1 The bin Laden--- two shots and a splash

wish ida thought of it

2 May the fourth be with you!

3 Happy Quattro de Cinco to all!

4

Yesterday has come and gone and as we said yesterday not many have signed up for the debate

Here is the lineup from Fox

Number one, donÂ’t be fooled by the line-up. All the players will not be on the field Thursday. First hereÂ’s a list of the candidates who will be suiting up and appearing on the field: Tim Pawlenty, Ron Paul, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and Gary Johnson.

None of those candidates are currently on my short list.

5 On this day in 1886 the communists initiated their efforts for a takeover of the U.S. by throwing a bomb at the police at Haymarket Square Chicago.

6 Lulz, sent in two letters to the NY Daily News Voice of the People yesterday. I'll trust you morons (yeah, yeah, I'm still drunk) to keep my identity anonymous. 4th one down. They cut out the last line about hoping liberals will finally grow up, but I won't hold my breath.

http://tinyurl.com/6a7mgb

The other letter was my excitement about the Muslim burial thinking it meant we had sawed off bin Laden's head and posted the video on Youtube. Guess that one was a little too harsh for the victory mosque loving editors there...

7 About this big celebration at ground zero on thursday, wonder if Bin Laden had a contingency planned in the even he was killed. He would have had to realize there would be some kind of event at the wtc site when we finally got him.

8 We've already established John Boehner has the courage of a jellyfish, but is he really this stupid?

Boehner:  We should not distance Poch-ee-stohn.

This guy is an embarrassment.

9

A real sign of a power mad bureaucracy

The EPA is fighting the rest of the government over the I-73 extension to Myrtle Beach. Personally I am against this highway because it is a bad deal for SC. It doesn't connect ANY major cities in SC and simply follows the NC border just on the SC side until it nears Myrtle Beach. Yet SC will have to pay for it in a period when SC still has a huge deficit even after Hayley has cut funding for schools and other projects.

10
Trump bumped Obama
Obama thumps Osama
Obama trumps Trump

11 I just read the sidebar item about paying wind power operators to not produce power; heh, what a plan.
 
A highly variable power source like wind should include some way to store the power so that a more reliable and consistent output is maintained. This could be as simple as pumping water to a higher point with excess power then releasing it to run a turbine when needed.
 
Of course, that would mean more infrastructure, higher costs than the already 3x-5x it is at, and the unending hate of enviroweenies for probably chopping up a few sea kittens during this process.

12

Vic:  That's what regulatory agencies do.  They protect their turf against you, using your own money.

Giving Mother Earth her own regulatory agency set up to fight against people was the worst thing that came out of Watergate.

13 Let me be clear. Happy Cinco de Quatro.

14 Why I'm an idiot OR why I shouldn't trust the left, part #54231...

I saw many a lefty point out that Rumsfeld said that waterboarding didn't help capture OBL.  I didn't believe them, but doubt still entered my mind.

Now I read him clarifying his statement at DC Trawler. 

I hate leftys and their "perfect, perfect" politics.

15 The real problem with wind power is having to maintain a real power source to produce when the boutique power source doesn't.  So you wind up having to pay for and operate (or subsidize the wind) two power sources, one of which is adequate and one of which isn't.

16 Here's some news you car renting M&Ms can use:
 
A USA TODAY survey of auto rental gas prices at 13 big airports on April 25 found Hertz was charging $9.29 a gallon at all 13. Dollar and Thrifty were charging $8.99 a gallon at two.

At $9.29 a gallon, Hertz customers renting a Ford Club Wagon, which has a 35-gallon fuel tank, would owe Hertz $325.15 for gas if they returned the wagon with a nearly empty tank and hadn't prepaid for the gas.
 
I also recall reading the other day that a gas station in FL near the airport was selling gas at $5.69 per gallon. I think it was Ft. Lauderdale.

17 A highly variable power source like wind should include some way to store the power so that a more reliable and consistent output is maintained. This could be as simple as pumping water to a higher point with excess power then releasing it to run a turbine when needed.

I have been saying this for a long time. There is simply no way to connect wind turbines to the grid as a large percentage of your power source. Solar has the same problem, but to a lesser extent. Currently there is only one way to store electrical energy in a meaningful way and that is with batteries. Using batteries for a large scale grid application is simply not feasible.

What happens is that as the wind turbines vary in output, when they make up a large portion of the grid, that variable output becomes to great for the remainder of the grid to stabilize the frequency. This causes the frequency to start varying. This is known in the industry as grid instability and it is VERY bad.

All this wind and solar crap is a pipe dream from the eco-idiots aided by the communist politicians. Somewhere along the line the utilities must grow some balls and tell the idiots in Washington that it simply will not work.

18 >>Why I'm an idiot OR why I shouldn't trust the left, part #54231...
I saw many a lefty point out that Rumsfeld said that waterboarding didn't help capture OBL.  I didn't believe them, but doubt still entered my mind.
Posted by: Anony at May 04, 2011 07:36 AM (7ahtU)

Or maybe why you can trust Breitbart.

19 Vic:  That's what regulatory agencies do.  They protect their turf against you, using your own money.

Instead of wasting time on BS stuff the House should be defunding EPA. It is high time to disband that agency and fire everyone in it. Bureaucrats above first level supervisor would be forbidden from every working for the government again. 

20 So much for all the 'he was just a figurehead' stuff about OBL:
 
The covert operation that killed Osama bin Laden produced new evidence that the “emir” of al Qaeda actively commanded the terror group’s affiliates in Yemen, Somalia and other parts of North Africa and was not just an inspirational leader.

Materials found in bin LadenÂ’s compound include hard drives, thumb drives and a dedicated fiber-optic cable used for point-to-point access to the Internet, according to two U.S. officials who read initial after-action reports on the raid.
 
hmm, 'a dedicated fiber-optic cable used for point-to-point access to the Internet'. You don't say.

21 >> The real problem with wind power is having to maintain a real power source to produce when the boutique power source doesn't.  So you wind up having to pay for and operate (or subsidize the wind) two power sources, one of which is adequate and one of which isn't. I've been thinking about doing a post on this topic with some *shudder* math. The entire cost of a wind farm or solar field has to be burdened with the cost of a gas or coal plant that's sitting at the ready. Or, alternatively, the cost of the wind/solar energy needs to be compared not to fuel cost + cost recovery on the fossil fuel plant, but to the fuel cost ALONE. This charade is vastly more expensive than it's being sold as.

22 So we're engaged in kinetic something-something actions on three different fronts around the world, yet our "leaders" are pissing on themselves about releasing a photo of a dead f*cking tango?

The liberal mind, it eats its own.

23 Posted by: GnuBreed at May 04, 2011 07:48 AM (ENKCw)
But there was no telephone or internet connection to the safe house.

24

according to two U.S. officials who read initial after-action reports on the raid.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting real tired of "officials" and "informed sources" on this whole affair..

The story seems to change by the hour.

What's the deal here?

25 hmm, 'a dedicated fiber-optic cable used for point-to-point access to the Internet'. You don't say.

So......where's the other end of the cable?  ISI HQ?

26 Posted by: Andy at May 04, 2011 07:49 AM (veZ9n)
The engineering is way above the heads of the anointed--they already have the answer and it it green.  I would love to see a rational engineering analysis done for non-engineers, but...
The conversion losses, power inconstancy, and backup plant issues make these green sources marginal contributors to a "stable" power grid.  (Just think about the 130,000 acres of biofuel crops we just flooded, for example).  But the greens don't want or care about a stable grid, they really want a rationed grid so power is directed/available to the "right" people at the right time. 

"Power panels" anyone?

27 Posted by: nickless at May 04, 2011 08:01 AM (MMC8r)
Ace, better check your contributors IP addresses.

28

Oh, I just want to point out that my post wasn't aimed at Gnubreed, but the press.

It just seems that everyone has their "un-named source", or "official", or whomever. I think what they are reporting is stuff from persons who want to seem like they were in the loop, but how the hell do we know these people aren't just passing on gossip?

And I'll allow that yes, indeed things may not be what the WH reported, but damn, this just seems to have gotten out of hand.

29 The only places where wind turbines make any sense what-so-ever are in remote locations for small cabins. Where A/C is not a factor and a reliable source of wind is present.

There you could use batteries to store and regulate the output to feed small loads in the cabin.

30 Yes, the concepts of base load and peak load or peak demand power generation escapes the feelgood greenies, never mind the economics of power generation.

"Can't we just have a big battery for emergencies?"

31 Hey Vic. I figured something out that I wanted to show you.

32

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 08:09 AM (M9Ie6)

Is that feasible? I mean to take wind power and convert it to stored battery power?

33

I've been thinking about doing a post on this topic with some *shudder* math.

Andy:  YES

I can send you a paper I just wrote.  It's only tangentialy related-- it's on cap and trade-- but the works cited may be useful to you.

34

Is that feasible? I mean to take wind power and convert it to stored battery power?

Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 08:14 AM (6oDXl)

A Good friend tells me that the City of Las Vegas has done the country a service. They have bought every sort of Wind Energy or Solar Energy gizmo, and they have set them all up to operate at a site they own. They monitor the output of all the devices and post the information in real time on the internet.

If you want to find out about real time efficiencies of Solar or Wind, you need to check out that site.

35 Oh, I just want to point out that my post wasn't aimed at Gnubreed, but the press.
 
Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 08:09 AM (6oDXl)
 
No problemo. I got your point. Hell, we have gotten 3 different stories on the OBL takedown from the WH itself, so why should 'unnamed officials' be any less reliable?
 
And Ace wonders why conspiracy theories get started.

36 hmm, 'a dedicated fiber-optic cable used for point-to-point access to the Internet'. You don't say.

Posted by: GnuBreed

Just saying, but FO lines aren't like electrical cables, you can't splice or tap into one without the owner knowing ALL about it.

37 Just in case anyone was unsure that California is terminally boned.

The tyranny of flat sheets

38

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 04, 2011 08:18 AM (v2K2g)

What site was that? Or did I miss something.

Concerning Las Vegas and stored energy, two words.

Lake Mead.

But that's not a battery.

 

39 Hey Vic. I figured something out that I wanted to show you.

What?

Is that feasible? I mean to take wind power and convert it to stored battery power?

That is the only feasible way to do it and that only for small loads.

When charging a battery the source can vary widely in voltage and power to charge the battery while the power supplied by the battery will remain a stable DC at a voltage dependent on the number of cells.

This is how your car battery works even as the engine varies widely in RPM.

40 Posted by: todler at May 04, 2011 08:23 AM (fPOY0)
 
Good point. The more important issue, if true, is as nickless wonders, where is the other end of this line going to? Remember, this is a compound 'without phone or internet service'.
 
Perhaps Pakistan could trace that line down for us.........lol, I kill myself.

41

Concerning Las Vegas and stored energy, two words.

Lake Mead.

But that's not a battery.

Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 08:27 AM (6oDXl)

I'm looking for the site. My friend told me the name a half dozen times, but I didn't consider it important. I already knew wind energy is 4-5 times more expensive than coal or natural gas energy, so it is economically unfeasible. The only reason anyone is building wind plants nowadays is because Uncle Sugar is paying for them.

42 Vic and on sailboats

43 Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 08:27 AM (6oDXl)

Lake Mead is a horrible scar on my face. Dams are fascist. Don't you love me?

44 Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 08:27 AM (M9Ie6)

If you have a few minutes, go to this other "Ace of Spades HQ" thread, and read. Starting with message 309.

I discovered something that I THINK you might find interesting.

45

GNU, I suppose it's possible it was going to a neighbours house, who would then have a second computer to get OBL's crap. then it's a matter of transfering to dvd, and bob's your uncle.

And yeah, VERY curious where the other end is located.

46

Dams are fascist

Sorry, you mis-spelled Dem.

HTH...

47 Run Vic, run!

The birthers are coming!

48 51 Run Vic, run!

The birthers are coming!

Posted by: The bitter tears of Gaia at May 04, 2011 08:36 AM (LH6ir)

Wise you are indeed, to know something without ever having looked at it.

49 I discovered something that I THINK you might find interesting.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 04, 2011 08:32 AM (v2K2g)

Interesting but doesn't prove much. So what if the other guy is his father. They would make him more of a citizen, not less. 

Personally I am more than ready for the whole birther issue to disappear. I'm with Ace on this one.

50 One other thing, she is certainly older than 14 in that photo.

51 Whoever posted that gif of the way Obama should've handled the press conference, thanks.  I'm still laughing my ass off.

52 The economics of transmission, energy conversion, energy storage, and small infrastructure support localized green energy as a great way to support low level power needs, i.e., the cabin in the woods.  Modern day electronics can make this sort of system very practical although not necessarily cheap.  When you try to get into the large scale distribution of green energy, that is where the real problems start.

A link to the Las Vegas site would be nice.

53

Interesting but doesn't prove much. So what if the other guy is his father. They would make him more of a citizen, not less.

My point exactly. As far as *i'm* concerned, he IS a "Natural Born Citizen."

Personally I am more than ready for the whole birther issue to disappear. I'm with Ace on this one.

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 08:39 AM (M9Ie6)

Ace wanted it over before it began. Anyway, I remember you arguing on my side previously, so I THOUGHT you might want to be aware of this.

54 Ace wanted it over before it began. Anyway, I remember you arguing on my side previously, so I THOUGHT you might want to be aware of this.

My only concern with the birther issue has always been why hasn't he released the original BC.

55 54 One other thing, she is certainly older than 14 in that photo.

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 08:40 AM (M9Ie6)

That Photo was taken December 1960. (The Jazz Album Proves it.) The EXACT time that Barack was conceived. By the Way, Muslim's don't celebrate Christmas, so that is NOT "Barack Sr.'s" Apartment.

Isn't it funny? I find a break through, but the issue is already over!

56

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 08:42 AM (yrGif)

Of course one of the problems with the 'cabin in the woods' scenario is that trees block wind.

Hmmm...

57 A link to the Las Vegas site would be nice.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 08:42 AM (yrGif)

Let me see if I can find one. I couldn't find one with a quick search, but most likely "Watts Up with That" blog will have a link. I'll check there.

58 I have no doubt that the military got OBL.  I DO wish this administration would,  for once,  have just put out the facts in an orderly manner.

The confusion and suspicion caused by the conflicting statements as well as the hyperbole of some of the principles ("gutsiest call by a president, ever")  is undermining any of the benefits our foreign policy could derive from the killing of bin Laden after a relentless 10-year search.

This was the perfect opportunity for Obama to point out that it doesn't matter who is in the Oval Office,  we will continue the war and bring our enemies to justice. 

Instead,  we are treated to a clown car presentation with cartoon-like descriptions of Obama ("Cool Hand Barack" by Maureen Dowd, for example).  I pointed out yesterday that these changing stories were going to cause problems.

Today,  the Taliban says bin Laden isn't dead because we have no proof.   Conspiracy theories are springing up like weeds in my soggy garden.  And all the President can seem to do is use this for some sort of campaign to improve his poll numbers (shades of Bill CLinton after Oklahoma City).

I suppose we will be treated soon to another lecture on conspiracy theories and why they are pointless and detrimental to the 2012 campaign,  but at least I get my opportunity right now to say that the reason these conspiracy theories will be percolating for the next few years is directly because of how terribly the Obama people have handled this. 

59 For the first time in my life I am proud of this president. No, really.

60 I saw Osama at McDonald's last night.

61
My only concern with the birther issue has always been why hasn't he released the original BC.

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 08:47 AM (M9Ie6)

My guess is it's been amended. It has been recently pointed out to me that the Father's birthday on the recently released long form certificate is off by two years. You would think that if the man was present , he would have gotten his own birth year correct.

62 It seems Leon Panetta may be the only non-lying stand up guy in the entire zerO administration. The rest of that pack of maggots will have to get rid of him.

63
Regarding the sidebar note to release the photos.

I believe they should release the deer-in-the-headlights photo while he was still ticking.

64 The Osama murder is officially forgotten, just paid $70 to put gas in my truck.

65  Let me be clear. Happy Cinco de Quatro.

Posted by: Barack at May 04, 2011 07:35 AM (veZ9n)

 

Is that Austrian?

66 I want the whole series of photos, starting with his staring down the barrel, then time sequenced shots taken .1 seconds apart through the execution and fall, with his brains stopped in mid flight across the room.

67 The Los Vegas site is probably not really germane to the argument pro or con on wind/solar power other than how much money is going into the hole in the ground.

The amount of power coming out of a site like that compared to the remaining grid is exceedingly small. That allows the remaining grid to stabilize the frequency. Think of it as a small toy boat that used a rubber man wind up propeller for movement. Then imagine that propeller being placed against a 16 foot propeller from an aircraft carrier and trying to vary the RMP.

68 I'm not finding it. I'll ask the guy next time I see him and then write it down. Like I said, I didn't need real time confirmation that wind and solar aren't economically viable. I already knew that.

69 The amount of power coming out of a site like that compared to the remaining grid is exceedingly small. That allows the remaining grid to stabilize the frequency. Think of it as a small toy boat that used a rubber man wind up propeller for movement. Then imagine that propeller being placed against a 16 foot propeller from an aircraft carrier and trying to vary the RMP.

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 09:02 AM (M9Ie6)

The point of the site was to demonstrate in real time the Cost of the Various Wind and Solar devices, and how fast they are generating electricity to pay for themselves.

NONE of them are doing that. None of them are living up to manufactures claimed specifications. I think they are only getting within 3% of claimed specs. (According to what my friend told me.) I would call him right now, but I'm afraid to wake him up. He's on vacation for the next week and a half.

70 I gotta live for a few minutes. Be back shortly.

71 Leave! LEAVE!

72
maddogg, it should be only a matter of time before we get the wiki leaks version you described.

 It does need to be out there so the muzzy's can know what to expect for a  response.

73

Wednesday morning and still no OBL pics.  La, la, la.  Meanwhile the Islamic world is, surprise surprise, up in arms about his death, vowing revenge and hatching lunatic conspiracy theories that would give Ace a heart attack. 

And still nothing from the White House.

You know, we used to have marginally competent leaders, back in the good old days.  I kind of wish it was 1985 again.  Or at least 2002.  Hell, I'd take 1996, when the worst we had to deal with was a manslut in the Oval Office.

74

Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 04, 2011 09:05 AM (v2K2g)

(Laughs)

Be nice here people...

75

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 09:08 AM (4df7R)

To say out loud you perfer competent leadership is to admit that you are racist.

Heh.

76

Posted by: MWR at May 04, 2011 09:08 AM (4df7R)

To say out loud you perfer competent leadership is to admit that you are racist.

Heh.

Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:11 AM (OlN4e)

You are, of course, correct.

...I denounce myself.

77 I occasionally make mistakes, but I eventually correct them.

78 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 04, 2011 09:04 AM (v2K2g)
Agree that it is not the contribution to the grid from Vegas that is important, it is access to a working instrumented green system equipment that is NOT in a lab or exists only on a spec sheet. This is real data that can be used in a serious analysis of performance. 
Now if only I could trust the values from the instrumentation (a la the Climate rigging of data).

79

To say out loud you perfer competent leadership is to admit that you are racist.

Heh.

Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:11 AM (OlN4e)

If you oppose Affirmative Action you are a Racist.

80 Now if only I could trust the values from the instrumentation (a la the Climate rigging of data).

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 09:14 AM (yrGif)

Give me a few minutes and i'll call the guy and ask him what is the name of the site.

81 Posted by: DiogenesLamp at May 04, 2011 09:15 AM (v2K2g)

In another 300 years, they will have worked the Affirmative Action details out!

Consider me denounced in advance.

82

How do you know the White House is dragging it's feet on releasing the OBL pictures?

When Drudge changes his headline from anything related to bin Laden and replaces it with "1 in 7 Receive Food Stamps."

An similarly harrowing headline, really.

83 He's not answering.

84

The whole problem is, we don't know exactly what happened. Mission to capture/kill/bin Laden happened.

But no real, down to earth details. Helicopter crashed? Number of military involved on the ground? Persons killed?

Someone knows all the details, at least of the raid. Why this person hasn't come out and stated the facts is beyond me.

And that is just stupid, as far as the WH is concerned.

As many a person has posted, that just leads to conspiracy crap. Which doesn't help us in any way, shape or form.

 

85 If releasing the photo of dead bin Laden is going to enrage the Muslim world, apparently because they all worship him like a saint, then the politicians have been wrong all this time.  We ARE at war with Islam.  

86 Pakistan says (from side bar) it warned the US about the compound 2 years ago. Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiitttttt. Givemeafukkinbreak chicken dropping. You clowns have been keeping OBL like a pet for years, and now your trying to cover your lying asses. To peddle that stupid shit to Joy Bahar.

87 This should never have seen the light of day, but adds to the green discussion.
http://tinyurl.com/3um5syy

88 89 He's not answering.

Posted by: DiogenesLamp

His name wasn't bin Laden was it? lol

89 Have you heard the latest narrative? The Obama Administration cannot keep the facts straight on how bin Laden was killed because of the................ FOG OF (videotaped) WAR. Parenthesis mine.

90 I'm not finding it through google either. Forget I mentioned it.

91 Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 04, 2011 09:22 AM (u2fPF)

Interesting cognitive dissonance there (or maybe it is integrative complexity), but
A. Osama truly represents the islamic "religion" and thus deserves full burial courtesies.
B. Osama truly worships a false highjacked version of the true religion of peace.

Analysis: 
If A, then we are (or should be) at total war with islam.
If B. then he should not be buried in accordance with the customary religion of peace burial trappings.

Discuss.

92 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point.

93 this is one of the power plants in vegas--didn't find the link to instrumentation.
http://tinyurl.com/3o2d484

94 "People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." (unknown). Too much talk about bin Laden - it's turning into an Oprah moment. He was a very bad guy, he's deservedly dead, and our rough men did it. End of story.

95 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point.

Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:35 AM (OlN4e)

And the Argentinians would have been pissed if we had called him "Tango".

96

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 09:37 AM (yrGif)

We should have called him "Shaka".

97

Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 09:09 AM (6oDXl)

Low-hanging fruit is sometimes best left on the tree.

98 He called back. He said it wasn't Las Vegas, it was Reno.

He says it's "energy Reno" something.  He's looking it up now.

99 Posted by: Radar at May 04, 2011 09:36 AM (8xYyJ)

George Orwell

100

We should have called him "Shaka".

So I guess that "Dead Man Walking" would have been too long a radio call.

101 Or mebbe we should have code named OBL "Pancho". The Messicans would get pissed put they don't mind pissing us off, so return the favor I say.

102 Here is the link.

http://tinyurl.com/6eezek4

103 Maybe George Orwell - never confirmed

104 You can get anything you want, At Alice's Restaurant bin Laden's Body... bin Laden's Body: The Restaurant Review (Probably NSFW) It's where the aquatic elite meet to eat!

105 101 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point. Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:35 AM (OlN4e) And the Argentinians would have been pissed if we had called him "Tango". ------------------------------------------------ So really, the only politically correct code name for bin Laden would have been............... White Boy.

106

Posted by: naturalfake at May 04, 2011 09:44 AM (I49Jm)

OBL is, for the first time in his useless, wasted life, doing some good.

107 Actually, Geronimo was quite the savage murdering bastard. The Army respected him enough to allow his surrender, rather than just plug him and leave him for the buzzards. OBL? Not so much.

108 Posted by: Carnoustie at May 04, 2011 09:45 AM (CDtZU)
Thread Winner IMHO!

Completely non-offensive to anyone that matters!

109

So I guess that "Dead Man Walking" would have been too long a radio call.

Posted by: HH at May 04, 2011 09:41 AM (6oDXl)

Ger-on-i-mo = 4 syllables

Dead Man Wal-king = 4 syllables

So not much difference, really, except for the connotation.  The latter wouldn't have played well in the press, you see.  "So it WAS just a kill mission, is that what you're saying?"

110 John Yoo kicks the shit out of Obama.


_{Hey, maybe we should run him for POTUS!}

111 111 101 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point.
Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:35 AM (OlN4e)

Why do they care about using Geronimo?  I mean, I could understand them getting pissed if OBL had been code named "Gandhi" or something...   (I keed!)

112 Of course it was a kill mission. zerO didn't want to contend with a circus trial put on by his own party. A disaster in the making, with zerO taking a high hard one a mile up the poop chute.

113

My potential code name for OBL:

Toast

114 Analysis: 
If A, then we are (or should be) at total war with islam.
If B. then he should not be buried in accordance with the customary religion of peace burial trappings.

Discuss.

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 09:31 AM (yrGif)

Answer:  A, but also B. 

OBL was an evil bastard.  Why?  He followed the teachings of Islam/Mohammed.  The muz love him because he did what most of them are too stupid and cowardly to do.  People always tell me about all the muz who don't go around blowing shit up, but just because someone doesn't have the stones to do what his religion requires doesn't mean he doesn't believe it's the right thing to do. 

We should not honor that "religion" nor its adherents in any way, either in death or in life.

115

I'm glad salt can join fat on the food rehab circuit.   That means bacon.

They were right about sugar being bad in quantity.  Too bad about the "cried wolf" aspect of all this.    

116 Of course it was a kill mission. zerO didn't want to contend with a circus trial put on by his own party. A disaster in the making, with zerO taking a high hard one a mile up the poop chute.

Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:53 AM (OlN4e)

I think this is exactly it.  No messy quarrels over BS libtard "principles." 

While I rejoice in his demise, personally I'd love to have taken OBL alive.  I'd have had him tortured day and night and subjected to KGB style brain washing techniques until he renounced Islam.  Then I'd sent him around on a speaking tour to bad-mouth Islam and denounce his past terroristic activities.  He'd be accompanied by his pet pig.  He'd be a puppet on a string, illustrating the hopeless impotence of our enemy.

117 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point.

Posted by: maddogg

 

They wanted to call it operation Pocahontas cause.......payback's a bitch.

118

It's obvious not everyone in Pakistan knew about Bin Laden, or that nobody knew. 

It is interesting that he lived out of the eyes of his neighbors.  That does not suggest he trusted everyone in Pak to keep his secret.  Apparently our people didn't see OBL during months of 24-7 surveillance.  And that some of his family lives there, given the multiple wives and scores of kids, isn't quite the clue it is in our culture.

So as usual, Pakistan is clear as mud.    

 

119 64 I saw Osama at McDonald's last night.
Posted by: Elvis at May 04, 2011 08:51 AM (B7H9C)
__________

Osama is not dead, he just went home.

120 Jimmy Carter Cheers Hamas-Fatah Unification: It Will Bring Peace

In a Washington Post article, Carter wrote that “if the United States and the international community support this effort, they can help Palestinian democracy and establish the basis for a unified Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza that can make a secure peace with Israel.” However, “if they remain aloof or undermine the agreement,” it may lead to more violence against Israel.

Carter added that the accord between Hamas and Fatah are “a Palestinian contribution to the ‘Arab awakening,’” and that a Palestinian state can not be formed while they are divided. “Instead of exacerbating differences between the two parties,” he wrote, “the international community should help them resolve disagreements through electoral and legislative processes.”

121

We should have called him "Shaka".

So I guess that "Dead Man Walking" would have been too long a radio call.

I favor 'Deadmeat' personally, though 'Dingleberry' would be fine in a pinch...

122 What the hell is this Muslim-American crap?  Maybe I'm just dense or doing some selective filtering but I don't recall ever seeing someone described as Mormon-American, Catholic-American, Baptist-American, or even Shinto-American.  WTF?  It's like CAIR, who I'd hate by their name alone.  By their own name they view Americans and Muslims as separate groups who's 'Relations' need to be mediated by this council.  Who, conveniently enough, seem to pretty much be all-muslim.  It's enough to make you go: hmmm.

123 So the Indians are pissed that OBL was given the code name "Geronimo". Yeah, I can see their point.

Posted by: maddogg at May 04, 2011 09:35 AM (OlN4e)

And the Argentinians would have been pissed if we had called him "Tango".

Posted by: Hrothgar at May 04, 2011 09:37 AM (yrGif)

 

Who would have been pissed if we called him Goatfucker?

124 A possible landmark ruling in one of the mass-BitTorrent lawsuits in the U.S. may spell the end of the “pay-up-or-else-schemes” that have targeted over 100,000 Internet users in the last year. District Court Judge Harold Baker has denied a copyright holder the right to subpoena the ISPs of alleged copyright infringers, because an IP-address does not equal a person.
...
Among other things Judge Baker cited a recent child porn case where the U.S. authorities raided the wrong people, because the real offenders were piggybacking on their Wi-Fi connections. Using this example, the judge claims that several of the defendants in VPR’s case may have nothing to do with the alleged offense either.“
The infringer might be the subscriber, someone in the subscriber’s household, a visitor with her laptop, a neighbor, or someone parked on the street at any given moment,” Judge Baker writes.

125

Who would have been pissed if we called him Goatfucker?

Maybe that was too common a name in those parts...

126 Fox News just said that, now that OBL is dead, France is thinking about withdrawing from Afghanistan.

127 The Regime won't fund Texas disaster relief for wildfires. Nice..

128 It's not a frequency match problem.  If you don't match frequency your just noise on the line and another load to the grid.  It's power match.  The grid is always matched power generated in matches power used + lost.  There is no grid scale way to store electricity.  Batteries won't scale that big, water pumping isn't efficient, etc.

Spend a few hours reading Den Beste and you can save days ignoring greens.

http://denbeste.nu/ cd_log_entries /2004/06/ AnewManhattanProject .shtml

129 133: Its of a piece with flooding MO to save ILL any worry. AL only got disaster status because the tornados got so much publicity and they hit Tuskaloosa hardest.

130

I don't know about you guys, but I'm getting real tired of "officials" and "informed sources" on this whole affair..

The story seems to change by the hour.

Which will be the reason if Obama loses in '12.  Most Americans know, by now, that we cannot trust him and his people. 

I believe Osama is dead but release the photos already.

131 Fox News just said that, now that OBL is dead, France is thinking about withdrawing from Afghanistan.

That wouldn't really surprise anybody; would it?

132 If you don't match frequency your just noise on the line and another load to the grid.

Trust me, any generator connected to the grid will ALWAYS match the frequency. if a generation source is large enough it can effect the frequency of the grid.

133

Of course it was a kill mission. zerO didn't want to contend with a circus trial put on by his own party.

That would have been a disaster for his campaign.

134
Posted by: Dave at May 04, 2011 10:35 AM (9z8cO)

Sounds interesting.

Please learn how to post links that work.

135
 I swear this admin resembles a cross between the Keystone Kops and the Gang That Couldn't Shoot straight. Minus the competency.

  Question here for the knowledgeable--doesn't solar or wind power only make sense as an adjunct to conventional sources?  Strikes me that it can be used as such on a very small scale. Like individual home size. I think storage problems would be much easier to overcome.  Stupid or somewhat practical?

136 So did Teh Donald fire Meat Loaf, or did he, like Obama, sleep on it -- to be determined at a later date?

In any event, he better decide quick or the wily Meat Loaf, it is rumored, may escape like a bat of hell!

137
Fox News just said that, now that OBL is dead, France is thinking about withdrawing from Afghanistan.





Fine. Laser-guided bagettes and camembert weren't exactly effective ordnance, except for causing acute halitosis.

138 #140
I usually do.  That was a sort of show your work answer, as in go here on the tree in Steve's old site.  Then read around until you can just ignore greenies.  And maybe ignore quick resolution theocidalists who don't get the concept of cultural victory or long war as a bonus. 

No tinyurl til 2nd cupajo.

139 Geronimo complaints? Maybe he should have been called "Porky".

140

What this admin needs, frankly, is someone like Norm Schwarzkoph, to give a press breifing.

And that would be that. Event that happened, how it happened. Nothing pretty, just the facts.

That man had the best briefings to the press I've ever seen during the Gulf War. Hell, he called out the CIA on their lack of Intelligance during a live press conference.

Not only have we not seen anything even close to this for these past few days, but I don't indurstand whay no one in the current admin doesn't have either the authority, or clarity, to tell the American People what went down.

Jesus.H...

141

And about my spelling....

Probably the reason I'm not a proof-reader.

C-...

142

What this admin needs, frankly, is someone like Norm Schwarzkoph, to give a press breifing.

And that would be that. Event that happened, how it happened. Nothing pretty, just the facts.

That man had the best briefings to the press I've ever seen during the Gulf War. Hell, he called out the CIA on their lack of Intelligance during a live press conference.

Posted by: HH

 

Remember when he showed the fighterbombers dropping bridges, and pointed out "the luckiest man in Iraq" as he was the last truck driver to make it over the bridge AS it was being hit?

 

That was comedy gold.

143 That man had the best briefings to the press I've ever seen during the Gulf War. Hell, he called out the CIA on their lack of Intelligance during a live press conference.

I remember him calling out a reporter who was questioning the danger of traversing a minefield. NS asked: Have you ever been in a minefield? It only takes one!

I expect the reporter had to change his pants before he could write up his report.

Which reminds me, somewhere I have a VHS of the 'mother of all press briefings.'

144 The NYT poll with the +11 Obama bounce also shows he has a 34% approval rating on the economy. All this talk about the 2012 election being a cake-walk is nonsense.

145 Looks like I'm going to have to change my posting name...

146 Racist Religionist!

147 The Ewok has fleas! Repeat. The Ewok has fleas!

148 Trust me, any generator connected to the grid will ALWAYS match the frequency. if a generation source is large enough it can effect the frequency of the grid.

Posted by: Vic at May 04, 2011 10:44 AM (M9Ie6)

Eventually, any generator brought online will match the grid frequency; however, it is possible to destroy a generator if it is done incorrectly.

149

Looks like I'm going to have to change my posting name...

Like you have problems.

150 Rasmussen's new poll about Republicans losing support for the budget is also a bit misleading. The list of questions asked are open-ended but they do yield some interesting results:

31% of voters accurately believe the proposal presented by Ryan calls for major changes in defense, Social Security and Medicare. 16% say it does not change these politically sensitive areas, but 53% arenÂ’t sure. 48% of voters recognize that it is necessary to make major changes in defense, Social Security, and Medicare to make truly significant, long-term cuts in spending.

But only 33% have paid attention to the plan. This is also interesting but not surprising:

Mainstream voters who have an opinion of Ryan are inclined to view him favorably, while those in the Political Class tend to view him unfavorably.

Fifty-three percent (53%) of the Political Class have no opinion of the Ryan budget proposal, but 46% oppose it. Forty-five percent (45%) of Mainstream voters are not sure what they think of the plan, but the others by a 32% to 23% margin favor it.

151 Posted by: Downscaled Upscale at May 04, 2011 12:01 PM (IhHdM)

Thought that was the point of the unique user internet id regulation initiative!

http://tinyurl.com/2cp8oqu

Obviously, the content crowd contributed to the right politicians.

152

Like you have problems.

Posted by: A. Hitler at May 04, 2011 12:15 PM (GkYyh)

Tell me about it, Alan!

153 Endorsement you never want:
Carter likes the idea of candidate Huntsman

154

Looks like I'm going to have to change my posting name...

Like you have problems.

Posted by: A. Hitler

 

Feh. I wish that I had your problem.

155 Endorsement you never want:
Carter likes the idea of candidate Huntsman

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby

 

Did I mention that I secured the endorsement of Kim Il Jong while I was in N.Korea? Fidel is still mulling it over.

156 Feds Allow Illegal Aliens to Cross Border 14 Times Before Charging Them With Felony, Sheriff Tells Congress

Sheriff Larry Dever of Cochise County, Ariz., told a House subcommittee today that in one U.S. attorney's district in Texas illegal aliens are allowed to be caught crossing the border 7 times before they are charged with a misdeamanor and 14 times before they are charged with a felony.

Dever further said the policies call for considering federal human smuggling charges only if at least 6 illegal aliens are being transported.

157

Posted by: B. Mussolini at May 04, 2011 12:21 PM (Y1DZt)

Benny!

You still hanging around?

158
Not that I do anything illegal, but I've always known that I could beat any copyright charge by the fact that I keep my wireless 'open' to others. Prove it was me, and not some knucklehead parked out in the street with a laptop. Expect new legislation by our betters to cover this ruling in 3.2.1...

 Would the IP give 'them' probable cause for a warrant to your computer and any other electronic storage device? I'd hate to have to give up my computers, mp3 players, and external drives for investigation, then prove any and all of the MP3 or other copywritten files on them are legit, just because some knucklehead downloaded some music files off my open connection.  Or worse, kiddie pron.  THAT will get the police involved.

159 OBL operation code name: Chum
 Target: Chumley

160 "Watch your pants kid, or you'll find yourself floating home!" #replaceawordinastarwarslinewithpants

161

Benny!

You still hanging around?

Posted by: A. Hitler at May 04, 2011 12:32 PM (1kwr2)

I would've liked to see Benny click HIS heels together 3 times and say "There's no place like home". That would have been a neat party trick.

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