1

Fox (TV) is reporting a major attack against the U.S. Embassy in Kabul by the Taliban. They are reporting massive casualties but very few details. This is the danger of placing Americans in harmÂ’s way with very little military. That is the Democrats normal policy when they do commit military. It is always too little too late and usually in the wrong place.

2

Fox's take on the CNN debate

Evidently they jabbed at each other but no wholesale attacks. I donÂ’t know, I missed it due to visiting in-laws. I would ask what the other Morons though that actually saw it but that is useless. The Perry supporters will say he was great, the Romneybots will say he sucked and Romney was king, the Paulbots will do their thing and the Palin holdouts will say the debate was shit because she wasnÂ’t there.

CNN's take has it being more combative - not surprising

F&F this morning of course pushed mainly Romney. They quoted the LA Times who said Romney “won” then played the “jobs” debate between Romney and Perry. I saw no “win” there for Romney. I thought Perry actually made it to the top simply stating the facts.  Anytime you hear anything from the LAT on politics you can pretty much bet that it is a lying slanted POS.

They also played BachmannÂ’s attack on the HPV thing which Perry owned up to as a mistake. We all knew that was coming and I covered it in the Perry eval. However, she went across the line and essentially accused him of being bought for $5K from Merk. PerryÂ’s comeback was good but this kind of shit is totally uncalled for among Republican candidates.   Bachmann is now off my short list. Desperation is not an excuse for shitting on fellow Republicans and giving the Dems ammunition, even if it is BS duds.

F&F also played Newt beating the living dog shit out of Obama with side swipes at the press. Newt is providing a good function here as he did in the last “debate”.

The Weekly Neocon sides with the LAT - no surprise there

3

House will pass a bill to halt the union thugs at the NLRB

It will not make it past the Senate of course, and even if it did the head commie ‘n chief would veto it.  Based on that, this has to be a purely symbolic guesture by crying Boner to embarrass the Obominites. That will be partially successful but the press will mute the message, just like they have never reported that all thee union thugs were appointed without Senate approval by under the table Obama moves. The only way the House will halt the NRLB is to defund them via a “take it or leave it” budget bill. That was the 2010 campaign strategy but crying Boner has shown that he is scared to use that strategy.

4

Details of the phony jobs bill emerge

Mr. Obama proposed limiting itemized deductions for families with taxable income of $250,000 or more a year, ending tax breaks for oil companies and corporate jet owners, and cutting out a tax break for investment-fund managers. The White House says the tax changes would take effect in 2013 and estimates they would raise $467 billion in additional revenue over 10 years.

Keep in mind that when a commie talks about ending “tax breaks” 99% of the time they are talking about eliminating business expresses that are routinely subtracted from gross revenues in order to determine profit.

That is not exactly the case with the “jet” shit but what he wants to do is almost negligible in actual revenue enhancement. What this bill is is just more the same Obama shit, tax and spend socialism rolled out in an election campaign daring the Republicans to kill it so he can parrot the commie message and the PR rags will dutifully report it.

5

Thomas Sowell's take - as usual clear, concise, and on the money

Crying Boner and Misty McConnell better find a better way to combat the PR rags because they sure as shit havenÂ’t been good at it so far.  And crying Boner has better not do another one of his famous “compromises” for another bag of magic beans and unspecified cuts down the road.

6

FCC pushing net neutrality through despite no support in congress and a previous court order telling them they did not have the authority

Amazing how this administration simply thumbs its nose at the courts when they lose. Jackson and his infamous dealings over the violation of the treaty with the Cherokees doesnÂ’t hold a candle to this crew of lawless assholes. A Republican would have long ago been impeached.

7

I don't know how we ever thought Cantor was a real conservative.

He is basically telling the rest of the House to give up the only weapon they have because the Democrat PR rags will demonize them.

8

California "Republican" will support tax hikes

House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) said Monday, if forced to choose, he would support tax increases before further cuts to the Pentagon budget.

This is why I thought this frakin super committee was a POS.

9 If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it?


I'm a moron; I would cut it.

10

NRC staff calls for speedy evaluation of earthquake, flood risks at nuke plants

Let me rephrase that headline for you.

NRC staff, at the push from Markey goon chairman, calls for even more useless regulations requiring even more expensive modifications using  earthquake and flood risks at nuke plants in Japan which have very little or no bearing at 99% of the plants in the U.S.

This is a raw political move designed to increase operating costs to shutdown the plants on the margins of operating costs. 

For those of you who are not in the know look at this way. Suppose you bought a new car in 2010. Somebody in Germany had a car of somewhat similar design and had a wreck on the autobahn while doing 150 mph in the rain.  Along comes the NTSB and orders that you have your car modified by ripping out all of the breaking system and replacing it with a new system that may make minor improvements in brakingÂ…..at a cost of $10,000.

11

Don't know if this has been covered yet but Jindall has endorsed Perry

I donÂ’t know if this endorsement is all that much or not but there it is. I am anxious to see who Nikki Haley endorses because THAT will mean something in SC, particularly if DeMint goes the same way.

12

Another huge foreign policy win for the US from the Obama crowd

13

Democrat PR rag carries water for Romney in SC

They use T-Paw sloganing for “electability” as a crutch. I guess they have to do that for Romney in SC because he has absolutely NOTHING else to offer SC voters. All the other candidates have to do to assure Romney comes in dead last in SC is get out his MA record on healthcare, gun control, and AGW. He will be a dead duck.

14

Yet another study that shows water is wet

This one shows people from congress leaving to enter lobbying profession. In olden times this was known a corruption. Ever wonder how all these bills get written to help cronies? Well here it is.  Of course from this Dem PR rag they push it is Republicans and barely mention Democrats.

15

Another State moves its primary up

In 2008 they went into this shit and SC moved its primary up. The RNC punished both by removing half of its delegates. What will they do this time?

16

I just posted my take on last night's debate, which I dutifully watched, foregoing not one, but two football games.

Yeah, I'm a political junkie.

And Vic, it's good to have you back where you belong.

17 And that's it this morning folks.

18 If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it?

What kind of cheese?

19 I just posted my take on last night's debate, which I dutifully watched, foregoing not one, but two football games.

Where did you post it? BTW, thanks

20 #4 Vic

Anyone read about HR 2587 Protect Jobs Act sponsored by Nat.Fed.Ind.Businesses and the Nat.Assoc.of Manufacturers to prevent federal interference?

21 <i>

If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it? </i>

Depends on the kind of cheese.   One of those fancy shmancy stinky french cheeses?  No way.  Good all American cheese:  Hell Yeah!

22 Anyone read about HR 2587 Protect Jobs Act sponsored by Nat.Fed.Ind.Businesses and the Nat.Assoc.of Manufacturers to prevent federal interference?

Haven't seen anything on it. How can a private organization sponsor a bill in congress?

23 If you were a hotdog, would you eat yourself?

24 If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it?

Are there nachos?

25

OK here it is

It was sponsored by Tim Scott and this may be the bill that Fox was alluding to above.

26 We have over 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, Vic.. sure, not all in Kabul.. but..

27 Click on my handle, Vic. It goes straight to the best kept secret on teh Interwebs.

28 I caught the last part of the debate live, then the rest in rerun.  The big loser last night was Obama on the economy (on turning it around and also on the Fed).  He got his ass kicked with sound and unique reasoning by each of the candidates and I don't even think the O was mentioned while they did it, but it was the elephant in the room of how clueless the O really is. 

29

ZH's take on the phony jobs bill:

overall AJA plan will cost $250,000 per job created (excluding the interest expense) and $312,500 per union job, er job created (including interest). And that's how much it costs for Obama to purchase one vote... created or saved. Keynesian efficiency strikes like a Swiss watch yet again.

30 Hi,  Vic.  Thanks for the news on the Kabul embassy.  I don't have the TV on yet and didn't know.

Regarding debates: tea party audience not helpful (probably a lot of Paulbots there as well); Guardasil argument was both irrelevant to big issues and managed to derail efforts to talk about Obama's failings, plus made Bachmann and Santorum look a little fanatical; Ron Paul should be banned from further debates for his comments on terrorism; Perry probably guilty of some crony capitalism,  but it pales in comparison to Obama and the DNC; little discussion of foreign policy,  as CNN hoped; finally - glad not many people watched!

31 We have over 100,000 troops in Afghanistan, Vic.. sure, not all in Kabul.. but..

The fact of the matter is the military wanted a surge of over 3 times the amount Obama finally sent late. They are scattered too far and too thin to accomplish the objective and Obama intendeds to reduce them even further making this kind of shit even more likely.

He is doing this solely for political reasons. The worthless sucker of cock is using the lives of American troops for political expediency and I hold him in nothing but utter contempt. 

Now he wants to reduce troops in Irag down to 3k.  Tell me that isn't a damn invitation for attack. And finally I have been through this SHIT before and I said never again. FUCK.HIM

When he decided there was no objective he should have pulled them ALL then, not sent a pittance of what was needed.

32

Ron Paul! did a wonderful job of proving his unfitness for the presidency last night. He'd have us abandon Israel and pull up our tent stakes and go home. While that's nice in theory, that's not something we can do today.

He's the GOP's crazy uncle.

33 Click on my handle, Vic. It goes straight to the best kept secret on teh Interwebs.

OK I was going to link it if posted here but I am not sure how ace feels about this. You have linked it anyway now.

34 Perry was much better this time then last.  Based on the order that I watched it, I thought Perry hadn't done well, but the first 3/4s of the night, he was okay to good, but his last two topics are where he stumbled: the vaccine and illegal immigration/border security.

35

You have linked it anyway now.

It's like, always linked, dude, in a cosmic way. Far out, man.

OK, I'm off. And I'm going to work, too. Have fun, y'all.

36 Another four years of Obama because of a vaccine, huh? 

Welp.

37 Be good and have fun

38 When he decided there was no objective he should have pulled them ALL then, not sent a pittance of what was needed.
Posted by: Vic
............
We lost an objective after a few months in Afghanistan.

In last night's debate a woman who had been born in Afghanistan asked a questionlike "What will you do as president to protect the women and children of Afghanistan from radicals?"

Most of the candidates say we should bring the troops home.  And I agree.  Even triple the troops would not be enough.  It's not even a country.. it's a bunch of tribal regions artificially bound together by an artificial border. 

The day we got rid of the last Al Quaeda training camp is the day we should have pulled out.

39 @BackwardsBoy:  'Internet Explorer blocked this website from displaying content with security certificate errors'...just FYI...I think it's your 'Donate using GPal' buttons

40 Another four years of Obama because of a vaccine, huh?

The vaccine thingy is a hit, but he has owned up to it. Pushing it will not help Bachmann so she aught to shut up on it.

In any case that positively pales on the shit Obama has done. The only people it will influence are the ones who are already in the Obama camp anyway, and even there if it were a Dem who did it they would fully support it.

41

I thought Newt continued his surprise with his return to sanity.  I really could see him as a VP for Perry because Perry would keep his AGW BS in check.

Romney still looked good as a polished candidate.  His positions though are still the same.

Cain I though did better.  At least for me, he lately just hadn't looked presidential.

Bachmann still the same in general, although I thought she did better this time.  Most of her points were good and but she just doesn't have anything to point at for a record.

Ron Paul was more cogent last night but he still eventually got into his spaceship and took off for worlds unknown.

Santorum has decent answers; he just isn't well known.

Then there was this guy there named John, or Jon, or something.

42 The day we got rid of the last Al Quaeda training camp is the day we should have pulled out.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2011 07:33 AM (UTq/I)

The problem is the day we pull out another Al Qaeda training camp is going right in.  And one thing we know is that lobbing cruise missiles at Al Qaeda training camps doesn't work.

43 When Fox played the exchanges between Romney and Perry on SS and jobs  thought Perry ate his lunch.

44 And one thing we know is that lobbing cruise missiles at Al Qaeda training camps doesn't work.

It would if we didn't tell the ISI first.

45 dogfish - I have to agree about Newt.  He was the elder statesman last night.

46

The problem is the day we pull out another Al Qaeda training camp is going right in. And one thing we know is that lobbing cruise missiles at Al Qaeda training camps doesn't work.

The entire western world should just dump all it's nuclear waste there and make it un-inhabitable...problem solved.

47 Seniors aren't all that scared of Social Security cuts.

But...Romney says all that talk of ponzi schemes is scaring granma!

48 Michael Totten - Egypt's Botched Revolution

49

The problem is the day we pull out another Al Qaeda training camp is going right in.  And one thing we know is that lobbing cruise missiles at Al Qaeda training camps doesn't work.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
.......
That's silly.. training camps sprung up in Yemen and Somalia and Waziristan  and Pakistan and god knows where else.  We cannot police the entire planet.

50 Gotta go for a bit.  See y'all later.

51 41

I thought Newt continued his surprise with his return to sanity.  I really could see him as a VP for Perry because Perry would keep his AGW BS in check.

Its a trap!!

52 If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it?

I would definitely have to taste it.

53 We cannot police the entire planet. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2011 07:40 AM (UTq/I) But what about the women and children of (insert country here)? Unsustainable "police/kinetic" actions are another example of megalomania on the part of the ruling class. It is obvious that we can't police the world. Hell, we can't even police Detroit! But the establishment is firmly committed to trying (overseas, ot so much in Detroit), in spite of all the evidence that it doesn't work. As a rational citizen, I believe that only answer is a declaration of war from congress, followed by total war ending with unconditional surrender by the enemy. The answer is most assuredly not leaving a few (3000) troops hanging at the sharp end of the conflict with no intent of real support. If congress doesn't care enough about a conflict to call it a real war, then save money and lives and stay the eff out. Right now, the weak horse is looking positively anemic.

54 That's silly.. training camps sprung up in Yemen and Somalia and Waziristan  and Pakistan and god knows where else.  We cannot police the entire planet.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2011 07:40 AM (UTq/I)

Your argument to the fact that Al Qaeda will set up camp in Afghanistan again is, "meh?"

I'm pretty sure we have to destroy Al Qaeda training camps wherever we find them.  In Afghanistan prior attempts to destroy them with cruise missiles failed.

55 It's a simple question - just say yes and we'll move on.

56 Unsustainable "police/kinetic" actions are another example of megalomania on the part of the ruling class. It is obvious that we can't police the world.

Maybe not, but we need to fight Al Qaeda wherever they are, and doing the lazy, half-assed solution of lobbing rockets at them does not work.

57 "We all know the moon is not made of green cheese, but what if it was made of spare ribs? Would you eat it then?"

- Harry Carey (Space, The Infinite Frontier)

58 Eat moon cheese? EWWWWWWWH! No! Some guy walked in it!

59 If anyone's to blame for 9/11 it's the Clinton administration and Clinton personally.
Bin Laden was was bolstered and received widespread support after we did not remove our troops from Saudi Arabia.
It's in "The Road to 9/11"

60 Maybe not, but we need to fight Al Qaeda wherever they are, and doing the lazy, half-assed solution of lobbing rockets at them does not work. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 13, 2011 08:03 AM (FkKjr) Think we really agree in principle, I just want our "leaders" to commit to a public strategy and get on with it. I have no problem with carpet bombing any and all Al Quada training camps (suspected or known). If the leaders want to do nothing but "smart diplomacy", then I want to know that as a matter of public record so I can have yet another clear reason to vote the bastards out next time up.

61 Bin Laden was was bolstered and received widespread support after we did not remove our troops from Saudi Arabia.
It's in "The Road to 9/11"

Posted by: De' Debil Hisself at September 13, 2011 08:08 AM (j5CHE)

Saudi Arabia asked us to be in their damn country to keep an eye on Saddam.  Now cranks who threaten violence need to be taken seriously?There's a wonderful precedent.

62 Just drove thru Wisconsin so my cheese plate is full.  Mmm smoked Provolone, Sharp Cheddar in 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,12,25 years aged, full cream Swiss, buttermilk Blue - where's my crackers.

63 Maybe not, but we need to fight Al Qaeda wherever they are, and doing the lazy, half-assed solution of lobbing rockets at them does not work.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk
............
So, we should occupy each and every country Al Qaeda uses for training camps?  Good idea! Not.

We've been there for ten years.. are you trying to tell me you consider that a working strategy?

64 Saudi Arabia asked us to be in their damn country to keep an eye on Saddam. Now cranks who threaten violence need to be taken seriously?There's a wonderful precedent. Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 13, 2011 08:12 AM (FkKjr) It's smart diplomacy, but you peasants wouldn't understand something as sophisticated as that! We were in Saudi Arabia until we no longer served their purposes!

65 We've been there for ten years.. are you trying to tell me you consider that a working strategy?

We've been killing them there for ten years.  They haven't been killing us here at all.  W explained that simply enough that morons ought to be able to understand it but apparently not.

66 President Obama has not solved one problem since he took office.  Not one.  Things have only gotten worse.  There is no debate about that.

67 dogfish - I have to agree about Newt.  He was the elder statesman last night.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2011 07:38 AM (UTq/I)

It's a damn shame Newt is Newt because he's kicked ass at both debates.  Damn shame.....

68 We forgot the crackers Gromit! http://tinyurl.com/3nd32ke

69 So, we should occupy each and every country Al Qaeda uses for training camps?  Good idea! Not.

If you topple one regime and make it hurt, countries may start thinking twice about supporting them lest they get targeted, or they will cooperate with us to get rid of them.  If you engage in the air-campaign-but-don't -disturb-the-natives policy, every failed state is going to start throwing money at them just to fuck with us.


We've been there for ten years.. are you trying to tell me you consider that a working strategy?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 13, 2011 08:23 AM (UTq/I)

Are you trying to tell me you consider the strategy of the 90's a working strategy?

I pointed out the factually correct statement that leaving would lead to Al Qaeda returning, which lead to you dismissing that as a 'silly' concern.

We need a strategy change which stresses securing the country from attacks against us, not to say, 'gee, this is hard' and then leave the country in the same shitty, dangerous state.

70

Hi All

Vic are you ok?

I could not believe that Perry  is supporting illegals last night with in state tuition breaks. Perry also endorsed giving illegals driver licenses? Republicans need to clean up their act or Obama is going to  be re elected.

Romney attacked Perry saying that Texas does not represent the rest of the USA. Romney also attacked Perry on "Job Creation".

71 Well you do remember who is dictating policy at the FCC, Mark Lloyd, the admirer of Chavez's 'wonderful Democratic revolution'

72 "If the moon were made of cheese, would you eat it?" If? There ain't no IF! Can I get a side order of bacon? And in case there are any moon-cheese deniers out there, I will quote from Wallace and Gromit: "Everybody knows the moon is made of cheese..."  ... and that's good enough for me! ("Gromit, that's it! Cheese! We'll go somewhere where there's cheese!")

73 If my shorts were made of cheeze would you eat them?

74

From the comments on the link in the sidebar about Michelle Bachmann, a special kind of crazy--this poster, naturally, identifies as a Democrat:

The reason that Rick Perry is so in favor of HPV is because most Texas republican girls can't remember being deflowered. Indeed, all they remember is what they're told to remember. You see, the Young Republican clubs in Dallas and Houston started it, of course when George W. Bush "Junior" was at the helm. The permission slip they get signed by parents to join YR informs parents of the strong likelihood of drugs and sexual activity. The unusually frank form is usually considered a prank or as a barrier to entry by the parents, designed to limit membership to the staunchest supporters of the republican cause. What it really is, is license making parents complicit.

Young Republican girls are drugged with a clear vaporous liquid with the consistency of vodka. They sniff the vapors or they are forced to sniff the vapors from a snifter, then the party begins. The girls loose all ability to resist demands made upon them, they retain no will at all being drugged. While influenced by the drug, they remember absolutely nothing of their rapes. When they come out of their ordeal, they are influenced to give their parents the story that they had a wonderful time and want to return. Indeed, without knowledge of their own sexual abuse by leaders of Young Republicans, 'they live for it'.

The same drug was used to 'convince' Jared Loughner to shoot Democratic representative Gabby Giffords. It is the same drug that George H.W. Bush used to 'convince' all of America's spate of assassins in nearly every political death in America of the last fifty years. Frame jobs are a specialty of the group entrusted with death squad work in the USA. Wilbur Mills did not voluntarily wake up in a fountain with his stripper mistress, nor did Teddy Kennedy drown Mary Jo Kopeckne at Chappaquiddick. Vince Foster was not a closet homosexual, he was murdered and framed by the republican Death Squad.

Harriet Miers, before becoming presidential counsel to George W. Bush and one of his supreme court nominees, was the madam of Bush's house of ill repute. She would collect up the girls (and boys) for the meetings and special parties for republican party officials, who universally participated. John Tower never missed a party and obtained more sexual favors than anyone. Tower, unfamiliar with the drugs usually used to prepare the young women, managed to embarrass himself repeatedly when he found YR victims working in Washington, DC and accosted them sexually. That is why he was not confirmed as Secretary of Defense after his nomination by George H.W. Bush. Miss Miers was denied confirmation to the US Supreme Court because of her licentious behavior, too--and most of the US Senators of the republican party had been to Bush parties and knew of her involvement therein. Conde Rice was a 'lead girl' of the ring in the early seventies, but her culpability was limited due to her being drugged and raped repeatedly, perhaps that is why she was confirmed while Tower & Miers were not?

Rick Perry must know of this debauchery. It probably continues to the present day, and Perry would know of the many 'unfortunate' infections of HPV in girls who genuinely consider themselves innocent. Doubtless HPV inoculation is now a condition of acceptance into the Texas Young Republicans club, so making that easier would become a Texas priority.

75 Would you put out the fire Chief?

76

Michelle 'For the First Time in My Adult Lifetime, I Am Really Proud of My Country' Obama Disrespects Flag Ceremony at Ground Zero

Michelle Obama's reaction to the flag ceremony at ground zero on the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks:

"All this to fold that flag".

http://tinyurl.com/68al6ae

77

Note to ACE:

That "tiny url" shit is irritating as fuck.

78 From the comments on the link in the sidebar about Michelle Bachmann, a special kind of crazy--this poster, naturally, identifies as a Democrat:

That's some good crazy; layered, rich and chewy.

79

Legal Sea Foods is pissing off environmentalists with it's new ad campaign: http://tinyurl.com/5ugoznn

USA today somehow ties this in with Perry and the Tea party.

80 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

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