June 28, 2011
— Gabriel Malor The French Revolution is of Christian origin. The newspaper is of Christian origin. The anarchists are of Christian origin. Physical science is of Christian origin. The attack on Christianity is of Christian origin. There is one thing, and one thing only, in existence at the present day which can in any sense accurately be said to be of pagan origin, and that is Christianity.
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Wow, on F&F this morning Stewart Varney reports that CA is getting the Oakland Bay Bridge built in China and shipped here in order to avoid Davis-Bacon which would require that it be built by Union members. It is $500M cheaper to build it in China and ship it here because of Davis-Bacon.
Another one for "The Mother of All Repeal" bills from Bachmann.Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:00 AM (M9Ie6)
Obama once again issues one of his outrageous lies that are laughable
White House Insists Obama's Iowa Stop for Economy, Not 2012Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:00 AM (M9Ie6)
1894 folks, it is no wonder that the country has gone to hell.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:01 AM (M9Ie6)
This is the kind of shit that gets Ron Paul on the crack-pot list
Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) said Monday that bankruptcy could
be the best solution for the United States to address its mounting debt.
Paul, the libertarian Republican presidential candidate, suggested that
bankruptcy would be a good option or, short of that, refusing to repay
obligations to the Federal Reserve.
Assuming that this is true (its from the Hill) it shows why even though he has some damn good ideas and standing on many of the domestic issues he gains no traction with conservatives.
I know Y-not and others have given me a lot of grief on this because I only addressed it in the comments and not in the actual point score. But I am really at a loss for how to do that. I tried to be objective and fair about the categories without going overboard on the number to evaluate.
If I start adjusting the
categories and adding one like perhaps “flakiness” which would appear to be
targeted to Ron Paul is that being fair or just trying to stear the evaluation?
I am open to ideas here M&Ms.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:02 AM (M9Ie6)
Not news but infuriating
nonetheless. Damn advertisement on TV showing a pseudo Muslim discussing how to
buy a gun at gun shows without background checks.
This is a BS red hearing folks.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:02 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:03 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:04 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:03 AM (M9Ie6)
I can only bear to watch because that dolt, Gretchen, appears to be on vacation.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 03:05 AM (X6akg)
True, but she is replacing Megyn Kelly in the afternoon.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:06 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: davod at June 28, 2011 03:07 AM (C5U9L)
Posted by: dr kill at June 28, 2011 03:07 AM (le5qc)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:06 AM (M9Ie6)
Don't they usually have Martha McCallum fill in for Megyn Kelly? Gretchen? They might as well have an empty chair fill in for her.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 03:09 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:11 AM (M9Ie6)
Bush rates are kept safe in debt-limit talks
The White House, seeking an agreement to raise the nationÂ’s $14.3 trillion debt ceiling by Aug. 2, on Monday said it would not insist that any deal include an end to former President George W. BushÂ’s controversial tax rates on the wealthy.
Supposedly this has Pelosi
and the commie wing of congress up in arms. I think that is a load of crocodile
tears designed to pacify the base.
Note that old familiar meme in there from The Hill. No bias there huh.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:12 AM (M9Ie6)
I guess it depends on what you consider science. The scientific method was developed during the 17th century. But obviously people were doing physics-y things before that.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2011 03:13 AM (FkKjr)
I will try to find out more on this later forma printed source after I finish going through the papers. (which may also have it)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:14 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Willard in Paramus at June 28, 2011 03:14 AM (+kznc)
Posted by: billypaintbrush at June 28, 2011 03:16 AM (A4P7O)
The French Revolution is of Christian origin.Do not know, but they were mostly Diest and strongly anti-clerical killing around 6 million christians
The newspaper is of Christian origin.certainly possible
The anarchists are of Christian origin.Do not history of the anarchist movement
Physical science is of Christian origin.True, the beginnings of the modern sciences was done by Christians trying to see the plan God had for the universe. Earlier Greek science was more of the philosophy of science than experimental.
The attack on Christianity is of Christian origin.First attack on Christianity was by jews, 2nd wave was by pagans (Roman), third wave was by Muslims, certainly a lot of christian on christian violins as well.
There is one thing, and one thing only, in existence at the present day which can in any sense accurately be said to be of pagan origin, and that is Christianity.If you look at the early parts of Judaism there is mention of the Jewish people separating themselves from there pagan origins, so if Christianity flowed from Judaism, then part of its ancestry was pagan, but part of it was also a true belief in God from the time of Adam.
Posted by: Bill at June 28, 2011 03:21 AM (LZSir)
Commie Bernie Sanders is at it again
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is blocking Senate confirmation of Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) member William Ostendorff to another term due to NRC efforts to extend operation of the Vermont Yankee nuclear plant over the opposition of state officials.
Notice how The Hill gives him an “I” instead of a “C”. This shows you how they are not serious about Nuclear Power or CO2 worries. The whole CO2 scam is about advancing communism.
Vermont, when are you going to get rid of this aging and stupid commie?
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:21 AM (M9Ie6)
I guess it depends on what you consider science. The scientific method was developed during the 17th century. But obviously people were doing physics-y things before that
They were doing 'phlogistonly' things before that. And grave robbing so as to study anatomy. And a lot of praying.
And guess when they discovered sperm? Shortly after discovering the microscope.
Posted by: Jack at June 28, 2011 03:24 AM (kCT7A)
Posted by: Case at June 28, 2011 03:25 AM (0K+Kw)
Romney says he can work with Democrats
Voters in New Hampshire question the GOP presidential candidate about partisan feuding in Washington. He says he can find common ground with the opposition.
Los Angeles Times June 28, 2011
As Democratic and Republican leaders in Washington struggled to find agreement on spending cuts and extending the debt limit, Mitt Romney struck a conciliatory note in New Hampshire on Monday by lamenting partisan feuding while touting his record of working with Democrats -- even the Senate's onetime liberal lion Edward M. Kennedy.
...
By way of contrast, Romney said, during his early years as governor he held weekly meetings with Democratic legislators after realizing that to get something done he "had to be friendly."
Collaboration in Massachusetts was possible, Romney told business leaders in Salem, because he didn't attack lawmakers from the other party as "a bunch of Neanderthals."
...
At both stops, Romney pointed to the warmth between former President Reagan and former Democratic House Speaker Thomas P. "Tip" O'Neill as an example of what is needed in the Capitol.
"I worked with [former Massachusetts Sen.] Ted Kennedy, for Pete's sakes," Romney said in Concord, noting that they disagreed on "almost everything."
One issue that Kennedy and Romney worked closely on was legislation expanding healthcare coverage in Massachusetts. He recalled, to laughter, that at the ceremonial signing of the Massachusetts healthcare law, the Democrat had joked that when he and Romney agreed on a piece of legislation "it proves only one thing – one of us didn't read it."
"The truth was we had both read it and we'd found some common ground," Romney said, "and I think that has to happen in Washington."
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at June 28, 2011 03:26 AM (EeYDk)
most states elect judges. Virginia does not. when lawyers raise money for a judges' campaign, does anyone expect that judge to be impartial when that lawyer is before him? also, judges would decide based on what the electorate might want or understand rather than what is the law?
well, anyway, maybe it is all in what you are used to.
Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 28, 2011 03:26 AM (VIqi1)
Yes true, but Sanders openly advertises that he is a communist so why can't they label him as such?
And damn had to run to bathroom and missed half of the Bachmann interview.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:28 AM (M9Ie6)
This is the kind of shit that scares the hell out of me with him supposedly in the lead. Nothing could illustrate the fact that he is another McCain with slick hair.
In fact I am going to place this in the Romney eval.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:32 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix
He does realise that IS NOT A GOOD FUCKING THING in the eyes of conservatives, correct?
Posted by: todler at June 28, 2011 03:32 AM (fPOY0)
Are you sure about that? I haven't gone out and researched it but I don't recall that many that elect them.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:35 AM (M9Ie6)
No, the asshole doesn't. He's either pure fucking tone-deaf or he's doing this kind of shit on purpose, tacking left thinking the gutless moderate independents will wet their fucking pants when he slobbers about partisanship.
God help us if the prick gets the nomination.
Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at June 28, 2011 03:37 AM (MPtFW)
They say he could get in trouble for this.
Hahahahahahahaha not a chance in hell.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:38 AM (M9Ie6)
I don't think things were EVER "non-partisan" in Washington.
Furthermore, any of these hand-wringers who asks a quetion to a GOP candidate like "What about the partisan feuding in Washington and the poisonous tone?" is either clueless (not realizing we are in mortal danger from this administration) or democrat plants (trying to stir up controversy and get candidates to attack their own members of Congress) or they are imaginary people made up by reporters, like the ubiquitous Oriental Mr. Sum Say.
Posted by: Miss Marple at June 28, 2011 03:39 AM (Fo83G)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:00 AM (M9Ie6)
DO NOT be the first to drive on that bridge. The Chinese are highly notorious for cheating when it comes to steel grades. This isn't a plug for union labor, which is now killing the golden goose. This is an observation of the fact that you dare not trust any complex or technical product from China to either do what it is supposed to do, or last as long as it should.
This will end in tears.
I can't believe we've come to the point where the US is choosing to outsource infrastructure development. May as well start turning the lights off and getting ready to just shut this place down. There must be a better, more grown-up method for addressing the union problem.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2011 03:39 AM (xUM1Q)
I have saying for a long time that he thinks he already has the primary sewed up and is now running to the left for the "independents".
Or could it be that "the fix" is in because it is his turn?
Should we start another conspiracy theory to aggravate Ace?
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:40 AM (M9Ie6)
Why do they never ask someone like Bwarney Fwank or any of the Dems that question.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:42 AM (M9Ie6)
I have driven across that bridge many times. I just find this amazing.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:43 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Case at June 28, 2011 03:48 AM (0K+Kw)
Posted by: Aurvant at June 28, 2011 03:50 AM (NBjiE)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2011 03:51 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
he's working toward keeping that a reality
Posted by: todler at June 28, 2011 03:54 AM (fPOY0)
To me this looked like a setup to get her to fire back so the Dems could play the race card back. She handled it very well still sticking to her message. I think she is demonstrating that she is not the stupid that a lot of people complained about on some of the tea party candidates last cycle.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:54 AM (M9Ie6)
Believe both reasons given are incorrect- King Putt is out there fighting for his political life- this clueless jackhole needs to survive the next seventeen months, never mind re-election.
It's kind of fun, watching the flop sweat appear ever more distinctly on this brain dead idiot's stupid face. He really has no idea what the hell he's doing, and its becoming ever more apparent to pretty much everyone, even his butt buddies in the media.
Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 28, 2011 03:56 AM (XyjRQ)
They are going after Jon Stewart hard and Cain is about to come up.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 03:58 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Carol Brady at June 28, 2011 04:03 AM (kUaEF)
More than 50 Tea Partiers, many from Utah, stormed the offices of the National Republican Senatorial Committee here in Washington on Monday to protest the organizationÂ’s support of Republican incumbent Sen. Orrin Hatch.
If the Republicans think they can ignore 2010 and go back to business as usual they better think again. DeMint has been warning them. This is another shot across the bow.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:04 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at June 28, 2011 04:06 AM (j5CHE)
Posted by: Dammrebel at June 28, 2011 04:06 AM (Rj1PU)
Anyone who saw him govern in Massachusetts knows this. All sizzle and no steak.
Where was he when Wisconsin was up in rebellion?
What did he accomplish in Massachusetts, aside from name recognition?
He's a decent man, but he is trapped in the 1990's perspective of national politics, that spin is everything, and that personal courage is the use of stern language in policy speeches whose intent is to target certain sectors of the conservative voting base.
Everything is calculated and predictable and poll driven with Mitt.
Posted by: Late to the Party at June 28, 2011 04:06 AM (0b17P)
Dream Act to get hearing in the Senate
But for the first time?????
I still think this is playing to the base because they know there is no way they can get this through.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:07 AM (M9Ie6)
I can only bear to watch because that dolt, Gretchen, appears to be on vacation.
Wow. I thought I was the only one that felt that way.
I stopped watching when Outrage!™ became her new "brand"
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 04:08 AM (sbV1u)
I still think this is playing to the base because they know there is no way they can get this through.
Let them play. It's so cute watching kids make the same mistakes over and over while they try to learn.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 04:13 AM (sbV1u)
Many of us on here have remarked about it for a while.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:18 AM (M9Ie6)
I wonder how I missed this yesterday
Justices void Arizona campaign-finance law Publicly funded candidatesÂ’ edge held to be unfairI havenÂ’t looked at this closely but on the surface it looks like a good ruling.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:21 AM (M9Ie6)
"1894 folks, it is no wonder that the country has gone to hell."
Going too far with a legitimate point that needed to be addressed: abusive labor conditions.
Since 1894, unions exposed themselves to be the parasite on the other side of the wage coin opposite taxes that fund enforcement of laws on the books. If unions provided the cure-all, there'd be no problem like bankrupted industries.
That miners' secure working conditions have yet to be the consistent rule instead of the exception proves the fraud of their own union's intent. Miners were the first to organize, and had every right to organize given their working circumstances. As has been said, the first shall be last...
Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2011 04:25 AM (lpWVn)
Even critical scholars will easily place the writings of Mark and 1 Corinthians before 70 AD. The records from the Neronian persecution also support a much earlier date than the one you've given for Christians being a sect marked out from Judaism. Christianity was a markedly separate sect well before the temple was destroyed.
Posted by: James at June 28, 2011 04:25 AM (IbRel)
Extended hand instead of clenched fist, blah, blah, blahÂ… And to think there were those of us who doubted.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 28, 2011 04:26 AM (jx2j9)
TSA now denying that they made 95 year old woman remove depends.
I find this denial less than credible.Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:31 AM (M9Ie6)
Vermont, when are you going to get rid of this aging and stupid commie?
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:21 AM (M9Ie6)
Vic, have you ever been in Vermont? Sanders fits in well.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 04:35 AM (LH6ir)
Wow. That would buy a lot of carbon credits. $535 million.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 28, 2011 04:36 AM (jx2j9)
WOW! This whole morning thread is so deep and introspective it remindes me of something else:
http://tinyurl.com/y8ufsnp
Posted by: MrObvious at June 28, 2011 04:38 AM (H87Hu)
Going too far with a legitimate point that needed to be addressed: abusive labor conditions.
Spot on. OSHA exists now, so there goes that excuse for unions. These days the only justifiable purpose for unions is protection of the incompetent and semi-legal thievery.
Since those aren't "goods" the majority of us are interested in (that 93% of the workforce not in unions), unions should now go the way of the dinosaur.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 04:38 AM (sbV1u)
I took a driving trip through there once when I was living in NY. It was on one of my extended weekends (rare). I didn't interact enough to get a political feel for the area at the time (in early 70s). Besides at that time other than being an arch conservative, I was apolitical.
I did get the feeling that they considered every body an "outsider".
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:40 AM (M9Ie6)
I find this denial less than credible.
Vic, they didn't remove her diaper. Physically.
Which I suppose is the standard they are using to avoid a lawsuit.
They made her daughter remove her diaper. So, in bureucrat-think, they're not responsible. I suppose "techincally" they are correct.
To those of us who have common sense, they made her remove her diaper.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 04:41 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Thorvald at June 28, 2011 04:42 AM (Ar5YY)
ItÂ’s like you know youÂ’re a sucker and you realize that everyone else knows youÂ’re a sucker and takes full advantage of that, but you just canÂ’t bring yourself to stop being a sucker. ItÂ’s almost as if there is this irrational notion in your head that being a sucker makes people like you, not respect you mind you. Even you arenÂ’t that far gone.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 28, 2011 04:42 AM (jx2j9)
On that we'll have to disagree. Even after the Revolutionary war Hamilton (who I otherwise didn't like) knew that default on debt would be bad for out new country. The debt then was much more crushing then in relation to the economy than it is now yet we managed to pay it off.
We can pay off the debt in time. The first step is to end the damn deficit.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:44 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: DavidM at June 28, 2011 04:46 AM (R/e5b)
Yes, you are most likely correct there. They are "parsing" their words.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:46 AM (M9Ie6)
He also handled the provocateur Jon Stewart damn well.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:48 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 28, 2011 04:48 AM (jx2j9)
Heh! Looks like someone in Greece reads this blog
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 04:49 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: DavidM at June 28, 2011 08:46 AM (R/e5b)
Yeah, but he was a Jooooo
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 04:50 AM (AnTyA)
They are about as crunchy a bunch of granola eating progressives as I have ever seen. Just think Berkeley without the violence and filth, and with pretty mountains. Oh, and its those mountains that allow them the luxury of their stupidity. All of those tourism dollars from the skiers and the spa goers and the hikers pays for a huge amount of their idiot policies. Without that external source of cash there would be a lot of out-of-work potters and massage therapists in Vermont.
In their defense they are friendly, and there is a breakfast place in Ludlow that might be the best in the country. And a gun store in Manchester that is just amazing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 04:51 AM (LH6ir)
OK NYC Morons, give me a clue here on how this happens.
Don't they have guard rails to prevent this kind of thing? And if they don't how are they getting around the OSHA requirement?This is one of the things OSHA loves the shit out of gigging private industry for.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 04:53 AM (M9Ie6)
What, exactly, will it mean when we default on Fed-owned debt? Who do we owe it to, exactly? Ourselves? This sham 'private' entity? What power does the Fed have to enforce its claim, and what are the results of some future government just deciding to wipe that debt, along with the Fed, off the books?
Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2011 04:54 AM (MMC8r)
since both my husband & I are unemployed but perhaps we can stand with the crowds that line the streets and watch his carriage go by.
Posted by: jeannebodine at June 28, 2011 05:00 AM (nvlAW)
THIS!!!
Remember who the Fed is. The board is made up of political appointees and the members are bankers...who are looking after nothing but the interests of political appointees and bankers.
The Fed is largely responsible for the economic meltdown.
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 05:01 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Me, with absolutely no sarcasm at all, really. at June 28, 2011 05:02 AM (hne2F)
No guard rails. They rely on the basic intelligence of most vertebrates that prevents them from standing too close to the edge.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 05:03 AM (LH6ir)
Since Sir Isaac Newton was an Apocalyptic Christian thinker, I am smarter than he was. Had he never existed, I would be, without question, The Greatest Min... gee, maybe not... maybe I'd be a pig farmer (not that there's anything wrong with that)...
I'll discuss this further in my next book. I need some sleep. Dear God, help me get some sleep...
Posted by: Stephen Hawking at June 28, 2011 05:05 AM (nBE5A)
Note that old familiar meme in there from The Hill. No bias there huh.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:12 AM (M9Ie6)
Wow, the comments section is a full-on mess of stupid. Meteor, earthlings, assemble.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 28, 2011 05:06 AM (kOtPb)
@ 6 The Ron Paul proposal is the quick fix. It would work but is fraught with unintended consequences, the most dire IMO being that our money supply is backed only by the full faith and credit of the government. That backing would be lost immediately, never to be regained (although never is a long time).
The proposal itself is hatched from a lazy mind. It does nothing to address the underlying structural problems of our current debt/spending habits. Specifically, the Paul plan does nothing to address entitlement programs, the bane of our fiscal problems.
Take social security; there is no trust fund or lock box where the money we've paid into the system has been stashed to be returned piecemeal upon retirement. But to just eliminate it would be as irresponsible as this Paul plan - so it has to be phased out of existence to honor the full faith and credit of our government's promise to provide a retirement for everyone.
Vic, you don't need a "flake" rating; the Paul supporters got that one covered already. But for proposing this as a solution to the financial crisis he does score a Zero for laziness.
And the last thing we need is four more years of Zero.
Posted by: 57 states at June 28, 2011 05:08 AM (sMgrb)
Who is poking Christians with a stick?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 05:08 AM (LH6ir)
Here is the report that that I think Fox was referencing on the Soros Judge story
It is 8 pages long and I havenÂ’t read it yet. It is a pdf so you need adobe acrobat as a plug-in to load it. It looks interesting and damn scary on the surface.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:09 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at June 28, 2011 05:10 AM (QTr+K)
Apparently Hawking's opinion of the quality of his cosmology and physics is different than that of his peers'.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 05:11 AM (LH6ir)
Obviously they have some kind of special exemption from OSHA then. As I recall the regulations that would be a clear violation.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:11 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: jeannebodine at June 28, 2011 09:00 AM (nvlAW)
Perhaps you will be able to catch a flower petal thrown by Michelle that you can take home to enshrine.
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 05:13 AM (yrGif)
I have never seen guard rails at any train station. It might be that there is no regulation that covers trains. Of course that will soon change.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 05:14 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at June 28, 2011 09:10 AM (QTr+K)
Didn't those Egyptian scholars have airplanes that were subsequently destroyed by the white man?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 05:16 AM (yrGif)
This is the kind of shit that scares the hell out of me with him supposedly in the lead. Nothing could illustrate the fact that he is another McCain with slick hair.
In fact I am going to place this in the Romney eval.
Posted by: Vic
And make sure you give him a Zero when you grade it.
Posted by: 57 states at June 28, 2011 05:16 AM (sMgrb)
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2011 05:17 AM (l5dj7)
Posted by: Kasper Hauser at June 28, 2011 09:10 AM (QTr+K)
It's more like the concepts and discoveries they stole and adopted were inadvertantly spread by Muslims during their bloody conquests
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 05:18 AM (AnTyA)
If I remember correctly the actual regulation didn't specify the location and use, only the exposed height which I think required guard rails if it is over 3 feet and more if it it is higher. I also think there was something in there for guards around hazardous exposure regardless of height.
I could be wrong as it has been a while since I looked at that regulation (and OSHA crap is tough to wade through; tougher than 10CFR50).
Also remember, OSHA and government regulation have no relationship with common sense.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:18 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 09:14 AM (LH6ir)
Guard rails that would be effective in a train or subway environment are almost impossible to design and implement unless your desire for absolute safety completely overwhelms your desire to actually get on the train and leave the station efficiently. But coming soon to a railway near you....
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 05:18 AM (yrGif)
That quote waaaaay up there at the top of the thread. Look carefully, I know it's easy to miss.
...and Wow! Let me tell you, I love reading muck-raking pronouncements about Christianity first thing in the morning. That Gabe guy is brilliant.
Posted by: Yo Mama, maybe with just a bit of sarcasm at June 28, 2011 05:19 AM (hne2F)
I think he already has a negative in that category. I'll update and repost the summary later.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:21 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 05:22 AM (NtTkA)
It's
more like the concepts and discoveries they stole and adopted were
inadvertantly spread by Muslims during their bloody conquests
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 09:18 AM (AnTyA)
LOL, I was going to say something on that related to the Greeks and the ancient Egyptian line but I already have too many irons in the fire right now.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:22 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 28, 2011 05:23 AM (eOXTH)
I have never ridden the subway in NYC but I have ridden BART in SF and MARTA in Atlanta and I don't remember exposed hazards like that. Maybe I missed them, but it seems they had some kind of arrangement.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:25 AM (M9Ie6)
I didn't read the comments but it's fascinating to watch who picks up a story. The two forums seem like they wouldn't pick this up.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 05:25 AM (k1rwm)
Care for some Greek Doom?
Greece protest against austerity package turns violent
/Sorry fellow countrymen - you cannot get blood from a turnip.
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 28, 2011 05:26 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 09:22 AM (NtTkA)
LOL, Wendell Goler differs with you on that.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:26 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 28, 2011 05:29 AM (STdkO)
...and Wow! Let me tell you, I love reading muck-raking pronouncements about Christianity first thing in the morning. That Gabe guy is brilliant.
Genius, that's a quote. Just like you'll find at the top of a good three-fourths of single Top Headlines Comments thread we've ever had.
In this case, it's a quote from G.K. Chesterton, who was commenting in 1905 on how Christianity had overtopped Paganism. His point was that the two systems are not co-equal options, or "parallel options" to use his term. He was explaining that if Paganism had any truth to it, Man would not have abandoned Paganism for Christianity. Chesterton, perhaps one of the most famous Christian apologists (and staunch Catholic in his later years), was combatting the rise of what he called "neo-Paganism."
In any case, the immediately preceding sentence of that quote, which I admit intentionally omitted, is "Everything else in the modern world is of Christian origin, even everything that seems most anti-Christian."
Spare me your accusations of attacks on Christianity. Also, a bit of classical education wouldn't hurt.
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 28, 2011 05:34 AM (kUHJ3)
Posted by: kelley in virginia at June 28, 2011 07:26 AM (VIqi1)
Looks like you were correct. From the Soros report (I am reading it now)
In 16 states there are processes in place by
which judicial nominees are selected by commissions of lawyers. However, 39 states also
give voters a major role in deciding whether judges sit on their state supreme courts.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:34 AM (M9Ie6)
Well, duh. The real question is can he work with Republicans?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 05:34 AM (5d6vv)
Iran trying to punch above its weight again:
See Ace!! Even Iran knows not to punch down!!1!
Posted by: Gerg at June 28, 2011 05:35 AM (BSWJE)
Posted by: naturalfake at June 28, 2011 05:35 AM (I49Jm)
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 09:26 AM (k1rwm)
Don't you love the fact that we have to go to the UK press to show the attacker in this assault? Also, if a 13 or 16 year old is involved in this, fuck those stupid ass laws that say they can't be named. If you are going to commit a violent felony I sure as shit want to know who you are.
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 28, 2011 05:38 AM (Rn2kl)
Add to that:
New Jersey
North Carolina
Florida
New Yorkers are like a viral infection. Can't get rid of them
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 05:39 AM (136wp)
Just got my copy of "Reckless Endangerment" in the mail.
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 28, 2011 09:17 AM (0fzsA)
Prepare to get really, really pissed off. This mess was caused by a collusion of Congress, regulators, Wall St. and Fannie and Freddie.
There was a serious incestuous relationship among them, and they ignored or downplayed the coming economic implosion to make their obscene profits and salaries or for ideological reasons.
There was a lot of "I help you get yours if you help me get mine" going on that was clearly outside the law and the rules of ethics.
There should be a lot of people getting butt-raped in federal prisons right now but who are untouchable.
They are still in elected office or political appointments, or sitting on mountains of cash they scammed. If you were of the mind that TARP was a good idea, this book will disabuse you of that notion pretty quickly. After knowing how they really manipulated things, the idea that the fucking crooks on Wall St. got huge bonuses from the bailout will make your head explode
After reading this, I have lost complete faith and trust in both the US government and Wall St., not that I had much before.
Posted by: beedubya at June 28, 2011 05:40 AM (AnTyA)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 05:40 AM (NtTkA)
Response to Revolutionary Guard "General":
Is that your car there? Yes, the third one from the right...we can make it go boom. At night. In the rain.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 05:40 AM (B+qrE)
So you were being a dick then.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 05:40 AM (GTbGH)
Quote "Henrey broke down in court as Carter's parents vented their anger."
Poor little sh*thead, doesn't have a problem beating someone up but let someone yell at him and he starts crying like a punk.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 05:42 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 28, 2011 05:42 AM (kUHJ3)
If the victim was black and the suspects were white, you wouldn't be able to NOT see this story in the US.
And all I can say is that if this were my son in the hospital after something like this, the cops better put every goddamn one of those suspects under 24 hour protection, because I'd be coming for them. One way or another.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 05:46 AM (5d6vv)
This is my favorite quote:
"The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried."
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 05:46 AM (136wp)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 05:47 AM (GvYeG)
Dude, I like you, but you were fishing for a rube to pummel with this. You took a quote that to the casual view as tying Christianity to paganism, even to the extend of admittedly clipping it so as not to spoil your big reveal, aha unlettered fools! It's a Chesterton quote!
Any way, it doesn't matter. I just put it down to your spicy Hispanic nature
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 05:47 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 28, 2011 05:47 AM (eOXTH)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 05:47 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 05:49 AM (NtTkA)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 09:47 AM (kUaEF)
You can drag a horse to water but you can't make him put on a bathing suit?
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 05:49 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 28, 2011 05:49 AM (GT2wE)
O wise and all-seeing prophet of all that skips merrily, what is thy intent in posting the altered quote? Truly, base minds such as my own cannot fathom the genius of such exercises.
Posted by: Yo Mama, humbly and with full proskynesis at June 28, 2011 05:50 AM (hne2F)
Not when interest rates return to their natural levels - and they will. At that point, our debt will be unserviceable.
Posted by: progressoverpeace at June 28, 2011 08:53 AM (G/MYk)
I think you're assuming the state has to borrow money to spend, and that it is not capable of simply getting interest rates where it wants them. That's not really the case.
Some inflation would be preferable to default. The political fall out from default is incalculable. In the 80's the average inflation was something like 6%, which was pretty endurable. I don't remember my folks carrying wheelbarrows of cash to buy bread. If it weren't for the energy shortage, and subsequent food cost increases, inflation would be zero or negative right now. Unemployment is still massive. The government is not appropriating much in the way of labor or liquidity right now. There's room to monetize, and the consequences, while not optimal, would be far from unendurable.
Get the deficit back down to historic levels, and preferably a lot lower, and things will work out in the end. But if we maintain the current spending levels eventually the excess reserves will indeed pile up too high. Given that they're at record levels now, I think maybe it's time to consider disincentivizing holding them.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2011 05:50 AM (xUM1Q)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 28, 2011 05:51 AM (9hSKh)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 09:49 AM (NtTkA)
It's GK Chesteron.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 05:51 AM (136wp)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 05:52 AM (GTbGH)
And by the way, my faith does not need anyone's approval. You don't like it, don't do it, other than that ... kiss my ass. I am not one of those "turn the other cheek" guys JSYK.
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 05:53 AM (GvYeG)
I don't know if Wallace understands how big that hit on his integrity is. I stupidly thought he was the real thing.
Look, at least he apologized and it wasn't a weaselly apology - it was a straight up apology. I'll give him a pass on this one. I still think he's fair even if he screwed the pooch here.
OTOH, he's Mike Wallace's kid, and the apple probably didn't fall too far from the tree.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 05:55 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 05:55 AM (NtTkA)
"There is a law written in the darkest of the Books of Life, and it is this: If you look at a thing nine hundred and ninety-nine times, you are perfectly safe; if you look at it the thousandth time, you are in frightful danger of seeing it for the first time."- GKC
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 05:56 AM (136wp)
I posted that story on the Columbia wilding 2 or 3 days ago. It was covered here, including the followup on the charges which I posted yesterday.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 05:56 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 09:47 AM (kUaEF)
FWIW, it's growing pretty fast in China. I think it's the one thing they have going for them in that land.
In the US all the instruments of the state and the leftist cultural complex are turned against Christianity, and they are working in favor of Leftism. Truth vs. falsehood doesn't enter into the equasion any more - it's full on propaganda, 24-7, in every media outlet. The libtards learned from Hitler - any lie repeated often enough is eventually believed, and the bigger the lie the more likely poeple are to believe it. Politics and religion both suffer. People in America live such easy lives that they have the luxury of not looking for truth, but rather for shopping beliefs to find the one that suits them best. If things ever get hard again, such that folks feel their cocoon is no longer secure, I think we'll see revival, at least at some level. I could be wrong, but it's my theory. It's happened that way before.
Posted by: Reactionary at June 28, 2011 05:57 AM (xUM1Q)
And, somehow, because of race, you would be pilloried for referring to these attackers as the animals they are.
But they are animals, regardless of their race, and based completely on the barbarity of their actions.
Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2011 05:58 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 28, 2011 06:02 AM (STdkO)
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)
You're my hero.
Although it's the wrong kind of action shots. That said I'm in love with the girl in pic #19. hot IDF chick with her own TANK?!?! Yeah, I'm there.
Posted by: todler at June 28, 2011 06:03 AM (fPOY0)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 06:03 AM (NtTkA)
OTOH, he's Mike Wallace's kid, and the apple probably didn't fall too far from the tree.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 09:55 AM (sbV1u)
If you can stand to watch him, do so with a critical and questioning eye. If you do this, I believe that you will see, rather quickly, a very subtle but consistent liberal wearing a mask and getting away with it because he is on Fox.
For example, Juan W (bona fide liberal useful idiot) is almost always on Chris' panels. Are there no other panel contributors that can serve as the lib representative?
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 06:04 AM (yrGif)
Run on for a long time-
but sooner or later, God'll cut you down.
Here endeth the lesson. Now where's my #@?!!+%$! bennies?
Posted by: Zombie Johny Cash at June 28, 2011 06:04 AM (XyjRQ)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 06:06 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 06:06 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at June 28, 2011 06:07 AM (cbyrC)
And his enemies include Aleister Crowley...
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:07 AM (136wp)
http://preview.tinyurl.com/GeorgeattacksBachmann
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 06:08 AM (yrGif)
The quotation -- truncated or not -- is not critical of Christianity. It is an empirically correct observation. Why you are both overly-sensitive and obtuse is beyond me.
Practice your reading comprehension, read up on the origins of Christianity, and think before you post stupidities, and you will do fine here.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 06:09 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: Joffen at June 28, 2011 06:10 AM (EPcuy)
False, the French Revolution is of an atheist, Secular Humanist origin, and was the birth of Progressivism, which gifted the world with Socialism and Fascism.
Posted by: Naqamel at June 28, 2011 06:10 AM (UMwMT)
Well, the Greeks and Romans believed the Olympian gods would afflict you with plagues and war if you didn't properly honor them. Considering there is massive prosperity after they have been abandoned, it's safe to say they don't exist.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2011 06:12 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 28, 2011 06:12 AM (SB0V2)
This SOROS report is super scary. Here is some of it:
A principal goal for JAS is to replace judicial elections with a system of “merit selection.” JAS believes a model system, such as one used in Missouri since 1940, would strengthen the role of state bar associations in providing advice on court selections. Since 1999, OSI has given just over $5 million to the American Bar Association (ABA) to promote the Missouri model.
Note somehow JAS has become tax exempt like a lot of SoroÂ’s political organizations. And anyone who doesnÂ’t know that the ABA is now a front group for the Democrat party hasnÂ’t been keeping up with the times. Think AMA for lawyers here.
The report details how the Democrats through the ABA had taken over the high courts of most States and reeked havoc through activism, particularly in the tort arena. It tells of how Republicans and business had begun fighting back and how they had turned Alabama around from “lawyer tort heaven”.
This Soros funded JAS organization is working to eliminate this by having the ABA get back into the Judge appointing business. They name a lot of prominent Democrats in the JAS group but here is a shocker:
In recent months, however, the public face of judicial merit selection has been a former Republican state legislator. She received a key federal judicial appointment from President Ronald Reagan with the strong encouragement of Arizona senator Barry Goldwater. Her name: Sandra Day OÂ’Connor.
O’Connor is not officially connected with JAS, but her “O’Connor Judicial Selection Initiative” adds credibility and publicity to the JAS cause. Affiliated with the University of Denver, the initiative boasts an 11-member panel of distinguished legal advisors and has sponsored O’Connor’s nationwide speaking tour advocating the end of judicial elections.
I never was impressed with Sandra Day O-Flip-Flop and I consider her one of ReaganÂ’s major failings.
The report goes on and on about how screwed up having lawyers be prominent in appointing judges is and really doesnÂ’t stress the Soros angle until the end. At that point it simply says that Soros knows what he wants and it is lawyers appointing judges and he is putting his money where his mouth is.I really donÂ’t know what the best system for appointing State Supreme Court judges is. All of the current systems have shown weaknesses. But I do know one thing, having the ABA, or any other trail lawyer group do it, is a damn straight line conflict of interest and a sure way to get even more liberal justices in place.
And what is really scary about this? This is just one more leg in the George Soros war on capitalism and Western democracy AND the SOBs in congress are helping him with our own tax dollars!
He funds hundreds of tax exempt Democrat front groups
He funds hundreds of communist activist groups (same as above), also tax exempt.
He funds organizations heavy into voter fraud like ACORN, also tax exempt and even funded directly by congress.
He is funding the program to take State AG offices so they can block Republican efforts to show voter fraud in Democrat steals.
Now he wants the final leg where he can even control the courts.
In short folks, he wants communist control of every leg of our governing apparatus. He is destabilizing the economies of Western nations in addition to all of the above.
AND HE IS USING OUT OWN TAXES TO DO IT.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 06:13 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Gabriel Malor at June 28, 2011 06:15 AM (kUHJ3)
His point is that Christianity is the ultimate source of most things, even secular humanism and fascism and socialism.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 06:15 AM (LH6ir)
Considering there is massive prosperity after they have been abandoned, it's safe to say they don't exist.
*ahem*
Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 28, 2011 06:15 AM (9hSKh)
Christianity is a belief not a truth. There is no way to prove it true. I believe it.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:16 AM (136wp)
Posted by: t-bird at June 28, 2011 06:18 AM (FcR7P)
Posted by: Joffen at June 28, 2011 06:19 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 28, 2011 06:19 AM (eOXTH)
Don't bother. You are obviously anti-Christian and a (fill in pejorative for Spanish people). ;-)
I am pretty sensitive to criticism of religion, and I didn't read anything into that quotation.
By the way, I am guessing that Malor is Spanish. If I am wrong, please fill in the appropriate nationality.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 06:20 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 10:16 AM (136wp)
---------------------------------
If you were born and raised in Iraq, chances are you'd be Muslim.
Posted by: Joffen at June 28, 2011 10:19 AM (EPcuy)
But I wasn't.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:21 AM (136wp)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 28, 2011 06:22 AM (eOXTH)
Not necessarily so. There are plenty of Iranian jews in the US. They call themselves Persians cause they don't want the association with Iran. There are also many Christians in these so called muslim countries, you just don't hear much about them until people decide they want to get rid of them.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 06:23 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at June 28, 2011 06:24 AM (NtTkA)
You are wrong.
Posted by: C. Hitchens -- Intellect extraordinaire at June 28, 2011 10:22 AM (LH6ir)
Well, that was convincing but I'm bitterly clinging to my beliefs.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:25 AM (136wp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 06:26 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at June 28, 2011 06:27 AM (4t9J5)
Posted by: curious
Hopefully there isn't a forum. We had some bad experiences near one.
Posted by: I'm not lion at June 28, 2011 06:27 AM (6rX0K)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 06:28 AM (GvYeG)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 10:28 AM (GvYeG)
Possibly something can be arranged in the event that the NFL doesn't get its act together for the fall?
Posted by: MWR at June 28, 2011 06:30 AM (4df7R)
And if you were born in rural Elbonia you might believe bigger objects fall faster than smaller ones.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2011 06:30 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Larry Dickman at June 28, 2011 10:27 AM (4t9J5)
but there are very few living Muslims that became Christians
Posted by: Hrothgar at June 28, 2011 06:31 AM (yrGif)
Now kiss Baby Jesus and say 3 Hail Marys.
Posted by: Yo Mama, Grand Inquisitor at June 28, 2011 06:31 AM (hne2F)
War during the years 1861 - 1865
Christine O'Donnell
Sarah Palin
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 06:31 AM (M9Ie6)
For example, Juan W (bona fide liberal useful idiot) is almost always on Chris' panels. Are there no other panel contributors that can serve as the lib representative?
Not to take this too far but - no.
Because there are few liberals out there who aren't drooling in-need-of-medication Obama syncophants.
Even the "elder statesmen" are idiots. Bob Beckel? His choo-choo went chugging 'round the bend about 6-7 years ago.
Bob Shrum? Who listens to him? He's never won an election.
James Carville? Ummmm, seriously?
Sure, I think Juan is a useful idiot. I also think Juan is a liberal you can talk to. You'll win a few points with him, and you'll never lose any.
Just ask Brit Hume.
BTW, it's soooooooooo much fun to watch him dismantle Juan. I miss him on the nightly 6:00 p.m. news.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:32 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 06:33 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2011 06:35 AM (4Kl5M)
Two things.
First, even the local news (a Fox station) couldn't drum up much enthusiasm for his appearance.
Second, it's Deer Valley. So not really Utah Utah.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 06:35 AM (TFxd0)
James Carville? Ummmm, seriously?
Not to hijack your point, Who looks more like Skeletor - Carville or Colmes? I mean really, did someone add to much "ugly" to the cloning slurry that day?
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:35 AM (136wp)
Now that I am caught up I had a thought about the posts on Vermont earlier this morning.
There is at least one good thing in Vermont. They are kind of pricey but they have some neat stuff from out of the past.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 06:36 AM (M9Ie6)
I won't link, since it's CNN online and I don't want to make anyone ill.
Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2011 06:38 AM (rGP52)
So, does anyone think the "using the White House to film fundraising pitches" story has any legs? I'd like to say yes, but probably no. If we can't get a fricking, bonafide illegal war to stick to the slimy weasel I don't have much hope.
I'm having flashbacks to Clinton renting out the Lincoln Bedroom while Al Gore finessed Chinese nuns.
Posted by: MWR at June 28, 2011 06:39 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life and Killer of Polar Bears at June 28, 2011 10:37 AM (OWjjx)
You know us too well.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:39 AM (136wp)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 10:35 AM (136wp)
Hmmm....tough call.
I think Carville. I've seen him up close and personal too often to think otherwise.
I used to eat breakfast next him every day since he used to go into this little diner in Alexandria, VA where I was a regular. I didn't talk to him because I knew we had ZERO in common. I finally had to find another breakfast place because I felt like one day I was going to point out how mind-numbingly stupid he is
Or I was going to point out how increasing one's decibel level does not strengthen one's argument.
Man, I hate that guy. How Mary Matalin stand him is one of the great mysteries of time.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:40 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: Joffen at June 28, 2011 06:41 AM (EPcuy)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life and Killer of Polar Bears at June 28, 2011 10:37 AM (OWjjx)
You forgot tomention Ace posting a ginormous movie review of Cars II.
Posted by: MWR at June 28, 2011 06:41 AM (4df7R)
Posted by: Fred Hailar at June 28, 2011 06:42 AM (dgSqL)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 06:42 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 10:33 AM (kUaEF)
There's your problem.
Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2011 06:42 AM (MMC8r)
Did you guys see the link I posted yesterday quoting the Big Man (Christie) on gay marriage? He is opposed to it. He said he would veto any measure that came across his desk in NJ.
In an interview on NBC News' "Meet the Press" Sunday, Christie told host David Gregory that his state will stick with its civil union law.
"We had a very vigorous debate in late 2009, early 2010 - before I became governor - about same-sex marriage, and it failed in the state legislature under a Democratic legislature with Democratic Governor Jon Corzine. And so my view on it is, in our state we're going to continue to pursue civil unions," said the Republican governor.
"I am not a fan of same-sex marriage," asserted Christie. "It's not something that I support."
To me, this is an absolutely fine position. The horse is out of the barn on "gay families" with adoption laws and other means gays have of having kids, so they may as well have civil unions. Just not marriage.Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 06:43 AM (TFxd0)
Philippine Navy deploys to the Spratley Islands:
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Life imitates art.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:44 AM (sbV1u)
http://tinyurl.com/6c4apqe
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 06:45 AM (136wp)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 10:42 AM (kUaEF)
Pink? You don't want brown?
Racist!
I demand ytou denounce yourself.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:45 AM (sbV1u)
Posted by: CoolCzech at June 28, 2011 06:45 AM (kUaEF)
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 10:45 AM (136wp)
Watch it, you'll put your eye out with those things.
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:47 AM (sbV1u)
The Truth is a thing it is a Who. And His Name is Jesus Christ.
I was born into a Christian family but searched and found The Truth on my own.
Posted by: Nora at June 28, 2011 06:50 AM (VxqUc)
Philippine Navy deploys to the Spratley Islands:
"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."
Life imitates art.
Posted by: Sean Bannion
The Philippines has a Navy? Who knew?
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 28, 2011 06:52 AM (6rX0K)
We found a pottery place that makes some really nice kitchen and tableware that they fire at high temps for longer than usual. That makes them much more resistant to breakage. It is amazingly tough stuff, and quite beautiful.
Vermont really is a nice place, but it is sort of like going to Williamsburg, only for agrarian collectives.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 06:53 AM (LH6ir)
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2011 06:53 AM (h+qn8)
posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 10:53 AM (LH6ir)
You got that name of that place?
Posted by: Sean Bannion at June 28, 2011 06:55 AM (sbV1u)
Thanks for the correction. I guess I have been wrong all along.
Posted by: New Jew For Jesus at June 28, 2011 06:59 AM (LH6ir)
The people there do tend to be insular, but no more so than any small town people.
But the politics are too far left for my taste. And in general, I've lost my taste for the Northeast even though that's where my family is from and where I spent a lot of time. I guess the best way to describe what I don't like about it is that it's staid. I prefer the West.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 06:59 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Errol at June 28, 2011 06:59 AM (d2AYO)
Let me poke around. I think I have a brochure.
Posted by: New Jew For Jesus at June 28, 2011 07:00 AM (LH6ir)
drudge
Ya know they shrilly shreik about caring for the children, but are total hypocrits when it comes to attacking ANY child of a percieved enemy. sometimes they remind me of Islam throwing bombs and than pulling a child out in front of them to stop retaliation.
yeah i know, but I'm really sick of their tactics and our complacency
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2011 07:01 AM (h+qn8)
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 28, 2011 07:02 AM (GBXon)
Posted by: Lemon Kitten at June 28, 2011 07:03 AM (0fzsA)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 07:04 AM (GTbGH)
I also after re-reading realized that I gave Romney a bigger break on flip-flops than I did T-Paw so I changed his neutrals to negatives there. Romney was the first eval I did and it is not as detailed and as good as the later ones. I may be consider going back and redoing it. Anyway here is the new summary.
SUMMARY
So in summary, out of the 6 major conservative issues he has flip-flopped on 3, and after reconsidering the weight of his record against his flip flops and the fact that I punished T-Paw for these I have changed his neutrals there to negatives. Also factored in his outrageous statement about working with Democrats on the budget and taxes on the small government category changing that from mixed to massive negative.
So out of 6 he gets massive liberal fail 6 negatives. He is worse than Huntsman who had at least a positive on abortion with 4 negatives and a neutral.
Let the flames begin!Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:04 AM (M9Ie6)
http://tinyurl.com/6c4apqe
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 10:45 AM (136wp)
I think those are measured in cc's.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 07:05 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 07:05 AM (GTbGH)
D. Lasser Ceramics
The link doesn't work in Firefox for some reason. But I brought it up with explorer.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 28, 2011 07:06 AM (LH6ir)
I really do need to make a vacation trip up there before I get too old and actually spend some time traveling and meeting the people this time.
But only during the Summer and have to check finances. I have some things happening now regarding daughter's situation that are going to hurt me there.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:06 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 10:59 AM (TFxd0)
LOL, I have been working on my wife to go back West - to Wyoming, but she will just not have it. Too cold she yells at poor old me.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:08 AM (M9Ie6)
I wonder if the Fed is consulting with Bob Dole, he knows a lot about inflating.
Posted by: The Robot Devil at June 28, 2011 07:10 AM (136wp)
drudge
Damn these people are truly sick bastards. But we had to know it was coming.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:11 AM (M9Ie6)
Well, she made of point of mentioning her foster kids several times during the debates, so she's not too concerned about privacy here.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 07:11 AM (5d6vv)
Posted by: Waterhouse's Wimbledon Update at June 28, 2011 07:11 AM (IdoRk)
Posted by: Errol at June 28, 2011 07:12 AM (d2AYO)
8 years of Romney will only be marginally better than 4 more years of BtotheO. And, in terms of damage to the Conservative branding, it will be horrific.
Romney is not a Conservative. However, should he be elected, he will immediately become the Conservative torch bearer and anyone to his right will become the extreme.
Thanks, but no thanks. I'll die with my boots on.
Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2011 07:13 AM (dja/g)
Does that mean they need to be "investigated"? Clintons mention their child too but she was off-damn-limits.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 11:11 AM (5d6vv)
I'm not sure how you got from one point to the other here. Because she mentioned her foster kids (in a general way), they all deserve to be investigated...by the media?
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 07:14 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2011 07:15 AM (RD7QR)
Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life and Killer of Polar Bears at June 28, 2011 10:37 AM (OWjjx)
That was good. But seriously that map was flagrant.
Posted by: President Slap-Chop at June 28, 2011 07:15 AM (7DB+a)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 28, 2011 07:16 AM (STdkO)
Tell her that Utah winters (I'm in Utah Valley which is considered "North" Utah, but still south of Salt Lake) are much milder than Northeastern or Midwestern winters. The locals here complained when it go just below freezing. We had no problems going from SoCal to Utah.
It's dry here, so the cold is not so bone-chilling.
Southern Utah is gorgeous in the winter, if you like desert landscapes.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 07:17 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: ahem at June 28, 2011 07:19 AM (rF/ho)
I like Wyoming because of small government and taxes. But it does get cold there. I like a view of the mountains. I really do miss that here in SC.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:20 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 07:21 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:22 AM (M9Ie6)
I'm not sure how you got from one point to the other here. Because she mentioned her foster kids (in a general way), they all deserve to be investigated...by the media? Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 11:14 AM (X6akg)
Nope. Under no circumstances do I believe the media should be investigating any candidates child unless that child is an adult and has done something illegal.
HOWEVER.
1) Bachmann has to be aware of how Palin's children were treated by the MFM
2) Bachmann made a point to specifically mention 23 foster kids, several times, during the debate (not in a general way - specifically).
3) Perhaps she was baiting the press, I dunno
4) Prepare for the next accusation (not mine, the MFM): Folks usually get money from the government for taking in foster kids. So, is she a hypocrite or a money grubber?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 07:22 AM (5d6vv)
Time for a fucking reality check. Any GOP president will have to work with Dems on a budget unless we take over 60 seats in the Senate. Because if you don't pass a budget, want to know what happens, Vic?? Take a guess?
The Bush tax cuts that were just extended run out in January of 2013. No legislation is necessary for that to happen. All our taxes go up, just like the Dems want them to.
So, any GOP candidate who says they won't work with Dems is a lying asshole.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2011 07:22 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: PaleRider at June 28, 2011 07:23 AM (ITaIZ)
Should we start another conspiracy theory to aggravate Ace?
The Bilderbergers and the Trilateral Commission are gonna force Christina Hendricks to get breast reduction surgery this fall.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 28, 2011 07:23 AM (8rHXV)
The Utahns make fun of Idaho. I haven't quite figured out why yet.
There are a lot of Mormon outcasts in Idaho and Montuckey.
Idaho gets pretty cold in the Winter too doesn't it?
Most of it, yes...however, the Clearwater valley may see snow, but it rarely sticks on the ground.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2011 07:24 AM (2AasI)
Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2011 07:24 AM (4Kl5M)
But WTF does he want to work with them on - frakin' tax increases!
And no we do NOT have to go there. Sometimes I wonder about you. Are you a concern troll?
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:24 AM (M9Ie6)
That is the general area I have been looking at - specifically Worland.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:26 AM (M9Ie6)
That has already started to make the rounds.
I'm a heartless bitch, so I am always annoyed when candidates start wrapping themselves up in their kids as if it is some sort of accomplishment. All of them did it at that last debate -- except Newt.
I don't see why they want to investigate her children -- or any of the candidates' kids. I'm trying to imagine what scandal they could be involved in that would disqualify their parent for consideration. Really, I'm not coming up with anything. Even when politicians have minor kids who get into some sort of trouble, it doesn't really matter to me all that much, unless the politician uses their influence to enable the kid to get away with things without consequences.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 07:26 AM (TFxd0)
Embry-Riddle is there, I think.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 07:28 AM (TFxd0)
Now I've read it, and alas, I find it a bit less that I had hoped.
Posted by: toby928™ at June 28, 2011 07:28 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: Laughingmyasoff at June 28, 2011 07:28 AM (tkvx/)
That has already started to make the rounds.
What is funny about it also is that it patently ridiculous. A tax lawyer takes in foster children to make money?
Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that that is a damn stupid idea unless you are a crack addict in the slums who will feed them off food stamps ajnd let them starve while you rake in the cash.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:29 AM (M9Ie6)
My aunt is in NW Montana (Flathead Valley). They get a real winter, but nothing like the eastern part of the state.
Winters in the Flathead are serious, unless you are ON the lake.
75 mi. south of there is where Winter is, typically, more mild.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2011 07:29 AM (2AasI)
Only a fool would believe he or she could "work with Democrats." That worked out well for Bush and McCain.
I am pretty excited about voting for a fool.
Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at June 28, 2011 07:29 AM (qwK3S)
It didn't have to be said, especially by Mitsy.
Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2011 07:29 AM (dja/g)
My husband was raised in Utah so I asked him why they make fun of Idaho.
Here's his response:
"Because that is where all of the kooks moved to. The right wing militias and polygamists and such."
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 07:30 AM (5d6vv)
HOWEVER.
1) Bachmann has to be aware of how Palin's children were treated by the MFM
2) Bachmann made a point to specifically mention 23 foster kids, several times, during the debate (not in a general way - specifically).
3) Perhaps she was baiting the press, I dunno
4) Prepare for the next accusation (not mine, the MFM): Folks usually get money from the government for taking in foster kids. So, is she a hypocrite or a money grubber?
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch
This is called battlefield preperation. We're now of the nindset that we have to hide kids or face the expected wrath of the press. But this will happen to one side only.
Mentioning kids and that she was willing and able to raise them is not baiting. It is mentioning that one has kids.
Gary Hart responding to rumors of affairs by daring reporters to catch him at it is somewhere between baiting and sticking your dick into a chipper.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 28, 2011 07:32 AM (6rX0K)
Some in the GOP would call that a tax increase. I don't.
We need to reduce the deficit to zero. The Bush tax cuts should never have been passed at the same time we started two wars. If you want a war, you should have to pay for it.
Of course Obama makes Bush look like a piker. And now we're in the mess we're in. I would prefer we balance the budget on spending alone, but I don't see how we can.
The point is, if we don't get 60 seats in the Senate, we'll have to get some Dems to go along with whatever we want to do. Ignoring that is silliness.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2011 07:33 AM (f9c2L)
Posted by: The Schwalbe: © at June 28, 2011 07:33 AM (UU0OF)
We need tax reform, vic. That would bring in extra revenues. Get rid of all the subsidies. Treat all income the same.
And then what?
P.S.: If tax revenues go up because of legalities and not economic growth--it IS a tax hike.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 07:37 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2011 07:37 AM (f9c2L)
The Congresswoman just introduced a bill that would stop federal funding for the House and Senate budget committees as well as for the leadership offices in any year they failed to pass a budget.
...Since April 2009, Congresswoman Buerkle notes, “the Senate Budget Committee has spent more than $12 million of taxpayer money and the government has added more than $2.6 trillion to the debt.
The Senate’s failure to comply with the law and do their job is irresponsible,” Rep. Buerkle says. “By not presenting any plan to address the out of control debt and deficit the Senate is contributing to the risk of a national financial crisis.”
Posted by: '80sBaby at June 28, 2011 07:37 AM (pG1Fd)
Some in the GOP would call that a tax increase. I don't.
We need to reduce the deficit to zero. The Bush tax cuts should never have been passed at the same time we started two wars. If you want a war, you should have to pay for it.
Of course Obama makes Bush look like a piker. And now we're in the mess we're in. I would prefer we balance the budget on spending alone, but I don't see how we can.
The point is, if we don't get 60 seats in the Senate, we'll have to get some Dems to go along with whatever we want to do. Ignoring that is silliness.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry
I like how you gin up the additional forms of revenue (yeah; raising the rate people pay is a tax increase. Go figure) and childishly presume that it will be used for debt alleviation and not on a coked-up monkey cowboy poet.
That's sweet. No wonder Illinois is going down the toilet
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 28, 2011 07:38 AM (6rX0K)
Fix a sammich to eat for lunch and come back turn on the news for an update while eating. Every damn news channel on has Casey to-be-damned Anthony on!
Who gives a shit about this damn trial! It is not national news. Let FL try her and roast her ass if she is guilty but quit jamming it down our throats day after day.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:39 AM (M9Ie6)
I watched the debates and she didn't just "mention" the kids.
Multiple times, she said she had taken in 23 foster kids.
I remember being a little annoyed by it because, to me, it came off as some kind of moral superiority thing, like 23 was better than 5 or 6. But that's MHO.
Again, she was specific and said it several times.
If she had said "I have foster kids" and moved on, that would be "mentioning".
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 07:39 AM (5d6vv)
Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2011 07:40 AM (4Kl5M)
Who gives a shit about this damn trial! It is not national news. Let FL try her and roast her ass if she is guilty but quit jamming it down our throats day after day.
It's "sexy". Not in a sexual way, that's sick, but sexy in that people get sucked into the gory and horrific details and thereby boosts ratings. And it doesn't hurt that the entire family seems to be some kind of Jerry Springer spawn from hell.
And no, I haven't been following it just because the subject matter sickens me.
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 07:41 AM (5d6vv)
Posted by: The Schwalbe: © at June 28, 2011 11:33 AM (UU0OF)
Wow cool. Did you find the language barrier difficult? I don't speak Australian.
Posted by: King Putt at June 28, 2011 07:42 AM (Rn2kl)
Gee, thanks, Bill Maher. The origin of Christianity is Christ.
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 07:43 AM (uaEZS)
Wow cool. Did you find the language barrier difficult? I don't speak Australian.
Posted by: King Putt at June 28, 2011 11:42 AM (Rn2kl)
If you speak Austrian you can get by in Australia.
Posted by: Hussein the Plumber at June 28, 2011 07:44 AM (jx2j9)
_________
It's probably the Porsche.
Posted by: Anachronda doesn't own a Porsche at June 28, 2011 07:44 AM (FzhYM)
Again, she was specific and said it several times.
If she had said "I have foster kids" and moved on, that would be "mentioning".
Agree on all points. That said, it is not the job of the media to now go apeshit creeezy and look up any and all documentation regarding these children, with the obvious intent of trying to prove Bachmann was a poor foster parent.
King Putt, while a mere state senator, on several occasions supported legislation that advocated abandoning to die children that were born despite abortion attempts. The media were silent about this during his cruise to presidential victory.
Now suddenly the media are the self appointed protectors/watchdogs for child foster care and/or safety. Riiiiiiight.
It is to scream, it is to puke.
Posted by: Zombie Johny Cash at June 28, 2011 07:45 AM (XyjRQ)
Are you familiar with the concept of the "Laffer curve?"
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 28, 2011 07:45 AM (FkKjr)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 07:45 AM (Xm1aB)
I remember being a little annoyed by it because, to me, it came off as some kind of moral superiority thing, like 23 was better than 5 or 6. But that's MHO.
Again, she was specific and said it several times.
If she had said "I have foster kids" and moved on, that would be "mentioning".
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry,
Raising kids is an accomplishment. Ask any feminist, and watch them squirm.
Raising them without resorting to brutality, neglect, or illegal aliens to do it is an even greater accomplishment.
Raising kids that would otherwise be at the tender mercy of a self-interested bureaucracy that often doesn't know the location or vital signs of their official reason for existenece is an accomplishment bordering on deliverance from the desert.
And yes, one might leave home and commit a heinous crime. Unless you can prove one of the above, that act may have nothing to do with their upbringing.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 28, 2011 07:46 AM (6rX0K)
What's your version of serious? She grew up in central North Dakota.
I live in Montana. About 75 mi. south of your Aunt.
The difference between where she is now and NoDak is a constant 40+mi. of wind. Like I said. If you are close to the lake, you have an advantage, but Winter in the Kalispell is real.
On occasion, the Chinook help keep it mild for a few weeks of any given year...but it is nothing like the Clearwater Valley of Idaho, or the Bitterroot Valley of Montana, up there.
Also. Bears. Brown ones.
Hate those things.
Posted by: garrett at June 28, 2011 07:47 AM (SdgAQ)
That's what the majority is telling the minority of Coptics over there, as if there's yet a choice. What became of the Egyptian Priest bombarded the other day by rioting Muslims?
Interesting trivia, the handsome and talented Omar Sharif was born and raised Coptic Christian before converting to Islam. I like his acting as much as I do Sean Connery's -- the other masculine star. Beyond early credits in Behold a Pale Horse, Lawrence of Arabia, Dr. Zhivago and Funny Girl, you'll find that The 13th Warrior and Hidalgo prove his mesmerizing eyes do not dim with maturity.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2011 07:49 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 28, 2011 07:50 AM (STdkO)
Posted by: toby928™ generating laughable vague conversation fodder at June 28, 2011 07:50 AM (GTbGH)
1. Tax increases have NEVER worked to eliminate the budget deficits in the U.S. Every time the taxes have been increased the spending was increased and the economy tanked.
2. Taxes as a function of GDP will always settle at around 18% if the congress leaves the economy alone long enough for it to settle. The only way to increase revenues is to increase the "real GDP".
3. When Democrats want to increase taxes, and that is ANYTHING that increases tax revenues other than from the economy what they are really saying is we want more tax and spend. In other words we want some more full bore socialism until we have pure communist control of this country.
Those are the facts. You are ignoring them. Also, I take it you are a Romney supporter.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:51 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: nickless at June 28, 2011 07:51 AM (MMC8r)
Posted by: Honey Badger at June 28, 2011 07:54 AM (GvYeG)
Hey, Gabe, you know else doesn't hurt when you're posting a quote? Quote marks! Attribution tends not to hurt, either.
But kudos for the "classical education" snobbery! Everyone with a classical education knows the whole of Chesterton!
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 07:54 AM (uaEZS)
okay, ergie malor
Get off Gabe on this one. There was more that a little unfair assuming going on.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 07:55 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 07:56 AM (uaEZS)
I guess we know where at least one of them came from.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:56 AM (M9Ie6)
It's not a matter of there being only two masculine stars; It's a matter of how fast I can shoot them both between the eyes with one shot.
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at June 28, 2011 07:56 AM (wOaLi)
I agree, these perpetual flame wars get old after a while.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:57 AM (M9Ie6)
It's cheesy but kind of fun, and a nice relief from Mother Angelica's knuckle busting.
Holy smoke (no, literally)--is she still around?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 07:57 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: toby928™ generating laughable vague conversation fodder at June 28, 2011 07:58 AM (GTbGH)
Posted by: toby928™ generating laughable vague conversation fodder at June 28, 2011 07:59 AM (GTbGH)
It's fine, they all (well, most of them do) do it. I guess they expect some sort of blanket "character" plus score for it. But, really, I would happily vote for a single person or a childless person. It is not a factor for me at all. The only thing it can bring is a negative if the kid has gone completely off the rails and there is some sign it's because the parents did a poor job parenting.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:00 AM (TFxd0)
Holy smoke (no, literally)--is she still around?
She's still alive, but she doesn't broadcast anymore. They still rerun her show, though, as "Mother Angelica Classics." And she also prays the Rosary every day several times, too. Those are also reruns.
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 08:01 AM (uaEZS)
Posted by: fluffy at June 28, 2011 08:01 AM (4Kl5M)
What qualifications for the Presidency does raising children provide?
I think it gives some pretty good preparation for dealing with North Korea.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 08:03 AM (B+qrE)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:03 AM (M9Ie6)
And, yeah, I agree that when Dems are in power, tax increases go all to new spending. They don't even need tax increases any longer to have new spending.. now they just put in on credit!
But when the GOP gets into power again, Dems will be able to block everything we want to do just as we are blocking much of what they want now. At some point both parties will have to work with each other.
Let's create a fair tax system without all the giveaways. That would be good enough for me on the revenue side.
Then we have to start cutting.. entitlements, discretionary to shrink the size of government drastically, defense. All of it.
I also think we need a balanced budget amendment so we don;t have to go through this shit all the time.
Can Romney do that? I don't know. But I don't have a lot of confidence any of the others could do it either.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at June 28, 2011 08:03 AM (f9c2L)
More than is not claiming better than. I was just surprised to hear how many children the Bachmann family included. I thought ours was large growing up, 7 kids plus two foster children.
Women who successfully raise a large family of children do put out more effort than those who successfully raise a small family of children. That's not saying that raising any child is easy.
Why be annoyed that she successfully helped so many individual children by providing them with a reliable mother, father and home? There's no guilt trip Bachmann's projecting onto other women who've smaller families.
In contrast with Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann actually brought troubled children into her home to give them love and stability. Whereas, without just cause, Rick Perry illegally authorized the State authorities to forcibly remove hundreds of children from their family community with no housing, let alone emotional security, causing the children (and parents) trauma. Why? Perry is left with Clinton's excuse, "Because I could." Rick Perry refused to meet with grieving parents during the process. The courts determined that the State of Texas had abused authority in that case which was based on false testimony from a known liar.
Family Values and what candidates do in their promotion matters to social conservatives. Tolerance matters to social liberals. The Republican Party "big tent" still feigns to represent the spectrum.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2011 08:03 AM (lpWVn)
Posted by: Vic the contradictor at June 28, 2011 08:05 AM (GIeoW)
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I didn't see the whole debate, but she brought up the X children and XX foster children in the very beginning, when they all (except Newt) did. It was in the introduce yourself in a couple of sentences section.
It's gross that the media is going to dig into them, and I think there really may be some blow-back that they experience from the biological parents of the children involved or from the kids themselves (depending on their ages), but it is entirely predictable.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:05 AM (TFxd0)
The talks are broken, can't be fixed, Obama is disinterested, need a savior, everyone asking for Obama to engage.
Suddenly, from out of nowhere, Super-BtotheO flys in to save the day. His "leadership" will lead to a deal, the fact that he was absent for weeks and months will be glossed over by the MFM, and he'll be given 100% of the credit for fighting off disaster. He wasn't "absent" he was "contemplative". GENUIS!!!1111!11
It's the right thing to do, getting a debt-limit deal done, as long as the R's get all of the spending cuts with none of the taxes. And, they have rightly been pointing out that Obama is awol, as usual. But, if/when he does show up, a deal will get done and he'll make a speech where every sentence begins with "I".
Knowing this, the R's need to hold out for every ounce of cuts imaginable and not budge 1 inch on the taxes. They won't get the credit in any case, so they had better get all of the deal.
Posted by: The Hammer at June 28, 2011 08:06 AM (rGP52)
Bullcrap, you purist!
He's King of the dickholes. He is their king.
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 08:06 AM (uaEZS)
What qualifications for the Presidency does raising children provide?
I think it gives some pretty good preparation for dealing with North Korea.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 12:03 PM (B+qrE)
Let alone the Democrats, media, and much of their constituents.
(Providing, of course, the children are spoiled rotten)
Posted by: Randy at June 28, 2011 08:06 AM (vI8R6)
So he wins.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:06 AM (TFxd0)
I haven't called anyone a RINO in a long long time. I haven't even called Romney a RINO. I did challenge him being a Republican though.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:07 AM (M9Ie6)
He's an economic refugee from America's hat.
Posted by: toby928™ generating laughable vague conversation fodder at June 28, 2011 08:09 AM (GTbGH)
So he wins.
Posted by: Y-not
And Hilary said that it took a village to raise a child. So using that 'logic', Bachmann should be some sort of village elder. And I'm sure that the Left will give her credit for this.
Posted by: Blue Hen at June 28, 2011 08:09 AM (6rX0K)
I didn't see the whole debate, but .....
I didn't see it at all but I found this the next day. It is actually better than having to watch it
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:09 AM (M9Ie6)
http://tinyurl.com/43c7csv
Should be a sidebar item, IMO (hint hint)
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 08:10 AM (5d6vv)
Posted by: joncelli at June 28, 2011 08:12 AM (RD7QR)
I am not really more annoyed at Bachmann than any of them over this. I do not think -- and did not imply -- she was trying to lay a guilt trip on anyone. I am annoyed at all of them for wrapping themselves in their babies/kids. It's not germane.
And here's the problem. You talk about the merits of successfully raising kids. So who determines what is successful? That is what leaves the door open for the media to investigate.
So I would prefer that none of the candidates go there.
BTW, I do think she was looking for extra credit by pointing out that most of her children were foster kids. I think that's a risky strategy given how screwed up the foster care system is. I'm sorry, but I know of several situations where the foster parents have taken on more than they can handle and the kids are suffering as a result.
Anyway, why go there?
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:12 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:12 AM (M9Ie6)
Raise a teenage girl, then get back to me on this. ;o)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 08:13 AM (X6akg)
It's the right thing to do, getting a debt-limit deal done
Why? We know dems see a credit limit as a balance to be spent, and can't count on holding discipline in the House forever. Better to take our medicine now, even if the public doesn't like it.
Posted by: Randy at June 28, 2011 08:14 AM (vI8R6)
So, is this why Palin is supposed to be unelectable?
/ducks
Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at June 28, 2011 08:14 AM (5d6vv)
Posted by: Me at June 28, 2011 08:15 AM (nVLlM)
Feeling lucky? Well punk, are you?
Unforgiven is his masterpiece that I love. I like his movies except when he flatters the PC Hollywood revisionism of WWII, war against Japan. Sure, there are two sides to every coin. But painting the conquest of Iwo Jima as a cakewalk for the racist Americans was inaccurate given the reality of circumstances. That our nations decided after Japan's unconditional surrender to get over WWII is what deserves a movie to show kids these days. And it wouldn't hurt to illustrate the evolution of the so-called "Ugly American" in movies, either, so long as it's not biased either way -- leave the audience to go figure.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2011 08:15 AM (lpWVn)
Did you see the later post with the link to the actual paper and my short summary?
It is scary as hell.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:16 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 08:16 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 12:13 PM (X6akg)
NO DAMN DOUBT! Mine just graduated from HS and is off to college in 5 weeks, Thank you Jesus!
Posted by: Sgt. Fury at June 28, 2011 08:16 AM (LXPet)
But kudos for the "classical education" snobbery! Everyone with a classical education knows the whole of Chesterton!
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 11:54 AM (uaEZS)
Classical education = I was told there would be no math.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:17 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:18 AM (M9Ie6)
Though it is scary that Romney is in the lead.
Posted by: blaster at June 28, 2011 09:17 AM (l5dj7)
Interesting how two people can listen to the same program and come away with two different views. Here is the you tube of last night and the entire show is here.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:20 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:21 AM (M9Ie6)
Raise a teenage girl, then get back to me on this. ;o)
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 12:13 PM (X6akg)
Heck, and try raising a Teenage son to be a MAN in this society... not easy either...
But my Twins, Son and Daughter, are now 20 and on their own...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 28, 2011 08:22 AM (NtXW4)
Why? Why not. Evidently, that is a part of Michele Bachmann that matters to her own identity in life. I don't care one way or another.
But you somehow think that Bachmann having given foster children a home within her family is risky because others screw up? Go figure. pff Your antagonism is off base, as if the Bachmanns took on more than they could handle and their kids suffered as a result of their human compassion and charity, sharing love and making a huge difference for the better in so many lives that otherwise could easily have been ruined within that "screwed up" CPS.
Posted by: maverick muse at June 28, 2011 08:22 AM (lpWVn)
(he is spoiled rotten BTW)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:24 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Me at June 28, 2011 08:25 AM (nVLlM)
Lynch's reasoning was odd and incoherent.
He said that NH has a very high voter turnout. I don't know what that has to do with the issue.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 08:25 AM (G/zuv)
I thought he did that last week????
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:25 AM (M9Ie6)
It's a good, enjoyable movie, but it's not what people keep saying it is. For example, when it came out, critics raved about how it's a deconstruction of the Eastwood western archetype, because it focuses on the negative consequences of a violent life.
But does it, really? In the end, what consequences does Eastwood's character actually suffer? It seems to me that he profits fairly well from his violence. And that's fine, but why pretend otherwise?
Posted by: Kensington at June 28, 2011 08:25 AM (uaEZS)
Because, y'know, not everyone has the time to memorize Chesterton chapter and verse.
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 28, 2011 08:26 AM (GBXon)
Greek churches were all run by druids. Don't go all LGF here.
Don't do it.
Posted by: flavius at June 28, 2011 08:26 AM (lH9Ln)
Posted by: SurferDoc at June 28, 2011 11:50 AM (STdkO)
Didn't that guy from Arizona keep saying the phrase "cross the aisle". That along with his 100 years comment sure got him another senate term....
If it's Romney I'm not voting for the top line, I'll vote for everything else just let everyone else elect the president. A vote for Romney is like going from the frying pan into the fire.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:26 AM (k1rwm)
Maybe he threatened to, last week. But I heard it this morning like it was fresh news.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 08:27 AM (G/zuv)
I predict some entertaining and funny snark about the unfunny man Maher.
Posted by: sTevo at June 28, 2011 08:27 AM (8esho)
I don't know one way or the other if they are good foster parents. Do you? If so, how do you know?
The foster care system is screwed up. That's simply a fact.
There are good foster parents and bad foster parents. I'd guess there are more bad than good, but that could simply be because of the stories and cases I happen to have heard.
There are good parents and bad parents, too.
Being educated or wealthy or religious does not guarantee that you are a good parent. So if I am going to judge the merits of someone's parenting - foster or otherwise - the only way I can do that is by ascertaining what the situation is for the kids.
Hence, if a candidate decides to bring up their parenting as a factor we should consider in an election, which all except Newt did, they have opened themselves up to a line of questioning that I think can be hurtful to the kids and a waste of everyone's time.
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:27 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 08:27 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: Color Me Slow... or something at June 28, 2011 08:28 AM (wOaLi)
The quadrivium includes math.
Our school taught us each branch (usual high school overview) up through calculus.
Posted by: '80sBaby at June 28, 2011 08:28 AM (pG1Fd)
In honor of the College Democrats video:
Oooohhh, I'm a Democrat and I'm OK.
I drink all night and I sleep all day.
Yesssssss, He's a Democrat and he's OK.
He drinks all night and he sleeps all day.
I'm filled with hate, I troll some blogs
I live in my mom's basement.
Each day I'll watch Jon Stewart
And won't pay any rent.
He's filled with hate, he trolls some blogs
He lives in his mom's basement.
Each day he'll watch Jon Stewart
And not pay any rent
I'm a Democrat and I'm OK.
He's a Democrat and he's OK.
I drink all night and I sleep all day.
He drinks all night and he sleeps all day.
I'm filled with hate, donuts and chips
And every night I would
Put on those clean white bedsheets
And a pointy Klansman's hood
He's filled with hate, donuts and chips
And every night he would
Put on those clean white bedsheets
And a pointy Klansman's hood?
I'm filled with hate, I burn the cross
And rally with the herd
I wish I'd been a Kleagle
Just like dear Robert Byrd
He's filled with hate, he burns the cross
And rally's with the herd?
He's a Democrat and he's OK.
He drinks all night and he sleeps all day.
Yesssssss, He's a Democrat and he's OK.
He drinks all night and he sleeps all day.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:29 AM (T0NGe)
Report link at 100
Summary post at 182
Yeah, read 182 it is bad bad
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:31 AM (M9Ie6)
The quadrivium includes math.
Our school taught us each branch (usual high school overview) up through calculus.
Posted by: '80sBaby at June 28, 2011 12:28 PM (pG1Fd)
Yeah...not really so much anymore.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:31 AM (T0NGe)
(he is spoiled rotten BTW)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 12:24 PM (M9Ie6)
Vic, I have a very close friend. He is the second child of four and his mom had a tough time raising all of them while his dad worked two sometimes three jobs. He is a wonderful man and he credits the time he spent with his grand parents, particularly his grandfather with the man he is today. He says had his grandfather not stepped in and taken him to his house when his mother was crashing, he would be like his brother (his brother is becoming a success now but he's had many many ups and downs and hard lessons learned).
His grand father didn't realize the impact he had on my friend, he's watching from heaven though and probably really proud.
It's the dumb little sacrifices you make, vic, when you think it really doesn't matter, that really count.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:32 AM (k1rwm)
Ace has been ewoknapped.
Or he's sleeping a Val-U-Rite bender off. With two hookers.
He possibly drowned in the worlds largest pudding cup.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 28, 2011 08:33 AM (1hM1d)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 08:33 AM (Xm1aB)
Hey, Dave--assuming anti-Christian bias about every damn thing pisses me off.
So, stalemate. Move on, bwana.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at June 28, 2011 08:34 AM (B+qrE)
This was the '00s. My youngest brother graduated in 2009 and they were still doing this.
Posted by: '80sBaby at June 28, 2011 08:35 AM (pG1Fd)
I'll think about it some more for next school year. But one thing I have found now. We laugh about old codgers and "get off my lawn" but I have found I lose my temper much more quickly now than I did 40 years ago and that doesn't help.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:36 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:36 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: '80sBaby at June 28, 2011 12:35 PM (pG1Fd)
Ah, high school. Private?
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:37 AM (T0NGe)
From an old article in 2007:
The article's conclusion regarding "the question of Mitt Romney and evangelical voters" recognized that Romney might be the most attractive candidate on important issues like abortion and gay marriage, and reminded readers that Americans are electing a president, not a pastor. Still, the piece noted that a Mormon president might increase the church's presence and aid its missionary efforts, a chilling prospect for Southern Baptists who adamantly oppose Mormonism's claims. When the time comes for Republican Southern Baptists to choose a candidate to back in the primary, they will be thinking as much of Sunday school lessons and church educational programs about Mormonism as they will of competing policy proposals.
Change the date and it is still current. I don't think Mitt can be elected w/o the SBC. Sure, you may get a small percentage, but not the majority.
Posted by: sTevo at June 28, 2011 08:38 AM (8esho)
That would eliminate the spoilage influence.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:38 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 12:38 PM (M9Ie6)
As would refrigeration.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:39 AM (T0NGe)
One of the funniest exchanges I had with my friend about his grandfather was when he told me how he would lose his temper with my friend and vociferously (even in public) yell at him in Italian.
I responded "oh wow, I didn't know you speak Italian"
He responded "I don't, that's the funny part, it didn't stop him that I didn't speak or understand it, he just yelled and we moved along"
now that's funny
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:40 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Me at June 28, 2011 08:40 AM (nVLlM)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:43 AM (M9Ie6)
I gather that the rest of the country (outside MA & RI) doesn't give a darn about Whitey Bulger?
It's still big news up here.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 08:43 AM (G/zuv)
Yesterday I did a little internet digging on Bachmann because of the trashing she was subjected to from Chris "I am not a POS" Wallace. Interestingly on Wikipedia her bio has been updated in the last week or so with a lot of negative innuendo.
This isn't surprising as Wikipedia is a liberal tool and is anything but honest. But it is a good starting point if you want to track down references. However, of these recent reference entries there was only one I could even track back to it's source and that was from the Daily Beast. This is how they wage their slander war.
I did find it interesting that the foster kids were all girls with eating disorders who were taken in over an eight year period in the 90's. A pretty monumental undertaking if you ask me and one anchored in charity and love. This is obviously important to her and she rightly touts it. And at this stage of the campaign she is doing exactly what a candidate should be doing - personalizing herself with the American public. If you are a political junkie like many of us morons here, you should expect to hear this - on multiple occasions.
Something I like about Michele and makes her a strong candidate IMHO, is the fact that she holds office in the most liberal district in a very liberal state. How does a strong conservative win election and reelection all the time in that kind of atmosphere? In 2008 the commiecrats pumped more than $10 million into her district race to defeat her, her opponent outspending her 10 to 1, and whe still won. Apparently she knows what she's doing having been inculcated in the bosom of liberalism.
One thing our candidate, whoever that is, is going to have to do is beat the Zero and the American Pravda cult at their own game. Trying to appeal to the electorate as Zero-lite is not going to cut it - IMO.
Posted by: 57 states at June 28, 2011 08:44 AM (sMgrb)
I gather that the rest of the country (outside MA & RI) doesn't give a darn about Whitey Bulger?
It's still big news up here.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 12:43 PM (G/zuv)
No. First, the crimes happened before I was born. Second, they really never made national impact. Third, he was tied into Democrat politics, so any national story would have to have that as a major backdrop.
Hence, it's not a national story.
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:45 AM (T0NGe)
Posted by: Me at June 28, 2011 12:40 PM (nVLlM)
McCain had ties to Soros groups???? Even I never found that.
That is why it was never challenged.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:45 AM (M9Ie6)
Ancient white gangster finally run to ground for things he did decades ago that pale in comparison to what elected gangsters are still doing to us now.
Yeah. Sorry, not that big a deal for some of us.
Posted by: AoSHQ's *second* worst commenter, DarkLord© at June 28, 2011 08:45 AM (GBXon)
Is there an AOSHQ Staff Meeting or Cob-logger Retreat? Its like we have the joint to ourselves.
Anybody found the beer yet?
Posted by: glowing blue meat at June 28, 2011 08:46 AM (K/USr)
It's still big news up here.
Yeah, that an Casey Anthony are taking up half the news updates on Fox.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:46 AM (M9Ie6)
The one thing I love about Bachman is when she gave her own response, you remember, when they said she didn't look at the last minute CNN camera. I loved that, it showed her boldness and her seriously not playing by the rules. apparently they want you to think she alienated a lot of her fellow republicans because of that, I don't buy that.
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 08:47 AM (k1rwm)
Whitey is a legend in MA. A lotta the stuff you see gangsters do and say in movies are from Whitey.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 08:48 AM (G/zuv)
Anybody found the beer yet?
Posted by: glowing blue meat at June 28, 2011 12:46 PM (K/USr)
How did the beer thread end up last night?
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:48 AM (M9Ie6)
Wow, on F&F this morning Stewart Varney reports that CA is getting the Oakland Bay Bridge built in China and shipped here in order to avoid Davis-Bacon which would require that it be built by Union members. It is $500M cheaper to build it in China and ship it here because of Davis-Bacon.
Another one for "The Mother of All Repeal" bills from Bachmann.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 07:00 AM (M9Ie6)
--Another example of liberal hypocrisy. They want to sound all pro-union, but when it comes to the rubber hitting the road, they'd rather outsource to Red China and spend extra money on transportation than admit that their policies are wasteful and wrong.
Posted by: logprof at June 28, 2011 08:49 AM (BP6Z1)
Refreshing.
Posted by: Waterhouse's Wimbledon Update at June 28, 2011 08:49 AM (IdoRk)
Anybody found the beer yet?
Posted by: glowing blue meat at June 28, 2011 12:46 PM (K/USr)
We found it. Just don't touch the stuff with the note from Ace.
Posted by: Hedgehog at June 28, 2011 08:49 AM (Rn2kl)
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:50 AM (T0NGe)
Vic, have you tried the 'my house, my rules' gambit? My great aunt did that very effectively with me. She lived two blocks away so I saw her alot when I was a kid and I doubt she ever realized how much influence she had over me. Hell, even I didn't realize until I was grown up.
Posted by: Retread at June 28, 2011 08:51 AM (G+7cD)
for instance, Whitey owned a liquor store in Boston.
Whitey acquired this store by going to the owner's home and demanding, on the threat of his baby's life, that he sign over the store.
That's the stuff you see in movies.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 08:51 AM (G/zuv)
Refreshing.
Posted by: Waterhouse's Wimbledon Update at June 28, 2011 12:49 PM (IdoRk)
I would like to see the womens' tennis grunts added to every video of Teh Won giving a teleprompter speech. When he turns his head: "uh". When he turns again: "uh".
Posted by: AmishDude at June 28, 2011 08:52 AM (T0NGe)
for instance, Whitey owned a liquor store in Boston.
Whitey acquired this store by going to the owner's home and demanding, on the threat of his baby's life, that he sign over the store.
That's the stuff you see in movies.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 12:51 PM (G/zuv)
Amateur.
Posted by: Barack Obama at June 28, 2011 08:52 AM (T0NGe)
Yeah, my daughter even agrees with that. But it is hard to reverse 8 years of non-control with control after school 5 days a week.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:52 AM (M9Ie6)
She knows I hang out on this site and she IS at least a conservative. She probably would not like me discussing this in front of the entire world.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 08:56 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Pecos Bill at June 28, 2011 08:57 AM (j84s0)
Posted by: Me at June 28, 2011 08:58 AM (nVLlM)
Good afternoon, good people.
I bet this comment will result in a new thread being put up within minutes.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 28, 2011 08:58 AM (ud5dN)
Which way worked better in practice (given a definition of "worked better" as "gave the most people the maximum control and comfort in their own lives") is left as an exercise to the reader.
Posted by: filbert at June 28, 2011 08:58 AM (smvTK)
Posted by: Y-not at June 28, 2011 08:58 AM (TFxd0)
Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 28, 2011 08:59 AM (yMmkt)
Just don't touch the stuff with the note from Ace.
*errrp* Oh, now you tell me. Not that I would have listened, any way.
It's good to be Sith.
Posted by: I R A Darth Aggie © at June 28, 2011 08:59 AM (1hM1d)
LOL, sTevo you missed my post from early this morning. They are denying that now.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 09:00 AM (M9Ie6)
LOL, sTevo you missed my post from early this morning. They are denying that now.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 01:00 PM (M9Ie6
Yeah.... because we know the Governemnt would never do such a... shitty... thing...
/runs out of thread giggling
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 28, 2011 09:03 AM (NtXW4)
Whitey Bulger dick jokes are too nuanced. Now if his name was Whitey Weiner then it would be a national story.
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 28, 2011 09:05 AM (tf9Ne)
Posted by: Cherry π at June 28, 2011 09:07 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: filbert at June 28, 2011 09:09 AM (smvTK)
I'll do the heavy lifting. here is the boobs part.
Posted by: sTevo at June 28, 2011 09:10 AM (8esho)
Posted by: George Orwell at June 28, 2011 09:10 AM (yMmkt)
Posted by: Dang at June 28, 2011 09:10 AM (TXKVh)
Posted by: t-bird at June 28, 2011 09:11 AM (FcR7P)
Refreshing.
Posted by: Waterhouse's Wimbledon Update
Local radio station here has done a "pron or tennis" segment before. The grunts of the girls in tennis and in pron. sometimes it's very hard to tell the difference.
Posted by: todler at June 28, 2011 09:12 AM (fPOY0)
oddly enough, AoS is the only blog/site I visit
I don't even go to Drudge anymore. I listen to local news radio and read AoS.
Posted by: soothie sales at June 28, 2011 09:14 AM (G/zuv)
(Sorry for not ignoring the inflammatory statement, but I just couldn't let that one slide. And I'm not even religious, ffs!)
Posted by: Beth at June 28, 2011 09:15 AM (5NfIh)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 09:16 AM (M9Ie6)
http://tinyurl.com/4yfczvg
Hot. For a truck stop. An especially seedy truck stop. That smells like a Taco Bell™ burp and Clorox™.
Posted by: Dang at June 28, 2011 09:16 AM (TXKVh)
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 01:16 PM (M9Ie6)
At 102 go talk to your wife about Wyoming again.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 09:18 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: i'd rather be surfing at June 28, 2011 09:18 AM (c4tXj)
At 102 go talk to your wife about Wyoming again.
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 01:18 PM (X6akg)
She would just bring up the -30 in the Winter. Besides we busted 102 last week.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)
Posted by: Ace.Locator at June 28, 2011 09:23 AM (gQLr2)
Maybe that's what we need for a candidate since we have the "rents too high" guy running as an R. We need a "the temps too high guy".....
Wait we have Al Gore, and Romney for that.
Posted by: Vic at June 28, 2011 09:24 AM (M9Ie6)
you know what was a really good show that didn't last?
Young Indiana Jones.
put it on your netflix q
Posted by: soothiewing plover at June 28, 2011 09:24 AM (G/zuv)
Posted by: i'd rather be surfing at June 28, 2011 09:25 AM (c4tXj)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 09:26 AM (Xm1aB)
That whole family is fucked up and a beautiful little girl is dead. Give her the needle.
Posted by: mpfs at June 28, 2011 09:27 AM (iYbLN)
I think we should have the "I could pay my rent if the taxes weren't so d*mn high" candidate.
Posted by: Nighthawk at June 28, 2011 09:27 AM (OtQXp)
Posted by: i'd rather be surfing at June 28, 2011 09:28 AM (c4tXj)
ok i get that the east coast is humid....i lived in md for 7 yrs...........it's going to be 114 today.... was 115 in the shade at 6pm last evening......you people don't know hot..........and i don't want to hear about the "dry heat"......... anything over 105 is hot.... dry or humid....and az has monsoons which last thru august and believe me monsoons make it humid.............:p
Posted by: phoenixgirl at June 28, 2011 09:29 AM (Cm66w)
I blame Bush.
Posted by: irongrampa at June 28, 2011 09:29 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Dave at June 28, 2011 09:30 AM (Xm1aB)
Posted by: irongrampa at June 28, 2011 09:32 AM (ud5dN)
Posted by: Cherry π at June 28, 2011 09:32 AM (OhYCU)
Posted by: mpfs at June 28, 2011 09:32 AM (iYbLN)
Posted by: i'd rather be surfing at June 28, 2011 01:25 PM (c4tXj)
Modern Europe isn't my thing, but are you aware that Thomas Jefferson listed Algernon Sidney as one of the three most important influences on him in the area of political theory? John Locke isn't even on the list - Jefferson loved Locke, but as an epistomologist, not a political writer. Yet, there has been no reprint of Sidney's work since the nineteenth century as far as I can tell.
The importance of the Vindiciae Contra Tyrranos on the Founders is being increasing recognized, I believe, though I am not up on the current research in that area.
Posted by: Grey Fox at June 28, 2011 09:33 AM (K7hz4)
Posted by: curious at June 28, 2011 09:33 AM (k1rwm)
Posted by: Cherry π at June 28, 2011 09:34 AM (OhYCU)
I was just having a little fun with the mates captain. I keed. I keed.
Posted by: Cherry π at June 28, 2011 09:35 AM (OhYCU)
Think He was trying to avoid a ticket for traveling in the fast lane solo?
in seriousness, poor man , his car breaks down on frreway ,He gets hit going for help. I guess I won't complain about my bad year .
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2011 09:36 AM (h+qn8)
Hung jury Posted by: Dave
Watch juror number 4. She is a problem.
Posted by: mpfs at June 28, 2011 09:36 AM (iYbLN)
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Posted by: Ronster at June 28, 2011 09:38 AM (O3izx)
A story from 03 about a woman who hit a guy sending him through the windsheild but surviving. Then parking in her garage and letting him die.
http://www.wftv.com/news/2295744/detail.html
Posted by: Buzzsaw at June 28, 2011 09:40 AM (tf9Ne)
http://tinyurl.com/wq6tn
Posted by: Tami at June 28, 2011 09:42 AM (X6akg)
Posted by: willow at June 28, 2011 09:43 AM (h+qn8)
I went to a Medieval reenactment this weekend (SCA) and had a great old time. On Saturday night, two people started talking politics. They started off talking about how they considered themseleves as 'middle of the road', and lamented the rise of 'polarization. They then launched into a list of politicans and political figures (all Republicans of course) that they "hated, because they were evil".
I noted the irony. I then noted that 21th century politics sucked during a Medieval reenactment.
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