1

From the ONT because it just pissed me off

 

this just in "Lying skank gets away with trying to hide 14 thousand votes in the WI recallelections'.http://tinyurl.com/4yaru5q

Posted by: sonnyspats at September 29, 2011 04:40 AM (I/MzF)

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A county clerk likely violated the law when she failed to report thousands of votes in this spring's tightly contested Wisconsin Supreme Court election, but her conduct wasn't criminal, state investigators said Wednesday.

 

This is why this shit happens. When elections are subverted people need to go to jail.  We complain about election fraud all the time but prosecutions almost never happen and when they do the outcome is always “ho-hum”.

2

New Fox news poll

 

I know ace posted on this yesterday but I wanted people to keep this in mind when reading that article:

 

Democrats (n = 382) ± 5% Republicans (n = 33 ± 5.5% Independents (n = 189) ± 7% GOP Primary Voters (n = 363) ± 5% Dem Primary Voters (n = 356)

 

Romney 23%

Perry 19%

Cain 17%

Newt 11%

Paul 6%

Huntsman 4%

Bachman 3%

Santorum 3%

 

First it is a news poll and second why did they poll more Dems than Repubs for a Repub primary and then count them. Sure, frakin Dems like Romney, so does Fox.

3

Perry walks back "heartless" comment

“I was probably a bit over-passionate by using that word and it was inappropriate,” Perry said in a interview with Newsmax. “In Texas in 2001 we had 181 members of the legislature — only four voted against this piece of legislation — because it wasn’t about immigration it was about education.”

But Perry stood by his argument that building a fence along the entire Mexican border was unwise. The Texas governor said that the fence would likely be expensive, ineffective and violate the property rights of those who owned land on the border.

I like this inserted “but” BS.  Yes the fence is BS and nothing “The Hill” can say makes it any better. Besides that, when did the damn Hill start supporting the fence?  2000 mile fence = $1.4T dollars, cheap wood ladder = $50

 

Hey are all you concern trolls that said you switched to Romney over that comment going to switch back now? No, yeah, I didnÂ’t think so.

4

No, stupid suspend elections comment was not a joke or a "misspeak

 

Stupid scrunt was serious. She needs to be impeached.

5

The Hill reports on Solyndra!

 

GOP's Solyndra probe threatens to ensnare Energy Secretary Chu

 

Gee GOP is hot after Chu!

The controversy over a $535 million loan guarantee to the now-bankrupt California solar firm Solyndra is threatening to dim the star of Energy Secretary Steven Chu, a physicist and Nobel Prize winner who has rarely been thrust into the political spotlight.  

Republican lawmakers have set their sites on Chu, who for three years has managed to avoid being dragged into a litany of political battles waged by Republicans and the White House on energy and environmental issues.  

I have a better headline for The Hill.  Dems and their PR rags throw Chu under the bus trying to save Obama from this case of fraud.  Another case of I did not have sex with that woman while jizz shows up on her dress.

6

Cain finds paulbots annoying - gee

7

Gee, Greta breaking with the Fox mold and pushing Chris Christie “we need moderate a Republican from a blue State who can work with Democrats”.

 

Fuck you bitch

8

Obama is a Stuttering Clusterfuck of a Miserable Failure.

Seriously.  Typing that NEVER gets old, and it never fails to make me smile.

I'm pleased to see the Germans finally bailing on Obama.  Or at least calling him out for his arrogance and condescension.  And seriously... when the EUROPEANS are calling you arrogant, you know you've pushed it too far.

9

The primary wars are on again this year

 

Recall in 2008 the same thing happened and the RNC “punished” States who moved their primaries by removing half their delegates. If SC moves theirs what are they going to do? They have already made the SC primary virtually irrelevant for anything but a PR gambit.

10

Obamanites get setback in AL immigration law ruling

 

Gee what a difference not being in the 9^th circuit means.

11

Men like Rick; women like Mitt????

12

Just for you CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)

 

A guy from NJ wises up.

13

Democrat governors from NC are not the only ones calling for a dictatorship

 

How about Obamanite policy wonks.

14

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — A county clerk likely violated the law when she failed to report thousands of votes in this spring's tightly contested Wisconsin Supreme Court election, but her conduct wasn't criminal, state investigators said Wednesday.

 

This is why this shit happens. When elections are subverted people need to go to jail.  We complain about election fraud all the time but prosecutions almost never happen and when they do the outcome is always “ho-hum”.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

Vic, this is the clerk from the heavily Republican county that put the conservative Prosser over the top. She made a mistake in totaling the votes on election night, the only thing she did wrong was make the donks think they didn't need to cheat too hard. She only broke a law if it was intentional, and the democrat on the election board said it was an honest mistake.

15 Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:08 AM

Fortunately for what's left of my good mood this morning, NR only shows the full article to subscribers. I ain't one, ain't gonna be one.

Any asshole who works for -- or buys the treasonous rap of -- the stuttering clusterf*** of a miserable failure has nothing worthwhile to say to me. All I want to hear is the sound of a cell door slammin' shut on each and every one of them.

16

The exposure of the true goals of the leftards, as evidenced by Orszag and Perdue, are merely the extension of a basic psychological flaw that has plagued mankind from the beginning, namely the desire to control others.

We cannot survive as a nation if we can't discover these people and keep them out of office. Power attracts them, like flies to a dung heap, and the Democrat Party is the biggest heap of them all.

17

Also, Obama is a stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

That is all. We now return you to your regularly scheduled program.

18 Here's one for ya, Vic, snitched from Drudge:

http://bit.ly/o4UEs4

I'm really starting to like Herman Cain. Apparently, the commenters on the CNN blog disagree with me...I denounce myself for being racist, just for them.

19 Posted by: mugiwara at September 29, 2011 07:09 AM (KI/Ch)

OK

20

Apparently, the commenters on the CNN blog disagree with me...I denounce myself for being racist, just for them.

Heh, I read that too. Cain's correct. While I'm on the subject of psychology, you'd be surprised to find out just how easy it is to brainwash someone. Endless repetition of a phrase, coupled with emotional arousal (and not the good kind like we Morons get when we see pictures of cute cheerleaders or boobehs) is all it takes.

Lots of concentrated, industrial strength stoopid in those comments.

21 So, judging from that poll composition and their on-air reporting, I gather FOX's strategy is to undermine Perry using Cain, but then later turn on Cain saying, "yeah, he brought some energy to the campaign but you know, he's just not ready yet," but hey! lookie here, you know who hasn't been savaged and is ready now, why it's Mitt Romney !!1!

Fair and balanced and unafraid.  We report, you decide.

22 Posted by: MrScribbler at September 29, 2011 07:18 AM (YjjrR)

Commenters there demonstrate some industrial strength stupid.

23 #7  NO ONE can work with the democrats!  Why they think that Christie has that magic power,  I do not know.

Washington democrats have demonstrated that they will NOT work with ANY Republican president. They threw roadblocks in President Reagan's way and got him to raise taxes by LYING about cutting spending.  They attacked GHWB and attempted to block a Supreme Court nomination with baseless character attacks. They conducted an 8-year character assassination of Bush 43  during a damn war!!

Yet Christie is supposedly going to waltz in and magically be able to get them to work with him on solving the nation's problems.

This demonstrates that the east coast elite think they are smarter and more skillful than we hicks in the South and the Midwest.  I personally think they are also naive.

24 Lots of concentrated, industrial strength stoopid in those comments.

LOL, thinking alike

25 Fundemental axiom: You have to cover a barrier (fence, minefield, etc.) with observation and fire. The DHS conops is doomed (no kitten either).

26 Obama is ahead in polls according to Fox and CNN? Cain vs Obama?

27 Perry seems to be even more pro illegal than Obama. Cheap labor.

28 Greta pushing that leftist propaganda that "good" food is too expensive.

I repeat, f*k you scrunt.

29 This demonstrates that the east coast elite think they are smarter and more skillful than we hicks in the South and the Midwest.  I personally think they are also naive.
Posted by: Miss Marple at September 29, 2011 07:28 AM

Yup.

Maybe Christie and Palin will enter the race simultaneously. That would make Ann "fat dudes are sooo cuddly" Coulter quiver with jealousy. Wonder if that's what Michelle Malkin wants, too?

Skinny wimmins and lard-O dudes. What do they mean?

30 >>First it is a news poll and second why did they poll more Dems than Repubs for a Repub primary and then count them. Sure, frakin Dems like Romney, so does Fox.<<

@#2 I think you just answered your own question about the poll. Fox News is drifting further left every single day (and I never thought they were conservative in the first place...just barely, kinda sorta neutral).

31

LOL, thinking alike

The Moron Hive-Mind at work.

OK, y'all, I'm off. And I'm leaving, too. This is my Friday at my little part-time, poor paying, no-benefits job.

At least tonight, I get to whomp on my drums for a while in between Guinnii.

Y'all have fun today. I'll be here in spirit, if not electron.

32 Perry seems to be even more pro illegal than Obama. Cheap labor.

Posted by: Luke@yahoo.com at September 29, 2011 07:32 AM (t4YF+)

Yes thank you lying troll, come back next year when you are shit on and your paymaster is broke. 

33 I worked for the state of NJ. Out on a disability pension.  Paymaster..that sounds so 19th century.

34 From that link:

A woman who translates for the Hispanic population in Foley told FOX10 since the law was brought up, the community has been in fear.

"These families live in fear day by day, every time they leave their house,” she said.

Waaaaaa, I am so touched.

35 Yea..some states treat illegals better than others. We need to crack down on illegals.

36

"We donÂ’t allow faster than light neutrinos in here" said the bartender. A neutrino walks into a bar.

37

Recall in 2008 the same thing happened and the RNC “punished” States who moved their primaries by removing half their delegates. If SC moves theirs what are they going to do? They have already made the SC primary virtually irrelevant for anything but a PR gambit.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:06 AM (M9Ie6)

Fuck the RNC.  Those bumfuck states of Iowa and New Hampshire have to go to the end of the fucking line.  To hell with their state constitutions saying they get to be first; if Reonce Priebus had a hair on his ass, he's wipe it with the Iowa constitution.  I'm tired of those worthless cocksuckers getting to set the fucking pace in the primaries so that by the time the rest of the country votes it's a done deal.  The pukes in both parties are happy with this garbage while the rest of us say fuck this shit.

38 I take it that Atlanta choked their way out of the post-season last night.

39 #39  I think the thing that makes me the maddest about it is how the New Hampshire people EXPECT personal contact with candidates while the rest of us in larger states get to hope we get a glimpse of a candidate once in the entire campaign.

And they are snotty about it,  too.

40 Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:08 AM (M9Ie6)

Did you read the comments? Most of the lefties at TNR think suspending Democracy is a swell idea.

41 F&F has a slug on there now pushing the federal dream act.

Fk Fox.

42 Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

This is what I don't understand.  All the dems and all the media AND the RNC seem to be anointing Romney.  It doesn't make sense that supposedly opposing factors should all be on the same side.

43 Nancy Bloomers Asks UN to Step In and Micromanage American Diets.

“To halt the worldwide epidemic of non-communicable diseases, governments at all levels must make healthy solutions the default social option. That is ultimately government’s highest duty.”

“Collaboration across borders among national and local governments and agencies is also critical. The challenges before us are too vast and complex for individual governments to overcome alone,” Bloomberg later added.

44 2, Thanks Vic for that poll breakdown. That's how you know exactly what you are looking at. Nice job.

45 Most of the lefties at TNR think suspending Democracy is a swell idea.

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at September 29, 2011 07:53 AM (PLvLS)

What do you expect from a publication that hired Henry Wallace as an editor after he was too commie even for FDR?

46 What an asshole. He says conservatives oppose the dream act but they will still vote for Republicans if Republicans would push "immigration reform" (otherwise known as amnesty)

Recall 2005/2006, ox was all for amnesty and McCain-Kennedy. They haven't changed.

47 All the dems and all the media AND the RNC seem to be anointing Romney.  It doesn't make sense that supposedly opposing factors should all be on the same side.

1. The Dems and the MFM want Romney to be nominated so they can destroy him by running "Crazy Mormon" crap non-stop in the general election; thus help re-elect the SCOAMF and getting revenge on the LDS Church for supporting Prop 8.

2. The Republican Establishment likes Romney because polls say a generic Republican can beat the SCOAMF, and there's no Republican more generic than Romney.

48 And they are snotty about it,  too.

The only thing good coming out of NH is The Old Farmer's Almanac.

49 50 What an asshole. He says conservatives oppose the dream act but they will still vote for Republicans if Republicans would push "immigration reform" (otherwise known as amnesty)

Vic, immigration reform is not the same as amnesty.  Immigration is really fucking fucked up in this country, even the legal kind.  If it wasn't so hard to get a visa to get into this country legally, we wouldn't have such a problem with illegals.

50 2. The Republican Establishment likes Romney because polls say a generic Republican can beat the SCOAMF, and there's no Republican more generic than Romney.

Well they like him because he's not a conservative too.  Unlike the quislings that spout the nonsense that Reagan would be considered a RINO, Reagan was opposed by the same party operatives who are shilling for Romney and shackled him with that asshole Poppy Bush to appeal to the squishes.

51 "Comes the revolution, tovarisch, and you won't need to vote!  Our Council Of Equality Czars will take that burden from you and administer the State's functions in the best manner possible for the workin' class (and the children)."
Stuff Comrade Obama might have said!

52 I always loved this guy. Ex-Bear snubs Ogabe.
Danimal

53 Vic, immigration reform is not the same as amnesty.  Immigration is really fucking fucked up in this country, even the legal kind.  If it wasn't so hard to get a visa to get into this country legally, we wouldn't have such a problem with illegals.

Posted by: chemjeff at September 29, 2011 08:04 AM (s7mIC)

This is correct but thanks to maximum assholes Rove, McCain and Graham, all talk of reform translates into amnesty.

54 More Romney love, and another reason not to support him:

Obama's top 'fat cat' strays

JP Morgan honcho Jamie Dimon, once a “fat cat” ally of President Obama, seems to have strayed to Republican contender Mitt Romney.

Dimon, a lifelong Democrat who was rumored to be on Obama’s short list for treasury secretary before he settled on Tim Geitner, met privately with Romney on Tuesday morning before a fund-raiser at Brasserie 8¹/2 hosted by Highbridge Capital, a JPMorgan-owned hedge fund.

Dimon, who was spotted “in a discreet one-on-one” discussion with Romney, cannot publicly endorse a candidate because he sits on the board of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. But he donated to Democratic candidates in 2008 and privately supported Obama.

Well isn't that special.

55 Skinny wimmins and lard-O dudes. What do they mean?

I can't speak for all of the moronettes (or, evidently, figure out italics), but I prefer my men to be larger.  Makes them more fun to cuddle!

56 Total formatting breakdown ^^ ... middle three paragraphs should be italicized, with the bold within removed ... yikes ....

57 Faux News can be considered conservative only relative to the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy that pumps state propaganda at us 24/7.

"We report and (help) you decide!" would be a more realistic motto for them.

58 Well they like him because he's not a conservative too.

A generic Republican is sort of conservative, but not so conservative that he when Democrats push back he won't fold faster than Superman on laundry day. That's pretty much Mittens in a nutshell. Also any given politician with the last name 'Bush.'

59 Posted by: Blacksheep at September 29, 2011 08:08 AM (NQqz7)
Looks like Romney can reach across the aisle to "Dem campaign contributors" (read that as potential next administration crony socialist) as well as across the legislative aisle to screw us with O'Romneycare!

60 I saw an interview with Roger Ailes a couple of days ago.  He said FOX is purposefully moving back toward the center after having moved rightward following the '08 election and during the Tea Party uprising.  Guess he wants to better position FOX for that sweet, sweet 2012 election season money.  And blow Mitt Romney.

I may have made that last part up.  Then again, maybe not.

61 34 I worked for the state of NJ. Out on a disability pension.  Paymaster..that sounds so 19th century.

Posted by: Luke@yahoo.com at September 29, 2011 07:39 AM (t4YF+)

Let me guess: back pain, high blood pressure or COPD. Any of those correct?

62 Let me guess: back pain, high blood pressure or COPD. Any of those correct? I knew that was coming, I just didn't know who would turn it loose.

63 66, all three?

64 I think Fox is getting so liberal in connection with all of the investigations going on with them in England.  Whatever the reason, however, they are unwatchable.

65 Luke = transparent concern troll.  You can tell by his runny blue droppings.

66 69, It's kind of like Beck left and took the truth with him.

67 Illegals move, pull out of school, live in fear .... feature, not a bug

68 Good Lord...who trolls this early in the morning? 

69 72, No shit, let me violate a Federal law. Who would cry for me? My Mom prolly, maybe my wife and 1 of my kids.

70 Quite frankly, if Romney can fool big money Obama donors into giving money to him, then that is a plus for Romney not a minus.

71 Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 29, 2011 08:20 AM (6IV8T)
Having a liberal government in total administrative and regulatory control of the very license(s) that permit you to operate at all, does tends to shift your views to the center/left.

72 Watergate didnt have a body count - should have turned Liddy loose.

73 Perry on CNBC.

74 73, There is no sun in moms basement, I doubt if he knows whether it is AM or PM.

75 The Tea Party should start a network. Primetime lineup...

- The Marx Factor
- CSI: Obama admin
- Law and Order: Fast and Furious

76 Vic at September 29, 2011 07:06 AM

The RNC won't allow any states other than South Carolina, Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada to hold a primary earlier than March 6.

I've never understood why this is.

What happens is, the votes in these states influence the votes in the states yet to come.

By the time it got to Washington State, the nomination was already in the bag for McCain.

My choice was, vote with the winner, or throw away a vote.

77 74, if it is an IRS, ATF, or EPA reg., I'll lift a pint in sympathy.

78 Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

If that isn't criminal, what is?

79 80 Don't Forget, The Big Bang Hoax

80 The RNC won't allow any states other than South Carolina, Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada to hold a primary earlier than March 6.

I've never understood why this is.

Those four states want to go first, and they'll do anything to make sure they go first.  It's to prevent primaries from beginning three years before the election. 

81 National Geographic: Hunting the NE RINO

82 So You Want to Be a Top Blogger

83 Pimp My Mom's Basement

84 Those four states want to go first, and they'll do anything to make sure they go first.  It's to prevent primaries from beginning on Jan 21st three years before the election. 

Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 29, 2011 08:28 AM (FkKjr)

FIFY

85 79 73, There is no sun in moms basement, I doubt if he knows whether it is AM or PM.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 29, 2011 08:24 AM (ZDUD4)

You'd think he'd be able to tell how old the Cheetos stains are.

86 "Cain Is Able" link to the issues.

Anyone catch Cain's interview on Michael Savage? I only heard a bit.

Background: Cain earned his degrees in math/physics, with a master's from Purdue in computer science. Cain is a great communicator with a solid and efficient intellect who produces success for a real living.

There's likely concern regarding the Federal Reserve cloning the dollar. But the mannered approach to solve the problem in order to terminate the corruption would obviously vary based upon background and ideologies. Cain isn't talking about the Federal Reserve on his website. I doubt that Cain would address the Fed's corruption; he knows the Fed would never allow itself to be clipped from power. That he has experience within the Fed is a given. Cain's business approach to the economy would be based on his own experience of what feasibly can be accomplished to improve economic matters ASAP using current institutions at play. Until Ron Paul himself is arguing with Herman Cain about the Federal Reserve, I wouldn't put much stock in the "stupid" molehill tiff being hyped since every candidate has bitter clingers. Repeating a question no matter how many times the answer remains the same is at best an exercise in futility, and at worst, torture. And so far as the Republican big tent is concerned given the media hyping antagonism, I'd think he's well grounded. Cain didn't dismiss out-of-hand the concerns of Libertarian/Republicans aka Goldwater Republicans since guest hosting regularly for Neil Boortz, "a confirmed Libertarian." Cain's kept in step with the grassroots public concerns hosting talk radio, and his business success includes multi-perspectives from each segment of the population as to what is needed for top performance synthesized with what the establishment mechanisms will do.

/relish on the side: Moochelle's bomb removed by Cain.

87 NASCAR NOW, you don't have to change anything.

88 UE claims 391,000

89

You'd think he'd be able to tell how old the Cheetos stains are

Not necessarily.

For most of them you'd have to use carbon dating techniques.

90 w----o----r-------d

91 Not all candidates can afford or organize national campaigns straight out of the chute, so maybe we should have rotating regional primaries?  Break the country down into 6-8 manageable-sized chunks and have all states in that region vote on the same day, with the order of the regions rotating.  That way everyone gets a say under the same conditions.

92 94, I think he must keep track of time by the number of jars of piss surrounding the computer. It's a long walk up the stairs.

93

@27.  Cheap labor.

If an American business has to hire illegal border jumpers to turn a profit then they don't need to be in business. If a business hires jumpers because they don't want to pay a decent wage then the boss needs to spend some time in jail and pay a hefty fine.  It's that simple.

94 What about a Top Gun competition first?

Varmints vs. coyotes vs. mooseses

95 It's to prevent primaries from beginning three years before the election.

lol² given Fred's dissuading "late entry"

96

45....Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:02 AM (M9Ie6)

This is what I don't understand. All the dems and all the media AND the RNC seem to be anointing Romney. It doesn't make sense that supposedly opposing factors should all be on the same side.

It's easy to understand why the Dems want Romney......they know they can beat him.

The Obama media.....same thing. ....Fox must want Obama to win because he's been so good for their ratings.

The RNC......either they are too dense to realize that Romney can't win, or they want to throw this cycle so that they can run Jeb or someone else that they can control, in 2016. 

97

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 29, 2011 08:34 AM (ZDUD4)

Now that makes sense.

400ml = 1 day.

Very scientific!

98

Sure, no clocks in mom's basement.  And yet every PC I've owned has a leetle clock in the lower right corner.  Unless his is set to brother Bluto's time.

99 104, It prolly blinks 12:00

100 Vic, immigration reform is not the same as amnesty.

You can bet your paycheck on someone pushing amnesty if they are on TV calling for "immigration reform". You would win 99 out of 100 times. The federal Dream Act was amnesty, this guy was pushing the federal dream act. IOW he was pushing amnesty.

So 99 out of 100 "immigration reform" calls are in fact amnesty unless they call for my version of reform below.

101

Have to post this every time the left calls for “reform”.

Yes we need immigration reform, but NOT what has been rolled out the last half dozen times. Every bill that has come out since the first major rewrite in 1965 has basically been amnesty and open invitation for illegals to flood across the border.

We are no longer the country of the 19th century with vast open areas in the West. Our cities are overcrowded shit holes run by corrupt communist hacks AND there is no longer a vast area open for the inhabitants to flee to and take up farming.

This is not to mention that we have entire towns in CA with a population > 20,000 in which none of the citizens speak English.  The current crew of "immigrants" do not appear to desire to assimilate and the current crowd of liberals do not think they should. The schools have gone from teaching America as a mixing pot to America as a salad bowl where "diversity" is celebrated and heritage counts for all, unless you have a European heritage then you are a racist.

Yes, there are a lot of things that need to be done to "fix" our immigration laws.  The first one of these should be to repeal that POS of Amnesty Round I that got us where we are today.

We need immigration law that does the following AND that is enforced:

1. Eliminate the BS anchor baby interpretation by providing a definition of what the term “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” means, which is not dashing across the border to deliver a baby.  Personally, I would require that at least one of the parents of any child born in the U.S. be a citizen before that child was eligible for “birthright” citizenship. If not, then the child would have to undergo naturalization.

2. Provide a reliable means for employers to check the status of employees.

3. Provide severe punishments for knowingly hiring illegals (or reckless disregard). That punishment should include jail time for repeat violations.  

4. Eliminate ALL benefits for illegals including schools for children.

5. Rewrite legal immigration to allow in immigrants with a desirable education and/or skill set and arrange the waiting list to have the most skilled/educated at the top of the list. (Australian system) Also include a check for communicable diseases (as we did in the past) and provide for immunization. Immigrants from countries on the list of terror support need not apply.

6. For groups that already have large populations in the U.S. who have not assimilated, reduce the allowable numbers until they do (eliminate whole towns that do not speak English)

7. Provide severe penalties for mules.

8. Provide the death penalty for people involved in sex slavery.

9. Eliminate all forms of asylum. That system has been abused to the point of making it a joke. Any true case that needs to be let in should be a case by case special act passed by congress. Get them on record.

10. Immigrants who become involved in any serious crime prior to becoming a citizen should be deported back to their home country.

11. Absolutely no dual citizenship allowed.

102 12

Just for you CharlieBrown'sDildo (NJConservative)

 

A guy from NJ wises up.

Posted by: Vic at September 29, 2011 07:07 AM (M9Ie6)

Excellent article. My NYC in-laws are ignorant in that area as well. Gee, I'll just get all my information from Hollywood and other bigots. One told me last year that in NY she could get her film developed in an hour. Well, well, here in the DC suburbs we don't even use film anymore.

103 Greta pushing that leftist propaganda that "good" food is too expensive.

How stupid. "Good food" is less expensive. In fact some of it is free after a little expenditure in miracle grow and manure.

104 From the Sides: Obama Regime Approves $737 Million “Loan” to Solar Company Where Pelosi’s Brother In Law is a Top Executive.

But, remember, crony capitalism and payouts to connected politicians are crucial to competing with China.

105 So THEY'VE PICKED Romney for us... Deja Vu all over again..

106 Until we seal the border, Immigration reform of any kind is pointless. These pols are still argueing about Fence or no fence Troops or Feds on and on and on. Wasn't there a time when the RNC had a basic platform that all candidates followed?

107 Wonder if that's what Michelle Malkin wants, too?

Malkin wears mittens.

108 Brian RossObama Fundraisers Tied to Green Firms That Got Fed Cash; 'Bundler' Worked for DOE As It Dispensed $$$:

I'm shocked! Shocked I tells ya!

109 OT: Firefox 7 really is faster. Dang.

110 sow despair.

PORK?!

111 Those four states want to go first, and they'll do anything to make sure they go first.  It's to prevent primaries from beginning three years before the election.
  Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at September 29, 2011 08:28 AM

It seems to me, that if you can hold the general election on the same day in every state, you should be able to hold the nomination elections and caucuses on the same day in every state, also.

I mean, there's a reason, election returns, during the general election, aren't announced until the voting has ended.

Why should the nomination process be any different?

112 113, Good list Vic, It makes sense.

113 Cain won't support Perry immigration-lite on the general ticket.
fox radio news

114 117, I agree. I would even use a "ZULU" time so no time zone starts and finishes before any other.

115 Okay Vic I didn't know what this particular guy was pushing on TV, if he was pushing DREAM act then yeah it's amnesty, fine.

But on your 11-point list: can someone be in favor of, say, 7 or 8 of those items and still be considered "anti-amnesty"?

116 Posted by: Case at September 29, 2011 08:34 AM (FD6YW) -------------------------------------- I like it.

117 Hi Chemjeff, Would anti amnesty mean that no one currently in the country illegally gets citizenship? Unless they go to the back of the legal immigration line or something?

118 Forbes published a Frank Miniter piece on Fast & Furious. http://tinyurl.com/3pt4yub It's long, but it puts the timeline into a perspective that eliminates the need to imagine comic book villains cooking this up in some back room. It was a sequence of really shitty decisions by the overzealous political operators who infest Obama's executive branch, but even so, it still might reach all the way to the top.

119 But on your 11-point list: can someone be in favor of, say, 7 or 8 of those items and still be considered "anti-amnesty"?

Which ones would you throw out and why?

BTW, that list wasn't intended to be so much anti-amnesty as it was general reform of immigration. To be "anti-amnesty" all it takes is "no path to citizenship for illegals" or as Perry actually said "there already is a path to citizenship, get in line". 

120 Doom is up

121

I think the SocSec Ponzi Scheme is the reason why so many politicians on both sides are squishy on illegal immigration.

They want more warm bodies paying into the system. ....Employers are still matching the SocSec/Med they withhold from an illegal's paycheck, just like a citizen's paycheck.

122 I despise the cluelessness of politicians. Perry apologizes for calling us "heartless".....thinking this MUST be the reason for his declining poll numbers! If I just say I'm sorry...........I'll climb back up.... Nah, you just don't get it, Rick. You see, the make-up of America now is barely sustainable. Our public schools are a mess. Our welfare burden continues to grow. There isn't a major American city you can walk safely in at nigh due to crime. And Rick Perry wants to INCREASE all of this. Rick Perry wants to bring this to your city and town. No thanks.

123 Some people just won't take "NO" for an answer.

Christie seriously considering presidential bid after GOP prodding

124 Not every potus candidate ends up endorsing the primary victor.

A lot haven't in the past, sometimes based on how politics became "personal" either when the victor "stole" the loser's ideas, or else the loser's ideas simply lost.

What Cain refuses to endorse Federally is using tax funds to benefit illegal aliens.

It's a matter of consistent law, good business and a clear policy battle line. It's not a personal vendetta.

LOL, drawing the legendary Alamo line and Perry finding himself straddling the fence...knee-jerk can-can cabaret barkers make it personal, 3-2-1!

125 Well I have to go to work right after this so I will let you have the last word.

I don't favor not educating the kids.  If they're here, we should educate them.  How that is paid for is a different matter.  I don't think it should come out of local property tax budgets, the feds should pick up the tab for educating the illegals.

I also don't agree with the "eliminate towns that haven't assimilated" bit.  If they want to bask in their Spanish or Italian or Vulcan heritage, that's fine with me.  I would require, however, that all official business be conducted in English.

Those are the biggies in my mind anyway.

126 Employers are still matching the SocSec/Med they withhold from an illegal's paycheck, just like a citizen's paycheck.

As often as not, employers pocket what they withhold from illegal alien employee FICA pay, never submitted to the IRS. Banks aren't the only ones with two sets of books.

Imagine your frustration when those who stole your SS# file for your SSbenefits and you're triple screwed.

127 Peter Orszag, in a semantic way, is somewhat correct. We definitely need less Democracy, but we need a helluva lot more CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLICANISM. Fucking dangerous little pencil-necked bureaucrats like him will lead us all straight to the gates of Auschwitz.

128 Taking Cain seriously.

129 We need a single primary for the whole country on the same day.  Screw these states that think they are more "important" than others.

130 I also don't agree with the "eliminate towns that haven't assimilated" bit.  If they want to bask in their Spanish or Italian or Vulcan heritage, that's fine with me.

The idea is not to "eliminate the town". It is to reduce the allowable number of immigrants until those towns are assimilated into our culture. When you have cities of 20,000 residents in which everyone speaks a foreign language it is indicative of failure to assimilate and immigration run wild.

Sure we had "foreign ghettos" in NYC in the early part of the 20th century in which Italian or German was a main language but within a few short years they were dispersed and assimilated.

That is not happening in CA and people are actively calling for it NOT to happen. As I said, "salad bowl" has replaced "melting pot".

131

There is a difference between Immigration and Colonization.

My Cherokee ancestors would have been happy to explain the difference.

132 the fence would likely be expensive, ineffective

Perhaps Vic and Perry aren't aware of the fence and DMZ between north and south Korea or the Berlin wall for that matter?

133 @Men like Rick; women like Mitt????
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Hawt women like Rick!

Good morning morons. 

134 Did you read the comments? Most of the lefties at TNR think suspending Democracy is a swell idea.

Coincidentally (?), a Lefty (but kind of a squish Lefty - almost more a cultural Lefty than an Axelrod troll) friend of mine posted this Isaac Asimov quote on his FB yesterday: “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'”

135 Vic, 
There are towns like that in Michigan, too, but they speak Arabic.  And they get more and more demanding as years go by.  Now they don't even want to be able to hear church bells from surrounding cities, and they expect non-muslim women who visit their cities to dress appropriately. 

136 @If it wasn't so hard to get a visa to get into this country legally, we wouldn't have such a problem with illegals

I don't think so. 

I am for legal immigration.  I think it makes, and has made, our country robust and vibrant.  And I certainly am aware of the visa issues in trying to hire skilled workers (having done so myself when I had a lab).  Those could certainly be stream-lined and improved. 

But I don't think that has anything to do with folks crossing the border in white cargo vans or climbing fences or fording rivers at night. 

And, not to put too fine a point on it, just how many visas would you want to grant to a population of folks with no prospects in their home country, one that is royally effed up and causing problems for us here, and who do not speak English or have educations or any prospects for a job here? 

I just don't see those folks every having the wherewithall to get visas legally anyway, no matter how well-run that system was. 

137 @59
Romney is McCain 2.0, less the military record.  He's starting to scare the shit out of me.

138

Governments, if they endure, always tend increasingly toward
aristocratic forms. No government in history has been known to evade
this pattern. And as the aristocracy develops, government tends more
and more to act exclusively in the interests of the ruling class --
whether that class be hereditary royalty, oligarchs of financial
empires, or entrenched bureaucracy.”

Frank Herbert

I think Ms. Perdue proved this yesterday with her comment about eliminating elections.

139 141 Vic, There are towns like that in Michigan, too, but they speak Arabic. And they get more and more demanding as years go by. Now they don't even want to be able to hear church bells from surrounding cities, and they expect non-muslim women who visit their cities to dress appropriately. Posted by: chillin the most for Perry at September 29, 2011 09:31 AM As a resident of NYC, I can honestly say that any non-Hassidic Jew who walks through the orthodox neighborhoods of Borough Park or Williamsburg isn't given a second look by residents. I think people in general are respectful because those residents have earned the respect by being good citizens and neighbors. It's the stealth Islmao's that, once they gain a toehold, start making the demands; a little here, a little there until one day it's convert or die. No. Thank. You.

140 143 @59
Romney is McCain 2.0, less the military record.  He's starting to scare the shit out of me.

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2011 09:36 AM (5H6zj)

Yeah, but he's "electable". Right JeffB?

141 Perhaps Vic and Perry aren't aware of the fence and DMZ between north and south Korea or the Berlin wall for that matter?

Yeah they are the same thing aren't they?? How many armed guards were posted on the Berlin wall. How many troops are still posted at the DMZ to guard that concertina wrapped and mined no man's land. (which is 160 miles long compared to 2000 miles at the U.S. border.) 

142 The only reason that assholes like Warren, Orszag and Perdue are seemingly getting away with their hideous statements is the lack of education over the past 40-50 years in the Constitution and how our republic is supposed to function (along with the destruction of the American image and legacy). That's why their statements would sound acceptable to people under the age of 40, and even appealing the younger you go from there. As Reagan so aptly put it, we are only one generation away from losing our freedom. G-d help us.

143 A good read with in-depth counters to this seemingly coordinated totalitarian ground-prepping (Warren, Perdue, Orszag, and Frank): http://tinyurl.com/3ngo5ck

144 Perhaps Vic and Perry aren't aware of the fence and DMZ between north and south Korea or the Berlin wall for that matter?

Posted by: Barbarian at September 29, 2011 09:26 AM (EL+OC)

Perhaps you've never visited Big Bend country?

145 Hawt women like Rick!

Good morning morons. 

Posted by: Y-not at September 29, 2011 09:26 AM (5H6zj)

Damn straight!

Mornin'

146

@Men like Rick; women like Mitt????
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Hawt women like Rick!

139 Y-not,

The snooty-ness is strong in that poll. ....It also says that Perry polls high with non-college-educated people as a whole.

Isn't that the PC term for 'rednecks'? ...."Non-college-educated"?

147 @152
Are non-college educated people subhuman or something?  I kind of missed that memo. 

I hate those pricks and the divide they're helping to create between people who happen to go to universities and people who don't. 

148

147... Perhaps Vic and Perry aren't aware of the fence and DMZ between north and south Korea or the Berlin wall for that matter?

Yeah they are the same thing aren't they?? How many armed guards were posted on the Berlin wall. How many troops are still posted at the DMZ to guard that concertina wrapped and mined no man's land. (which is 160 miles long compared to 2000 miles at the U.S. border.)

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Exactly, Vic.

In addition to being tiny compared to the US-Mexico border.....the DMZ and Berlin wall don't/didn't have miles and miles of a major River serving as the borderline.

149 Are non-college educated people subhuman or something?  I kind of missed that memo. 

I hate those pricks and the divide they're helping to create between people who happen to go to universities and people who don't. 


Some of the most clueless people I've ever met were PhD's. and, not surprisingly, they were rabid liberals to boot.

Just saying.

150

153.....I hate those pricks and the divide they're helping to create between people who happen to go to universities and people who don't.

It's clear that Romney has the elistist vote.

It's also interesting that the people who have a problem with Perry's 'accent'.....are strangely silent about Herman Cain's accent.

 

151 156........*elitist...........dammit, need more coffee.

152 Also, the DMZ had been a stalemate battle front for two years of heavy fighting at the time it was established.

153 Of course, I also was lucky to watch Fernando Valenzuela when I was getting into baseball and the Cards back in Whitey's era had some pitchers who were good with a bat.  I *think* Ken Dayley was one of them, but my memory is shot. 

Yeah, I still prefer football and hockey, but baseball has its own appeal, especially as a game to watch live. 

154 Shoot, wrong thread!

155 "I want the public to understand that Mr. Ferdaus' conduct, as alleged in the complaint, is not reflective of a particular culture, community or religion," said Carmen Ortiz, U.S. Attorney for the District of Massachusetts. "In addition to protecting our citizens from the threats and violence alleged today, we also have an obligation to protect members of every community, race and religion against violence and other unlawful conduct.
Stole this quote right off of Fox News. A muslim jihadi wanting to fly planes into the Pentagon is not reflective of a particular culture?
There is a certain amount of slowburn that lives in me.

156 It's not fun watching all the wailing and whining and spinning from people. The same people who were demanding a fence during the Bush administration now have seen the light and say it's not feasible. E-verify is now wrought with problems and a system we should not use. Pandering for the Hispanic vote is now an unfortunate political necessity that you can't fault someone for. Sad.

157 Yeah we all supported Bush and McCain-Kennedy in 2005. NOT

But Romney did

BTW, I wrote that "reform" post in 2005 when the amnesty bill was being floated. it took a mass of conservatives phoning in to congress to block that POS after it was passed in the Senate.

It was also the start of the massive fall in Bush poll numbers as his base started deserting him.

158 Here's an interesting video regarding Hispanics and immigration in Texas.

Should be a sidebar item, IMO

http://tinyurl.com/3zrfr85

159

162.....Pandering for the Hispanic vote is now an unfortunate political necessity that you can't fault someone for. Sad.

Sad? ....Yeah sad....and disgusting.

I don't like it one bit.

People like to hold up Ronald Reagan as some sort of 'gold standard' for a conservative president. ....But the truth is, he granted Amnesty for over 3 million illegals.

The thing that people don't like to admit that they loved about Reagan, was the fact that he won by landslides.....twice.

Which is what I think that Rick Perry could deliver.

Jim Inhoffe was the single biggest opponent of the McCain/Bush Amnesty Bill. ....He filibustered it and poison pilled it to death. ........And yet Jim Inhoffe has endorsed Rick Perry without hesitation.

People like to claim that Perry is another 'compassionate conservative' like Bush. .....No, not really. ....Perry is more of a 'tough love' conservative. While he may love his fellow man, he believes in doing the tough things that benefit the country as a whole in the long run, not just what would be the 'compassionate' thing for a few.

160 Perry's got that tough love Executive Order power or Eminent Domain power to benefit his fellow man because he knows what you need. I wish Perry was half as competent as Bush.

161 Polynikes.....you seem to be forgetting that The Fence would require the largest Eminent Domain land taking in the history of this country. ....It would be taking thousands of square miles of property from American land owners, and essentially giving it to Mexico, because it would be outside The Fence. Including giving up access to the Rio Grande River.

162

An interested lurker for quite some time on this remarkable site, the now "leftist" Fox News and Establishment (radical marxist Dems, statist, possibly fascistic, Repubs) support firming for Romney leads me to comment.  Please be kind. 

The main issues I see for election 2012 are:  1. Encourage all "responsible" private development of natural energy resources first -- no government help in any way -- we cannot return to affluence without vigorous energy development; 2. Return healthcare to decisions between the individual and his/her doctor -- medical insurance competitive across the U.S. and carried from job to job -- everyone has an opportunity for basic healthcare; 3. Return CO2 to its life-giving and life-enhancing status -- real, not fraudulent, science -- real, not "fraudulent" education; 4. Completely secure the U.S. borders first, immigration reform to follow; 5.  Limit all government (city, state, federal) spending to 18% of GDP, no double taxation; 6.  Keep a graduated income tax (people must notice when they are working for the government), e.g., 5% $40,000 or less; 10% <$70,000; 15% <$100,000; 20% < $250,000; 25% <$1,000,000; 30% >$1,000,000 -- everyone pays and everyone works when receiving any government assistance; 6. Reduce the size of government on all levles to fit 18% GDP; 7.  No government support for "business" endeavors -- tricky, how do states compete for corporations?; 8. No government interferrence in the private sector, and transparency and accountability for all according to the law -- this just about takes care of the financial mess, banking scandal, the Federal Reserve, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; 9. Strong foreign policy, but absolutely directed by national interest, not moral policing of the globe - support our allies, eliminate the UN on our soil and from our budget.

I view these as "liberal" positions (none of today's Dems are liberal, they befoul the definition) because they encourage "liberty and justice for all" and "life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness" for every individual.  They are "conservative" because they have been agreed to and practiced over a long period of American history.  One example -- Cain's 9-9-9 taxation plan -- is a radical revision of our system.  A federal "sales" taxes and a "flat tax" completely change the nature of our social compact.  Beware.

All those Republican primary candidates who support the majority of these positions should be cherished and encouraged to discuss and debate as long as possible.  The electorate must be informed.  The debates are doing that (positive) at the same time they have a leftist purpose of sinking the candidacy of Gov Perry (negative).  I wish they were not run by the marxist (socialist, statist-fascist) media, but how else do the candidates reach the largest audience?

163 CMAJH. I'm not for the fence as proposed though the eminent Domain issues for this mostly unoccupied harsh land is nothing like the transcorridor grab. Anyway I'm more on Perry's side regard to issues about a fence. I was just pointing out others inconsistency.

164 Oh, the movie drive? Just sneak in and watch the first ten minutes and then walk away.

165 Oh, just saw the new headline, obama blaming F&F on budget cuts. The magically mythical budget cuts! If only! We're spending $3trillion a year on god knows what, about a trillion more than me can afford. What bullshit, federal workers make more and have more job security than their private sector counterparts.

166 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

167

The Snobby Clusterfuck of a First Lady goes shopping at Target! Just like a real people! She even carrys her own bags! Lookie, she's pushing a shopping cart! Where do I donate?

The story is typical MF media slobbering, the comments are brutal. Morons should feel right at home.

http://tinyurl.com/6z282zh

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