1 hmmmmmmmm

2

House set to vote on the latest Boner kick-the-can bill

They will vote today and Otrama says he will veto it. Piss on him I no longer care WTF that bubbling commie bastard says.  Dingy Harry says the Senate Dems are 100% opposed as well. Piss on them too.  And wide reports that Boner told Republican conservatives in the House to “get their asses in line”.  Gee, why canÂ’t he negotiate that way with Dems?  It appears that all of the House leadership has told the conservatives to suck it up and eat their peas.  

And I hope that this is the LAST Boner bill. The Senate Dems have said no, Otrama has said no. Since Bomer tells his on people to get their asses in line, perhaps he should tell the commies to get their asses in line and tell them it is this or NOTHING. I especially would send him support if he publicly told Obama to “eat his goddamn peas”.

And lastly F&F glad to show shriveled up asshole McCain calling Tea Party people out with BS. Damn I hate that SOB almost s much as Otrama.

3 That would be me.

4

Out of all the posts on the Boner bill I don't know if everyone got around to seeing the CBO numbers for the new one. Here they are from The Hill

According to CBO it cuts $22B from this yearÂ’s budget, all from discretionary spending. That is out of a budget of roughly $3.7T. IOW it is a drop in the bucket. It makes a lot of noise about capping spending and cutting $917B over 10 years. Anyone who thinks cuts staged out past 1 year are real cuts is not living in this universe. 

And it does not touch “mandatory spending”.  And look Morons letÂ’s get it clear here. Mandatory spending is NOT SS and Medicare etc. Once Congress passes a bill to allocate funds (not a budget an allocation) it goes into the mandatory bucket. All it takes to get it out of the “mandatory” bucket is to pass another bill, like this one.

On the BS 14th Amendment crap even the liberal WT says it is BS

5

The Washington Examiner - A pox on both their houses

All the Morons know that I have long been down on big city papers for being the PR rags for the commie-Dem party. I started looking at the Examiner lst week and after a few days I have come to the conclusion that they may not be a PR rag for the Dems. The, in fact, appear to be balanced, neither conservative nor liberal. Something Fox claims to be but isnÂ’t.

That is the only reason I posted this link and article. It doesn’t really give us anything new. Just thought I would let the Morons know where a “reasonable paper” is.

6

O-Muzzie continues his war against Israel

I have always believed in letting Presidents have their way in foreign policy until it came to treaties because you can not have a rational policy with 500 people doing the negotiating. However, what do you do when the President is hell bent on destroying our long time allies and helping our enemies?

7

Obama to announce new fuel standards

I posted on this previously. At that time it was “he was considering”, now it is “he is doing”. CAFÉ standards are set by congressional act, that is until now. Here they are being set by executive fiat. In other words, imperial decree from a communist dictator.

Will congress act? Not a chance in hell.  Just more boned.  Another funny thing about this article in this liberal rag, the comments appear to be uniformly against this action.

8

Now we see more of the "behind the scenes" reasons for the NRLB union goon war on Boeing in SC

The union has been kicked out by the workers once already, but it is back again with more pressure.

Riedel said workers have been told — or they have been led to believe — that if they unionize, IAM leadership will get the NLRB to drop the controversial complaint against Boeing.

The NRLB suit is government corruption. The NRLB should be disbanded.

9

Good Article on Rick Perry from the Texas Monthly

My MIL gets this magazine and I read it when I am over there. But I ran across this link at RCP.  Good article but it does not shed any additional light on his two biggest problems. It does dispel any thought of “just another Bush”.

10

Difference between Norway and the US.

Even in liberal NYC some shit is not tolerated. Thug shoots into crowd at house party and kills 17 y.o. girl, gets 75 years.  Norway, thug shoots into crowd of children killing over 90, most he can get is 21 years in a jail with better living conditions than my last apartment.

11

Even more evidence that Obama's foreign policy is totally insane

He gets into an illegal war in Libya in which he have no national interest at all. Now he wants the GD Russians to mediate the end of hostilities.  I am just gob-smacked.

12

Something I have been aching to see in our sue happy society

In a highly unusual plea in the Supreme Court, the two trade groups for the video game industry asked the Justices on Monday to require the state of California to reimburse industry lawyers for $1,144,602.24 (a figure that may later be increased) for legal fees and expenses — the professional costs of winning a major First Amendment victory in the Court.

They want some “loser pays”. I say hell yes. Unfortunately it is highly unlikely, especially at this level.

13

 14th Amendment!       14th Amendment!

-Gomer Pyle Donks

14 The NRLB suit is government corruption. The NRLB should be disbanded. Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:10 AM (M9Ie6) That or lined up against a wall

15

Looks like our guestimating on the debt rating agencies wasn't too far off the mark

Lawmakers Probing if Obama Administration Meddled With S&P Rating

Of course, since they will not do anything about if he did what good does it do?

16 Obama to announce new fuel standards Another political ad writes itself.

17

More RINOs have outed themselves.  Yesterday, Andrea Tantaros started in with the "suck it up" meme and Allen West said that while it's not the ultimate, "he would bet his retirement on it" or some such mush. 

Meanwhile, one of the few hardcore conservatives left reminded the GOP Establishment® what anal orifices they were and reminded fly-over voters what power they had.  Levin brings a must-listen woodshed moment.

18 That's it from my review this morning, now to go back through and catch up on the other posts.

19 15, Is that NLRB or is this a different org.

20 If you froze spending at 2011 levels, the CBO would call it a 9 Trillion dollar cut. 

Because of a law passed in 1974, the congress uses baseline budgeting, which assumes increases every year.  The Boehner plan only reduces the rate of increase in spending.

Another example of how irrational Washington has become:  With baseline budgeting, lets say the dept of Ed gets 100 billion in 2011.  In 2012 it is budgeted at 105 billion.  If instead it only gets 102.5 billion, the feds say the Dept of Ed budget has been CUT by 2.5 billion.

That is not a cut by any definition except in Washington.

21 Perry 2012!  Governor wear your shitkickers!

22 Posted by: RushBabe at July 28, 2011 07:13 AM (Ew27I) All well and good but keep in mind "we" only control 1/3 of the Gov. The Senate and White House are in the enemies hands.

23 I dunno. Barry is so good at squirming out of responsibility for things, but it looks like Boehner's got him cornered on this.

I know the plan doesn't cut or address budgetary issues, really. BUT, it does have the delicious side-effect of forcing Barry's limp-hand.

For that, I like it. And bringing this mess up again nearer election time has its charms as well.

Sit back and enjoy the show. We're screwed either way, but this'll be fun to watch.

You KNOW Barry is all pissy and pouty over this. Let that warm your cockles.

24 , Is that NLRB or is this a different org. Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 28, 2011 07:13 AM (ZDUD4) ?

25 King Barky Summons Veterans Groups to Explain Upcoming Butt Fucking

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at July 28, 2011 07:08 AM (Lt/Za)

Isn't it wonderful that Peggy Joseph can have her rent and gasoline bills paid, along with 85K a year for all her "babies", never work a day in her life, but vets have to suck it up and eat their peas.

Nothing could illustrate the absolute worthlessness of the Democrap party than this.

26 25, I'll try again, what is the NRLB?

27 I'll try again, what is the NRLB? Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 28, 2011 07:16 AM (ZDUD4) National Labor Relations Board A quasi-government board which rules on disputes between Labor and Management. Many of the members are appointed by the President and as you can imagine this president has stacked it with commies.

28 Yesterday, Andrea Tantaros started in with the "suck it up" meme and Allen West said that while it's not the ultimate, "he would bet his retirement on it" or some such mush.

Isn't she one of those Fox talking head babes who gives the Republican side of the "fair and balanced" debate?  If she is and is the one I am thinking about she always been nothing more than eye candy and worthless.

Of course that is all Fox has ever wanted in those so-called debates.

29 15, Is that NLRB or is this a different org.

LOL, we all needs us some dyslexia typing.

30

All well and good but keep in mind "we" only control 1/3 of the Gov. The Senate and White House are in the enemies hands.

Do you think if the situation were reversed and Pelosi still had the House that they would back down on what they wanted?  All spending originates in the House.  They passed CC&B.  That should be the end of it.  Like Rush says, Quit offering plans.  Let them offer one.

(Oldsailor's poet: National Labor Relations Board.)

31 27 25, I'll try again, what is the NRLB?

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 28, 2011 07:16 AM (ZDUD4)

Typo.

Vic is old, a Southerner, probably drunk this late in the morning, and was in the Navy. We're lucky he knows how to turn on his computer.

32 Vic is old, a Southerner, probably drunk this late in the morning, and was in the Navy. We're lucky he knows how to turn on his computer. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 28, 2011 07:20 AM (LH6ir) You say those things like there is something wrong with them

33 At this point the Boehner plan is theater.  Reid said he won't let it come to a vote in the Senate.  Soetero said he'd veto it.  It's as dead as CCB so I'm not sure why it's so critical the House go on record as voting for surrender.

Boehner's panicking and in full rout.  When this plan gets shot down he'll put forward another, worse deal.  Reid and Soetero have picked up on this and are just sweating him out to get the best deal possible for their side.

If there is a shutdown, it will only be because Boehner holds firm on the only thing he cares about - a debt ceiling vote coming up in 2012.

34

He gets into an illegal war in Libya in which he have no national interest at all. Now he wants the GD Russians to mediate the end of hostilities.I am just gob-smacked.

Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:11 AM (M9Ie6)

I get the idea he and his are attempting to scuttle the ship purposely.

 

35 My understanding is the Boner Plan nails Obamacare to the floor, fully funded.

36 32, There you go again with the Navy Jokes. Where's that SEAL team 6 phone #?

37 Isn't she one of those Fox talking head babes who gives the Republican side of the "fair and balanced" debate?  If she is and is the one I am thinking about she always been nothing more than eye candy and worthless.

It's probably the one you're thinking of.  Long black hair, giant brown eyes and usually wears "do me" shoes.  Eric Bolling is the only fiscal conservative on that panel (The Five).  The weird thing is I thought I read that Tantaros was signing on as Jim DeMint's spokesperson a while back, which led me to think he was going to run for prez. 

38 ...nothing more than eye candy and worthless.""""" Man, Vic is old.

39 Posted by: nevergiveup at July 28, 2011 07:21 AM (i6RpT)

I wish I were drinking this morning.

40 Vic is old, a Southerner, probably drunk this late in the morning, and was in the Navy.

I am not drunk......yet. Like I said on the ONT going to doctor this morning.

41 36, Where do you see this info?

42 The weird thing is I thought I read that Tantaros was signing on as Jim DeMint's spokesperson a while back, which led me to think he was going to run for prez. Or hit that like a runaway train.

43 All well and good but keep in mind "we" only control 1/3 of the Gov. The Senate and White House are in the enemies hands.

Honestly, what is the difference between having two vetoes and one veto?  If Barry agreed to a deal, Reid would accept it.  If Reid agreed to a deal, Barry would be in a difficult position and would probably accept it.  Effectively, this is an argument with two sides, both of which have the power to stop the other.  The Senate also isn't like the house.  The minority has more power there. 

44 Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 28, 2011 07:21 AM (FkKjr)

Agreed.

The sad thing is that if Boehner had more intestinal fortitude and political intelligence he would simply throw up his hands and say:

"We tried! We presented several plans. Nothing is good enough for the man-child in the WH. His tirades about compromise are theater to try to fool the American people, but they won't be fooled."

45 Or hit that like a runaway train.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 28, 2011 07:26 AM (ZDUD4)

Meh, he doesn't seem the type to think with his pants.  Since he's Vic's senator, we should ask him if there have ever been any hints of  libido scandals. 

46 Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:25 AM (M9Ie6)

I jest. I jest!

Good luck at the doctors.

47 46, I doubt it too, I was projecting.

48 And lastly F&F glad to show shriveled up asshole McCain calling Tea Party people out with BS. Damn I hate that SOB almost s much as Otrama.

McVain obviously sees the budget impasse as an excellent opportunity to reach across the aisle and torpedo his own party and get back in good graces with his MFM buds who deserted him in 2008.  I'm still waiting for the senile cocksucker to "name names" about who fucked up the economy.

49 ...nothing more than eye candy and worthless.""""" Man, Vic is old.

Posted by: Case at July 28, 2011 07:25 AM (0K+Kw)

LOL, let me rephrase, she is worthless for representing conservatives in political discussion.

50 Posted by: Captain Hate at July 28, 2011 07:30 AM (zsvKP)

He really is a disloyal, cocksucking prick. When was the last time McCain did anything for anyone else?

Is he this self-centered as a rebellion against all that he stood for in Vietnam?

51 Norway, thug shoots into crowd of children killing over 90, most he can get is 21 years in a jail with better living conditions than my last apartment.

Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:10 AM (M9Ie6)

 

Well, look at it this way.  The bulk of those he killed, perhaps all, were the kind of people who made the system work that way.  There's some poetic justice in that.  Finally the libs, for once, can endure the injustice that their ideology usually foists onto others. 

I was about to type something like "maybe they'll learn a lesson" but then I realized that no amount of fact, reason, or logic can change the mind of a libtard, and Euro-commies are the worst of the bunch.

52 Since the HQ is full of history buffs, did you know about the schooling that Davey Crockett got from one of his constituents, a farmer, re spending treasury money?  Not yours to give.  An outstanding lesson for today's dirtbags in DC.

53 I'm still waiting for the senile cocksucker to "name names" about who fucked up the economy. What a childish joke that was. So, if he's not POTUS he's not going to do what's right for the country? I think he has rode his legitimate war hero status all the way to the peter principle.

54 someone linked to Bernard Herrmann's Fahrenheit 451 score. What an illustriously moving film composer.

55 There's some poetic justice in that.

That's shit.

56  I'm still waiting for the senile cocksucker to "name names" about who fucked up the economy.

Posted by: Captain Hate at July 28, 2011 07:30 AM (zsvKP)

Brad Thor's latest, Full Black, exposes the Shadow Party and shows that the stock-market crash of fall '08 was a set up.  George Soreass is thinly veiled as the leading player in the plan for the U.S. demise also.

57 There you go again with the Navy Jokes. Where's that SEAL team 6 phone #? Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at July 28, 2011 07:24 AM (ZDUD4) I'll be down in Norfolk next week if you got a message for them

58 56, Yeah, even if your thinking that you may not want to write it. Unless of course you have your own blog to destroy.

59 Is he this self-centered as a rebellion against all that he stood for in Vietnam?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at July 28, 2011 07:32 AM (LH6ir)

I can't help but respect what he went through it Vietnam but seeing how he keeps crawling back to the fuckheads who ridiculed him in 2008, it's hard to come to any other conclusion that he was completely broken by the prison experience.

60 How did Italy cancelling its bond sale go over?

61 Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:07 AM

What galls me more than anything else is that the so-called "conservative" pundits -- Tepid Air, NRO, et. al. -- are saying this is "the best we can do," and that in the name of political expediency, 2012, Good Government and not irritating President Historic First, we must take what we can get.

I say: fuck that!

The friggin' government is OUT OF MONEY, can't stop pissing away money they don't have, and thinks it is their right to take more from us to build useless shit to honor themselves, make their union buddies fat and happy and support racists, terrorists and good old-fashioned common crooks.

Boner is a Washington-addicted, unprincipled fuckstick. Fundamentally, he is no different from Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the greedy wastrels living the high life in Congress. If he doesn't stop nibbling at the edges of the economic crisis -- which he and his buddies are more than a little responsible for, BTW -- he is giving aid and comfort to the Traitor-in-Chief.

I said it yesterday: it appears there are only two ways for the clueless jerks in D.C. to learn about the consequences of what they have done and want to go on doing -- the ugly way and the really ugly way.

I'm beginning to lean toward the latter as being what must happen, and what they richly deserve.

62

That's shit.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 28, 2011 07:36 AM (lpWVn)

 

Gotcha.  Best to make sure the Left is alway insulated from what they make the rest of us suffer.  Good thinking.  So I suppose you don't like the story of the grasshopper and the ant, either.  That greedy ant should have merely scolded the grasshopper about its sloth and profligacy and shared the winter supply, rather than let the grasshopper starve.

The Norwegian leftists are the people who tell the Israelis that Pali terrorism is Israel's fault.  It's one thing to feel sorry for the kids - but I have no pity for the adults.  Let them see what it's like.

63 Posted by: Vic at July 28, 2011 07:10 AM (M9Ie6)

What, in your opinion, are his two biggest problems?

64 Meh, he doesn't seem the type to think with his pants.  Since he's Vic's senator, we should ask him if there have ever been any hints of  libido scandals.

There has never been a hint of scandal with him. Of course, until he went to Argentina there was not scandal with Sanford either.

But I doubt if DeMint would get involved with a honey like that, especially that young. 

65 Well, look at it this way.  The bulk of those he killed, perhaps all, were the kind of people who made the system work that way.

Fuck that noise. They may deserve poverty and misery as adults but the kids don't deserve death.

66 Norway's government counts as reliably as US official figures.

The death toll was horrendous, but hyped by a dozen.

That Norway's official governance has consistently been effecting eugenics for over a century is a point for discussion. They certainly weren't alone, as eugenics was Wilson's basis for American social policy as well as all of Europe preceding WWI. That the war effected the population control for a period didn't stop eugenicists driving nationalism into WWII, and controlling the Asian Communist regimes still today, they ascending in global power. Eugenics is what ObamaCare is all about implementing along with the authoritarianism required to enforce.

67 "The bulk of those he killed, perhaps all, were the kind of people who made the system work that way.  There's some poetic justice in that."

Posted by: Reactionary at July 28, 2011 07:32 AM (xUM1Q)

They were teenagers..innocents, you fucking psycho.

68 Reactionary at July 28, 2011 07:41 AM

Don't get caught up in a god complex determining who deserves to die. As Munny said, deserve's got nothing to do with it.

Your little sermon shows that you certainly failed to read my posts since the massacre.

69 What, in your opinion, are his two biggest problems?

Posted by: AllenG (Dedicated Tenther) at July 28, 2011 07:41 AM (KxyHe)

The TTH and the drug thing hit him hard in the small gov category. I would post the link to the eval but I can't find it and I need to start getting ready to leave.

70

Your little sermon shows that you certainly failed to read my posts since the massacre.

Posted by: maverick muse at July 28, 2011 07:50 AM (lpWVn)

 

This is a great blog and all, but I can't read every post. 

I have at no point endorsed what was done, and have stated that it was wrong.  It's was wrong because an individual person does not have the right to wage war on his own.  That's why I will never tell somebody to go burn down a mosque, nor do so myself.  Not until such time as the nation as a whole authorizes it via the political process - even though the muz are a serious cultural threat and should not be allowed to be here.  Free lance crusades are not our responsibility nor our right as individual people.

But that said, my heart does not bleed for the people who have no trouble with others being terrorized.  They are content to see other people's kids blown up in shopping malls and gunned down in the street. 

And there's no small measure of hypocrisy being endulged here, re the kid issue.  How many have joined the "nuke 'em" chorus around here?  What makes innocent kids in Norway less valuable than equally innocent kids in the ME?  Yet there are plenty here who, in response to various islamic barbarities, have advocated actively killing WAY more than a few dozen kiddies with disproportionate response (myself among them).  How many of us have spoken up to justify the wasteful and counterproductive carpet bombing of German civilian population centers in WW2?  Plenty of folk in A-stan have no interest in harming us, yet because of their depraved culture plenty of us here have fantasized about turning their entire land into a barren radioactive waste.  And don't tell me it's to deprive the Taliban of the resources to wage war.  We all know that's crap.  

 

 

 

71 Wrt Spray-On John and the Boehner Plan, I hope they fail. They wont get a single D vote. Tea partiers voting Yes will get the cross hairs in 12.

72 While everyone else was watching the budget battle, Ear Leader was issuing another executive order.

73 6
King Barky Summons Veterans Groups to Explain Upcoming Butt Fucking

From a Senior Citizen's point of view, I DARE this prick to withhold my Social Security check, or any part of it.

He must think, that when you're over 62, you turn into a blithering idiot.

74 Posted by: RushBabe at July 28, 2011 08:17 AM (Ew27I)

Congress needs to send that shit right back at him with an emphatic "No fucking way".

75 Well,  while everyone is getting all hysterical about Boehner (mostly menfolk,  it seems to me)  I would point out that what Boehner is doing is demonstrating what we all know:  Obama isn't going to sign ANYTHING with Boehner's name on it,  and is willing to see the country collapse unless he can get more taxes.

This should be pretty easy for even the slow walkers at the RNC to wrap into a handy few ads.

Doesn't anyone think that perhaps the info we are getting from media sources might be a little slanted?  That some bloggers on the right are more interesting in striking a pose and getting new readership? 

The GOP guys know what we want.  They also know what they can actually get done.  We only have half of 1/3 of the government.  Since CC&B has already been tabled by Reid,  what do you think Boehner should do?   Nothing?  And then what?  "The Republicans in the House have irresponsibly failed to act," President Obama will say in a nationally televised in an Oval Office speech.

I am not interested in attacking anyone on OUR side.  I am interested in attacking Obama and Reid.

76 On Norway's traditional affinity to recognize the Palestinian complaint, I'm unaware that Norway ever flip-flopped on Palestinian rights; though I doubt that Muslims assimilate culturally any better in Scandinavia than in France, Britain or Canada.

Unlike Britain and France who divided the WWI conquered territory of the broken Ottoman Empire via socialist League of Nations "authority", Scandinavia never approved of Europe's imperialist motives in the Middle East. And it wasn't that Scandinavians hated Jews so much that they'd embrace Muslim Arabs just for spite.

It was the principle of non-intervention, realizing that European arbitration in the Middle East was never going to solve any innate problems there. After all, it wasn't the Scandinavians who responded to the post-Classical Roman Christian Crusades in Palestine, but the French and by virtue of linked monarchy and culture, the English.

Breivik the Terrible's massacre is working to distract Norwegians from addressing their very concerns, manipulated so conveniently into Breivik's audacious cut/paste manifesto. Now in Norway to admit their problem with Islamic massive immigrant population, un-assimilated, is to be tagged a Breivik radical. What would have been addressed in due course has been halted and smitten down in cold blood.

What's sick about Norway is that their governing officials would sacrifice their own children in order to perpetrate permanent position of authority which as socialists means authoritarianism.

That Norway still recognizes the rights of the Palestinian population is nothing new. Furthermore, it's nothing more perverted than the former British Empire's purposes, nor more perverted than the GWB/Obama "winning hearts and minds of the enemy" neoconservatism dispatching native populations for not embracing Western culture. And on that note, recognize how the Chinese have chosen well to play profitable political-business-interests soft ball without accompanying troops compared to "The Ugly American" globalists, merely UN pawns. And in the UN, we're not even financially compensated mercenaries, but the suckers paying for our own demise.

That part of the world remains what it is, worse than a pain in the ass, Pandora's Box in the Orient. And promoting the annihilation of entire tribes is the obscene wish of a foolish egotist, incapable of governing its own Constitutional Republic at home without succumbing to authoritarianism, as officials willingly swear that their political opponents deserve death, whether American citizens or conservatives stateside or ancient tribes stuck in hell's backbone in Afghanistan/Pakistan spilling death by drone or illegal and empirical military invasion over entire continents.

So long as our borders remain open and unprotected, our military exploits abroad are draining our life's constitutional purpose. So every tribe gets to see up close and personal who and what America is as death's drone terrorizes their place in the world. Given the obvious rot of the ATF compounded by the authoritarianism of the DHS/intelligency community complicit with the potus and attorney general, and a Congress handing over what constitutional purpose it has to the empirical chief executive to abuse at will, who actually believes US official reports about anything, anywhere any more? It isn't as if our wars abroad are meant to be won since taking on the Crusader's UN Mantel of Military Authority -- to be sent to take a meaningless hill of UN strategic interest, to be ordered to retreat and to retake the meaningless hill after hill, retreat after attack, to finally sign some document declaring "peace with honor"...war after war, spring into winter, decade after decade.

"I'm not interested in victory" -- only in starting wars I have no intention of winning. -- CinC Obama as Congress is stuck on stupid shock and awe, refusing to impeach der Weltkaiser UN puppet.

We are stuck where we are, too spread out across the globe as ministers of war and destruction (look at Egypt!), as Obama imports international police prepared to enforce authoritarianism in America. Authorized by whom for what purpose? What violence at home, instigated by whom?

Yesterday, when Norway's Chief of Intelligence cleared the British of any "right-wing" link to Breivik, a British former ambassador blamed Breivik's massacre on America -- not on the CIA, ATF or even the TSA, but on the American Tea Party. From that accusation, given our broken economy and corrupt governance, are we to expect new taxation for income never earned?

77 78 Well,  while everyone is getting all hysterical about Boehner (mostly menfolk,  it seems to me)  I would point out that what Boehner is doing is demonstrating what we all know:  Obama isn't going to sign ANYTHING with Boehner's name on it,  and is willing to see the country collapse unless he can get more taxes.

No, Barky is going to wait for Boehner to continue bidding against himself, until until Spray-On offers Barky what he needs. Then Barky will sign, you and others will praise Spray-on John as a hero, and my family will be stuck paying for his disasterous lack of judgment, and yours, for all of their lives. Barky is playing your squishy hero like a Stradivarious, and he knows you and the other Repubs will applaud anything, anything, your guy does.

78 He must think, that when you're over 62, you turn into a blithering idiot.

"He" and most youth today.

79

Well,  while everyone is getting all hysterical about Boehner (mostly menfolk,  it seems to me)  I would point out that what Boehner is doing is demonstrating what we all know:  Obama isn't going to sign ANYTHING with Boehner's name on it,  and is willing to see the country collapse unless he can get more taxes

 

And that somehow justifies Boehner negotiating with himself? And putting up a bill that the CBO catches hi on? And McCain attacking the Tea Party?

 

Oh that's right; to point this out is to be 'hysterical'.

80

78--I am not interested in attacking anyone on OUR side. 

Our side opposes all further borrowing--ie, theft from my children. Your side is just fine with more "borrowing." Your guy Boehner believes his highest obligation is to keep the borrowed money flowing for the Barky Regime. He's the Bag Man for the socialists.  Like I said, I'm hoping he fails, and planning to oppose those who support his efforts to keep the stolen money flowing.

81 #80  No,  I do not support everything Boehner does.  I think he got rolled in the last round of negotiations.  And I also think he learned his lesson.

Seems to me when Allen West and John Bolton support a plan,  it isn't the suicide pill you think it is.

I suggest you read the entire plan and think about consequences if it is NOT passed.   And ask yourself why you are getting yourself into such a snit. 

I have 3 grandchildren whom I want to see live in a USA more like the one I grew up in.  I do not want to see them saddled with a huge tax burden and asking about the days when we were a leading super-power. 

If Obama gets re-elected,  it will destroy this nation.  The primary goal is to get him out,  and that means not giving him an opening to demonize Republicans and at the same time diminishing his support amongst the clueless left.  All of this grandstanding like Boehner can call the shots is simply not realistic,  and I don't care what Levin, or Limbaugh, or Erickson, or anyone else says. 

82

I think this would fall in the category of “jobs created”.

83 Blue Hen,  McCain is an asshole,  and nowhere did I say I supported him.  And I backed Christine O'Donnell here when a bunch of people were getting pissy about her,  so cool it.

Boehner is NOT negotiating with himself.  He is negotiating with the Senate opposition and is demonstrating responsibility,  while the democrats have not submitted a budget and while Obama has no plan at all?  Even the press has finally caught on to this.

I have said my piece.  All of you can continue ranting. Not going to argue this early in the day.  Just think about what I said.

84 84I have 3 grandchildren whom I want to see live in a USA more like the one I grew up in.  I do not want to see them saddled with a huge tax burden and asking about the days when we were a leading super-power. 

You're not helping your grandkids by piling more debt on them. That's what Boehner's plan does. I gather you think that may be an acceptable price if it moves power from Barky to Boehner (I do not), but even in that regard you are profoundly mistaken.  Boehner's terrible judgment and lack of principle have opened up a huge gap in what is left of the GOP coalition, and he and his supporters are going to reap the whirlwind in '12.

85 #84  So,  is Thomas Sowell a RINO as well?  He thinks this is a good first step,  and that passing the bill in the House is better than not passing it.  If it dies in the Senate,  the blame will fall on the dems.

86 The Zen of Obama

Form an article at AT.

His hollowness can no longer be ignored.  It has become his major feature.  The Obama persona has always been pure mythology, with next to nothing holding it together.

87 What galls me more than anything else is that the so-called "conservative" pundits -- Tepid Air, NRO, et. al. -- are saying this is "the best we can do," and that in the name of political expediency, 2012, Good Government and not irritating President Historic First, we must take what we can get. At Hot Air, they said that the Senate will vote down Boehner's bill anyway so today's vote is Kabuki theater.. And JEF and Dingy Harry will keep voting down any budget that the House send their way.. until Boehner capitulates away everything he has to Pelosi, Frank et al and sends in their budget.. Because that's the best we can do.. suck it up, wingnuts. I think JEF wants a default anyway.. What a better way to tear down this nation?

88 If it dies in the Senate,  the blame will fall on the dems.

Posted by: Miss Marple

 

Wanna bet? We got this sack of shit elected. You think we can't play  the blame game? When your own people are turing on the voters who elected them?

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Blue Hen,  McCain is an asshole,  and nowhere did I say I supported him.  And I backed Christine O'Donnell here when a bunch of people were getting pissy about her,  so cool it.

I noted the attack on the Tea party itself, which he refused to retract today. I didn't ask about COD; that isn't the point.

Boehner is NOT negotiating with himself.  He is negotiating with the Senate opposition and is demonstrating responsibility,  while the democrats have not submitted a budget and while Obama has no plan at all?  Even the press has finally caught on to this.

responsibility? Talking up cuts that will likely never happen (the Ghost of Congress Yet to Come) is not responsible. It's a bullshit trick and we deplore it when Dems do it.

I have said my piece.  All of you can continue ranting. Not going to argue this early in the day.  Just think about what I said.

First it was hysterical, and now it's ranting. Again, if someone dares disagree, we see this. It's no different from what McCain and Debbie whatsherproblem-schulz is doing.

90 I could get similar poll results if I ask if people are in favor of personally owing a hooker's-lipstick-red Ferrari.

91 "When you fly to San Juan, I will have you killed."  link

this is insane, what is wrong with the world, people are batshit crazy.

92 "this is insane, what is wrong with the world, people are batshit crazy." These fuckers should wake up in Guantanamo Bay tomorrow morning. Seriously.

93 OK.  Sorry if ranting was insulting.

I retract that.  Go about your discussions.   I just think there is something going on here that is positive and a lot of people are missing it.

I will freely come back and admit my error if I am proven wrong.

94 Mike Pence voting Yes on Boehner plan.

95 Just checking my banned status. Press the "Post" button and listen to the wheels turn.....

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