1 That's a stupid quote.

2

Posted this yesterday on one of the poll threads but it turned out to be a dead thread.

Latest PPP Republican primary poll for SC from yesterday with favorability/unfavorability ratings:

Romney - 27% (56/27)

Palin –18% (60/33)

Herman Cain – 12% (41/20)

Newt Gingrich –12% (37/44)

Michele Bachmann – 9% (45/16)

Ron Paul – 7% (38/31)

Tim Pawlenty – 4% (33/24)

Jon Huntsman – 2% (10/20)

New PPP poll for SC (sampled 1000 SC voters who normally vote in the Republican primary)

They made mention of how much Newt had dropped in the last several polls in the favorability ratings and how it spelled bad news for him. They also mentioned that Cain and Bachman were the only two candidates with momentum in SC. They said RomneyÂ’s rating only went up because Huck dropped out.  They also said T-Paw and Huntsman were dropping as people found out more about them.

Frankly I am surprised that Newt did as well as he did given the shit storm he has created in the past few months and his infamous couch sitting episode. I think it tells me that people really are not paying attention right now and we are still seeing nothing more than name recognition.

 Also, keep in mind that PPP is a Dem polling outfit.

3

It is clear that VDH was right on the Dems 2012 strategy

They are doubling down on the worn out race card.  They must be desperate. Or it is as I said the other day, they have to run on everything but their record which has been an utter and complete failure.

4

Here we go again, look out Morons we been ratted out here

Like the 2010 budget where they kept doing the short term deals and then settled for a jar of stale peanuts and a kick in the pants, we are about to get the same deal on the debt ceiling.

I said then that that 2010 deal wasnÂ’t that important and the proof of the pudding would be in the 2011 budget and the debt ceiling. I donÂ’t think we have got a 2011 budget yet as that was the Ryan plan that has been shot down in the Senate and it looks like they will cave on both of them.

5

DeMint strategy for 2012

He is planning on encouraging voters to back principles instead of a politician. He is worried that there are too many candidates and conservative choices will be splintered. Gee, that sounds like what I have been saying.

And no, he will not be running.

6

Joe Miller continues to be a boil on the ass of Party bigs

He intends to campaign and spend $500,000 in NHÂ…Â…against Romney.

7

I'm sure all the Morons remember the naked therapist

She is offering her services to Weiner for his “counseling”.

8

ACLU shows that it is not a non-partisan organization

They want SC to make another minority-majority district in SC with the new district that SC got out of the census. I guess they are aggravated that SC is down to one Dem now.

IÂ’ve got a better idea. Since we have a minority representing a non-minority-majority district, lets get rid of ClyburnÂ’s gerrymandered crap and eliminate him too so we will not have any Dems in SC.

But what this does show me is that SC is way behind other States in settling this redistricting stuff and it looks like it will wind up being a fight in the DOJ and possibly federal courts, thus endangering the 2012 election.

9

Are we seeing indications of the "end times" now?

Lack of treasury buyers means that they may have to raise interest rates. This has been predicted for a while now and it spells D.O.O.M.  D.O.O.M. spells Tom Cullen!

10

And last of all, I watched a truly strange movie this past weekend called The Imaginarium of Doctor Paransus. It was out there and is definitely not for everyone. But what was best about the move was that it had this babe (SFW)

I had never seen her before and she just has a certain quality about her. (besides being totally hawt)

11 And the quote; Herman Mellville.

12 Fuck Newt.

13

#8

Vic,

It;s the same thing here in Texas and we have George W. Bush to thank. He renewed the voting act crap for another 25 years because we are so racist, don't you know.

14 He renewed the voting act crap for another 25 years because we are so racist, don't you know.

Well technically he signed it after congress approved it. But you can bet no Republican President, especially a squish like Bush, will EVER vote or Veto against the VRA even though Section V is blatantly unconstitutional.

15 President Obama has faced more hostility from both the media and the opposition party than any President has faced in times of economic crisis. The absolute and complete resistance of the republican party to reform of healthcare is unprecedented in two party politics. The fact the media, without fact checking, makes headlines out of every preposterous statement the republicans make does nothing to improve access to healthcare for tens of millions of our citizens.

16 Yeah, the press has been real hard on Obama.  Poor thing.

17 BTW, I just looked at that VRA extension vote. It was veto proof. There was nothing Bush could have done even if he had the gumption and desire to do it.

18 Trolls are out early today. Anyway I got some work outside to do before it gets hot. Back later.

19 Who is the bigger fool, the fool or the one who follows him?

Speaking of fools:

Erekat: Negotiations will restart If PM accepts 1967 lines

20 How many repubs voted for it to be veto proof?

21 6 It's good to see Joe Miller being a thorn in Romney's ass. I'm pretty sure that Romney has a tat on his ass that reads BIG Gubmint.

22 President Obama has faced more hostility from both the media and the opposition party than any President has faced in times of economic crisis. Absolutely. Because Bush was facing more hostility when the media were trying to create a crisis out of 4.7% unemployment. The real crisis is that you are not banned from using real silverware.

23 ....unless you are. If so, retracted.

24 I am an Obama loyalist. Having said that, I scratch my head, wondering how a PRESIDENT who is so good on the stump, can have such a sorry bunch of messaging out of the WH. They never have had, and still don't. He has a whole cable company, FOX, spreading lies and propaganda for the GOP. He should have had attack dogs on TV 24/7, like Clinton did when the Republicans went after him from the start. Obama may not be able to firely speak out, but he should have those around him or designated ones who can lower the boom on Republicans. Obama is letting the Republicans frame the message, and with it, the whole country is in the dumps. He was right in passing the ACA right off the bat, because now, he would have never gotten passed. But, he could have done both, at first, with the right messaging when he had the whole country behind him, except for the 20% who are die hard Republicans and tea bagging loons. He should declare an emergency, use whatever Executive powers he has, and get people working again. I would put tariffs so high on imported products, that American companies would get no benefit out of making things, offshore for slave labor, and bringing those products back to the US, to sell. So what, if other countries get their noses out of shape.... I would close the loopholes on corporations, hire more IRS agents to go after those off shore accounts, and raise taxes on the richest, and raise taxes on those under $250K proportionally and exclude small businesses for at least 2 or 3 years. Make the tax code simple. He needs to clean house and get rid of Geithner who is a product of Wall St. and any others who are not doing the right job. I hate to see Weiner in trouble, because he was going after Republicans and their stupid budget and we need about 20 more like him. That is probably why he was outed by that slime ball Breitbart. Reid needs to go and so does Durbin as leaders. Pelosi is the only one who has done a splendid job and she was made into a mad dog with Republican lies, starting with her plane when she became speaker. Besides, their are a bunch of people who still cannot accept a black man in the WH, even though he is the epitome of their family values. Obama needs to start now to win in 2012, and what we DON'T NEED is another Republican sitting there giving more and more to the rich.

25 I think Jeffrey Dahmer was outed by a slimeball too. Damn slimeballs, outing good people. DAMN THEM!!! You can't be real.

26 Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) at June 08, 2011 07:17 AM (9hSKh)

Gee, what a surprise.  Of course, this is just want Soetero wanted.

27 Cut-and-paste troll. Get your own blog, dink.

28 >>That's a stupid quote. Heh.

29 Wait - the Republicans made Nancy Pelosi take a bigger plane from the Air Force to fly her grandkids on when she was Speaker? Those bastards!

30 Show of hands: How many dudes changed the name of their johnson to 'Anthony'?

31 The troll's gotta be a sock.  It's way too stupid.  No lefty is going to mention Weiner by name on a conservative site for a little while.

32 Give the copy and paste a rest, troll. I'm wearing out my scroll wheel with your talking points bullshit.

33 "I hate to see Weiner in trouble,"

We all hate it when our wieners get in trouble.  But, hey, that's life.

34

dguy3, you left out the part about the Jooos stealing the Pali's native land. 

 Come on dude, it's in the template.  No freelancing.

35    dguy3, you give your poly-sci professor head, don't you.

36 Yeah.  Republicans 'give' a lot of money to the rich.  Why is it that almost 3 years into this administration, the rich are still among us?  I would have thought we could have established camps to ship them to by now. 

37 OK, he is now Charles Anthony, but still a weiner.

38 dguy3: He's a half black man. I want a real man, man like LTC West or Herman Cain in the White House. Oh yes, fuck you. You're an idiot.

39 Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:12 AM (n8lg1)

You didn't read the FAQ, so I will summarize. Before you can be accepted as a commenter at Ace of Spades, you must post topless pictures of yourself on your FaceBook page, and provide links to even more risque photos, including at least one that is fully nude. Ideally they should include photos of you having intercourse with a goat or chicken, although the type of animal is dependent on what is available to you.

Good luck!

40 Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 06:58 AM (M9Ie6)

I bet my dog gets at least 3% against Obama.

If Republican's can't get it together and beat this guy in 2012 we should just move to the South Sandwich Islands and come back after the entire country implodes.

41

Yep, that's definitely a sock.  A good sock.  But a sock.

 

and the big news of the day is:

Red Sox 6

Yankees 4

42 If the republicans win in 12 we might as all move to the sandwich islands.

43
I am an Obama loyalist.

Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1)

Sorry guy, but you must wait your turn to suck the Black Mamba.  Maureen Dowd, Eleanor Clift, and Paul Krugman were in line first.  Stay in the cue bitch and no talking.

44 "Having said that, I scratch my head, wondering how a PRESIDENT who is so good on the stump, can have such a sorry bunch of messaging out of the WH."


See, when he's preaching to the choir, he's just telling fools like you what you want to hear.  But when he talks to a bigger audience, that's going to include people who deal in science, math, and reality.  Pretty sounding promises, logos, and slogans may be enough to get elected, but it's not enough to run a country. 

Hope that helps.

45 "I would put tariffs so high on imported products, that American companies would get no benefit out of making things, offshore for slave labor, and bringing those products back to the US, to sell."

Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1)

Ignoring this 6th grader's problems with commas; I guess they haven't gotten to the part in its social studies class where they discuss tariffs, and how they can destroy an economy very quickly.

Can you say, "Smoot-Hawley?"

46 Aah, the hardships of being poor. Last night I watched the lady in front of me at the grocery store checkout pay with her EBT card. Then I saw her in the parking lot loading the groceries into a late model Mustang GT and then she pulled out her iPhone to make a call.
 
Times are tough for poor people these days.

47 Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1) My weiner--I think it moved, man.

48 Posted by: Truman North at June 08, 2011 07:47 AM (K2wpv)

Girardi is a coward. He should have plunked a Red Sux, or two or three.

49

Weiner plan A- Lie, deny, lie, deny, lie, deny, etc., etc., etc.........

Weiner plan B- The mea culpa, mention wife, cue the crying, etc, etc,etc.........

What an asshole.  Shame on him.  But if he is elected anything ever again, shame on the voters.

50

Fuck David Frum over there in the sidebar.  He's a damn socialist - and when his party of Canadian socialist friends wouldn't listen to him his feelings got hurt so he joins up with - American republicans?  And now he wants to lecture the Tea Party and tell them to sit down and STFU?  And worst, he's out there misrepresenting Ryan's budget plan.

Here's an idea for you David, go back to Canada and YOU put the fuck in shut-up!

BTW yawl got a solid Prime Minister in Stephen Harper.  He kicked Obama's ass as well as the rest of the G-8 leaders last week at the economic summit when he was the lone voice standing up for Israel as Obama and Europe tried to throw Israel under the bus and make them surrender to the Palestinians.  But Harper ruled the day and made them withdraw their anti-semitic proposal.  What a kook that Harper is, hey Frum?  Why the hell weren't you reporting on that?  In fact, none of you left-wing bastards were reporting on that were you? 

Hey Frum - Canada just called, they don't want you back either.  Doesn't matter, the continent is big enough for both of us, but in the future - just leave the rest of us the hell alone.  K?

 

51 Here's a point that just occurred to me: Chris Lee was looking for chicks as a regular guy-- It was Weiner that used the office to attract tail.

52 How many repubs voted for it to be veto proof?

Posted by: ABBO at June 08, 2011 07:17 AM (XEwY1)

It was the 2006 Congress which was still Republican. The breakdown was as follows:

House 390-33

Senate 98-0

So virtually all of them.

53

What an asshole.  Shame on him.  But if he is elected anything ever again, shame on the voters.

Posted by: Case at June 08, 2011 07:51 AM (0K+Kw)

This.

54

Brooklyn Restaurant Serves Anthony's Wieners

55

24, i see what you did there. That's some brilliant snark. You captured the idiocy of the left in one simple post. it's brilliant man.

to be able to mock so relent..... wait. he was serious? Um.

I'd say he's a retard or something, but his helmet is the only thing stoping him from licking the windows on the short bus.

56

I am an Obama loyalist - Posted by: dguy3 at June 08.

Ummm, yea... you lost me after that.

57 When the GOP caves on the debt ceiling there really should be blood in the streets. It won't happen, but it should.

58 hmmmm, is this a sign that Perry is considering tossing his hat into the ring?
 
Gov. RickPerry added immigration legislation to the LegislatureÂ’s special-session agenda on Tuesday, including a measure that would remove local law enforcement agenciesÂ’ ability to not prioritize immigration violations.

In a Tuesday afternoon statement, Mr. Perry, a Republican, also added measures that would require state authorities to check a personÂ’s immigration status before issuing a driverÂ’s license and also to check a personÂ’s immigration status when he or she is arrested.

59 Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1) Oooo, somebody just learned how to cut and paste! Critical thinking, alas, is forever beyond his grasp ...

60 oh and the interview went very well yesterday. I'm hoping for a second interview tomorrow or mext week. They want to hire me, and are moving quickly, thanks for all the good wishes fellow 'rons/'ettes.

61 Yep, that's definitely a sock.  A good sock.  But a sock.

Its that damn Average Joe pulling his bullshit again. Personally I think socking stupid liberals got damn old a long long time ago.

62 Dear Lord, not Rick Perry. A hairsprayed squish ain't gonna get it done.

63 "Civil disobedience becomes a sacred duty when the state has become lawless or corrupt. And a citizen who barters with such a state shares in its corruption and lawlessness...There is only one sovereign remedy, namely, non-violent non-cooperation." - Mohandas Gandhi

64

>>Posted by: 57 states at June 08, 2011 07:52 AM (kbH+o)

Frum needs some lead inserts for his loafers.

65 Its that damn Average Joe pulling his bullshit again. Personally I think socking stupid liberals got damn old a long long time ago.

Ditto. That shit's lame.

66 Is it still considered a sock if it is a cut and pasted comment from a liberal website in which 50 other people hit the "thumbs up" button?

67

Posted by: todler at June 08, 2011 07:57 AM (fPOY0)

Congrats, todler!  Hope all goes well and smooth for the next round. 

68 Posted by: Mr Pink at June 08, 2011 08:04 AM (n8lg1)

Depends on who does it.

69 Great WSJ article. Depressing, but great.

The Economy Is Worse Than You Think
Expect more bad news until someone enacts a plan to bring deficits under control without raising taxes.

70 4 Like the 2010 budget where they kept doing the short term deals and then settled for a jar of stale peanuts and a kick in the pants, we are about to get the same deal on the debt ceiling. That's because the GOP only controls the House. Give us the Senate and the WH, we'll get you 3 jars of peanuts. Pinky swear.

71 Posted by: Hollowhead at June 08, 2011 08:08 AM (oUiFi) Yes. The GOP is an amazing bunch of cowards.

72

regarding the menonite college not wantign to play the national anthem from the sidebar, fine by me. except they STARTED it 2 years ago, and are NOW deciding to quit and make some kind of deal about it. Sounds like a ploy for publicity to me.

And the simple solution is DON'T PLAY ANYTHING.

73 Here is your WTF moment of the day;

^{Obama Presses Europe, Pledges Help for Greek Crisis}

74 Good morning, m&m's.

To the morons (and some 'ettes) Because I'm a giver...

75

Has anyone seen my motivation around? It's not very big and it hides really really well...

76 Oh and if you ever thought for one ridiculous moment that our weak financial state created by Obama in not dangerous to our national security, read the following;

OPEC Divided As Saudi's Push for Oil Increase

"But five countries - long-time price hawks Iran and Venezuela plus Ecuador, Iraq and Angola - say they see no need to increase output. All want to keep oil prices above $100 a barrel."

77 Thanks, Lacey.  You're swell.

78 Bad, bad juju:

Titanic II sinks on maiden voyage

/I'm not that superstitious, but if I ever got a boat with the name "Titanic II", the first thing I'm doing is renaming the boat to something less likely to bring bad omens. 

79 Ideally they should include photos of you having intercourse with a goat or chicken,

Tweeted for Web 2.0 credit.

80

Um, hold that thought.

Star Parker?  Ann Coulter?  Eyuch.

81 61 Atta guy tods

82 78 You're certainly welcome. Swell doesn't make the list, but I'll take it!

For those not Weinered out (wait, what?!), here's your fix.

And some more lame MSM spin for this little pipsqueak.

83 Here is your WTF moment of the day;
^{Obama Presses Europe, Pledges Help for Greek Crisis}
Posted by: Marcus at June 8, 2011 08:14 AM (CHrmZ)

But according to Chris Matthews, any linkage of Obama to European Socialism is raaacist.  By inference, then I guess we can't complain about the JEF giving OUR tax dollars away to European Socialists that have used a cabal of unelected unaccountable bureaucrats to screw up their own economies "royally".

BTW, the EU bureaucracy reminds me a lot of czars for some reason.

"We are all Greek socialists now!"

84 Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1)

Is that you, Donald Trump?
Didn't you hear that Arianna is still hiring 'writers' for free?

85

 They want to hire me, and are moving quickly

Oh, great! Much better than when a place wants you and can't get their act together.

86 Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 07:57 AM (M9Ie6)

It's a new hash. How is that working?

87 Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2011 08:19 AM (XdlcF)

When you find it could I borrow some?

88

 Has anyone seen my motivation around? It's not very big and it hides really really well....

Is that it?  Behind the Jim Beam bottle?

89 All you have to do is change servers to get a new hash.

90 Note to David Frum:  Butter is not a food group.

91 Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:22 AM (n8lg1) OHHH, YEAHHH!!!

92 Is this the thread where we scold Gabe?

93

Star Parker?  Ann Coulter?  Eyuch.

Star Parker isn't too bad, but Ann Coulter looks to... stretched.

MKH on the other hand, is very yummy.  You ever wake up from an afternoon nap with some woman lying next to you with her head on your shoulder, and your whole body is slightly numb and warm and she smells like a mixture of shampoo and clean sweat, and you can see tiny hairs on her cheek....That's what she reminds me of.

I need a moment alone.

94 Is this the thread where we scold Gabe?

Posted by: Louis Tully at June 08, 2011 08:37 AM (oUiFi)

I thought any thread allowed this!

95

Candidate on the issues a new daily review going through them in the order of that PPP poll.

Each day I will go through one of the top tier candidates and how they stand on top issues concerning Morons. Of the issues I have chosen they are:

1.      Cap and Trade/AGW

2.      Gun Control

3.      Small government in general (spending and regulation)

4.      Socialized Healthcare

5.      Border control/Amnesty

6.      Abortion (not a big issue for me but it is for others)

Where available, each of these issues will be examined against their actual record. If they have no record it will be judged on rhetoric with a qualifier as to whether or not they are dependable and trustworthy.  Note also that “electability” is not one of the above issues.

I will start with Romney

Cap & Trade

His web site currently says he is totally against it and he “unsure” of the facts in AGW.  But checking his record as governor he was for it before he was against it. He has flip-flopped. http://tinyurl.com/4x24a8z

Gun Control

He said he supports the 2nd amendment and the assault weapons ban.  That statement is not compatible. The 2^nd amendment does not say “may not be infringed except for ugly weapons”.

Small Government

The Club for Growth gives him a mixed record for tax and spend. However, the real kicker is Romneycare.  Although he didnÂ’t push it he approved it and then took credit for it. This was a massive increase in the size of government and State spending.

Socialized healthcare

Utter fail

Border Control

His web site says he is against amnesty and is for border control. So what is his past record? Well, in 2005 he was all for McCainÂ’s Amnesty plan. SO this is another flip-flop.

Abortion

While governor he was all for right to chose, now he is right to life. Another flip-flop.

So in summary, out of the 6 major conservative issues he has flip-flopped on 3, total fail on 2, and at best mixed on one. Note that most of these updates are from the “On The Issues” site which tracks a lot of this shit down.

96

Didn't you hear that Arianna is still hiring 'writers' for free?

You should also put quotes around 'hire' as well.

BTW, who's filling in with the DOOM! in Monty's absence? They should link this.

97 How can saying that Obama is acting European be racist when Europe is where white people come from?  I'm confused.  Or racist.  Or both.

98

When you find it could I borrow some?

Yeh, sure. It's going to be in the high nineties for the next week (or 3 months, more likely), so I'm just not going to do all the yard work I'd planned.

Meanwhile, the fire in my mom's neighborhood has burned 12,000 acres in 6 days. I guess she's going to be buying even more bird food to feed the feathery refugees.

99 [Virginia Senate candidate Tim Kaine says Rep. Anthony Weiner should resign. "Lying is unforgivable. Lying publicly about something like this is unforgivable and he should resign," Kaine says.]

Here we go.

100 Just saw that side bar story about the Dept of Education Swat team breaking down doors for default on student loans.

It really is time to get rid of that department. They have gone beyond the pale. The idea that the Depart of Education has a swat team is absolutely ludicrous.

101 Assad is surely shaking in his custom-made, thousand-dollar loafers:

UK and France to take Syria to UN

102

Morning all!   Set to be a hot one here in NH, with temps in the mid- to upper-90s, depending where you are.  I wouldn't mind so much if it was a dry heat, but nooo.  It's gotta be humid.  My lungs are going to get clobbered.  *wheeze*

Moving on.

I posted this last night on the ONT, but since it still has me fuming this morning, I thought it best to share the frustration with others. (I learned that from Oprah or something.)

---

UN Treaty Looks to Gut American's 2nd Amendment Rights

It may not come as surprising news to many of you that the United Nations doesn’t approve of our Second Amendment. Not one bit. And they very much hope to do something about it with help from some powerful American friends. Under the guise of a proposed global “Small Arms Treaty” premised to fight “terrorism”, “insurgency” and “international crime syndicates” you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted – our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms...

The full story is from the Forbes blog.

Just, you know, in case you want a little heartburn before bed.

*sigh*  It is really, REALLY exhausting being sane in today's world.  Don't you think?

103 "Lying is unforgivable. Lying publicly about something like this is unforgivable and he should resign," Kaine says

Unless you are Bill Clinton and you are president.

104 I guess she's going to be buying even more bird food to feed the feathery refugees.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2011 08:41 AM (XdlcF)

Global Warming refugees!!1!!!!!!!

There's a slush fund for that!

105 Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 08:39 AM (M9Ie6)
Might want to include candidate's view of federal regulations overreach, mostly EPA regs.  This is somewhat related to AGW (or AGW is used as an excuse), but I think it is important.  Mercury filled light bulbs per diktat, Gulf oil drilling ban.  Looks like this will be interesting reading.

106

*sigh*  It is really, REALLY exhausting being sane in today's world.  Don't you think?

What is this "sane" of which you speak?

 

I'm starting to appreciate humidity after hearing about the West Texas temps of 100+ and 2 % humidity. And for my hubby, 115 and 8 % humidity.

107 Chicago White Sox Manager pwns Sean Penn in a tweet.

108 How can saying that Obama is acting European be racist when Europe is where white people come from?  I'm confused.  Or racist.  Or both.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 08, 2011 08:40 AM (hMdAu)

Are you white?  If so, then you're racist.  Simple.

Europeans are (or used to be before the muz influx) was where "white" people come from (Caucasus), hence they are racist.

Obama acting European--acting like racist white people.  Or viewed another way, the bad white half of the JEF is forcing the good half of the JEF to be racist.

109 Just saw that side bar story about the Dept of Education Swat team breaking down doors for default on student loans.

Holy crap, that story is incredible.  Are you friggin' kidding me?!

Nazi references.  They're not just for breakfast anymore.

110

Global Warming refugees!!1!!!!!!!

There's a slush fund for that!

She thinks FEMA should be helping out, but I think you're right.

111 Obama forgets/then remembers to do the toast last night at the Merkel dinner:

Obama used the dinner toasts as an occasion to present Merkel with the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And after the citation was read aloud, Obama told the 200-plus dinner guests to go ahead and applaud. But then the president realized he'd forgotten something. "I've got to do the toast," he reminded himself.

And he did just that.

112 "Lying is unforgivable. Lying publicly about something like this is unforgivable and he should resign," Kaine says

Unless you are Bill Clinton and you are president.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at June 08, 2011 08:44 AM (FkKjr)

The unforgivable part is not lying.  It is getting caught lying.

113 Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2011 08:46 AM (yrGif)

I had intended on the "small gov" part to include that. That Club for Growth article said he was "fairly good" on regulations but dinged him for cap and trade.

Club For Growth White Papers 

114

Vic said:

"And last of all, I watched a truly strange movie this past weekend called The Imaginarium of Doctor Paransus. It was out there and is definitely not for everyone. But what was best about the move was that it had this babe (SFW)

I had never seen her before and she just has a certain quality about her. (besides being totally hawt)"

I saw that about a year ago and thought the same thing.  The eyes!  And she's about six feet tall.

If you want to see another gorgeous Brit actress who steals every scene she is in, watch Woody Allen's You Will Meet a Tall Dark Stranger, and wait for Judy Punch to come on.  She's the hooker.

115

 The Department of Education has a Swat team???

They need to be stopped before they go after homeschoolers.

116

The unforgivable part is not lying.  It is getting caught lying.

Posted by: Hrothgar at June 08, 2011 08:53 AM (yrGif)

Billy boy got caught lying as epically as anybody could.  The unforgivable part here is being an expendable congressman.

117 Couric on Trump: 'He was just acting like a jackass'

118

So are we going to outlaw wind turbines like we did DDT?

(Warning!  Link to the LA Times)

Wind power turbines in Altamont Pass threaten protected birds

 

119

She thinks FEMA should be helping out, but I think you're right.

Posted by: Mama AJ at June 08, 2011 08:52 AM (XdlcF)

FEMA still isn't helping out? That is pathetic.

120 LOL, MWR you have been gone for a few days right?

121 On talk radio here they are asking whether Republicans should be asking for Weiner's resignation. I say no, but only if the Republicans will do what I know they won't do, and that is play hardball and tie that fucker around the neck of every Democrat everywhere. The Republicans got rid of Foley, but the Dems still did that to them. They should encourage him to stay, and say look, this is the author of Obamacare, and he is fundamentally dishonest, and every Democrat is like him - every pic of him and another Dem should run a zillion times on TV. Think somewhere there's some pic Obama and him smiling together? But no, the stupid party, the party of pussies is sitting around trying to figure out how to get rid of SARAH PALIN. Because, you know, she's the threat.

122 122 LOL, MWR you have been gone for a few days right?

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 09:01 AM (M9Ie6)

I'm guessing the bird story is a repeat?  LOL!  I've not been gone, but I have been otherwise occupied and haven't gotten to keep up with the blog (except for some of the more epic Weiner threads). 

I denounce myself.

123 Poor lame brain leftards. They pile well meaning stupidity upon conflicting well meaning stupidity until you have what is known as leftard policy, or a clusterfuck, depending on your choice of words. Then you donky punch the whole mess until it rises up and kills you. Heh.

124 >>And last of all, I watched a truly strange movie this past weekend called The Imaginarium of Doctor Paransus. It was out there and is definitely not for everyone. It certainly wasn't for Heath Ledger. He died in the middle of the filming. One of the reasons it was weirder than it normally would have been is they had to insert different actors into various scenes to replace Ledger and redo the story to try and make it work.

125 Barack isn't going to like this.  Parks service says Sarah Palin is a superstar:

Sarah Palin's "One Nation" tour has gotten under the skin of more than just junior high school history teachers. An Oregon Democrat is crying foul at the way the National Park Service appears to be bending over backward to provide special treatment for Palin and her family as they tour historic landmarks and visit state parks. He wants an investigation.

"I opened my paper this morning to hear about cutbacks in state parks around this country,” Rep. Earl Blumenauer told ABC News on Tuesday. "We have a serious backlog of maintenance in the National Park Service. And it looks like Sarah PalinÂ’s little political cavalcade gets this amazing VIP treatment --  IÂ’m scratching my head. If itÂ’s a private family vacation, what in the world are we doing getting people in with preferential early admission and having an entourage of public employees? It looks like a political stunt, and Palin Inc. ought to pay for it."

A Park Service spokesman told the news organization that it recognizes that Palin is neither an elected official nor a candidate; they opened up the park early for her family and provided special tours just as they would "for Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie."

126 Bird story and the UN have been beat up already. But that's OK some stories are good for a repeat anyway.

127 Oh, and also hearing that Weiner is "unpopular" in the Dem caucus. Oh, sure, now that's their story. Show him gladhanding and smiling and getting sucked up to on MSNBC. Damage their brand. FINISH THEM!

128 No link, but I heard on F&F this morning that in the latest polling, 51% of New Yawkahs do not want Weiner's weiner to resign.  I gather he's too good a progressive voice....or they don't mind characterless liars....most likely both.

129 Well who was watching Heath Ledger when Lily Cole was there?

130

Nice to know Homeland Security isn't afraid of profiling.

(At least, when the people they're profiling are a bunch of elderly British travelers on a two and a half month cruise.)

131
Titanic II sinks on maiden voyage

/I'm not that superstitious, but if I ever got a boat with the name "Titanic II", the first thing I'm doing is renaming the boat to something less likely to bring bad omens. 

Posted by: Kratos (Ghost of Sparta)

 

They should switch to a nicer name, like one of a girl. Say, Andrea Doria or Marie Celeste.

132

Is it just me or are there more and more cases of cops gone wild? Did you see that sidebar on using SWAT nazis to crash into a house full of kids for a student loan scofflaw?? Who wasn't even there..!! Really..?? a student loan default..?? WTF??!!??

Then there's the Miami cops threatening to shoot citizens filming a cop shooting and taking cell phones and cameras and destroying them.

Then there's the case of the young Marine veteran gunned down in his house by a bunch of Keystone Kopp SWAT nazis when the young man wasn't even involved in the crimes.

All you real cops out there - this $hit's got to stop or the citizens will start responding badly. Consider that there's a milllion+ military veterans out here and most of us are armed and shoot better than you do. If we become afraid and untrusting of cops this will not go well for you.

133 Hey Vic
On that PPP poll... You say Romney went up after Huck dropped out?  I would not have thought Romney would pick up Huckabee voters in SC.  Sounds like a good sign for Romney.

134

Its that damn Average Joe pulling his bullshit again. Personally I think socking stupid liberals got damn old a long long time ago.

Oh dear.

135

From that article on Obama pledging to assist with another Greek bailout:

"So we do see clearly our European responsibility and we're shouldering that responsibility, together with the IMF."

We have a responsibility to take on more debt to help Greeks with their socialism problem? Unbelievable. He has to be trying to sink the US.  Thanks again,52%ers!

136 On that PPP poll... You say Romney went up after Huck dropped out?

That is what PPP said. In fact they said that was the ONLY reason his numbers went up as he is losing momentum and his negatives are going up.

137 Anyone know where I can find the tweets Beck is talking about?

138 No link, but I heard on F&F this morning that in the latest polling, 51% of New Yawkahs do not want Weiner's weiner to resign.  I gather he's too good a progressive voice....or they don't mind characterless liars....most likely both.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 08, 2011 09:09 AM (ruZPj)

We have used up our runoff election budget, so we can't afford another one for a trivial little mistake.

139

All you real cops out there - this $hit's got to stop or the citizens will start responding badly. Consider that there's a milllion+ military veterans out here and most of us are armed and shoot better than you do. If we become afraid and untrusting of cops this will not go well for you.

My Son is a cop. You're right about the shooting. Most of them could be standing in the middle of Lake Superior and be unable to hit the water with their Glocks. He is amazed at their lack of ability, or their unconcern for it. Also, he is unimpressed with Glocks in general. No reloads allowed. No max loads allowed.

140

From that article on Obama pledging to assist with another Greek bailout:

"So we do see clearly our European responsibility and we're shouldering that responsibility, together with the IMF."

 

Imagine a boat. already taking on water, agreeing to come alongside another and take on still more water from that second one, which happenes to be in worse shape than the first.

 

That is what the JEF is proposing.

141

No link, but I heard on F&F this morning that in the latest polling, 51% of New Yawkahs do not want Weiner's weiner to resign.  I gather he's too good a progressive voice....or they don't mind characterless liars....most likely both.

Posted by: Lady in Black

 

It's important that we retain a Representive whom we elected and who truly is one of us.

142 MWR/ about U.N, and Blue Meat on Obamas  sharing our stuff . It seems to be something He desires, I don't know if you've ever read his bill/ Global Poverty Act but it also is about control on americans owning  guns and spreading da wealth around .

143 Here's the Weiner messages. 

144 Posted by: Lady in Black at June 08, 2011 09:09 AM (ruZPj)

LEAVE NEW YORK ALONE!

145

Posted by: Blue Hen at June 08, 2011 09:16 AM (Gzv/o)

Does anyone think the JEF is gonna get a Greek bailout through Congress?

146 Theoretically any money he plans to give Greece (and any of the rest of them) will have to be allocated through appropriations.

Perhaps the House will not sell us out.

147 Is anyone else having a problem bringing up the Glenn Beck "free live streaming of the radio show" from the beck site?

148 maddog,  must He? Can't He just do as He desires? Who will stand in His way?

149 Posted by: Blue Hen at June 08, 2011 09:11 AM (Gzv/o)

Nah, use a man's name.

Edmund Fitzgerald.

150 No link, but I heard on F&F this morning that in the latest polling, 51% of New Yawkahs do not want Weiner's weiner to resign.  I gather he's too good a progressive voice....or they don't mind characterless liars....most likely both.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 08, 2011 09:09 AM (ruZPj)

For Progressives being a liar with no character is a feature, not a bug.

151 Perhaps the House will not sell us out.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 09:20 AM (M9Ie6)

Just when I was thinking so well of you Vic!

152

150 maddog,  must He? Can't He just do as He desires? Who will stand in His way?

Why, our latest super hero......Superboner man. Right?

153 146 Posted by: Lady in Black at June 08, 2011 09:09 AM (ruZPj)

LEAVE NEW YORK ALONE!

Posted by: curiously dense at June 08, 2011 09:20 AM (LH6ir)

didn't ace say something about not having similar screen names to existing posters?

154 Gordon Lightfoot still alive?

155 Perhaps the House will not sell us out.

But you have seen what I got in exchange for this!

156

didn't ace say something about not having similar screen names to existing posters?

Yes, but he made an exception for you.

157 Poor little Anthony, His shame will be laid bare  for all to see., for months.

158

Nah, use a man's name.

Edmund Fitzgerald.

Or Gordon Lightfoot!

159 158

didn't ace say something about not having similar screen names to existing posters?

Yes, but he made an exception for you.

Posted by: maddogg at June 08, 2011 09:25 AM (OlN4e)

gee I didn't read that.

160 Posted by: Confirmation: New Yorkers are pricks at June 08, 2011 09:18 AM (Gzv/o)

Yeah, and Delawareans are such upstanding citizens.

161 maddog,  must He? Can't He just do as He desires? Who will stand in His way?

Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 09:22 AM (h+qn

Well, the Libyan kinetic action comes to mind where no Congressional involvement was required.  Perhaps a kinetic economic activity will work for the Greek Socialists as well without involving those pesky repubs in the House and that old appropriations thingy.

162 Perhaps the House will not sell us out.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 09:20 AM (M9Ie6)

You forgot to take your medicine today.

163 If the republicans win in 12 we might as all move to the sandwich islands.

Posted by: dguy3 at June 08, 2011 07:48 AM (n8lg1)

 

Who is we sucker? Promises promises. Libturds always claim that if a Republican wins the presidency they'll leave the country. I've sadly yet to see one of you go. This time make good on your promise. I'll even help you bastards pack and drive you to an airport

164 How about we start a little fund for our head ewok to get one of those therapy sessions, like to see how she explains the pudding.

165 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at June 08, 2011 09:27 AM (LH6ir)

You have to make SURE that they swallow the neds!

166 didn't ace say something about not having similar screen names to existing posters?

The same name is verboten, am amusing variation, not so much.

167 Ok wow I just see where Rush had this idea first.

168 WHEN the Republicans win the leftards should all heed the need of Gaia and retire to large municipal heated swimming pools and have thenselves a razor blade party.

169

Okay, I get that California is boned, that they are permanently boned, that nothing short of an act of God can reverse their bonedness... yet I still gaze in awe as they continue merrily to stamp their passport to economic ruin.

California pushes for an "Amazon" tax

They're just determined to push all potential revenue out of the state, aren't they? 

170 The same name is verboten, am amusing variation, not so much.

Posted by: toby928™ at June 08, 2011 09:29 AM (GTbGH)

Especially when the target is being mocked and made fun of.

171 Posted by: MWR at June 08, 2011 09:30 AM (4df7R)

Last night devin nunes said on batchelor that they are getting ready to get rid of nuclear power and I thought to myself "can they make it any worse".  I can't wait for him to post the podcast so I can link to it.  I was shocked to hear that.

172 Article I, section 9

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.¹

1- Except when Obama is President and this entire document can be ignored.

173

They're just determined to push all potential revenue out of the state, aren't they? 

Posted by: MWR at June 08, 2011 09:30 AM (4df7R)

What are you talking about? The increase in corporate taxes will be used for government infrastructure projects to make California even more attractive to corporations. It will be difficult to control the influx of companies relocating to the Golden State. And next year, when we raise taxes even more, our economy will be the strongest in the country.

174

Especially when the target is being mocked and made fun of.

Posted by: toby817™ at June 08, 2011 09:31 AM (LH6ir)

yeah that I don't get since I've been here for over two years.

but a lot of you guys are really old so I just chalk it up to that.

175

Apparently New Speak has redefined 'human right'. I was taught that a 'right' is something you own innately. It does not cost anyone else anything for you to have this right. A right does not take anything from another. A right cannot be given. It exists outside give or take.

Apparently the new definition is that a right is when you want something someone else has, you have a 'right' to it. The less you do to earn these new rights the more you have earned them. Also a corollary exists in that a right is conferred for 'fairness' and/or 'social justice' - those terms also having been redefined in New Speak.

Yo! Trolls... have I got that right now?

176 Doom: Krugman-Style. He's not worried about national bankruptcy, he's worried about overpopulation, pollution, resource-depletion, consumerism, and all those other edgy liberal anxieties from 1973.

177 1- Except when Obama is President and this entire document can be ignored.

Posted by: Vic at June 08, 2011 09:32 AM (M9Ie6)

It is like, 100 years old! Dude!

178

They're just determined to push all potential revenue out of the state, aren't they? 

Posted by: MWR at June 08, 2011 09:30 AM (4df7R)

States all over the country are pushing this now. It will go to court. The courts ruled long ago that stores with no "presence" in the State can not be forced to pay sales tax in the State or collect it.

179 yeah that I don't get since I've been here for over two years.

Yeah, it seems like forever.

180 Ok 12 years....

181

Watching shit like "Batchelor" is mistake # 1 for the day.

Admitting to it was mistake # 2.

#3?

182

I'm pretty sure someone must have mentioned this somewhere, but just in case y'all didn't hear, the Mo Bros are now an officially recognized political party in Egypt. 

Awesome. 

183
  Here's one for y'all--couple weeks ago, I did some work on a classic car for a good friend. Did the road test, etc. and returned it to him. 3 days ago, he called me up and said there was something I had to see. What I saw was the words "fuck you" keyed into one door and rear quarter. Really deep.  there was more lettering started, but incomplete, as if they were interrupted. Cops were called, but after a private chat with one, nothing is likely to break on it.

  So the past couple nights have been spent repairing the damage. It would be nice if the police DID find the culprits, and NOT my friend.  Bad things would happen......

184 House Rs propose Social Security opt-out
(from 6/6)

185 The Department of Education has a Swat team?

The only school swat team I knew of was when the nuns would whack us with a ruler.

186 irongrandpa -- a disgruntled GM stockholder, guaranteed ( unless he's an illegal).

187

California pushes for an "Amazon" tax

Ah, this will be good- should serve as a lovely test case to prove the truism "If you want to get less of something, tax it."

188

Posted by: irongrampa at June 08, 2011 09:37 AM (ud5dN)

Obama constituents. Lowest of the low. No different than dogs who piss on uneated food to prevent others from eating it.

189 vic and everyone, wasn't money already sent over to europe?  so he thinks he has a precedent set.  I'm beginning to think the IMF gives the orders, is that true?

190

Posted by: irongrampa at June 08, 2011 09:37 AM (ud5dN)

What nasty, unprincipled rats!   Dollars to donuts the culprits are a couple of crackhead welfare clowns.  

191  Posted by: chuck in st paul at June 08, 2011 09:35 AM (EhYdw)
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”  Lewis Carroll

192 Miss80s.

That would take the place of the 6.2 percent the workers now contributed to Social Security.

Another 6.2% is sent to Social Security by employers. Under the Sessions bill, employers would continue to make this matching contribution to Social Security, but after 15 years, employers could also send that amount to the employee's SAFE account.

I liek this idea, yet is there any Safe acct when the gvt has anything to do with it?

193 I'm beginning to think the IMF gives the orders, is that true?

He can try to send money via the IMF but that money still must be appropriated.

194

187 House Rs propose Social Security opt-out

Man, this would be great. However, from the article:

"Under the bill, workers would immediately have 6.2 percent of their wages sent to a "SAFE" account each year."

This sounds like al droopy gore saying "lawk bawx" to me. A SAFE account? Managed by who? With funds administered by who?

Good in theory, but I don't trust the G.

 

 

195 The Dept O Education SWAT team article on the sidebar needs it's own post on the main page. WOW. Just WOW. Who knew?

196 Actually though, now that I think about it, the IMF doesn't actually send money. The guarantee loans from private banks. I'm not sure what the outcome of that will be.

197

Apparently Tax Cheat Timmy & Co. can't find enough ratholes down which to pour tax dollars and borrowed Chinese money so we're going to send a couple freighters full of fiat cash to Greece.

Who's next... Zimbabwe?

Between the Cargo Culters and the Idiocracy candidates it's no wonder we can't seem to find a majority of adults in America to put a stop to this insanity.

198 The Dept O Education SWAT team article on the sidebar needs it's own post on the main page. WOW. Just WOW. Who knew?

Posted by: Talibill at June 08, 2011 09:45 AM (WEWGu)

What good is the Second Amendment if the government can't use guns?

199

You know, with the shambles our current government is making of the national and global economic and political landscape, does anyone else feel like giving anarchism a try?  I honestly think it would be less of a headache to just have no government at all rather than trying to pound some common sense into our idiot legislators.

(I am, of course, kidding.  But only just.)

200 oh and last night on batchelor devin nunes almost gave larry kudlow an on air coronary.   He intimated that the republicans were so serious that default was on the table.  Kudlow jumped all over him.  to get out of it he said well it was more of a political statement and he knew we eventually have to raise the debt ceiling.

didn't sleep all night thinking about the exchange.  You have to hear the first hour of batchelor's podcast from last night vic and everyone.

201 The Dept O Education SWAT team article on the sidebar needs it's own post on the main page. WOW. Just WOW. Who knew?

Posted by: Talibill at June 08, 2011 09:45 AM (WEWGu)

Yeah think what happens when you decide you don't want a liberal  arts degree.

202 The Dept O Education SWAT team article on the sidebar needs it's own post on the main page. WOW. Just WOW. Who knew?

What it needs is an IMMEDIATE investigation by Issa with subpoenas and swearing them in.

203 maddogg - Batchelor is on the radio. He has some good guests and his show used to be better then he went Rinotard and has John Avlon on a bit too much. Plus he's a Palin hater. But he has Thaddeus McCotter on too, so that's a plus.

204 I work for the Department of Education and I didn't know there was a damn SWAT team on the payroll.  Why the hell does the DoE need an investigative and enforcement arm?  What are we, the ATF?

205 Vic. can you imagine Issas , To Do list?

206 MWR,  it's like getting a loan from the mob?

207 Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2011 09:49 AM (Fw2Gg)

my dad listened to 'batchelor and alexander' and then they went off the air and then finally john batchelor came on alone.  I like him, I listen as much as I can and if I can't I listen to the podcasts when I'm running.  He really does educate his listeners and he talked about the PIGS like two years before they were on anyone else's radar.

208 195 ...I liek this idea, yet is there any Safe acct when the gvt has anything to do with it?

Not really*, but I'll also say that Sessions doesn't have bad intentions here. Regardless, the bill has little chance of passing because (1) other Rs have their own ideas on SS reform and (2) the Dems especially would never stand for an opt-out option.

_{*In the sense that someone will eventually come-along and want to use the money for their own purposes unless there is protection against that very thing.}

209 Perhaps the House will not sell us out.

Posted by: Vic

lol, I see what you did there.

210 phoenixgirl, I'm uncertain what you are speaking of but i had a cockatoo, that would laugh like norman bates/then attack  if you didn't respond to his chatter in a minute or so. which would go like this, " good norman, norman good boy, good norman" of course we had to say ,"Good Boy Norman!" if we wanted all to go well.

211 209 MWR,  it's like getting a loan from the mob?

Posted by: willow at June 08, 2011 09:51 AM (h+qn

DOE S.W.A.T. GUY: So, we been hearin' from little boids that you been complainin' 'bout dat degree in Lesbian, Gay 'n Transgendered Studies youse got from dat fine ed-u-ca-tion-al establishment from which you was matriculated...

212 Chuck in at paul it just seems like law enforcement actions are getting out of control but the truth of the matter is law enforcement today is the most ethical it has ever been. The main reason for that is our electronic age and immediate accountability that is demanded. There will always be bad cops and over zealous enforcement but it's not anything like it was just a short 30 years ago.

213

Why does Worst Case keep evolving into New Normal? 

214 The Department of Education has a Swat team? Every Federal Agency has some sort of gun carrier. (Not sure about DoL anymore). State - DSSS Treasury - USSS Defense - et al Justice - FBI, etc Interior - Park Police, Agriculture -- Forest Rangers Commerce -- GSA Police (Federal Protective Service) Labor -- ? HHS -- Public Health Corp, HUD -- SWAT teams in HUD properties Energy -- several Education -- See story VA -- Facility security (this may be contracted out now) HLS -- et al

215 MWR at June 08, 2011 09:58 AM (4df7R)

haha. sheesh you're good at that!
looks around the room to see if they're really already here.

216

California pushes for an "Amazon" tax

Ah, this will be good- should serve as a lovely test case to prove the truism "If you want to get less of something, tax it."

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 08, 2011 09:40 AM (tk5O7)

 

Illinois did that a couple of months ago and the next day Amazon cut all of its Illinois affiliates. It's a brilliant move to hurt local businesses

217

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2011 09:49 AM (Fw2Gg)

Never heard his show. Must be regional. Anyway, my hatred for RINOs would preclude my ever being interested in listening to him. Don't listen to Rush either. After a year of daily listening, it just got old, and he has too much baggage to influence events significantly IMHO. These days, I get almost all my info off the web. I only watch Foxnews for the babes. And even then, Shep Smith can make that tiresome. Savage is too strange even for a radical like me.

218

Every Federal Agency has some sort of gun carrier. (Not sure about DoL anymore).

They do.  It's called the AFL-CIO.

219 curious, I think that Batchelor does some of the best interviews I have heard on radio. One thing that he does that I really appreciate is that he constantly tells you who he is interviewing - if you come in the middle of the show he says "Talking to xyz of the NYT" for example. His interviewees aren't people you would necessarily know by voice. And he obviously reads the books of the people who he interviews, and sometimes he gets these writers who are NOT good on radio and does a great job of leading them through a narrative and getting a good story out. Its a talent that a lot of people don't have. I can forgive the Avlon stuff he'll get over it I think.

220 Formal IPAB repeal gaining Dem support

"One of the key provisions in President Barack Obama’s health care reform law — his preferred method for getting Medicare costs under control — is facing a groundswell of opposition from unexpected corners.

Several House Democrats have signed on to support a bill to repeal the Independent Payment Advisory Board, a panel created by the law that is supposed to help control rising costs in Medicare. The National Committee to Preserve Social Security and Medicare, a prominent supporter of the law, is now actively lobbying for its repeal, too."

This after Senate Dems reluctantly admitted yesterday that they are for some minor changes to Medicare instead of just letting the program collapse, then instituting IPAB. The Senate will never overhaul IPAB but fellow Dems and former sponsors agreeing with repeal ought to make them nervous.

221

FOCUSED. LIKE. A. LASER.

Daily economic briefings disappear from Obama's White House schedule

Link to The Hill.

222 David Mamet is on Beck. 

223 maddogg - Batchelor's show is national. He was on for like 24 hours straight after 9/11 and his show took off - something happened with the contracts and syndication and he went off the air, came back with a smaller footprint. And a somewhat RINO cast to it, but that seems to be fading. But, really, his guests and interviews are great. You can get the podcasts off of the website johnbatchelorshow.com

224 Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2011 10:03 AM (Fw2Gg)

You know I started listening with my dad, like when we were in the car going places and then I was told to stop talking so much about batchelor on here but I'm a big fan.  I work a lot and can't get as much reading in as I would like, with batchelor I feel like he is educating me every minute I'm listening.  And he does do a great interview.  What I love about him is that he doesn't do your thinking for you.  He gives you all the information and long after the show you are still thinking about what you heard.   With some hosts you know they have an agenda, he doesn't his only desire is to educate you so you can reach your own conclusion and I love that.  I've called him the sy syms of radio to get my friends to listen. 

225

I had an interesting conversation at work last night with a young co-worker who is in college. We were talking about the economy, and she told me that most of her friends who had graduated couldn't find jobs, but since their loans were coming due decided to go back to school for another degree, in order to fend off paying the loans.

Yikes!

The other thing she told me is that she wants to be an RN, but the waiting list at our local JCC is several years, as the demand to get into the program is that large. So she's just taking the prereqs right now and hoping to transfer to one of the Universities here that offer an RN program.

You people heard anything like that where you are?

226 4 Here we go again, look out Morons we been ratted out here

Like the 2010 budget where they kept doing the short term deals and then settled for a jar of stale peanuts and a kick in the pants, we are about to get the same deal on the debt ceiling....

The short-term and final CR was finishing what the Dems were required to do for FY 2011 and "Ryan's" budget is for FY 2012. With these negotiations, the House Rs can ask for consensus over the appropriations bills for 2012 to be part of a deal or they could do it separately.

As for Kyl, he should be a bit more careful about what he says and try to remain on the same page as Cantor. The House Rs have a list of items they specifically want but it seems the Senate Rs may not have those same demands. Regardless, what Kyl is referencing is a short-term increase if the Dems don't give them $2.5T or higher. Depending on how long, it would still hold to the idea that, for every dollar the ceiling is raised, the Dems must agree to that plus some in cuts.

227 David Mamet on Beck now

228 Something about Beck these days...his radio show has been starting to change, and I'm getting an odd vibe off it.  He's gone from expecting everything's about to come crashing down to, and I am not quite exaggerating, expecting divine providence to bring about a happy ending.  Something is up there and I'm not quite clear what.

Wouldn't surprise me if it was basically a religious/inspirational broadcast within two years.

229 hey you kids "stop playing with fire"!

hmmm devin nunes was serious?

230 We were talking about the economy, and she told me that most of her friends who had graduated couldn't find jobs, but since their loans were coming due decided to go back to school for another degree, in order to fend off paying the loans.

Not what  you call 'uncommon'.  If my status quo hadn't gotten disrupted in '08 I'd have done similarly, though to a certain extent that was planned--I'd have continued school for Internet Security training.

I've known folks doing that for ages, largely because the degree they got is actually kinda useless in the real world.  Or they just don't want to live in the real world and kite from grant to loan to grant.  At least one young lady I knew went into the military to try to cover her debts...of course, then 9/11 happened.  Did I mention she was Left as the day as long?

To her credit, she kept her commitment and went in in '04.  No idea what happened to her after that.

231 HH,
Our local university has a solid nursing program and has recently added a Masters in nursing as well.  I think their tuition is the lowest in the state.  Cost of living here is very reasonable and housing is still low, but expected to rebound as our Governor has managed to entice a lot of jobs to our state (many in our county). 

232 >>> 2) The Department of Education has a Swat team??? Lucky for the Feds this wasn't Randy Weaver ... What if there had been resistance and the DoE killed someone over a student loan?? This is going to end very badly.

233 Democratic Governments with a welfare state and printing press have 100% percent mortality rate.

234 Posted by: HH at June 08, 2011 10:14 AM (6oDXl)

Loan payments kick in 6 months after you receive your degree, no matter what, it's set in stone.  And it's all interest for a long time.  And they don't want you to pay down principle, they've actually returned money to freinds who tried to give their whole bonus to pay down interest.  They don't allow that.  And every single loan is now department of education through sally mae.  Everyone I know has been changed over to this.

If you go to grad school I've heard that you still have to pay your undergrad loans.  It used to be that you could just table them until you graduated grad school or professional school but now apparently you still have to pay your undergrad loans.  Also in the past you could take extra money for living and stuff in your grad school loan.  Apparently now you can't.  A lot of parents are paying for living and eating for their grad school kids.  Then again a lot of parents, if they don't want junior or muffy home, have brought apartments in big cities or are paying rent for junior or muffy anyway, even if junior or muffy doesn't have a job.  Most people are going the americorps route.

235 Alec Baldwin for mayor of NYC?

It's official.  Politics is a field any idiot can enter.

236 Dear Lord.  A commenter in Vox Populi in the morning fish wrap:

President Obama is laying a financial foundation that will bring this country out of our deep recession.

237 Is this a great country or what!?!

Apologies if I am late to the table with this tidbit.

238

What struck me, and her as she related the story, is that her friends are basically doubling down on their debt. She didn't mention that they weren't looking for jobs, just that their weren't any out there. She even mentioned law-school grads.

I just wasn't aware of the demand for people wanting to be an RN.

239

The other thing she told me is that she wants to be an RN, but the waiting list at our local JCC is several years, as the demand to get into the program is that large. So she's just taking the prereqs right now and hoping to transfer to one of the Universities here that offer an RN program.

You people heard anything like that where you are?

Posted by: HH at June 08, 2011 10:14 AM (6oDXl)

That's actually fairly common in the community college system, regardless of state.  It's precisely because the community colleges offer programs like nursing, for much less than four year schools and with fewer elective requirements, that their programs fill up so quickly and are so hard to get into.  Your colleague is smart to take what she can at the CC and then transfer to a four-year for the final degree. 

240 stewart mocks the weiner

241 I just wasn't aware of the demand for people wanting to be an RN.

I heard that they were anticipating a demand for nurses a couple of years ago.  Between the problems of paying for med school (and the expense associated with malpractice insurance) and the passage of Obamacare, there is supposed to be a continued/increase shortage of doctors.  Nurses, physicians assistants, and the like are anticipated to pick up the slack.

UVU is one of the largest comprehensive universities in the country, offering everything from vocational training and community college (associates) degrees through masters degrees.  I don't know what it takes to establish residency here, but she may want to consider relocating to Utah. 

242

I just wasn't aware of the demand for people wanting to be an RN.

Posted by: HH at June 08, 2011 10:31 AM (6oDXl)

Nursing is one field that is always in demand.  RN and LNA programs are always very full.  The problem, of course, is that if you don't like dealing with sick people and all their various bodily functions, you're not going to last long in any medical profession.  It's a lot like teaching.  People go into it expecting a job for life, and end up hating it because it's not their passion.  You have to have a passion for it to either A) try to teach hormonal teenagers how to do geometry, or B) clean up the vomit your morning patient spewed all over the floor because s/he got food poisoning from bad shellfish.

243 Yep nursing is the new thing to want to be.  even if you have a degree apparently there is a shortage of nurses.  But from what my friends tell me you really need a BS in nursing and then an MS to make any real money.

244 Regarding the Dept of Education SWAT team, it wasn't a DoEdu SWAT team at all.  It was an LE team from the Office of the Inspector General serving the warrant and doing the entry.  Stockton po-po was only there to be the victim of the ensuing hate mail.  I feel sorry for them at the Stockton mayor who has to explain to his citizens how this could happen again if the DoEdu wants to follow up on another student loan defaulter.

And for Vic, if you want another movie full of hawt Brit birds, then you need to rent St. Trinian's.  Came out a few years ago.  It's set at an all-girl boarding school.  You see where this is heading?  Gemma Arterton, from Quantum of Solace and Prince of Persia and looking hotter than the sun's exploding solar flare, is the "Head Girl".  Yes, she actually says it when she introduces herself!  The rest of the cast is full Brit actresses just as hawt, especially the call girl squad specializing in Royal Family takedowns.

245 The OIG offices are a bunch of paper-pushers investigating fraud, waste & abuse.  What are they doing kicking down doors SWAT style???  For defautling on student loans?  How many people default on student loans?  There has to be more to that story.

246

Stewart was Weiner's best friend and roommate.

I'm surprised they could fit both those egos and that much arrogance in the same room.

247 It would be nice to have a thread dedicated solely to Frum bashing, hint hint.

248 Several House Democrats have signed on to support a bill to repeal the Independent Payment Advisory Board, a panel created by the law that is supposed to help control rising costs in Medicare.

Bastards.  Maybe they should have ironed that out prior to passage had they read the fricking thing to begin with.

249

252 mwr

what would have been smarter is to get her aa from that community college and apply to the nursing school directly instead of taking out a student loan for (a useless degree?) at a 4 yr institution that she now is evading paying.....ah but hind sight

The problem with that is that the associate's degree program at the CC is full and very hard to get into.  But if she can get her gen eds and other pre-reqs done at the CC, then transfer those credits to the 4-year, she can complete the nursing program at the 4-year school in less than four years.  It's a significant cost savings.  The issue is always the transferability of credits from one college to another, but doing some research beforehand is usually enough to clear those questions up. 

250 Debbie Wasserman-Shultz and the word 'literally'

RNC chairman Reince Priebus called her out for her remarks here, too, though I'm thinking it got buried by Weinergate.

251

Posted by: MWR at June 08, 2011 10:36 AM (4df7R)

Oh, I was in medicine for years, and yes, it finally burned me out. But there always seemed to be ebbs and flows in the job market. You might have some years when all hospitals were desperate for help, offering bonuses etc, and then lean years when hiring was fairly scarce.

So it's been a while since I've been keeping track of that sort of thing. But it was nice when that young woman told me she wanted to be an RN.

Unlike someone wanting a business degree...

252

Batchelor's show is national. He was on for like 24 hours straight after

You know I started listening with my dad, like when we were in the car going places

Gee blaster, I didn't know you were an adolescent too.

253 How come the libs haven't gone all nuts on this guy?  sheesh he could have fed a couple of small countries and had some satisfaction that he was doing something good with his money.

254 257 Bastards.  Maybe they should have ironed that out prior to passage had they read the fricking thing to begin with.

An majority of Dems wanted IPAB until they saw how people responded to it. When most people are told what it is, they don't want it. So the Dems supporting this measure recognize this but the ones who don't are hoping that people don't notice. The Rs need to keep comparing/contrasting their plan versus IPAB and tell people that the plan is to slowly make IPAB part of ObamaCare. 

255 I am running for mayor of NYC ... a cobra in every pot!!!!!

256 261:  Agreed.  I'd rather see a hundred nurses than a thousand lawyers.

257 265 257 Make that "institute" for the last sentence. People need to know what a majority of Dems have in-mind for when a number of programs collapse.

258 If you're in Japan and stuck because your Nissan Leaf electric car ran out of gas, you can call for help and they'll send a truck with a big-ass diesel generator to save you.

Green!

259 When is all this crap on EVERY news channel about teh evil Casey Anthony going to end???? I really do not give a honey badger shit about that trial.

Convict her, gas her, and get it gone.

260 Posted by: HH at June 08, 2011 10:44 AM (6oDXl)

A lot of people who were planning to be doctors have decided to go into nursing.  They figure the money will be "just as good" but without some of the political drama and regulations that doctors have to deal with.  A lot of my guy friends got an MBA and are now in nursing school.  People are going into stuff where they think the money will be, it's not the calling that my friend's sister had when she became a nurse.  They are just as bad as teachers.  they have a powerful union and become the multi millionaire next door when they retire if they use the financial planners provided by the union.

261 When is all this crap on EVERY news channel about teh evil Casey Anthony going to end???? I really do not give a honey badger shit about that trial.

Bread and circuses, Vic.  Bread and circuses.

262

or a global economics degree?

(Laughs)

What would that be? Bachelor of Bummer?

"Hey folks, I got my BB Degree"!

"Great, now take out the garbage".

263 I just read an article in which Jason Chaffetz says he's a friend of Anthony Weiner. In a way that makes sense but it's still rather bizarre. He must be one of the few Rs Weiner didn't treat like dirt.

264 how can you not love this guy?

265 Report: China overtakes US as top energy consumer

Excerpt:

Oil company BP said Wednesday that China moved to the top in 2010 with 20.3 percent of global demand, ahead of the United States at 19 percent.


LINK - AP (h/t Drudge)

266 here's a better link.  sorry.

267 radar online has the weiner tweet transcripts

268 Posted by: mrp at June 08, 2011 11:00 AM (HjPtV)

another LINK

269 Dagny you got me except of course part of that quote is curious. But, yes, I am really a 17 yo totally hawt guy. Want to go to chat you can teach me a few things?

270 But, yes, I am really a 17 yo totally hawt guy. Want to go to chat you can teach me a few things?

Posted by: blaster at June 08, 2011 11:05 AM (Fw2Gg)

jailbait

271 Gov. Perry has asked for another day of prayer and the libs are (unsurprisingly) criticizing him. They act like he's requiring them to participate when it's voluntary. If you don't want to pray or don't believe in it, then don't do it.

272

Who is we sucker? Promises promises. Libturds always claim that if a Republican wins the presidency they'll leave the country. I've sadly yet to see one of you go. This time make good on your promise. I'll even help you bastards pack and drive you to an airport

Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 08, 2011 09:28 AM

And I'll gladly pay your one-way airfare.

In fact I'd be willing to bet that you people have PO'd so many of your fellow countrymen, that you could parlay your offer to leave into about 5-10 years worth of free stuff; rent, transportastion, food, etc., in your new home country, if you would just do the rest of us the favor of making good on your promise.

273 I read a long time ago that Obama jokes and giggles his way into the daily National Security meetings; gets bored and splits after about 5 minutes.  Now, economic news is honed down, to what, a Post-It note?  What does it take to involve his interest?  Jarret claims that Obama is so super-smart, so intellectual, you can't even comprehend it.  Biden says that Obama's skull is too small for his brains.  I want to know what, exactly, piques his interest that is not so mundane.  Really.  I wish to know.

274 i hear liberal girls are very, uh, accommodating of others

275 here's a better link.  sorry.

Is that Joe the Plumber at about the 3:05 mark?

276 278 radar online has the weiner tweet transcripts   eww, eww, eww, eww, ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

277 "let's raise some cain"!

love the slogan

did stew just say he's going to put some yard signs in his yard for rick santoreum?

278 My wife confessed last night to feeling guilty about a revenge fantasy that she has been having.  My two daughters were adopted after involuntary termination of parental rights occasioned by the fact that their parents were low life doper scum.  We have always told them that when they turn eighteen they can find their biological parents if they want.  My older daughter has turned eighteen and has found her biological mother.  My daughter has decided that she is getting married in our back yard and she wants bio mom to attend.  We're OK with that but that and some other things have caused my wife to have great resentment toward bio-mom.  The intrusive revenge fantasy that she has been having and about which she feels guilty involves bio-mom at the wedding introducing herself to various other guests many of whom are lawyers, doctors, PhDs and what have you whereas bio-mom is a graduate of the school of hard knocks and several incarceration and rehabilitation facilities.  Bio-mom will thus feel socially inferior.  Thus is her brutal revenge fantasy that causes her to feel guilt stricken.

My revenge fantasies regarding my enemies involve restraints, a ball peen hammer, vice grips,and a blow torch.  And I don't feel guilty about it.

279 jailbait

That term only applies to men and younger women.

280 Chuck in at paul it just seems like law enforcement actions are getting out of control but the truth of the matter is law enforcement today is the most ethical it has ever been. The main reason for that is our electronic age and immediate accountability that is demanded. There will always be bad cops and over zealous enforcement but it's not anything like it was just a short 30 years ago.

Posted by: polynikes-EX Romney supporter at June 08, 2011 09:58 AM (1QAha)

Guess that is why they get so upset when they are video-taped in the performance of their duties!

281 what is kinda funny is that i was looking at my fb page for something and i had posted that i wanted to bang you like a month ago! i think it was after you called lieberman a pr**k! not that was hot!

282

I was just reading Weiner's dirty talk on radaronline. He's disgusting on so many levels, it's difficult to process. Then I read this headline: "Nancy Pelosi wants to Probe Weiner".

 

283 wow beck is really really anti new york over the 43% think they won't vote for weiner again thing.

284 Beck has been ranting about taking his children to a playground in Central Park and witnessing two girls, about six and seven years old, crapping under the monkey bars?!?  And the parents ignored it.

In my years raising D'oh Boy and going to lots of playgrounds in Atlanta and the western 'burbs of Chicago, I've never, ever witnessed that.

I guess the children of our betters in NYC are just special, or something.

285 I keep telling my friends "teach in NY the money is good" and no one listens...

link

286 u owe me big time for keeping this all quietÂ…i am defending u to the death on every blog and to everyoneÂ….telling everyone u would never send dirty messages to women

287

Dagny you got me except of course part of that quote is curious.

Yeah, I know, I meant that I knew curious was sorta adolescent but I didn't know you were too.

But, yes, I am really a 17 yo totally hawt guy. Want to go to chat you can teach me a few things?

LOL

Read radar on line and you can learn how not to sext from weiner.

288 NYC is a pit.

289

Darelle Issa to hold hearings in SC over NLRB illegal action against Boeing.

He has asked Lafe Solomen to attend (he is the union thug who initiated the action). He refused so Issa has told him to reconsider or face a subpoena.

290 Syosset isn't even the best district.  The best district is Jericho.  A small house in that district goes for over a million and that is with the housing crash.

291 Walrus, as I suspect you and your wife already know, the school of hard-knocks can be a magnificent teacher. A formal education is not the measure of a person's intelligence nor their will to succeed.

That being said, it is not the bio-mom's lack of education that will make her stand apart from the educated amongst your friends, it is the choices she has made in her life, amongst those, the path that led to losing her daughter.

I, too, would feel guilty about the fantasy but as revenge fantasies go, that's pretty tame.

I'm going to make a prediction, and you let me know later whether I am right. On the day of the wedding, you and your wife will be so overwhelmed with love and joy for your daughter that all thoughts of "revenge" will pass from your mind, and the only concern you will have will be that of your daughter's special day. Even more than that, I am willing to bet that your wife will be more kind and gracious to the bio-mom than even she might expect.

Pity is in order here. Imagine all the love and joy your daughter has bestowed upon you, and secure in the knowledge that your daughter loves you in return, the weight of bio-mom's choices will be more than enough to satisfy the fantasies.

292 LOL @93.  Well played.

293 We've truly gone back to the '70's.  Where have I heard this before??
Paging Ehrlich, Paul and Holdren, John circa 1973-ish.

http://tinyurl.com/3j34cs9

294
304 "The Earth is Full"

Apparently Learjets don't' have passenger windows.

295 We've truly gone back to the '70's.  Where have I heard this before??

Seems to me that they were jabbering about the new Ice Age, brought on by eeeevil manufacturing, back then. Other than how now they're jabbering about Earth burning up, yeah it's pretty much a regurgitation of the 70's chicken littles.

Good analysis, Hedgehog.

296

 Â“The only answer can be denial,” argues Paul Gilding, the veteran Australian environmentalist-entrepreneur.

Ok...

297

I want to know what, exactly, piques his interest that is not so mundane.

Also:

Man's Country Bath house, Andersonville neighborhood in Chicago

Wagyu Beef

Arugala

Riding in the big jet airplane! Wheee!

298

I want to know what, exactly, piques his interest that is not so mundane.

Also:

Man's Country Bath house, Andersonville neighborhood in Chicago

Wagyu Beef

Arugala

Riding in the big jet airplane! Wheee!

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 08, 2011 11:35 AM (XyjRQ)

Don't forget lavish white house parties!!

299 295 Beck has been ranting about taking his children to a playground in Central Park and witnessing two girls, about six and seven years old, crapping under the monkey bars?!?
_________

Yeah, but the first time he said it he pronounced it "cropping". I thought "scrapbooking in the park?"

300

I want to know what, exactly, piques his interest that is not so mundane.

Also:

Man's Country Bath house, Andersonville neighborhood in Chicago

Wagyu Beef

Arugala

Riding in the big jet airplane! Wheee!

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 08, 2011 11:35 AM (XyjRQ)

Don't forget lavish white house parties!!


And kicking our allies in the teeth. Don't forget that!

301 Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 08, 2011 11:35 AM (XyjRQ)

Don't forget lavish white house parties!!


And kicking our allies in the teeth. Don't forget that!

Posted by: Clueless at June 08, 2011 11:41 AM (piMMO)

 

And golf........did anyone mention that?

302

I want to know what, exactly, piques his interest that is not so mundane.

Also:

Man's Country Bath house, Andersonville neighborhood in Chicago

Wagyu Beef

Arugala

Riding in the big jet airplane! Wheee!

Posted by: Chariots of Toast at June 08, 2011 11:35 AM (XyjRQ)

Don't forget lavish white house parties!!


And kicking our allies in the teeth. Don't forget that!

And mom jeans.

303 The high cost of tax subsidized education!

SWAT Teams barging into your home at all hours.

It's what that television advertisement DEMANDING our attention for a stupid product "prepares" the viewing public to accept as the daily norm in America.

The husband with no criminal record "should" count his lucky stars that his wife's SWAT Team didn't shoot first opening fire from the exterior of the home. Had he been a veteran, would it have gone down as it did for the dearly departed veteran in Tucson who worked the swing shift before being assassinated by his SWAT Team, live rounds bursting through the walls of his home where his wife and children had no safety, either?

As per tax funded student loans, where in the fine print of the contract does it stipulate that those who default are subject to the "mercy" of a Federal SWAT Team?

304 I always laugh at the New Yorkers. When we were still in college, my now husband had me come to NYC to show me his "home town". He took me to a Broadway Play (42nd Street), dinner somewhere that was supposed to impress me, and a carriage ride through central park. I came away mostly impressed by the size of the rats by the east river, the roaches in the bathrooms, the prices, and the volume of trash on the sidewalks and streets. I never told him, that wouldn't be nice. BTW, I'm from the close DC suburbs and had lived in London so it's not as if I was comparing it to Nebraska or something. How these people think they are "better" is beyond me.

305 Radio said Anthony is "trying to keep a low profile". Bwahaha. Is that possible?

306 318 Radio said Anthony is "trying to keep a low profile". Bwahaha. Is that possible?

Posted by: dagny at June 08, 2011 12:01 PM (yny8c)

Pretty tough with that schnozz, not to mention the big mouth

307

That 6 month thing for repayment isn't set in stone for me. Just graduated last month. Both private and gov't loans have the clauses that if i need up to 2 or maybe 3 years of deferment i can take it. And that thing about repaying while in grad school doesn't apply to me either. Any going back to school triggers a deferment as long as the school informs the loan provider that i'm attending classes. Also going through the mandatory counseling I can start repayment at anytime and pay extra if i wish. Might be a NY only thing that you're talking about.

Depending on if i can find decent work, retreating back to school is looking pretty good, either try for grad school program or just get a teaching certificate.

308 Gov. Perry has asked for another day of prayer

As if "I'm on you're side"... appealing to the social conservative voters, many of whom wear blinders and don't study all that in reality Perry represents.

Personally, I like prayer a lot. And I have no problem personally perpetuating America's traditional cultural practices, participating in singing religious songs or in public prayer. And even if someone's public prayer included something elitist that offended my sense of egalitarianism, I'd let it go as their own expression, given free speech and all.

I do reject the so-called "sensibility" of atheists who demand that no one ever show any sign of faith when not at home or at a designated place of worship within privately owned property. I listen to what atheists say and read what they write and watch what they do in public without taking personal offense at their choice of selected belief system. So I reject the argument that only atheism is to be tolerated in public, just as vehemently as I reject any radical religious argument that only their brand deserves God's acceptance.

I absolutely defend American's constitutional rights to worship or to not worship, including the maintenance of the sanctity of one's body and mind --NOT to be abused or molested by anyone including employees of our government. Our religious freedom right supersedes our government's illegitimate "right" to suppress free speech.

I also protest any tax funds given to so-called "faith-based" federally approved programs of indoctrination, or to "secular humanitarian" institutions (the UN, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood,etc.).

Let charity be freely given from each individual towards individually chosen causes.

309 Ron Paul actually came in ahead of T-Paw on that PPP poll I posted this morning. Cain in ahead of both.

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