September 15, 2011

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— Gabriel Malor

We are far from daylight.

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 03:08 AM | Comments (170)
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1 Then maybe we should go outside.

Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2011 03:11 AM (YL3wr)

2 Is that a comment on Obama's skin color?

Posted by: AAAAAATAAACK WAAAATCH at September 15, 2011 03:12 AM (QBQcg)

3 Oh, and welcome to Thursday. We've still got the SCOAMF but the end's in sight, and so is the weekend, so beer can't be far behind.

Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2011 03:13 AM (YL3wr)

4 RomneyCare caused 18,000 jobs to be lost in Massachusetts.

Of course, this isn't Mitt's fault.  Anything bad that happens from RomneyCare is the fault of the state legislature.  Or Deval Patrick did it after poor Mitt left the state.  But it's still his banner accomplishment.  Which he would never force on the other states.  That's just crazy talk.  He's clearly the smartest candidate.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2011 03:14 AM (FkKjr)

5 Morning all. New Hampshire is going one step better than the castle doctrine:
 
The bill, now law, allows citizens to use deadly force to defend themselves in public places. Previously, that right was restricted to one's home.
 
Done with an override of the Governor's veto, too. Wtg NH!

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:14 AM (ENKCw)

6 Confusion, will by my epitaph.

Posted by: toby928© at September 15, 2011 03:15 AM (GTbGH)

7

brb.....

renovating schools.

Posted by: Pres. Construction-Grade Stupidity at September 15, 2011 03:16 AM (Y227l)

8 Poll thread watch. Heard on radio of poll now showing Perry and Romney lose to O by several points. I almost spewed my coffee with laughter. Nobody is going to lose to the O in an election if held today.

Posted by: 52%er at September 15, 2011 03:19 AM (N2yhW)

9 Morning all, sitting here with my coffee. Looks like New Hampshire is going Republican. Once they shoot all the miscreants, there will not be anyone left to vote for the Democrats.

Posted by: Harry at September 15, 2011 03:20 AM (Jchcf)

10

Maybe, just maybe, we are seeing the end of the beginning of the downfall of the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:21 AM (i3+c5)

11

So it turns out, the Obama Administration was warned that long-term insurance was un-sustainable, and they spewed that lie anyway...

Why do they keep ignoring warnings? 

Hey, this Gunrunner thing might really blow up in our faces, sir.
O:  Don't worry about it, I'm Obama.

You know, they really WON'T be able to keep their insurance, Mr. President.
O:  Whatever, I'll tell them they will.  That'll change everything.

Um, Mr. President, Solyndra really isn't the hill you want to die on.
O:  Who said anything about dying?  I'm the lightworker, here.  Let me work some light.

It's incredible... Such hubris.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 15, 2011 03:23 AM (wnbjH)

12 Can't a man just eat his waffle?

Posted by: joffen at September 15, 2011 03:23 AM (EPcuy)

13 Also, Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

For some reason, typing that once a day (at least) really makes me feel better.

And it's cheaper than therapy.  (Until I hit the tip jar, of course.  Which I HAVE to do today.)

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 15, 2011 03:24 AM (wnbjH)

14 I don't care if she's a crazy liberal.  I want to make babies with Neko Case.

Posted by: Alex at September 15, 2011 03:25 AM (J2ejK)

15 My 80y/o mother watches way too much tv, including O'reilly level nonsense, and she loves her some Romney. It's possible she's beyond reason at this point, and while I don't expect anyone else to see my mother as a bellweather on this, I am thinking that the powers-that-be have already decided who the Republican candidate will be.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2011 03:25 AM (Gc/Qi)

16 Mittens is just a private sector businessman experienced in creating jobs.  What should he know about health care and mandates and stuff?

When I heard on Faux that "job-creating" Mitt was worth maybe 200 mil, while that "evil executioner" Perry was only worth about 3 mil, I felt I had found a really good data point.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:25 AM (i3+c5)

17 Sen. Paul mocks the preznit with a speech (RealClearPolitics link):
 
Sen. Paul: "I’ve got another message for the president. We’ve gotta bill to help solidify thousands of jobs in South Carolina. Pass this now. If you want to be in favor of jobs – Pass this bill now.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:28 AM (ENKCw)

18 What I know is that because of Romney Care and other Nanny State crap that was jammed down the Massachusetts  Public Throat, my brother's small business is now just him because the red tape and overhead associated with owning a multi-employee business is too expensive and complicated. A 65 year old man turning wrenches every day so he can eat. Fuck the rich fuck Romney. Who cares If he could win. YOU DON'T WANT PEOPLE LIKE HIM ANYWHERE NEAR POWER!

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at September 15, 2011 03:28 AM (j5CHE)

19 12

Maybe, just maybe, we are seeing the end of the beginning of the downfall of the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 07:21 AM (i3+c5)



Ignorance is no excuse, but it is terribly useful.

Posted by: Ioseph Stalin at September 15, 2011 03:29 AM (McHnx)

20

Desperation. Denial. Egotism. Narcissism. Needyism.

All these are the qualities we look for in a President.

All of them have been displayed by this administration this week.

Yay?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, Tea Party SOB at September 15, 2011 03:33 AM (d0Tfm)

21

It's incredible... Such hubris.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 15, 2011 07:23 AM (wnbjH)

Chicago Rules (Washington DC updates):

1. If the Precedent does it, it is not illegal. 

2. If DoJ does enough of it, it is impossible to prosecute.

3. If you criticize the Precedent, you are RAACIST!

4. There is no linkage between campaign contributions and government actions.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:33 AM (i3+c5)

22

Maybe, just maybe, we are seeing the end of the beginning of the downfall of the SCOAMF.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 07:21 AM

Ya think?

Sorry to say, I'm thinking too many people are still wearing their liberal blinders and will rush to support/make excuses for Osama Obama at every opportunity.

Note how the stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure's new tattletale website was initially scorned even by the WaPoo. They've walked it back, and now say "conservatives" are ridiculing the ridiculous AttackWatch. The NY Slimes is burying any news that reflects badly on the Traitor-in-Chief.

Logically, Obama should be calling the networks to reserve airtime for his resignation speech. But he isn't. The arrogant prick is out shilling for his new economy-busting "plan" and people still "love" him.

I'm not saying it's hopeless, but if we want to start disinfecting D.C. next year, we have to ratchet up the pressure now, and increase it. When Obama and the members of his regime slink out of town in January, '13, we can throw the biggest party this country has ever known.

And we should. But not before.

Posted by: MrScribbler at September 15, 2011 03:34 AM (YjjrR)

23 Why is it that Obama's jobs plan includes jobs nobody ever asked for? Shouldn't the nature of new jobs be left up to actual private sector employers? And they're all unionized industries. Maybe we need another 35,000 engineers instead of 35,000 teachers. Why does he get to pick what "we" need? Can't we figure that out for ourselves? I know; it's all about union votes.

Posted by: banshee at September 15, 2011 03:34 AM (R0PNN)

24 Apparently, all that school stimulatin' just didn't trickle down to the students themselves:
 
SAT reading scores for the high school class of 2011 were the lowest on record, and combined reading and math scores fell to their lowest point since 1995.
 
Winning The Future, biatches! Nice 5 year downtrend seen. I know, let's throw more money at the schools. Actually, you know that we try and use this to do exactly that. Fer the chillins.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:35 AM (ENKCw)

25 Sen. Paul: "I’ve got another message for the president. We’ve gotta bill to help solidify thousands of jobs in South Carolina. Pass this now. If you want to be in favor of jobs – Pass this bill now.

God bless Aqua Buddha.  Ron Paul did do something right.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2011 03:35 AM (FkKjr)

26

Can Obama draw a crowd outside of a college campus? 

Also while in N.C. yesterday, President Lucky Charm visited another business  to tout its success. 

Padlocks and pink slips to follow.

Posted by: Spiker at September 15, 2011 03:36 AM (Y227l)

27 "I love you back. If you love me, you got to help me pass this bill."
I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.

Posted by: Jareth Obama at September 15, 2011 03:37 AM (lpWVn)

28

President Lucky Charm

 

DIED laughing.  That's my new favorite.  I know there a lot of good ones out there, but that's just spectacular.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at September 15, 2011 03:38 AM (wnbjH)

29 12 Maybe, just maybe , we are seeing the end of the beginning of the downfall of the SCOAMF . Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 07: 21 AM ( i3 + c5 ) I have a question about a possible dem challenger to Obama. When would they have to declare? I'm of the understanding that republican candidates have to declare by a certain time so as to get on the ballots. How would it work for the other side?

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 15, 2011 03:38 AM (BnHYN)

30 You'll know the Congressional donks took the wheel of the Bus from Barry is they pass one of Boehner's job/recovery bills.

Reid's little deer in the headlights act on C-span is an indicator he is having to hold his caucus off;

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 03:39 AM (AEIYh)

31 We've had the Gore Effect -- plummeting temperatures when the Global Glob comes to town -- now we've got the Obama Effect -- the preznit comes to your factory and it closes down later that year. Reverse Midas touch!

Posted by: joncelli at September 15, 2011 03:39 AM (YL3wr)

32 29 Actually, you know that they will try and use this to do exactly that.
 
FIFM -- man was that garbled.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:40 AM (ENKCw)

33   #31

Padlocks and pink slips and bears. Oh no!

Posted by: Dorothy and the Strawman at September 15, 2011 03:40 AM (lpWVn)

34 10 52%er,

Maybe, RCP has Mitten up on Jugears by 3 points and Perry in a statistical deadheat but the wounded duck factor may get sympathy polling for Bambi.

I don't think it'll really get him sympathy votes though.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 03:41 AM (AEIYh)

35 God bless Aqua Buddha.  Ron Paul did do something right.

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2011 07:35 AM (FkKjr)

The stuff he's right on(which is actually a lot when it comes to our civil rights and responsibilities) He's so right on. I would hope the new Republican President puts him on at Treasury Secretary of Fed Reserve Chief.


Posted by: Beto Ochoa at September 15, 2011 03:41 AM (j5CHE)

36 Carville to Obama: PANIC!

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2011 03:42 AM (EPcuy)

37 I'm of the understanding that republican candidates have to declare by a certain time so as to get on the ballots. How would it work for the other side?

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 15, 2011 07:38 AM (BnHYN)
Dems declare whenever they want.  Election rules do not apply to them.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:44 AM (i3+c5)

38 #42

Rinos and Dinos and Bears, oh no!

Posted by: James Carville at September 15, 2011 03:45 AM (lpWVn)

39 I have a question about a possible dem challenger to Obama. When would they have to declare?
 
PAgirl, one of the ways the Dems could do this is at their national convention. It's probably too late for a state by state primary challenge.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:46 AM (ENKCw)

40 43 Hrothgar,

Now now H, the donks being on the ticket is such a moral imperative that judges just can't help themselves in finding "hidden meaning" in election law is all.....

it is not that the rules don't apply to them it is that every set of rules on the matter have invisible ink dictates that the rules are flexible ONLY for them....

the judges are all honest, non-partisan straight shooters I am certain.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 03:46 AM (AEIYh)

41 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 15, 2011 07:41 AM (Lt/Za)
Don't forget the special deal for the private investors that puts them ahead of the taxpayers in bankruptcy proceedings for Solyndra.  DoE is looking out for you O's cronies.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:47 AM (i3+c5)

42 Election rules do not apply to them. (FIFY)

/neither do laws. We provide the practical illustration of "anarchy". Impose "order" that does not apply.

Posted by: James Carville at September 15, 2011 03:48 AM (lpWVn)

43 Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 07:46 AM (AEIYh)
Sven, I certainly hope you didn't think I meant to impugn the integrity of Clinton and Obama appointed Harvard and Yale lawyers that have risen to esteemed positions on the bench.  It is just that really understanding how living language needs to be re-understood in the context of Democratic strategy requires a proper judicial interpretation.

Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 03:50 AM (i3+c5)

44

The bill, now law, allows citizens to use deadly force to defend themselves in public places. Previously, that right was restricted to one's home.

Done with an override of the Governor's veto, too. Wtg NH!

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 07:14 AM (ENKCw)

 

That's glorious - it's exactly as it should be.  Nice to see something go right somewhere.  Every state should have such laws, and give them teeth with open carry.  I think it goes to show that, among regular folk, the decline of civilization is pretty apparent.  People are realizing that things spin a little further out of control each day, get a little worse each day, and eventually they might end up having to look after themselves.

 

Posted by: Reactionary at September 15, 2011 03:51 AM (xUM1Q)

45 WMAL morning show is going OFF on Attack Watch this morning. It is hilarious. I am sure MKH is behind it.

Posted by: Blaster at September 15, 2011 03:52 AM (Fw2Gg)

46 Economic reality is a cold hearted fact of life, even in boned CA:
 
California, a model for healthcare reform, is seeking to impose some of the toughest limits on government-subsidized coverage. If approved, the limits could herald deep Medicaid cuts nationwide.
 
It seems they want to impose copays on Medicaid patients....Five whole dollars. Oh the humanity.
 
It's amazing that any docs still take Medicaid there; they reimburse a doc $12 for an office visit.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:52 AM (ENKCw)

47 I would hope the new Republican President puts him on at Treasury Secretary of Fed Reserve Chief.

Would that it be so.


Posted by: Dollar Value at September 15, 2011 03:53 AM (lpWVn)

48 Carville is hilarious. I don't believe for one second he believes a word he says or writes. He's good at his job, but that job is generally to lie as best he can to help Democrat politicians. Obama change course? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! James, my dear boy, I think we see what you are doing, you're not offering advice to this President, you are putting forth your job resume for his Democrat party challenger(s).

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2011 03:53 AM (Gc/Qi)

49 Dems declare whenever they want. Election rules do not apply to them. Posted by: Hrothgar at September 15, 2011 07:44 AM (i3+c5)

 

Well said.  It seems there is no law breaking for which they can be prosecuted.  How long must this go on before we can rightly say that the state has become illegitimate?

Posted by: Reactionary at September 15, 2011 03:53 AM (xUM1Q)

50 Vic sleeping in this morning?

Posted by: dogfish at September 15, 2011 03:53 AM (N2yhW)

51 If Ron Paul were in the Fed it would be the end of the universe. Like matter-antimatter.

Posted by: Blaster at September 15, 2011 03:54 AM (Fw2Gg)

52 Carville is a pretty reliable indicator. He doesn't need to dress up his resume for the Clintons they are his resume.

Posted by: Blaster at September 15, 2011 03:55 AM (Fw2Gg)

53 52 California, a model for healthcare reform, is seeking to impose some of the toughest limits on government-subsidized coverage. If approved, the limits could herald deep Medicaid cuts nationwide.
 
That para was a quote. Damn this coffee is working slow.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 03:56 AM (ENKCw)

54 Democrats tell Barky jobs bill is bat crap.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 15, 2011 07:34 AM (Lt/Za)

There was a "pass this bill" ad on tv this morning that was paid by some commiecrat organization.  Don't those mendacious cocksuckers usually have agreement on an issue before they start throwing party money at it.  I hope that lying sack of shit Sherrod Brown is smacking his fatassed wife around over fears that funds for his re-election campaign are going straight down the toilet.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2011 03:56 AM (RKzwg)

55

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 07:14 AM (ENKCw)

Posted by: Reactionary at September 15, 2011 07:51 AM (xUM1Q)

Allahpundit suffers a major disconnect from reality at the sight of firearms in public.

Posted by: constitutional reality at September 15, 2011 03:58 AM (lpWVn)

56 Like matter-antimatter.

Posted by: Keynesian Demolition at September 15, 2011 04:00 AM (lpWVn)

57 49 Hrothgar,

Exactly.  My favorite most tortured judge wild talent for interpretive fludity comes from Lani Gunier saying that blacks should get multiple votes to "even things out".....

yup when I read the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and US election law I can definitely see the seedcorn for her ideas....

wait a sec did I spike my OJ with LSD?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:01 AM (AEIYh)

58 The GOP is obstructing Obama's shit!

Posted by: Harry Reid at September 15, 2011 04:01 AM (lpWVn)

59 Vic sleeping in this morning?

Maybe he had a night on the porch with Value-Rite.

Posted by: Retread at September 15, 2011 04:02 AM (1TfG9)

60 60 Captain Hate,

Jerod Brown is getting flushed down.

I think Ohio probably learned its lesson with the original Porkulus, no need for Porkulus 2-the Revenge.

Somebody should start a rumor in Ohio asking Jerod why the Half-Billion wasn't used to put Ohioans to work....

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:04 AM (AEIYh)

61 I do love my Two Minutes of Captain Hate in the morning.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff at September 15, 2011 04:05 AM (XE2Oo)

62 Is Trump endorsing Perry?  And is this good?

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 15, 2011 04:05 AM (44b3v)

63

It seems they want to impose copays on Medicaid patients....Five whole dollars. Oh the humanity.
 

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 07:52 AM (ENKCw)

 

Wow.  Which suggests there were zero co-pays before.  No wonder the waiting rooms are always flooded.  This is actually a great thing.  It's not that the 5 dollar fees will pay for anything substantial, but once you start demanding that the welfare people pay cash money, which might otherwise be spent on cigs, to pay for a doc to tell them that nothing can be done about their kid's runny nose, maybe then you can clear some space for people with actual problems with some hope of effecive treatment.

It's amazing how so many pig-ignorant "mothers" haven't the slightest clue about what to do when Jr. gets a sniffle, or else use the doctor's waiting room as a social club to chat with other similarly bored, husbandless, unemployed ladies.

Posted by: Reactionary at September 15, 2011 04:06 AM (xUM1Q)

64 69 Katya,

it's good for making me take a harder look at Mitt....

Trump is an assclown.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:06 AM (AEIYh)

65

I heard Dick Morris say Obama wants to run against Perry.  Perry is losing poll numbers as Americans are learning more about him. blah, blah, blah........

Perry must be a winner, Morris is a Romney guy.

Posted by: Case at September 15, 2011 04:06 AM (FD6YW)

66 "Is Trump endorsing Perry?  And is this good?"

It is good if Trump was ever seriously (I know, it's Trump) considering a third party run. I've read online (again, its on the interweb) that he had been mentioned as both possibly doing a third party run and/or being the main bankroller of a Palin third party run. It would remove him from both rumors. And since Palin is content to be a cheerleader and not a player, it would end the third party specter from 2012.

Unless Ron Paul and Alex Jones make a bid. The Tinfoil Hat Party nominees.

Posted by: Dick Nixon at September 15, 2011 04:08 AM (1ggui)

67 13
Who would have guessed there was Deep Corruption at the DOJ?

I would call this a must-read.

Posted by: real joe at September 15, 2011 04:09 AM (w7Lv+)

68 13
Who would have guessed there was Deep Corruption at the DOJ?

Ah shucks, it's just boys being boys.

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 15, 2011 07:23 AM (Lt/Za)

That's a good article, filled with stuff I didn't know. What a cesspool. Am Spec and Carville are in agreement on one thing, Holder must go.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 04:09 AM (ENKCw)

69 When you think weather, you think the rapper Common.  (unless you are racist)

Posted by: The Weather Channel ™ at September 15, 2011 04:12 AM (McHnx)

70 73 Dick Nixon,

I dunno there is always the Barr factor.  Kind of sad too, Bob Barr ran for no other reason that because Bob Barr liked hearing his name on the TV.  Barr was a favorite of mine on C-Span in the '90s, but his 180 to move to the libertarian positions seemed "convienient" to me.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:13 AM (AEIYh)

71 sven, there's a good op-ed in the WSJ this morning on why the Porkulus 2 Electric Boogaloo is nothing but a blue-state bailout in disguise.  I don't know how closely you stay in touch with Ohio politics but Kasich has a good ad where he's standing at a rural crossroad and talking about how the steps he's taken are already getting good results in terms of balancing the state budget without tax increases during a recession.  Plus you should see the ads for state Issue 2; even if you didn't know anything about what they're based on, the ads for it are very professionally done and the ads against it are the usual commiecrat fear mongering and class warfare garbage.  Some dipshit was in front of the local library collecting signatures for a bill against tightening up the voting lists and making sure the horseshit that the whore Jennifer Brunner did to aid the JEF remains in place.  I didn't even bother to tell him to go fuck himself before walking off.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2011 04:14 AM (RKzwg)

72

I am thinking that the powers-that-be have already decided who the Republican candidate will be.

That was called here months ago.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 15, 2011 04:17 AM (44b3v)

73

Let's face it.  There are two people Presnit Obama simply will not negotiate with.

John Boehner.....

and Emperor Hirohito.

 

 

Posted by: Spiker at September 15, 2011 04:18 AM (Y227l)

74 Now, this is the last straw.

Posted by: mcat at September 15, 2011 04:18 AM (k1rwm)

75 Who was President the last time a Republican was elected to NY-9? Warren G. Harding

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2011 04:18 AM (EPcuy)

76 71 69 Katya,

it's good for making me take a harder look at Mitt....


Did you miss 2008?!

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 04:19 AM (McHnx)

77 Posted by: mcat at September 15, 2011 08:18 AM (k1rwm) --------- And it's more expensive, too!

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2011 04:20 AM (EPcuy)

78 As a reader of this site I have dutifully turned myself in on attackwatch and I urge all readers to do the same.

Posted by: Yojimbo at September 15, 2011 04:21 AM (akKXh)

79 79 Captain Hate,

I try to keep up I am an Ohio expat living in Indiana actually.  I think Kasich is doing fine and will win reelection.  Ohio is not thrilled with it but grasps that the state G's reach far extends its new grasp, and that quick buck "fixes" like the Casinos are pipedreams.
Ohio's voter ID law should help cut down on the shennanigans up in Cuyahoga this go around....

you know we passed the correct law when HuffPo goes on its period over it.

http://preview.tinyurl.com/3dxs87w

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:22 AM (AEIYh)

80 "The trade in question that resulted in the $2 billion loss and forced the arrest of the trader is unknown but very much irrelevant: he was over his risk profile and nobody had stopped him: this reflects very badly on UBS."

Posted by: mcat at September 15, 2011 04:22 AM (k1rwm)

81 84 somejoe?,

No, I preferred Mitt out of the final three.  I was leaning towards Perry the last couple weeks, but Trump is toxic to me.  Getting endorsed by Trump ranks up there with getting the Al Gore seal of approval....

Mitt has a credibility and consistency problem.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:24 AM (AEIYh)

82 Hey, guess which GOP canadiate Michael Moore endorsed?

Posted by: Joffen at September 15, 2011 04:24 AM (EPcuy)

83 80 Katya,

yup....

"my turn" loses for us everytime....if it really is "Mitt's Turn" let's just end the charade and get focused on making Ogabe lose it publically....it's getting close

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:25 AM (AEIYh)

84 Now, this is the last straw.

Posted by: mcat at September 15, 2011 08:18 AM (k1rwm)


Is nothing sacred!?

Posted by: Tami at September 15, 2011 04:25 AM (X6akg)

85

@46 sven10077

"the judges are all honest, non-partisan straight shooters I am certain."

I just threw-up a little.......

 

Posted by: Case at September 15, 2011 04:26 AM (FD6YW)

86 Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 08:19 AM (McHnx)

Trump endorsed himself as potus. If he can't have it, no one else can, either.

A Trump endorsement of Perry is as valid as Palin's endorsement of Perry. Neither post expiration dates. But that itch to bitch just keeps getting scratched in public given the nature of the political beast.

Posted by: James Carville at September 15, 2011 04:27 AM (lpWVn)

87 90 Joffen,

what a big shocker....

Mik'al Moore picked the "Republican Obama most fears"....

yeah it is stuff like that that tells me that when Perry is attacked by the donks as being "the one we really want to face" to run him.

That said Perry must do better at the next debate, auch as these things really are debates or he will start to suffer.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:27 AM (AEIYh)

88

Man, I don't care how much a joke Trump is.  I'll never support Romney.

Posted by: katya, the designated driver at September 15, 2011 04:28 AM (44b3v)

89 89 84

No, I preferred Mitt out of the final three.


Hell's Bells!  Even McCain was better than Mitt!  And McCain is  broken excuse for a useless politician.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 04:29 AM (McHnx)

90 93 Case,

well better a little than a lot?

to help get the rest out....

ponder the twisted lib logic of Kelo...

CT nuked the old lady's home for "economic gain" for the "common good" based on property tax valuation....

they now have a non owned hole in the ground generating nu revenue.

"change"

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:32 AM (AEIYh)

91

Down Under news...

Good news for the USA rugby team currently in NZ for the Rugby World Cup - they beat Russia today - some good pics from the game

Looks like you have some patriotic rugby supporters in NZ for the Cup!

Hope the link works - haven't done the tiny thingie for a while

Posted by: aussie at September 15, 2011 04:32 AM (j+8Nu)

92    #90   Joffen! hilarious!!!!

Just what Huntsman needs for his public hanging, that tub o' lard albatross around his neck.

How many Democrats will do for Huntsman what Hillary's pumas did for McCain? How many Democrat "beautiful people" still want to be seen with Michael Moore?

Posted by: James Carville at September 15, 2011 04:34 AM (lpWVn)

93 97 somejones?,

I disagree, Juan Queeg was the pushed candidate and kept Huckadoodle around just to run interference.  Mitt wouldn't have quit like Juan did.  Juan decided somewhere around mid August it was his duty to history to lose nobly to Barry.

96 Katya,

a lot of room between "take another look at" and "wildly support"....that said right now Romney beats Bambi Perry doesn't....

my sole objective is beating Ogabe...I can worry about conservative purity after we get the radioactive material out of 1600 Penn

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:35 AM (AEIYh)

94

Morning, folks. I'm enjoying a visit from my mom.

From Legal Insurrection:

>>Johnston was giving his introductory lecture to Social Sciences 1140: “Self, Culture and Society,” when he explained to the nearly 500 students that the course was going to focus on texts, not opinions, and despite what they may have heard elsewhere, everyone is not entitled to their opinion.

>>“All Jews should be sterilized” would be an example of an unacceptable and dangerous opinion, Johnston told the students.

>>He didnÂ’t notice Sarah Grunfeld storm out. Grunfeld, a 22-year-old in her final year at York, understood JohnstonÂ’s example to be his personal opinion.

>>She contacted Oriyah Barzilay, the president of Hasbara at York — an Israel advocacy group on campus — who then sent a press release to media and other Jewish community groups calling for Johnston to be fired.

The source I got the link from already made the point that “some students simply do not have the basic powers of concentration and comprehension required for college work–not to mention, of course, that there are way too many rewards to hypersensitivity and public offense taking.”

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 15, 2011 04:35 AM (XdlcF)

95 sven, I didn't realize you were still that close; no wonder you're so well informed.  Btw, I haven't heard anything from Twitch Strickland since they dragged him out of whatever glorified crossroad shithole he stinks up in southeast Ohio to go to Madison back when the state union fucks were making complete asses of themselves.  I think it's finally dawned on the union humps that having Twitch on their side has zero upside.  Maybe they just left him in Madison.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 15, 2011 04:36 AM (RKzwg)

96

@98 sven10077

"No, I preferred Mitt out of the final three."

Ok, that got the rest of it.

Posted by: Case at September 15, 2011 04:37 AM (FD6YW)

97

The professor is Jewish, btw.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 15, 2011 04:37 AM (XdlcF)

98 No, I preferred Mitt out of the final three.  Mitt has a credibility and consistency problem. --Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 08:24 AM (AEIYh)

Mitt's endorsement lacks logic.

You're mine, bitch.



Posted by: Coveted Tinfoil Hat Prize at September 15, 2011 04:39 AM (lpWVn)

Posted by: nickless at September 15, 2011 04:41 AM (MMC8r)

100 101 97 somejones?,   s☺mej☼e  (cut and paste fify)

I disagree, Juan Queeg was the pushed candidate and kept Huckadoodle around just to run interference.  Mitt wouldn't have quit like Juan did.  Juan decided somewhere around mid August it was his duty to history to lose nobly to Barry

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 08:35 AM (AEIYh)


What ever.  Nice use of all the old buzz words weirdling. Mitt did not have to quit , he lost badly to two weak candidates.  If he had any brains he would have taken the hint.

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 04:42 AM (McHnx)

101 103 Captain Hate,

well I've drifted a bit since '97....

El Paso, Aberdeen MD, Myrtle beach SC, Leesville LA, Columbia SC, here at Indy Metro IN.....

I lost touch with the goings on in Ohio in Texas and Louisiana and am in awe at how devestated the state got financially, but what can you do?

The SW Ohio GOP empowering the Cleveland gang was stupid and a waste, it allowed the donks to finish off Ohio's competitiveness.  I sorta knew the writing was on the wall when the state allowed the tobacco industry money to be put in the general fund and then found "dire needs" to grow the budget by to meet the "excess money in the coffers".  It is telling that no GOPer runs ramming that idiocy down the State Legislature's throat.

Ohio could have retired their bond issue with it or established a multi-billion dollar rainy day fund through capitalizing a bond issue for that purpose, instead I got to hear of the millions in taxpayer money that went to nail salons.  When the boom bust of course we started running deficits for such genius things as 2.14 million to "aid and establish wineries"......

yeah just what the state should be involved in....


Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:46 AM (AEIYh)

102 >>“All Jews should be sterilized” would be an example of an unacceptable and dangerous opinion.

...Sarah Grunfeld storm out...calling for Johnston to be fired.

Posted by: Mama AJ at September 15, 2011 08:35 AM (XdlcF)

Another winner! Sarah Grunfeld, come on down!

Posted by: Coveted Tinfoil Hat Prize at September 15, 2011 04:46 AM (lpWVn)

103 Vic sleeping in this morning?

Maybe he had a night on the porch with Value-Rite.

Posted by: Retread at September 15, 2011 08:02 AM (1TfG9)

Exactly right. My first porch sittin. Now omelets and hash browns.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 04:47 AM (M9Ie6)

104 Gordon Ramsay's dwarf porn double Percy Foster dies in badger den

Posted by: nickless at September 15, 2011 08:41 AM (MMC8r)

THAT was an irresistible AoS headline link; and it is real folks.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 15, 2011 04:48 AM (ENKCw)

105 106 tinfoil hat prize,

if politics were consistent and logical...

explain bambi....

That said Mitt was the most solid of the final three, Mccain was a polarizing figure who had in essence called a large portion of the GOP electorate "racists" during his MAVERICK! peak in the Bush years....

nominating him was as genius a move for us as nominating Zell miller would be for the liberals in the Democrat caucus.....

Mitt is by no stretch of the imagination my dream candidate, but Perry seems to be alienating the butthurt Palin and Bachmann fans to a greater degree than Mitt....

I want to win next fall.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:49 AM (AEIYh)

106

Did you know that Medicaid alone accounts for 20% of state budgets across the 57 states?  That's right folks, one-fifth of all the state taxes goes to support one out of control program...Now, how do you think all those immigrants are going to get their healthcare???  You know, the ones Rick Perry encourages by granting them goodies like in-state tuition...

Posted by: survey sez at September 15, 2011 04:52 AM (wrGst)

107 108 somejoke?,

Whatever you say tiger, I saw a race where the HILLARY! version of Op Chaos and the GOP establishment ran with McCain to say "it's my turn".

There were a multitude of threads and posts here about it you might recall?

In Louisiana McCain's gaining the nom through Huckadoodle's theatrics was greeted with a nice long fart.

John "enthusiasm magnifier" McCain....

hell he did so well let's darkhorse nominate him again eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:52 AM (AEIYh)

108 This just in on the ATTACK WAAAAATCH! twitter feed:

(What's up with the spelling problems at AttackWatch.com?)

>>>AtackWatch AtackWatch
We here at AttackWatch don't like it when you lie to us; lie to us and we will not hesitate to use sticks. #attackwatch

Sounds like something I've heard before. What was it? Oh yeah, "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."

Posted by: Piñon Farmer at September 15, 2011 04:52 AM (IzuWw)

109 I am almost through with my coffee this morning and ready for my daily apply juice. F&F on now warning of arsenic in apple juice.

Great

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 04:53 AM (M9Ie6)

110 In retrospect, maybe it might have been better to have Lee Fisher have the job in 2002, considering the mess that Taft, and co, made of it, and left Blackwell to shoulder the blame.

Posted by: ian cormac at September 15, 2011 04:54 AM (eMSXN)

111 They need to send Attackwatch, back to the ACME warehouse with the Rocketsled

Posted by: ian cormac at September 15, 2011 04:55 AM (eMSXN)

112 107   Gordon Ramsay's dwarf porn double Percy Foster dies in badger den   WTF is a diamond encrusted Soda Stream? Need answers.

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 15, 2011 04:56 AM (0M3AQ)

113 117 Vic,

arsenic is good for you in small quantities...

10-50 PPB aids proper digestion and is a fertility booster.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 04:58 AM (AEIYh)

Posted by: Bomber at September 15, 2011 04:59 AM (qzoN5)

115 115 108 somejoke?,

Whatever you say tiger, I saw a race where the HILLARY! version of Op Chaos and the GOP establishment ran with McCain to say "it's my turn".

There were a multitude of threads and posts here about it you might recall?

In Louisiana McCain's gaining the nom through Huckadoodle's theatrics was greeted with a nice long fart.

John "enthusiasm magnifier" McCain....

hell he did so well let's darkhorse nominate him again eh?

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 08:52 AM (AEIYh)


Well, you obviously win teh internetz by teh funneh of my name.  Well done!!

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 05:00 AM (McHnx)

116 DWARF porn star has been found dead

That will teach these assholes to piss around with my house. There are some things that I still give a shit about.

Posted by: Heny Badger still doesn't give a shit at September 15, 2011 05:00 AM (M9Ie6)

117 arsenic is good for you in small quantities...

Do you remember Chief Dan George's comment to the medicine drummer in Josey Wales?

Posted by: Heny Badger still doesn't give a shit at September 15, 2011 05:02 AM (M9Ie6)

118 oops sock off

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 05:02 AM (M9Ie6)

119 New Palestinian state will be "Juden-rein." Now that's a surprise, eh?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 15, 2011 05:03 AM (UlUS4)

Posted by: Honey Badger at September 15, 2011 05:04 AM (w7Lv+)

121 118 Ian Cormac,

Maybe... I think the die was cast back in Rhodes' day when he took a guy from Cleveland who was only slightly to the right of Dennis Kucinich economically in his philosophy on taxes, spending, and the welfare state.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:04 AM (AEIYh)

122 In Louisiana McCain's gaining the nom through Huckadoodle's theatrics was greeted with a nice long fart.

To paraphrase Voltaire, if Huckabee had not existed, Mitt would have invented him.

Huckabee was on nobody's radar in 2007.  He had no money, no organization.  He was running against Mitt Romney, the promised one, who spent millions in Iowa and had a massive top-down organization.  Huckabee beat him and rocketed to the national stage while Mitt's people were screaming about anti-mormon floating crosses. 

Huckabee only became a contender because Mitt was such a poor candidate. 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 15, 2011 05:06 AM (FkKjr)

123 122 Bomber,

my favorite job thus far in my march along the mortal coil had "being sucked through a jet engine" as an occupational hazard...

little did I know that had I learned to serve cocktails INSIDE the plane it would have been "being sucked by a jet engine"....

thanks don't forget to tip the waitress...

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:07 AM (AEIYh)

124 Fox playing all the Perry bashers this morning. Perry will have to figure out how to get around all the MFM.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 05:07 AM (M9Ie6)

125 123 s%7m3J*n!,

we try

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:08 AM (AEIYh)

126 The the innoculation bull shit over yet? My opinion is who gives a fuck! Plus that doctor/innoculation shit is deferred to the wife. Whatever she wants to do, and the less I know the better on that shit.

Posted by: Jimmah at September 15, 2011 05:08 AM (F13r2)

127 Speaking of Fox they are touting the next debate. Fox and Google, sounds familiar.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 05:08 AM (M9Ie6)

128 You know.

Some people really should just keep their damned traps shut.

Posted by: As If! at September 15, 2011 05:13 AM (piMMO)

129 Well they are only marginally better, than Air America TV, and the Clowns show that Turner built, the fact that they basically republish Al Ap's Minitrue bulletin,
under their byline, doesn't commend them.

Posted by: ian cormac at September 15, 2011 05:14 AM (eMSXN)

130 130 Bevel,

I can't disagree that Mitt is less than leg-tingle inspiring.  Of course he faced Albino Barry the Felony Pardoner, Juan Queeg Captain of the USS Reacharound Across the Aisle, RON PAULLLL!!!1111, a wax figure of Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani's shadow, and Alan keyes so it is not like this was the most stunning field ever at all.  Of the aforementioned from a PURITY ELEVENTY !!!!!11111 I probably preferred Fred and Keyes.

Both lacked executive track records and experience, I am never in love with having candidates who only have been legislators.

I prefer Perry personally, but it seems the electorate prefers Romney over Barack and is nervous about Perry v barack.  There is some shading of this going on from the far more hostile to Perry media bent.  Doesn't feel like the wild run to McCain the newsies were engaged in though.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:14 AM (AEIYh)

131 Imagine the racist imagery. White southern twang, with loaded sidearm relieving black man of his duties on Jan 20, 2013.

Posted by: Jimmah at September 15, 2011 05:17 AM (F13r2)

132 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: steevy at September 15, 2011 05:17 AM (fyOgS)

133 132 Vic,

I hope so, that said I have not yet gotten that Reagan vibe of an ability to do so yet. 

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:17 AM (AEIYh)

134 140 Jimmah,

I'm past caring.  The black community would make Patches the Electro technicolor RagDoll replacing Bambi about color.  Whoever replaces him will face the same crap from the PRBT.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:19 AM (AEIYh)

135 134 Jimmah,

Indeed...Barack may be playing Jazz Kazoo while Rome burns but it does seem the GOP hopefuls are debating what salad dressing is best instead of stressing the need for buckets.  Baffling frankly.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:21 AM (AEIYh)

136 Really, because his instincts are all wrong, I take issue with Perry's way of addressing an issue, but at least he's focused on the big ones. It's like Mittens
has learned nothing from the '94 race, where he ran away from the Reagan era,
and was still beaten senseless with Bain Capital reports

Posted by: ian cormac at September 15, 2011 05:21 AM (eMSXN)

137
*shakes head*

*buffs fingers*

Posted by: s☺mej☼e at September 15, 2011 05:23 AM (McHnx)

138 While dodging idiots on the way to work this morning, the thought occurred to me that the modern automobile is a marvel of engineering.

A complex machine with ten thousand parts, hundreds of which are moving, that is routinely operated by millions of mechanically illiterate people in an almost completely uncontrolled environment.

And yet, this wonder of the mechanical arts generally performs flawlessly, millions of times a day.

It's incredible when you think about it.

Posted by: toby928™ at September 15, 2011 05:25 AM (GTbGH)

139 69 Is Trump endorsing Perry?  And is this good?

Well, he met with Palin a while back (remember they had some sort of photo op in a restaurant or something?), so I don't think it means anything in particular.  Perhaps it's a fundraising thing or merely Perry trying to inure himself to Trump so the Donald doesn't actively knee cap him. 

Posted by: Y-not is pretty sick of the naggers on the Bachmann thread at September 15, 2011 05:29 AM (5H6zj)

140 147 Toby 928th,

yup, and I suspect we have damn near perfected the internal combustion engine as a transportation solution....

if "100 miles a gallon" engines were economically sound they'd have happened by now w/out the crusade.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:33 AM (AEIYh)

141 C'mon! All the cool kids are chanting it.... "Pass This Bill" is the New "Hope and Change"

Posted by: naturalfake at September 15, 2011 05:36 AM (I49Jm)

142 Dem spokes-liar on Fox:

Loan to Solyndra in process since 2005

i.e. Its Bush's fault. No mention that loan was actually turned down in Bush adm.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 05:38 AM (M9Ie6)

143 145 Ian,

I am no huge fan of Mitt, seriously.  I have never caucused for him as he had withdrawn by the time Ohio voting got around to it.  This field is weak IMHO.  I am hoping for a dark horse, of the remaining field I personally prefer Perry but will back whoever wins except PAUL11!!!!

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:39 AM (AEIYh)

144 Mitt is by no stretch of the imagination my dream candidate, but Perry seems to be alienating the butthurt Palin and Bachmann fans to a greater degree than Mitt....

I want to win next fall.

---

That's just the really vocal loyalists.  I doubt they represent more than 10-20% of Bachmann's (or Palin's) support.  Perry is much more of a threat to their candidates (or non-candidates) than Romney is because everyone knows Mitt is the one who has earned the "establishment squish" labels.  So they figure they can defeat him when the field narrows by appealing to base issue voters. 

That's also why a lot of the buzz they're putting out there now has to do with guilt by association (oh noes, Trump might endorse Perry!) or even claiming that Perry is the establishment candidate (which I think is part of this stupid "crony capitalism" stuff).  Hell, I even read yesterday a really weak-sauce attempt to imply that Mrs. Perry's $60k/yr non-profit fundraising job had to be an example of nefarious doings by Perry.  Ridiculous. 

The folks for whom victory over Obama is the most important thing and who are making their decisions based on issues, not on personality cults, are more likely to go to Perry than Romney should the field narrow to, say, Bachmann, Romney, and Perry. 

And let's face it, if the loyalists who are screaming so loudly against Perry decide to campaign against him (should he win the primary), they will basically be conducting a kamikaze operation, because there's no way in god's green earth they will ever have a voice in the GOP after that.  They'll be about as relevant as the Paulbots.

So go head, make my day. 

Posted by: Y-not is pretty sick of the naggers on the Bachmann thread at September 15, 2011 05:40 AM (5H6zj)

145 I prefer Perry personally, but it seems the electorate prefers Romney over Barack and is nervous about Perry v barack.

I'm curious on what you're basing this.  A couple of polls over the past week or so? 

Perry jumped ahead of Mitt almost immediately and Mitt has been running for years now.  Mitt is rebounding - slightly - but I don't see a big shift back to him.  And, Bachmann is going to have to drop out after her latest stunt.  If Palin gets in, she'll pick up some of those supporters, but the rest... well, where will they go?  Romney?  Gingrich?  or Perry? 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2011 05:45 AM (5H6zj)

146 Y-not I am basing it on the timeline and peaks and valleys of the Perry polling and media narrative.  Not enough word on the street around me to judge really.  The GOP primary is low on the radar still.

I enjoyed your 155 and 156.  I think Palin is effectively a nonfactor, but could see bachmann playing the Huckadoodle spoiler role if the establishment wants to make it harder for Perry.  I need to contact the RNC and see if I can get the lowdown on what they are looking for or what their pollling says about electability if I resume the flow of the donations I had been giving SARAH!Pac.

Bachmann's antics and Palin's little display debate night inspired me to cut ties with SarahPac.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 05:50 AM (AEIYh)

147 The Bachman smearing of Perry is shameful.  Here is link to local report about Perry's friendship with young girl dying of cervical cancer.  http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news%2Fin_focus&id=8354519

Posted by: Retire the JEF, longtime lurker at September 15, 2011 06:02 AM (lLXZV)

148 Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 09:50 AM

I think we have the Mitt folks trying to beat the "Perry is not electable" drum on the one side and the Bachmann/Palin folks beating the "Perry is a crooked professional/establishment politician" on the other side.  In other words, Perry is getting it from both directions right now, which I guess kind of makes sense.  He's moved from exciting newcomer to the front-runner to beat status.  I bet this is about as bad as it will be for Perry.  If he weathers it, it seems to me then he will start really solidifying his support.  

Bachmann overplayed the "crooked politician" hand, imho, which I think will mean two things: she'll be dropping out soon (her polling numbers are really bad now) and Palin's (and others') use of that line of attack will be less effective.  Also, let's face it, a couple more days or weeks talking about Gardasil and even the most tuned-out GOP primary voter is going to say "WTF?  Why are we talking about a vaccine initiative from four years that didn't even happen when I am out of work?"  Also, I do think Bachmann's (and others') vaccine attack has the side-benefit of making Perry look pro-science, which is certainly a good thing. 

They can beat on this stuff all they want, but Perry is the one with the best case to make in the general about jobs and economic growth.  Even accounting for whatever good Romney accomplished in MA, that was a different economic climate and since then he's done nothing.  I always thought it was a mistake for Romney to rest on his laurels these past three years and I think I was right. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2011 06:03 AM (5H6zj)

149 sven,

Here's a nice NRO piece summarizing Perry's recent swing through Virginia.  He sounds like he's doing great.

I have to say, irrespective of the debate performances, everything I've read about Perry's working of the crowds has been positive.  The guy sounds like he has a tremendous amount of charisma.  I can't wait until he comes to Utah... I hope he comes to Utah.

I am going to give to Perry, not the RNC, btw.  I can't spare that much right now, but I want to send something.  I hope that will get me on a volunteer list. 

I am surrounded by Romney supporters - with some really wacky Paulbots scattered in here and there.  It's a little frustrating. The folks I talk with are really not that excited about Romney (they're disappointed in his failure to really renounce Masscare), but he's kind of the default candidate here in Utah.  I actually think Perry could grab some support here if he tried.  There are a lot of folks (the majority, I think) who are really disenchanted by the hard-core tea partiers (and libertarians), but who are solid conservatives that find Romney to be too liberal.  Those could be Perry supporters if he made a play for them.

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2011 06:12 AM (5H6zj)

150 160 Y-not,

I may swing my support to Perry.  My only fear about Perry is that he WILL play weaker in New England than Mitt in all likelihood.  Perry will do more things I like, but arguably Mitt has the potential for the bigger mandate.  I think perry will win handily, but Mitt may have the potential to be palatable to enough soft Democrats to generate a shockwave so resounding it alters the internal balance of Democrat policy.

I am pondering many things at this stage of the primary season.

I will likely make up my mind by Thanksgiving and then lobby hard for my preference in Ohio.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 06:20 AM (AEIYh)

151 160 Y-not,

You can get on a volunteer list by going to "rickperry dot org", once I have decided I will be going to work for their campaign.  I worked even for McCain's campaign even though he was my least favorite guy in the race but Paul.  The biggest gift a person makes is not money but influence and word of mouth.

We're all in this together.

Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 06:23 AM (AEIYh)

152 @162
Yeah, I did that as well.  Only got one canned email. 

I don't even know if he'll bother with Utah -- it's so overwhelmingly Mitt.  But I hope he does, because I really think Mitt's support is soft and there's a lot of money in Utah that he (Perry) should try for. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2011 06:25 AM (5H6zj)

153 When things settle out Romney will be down in the < 1% range with Huntsman and the rest of the fringe candidates.

That will happen when the rest of the electorate catches up on Romney's record that the Morons already know.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 06:32 AM (M9Ie6)

154 @161
I will vote for Mitt if he's the nominee, but I am disappointed in him on a couple of key issues (health care, ethanol).  And, he needs to stop mischaracterizing Perry's Soc Sec stand - and stop fear-mongering.  That's very damaging to the Party and conservatism, imho.


I also am a little worried about electability for Mitt.  One, the anti-Mormon sentiment amongst the media and Hollywood types is very strong (because of the gay rights issues).  I was really taken aback from the polling a while back that showed that the Left is even more anti-LDS than the right is.  So whatever bad we've seen from our Evangelical wing -- expect much worse from the Left. 

Two, I am hearing first-hand reports of muck-raking efforts from national media types against Mitt's donors along the lines of that they are developing a story line that Romney's campaign is going around campaign finance rules.  These folks (wealthy business types) are being targeted.  Their families and associates are receiving phone calls asking them to comment on charges that their gifts to Romney are illegal.  It's so bad that these Mitt donors are afraid to donate to charitable causes (except anonymously) because they don't want the blow-back from this muck-raking to affect the charities they support. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 15, 2011 06:32 AM (5H6zj)

155 From the DOOM thread.

Perry's lead in Florida increased from 7 points to 9 points in the first poll taken after the debate.

Hot Air has a story up on it.

Posted by: dave_in_fla at September 15, 2011 10:14 AM (9t6jP)


Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 06:34 AM (M9Ie6)

156

I'm not sure how anyone thinks Perry has a worse shot against Obama than Romney.  If the polls show it at this point, I think that's because the great unwashed have no idea who Perry is, while Romney has essentially been a candidate for President for over 5 years now.

 

Posted by: BurtTC at September 15, 2011 06:36 AM (TOk1P)

157 163 Y-not,

Contact him anyway, you're gonna be needed if he wins the nom and the UT Romney partisans are serving weak tea.

If I can use my contacts in the LA, OH, and IN GOP to get point of contact data I will pass it along....


Posted by: sven10077 at September 15, 2011 06:41 AM (AEIYh)

158 Contact him anyway, you're gonna be needed if he wins the nom and the UT Romney partisans are serving weak tea.

---

Yeah. 

My registration just went through, I think.  (I was slow to switch my drivers license.)  So I will probably call the Party organization here in Utah County.  I imagine it will create quite a stir for someone from this county to be asking about the Perry campaign! 

Posted by: Y-not, Utahn for Perry at September 15, 2011 06:43 AM (5H6zj)

159

161..... I think perry will win handily, but Mitt may have the potential to be palatable to enough soft Democrats to generate a shockwave so resounding it alters the internal balance of Democrat policy.
__________

The same could be said for Perry though, Sven.

The things that Perry is getting beaten up for by his fellow conservatives, are things that would appeal to a lot of dissatisfied Dems. There are a lot of conservative Christian latino voters, for one example.

Mitt has less appeal to blue collar voters than Perry does......Mitt comes across as a stuffy, silver-spoon type.

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 15, 2011 07:17 AM (Sfm5w)

160 My attendance on the blog's been spotty, because work is kicking my butt this week. But here's my contribution to the morning news, somewhat late but still nice to see. Every time I've seen the video I'm reminded of how good people really can be; THAT's how we get it done in Utah. http://thedailywh.at/2011/09/13/selfless-act-of-the-day/ 169 I imagine it will create quite a stir for someone from this county to be asking about the Perry campaign! I actually think it will be interesting to see the establishment GOP in Utah back Romney, with the Utah tea party backing Perry. Both are strong factions in the state. Let's get ready to rumble!

Posted by: LizLem at September 15, 2011 07:23 AM (lSuMX)

161

RedState has a new post called "Rick Perry's pro-life decision"......which has a video that explains Perry's EO on the Gardasil thing. It give answers to the question of 'how could he do such a thing'.

[Wish I could get the hang of posting a link here, every time I try, I fail.....guess I'm just hopelessly computer stoopid.]

 

Posted by: ConservativeMenAreJustHotter at September 15, 2011 07:25 AM (Sfm5w)

162 The things that Perry is getting beaten up for by his fellow conservatives REPUBLICANS

Don't confuse the terms, they are not the same.

Posted by: Vic at September 15, 2011 07:30 AM (M9Ie6)

163 Man my wifi is running slow as shit this morning. I noticed Sarah Palin has a Facebook post about Mr. Obama over there pickin' the winners and losers in regards to Solyndra. I look forward to her cultists' inevitable attempt to use this as an opportunity to claim that she's the first person in America to catch on to this being a corrupt venture.

Posted by: Oily Taitz at September 15, 2011 07:39 AM (TUax9)

164

173.......The things that Perry is getting beaten up for by his fellow conservatives REPUBLICANS

Don't confuse the terms, they are not the same.

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Well that's true, Vic.... Perry is to the right of Reagan in many ways, but in spite of that, I think that there could be a significant number of 'Perry Democrats' in the general....much like there were 'Reagan Democrats' in 1980 and 1984.

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