1

Fox did a report on this BS yesterday

It is another fine example of a government bureaucracy expanding its reach far beyond what congress allocated to it when it was constructed. Now the FDA have decided that there is an overwhelming need to regulate the labels on sunscreen. Whole new books of regulations about how the PF is done, what can be posted, and what you even call sunscreen on the label.

The FDA (as we know it today) was born out of the Food and Drug Act of 1906. Our own “progressive” Teddy Roosevelt was one of the driving forces. Since then they have grown to gargantuan size and authority over all kinds of food and drugs. But now sunscreen??? This is neither a food not a drug. Anyone with an IQ above that of a Fig Newton either knows how to pick out sunscreen or can figure out how to learn to pick it out. Has there been some kind of study that showed massive public problems caused by bad labeling? - NO Has congress held hearings? - NO  In fact, congress has done nothing to authorize this expansion of government power into private business. The FDA, like a bunch of other Obama agencies simply took it upon themselves to relegate this power to themselves.

As we saw with the cases of the rabbits, unchecked bureaucratic meddling has become the biggest source of loss of freedom in the U.S. Forget no knock drug raids. There are really few of those.  But damn near every minute of your life is now regulated in once form or another.

2

We all know how dumb American students are in match, science, and geography.

Well now you can add history to their lack of knowledge.

Fewer than a quarter of American 12th-graders knew China was North Korea's ally during the Korean War, and only 35% of fourth-graders knew the purpose of the Declaration of Independence, according to national history-test scores released Tuesday.

But IÂ’ll bet they are experts at diversity in 18^th century colonial America and tell you the exploits and inventions of the oppressed womyn of Boston.

3

On this day in 1215 King John was forced to sign and seal the Magna Carter.

4

Lindsay Graham RINO 'n chief hasn't been getting enough face time lately

So he does the one thing he knows is guaranteed to get a press microphone in his face, attack another Republican. (Even if it is another RINO).

5

Democrat assholes couldn't get the Dream Act through in that disastrous lame duck session

So why is dingy Harry reintroducing it now when he has even less support? Pandering pure and simple because there is an election in 2012 and their base is not happy now.

So what does he have to say?

During a firefight in 2003, near Umm Qasr, Iraq, Lance Cpl. José Luis Gutierrez became one of the first American casualties of that war. Ironically, Cpl. Gutierrez was not an American citizen when he died. He was a lawful permanent resident, born in Guatemala, who came to the United States illegally a few years before.

So why was he in the Army and not deported Harry? In addition, where in this worthless paper does it tell you that the Armed forces ALREADY have a program for immigrants to earn American citizenship through serving in the Armed forces. The BS dream act is just another attempt by the Democrats to blow amnesty through.

6

Agent's testimony provides evidence that DOJ officials lied to congress

Now the question is, did the DOJ official get sworn in? Anytime a Republican testifies they get sworn in while the Dems try to catch them in perjury traps about meaningless crap.

7

We need a new internet law on debate

We have GodwinÂ’s law that talks about comparing things to Hitler in a debate. What about comparing things to “slavery”?  This has started cropping up more and more lately.

8

As I predicted months ago, the SC redistricting plan is headed for court

They havenÂ’t got a prayer of winning but it is all about dragging feet and delaying until after the 2012 election.

9 Magna Carter.

Hey, that was mah ancestah!

10

The U.K. continues its decline into failure

11 And that's it for the news this morning and time for Dr. Detroit. Back later

12 I hear you on the peanut butter thing.  That is just so true.

13 Ever notice that in any painting of the signing of the Magna Carter King John looks really pissed?

14 The House ethics committee has a full slate from dragging its feet. [newsbusters]

15 Damn had to cut my walk short. Dog and new puppy from next door decided they needed to follow me all over the neighborhood barking and yipping at other neighbor's dogs.

This State beats all I have ever seen. It is everyone's God given right to own a dog and let it roam.

16

Paraprosdokians

Number 2 is my favorite. Not sure why my husband picked number 20 to quote when he sent me the link...just random, right?

17 Despite the fact that I will vote for any of the current candidates over JEF, yes, even RonPaul!, I hope Rick Perry gets in, and I hope he is all that I imagine him to be.

But I've been disappointed before.

18 Maxine Waters should not be investigated by the worthless "ethics committee". She should be investigated by the FBI and then prosecuted.

But that's the DOJ and Eric "black man's law" Holder. It will never happen.

19 They don't really teach American history anymore, they are too busy indoctrinating the kids into being good citizens of the world. No need to think about American exceptionalism.
You can see proof of this on the teen and student Jeopardy tournaments. These kids are the brightest and the best, and they are consistently weak in American history.

20 Paraprosdokians

Does A and B, but mostly B count as a paraprosdokian?

21 Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:35 AM (M9Ie6)

Vic..I enjoy your links and comment...but are you an anti-dog-ist??????

22 Vic..I enjoy your links and comment...but are you an anti-dog-ist??????

I am all for a dog as long as you keep it in your own yard.

23 Are 4th graders really supposed to know any history?  I remember that at the end of the 3rd grade, we could read, and write, and cipher but I don't remember history being taught at all.  The 4th grade kind of hazy to me but I recall it as being more of the same.  It seems like we didn't really learn any history until the 6th grade.

24 "But now sunscreen??? This is neither a food not a drug."
Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)

You fucking bloody stupid bagger of tea. You've obviously never been to the beach; over 60% of beachgoers regularly consume sunscreen for protection inside and out. The establishment knows this since the statistics originate from our sources for proof of global warming. Sop trying to kill women/children/the elderly with your ignorance. My Spice harvester is under attack! BUILD ME A MOTHERFUCKING CARRYALL!! BLESSED BE THE GOD OF GOLD AND SILVER!!!

25 Are 4th graders really supposed to know any history?  I remember that at the end of the 3rd grade, we could read, and write, and cipher but I don't remember history being taught at all.

If I recall correctly we started with State history in the 4th or 5th grade. Got U.S. history the next year and then world history the year after that,

The repeated the U.S. history again in High School at a deeper level.

26 23. Yeah I don't think they get too much history. I will find out I guess, but my 3rd grader hasn't had any really yet, just math, reading, spelling, writing mostly (oh, and Religion!).

27 4th grade was the year we learned Va. history.

28 (oh, and Religion!).

You mean AGW?

29 28. lol no my kids are in Evil Catholic Schools

30

We had a mandatory course called Americanism VS Communism in High School.

Get off my lawn.

31 no my kids are in Evil Catholic Schools

That means they are getting a good education.

32 We had a mandatory course called Americanism VS Communism in High School.

We got that in Civics class in the 9th grade.

33

Are 4th graders really supposed to know any history?

Knowing the purpose of the Declaration of Independence is pretty basic.

Schoolhouse Rock still rules.

34

Does A and B, but mostly B count as a paraprosdokian?

I guess. I give you the ruling...this time.

35

Yeah, it seems to me that we also did the World history/American history alternating when I was growing up.

And as kids, we really thought the Ancient Romans were way cool...

36

http://tinyurl.com/6e8a3z3.

Don't worry about the sunscreen as you'll have more important things to worry about.

37 We learned about the pilgrims in kindergarten when we made turkeys from our hand tracings for Thanksgiving. The official songs of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines were sung in 4th grade. Minnesota public schools in the 60s.

38 My little Class B school started Texas history in 6th grade and U.S. history and government in 7th.  We were still the good guys back then. 

39 All love is unrequited. 

40 But damn near every minute of your life is now regulated in once form or another.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)

 

Sadly this is too true.  People give me funny looks when I talk about moving to a poor Caribbean country, but at least there the government is too poor to meddle in every aspect of your life.  Also, there are way fewer damn do-gooders running around with a lot of time on their hands.   That's the problem with the US - too many people trying to "do what's best for you."  That, and the horde of leftist pigs who try to steal every dime you make to give  to the "poor."

 

 

41

Vic's link and comment about the FDA chaps my ass as much as any thing else he posted.   I expect Lindsay Graham to exhibit dickish behavior.

You ever seen a headline "Govt Program Completes Its Mission, Disbands"? 

42 It's a shame schools don't teach history. But if they did it would be a bunch of pc crap anyway. What good is fiction history? It's as bad as teaching kids global warming is killing the polar bears.

43

And as kids, we really thought the Ancient Romans were way cool...

Posted by: HH at June 15, 2011 07:59 AM (6oDXl)

 

...I got a real kick out of the part where they used to gorge themselves at feasts then use a feather to tickle the back of their throats till they puked, and did it all over again...

44 Vic, the John Brown clause

45 Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love. Really? Unrequited love is when I get to taste peanut butter the most.

46 Anyone have any idea if ace bans a random set of IPs along with the announced ones? My IP seems to be banned, but I don't recall writing anything more offensive than usual.

47 CanaDave, so Caligula as a teaching tool.

48

Anyone have any idea if ace bans a random set of IPs along with the announced ones?

Yep. Well, not random. "Near-by".

49 I've been thinking about the MFM and Fox's meme that Pawlenty failed in the debate because he didn't attack Romney sufficiently.

As I recall, back in 2004, John Edwards had one last debate to take down John Kerry.  Edwards should have been wearing knee pads because he spent the entire hour blowing John Kerry's horn.

50 48 CanaDave, so Caligula as a teaching tool.

Posted by: Jean at June 15, 2011 08:20 AM (E4Xqk)

 

...I have to admit, that impressed me as a kid...in a gross out sort of way.  Nothing compared to the Obama administration and Nancy Pelosi's congress though...

51 7

We need a new internet law on debate

We have GodwinÂ’s law that talks about comparing things to Hitler in a debate. What about comparing things to “slavery”?  This has started cropping up more and more lately.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:16 AM (M9Ie6)

Vic's Law!

Actually, there is probably a nice Latin term drawn from the discipline of Logic that would cover all these cases of false equivalence. The internet would be a better place with more formal logic, methinks.

52 48 Jean. Vomitoriums were part of history. Speaking of vomitoriums, has anyone seen the movie The Human Centipede? Vomitoriums may make a comeback.

53 thankfully i've missed that movie. It has no appeal. but then much of what holywood puts out loses my interest fast nowadays.

54 "The Obama administration is seeking PakistanÂ’s support in brokering an endgame in the war in neighboring Afghanistan." NYT, Schmitt & Mazetti

Undiplomatic drones aside, this "Obama Doctrine" explains why Obama ordered an invasive act of war against Pakistan. Then, given the state of war between the US and Pakistan that Obama started, from Pakistan's point of view, Pakistani C.I.A. informants have committed treason by siding with the US over Pakistan's sovereignty.

"Weeks after the raid that killed Osama bin Laden at this compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan arrested C.I.A. informants who had assisted in the operation. Senate Intelligence Committee asked Michael J. Morell, the deputy C.I.A. director, to rate Pakistan’s cooperation with the United States on counterterrorism operations, on a scale of 1 to 10. 'Three,' he responded.”

Never fear, because the politician who can't decide which intelligence agency he directs, Leon Panetta, arrived last week in Pakistan to clear the air with Pakistani military and intelligence officers, delivering the latest Obama Doctrine. "You're either with us or against us." Sound familiar?

Bear in mind the statements from Pakistani Bhutto, US hospital witnesses, retired C.I.A. officials from the region, British intelligence, French and Italian intelligence, et al., that Bin Laden died YEARS AGO; and the myth of his survival until Obama had him assassinated was only fodder skeleton in the closet to be exploited when convenient for propaganda purposes. 

Pakistan has allies that the US is not prepared to commit warfare against, particularly since we're already bogged down spread from Africa across Asia Minor. In the 1950s when China decided to back N.Korea BY PARTICIPATING THEMSELVES with hordes of warriors, they did not have their industrial development. They do, today. And holding worthless investments in the US Dollar is no incentive for "peace" or tolerance with aggressive US military warfare threatening China's existing presence and/or domination of any region in the world.

We supposedly simply want Pakistani cooperation. Policy? American politicians who willfully and stupidly start "compassionate wars for peace" can't FORCE Pakistan to play the totally subservient dhimmi to the US without inflicting blows upon America that the media will either fail to acknowledge or else play apologists for "good intentions with unintended consequences".

55 I thought that the latest information on those "vomitoriums" was found to be a myth.

56

One of my favorite classes in high school was world history, which actually turned out to be Western Civ. The teacher (also the school's Latin teacher basically told us on the first day that nothing worth noting happened in Asia or Africa so she wasn't going to spend any time on them. She'd probably be fired today.

57 53 48 Jean. Vomitoriums were part of history. Speaking of vomitoriums, has anyone seen the movie The Human Centipede? Vomitoriums may make a comeback.   I haven't seen The Human Centipede, but I have seen online reviews of it and merely glancing at the brief scenes where the centipede "segements" were forced to eat each other's excremenet was vomit-inducing enough.   Btw, there's a Human Centipede 2.   The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence)

58

Don't worry about the sunscreen as you'll have more important things to worry about.

Posted by: harleycowboy

From the article above:

"The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to scientists who have published recent papers on the topic."

...said the temple priests, at the temple of Gaia.

The warmists are in no danger of losing their religion, it seems.

59

Posted by: todler at June 15, 2011 08:30 AM (fPOY0) '

Where you see the really story innovation is in video games.  I'd rather watch the cinematic segments from God of War or even Final Fantasy than a Hollyweird movie. 

60 I think I'll skip that Human Centipede thing...

61

"The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to scientists who have published recent papers on the topic."

So people are more now powerful than the sun. Riiiiight.

62 Interesting comments about teaching history in schools.

Our 7th grade son just finished studying the crusades, and had to write about the history and influence of Islam.
For some reason, our son decided to focus his writing on how non-Muslims lived under Islamic rule.

The teachers one response, and there were several, was "I actually had to look up Dhimmi  and the tax structure to grade his paper properly"

I believe it was graded as an "A".

So yesterday, they were apparently studying Nazi Germany, and the Jews.

Now the teacher wants to know why our son can discuss "The Final Solution" in such detail.

Military Brats pick up so much knowledge in their formative years.

63 This State beats all I have ever seen.

the ******* of the ussa for sure

64

So people are more now powerful than the sun. Riiiiight.

Seeing as how the sun revolves around the earth, that'd be a fair assessment.

65

So people are more now powerful than the sun. Riiiiight.

What disproves that thesis is that the global temperature was flat from 2000-2008, even as greenhouse gases increased dramatically during this period. 

66 A South Park episode refered to that movie. There are some sick minds to come up with that crap. Maybe Weiner can have a future besides politics.

67 This charming email from a Palin critic came out of the document dump that drove the MFM into a frenzy last week.

Link: http://www.sondrakistan.com/?p=6355

"You need to be shot from one of the planes that shoot th (sic) the very wolves that you ordered. You (f-word) whore ... I want to look into the eyes of a phony (c-word) witha (sic) whore of a daughter and votes to overturn roe vers wade, you worthless piece of flesh...want go hunting for wolves still? let's make you run in your heels, you (f-word) ugly pig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

I just want to know whether that was written by George Will or Kathleen Parker.

68

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 15, 2011 08:35 AM (JxMoP)

Sorry, I know you were being sarcastic, but it brings a smile to my face that while the writers push the "climate change" angle within the story, they disprove their own thesis by the words of the very experts they quote. 

69

What disproves that thesis is that the global temperature was flat from 2000-2008, even as greenhouse gases increased dramatically during this period. 

Well, well- looks like someone's check from the Big Oil propaganda ministry just arrived.

Gaia is weeping, unbeliever.

70 So....the other day our son was preparing for a Boy Scout camping trip.
He needed to buy some small items to take with him.
And the conversation went this way.

Lil' VIA:  Dad, can you buy me this stuff.

VIA: Son, you have been cutting grass, and earning money. Why don't you spend your own money for things you want?

Lil' VIA: But dad, you have  lot more money than I have.

VIA: So, even though it's something you want, and you have the money to buy it, you want me to pay for it because I have more money than you do? What group of people always want someone else to pay for things that they want?

Lil' VIA:  Liberals

71

Well, well- looks like someone's check from the Big Oil propaganda ministry just arrived.

That just cracked me up...

72

Well, well- looks like someone's check from the Big Oil propaganda ministry just arrived.

I can get an extra pudding cup at lunch today, hooray!

Gaia is weeping, unbeliever.

Gaia is dead, and rightfully so - she was a treacherous bitch!  I stabbed that tyrant through the heart with the Blade of Olympus. 

73 Lil' VIA:  Liberals

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 15, 2011 08:43 AM (4gDCQ)

That brought a tear to my eye....

74 I really don't give a crap if the FDA wants to regulate labeling of sunscreen.  Nobody's forcing you to buy it.. or wear it.

Me?  I don't stay out in the sun for too long.  Problem solved.

But for people that use the stuff, I see no problem is knowing what is effective or not.  Turns out the current labeling is all bullshit.  Who knew?

Just like I like the labeling of food products showing all the crap they put in there... not a bad thing.

75

Sorry, I know you were being sarcastic, but it brings a smile to my face that while the writers push the "climate change" angle within the story, they disprove their own thesis by the words of the very experts they quote. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 15, 2011 08:39 AM (9hSKh)

I am always fascinated by the ability of the liberal mind to accept that two mutually contradictory statements can both be true. For example, GWB = retarded genius. "Reality" based community, indeed.

76 You said it, bro.

77
NYSE to take the big Purple Veined Boner on the opening!

Liberals rejoice at the misfortune of silly capitalists.

Liberals demand additional transfer payments.

78 Gah, I can't even sockpuppet correctly without my coffee.  I meant to quote #39.

79 I am always fascinated by the ability of the liberal mind to accept that two mutually contradictory statements can both be true. For example, GWB = retarded genius. "Reality" based community, indeed.

Much like wanting to create 10,000 engineers a month and decrying automation.  Or supporting late-term abortion but thinking waterboarding is barbarism.

It's like liberals have different glasses, and when they put those glasses on they have tunnel vision so they can't take into account everything.

80 Posted by: Mama AJ at June 15, 2011 08:21 AM (XdlcF)

I guess ewoks don't have good manual dexterity, what with the the whole paw thing.

81   People give me funny looks when I talk about moving to a poor Caribbean country

I have neighbors who are packing up as we speak for a move to Costa Rica. He made out pretty well off some patents, and is living off residuals and investments. He'll be taking all that potential tax revenue with them.

...and he said they are buying a place in Puerto Limon just so I have a place to go diving

^{For some reason, I don't think that's the whole reason though}

82

The administration probably wants those engineers to figure out a way to automate abortion without having to deal with odious state laws. 

And as far as encouraging scientific/engineering exploits, at least Stalin pushed for heavy industry and power production.  And he had better artists and slogans working for him.     

83 We learned about the pilgrims in kindergarten when we made turkeys from our hand tracings for Thanksgiving. The official songs of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines were sung in 4th grade. Minnesota public schools in the 60s.

Same in Maryland and the Western States during the '60s.  Each grade level had music song books that we could read (treble clef). We sang an entire repertoire of American folk, patriotic and popular songs from the Revolution through the early 20th Century from every region's former frontier. In 4th grade we felt like we'd finally become "big kids" singing the anthems of our Military and the most memorable marching songs from previous American wars. During recess, it was normal for the boys to re-enact "battles" our dads, grandfathers and frontiersmen had fought.

In Civics class (NOT social studies) it didn't take forever for students to learn our American history, to know our Founding Fathers by name and reputation, of our Constitution and our Rights, and our form of government. We drew the three branches of government diagram in 5th and 6th grade when we learned to spell and use those big words like executive, judicial, legislative. /flashback, since the Nuremburg Trials/executions were still recent history and our American political assassinations had just occurred, losing the Kennedy brothers and MLKjr, I really did not like the subliminal associations between "execute" and "executive". 

84

Gaia is dead, and rightfully so - she was a treacherous bitch!  I stabbed that tyrant through the heart with the Blade of Olympus. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 15, 2011 08:47 AM (9hSKh)

Nah, that's just hubris. In reality, Gaia is like Honey Badger; Gaia don't give a shit (about us at least).

That may be the worst thing to realize as a tree-hugging idiot; that the earth (ignoring the stupidity of anthropomorphizing a planet) doesn't give a rat's ass about us, and doesn't even know we exist. Sort of like the mouse humping the elephant's leg and whispering, "I'll be gentle."

85 Did you guys see this DNC ad yesterday? 

It is so misleading that Jake Trapper calls them out on it:

the video, which Messina calls a “highlight reel” and the DNC titled “What in the world are they talking about?” selectively uses clips from the 2-hour forum suggesting that the candidates were focused on idiotic issues, or battles from the past, when all of the topics the video hammers the Republicans for talking about were ones they were asked about at the forum.

86 Now the FDA have decided that there is an overwhelming need to regulate the labels on sunscreen. Whole new books of regulations about how the PF is done, what can be posted, and what you even call sunscreen on the label. Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6) The FDA has been regulating sunscreen for years. The new regs are just another tweak as they do every so often. Any cosmetic or skin care item that makes medical -type claims (including protect, repair, etc) is considered a drug by the FDA. Since your life or the life of your kid can depend on the effectiveness of sunscreen (skin cancer kills), I don't theoretically really have a problem with it being regulated. But they are horribly inconsistent and negligent at following up on complaints and virtually ineffective at anything but passing regulations and handing out fines. They oversee my industry with a heavy regulatory hand- fuck them.

87 I have an article from IBD, which is not a very reliable site imo, that does contain this easily provable (or not) reference to a House bill:
 
Others like it, too, which is why a bill floating through Congress, the New Alternative Transportation to Give Americans Solutions Act of 2011 (HR 1380), or Nat Gas Act, has seen a number of Republicans joining central-planning Democrats in supporting it.

But HR 1380, sponsored at last count by 105 Democrats and 83 Republicans, is another government intervention in the free market. Instead of getting government out of the way of innovators, it would give a tax credit for up to 80% of the purchase cost of a natural gas vehicle — with a cap dependent on the car's weight, $8,000 for passenger cars and up to $64,000 for heavy trucks — to get more gas-powered vehicles on the road.
 
The title of the article is A Bill to Make Soros Richer. Take it with a grain or lump of salt.

88 Bankruptcy Court Declares Defense of Marriage Act Unconstitutional

89

The U.K. continues its decline into failure

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:17 AM (M9Ie6)

This.  is.  bullshit.

Completely flabbergasted.  Britain's done for.

90

Much like wanting to create 10,000 engineers a month and decrying automation. 

Oh geez- completely missed that one. Very, very good catch.

91

Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

This guy sends them to the entire office everytime he finds some online piece about how we're all going to melt.  To me, that's unprofessional in the extreme.

I've refrained from sending pieces outlining the case against AGW, because frankly, this is a reliogion with these people and there's no point arguing it.

Any ideas?

92 Debbie Whatshername stars in the new RNC web ad:

http://tinyurl.com/3pk2y92

93 Nah, that's just hubris. In reality, Gaia is like Honey Badger; Gaia don't give a shit (about us at least).

I take it you've never played God of War.

94 Issa holding hearing today on Operation Fast & Furious

95

Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.

Is that a quote from Peanuts?  It sounds like something Charlie Brown would say.

96 Vic,

That article about the sex crimes registry in England is interesting, but the idea of a registry, complete with visits from law enforcement, is troubling.

People should be punished for their crimes, but an open-ended sentence, which is what a sex crimes registry is, smacks of totalitarianism.

97

Well now you can add history to their lack of knowledge.

But IÂ’ll bet they are experts at diversity in 18^th century colonial America and tell you the exploits and inventions of the oppressed womyn of Boston.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)

This is nothing new. About 10 years ago I was working for a large bank and talking with co-workers (who were all college graduates and all voted for Al Gore) some didn't know who we won our independence from, the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, when the moon landing was etc. After a while one of the geniuses told me, well if we don't know then it must not be that important. And thus you see the deeply ingrained stupidity of Democrat voters

98 I think Britain may have their revolution before we do.  Instead of Royalists vs Roundheads or the Rockers vs the Mods, it'll be the Norms vs the Pointyheads.

99

Nah, that's just hubris. In reality, Gaia is like Honey Badger; Gaia don't give a shit (about us at least).

That comment was with GoW canon in mind, but you are right, as usual. 

George Carlin had a great rant about human conceit that we're a threat to the Earth.

/NSFW - Carlin had some good comedic bits before he got old and bitter.

100  #68 ...ugly pig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
"I just want to know whether that was written by George Will or Kathleen Parker."

Rove.

101 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

Bombard him with 'Lose your belly fat' ad e-mails.

102

Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

Oh, maybe invite him to a combination monster truck rally/tractor pull/giant earth dug barbeque/fluorescent lighting tube smashing party?

Won't change his mind, but he might take you off his distribution list.

103

Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

This guy sends them to the entire office everytime he finds some online piece about how we're all going to melt.  To me, that's unprofessional in the extreme.

I've refrained from sending pieces outlining the case against AGW, because frankly, this is a reliogion with these people and there's no point arguing it.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 15, 2011 09:15 AM (sbV1u)

I don't think there is a polite way to ask them to stop, sir.  In my experience, AGW devotees are more rabid than any evangelist (myself included!)  They will become angry at your disinterest.

You'll need to brace for the holy fury, or grin and bear it.  I'd recommend just deleting them and smiling politely, to avoid workplace drama.

104

Bombard him with 'Lose your belly fat' ad e-mails.

Thanks, I just spewed this morning's coffee all over the carpet.  I'm sure the cleaning crew will be pleased.

Hilarious, Tami.

105 Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 15, 2011 09:15 AM (sbV1u)

Sure. Complain to HR about his politicizing the workplace. Point out that you feel threatened, and then mention that it isn't really part of what most would consider productive work to proselytize for the tree-huggers.

Or just punch him in the teeth. Either one will work.

106 Damn.  I'd hate living in Big Brother Chicago:

ChicagoÂ’s Big Brother network of over 10,000 public and private surveillance cameras is already the most extensive and integrated in the nation. But, itÂ’s about to get even bigger.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel chaired his first Public Building Commission meeting on Tuesday and joined his fellow members in adding three potential terrorist targets to the cityÂ’s surveillance network: the Board of Trade, the Federal Reserve and the AT&T switching center.

All three are located in ChicagoÂ’s financial nerve center. But, they apparently constituted gaping holes in ChicagoÂ’s camera network.

107

Or just punch him in the teeth. Either one will work.

Well, that's not "polite" but I've been leaning that way for a while. 

108 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 15, 2011 09:18 AM (9hSKh)

That was great! That belongs in the sidebar.

109 #92 "Please stop sending me religious e-mails."

110

Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

Have lots of children, feed them all beans and broccoli, and bring them to work on Take Our Daughter to Work Day. 

During one particularly costly Girl Scout season, one of the sergeants sent her daughter to my office--naturally, I obliged and purchased a year's supply of Thin Mints.  She returned the favor by emitting the silent mother of all wallhangers.  I'm sure her Mom put her up to it.   

111 People should be punished for their crimes, but an open-ended sentence, which is what a sex crimes registry is, smacks of totalitarianism.

Not really since they get their "day in court". Sex crimes have an almost 100% record of recidivism (sp?). They should be tracked, especially if their crimes involved minors.

112 What's unrequited love?

113

Any ideas?

Posted by: Sean Bannion

Either leave an anonymous note by the water fountain, whistle blow an anonymous complaint with Personnel, or reply in kind with links to Lord Monkton's well researched public awareness efforts. At some point, someone else will get the hint that unwanted to forward non-business matter email at work is unnecessary or "inappropriate".

114

That article about the sex crimes registry in England is interesting, but the idea of a registry, complete with visits from law enforcement, is troubling.
People should be punished for their crimes, but an open-ended sentence, which is what a sex crimes registry is, smacks of totalitarianism.

The concept has certainly been abused. For example, the 19 year old guy who has sex with the underage GF, the parents get mad, and the guy ends up as a registered sex offender. That's dumb and people should not be placed on registries for that. I might be convinced that a person with a single charge could be allowed to be removed from a registry after a certain number of years. But child molesters and those with multiple rapes need to be monitored because they will do it again.

Or we could rightly consider them to be dangers to society and just lock them up forever (my preference). Then there would be no need for a permanent registry because they'd never get out of custody.

115

Sean Bannion

I'd suggest sending him a link to WUWT. one click and he'll figure it out. THEN you've got him for harrasment. and a nice payoff if he doesn't stop.

116 Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 09:25 AM (M9Ie6)

Then keep them in jail until they die. But a sex crimes registry, administered by bureaucrats makes our court system a mockery.

Well, the judges help. And the legislature too.

Never mind.

117 I know this happens with every Admin., but 80%?!

Obama Creates Slew of Jobs ... For His Top Donors More than two years after Obama took office vowing to banish “special interests” from his administration, nearly 200 of his biggest donors have landed plum government jobs and advisory posts, won federal contracts worth millions of dollars for their business interests or attended numerous elite White House meetings and social events, an investigation by iWatch News has found.

These “bundlers” raised at least $50,000 — and sometimes more than $500,000 — in campaign donations for Obama’s campaign. Many of those in the “Class of 2008” are now being asked to bundle contributions for Obama’s reelection, an effort that could cost $1 billion.

As a candidate, Obama spoke passionately about diminishing the clout of moneyed interests. Kicking off his presidential run on Feb. 10, 2007, he blasted “the cynics, the lobbyists, the special interests,” who had “turned our government into a game only they can afford to play.”

“We’re here today to take it back,” he said.
...
Overall, 184 of 556, or about one-third of Obama bundlers or their spouses joined the administration in some role. But the percentages are much higher for the big-dollar bundlers. Nearly 80 percent of those who collected more than $500,000 for Obama took “key administration posts,” as defined by the White House. More than half the 24 ambassador nominees who were bundlers raised $500,000.

118 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

You might try what I did with a co-worker who kept forwarding those damn chain e-mails, which was to politely point out I had to concentrate on e-mails related to my work and found I didn't have time to spend on non-work related messages. And in case that was too subtle I asked for her help on a project I knew she didn't want to work on.

119

"The temperature change associated with any reduction in sunspot activity would likely be minimal and may not be enough to offset the impact of greenhouse gases on global warming, according to scientists who have published recent papers on the topic."

So people are more now powerful than the sun. Riiiiight.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 15, 2011 08:35 AM

Sure, the "EXPERTS" know that they can't tax, regulate, and micromanage the sun.

That's why solar activity has no effect while leaving the bathroom light on will melt the glaciers and flood Algore's beach mansion in Santa Barbara

120

Posted by: todler at June 15, 2011 09:29 AM (fPOY0)

Thanks, I like that. 

121 If you rape a minor, you should be held in solitary confinement the rest of your fucking life, because that is the sentence you ordered/forced upon the child.

122 Steyn made me chuckle. 

123
Not really since they get their "day in court". Sex crimes have an almost 100% record of recidivism (sp?). They should be tracked, especially if their crimes involved minors.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 09:25 AM (M9Ie6)

I concur.

Since I was small, I have liked the same thing in the opposite sex: red hair, curvy figure, blue or green eyes.  That has not changed throughout my life.

I have only ever known one person who abruptly changed their sexuality, a homosexual who decided, firmly, that he would be one no longer, and even that is not simply a cut-and-dried matter for the guy.  He works hard at it, consciously, daily.

When it comes to rapists, especially child rapists, there is no trust.  Unless their will surpasses the rest of us - and we know that it does not, seeing as how they're violent offenders in the first place - they will attack again.  Their sexuality does not change, their preferences do not change.  There can be no trust, and they must be watched carefully.

Or shot.

One of the two.

124 Any ideas? Wait till he leaves his office with his computer on, figure out a reason to go to his office like you had to bring him some paperwork. Bring up some gay porn, run out of his office making a scene about how disgusted you are. Show a co-worker. Start a rumor, destroy his life like he is trying to destroy ours. When doing battle with monsters, sometimes it is good to be a monster.

125 123 If you rape a minor, you should be held in solitary confinement the rest of your fucking life, because that is the sentence you ordered/forced upon the child.

Posted by: momma at June 15, 2011 09:32 AM (nWikJ)

I endorse this option.

Or, alternatively, the aforementioned firing squad.

126 120 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

"Enough with the bullshit."

That should do it.

127 People should be punished for their crimes, but an open-ended sentence, which is what a sex crimes registry is, smacks of totalitarianism.

The concept has certainly been abused.

---

I agree. 

128 Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 15, 2011


Tell him your religion is the exact opposite of Climate Change.  Tell them your faith requires you to believe God/not man controls the weather.

He can't even mention climate change to you again without 'disrespecting your religion' which is grounds for firing.

129

ChicagoÂ’s Big Brother network of over 10,000 public and private surveillance cameras is already the most extensive and integrated in the nation. But, itÂ’s about to get even bigger.

Mayor Rahm Emanuel chaired his first Public Building Commission meeting on Tuesday and joined his fellow members in adding three potential terrorist targets to the cityÂ’s surveillance network: the Board of Trade, the Federal Reserve and the AT&T switching center.

Posted by: momma at June 15, 2011 09:21 AM

Funny how Chicago's spycam network can't seem to spot teenage thugs attacking and robbing downtown shoppers

130 Posted by: momma at June 15, 2011 09:32 AM (nWikJ)

What about the example cited above? The 18-year-old boyfriend having sex with the 17-year-old girlfriend. Daddy gets mad, calls the cops, and boyfriend goes to jail for life?

Registries are administered capriciously. The concept is anathema to a free society.

Set the penalties so that the public is protected from sexual predators.

131 Posted by: kbdabear at June 15, 2011 09:35 AM (so1xa)

What Chicago really needs is cameras watching ever fucking move their corrupt politicians make.  That would cut the crime rate down.

132

From the "NO SHIT SHERLOCK" file:

The Consumer Price Index, the government's key inflation measure, rose 3.6% over the past 12 months. That compares to a 3.2% rise in April when gas prices were still climbing rapidly.

Gas prices fell 2% in May but are still up 36% over the past year. Food prices jumped 3.5% compared to a year ago.

But the so-called core CPI, which strips out volatile food and energy prices, rose just 1.5% over the past 12 months. Still, that's the biggest increase for core CPI since January 2010. Core CPI rose 1.3% year-over-year in April.

who would have guessed that inflation is taking off? none of us morons. the public certainly doesn't notice things like that.

Fucking morons.

oh, and the DOW is off 96 pts.

133 Set the penalties so that the public is protected from sexual predators.

^This. 

134 When doing battle with monsters, sometimes it is good to be a monster.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 15, 2011 09:33 AM (NtTkA)

That's not really sporting. Funny as hell, but perhaps a bit over the top.

135 oh, and the DOW is off 96 pts.

-108 now.  It's a power dive.

136 F****ing doctor has me on meds that don't do anything except put me in a perpetual fog.

Got my blood work done today. Couldn't do it yesterday 'cause they couldn't find me in the system (I've been there before) and the only person who could add records into the database was out sick. This shit happens to me all of the time.

I'm applying for a legal name change -- to Joe Btfsplk.

137

Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

This guy sends them to the entire office everytime he finds some online piece about how we're all going to melt.  To me, that's unprofessional in the extreme.

I've refrained from sending pieces outlining the case against AGW, because frankly, this is a reliogion with these people and there's no point arguing it.

Any ideas?

Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 15, 2011 09:15 AM


1st time, simply request that the emails cease simply due to non business nature. Do not enter into the politics of it

2nd time, request that the emails cease, CC to your manager, his/her manager, and IT director.

3rd time, CC to all the above and HR

138 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

Send a "reply to all" email saying something like "Slow day?"  or "Having a stay-cation right here in the office?".  Later you can say "oops" about the reply to all thing.

139 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 15, 2011 09:36 AM (0Z5GH)

No.  But, I don't see that as rape either.  You can be a senior in high school and be 19.

If a emotional relationship can be establish (proved) and the minor is 16 +, and the 'offender' is 19 or younger, and both parties say it wasn't force-able sex, then there shouldn't even be a case.

I'm talking under 15,  force-able sex, lives ruined, etc.

140

One of my favorite classes in high school was world history, which actually turned out to be Western Civ. The teacher (also the school's Latin teacher basically told us on the first day that nothing worth noting happened in Asia or Africa so she wasn't going to spend any time on them. She'd probably be fired today.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater

Nothing wrong with teaching her own specialty, Western Civilization, a major impact on global civilizations given colonialism. She didn't prohibit independent study.

That a teacher honestly expressed her own bias put it out front so students could see it and go figure on their own. It isn't as if students always agree with their teacher's biases.

"Nothing worth noting" in Asia and Africa, by ignoring what Western Civilization did upon introduction to Asia and Africa, is its own confession. No sense beating a dead horse, whether the feudal class system of castes or slavery, so long as the horse is dead. And applying the guilt trip on Western Civilization is historically inaccurate given that racism, tribalism, slavery and castes in Asia and Africa pre-date European colonialism. The West did not "teach" Africans slavery. The West did not "teach" Asia castes and racism. The West did not invent vice and human exploitation, though the West certainly marketed it best. At least the West banned overtly marketing slavery. Can either Africa or Asia claim that they no longer trade in slavery, that they no longer base warfare on tribalism?

141 132, It's a sticky wicket isn't it. Lawrence Taylor is on a sex registry and Woody Allen isn't? While a young sailor I enjoyed the company of many young professionals while in a far away land. Were they all over 18? I'm not sure, I would have to say probably not. I agree with CBD. There is a difference between young irresponsible love, and a sexual predator.

142 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails?

Are they sending them to everyone in the office?  the Owner/Managers?

I had a problem like that for years and finally told the person "do not send me anymore of your "lectures" and all hell broke lose.  I wound up looking like the bad guy.  They were so offended you would have thought I had poured hot coffer over their head.  Most in the office, being like minded, sided with her.

143 Maybe I'll change my nome de Ace to Joe Btfsplk.

144 @138 F****ing doctor has me on meds that don't do anything except put me in a perpetual fog.

Try to look on the bright side.  The DOOM won't seem so bad while you're on those meds.


Take care, Ed. 

145 When doing battle with monsters, sometimes it is good to be a monster.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 15, 2011 09:33 AM (NtTkA)

That's not really sporting. Funny as hell, but perhaps a bit over the top.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)

Could always have a subscription to various gay porn magazines and videos for the person and make sure they deliver it to his work addy.

146 Anyone got a nice, polite way to tell a co-worker that I don't appreciate his global warming doom emails? Yes, I do. Give me his email address and I'll take care of it.

147 Sen. DeMint To Laura Ingraham: President Obama ‘Believes Americans Are Stupid’The Senator came right out and told Ingraham he believes debt ceiling negotiations are only working to “kill time” in order to create a debt crisis in August. “We’ve fallen, ” he said, “for this Obama trick to negotiate in secret with this Biden group which is only to kill time until we create a crisis on August 1st.”

148 Yes, I do. Give me his email address and I'll take care of it.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff

ONLY as long as you post your emails here at the HQ. I want to see th eepic beat down you administer.

149 The FDA investigating claims by sunscreen manufacturers does not scream over reach to me, Vic. However, the same agency's ridiculous treatment of avastin for breast cancer patients, now there is a totally outrageous mess. It was declined approval, then accepted, then redeclined, and now up in the air again, while doctors, patients and insurance companies are left to sort things out on an already pricy treatment.

150

The Dragon and the Persian Leopard continue to plot against the status quo.  Perhaps they are seizing their "chance"?

Iran FM hails strategic ties with China

151 Setting aside the appropriateness of sex crime registry for a minute, I'm curious how they are used.   Do people here check them when they go to rent  or buy a home? when their child has a new soccer coach? when they have a new neighbor?  How are they used? 

It seems to me a standard background check would be able to pull up skeletons of that sort so that employers or organizations would not hire someone with that background to work with children.  What is the purpose of me knowing where a sex offender lives? 

152

Registries are administered capriciously. The concept is anathema to a free society.

Set the penalties so that the public is protected from sexual predators.

This all stems from the concept of criminal rehabilitation. The registry concept is a reaction to a faulty premise, that being that rapists and child molesters can be rehabilitated. It's just not possible because there's something wrong inside their heads. The proper policy would be to accept that some people are just broken, they can't be fixed, and therefore they need to be removed from society so that they can't harm others.

153

But the so-called core CPI, which strips out volatile food and energy prices, rose just 1.5% over the past 12 months. Still, that's the biggest increase for core CPI since January 2010. Core CPI rose 1.3% year-over-year in April.

who would have guessed that inflation is taking off? none of us morons. the public certainly doesn't notice things like that.

Posted by: todler at June 15, 2011 09:37 AM (fPOY0)

 

The question remains in why the fuel and food price increases took place.  The word "inflation" always implies that monetary policy is causative.  That is not the case here, or at least not entirely.  Oil demand is up, and supply is down.  Food demand is up world wide, and we had the Russian and Australian wheat crops largely destroyed last year.  Some portion may of the food price increases may also be related to the diversion of resources to ethanol. 

We have prices going up - but we must be careful in finding the real causes so that our policy prescriptions are correct.  Drive up the supply of energy and food, and suddenly what we're calling inflation will be nearly zero. 

154 For example, the 19 year old guy who has sex with the underage GF, the parents get mad, and the guy ends up as a registered sex offender.

That is a problem with the way the laws in some States are written. The laws here were revised a few years ago to eliminate those kinds of abuses and tighten up on other issues.

But the bottom line is this. True sex offenders are always repeat offenders. And those that prey on children are the most heinous of the heinous.

Personally I apply the 100 year rule (which may need extending now to 150 years now). What did they do back in days of yore? If someone raped a child and was caught by the townspeople he never made it to court. If he did make it to court he would never see the light of day again.

There was no "registry" because there was no need for one.

155 Ghost of Lee Atwater at June 15, 2011 09:49 AM

/One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

156 Posted by: Ed Anger at June 15, 2011 09:41 AM (7+pP9)

I'm sorry about your meds.  that truly must be a horrible feeling, especially for someone who likes to be in control.  I'm sure you've done all the stuff to bring your blood pressure down naturally.  Like forcing yourself to think before you start to get upset and telling yourself to calm down.  And I'm assuming you are taking a nice walk with your significant other everyday and drinking 8 glasses of water.

157 According to the movie, The Flock, the registries are used by sex offenders to find each other and schedule social activities together.

Ick. 

I thought Facebook Twitter was for that. 

158 The parsing of words concerning the sexual assault of a child is something I find disturbing. I have a partial simplification of this problem. You stick your dick, or digit into a prepubescent child, you need to die. Everything else becomes a bit more murky. Commen sense should prevail. Oh Wait.........

159 Momma, Rape of a child used to be a capital crime in Louisiana until it was ruled unconstitutional in Kennedy v. Louisiana. The plaintiff committed a brutal rape of his 8 year-old stepdaughter which required emergency surgery to repair her intestines and cervix. The U.S. Supreme court ruled 5-4 that capital punishment for raping a child was unconstitutional because there was no "national consensus" that it was an appropriate punishment. Who wrote the opinion for the majority? Anthony. Fucking. Kennedy.

160

We have prices going up - but we must be careful in finding the real causes so that our policy prescriptions are correct.  Drive up the supply of energy and food, and suddenly what we're calling inflation will be nearly zero. 

Posted by: Reactionary

True. and it's responses like that why I like this smart military blog. I lean new things every day. Sometimes useful things too.

IF the govt fixed it's rectal-cranial inversion and got out of the way, we'd reduce inflation, lower unemployment, and make people happier.

but then that's a feature, not a bug, of the current administration.

161
Posted by: curious at June 15, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

Now I know why all the morons love you so much.

I'm going fishing, catch y'all later.

162 Perry/Bachman!

163 I saw an article that said AF1 had become a "campaign bus" and yet they are still talking about this.

164 Posted by: Ed Anger at June 15, 2011 09:41 AM (7+pP9)

I'm sorry about your meds.  that truly must be a horrible feeling, especially for someone who likes to be in control.  I'm sure you've done all the stuff to bring your blood pressure down naturally.  Like forcing yourself to think before you start to get upset and telling yourself to calm down.  And I'm assuming you are taking a nice walk with your significant other everyday and drinking 8 glasses of water.
Posted by: curious at June 15, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

And be very careful about what links you click on.

165 ynot....we use a service to run background checks on our employees....their standard check is only for within state....so if crimes were committed out of state they don't show up......we pay extra to get the nationwide check.....every couple of months i go on the sex offender website to see where the sickos are around me.....the purpose of you knowing where they are and who they are is important for your safety and for the saftey of your family....

166 Posted by: Ed Anger at June 15, 2011 09:41 AM

The Rx meds seriously f*cked over my high pressured better half, taking him to emergency heart hospital care. Along with the dietary care, a tablespoon of Lecithin granules before lunch brought his blood pressure down to normal without pharmaceutical drugs. He got that tip from his diabetic, high blood pressured dad.

Best wishes for your good health.

167 Big Government to Twitter interview Paul Ryan at 11 (Eastern, I assume). 

168

I'm not sure this is the same as the e-mail thing at work, but something similar.

We just get brow-beaten to give to the United Way at work. I don't. But what they really get on you is to fill out a card saying that you are not giving. I have refused for years to fill out that card. My explanation to them is that if  I don't want to give to a Charity, then it's my business and I don't have any obligation to fill out paperwork to state that.

But man, they really, really come down on me about this. And I'm talking about the real high ups.

At this point, to me, it's become a matter of principle, and I'm not giving in. But I know I'm about to get a lot of heat in the next week or so.

169 Perry/West

170 HH at June 15, 2011 10:01 AM

Tell them you donate to the Salvation Army "doing the most good".

171 We just get brow-beaten to give to the United Way at work.

I have worked at places where if you don't contribute, you are going to get fired eventually.  When the company decides that be a Fair Share giving company is good PR, anyone who doesn't help isn't considered a company man, and your days are numbered.

172 /One flew over the cuckoo's nest.

Posted by: maverick muse at June 15, 2011 09:51 AM (lpWVn)

I'm not talking about putting them in a hospital or trying to find out what makes them tick. Send them to prison for the rest of their lives.

173 #168 You all remember the electoral disaster the last time we picked a conservative-moderate ticket in a presidential race, right? We won election with 44 states and reelection with 49. Not going to happen again to that extreme, but we could easily expect to win 300 elecotral votes or more with Perry-Giuliani, Bachmann-Pawlenty, etc. Of course I still think Bachmann-Martinez, Romney-Martinez, or Perry-Martinez are also solid paths.

174 The way United Way worked at the defunct McClellan AFB is that everybody gave so the departing Base Commander got a $100k/yr job in retirement working for United Way.

175 Any Indiana morons or ettes care to tell me if I should kick in a little $ to Mourdock's primary campaign against Lugar? I'll probably pass just based on not liking to get on mailing lists for out of state politicians but I would enjoy symbolically slapping the senate RINOs right now. Maybe I can find a PAC that supports Mourdock?

176 every couple of months i go on the sex offender website to see where the sickos are around me.....the purpose of you knowing where they are and who they are is important for your safety and for the saftey of your family.... Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 15, 2011 10:00 AM

---

Thanks for answering. 

To me, the best way to protect your family is to know your neighbors and your kids' friends.  Having the home addresses of people in the registry, which I think we all agree lumps very dissimilar people together, doesn't really protect kids from people they encounter day to day. 

I freely admit, I think it's very 19th Century (and wrong) to label people in perpetuity after they've completed their incarceration and probation (aside from government records that can be accessed by background checks).  The appropriate thing to do is to construct their sentences so that they include treatment, for the handful of people who are able to be fixed, and continued incarceration for the ones who are not.  I'd also consider voluntary castration if there's enough evidence out there to suggest that that would actually be effective.  (I don't know if folks who go that route wind up getting their jollies by other sick methods.) 

177 HH - that is so they can brag that 100% of the employees particiapte - they get some kind of award for that.  If you like your job, give the smallest amount allowed and tell yourself it is for a good cause.  I know it is like blackmail, but life is not perfect.

178 We just get brow-beaten to give to the United Way at work.

My hubby and I have both worked in higher ed philanthropy.  We hate the United Way and their strong arm tactics. 

I'd keep doing what you're doing and "forget" to fill out those cards. 

179 lan, the anwer to that is to give a penny or a dollar if it must be a big denonination. That way the admin costs don't make it worth while and you get to screw the employer forcing you to play against your will.

180 @184   But United Way is not for a good cause.  They bundle all sorts of things together, including planned parenthood type stuff iirc.  Look at the list in your area and see what they say they support.

181 civics lesson: Bachmann/Pawlenty cant happen. The VP candidate can't be from the same state as the presidential nominee. My dream team that has no chance would be Cain/Rice. Most of the good conservatives this year are a bit weak on foreign policy and could beef up their cred by picking Dr. Rice, but I don't think she'd want to accept.

182 @188
Yeah, I believe Huntsman is solidly pro-life. 

But the other factor is that he's a weasel.  Everyone I've spoken to here in Utah, including people who worked on his gubernatorial campaigns, say he is an untrustworthy opportunist.  I'd consider voting for Huckabee (yeah, yeah, he's not in) before I'd vote for Huntsman. 

183 190 civics lesson: Bachmann/Pawlenty cant happen. The VP candidate can't be from the same state as the presidential nominee.

I think they can, it's just that you lose that state's electoral votes. 

184 Thousands of sex offenders, including rapists and paedophiles, will be able to apply to be removed from the sex crimes register under human rights laws, the Government has announced.

--*COUGH* Muslims with arranged child brides *COUGH*

185

Posted by: lan sing at June 15, 2011 10:10 AM (YHrQZ)

I understand that. But the point is I won't contribute (I don't care for United Way as a charity), and I'll be damned if I have to fill out a card stating that I'm not going to donate.

186 Vic, That is way too much effort to be spending on Huntsman. That fucking zero won't make it past New Hampshire. And he's not going to Iowa.

187 But the other factor is that he's a weasel.  Everyone I've spoken to here in Utah, including people who worked on his gubernatorial campaigns, say he is an untrustworthy opportunist.  I'd consider voting for Huckabee (yeah, yeah, he's not in) before I'd vote for Huntsman.

Do you know anything about this Utah healthcare reform law?

188 That is way too much effort to be spending on Huntsman.

Well, I am trying to be fair. I know he has at least one supporter here at AOS.

189

hey, anyone notice the side-bar about the mini-ice age? the magical words Maunder Minimum are appearently mentioned. Hope everyone has enough wood on hand.

All we need now is a plague and "The Last Centurion" will be a predictive book, not fiction.

190 189 Y-Not - We all know there are much better places to donate to, but sometimes we have to choose our battles. 
Too bad employees have to put up "crap" that has nothing to do with the getting their job done.

191 53 48 Jean. Vomitoriums were part of history. Speaking of vomitoriums, has anyone seen the movie The Human Centipede? Vomitoriums may make a comeback.

Posted by: Case at June 15, 2011 08:27 AM (0K+Kw)

I make zee incision here, attach you together here...Using zee surgical staples, I attach zee feet to zee pedals, und mit der surgical screws I attach zee wheels... A human velocipede!!!!!

 

192 civics lesson: Bachmann/Pawlenty cant happen. The VP candidate can't be from the same state as the presidential nominee.

My understanding is that this is not necessarily true. I don't think it's been litigated, but the interpretation I've seen of the part of the 12th Amendment this falls under is that they CAN be from the same state, but are not eligible for the electoral votes from that state.

Since no GOP candidate, even Pawlenty, was expected to win MN, the issue becomes moot....and I don't find that ticket altogether distasteful. I'm not a Pawlenty fan, but others are so there are those votes, and he'd be pretty impotent as VP anyway.

193 Bachmann/Bolton is the ticket.

Like it!!

..or even vice versa

194 A previous employer was big on the whole United Way crap.  I dealt with it by giving only to certain specific charitable recipients which I trusted, which was an option at least at that time.

Both were organizations I'd had personal experiences with.  One, amusingly, I now actually work for.  Funny how that rolls.

195

But United Way is not for a good cause.  They bundle all sorts of things together, including planned parenthood type stuff iirc.  Look at the list in your area and see what they say they support.

In the past when I was forced to participate I always made it a point to designate my contribution to a group that I knew about. Usually this was the Boy Scouts, though I am not sure if United Way supports them any more because of BSA's continued prohibition of gay Scoutmasters.

196

Posted by: todler at June 15, 2011 10:21 AM (fPOY0)

Yeah, I've just read about that. Interesting that increased CO₂ levels haven't warmed us. So if the Sun starts sort of cooling, hmmm....

197 We used to be "brow beat" into contributing to the United Way, also another organization that did charity for paying poor people's energy bills, AND all category II (exempt) people were browbeat into contributing to the company PAC. It really used to piss me off.

They changed the way they did United Way so that you could designate local organizations that your contribution went to so then that one wasn't so bad.

The others continued to be the suckittude though.

198 203 A previous employer was big on the whole United Way crap.  I dealt with it by giving only to certain specific charitable recipients which I trusted, which was an option at least at that time.

Both were organizations I'd had personal experiences with.  One, amusingly, I now actually work for.  Funny how that rolls.

Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 15, 2011 10:27 AM (GBXon)

I had an employer like that once.  They'd have high-pressure office meetings to try to convince you to donate to United Way and stuff a pledge form in your hands before you could leave.  I was barely making enough at the time to cover my living expenses (which were pretty modest, believe me), so the form promptly went in the trash. 

199 Vic, Huntsman's one supporter here mysteriously only posted in that one map thread. Nobody has seen him since. It is OK to tear him a new ass.

200 Are 4th graders really supposed to know any history?  I remember that at the end of the 3rd grade, we could read, and write, and cipher but I don't remember history being taught at all.


The boy studied Texas history in Kindergarden. Granted, it was superficial, but it was still history. (He also learned about Venn diagrams - WTF?)

201 It is OK to tear him a new ass.

LOL, I do try to avoid starting flame wars. But I seem to recall him/her(?) posting in multiple threads. (Tatoo DePlane)

202 venn diagrams are big in kindergarden.......

203 when my youngest was in kindergarden, his teacher taught the class to do suduko's at 11 he still loves to do them and i got into them as well.....

204

Yeah, I've just read about that. Interesting that increased CO₂ levels haven't warmed us. So if the Sun starts sort of cooling, hmmm....

Posted by: HH

I'm preparing to scout locations south of me that will allow me to survive, and protect myself if it does what I'm expecting. I don't believe it will be good for much of the "West" simply because all the idiots in charge refuse to believe what they are seeing. And in the process they will manage to destroy much of what we've built.

Although 3rd world countries won't be much better off. Maybe I'll find a quiet island somewhere.

205 Polar bears have all died off where I am.  It's a shame.

206

I'm not against Charity at all. What I just don't get is the pressure from United Way on companies.

What's with that, and how come it happens?

207 Polar bears have all died off where I am.

Same here. Would you believe I have NEVER seen a polar bear in South Carolina!

208 TDP fell under his spell as well? Say it ain't so... So now huntsman has 2 supporters on here...momentum, I suppose. I think the consensus is that Huntsman has been downright Olympia Snowian, so attacking him won't cause much of a flame war. Hard to have one with just one person. I've shifted my support from pawlenty to either romney or bachmann. Bipolar likes, I know. But both impressed me during the debate. Bachmann's nuanced answer on states rights versus the fed regarding gay marriage really, really impressed me. Stuck to her convictions without conflict in her support of the states.her answer on abortion too impressed me tremendously because she finally called the mfm out on the tired "incest, rape, medical" line for being the very rare exception it already is. On that same note GingrichClassic apparently made an appearance to chastize king and others over the tired "either embrace the illegals or spend billions hunting them all down and shipping them out literally" choice. I really like that a lot of the candidates have finally grown tired of media narratives and are finally refusing to let the mfm set the boundaries.

209 Posted by: todler at June 15, 2011 10:21 AM (fPOY0)

batchelor did a segment on this last night.  It was very informative and totally made the global warmies look like fools.

210 So beck was just talking about people who beg from help from the heavens and are running and he noted sarah palin first.  wonder if he knows he let the cat out of the bag.  Others he noted were bachman, santorum, romney.  romney?

211 Based on the transcript I though Bachmann "won" the debate.

212 On Fox right now they are talking about the investigation into the gun running scam from ATF. It turns out that the border patrol agent who was killed by the drug runners was killed with some of these illegal guns supplied by the U.S. government.

213 Vic- problem is the transcripts aren't what makes or breaks debate performance- remember 1960? That said her televised performance, to me, neutralizes her "crazed" perception. She looked good, sounded great, argued coherently. I think Romney "won" in that his televised performance was the strongest of all of them, but on substance alone, I concur with you. All of the candidates, besides "past his bedtime" Paul, performed far better than McCain in 2008.

214 Vic- problem is the transcripts aren't what makes or breaks debate performance- remember 1960?

Unfortunately that is true, but I think it applies to Democrats more than Republicans.

215 ladies and gentlemen, we have a renegade.

216 221 Based on the transcript I though Bachmann "won" the debate.

Posted by: Vic at June 15, 2011 10:51 AM (M9Ie6)

Immediately after the debate I came on and said "bachmann wooo hoooo" cause that was my thought too.  She basically ran the table.

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