1 Mornin' maroons. Who won the debate?

2 My theory is this  -- standing on Vic's front yard and taking a lengthy piss is the best medicine to get the ole curmudgeon back on his feet so he can aim better with that shotgun full of rock salt (at least, that's what I hope he has loaded). So I'm gonna try and do his morning news feed, and do it so badly comment wise that he comes a huntin'. Btw Vic, General Lee was a piker that couldn't plan his way out of a paper bag.
 
Call this a homage, if you will.
 
The religion of pieces may in involved in this caper:

Police in Berlin have arrested two men suspected of planning a bomb attack.

One of the men is described as a 24-year-old German citizen of Lebanese descent, while the other is from Gaza, aged 28.

They had procured chemical substances which could be used to make explosives, a police spokesman said.

Police are searching the premises of an Islamic cultural centre in the Wedding district, as well as the two men's residences.

3 I think the a-hole libtards asking the questions.

4 The Brits seem to care about what the SCoaMF is up to:

President Obama's much-vaunted jobs and growth package sparked outrage after it was revealed that it could cost more than $400 billion.

Mr Obama is set to unveil a massive new government spending bonanza just weeks after the country was brought to the brink of defaulting on its debts in a bitter deadlock over the ballooning national deficit.

It is certain to ignite fury from Republicans if estimates of the staggering cost of the jobs package prove correct when the beleaguered president spells out full details to the nation in a rare joint session of Congress Thursday.
 

5 Abraham Lincoln was the best president ever.

6

Hey Vic, if you are around this morning...

Saw you are back home.  Prayers to you, and fight hard.  Get well soon.  Glad to see you back.

7 How many people even watched it?

8 The Brits also seem to care how debates are going:

Rick Perry eased through his first Republican presidential debate tonight with a straight-talking and confident performance.

The Texas governor defied expectations he might falter on the national stage and batted off challenges from Mitt Romney on the economy, healthcare and social security.

Pulling no punches he repeated his controversial claims that social security is a 'Ponzi scheme', revealed that he backed the opening of Guantanamo Bay and won a huge round of applause for his staunch support of the death penalty.

9

Good Morning Morons; the morning doomy news is back!

I note that Grimy Gretchen loved Mittens and Steve Douche likes Huntsman. Gretchen also did a big interview of a “Dem debate coach” who of course loved Romney. WTF Gretchen? Interview a Dem for a Republican debate?   

I didnÂ’t see the debate but it appeared the questions were ALL gotcha questions against Republicans and the candidate specifically. Yeah NBC, no bias there.

One thing loved about Perry in the quotes they threw out on F&F he wasnÂ’t afraid to call a lie a lie and a liar a liar.

I have tried to find a site with the transcripts but havenÂ’t been able to yet.

10 It seems Gunwalker/F&F/Gangwalker aren't going away:

The Law: Operation Gunwalker, the rogue ATF operation to arm Mexico's cartels, extends now to three White House officials. A bell goes off with the one named Dan Restrepo.

Late last Friday, CBS News and the Los Angeles Times almost buried the news that Restrepo, the National Security Council's top man for Latin America, and two other officials, were in on ATF memos from the Gunwalker operation called "Fast and Furious."

That blows apart White House claims that it had no idea the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives was encouraging frontmen for Mexico's cartels to buy weapons from U.S. gun dealers — to "trace" them afterward

11

News that ain't news

For all you Paulbots out there, this is why you are not included in any of the polls that intend to be worthwhile.

12

Eye of Newt may be performing a worthwhile function

I note this is the second time he has come out swinging against the liberal media in these debates.  Still, I would just as soon he drop out. Too many candidates in now.

13

Now even the animals want to be Morons

But sorry Moron Elk, we donÂ’t allow no Scandi Morons here.

14 Wikileaks continues to stir the pot, along with China:

A Chinese warship fired a high-powered beam of light that disrupted the vision of crew members aboard a U.S. Navy surveillance ship operating in international waters in 2008.

According to a newly released State Department cable, the apparent blinding attack on the USNS Victorious, an ocean survey ship, occurred in the East China Sea.

15

It is becoming more and more obvious that the Senate is still stuck on stupid for spending.

Perhaps that is because they know they will get what they want with the “committee”. Thanks crying Boner.

16

Sessions/Coburn come out against portions of Patent Bill

Make no mistake people, this bill is a POS and a reward to high paying lobbyists for big companies. What they attack here is a drop in the bucket.

17

Weasel Zipper poll has Perry winning

18 Good ole Debbie Wasshername got off her fat ass long enough to puke this out:
 
“What the American people saw tonight was all of the Republican candidates reaffirming their allegiance to the extreme ideology of the Tea Party,” Democratic Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who chairs the Democratic National Committee, declared at 10:42 p.m.

“If you’re a middle class family looking for opportunity the GOP field once again offered no solutions tonight,” Wasserman Schultz said. “On issue after issue, Tea Party beliefs are taking hold of the Republican Party as they continually put the well-being of corporations, big oil, and special interests ahead of middle class Americans,” said her statement, which mentioned only Romney and Perry.

19

Perry wins more endorsements in SC but the two most critical ones are still open

The $64K question is “who will get the Haley and DeMint endorsement? Both are still open and we are now into the actual campaigning season. I’ll take this opportunity to also repeat that it is now post-labor day and the polls will now become more meaningful as “name recognition” drops and the leading poll driver. The further we get past labor day the less influence past name recognition becomes.

20 Finally, LA Senator Vitter has decided to hold a football party rather than attend the SCoaMF's blabber fest tonight. I can't blame him, as I've scheduled an elective surgery for today that will make my balls look more 'oriental'. The girls like that kinky stuff, or so I'm told.
 
Get back here soon Vic, or I will continue to poach your preserve and take major dumps on your lawn.

21

Washington Examiner doesn't like Obomanomics/Stimulus 3

There is an old saw that insanity means doing the same thing over and over, in the vain hope that the outcome will somehow change.

Gee imagine that, “common sense”.

22

A prime example of why the government should have ZERO influence in private markets

They rarely do what they are advertised to do. I smell the stink of “cronies” here.

23 Now back to the top to review comments

24 I saw a tie b/w Perry and Romney. the Romneybots were out in force claiming victory last night. Perry underwhelmed but I don't think he did any bad except for not landing a knockout punch. That said, I don't see any tick up in the polls for anyone. The Sept 22 race where Huntsman won't grab so much limelight and the Moderators won't debate the Candidates will be telling.

25 Nevermind, I see Vic is back. I have five words for you -- "Damn glad to see you son".

26 My theory is this  -- standing on Vic's front yard and taking a lengthy piss is the best medicine to get the ole curmudgeon back on his feet so he can aim better with that shotgun full of rock salt (at least, that's what I hope he has loaded)

I would never ruin a good shotgun by loading a shell with rock salt. Something worth shooting is worth shooting good.

And when I first moved in here I could stand on my front porch and piss in the yard, and often did. We had all woods and a dirt road then. Not so much now.

27 oops the Sept 22 debate*

28 Posted by: Delta Smelt at September 08, 2011 07:11 AM (dWPyO)

Thanks Delta. How you liking Charleston so far? You've been there about a year now right?

29 Finally, our paper boy/Man has returned with all the news that is the news accross the Nation and the world. Nice to see you Vic!

30

I note this is the second time he has come out swinging against the liberal media in these debates.  Still, I would just as soon he drop out. Too many candidates in now.

Posted by: Vic is back at September 08, 2011 07:13 AM (M9Ie6)

Debates are what Newt excels at because, being a tireless attention-monger, he's addressed all the topics the shitstains at MSLSD would question him on multiple times and flapping his mouth about those topics is second nature to him.  Unfortunately for him (and fortunately for us) it's the only thing related to a successful Presidential campaign he does well in.

31 Welcome home, Vic. Howya feeling?

32 Get back here soon Vic, or I will continue to poach your preserve and take major dumps on your lawn.

Why not dump on my lawn? All the free roaming neighborhood dogs do.

33

  "Not so much now."

But that doesn't stop you, does it Vic?

34 Bigguns Geller is on F&F now. Damn, she is looking kinda old now.

35 Oh, hell yeah -- welcome back Vic!

36 By the way, Vic. I LOVE sans-serif fonts.

37 Was That Wrong?

I mean, if anyone had said anything...........

38 Welcome back, Vic. Glad to hear you're up and at 'em.

39 1 Mornin' maroons. Who won the debate? Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 08, 2011 07:08 AM (UlUS4) Not Perry, that's for sure. It's been an incredibly rainy night and morning here, and when that happens I usually toss and turn and worry... usually about stupid stuff that in the cold light of day later I realize make no sense at all. But in this case, the more I thought about Perry's performance last night the more disconcerted I became. Alas, the morning light only makes last night look worse. Perry cannot win Florida, yet all he did was keep insisting on and on that Social Security is a "Ponzi Scheme." Set aside the fact that of course it is. He knows - or should know - that Social Security is the Third Rail, that Florida is full of seniors, and that whatever he says about it, his words must be measured and no matter what, not scare seniors. So why use that expression? Stupid. Then he was utterly, utterly inarticulate about climate change - could not for the life of him present a case why it is not unreasonable to be skeptical of the idea man is responsible for it. Could not make the case that even if man plays a role, we must figure out how to address it without destroying our way of life. He was SO painfully inarticulate, you have to wonder if it wasn't because in fact in his heart he feels otherwise. THAT's how bad his performance was. His defense of Texas schools and his cuts could have been smoother... I honestly think he was getting tired near the end (not a good sign). But the worst thing he did was suggest that being next to Mexico makes Texans perform worse in schools. Now, we all know what he REALLY meant: the average scores in Texas schools are being undercut by illegal latino kids that can't even speak English. Fine... then he should have SAID DO, DAMNIT. But the way he put it... can be used by the MSNBC racialists to accuse him of all sorts of nasty things. Make no mistake about it... Perry in fact had a HORRIBLE night last night, so bad I no longer think he's a shoe in for the nomination. He needs to do lots and lots of work to do better in these debates. But even if he does, the things he said last night will haunt him through the general election. By the way, it's good to see you up on the Net, Vic... welcome back, and I hope all is well with you.

40 Oh, I meant: Perry cannot win the general election without Florida.

41

But that doesn't stop you, does it Vic?

Posted by: Case at September 08, 2011 07:25 AM (DYR2Q)

Yeah, too many neighbors (one of which is a sheriff's deputy) and too many kids.

42

Welcome back Vic, hope you are progressing well.

 

43

Welcome back Vic.  Pammy does look pretty bad.  Like her face is melting off of her skull.

 

44 Vic, your bro stopped by here yesterday to give us an update, which we all appreciated. He said something about lymph nodes; the surgeon didn't try and turn you into a parchesi board did he?

45 By the way, Vic. I LOVE sans-serif fonts.

I am actually posting in Arial. Your own default font setup for Windows/FF controls how you see the posts. Also may be some influence there from pixy.

46 "Weasel Zipper poll has Perry winning" That's not what I saw. Newt once again was the smartest man in the room. However, he is still a scumbag. If Romney and Perry were horses. Romney won by a length and a half. Although Perry certainly had the more conservative positions on SSI and social stuff. Huntsman was a cotton candy machine spewing softness and sweetness, and was rarely if at all challenged. They never set him up to actually debate another candidate like they were Romney/Perry, Santorum/Cain etc. The rest were unremarkable. At least thats how I saw it.

47 Re the Wasserman-Schultz quote above ...

DWS may not be the brightest bulb in the room, but she also isn't a complete and utter imbecile like Pelosi.  So it's really hard -- and I mean really hard -- watching her robotically spew out the same vapid, inane shit day after day after day.  I can't believe she can get up in the morning, grease up her hair, and go do it; I would hate the sound of my own voice by now.

48

Perry cannot win Florida

we'll see. last polls showed him barely beating Obama down here. and Rubio won FL and has been talking up entitlement reform.

49 48 Perry cannot win Florida we'll see. last polls showed him barely beating Obama down here. and Rubio won FL and has been talking up entitlement reform. Posted by: AuthorLMendez (Perry Guy) at September 08, 2011 07:32 AM (3XDPM) Sorry, I meant cannot win WITHOUT Florida. And his social security performance has really endangered that, I think.

50

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 08, 2011 07:31 AM (ZDUD4)

I'm looking at the 9/22 debate up next. FOX will do it so we won't deal with moderators debating candidates and trying to get a ganbang on 1 guy.

I'm thinking Perry will be more experienced in this setting and won't have to have just come back from a crisis in the state. If Perry underwhelms there too, i'll start getting worried.

I have a Perry-Hope pic as my main pic. I jumped on the Perry bandwaggon before he even announced, and I've gone toe-to-toe w/ Palinistas and Romneybots over Perry. But if he manages the tie I saw last night, I'll start worrying and being more quiet about my support and get on "wait and see" mode

The next week's polls should show some interesting developments but I predict Perry will keep his lead.

51 Vic, your bro stopped by here yesterday to give us an update, which we all appreciated. He said something about lymph nodes; the surgeon didn't try and turn you into a parchesi board did he?

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 08, 2011 07:30 AM (ENKCw)

I am told he cut out a total of 12 to 14 inches. During the debrief he said that included in the cut we 24 lymph nodes one of which was cancerous. That made it stage-III.

My remark for that was "then that is a low level Stage-III." He then said they didn't measure it that way. (After doing a little research yesterday at the American Cancer Society site I find they do break it own in to subcategories).

And I would also like to take this opportunity to thank all for thoughts and prayers during my week sojourn in hospital-hell. (Note to Morons, don;t even think you will get any rest or sleep in a hospital)

And to brother who I know is reading this now, You have broken the ice now. Isn't it time to come out of lurker status?

52

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 08, 2011 07:35 AM (niZvt)

Oh Ok, makes more sense lol

yeah a GOPer hasn't won the Presidency without FL since Coolidge in 1924, it's as badly needed as Dems need PA. Good news is Obama's polling bad against Perry and Romney down here. we'll see what happens, it's still early.

53 I have always discounted Rick Perry since I saw him give a terrible debate performance against K. B. Hutchison and Debra Medina in Republican Primary contest.  (Believe it or not, the two of them were worse than Perry.)  I'm not sure Perry has it in him to be an effective debater.

54 Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 08, 2011 07:31 AM (ZDUD4)

I didn't see the debate so I don't know who "won". The WZ thing was a vote which had Perry at 52%.

55

Posted by: chris at September 08, 2011 07:40 AM (KDAAY)

whos your candidate?

56

Posted by: Vic is back at September 08, 2011 07:40 AM (M9Ie6)

i'm a Perry guy but let's not just go with a strawpoll to decide. I say a tie.

57 A brother? Now Vic is back with double the crotchety old-timerness? Our cup runneth over!

58 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 08, 2011 07:32 AM (Lt/Za)

I have always thought that commission was a POS and a whitewash. Bush was initially against it and reversed himself. I'm sure that was the work of asshole Rove. Bush should have stuck with his guns.

59 Regarding social security:  Sooner or later the voters have to be treated like fucking adults about that abomination and told the truth about it, namely that Franklin Delano Cocksucker Roosevelt effectively sold every young person down the fucking shitter to support a bunch of useless hippie deadbeats in the name of communism.  The longer entitlement reform is put off the worse it's gonna be.

60 56, Isn't a WZ Perry number like a HA Palin number? I don't much buy polls but I suppose it's something. The best Part of the Debate was when Brian Williams said the State of Texas has executed 294 People, and the crowd went nuts cheering before he could even finsh the Question.

61 Is the Reagan library being fumigated after having all the MSLSD trash in it?

62 And to brother who I know is reading this now, You have broken the ice now. Isn't it time to come out of lurker status?
 
Yeah Vic, he even claimed to be a longtime lurker. Give him hell. But don't tell him too much about the initiation process as that scares a bunch of them off.

63 I would like Captain Hate put in charge of Muslim outreach at NASA.

64 64, Yep, and I think they are doing an inventory of everything that wasn't nailed down.

65 Vic, I'm proud you are back.  These damn yankees have been running amok.  And saying the most blasphemous things about our beloved South.

66 65 And to brother who I know is reading this now, You have broken the ice now. Isn't it time to come out of lurker status? Yeah Vic, he even claimed to be a longtime lurker. Give him hell. But don't tell him too much about the initiation process as that scares a bunch of them off. Posted by: GnuBreed at September 08, 2011 07:47 AM (ENKCw) Maybe we can allow him Lubricant instead of the normal dry way.

67 A brother?  Now Vic is back with double the crotchety old-timerness?

Hope it's not a Mycroft Holmes thing where it turns out the brother is an even more crotchety old-timer.  Pixy's hamster wheel can only handle so much causticness.

68 Vic, glad to see ya back.
Make sure you stay on top of the Docs and that they are as aggressive as they can be against this stuff.

69 Glad to see you back, Vic, hope it all went well.

70 Welcome Back, Vic!

71 Make sure you stay on top of the Docs and that they are as aggressive as they can be against this stuff.

Thanks;

In the past it has been me slowing them down. If I had gone in and got that colonoscopy done when my regular doc first told me to it probably would have been caught pre-cancer, or at least Stage-I.

Famous "past mistakes" will haunt you folks.

72 72, Ann Coulter? You mean the same Ann Coulter that thinks Fat Mitt is the Love child of Hayek and Rand? That Ann Coulter? Screw her.

73 76, That's awesome I'll remember that.

74 Huntsman was a cotton candy machine spewing softness and sweetness, and was rarely if at all challenged.

Do you think Huntsman showered after Brian Williams's tongue-bath, or do you think he went to bed with it on and touched himself?

75 62 Regarding social security: Sooner or later the voters have to be treated like fucking adults about that abomination and told the truth about it, namely that Franklin Delano Cocksucker Roosevelt effectively sold every young person down the fucking shitter to support a bunch of useless hippie deadbeats in the name of communism. The longer entitlement reform is put off the worse it's gonna be. Posted by: Captain Hate at September 08, 2011 07:44 AM (RKzwg) Absolutely. One question is, though... with America's desperate need to vote out Obama, maybe we should opt for later? At least until January 2013? The other thing is... my real point wasn't so much the substance of what Perry said, but HOW he said it. He COULD have said, "There is genuine concern that young people cannot count on Social Security being there for them 30 or 40 or 50 years from now. We are already seeing the government play games with how it measures inflation, so it can cheat today's retirees out of real COLA increases. I want to make sure there is a good retirement waiting for America's young people one day. We may call that Social Security or something else one day... but I want to make sure it will be there!" Don't you think that would be a far savvier thing to have said last night than to double down on "Ponzi Scheme"?

76

Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 08, 2011 07:32 AM (Lt/Za)

 

That is explosive stuff.  Wonder why it is being leaked now. More importantly, will anything come of it? 

77 Don't you think that would be a far savvier thing to have said last night than to double down on "Ponzi Scheme"? Nope, because thats what it is. Perry is appreciated for his no nonsense talk. He doesn't need to change that. I think his tough words and direct approach are the traits that most seperates him from Romney.

78

CoolCzech,

Your criticism of Perry's performance is not too far off, but too, he had the most riding on his performance and if you think about it, he was taking fire on all fronts... and he was obviously tired .

I'll say this;  I think the decision to sink or swim on SS being a ponzi scheme is a winner.  People are going to respect straight talk... at least conservatives are.  It's time to tell it like it is because this election is different.  IF he can call SS out for what it clearly is ( worse than a ponzi scheme because we have no choice but to contribute) then he and the GOP in the house and senate will have a clear signal from the public to tackle it.

This will be a big election... time for the debate on what kind of country we are and will be.  Not normal get-along move to the center stuff.... and that's just my take.  I look forward to a better performance from Perry next debate.

79 Do you think Huntsman showered after Brian Williams's tongue-bath, or do you think he went to bed with it on and touched himself?

Posted by: Gregory of Yardale at September 08, 2011 07:59 AM (PLvL)

EWWWWW!

Glad to see you back Vic.

80 Glad to see you back Vic.

Good to be back.

81 SS is worse than a Ponzi scheme.  It's an unsupportable financial pyramid with mandatory contributions.  It's outright theft.  He needed to complete his answer by saying no old folks get cuts and young folks start getting more options or else the lefty media will sound bite his ass to death.

I'll cut Perry some slack, though, because he was dealing with other shit (the fires) instead of debate prep and it's clear the mods were laying in ambush (two questions in particular - (1) re: military adventurism, either expressly take a dump on George Bush and tell us how he fucked everything up overseas, or do so implicitly by telling us what you'd have done differently, and (2) re: global warming, name some scientists you're relying on for disagreeing with us - seriously, you mutherfuckers?  Ok fine, right after you tell me the President of Zanzibar, Brian) ....

82 This is why we are broke.

The federal government has decided that the best use of funds is for free food for everyone!

83 Republican Debate Transcript (NYTimes)

Right out of the box, Brian Williams blames Bush for the economy:

" A majority of people in this country now believe the Republican policies of the first eight years of the past decade are responsible for the economic mess we're in."

84

I still cannot understand why a hispanic moderator had to be trotted out to ask questions about illegal immigration.  Was that supposed to intimidate the candidates?  A lame attempt to "moderate" their answers?

I mean, it would be like Brian Williams announcing that the next question concerns welfare reform..............and then from behind a curtain with the theme song from Shaft playing..................a black moderator is trotted out. 

I just found it strange.  And demeaning toward hispanics. 

 

 

85 A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and among his own relatives and in his own household.

Gabe, you forgot about the dog.

86 Regarding the broad protesting Cheney's book event: she does know that he isn't VP anymore; right?

87 From this article and previous commentary through the years, I believe the conspiracy to attack America goes to the highest levels of the Saudi Government. Not to suggest they were complicit in the details, but I will suggest they possessed information that could have thwarted the attack. I think those Ideas of a saudi conspiracy have swirled for a long time. But what can you do? Destroy the Monarchy? Put Radical muzzies in charge? Tripoli will be Mogadishu in a couple of months because nobody bothered to think shit through. If there was a conspiracy from the House of Saud, I don't think it was the old man anyway. It prolly would be one of the Coked up princes.

88 The federal government has decided that the best use of funds is for free food for everyone!

Posted by: Lord Monochromicorn at September 08, 2011 08:14 AM (yOz65)

They did the same thing here, and even continued the program through the Summer! But keep in mind that the federal government doesn't pay for all of this. This State and local taxpayer has to contribute as well.

And yet, the school screamed about budget cuts for "education" when they have to balance the budget. We already contribute money for food stamps and WIK so WTF doe we need the schools funding meals for?

Are these "poor" moms to lazy to pack a lunch for their children?

89 Don't you think that would be a far savvier thing to have said last night than to double down on "Ponzi Scheme"?

Posted by: CoolCzech at September 08, 2011 08:00 AM (niZvt)

I don't know.  I'm tired of this third rail horseshit that's been driven by the MFM donk enablers and would like to think that the voters are smarter than you would think given that they elected a SCoaMF.  Maybe I'm wrong and we're really getting the government we truly deserve.  I sure as fuck don't think young voters are counting on social security for anything; most of them I run into are far savvier on the unsustainability of it than the dumbfuck bluehairs who vote for Debbie Fatass Slutz and are planning on it not being available for them.  Of course that doesn't include the lowlifes and crackheads who will never do a responsible thing in their hopefully short and miserable lives who plan on sucking off the government tit just like their worthless parents, at least one of which they don't even know.  At some time in the future, young people will say "fuck this shit" as far as supporting a bunch of codgers who didn't do a fucking thing for them and will sell them off for target practice or pet food.

90 Posted by: Vic is back at September 08, 2011 08:10 AM (M9Ie6)

You missed the debate on the proper term for the unpleasantness of 1861-1865.

It came down to:

1. The War of The Rebellion
2. General Sherman's Southern Vacation.

Which would you prefer?

91 3 old sp, Yeah ever find yourself wishing Ogabe had to have FCoulter as a moderator? Asshole newsies

92 WTF Gretchen? Interview a Dem for a Republican debate?  

That accounts for who counts.

Vic, glad you're getting up and about again.

93 I just found it strange.  And demeaning toward hispanics.

Demeaning minorities instead of treating them like equals is what the left is all about.  The Dems need the poor, stupid victims who elected them to stay poor, stupid victims in order to keep their power.

94

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 08, 2011 08:17 AM (ZDUD4)

 

I guess we have to ask "who benefitted" from 9-11?  The Saudis sure did. Sure, we drank a cup of coffee in Afghanistan, but then immediatly set our sights on ousting Saddam.  I know the Saudis were VERY concerned for years that Saddam would make a move on the kingdom. 

Saudis aren't worried anymore. 

95 Posted by: Blacksheep at September 08, 2011 08:20 AM (mh8Iu)

And the teacher's unions are one of their main weapons in the fight to keep minorities passive and on the government teat.

96 vic so glad you are back!

97 Which would you prefer?

To avoid the flame war.

98 Demeaning minorities instead of treating them like equals is what the left is all about.  The Dems need the poor, stupid victims who elected them to stay poor, stupid victims in order to keep their power.

Posted by: Blacksheep at September 08, 2011 08:20 AM (mh8Iu)

Bingo, plus MSLSD had to trot out a minority to prove that their staff isn't as white as a North Dakota blizzard.  I'm just surprised it wasn't Rick Sanchez.

99

From an objective point of view Newt Gringrinch won the debate. He was in command of the facts and could communicate clear actions to remedy problems. Further, he could successfully control the moderators. That said, I don't think he wins the nomination. He would make an exceptional VP though.

Romney came off as palatable, but not believable. Huntsman is a diplomat, which makes him quality TeeVee personality. Again, there seems to be no serious conviction - its all style over substance. Perry looked rigid and communicated poorly. Given that he was the target of the moderators and other candidates his stiffness is explainable - but none the less his performance could have been better. Bachman is done. Please someone tell the others to just go away - Ron Paul cranky old man easily baited into lunancy by the moderators - Caine 9-9-9 is not a serious contender - Santorum looks a little dim but performs well.

Fianl analysis Perry, Romney and possibly Gringrinch. Perry wins Iowa - Romney takes NH and then the show goes to SC for a decision. From a pure stage presence and ability to tap dance I give Gringrinch kudos. Perry/Romney both look uncomfortable and unsure. Just sayin. Torch away.

100 Once again, glad to be back and thanks to all for the thoughts and prayers.

101 105 CBD, Ensaved collectivism can't work without half-assed instructors in a state controled trust teaching that wonderfully toxic mix of white guilt and racial rage.

102 Welcome back Vic!!!!! Hope you are doing well, and feeling better! Very happy to see you back this morning!

103 Saudis aren't worried anymore. Good point, But now they shit themselves over Iran. Them Sunnis and Shiites are kind of the Hatfields and McCoys.

104 Welcome back Vic. Missed you here all week.

105 Saudis aren't worried anymore. Posted by: Spiker at September 08, 2011 08:21 AM (Y227l) Sure they are. They are scared shit of Iran

106 Vic,

Hope you are feeling better Brother, and I hope you are ok.

107 Welcome back Vic. Missed you here all week. Posted by: grease monkey at September 08, 2011 08:27 AM (VSWPU) Same here

108 If Perry wins Iowa that will hit Bachmann hard. She will be forced to win SC at that point. The same thing can be said of Romney and NH. NH is a make or break for him, not because of the votes but because it is a "home State" for him. Losing it will be a mortal blow.

And I still think SC will depend on the endorsements of DeMint and Haley.

109 78 OSP, Not with quef olberdouche's crank.....that said it'd be about the same level of pro ehics levied...... When will the GOP learn.....they ain't our friends fellas?

110

Posted by: Sub-Tard at September 08, 2011 08:24 AM (0M3AQ)

Actually, that sounds about right.

Oh, and welcome back Vic.

111 Again, thanks all.

112 115

Bingo, plus MSLSD had to trot out a minority to prove that their staff isn't as white as a North Dakota blizzard. I'm just surprised it wasn't Rick Sanchez.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 08, 2011 08:24 AM (RKzwg)

The dude was on loan from Telemundo. NBC doesn't have any Messicans.

 

Pander fest. Who the hell was the mexican and why couldn't Williams and that slowtard next to him ask the same question? Does this mean MSM will invite Constitutional conservatives to ask questions of Sparky concerning his malfeasance in office since they are not genetically blessed with white guy logic?

113

It isn't poll or debate related, but definitely moron worthy:

http://tinyurl.com/3fc3qlr

114 "That is explosive stuff. Wonder why it is being leaked now. More importantly, will anything come of it?" I saw a video report about this on TV years ago. I don't watch much TV, so it might have been on YouTube. As I recall, that racebaiting little shit, John Quinones, was doing the report, but I might be wrong about that.

115 And welcome back Vic.

116 He would make an exceptional VP though.

If Newt could keep his outsized ego under control, this would be true; but I'm not sure he could.  Newt always has to be thought of as the smartest person in the room; kind of like Biden with a functioning cortex.  Cheney was great as a VP because he always deferred to GWB even when he obviously disagreed with him and just now is letting people get a clue about that.  You'd need the world's biggest cork with Newt.  He'd be better as a cabinet member although even then he might be a disaster with his tireless need for attention.  Newt is better just spouting shit than actually governing.

117

Morning all!   Well, I managed to fall asleep and completely miss the debate last night. *facepalm*   My father watched a bit of it but gave up when it became clear the moderators were only going to keep trying to turn the candidates against each other instead of letting them speak to the failed policies of the SCOAMF's administration.  Not surprising really, but still irritating.  I'd ask who won, but I think I'll try and decide that myself if I can find archived video of the debate somewhere.  It was on NBC, right?  Or was it MSNBC?

118 127, An Arkansas weatherman didn't predict he would wake up in a hot tub with a naked dead man, but that's exactly what police say happened. That's a well written first sentence.

119 127 read the comments.......was laughing all afternoon yesterday

120

Posted by: nevergiveup at September 08, 2011 08:28 AM (i6RpT)

 

Agreed.  I should have clarified...............not worried about Saddam.

121 Welcome back, Vic!  Rest up and take care of yourself, ne? 

122 one comment was......he is not on air as he is mourning the loss of his friend......illegal drugs, alcohol hot tub and a dead body....you'd think he'd off the air because he lost his job.........

123

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 08, 2011 08:33 AM (RKzwg)

 

That's a very good take on Gingrich.  I thought he did great last night(I had him and Romney winning the debate)but I just don't like his condescending attitude.

124 Hello.. My name is Ron Paul.. I'm running for president.. I want you to take me seriously...

"You can buy a gallon of gas for a silver dime."

125 ..."clever" media hosts direct questioning of their own predestined "frontrunners" Romney and Perry to monopole time, sidelining the "insignificant" candidates. pff.

Teh funny, Romney near the conclusion, back at his Obamanesque "promise anything, just get their votes" antic that didn't win him the '08 ticket: "Anyone making less than $200K won't have to pay taxes" '12 campaign promise.

Cain smacked that down with his "999 Tax Plan" that doesn't resort to Romney's presidential exemptionalism.

Again, Bachmann's supposed expertise was AWOL over the IRS and tax debate. So much for her "biological children" as distinct from the others who at this point being segregated by her are nearing a typecast as if "Non-biological" /androids/. Then Mitt had to brag about his adopted children entering America legally, to one-up the foster parent candidate. Sheesh.

Romney's lame kick the ObamaCare can down the road ploy was as pathetic as his former claim to being a luckless and unskilled hunter of varmints. Before, he used "executive order" as what he'd issue his first day in the Oval Office, but last night it was revised as "exemptions for all 50 states". Even Perry's response would not effectively eliminate ObamaCare, but leave it's roots intact rather than uprooted.

It's a crying shame that Newt Gingrich sold out to phony science and corrupt opportunism. That guy can lead the politicians and media by their noses and kick ass.

I notice that the hosting MSNBC poll, like the FOX poll after debate, shows the "winner" is clearly Ron Paul leading.

126 139 Hello.. My name is Ron Paul.. I'm running for president.. I want you to take me seriously... "You can buy a gallon of gas for a silver dime." Posted by: franksalterego at September 08, 2011 08:41 AM (7/sDI) I really think it's time for the other candidates to INSIST that Paul not be allowed up on stage. Definitely, by the time it's clearly a two man race, Perry and Romney need to insist that the debate include only them. Paul is like a Democrat plot to discredit Republicans.

127 monopole

luv it

128 anyone see the monica lewinsky story on drudge....

129

That's a very good take on Gingrich.  I thought he did great last night(I had him and Romney winning the debate)but I just don't like his condescending attitude.

Posted by: Spiker at September 08, 2011 08:40 AM (Y227l)

The thing I've noted about Newt from past debates, and it sounds like it was true again last night, is he's a great attack dog to call the newsies on their BS.  I think he's at a point where he honestly doesn't give a shit and will happily tell the bastards to get the hell off his lawn.  I don't think he's Presidential material, but if he could keep his overinflated ego in check he WOULD be a great talk show host. 

130 Bingo, plus MSLSD had to trot out a minority to prove that their staff isn't as white as a North Dakota blizzard. I'm just surprised it wasn't Rick Sanchez. Posted by: Captain Hate at September 08, 2011 08:24 AM (RKzwg) President Perry needs to have that questioner tracked down and deported. BTW, he looked at least as white as any southern Italian.

131

"An Arkansas weatherman didn't predict he would wake up in a hot tub with a naked dead man, but that's exactly what police say happened"

 

Hot tub didn't even have water in it!  What an amatuer!   .

132

"I've woken up with a stiff one but never in a hot tub."

133 145 anyone see the monica lewinsky story on drudge.... Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 08, 2011 08:44 AM (eOXTH) Is it fapworthy?

134 I really think it's time for the other candidates to INSIST that Paul not be allowed up on stage. Definitely, by the time it's clearly a two man race, Perry and Romney need to insist that the debate include only them. Damn CC, watch the whole show, don't fast forward to the end.

135 Hey Vic, glad you are back!
How are you doing?

136 @148: as long as he didn't wake up with his dork in the body... it's OK.

137 Posted by: Fish the Impaler at September 08, 2011 08:39 AM (Lt/Za)

Strange how if Texas is such a hell hole people keep showing up here from all over the country.  I literally cannot remember the last time I heard someone say "I'm moving from Texas to [any other state] for a better job."

Perry's best line of attack on this front is comparisons between Texas and Illinois, which Obama & Co. fucked up royally.  During the general this line of reasoning can be expanded: "If what you are saying is true, Barry, then how come every state in the Union enjoying that magical combination of Democratic politicians and labor union leadership has had its economy driven into the ground?"

138 Race For Weiner Seat Turns Into Nasty Bashfest On Obama... HaHa, All my mind saw was one of those movies with a Dildo nailed to a chair. Oh, I mean someone told me about that before.

139

SuperRick was tired from fighting the raging blazes bare handed, but he's not too tired to stay in Cali for some fundraisers.

He'll be raising less than he hoped after last night.  Tampa upcoming is not going to be any better for him.

He didnt do poorly because he was tired, he did poorly because he lacks shrewedness and agility.

Perry's plan was to sweep to a coronation with a blitzkreig roll out that would demoralize Romney and preclude Palin from running, hopefully even securing her endorsement to finish off Mitt.  This way, it would be over before Perry's multiple deficiencies became manifest in the course of a regular campaign.

This bluff has now fallen apart with Palin's attacks over Labor Day and Mitt's superior performance last night.

The ol Cowpoke is going to have to slug it out now, and its not going to go well.  Its already not going well, the Perry push polls notwithstanding.

He's opened mutiple lines of attack on himself and will remain on the defensive. 

 

140

anyone see the monica lewinsky story on drudge....

 

Yes.  Looks like she treating her loneliness with a steady diet of bon bons.

 

141 Yes. Looks like she treating her loneliness with a steady diet of bon bons. Posted by: Ted Kennedy at September 08, 2011 08:48 AM (Y227l) That's a shame, because she really IS a pretty gal when she slims down.

142 157 SuperRick was tired from fighting the raging blazes bare handed, but he's not too tired to stay in Cali for some fundraisers. I can believe that, but the bottom line is, unfortunately all the excellent excuses in the world don't really cut it. He MUST do better next time, MUCH better. And stay away from colorful language that becomes the center of discussion, instead of the real issue... like Social Security facing bankruptcy. I say all this out of love... I REALLY wanted him to do great last night.

143

The first sentence in this Reuters story is just... It's almost self-parody at this point.

New jobless claims rise to 414,000 last week

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - New U.S. jobless claims rose unexpectedly last week, further evidence of a weak labor market just hours before President Barack Obama delivers a major address to Congress on the issue.

Applications for unemployment benefits rose to 414,000 in the week ending September 3 from an upwardly revised 412,000 the prior week, the Labor Department said on Thursday. Wall Street analysts had been looking for a dip to 405,000...

 

144

The Lewinsky story is really a grrek tragedy.  She had everything going for her...

 

But she blew it.

145 Try the fish!

146 anyone see the monica lewinsky story on drudge.... Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 08, 2011 08:44 AM (eOXTH) yes

147 I can only imagine what a complete psycho Lewinski is after the public humiliation she's been through.  If she wasn't such a mindless tramp still hoping Clinton will call her after Hillary! finally leaves him I'd feel sorry for her.  As it is, I'd probably just hit it, abuse her credit and then never call her just to keep the inevitable cycle of abuse going.

148 Welcome back Vic.
Let's go and call out some damyankees!
At some point in your life, you really need to listen to the docs!

I was sorry to see Perry stumble on the AWG topic, but I thought he got in a good line regarding Galileo facing an anti-science crowd.  Next time, I sure hope he has really prepped for this as well as other topics.
I appreciate Perry not taking Rove's advice and calling out SS as a Ponzi scheme, but he needs a follow-up line, for example, pointing out the (Republican) Ryan plans approach to a SS transition purposefully did not hurt seniors or near seniors

149 anyone see the monica lewinsky story on drudge.... Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 08, 2011 08:44 AM (eOXTH) She wasn't much more than a Kid when she went through all that shit. I actually felt bad for her. Clinton should have been called out for the Scummy F*ck he really was.

150

That's a shame, because she really IS a pretty gal when she slims down.

 

I think it's sad she can't find a guy.  She doesn't deserve that.  Just another trashed life left in Slick Willie's wake.  And yet, Lib women still love the guy. 

151 Clinton--the first SCOAMF!

152 Welcome back, Vic. The headline threads were teh suck without your morning gloom. I wish you a speedy recovery. Also, I laughed at "General Sherman's southern vacation."

153 162 The Lewinsky story is really a grrek tragedy. She had everything going for her... But she blew it. Posted by: Chuck Z at September 08, 2011 08:52 AM (OITDh) *GROAN!*

154 I appreciate Perry not taking Rove's advice and calling out SS as a Ponzi scheme, but he needs a follow-up line, for example, pointing out the (Republican) Ryan plans approach to a SS transition purposefully did not hurt seniors or near seniors

This.  This was my biggest contention with him last night.  He did okay, but I really wanted to see him be able to throw out some basic framework of a plan on what he wants to see happen to SS.  His AGW answer was woefully unprepared, and again shows his need to be able to pull some facts out to substantiate why he thinks what he thinks. 

155 Tom Friedman on CNBC this morning begging someone, anyone, to run on a third party ticket. Obama is toast and he knows it.  The only way he wins is if a third party siphons enough votes away from republicans.  These libs are really pathetic.

156 A fatal shooting on my block last night. I heard the shots lying in bed. From the wailing mourners and combative onlookers, I presume it was a gangsta-on-gangsta ambush. Twenty cops scoured the block for evidence, and planted two tiny tents in front of our house. Ejected brass, or discarded incriminating drugs perhaps? He must have been dead as he fell, as EMTs made only a token inspection and left the body in the rain for two hours. Lots of neighbors watching from their front windows, but no police canvass.

On a morning where most of Philly's main arteries are flooded out by another two inches of rain overnight, a mere murder doesn't make the morning news. Nothing on any local news sites. School closings, suspended trains, entertainment chit-chat. Our house crime watcher says that unless there's an innocent civilian victim or police involvement, thugcrimes get the silent treatment.

I expect there'll be a candles-and-teddybears memorial by the time I return home this evening.

157 I agree 100% with all the comments about Newt above. His day in the Sun is long past and it is time for him to drop out of the race.

He did perform one useful thing last night and that was to take a dump on the MFM. But the harm he is doing is more than the good. Tat is all besides the fact that he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nod.

That sit-down on the couch with Pelosi for the AGW fraud signed his political death warrant.

158 At some point in your life, you really need to listen to the docs!

Amen brother. All you Morons and 'ettes out there who are in the 50s and above who haven't had your 'innards examined yet, please go down and get it done now. Don't wait until its too late the way I did.

That exam is not bad at all and the "pre-day" prep really isn't that bad either. Just be prepared to spend an afternoon in the bathroom. But that is much dam better than a week in hospital hell followed by who knows what.

159 Newt can throw words around like the silver tongued orator he is, unfortunately, that is his only redeeming feature.
Drop Huntsman, Paul, Newt, and Santorum to get to a dynamic debate field.

160 She wasn't much more than a Kid when she went through all that shit. I actually felt bad for her. Clinton should have been called out for the Scummy F*ck he really was.

Posted by: Oldsailor's poet at September 08, 2011 08:56 AM (ZDUD4)

Exactly.  Her father must be a complete POS, first for putting her in the situation she was in (which means he was a *major* donk contributer) and then not wanting to go after Clenis with gelding shears after she was made an international story.  And to hell with all the wimmen's groups for not raising the roof about that; you can't find a more pronounced "disparity of power" that they're usually yammering about like a bunch of witless crones.

161 "I expect there'll be a candles-and-teddybears memorial by the time I return home this evening. " And the inevitable testimony from friends and family on how he was a good kid who was getting his life turned around ever since he became a father.

162 Rick Perry sez:

“Michael Dukakis created jobs three times faster than you did, Mitt.”

Romney should have said: The government doens't create jobs, it taxes and spends.

163 176 I agree 100% with all the comments about Newt above. His day in the Sun is long past and it is time for him to drop out of the race.

He did perform one useful thing last night and that was to take a dump on the MFM. But the harm he is doing is more than the good. Tat is all besides the fact that he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nod.

That sit-down on the couch with Pelosi for the AGW fraud signed his political death warrant.
  Vic, yesterday I would have agreed with you. Today not so much. Newt brings alot to the table. If I am asked to forgive Romney for Romneycare or Newt for attempting bi-partisanship with a looney old lady, I am going to go with Newt. Newt has DC experience, knows where the bodies are buried and has demonstrated legislative, political and management success in a very tough town. Further, he has success in turning a libtard's mess into a governing coalition that achieved welfare reform and a balanced budget. No one else on that panel has anything close to these achievements. Now, he is a putz in many ways, but looking down the list of alternatives, we have many putzes to select from. If Perry had done better I would still be looking to him. From what I've seen it looks like Romney - Newt - and possibly Huntsman. Of those three I'll take Newt for the simple reason that he can pimpslap media and build coalitions. Everyone else struck me as merely slick and nervous.

164 I see they are catching 2,300 pound Krocagators in the Philippines. Can we import some for our moat around the Southern border?

165
5 Abraham Lincoln was the best president ever.

He instituted a draft. He instituted an income tax. He used Federal troops to put down draft riots. He exiled a Democrat newspaper man to the Confederacy. Naturally, they thought he was a spy, so he ended up in Canada.

Modern libs would have been beside themselves...

166

CHICAGO (CBS) — The head of a local Islamic-American organization says that after this year, except for remembering its victims, it’s time for America to move on from the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

As WBBM NewsradioÂ’s Bernie Tafoya reports, Ahmet Rehab of the Chicago chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations says many people still are under the false impression that Islam is a radical religion, and that its believers want to change the U.S. into an Islamic state.

Rehab says the American people should not allow politicians, right-wingers and TV networks make them fear fellow Americans who are Muslim.

 

Over 3,000 dead. Just get over it, okay? It's the evil right wingers who are falsely portraying the religion of peace as a bunch of terrorists. I'm surprised that Ahmet isn't in Barry's administration.

167 Good morning, morons, and especially Vic!

168

When criticism is based entirely on bias, not record or fact, not context, that criticism isn't worth the time it takes to read, let alone reject as fallacious.

"You can buy a gallon of gas for a silver dime."

Who is truthfully calling that a falsehood? Someone's sore about the truth hurting. Rather than be logical, kill the messenger, Gabe's headline "prophet without honor" regurgitating Ron Paul is unacceptable because paultard. No logic used in that emotionally disturbed juvenile outburst. Gangs of thugs don't prove what's right, anyway, so much for "popular" opinion.

In the least amount of time provided, Congressman Paul effectively illustrated his points. America's current problems regard the government's interference in free market, massively spending more than revenue provides, printing fiat "money" that isn't even funny, causing inflation during this Depression.

There is a revival of the Republican ideology (best represented today in the Libertarian/Republican constitutional platform) exercised by Sen.Taft (who'd been assigned to oversee the congressional distribution of American tax funds in Europe after WWI), then Goldwater, and early Reagan (prior to the attempted Reagan assassination, prior to the illegal Iran-Contra Affair exposed by the media, prior to the massive spending that mushroomed America's deficit). Naturally, the establishment enablers --despite claiming to want Constitutional Governance-- have vested interest in maintaining the corrupted status quo, clinging to their own destruction for comfort.

There's twisted irony in people who know exactly the deceits of the MSM, yet feel exonerated in their own submission to those very prejudiced propagandized deceits, as if to protect themselves by belonging to corruption and fraud. The same illustration applies to those in government. Ride that bandwagon heading over the cliff and enjoy the view. There's safety in numbers, especially in too big to fail enterprises.

To counter the revisionism that has effectively merged the Republican establishmentwith the Democrats since 1970 in the "common values" touted by Pelosi, Ron Paul initiated the Tea Party movement and agenda. Give credit where it's due. Admit your own prejudiced obtuse lack of logic. That false rumors are taken for granted to replace truth and fact encourages the demise of civility, as if the world according to Alinsky is all that America may have.

Morons responding with "I don't care what you think" inaccurately presume that I care what they think. Morons hurling "Paulbot" unwilling to exercise reading comprehension to know Ron Paul's writings, take the advise of General Honoré, "Don't stay stuck on Stupid."

169 Vic! Glad you are back! Prayers sent from Floriduh.

170 Welcome back Vic !

171 Glad to see some of you got Romney's talking points memo.

On the SS thing: The FIRST words out of Perry's mouth on the subject was that current beneficiaries would not be impacted by reform. His plan is too "wean" younger workers off a system that will not exist by the time they retire.

He also said that anyone telling you that the SS was ok is a big fat liar. Then Romney opened his mouth and, well, lied.

172 Oh, and welcome back Vic!  We missed you!

173 Amen brother. All you Morons and 'ettes out there who are in the 50s and above who haven't had your 'innards examined yet, please go down and get it done now. Don't wait until its too late the way I did.

Welcome back, Vic!

Just do it! I was lucky and found out I was faced with the 'C' version of DOOM at a relatively early stage. Addressed it promptly and have been free of any traces since -- seven years now.

174 I agree 100% with all the comments about Newt above. His day in the Sun is long past and it is time for him to drop out of the race. He did perform one useful thing last night and that was to take a dump on the MFM. But the harm he is doing is more than the good. Tat is all besides the fact that he doesn't have a chance in hell of getting the nod.

That Newt shoves the MSM shit down the MSM throat is well worth his participation in debates. He likely realizes he isn't going to win. But the only way to participate in the process of developing our Republican agenda platform is through candidacy. Newt's part in dialogue shouldn't be terminated because he's been out of office any more than Reagan's legacy should be terminated since he's dead.

"Trusting" Newt is a fool's game. But when Newt's in form and on the level, he can assimilate a very forceful coalition. And no one else on that stage last night can boast that talent and highly cultivated skill.

I don't think that any of our candidates is doing any harm through participation. On the contrary, this primary season is exactly the proper time for everyone to air their views. Just as once the ticket is set, it is the proper time for the winner to incorporate the best ideas from all in order to solidify effective governance given victory by the coalition of voters.

May the best record win.

175 Posted by: maverick muse at September 08, 2011 09:29 AM

Setting Paul's policy positions aside for a moment, he's simply not a very accomplished member of Congress.  For example, in the 111th Congress, he had one bill he introduced passed -- a bill to make a parcel of land in Galveston an historic district.  That's pretty weak tea for an established Representative.  So what makes you think he'd be a good President? 

176 Drop Huntsman, Paul, Newt, and Santorum to get to a dynamic debate field.

That's funny. Drop debate in order to enhance "dynamic debate".

177

Looks like the SAM warehouse was raided in Libya by who knows who letting thousands of shoulder fired SAMs on the market.

http://tinyurl.com/3j2dco2

 

178 195 Y-Not,

because having a second rate legislator with no executive experience has worked out real well for us these last 3 years?

179 @198
Seriously.  The problem with the Paul supporters is that we're always in the realm of the hypothetical, never in the realm of realities.  They like the idea of a Ron Paul presidency, but have no clue how it would actually shake out.  There's really no evidence that Paul is a leader in any arena that I can see.  I confess I was surprised by the results on GovTrack.  He hasn't had a bill he introduced enacted in years (aside from the pork project to Galveston). 

180 Posted by: Y-not at September 08, 2011 09:42 AM (5H6zj)

You're at it assbackwards.

As with Sen. Fred Thompson, I don't base support for a politician on how many pieces of legislation that politician sponsored and passed.

No surprise, you do, as if more laws is what America needs.

Until you've read one of Ron Paul's books, or at least viewed one of his entire speeches, you're willfully ignorant as to what his record represents and what his views are, and why.

Of all the candidates, including Newt, Ron Paul is the most well read and logical, and the best representation of the American Renaissance Man.

As to the debate last night, perhaps Bachmann fell shortest the mark. It isn't that she doesn't deliver her lines effectively. The problem rests in her lines.

181

Good to hear you made it through surgery Vic.Hope you continue to make progress.   Right wingers continue to be pushed further to the edges of society. We are vulnerable and almost off the cliff.

Perry (conservative) and Romney (independent/centrist) seem to be the leaders.

182 Welcome back Vic!

Was at beach last week and turns out Perry stayed at our development when he came down to speak in Conway. Wifey saw his car and found out from security who it was, we are in a gated community, near G town,  Vic you can figure it out.

I gave out 10 Perry stickers in Georgetown, people saw mine and asked me where I got them. 

A good sign.  Perry will win SC going away.

183 Hi, I am Rick Perry.

We kill killers in Texas, got that?

Don't mess with Texas.

184 I like Ron Whites better, "If you kill in Texas we'll kill you back".

185 Welcome back Vic, thoughts and prayers good sir.

186 The problem with the Paul supporters is that we're always in the realm of the hypothetical, never in the realm of realities.  They like the idea of a Ron Paul presidency, but have no clue how it would actually shake out.

Teh funny, nothing hypothetical about Perry and Mitt, nothing wrong with that glass house realm of realities.

Again, you are clueless as to "how it would actually shake out" whether granted your wish or not.

187 Vic,

One more thing. Remember after you're rehab, be easy on the Jack, you will get a buzz after a single shot!

188 Posted by: 'Nam Grunt at September 08, 2011 10:00 AM (8MjTd)

That's "good morning" in Texican, ex-Tex.

189 208,

Never an ex Texan I still own property there and I'm just a step away from the stateline.

190 Vic,

I'll bet your better half is glad you're home!

Take it easy on those innards. When you get back to solids, prefer rice to wheat, avoid corn, to do your system a huge favor while healing. (been there)

191 R.I.P., Locomotiv Yaroslavl.

192 209 I know.

193 212,

Hey darlin' how are you and the old man doing?

194

Morons responding with "I don't care what you think" inaccurately presume that I care what they think.

 

For someone who doesn't care about what we think of Ron Paul you sure are expending a lot of bandwidth defending him. 

Paul is getting the opportunity to make his case to the American people.  The results will be the same as they were in 2008.  You are just going to have to live with that.

195 A good sign.  Perry will win SC going away.

Posted by: Billy Bob, the guy who drinks in SC at September 08, 2011 09:57 AM (vSiVD)

I think he will as well, but as I said early, a low depends on those Haley and DeMint endorsements.

196 213 Well, and hoping you, too. He's working too hard. But then, thank God for work.

197 One more thing. Remember after you're rehab, be easy on the Jack, you will get a buzz after a single shot!

I heard that yesterday as well. Also, I asked the doctor specifically about alcohol. He said that although it would not hurt per-se, it would be better to avoid it for now.

I told wifey I would avoid it for now.

198 Posted by: Spiker at September 08, 2011 10:14 AM (Y227l)

Certainly, expect nothing and avoid disappointment.

Now, show your argument against what he said last night, that the value of a silver dime covers the cost of a gallon of gas today.

199 Enough's enough.
till later

200 @217

Shit Vic, no alcohol, no intestines.

I am thinking you are going to be losing some weight.

I guess that is a good thing?

201 Shit Vic, no alcohol, no intestines.

I am thinking you are going to be losing some weight.

I have already lost about 10 pounds in the last week. And he didn't say "no alcohol". He said I should avoid it for now, mainly because it and chemo do not go together well.

202

Best wishes Vic from an always lurker sometimes (rarely) poster from Down Under

Good to see you back, I always enjoy your news summaries especially as my daughter and her hubby will be moving to the US in a couple of months so I need to know what they're getting into!

 

203 LOL the longshoreman union are up to their usual tricks.


Kidnapping and false imprisonment? 

Fine with the police I guess.

204 newt |n(y)oōt|
noun
a small, slender-bodied amphibian with lungs and a well-developed tail, typically spending its adult life on land and returning to water to breed

205 More on Solyndra at Zero Hedge and the Democrat money trail.

"one entity . . . somehow had managed to get priority interest to subordinated government loans to the tune of $528 million in government funding: Argonaut Ventures, and specifically one George Kaiser who just happens to be a material fund-raiser for the president."

206 Obama is a stuttering clusterf*ck of a miserable failure.

207 The Tea Party is full of racist white men. They want to kill all the plants and animals.

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