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Another clash with local authorities over home bible study

California Couple Fined $300 for Holding Home Bible Studies

But that headline is really deceptive. We have seen this before. The clash isnÂ’t over “home bible studies”. The clash is over having multiple meetings with 50 participants in a residential zoned neighborhood. Look at it in another manner, would people gripe as much about this if the city stopped regular Tupperware parties with 50 people in attendance. Imagine this as your neighborhood and this many people coming in regularly and parking all up and down the street in front of your homes.  What do the Morons think?

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La dolce vida, vacations all the time are not enough

She must were a $42K bracelet at WH functions. Ostentation during economic hard times has got presidents on the pressÂ’s shit list in the past. Not so now.

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Bickering over rescue of Post Office escalates

On this day in 1789 Congress authorized the Post Office. It IS one of the few things that the government does that is actually authorized by the Constitution.  By this time next year it will probably be gone. The government since the 30s and FDR has been incapable of doing anything efficiently.

Of course the Democrats refuse to reign in labor costs which is what is driving the P.O. into bankruptcy. It isnÂ’t a service to them, it is a socialist jobs program.

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Some of ya'll were complaining that Perry needed to go on the attack mode yesterday, well here it is

He is going after Romney:

“We don’t need to nominate Obama-lite,” Perry continued. “We don’t need to nominate someone who is going to blur the lines between President Obama and our nominee.”

The focus of the attack was on Masscare. He also needs to go after Bachmann but he may see her star as fading anyway due to self-implosion, so why take a chance.  Myself, I fully expected to see Romney fading after Labor Day and name recognition becoming less of a factor. But PerryÂ’s entry into the race combined with Bachmann committing political suicide has changed the dynamic considerably.

Keep in mind the debate is tonight. May be interesting if Fox doesnÂ’t screw it up by posting a lot of Paulbot questions based on them flooding those write-in things.

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And speaking of Romney we have a new NH poll

This one is showing Romney with a commanding lead in NH, followed by Ron Paul, and then Jon Huntsman. (that should tell you something).

Before all you Romneybots start dancing in the streets you should know this is another one of those “university polls”. In addition,  a lot of us have always said Romney would likely take NH because he is something of a favorite son there,

But, favorite son States can also be a double edged sword. The implication will be that he MUST take NH and by a good margin or he will be seen to be failing.  That same thing goes for Bachmann in Iowa.

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More fallout on Solyndra fraud

“After we got the loan guarantee, they were just spending money left and right,” said former Solyndra engineer Lindsey Eastburn.

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And who else made millions off of the Solyndra swindle?

One of the Dems favorite groups thatÂ’s who.

Lawyers netted millions in solar loan deal

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And in the other government fraud case Light Squared, who else's communist nose turned up?

As Republican lawmakers begin to dig into the White House's cozy relationship with a startup wireless company and the wealthy Democratic donor who owns it, a new character has appeared on the story's edges: liberal superdonor, conservative bete noire and controversial investor George Soros.

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How many people knew about this from the EEOC?

They were trying to make it legally hazardous to do criminal background checks on new hires.  Through what travesty of legal theory was this?

It is high time to get rid of this travesty of a commission.  Even during Republican adm this commission is at best worthless. During communist administrations it runs amuck.

10 And finally

F&F does one of their shitty “fair and balanced” debates. Juan Williams will be telling Republicans how they should campaign. Another reason why these things are just stupid. Why not put up two Republicans, one from the conservative wing and one from the squishy wing of the party.

Of course Juan loves him some Romney and so does the nominal "Republican" and both said that Bachmann was essentially sunk.

11 Anyone else awake yet?

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La dolce vida, vacations all the time are not enough

She must were a $42K bracelet at WH functions. Ostentation during economic hard times has got presidents on the pressÂ’s shit list in the past. Not so now.

Most of the time those things are loaned or given to the Obamas in hopes it may move you up on the "Stimulus Loan" list.

13 Imagine this as your neighborhood and this many people coming in regularly and parking all up and down the street in front of your homes.  What do the Morons think?

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 06:55 AM (M9Ie6)

Meh, I get occasional parties where the street is parked up and down; as long as they aren't too loud too late I don't care what they do.  The problem I have is with my deadbeat neighbors that park their fucking beaters on the street even though they have driveways where the pieces of shit belong.  Fuck that shit.

14 Fox now bragging that they added Gary Johnson to the debate. Another fringe candidate to suck time.

15 Meh, I get occasional parties where the street is parked up and down; as long as they aren't too loud too late I don't care what they do.

I think that would be the attitude of most reasonable people. However think about them doing it a couple of times a week every week.

16 Started drinking early today - not due to despair - needed less then the full pint bottle of Sam Adams for the crockpot roast

17 14
I, for one, am glad we have the Fourth Estate to vet and select our candidates for us

18 Matt Lauer and Al Sharpton are making asses out of themselves about Troy "Worm Food" Davis.  I wish they'd been executed also.

19 Started drinking early today - not due to despair - needed less then the full pint bottle of Sam Adams for the crockpot roast

LOL, it is that season. I started a beef stew in the slow cooker this morning myself. No Sam Adams in it though.

20 Gretchen calling Clinton a "moderate" Democrat. Hahahahaha, I guess compared to a full bore Marxist a socialist is "moderate".

21 I wish they would bring in Thad McCotter then..

At least that's a guy who can give red meat answers maybe even better than Newt..

22 Matt Lauer and Al Sharpton are making asses out of themselves about Troy "Worm Food" Davis.

One wonders how they explain that the majority of the jury was black?

23 I don't know that the early primaries will be as influential as they have been in past years this time around.

I was reading some more on that proportional vs. winner-take-all stuff.. Illinois here decided to go with the latter..  we're in March.. and it's more of a gut feeling than anything, but I think more Illinoisans will go for Romney than Perry.  Perry still sounds a bit too much like GW Bush.  Let's see hwo he does in the debates..

And I'm still not convinced Palin isn't getting in.. I was before.. but after reading her comments from the Hannity show, it kinda sounds like she might - especially after Bachmann's implosion.

24 I wish they would bring in Thad McCotter then..

They need to exclude everyone who is polling less than 5% in the last 3 polls.

25 The only people to blame for Troy Davis, if he was indeed not guilty of pulling the trigger, are his supposed friends who set him up and fingered him. Otherwise, he was running with a criminal crowd who are all partly responsible for the Capital Murder and he materially participated in the event that night.

26 California Couple Fined $300 for Holding Home Bible Studies

I have no problem with home studies and home parties..

If it is happening once a week with 50 cars however, I think it's incumbent on the home owner to be courteous to his neighbors about it..

Chances are that many of those cars are the Mr. and Mrs. Spouse meeting there on the way home from work.    If there was a little bit of planning, maybe they should have carpooled and cut back on traffic.

If it's a big enough house to hold 50 + people in there, a few extra cars shouldn't be an issue.

27 The JEF is making an ass out of himself today by using the bridge between Cincy and Kentucky as a fucking prop in his jobs bill.  As sven has pointed out, the reason that bridge's renovation being deferred is because of former shit for brains Ohio governor Twitch Strickland, who the SCoaMF unsuccessfully campaigned for, was punishing southwest Ohio by moving it back.  Needless to say the MFM doesn't point that out but instead points out that the bridge is being used to attach Boehner and McConnell.  I assume those two will point out what sven said after the Indonesian Imbecile makes an ass out of himself because, if they don't, it would add a new benchmark of witlessness for the party of stoopid.

28 The Republican bigwigs made the Primary rules even worse. First 3 are proportional and the rest are winner take all. That means the first 3 are worthless for anything except PR value unless one candidate blows the rest away. That is unlikely in a race with 10 billion candidates.

This is the kind of shit from the RNC that pisses me off. If they were going to "fix" the shit that gave us asshole McCain they should have made them ALL proportional.

If they were not going to fix it they should have left it the hell alone.

29 I, for one, would be ok with no death penalty if they could guarantee a life sentence would indeed be for life.

There are just too many instances of innocent people being sentenced to death.  We've had several here in Illinois.

The problem is with over-zealous cops needing a confession mostly.. it is a flawed system.

30 If they were not going to fix it they should have left it the hell alone.
Posted by: Vic
..........
I agree..

31 I would be more OK with the death penalty if they did it like they did 100 years ago and hung them in public within 30 days of sentencing.

And all of those "innocents" you hear about are actually guilty as hell.

32 Crushing America's Inventors

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It would make interesting viewing if the candidates actually debate roundtable, equal time per topic, no one getting more/less time or more/less topics, microphone only on when it's one's "turn". Screw the moderators.  Screw the RNC for not already doing this. It's up to the candidates to organize their own debates. (If they want to be televised, contact C-SPAN.) Can you see the MSM failing to show up to record and then broadcast their favorite clips?

/The guys better come ready to shovel her own shit on Bachmann tonight: "Look who's talking."

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This whole LightSquared deal upsets me greatly. Here's the link to the FAA report that Tasker had in one of yesterday's posts. If you haven't read it, you should. It is very disturbing to me that this project has gotten as far as it has when it clearly should be abandoned for many reasons, the biggest one being national security.

It smacks of treason.

http://tinyurl.com/3gxu6fl

35 Stock futures not looking good so far this morning.

36 From the ONT (now that the spambots have arrived):

415 Is this a capital punishment
Has anyone run "capital punishment" as new tax increase slogan by teh JEF?? he could use that on his hate capitalism/Rich tour..
Posted by: beanervt at September 22, 2011 02:17 AM (KZLoo)

"Yes" to capital punishment, "no" to punishment by baby: Barky 2012!

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Imagine this as your neighborhood and this many people coming in regularly and parking all up and down the street in front of your homes. What do the Morons think? Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 06:55 AM (M9Ie6)

I'm this *inch* close to calling parking enforcement to make the cops who moved in in the spring pull their car all the way in their driveway instead of leaving it half over the fucking sidewalk. Constant parties of any kind are unsat.

Also when someone explains to me how two cops can afford a $900 thou house, a mercedes suv, a big nice pickup and an antique harley then I'll worry abt "first responders" and their pensions.

 

38 And all of those "innocents" you hear about are actually guilty as hell.

As a late detective said, "Everyone's guilty, of something."

You're right that "Not Guilty" isn't equivalent to "Innocent". Ask Angela Davis. Why stop at killing the "pigs" when you can take down the judge and bystanders while you're at it.

39 New Hampshire is chock full of Mass-a-two-shits tax exiles. How the F is the Mitt a "favorite son"? New Hampshire is where the savvy Massachusetts drunks buy liquor, beer and smokes.

40 29 One of the guys I grew up with, from down the street, became a sensation in the Police Dept. by solving a practically impossible to solve murder. No physical evidence or witnesses. He got two guys to turn against the other with Psychological Tricks and they both went to the penitentiary for life.
When I confronted him about it he claimed " Everybody's guilty of something." "The guy who murdered this woman is probably in the system some where and we have him on something else."
So the DA, Ronnie Earle and all the prosecution knew these guys were railroaded and had them convicted anyway.
While it turned out to be the case and the discovery of the guilty man eventually freed the wrongly incarcerated, it was a corrupt process and the prosecution conspired and perjured themselves.

It happens all the time. Never say one word to the police if you are questioned or arrested. The majority of the time, the only thing that will convict you is your own statements, twisted into lies.

That is why I cannot support the death penalty and loathe our lawmakers for providing no alternative.

41 Also when someone explains to me how two cops can afford a $900 thou house, a mercedes suv, a big nice pickup and an antique harley then I'll worry abt "first responders" and their pensions.

Remember that commercial with the guy riding the lawn tractor and bragging on all his shit?

Int he end he says "I'm in debt up to my eyeballs".

Of course the cops may be retired in CA as well.

42 How the F is the Mitt a "favorite son"?

He is "somewhat" of a favorite son because there ARE so many MA exiles in NH.

43 Cops and DA like the one in NC who are found to be corrupt and railroad defendants knowing they are innocent should be prosecuted themselves and sent to jail.

That will stop that shit.

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Re the big home bible studies, I can see how that would be a little irksome.  Sounds like maybe they need to have the parking limited to one side of the street or something.  If there's noise, then noise ordinances are usually well enough defined that those can be used. 

But here's my beef with this - I bet there's no consistency applied.  I suspect that if some ethnic minorities were to have a weekly Friday night bash, complete with loud music, public drunkeness, and spinner-equipped cars parked all over peoples' lawns, there would be nothing done about it.  (In part cuz the fuzz don't want to make life harder for themselves)  It's this, not rampant Tupperware parties, that is the right scenario for comparison.  And at least bible studies usually take place in daylight hours, rather than all through the night when decent folk are trying to get some sleep.  Another example is the weekly gathering of extended family for the maximally fecund bunch up the street - where the abundance of cars is supplemented by the abundance of unruly tricicle motors and assorted noisy yard apes.  Does an agent of the state come by to fine the Guadagungalunga family for their noisy soirees?  No matter how loud or long the monotonous undifferentiated dance music blares, I doubt that the cops will show.

The only way to get what you want in this country is to be the scum - the people that the police know will be a nuisance to try to deal with.  Just make it clear that you're not to be messed with, and you can damn well do what you please so long as you don't do anything that costs the government money.

 

45 " Penn, Polanski the stars of Zurich Film Festival " Now there's an All-Star lineup.

46 Vic - You're just plain wrong about them being guilty.. Read up on the Rolando Cruz case here:  http://tinyurl.com/3mutrgs

In 1994 the verdict was overturned again. During the third trial, a sheriff's lieutenant who had provided key evidence at the original trial reversed his testimony and admitted he had lied under oath, DNA tests also eliminated Cruz and his co-defendant, Alejandro Hernandez as the contributors of the semen found at the crime scene and implicated Brian Dugan who had confessed to the crime in 1985.[6] On November 3, 1995, a DuPage County judge acquitted Cruz on the basis of recanted testimony, the DNA evidence, and the lack of any substantiated evidence against Cruz. In December 1995, the charges against Hernandez were dismissed by the State's Attorney

Cops lie.. they force confessions from innocent people.  And yeah, sometimes those convicted are already petty thieves.. But, if we're going to start putting people to death for being a miscreant, I don't want to live in that country.

47 " Gov. Chris Christie: Big fan of the gnocchis at Nick's Cafe 72 " Christie's killing himself with a fork.

48 Cops and DA like the one in NC who are found to be corrupt and railroad defendants knowing they are innocent should be prosecuted themselves and sent to jail.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 07:37 AM (M9Ie6)

 

Amen, and amen.  Any person responsible for the administration of justice who does such things should endure the punishment he wrongly inflicted, or attempted to inflict, on others.  I include the death penalty in this.  If you wrongly try to hang a man, you should suffer the hanging.

Mistakes are one thing - but all too often there's plenty of evidence of serious wrong doing.  That should be punished with ruthless brutality, since it is arguably worse than the original criminal complaint.

49 You're just plain wrong about them being guilty..

No I am not. 99% of the hype you hear from the "operation innocent" project is bullshit.

For every one that may be innocent there 100000+ who are guilty as hell.

50 Stock futures not looking good so far this morning.

I'm looking even worse.

51 Cops and DA like the one in NC who are found to be corrupt and railroad defendants knowing they are innocent should be prosecuted themselves and sent to jail. That will stop that shit.

When pigs fly. Tell that to The Hammer. Ronnie Earle is enjoying his claim to fame in cushy retirement, with his endorsed replacement continuing his DA legacy in Travis County.

When it isn't simply the system but the electorate who are corrupt and railroad defendants knowing they are innocent but wanting them to be convicted out of malice, that shit ain't stopping any time soon. There's only so much systemic corruption that a State's Attorney General is willing to expose; and if there's no smooth way of cleansing, there's no investigation. Especially when the AG campaigns to further his political career and become Senator Cornyn.

52 Posted by: Reactionary at September 22, 2011 07:40 AM (xUM1Q)

But this is Mission Viejo that doesn't tolerate "scum" to hurt property values.

53 Honor and Duty? So we're talking about Republicans here?

54 Vic, Oktoberfest with some cloves stuck in an onion and some whole peppercorns. Even the kids est it.

55 My feeling on the "neighbors" who have bible study meetings with 50 people during the week is that if they have that many people it should be a simple thing for them to pool their money and lease a commercial building with parking somewhere in a buisness district.

That is why communities have zoning laws in the first place.

56 Cops and DA like the one in NC who are found to be corrupt and railroad defendants knowing they are innocent should be prosecuted themselves and sent to jail.

That will stop that shit.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 07:37 AM (M9Ie6)

Nifong was prosecuted and is serving time.  He still has his defenders though; even though the state attorney general took the highly unusual step of declaring the Duke lacrosse players innocent of all the charges, not just "not guilty" with all its wiggle room.

I can understand why some morons might be against the death penalty as giving the state too much power and being subject to abuse.  But that wasn't the case with this piece of shit Troy Davis; that lying cocksucker was surely guilty of murdering that cop and his wife should've given him a fucking throatslash when he told her he was innocent.  And anybody that tries to argue that the existence of the death penalty makes us the same as Stalin's Soviet Union is a fucking idiot.

57 Oktoberfest with some cloves stuck in an onion and some whole peppercorn

Deep-fry the onion?

58 And anybody that tries to argue that the existence of the death penalty makes us the same as Stalin's Soviet Union is a fucking idiot. Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2011 07:57 AM (7dMdC) 52% baby, 52%

59

Who wants cool ranch dipping sauce for their McNuggets?

Oh, oh! I do!

Posted by: Beefy Meatball at September 22, 2011 07:57 AM (bZ8J6)

I thought that might be a link to a nice dipping sauce recipe, dammit.

60 Just as with Minnesota bridge, which they blamed on not enough infrastructure spending, they spent in on the stadium, the one whose roof collapsed last year, their Transportation point person, Tinkenberg (sic) with a perfect sense of Chutzpah, they ran against  Bachman, but all these facts interfere with the meme.

61 Posted by: Robert at September 22, 2011 07:23 AM (4ixH5)
Screw the small inventor, they don't contribute diddley to my campaign--but my lawyer buds and cronies will do just fine with this act.  Understanding the real purpose of legislation is really not that hard, just figure out how it will benefit lawyers and the R & D establishment politicians.  Screwing taxpayers/citizens is a legislative feature, not a bug!

62 But this is Mission Viejo that doesn't tolerate "scum" to hurt property values. Posted by: maverick muse at September 22, 2011 07:52 AM (lpWVn)

 

Ah - I see.  I didn't know what a "Mission Viejo" was.  Their general policy is a good one.  I live in an area that does its best to be that way (with varying levels of success) and I like it.  Admittedly I hate the high property taxes that make it possible, but I doubt any other means would work.  The slum people all want to escape what they help create, but that just means that they spread it like a contagion whenever they leak into the nicer places.  High property taxes, noise/junk ordinances, and good police patrols are the best way to do this without having to endure the tyranny of a homeowners association.

When I was young and starting out I had to endure the near proximity of the welfare class.  I have no warm feelings toward their kind.  Since we're not allowed to do anything to thin the herd, we must at least do what we can to contain it or get away from it.  I don't need their drama in my life.  That's why I support full-on drug legalization, elimination of liquor taxes, and acceptance of birth control injections as a precondition for welfare - let nature take its course and we're all freer and better off.

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What do the Morons think?

You don't have the right to be a nuisance to your neighbors.  They should move their Bible study someplace with more parking.

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@3. Bickering over rescue of Post Office escalates

Big ass damn union, again.  Unions are greedy.  So greedy, all their members are going to be out of a job.  Gravytrain is over, the taxpayers don't have enough money to bail you out.  Let 'em go under.  I'm sure the postal folks will find all kinds of great paying jobs out in the real world.

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For the last few days, I haven't had much time to look at the blog.  I think yesterday was the first day in over a year I didn't even cast an eyeball.

Thank you, Vic, for being so fucking awesome every fucking morning.

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Posted by: BackwardsBoy at September 22, 2011 07:27 AM (d0Tfm)

Man, that is some serious shit!  Hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the info...

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^{You don't have the right to be a nuisance to your neighbors.  They should move their Bible study someplace with more parking.}

As much as I am sympathetic to the effort, you're exactly right.

Try as I might I cannot find the Bible verse where Jesus says, "Suffer the neighbors..."

68 27 Captain Hate,

well Ohio knows what is going on and really who the hell else matters in the equation?

Also I strongly suspect that anything Bambi says is going to be overshadowed by the CR not being passed and its impact on the market.  EUrope had a brief surge as Italy finally got her reward for economic stupidity from S&P but the elephant in the room is that in order to keep the Dow pie tins spinning we are expected to devalue our currency even more.  I think the optics of the Jugeared Clown going on about how he and only he understands recovery while the Dow is faceplanting until he pays the investmnet banks more dane'sgeld will be telling.

The House not funding the government and playing Russian roulette with soldier and granny pay is gonna be played up as "GOP unreasonableness" so it may wind up being a wash.

69

Fox now bragging that they added Gary Johnson to the debate. Another fringe candidate to suck time.

Who the heck is Gary Johnson?

70 how about rotating meetings? this week we are at the smiths, next week we are the the jones......

71 Who the heck is Gary Johnson?

Former gov of NM and a Libertarian. So far he has almost zero support.

72 we.=..at...wtf?

73 "neighbors" who have bible study meetings with 50 people during the week

Our neighborhood bible study group does round robin allowing each participant to play host from week to week, and usually only during the summer. They post an attractive little sign in the yard where the meeting will be that day. Most people walk, but there are some extra parked cars on the street. I'm glad to see that they're so well organized, and that the neighborhood isn't going to shit with kids gangs.

Given so many churches about, it's extraordinary that this Mission Viejo group doesn't arrange for one to host them in an ecumenical outreach with the community. The host has been pressing the issue in a popularity contest of sorts, in bad form.

74 how about rotating meetings? this week we are at the smiths, next week we are the the jones......

If they did that enough to maybe only have one meeting a month in the residential areas that may be ok, but even that would get old after a while.

I still say the best solution is to lease a commercial building. If they don't have the money for that then find a member of the group who lives in the country (non-residential) on a large lot that will handle all the parking.

75 Vic, no just drop it in the pot, browned the meat in salt, oil, and garlic first.

76 My feeling on the "neighbors" who have bible study meetings with 50 people during the week is that if they have that many people it should be a simple thing for them to pool their money and lease a commercial building with parking somewhere in a buisness district.

I wonder why they don't use the church basement. Round these parts the meeting room at the local library can be had for a nominal fee. Being a considerate neighbor goes with the study territory, doesn't it?

77 Morning all, Just wanted to thank you all for the helpful resources re: Troy Davis last night. It really helped me with my arguments on Facebook and twitter. ------ Looking forward to watching the debate, too bad I will miss the liveblogging...

78 66 Case,

well standing at the counter or slowly making the rounds means they can either work at the DMV or deliver pizza for Pizza Hut.

"RECOVERY!"

You know my son asked about the history of the Post Office and whether or not door to door delivery was always there, so I researched it a bit.

1896 was the magic year, prior to that you had to go to the general store or a small cubicle in city hall or the equivalent.  Frankly you could deliver the mail by charging people for delivery confirmation and making a one day a week rotating delivery per town for non direct mail.  I am sick and tired of our society paying the price for unions and politicians not wanting to see things "change".

Make a working model or be part of the argument about why PEUs suck ass.

79 The solution: webcams and video conferencing or add beer and bbq, then invite the neighbors

80

 if they have that many people it should be a simple thing for them to pool their money and lease a commercial building with parking somewhere in a buisness district.

Yeah, like in that abandoned Post Office Building...

81 ....the bracelets are very nice.....i don't begrudge people for what they spend THEIR money on....now if stimulus money was used ......that's a different story.....or tax dollars somehow went to purchase them.....i have problem...... what an awkward kiss though....do they know each other?

82 50 cars? That's a lot of cars. Once my homelife is forced to change because of your activity, that's not right. I do not have problems here on redneck wisteria lane because we as neighbors give a shit about each other. If there is a problem, neighbors get together and discuss it, rationally. Last year we had neighbors with 4 constantly barking dogs. It was explained to them that if they valued the dogs they should silence them. They moved away. Clear concise communications and mutual respect is the conerstones of living together n peace and harmony.

83 Round these parts the meeting room at the local library can be had for a nominal fee.

Same here but if they are having 2 meetings a week that would run more than renting their own building probably.

84

I still say the best solution is to lease a commercial building. If they don't have the money for that then find a member of the group who lives in the country (non-residential) on a large lot that will handle all the parking.

Many people prefer the homey atmosphere of being in someone's home.  They could split up into 2 or more groups.  That's kind of the idea of "small" groups and one of the ways they grow.

85 I would almost bet they are praying nekkid with fancy oils and jellies.

86 77 vic i was thinking more like out of 50 people, if 25 could host a meeting you'd only irritate your neighbors twice a year......

87 the bracelets are very nice.....i don't begrudge people for what they spend THEIR money on.

I don't mind them spending their own money on baubles like that either. What I found "ironic" is that in the past the press has lambasted Presidents for displays of ostentation during hard times, particularly Republicans. Now we hear nothing. 

88 Issa endorses Mittens

89 Afro checked for weapons at Hartsfield-Jackson By Christopher Seward The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Bags, yes. Pockets, sure. Shoes, OK. But afros? Hairstylist Isis Brantley of Dallas said she can’t believe she was chased down this week at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport so that her afro-styled hair could be checked for weapons. The 53-year-old woman told KXAS-TV in Texas that she was halfway to her gate to catch an American Airlines flight to Dallas when she started hearing shouts. "‘Hey you! Hey you! Ma'am! Ma’am! Stop! Stop! The lady with the hair! You!" Brantley told the station.

90 You would think there would be alot of empty mainline church space in Cali that is begging for use, are they espousing some whacky view that keeps them out (being Cali)

91 91, Didn't they want to Tar and Feather Nancy Reagan over some China?

92 Afro checked for weapons at Hartsfield-Jackson Unattractive and lethal, who knew?

93 Re the home bible study-I had one in Jordan to which 80 women came-they were Christians married to Muslims, and this was their only means of worship-going to a "Ladies' Coffee." We worked it out by having people park far from the house, and one van owner shuttling people to the house. It wasn't easy, but we managed. Unfortunately, that house church has not shown a very good witness for Christ, if they are causing problems for their neighbors. Getting belligerent about things like that doesn't win folks to the flock. They probably should break it up into smaller groups, or rent a venue-a school, rooms from another church or a movie theater.

94 First I'm not an attorney and only know what I've recently read regarding the Davis case. But at least in TX, if in the commission of a felony (i.e., I believe they were involved in aggravated assault), a capital office occurs, all parties to the offense can be charged with the capital offense. Don't mess with TX.

95 I don't mind them spending their own money on baubles like that either. What I found "ironic" is that in the past the press has lambasted Presidents for displays of ostentation during hard times, particularly Republicans.

The press doesn't even wait for hard times or ostentation when it concerns Republicans. Remember Sarah Palin's wardrobe stories, or McCain's wife's clothes and jewelry stories?

96 Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 08:20 AM (M9Ie6)

Pat Nixon wore a cloth coat!

It is ostentatious, and insulting to the millions of Americans who are out of work because of her husband's lack of understanding of the most basic concepts of economics, and his desire to drive this great country into the dustbin of history.

The president and his wife are in some ways a reflection of the country. He and his wife reject this because they have contempt for the people of America.

97 91 vic yep......bush would take a working vacation at his OWN HOME and the press would complain that he was on vacation.... scoamf goes on his umpteenth elitist vacation and crickets......

98 Re the home bible study-I had one in Jordan to which 80 women came-they were Christians married to Muslims,

Wasn't that dangerous?

99 Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 22, 2011 08:20 AM (eOXTH)

I have neighbors whose very existence irritates me.

Any suggestions?

100 Any suggestions?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 22, 2011 08:26 AM (LH6ir)

Move, or get them to move.

101

I have neighbors whose very existence irritates me.

Any suggestions?

Build a tall fence.  Or move.

102 102-Yes Vic, it was. But we changed locations every six months, so that was the length of time at any one place. Some risks are worth it, though. I made some precious friends through that group of ladies. And I believe that they were able to do some good in the community as well. So, yeah, completely worth it.

103 Ugh, off for my colonoscopy. Spare prayers would be hugely appreciated my way. Have a great day 'ron's and 'rettes.

104 Prayers for you Moki and God bless.

105 107, Good luck.

106 Unemployment just went up.

107 I was thinking years ago about  setting up a website 'badneighbor.com' -- then I found out someone already snatched the url.

I used to love a website called bitter waitress dot com. They posted gripes from different restaurant/bar folks all over the country for cheap low tippers and stupid people who did shit like change baby diapers at a table.

But someone sued them and they now have limited the comments.

108 Have a great day 'ron's and 'rettes.

Posted by: moki at September 22, 2011 08:32 AM (dZmFh)

This is a good procedure to have done--good on ya' for doing it!

Prayers that all will be well.

109 Oops Moki--sorry for the sock.

110 111 Unemployment just went up. Was there another possible direction for it?

111 Guess there is hope for congressional integrity after all.
http://tinyurl.com/rangel-award

112 From Drudge:  "Police in the St. Louis suburb of University City say a suspect in a string of burglaries was caught after a homeowner reported finding him frying bacon in her kitchen."

Anybody want to fess up?  Hmmmmmmmmm.

113 Ugh we have to get romney. I wish ace would go after that fucker

114 "‘Hey you! Hey you! Ma'am! Ma’am! Stop! Stop! The lady with the hair! You!" Brantley told the station.

Posted by: Pecos Bill at September 22, 2011 08:21 AM (j84s0)

Smack anyone who lays a hand on me! Particularly security police. Cameras! Action!

115 99 I don't mind them spending their own money on baubles like that either. What I found "ironic" is that in the past the press has lambasted Presidents for displays of ostentation during hard times, particularly Republicans.

The press doesn't even wait for hard times or ostentation when it concerns Republicans. Remember Sarah Palin's wardrobe stories, or McCain's wife's clothes and jewelry stories?

Posted by: Retread at September 22, 2011 08:25 AM (BO5ap)

I thought we were all supposed to still be scandalized because Newt bought some jewelry at Tiffany's.

The left insists that the right has to be totally sexually pristine or it's "hypocrisy" and the left doesn't because they like to be skanks and say so. I want to know why the right can't have jewelry and the left can? How is that hypocritical.

Quick, some moron get drunk and high, spin around in a circle and get a degenerative brain disease long enough to think like a liberal and answer my question!

116

Thoughts and prayers for you, moki.

Yes, just think of us while it's happening.

I mean, think of our support, not us specifically.

Umm...think of England, but know we're with you.

Not with you, but...

 

Ah, good luck.

117 Why are Flake and Issa endorsing Romney???

118 Quick, some moron get drunk and high, spin around in a circle and get a degenerative brain disease long enough to think like a liberal and answer my question! Sorry Hon, that would only get me to Moderate Republican.

119 moki

If your surgeon shows up late from surgery, do yourself a favor in the long run and reschedule. Yeah, fasting's a bitch, but no negative side effects.

120

Quick, some moron get drunk and high, spin around in a circle and get a degenerative brain disease long enough to think like a liberal and answer my question!

But She has enough money of her own that she earned by getting a very well paid job coincidentally when he became a State Senator and Newt had a credit account, so that's completely different.

Clearly he's evil and she has good taste.

121 Quick, some moron get drunk and high, spin around in a circle and get a degenerative brain disease long enough to think like a liberal and answer my question!

The answer is Shut Up!, that's why. Lefties are simple, after all.

122

I used to support cops. My son was picked up and there was my beer in the car because his car hadn't started and I hadn't unloaded mine. BTW, never take a roadside sobriety test---no one passes. Anyway after all the lies and threats, this little extravaganza will cost me about $7000. Oh, and if you didn't know, white kids/parents PAY and end up the victim of more lies because they know they will pay. I'm now not so supportive.

123 Joffen, politics as usual.

They're setting the precedent for others to fall in line with the establishment's fore-ordained candidate.

It goes to show what an "endorsement" really means: what you're told to believe.

124 I want to know why the right can't have jewelry and the left can?

It only matters if you care what bigots say.

125 Nice "Obama's No Job Zone" billboard at Legal Insurrection.

126 That kiss on Drudge is really creepy. What is it about it that is so wrong? Is it that they look so alike? Same height? Gay/Straight? Mooschelle is unkissable? What?

127 "Obama's No Job Zone" billboard

Made in America

128 When does fat fuck Alec Baldwin join his cop killing bud Troy feeding the worms?

129

 BTW, never take a roadside sobriety test---no one passes.

That true?

130 Hmmm, I just noticed something. My hash has changed. That's weird.

131 From what I have seen, if you have actually been drinking don't take any test. You may have your license lifted for 6 months in some States (like here) but you stand a better chance of beating the charge in court.  And yes, you need to go to court.

In this State you will get off easier for armed robbery of the liquor store than buying something there and drinking it.

Thank you MADD scrunts.

132 135, I passed one, complete with an open container.

133

135 Yeah, the lawyer said that no one passes. They didn't offer the breathalyzer until he was done with roadside and he thought he had passed because he wasn't drinking---they will stand you on a slope, yell at you, etc and do it over and over and over until you "fail" in the "opinion of the officer". Lawyer said never ever ever take one. Demand a breathalyzer and demand it at police headquarters which is your right. They will then get rough with you but they won't have "failed sobriety test".

Son's blood and breathalyer came back negative. Still got a reckless because of roadside sobriety "fail" "in the opinion of the officer". Still have to take all the classes and pay all the fines but no dwi on the record.

134 I passed one, complete with an open container.

Open container here is now good for $300 first offense regardless of "sobriety".

135 Pope to speak in Berlin...gasp: where Hitler once was.

pathetic headline

136 140, Did you ever hear of a Prayer for Judgement?

137 Prayer for Judgement??????

138 dagny like they don't want to actually touch each other....

139 138 135, I passed one, complete with an open container.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 22, 2011 09:00 AM (ZDUD4)

What year? MADD has completely taken  over the court process. In some counties before a court can dismiss a dui/dwi they have to run it by MADD. MADD runs the classes that you have to pay for and then MADD owns a PAC that elects the next congressman/governor/mayor etc. The MADD bitches are fucking nazis.

140 Barack Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

The clash is over having multiple meetings with 50 participants in a residential zoned neighborhood.

Agree: 50+ people is no longer a "home Bible study" it is "Home Church" or beyond.  It's one thing to exercise your religious freedom- it's something else again to make it so no one else on the block can have company over on whatever night of the week.

Christians- if we want to fix the perception that we're all holier-than-thou pricks, it helps if we stop being pricks.

141 144 dagny

like they don't want to actually touch each other....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 22, 2011 09:03 AM (eOXTH)

Would that be how you would kiss your ghey husband? I don't know but it's weird.

142 The MADD bitches are fucking nazis.

You got that right. When they first started they may have had a legitimate beef but now they have gone completely insane. They want nothing short of the return to prohibition now.

143 145, Yep, here in North Carolina, if it is a first offense you have the option of a Prayer for Judgement. You neither plead Guilty or innocent and pay court costs. After three years your offense is removed from your record. You get one every three years. Bad part is if you are charged with a like offense before those three years are up, you get charged with the first one too.

144 Hmmm, I just noticed something. My hash has changed. That's weird.

Posted by: HH at September 22, 2011 08:58 AM (HFnqj)

Curious is soooooo jealous!

145 145, 2010

146 Elizabeth Warren can go suck a fart out of Troy Davis' dead ass. I have relatives who survived Ms. Warren's fellow leftists in Nazi Germany and came here - legally, after 4 years in Displaced Persons' camps - with literally the clothes on their backs. They worked their asses off at a Brighton Beach fruit store and after 20 years were able to buy the store and then open another one. They had no "help" from anyone else. And the typical meme of "well, they hired people and paid them minimum wage" does not cut it. FUCK YOU ELIZABETH WARREN.

147 Never heard of that one. I did see a guy plead "no lo contendre" in CA once. Didn't do him any good.

148 Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2011 09:01 AM (8dSCX)

Texas police officers draw blood. It's hard enough to trust even nurses to do that reliably.

149 Police draw blood in TX???? WOW, that opens the county/State up to some powerful legal liability. If you request a blood test here they have to take you to the hospital.

You also have to pay for it.

150 Monty doom up.

151 My moms cousin her husband and two out of three of there kids were killed by a drunk driver in a head on. I sort of get the MADD moms. However, when zealots control anything you can count on it being out of control.

152 Thank you MADD scrunts.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 09:00 AM (M9Ie6)

Couldn't agree more!

I am a member of DAMM

Drunks Against Mad Mothers

153 You got that right. When they first started they may have had a legitimate beef but now they have gone completely insane.

I'm not so sure they had a good approach even in the early years. I worked for a small business whose owner agreed to donate $100 to their 'party after the prom' scam. Why didn't the parents organize and pay for the party themselves? The nag from MADD who came to pick up the check didn't have an answer.

154 tami shhhhhhhhh! 4days!..........

155

Curious is soooooo jealous!

Be that as it may, why would that happen?

(Oh, and I can post using another hash, but in this case, no).

156
shhhhhhhhh! 4days!..........

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 22, 2011 09:14 AM (eOXTH)

It was on the Ann Coulter thread last night.

157 Posted by: HH at September 22, 2011 09:15 AM (HFnqj)

Have you been drinking?

You are banned!

158 Here in Ahia the sobriety checks seem to be on the up and up.  A bud of mine got stopped one night at a checkpoint after he'd been at a bar with me and drank a few but wasn't hammered in any way.  He passed the breathalizer but it was close enough that the cop yelled at him anyway and bitched out another stone cold sober guy for not driving for him; which beats having your license pulled.

159

It was on the Ann Coulter fat thighs thread last night.

Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2011 09:16 AM (X6akg)

FIFY

160

Be that as it may, why would that happen?

(Oh, and I can post using another hash, but in this case, no).

Posted by: HH at September 22, 2011 09:15 AM (HFnqj)

I don't know...but it happened to me in June.  Not sure if my service provider changed my IP or Pixy did something.

161 tami ugh........

162

I denounce my handsomeness ...

 

 

163 Have you been drinking?

Well, I DO work nights...

164

It was on the Ann Coulter fat thighs thread last night.

Posted by: Tami at September 22, 2011 09:16 AM (X6akg)

FIFY

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative) at September 22, 2011 09:18 AM (LH6ir)

;o~

165 What do the Morons think?

Think.  Ha, I sit atop my pile of ill-gotten gains relishing the suffering of the masses while toxins leach from my soul!

166 152

"Families are ready for change. According to polls, large majorities of Americans have welcomed the Obama Administration's proposal for a new Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA)." AMERICA WITHOUT A MIDDLE CLASS Posted: December 3, 2009 By Elizabeth Warren, Chair of the Congressional Oversight Panel created to oversee the banking bailouts

What have Mitt and Rick to say of CFPA, and given the opportunity, what would either actually enact themselves?

167 Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2011 09:11 AM (M9Ie6)

Gov. Rick Perry didn't contest the protocol.

168 My hash changes all the time. I think I know why--.

169 What do the Morons think?

aa.org - meetings galore, church basements, clubs in commercial rentals, benches in parks, etc.  If you're annoying the neighbors you're doing it wrong.

170 Would that be how you would kiss your ghey husband? I don't know but it's weird. Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2011 09:05 AM (8dSCX) He looks more natural bowing to foreign dignitaries than embracing his wife. Odd, that.

171

He looks more natural bowing to foreign dignitaries than embracing his wife. Odd, that.

What's the male version of a beard?

172 Gov. Rick Perry didn't contest the protocol.

Yes, everything that people don't like in TX is automatically Rick Perry's fault. But hey, your man Ron Paul is a TX congressman. Did he protest it?

173

Posted by: dagny at September 22, 2011 09:29 AM (8dSCX)

Oh well. I'm still the same Moron...(and where did that emoticom come from)?

 

174

MADD is just another collection of do-gooders, for whom there is never enough nosing into other peoples' business "for their own good."  First the legal limit was 0.1, which was probably too cautious for a free society.  Then they had to cut it to 0.08.  No doubt they will soon restrict it again, and probably push for every damn car in the US to have a built in breathalizer linked to the ignition. 

Yet another one of the baleful curses inflicted on the US by ill-advised expansion of the voting suffrage.

When I visited the Dominican Republic you could drive around with a drink in your hand and lift it to the police in salute while driving by.  The key issue - don't get in an f-ing accident!  If you get in a car accident you're sorta screwed no matter who's "fault" it is.  So be careful and don't act like an idiot.  Those should be words to live by no matter where you live.  Along with the general policy of shutting up and minding your own business.

175 Good to see Issa endorse Romney.  There is an article about it on Hot Air and some of the comments from the Perry-Krishnas are absolutely vile, but that's not exactly surprising.

176 They have that BS here as well about you are automatically at fault if driving above 0.05.  However, unless the accused folds they have to wash it past a jury.

And anyone who doesn't take it to a jury if an injury is involved is insane. I had a friend who had a few beers at the golf course and was driving home. When in town only a few blocks from his house an elderly woman stepped out between two parked cars  directly in front of him. There was absolutely nothing he could do.

He was charged with felony dui with a death. That was good for 25 years. It cost him a shit pile of money but the jury let him go.

The sad thing about it was by the actual law he was guilty and the jury engaged in "jury nullification".

177 Just read over at HA that Half Governor Palin may run Third Party.  This is exactly what I was saying would happen when Governor Perry announced and took the wind out of her sails.  Fools started clamoring around the Golden Calf  that is the 1/2 Governor of Alaska because she got the shit end of the stick in '08.  If we get another four years of Toonces because we let ego's and idol worship cloud our judgement, then we deserve another four years of him.  So many have chosen to overlook the real enemy and attack our own because of a couple flakey broads playing the victim card.  The funny thing is that I thought our side was smarter than that.  It's the left that's supposed to fawn and for the poor me victimhood crap.  I just saw a picture of half governor Palin that accompanied that article and the smarmy look on her face made my skin crawl.  I have more respect for Lisa Ann than this flake because she at least doesn't try to portray herself  as the savior anything, she knows what she is and makes no apoligies for it.  A  porn actress has more intergrity than this twit.  St. Sarah is a phony and if  this idiot is supposed to be so fucking brillaint then she would know that a third party run is a guaranteed win for Obama in '12.  Her freaky cultlike supporters are just as phony as she is,  in their feax patriotism.

178 Yeah about once every 6 months someone takes out that "Palin will run as a 3rd Party candidate" turd and flings it out there.

It was shit the first time and it is shit now. I am no Palinbot and I do believe she is becoming irritating, but BS is still BS.

179 Qari Tahir, slowly turn on a spit in Hell. Sizzle and feel the meat being torn from your murduring bones, today and forever. Welcome to the reward room that is reserved for those who twist religion into a weapon.

180 @1  Imagine this as your neighborhood and this many people coming in regularly and parking all up and down the street in front of your homes.  What do the Morons think?
--------
Good morning, Vic!  I'm late to the party, but glad to see you on your toes this morning.

I have to laugh about this parking thing.  That's the situation here.  The families are so friggin' large and now with the economy you even have adult/married children back at home that many of the streets look like valet parking lots.  We live on a straight street but are directly opposite the opening to a small (five houses) cul-de-sac.  Each weekday morning we watch the cars leave and then watch them return at night, but by far the best are Sundays when the extended families are going to church and having dinner (except "fast" Sundays).  It's amazing! 

I am so glad we do not live on a cul-de-sac.  As it stands now we still have folks parking in front of our mailbox, but so far no driveway blocking. 

Anyway, I grew up in a "planned community" where you had to get permission from your neighbors to paint your house or put up a fence or the rest of it.  It wasn't a fancy neighborhood, simply trying to avoid sprawl that is so common in DC-metro.  So I am used to the idea and actually prefer it to being stuck living next to someone with junked cars in their yard or basketball hoops in the front or farm lights or whatever. 

My feeling is that if you have the resources to have enough property to create a barrier between what you're doing and what I can see, that's fine.  But in most suburban and urban situations, that's simply not the case and we need to put some explicit boundaries on each other out of the gate.  People tend to be selfish and inconsiderate (she types while listening to the neighbors' beagle howl) so these sorts of regulations are needed imho. 

181 You're right, while zoning laws can and do get abused often, they do serve a worthwhile purpose.

BTW, someone picked this back up on the Doom thread and it is going there now as well.

182 @192
Good fences make good neighbors. 


What is with people and their pets, anyway?  We did not have a problem in Massachusetts or Indiana or Houston, but in both SoCal and now here people do not seem interested in interacting with their dogs, walking them or attending to them.  They are simply left out all the time.  And around here they are also often off-leash.  It's crazy.   As soon as I can afford it I am fencing my front yard so they stop crapping on my lawn. 

183 They do the same thing here.

184 Google the address and check it out on google maps. It is a cul de sac at the end of a short street. These people have big bucks and they could afford to meet elsewhere.

185 HP hired Meg.  Bob Saget recommends buying puts.

186 FTL sub-atomic particle documented by CERN - Einstein and .. well, just Einstein hardest hit. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15017484

187 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

188 I thought the SCOAMF was going to ask for the knife. Please. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/22/obama_im_a_class_warrior.html

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