the State Law thing, but if the Chapel is on FEDERAL Property, like it is in Groton CT, DOMA should still apply? I know Obama/Holder are doing nothing to defend DOMA, but it is still the Law of the Land?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 06:10 AM (i6RpT)

274 So first offense with a 0.16 you get 30 - 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

0.16% BAC is pretty darned high.  I think it's twice the legal limit in most states. 

The guy who hit us was at about that level.  He was stumbling, incoherently drunk.  (The really annoying thing is that his passenger was much more lucid and probably could have driven safely.)

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 06:10 AM (pW2o8)

275

Chainsaw Dildo.

 

Think about that for a second.

 

How ruined for normal sex would that make a woman?

Posted by: Terry at May 10, 2011 06:10 AM (nyxv/)

276 Just received my first urgent warning from president Obama...

"We see you have been posting on that racist military blog"

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 06:10 AM (+sBB4)

277

I can't believe Petey has the nerve to go to Texas to speechify on immigration after he told them to go fuck themselves on disater aid for the wildfires

...that ain't gutsy...that's fucking asshole-sy

Posted by: beedubya at May 10, 2011 06:10 AM (AnTyA)

278 Have you ever had a reuben from that shitty, little, hard to find because it sits on a the corner of a tiny street and an alley, downtown deli?  I forget what it is called, but I'm pretty sure you know what I'm talking about.  Those sandwiches were awesome, huge and tasty!

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 10:05 AM (penCf)

I'm sure you're talking about Slyman's and the answer is of course Hellz yeah.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (wX23+)

279

I see in the sidebar that Northwestern Uni students will no longer have the opportunity to take that Human Sexuality class that featured the extracurricular "fucksaw" demonstration. 

My heart breaks for them.

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (4df7R)

280 his excuse? the blow thing was faulty and was reading the fumes from his recently dyed hair...

Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 10, 2011 10:09 AM (eOXTH)

The guy I knew used mouthwash as an excuse.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (1fanL)

281 “I really do want to salute and commend — and I’ve done it over and over — the president, Secretary Duncan, for a lot of leadership in this area,” he affirmed. “There is a federal role” in education, he argued. “I believe in national standards.”

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (XdlcF)

282

The law says they must sell or they may sell?

It seems to me that it would be hard to prove damages if a store decided categorically to not sell any particular product on a Sunday.  I guess it depends on how the statute is written.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (K2wpv)

283 Anything Bush did Obomba has to copy.  The Seals raided Pakistan back in 2006:

http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/207760.php

"SLAMABAD, Pakistan -- In the wake of Usama bin Laden's death, a former Pakistani intelligence officer Monday confirmed that US Navy SEALs launched a similar raid in Pakistan territory in 2006, targeting senior al Qaeda figure Ayman al Zawahiri."

Posted by: CUS at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (wOGfT)

284

If they can ever make a cheap, simple DNA test, that would be the way to go.  At the moment I think it'd be prohibitively expensive, given the equipment that would be needed, the installation required, and the necessary calibrations.

I'm surprised they haven't managed to work out a simple DNA test yet, to be honest.  Just think about how many episodes of daytime talk shows revolve around babymama's wanting to find out which of their past boyfriends is their kid's babydaddy, and therefore on the hook for child support.  If you've got some venture capital lying around, maybe try and invest in that.  I imagine the demand would be HUGE.




Well, it only costs about $60 to have DNA run on your dog to see what breed(s) are in there.  They do this to prove that your dog isn't a pit bull mix and therefore not subject to vicious dog rules.

So the testing itself is relatively inexpensive. If you had a device on the car that worked like a blood sugar tester. I small pinprick that takes a drop of blood and confirms that it's you and that there is no alcohol in your system. Then you can start your car.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 10, 2011 06:11 AM (LFiVW)

285 Yes your correct about the State Law thing, but if the Chapel is on FEDERAL Property, like it is in Groton CT, DOMA should still apply? I know Obama/Holder are doing nothing to defend DOMA, but it is still the Law of the Land?

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 10:10 AM (i6RpT)

Good point!

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:12 AM (4df7R)

286 Chicks dig gay dudes.

http://tinyurl.com/33qxfb

Posted by: The Todd at May 10, 2011 06:12 AM (xgtN5)

287 I also consider George W. Bush an ex as well. A comprehensive 'policies from the Bush era truce' in 2012!

Posted by: Mitch Daniels at May 10, 2011 06:13 AM (VoSja)

288 I thought DOMA just exempted states from recognizing gay marriages from other states.  It doesn't ban gay marriage, does it?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 06:13 AM (1fanL)

289 Wasn't a "chainsaw" dildo, but rather a dildo attached to a sawsall.  Just sayin'.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 10, 2011 06:14 AM (Orc9J)

290 0.16% BAC is pretty darned high.  I think it's twice the legal limit in most states. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 10:10 AM (pW2o

I think most states have a 0.08% BAC limit, so yeah, 0.16% is pretty high. 

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:15 AM (4df7R)

291 223 in terms of "fault," if you have an accident when you're over the legal limit - yeah, you're screwed.  But to me that's just a risk you assume if you drive under those circumstances.

I don't think you realize how screwed you can become.

--

No, I do.  And I agree that it seems as if they enforce DUI laws much more toughly on the people who are easy to control - ie; law-abiding people who make one mistake.  The repeat offenders - not so much. 

All I'm saying is that given that I think that is the case, we are extremely careful about drinking and driving. 

Fortunately, (!) it's so expensive to go out to eat that we rarely have more than one beer or glass of wine when we do so, anyway.  Plus, we're in Utah County, so that acts as a deterrent. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 06:15 AM (pW2o8)

292 I loved that movie, The Great Texas Dildo Massacre

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 06:15 AM (+sBB4)

Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 06:16 AM (penCf)

294 I thought DOMA just exempted states from recognizing gay marriages from other states. It doesn't ban gay marriage, does it? Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 10:13 AM (1fanL) I'm no Lawyer but: 1)The Defense of Marriage Act (Pub.L. 104-199, 110 Stat. 2419, enacted September 21, 1996, 1 U.S.C. § 7 and 28 U.S.C. § 1738C) is a United States federal law signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 21, 1996 whereby the federal government defines marriage as a legal union between one man and one woman. 2)Section 3. Definition of marriage In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the word 'marriage' means only a legal union between one man and one woman as husband and wife, and the word 'spouse' refers only to a person of the opposite sex who is a husband or a wife. 3)DOMA's Section 3 prevents the federal government from recognizing the validity of same-sex marriages. The General Accounting Office issued a report in 1997 identifying "1,049 federal statutory provisions classified to the United States Code in which benefits, rights, and privileges are contingent on marital status or in which marital status is a factor".

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 06:17 AM (i6RpT)

295 Don't fear the Reaper, guess we are back in business and all of those ruffled Paki feathers are back in place.

Posted by: Jean at May 10, 2011 06:17 AM (WkuV6)

296 The guy I knew used mouthwash as an excuse.

The Mythbusters busted that myth.  Clearly our law enforcement people need to watch more Discovery Channel! 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 06:17 AM (pW2o8)

297 A new national alert system is set to begin in New York City that will alert the public to emergencies via cell phones.

Presidential and local emergency messages as well as Amber Alerts would appear on cell phones equipped with special chips and software.

How long before somebody hacks Juggy's tweet acct./mechanism to rickroll NY'ers?  Any bets?



Posted by: Fritz at May 10, 2011 06:17 AM (GwPRU)

298 Pull out your one credit card that ain't maxed and let's help RightWingProf get over $1000. Now! If you're waiting for a wonderful cause, this is it.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at May 10, 2011 06:18 AM (j84s0)

299 Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 10:17 AM (i6RpT)

Wow.  Who knew Clinton was such a bigot?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 06:18 AM (1fanL)

300

How ruined for normal sex would that make a woman?

Such devices have been ruining marriages and society for the past 50 years!  Destroy them!  Banish them from existence!

/I could not resist, lol.  But to answer your question, I would say this might "spoil" a lass..

Posted by: Ken at May 10, 2011 06:19 AM (9hSKh)

301 Joe Biden.. Real man of genius.. ". . . the only thing that was more exciting than seeing you getting off is watching your families watch you all get off. . ."

Posted by: Dave C at May 10, 2011 06:20 AM (Kggtu)

302

I'm sure you're talking about Slyman's and the answer is of course Hellz yeah.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 10:11 AM (wX23+)


OMGolly that place has amazing food.  We waited in a long ass line, in the rain, but it was worth it. I thought my dad was going to disown me for not bringing him back anything.


Posted by: momma at May 10, 2011 06:20 AM (penCf)

303

Bought a new HD LED flatscreen yesterday.  The old TV died, and it was Mrs.'s birthday.

Anyway, last night, she remarked that she liked it so much, she wanted to have sex with it.  I replied that that is actually a thing-- that there are people who are sexually aroused by objects and even have sex with them.

Really?  She asked

Yep, I said, they call those people "women"

And then I ducked.

Posted by: Truman North at May 10, 2011 06:21 AM (K2wpv)

304 All text messages will begin "Our Glorious Leader Obama, who made the gutsy call on May 1, 2011 to kill OBL, and who believes in the safety of his minions, informs us that ..."

Posted by: Cherry π at May 10, 2011 06:21 AM (+sBB4)

305 Wow. Who knew Clinton was such a bigot? Posted by: FUBAR at May 10, 2011 10:18 AM (1fanL) I was against repealing DADT but I never really thought that repeal would matter all that much on the day to day activities of the US Navy or the rest of the Military for a whole host of reasons. HOWEVER when you couple that with a repeal of DOMA, which is what obama/holder want, that's opening up a whole can of worms that I think can and will be destructive

Posted by: nevergiveup at May 10, 2011 06:23 AM (i6RpT)

306

I'm always bemused when I'm driving along and I see an empty 30pack of Natural Ice on the side of the road. I think, "Aww.  Someone was drinking and driving here.  And they chose to litter to prove it!  How sweet!" 

I'm not a fan of over-stringent police action, but I am against people being that blatantly stupid.  Especially with such a crappy beer.

Of course, I'm not really a drinker (one drink every year or two, on average). 

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:23 AM (4df7R)

307 @284 I can't believe Petey has the nerve to go to Texas to speechify on immigration

Which reminds me, today is the day Utah's immigration law goes into effect.  It's the one with a small stick (cops have to run immigration status on serious offenses, although I don't know what constitutes serious) and the huge carrot (employers can sponsor an illegal on a work permit arranged somehow with a Mexican state). 

About a week ago the Utah County Republicans had a tumultuous meeting at which they passed a resolution demanding the law be overturned.  I believe several other of our counties have done the same thing.  We have a part-time legislature (it's like 6 or maybe 8 weeks) and they really rushed this bill through (also some others, one of which has already been put aside or over-turned or something; they also fucked up some budget stuff and passed something they didn't intend - we know some of the state legislators).  The governor signed it - disappointingly. 

Anyway, the amusing thing is reading in some of the comments of the Deseret News the Democrats slamming the Republicans in Utah County for not being Mormon-y enough.  Matheson, I believe, is quoted on the record saying how the Democrats are more in line with the LDS church than the Republicans are. 

I feel like I've fallen down the rabbit hole. 

Posted by: Y-not at May 10, 2011 06:24 AM (pW2o8)

308

304 A new national alert system is set to begin in New York City that will alert the public to emergencies via cell phones.

An alert system that will alert the public?  The deuce you say!

Have they never learned the core principle of writing a definition?  Namely that you don't use the term you are defining within the definition? 

Posted by: MWR at May 10, 2011 06:25 AM (4df7R)

309

Fritz

What are the odds that Obama campaign promos and appeals for donations "inadvertently" show up as "National Security Alerts" as the 2012 election draws near?

Posted by: Lincolntf at May 10, 2011 06:25 AM (xMT+4)

310

#284

Because the closest states to Texas demographically now are California and Nevada.

It will start to be difficult for a Republican Presidential candidate to carry Texas starting around 2020.

Posted by: Paper at May 10, 2011 06:27 AM (VoSja)

311 32 You never see Rosie O'Donnell and Michael Moore at the same time. Granted you would have to have a panoramic camera for that.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 10, 2011 07:45 AM (qIHlG)


You'd have to task the Hubble for that wide shot.


also, the Beatles sucked.

Posted by: Unclefacts Luxury-Yacht at May 10, 2011 07:19 AM (6IReR)

312 Is this blog going wonky?

Anybody else having problems with page loading?

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 10, 2011 07:41 AM (7+pP9)

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 10, 2011 07:47 AM (P+zzG)

314 Anybody else having problems with page loading?

Posted by: Ed Anger at May 10, 2011 11:41 AM (7+pP9)

Yes

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 10, 2011 07:50 AM (wX23+)

315 momma @188:
As one way to mark his passing, on May 29th, I'll be riding in a 50 mile bike ride (pretty much along the eastern border of Connecticut from North To South) to help raise funds for the Hole in The Wall Gang Camp.


Do you have a goal you are trying to reach?  How many bikers are participating?

I originally hoped to raise $1000, but I'm now shooting for $2000.

As an aside, my nephew Jacob died from the same cancer as my son, and he also spent many weeks at the camp (it's only a half-hour from my sister's house).


That is sad crazy.  How rare is that?  Did your son get to go to camp?  How are you and your sister (and family) holding up.  I offered up some prayers for all of you. 

The cancer (Neuroblastoma) is pretty rare - only about a couple hundred cases a year in the US.   So two in a family is pretty much unheard of.   In fact, having the two related cases was instrumental in his oncologist figure out some of the genetics behind predisposition to this beast.

As far as holding up, we manage.  She has three other kids, and we have our 10 yo daughter and a 2 year old (born 6 weeks before our son passed).  It helps when you have faith that this world is not all there is.

To add another wrinkle to the story, my younger brother also lost a child (21 year-old daughter) about 6 months before my son passed (and 18 months after my nephew).  On New Year's Eve day she went out driving in a snowstorm, drifted across the line and hit a truck.  So each sibling lost their eldest child within a 2 year time span (with the exception of my older brother who thankfully never contributed any material to the gene pool). .   It's pretty unbelievable - if you used this as the premise for a novel, it would be rejected as totally implausible.

Do we have till the 29th to donate? I can't today but I will check out the link (can't watch the vid. or I'll just cry all day) when I can. 

You're good until the 26th (they take a few days to post stuff up),   SO far, it looks like a Moron or two has already pitched in.  Sorry to cut into yur drinkin money gents, but I really appreciate it.

Good luck to you.  I hope you are able to raise a great bit of money.  It is a worthy cause.

Thanks - so far my team (5 people, all of who have a child with some experience w/cancer) has raised almost $4,000. 

Posted by: Unwashed Brit at May 10, 2011 07:58 AM (UOcNk)

316 @322

Off, damned sockpuppet

Posted by: RightwingProf at May 10, 2011 08:12 AM (UOcNk)

317 Now, which one of you turkeys broke teh InterWeb?

Posted by: RightwingProf at May 10, 2011 08:13 AM (UOcNk)

318
Re: breathalyzer car ignition interlock.

One of my neighbors here at my shop does the calibration on those systems. The drunks have to drive their car in to do cals every couple of weeks. NONE of them park in the parking spaces when they're waiting for their turn, they block access in the driveways all the time. About once a week I have to shoo away some DUI convicted miscreant who parks right in front of my open roll-up door.....and they always get pissy about it, like the world revolves around them. They wear an "I can do what I want, and I don't give a fuck if it inconveniences you" attitude on their sleeve, and it pisses me off.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 10, 2011 08:18 AM (7YzRS)

319 GOP seeks to redefine War on Terror

"Enacted over a lone dissenting vote just three days after the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon, the “Authorization for the Use of Military Force,” or AUMF, authorized President George W. Bush to use “all necessary and appropriate force” against those involved in the 9/11 attacks as well as anyone who harbored the perpetrators.

'ItÂ’s been a decadeÂ…. Bin Laden is gone. We need to update the law,' said Rep. Mac Thornberry (R-Texas.), whoÂ’s supporting language that he says would reaffirm and clarify the 2001 resolution. The proposal is part of the defense authorization bill House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) released Monday, which that panel is is set to mark up on Wednesday."

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at May 10, 2011 08:21 AM (P+zzG)

320 http://www.alcoholmonitoring.com/ + fingerprint scanner, coming to all ignition systems near you soon.

Posted by: Dave at May 10, 2011 08:49 AM (Fr52Z)

321 Some Tim Allen re. the Sawzall dildo

http://tinyurl.com/3ckhavt

I'll have to investigate the youtube timestamp thing sometime
See 2:25 & 3:58

Posted by: Dave at May 10, 2011 09:04 AM (Fr52Z)

323 fingerprint scanner, coming to all ignition systems near you soon.

I know someone who is trying to sell a 1943 Chevy truck.  It's looking better every day.

The economy in this area was depressed before the latest downturn began and for a long time things here have been slow but not catastrophic.  Suddenly in the last couple of months things have really gone to shit locally.  Many businesses have failed and nobody is renting the empty spaces.  Another couple of months like this and we will have a miniature Detroit.

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