1 Good morning! and first

2 Rant on:

This is how we get a never ending slew of useless regulations Top Dem uses Salmonella outbreak to hammer GOP over food-safety cuts

A leading House Democrat is citing a recent and deadly Salmonella outbreak to hammer Republicans for slashing food-safety funding.

 I would like to hear the Republicans answer back to these kinds of epic stupid allegations.  But they seldom do. Note that I donÂ’t even mention the less than useless MFM. Nowhere do they even make an attempt to ask the stupid scrunt here how lack of funding contributed to the latest outbreak.

 

The fact of the matter is that all these stupid regulations AND the funding for the FDA have absolutely nothing to do with preventing these kinds of outbreaks. I have beat this drum literally to death but the word really needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

THE ONLY THING FEDERAL REGULATIONS DO IS MAKE HONEST BUSINESS MORE COSTLY AND BUILD EMPIRES FOR BUREAUCRATS.

You see bureaucrats like air conditioned office jobs sitting at a desk moving a piece of paper from basket A to Basket B. So an organization like the FDA has some lower level lackeys who graduate from college with degrees related to food safety in some lose way. These people fresh out of school develop regulations for the industry. These regulations may help in some cases, but mostly they donÂ’t.

But even if the regulations were perfect they do not prevent events like this. You see what the FDA does is create reams of required paperwork that the industry must fill out and report on their “compliance” with the regulations. A plant will create a department of “compliance” specialists who develop workplace rules to assure that the regulations are followed. Then they fill out the required paper and file it, while submitting required reports. The honest plants will do their utmost to comply with the regulations, at the same time they try to make sure that they also have rules to prevent these events. Rues that work written by people with knowledge and experience.

Occasionally an auditor will come to the plant. They may spend an hour touring the plant and then they will spend numerous hours reviewing the paperwork. The required submitted paperwork is also audited meticulously.  The plant and its parent company is judged almost exclusively on how well it completes its paper.

And then along comes events like this. Investigation will almost always reveal that some plant rule and some regulatory rule were violated.  In some cases it is found that they are routinely violated with active knowledge of management. IOW the plant and its management flaunt the law, but are great at filling out paper. But, oh ho scream the “regulators” (both in and out of congress) we new more regulations to halt this. Oh ho screams the agency we need more funding and more people.  So new food safety regulations are developed and more funding is granted and life goes on.

So you say sure Vic, you just hate regulations because you hate government and are a Libertarian anarchist. But folks, you need to look no further than the last event just like this.  The peanut butter plant in GA. It happened there just like I said above. Guess what happened. We go some tough new food safety rules designed to run the small family farm out of business and reduce competition for giants like Cargill and Monsanto. (note that farms had zero to do with the peanut butter event). But thanks to a Democrat Controlled congress and a RINO SOB willing to stab the Republicans in the back during the infamous lame duck session, we got some more useless regulations.

And here we are again. We would be better off to allow the industry to establish an independent food safety program and become self-policing with government whistle-blower protections for the inspectors. It would also be a LOT cheaper.

Rant off

3

...like a laser! 

Jobs report today.

4

Daily Caller on top of the lying jackals setting up a PR event for the shitty jobs report

But even they still refuse to give reliable numbers.

Economic analysts expect poor performance, but nothing terrible enough to nudge the nationÂ’s unemployment rate above JuneÂ’s 9.2 percent showing.

It has to be above 21% now. Whether the shit-weasels will admit it or not we are in Great Depression 2.0. Remember this old rule of thumb back from the old “kidnapped/missing children” myths of old. How many of you actually know someone who has been laid off during this downturn. (That was the question that people said should be asked when ax grinders gave ridiculous numbers for missing children).

Well, in the case of people being laid off, I would say it would be damned near impossible to find someone who didnÂ’t know anyone who had been laid off.

5

Nadar says Obama will get a primary challenger

Perhaps he will run third party again. Problem is his days are gone and will have no impact. Maybe Hillary can be talked into running third party. Now that may do some good.

6

Don't expect stocks to rebound much today; they are falling already in Europe

Oh and according to the MFM this morning in a uniform manner, the stock market plunge yesterday was solely due to the European problems.

And when asked about the stock Markey today on F&F Stuart Varney said it depended on the jobs numbers to be released. When are the media buffoons going to let regular people know the “market” adjusted for those phony jobs numbers long ago.  By the time any official announcement is made the people who run these institutional investors have already known about it for a long time.

 Also something to look for today, a resurge in gold.

7

We screamed when new regulations via executive fiat ordered insurance companies to provide "free" birth control pills

Well how about this one:

Who: The Department of Health and Human Services

What: According to new guidelines under Obamacare, health care providers will be required to provide free "breast-feeding support, supplies, and counseling."

8

A lot of Morons wonder why some of us are so down on CK, well here is why

This column illustrates his neocon roots beginning with the stupid opening statement.

Conventional wisdom holds that the congressional super-committee established by the debt-ceiling deal to propose further deficit reduction will go nowhere. IÂ’m not so sure.

The only “conventional wisdom” I have heard that from is CK. Most of us think it was a damn sell-out and we will get tax hikes and defense cuts. Of course good old CK is jumping on the “Tax reform” bandwagon here too. Forget about it CK, with the gang of 12, 6 commies and an undecided number of RINOs, “reform” means increase.

CK, its time for you to take a sabbatical and get of of DC for about a year. Attend some of those hated Tea Party rallies and frigging talk to some real people for a change.

9

Jonah Goldberg reiterates what a lot of us have been saying on this shitty deal. There are NO spending cuts

It [the deal] "cut" $2 trillion over 10 years, which means Uncle Sam will overspend slightly less. If we hold to the deal -- and who among us doubts that Congress won't keep its word? -- spending will "only" increase by $1.8 trillion over 10 years. That's because in the topsy-turvy, laugh-clown-laugh world of so-called baseline budgeting, we've been talking about trimming the rate of increase.

10 And that's the way it is Friday Morning Aug 5th Day of Doom.

11 QE3.

Coming to a theater near you, real soon. The FED can't resist.

12 Good morning,  Vic.   I m following other morons to the grocery/Sam's Club shopping expedition today.

Fortunately,  I put my pitiful retirement account in CD's,  which will preserve their value.   Sort of.

My stash of antique silver looks like a good investment,  now.

13 Gold at $1667.60 Euro market.
Damn you Glenn Beck!

14 Thanks to Vic, Top Headline Comments should be renamed Pre-DOOM doom instead.

I'd be really angry about it, except that he's right.

So I'm angry at Osama Obama, the terrorists and incompetents that populate his regime and the turd-fondlers in Congress instead.

15

Well thats comforting to know. The attitude and actions in the Senate are not as bad as it gets whew! thanks

16 Coming to a theater near you, real soon. The FED can't resist.

Posted by: Marcus at August 05, 2011 07:11 AM (CHrmZ)

Try two days ago. That is how the new debt ceiling got used up. The fed bought the debt to restore the book keeping that they have been juggling.

"Quantitative Easing is just a stupid made up name for printing money because nobody is buying the debt at returns the gov is willing to pay.

17 Fortunately,  I put my pitiful retirement account in CD's,  which will preserve their value.   Sort of.

I have some there myself as well. You need some liquid assets for short term emergencies. I also have some gold. But mostly I have stock in a couple of really safe blue chip companies.

18 Thanks to Vic, Top Headline Comments should be renamed Pre-DOOM doom instead.

I'd be really angry about it, except that he's right.

The problem is that IS the headlines everywhere this morning, and most of the past mornings.

Ralph Nader was one ray of sunshine this morning.

19 In case anyone thought that the part last night at the White House was a simple cook-out, guests (and performers) included Stevie Wonder, Chris Rock, and Herbie Hancock.

Byron York retweeted Chris Rock's bragging about being there,  which is how I know.

20 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)

Taken altogether, yesterdays market, the effect on yields, the upcoming auction and today's market news will be the final nails.

It is all those factors combined, not just the debt ceiling increase.

21 Oh and Europe is not helping. Look at the ECB's bond purchases today and the spreads on Italian CDS.

22 Spot gold prices

http://is.gd/tNy1ZY

23 Posted by: Miss Marple at August 05, 2011 07:18 AM (Fo83G)
Why am I (constantly) reminded of Rome and Nero?

24 I was talking about the latest round of QE, it has already happened.

25 Watching the Weather Channel a moment ago, and apparently they've added a short news section. One of the stories was that Congress has a new lowest approval rating ever. The stated cause?... Republicans didn't compromise enough. !?!? WTF? I can barely tolerate TWC already with their global warming bullshit.

26 Oh there is no doubt that Europe contributed to the market run down.

27 Posted by: dogfish at August 05, 2011 07:24 AM (catbt)
It is all about the repetition, comrade.
Eventually the incessant drumbeat of evil Republican actions will permeate your soul and influence your conscious actions!

Obama/Holder 2012 (I know, but at least this gets Holder out of DoJ)

28 Posted by: dogfish at August 05, 2011 07:24 AM (catbt)

The WTC was bought out by Discovery some years ago. it immediately turned to shit. If someone enterprising reporter decided to dig I wouldn't be surprised to learn that it had become another entity under the Soros umbrella.

Of course since it is not favorable to Republicans that will never happen.

29 #23  Because,  dear Hrothgar,  you know ancient history and can see the parallels. 

Unlike many of our smart people in DC,  who think this is normal behavior.

The fires of Rome were blamed on the early Christians,  which is why so many were sent to the lions (and other even more gruesome deaths).

Note the increasingly acid name-calling against the tea party people.  I bet if Obama thought he could get away with it,  he'd set up an arena and throw Palin and Bachmann to the beasts.

30 Posted by: Miss Marple at August 05, 2011 07:28 AM (Fo83G)
And we have corrupt Senators too. 
Coincidence, I think not!

31 He'd throw more than Palin and Bachmann to the beasts, too. After all, as he implied at that fancy dinner he'd be king if it wasn't for this messy democracy getting in his way.

Thanks for the gold chart, Vic.

32 LOL, I view the story of "Nero burning Rome" and throwing the Christians to the lions as the 911 truthers of the day.

Historians say that Nero wasn't even in Rome at the time of the great fire.

33 I can't afford gold.  How much is a couple of tons of zinc?

34 How much is a couple of tons of zinc?

A penny per 2 grams

35 Historians say that Nero wasn't even in Rome at the time of the great fire.

But did he fiddle?

36 I don't think they even had fiddles in 64ad (?)

37 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:34 AM (M9Ie6)
Fake but accurate baby!

38 36 I don't think they even had fiddles in 64ad (?) Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:39 AM (M9Ie6) He would likely have played a lyre, if he did any playing at all. The story seems to stem from the peculiar pleasure he took in rebuilding Rome after the fire, setting aside the very heart of the city (around what later became the Colosseum) for an enormous palace and estate for himself.

39 I can't afford gold.

Then buy silver. You can get 90% silver coin that cannot be confiscated if they go after bullion and silver eagles are way below value now. Once this mother forker 'splodes it will be priceless. $150.00 - $250.00 an oz and old coin will be an easy way to trade. Gold's a pain in the ass.
This place is very competitive and reliable

40 33 I can't afford gold. How much is a couple of tons of zinc? Posted by: Case at August 05, 2011 07:35 AM (DYR2Q) Me neither. That's why I'm hoarding chocolate, toilet paper and tampons. That stuff is gold to women. When you men aren't looking, your wives will be trading your gold stash for my Aunt Flo preparedness kits.

41 Yeah its one of those widespread myths like Marie Antoinette and "let them eat cake".

From what Jefferson had to say about her, she was really a terrible person who steered the King's policies in the wrong direction (much like Democrats) but she never made that statement. What she actually said was for the bakers to sell the higher priced bread to the peasants for the same price as the the lower class stuff.

42 "Note the increasingly acid name-calling against the tea party people." The name-calling is their pay-no-attention-to-the-man-behind-the-curtain desperation. The word is spreading among otherwise politically disengaged people that the cuts are a sham because of baseline budgeting. The political class have no choice but to double-down on this big lie because if "hey, wait a minute. . . " spreads far enough out of the Tea Party, then the gravy train will go off the rails.

43 So I have to give up on the fantasy that he played The Devil Went Dow To Georgia?

44 Sorry the link was incomplete. Golden Eagle Coins

45

He will not rest.........until every American who wants a job...........has a job.

Wed. Aug. 3rd

10:35 am.......Obama rolls out of bed to receive the damn daily briefing.

2:00 pm........Obama holds cabinet meeting.

3:15 pm.........Obama meets with Sec. State Hillary Clinton

3:45 pm.........Obama meets with Attn. Gen Eric Holder

5:00pm......Obama departs for Chicago and a $35,000 a plate fundraiser

Thur. Aug. 4th

10:30am.......Obama rolls out of bed because of that damn daily briefing.

Uhhhhh, that's it for today!  Oh........COOKOUT EVERYBODY! 

Fri. Aug. 5th

10:00am......Obama gets up early to receive the daily briefing

11:00am.......Obama delivers remarks about blah, blah, blah....

2:15pm.........Obama departs for Camp David for much needed R & R

There he is, folks!  Focused....Like......A.....Laser! 

46 Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 05, 2011 07:44 AM (cbyrC)
Yes, if you upset the "Ignorance is Knowledge" theme, you have trouble on your hands.

47 What time does the unemployment report get released?

48 @44 You forgot about his special private 'basketball' hour with Reggie Love. All that partying doesn't satisfy a man's need for 'basketball' and Kal Penn is back in Hollywood.

49 "Note the increasingly acid name-calling against the tea party people."

Well when you have your own propaganda arm masquerading as independent news...
Why Not!

50 What time does the unemployment report get released?

About Apocalypse+1.

51 Nothing but blank underneath "Headlines 8 - 5- 11"

What are we supposed to say?

52 Methos, unemployment numbers at 8:30 am, gives the futures a while to go crazy before the market opens.

53 Nero fancied himself a great poet and often appeared in plays, singing his compositions while plucking a lyre. Or strumming, whatever they did with lyres.

54

Ten Things you need to know, including time to jobs report and a babe

55 From the ONT: Except for panties, I'd still wear those, cause nobody wants random ick in their pooter. Posted by: Peaches at August 04, 2011 10:06 PM (KLXYU) Why would you settle for random ick, when you could have cool Czech, instead??

56 52 Methos, unemployment numbers at 8:30 am, gives the futures a while to go crazy before the market opens. Posted by: Retread at August 05, 2011 07:51 AM (BO5ap) Somehow, the expression "unexpectedly!" comes to mind...

57 Vic, reference to your Cargill post above. I can't help but wonder what the fuck people do with their food. We gonna toss away millions of pounds of ground turkey because people in this country are so damn stupid and lazy they can't cook it? So damn filthy they can't wash their hands? What the hell are they doing? Eating it raw?

58 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:53 AM (M9Ie6)

Heh. Do they always have a countdown clock for the report up in the corner or is that a dramatic touch for special occasions?

59 Yeah its one of those widespread myths like Marie Antoinette and "let them eat cake".
 
The way I heard it explained, the 'cake' was the stuff stuck to the sides and bottom of the pan when they baked bread. Pan scrapings.
 
Good ranting this morning Vic. Yesterday, I linked to an article via Drudge on 608 new regulations issued in July alone. Gee, I doubt if that will hurt businesses any.

60

The plant and its parent company is judged almost exclusively on how well it completes its paper.-- Posted by Vic way up there.

In the oilfield we call that "pencil-whipping" the documentation.

61 "Everything hangs on the BLS Jobs Report, which comes out at 8:30 ET. Analysts are expecting 85K new jobs and 113K new private sector jobs, with the headline unemployment rate remaining at 9.2%. Another big miss like last month could be catastrophic."

Not making any predictions, but when have they ever been on the money lately?  It seems like estimations are always higher.

62 We gonna toss away millions of pounds of ground turkey because people in this country are so damn stupid and lazy they can't cook it?

No, we are going to have another huge regulatory farm bill so Cargill can get bigger. We'll have a key RINO break the filibuster in the Senate and the House will negotiate.

The House lords will then get castles and positions from the Crown and the rest of us will get the shaft.

63 That quote has got to be Andrew Jackson. Who else was that badass? "Motherfucker, if I wanted him dead, he wouldn't be walking around bitching about a beating, he'd be in a coffin."

64 I can't afford gold. How much is a couple of tons of zinc?
Posted by: Case at August 05, 2011 07:35 AM (DYR2Q)

- War Nickles
- Mixed Silver Bags can still be had
- Call your local police qualification range an inquire about buying spent cartridges for reloading
- Order 1/2 dollars from your bank, sort out the silver ones, deposit the rest, repeat

Buying one roll of silver dimes each paycheck from the link at 44 might not be a bad idea.

65 Plagiarized post from myself last night on the ONT --
 
More AP goodness:
 
WASHINGTON (AP) - Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton on Thursday accused the Syrian government of killing more than 2,000 of its own citizens during its ongoing brutal crackdown against opposition protesters as the Obama administration moved to further isolate President Bashar Assad and his inner circle. The administration is unhappy with Assad's actions in trying to quell the five-month-old uprising.
 
Unhappy. Is that above or below concerned? This diplomacy stuff always confuses me.

66 Do they always have a countdown clock for the report up in the corner or is that a dramatic touch for special occasions?

I don't know, I was trying to do a historical search on stuff from Tax Cheat Timmy and found that site.

67 I have some there myself as well. You need some liquid assets for short term emergencies. I also have some gold. But mostly I have stock in a couple of really safe blue chip companies.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:15 AM (M9Ie6)

Care to share?

68 Couldn't sleep last night, so I watched Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible, Part II instead. Magnificent film! If you can, watch the DVD from the Criterion Collection (warning - it's pricey). It includes a lecture by a Uni. of Chicago professor on all the symbolism - from traditional Christian to Freud - worked into the metaphorical imagery employed throughout. It's odd that a movie made during the very heyday of stone-cold Stalinism is in fact anti-Stalinist, Ivan himself clearly meant to represent Uncle Joe. But perhaps the best thing I can say about the movie is this: it's perhaps the only historical costume drama I've seen that doesn't feel like a costume drama. After the movie is over, you feel like "you were there." Yes, Ivan WAS "terrible," but he was also a complex human being and not just a caricature. The movie allows you to see his dark side, yet empathize with him. Which may be why Stalin allowed it to exist.

69 Watch CNBC for a while, if you can stand it. They love those countdown clocks.

70 Yeah Vic, Post that list of blue chips and watch your portfolio grow.

71 Vic,  he didn't burn Rome.  It was an accident caused by a cooking fire in the slums.

But the people were angry and he needed a scapegoat,  so he blamed the Christians,  which were already viewed with suspicion by the pagan population.

72 I haven't looked it up, but I will bet money the quote is from a fight that erupted on the floor of the US Senate during the debate over Kansas and if it should have been as a slave or free state.

73 64 - Order 1/2 dollars from your bank, sort out the silver ones, deposit the rest, repeat
 
Jean, very few people know about this trick. I have around 300 40% silver half $s acquired by sorting. Since they don't circulate, they don't get picked through for silver ones.

74 The drive by attack on Perry, in the Texas Tribune, yesterday, Vic, leaves out that the major critic of that procedure, is a proponent of the embryonic stem cells'
placebo which has gotten us nowhere in 5 years.

75 The asterisk is a link.

76 64 I can't afford gold. How much is a couple of tons of zinc?
Posted by: Case at August 05, 2011 07:35 AM (DYR2Q)

- War Nickles
- Mixed Silver Bags can still be had
- Call your local police qualification range an inquire about buying spent cartridges for reloading
- Order 1/2 dollars from your bank, sort out the silver ones, deposit the rest, repeat

Buying one roll of silver dimes each paycheck from the link at 44 might not be a bad idea.
Search for a local coin show and go there. Generally you can find some bargains there and most dealers are willing to haggle a bit. I can usually get 10% off if I spend a couple hundred dollars or so.   Half dollar mining is pretty much over these days, very very few silver halves left in the system.

77 The way I heard it explained, the 'cake' was the stuff stuck to the sides and bottom of the pan when they baked bread. Pan scrapings.

There are a lot of conflicting things said about it. Some say she allowed for them to eat the more expensive bread, others say she never said it at all and the whole thing was made up.

BTW, her chief crime for which she was executed was incest with her son. It was a total fabrication. And on that score I do hope the DC elite have studied their history.

When the collapse comes and the unwashed masses come storming out of the cities because the 3 day supply of "bread" in the stores is gone, they really don't give a honey badger damn. There will be a lot of "committees of public safety".

78 Heh. Rosie O'Donnell link: Yellow Bird. I don't know why, but I've always liked that tune.

79

In the oilfield we call that "pencil-whipping" the documentation.

Posted by: Mr. Dave at August 05, 2011 07:58 AM (4fRSk)

I have interfaced with three major federal regulatory agencies during my working life. I have found they all work the same way.

80 Re unemploymet:  Indiana announced their figures day before yesterday and we had some cities jumping 1% in unemployed.

Statewide we went up about 3/4 per cent.

81   64  73 - Now that's a pretty good trick.  To mine my bank for silver.  cool.

82 "When the collapse comes and the unwashed masses come storming out of the cities because the 3 day supply of "bread" in the stores is gone. . . " It won't be the "bread" part. It will be the "unwashed" part. If SHTF, sanitation failure and consequent disease is going to kill or consign-to-death upwards of a quarter of the urban population within a month. Hunger takes a while. Thirst is effectively immediate.

83 Interesting Peaches brought up the idea that women wear panties because they worry about "things" entering their cooter. My wife is the same way. It doesn't even ocur to a guy that something might want to crawl in there. But why not? It's warm, it's moist, plenty of space for something small, nice and soft and comfy. And it would be hard to dislodge. I mean, just look at Richard Geer...

84 Half dollar mining is pretty much over these days, very very few silver halves left in the system.

Posted by: Mister Money at August 05, 2011 08:08 AM (wN82N)

That's too bad then. I did mine about 6 years ago; should have guessed that horse would be beat to death by now.

I agree coin shows are the best places to buy & sell.

85 "It doesn't even ocur to a guy that something might want to crawl in there." Why do we have underclothes? Once again: Sanitation. It's not that we have to bleach underclothes because they are white. Underclothes are white so that we can bleach them.

86 It won't be the "bread" part. It will be the "unwashed" part. If SHTF, sanitation failure and consequent disease is going to kill or consign-to-death upwards of a quarter of the urban population within a month.

Under normal conditions there is only a three day supply of food in the big chain stores. During periods of unrest that disappears in hours. People will begin starving within a few days. Within a week dogs, cats, and rats will disappear.

After that, and a lot before, they will begin streaming out of the city to the nearby burbs. Within a another few weeks they will begin eating each other.

That is when the disease and mass die off will start.

87 Sure glad this post-racial event didn't happen!
http://tinyurl.com/cricketsagain

88 @87: Well yeah, Vic. We can always eat rats and goldfish. But where will we get our pron??

89 One more headline to recycle from last night's ONT  -- btw I will hunt a link if anyone wants it, but it has AP spin.......
 
via AP, you will all be pleased to know that our Senate compatriots have folded like a cheap suit once again. The FAA is back baby:
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Congress has reached a bipartisan compromise to end a two-week partial shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration that has idled tens of thousands of workers and cost the government about $30 million a day in uncollected airline ticket taxes, Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid said Thursday.

Bipartisan means "Repubs, drop your cocks and grab your socks" as seen in this additional info:
 
The bill includes language that gives Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood the authority to continue subsidized service to the 13 communities if he decides it's necessary.

Democrats said they expect the administration to effectively waive or negate the cuts.
 
Balls of steel (wool) I tell you.

90

Under normal conditions there is only a three day supply of food in the big chain stores. During periods of unrest that disappears in hours.

We've seen it over and over when hurricanes approach.  The shelves go bare, everybody bugs out, the roads are clogged and they come out to the country and trash it out acting like complete savages.  The local police called some of us to help out at the truck stops because they were overwhelmed.

91 vic - good rant on  FDA regulators.  The cosmetics industry is self-regulated and rarely has problems.. each batch is tested by a microbiologist for nasties..  The food industry could do the same were the FDA not killing off all the small competitors for the giants.

92

Our currency will be joining these soon. Note the last one all the way at the bottom.

93 At first intending to challenge Sumner to a duel, Brooks consulted with fellow South Carolina Rep. Laurence M. Keitt on dueling etiquette. Keitt instructed him that dueling was for gentlemen of equal social standing, and suggested that Sumner occupied a lower social status comparable to a drunkard due to the coarse language he had used during his speech in which he insulted Butler and called Douglas "a noisome, squat, and nameless animal".[7][8] Brooks thus decided to "punish" Sumner with a cane.
 
On the afternoon of May 22, Brooks confronted Sumner as he sat writing letters at his desk in the almost empty Senate chamber. Brooks was accompanied by Keitt and Henry A. Edmundson of Virginia. Brooks said, "Mr. Sumner, I have read your speech twice over carefully. It is a libel on South Carolina, and Mr. Butler, who is a relative of mine." As Sumner began to stand up, Brooks began beating Sumner with his thick gutta-percha cane with a gold head. Sumner was trapped under the heavy desk (which was bolted to the floor), but Brooks continued to strike Sumner until the latter wrenched the desk from the floor in an attempt to escape. By this time, Sumner was blinded by his own blood, and he staggered up the aisle and collapsed, lapsing into unconsciousness. Brooks continued to beat Sumner until he broke his cane, then quietly left the chamber. Several other senators attempted to help Sumner, but were blocked by Keitt, who was brandishing a pistol and shouting "Let them be!" Keitt was censured for his actions.
 
Sumner was unable to return to his Senate duties for more than three years while he recovered. He later became one of the most influential Radical Republicans throughout the conduct of the Civil War, and on through the early years of Reconstruction.

94 I always read the cane had a silver head. But would rather not discuss this episode as it will surely result in yet another flame war.

95 Good God though, let's hope this isn't Panic Day on Wall Street... I REALLY wish the jobs numbers didn't come out today...

96 Well if its too late to be a bank silver miner I can still follow my dream of being a zinc tycoon.

97 Under normal conditions there is only a three day supply of food in the big chain stores. During periods of unrest that disappears in hours.

I never understood people bashing Beck for advocating food storage.

Even if you just lose your job, it's a relief to not have to worry about eating for the immediate future.

98 Its here good doctored numbers

http://is.gd/0K7o4J

99

And here we are again. We would be better off to allow the industry to establish an independent food safety program and become self-policing with government whistle-blower protections for the inspectors. It would also be a LOT cheaper.

Rant off

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

 

But Vic, we all know that the evil corporations want to poison and kill their customers.  It's in their business model:

1. Put poison in food.

2. Sell to customer

3. Customer dies

4. Profit!!

100 "Under normal conditions there is only a three day supply of food in the big chain stores." Vic, It's not the food. It's the water. Cryptosporidium is in just about all surface water, and we are not equipped to deal with it. As for streaming out into the suburbs, they will not be streaming much beyond areas dependent on public sanitation.

101 90) the whole thing is about Card Check, not rural airports, but Duke and Duke failed to get an up to date copy of the Crop Reports, and has gone long on pork bellies,

102 Your words for today are:

green jobs
sustainable green economy
historic victory
laser-like focus
long term growth
clean energy
global economic market synergies

103 9.1%

You're welcome.

104 Keep in mind two things on these numbers

1) it takes 200K jobs to break even
2) They always lie

105 And next month it will be back up to 9.3, you liar.

106 Ha! So they fiddled with the numbers, despite y'all bashing Nero. Jay Carney will suddenly reverse himself and give Barky credit for creating jobs.

107 the whole thing is about Card Check, not rural airports, but Duke and Duke failed to get an up to date copy of the Crop Reports, and has gone long on pork bellies,

Posted by: Captain Smith at August 05, 2011 08:33 AM (Pjih7)

The union shit was in the original bill but not the CR to keep it going. The airport subsidies were however in the CR.

108 I see they've done a little number fudging again. Wow, unemployment down to 9.1%. That's strange because a report yesterday said that unemployment was up in 90% of the major cities. How can that be? It must be an Obarky miracle.....

109    9.1 ?   Putts been hiring Czars again?

110 Did we get adjustments to previous reports? It seems to me the mildly above expectations number doesn't really help if folks see that the last couple of months were 'accidentally' high.

111 That's strange because a report yesterday said that unemployment was up in 90% of the major cities. How can that be? It must be an Obarky miracle.....

Posted by: Donna at August 05, 2011 08:38 AM (OVCfn)

Recall the glory days of the Soviet Politburo how every report that came out was all roses and sunshine.

Well, we are back to those glory days.

112 glad jobs numbers not worse.  however, most areas of Virginia seeing rising unemployment & our state has been spared the bad so far.  our #s depend a great deal on govt (in NoVa) & military (NoVa & Tidewater).

113 WRT the birth control free deal, how could that be justified?  There would be an uproar if it was mandated that non-voluntary forms of inserted birth control was required, yet there is no guarantee that free birth control will get used.  Shouldn't the reward for unwanted pregnancies be addressed instead?

114 Look for the birth/death adder which is always a SWAG.

115 From Vic's link @99:

Last month was revised higher from +18K to +46K.

116 Unemployment decline due to labor force participation rate decline to 63.9%

Oh, I see...

117

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Hiring picked up slightly in July and the unemployment rate dipped to 9.1 percent, an optimistic sign after the worst day on Wall Street in nearly three years.

 

How convenient. The market gets massacred and the next day the jobs number is better than expected

118 109 I see they've done a little a LOT of number fudging again. Wow, unemployment down to 9.1%. That's strange because a report yesterday said that unemployment was up in 90% of the major cities. How can that be? It must be an Obarky miracle..... FTFY I trust no one will be TOO shocked when the numbers are subsequently "revised."

119 One of the talking heads on CNBC actually made a bit of sense: The employment number gets a seasonal adjustment for teachers laid off in July.

That's where they hide the fiddle to get to the number they wanted, no doubt.

120

"Rents Too High Guy" evicted from rent control apartment.

Remember, this guy is also running in the Republican Primary this year.

121 I am so relieved to know that Dear Reader will speak to us today at 11 am. It's been so long since I've heard his soothing words (this is literally true as I avoid his speeches like the plague).

122 LOL, reading that article, he is only paying $873 a month for a ground floor apartment in NYC.

And the SOB is complaining that the rent is too high???

He can kiss my ass.

123 122 i don't know.....he was celebrating at his star studded bday bash last night.....dancing barefoot in the rose garden and hip hopping in the east room.....i'm not sure he'll be up in time.........

124

After yesterday's fiasco you knew the employment # would be sweetened a bit today.To be revised closer to True next month.

The whole gv't Economy #s system is Big Lie stuff. Pure propaganda for gullible people.

125 You can get 90% silver coin that cannot be confiscated if they go after bullion and silver eagles are way below value now.

BWahahahahahaaaa! 

126 #25 - The Weather Channel is totally in the tank for libs. When OK used to have weather other than "dry roast", it was all I could do to endure Al Roker while finding out the prediction for the day.

127 Happy days are here again, comrades!!

128 Unemployment Drops, Happy Days are Here Again, Obama Greatest President Evar!!!

129

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Nearly 15% of the U.S. population relied on food stamps in May, according to the United States Department of Agriculture.

The number of Americans using the government's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) -- more commonly referred to as food stamps -- shot to an all-time high of 45.8 million in May, the USDA reported. That's up 12% from a year ago, and 34% higher than two years ago.

 

Recovery Summer II: The Welfaring

130 Nice to know a commie like Chavez still believes in something transcending humanity...

Hugo Chavez seeks help from indigenous deities to beat cancer

Hell's maw awaits...

131 P I I G S !

132 68 Couldn't sleep last night, so I watched Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible, Part II instead. .. Yes, Ivan WAS "terrible," but he was also a complex human being and not just a caricature. The movie allows you to see his dark side, yet empathize with him.

Which may be why Stalin allowed it to exist.

Posted by: CoolCzech at August 05, 2011 08:01 AM (kUaEF

"Terrible" doesn't mean "bad" in this case. It means "inspiring fear and awe." The Russian word (grazn if my memory is correct)is closely related to the word for thunder.

He is still a hero in Russia, I believe.

133 Nice to know a commie like Chavez still believes in something transcending humanity...

But he considers them lesser gods. Lesser than him, that is.

134 I bet the idiot thinks that no one should be paying more than $400/month for an apartment in NY.

Yeah. I checked the last apartment I rented in CA a few months ago. It was a 3 BR townhouse in Union City. It is now going for $2,000/month.

Note that Union City is out there a ways from SF and Oakland.

135 Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) can you get the Ghost of Mark Haines to do something about Jim Cramer? Or get rid of Imus on FBN so I can watch it before 9:15 am?

136 Bloomberg via HotAir

The jobless rate declined as 193,000 people left the labor force and the number of unemployed dropped by 156,000. The share of the eligible population holding a job declined to 58.1 percent, the lowest since July 1983.
---
So +115k really means -78k. Awesome. And no one seems to know what the birth/death fudge was.

You know what's even better for markets than bad economic numbers? Mediocre economic numbers that everyone believes are lies.

137 Actual unemployment is probably > 21%.

138 OMG!

139 Nice to know a commie like Chavez still believes in something transcending humanity...

Paralleling that:

"Dutch rethink Christianity for a doubtful world"Money Quote:

A study by the Free University of Amsterdam found that one-in-six clergy in the Dutch Protestant Church was either agnostic or atheist.

140 Another day, another dollop of doom.

141 "A man jumped the White House fence, but after a brief chase, the Secret Service was able to talk President Obama into coming back and finishing his term."
Conan ~ August 3, 2011

142 Mob beatings at WI state fair according to Drudge headline.
One of these days, these mobs are going to pick on the wrong person and then all hells gonna break loose.

143 _{"Labor Force Participation Rate Drops To 63.9%, Lowest Since January 1984"}"While we still await for BLS.gov to finally come back up online half an hour after printing the actual NFP number,"
_{"NFP Prints At 117K, Beats Expectations Of 85K, Unemployment Rate Down To 9.1%""Obama To Speak On Jobs At 11:00 am, BLS Commissioner To Testify On July Jobs At 12:45pm"}
"Fannie Demands Another $5.1 Billion In Aid From Treasury In Q2, $103.8 Billion Total Since Conservatorship"

144 Imus has to be on early because after 9:00 AM he starts to sober up.

145 One of these days, these mobs are going to pick on the wrong person and then all hells gonna break loose.

That's what the "organizers" are hoping and planning for.

146 That's what the "organizers" are hoping and planning for.

Yep

147 can you get the Ghost of Mark Haines to do something about Jim Cramer? Or get rid of Imus on FBN so I can watch it before 9:15 am?

Sorry friend, I am no medium.  And I only send people to the Underworld, I don't bring them back;  that is a one-way trip. 

To other news, guess which nation is most widely believed to be responsible for this:

U.S. Cybercops Caught Flat-Footed by Massive Global Cyberattack

148

Rant off

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

Not a bad rant at all! Was it bourbon fueled? If so, what brand?

Where I worked in the 90s, the regulations stated that according to the data from a pH test strip, a Coke spilled on the floor was to be treated as a chemical spill, with full HazMat response.

149 The Drudge story doesn't have the whole story. As usual it was unidentified yoots:

Here is the local account

Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (Radio 620) that dozens to hundreds of young blacks were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a Fair spokeswoman, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

More of the flash mob BS hate crimes that are not hate crimes. .

150

How do I put this?

I trust those job numbers the way I would trust David Wu to babysit my kids.

151 _{"Clearly John Boehner Wrote This Press Release Before The Jobs Report Came Out"}

152 Where I worked in the 90s, the regulations stated that according to the data from a pH test strip, a Coke spilled on the floor was to be treated as a chemical spill, with full HazMat response.

We didn't go that far on the Chem spill BS, but we did on the stupid labeling stuff and MSDS.

153

CK, its time for you to take a sabbatical and get of of DC for about a year. Attend some of those hated Tea Party rallies and frigging talk to some real people for a change.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:05 AM (M9Ie6)

CK lost me a long time ago when he told the Tea Partiers (Paraphrasing) something along the lines of shut and let the Republicans take over.. 

It's time for them to go home or something like that.. 

Damn condescending

154 Posted by: nickless at August 05, 2011 09:16 AM (MMC8r)

I used to listen to Imus while commuting into NYC. But this was before the "nappy headed 'ho" comments. His show was fairly good, with some interesting interviews.

Now? unbearable. Just awful. How he gets ratings is beyond me.

155 Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (Radio 620) that dozens to hundreds of young blacks were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a Fair spokeswoman, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

More of the flash mob BS hate crimes that are not hate crimes. .

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)

 

Eric Holder will get right on that. Right after he gets done suing every state in the union. All 57 of them

156 From pure observation.  People who were already working in a job were able to switch jobs in the last three months. 

People who haven't had a job for a while or were laid off or fired from their jobs are having a terrible time finding a job.

If you are employed you can switch jobs and if you haven't been employed they don't seem to want to hire you, preferring instead to steal an employee from another company.

157 And I only send people to the Underworld, I don't bring them back;  that is a one-way trip.

Then please send a message to Mark with the next guy you dispatch.

158

The jobless rate declined as 193,000 people left the labor force and the number of unemployed dropped by 156,000. The share of the eligible population holding a job declined to 58.1 percent, the lowest since July 1983.

By the end of Barry's term he can get it down to 0% unemployment if no one has a job and everyone has given up looking for one. Success!!

159 What: According to new guidelines under Obamacare, health care providers will be required to provide free "breast-feeding support, supplies, and counseling."



How did we survive as a species without government intervention?

This is one of numerous examples of the government interfering with natural selection. Seriously, if you are too stupid to figure how to successfully perform a fundamental task like breast feeding your baby (it's so easy a cave(wo)man can do it!), then Darwin needs to bitch slap you. Really.

160 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)

After hundreds of years of discrimination and murder, African-Americans in this country are now expected to just ignore everything that has happened to them? When was the last time you were thrown out of a restaurant for being white? These are not racist beatings, they are an unfortunate result of 400 years of slavery. I hope they stop, but to call them "hate crimes" is racist in and of itself!

You should be ashamed!

161 butt welded cats
side welded cat joints
cat fillets
cat filters
cat litter box welders
welded cat butts
filtered butt welds
jointed butt welds
butted butt welds
filtered cat filters
catted filter cats

162 "Robert Reich: You Can Officially Blame The Double Dip On The Republicans"
here it comes..

163 Awww.  President Prissypants had quite the party last night:

The evening began with chicken, ribs, hamburgers, hot dogs, pasta and salad in the Rose Garden, and then four kinds of pie: apple, peach, huckleberry and cherry. At the end of the dinner, First Lady Michelle Obama and daughters Malia and Sasha presented the president with a cake, before the party moved indoors.

In the East Room, performers included R&B singer Ledisi, jazz musician Herbie Hancock and Wonder. The president encouraged everyone to dance – and they did. Lots of kids were on hand and they stole the show as they danced in center of the East Room.

Celebrities on hand included  Jay-Z, Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson, basketball stars Charles Barkley and Grant Hill, comedian Chris Rock, actor Hill Harper and Oprah WinfreyÂ’s best friend, Gayle King. (Last year, Obama celebrated his birthday with a small dinner with friends, including Winfrey, while his wife and kids were on vacation.)

164 mpurin - note also that is "healthcare providers" to provide "free".  It not mandated insurance coverage.

The way I interpret that if a woman walks in to a Dr's office and asks for it the Dr has to provide this shit free of charge.

IIANM that is theft or conversion of services and is illegal. Of course the government can do anything.

165 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:21 AM (M9Ie6)

The "HazMAt" responders were all high-seniority teamster scum. But one of them was okay. So when I saw something that was ridiculous, I would grab him to stand there with his thumb up his as while I cleaned up the "spill." It usually took 30 seconds, saved us $100s in disposal costs and overtime for the teamster scum. He got to stand around and get paid, so he was happy.

166 First ticks are up as you would expect.

167 Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (Radio 620) that dozens to hundreds of young blacks were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a Fair spokeswoman, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

More of the flash mob BS hate crimes that are not hate crimes. .

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)

Well Al Gore did just call for an "American Style" Arab Spring.

168 Sounds to me like just about every food item on list is stuff Michelle would not let us eat.

169 Whenever I hear about these flash mobs, I always think of that woman's voice on the radio in the movie, _The_Warriors_.

170 Then please send a message to Mark with the next guy you dispatch.

Done! 

171 "A huge relief to market and economy watchers: the non-farm payrolls report for July was surprisingly strong."
the fireworks video is over the top

172

Yes, while the Obamas were having a closed press, carefully concealed b-day bash with their a-list celebrity friends last night, State Fair goers in Wisconsin were being brutally beaten by gangs of blacks in a racial mob attack.  Story on Drudge. 

Isn't life grand under Obama? 

173 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at August 05, 2011 09:30 AM (LH6ir)

Oh we had the occasional haz mat spill but normal watch-standers (trained of course) responded to it. Usually it was either oil, hydraulic fluid, or the most hazardous, Chlorine. Now that was some ugly shit.

174

Ooh, stocks jumped, and the talking heads are blaming the better unemployment numbers.

Oddly - the same fuckers blame layoffs and the resulting higher profit when the market goes up too.

Global warming logic.

175 More of the flash mob BS hate crimes that are not hate crimes. .

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:19 AM (M9Ie6)

Organized with cell phones paid for by you and I. 

176 I loved mark haines...he was a part of my growing up.

177

Don't anyone kid yourself on the unemployment figures, and don't let the Obama administration spin you.   The key sentence in the Bureau of Labor Statistics release this morning is this one:  "The civilian labor force participation rate edged down in July to 63.9 percent."   According to the actual BLS data, the civilian labor force was actually down 193,000 people and the number of employed was actually down 38,000.   There were 156,000 fewer unemployed because fewer people were counted as part of the labor force to begin with.  

In other words, we could get unemployment down to 0% if everyone just stopped working and started, oh, hunting and gathering for food.

178 "Sounds to me like just about every food item on list is stuff Michelle would not let us eat." The Marxist, zero-sum thinking is so strong with that one that she cannot see past the fact that every bite of a delicious food somebody else takes is a bite that she cannot have.

179 I feel the DOOM upon me.

180

Whenever I hear about these flash mobs, I always think of that woman's voice on the radio in the movie, _The_Warriors_.

HA. Great Reference.

181 Dow up 150 at the open. Suckers, I think.

182

Morning, all! 

Well, I for one am desperate for something positive to think about today.  If I have to focus one more moment on the Idiot in Chief and his ilk's determination to destroy our country, I will go mad.  I'll end up like Ford Prefect, pretending I'm a lemon and jumping in and out of a small lake that I imagine is a large martini.

Anyone have any kitten pictures to share?  I know Monty doesn't like to post DOOM threads on Fridays, but that also means we are deprived of DOOM kitteh.  DOOM kitteh gets me through the day!

183 185 Dow up 150 at the open. Suckers, I think.

Suckers?  Or bargain hunters?

184 @176 a-list?  When did Tom Hanks last have a hit? Herbie Hancock and Orca's pal?

b-list.  Definitely b-list.

185 The way I interpret that if a woman walks in to a Dr's office and asks for it the Dr has to provide this shit free of charge.


Hmmm, maybe I'll walk into my doctor's office with my 6 year old in tow and ask for help with breast feeding.

Wonder how that will go over?

186

More of the flash mob BS hate crimes that are not hate crimes. .

I wanted to avoid brining race into it, and maybe I've been reading too much drudge, but it seems like black youths have been using social media to organize flash mobs that result in violence or theft.

It seems to be an epidemic in Chicago and it happened here in the burgh for the first time a few days ago.

 

187 thanks for useful information dude
New Car Reviews, Pictures, Prices, and Specs

188

#167.  Posted by: Jane D'oh, collecting pitchforks, tar and feathers at August 05, 2011 09:28 AM (UOM4

 

Let them eat BBQ

189 In other words, we could get unemployment down to 0% if everyone just stopped working and started, oh, hunting and gathering for food.


And breast feeding!

190

I can haz valu-rite

191

How does one "buy oil"? What is the ticker symbol?

192 #186

Try this kitteh:

http://tinyurl.com/3fzbdcd

193

Witnesses told WTMJ-AM (Radio 620) that dozens to hundreds of young blacks were beating white people as they left the fair late Thursday night. Patrice Harris, a Fair spokeswoman, said a police alert she was given indicated four people were hurt.

One of the best ways to get the real news on these flash mobs is to search Twitter for keywords.  It's amazing (not) what people will tell you on Twitter that no one in the media will ever report.

194

I can tell you where these violent racial mob attacks are NOT happening.

In states with strong self-defense and carry and conceal laws. 

195

Well, I for one am desperate for something positive to think about today.

Well just look at all the breathless news reports on msm re the "postive jobs report"  ha, ha, ha, ha.  The headlines are quite amusing.

Stocks were moving higher Friday, the morning after the Dow lost more than 500 points Thursday and other major U.S. indexes plummeted roughly 5%, as  news that the U.S. economy added 117,000 jobs in July gave investors a reason to feel optimistic amid rising uncertainty about global economic growth.

 

196 There are ways to quietly reduce the numbers of people eligible for inclusion in the labor force.

197 Suckers?  Or bargain hunters?

In either case, it's people who think the market 'oversold' yesterday. So, yes.

198 Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 05, 2011 09:37 AM (ignDe)

And if a man asks for help? Wouldn't it be against the law to exclude him?

199 Kittehs with guns and booze! This here is a full service blog.

200 Great. Princess Retardo is awake and regaling us with stories of her childhood. Do I stay and read them or go in the garage and beat my scrotum with a wire brush? That is a tough one.

201 Watch what happens with these flash mobs the night Obama loses the election.

202 Hah!  Thanks, Vic and Retread!   That Valu-Rite kitteh is clearly a Moron at heart.

203 "Do I stay and read them or go in the garage and beat my scrotum with a wire brush?" Brass or stainless?

204 206 Great.

Princess Retardo is awake and regaling us with stories of her childhood. Do I stay and read them or go in the garage and beat my scrotum with a wire brush?

That is a tough one.


*coffee, meet keyboard*

205 And if a man asks for help? Wouldn't it be against the law to exclude him?


I will pay a moron 20 bucks to test that theory.

206 @206 What gauge is the wire?

207 "Watch what happens with these flash mobs the night Obama loses the election." That's pretty much what snakehead James Carville said on TV before the 2008 election.

208 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:33 AM (M9Ie6)

We once had a spill of embalming fluid from a package being sent to a laboratory. It was an embalmed head. The HazMat guys actually earned their money that day.

209 I will pay a moron 20 bucks to test that theory.

Posted by: mpurinTexas supports Rick Perry, bitch at August 05, 2011 09:42 AM (ignDe)

Too early now. Goes into effect with Obamacare.

210 Too early now. Goes into effect with Obamacare.


The offer will still be in effect.

211 192 thanks for useful information dude


The spam has gone hipster.

212

Seriously, I think the local Fox Network morning coverage is about all I want to watch anymore. At least I get the local weather.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 05, 2011 09:40 AM (OWjjx)

I can't even bear to watch my local news.  I just turn on the Weather Channel.  On mute.  And only long enough to catch my Local on the 8's forecast. 

Then I usually put on USA and pray they're not showing L&O: SVU again.  L&O: CI is okay for background noise when I'm getting ready for work, but SVU makes me want to go stabby on something.

213 An Obamaville in Virginia Beach, of all places.

214 We once had a spill of embalming fluid from a package being sent to a laboratory. It was an embalmed head. The HazMat guys actually earned their money that day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

 

Didn't you say that they were teamsters? If so, they probably had plenty of experience with that sort of task.

215 The way I interpret that if a woman walks in to a Dr's office and asks for it the Dr has to provide this shit free of charge.

Just more cost-shifting.

216 That's pretty much what snakehead James Carville said on TV before the 2008 election.

Posted by: FRONT TOWARD LEFT at August 05, 2011 09:43 AM (cbyrC)

Apropos of nothing, James Carville's resemblance to Voldemort is uncanny.

217

Vic, good rant.  Completely agree with you.  Of course, this whole thing could have been avoided if folks had just thoroughly cooked the turkey.  I'm no food safety expert, but my understanding is if you cook it to the right temperature, you kill the salmonella and it's safe to eat. 

218 Gotta go into town for a few. bbl.

219 Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:34 AM (k1rwm)

Did he come into your room at night and...show you things?

220 Do I stay and read them

If you were one of the kool kids you'd use that filter so you could stay and not read them.

221 "The $8.5 billion settlement with BlackRock Inc., MetLife and 23 other large investors requires court approval. Walnut Place says the size of the settlement is "inadequate," the negotiations were not inclusive and the talks were too chummy."

222 That's pretty much what snakehead James Carville said on TV before the 2008 election.


Carville couldn't predict his way out of a paper bag.

But, the Obama camp will step up the rhetoric throughout the campaign, make the racial accusations and then, if riots break out when he loses, will take no responsibility for whipping up an angry mob.

223 I can't even bear to watch my local news.  I just turn on the Weather Channel.  On mute.  And only long enough to catch my Local on the 8's forecast.

I can no longer watch the Weather Channel.  "Wake up with Al"....really?  And news updates from MSNBC?

No thanks.

It's sad.  It started out as a family-owned business in Atlanta.  Now it's owned by Obamabots.

224 226 Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:34 AM (k1rwm)

Did he come into your room at night and...show you things?

Posted by: Typical perverted moron at August 05, 2011 09:49 AM (LH6ir)

that is a slur on a good man.  For God's sake have a little respect for the  dead.

225

Vic, good rant.  Completely agree with you.  Of course, this whole thing could have been avoided if folks had just thoroughly cooked the turkey.  I'm no food safety expert, but my understanding is if you cook it to the right temperature, you kill the salmonella and it's safe to eat.

But that puts the responsibility on the people who cooked and ate the turkey. ???  How can it be their fault????

 

226 So when the fk are they going to do something about all this flash mob attacks crap? This is ridiculous. Even before the joys of the internet and cell phones, there was a risk to going to any large amusement park if large crowds of black youths were present.

227 Posted by: Insomniac at August 05, 2011 09:48 AM (DrWcr)

100% correct. Salmonella is killed with proper cooking. Cross contamination can occur, but that just means that whoever is cooking it hasn't practiced proper hygienic technique.

There are some bacteria that produce a heat resistant toxin that is not destroyed by cooking, but salmonella isn't one of them. I think Staphylococcus is the main culprit for that kind of food-borne illness.

228 Do I stay and read them or go in the garage and beat my scrotum with a wire brush?

That is a tough one.
 
After a while, the beating should tenderize it quite a bit. In my youth, my mom used to beat meat with a coke bottle to tenderize it.
 
I hope this helps EOJ.

229

that is a slur on a good man.  For God's sake have a little respect for the  dead.

Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

The same you show people's dead parents and grandparents?  Grow up.

230 Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 09:48 AM (M9Ie6)

Vic, it's cheaper to drink at home!

231
  One more nice day in this small section of  our country. The idea of flash mobs HERE is pretty far-fetched. Thanks again for being able to live outside the urban areas. Libs haven't metastasized in my village---yet.

232 Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

So you like it with dead men? Wow, that is kinky!

233 "Scientists find new superbug strain of salmonella"heard on the radio yesterday that the government knew about this months ago and failed to act.

234 240 Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

So you like it with dead men? Wow, that is kinky!

Posted by: Typical perverted moron at August 05, 2011 09:55 AM (LH6ir)

That is a disgusting thing to say.  You are a real ill person.

235 Well the memo has been received, after Carney yesterday said "government doesn't create jobs", Labor Secretary Solis on CNBC a while ago said "listen, government doesn't create jobs". Here we go..

236 I would rather watch a Seattle v. Kansas City rerun that I already know the outcome to then another stupid scene where Sam Watterson  verbally beats  damning evidence out of a criminal defendant with the deadly truth rays he is emitting with his mind.

 Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at August 05, 2011 09:49 AM (OWjjx)

SO. TRUE.

The one and only reason I ever watch Around the Horn on ESPN is because at least it's not Law & Order.  Though it is fun sometimes to watch L&O and yell at the TV.  "I don't care that he's only 18 years old!  He bludgeoned a man to death with a rock!  Give him the g-ddamn needle and quit blathering!" 

It's very therapeutic.

237 Government creates "shovel-ready" jobs.  I heard that somewhere.

238 Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:56 AM (k1rwm)

I like it when they fight!

239 @ Mallamutt Law & Order: SVU is the superior show by virtue of Mariska Hargitay's ample sweater meat. Although initially it was hard to take her partner seriously, since just previously he was a prison homo on OZ.

240 236

that is a slur on a good man.  For God's sake have a little respect for the  dead.

Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 09:51 AM (k1rwm)

The same you show people's dead parents and grandparents?  Grow up.

Posted by: Jane D'oh, collecting pitchforks, tar and feathers at August 05, 2011 09:53 AM (UOM4

always have something inane to say don't you?  You keep saying I said this kind of stuff when it was not said.  You have serious reading comprehension problems.  And you had phonics so you really have no excuse. ok, putting you back on filter, one of my friends texted me to look at your post.

241 Fuck off, idiot.  And tell your imaginary friend the same.

242 The Angie Harmon L&Os were OK: "No deals.  Hang them all."

243

that is a slur on a good man.  For God's sake have a little respect for the  dead.

Posted by: curious

 

If you lapse into yet another episode of 'New York style' grief, then I shall endevour to arrange for you to be verbally downwind of yourself. I shall then record and sell for a profit your screaming.

244 "ok, putting you back on filter, one of my friends texted me to look at your post."

See, that right there is what we call undermining one's credibility.  Why?  Because it is stupid, that's why.

245 What she actually said was for the bakers to sell the higher priced bread to the peasants for the same price as the the lower class stuff.

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:44 AM (M9Ie6)

So she was into price controls, eh?

246 pixy has a "filter" too.  Perhaps it is time to use it.

247 Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Jesusland Liberation Army - Political Terror Brigade at August 05, 2011 09:59 AM (lbo6/)

You are too young to remember some of the other hotties on L&O, back when it was actually tolerable. Angie Harmon, Elisabeth Rohm, Jill Hennessy, and a few others.

248 ok, putting you back on filter, one of my friends texted me to look at your post.

You're fucking kidding me.

Have your 'friend' tell us how you can magically filter server-side html, please, I'd love to find out about it.

249 "Carville couldn't predict his way out of a paper bag." mpur, My bad. I said what I said incorrectly. Carville wasn't predicting an Obama loss. As I remember it, he said, "if," rather than, "when." And yes, I think he was trying both to incite riots if the outcome didn't go his way and scare people out of voting against Obama.

250 Have your 'friend' tell us how you can magically filter server-side html, please, I'd love to find out about it.

Posted by: nickless at August 05, 2011 10:06 AM (MMC8r)

A whole bunch of us are currently testing it.  He has also filed stuff with some office in DC to make sure no one steals it.  So when he has that stuff finalized then I'll ask him to write a post about it and email it to ace.

251

Okay, I know I'll get jumped on for this, but can folks please lay off curious?  Agree with her or disagree with her, but the unkind and uncouth comments directed at her constantly are uncalled for.  Everyone here (I'm pretty sure) is old enough to be out of junior high, and the schoolyard taunts are juvenile and cruel.  Shouldn't we be saving the harsh words for real trolls and the idiot Administration (BIRM)?

Just my two cents.

*turns off admonishing tone*

Okay, go ahead and beat me up now.  But I had to get that off my chest. 

*closes eyes and awaits the gauntlet*

252
A whole bunch of us are currently testing it.  He has also filed stuff with some office in DC to make sure no one steals it.  So when he has that stuff finalized then I'll ask him to write a post about it and email it to ace.

Nuclear-grade.

253 He's gonna patent the scrollbar?

254 250 The Angie Harmon L&Os were OK: "No deals.  Hang them all."

Posted by: A Balrog of Morgoth at August 05, 2011 10:00 AM (agD4m)

AH is, IMO, definitely the best of the sidekick ADAs.  Elizabeth Rohm, sweet God in heaven, was awful.  She had about as much onscreen charisma as a cardboard cutout of Henry Kissinger.  And also the silliest send-off in L&O history.

255

Good morning curious. :-) 

Just wanted you to read something nice.  Happy Friday! 

256 "Nuclear-grade." Actually, it could be done client side with something like the GreaseMonkey plugin. Find the class="posted" P elements, search the value for the handle or hash that you want to block, and if found, set the preceding DIV to "display: none;" But there's no way in hell anyone is going to get a patent on that.

257 In my youth, my mom used to beat meat with a coke bottle to tenderize it.
 
I hope this helps EOJ.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2011 09:53 AM (ENKCw)

Kinky, but how'd she get it to fit in the coke bottle?

258

Okay, I know I'll get jumped on for this, but can folks please lay off curious?  Agree with her or disagree with her, but the unkind and uncouth comments directed at her constantly are uncalled for. 

She really set people off with the 'only New Yorkers can have an opinion about Bin Laden and 9/11' bullshit.

259 Posted by: MWR, proud Tea Party Hobbit at August 05, 2011 10:09 AM (4df7R)

I think curious is a troll.

And who gives a rat's ass about their acting skills? I liked Rohm because she looked hot!

260 CBD, I'm 38, so I think I'm old enough, I just never watched it prior to Tits McGillicutty being on the show. Angie Harmon: APPROVE

261 In my youth, my mom used to beat meat with a coke bottle to tenderize it.
 
I hope this helps EOJ.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 05, 2011 09:53 AM (ENKCw)

Kinky, but how'd she get it to fit in the coke bottle?

Posted by: Insomniac

 

Well, there's quite a story there.......

262 I bet they dont have flash mobs in Texas...

263

She really set people off with the 'only New Yorkers can have an opinion about Bin Laden and 9/11' bullshit.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at August 05, 2011 10:16 AM (FkKjr)

I've gone back and read that.  Like always, the moronettes who want me to leave misinterpreted that also.  You guys misread stuff.  Say I said it.  Attack me and before you know it, all of you are parroting one another.  And the information is wrong.  You were very cruel to me that day.

but, on the plus side, I always include you guys in my rosaries. 

When I first came here I talked to mystry a lot.  I really miss him.  He was such a lovely person. 

264 C'mon down, friends and neighbors! Guaranteed lowest prices in all 57 states and Hawaii! Check out our spinners-equipped models for that sporty hipster look! Electric powered models on the way! Get on the waiting list now, 'cause these hot li'l babies are mighty fine and sharp!

265 MWR - it's a TROLL.. A Ron Paul troll at that. It gets no special favors because IT claims to be a female.

266 Kratos (Ghost of Sparta) can you get the Ghost of Mark Haines to do something about Jim Cramer? Or get rid of Imus on FBN so I can watch it before 9:15 am? Posted by: Retread at August 05, 2011 09:09 AM (BO5ap) Fox replied to my email saying Imus gets better rating than the bidness hotties that were on before him. Hard to believe. Hot gingers, both. Liz Claman and Jenna Lee. Course, Imus has Diane Macedo.

267

Okay, go ahead and beat me up now.  But I had to get that off my chest. 

*closes eyes and awaits the gauntlet*

Posted by: MWR, proud Tea Party Hobbit

 

I think not. You'd enjoy it too much.

268 but, on the plus side, I always include you guys in my rosaries. Well, that's one mystery solved. I went to the doctor last month and told him, "Doc, my penis really burns." He said, "That means someone's thinking about you."

269 always have something inane to say don't you?

The irony, it burns.

270 Beck playing a sound bite from Lurch Kerry demanding that the media not give equal time to the tea party hobbits.  Sidebar worthy.

271 Beck playing a sound bite from Lurch Kerry demanding that the media not give equal time to the tea party hobbits.

I just read this. I keep thinking nothing will surprise me from these assholes. They continue to prove me wrong.

272 "Beck playing a sound bite from Lurch Kerry demanding that the media not give equal time to the tea party hobbits." John Kerry is how I know I am not a racist. I know he is as big a fucking retard as Obama.

273

This whole administration has become the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results.  They think they can just BS their way through a freaking depression and nobody will hold them accountable for it.

I think what offends me most is they they think all of us are so stupid we will believe their bullshit.  NOW they tell us government doesn't create jobs?

274 That Ezra Klein piece in the sidebar is awesome.  Kid got schooled.

275

I've gone back and read that.  Like always, the moronettes who want me to leave misinterpreted that also.  You guys misread stuff.  Say I said it.  Attack me and before you know it, all of you are parroting one another.  And the information is wrong.  You were very cruel to me that day.

See, this is what's really annoying.  You attempt to rewrite history so you were some kind of innocence abused.  You staked out an indefensible position and people called you on it. 

276 What 'curious' calls a 'filter' the rest of us call a tin foil hat. ... and now you know the rest of the story.

277 I always include you guys in my rosaries.

I don't think that string of beads you have there are what you think they are...

278 OMG, a hockey player  misbehaving?  What next?  A cadre of baby mommas?

279 spurious, there's a picture here of "that string of beads"

280 RE: the flash mob violence, I blame the white house. They have empowered the black community, destroyed the economy, made sure there is no chance a young black man can find a job, and make class warfare comments every chance they get. Of course there will be lots of violence.

/also, can the victims sue Twitter?

281 Kinky, but how'd she get it to fit in the coke bottle?


It's getting it out that's a problem.

Hint: Drill a small hole in the bottom of the bottle first.

Or so I've heard.

282 RE: the flash mob violence, I blame the white house. They have empowered the black community, destroyed the economy, made sure there is no chance a young black man can find a job, and make class warfare comments every chance they get. Of course there will be lots of violence.

/also, can the victims sue Twitter?

Posted by: shibumi

 

I blame Frrodda Humper and her civility project. Her inflammatory rhetoric was vomited upon an innocent world, and then mobs rampaged at a state fair. Coincidence? Possibly. Pinning this on her? Loads of fun.

283 /also, can the victims sue Twitter?

This is really interesting and I've been giving that some thought. Dunno. What I do know  is that most people are absolutely clueless to these assaults as the media is not reporting them on a larger scale even though it's a nationwide trend at this point. I was talking to a liberal douche at work awhile back and we were talking about police layoffs in the . I said, 'yeah it's a real good idea until flash mobs come to our streets'.

His response - "oh yeah, the police are really going to need a presence to combat that problem of those wacky kids dancing in the street"

*facepalm*

284 http://tinyurl.com/3wt95w7

Welcome to the Ochlocracy. Posted by: progressoverpeace 

You'll give us morons a bad name with this vocabulary word of the day without Metal!

285

288RE: the flash mob violence, I blame the white house. They have empowered the black community, destroyed the economy, made sure there is no chance a young black man can find a job, and make class warfare comments every chance they get. Of course there will be lots of violence.

/also, can the victims sue Twitter?

----

They can file a suit, it will make big news, and then be quietly dismissed later. Twitter (a common carrier) is no more liable than suing the cell phone company for a crime planned over the phone. 

286 Well I'm back but really not. I decided to see how this PPV shit works with DISH and watch the new True Grit. Drink a few of course.

287 Shoot, bad start for Barry. The crowd had to be told to 'cheer'.

288 "This whole administration has become the definition of insanity - doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results." They are not expecting different results. They are getting the results they want. Individuals are losing power and wealth in favor of concentrating power and wealth in the hands of the people who control the state. Fifteen percent of the population are on food stamps. That 46 million now is up from 27 million in late 2007. Any guess on the general consensus of those extra 19 million with respect to out-of-control government spending?

289 Rick Santelli Schools Ezra Klein


A man whose image ought to be cast in deathless bronze.

290

Posted by: Vic at August 05, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

Exactly. Check out Walter Williams' column from this week.

291

I've gone back and read that.  Like always, the moronettes who want me to leave misinterpreted that also.  You guys misread stuff.  Say I said it.  Attack me and before you know it, all of you are parroting one another.  And the information is wrong.  You were very cruel to me that day.

but, on the plus side, I always include you guys in my rosaries. 

When I first came here I talked to mystry a lot.  I really miss him.  He was such a lovely person. 

Posted by: curious at August 05, 2011 10:19 AM (k1rwm)

You are a lying little shit there was no way to misinterpret the idiotic stuff you said then.  You are the one that called people selfish bitches that day.  You are the one that said only New Yorkers get to decide.  You are the one that claimed the rest of the country had forgotten about 9/11 and only New Yorkers remembered because it was only New York that was affected.

292 Thank you for your sharing! I like i very much

293 Fifty Bucks say Oobaka's EPA, or some stink'n Green group shuts down the Nebraska rare-earth find before the end of the year.

294 I donÂ’t usually add my comments, but I will in this case. Nice work. I look forward to reading more.