February 10, 2011

Trump at CPAC: "I'm sorry, Ron Paul can't be elected."
— Gabriel Malor

Donald Trump made a surprise appearance at CPAC this afternoon, after accepting the invitation of GOProud to appear. Trump is supposedly exploring a presidential run (a serious one).

During his speech, he managed to rile the unfortunately large crowd of Ronulans that Ron Paul bussed in for the straw poll.

“By the way, Ron Paul cannot get elected, I’m sorry to tell you,” Trump said. “I like Ron Paul, I think he’s a good guy but honestly he just has zero chance of getting elected.”. Video at that link.

Note: the Ronulans have consistently been the most classless group here. They repeatedly interrupted Cheney's introduction of Rumsfeld with shouts of "war criminal", "where's bin Laden", "draft dodger", and (reportedly) "show us the Shekels."

Posted by: Gabriel Malor at 12:40 PM | Comments (140)
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1 I thought ZeroHedge was unusually quiet today.

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 12:42 PM (S59+B)

2 Ronulans classless assbags?  The deuce you say!

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2011 12:42 PM (eh+ki)

3 He told them twice that Ron Paul can't be president.

Neither can Donald trump. What the purpose of this speech was I have no clue.

Posted by: Rocks at February 10, 2011 12:42 PM (Q1lie)

4 God damn Ron Paul people

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade at February 10, 2011 12:43 PM (wuv1c)

5 People are saying the Ronulans are the new LaRouchites. Eh. I'd say they're the first real Droogs. Give 'em a kick in the yarbles.

Posted by: Enochf at February 10, 2011 12:43 PM (ZbtIh)

6 oh and RON PAUL!

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade at February 10, 2011 12:44 PM (wuv1c)

7

Is there a "main" website/blog that the Ron Paul people use? I'd like to go mock the shit out of them.

Posted by: Lincolntf at February 10, 2011 12:44 PM (xMT+4)

8 Gee, wouldn't it be just awful if people were to start heckling Ron Paul's next speech?

Posted by: goldbricker esq at February 10, 2011 12:46 PM (S59+B)

9 Paultards classless?  The next thing you know, some dumbass will say that the Muslim Brotherhood is secular and peaceful.

Oh, wait...

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 10, 2011 12:46 PM (iBaup)

10 It's time to stop focusing on what divides us as conservatives and concentrate on what unites us...disgust with Paultards.

If we're purging anyone, I say let's start there.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 10, 2011 12:47 PM (HicGG)

11 That's the problem with Ron Paul:  he comes with a lot of douchebaggage.

Posted by: Steve the Pirate at February 10, 2011 12:47 PM (W54Uh)

12 Are any of the cob-loggers at CPAC?

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade at February 10, 2011 12:48 PM (wuv1c)

13 Ron Paul 2012!

Posted by: qs at February 10, 2011 12:48 PM (FbCum)

14 RON PAUL!

Posted by: the guy who yells "RON PAUL!" ironically at February 10, 2011 12:48 PM (VC56G)

15 Damn, I'm sorry I missed that.  Popcorn worthy.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 12:48 PM (UOM48)

16 Shekels, schmekels ... it's the U.S taxpayer dollars going to support dictators and wealthy countries that is the issue.

Posted by: Chuckit at February 10, 2011 12:48 PM (w4t7/)

17 Note: the Ronulans have consistently been the most classless group here.

Shocked, shocked etc.

Posted by: your winnings, sir at February 10, 2011 12:49 PM (GTbGH)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at February 10, 2011 12:49 PM (UOM48)

19 It's time to stop focusing on what divides us as conservatives and concentrate on what unites us...disgust with Paultards.

If we're purging anyone, I say let's start there.

Posted by: DrewM. at February 10, 2011 04:47 PM (HicGG)


There's no need to. The only place they ever make an impact and end up being distracting is at CPAC.

Posted by: Rocks at February 10, 2011 12:49 PM (Q1lie)

20 Are any of the cob-loggers at CPAC?

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade

Or knob-gobblers? We're not picky.

Posted by: Z Ryan at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (FjmSl)

21 Paultards suck.

Posted by: BUZZ at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (EsuvG)

22

There's no need to. The only place they ever make an impact and end up being distracting is at CPAC.

an online polls, don't forget online polls

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (wuv1c)

23
Sounds like a convention for losers and shitheads.

Posted by: microsoothsayer at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (uFokq)

24

Let me second Rocks comment "neither can Trump".  Having said that Ron Paul's first run put some important issues on the table.  Paul knew he couldn't run, but did so out of a dedication to his poltical philosophy.

Trump is running without an coherent political philosophy out of a dedication to his ego.

Who's the bigger loser?

BTW: Ron Paul has left a trail of humans he helped birth behind him.  Trump has left a trail of people who got screwed when he used bankruptcy law to discharge his debts.  

But, he is right about Ron Paul not being elected.   Only Mitt, Huck or Paling can win the nomination and possibly  be elected, everyone else is running VP - but they don't know it.

Posted by: Jackson at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (eDJf1)

25

an online polls, don't forget online polls

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Freedom Brigade at February 10, 2011 04:50 PM (wuv1c)


yes, those are critical.

Posted by: Rocks at February 10, 2011 12:50 PM (Q1lie)

26 I thought ZeroHedge was unusually quiet today.

Nice, and the first comment even.

Posted by: toby928™: Popular Front for the Liberation of logprof at February 10, 2011 12:51 PM (GTbGH)

27 As i heard elsewhere, at least Trump knows how to declare bankruptcy, so he's got that going for him. It could be a helpful skill set for an American president

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Soviet Republic at February 10, 2011 12:51 PM (wuv1c)

28 Sounds like we need to send around Ace's crack wedgie commandos for some anti-Paultard revenge operations.

Posted by: joncelli at February 10, 2011 12:52 PM (RD7QR)

29 Cheney and Rumfeld sucked up, but Rand Paul's speech was awesome.

Posted by: qs at February 10, 2011 12:52 PM (FbCum)

30 That was an excellent bitch slap.

Posted by: Judge of Bitch Slaps at February 10, 2011 12:52 PM (YZISw)

31 As i heard elsewhere, at least Trump knows how to declare bankruptcy, so he's got that going for him. It could be a helpful skill set for an American president

Posted by: Ben of the Logprof Soviet Republic at February 10, 2011 04:51 PM (wuv1c)

Yes but just think what he will do to the decor of the White House. Gold plating those pillars is going to be very tacky.

Posted by: Rocks at February 10, 2011 12:53 PM (Q1lie)

32 I'm in, I'm in, amen...

Posted by: wang dang doodle at February 10, 2011 12:53 PM (tXbf1)

33 Ron Paul is Jimmy Carter on foreign affairs.

Posted by: FlaviusJulius at February 10, 2011 12:54 PM (SJ6/3)

34 Gee I see dangerous seas ahead

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 12:54 PM (0GFWk)

35

I will say that I agree with a lot of what the guy says w/r/t domestic issues and some of what he says w/r/t foreign policy BUT the crazy quotient among his base is pretty high. Their cultish behavior is a real turn off.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at February 10, 2011 12:54 PM (JxMoP)

36 Paul Ryan is up now speaking about the American ideal.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 10, 2011 12:56 PM (iMgAa)

37 BTW it says an awful lot about Chris Barron and why he left  the Log Cabin Republicans, despite them having the same goals and mission as GOProud, to setup shop on his own  when he says he would love to see Donald trump elected President. I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump as President of my Condo Association.

Posted by: Rocks at February 10, 2011 12:56 PM (Q1lie)

38 Fact is Ron Paul and his followers are dangerous. They can be very radical and could very well form a third party, fracture the Republican Party, and put Obama who has shown his utter incompetence in this Egypt crisis back in the White House and that would be a catastrophy

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 12:57 PM (0GFWk)

39 The Paulians at my alma mater once took chalk and wrote "REVOLUTION" all over campus, as well as plastering posters on the windows.

Posted by: Miss'80sBaby at February 10, 2011 12:57 PM (iMgAa)

40 Trump is flat out lying to all of you. The guy supports far left democrats like Hillary Clinton and Rahm Emanuel among others. He has said he is pro choice for years, and now all of a sudden is pro life. He is on record saying he supports universal health care! Who will he nominate to the supreme court? The guy is a liberal and has been for decades. Just look at who he has supported for crying out loud. Yet, he is a speaker at CPAC trying to snow conservatives? WTF? This is a sick joke on us. It is beyond stupid for conservatives to entertain this guy at all.

Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 12:58 PM (mXBxH)

41 Sabato wason Fox earlier today talking about how bad it was that Palin was missing the CPAC meeting because that straw poll was important.

I thought about that for 10 seconds and LMAO because I knew the Paulbots would be there and the straw poll wouldn't be worht a shit/

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 01:01 PM (M9Ie6)

42 If elected, President Trump would host a new TV reality show called The Secretary. Each week he would cut one cabinet position and its entire Department. Show ad revenue would go to reduce the deficit. So he's got that working for him.

Posted by: USA at February 10, 2011 01:01 PM (YZISw)

43 What is this guy's path to the nomination?

Posted by: Flapjackmaka at February 10, 2011 01:01 PM (c5RQr)

44 It is beyond stupid for conservatives to entertain this guy at all.

"Conservatives" don't

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 01:01 PM (M9Ie6)

45 Trump is flat out lying to all of you. The guy supports far left democrats like Hillary Clinton and Rahm Emanuel among others. He has said he is pro choice for years, and now all of a sudden is pro life. He is on record saying he supports universal health care! Who will he nominate to the supreme court? The guy is a liberal and has been for decades. Just look at who he has supported for crying out loud. Yet, he is a speaker at CPAC trying to snow conservatives? WTF? This is a sick joke on us. It is beyond stupid for conservatives to entertain this guy at all. Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 04:58 PM (mXBxH) Your probably correct about Trump and throw in that he is unelectable, and I don't know who would take him seriously. But he is right about Paul

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 01:01 PM (0GFWk)

46 The ron paul people are a joke just like daddy paul, but Trump is just lying shamelessly acting like a conservative since he knows he would have to run as a republican to get elected.

Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 01:02 PM (mXBxH)

47 Can Trump and the Paulbots all climb into a very large airplane in a mountainous region amidst terrible weather on an African airline with a drunk and despondent pilot and no TCAS?  Please?

Posted by: GT at February 10, 2011 01:02 PM (Vyrg6)

48 Oh I agree that he is right about paul, but he also said Palin can't win, and I STRONGLY disagree with that. He is just trying to pump himself up by putting on a false front of conservatism.

Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 01:03 PM (mXBxH)

49

Fact is Ron Paul and his followers are dangerous. They can be very radical and could very well form a third party, fracture the Republican Party, and put Obama who has shown his utter incompetence in this Egypt crisis back in the White House and that would be a catastrophy.

Solution? Stay firm about reducing domestic welfare spending and repealing Obamunist care. Co-opt the serious aspects of Ron Paul. Once again:

Where Ron Paul Rules: Domestic policy, spending

Where Ron Paul Sucks: Foreign policy

This rests the case for, and against, Ron Paul.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 01:03 PM (ujg0T)

50 47 Can Trump and the Paulbots all climb into a very large airplane in a mountainous region amidst terrible weather on an African airline with a drunk and despondent pilot and no TCAS?  Please?

I was actually going to suggest a junket with an Uruguayan Rugby team across the Andes.

Posted by: Brandon In Baton Rouge at February 10, 2011 01:04 PM (iBaup)

51 Didn't Trump say the same thing about Palin? Not being electable, that is?

Posted by: Jay in Ames at February 10, 2011 01:05 PM (UEEex)

52 Didn't Trump say the same thing about Palin? Not being electable, that is? Posted by: Jay in Ames at February 10, 2011 05:05 PM (UEEex) Yeah this coming from a guy who has declared bankruptcy a few times not to mention his all his wives and his hair

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 01:07 PM (0GFWk)

53 The Paulian Brotherhood.

Posted by: nickless: I'm with the banned (99.174.64.43) at February 10, 2011 01:07 PM (qdtoY)

54

Didn't Trump say the same thing about Palin? Not being electable, that is?
Posted by: Jay in Ames at February 10, 2011 05:05 PM (UEEex)

Yeah this coming from a guy who has declared bankruptcy a few times not to mention his all his wives and his hair

Trump is a jester. That said, jesters often tell it like it is.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 01:08 PM (ujg0T)

55 It is true that Trump also cannot be elected.  The difference is that there isn't a (small) army of delusional f*cktards who think that he can be.

Posted by: Buzz at February 10, 2011 01:08 PM (i27M5)

56 What is this guy's path to the nomination?

I'm pretty sure it involves eye of newt and swelter'd venom.

Posted by: Waterhouse at February 10, 2011 01:10 PM (Q0w+1)

57 You can't trust Ronoulans.

Posted by: dagny: Free Logprof damnit! at February 10, 2011 01:10 PM (HLFbQ)

58 I won't defend any interruptions, but man, you guys just hate ideological consistency. You want "small government" except in areas you don't.

Posted by: LA Liberty at February 10, 2011 01:10 PM (Ma+GP)

59

I hear Paul had these wild bunga buna parties where all the chicks would gather round the mother ship and yell Ron Paul! He won ever internet poll evahhh!

The headline should read. Trump gives Ron Paul a dirty sanchez at CPAC.

Posted by: BruceTheRobert at February 10, 2011 01:11 PM (h8+SZ)

60 Trump commenting on Ron Paul.

And some are treating all components of that sentence seriously.

Let's move on before I start going all Buford Pussery with this stick, shall we?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2011 01:11 PM (gDbxE)

61 Ron Paul, for those who don't know or don't remember, thinks we deserved everything we got on 9/11.

Fuck Ron Paul absolutely and forever.

Posted by: The War Between the Undead States at February 10, 2011 01:12 PM (FYCiJ)

62

Solution? Stay firm about reducing domestic welfare spending and repealing Obamunist care. Co-opt the serious aspects of Ron Paul. Once again:

Where Ron Paul Rules: Domestic policy, spending

Where Ron Paul Sucks: Foreign policy

This rests the case for, and against, Ron Paul

Tipping the scales in the "against" are his small army of obnoxious retards pulling shit like this at CPAC.

What's the point of bussing in Paulbots this year?  Crazy Uncle Ron isn't going to run again, is he?

At this point I don't care how much I might agree with him on policy.  I just want to see the douche and his idiot supporters go the fuck away.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2011 01:15 PM (SY2Kh)

63

Didn't Trump say the same thing about Palin? Not being electable, that is?

I don't know, but it doesn't take a political genius to recognize the obvious.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2011 01:17 PM (SY2Kh)

64

At this point I don't care how much I might agree with him on policy.  I just want to see the douche and his idiot supporters go the fuck away.

And that is why the GOP must co-opt what is serious about Ron Paul. "LA Liberty" at #58 has a point.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 01:17 PM (ujg0T)

65

I won't defend any interruptions, but man, you guys just hate ideological consistency.

You want "small government" except in areas you don't.

Neither does Ron Paul.  He's not been shy about getting earmarks for his district.

Posted by: Hollowpoint at February 10, 2011 01:19 PM (SY2Kh)

66 Donald Trump made the usual egotists of political sphere look like pikers Thursday in a electrifying speech before the Conservative Political Action Conference that drew cheers, boos, hoots and and applause -- and saw the man know on TV as "The Donald" proclaim himself a holder of conservative values and a potential 2012 presidential contender.

"While I am not at this time a candidate for the presidency, I will decide by June," the wealthy New York businessman said, declaring himself fed up with the way America has become "a whipping post for the world."

Trump laid claim to the mantle of conservatism. "I am pro-life. Against gun control... I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it with something that makes sense to people in business and not bankrupt the country. If I decide to run, I will not be raising taxes. We will be taking in hundreds of billions of dollars from other countries that are screwing us ... and we'll rebuild our country so that we can be proud. Our country will be great again," he said.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:19 PM (T5Brv)

67 FudgePac

Posted by: Barbarian at February 10, 2011 01:20 PM (EL+OC)

68 This is, what, the third or fourth year the paulnuts have tried to take over cpac? Getting more than a little sick of those fuckwits.

Posted by: booger at February 10, 2011 01:22 PM (9RFH1)

69 Ugh. This smells like another Ross Perot style run. Trump is no conservative. And can't possibly be serious. If you want another Obama term, encourage gasbags like Trump. I promise that there will be a 3rd party candidate to try an split the Republican/Conservative/Independent vote. He'll almost certainly be portrayed positively by the MSM. Let's not fall for it. Eyes on the prize people.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2011 01:23 PM (+kzvp)

70 Trump isn't even a Republican much less a conservative. Hell, we can't even call him a RINO because he isn't a Republican in any kind of a label.

As for the paulbots, there should be some kind of a screen at the entrance to CPAC that throws them out. With them around no straw poll is worth a shit anymore.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 01:23 PM (M9Ie6)

71 The Left has the LaRouchians and the Right has the Ronulans.

Posted by: Democratic Underground at February 10, 2011 01:23 PM (VgM+c)

72

You know who Ron Paul supporters remind me of?  Christine O'Donnell supporters.

Yeah, I know.  That was uncalled for.

 

Posted by: Virginia Bob at February 10, 2011 01:25 PM (xh3gA)

73 As Trump took the stage, a person in the standing-room-only crowd shouted "YouÂ’re hired," a play on his reality show tagline of "youÂ’re fired."




On a humorous note, that person was then bludgeoned to death by the rest of the audience....

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:25 PM (T5Brv)

74 By the way, Trump is right about Ron Paul. He can't win......unless... Unless, the Presidency devolves into a three-shootout between the three most gnome-like candidates in American politics. That would be Ron Paul/Dennis Kuncenich(sp?)/Ross Perot. The upside? the winner would sleep under a bridge and eat billygoats!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2011 01:27 PM (+kzvp)

75 On tap for Friday: Gov. Mitch Daniels of Indiana, former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty, Sen. John Thune of South Dakota, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney



Can you feel the electricity in the air....


Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:27 PM (T5Brv)

76

Ron Paul is a tremendous Representative.

Any situation in which he has more than 1/435 of a vote is asking for trouble.

Posted by: The Q at February 10, 2011 01:29 PM (AXHCj)

77 @75 Friday CPAC - Where electricity goes to die!

Posted by: naturalfake at February 10, 2011 01:30 PM (+kzvp)

78 My recommendation is that the name of this annual conference be changed from CPAC to YearlyRon.

Posted by: Empire of Jeff, Chairman of the Non-Partisan Anti-nickless/logprof League at February 10, 2011 01:32 PM (xmuv/)

79 38 Fact is Ron Paul and his followers are dangerous. They can be very radical and could very well form a third party, fracture the Republican Party, ..........

Posted by: nevergiveup at February 10, 2011 04:57 PM (0GFWk)

They tried to do that in '08.  Because the Republican leadership is slack at the grassroots level many Ronulans were able to get into precinct leadership roles.  They almost split several state conventions in '08.  The Tea Party caught them by surprise...but they'll be back.  I know of two states where they wanted to have the State Convention replace the McCain Delegates with Ron Paul Delegates. Will of the People my ass.

Posted by: Quilly Mammoth at February 10, 2011 01:33 PM (VgM+c)

80 The Paulbots and Libertines are basically totalitarians at heart - they are all for your "freedom" to interpret the Constitution exactly as they do

Posted by: Adjoran at February 10, 2011 01:36 PM (VfmLu)

81 Trump is interesting. He can go toe to toe with zero on the celebrity front, and he's a successful businessman to boot. He's a lot better than most of the guys runnings.

Posted by: MJH at February 10, 2011 01:38 PM (kBLec)

82

Trump is interesting. He can go toe to toe with zero on the celebrity front, and he's a successful businessman to boot. He's a lot better than most of the guys runnings.

Giuliani revisited. Similar skeletons falling out of the closet, too.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 01:40 PM (ujg0T)

83 Dick Cheney just popped up here at CPAC to introduce his old pal and Bush administration colleague Donald Rumsfeld. Fans of Ron Paul turned what should have been a friendly moment before an audience of fellow conservatives into a screaming match and protest action that resembled what a Cheney-Rumsfeld hug at the Netroots Nation convention might look like.

Rumsfeld is being given CPAC's "Defender Of The Constitution" award, a concept that apparently rankled Paul supporters in the crowd. Many of them got up and walked out en masse at the mention of Rumsfeld, though some stayed behind in the conference hall to heckle the architects of the invasion of Iraq.

One shout of "where's Bin Laden?" rang out as Cheney spoke of Rumsfeld.

That led to the pro-Cheney contingent (which it should be said greatly outnumbers the opposition) to shout the hecklers down with the familiar "USA, USA" chant.

It was all very odd, especially considering that when Cheney appeared as the "surprise guest" at last year's CPAC he was greeted with the kind of cheers generally reserved for a rock star.

But Team Paul -- whose numbers appear to have grown at CPAC in 2011 -- were not going to let that happen this time around.

"Uh, Defender of the Constitution?" Justin Bradfield of Maryland scoffed when I caught up with him after he walked out of Rumsfeld's speech. "Let's see: he expanded the Defense Department more than pretty much any other defense secretary and he enforced the Patriot Act."

"[Speaking] as a libertarian, that's not really the type of person who should be getting Defender of the Constitution," he added.

Bradfield said the moment showed that "half" of CPAC this year is libertarian, which means his side is winning in the civil war between "libertarians and right-wing conservatives."

"We're loud," he said.

TPMDC




CPAC becoming a Libertarian date night may be due to the deliberate effort by the organizers to open the flaps of the big tent wide and invite in all comers.  When you say you're the type of conservatives who are "cool" with drugs and gay sex, don't be surprised when these guys show up.

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:40 PM (T5Brv)

84 Generally love the site-- but sad to see the same claptrap about Paul, who has long advocated a lot of the positions that a lot of "conservatives" are now claiming to advocate.

If the so-called mainstream grassroots is so big, why can't they ever bother to show up anywhere.  And don't even get me started about Paul's influence on the Tea Party movement, which was enormous.

And while I don't advocate heckling anybody, what exactly has Rumsfeld done that is "conservative"?-- He's a big-government establishment Republican hack who pursued foolish policies that help cost Republicans our congressional majorities.

Posted by: Dissapointing at February 10, 2011 01:41 PM (kuJJV)

85 you guys just hate ideological consistency.
You want "small government" except in areas you don't.

And?

Posted by: hobgoblin of small minds at February 10, 2011 01:41 PM (GTbGH)

86 Curmudgeon at February 10, 201 There'll be tons, but I think they'd all be ignored or expected, just like Obama's crud. People know what the guy is like already, nothing is going to surprise them. Seems like he fired up the CPAC crowd, which is pretty good considering the snoozefest they'll be getting tomorrow.

Posted by: MJH at February 10, 2011 01:43 PM (kBLec)

87 80 The Paulbots and Libertines are basically totalitarians at heart - they are all for your "freedom" to interpret the Constitution exactly as they do. Are you f*cking kidding me? I often can't tell neo-cons from leftists.

Posted by: LA Liberty at February 10, 2011 01:44 PM (Ma+GP)

88

By the way, I have few problems with Ron Paul or disliking how big government and anti-liberty Cheney and Rumsfeld were.

It's the interrupting of speeches and yelling out whatever crosses your mind regardless of situation that makes me lose respect for the Paulians.

Posted by: The Q at February 10, 2011 01:48 PM (AXHCj)

89

And while I don't advocate heckling anybody, what exactly has Rumsfeld done that is "conservative"?-- He's a big-government establishment Republican hack who pursued foolish policies that help cost Republicans our congressional majorities.

Rumsfeld pushed illegal alien amnesty? Who knew?

Rumsfeld pushed prescription drug entitlements? Who knew?

Rumsfeld played rope-a-dope with the Iraq insurgents? Yes. And it worked. Sorry isolationists, but the world is too small now. Right-isolationism is honest and sincere unlike Left-isolationism, which simply wants to see the enemies of America win. But isolationism either way won't have a pleasant outcome...

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 01:53 PM (ujg0T)

90 Paul/Trump 2012

Posted by: RNC at February 10, 2011 01:55 PM (BAtLQ)

91 Gingrich Attacks EPA In CPAC Speech

Newt Gingrich used his CPAC speech to rally against the EPA as well as President Obama's energy policies. Gingrich claimed that Obama was waging "a war on American energy." According to AP, Gingrich wants to scrap the EPA altogether and "replace it with an Environmental Solutions Agency that rewards innovation."



I guess Newt assumes no one saw his duet with Pelosi on climate change.



Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:57 PM (T5Brv)

92 Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) offered quite the treat to her audience in her CPAC speech today. She told the crowd that she would be picking up the bar tab at a party happening tonight. The gesture was meant to congratulate the conservative crowd on their victory this past November in the midterm elections.



Nice......

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 01:59 PM (T5Brv)

93

"The Donald" must be some kind of brilliant businessman, but I'm always kind of taken aback at how seriously clueless he is whenever he opens his mouth to talk about politics. He'll rattle stuff off that even I can tell you is just factually wrong, or simply is completely devoid of any logical basis. It's just weird. You might expect that from some goofball actor/actress or athlete, but you'd think this guy would do better.

That being said, it's probably true that Ron Paul has no real chance of being elected, but I don't see the point of Trump bringing that up. It's unfortunate how ill-behave the "Ronulans" can be. Some of their guy stands for is really refreshing, and we desperately need more of it. On other things, he's kind of off-the-wall - he's especially naive and impractical with his isolationism.

Posted by: Optimizer at February 10, 2011 02:00 PM (2lTU+)

94 She told the crowd that she would be picking up the bar tab at a party happening tonight.

Damn, has she got that much money?  Good looking, conservative and rich! Does she own a liquor store?

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 02:09 PM (M9Ie6)

95 Damn, has she got that much money?  Good looking, conservative and rich! Does she own a liquor store?
Posted by: Vic




Palin/Bachmann 2012: In a Naughty Way

Posted by: Laurie David's Cervix at February 10, 2011 02:18 PM (T5Brv)

96 Ronaldus Magnus 2012!

Posted by: qs at February 10, 2011 02:18 PM (FbCum)

97 Carl Camerones just said Ron Paul "triggered the Tea Party movement in 2008."  WTF?

Posted by: Reiver at February 10, 2011 02:19 PM (TPbXK)

98 the Ronulans have consistently been the most classless group here.

and Trump is all about being classy. He'll tell you so.

Posted by: Ned Ryerson. I used to bone Ayn Rand at February 10, 2011 02:21 PM (AOruP)

99

Carl Camerones just said Ron Paul "triggered the Tea Party movement in 2008."  WTF?

He didn't trigger it. However, if you don't understand that the "No Bailout!" Paulians are very much a part of the Tea Party movement, I don't know what to tell you.


 

Posted by: Curmudgeon at February 10, 2011 02:26 PM (ujg0T)

100 Trump is right.  Which is probably just the headline he was looking for.

Posted by: JASmius at February 10, 2011 02:26 PM (VS0P/)

101 Kommie Karl Kameron is one of the biggest idiots on Fox. He ranks up there with Sheppy-Poo and Kommie Kris Wallace.

Posted by: Vic at February 10, 2011 02:33 PM (M9Ie6)

102 Trump is a silly vanity candidate, but this was an awesome moment nonetheless.

Posted by: Jeff B. at February 10, 2011 02:37 PM (NjYDy)

103

97 Ron Paul "triggered the Tea Party movement in 2008."  WTF?

There were two separate groups that came together in late 2008 after the Bush TARP bailout to form the Tea Party:

1. The Paulian anti-war, anti-Bush surveillance and PATRIOT ACT crowd

2. The pro-GWOT conservatives who hated Bush for Dubai Ports, amnesty, Harriet Miers, etc.

They both hated big government in certain ways, and for both, TARP was a bridge too far. Together, the Tea Party movement began.

It's important to point that out especially because conventional ignorance states that the Tea Party formed in response to Obama. It did not.

Posted by: The Q at February 10, 2011 02:40 PM (AXHCj)

104 I totally agree that the Paultards are a not-insignificant part of the Tea Party movement, and that they are right (to an extent) about the evils of spending, Big Government, etc.  And yet they still manage to come off as morons.

Posted by: Buzz at February 10, 2011 02:41 PM (i27M5)

105 the modern Tea Party movement began with Rick Santelli against Obama and his spending.

Ron Paul's "tea party" in 2007 was an Anti-War, anti-American protest first and foremost.

Tea Parties today are not anti-war nutjob gatherings like what Paul had in 2007.

Posted by: jp at February 10, 2011 02:56 PM (x7byD)

106 Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right.  Here I am stuck in CPAC with you. 

Posted by: Eliza Dolittle Flower Girl and Community Organizer at February 10, 2011 03:15 PM (UL/HQ)

107 I can just see it now. The gop primary season. A clusterfuck of epic proportions chock full of about 15 - 20 bland, gutless, mush-mouthed stumblebums with all the charisma and media savvy of my left test....

Posted by: Uncle Jed at February 10, 2011 03:18 PM (vXwmy)

108 Being anti-war (a war in which Americans needlessly) is anti-American. Being anti-military overspending is anti-conservative. Being a draft dodger is a patriot. Two draft dodgers together is "USA! USA! USA!". War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

Posted by: John at February 10, 2011 03:19 PM (65bDX)

109 The very first die-hard Ronulan I had a face-to-face conversation with started dropping anti-semitic bullshit right away. Luckily he got fired before I cold arrange an accident for him.

The second one got about a half-hour into the conversation before he brought up "Jew bankers".

I just said "I'm a Jew *and you're leaning on a third-floor railing."

Oddly enough, he didn't want to talk about it anymore.

* - I'm a Technical Jew - I'm mostly German and wasn't raised in any way Jewishly, but my Mother's Mother's Mother was a Jew (full stop) so in some circles that makes me one. Close enough for shtting-p-an-asshole work.

I call myself a "Bacon-eatin' Jew," when the topic comes up.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 10, 2011 03:21 PM (bxiXv)

110 "Sit down and shut up" says the draft dodger and the tea-o-cons erupt into incredibly creative "USA! USA!" chant. If Obama/Pelosi/Reid had said that to a dissenter - their sheeple bobble heads would collectively explode!

Posted by: Jackson at February 10, 2011 03:22 PM (65bDX)

111 Note that doesn't make all Ronulans anti-Semitic, but I've seen more adherents than exceptions to the rule. Sorry guys, that's what I've seen.

Posted by: Merovign, Bond Villain at February 10, 2011 03:22 PM (bxiXv)

112 the paulbots are just as incoherent as the trolls, so they've got that going for them! I didn't even know the great Lord God Ron Paul was even running. Has he declared?

Posted by: Uncle Jed at February 10, 2011 03:26 PM (vXwmy)

113 Being anti-war (a war in which Americans needlessly) is anti-American.

Being anti-military overspending is anti-conservative.

Being a draft dodger is a patriot. Two draft dodgers together is "USA! USA! USA!".

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.

The term is "magical fairy dust isolationists" not "anti-American." You Paulbots are consistently tiresome, I'll give you that much.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2011 03:28 PM (gDbxE)

114 The term is "magical fairy dust isolationists" not "anti-American." You Paulbots are consistently tiresome, I'll give you that much. Another couple to add to the list. Being anti-intervention is "isolationist". Bombing countries makes them our friends.

Posted by: John at February 10, 2011 03:34 PM (65bDX)

115 are you talking about germany and japan?

Posted by: Uncle Jed at February 10, 2011 03:40 PM (vXwmy)

116 This isn't a time for good mannered behavior. I do believe there was bombastic support for Joe Wilson's "You Lie", for the Health Care town hall protesting, and other such things. I'm not saying I have a problem with that, but sometimes the chickens come home to roost. Either you like rowdy discourse or you don't (or you are a hypocrite). I understand the need for civility- but there comes a time when decency demands you speak up. Frankly, I think that time is when they try to give Donald Rumsfeld any sort of an award in the name of conservatism- or when they bring in Dick "PNAC" Cheney to deliver it.

Posted by: Micah Nelson at February 10, 2011 03:42 PM (aufmq)

117
Ron Paul founded the Tea Party movement.

He had had hundreds of tea parties nation wide long before Santelli called for more of them.

Posted by: qs at February 10, 2011 03:42 PM (FbCum)

118 Donald Trump scolding others about electability? That's rich. DeDe Scuzzyfeva has a better shot at the WH. What a fuckin idiot! And he's the the big surprise speaker at SCAMPAC? ah hahahahahaha!

Posted by: Mr. Diddy Wah Diddy at February 10, 2011 03:43 PM (BZEkR)

119 37-- I wouldn't vote for Donald Trump as President of my Condo Association. If you live in a NYC condo, your condo association has probably sued Trump or one of his LLCs.

Posted by: Mr. Diddy Wah Diddy at February 10, 2011 03:54 PM (BZEkR)

120 Trump is an assclown.  Thats one motherfucker who you know damn well would run for the sheer power of the office, and not a give a rat's ass about anything else.

Posted by: Berserker at February 10, 2011 04:07 PM (gWHrG)

121 Did Gabe send the CPAC Ronulans here?  That's a bannable offense even for a co-blogger, no?

Posted by: Captain Hate at February 10, 2011 04:19 PM (eh+ki)

122

You know who reminds me of Ron Paul supporters?

Fat New Jersey Bamboozle  Man  supporters.

Posted by: Bob's skanky va-jay-jay at February 10, 2011 04:23 PM (uZn1M)

123

CPAC!!

 

 

Best circle-jerked cluster-f*ck EVAH!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Porns King at February 10, 2011 04:26 PM (uZn1M)

124

1. Trump would not be my nominee but he is electable and one poll I saw had him tied w/ Obama and another beating him. He's unelectable in the primaries however and I hope he's not Ross Perot 2.0

2. Paul is unelectable and everything about his trutherism and douchebag supporters is right on but to the commenter who mentioned Trump talking about Palin being unelectable...um...that's true too. In fact Paul polls better against Obama in Rasmussen then Palin and they both get beat easily by him

3. To the commenter that compared Christine O'Donell supporters to Pauls' I'd say that's right on ecept O'Donell supporters aren't truthers just ignorant of facts on the ground and the background of their candidate (just like Paul supporters)

Posted by: YRM (Rarest Ace Commenter, Most Common Ace Reader) at February 10, 2011 04:31 PM (UzBwz)

125 After the first day of voting in the straw poll, it has become obvious that the CPAC straw poll is between Ron Paul and Mitt Romney.  Everyone who doesn't want to see Ron Paul win the straw poll should vote for Mitt Romney in the final day of voting tomorrow.  Ron Paul's supporters are disgracing the entire conference and need to be defeated once and for all!

Posted by: Dan at February 10, 2011 04:36 PM (31+li)

126 Bombing countries makes them our friends.

If that's what you think the purpose of bombing is you are beyond help.

But we already knew that, right?

Tell us again how to make the whole letters of marque thing work in the 21st century.  I always get a kick out of that.  (Note:  Check the post at the top of the blog for reason number one why this was yet another of Ineffectual Ron's stupid, empty, meaningless "ideas".)

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2011 04:42 PM (gDbxE)

127 Paul is as Anti-American as Michael Moore and Code Pink. Someone who was truly anti-war wouldn't lie about his own country in a conflict, and I do mean LIE, while spreading lies for the Enemy and never criticizing foreign actors.

Posted by: jp at February 10, 2011 04:43 PM (SV1nj)

128 Someone who was truly anti-war wouldn't lie about his own country in a conflict, and I do mean LIE, while spreading lies for the Enemy and never criticizing foreign actors.

Unless it's that place with all the Jooooooooos.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at February 10, 2011 04:45 PM (gDbxE)

129 Paulians always remind me of scientologists. That's not a good thing.

Posted by: carl hungus at February 10, 2011 04:47 PM (ONJpP)

130

Posted by: carl hungus at February 10, 2011 08:47 PM (ONJpP)

they remind me of TNA Wrestling fans, oh wait no moron's gonna get that anology since im the only pro-wrestling fan on Ace

okay they remind me of...generation Y!

Posted by: YRM (Rarest Ace Commenter, Most Common Ace Reader) at February 10, 2011 04:51 PM (UzBwz)

131 Those crazy Ronulans are only a symptom of the GOP's problem not the cause.

Two Bush regimes left us adrift in a sea of negative electability.

Rep. Michele Bachmann respects the Patriot Act, but also listens to the FiCon (Ronulans included) concerns regarding the deficit, debt, inflation, etc.

If she can't unite the warring SoCons and FiCons by 2012, we are looking at another 4 years of Obama.

Can't we work with the libertarian wing to prevent that?!?!

IMO, Reagan would.....

Posted by: Black Hawk at February 10, 2011 04:58 PM (k+XzD)

132 Sure seems to me that a hell of a lot of people at CPAC have totally usurped the Conservative name.   Do they even know what the hell it's supposed to mean?

Posted by: Steph at February 10, 2011 05:32 PM (AkdC5)

133 He told them twice that Ron Paul can't be president. When he tell them again, a rooster will crow.

Posted by: cheshirecat at February 10, 2011 06:42 PM (Mt9hi)

134 Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) offered quite the treat to her audience in her CPAC speech today

She flashed her tits?

Posted by: OregonMuse at February 10, 2011 06:48 PM (R88Ry)

135 They bring in romulan ale accross the nietral zone aboard the KABAYASI MARU without STARFLEET finding out

Posted by: Spurwing Plover at February 10, 2011 08:13 PM (vA9ld)

136 It isn't Trump that makes Ron Paul unelectable, but his own supporters.  Only idiots would go to a CPAC and choose to make idiots of themselves.  If Paul has any chance to get elected at some point, as a base you would have to win over the easiest to win over, the conservative.  To piss in their tent and make enemies of them doom his hopes if he was considering running.  Surprised they did not go out to boo Nancy Reagan.  They are the fringe now and will be forever.  Way to go idiots. 

Posted by: Greta at February 11, 2011 02:38 AM (POE3L)

137 Maybe it is crap like this that explains why Sarah Palin stays away from CPAC.

Posted by: Mikey NTH at February 11, 2011 05:55 AM (O9Cc8)

138 dissing the Dark Lord is a no no.

Posted by: dscott at February 11, 2011 06:31 AM (gaD9p)

139 Why has CPAC been conceded to the liberaltarians?

Why did the big tough chickenhawks and homophobes CUT & RUN, instead of staying and holding their conservative territory?

Are the Neocons CONDEDING the fight to the Ronulans?

It sure looks like it these past couple of years....

Posted by: Black Hawk at February 11, 2011 01:27 PM (k+XzD)

140 Yeah, its not CPAC any more its LPAC: libertarian, not conservative.

I said several years ago that the first party to adopt the libertarian mindset without its more loony fringe would be the big winner for a while. Looks like the GOP is picking them up.

Posted by: Christopher Taylor at February 11, 2011 03:05 PM (61b7k)

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