May 12, 2011

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1 Sup.

Posted by: toby928™ at May 12, 2011 03:21 AM (GTbGH)

2 Debbie Wasserman-Schultz believes Representative Giffords will return to Congress.  Rick Klein tweeting this like it is news.  I didn't know Wasserman-Schultz was a doctor.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 03:21 AM (Fo83G)

3

Romney's attack on OBamacare

Nowhere in it does he own up on Romneycare. He makes a half-sass hint on “State” solutions but no more. On top of that what he advocates his “different” healthcare regulations.  Government regulations really are at the heart of our healthcare problems in this country now.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:25 AM (M9Ie6)

4

Remember when tiny Tim said we didn't need a debt ceiling increase because of larger tax revenues?

WASHINGTON -(Dow Jones)- The Treasury Department auctioned $56 billion in new debt Tuesday and Wednesday, enough to take the U.S. over its federal debt ceiling when the three- and 10-year notes settle on Monday.

So, as everyone here said, he was lying. Do we get to see someone charged with a federal crime for borrowing money not authorized to do? Ah DOJ has holder so thatÂ’s a big nugatory.  Well will we get to see Issa subpoena TurboTax Tim for a grilling on how he is violating the law?  Hahahahahaha, Issa is pussing out on everything.

 

We are boned. Debt limit, what debt limit. If a Republican were in office now he would have already been impeached for this kind of shit.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:26 AM (M9Ie6)

5

SC legislators want SC to go back on the gold standard

What a joke. How about first gaining control of the RINO Republicans in the legislature who used to be Dems and still believe in Tax and Spend, then talk about gold standard. Besides, look at NC. Someone just went to jail for that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:26 AM (M9Ie6)

6

Teh stupid continues to flourish with this adm

I hope nobody though CRA was going away and being allowed to die out with little fanfare because it caused the start of the problems leading to the financial collapse. We have seen continued reports on and off on individual items but here they want another push. Guess where this push is coming from?  If you said the racist DOJ you would be correct.

This is what happens when congress investigates problems that it caused, more of the same. Same thing with the 9-11 hearings. That was another Bush failure. He should have fought that tooth and nail and appointed a panel of security experts with a person trained in Root Cause Analyses acting as moderator. I would have volunteered. I can tell you now, establishing another huge federal bureaucracy to hide behind probably would not have been high on my proposed solutions.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:27 AM (M9Ie6)

7 Gotta love Kaus.  Especially on amnesty.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 03:29 AM (1fanL)

8

Attention OH Morons

Which one of you has these children?




Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:31 AM (M9Ie6)

9 Vic - I would have given the NTSB lead responsibility for the investigation; with temporary subpoena powers.  In recent years they have been able to articulate systemic errors that are comppounded by human factors - the report would have been comprehensive and incorporated solutions.

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 03:31 AM (7P7Ij)

10

Attention OH Morons

Which one of you has these children?

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 07:31 AM (M9Ie6)

You obviously hate Gaia.  We MUST curb greenhouse gas emissions.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 03:36 AM (1fanL)

11 Vic - I would have given the NTSB lead responsibility for the investigation; with temporary subpoena powers.

I would not have given ANY government agency the lead in investigating themselves.  It is pure human nature with most people but with government agencies it goes far beyond that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:37 AM (M9Ie6)

12 This is stand up and cheer great. Then at the end you die laughing. Great morning read before DOOM.
Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

Posted by: Marcus at May 12, 2011 03:37 AM (wipRO)

13 You obviously hate Gaia.  We MUST curb greenhouse gas emissions.

LOL, those kids were serial "farters" on the bus. They must be responsible for any warming that has occurred this year.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:38 AM (M9Ie6)

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:40 AM (M9Ie6)

15 Vic - the technical details and vast nature would seem to preclude a grand jury of regular citizens; they would have to be full time for a year or more - and be a fairly robust group of critical thinkers. Not sure where to find 45 or so people like that, except on the ONT.   Without structure and experience, the various agencies would have a field day bamboozling most people.  The NTSB has good reputation and some uber engineers who tend not to be fascinated by bullshit.

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 03:48 AM (7P7Ij)

16 does anyone think that Debbie Wasserman whatever will appeal to independents?  she is strident & an obvious liar.  worse than Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at May 12, 2011 03:51 AM (5TCB2)

17

What a joke. How about first gaining control of the RINO Republicans in the legislature who used to be Dems and still believe in Tax and Spend, then talk about gold standard. Besides, look at NC. Someone just went to jail for that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 07:26 AM (M9Ie6)

Amen.  This would accomplish nothing other than to encourage the federal government to seize privately held gold again.

The gold standard is just one more "magic bullet" fantasy that will solve nothing.  Indeed, making our currency convertible to a commodity in a world of fait currency is to invite exploitation.  It's been done to us before - France was draining our gold supply with a vengeance back in the bad old days. 

The real killer here is that if a state goes to a "gold standard" that may mean that they can demand payment for state services in gold, or those making claims to the state can demand gold.  That will quickly be proven unworkable.  If I have to make dollars at my job just to I can buy gold and then use said gold to go pay my property taxes or my car registration and such, then I'm moving the hell out of that state in a hurry.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 03:51 AM (xUM1Q)

Posted by: Mjim at May 12, 2011 03:52 AM (rN9Na)

19 This is stand up and cheer great. Then at the end you die laughing. Great morning read before DOOM.
Angry Mob Chases Would-Be Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

Posted by: Marcus at May 12, 2011 07:37 AM (wipRO)

Unfortunately, there are no good guys in this story.  The douchebag flag-burner is an LSU fan, and the douchebag crowd are all LSU fans.

Ever experienced any LSU fans first-hand?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 03:54 AM (1fanL)

20 Warning: first pic is very disgusting.

Students See Graphic Photos on Career Day


KELLER, Texas - Career day at a North Texas elementary school took a turn after children were exposed to some very graphic photos.

Denee Stockman said the presentation at her sonÂ’s school on the alternative medical field of iridology started out interesting because the guest speaker was talking about eye color and dominant genes. But then it got disturbing, she said.

She said during the talk last Friday the third graders at KellerÂ’s Friendship Elementary saw things they never should have seen, including the image of worms coming out of a nude womanÂ’s butt and worms in a manÂ’s exposed brain .

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 03:57 AM (penCf)

21 Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 07:48 AM (7P7Ij)

This is why I said make it up from a panel of security experts. People who know what they are doing in relation to terrorism and protecting from it.

The person trained in Root Cause Analysis would help in the "bamboozaling" aspect. I would trust a paenl such as this much more than ANY government panel.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 03:58 AM (M9Ie6)

22 Um, I can't log in to it right now, but we do keep a running "Suckers of Cock" list here, right? Well, add to it the State of M!ch!gan safety office director Michael L. Prince, who blames last year's unprecedented 8% rise in traffic fatalities on "last summer was one of the warmest on record." It's the motorcycles you see. Michigeese and Michiganders gist can't hold 'er on the road when it's hot out. Mort pour Le Recite: they died for the narrative.

Last winter was one of the coldest, too, which, if you were a dick, might account for the rise in snowmobile accidents...but if you were a dick, the safety office would be sucking you.

Meanwhile the state's motto Vinum Potest, Alcohol May Have Been A Factor, though widely quoted in obituaries, goes uncited. Hey Ernie Harwell died, why not blame him too?

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 03:59 AM (W5ilH)

23 I would not have given ANY government agency the lead in investigating themselves.  It is pure human nature with most people but with government agencies it goes far beyond that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 07:37 AM (M9Ie6)

Totally agree--there is a large pool of civilian experts in a variety of fields (retired contractors, ex-military, academics, etc.) that could have worked independently to evaluate 9/11.  Problem is that government is so compartmented that it would be hard for any such group to operate (see the problems the Congress has with subpoena power) and get access to information.  Besides each "Agency" has a vested interest in obscuring both their capabilities, sources, and involvement in anything.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2011 04:01 AM (yrGif)

24

Ever experienced any LSU fans first-hand?

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 07:54 AM (1fanL)


Ooh. I have.  Most are total assholes and their players are a bunch of punks.*


*Yes, I'm generalizing, but I'm a Buckeye.  I really dislike LSU.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:02 AM (penCf)

25 Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 07:57 AM (penCf)

When I was in the 7th grade many many years ago we were herded into the school auditorium to watch an 8 mm film about the evils of communism.

It was brought to us by the local John Birch Society. It turned out to be about the civil war going on over in Algeria and it showed naked and dismembered bodies from explosions.

After a few of the girls ran screaming from the auditorium the principle came in and watched about 30 seconds of the film and shut it off; ran them out of the building.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:03 AM (M9Ie6)

26 Meanwhile the state's motto Vinum Potest, Alcohol May Have Been A Factor, though widely quoted in obituaries, goes uncited. Hey Ernie Harwell died, why not blame him too?


It couldn't be that your roads suck, couldn't it?  I hate driving in Michigan.  When we have to go to MI, we take a rental.  It is cheaper to pay $100 on rental (and insurance) than to pay for the damaged caused by MI roads.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:05 AM (penCf)

27 It's the motorcycles you see. Michigeese and Michiganders gist can't hold 'er on the road when it's hot out.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 07:59 AM (W5ilH)

We better tell the race car drivers that hot roads and hot tires decrease the friction.  I'm pretty sure those idiots think it's the opposite.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 04:05 AM (1fanL)

28 Ever experienced any LSU fans first-hand? Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 07:54 AM (1fanL) Well, yeah. I know several. They're nice people.

Posted by: Bugler at May 12, 2011 04:07 AM (VXBR1)

29 *Yes, I'm generalizing, but I'm a Buckeye.

Really? What are you in for?

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 04:07 AM (W5ilH)

30 Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 08:03 AM (M9Ie6)

I couldn't even imagine.

The worse I ever saw was when a raccoon (s) or something snuck in to our school over the weekend and when I helped the janitor (worse punishment than detention) double check the classrooms Monday morning, we found all the class animals in bloody heaps on the floor.  I never had that punishment again.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:08 AM (penCf)

31 And this is why people shouldn't worry about Romney being the nominee:  He's so bad at this he won't win the campaign.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 12, 2011 04:10 AM (FkKjr)

32

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 07:57 AM (penCf)

I've seen that before, it's an old file photo of Nancy Pelosi eating spaghetti at an Italian restaurant in San Francisco.

Posted by: ontherocks at May 12, 2011 04:12 AM (HBqDo)

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:13 AM (M9Ie6)

34

From the sidebar--thus spaketh the head of NEA:

“The marketplace shouldn’t be the sole determinant of what is allowed to flourish,” Landesman said, adding that the renowned San Francisco Mime Troupe would likely not be able to survive solely on ticket sales.

1.  "Renowned"?

2.  House Republicans--if you cannot kill this particular bureaucratic creature, then you should all go home.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 04:17 AM (B+qrE)

36 Well, yeah. I know several. They're nice people.

Posted by: Bugler at May 12, 2011 08:07 AM (VXBR1)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 04:18 AM (1fanL)

37

Angry Mob Chases Would-Be-Flag Burner Off LSU Campus

Baton Rouge ain't Berkeley.  Most people in the south don't want to see hippies shitin on our country.  Even for all its faults this country is the best in the world.  I find it strange that people from the Ivy League or Left coast, who are always telling us how smart they are, can't see that.

 

Posted by: Case at May 12, 2011 04:21 AM (0K+Kw)

38 Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 08:17 AM (B+qrE)

I freaking HATE mimes.  Hate them with a passion only reserved for, well, mimes.  They aren't funny and they terrify little kids.  They mock, mimic, and taunt people.

They are a living example of Nightmare on Elm Street.


Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:22 AM (penCf)

39

NRO on the Cain phenomena

Perhaps it is time to add him to my list of candidates to watch. So far I have not been impressed by many of the candidates who have declared or who are likely to declare.

And all this may show that those candidates who did not show up for this debate screwed up. It appears from this article that Cain is surging in the polls now.


Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:23 AM (M9Ie6)

40 House Republicans--if you cannot kill this particular bureaucratic creature, then you should all go home.

Let's not get distracted from the "real battle" - attaching up-or-down votes on procedural changes to the legislation raising the debt ceiling.

Posted by: John Boehner at May 12, 2011 04:23 AM (FkKjr)

41 Hey guys!  You know how Obama wouldn't send any federal firefighters to Texas?  Good news!  He has finally sent in some tankers!

To Mexico.

http://tinyurl.com/3sdmynx

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 04:24 AM (Fo83G)

42 Let's not get distracted from the "real battle" - attaching up-or-down votes on procedural changes to the legislation raising the debt ceiling.

Read the article I linked to above. We no longer have a debt ceiling. Tiny Tim Tax Cheat is ignoring it.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:25 AM (M9Ie6)

43 Wonder why the FBI refused to get involved?
Queens man in terror bust

A Queens man in his 20s was busted last night in a terror plot targeting New York, The Post has learned.

One source said the man was trying to buy a handgun and talked about attacking a synagogue.

In an usual move, Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance's office decided to prosecute after the FBI declined to get involved.

The suspect is an American-born Muslim.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:25 AM (penCf)

44 Read the article I linked to above. We no longer have a debt ceiling. Tiny Tim Tax Cheat is ignoring it.

Oh I don't believe that.  I've met him personally.  He is a fine man, and I look forward to working with him.

Posted by: John Boehner at May 12, 2011 04:27 AM (FkKjr)

45 @34, "I said we had to support the meme, dammit, not the mime. Shhhit."

It couldn't be that your roads suck, couldn't it?
I'm an Ohioan, and therefore don't run around making fun of other states' roads. We make glass houses; Mich. is full of stones.

The Michigan attitude about road construction has long been, "Cars? Hell, we make 'em here." The best roads in Michigan are the unpaved ones. They at least get graded once a year, and once you invest in a four-wheel-drive you'll probably live. The same can't be said for I-75.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 04:28 AM (W5ilH)

46 There is more to this story, right:

NYPD anti-terror big booted

Inspector John Nicholson, the former second-in-command of the NYPD's Joint Terrorism Task Force, was transferred this week to Patrol Borough Brooklyn South after he defied the wishes of David Cohen, deputy commissioner of intelligence, according to law-enforcement sources.

Last week, after bin Laden was killed, Cohen told Nicholson to bring him the FBI's latest dossier on him. But Nicholson refused his superior's order, citing the federal agency's policy of not allowing such documents to leave its office.

Nicholson, who has a background in Navy intelligence, will now oversee day-to-day crime-busting.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:28 AM (penCf)

47 It was brought to us by the local John Birch Society. It turned out to be about the civil war going on over in Algeria and it showed naked and dismembered bodies from explosions.

After a few of the girls ran screaming from the auditorium the principle came in and watched about 30 seconds of the film and shut it off; ran them out of the building.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 08:03 AM (M9Ie6)

That's a shame.  Sounds like someone had actually taken the time to create a program showing what communism is really all about.  Shielding the public from the truth about communist horrors hasn't done us any good.  It's been harmful.  People need to see that communists love death and horror, and are never shy about dishing it out. 

The much of the world outside our borders is a horrible place, and it's getting worse inside our borders every day.  Keeping people in a pleasant bubble of ignorance is only making things worse.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 04:33 AM (xUM1Q)

48

momma i'm confused.

Why would they want bil ladens dossier, and what good would it do for the NYC PD?

ANd that's a hell of a waste of tribal knowledge, moving your #2 anti-terror guy to beat patrol. but maybe he can use his knowledge and training to help his field guys be more targeted.

Posted by: todler at May 12, 2011 04:33 AM (fPOY0)

49 I'm an Ohioan, and therefore don't run around making fun of other states' roads.


Our roads only suck because they are always freaking working on the good ones.  If it really needs resurfaced, don't hold your breathe.  If it rides like new, hell, we can fix that!

Being from outside Columbus, I hate the summertime.  If I need to go to any of the Big 3 cities, I always take back roads because of all the orange barrels on the main ones.

What part of OH are you from?

I know we have a Clev. Heights.,  an outside Columbus (2 of us, opp. sides of it), & a Cincy moron.


Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:34 AM (penCf)

50 Posted by: todler at May 12, 2011 08:33 AM (fPOY0)

Those were my questions, too.  I was hoping a NYer would put me some knowledge.  It sounds as if the Terror Inspector didn't trust the Dept. Commissioner.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:35 AM (penCf)

51 Vic, "; ran them out of the building."  so, the liberals were in charge back then,

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 04:37 AM (WkuV6)

52

May 12 (Bloomberg) -- Wholesale costs in the U.S. rose more than forecast in April, led by higher prices for food and fuel.

The 0.8 percent increase in the producer-price index compares with the 0.6 percent median estimate of economists surveyed by Bloomberg News, Labor Department figures showed today in Washington. The so-called core measure, which excludes volatile food and energy costs, increased 0.3 percent, more than projected.

 

I'm shocked, shocked to find inflation.....Next thing they'll unexpectedly discover is that unemployment is really bad. The Obozo economic golden age just keeps rolling along

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2011 04:37 AM (1Jaio)

53

In an usual move, Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance's office decided to prosecute after the FBI declined to get involved.

The suspect is an American-born Muslim.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 08:25 AM (penCf)

Hmmm... From reading this one might start to wonder if the muslims were, oh, I dunno - some kind of protected class or something. 

Might that be because they're a bunch of hyper-violent whackos?  A powder keg of irrationality?  One may rest assured that if I tried to buy a gun while talking about shooting up a mosque the feds would be on me like ugly on an ape.  But when it comes to the RoP, they're afraid to take action.  They are trying to put off the inevitable conflict, the US intifada, as long as possible. This is wrong.  We need it to provoke them to start it NOW, while we still have them vastly out numbered, so that we can put an end to the muz 5th column once and for all. 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 04:39 AM (xUM1Q)

54 Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 08:33 AM (xUM1Q)

I would guestimate that the objection was to showing bomb-blasted bodies to young children.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:40 AM (M9Ie6)

55 Vic, "; ran them out of the building."  so, the liberals were in charge back then,

Hardly

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:41 AM (M9Ie6)

56

I'm shocked, shocked to find inflation.....Next thing they'll unexpectedly discover is that unemployment is really bad. The Obozo economic golden age just keeps rolling along

I will have you know that Katie Couric pronounced the recession over on CBS yesterday.

[NO, I WAS NOT ACTIVELY WATCHING.  RANDOM BACKGROUND NOISE.]

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 04:41 AM (B+qrE)

57 #52  It must be hell going through life constantly surprised by events.  People who have this condition are usually unable to process information properly and have short-term memory loss,  from brain damage due to accident or stroke.

And amazingly,  a large number of these disabled people apparently have been hired in the Labor Department and in the Treasury.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 04:42 AM (Fo83G)

58 In Romney's limited defense, states should be able try government assisted or government run health care schemes.  Misguided as the idea may be, it the very essence of federalism: locally elected (and therefore locally responsible) representatives directed by a majority of its citizens to put something on the ballot, and then give it a try if it passes.  It's no different than Arizona's heightened border enforcement measure or California's defense of marriage proposition, which were conservative grass roots efforts we had no problem with.

People in different state have different values, and should be free to promote those values in whatever legal ways they choose and can afford.  Other states can watch those experiments and then determine whether they want to try the same thing (in MA's case, none of its neighbors wanted to try their own variation of RomneyCare), or not.

Federally mandated Obama care is a fundamentally different matter.  The federal government should have its own, very limited role, and outside of that the states should be free to do what they want based on state-wide votes.  Overeager national representatives trying to dictate to the rest of the country, activist judges usurping the role of the legislatures, and Presidents Gone Wild® are not how it's supposed to work.  The Tenth Amendment is now taught in law school to be "dead letter" law, but the founders knew what they were doing and really couldn't have been any clearer in how our government was supposed to function:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

If Madison were alive to see what we've done to his beloved Constitution it would kill him all over again.

Posted by: Blacksheep at May 12, 2011 04:43 AM (ODG/5)

59 @49, Other Ohio. Black Swamp. You've never heard of it.

It occurs to me that the LSU grad student just doesn't know how to make friends. As a matter of equal opportunity, he should have burned both the US flag and the Confederate.  Then everything would have been fine.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 04:43 AM (W5ilH)

60 23 I would not have given ANY government agency the lead in investigating themselves.  It is pure human nature with most people but with government agencies it goes far beyond that.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 07:37 AM (M9Ie6)

Totally agree--there is a large pool of civilian experts in a variety of fields (retired contractors, ex-military, academics, etc.) that could have worked independently to evaluate 9/11.  Problem is that government is so compartmented that it would be hard for any such group to operate (see the problems the Congress has with subpoena power) and get access to information.  Besides each "Agency" has a vested interest in obscuring both their capabilities, sources, and involvement in anything.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2011 08:01 AM (yrGif)


The NTSB generally brings in lots of outside experts to sit on their panels.  The Government had to investigate; a seperate external panel - fine, but instead of standing up a panel of politicians - the Government should have used their own experts and expanded their writ to the management, intelligence, and security aspects of the problem.  They routinely eviscerate their own management at the FAA and airline/aircraft industry stakeholders with well supported critical analysis.

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 04:43 AM (WkuV6)

61 Go read #43 and then this.  I know that the same guy is mentioned, but the NYP article doesn't mention a second arrest.
'Homegrown' threat: Two suspected terrorists arrested in New York trying to buy weapons in plot to 'attack synagogue'Two men have been arrested on suspicion of plotting a terrorist attack as they tried to buy guns, a grenade and other weapons, it has emerged.

Officers seized the pair late last night in Midtown, as they allegedly tried to sell drugs in exchange for guns.

One of the men, said to be in his 20s, has a criminal record for narcotics, and it  has emerged they already had weapons in their possession.


According to a police source, both men are 'homegrown' radicalised Muslims of North African origin, a scenario law enforcement officials warned against in the wake of Bin Laden's death.

Officials have not yet released the men's names, or any details about the location of the planned attack.

The NYPD's intelligence division are said to have tracked the men for some time, before launching a sting yesterday.

It's rare for the department to lead a terror investigation as they more usually provide a supporting role to the FBI.

In a further twist, the case is being handled by the New York state District Attorney, Cyrus Vance.

The pair will appear in criminal court in lower Manhattan today, and are likely to face state terrorism rather than federal charges, the New York Post reports.

It is understood the joint FBI-NYPD anti-terrorism task force were aware of the investigation, but chose not to become involved.


Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:44 AM (penCf)

62

Might that be because they're a bunch of hyper-violent whackos?  A powder keg of irrationality?  One may rest assured that if I tried to buy a gun while talking about shooting up a mosque the feds would be on me like ugly on an ape.  But when it comes to the RoP, they're afraid to take action.  They are trying to put off the inevitable conflict, the US intifada, as long as possible. This is wrong.  We need it to provoke them to start it NOW, while we still have them vastly out numbered, so that we can put an end to the muz 5th column once and for all. 

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 08:39 AM (xUM1Q)



People are always pointing at "Freedom of Religion" in our constitution, as if implying that the founders were ambivalent about it. No, they were too keenly aware of it. It has long been my opinion that what the referred to as "religion" we today refer to as Denomination.  They were well aware of the religious strife which occurred between denominations, and they sought to diffuse it. With each state having it's own official state religion, (but all Christian) it was the only thing they could do.


I very much doubt they ever considered the possibility that this Umbrella of tolerance would be extended to other religions, or Atheism.  If on the other hand, that WAS their intention, then they got that one wrong.



Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 12, 2011 04:45 AM (v2K2g)

63 The so-called core measure, which excludes volatile food and energy costs, increased 0.3 percent, more than projected.

I'm shocked, shocked to find inflation.....Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2011 08:37 AM (1Jaio)

Meh.  0.3% inflation for the month is still pretty minimal (a roughly 4% annual pace).  We had an average of about 6% through the 80's and things weren't so horrible. 

There are a million reasons to oppose Obastard and his policies, but hyperventilating about inflation isn't doing us a lot of good.  M3 is still way down, and isn't growing much since no one has any desire to lend money. 

If we want to fight the increase in the cost of goods, we need to attack the supply problems.  That's where we need to fight Obie's bad policies, and the way to prove to Americans that we know how to do something more than just complain about how the deficit is too high (which it is).  Monetary policy changes aren't going to do much good.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 04:45 AM (xUM1Q)

64 Just a quick update (and my thanks) related to my previous bleg for donations for the 50-mile bikeathon I'm doing to raise money for the Hole in The Wall Gang Camp.

It's true - You're all a bunch of semi-alcoholic, hobo-skinning morons (NTTAWWT), but you're MY bunch of semi-alcoholic, hobo-skinning morons.  A number of you have been very generous with donations (particularly when you consider the request came from someone you know only via the AOSHQ community) .   I may have to put a Valu-Rite logo on my bike shirt in honor of the group.  I considered using the hide of a dead hobo, but it'll probably be too warm on the day of the ride for that.

In case you're interested the HITW camp has a page with a pretty good selection of pictures and videos (both from previous years' rides and about the camp in general and Hospital Outreach Program in particular) -  here it is.  Luckily, there are no pictures of me from the 2009 ride floating around (if there were, I'd be the hairy, somewhat Ewokish looking guy with the "modesty flab" protecting the Moronettes from swooning over my 12-pack abs).  

And of course, you can still donate if you want.  Here's the link.  Anytime up to May 27th is o.k. (the ride is on the Sunday before Memorial Day, fittingly enough).  Here's the donations page link.

Ah well - back to grading final exams.  Unfortunately, we have a dry campus, so I have to do the grading behind closed doors.   Luckily, we use the "Muslim Standard" here - we're not supposed to drink on campus, but nobody ever checks what's in your coffee cup.


  

Posted by: RightwingProf at May 12, 2011 04:46 AM (UOcNk)

65

I very much doubt they ever considered the possibility that this Umbrella of tolerance would be extended to other religions, or Atheism.  If on the other hand, that WAS their intention, then they got that one wrong.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 12, 2011 08:45 AM (v2K2g)

Amen.  If anyone could have gone back and told George Washington that the future US would become a safe haven for treasonous mohammedans, he'd have gone ahead and accepted that offer to become king, just to set up laws to prevent that madness.  None of the founders would have thought it credible that muz would ever come to live here.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 04:48 AM (xUM1Q)

66 Iran is saying bin Laden was dead long before the raid.  They say they can prove it and are pointing out there have been no pictures shown.

Not saying I side with Iran.  This IS,  however,  a predictable (although to this administration "unexpected") result of not getting the message straight and showing a picture or two right away.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 04:49 AM (Fo83G)

67 You guys hear about the HS student that can't go to prom (or his friends) because he put a sign up on school grounds asking his girlfriend to go to prom with him?

I've seen pics of the sign but I can't tell if it is a taped sign or just easy remove letters.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:50 AM (penCf)

Posted by: maddogg at May 12, 2011 04:52 AM (OlN4e)

69 I thought Cyrus Vance was Jimmah Carter's SECSTATE (the one who quit rather than sign on to the ill-fated Desert One hostage rescue attempt)...maybe this is Cyrus Vance Jr?

Posted by: Kortezzi at May 12, 2011 04:53 AM (piR98)

70 From that link above:

The word on the street among the rightÂ’s intelligentsia and punditocracy is that Herman Cain cannot, should not, and will not be the Republican nominee for president in 2012.

Well if you consider that NRO article I posted above as an indicator that may not be true. They are saying that Cain is surging.

Perhaps we have a candidate breaking out of the pack now with the dissatisfied base.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 04:54 AM (M9Ie6)

71 The so-called core measure, which excludes volatile food and energy costs, increased 0.3 percent, more than projected.

Core measure?  Thats Orwellian; fuel costs factors into everything and food is certainly on most people's natural definition of "core".  Should they have said; the generally stable shit like durable goods, capitalized equipment, and land - thats easy for us to measure.  The politically useful number would be the "perceived" inflation, which would be the pocketbook stuff.

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 04:55 AM (WkuV6)

72 ‘Barbarism of Al Qaeda Has Nothing On These Mexican Cartels,’ Says Texas Safety Official

Steven McGraw, director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, told a House panel Wednesday that the “barbarism” of the Mexican drug cartels is worse than that of the radical Islamist terror group Al Qaeda.

“International terrorists engage in organized crime to support their terrorist activities,” said McGraw, “whereas the Mexican cartels are now engaging in terrorist activities to support their criminal enterprises and organized crime activities -- and the barbarism of al Qaeda has nothing on these Mexican cartels.”

"They're involved in kidnappings, extortions, murders," he said. "They've butchered 36,000 Mexican nationals and some American citizens."

McGraw testified at a hearing of the House Homeland Security Oversight, Investigation, and Management Subcommittee.

As CNSNews.com previouslyreported, the 36,000-plus drug-cartel related killings in Mexico since 2006 include 1,200 children and teenagers. Also, more civilians were killed in the border town of Juarez (near El Paso, Texas) than in all of Afghanistan in 2010.


Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 04:55 AM (penCf)

73 68 Why not Herman Cain?

Posted by: maddogg at May 12, 2011 08:52 AM (OlN4e)

So he's a clever patriot from Atlanta who isn't afraid of race.  Is that enough?

I'm trying to figure out why he'd come out tepid on ObamaCare.  It's a no-brainer.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:00 AM (1fanL)

74 None of the founders would have thought it credible that muz would ever come to live here.

Posted by: Reactionary at May 12, 2011 08:48 AM (xUM1Q)

None of them would have thought that so many liberal ideas would have taken root here and been codified into overarching Federal legislation and regulation.

The founders knew the excesses that could occur from the power of "government supported denomination" and wished to ensure that if it occurred, it occurred at the state (local) level where it could be remedied by the citizens of the state (Quakers/Anglican/etc.).

They also made the reasonable (for then) assumption, that Christianity would be the religious backdrop for all religions, thus a sense of tolerance could be expected.  They never envisioned government support of a religion that declares war on non-adherents and death to apostates.  Too bad they never met Saul Alinsky or had to deal with CAIR.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2011 05:02 AM (yrGif)

75 Even the most hardcore Federalists at the founding like Hamilton and Adams would be aghast at the federal government of today.

Their weakness was the inability to see what would happen down the road from their policies of a strong central government. That is why the founders like Jefferson were so much better. 

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 05:05 AM (M9Ie6)

76 does anyone think that Debbie Wasserman whatever will appeal to independents?  she is strident & an obvious liar.  worse than Nancy Pelosi.

Posted by: kelley in virginia at May 12, 2011 07:51 AM (5TCB2)

I'm not sure what's worse:  listening to Dopey Was-a-man's obnoxious grating voice or looking at that ambulatory yeast infection's greasy hair.  Somebody should tell her that the jheri curl on white skeezer look isn't at all appealing.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 12, 2011 05:06 AM (wX23+)

77 </x>

Posted by: Accordian Playing Mime at May 12, 2011 05:06 AM (wOaLi)

78

Ever experienced any LSU fans first-hand?

The whole state turns purple and gold on Saturdays during football season. Families in matching outfits.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 05:07 AM (XdlcF)

79 If you go to herobuilders.com you will see a Barack Obama action figure in a Seal Team 6 shirt,  carrying a rifle of some sort.

If President Bush were still in the White House,  this company would have been asked to withdraw the doll.  Not President Ego, though.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 05:07 AM (Fo83G)

80

The whole state turns purple and gold on Saturdays during football season. Families in matching outfits.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 09:07 AM (XdlcF)

Yeah, and if your grandma isn't wearing purple and gold, they'll call her a dirty slut while spitting on her.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:08 AM (1fanL)

81

ANd that's a hell of a waste of tribal knowledge, moving your #2 anti-terror guy to beat patrol. but maybe he can use his knowledge and training to help his field guys be more targeted.

Posted by: todler at May 12, 2011 08:33 AM (fPOY0)

Anyone been to south Brooklyn? Bay Ridge and Bensonhurst look like little Yemen. The irish that the italians pushed out are gone and the italians are either old, dead, or decamped to Staten Island. It's a muslim wonderland. My mother in law closed her store front travel agency and moved it to an office building because she didn't want the Middle eastern clientel and feared for her life. She hated making them reservations.

Maybe this guy can do some good on the beat if he's not too PC.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:09 AM (23y25)

82 @20

"He goes to bed with images in his head. He can’t eat noodles and spaghetti. We had Chinese food the other night and he couldn’t even look at the noodles because the first image that comes to his mind is worms,” he said.

AHHH HAH HAH HA HA!

Posted by: Deety at May 12, 2011 05:09 AM (mMv0h)

83 Where is my morning DOOM?

I fucking hate...shit, just about everybody.

Posted by: Jack at May 12, 2011 05:09 AM (kCT7A)

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:10 AM (k1rwm)

85 Vote Cain! He's authentic!

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:10 AM (23y25)

86

This morning on NPR:

During the 1992 campaign when the magic bus tour came South thru Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi Bill Clinton stopped in Louisiana one morning. In that state with high unemployment and a moribund oil industry he said that if elected he would get the EPA to provide regulatory relief to the oil industry and get people back to work. That very afternoon, in Mississippi, he promised to crack down on those evil greedy polluting oil companies. NPR reported on this by playing those two audio clips and then moving on to the next story without comment.

It is that same tight lipped, frustrated, relatively unbiased reporting that I head from them this morning when they reported on the Democrats plan to reduce gas prices by raising taxes on the oil companies.

Posted by: Bob Saget at May 12, 2011 05:11 AM (F/4zf)

87 Cain is a no dead Osama picturist. Poor judgement.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:11 AM (qIHlG)

88

Why not Herman Cain?

 

No government experience.

Openly and unapologetically clueless about Afghanistan.  Even if I could get past the first point, I cannot take anyone as a serious candiate for President who is so intellectually thin on a decade-long war.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 05:12 AM (B+qrE)

89 Draft Demint.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:13 AM (qIHlG)

90 On the other hand, if Cain was the nominee, it'd be fun to see the media try to explain the racial breakdown of the votes.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:13 AM (1fanL)

91

Hey guys! You know how Obama wouldn't send any federal firefighters to Texas? Good news! He has finally sent in some tankers!

To Mexico.

http://tinyurl.com/3sdmynx

What the fuck? They sent planes there a month ago, but can't be bothered with Texas. This is beyond ridiculous. What horrible, horrible people they are.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 05:13 AM (XdlcF)

92

No government experience.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 09:12 AM (B+qrE)

"Everybody in Washington has government experience.  How's that working out for you?"

Posted by: Herman Cain at May 12, 2011 05:14 AM (1fanL)

93

Openly and unapologetically clueless about Afghanistan.  Even if I could get past the first point, I cannot take anyone as a serious candiate for President who is so intellectually thin on a decade-long war.

But he's black!!!!! He doesn't have to have any experience! Has he written a book? or had one written? He's a good speaker!!

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:14 AM (23y25)

94 Cain is a no dead Osama picturist. Poor judgement.

This was truly a stupid call on Cain's part, although I think most of our crop of candidates have said the same thing.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 12, 2011 05:15 AM (FkKjr)

95 Texas is a red state. Obama hates white people.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:15 AM (qIHlG)

96 "Everybody in Washington has government experience.  How's that working out for you?"

Everybody in Washington has thumbs.  How's that working out for you?

Posted by: Snuffles the Cat at May 12, 2011 05:16 AM (FkKjr)

97

Texas is a red state. Obama hates white people.

And he really, really detests Rick Perry.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 05:16 AM (B+qrE)

98 I don't know a whole lot about Cain's stand on the major issues of the day and since he has no record his probability of sticking with the issues is a lot harder to determine.

Having said that, since it appears at least for now, he is breaking out of the pack, when one of ya'll have some statement or action that you think is a "negative mark" for him, how about we do something different this time.

If you have a hit on him, post a link to the source. Too often in the past here we get hits against conservative candidates and it turns out the source is an outrageous liar.

Let's try to keep the hit jobs honest this time.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 05:16 AM (M9Ie6)

99 Texas is a brown state, mi amigo.  Or haven't you figured out what I'm doing?

Posted by: Osama Obama at May 12, 2011 05:16 AM (1fanL)

100

My sons would have loved seeing worms devouring something gross. They'd probably make it their screen saver. Images guarenteed to make girls scream? That's high comedy! The worse, the better.

 

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:17 AM (23y25)

101 Osama had a journal. How queer.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:17 AM (qIHlG)

102 Gov. Perry should ask Canada for the tankers; I bet he would get them and embarrass the One.

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 05:18 AM (WkuV6)

103 Everybody in Washington has thumbs.  How's that working out for you?

Posted by: Snuffles the Cat at May 12, 2011 09:16 AM (FkKjr)

Wait.  I don't have thumbs?  Is that some kind of primate crack, cracker?

Posted by: Herman Cain at May 12, 2011 05:18 AM (1fanL)

104 Per Laura Ingraham:  The JEF let loose with an "I was a creative writer" during the Common-Fest last night.  Break out the Apes eating figs in underwater caves classic.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 12, 2011 05:18 AM (wX23+)

105 We need a Conservative Governor or ex Governor. They make the best presidents.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:19 AM (qIHlG)

106

If you have a hit on him, post a link to the source.

On Afghanistan?  Here on this very blog during and after the "debate" last week, Vic.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 05:19 AM (B+qrE)

107 Anybody but Obama.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (23y25)

108 Rick Perry for President?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (qIHlG)

109 We need a Conservative Governor or ex Governor. They make the best presidents.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 09:19 AM (qIHlG)

You betcha.  I wonder who we could get.

Posted by: ArahSa AlinPay at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (1fanL)

110 "He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Before his business and economics career he worked on ballistics for the United States Navy."

Thought cain was great until I saw someone on one of the conspiracy sites pointed out these two ties.  It's a deal breaker.  He's just not a plain ol business man.

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (k1rwm)

111 We need a Conservative Governor or ex Governor. They make the best presidents.

Eisenhower unleashed Operation Wetback; can we dig him up?

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (WkuV6)

112 Ever experienced any LSU fans first-hand? Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 07:54 AM (1fanL) You're experiencing one now, you filthy Auburn trash. I know it's hard to see the bigger picture with Cam Newton's dick in your mouth, but let's try anyway. Just because I have no qualms screaming TIGERBAIT! TIGERBAIT! TIGERBAIT! directly into your 85 year-old grandmother's ear as she walks by our tailgate party doesn't mean I don't love my country and its symbols. I was a freshman there during Gulf War I, and there were a few old hippies and young liberal idiots at Free Speech Alley (a stone bench in front of the Student Union) protesting the war. They got shouted down and booted out by hundreds of patriotic students.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (W7Ddq)

113 I'm racist.

Posted by: Frito Bandito at May 12, 2011 05:20 AM (wOaLi)

114 "He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Before his business and economics career he worked on ballistics for the United States Navy."

Thought cain was great until I saw someone on one of the conspiracy sites pointed out these two ties.  It's a deal breaker.  He's just not a plain ol business man.

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:20 AM (k1rwm)

*Spit*Navy?*spit*  I agree, that's a deal-breaker.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:21 AM (1fanL)

115

My lawyer husband says that journals are the worst possible thing you could ever do to yourself. They should be named "pleaseindictmes" or "suemenows" or "takeallmymoneyinthedivorce".

Guess Osama didn't get that memo

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:22 AM (23y25)

116

Wait.  I don't have thumbs?  Is that some kind of primate crack, cracker?

Posted by: Herman Cain at May 12, 2011 09:18 AM (1fanL)

No, you have thumbs.  Just like the rest of them in Washington.  It's time for a true change.  Vote Snuffles in 2012!

Posted by: Snuffles the Cat at May 12, 2011 05:22 AM (FkKjr)

117 Is there anything in the Constitution about the President having to be alive?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:22 AM (qIHlG)

118 Just because I have no qualms screaming TIGERBAIT! TIGERBAIT! TIGERBAIT! directly into your 85 year-old grandmother's ear as she walks by our tailgate party doesn't mean I don't love my country and its symbols.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 09:20 AM (W7Ddq)

Good you folks are patriots.  Bad you're douchebags.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:22 AM (1fanL)

119 Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 09:21 AM (1fanL)

not the navy part, the federal reserve, two position part....

the navy part would make him more qualified but the federal reserve stuff isn't that great

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:23 AM (k1rwm)

120 41 Hey guys! You know how Obama wouldn't send any federal firefighters to Texas? Good news! He has finally sent in some tankers! To Mexico. http://tinyurl.com/3sdmynx Posted by: Miss Marple at My brother and his son ranch in North Texas-the fires came right up to their barn. They were lucky-they didn't lose any animals this time around. (They lost all their cattle in the fires a couple of years ago.) But all the ranches around lost everything. The fields and pastures are black, there will be little hay this season, which will cause a glut of beef in the short term, when everyone is selling to avoid paying for feed, and then a hike in prices in the long term, when herds are so small the providers can't keep up with normal demand. But no, these folks don't need any help. For the record, my brother and nephew are manning up and taking care of things the best they can, and would refuse money from this administration. But damn, when you spit on your own people, and give money to foreigners, that's crappy.

Posted by: moki at May 12, 2011 05:23 AM (dZmFh)

121 109 "He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Before his business and economics career he worked on ballistics for the United States Navy."

Meh. It was a job. Maybe he needed a job 20 years ago. That also means he knows how it works. Often, seeing the underbelly of an organization leads to a desire to reform it. Who knows.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:24 AM (23y25)

122 Is there anything in the Constitution about the President having to be alive?

The Commerce Clause probably lets you run a dead guy for office or something.

Posted by: The Supreme Court at May 12, 2011 05:25 AM (FkKjr)

123 George Allen?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 05:25 AM (qIHlG)

124 On Afghanistan?  Here on this very blog during and after the "debate" last week, Vic.

I saw the Afghanistan thing. I wasn't making it an issue for any one particular thing but what struck me was the Bin Laden "death picture". I hadn't heard anything on that, but still I think it should apply to everything, and for every candidate.

If you have a hit, and it isn't some long standing issue that is common knowledge like Romneycare or Newt on the couch, then post a link to a reputable source.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 05:26 AM (M9Ie6)

125

The Commerce Clause probably lets you run a dead guy for office or something.

Hey, lack of activity is activity.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 05:27 AM (B+qrE)

126 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 09:20 AM (W7Ddq)

James Carville should never do anything in life other than talk about LSU and SEC football; it's his only redeeming trait.  Politically Les Miles is more coherent.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 12, 2011 05:27 AM (wX23+)

127 My precious. Gives it back.

Posted by: James Carville at May 12, 2011 05:28 AM (qIHlG)

128

They also made the reasonable (for then) assumption, that Christianity would be the religious backdrop for all religions, thus a sense of tolerance could be expected.  They never envisioned government support of a religion that declares war on non-adherents and death to apostates.  Too bad they never met Saul Alinsky or had to deal with CAIR.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 12, 2011 09:02 AM (yrGif)


I agree. It is the various forms of Christianity that drug mankind out of the darkness, and produced the advancements of Science. China existed 2000 years prior to Christianity, and in the subsequent 4000 never really changed much.

Christianity is the meme that made a better world.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 12, 2011 05:28 AM (v2K2g)

129 Thought cain was great until I saw someone on one of the conspiracy sites pointed out these two ties.  It's a deal breaker.

Being head of a local federal reserve bank is a deal breaker?????

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 05:28 AM (M9Ie6)

130 123 George Allen?

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at May 12, 2011 09:25 AM (qIHlG)

Not bright. Arrogant. But CHEAP as hell. He would make the left apoplectic. Rino-ish.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:28 AM (23y25)

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:29 AM (k1rwm)

132 The post seems pretty clear about the demotion

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:29 AM (k1rwm)


Not really.  I already posted that link and some of us were trying to figure out why a guy was demoted for following the rules.

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 05:32 AM (penCf)

133 Thought cain was great until I saw someone on one of the conspiracy sites pointed out these two ties. 

I worked for a guy one time who only had one tie. Great boss. Sometimes it had mustard on it.

Admit it -- it's the ballistics thing, isn't it. Calculus addicts can't abide a trig man.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 05:33 AM (W5ilH)

134

But damn, when you spit on your own people, and give money to foreigners, that's crappy.

It's beyond belief. I'm glad their ranch was okay.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 05:33 AM (XdlcF)

135 the daily news article says what the radio news has been saying since last night "two men"  The NY Post article says "one man"

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:33 AM (k1rwm)

136 James Carville should never do anything in life other than talk about LSU and SEC football; it's his only redeeming trait.  Politically Les Miles is more coherent. I cringe when they cut those fucking cornpone spots that he does before big LSU games. He might as well be in a white linen suit with a black string tie. On the bright side, his wife is a keeper and his daughters are cutie-pies. My three girls went to the same school when we lived in New Orleans.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 05:34 AM (W7Ddq)

137 Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 09:32 AM (penCf)

Read the comments, it certainly seems that way.  No I know you posted the links and I was trying to say it looks like he was demoted for following the rules.  Although, depending upon the part of Brooklyn, this might have been a clever way to get the guy out onto the streets as it's fascinating in some parts of the borough.

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:36 AM (k1rwm)

138 This is just great:

Bedbugs with 'superbug' germ found

Atlanta -- Hate insects?  Afraid of germs?  Researchers are reporting an alarming combination:  Bedbugs carrying a staph "superbug."

Canadian scientists detected drug-resistant staph bacteria in bedbugs from three hospital patients from a downtrodden Vancouver neighborhood.

Bedbugs have not been known to spread disease, and there's no clear evidence that the five bedbugs found on the patients or their belongings had spread the MRSA germ they were carrying or a second less dangerous drug-resistant bacteria.



Posted by: Jane D'oh, Moats n Gators franchise owner at May 12, 2011 05:37 AM (UOM48)

139 Admit it -- it's the ballistics thing, isn't it. Calculus addicts can't abide a trig man.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 09:33 AM (W5ilH)

Pffft.

Pi to all of you.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at May 12, 2011 05:38 AM (B+qrE)

140

I'm going to buy an LSU shirt as soon as I can find the one I saw someone wearing: the fleur-de-lis is a crawfish.

If I wear that and get through August without wimpering every time I step outside, I might be mistaken for a local.

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 05:39 AM (XdlcF)

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:41 AM (k1rwm)

142 the fleur-de-lis 

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 09:39 AM (XdlcF)

Psst!  That's the Saints.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:41 AM (1fanL)

143 the navy part would make him more qualified but the federal reserve stuff isn't that great
Posted by: curious

So, have you heard about the Ron Paul guy ...

Posted by: Jean at May 12, 2011 05:41 AM (WkuV6)

144 Poor Mittens.

Posted by: FUBAR at May 12, 2011 05:45 AM (1fanL)

145 134 Calculus addicts can't abide a Trig man.
__________

Are you trying to say that Cain is Trig's real father?

Posted by: Anachronda at May 12, 2011 05:47 AM (6fER6)

146 Did it strike anyone as odd that the LSU students seem really old?

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:47 AM (k1rwm)

147 Bedbugs with 'superbug' germ found

As the mother of one who got MRSA from the wrestling mats, this is scary as shit. I happened to have read a detailed description of mrsa infection signs during football season and was able to recognize the sore within 1 day of it's appearance. 5 rounds of antibiotics a PICC line with several rounds of IV antibiotics later we're safe.   The bedbug infestation is growing because of banning DDT. I also suspect illegals but can't make a case for it.

Posted by: dagny at May 12, 2011 05:48 AM (23y25)

148 Poor Mittens. I couldn't read the whole thing. Did he even MENTION the total fucking catastrophe that was MassCare or that it was HIS stupid idea?

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 05:50 AM (+61wI)

149

Psst!  That's the Saints.

No, it's Louisiana. There's a requirement that at least 33% of all items in the state have a fleur-de-lis on them.

 

Posted by: Mama AJ at May 12, 2011 05:51 AM (XdlcF)

150 109 "He is a former deputy chairman (1992–94) and chairman (1995–96) of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Before his business and economics career he worked on ballistics for the United States Navy."

Thought cain was great until I saw someone on one of the conspiracy sites pointed out these two ties.  It's a deal breaker.  He's just not a plain ol business man.

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:20 AM (k1rwm)

So what? I don't see why any of these things are a "deal breaker". At the very least, the Fed reserve background would help him to see through the current Fed Reserve BS.

I see you are back to your usual "just asking" MOBY style.

Posted by: Museisluse at May 12, 2011 05:51 AM (a8aqn)

151 Did it strike anyone as odd that the LSU students seem really old? Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:47 AM (k1rwm) That's because in places that aren't New York City, people who aren't New Yorkers develop more slowly. I remember when I was a young freshman of 30, and my mom pinned my registration money to my shirt so I could sign up for all my remedial writin' and cipherin' classes. Good times.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 05:55 AM (+61wI)

152

I see you are back to your usual "just asking" MOBY style.

Posted by: Museisluse at May 12, 2011 09:51 AM (a8aqn)

Every time anyone disagrees with you, you pick on them and call them names.  That the liberal blog way.   Maybe you're spending too much time on the liberal blogs.

BTW, I'm entitled to my opinion, thank God.  You are entitled to your opinion.  I'm not a republican conservative.  However, as an independent I am becoming very important to you republican conservatives in that you can't get anyone, anyone elected without us. 

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:56 AM (k1rwm)

153 Psst!  That's the Saints.Boy Scouts. Just sayin.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 05:56 AM (W5ilH)

154 However, as an independent I am becoming very important to you republican conservatives in that you can't get anyone, anyone elected without us. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!! Seriously, show us your boobs.  

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 05:58 AM (+61wI)

155 Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 09:55 AM (+61wI)

to me they look like what my mom calls "professional students".  She says there were a lot of them when she was going to school in the 70's.  She says it took Ackerman ten years to graduate from college and then he went on to the Congress.

You are probably right.  I'm used to people who know what they want to do, get out of college in as little as three years,  move right into graduate or professional school and I guess are younger than most when they get admitted to the bar or start their practice or get that first college teaching job. 

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 05:59 AM (k1rwm)

156 BTW, I'm entitled to my opinion STFU as they say at LSU, thank God.

Several years concern-trolling Morons and you're not even starting to get it. You're as big a laughingstock as erg and kay. Perhaps the occasional substantive or polite response has given you the illusion that someone takes you seriously. Be disabused: everyone knows you're on a payroll.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 06:03 AM (W5ilH)

157 Be disabused: everyone knows you're on a payroll.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 10:03 AM (W5ilH)

Yes of course I have a job, did you think all I do is come here all day and comment.   You aren't a very nice person.    

I bet you are anti tea party too?

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 06:08 AM (k1rwm)

158 154

I see you are back to your usual "just asking" MOBY style.

Posted by: Museisluse at May 12, 2011 09:51 AM (a8aqn)

Every time anyone disagrees with you, you pick on them and call them names.  That the liberal blog way.   Maybe you're spending too much time on the liberal blogs.

BTW, I'm entitled to my opinion, thank God.  You are entitled to your opinion.  I'm not a republican conservative.  However, as an independent I am becoming very important to you republican conservatives in that you can't get anyone, anyone elected without us. 

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:56 AM (k1rwm)

158 BTW, I'm entitled to my opinion STFU as they say at LSU, thank God.

Several years concern-trolling Morons and you're not even starting to get it. You're as big a laughingstock as erg and kay. Perhaps the occasional substantive or polite response has given you the illusion that someone takes you seriously. Be disabused: everyone knows you're on a payroll.

Posted by: comatus at May 12, 2011 10:03 AM (W5ilH)

Heh- what Comatus said.

Posted by: Museisluse at May 12, 2011 06:09 AM (a8aqn)

159 curious has GOT to be the "girlfriend" that palin steele was fellating. I want to see what kind of sweater-meat 'ol Captain America has at his beck and call. C'mon troll girl. You never apologized for your assholery, so your other option is to let the ponies run free.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 06:10 AM (TATbF)

160 You never apologized for your assholery, so your other option is to let the ponies run free.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 10:10 AM (TATbF)

Are you talking about my opinion on the pictures of OBL?   Why do you think I have to apologize for having an opinion that, incidentally, turned out to be the opinion held by the majority of the American people?

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 06:18 AM (k1rwm)

161 I like Herman Cain a lot.

My big concern with him is his health.  He had stage 4 colon cancer that had spread to his liver.  After surgery and chemotherapy,  he is in remission. (Not "cured" as he says.)

Stress can push someone back out of remission into active cancer again.  Paul Tsongas is a prime example of this. So is Tony Snow,  who ultmately died of a massive infection due to his overworked immune system.

I am very concerned that electing Cain would leave us with whoever he chose as a vice president in charge.  Or a sitting president who is unable to function at top speed due to health.

Posted by: Miss Marple at May 12, 2011 06:27 AM (Fo83G)

162 First of all, bullshit. Second of all, who gives a fuck about your opinion? It's your trollsih snobbery and NYC elitism that's pissed everyone off. But I guess you're going to pretend that whole dustup with dumb-blonde never happened and continue with the moby posts and links. Like you've been doing for the last week. Fine. Just take your shirt off, first. At least that way you'll be positively contributing, for once.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at May 12, 2011 06:27 AM (+61wI)

163 Why do you think I have to apologize for having an opinion that, incidentally, turned out to be the opinion held by the majority of the American people?

It was the opinion of the majority of Americans that anybody who wanted to release the photos was a "selfish bitch?"

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at May 12, 2011 06:28 AM (FkKjr)

164 the daily news article says what the radio news has been saying since last night "two men"  The NY Post article says "one man"

Posted by: curious at May 12, 2011 09:33 AM (k1rwm)


Not to jump on you, but this is the second (and third) link you've posted that I already posted earlier in the thread.  I even pointed out the '1 man'/'2 men' discrepancy. We all post things someone else has already posted, but not in the same thread. 

Just scan the thread first please. 

Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 06:29 AM (penCf)

165 establishing another huge federal bureaucracy to hide behind

While reverse v-chipping Muslims in the head ala Cartman may be effective we'd probably wind up having to install them in everyone for equality reasons.  The ensuing nationwide moron twitching fit after every JEF statement would severely hamper economic recovery.

Posted by: Dave at May 12, 2011 06:33 AM (NFxlU)

166 UPDATE of Wonder why the FBI refused to get involved?
Queens man in terror bust

A Queens man in his 20s was busted last night in a terror plot targeting New York, The Post has learned.

One source said the man was trying to buy a handgun and talked about attacking a synagogue.

In an usual move, Manhattan DA Cyrus Vance's office decided to prosecute after the FBI declined to get involved.

The suspect is an American-born Muslim.



They changed the entire article:

To this:

Two men arrested in relation to an alleged terror plot in New York City were of Moroccan and Algerian descent, FOX News reported Thursday.

Moroccan Mohammad Mamdouh and Algerian Ahmed Serhani were arrested late Wednesday and were expected to be charged under the state's terrorism laws. Both were American citizens.

In an unusual move, Manhattan district attorney Cyrus Vance's office decided to prosecute after the FBI declined to get involved, sources told The Post.

Serhani was a drugs dealer, FOX News reported, with a source saying he was allegedly trying to sell narcotics to finance the purchase of a weapon for a possible attack on a synagogue. However, the pair had not actually purchased any weapons at the time of their arrests.

The men were expected to be arraigned Thursday and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg was scheduled to address the media at an afternoon news conference, The New York Times reported.

The plot was not in retaliation for the killing of Usama bin Laden, a source said, since it had been planned before his death.



Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 06:34 AM (penCf)

167 I am very concerned that electing Cain would leave us with whoever he chose as a vice president in charge.  Or a sitting president who is unable to function at top speed due to health.

What that means is that for him his VP pick will be important. This is true for anyone who is an elderly candidate or who has health problems.

Otherwise the VP pick is warm spit, as the old saying goes.  I never did understand why so many on here may such a big deal about it.

Posted by: Vic at May 12, 2011 06:38 AM (M9Ie6)

168 135-Thanks Mama AJ-I've been running children around to tests, and stepped away for a while. But I appreciate your kind thoughts. My brother has been through hell, with cancer, and the issues with the ranch, but he's tough and has faith. That seems to be enough for now. Mercy, I have to stop looking at the news-every time I think the Precedent, or the Dems or the MFM trumped their usual arrogance and venom, they find new ways to surprise me.

Posted by: moki at May 12, 2011 06:50 AM (dZmFh)

169 Posted by: moki at May 12, 2011 09:23 AM (dZmFh)

Your brother has been added to our prayers.  We've been praying for TX farmers, but now we can give the Big Guy someone specific.


Posted by: momma at May 12, 2011 06:59 AM (penCf)

170

Here's how gas prices work. I heard this from a gas station owner.

They watch crude prices very closely, futures and spot prices. When they see prices go up, they have to estimate how much their NEXT tank of gasoline is going to cost and raise their prices so that they can have the cash flow to buy it. They've already bought the gas in the ground so it's not a problem but they need the money for the next.

It's market forces at work.

When they see oil prices falling, well, they want to make money so they are hesitant to drop their prices but they are are watching very carefully the gas prices of the gas stations around them. If they want to sell a little more gas, they drop the price a little under what the guy across the street is charging. If they guy across the street drops his price first, he is likely to respond to keep his sales up and keep the customers in to buy soda and potato chips also. Sometimes all of the gas prices in a neighborhood are the same. Thet's when the owners are stuck in a game of chicken. Eventually one cracks and drops his prices and the others may follow.

It's market forces at work. 

Posted by: Max Entropy at May 12, 2011 07:13 AM (lH6z9)

171 From the Public Education sector:

Cameras in U.S. schools to record calorie counts (cost $2M)


Teacher looks on during fight at Seagoville HS
In an update to this story, there is now a second video of a different fight in the classroom where the kids actually moved desks out of the way and took off their shirts and shoes before wailing on each other. The teacher said and did nothing.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 12, 2011 07:14 AM (LFiVW)

172 That's because in places that aren't New York City, people who aren't New Yorkers develop more slowly.

I remember when I was a young freshman of 30, and my mom pinned my registration money to my shirt so I could sign up for all my remedial writin' and cipherin' classes. Good times.


Also, backwater universities like LSU don't have graduate or doctoral programs, right? Just a bunch of ignit bitter clingers learning to count on their toes and what not.

Posted by: mpurinTexas (kicking Mexico's ass since 1836) at May 12, 2011 07:20 AM (LFiVW)

173 I am very concerned that electing Cain would leave us with whoever he chose as a vice president in charge.

Cain/Palin 2012!

Or a sitting president who is unable to function at top speed due to health.

TOTUS - narcissism, stupidity and is just being a dick a medical condition.

Posted by: Dave at May 12, 2011 07:23 AM (NFxlU)

174 Obviously, Latin America is decades behind the United States in its treatment and perception of its darker-skinned population, and that is particularly disturbing given that America, with its treatment of this nation's first black president and African Americans in general, isn't exactly so post-racial either.


we elected a black president as much because he was black as anything and yet every criticism is proof of our racism.

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